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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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SMT HD Game and 3DS game planned in the works: http://shin-megamitensei.jp/

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfkAh4iZ6o

Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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First for Isabeau
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>tfw bought a smartphone

Would have preferred a COMP...

Anyways, demon summoning program when?
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Man, Strange Journey feels like it's really dragging on compared to other SMT games.
Just finished killing Asherah, and I'm losing the will to keep playing.
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>>166699142
you're not ever at the copypaste stratum yet
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>>166699041
October
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>>166699256
What a bummer. I was hoping I was near the end, so I could just truck on through, but I guess not.
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Is it wrong I want to fluff his hair? I just finished IV and I feel oddly attracted to his haircut.
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>>166700557
>wanting to touch lawfags
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>>166700557
It'll take you quite a while, and you will have to take care of it as much as girls do, but it looks nice if your face's shape is fitting for long hair.
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>>166700557
I felt bad for Jonathan because he's a good guy with good intentions, and was so close to seeing reason, but you just can't undo a lifetime of brainwashing overnight.

I still don't get Walter's reasoning for going chaos though.
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Should I replay SMT 3 or Digital Devil Saga

or should I finally play Strange Journey
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>>166701798
The scene where he decides to give his life to fuse with the Archangels to set a point people can live and act for others is one of my favorite in the game. My favorite Law character by far.

I'm convinced Walter was a closet edgelord from the start and his libido toward Medusa made everything go down because this is the only way I can rationalize him being disgusted by the Ashura-Kai's farm but finding a society where normal humans are literally food slaves "nice to live in"
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>>166702669
Play what you haven't yet then replay everything in the order you played them in.
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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

Well...? Are you gonna do it?
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hoy
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>>166703464
>Well...? Are you gonna do it?

Stick my thumb up your butt
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>>166706849
Geez, Nameless. Stop acting so weird and let's go already!
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I try to enjoy DeSu2RB, but holy shit it's impossible to get some specific demons without having to spend at least 1 hour searching for a combination of fusions from demons in the auctions

Overclocked wasn't half as bad due to having far less demons
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my depression is crippling me
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Was it really THAT bad?
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>>166709452
Honestly, it was.
I pirated it, and still felt ripped off.
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>>166709452
It was ok, the gameplay is pretty standard and the overall theme can completely alienate you depending on your tastes, don't believe the retards that try to sell it to you by saying that it's anything above 6/10 though
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>>166709452
It wasn't bad to begin with. If you can eat up Apocalypse you can eat up SMTxFE easily.
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>>166709452
Its better than Final by mile.
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>>166710797
I really like Toki's design. Too bad she ended up a shit character.
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>>166710654
there are idols in apocalypse?
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>>166710863
It's nothing special.
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>>166709452
It's bad in the expectation that it was supposed to mean anything to players who took the original teaser at face value and wanted something stylistically closer to mainline MegaTen.

Maybe it's alright on its own, but it has absolutely minimal relevance here unless you're being a smartass.
Take it to /feg/ or something.
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>>166712484
So much wasted potential

At least the trailer got me into megaten
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>>166710797
I want to laugh at your joke, but it hurts
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I just started Apocalypse on Apocalypse.
How angry is this game going to make me?
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>>166715617
do you like missing in a press turn game
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>>166715617
If this is your first time playing, very.
If you already know the whole story bullshit, it depends on how much you can take. It'll be challenging at least as opposed to the other difficulties.
Bring lube to the last boss fight.
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>>166715873
missing? do the enemies have high evade?

>>166715876
I played through IV on normal
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>>166715921
apoc difficulty gives you a higher miss chance, I've heard something like -100 agility equivalent
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>>166716098
well fuck
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>>166716098
Has been a long time since I've played but I'm pretty sure that's bullshit.
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What if Gideon's working secretly on PSX If...?
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>>166718187
Maybe someday.
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hoy
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>>166721875
did you really shitpost just to bump a dead general?
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>>166722157
Never fucking reply to me again unless you are contributing to the thread
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3ds game announcement WHEN
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>>166724538
Soon
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>>166724538
Conceptually never.
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>>166724538
Read the Kuh Rahn to find out.
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>reinforcements have appeared!
>toki jumps in
>the instant kill activated
>reinforcements have appeared
>toki jumps in
>the instant kill activated
Goddamn.
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>>166722157
By that logic, /v/ wouldn't exist.
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>>166712484
But it's pretty much a MT spinoff
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>>166712484
You can keep saying that, but it's as relevant as any other spin-off series. It's not talked about THAT much, it's not worth shitting yourself over every time it comes up. It's way more relevant here than /feg/ that's for sure.
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>>166729472
>>166731394
It's Atlus x FE, not SMT x FE.
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What IV DLC's are worth getting, if any? I feel like playing the game again before jumping into Apocalypse.
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>>166710797
God damn I hate Hallelujah so much
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>>166731894
All the free ones.
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>>166732396
Found Toki and snitch bitch Nozomi worse.
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>>166731741
It plays like an SMT game
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>>166732396
>>166732508
Is Navarre the only good partner in Final?
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>>166733108
Yes. Great, helpful skills for pretty much any fight you could imagine and he's the only one who has an actual character arc and a decent one at that.
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>>166731894
The one where you revisit Blasted Tokyo.
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What if the new SMT HD game has vocal tracks and the OST is made by Shoji Meguro?
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>>166724718
Raidou 3 developed by Hideaki Itsuno when?
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Tell me /smtg/ should I get Apocalypse or Persona Q?
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>>166733302
I think they'll stick with Koduka. The teaser's music sounds like his work anyway.
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>Megrez
I'm over leveled or this is a ruse. I defeated it on turn 1 blind
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>>166733647
Don't bother with Persona Q unless you like the Persona 3/4 characters and their tropes cranked up to eleven.
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>>166733652
Yes, please.
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>>166732508
>Toki
Hey, she was pretty good in gameplay. The Master thing just came out of nowhere, but that's just par for the course with Apocalypse.
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How did Apocalypse sell compared to regular IV?
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>>166731741
Except you're wrong, it is literally SMT x FE. The 'TMS' in the name isn't an accident. Regardless, occasionally discussing it here isn't a huge deal and certainly not worth shit-storming about.
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>>166733197
Was actually just talking in terms of personality, as he was the only partner that wasn't a complete fucking cunt as was actually pretty cool. Funny, given he's not exactly likeable in in IV itself.
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>>166734281
>Except you're wrong, it is literally SMT x FE.
My sides.
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>>166734614
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>>166734732
>working title
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>>166734925
hoy
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>>166735587
>company references their work in a collab
wow
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>>166736017
>Agi, Zio, Bufu, Dia etc.
>demon names for the mirages
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>>166736283
>references
crazy i can't believe it
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>>166736626
What demon would I NOT fuck?
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>>166736328
usually I would have stopped by now, but you keep responding so this I can't resist
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>>166736626
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>>166736626
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>>166736626
True form Nemissa
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Objectively est routes

>SMT 1
Neutral
>SMT 2
Chaos
>SMT 3
Neutral
>SMT 4
Neutral
>SMT SJ
Neutral
>Devil Survivor 1
Atsuro's ending
>Devil Survivor 2
Anguished One ending
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>>166736730
Normally I'd be agreeing with you, but this post is flimsy. By this logic, EO is SMT as well.
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>>166738551
Oh I stopped making reasonable arguments awhile ago, I was just dumping all of my TMS screenshots to annoy that guy. I'm done now though, more interested in Cleopatra
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>>166738935
Yeah, cool. Carry on then.
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>>166738542
>being a neutralfag
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>>166738542
I generally agree with you.
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>>166738542
You missed
>SMT 4 Final
Bonds
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>>166739158
Chaosfag actually
>>166739450
Haven't played it
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>>166738542
I only subjectively agree with SMT I and SJ. The rest are objectively wrong.
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>>166739957
How so?
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Did Hallelujah's mom know she fucked a demon?
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>>166740075
>SMT II
Neutral

>SMT 3
TDE

>SMT IV
Anything other than neutral

>DeSu 1
Amane

>DeSu 2
Daichi True Ending

Chaosfag here by the way.
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>>166740368
>Amane
While it is the best law ending in the entire series its still not the best ending in that game
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>>166740656
I prefer either Amane or Naoya No Kill ending. Yuzu's 8th day was good. Anything else was boring as fuck to be honest.
>let's just send the demons away MAYBE they'll never come back
>let's put demons in the hand of the military. What possibly could go wrong?
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>>166703464
no mt2 no vote
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>>166738542
>SMT 3
>Neutral

Should've played SMT3 Maniax edition senpai.
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Where the fuck is my official Atlus 3DS Project stream
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>>166731394
Those outfits are fucking horrible. I can't believe they walked out their house looking like that
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So I bought a PS2 for SMT3, DDS1, and DDS2. Never owned one before, so what're some good games for it?
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>>166745413
Raidou gaymes.
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>>166745413
BoF Dragon Quarter
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> go on apocalypse peri sidequest
> recruit peri
> now it doesn't give me more red balls that I need for the quest
0/10
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>>166745165
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>>166745413
Pretty much only Megaten and the fact that you can play PS1 games. PS2 is a godawful platform in retrospect.
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>>166748384
The one on the right is fine.

The one in the middle is passable if not for that one stupid stocking/thigh high whatever it is called

Left needs to be burned
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>>166745413
Why when the emulator is tolerable
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>>166733108
Asahi is best doggo
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>>166749037
socks like that are hnng for me. That's the US censored shot anyway...
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>>166749712
Why is this allowed
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>>166749774
We americans are too sensitive to bewbs. violence is fine, but no sexiness.
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Have any of you played both Maken X and Maken Shao? Do they change or add anything to the story in Shao or is it mainly a gameplay overhaul?
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>>166749925
>gameplay overhaul
i would say no, i played maken x entirely but cant stomach shao.
As far as i know they are about the same, just both western relases censored.
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>>166740357
Considering she told him, presumably.
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>>166749897
Censored by Atlus' own volition, no one made them do it. Although I can't blame them seeing how aggressively the American gaming """press""" attacked Japanese games ever since the PS3/360 gen.
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>>166750557
>ever since the PS3/360 gen
what. they've been doing it since at least the 90s. silly perverted japanese corrupting our kids.
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>>166750557
Nintendo volition*
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>>166750735
Uh, no. Japanese games were synonymous with console gaming in the 90's, and everyone loved them, especially all the RPGs. Then something happened during the PS3/360 gen and the press started shitting on Japanese games, especially their RPGs. If it wasn't an American game then they wanted nothing to do with it.
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>>166750113

From what I've heard, the Japanese version of Shao was censored too. I got myself the Japanese version of X and plan to also import Shao once I'm done with it. The thing is, I have a harder time with Japanese dialogue I can't pause which Maken X seems to have quite a bit of. If Shao has the same story then I won't have to worry as much about missing out on a whole lot on my playthrough of X since I'll be going through the same stuff again with Shao minus the swastikas.
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>>166750557
>>166750840
The director was disappointed that Nintendo of America censored the game in an interview.
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>>166751608
I'm sure those bikini costumes were just central to the intended message of the game
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>>166750557
except nintendo tree house did the localization retard
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>>166751678
I mean the game is about modeling/acting/singing/idol shit so it was easily replaceable, but the bikinis were indeed relevant.
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Which protagonist has the best walk animation?
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>>166751678
Maiko was a gravure model, so yes. The photo shoot was important to her and Tsubasa, who was very insecure about her body and had finally overcome her fear of wearing things like bikinis.

>>166751817
Atlus USA did the localization, with Treehousing overlooking and changing things as they saw fit.
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>>166751678
They don't matter, but they did censor an important plot point of Maiko being an ex-gravure model. Without that all context for Nobu's character and dungeon is kind of lost.
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>>166752085
Sounds like a great story.
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>>166749156
Because I have a toaster and my PS3 is shot to hell
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>>166749712
>they changed Tsubasa's skin color
Kek
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>>166752876
I think that's just a lighting difference tbqhfam
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>>166752876
One image is just more washed out than the other.
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>>166752035
So Treehouse overlooked and CHANGED things as they saw fit?

Interesting...
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>>166701798
>>166703305

Walter didn't like how the Angels and Monks were running a theocracy, and how Casualries were kept willingly ignorant. Plus, he was seduced by Lilith's talk of a world where the strong can rule and shape the world.

You both didn't see that because post apocalyptic Tokyo in IV was so terrible that living in Mikado under YHVH's rules seemed like a correct choice at the time.
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>>166752936
>>166753004
Whoa. So they censored the game's brightness and contrast too.
What a bunch of assholes.
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>>166751608
It's his own fault for not hiding his power levels.
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>>166752032
Do we even get to see Kazuya/SMT I Hero or Aleph walking? Serph's walking is the jankiest though.
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>>166753956
Demi Fiend's casual jog is bretty good.
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>>166754085
True that. And I really like how Flynn runs.
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who would've ever thought that the hottest girl in all of SMT (including spinoffs) would be found in a sequel mainline game?
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>>166752032
Raidou.
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>>166754945
Not even the most attractive in her game.
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>>166754945
Can we all take a moment and discuss why the fuck Nanashi's and Toki's beta designs were so great and then ended up not being used? I just wonder how different the game was in the planing stages.
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>>166753956
You can see Aleph's walk on the over world if you hold A or B.
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smt if... remake confirmed for 3DS title

http://て何?という方
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>>166755338
In Nanashi's case, the producers wanted wanted a very young but open minded character. Adults are too set in their ways for the plot of Apocalypse to work, they would reject Dagda and even Danu's words.
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>>166755338
>megumin with a different hat
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>>166755338
vapid slack jawed loli look is not good
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>>166755583
We're talking about concept Toki, not actual Toki.
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>>166755548
Then why not adapt the design and make it somewhat younger? Or just alter parts of the story instead of delivering this trash story we got?

>>166755583
You talking about final Toki or beta Toki? Beta looks way better.
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>>166755338
Wonder if beta Nanashi wouldn't have had to deal with the same Toki plot. I only like her hat though.

>>166755553
It's a good hat.
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>>166755338
Concept Toki is too lewd for Apocalypse. The producers can barely rationalize why they thought it was a good idea to have a fourteen year old talk about making babies.
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>>166755880
For all we know, beta IV Final/Apocalypse didn't have the same story or beta Toki wasn't even the same character. I'm just surprised that they didn't reused the design and adapted it for something else like an NPC or anything really.
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>>166755880
What's the best ending/route for Desu2?
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>>166755807
Apocalypse was made with the intention of attracting a new generation of SMT fans, which means making a story about a young boy and his friends fighting angels and demons with the power of friendship and bonds to appeal to a newer crowd. Yamai wants elementary school kids to get hooked on mainline games.
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Just beat SJ. Fuck Mem Aleph. Fun but flawed. I liked the sci fi setting but the fusion was pretty meh and would've liked if they'd done more with demon alignment then a combo attack. And some of those dungeons were way annoying.

Nocturne > I > II > SJ > If

Onward to 4.
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>>166756134
penis in vagina ending
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>>166755338
it's a decent design but I like what made it to the game more for her character. this design could have been used for someone different entirely. I think sometimes it's easier to appreciate good beta designs more after a game has already released since those designs are fresh new takes on what you have already associated biases with. you probably feel as though things would have been different had they looked how they did in beta phase.
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>>166756257
I wonder what this means for the mainline going forward. I find it odd that the most recent Persona is seemingly more mature than the most recent mainline game.
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>>166756087
It was different, like Barong and Shiva being considered leaders of Polytheistic Alliance, or the group itself getting into a civil war over the distribution of souls.
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>>166756503
Mainline will most likely get remakes of SMT 1 and 2 with Apocalypse's game mechanics, complete with new artwork from Doi and some of the demons in Apocalypse included, plus SMT5.
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>>166756283
how'd you play If
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>>166756829
I like this. I've never played SMT 1 or 2, how many of you guys have?
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Did Asahi even got a beta character? or was always the lovable dog that everyone knows?
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>>166757102
I can't stomach playing it on my phone, and I'm about to play the SFC version on my Wii, I keep getting distracted by other Megaten games. I've played fewer mainline games than all the others, weirdly.
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>>166757154
sauce
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>>166757664
People get off to deviantart-tier art?
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>>166757102
On one hand I'd like to play SMT1 & 2, but on the other hand they are pretty crippled in terms of gameplay mechanics. I hear that SMT1 doesn't even have skill inheritances, for example. If they remake SMT1 & 2 then that would be super cool, but I wish it'd be a 1:1 remake in terms of writing.
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>>166757980
there's not enough doggo in the world
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>>166758310
SMT2 does have skill inheritance though.

The only bad things about SMT1 is unclear triggers (how the fuck are you supposed to know that you need to talk to that old man in the park?) and the encounter rate, which was fixed in the PS1 version apparently
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>>166756871
Emulated the JP PS1 version from the psn store, I know Japanese well enough to play games without problems.
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>>166758381
Yeah but that pic is fucking bad
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>beat classic SMT1/2
>have big urge to drop Soul Hackers trash
I'm not "true smt fan" right? SH sucks. Just no fun to play. Every new mehanic for SH is trash. Should I suffer for Nemissa and maido?
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>>166758615
I've only found like 3 good pics ever
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>>166758751
just grind your demons do max effection , it's easy
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>>166758395
Yeah but I hear that the skill inheritances are pretty draconian in SMT2. Honestly, I find it hard to go back and play the older games after SMT4/A. I replayed Nocturne after SMT4A and was a bit rustled with how annoying the skill inheritance system works where you keep resetting until you get the desired skills.

Obscure story triggers would be a bit annoying, however. Not sure how much the encounter rate would matter as Nocturne has an insanely high encounter rate as well. It's not unusual that you'll get hit by a random encounter 1-2 steps after the previous one. And Estoma was useless.
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>>166758842
In SMT1, I actually had the same encounter 6 times in a row after trying to run away and trying to go forward.

It was fucking Haunt Nightmares too.
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>>166758751
SH kicks ass man, I'm finding SMT I way harder to get into. SH was the 2nd Megaten game I beat after 4, you can handle it believe me.
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>>166758939
Do you ever get the feeling that you are being haunted by the RNG in these games? Because that's the feeling I get sometimes when I run away from prickly encounters only to get constantly ambushed by the same goddamn encounter.
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>>166758842
>Nocturne has an insanely high encounter rate

kek. Yeah just stick to the casualized I/II remakes when they come out.
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>>166759079
Yeah, KMT's RNG was especially bad though, especially late game in MT1.

So many fucking encounters that you just don't want to bother with and most of the time running only works after attempting it exactly 3 times.
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>>166759184
It's worse in the Famicom version.
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>>166759080
SMT I and II are pretty archaic though. Why would you make fun of someone for not wanting to play a game that can't even show you all of the demons on the screen in encounters?
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>>166759080
>take a step
>encounter
>take a step
>encounter
>take 5 steps
>encounter
>c-casual
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>>166759391
the fast autobattle makes up for it
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>>166758310
the only skills your demons need are estoma, recarm and tarukaja in those games
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>>166759269
>Why would you make fun of someone for not wanting to play a game that can't even show you all of the demons on the screen in encounters?
"Elitism". That's why you should play old smt games evem if you hate them.
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>>166759269
Because I want to create a world where p5 babbys leave this general
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>>166758751
I feel you. I like SH's story but it's just such a fucking slog.
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>>166758842
>>166759391
I just played Nocturne for the first time recently and I felt the encounter rate was totally fine. And even if it was a problem you could get the lower encounter skipp pretty early on.
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>>166759550
the first two smt games were in the bottom of the enjoyment poll so I guess you're in the minority here.

they're damn video games, you play them for fun.
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>>166759625
Objectively wrong because it's one of the shortest games
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>>166760238
>they're damn video games, you play them for fun.
Old games are not aged very well. It's hard to enjoy something when you already knows better.
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>>166760556
>old games are not aged very well
is not complete rule of thumb but it's true for those two games which is why people didn't enjoy them as much as the newer entries. there's nothing wrong with that you know
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>>166760789
It is wrong because they're judging from a fucked up , ignorant perspective.
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How would you react if Kek was a demon in SMTV
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>>166761163
Overdue.
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>>166760902
what you're saying doesn't make any sense. the series has improved immensely on a technical level. the old games just aren't up to snuff with what comes out today. they were fun then because they lied within limitations that were understood but the boundaries of the medium has been pushed far forward since.

people don't have to enjoy the games. respect them as the foundation for the entire series and understand their importance? sure. force themselves to play through a boring experience that defeats the purpose of playing through a video game in the first place? no, why should they? if someone wants to do that to fully understand how far the series has come, fine, but nobody needs to pretend that they think those are fantastic enjoyable games.
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>>166758751
SMT I and II are so damn slow compared to SH.

Its more reasonable encounter rate, dungeons and battles makes it much better IMO.
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>>166761163
I'm very serious seal and don't like epic memes and other modern teen subculture shit. But you can find your favorite kek in new EDF5
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immolate those who insult persona 1
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>>166759459
Sorta, but it gets really irritating in the later half of the game when the dungeons turn to shit tier teleporter mazes.

>>166760023
Estoma only works when your party out levels the enemies by at least 5 levels. It's fine in the beginning, but useless later on, unless you want to grind a shitload.
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>>166762121
Immolate those who like Megaten games I dislike.
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>>166758842
DDS has a higher encounter rate than Nocturne. Don't be such a casual.
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Bravely Default/Second has best mechanic for invisible rng encounters
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>>166758751
Just played through those same 3 games and SH was easily the best of the bunch.
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>>166758751
The gameplay itself is really a slog. Too bad because the OST, atmosphere and designs are top notch.
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>>166762121
Persona 1 was fucking shit, literally the only entry in the sub-series I couldn't stomach.
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>>166765858
I hate you
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>>166765858
How can you stomach P4's shitty writing and braindead gameplay or P2IS and EP's terrible gameplay and not stomach P1's classic dungeon crawling and chill characters?
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>>166766267
Persona 3 is the best Persona game.
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>>166766887
P3 is an average game in itself. Didn't do too much too bad but didn't either do anything stellar, except maybe the catchy OST.
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>>166766887
I disagree. P3 was not a bad game but it suffered from horrendous pacing issues, which really dragged it down.
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>>166764836
no it doesn't
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>>166764531
It's the same as Noccy.
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>>166766887
no sir
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>>166768184
Is it? I always felt DDS was higher.
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>>166766887
P2 > P3 > P1 > dog shit > power gap > P4
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>>166758751
>Just no fun to play
Try to endure it for another couple of hours you fucking pleb. Its has the best combat mechanics in entire series, pressturn babies need not to apply.
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>>166769657
stock RPG maker is the best in megaten?
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P4 is the best persona game people who disagree are just being contrarians desu
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>>166770628
>waifu simulator
take your social links elsewhere, hombre
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>>166770628
what makes p4 so much better than the others
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You can not properly rank the mainline games unless you played them in release order.
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Tell me, guys. Good game, or should I just pass on it? I wanna start it next.
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Actually really nice playing through SMT II on 3DS. Nice to actually have buttons for once.

>>166764836
Nope. Legend of Dragoon does :^)

>>166766887
I actually really like Persona 3, but Persona 2 IS is my personal favourite. Played that shit on emulator when the translation came out on my PSP, god rest its soul. Great game.
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>>166769243
It may be a bit harder to tell since there's no radar in DDS, but I've been replaying Nocturne and DDS back to back recently and I can say that they're the same. Combat is way slower in DDS however (mostly due to the slower speed and unnecessary stuff like over elaborate animations for when you crit) so it may feel like you spend a longer time in combat.
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>>166770895
I played your sisters in release order.
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>>166769971
>i am a mongo
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Well?
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>>166775821
The answer is Mothman. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
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>>166775821
Pick Mothman, Thomas.
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>>166775821
The answer is Preta
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lmao did they really censor Medusa's dialogue in Apocalypse when you choose to attack her?
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>>166776524
It's like that in Jap too.
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>>166776524
Thats the joke, desu.
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>>166775821
thomas you such a faggot holy shit
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What happened to Kaneko between early and late 90s? Why his art evolved in such a bizarre way?
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>>166778671
jojo references
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Why P5 OST is so fucking shit? Literally 64 tracks of pure same-sounding garbage. Why Meguro became a fucking hack?
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>>166780412
Perhaps the guy is getting bored of Persona?
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>>166780412
since SJ
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>>166780560
More like since P4.
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>>166780412
Waifufags probably inflated his ego and he became self-complacent.
P4DAN should have been a warning to him and everyone else.

And it's ironic considering that jazz is supposed to be his favorite genre.
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>>166738542
>Freedom in Nocturne
>Not a turd enabling jerks called "friends"
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>>166780814
isamu did nothing wrong, musubi is the NEET dream

and I can't blame anyone for wanting to genocide manikins
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>>166740357
Yes. She even called him her angel cause he taught herhow to read and write.

Shemyaza muses about who Hal's own angel is (It's Nanashi)
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>>166780412
Because he reuses the same sounds for every song. The OST in IV was better than anything hes done recently.
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>>166780412
Give me an example because I don't believe you. IV soundtrack was good and I like everything I've heard from P5 so far.
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>>166781753
>and I like everything I've heard from P5 so far.
Your taste is shit then. Get the fuck out of here.
Meguro has nothing to do with IV soundtrack, personashiter.
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>>166781753
Meguro actually had nothing to do with the IV OST. That's probably why it was so good. Easily some of the best tracks since Nocturne or DDS.
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the contrarians are at it agian
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>>166781849
Just show me a bad song. I have an open mind anon, don't be afraid. I've only heard two or three songs from the game, one of which is the opening.
>>166782480
Yeah I see that now. I misinterpreted >>166781256 and assumed he did (which was to my surprise).
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>>166782592
Rivers In the Desert.
This garbage will play in the final bossfight, enjoy I guess. Compare this trash to Battle for Everyone's Souls, Almighty, Hari-Hara, Brahman theme and proceed to exterminate thyself from the life.
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So this is... the power of the 3ds project... woah
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You all need to stop shitposting here, and go watch motherfucking competitive Catherine.
https://www.twitch tv/kfair_ipg

Even AtlusUSA is there, so you can personally call its PR manager a faggot.
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>>166783270
pls

I've literally been waiting for that one since the original 3DS came out.
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>>166783634
>twitch
just another bitch ass messiah
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>>166782952
Yeah that's pretty sad for a final theme
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Cucksona is the future of SMT
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>>166785824
persona is good shut up
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>>166786281
You're not wrong, but you're also not allowed to say that here, you loser.
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>>166786281
good like a bag of severed dicks
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there's a lot of fanart of nanashi smoking.
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>>166788070
Isn't it AGAINST THE LAW *wink-wink* hehe get it?
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>>166789195
My g*d that was terrible. Get out.
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>>166789243
>not my *record scratch*
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Devil Cuckmonner is the future of SMT
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I started SMT4:A and the various dlc quests just unlocked.
Why does time move faster above the ceiling?
And what should I do with the quests to grind levels, ap, money and so on?
Just ignore them for a balanced first playthrough?
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>>166792136
Masakado + past Flynn's desire to preserve Tokyo slowed down time under the dome
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>>166792136
>Not playing 4 first
>4:A has needless amounts of exposition about the setting
Time just moves slower in Tokyo. You'll find out later or it's your own fault for not finding out yourself.

At most, you should only ever mess with the money dlc if you're making your first playthrough, it's nice to be able to freely fuse whatever you want from the compendium.
There is little to no need for the other dlc grind quests until you're at the cosmic egg or just waiting for ng+ anyway.

Maybe the level dlc is excusable on your first playthrough to use the tomes on demons so that they learn their level-up skills.
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I want Midori to die.
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Jesus Christ, can we talk about what the hell happened in the Reverse Hills in SMT IV? Mfw that little girl on the 8th floor
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>>166793005
Just side with Keisuke and break her comp on the next day
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>>166793493

There's only one way to deal with this. Did you make the right choice?
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>>166793493
I'm going to grow up and make Tokyo great!
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>>166793493
Necessary losses.
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>>166794828
Mastema lives on chaos route, he'll still keep the place running
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>>166795012
Was Tokyo ever great?
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>>166795828
Tokyo is great because Tokyo is good.
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Honestly they should've just blasted Zelenin's greatest hits through a speaker system in the underground districts to keep demons out.
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>page 10
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>>166796116
demons, humans and anyything with ears
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Do they planning Atlus direct show or something, for actual announcement with title names?
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>>166798993
english you fuck
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>>166754945
She could stab someone with that chin.
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>>166799139
she probably did, that hoe aint loyal
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>mfw I pressed the button

where the fuck is tokyo, what the fuck happened AAAAAA
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Someone post the gif of desu mc dancing.
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>Miss
>Miss
>Miss
>Miss
>Do Nothing
>Miss
I love video games.
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>>166802990
Grisaia is shit but still better than SMT.
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>>166803127
Did I fucking ask for your opinion?
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>>166699041
>not buying a gump
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>>166803375
what the phuc
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hee ho

pls post more jack
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>>166780412
>dat combat and boss theme

I'm going to have to mute the TV and put something else on in the background. It's fucking trash.
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>>166803375
looks more like a smart phomp
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>going to fight Merkabah with the usual long-ass cutscene beforehand
>Gaston has awakened!
>set Gaston as your Main Partner?
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>page 10
this never happens to the persona general
we should just give up and let this die while we still can
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>>166811926
Won't allow that to happen.
At least not until we're all dissapointed by the new 3DS game.
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From point do I have enough AGI in Apocalypse?
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>>166811926
Go away /pg/ shill, nobody wants you here.
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>>166808685
>set Gaston as main partner
>he uses a whole turn's worth of press turns
>lose because I was on low health and needed to heal that turn

Never have I ever done a 360 and walked a way as fast as I did then
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>>166811926
>tfw really want to escape the shithole that is pre-P5 ENG /pg/ at most hours of the day and come here, but IVF wasn't any good
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>>166793005
>mfw I'm the only one who likes Midori
Her VA is shit though.
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>>166811926
but I just got here
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>>166736328
>SMT skills and game mechanics
>references
Fuck off, retard
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>>166818571
>press turns
>not a jojo reference
Fuck off, retard
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>>166818759
>>166817359
my niggers
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>>166818759
Amane > Haru > Midori > Shoji > Izuna > Yuzu > Mari
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>>166819348
Amane > Shoji > Mari > Midori > Izuna > Haru > Yuzu
Couldn't stand that emo slut
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>>166819348
haru i understand but why amane?
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>>166819540
I love her design and her banter with the MC. I agree that her muh senpai and muh guilttrips shit was obnoxious as fuck.

>>166819576
She's cute. Also her whole deal with the Shomonkai and the angels and her struggle for a Law world were pretty good. I genuinely found her a great Law representative.
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>tfw only played soul hackers and now I'm playing IVA
IVA isn't bad desu. Not making the most of fusions though and I don't get the whole chaos/law shit.
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>devil survivor
>good

>even worth talking about
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>>166821207
All Megaten games are great though. Except P4 and DeSu 2. Fuck those horse shits.
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Makoto > Fumi > Io > Airi >Otome > shit > Hinako
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>>166819348
Mari is easily better than that faggot Yuzu.
I'd say every girl is decent to great except for that faggot Yuzu.
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>>166821759
>Makoto and Airi above shit
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>>166821759
>posting DeSu 2 girls
>ranking any of them above shit
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>>166822010
I'm willing to move shit up two places, it's been a while. No more than that, though.
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Man I just want to give Airi a big hug and make her cheer up.

She hasn't seemed happy since the moment we met.
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>>166821759
>putting the Goddess that low
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Otome best girl in DeSu2
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desu 2 girls are a worthless collection of stock personality quirks. I would come between fumi's autistic tits though
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>>166822881
All the characters in DeSu 2 are just one trick pony personalities. It still pains me how the writing fell from DeSu 1 to DeSu 2. And it's not like DeSu 1's characters are top notch excellent characters, but they're still infinitely better than the DeSu 2 characters.
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>>166822881
The grills still have more personality than the dudes, though. Except maybe the Anguished One.
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>>166819348
Shoji > Haru > Amane > Yuzu > Mari > Izuna > Midori.
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>>166821759
Otome > Miyako > Fumi > Makoto > Io > Airi > Hinako > Tico
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>>166801193
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>>166818759
>>166819285
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>>166821193
Don't fall for the meme that this general and /r/megaten are spreading.

IV:A has bad to disappointing story, but the game is good.
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>started playing Raidou 1 for the first time today
>it's actually great
It's a damn shame more people haven't played Raidou, it seems underrated even by MegaTen standards.

The price I got it was quite expensive for a PS2 game, were there not as many discs made as with Nocturne and DDS?
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>>166826656
Thanks.
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>>166826910
I love her, even if she's shit
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>>166827945
She's not as bad as people make her out to be. She just really wants to be a Lawfag but doesn't know how to control herself. And gameplay wise she's actually fine. Too bad she doesn't max out MA though.
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>>166698507
Do we have to wait till the 50th anniversary of SMT to get new informations?
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Almost finished with 4. Should I jump right into 4A or go back and play 3
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>>166829020
Jump to 3
4A is just fanservice
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What service does Walter use for message communications?
Hoymail.
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>>166829020
You should have played 4A instead of 4
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>>166829020
Play 4A. It's more fun than 4 and has the edgiest ending. Also YHVH
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I wish Walter was my big brother [/spoiler}
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>>166829583
Your hoynii-san?
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>>166829020
>he didn't play SMT games according to their release dates
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>>166829020
4A is pretty much a better version of 4.
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>>166829643
You mean Hoynii-sama.

Then again, I'm almost 10 years older than he would ever have become, don't know how to feel about this.
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>>166811926
Calm down. There's plenty of generals far more dead than us.
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>>166830640
>-sama.
Considering how he hates the stratification of people like any chaosfag, I'd assume he wouldn't like the -sama honorific.
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>>166811926
I could be dreaming but I think since the Switch Nintendo thingy this general is actually taking up steam.
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>>166830983
Sama doesn't mean necessarily you are polite, just means respect.
Meaning he would either kick my ass brutally or lovingly in the hopes I can one day give him the chan suffix.
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>Been trying to build a PC for the last week but keep getting bum parts
What SMT game should I play and possibly stream when it's done, SMTG?
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>>166832073
SMT I.
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>>166832248
But then we'd be starting from my PS1 save that's already at Roppongi
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This is Master Therion the enemy of humanity, say something nice to him
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>>166832073
Persona 5.
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>>166832354
Cool crown.
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>>166832357
I dunno if the 480 can run that PS3 emulator
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Is ST still useless in Apocalypse? Should I just go full DX again?
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>>166832612
DX only effects gun in Apocalypse, so STR actually has a purpose.

not that I ever use non-gun phys skills in IV with the immunities to it everywhere
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>>166832612
Go DX or go home.
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My interest in the persona games past the first 2 is pretty limited.
I only really like the main SMT games over Persona as well.
However the only thing I really enjoyed about Persona 4 was Kanji.
Does that make me a literal homosexual male?
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>>166832832
So DX is still the best. Thanks.
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>>166830109
Does 4A build off one of the endings of 4, or is it mostly its own thing?
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>>166833121
Liking anything Persona 4 related makes you a faggot.
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>>166833420
It builds off the neutral ending I think.
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>>166833315
Nanashi gets a pierce passive and they nerfed demon resists accross the board in Apoc so phys is also good
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>>166833420
it's a detour right before the endgame of the neutral path
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>>166832612
Depends on which death animations you prefer.
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>>166832612
Your choice really, ST actually affects phys skills this time arround and DX only strenghtens gun skills.

ST has the advantage over DX, in that your physical skills are seldomly resisted and spamming hit all phys skills is like the easiest way to deal with most random encounters.

I still prefer gun though, since you can heavily customize your normal gun attack, for example debuffing a whole group of enemies with an SMG type gun and ailment bullets or sniping bosses with a single target gun and elemental bullets.
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Good thing we can all agree that STR build is best build.
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Starting my first playthrough of IV.
Should I try to get neutral my First playthrough, or my second like it seems to want the player to do.
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>>166833121
No. Kanji isn't gay. His dungeon is a projection of how society sees him. Basically, since he likes cute things that seemingly makes him gay.
Also, Kanji was the only party member that worth a damn in terms of writing so it's normal you end up liking him. Him, Dojima and surprisingly Ai are the only characters that have some depth to them.
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>>166833968
That really depends on how much time and patience you have and if you want to play IVA thereafter.
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>>166833968
The recommended way is Law > Chaos > Neutral but just do it whatever way you want.
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>>166834430
Law > Chaos > Neutral >White
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>>166834513
White doesn't offer much. You can do it as your first ending or last. It simply doesn't matter.
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>>166834513
And don't save at any crossroads or something you need to do a full playthrough every single time.
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>>166834315
I have plenty of free time outside of my job.
I plan on getting Apocalypse at some point after I beat the shit out of IV, or it me.
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>>166833121
>liking any Persona 4 character that isn't Adachi or Dojima
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>>166835046
Adachi was super edgy though.
Though I suppose summoning demons, and killing god is pretty edgy also.
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>>166835023
Ok, then go in blind, then go for the other side and then for neutral, asuming you don't get neutral the first time but that would be a heck of a coincidence.
To complete your demon competendium you actually have to play through the game 3 times.

If that isn't your aim, try to leave both neutral and the other option open for yourself before the final alignment sensitive dialog so you don't have to play the game 3 times.
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>>166836153
Last paragraph refers to the second playthrough of course and there are guides to achive this state.
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>>166835046
Is there an edited image with Dagda being at a party with his feet hurting?
Because that's exactly what this scene reminded my of in context.
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I've been looking for moon reviews of IVF and apparently even long-time mainline fans over there hated Bonds.
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What's worse?
Actually liking Persona 4, or actually liking Pikachu?
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>>166837679
Liking Persona 4. Pikachu is pretty cute.
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>>166837679
but Pikachu is best P4 grill
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What is best SMT OST track of all time?
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>>166840758
That's an impossible question to answer. There are too many options.
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>>166840758
EOIII
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>>166827742
Get back to me when they remake it with the conventional battle system
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>>166840758
https://youtu.be/NFjnPPZi_nA
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>>166840758
ez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPsU-ZMC6SA
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>>166840758
Light shines on the heaven
The earth the spirit
Light brings glory and grace
May it open your eyes to the truth Shanti
Shanti~
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>>166841625
Surely you jest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4PCOAJ80lo
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>>166840758
IV or DDS 1.
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>>166841625
Why are so many people here so entranced by that shitty shlock rock from the PS2 era?
Not only does >>166841552 and other tracks from that game have way more character but so do the newer handheld titles.
SJ is just pure dignity in music form and IV nails that sort of 80s Blade Runner wibe shitty Tokyo definitely inwokes.
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>>166842735
I'll never understand why people love DDS's OST so much. It's so boring and forgettable.
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>>166842735
DDS and Nocturne had some really nice tunes though. Specially the battle themes. But then again I like all OSTs one way or another.
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>>166840758
Maya's theme always gets my dick hard, but if we're talking the main series four gods for sure.

https://youtu.be/6UUlE-n_AFU
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>>166827742
I loved it too. It doesnt have the scale that some of the other SMTs does but the light-hearted noir is great and so is the way the plot goes into such fun extremes.
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>>166840758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD9XERqSER4
I don't think it's the best but I really love it.
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>>166843178
That track alone has so many good arrangements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xITvmGWk7Vs

Sad PSX and P3 my favorites
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>>166841552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCsAVTmsrQ
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Is there anything I should know before playing Digital Devil Saga?

Is the story as nice as Drakengard?
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So call me a faggot all you want but I really dig the IVA crew by now, half way through by the way.
How much harder is the Dagda route? Because I think I just go with that now and do my happy faggot ending for my true save file which will be a + and also on acopalypse.
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Hi /smtg/ i'm about to start this and from what i heard the game is very challenging. Any tips or recommendations?
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>>166848170
Go solo.
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>>166848170
Trustworthy Mastema is the one character you can 100% rely on.
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>>166848170
Don't bother completing the maps it will only wear you out
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>>166840758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZv3hjJz4NI
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>Dagda hates YHVH because he manipulated his daughter Brigid
Why'd they conveniently leave things like this out of the game? Seems like everyone who wasn't friendship route got deliberately writing nerfed.
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>>166849449
nobody cares about the backstory of a demon
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>>166849534
but demons are the best part
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>>166827742
The story direction was amazingly not obnoxious.
I miss Raidou 1.

Too bad the game itself is really primitive in comparison to Raidou 2. Luckily Raidou 1 was very forgiving and you can easily get through the game without having to torture yourself.

>Figure out Raidou 1 fusion
>Put Astral Burst on everything possible.
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>>166849449
That's a nice reference to the whole Saint Brigid ordeal too.
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>>166849449
>shonenshit
>"good" writing
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>>166848170
Mastema is a good guy.
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>>166848170
Do everything Mastema tells you to do.
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>>166849830
is there a single game in the entire series that has objectively "good" writing?
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>>166849449
Adding this would then make Danu even more unlikable.
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>>166851471
There's at least not glaring bias to that extent and endings aren't portrayed as clear cut morally correct/wrong.
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>>166851471
Devil Survivor and Devil Survivor 2. It's also the only games that shows what happens when humans makes decisions without Stephen, or the waifu of Tokyo to hold their hand.
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Pretty good JP review of IVF
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/customer-reviews/R38MW6QARU4Q76/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B016A17R1W#R38MW6QARU4Q76
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>>166851471
No, but most games avoid that issue by being minimally written.
Which is a valid tactic. Over-emphasis on characters and story in a Megaten game is a joke, outside of Devil Summoner and DDS I guess, and having more writing just means that you'll have more bad writing anyway.
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>>166851994
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>>166851994
tj;dr
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>>166832832
Akasha Arts is physical
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>>166849449
>>Dagda hates YHVH because he manipulated his daughter Brigid
Just a stupid asspull. His massacre-explanation is better.
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>>166854996
>His massacre-explanation is better.
More like a conclusion he arrived at because of it.
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>>166855119
He just wanted to be a proper god again, not some demon, and I think that's fair.
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>dubstep
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>finally defeat Merkabah
>about to beat Lucifer
>got him in red, asks me some questions
>run out of beads
>he smirks and kills everyone with Hades Blast
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>>166856939
>not Tetrakarning every turn
Lucifer can barely do anything if you do.
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La reencarnacion de la verdadera diosa en mexico cuando
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>>166860596
Pared cuando amigo?
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The download for Raidou vs. the soulless army OST is broken. Could someone reupload it?
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>>166861323
just torrent it from rutracker or something
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>>166851982
>Devil Survivor 2
>good writing
Jesus. I get it if you said good plot but the writing is garbage.
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>>166860824
vamos a tapar el agujero y shesha pagara por el
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>>166857231
>Tetrakarning
It just feels cheap, so I don't use it
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>>166863964
>caring
He has almighty attacks to use anyway.
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>People who complain about DeSu 2 writing are the same people who think DeSu 1 is the magnum opus of megaten writing
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>people who attack strawman arguments of their own creation are the same people who repost touhou memes
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/smtg/ stinks.
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>>166866658
You know what must be done.
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One of the characters of SMTV will be based on Trump. Your actions?
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>>166866874
Join his faction
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>>166866874
side with mishima and wait for the nuke
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>>166866874
>>166795012
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>>166866874
Come to think of it we never had a FAT FUCKING LUCIFER before
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>>166867103
Pepe is so cringe worthy these days. I feel bad for the guy that created him.
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>>166851471
Original IV.
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>>166867659
do you believe that
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>>166868501
How embarrassing.
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>>166868501
jesus christ kill yourself man
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>>166867591
>cringe
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>>166867591
>cringe
you have to go back
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>>166868982
>>166869362
What? I used the word correctly in that post.
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SMT x Looney Tunes
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The 3ds game is Deviliser
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>>166866874
Wonder why white, conservative fuckboys are in my un-American, Japanese, Devil-worshiping videogame

>>>gb2/pol/
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>>166870814
>You can't be a white conservative and also worship devils
Faggot sissy detected
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>This is what pass as bait on /smtg/
Not even worth a (You) desu
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>>166871250
smtg is a general of chaos
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Please don't post things I dislike. Thank you.
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>>166867591
he peaked when he was mentioned on an American presidential candidate's website
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>>166871345
You say that, but in a world of chaos, we would kill shitposters.
Such as yourself.
Sadly, we fail to live in such a glorious world.
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>>166872320
>we would kill shitposters
>we

Speak for yourself. In a world of freedom, i'd just ignore them.
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>>166871619
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anime ^_^
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>>166876614
cucksona
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Is there a limit to how many points you can put into skills for apocalypse? I already have like 200 points in DX.
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How do you install the automap fix for SMT1? The readme doesn't include anything on that.
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>literally one day off from being able to get every Co-op in P5 to rank 10

I'd rather it at least be two. This is the worst.
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>>166879612
Keep pumping that dex my man.
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>>166879612
999
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In SMT4A what DLC logs only go over 4 not 4A?
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>>166881234
>>166881540
Well shit. Guess I'll keep dumping into DX then.
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>>166879706
Apply patch 1.0(unless your rom is japanese rev 1.1) using any IPS patcher.
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>>166882654
I disagree
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http://gamers-high.com/megami4-final/image/map/yhvh.gif

Is this game worth finishing? The Cosmic Egg felt climactic enough for me honestly.
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>>166885271
If you're already there, and not a gigantic faggot, yes.
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Persona 3/4 is fun
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>>166885698
Tyrone, pls.
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>>166885698
>current year
>still shitposting just to bump a dead general
ishygddt
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>>166885770
>>166885885
Why am I wrong? I'm not saying it's the best SMT game, but they are still fun games
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>>166885646
Should i try to explore the whole thing or use a guide to beeline for the end?

I liked the original SMTIV enough to get all the endings and complete the compendium, dlc included but this just looks insane.
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>>166885980
There's some armor in there, but otherwise you can just beeline it to the end.
It sucks, but it's honestly not as bad as it looks.

I managed to bang my head against the wall, and get through it without the map because I just couldn't find one at the time. If I can make it through, anyone can.
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>>166885980
Actually exploring it isn't as bad as the map makes it look, other than how the floors are huge relative to their complexity. But it's not worth trying to 100% it either (especially since a lot of it is behind stat doors). If you find yourself getting sick of it you may as well use the map, but you should give it a shot properly first.
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When am I supposed to use armor boost kits

Do I use them immediately or do I save them for endgame armors
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>>166886315
Endgame.
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>>166884762
why do this faggot was even trapped in that shinre anyway
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>>166886396
I just hope Navarre doesn't take them away, I can't help but to be nice to most of my friends.
Although Nozomi and the hunters can kiss my ass.
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>>166886740
He had already planned his insurrection, so a previous incarnation of Flynn sealed him.
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>>166885954
I don't disagree with you, I just love to funpost with Tyrone's and Rog's video.
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>>166886154
>>166886265
I guess i'll give it another look tomorrow. Is a level 85 character enough to beat the final boss? I've just been running from all the enemy encounters so far. Apparently i fucked up making a 270 mag and 230 agl character and not solo leveling dex
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>>166886747
You might be able to get the endgame armours by then. There's a free penultimate armour for clearing all challenge quests and then the Ginza stuff. But you can check your DDS titles to see how likely Navarre is to break your stuff (if you don't have Deity's Puppet but have Weaver of Bonds, or if you have two more bonds-points titles than massacre-points titles you're fucked) before you worry about that.
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>>166887226
I have the second tier bonds tittle and the first tier massacre tittle.

But I guess I still have time to be edgy, and ever since Nozomi rattled me out, I've been picking more massacre choices naturally.
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>>166887127
Your level can normally be expected to be >99 for YHVH depending on whether you got the level cap unlock DLC. Magic build is fine even up until endgame, especially with YHVH's resistance gimmick, but you could stop putting points into agility and pump the rest into magic from now on.
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>Ctrl+F Switch
>2 results
>Ctrl+F 3DS
>9 results
Huh

I guess you're not hyped about the new Shin Megami Tensei game?
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>>166888582
the Switch is a stupid meme machine that will not be worth purchasing.

Most autists here already own a 3ds
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>>166888714
this, and is not even an exclusive
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>>166888714
>>166888878
What happened to /smtg/?
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>>166889213
chaos ending you bitch ass messiah
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>>166888714
3ds isn't a meme machine?
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>>166888714

>SMT V will be a switch exclusive and not on PS4

this literally triggers me
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>>166888582
>getting hyped over something we know literally nothing about
Sorry anon, it's not like we're 10 again.

>>166889386
At least you have P5 to play on your PS4. It's not like they're totally leaving it out of the loop.
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>>166887467
>and ever since Nozomi rattled me out, I've been picking more massacre choices naturally.
What the fuck was her problem, anyway? She already knew it was Dagda's fault rather than Nanashi's, not to mention Nanashi is what, 15? What the hell does suddenly pinning all this blame on him even achieve given the Divine Powers were already out and fucking shit up regardless?
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>>166889845
who wants to be the one to get a SMT version of this going
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>>166889845
is this salvationboyz?
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>>166889718
Yeah just like Flynn told everyone he freed the Archangels. Just imagine the reaction.
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>>166889452
>literally nothing
We know it's a brand new title, "next entry of the SMT series", powered by Unreal 4

https://youtu.be/pIIu_kcWXpA

We know Atlus USA said "The new game, which is known only with the placeholder moniker Shin Megami Tensei Brand New Title, will be released on the Nintendo Switch."
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>>166889845
>Do you know what really grinds my gears? The fact that Keith is a thing. Keith contains salvation, why did we go to war with Krishna? Because The Divine Powers has a shortage of salvation, we stole all their salvation and now we are spending tax money on building a universe to keep them out of the universe they supplied with odin. I blow my nose on odins. $
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>>166890315
What's your point?
I'll be interested in talking to you about once we get some real information that we can go off of rather than trying to decide if it's Switch exclusive, or not.
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>>166890419
>rather than trying to decide if it's Switch exclusive, or not
The only people doing this are PS4 owners, I was just surprised at the lack of discussion
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>>166890315
We talked about it plenty when the news was first unveiled. Nothing's happened since so there's not much more to say.
>>
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>>166890575
hey faggot i know you
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>>166890575
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>>166890547
Well here's Kazuyuki Yamai's impressions of the Switch

>What are your impressions on the Nintendo Switch Presentation 2017?
I strongly felt that Nintendo’s goal is to “diversify how consumers play games.”
It is said that the current game market is being pushed by the breakthrough of games for smartphones, but as with the PlayStation, the Nintendo 64 and the Sega Saturn, which brought a lot of excitement to the market, I hope that the new playing method proposed by the Nintendo Switch will convey the pleasures of games to many people, making them a greater topic of discussion, and revitalizing the industry.

>What functions and features of the Nintendo Switch are you particularly interested in?
I think about how “showing off video games directly to somebody” is a big appeal because it is a stationary console that can be carried around, allowing players to show their favorite games directly to their friends.
I think it is a great thing to be able to play intuitive and enthusiastic games that everyone can enjoy in a social sense, like with “ARMS.”
I would be glad if solid software became more recognized like our “Shin Megami Tensei.”
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>>166890673
same desu
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>>166890763
whos this faggot?
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>>166890808
who are you?
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>>166890871
im the chef
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>>166890871
im the guy who kills the bus driver
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>>166890871
im SINGHAM
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>>166890975
no i'm singham
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>>166891020
no i am you you double GOTYA
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>>166891020
>>166890975
just how many of you fuckers are there
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>>166891091
you are a SAVALKAR
I AM THE TRUE SINGHAM
>>
>>
fucking name fags
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>>166891308
kys you stupid anon normie
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I want to fuck Shesha
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>>166891359
same desu
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>>166891359
nigga get that shit outta here
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>>166843665
Yeah. The P3 version of the song is really genuinely good, but it's also needlessly fucking emotionally. Always makes me feel bad feels when I hear it.
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>>166891552
persona 3 is shit. go play a real smt game like demikids
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>>166891587
>demikids
play a real game like jack brothers
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>>166891587
I don't even like Persona 3 goy.
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>>166848170
Don't trust (((Mastema))).
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>>166891875
this guy is a lire and a heathen
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I leave you guys for an hour, and the thread goes to hell.
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>>166891875
How could you say such blasphemous and clearly untrue things, son of man?!
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>>166892356
just stop
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Dude, you Fucking stole my meme you bag of dicks. Kill yourself
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>>166892206
Where is Nakajima senpai?
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>>166892558
With Serph senpai
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Hope you guys are sleeping well.
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>>166895863
I didn't.
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>>166889718
Especially considering that later when Innanna's possession of Toki is revealed she just goes "haha oh yeah I should've known, but nothing we can do about it now!"
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>>166895863
Slept lie a rock.
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>>166890542
Final/Apocalypse was such a letdown, people aren't really caring about the next game until we atleast know something concrete about the gameplay or story instead of some standard trailer material.
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>>166900317
is that why this general is six feet under
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>>166900784
It's not that dead. I've seen it far more dead between post-IV and before Final's announcement. And even then, there's tons of worse generals.
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Reminder to post Hoys.
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>>166902117
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>>166902117
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>>166902223
Reminder to post NAMED Hoys.
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>>166902279
I ain't namin' shit, hoyo.
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>>166902320
You monster.
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>>166902405
The creative juices just ain't flowin', man.
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>>166902503
I pity you.
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>>166902576
You just expect too much from me, that's all.
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>>166902642
Perhaps.
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>>166902729
Hoy! That was the next one I was going to post.
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>>166902784
It's a dog eat dog board. First to post wins.
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How do we save SMT, lads?
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>>166902847
I guess you're right about that.

>>166902849
We don't. It's gone forever, never coming back.
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>>166902849
>Use all the good things from previous games and pour them all into one game. This includes Moon mechanics, elements, good dungeon designs, etc
>Make a 10/10 atmosphere but that's a given
>Add Koduka as a composer and Kaneko as designer.
>Make alignment representatives actual likable characters that present actual solid arguments for their alignment.
>Add Hard/Very hard modes that can't be switched midgame
>Make Physical/Gun skills use HP
>Zan
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>>166903173
>Gun skills use HP

Should use ammo instead.
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>>166903173
>Make Physical/Gun skills use HP
"no"
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>>166903220
Gun should be divided. Skills use HP but normal attacks have bullets with added effects that can be changed mid battle.

>>166903243
At least make them use MP% instead of a flat MP number then.
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>>166902849
make every attack a QTE
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>>166903243
Nigger, it makes no sense for physical and gun skills to use magic points.
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>>166903354
it takes MP to fuel your body
in fact my mana is being drained right now because I'm typing
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>>166903409
Mana affects magic and elements. Muscles and body (HP) affect how strong you hit and your aiming.
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>>166903409
That's HP.

Also, magic doesn't exist.
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>>166903540
>Also, magic doesn't exist.
Well fuck you
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>>166903354
guns have ammo in persona and phys takes HP. persona children are beating us right now and you don't even care
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>>166903674
wtf i love persona now
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Friendship is a crutch of weaklings
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>>166904051
This tbqh famalam-senpai-tachi.
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Guys

SMT x Trauma Center

Would you play?
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>>166905629
Yes but I just want more Trauma Center.
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>>166905629
No but I just want more SMT
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>>166905629
Maybe.
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>>166905756
Strange TC didn't get a game for the Wii U. It would have been perfect platform
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so guys wheres the jack frost shop in nocturne after beating thors clan someone pointed it to it again

also where am I supposed to go/do after beating the cheetamen dual-swords boss?

I took a break of some weeks and try to get into it again
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Did they nerf Drain in DeSu2? I have almost more MA than I did in DeSu and doing way less damage.
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>>166906160
I've been thinking the same thing about a WiiU Pokemon Snap sequel.

Lot of missed potential on that piece of shit console.
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>>166906504
They probably nerfed it. I remember it being a lot more useful in DeSu 1.
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>>166906504
DeSu2 made multi-strike OP as fuck. Should've invested in Agi and then Str instead.
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Neutral.

Always.
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>>166907112
Neutral

Never.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG2ikOeXkyU
>only track I can recall with female vocals
What did they mean by this?
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>>166902849
SMT Nocturne x Strange Journey
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>>166907624
with the bog twins as the final bosses in all routes
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>3ds can play all mainline games aside nocturne.
>Nocturne will never get a port with updated compedium.

My ps2 is fucked to boot.
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>>166906776
Fuck. Oh well.
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>>166906480
Fog Breath, War Cry. Same tactics for 95% of the boss fights. Buff / debuff them into uselessness.
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>>166907798

how would I get SMT I and II working on a hacked 3ds?

yes I am retarded when it comes to using an emulator on anything not a PC.

Would I just installed a .cia of an emulator and it would play the .smc files fine?

its probably that simple.
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>>166907798
They managed to put DQ8 on 3DS. Can't be much harder.
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>>166902271
Sauce?
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Black Frost renamed Jaaku Frost when?
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>>166910207
When Jack Bros. 2 releases.
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>>166910758
So never
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I fucking love SMT.
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Zelda Oracle of SMT
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>>166913358
Demi-Fiend in Dreamland.
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>>166888714
I remember when two screens was a meme. Or when motion controls was a meme. Or 3D.
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>>166905629
Trauma Center is already SMT. They get their powers from demons.
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>>166914134
3D is and always was a meme. Even Nintendo is giving up on it.
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>you can't fuse Dagda
Goddamnit.
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>>166914134
Two screens is still a meme. Atlus managed to make use of it in a convinient way, but that's all it was. A convinience, but wholy unnecessary.
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Alioth Neurotoxin one shots everyone before I can even get near the place to put the neutralizer

Well, I was saying the game was easy and then it hit me with this wall. What kind of fucking auto attack at the start of the round does 200+ damage what the fuck
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>>166917129
You really have to be severely underleveled if Alioth can one shot you.
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>>166918584
Alioth is Lv 45

I'm level 34
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>>166918584
>>166918754
Well I finally managed to get to Alioth after fusing a decent Devil Speed demon and ignoring all of the little poison things it shot out. And it died in one turn from Hero getting 2 Force Dance off and Alioth targetting my Drain Elec demon

I guess I should start up VIT instead of pure MA
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>>166866874
The true Shin MAGAmi Tensei starts here
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>>166892558
died in nuclear hellfire
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>>166921469
>The true Shin MAGAmi Tensei
>True true megami tensei
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>>166866874
Nothing has changed. Kill everyone.
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>>166866874
>Tamagami
His future version is already in.
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>>166866874
Fuse it with slime.
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Just starting strange journey, so these questions gave me WORLD OF STR physical build. are there any shit stats in this one?
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>>166925069
there's a reason why he's called "the item dispenser" don't worry about your stats
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There are far too many demons that only show up in the older series

I hope they bring some of them back
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>>166903409
>-40 MP for each shitpost
holy shit we have lots of mages here
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>>166925069
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>>166903540
>magic doesn't exist
Come again, bitch?
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Was she happy she died?
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what megaten character has the smelliest farts?
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>>166930091
Yes because she wants to ride the corpse cock carousel
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>>166930091
if it was at your hands
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>>166930702
That's pretty fucked but I'd let her. She respects herself more than Asahi does anyways "I know I'm useless blah blah blah."
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That 2nd Shesha fight was incredibly boring.
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>get the "purple mirror with repel all" meme in Devil Survivor 2
>his spells suck anyway

wew
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>>166933731
Considering the way teams work it's not like it matters much if he repels everything, no?

At least that how I remember it.
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>>166933731
I always avoid repels anyway, I'd much rather null or drain. Repel can just end up healing the other guy in many cases.
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Does anyone happen to have SMT (I-II-If) .apk files for Android?
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What alignment in SMT1 gets me the closest to punching both God and Satan in the face? Do I fight the major players of Law and Chaos if I choose Neutral?
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>>166934724
Just buy them.
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>>166934925
Yes, in Neutral nobody likes you and you have to fight all bosses from both routes.
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>>166912712
Me too ho
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>page 9
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>Even after 4 playthroughs I still get list in tokyo in smt 4

The worst part is that i lived for some time
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>>166934724
doesn't snes emulation work?
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>page 10
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>Ometeotl's portrait spins around during Demon Whisper.
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>>166944472
Vagina and dick noses.
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>>166936438
What can I do to shift myself back to Neutral from Law? I think I might be full-on Lawfag right now, just defeated the Security System in the Police Headquarters
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>>166944267
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>>166944734
I could be wrong, but I think that not agreeing to help any faction when something is asked of you but then doing what you're asked to do anyway enables you to basically do both and kill both sides. But you're better off checking an allignement FAQ, I remember there was some stuff you could do repeatedly to shift allignements but I forget which. Just remember not to agree with anyone on story events, basically.
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>>166945029
Alright, thanks.
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>>166933731
I remember using that Free Command add-on and made one that's actually pretty useful. And repel physical is great for the final boss.
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>Yuzu and Midori leave when I decide to become Demon Lord
>Atsuro stays
What a bro
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>>166947591
Atsubro is the fucking bro. He sticks with in every route regardless of what you do.
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>>166698507
>http://shin-megamitensei.jp/
Still "coming soon"....
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>>166948096
Was just about to post this

Fucking Atlus, stop teasing us
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is walter mexican
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>>166950674
>>
is jimenez mexican
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>>166951774
ethnically
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>>166928387
Magic does not exist, even if it did, it's shit, you bitch ass messiah.
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>>166949542
I must know it that soon means days, weeks or months
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>>166935928
>Not available in your country.

>>166941896
I want to play the Android/iOS version, that's why I asked.
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>>166954042
android has a snes emulator
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Hoy.
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Hoimi
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How many girls are there?
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>>166959797
Three.
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>>166959797
do male megamis count
>>
Truly we were a Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
>>
Yuuki Yuuna X SMT when
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>>166961331
looks like shitex
>>
Anyones got a link for the SMTIVApocalypse OST?
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>>166960537
It's already night. The perfect time for a Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne featuring Dante from Devil May Cry(TM) series.
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>>166930091
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>>166848170
Mastema is a nice guy and Asherah is best demon girl. I also got a demon code for someone if you want it.
>>
Should I play SMT I on SNES or wait for the 3DS project which may or may not be a remake?
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>>166962894
Just play smt III and IV
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>>166963028
Already did IV and in Kagutsuchi in Nocturne.
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>>166962894
SNES isn't too long with estoma + turbo grinding
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>>166962894
Play it on SNES
>>
DEATH BY MUDO
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>>166966647
Repel Dark
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>>166962018
I don't know how, but Inanna's expression and body makes the whole thing work. I wished there was some way to keep Toki's mind in Inanna's body. It would've made the whole Massacre a challenge when Inanna Toki births hordes of demons to slow you down.
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I just started playing Final and I remember something about a gothic lolita costume. Where and when can I get this? I need it ASAP please respond.
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>>166969501
sorry brah is endgame
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>>166969847
Why is the "let's put the best everything at the end of the game" meme still alive? Fuck this game, dropped. I don't want to play 60 hours to get it.
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>>166970057
kek good riddance faggot
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>>166970057
Get lost, homo.
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>>166970413
>>166970452
Don't ever reply to my posts again.
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>>166972726
SMT x ActRaiser when
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I just started playing Devil Summoner 1 on PS2. Fuck this is fun. Why did I put this off.

I'm really enjoying the combat.
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>>166976119
at least someone that dont shit on it
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>>166892206
who was the first hero? has it ever been said?
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>>166976181
Gee, i dunno, man.
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>>166976270
WE
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>>166976150
It's only because he just started.
By the end of the game, he'll grown to hate it, and that's fine.
I was the same way.
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>>166976270
I'm new to these games (IV shitlord/ watched someone play Noc)
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took 'em half a game to understand that random chanting on top of minimal drums doesn't make a good dungeon crawling music, holy shit, eridanus is quite enjoyable so far
>>
NO WAR
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>>166976270
it was nakajima you cunt
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>>166977903
the meme that sj has a bad soundtrack needs to die. its easily the most atmospheric out of all of them, truly gives the feeling of a human being being lost in a strange land.
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>>166979025
>Random chanting and drums
>Evocative of being lost in a strange land

Sure, friend.
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>>166979025
Just ignore them, anon.
Nothing can cure shit taste.
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>>166979138
What is it evocative of then genius?
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>>166979025
yeah, sure, it was really enjoyable to listen to this for two hours while running around in carina

https://youtu.be/NlPA5FbOk-o
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>>166979279
Yes, it was. That song fits the sector theme perfectly.
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>>166979254
Somebody who thinks that "conflict between gods and demons" is equitable with cliche gothic music
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>>166979356
>gothic music
is almost all military march style you dumb fuck
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>>166979431
Yes, chanting choirs are so military.
Are you off to pillage the Saracens or something?
What are you doing in a devil-worshipping tapestry weaving circle?
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>>166979336
No. It fits to Antlia which was a battlefield. It doesn't fit to a shopping center themed dungeon. Same goes with Bootes. A track with random chanting with a minimal beat doesn't fit to a red district themed dungeon. They can mimic the visuals but can't mimic music?
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>>166979679
If you didn't get a military march vibe I honestly don't know what to say.
>>166979730
I get a corrupted wonderland from the carina theme, much like how companies pretend to have your best interests in mind, although all they care about is profit.
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>>166979138
>implying africa isn't a strange land
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>Secret Eye Power Seal
Is this a Chuunibyou reference?
>>
>playing through Apocalypse
>beginning is still tough, but I'm having an easier time than with IV
>actually killed the bosses up to King Frost on my first try
But I just can't get rid of the feeling I'm progressing through the game at a snail's pace. I'm nine hours into the game, and I'm only level 18 and only unlocked one extra skill slot for MC and the demons.
At least the negotiations seem to be more consistent than before. Than in any other SMT game really. I especially like how the demons recognize you after you tried to recruit them previously, and are much more likely to join you.
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>>166982690
Chuu2 wasn't the first anime to employ the eyepatch, no. Watch more cartoons.
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>>166983297
>Chuu2 wasn't the first anime to employ the eyepatch
but it is the worst!
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>>166982490
I wish these art books would be reprinted.
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>>166984312
Yeah, you and I both.
Maybe someday.
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Are there subquest in Nocturne?
I'm already level 30 but I haven't seen a single one
I know the kalpas are technically one but I really like the subquests in the series
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>>166984545
What's funny is there's supposed to be a new volume releasing, but no news on reprints.
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>>166986291
Better than nothing, I guess. Maybe I can get one this time.
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>>166979025
The meme that all SMT games are bad needs to die.
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So is any of the IV save bonuses when you start Apocalypse any good? I imported the american version of IV and gonna play the european Apocalypse.
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>>166987680
What are the save bonuses even?
I've got a ring which gives +1 to every stat. I think it's not a DLC item. What else is there?
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>>166987923
Just googled it:

normal bonuses:
-4 Bead, 2 Balm of Rising, Gold Death Mask, Hero Earring (accessory: +15 MP, +3 to all stats)
-"Kingdom of East Mikado" DDS Card background, "Stalwart" DDS Card title
-40 AP to people you Streetpass
clear times bonus:
-20 Point Card (number received equal to number of times cleared, maximum of 4)
Law Route clear bonus:
-"Ruler of Order" DDS Card title
Chaos Route clear bonus:
-"Lord of Chaos" DDS Card title
Neutral Route clear bonus:
"Bright Star of Hope" DDS Card title
Nothingness Ending clear bonus:
-"One who Fades into Fiction" DDS Card title

Welp, if this is it then it's pretty garbage. Is there anything more?
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>>166988050
>DDS Card title
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
The ring's nice to have though.
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New thread is up.

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>>166988205
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>>166976565
This thing is the only disappointing thing about Raidou 1. The story is fun as fuck and the combat is samey but find for PS2.

I seriously have no idea where all the hate comes from.
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>>166979730
>>It doesn't fit to a shopping center themed dungeon.
>he thinks Antlia is your average shopping center
>not realizing it is a deconstruction of shopping centers
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