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Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, January 26th:
1564 – The Council of Trent establishes an official distinction between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism.
1565 – Battle of Talikota, fought between the Vijayanagara Empire and the Deccan sultanates, leads to the subjugation, and eventual destruction of the last Hindu kingdom in India, and the consolidation of Islamic rule over much of the Indian subcontinent.
1885 – Troops loyal to The Mahdi conquer Khartoum, killing the Governor-General Charles George Gordon.


>News
CK2 DD37 - Three Times Greater
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-dd-37-three-times-greater.994778/

EU4 - 17/01
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-17th-of-january-2017.994909/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!PQgxyACD!bpcXXoWI3Pfu_PJ1_sz5D7wKYO2OStEWr_npgpw0B_w

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V9
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>166628930
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>>166698489
>shitposters
>not shitposting
kys
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>>166698489
fuck off
sage
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>>166698489
You can't report people, you can only report their posts.
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Stop making threads 25 posts early, you fucking nigger.
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>>166698510
>cheating
Only valid way is to use yesman to get a white peace
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>>166698489
We are reaching a whiteness level unknown until now.

Pretty based desu
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>another epic infopic edit with weebshit and grammatical errors
Fuck off
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Actual thread

>>166698703

>>166698703

>>166698703
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Thoughts?
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I tried to make a thread with updated "this day in history," but I fucked up and forgot to change the date to the 27th even though the events are right. I wish I could just delete it, but of course Hiro doesn't allow me to delete my own threads. And by the time I posted it this thread was already up, so it's really useless now.

So if you see the thread with the Song dynasty shit in the header, please just ignore it. I hope it gets deleted by a janitor and that I don't get banned.
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>>166699181
>japano-german hybrids
where do i sign
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>>166699510
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>>166699181
That's pretty disgusting but honestly India should have been split between France and Britain, and China and Japan should have been colonized by someone
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>>166699181
aesthethic
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>>166700363
Russia should have China and Japan (those countries are so stupid I don't really get why they exist desu)

India should have had cultural dominion over at least one European country, to give Christianity a contender without mixing genes.
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>>166700363
ye
>>166700849
>Russia should have
no fuck you

Here's the autistic backstory:
>During the Middle Ages a deadly plague spreads across Eastern Europe, devastating areas of Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania and Poland. One of the groups which survived remarkably well were the Teutonic Order and the German settlers of the Baltic, referred to by their history henceforth as the Teutons, who overtime expanded into and (partially)colonized European Russia before moving into Siberia (in this world called Tartary or Tartarei in German). By the mid 1700s the recently unified German Empire (unified largely thanks to the ambitions and superior manpower of the Teutons) stretches from Alsace to the Pacific Ocean. Their last major threat to their dominion over Asia was the Chinese Ming Empire. However, China had recently begun to fall into chaos, as the Ming dynasty collapsed earlier than in our timeline and the lack of a clear heir resulted in a slow decline into anarchy. Those in the courts of the contenders who expressed concern that the northern barbarians were becoming surprisingly and dangerously well armed fell on deaf ears as the pretenders started to court German power in the hopes of securing their own position. Thus, Germany was dragged into the developing quagmire of China, playing court against court and would-be-emperor against would-be-emperor. Over the next century various areas of China came under German protection in a process the British East India Company would be impressed by until, in the 1880s, the last independent Chinese realm, the southern Long Empire, fell to German invasion over accusations of sponsoring partisan activities in the German sphere.

1/2
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>>166700849
>>166700989
Tbh Russia should have Mongolia, Manchuria, Korea, Shakalin and Hokkaido. Formosa, Kyushu and the other jap island should go to the Dutch and the rest of Japan to Spain or Portugal. China should be colonized by everyone Africa style
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>>166700989
>With the fall of the Long the whole of China had come under German rule. This rapidly became too hard to manage as a whole and in response the lawmakers in Konigsberg drafted the Declaration of the Ten "Governates" (a word developed in this timeline), which divided German China into ten smaller regions named after their capital city whose governments were separate from the various vassals and protectorates of the German Far East. The Ten Governates would remain until the 20th century, where growing nationalist uprisings eventually toppled German rule in China and later elsewhere in the vast empire. One remarkable feature of the German Empire was its strong multi-ethnic component. There were never as many German settlers in Tartary than Russians in Siberia, so they made far more extensive use of native populations of both Eastern Europe and Central Asia. In governing China Germans stood in service alongside not only Poles, Ukrainians, Georgians and Russians, but Turkemens, Mongols, Manchurians, Koreans, Kazakhs and even Yakuts as well. It is often said that the German Empire was not so much German as it was Germans sitting on top of the vast ethnic groups under their rule and nowhere was this more apparent than in China.
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>>166700152
Make the eagle white and make the disc/eagle smaller
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>>166700989
Dude, calm down. I only said Russia because of geographical location.
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>>166700849
>without mixing genes
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Playing Bavaria in HPM, what does my "Nationalize the Industry" decision do? It doesn't actually say anything other than that it "nationalizes the industry"

What effects does that give?
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This should be the OP pic
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Based Erdogan
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>>166698425
why don't I enjoy video games anymore?
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>>166702123
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Based Janny
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now all we need is the commies
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>>166701757
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>>166702139
because you are growing up, living the craddle

I know, I got the same feeling. I just don't know where to go from here.
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t. /gsg/ when?
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wew, they really want to know it now.
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>>166702139
I swear I've seen that house before. It's freaking me out.!
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>>166702123
>Grandi Strategy General
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>>166701974
When other nations build factories on your territory, they use their own technology instead of your nation's. When you nationalize them, it normalizes this and all factories start using your nation's techs.
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haven't played in grand strategy in a year

Any good expansions come out lately?
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>>166701974
>>166702734
This also makes the nation that originally built the factories in your territory to lose all of their industry score coming from foreign investiment in your country.
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>>166702918
nope

ck2 with pops and strategic materials when
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>>166702918
NWO mod is the best grand strategy experience to come out since then.
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>>166702540
I had the same reaction.
I think it's just a common floorplan for shitty apartments.
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>>166702986
Do they still get a free CB to puppet you like in Vanilla?
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>>166702734
>>166702986
How can I tell what nations own what factories? What makes other nations build factories in your states? I don't think I've ever had that happen before, but I've only played as America and Prussia before so this is the first game where I'm paying close attention to my industry.
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>>166702918
They fixed Stellaris, it's now actually___________________________________j/k
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>>166703491
The lack of a space before your spoiler gave it away.
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>>166703135
It actually has a lot of potential. My biggest problem is the massive slowdown because there's just so many fucking pops. Other than reducing the amount of pops I'm not sure how to solve the issue though.

Separate question though lads, playing as the UK in victoria 2 zombie mod with anons improvements and I need suggestions on who to save.

India is currently safe, have a 33k stack on every border province (using the uncrossable himalayas to my advantage) and 2 extra armies in India to help with any depleted armies.

I've got 6 33k stacks from the UK mainland, building 2 more. With those 6 I could defend most of Italy (3 province stretch along ferrara-modena) and most of greece (3 province stretch right where it bumps up against albania) or I could defend all of italy with the 6 stacks using the alps to fill gaps.

I'm also trying to figure out how to save iberia, France gave me military access so if I can squeeze out one more stack before zombies override europe I can protect iberia from the french side of the pyrennes where there's a 3 province stretch.

What do lads??

pic related, it's me as I watch China's population turn into zombies
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>>166703591
I know, the spoiler was on another line in the box so I didn't realize I had backspaced until after I posted
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>>166703727
>Other than reducing the amount of pops
You could probably make 1 POP = 100 people without needing to change all that much.

Also, one problem that makes it a bit shit is soldiers, the pops always cluster in a single province in a state (making raising 50 brigades from that one province literally decades) and non-accepted cultures never promote to soldiers/can only be trained as shitty infantry so minority majority countries get a bit shafted.
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>>166704168
I actually like the soldiers clustering in one province of a state, especially for the modern setting of NWO, but they need to decrease the build time of units by half or more.

Yeah honestly removing a 0 at the end of every pop number would do wonders. Reducing the number of people a unit requires would also be good. Not sure if you can individually change brigades to be like a brigade of jets is just 300 jets while still having a brigade of motorized infantry be 3000
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Has HoI4 v1.3 fixed the stuff of the earlier versions?

-naval invasions
-naval bombers
(those aren't necessarily important)
-factory retention does it actually work?
-AI in general
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>>166704740
Last time I saw that posted it started a commie shitstorm.
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>>166704556
>I actually like the soldiers clustering in one province of a state
Sometimes they end up in the province with the best RGO though. Tb h though I do wish troops in vicky were just raised on a per-state level, it would cut out a fair bit of micromanagement autism.
>individually change brigades to be like a brigade of jets is just 300 jets while still having a brigade of motorized infantry be 3000
If you factor in non-combat support personnel that's not something that is worth messing with, even if it were possible
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How fucked am I?
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Sorta new to the game, is there any way in EU4 for me to view what an opposing AI controlled country's diplomatic reputation is?
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>>166704740
No stop asking.

Hoi4 is like Eu4. No amount of dlc and patches will truly fix it.
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>>166704823
why?
>muh raycissm
can't make jokes about black people unless you are black.
Oh wait my father got an high melanin content :^) check your privilege I guess
carefully not mentioning I'm not from the US
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>>166704914
Mongolia is white and based.
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>>166705039
>my father got an high melanin content
>I'm not from the US
Genuinely interested in your race and nationality now.
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>>166705039
>spoiler
t. Nonwhite >American hoping he won't get deported/gassed by based Drumpf
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>>166703727
Zombiemod guy here, can you show your world so far? Do you have any suggestions for the mod? I plan on making events to give human countries military access to certain nations if they start getting infected for the next version.
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>>166705327
>Zombiemod guy here
Doesn't that shit already exist since like a year ago? What makes yours different?
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>"At last", he sighed heavily, "Peace, in the North American continent!"
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>>166705460
>No New Amsterdam
Medium-tier
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Redpill me on why Carlist Spain is more based than normal Spain because desu I don't like the flag that much
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>>166704923
pls reply ;_;
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>>166703421
Anyone?
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>>166705424
>What makes your different
Well, so far I've:
>Fixed zombie expansion events so now every major country has to deal with them in some way
>Started on refugee events for certain pops in certain regions to flee to areas
>Made it easier for AI to save provinces from zombies, most countries still die though
>Added pop growth decisions and events for all nations to repopulate the world
>Added decisions to increase immigrant attraction if you are zombie free during the plague
>Added new decisions for suspending the government (Old state of emergency broke the game most of the time)
>Fixed the ctds the version HPM had when trying to use decisions
>Countries now turn to wasteland if they get low on pops (sub 100 in capital)
>Life rating can come back in some provinces
>Countries can actually "lose" to zombies (It was in the base mod but the event was impossible to fire)
>General fixes

I plan to add more as well, such as a Babist civil war in Persia and another, seperate African plague in the 1890s
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Incompetence like this should be illegal.
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>>166705460
>chiraq
>Amerikanisher VolkstBstaat
ok
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>>166706051
>>chiraq
Don't even know what you were shooting for here
>>VolkstBstaat
How hard is it to google German double s?
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>>166702123
seven, wow
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>>166704923
Anybody?
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>>166706171
Chiraq is a reference to Chicago being full of African Americans and Caucasians from the Middle East (The "Iraq" part of the portmanteau refers to the country Iraq)
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>>166703421
>>166705850
You can't but you can guess if your nation doesn't have a lot of capitalists, and generally nations will only invest on you if they're trying to sphere you.
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>>166706178
>reminder to report and ignore shitposting
>his smug ass face
Lost.
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>>166706178
there were also ones on /pol/, /his/, and /mlp/
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>>166701571
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>>166706547
Install an image program that's not MS paint, you nigger.
>that imperial japanese communist byzantium one
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>>166706538
doesn't fucking count retard
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>>166706634
>Install an image program that's not MS paint, you nigger.
no

Well I have photoshop but I'm not gonna open that up when I just need to fill in a few colours for comparison.
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>>166706538
>were
>>/pol/109326326
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>>166704923
Fuckin spoonfeed me, google wasn't turning up anything.
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>>166705327
My save was in 1848 and the mysterious plague event hadn't fired yet (forgot that the older version is bugged where it tries to fire event 990000002 instead of 990002 or w/e)

I manually fired the plague event when I started with your update and then it fired again on it's own a few days later. It's only 1855. I'll post an update at 1860 after the plague has had a chance to wreck some countries besides china
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>>166706757
FUCK
>>>/pol/109326326
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>>166706813
Pedobear is still funny after all these years.
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are we still not allowed to talk about hoi4
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>>166706538
and /x/
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>>166701571
>>166706547
I first thought the white eagle would be a good idea but looking at the mockup it makes it look too P*lish.
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>>166706883
that's his distant cousin, spurdo sparde you meme illiterate tard

now spoonfeed me like I asked :^)
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>>166706408
How can I invest in nations a great power? Since I can usually manage to get Bavaria to be a great power before 1850
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is lucky star /gsg/?
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>>166707253
Lucky Star is unwatchable
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>he doesnt pronounce the n in government
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>>166706852
>1848
Oh shit, in my mod the plague dies off in 1851, meaning that it won't go anywhere past there. You might have to start a new save, I didn't expect anyone to start past 1840.
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>>166705327
Everything was going so well. Had slaughtered hundreds of thousands of zombies, usually in 30k to 40k stacks. Then what I'm assuming are zombies from China's most populous provinces started rolling up.

After a couple years of fending off zombies most of my troops in this area have at least 3 stars experience + the mountains + level 3 forts. Generals are okay, no super great ones. Still even with inflicting 5,000 to 9,000 casualties for every 50 I take I think I might get overwhelmed if there's too many more. I have more stacks on the other side of India protecting the pakistan flank but if I take them away the zombies will start to pour in and I'm not sure if I have a better chance playing whack a mole than this because they'll inevitably manage to occupy a few provinces and start getting reinforcements from them.

Might abandon greece and ship 3 more armies to India from Europe.

Interesting sidenote, because I've taken the brunt of the chinese zombie horde most of siberia is still owned by Russia, although they are slowly losing it. Austria has been completely overrun but Germany united so Europe will be interesting in the next decade.
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>>166706964
What mod?
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>>166707386
Dies off in 1851 by event? I can just change the date to 1861 or something. I thought the zombie plague was supposed to end when there were no more zombie occupied provinces and the zombies had been wiped out/no countries had the zombie outbreak modifier.
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>>166707253
Lucky Star borders on 4X but yes, I would say it does qualify
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>>166707052
Here's a tutorial that covers your issue https://youtu.be/eLyrllt2SyM
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>>166707648
disgusting
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>>166707592
If any provinces still have the zombie outbreak modifier then you're good, otherwise there might be a problem. Never tried putting it in 1855 immediately, so either all the zombies will die or an infinite number of zombies will pour out of China since the modifier no longer reduces their pops, could be fun too.
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>>166707559
>>166706964
fairly certain its just called WW1 mod or something.

its still in the works, but it isnt that bad as it stands.
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is Jojo /gsg/?
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>>166698425
wtf is this op image.... you guys have memed it too far
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>>166707648
>>166707648
Disgusting.
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>>166707487
anon, they're going to come from the indian states
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>Franco qonquers Madrid on his own
>starts a two pronged attack on the catalonian coast to get Barcelona
wtf I am now a /johanmissile/
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>>166707965
no cause I've kept them secure

>>166707785
China's pop has been decreasing, do you mean the modifiers of the province don't reduce the pops but some pops still turn into zombies? Maybe I fucked up installing your update
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>>166708134
Nah, you installed it fine, I just didn't take into account that starting at a different date would screw up the zombies.

And yes, I meant the province modifiers for zombies. If those are there in the zombie occupied provinces then there isn't anything wrong
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is boku no picu /gsg/?
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>>166708245
uh the provinces controlled by zombies don't have any province modifiers. What's supposed to trigger that? One of my provinces got the zombie outbreak modifier but after putting down the zombies and having no zombies in my country for awhile it disappeared.
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>>166708667
Nope

Doesn't have any DLC
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>>166708714
As soon as a zombie occupies a province it gets that modifier until it gets freed.

Hmm, if you want them to actually depopulate provinces and make more zombies you'll need to either console the date or restart, I'm really sorry about that but there's not much else I can think of.
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>>166708846
They are depopulating provinces and making more zombies, maybe I'm just not looking in the right place. What's the event or w/e that triggers it?
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>Ethiopia
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>>166709358
Post the other one again, all I have is the thumbnail.
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>>166709398
It was the wrong screenshot.
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The battle rages on!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VDIlcTPsSQ
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>>166709447
Yes but it is something to look at.
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>>166709358
Wat
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Anyone play For the Glory?
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>>166709497
>is literally a fucking arrow
You can't meme this shit.
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>>166709517
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>>166709574
>Ghurkaniyan
>others
What is this?
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>>166709557
One down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1SlBlB5pzU
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Central Asia is impossible
plz send help
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>>166709651
It's just country names replaced with native ones.
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Okay zombiemod guy sorry but I think I'm just gonna have to start a new game. Pops were decreasing, China has half the population it started with but it seems to have stopped? New zombies keep appearing from occupied provinces but there's no modifier that I can see.

All that hard work into preserving India wasted baka I will try again another time
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>>166709861
start by fixing lake shadows if you're gonna be staring at them all game
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Why can't I just genocide one culture, my inability to genocide kurds is ruining my turk campaign
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And now to consolidate power and organize all of these territories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACf5ZYxPqes
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t. realpolitik pro
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>>166710780
You forgot to post the 50k frenchmen on ogga booga island
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>>166710780
>inb4 they add a wargoal to dismantle forts in timbuktu and only enforce that at +100% warscore
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>still no Circassian ethnicity in HIP

Sad!
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>>166710387
>not posting the superior village people version
I should have known you had shit taste from what game you're posting.
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EUIV begginer here, how do I influence electors to choose another emperor different than Austria? I have a PU with the palatinate and I can diplo anex them in a few years, but I don't know if that even helps, I just need a different Emperor than Austria they are very hard to deal with at war and I don't have any strong enough allies. I'm playing as Denmark, already integrated Norway and Sweden we are in the late 1500's I would appreciate some help.
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>>166711998
Back the fuck off, okay?!
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>>166711998
Just keep good relations and aly electors. If you hover over them it will tell you why they vote for people.
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HOW DO I CHEAT IN GOODS?????
VIC2 ECONOMY IS A MEME
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>>166711998
>-50 for independent electors towards a candidate with electoral subjects (stacks).

So having palatinate in a PU(if they are an elector) should be very bad for you if you want the others to vote for you.

Unless you vassalize even more electors.
>+50 for subject electors, towards their overlord.
You have two ways of doing it, either get like half of the electors as your subjects, or none of them as your subjects.


High diplomatic reputation, high relations with the elector, alliance with the elector(+30), royal marraige with the elector(+10) helps.

Prestige and Legitimacy is important as well.
One way to take control of the empire is to break austria in a war to lower their prestige.
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>>166712914
type in "goods" to console plus the amount you want
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>>166712914
Stay mad cheater
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>>166713167
>tfw pysically can't get the goods to build an irregular unit
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>>166713232
If you were in some shithole country in the 19th century that could be true!
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>>166713232
Get good
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>>166713302
>what is trade
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>>166713302
if you can't get a good like wool to build iregulars, what kind of country are you?
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>>166711292
>>166711316
Already closed the game but everything went fine, France had just lost Algeria to a and Savoie to S-P alone back when I declared war.
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Is memeofiron4 fixed yet?
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>>166713794
>a
meant anarcho-liberals
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>>166713358
Global trade is not a thing until 20th century. Poor shitty country with no ships had to rely on their own resource.
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>>166714285
see
>>166713482
it doesn't take much to build a irregular, I can even build that
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>>166714367
can't
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Is Italy strong in EU4? You get the Renaissance for free so you get a tech headstart, and Italy being split down the middle between two trade end nodes sounds like loads of money.
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>>166714464
The region is pretty good, especially easy to control the venice trade node.
Both the nodes are good since they're end nodes.
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>Find new trailer for Monks and Mystics
>Looked at how it allows you to join Satanic cults

Here we go again
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>>166714736
>>Looked at how it allows you to join Satanic cults
nioce
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>>166714847
I saw a ParadoxExtra video on it and well, they show you how you can join the society and all and maybe slowly convert people to become worshippers of Lucifer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvLv4lXlgtM

There seems to be a lack of random Satanic events currently but then this is a beta
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>>166714464
Italy is strong as fuck. It gets powerful core cost reduction, any nation with that is at least good, but also yeah it's super developed, defensible and you can dominate the second and third best trade nodes in the game while making it better than the english channel pretty easily if you're willing to get some iberian trade ports.
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>>166714652
>>166714953
Neat, might have to try a run where I form Italy then. Can I do so without pissing off the Papal State? Can I -vassalize- the Papal State?
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>>166715420
If you form Italy you can keep Rome even as a catholic without the triggered modifier penalty.
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It'd be really neat if you intermarried your European subjects with Uyghurs, you'd get Finns instead of your native ethnicity.
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Italy is the most aesthetic-looking country in the world

There is no question
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>>166716285
Even through a map I can sense the unemployment and bad economy though. The UK with Ireland is a truly asethetic country.
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>>166716285
That's not the Austrian Empire + Bosnia
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>>166716392
Looks like a fucking bag of spanners mate, don't reply
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>>166716392
This but with Lombardia. Otherwise it's trash.
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Mod to disable Jacobins when? Literally any other rebel type is acceptable, but not the fucking Jacobins.
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>>166715420
>>166715618
Can I form Italy -as- the Papal State?
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>>166716924
No. HRE and Papal State are specifically forbidden from doing so.
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Been comparing general combat worth of a few countries with different religions.
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Lewdmodlad, are you around?
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>play ck2
>check amount of troops a country has before invading
>1k troops
>easy
>begin invading
>suddenly has 5k troops
what the fuck
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>>166717943
It's a tribe, isn't it? Never invade a tribal ruler with high prestige and piety unless you outnumber them to a comical degree. They can spend prestige and piety as a resource to call up special event troops while at war.
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>>166718036
Shit, didn't know that. Thanks
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>>166718143
Keep an eye on the tribal chief, usually when one dies their heir tends to have piss poor prestige/piety. Better yet, they might be a child in regency. That's a good time to attack. Bonus points for Gavelkind (or Elective Gavelkind) often splitting their realm on succession.
You might try assassinating the chief, though you might not find many co-conspirators.
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>tfw I can walk around and completely annihilate every single army in this game because I bought the Tengri holy order (5k horses) and a merc for some 17 gold upkeep (4k horses)

No vassal bothers revolting due to my army size, no one declares wars and I can declare infinite wars to everyone around me. And due to how overpowered cavalry is, I can fight armies two times my size. Bravo Johan
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>enforce religion on march
>0% liberty desire
>load the game next day
>100% liberty desire
>enforced religionx3

what the fuck Johan, fix your cashcow
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Is Crisis of the Confederation or After the End any good? Thinkgen of playing either since I want an alternate ebin set-up and I've seen Europe and Westeros too many times.
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>>166718510
Nice concept but garbage
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>>166718667
Which of either? And why is it bad?
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What kind of King who converted to Cathar?
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Anyone had any luck modding the portraits in the Dark World Remedy pack?
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/vg/ I need your help. My favorite game is Victoria 2, EU4 is second, CK2 is cool but never got too far in it because it feels like a more in depth EU4. Stellaris is my favorite 4x. The only issue is, I always lose interest/challenge in the end game. I've played MEIOU and Taxes, Stellaris rebalance mods,etc, but I can't seem to scratch that itch that I need scratched right now, with a game that progressively gets harder as you get more powerful, but still lets you have that sense that you're getting more powerful. Anyone have any mod or other game suggestions for me? Help me /vg/, you're my only hope.
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>>166717704
Land Leader Fire has a large impact late game so Rajput gets a high grade.
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What is the best unit division in hoi4? How to build a good space Marine division?
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Nice infopics shitters
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>>166717704
>>166721034
autism
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>>166722804
ok
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>>166717704
>>166721034
nice keep posting
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What's the best way to become shiite as country that doesn't really start shia? (eg Morocco, Ottomans, Serbia, Scotland, Aztecs)
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>>166723326
Timurid probably.

Why do you want to be shia and not start as shia?
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>>166723326
Muscovy
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is stellaris grand strategy yet?
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>>166723413
They're the superior denomination of islam :^)
+5% morale

>>166723413
>>166723507
Not the best country to do it with, the best way. I don't really know how to go about this, mainly used to the christian conversions.
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>>166723531
yes, so is Cities:Skylines and Sengoku Rance
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>>166723541
Ah.
Yeah Shia is better, I guess I just don't see why you wouldn't want to start as Taberastan, Gujarat or QQ or whatever.

I think you want Shiite zealots and accept their demands. I think a majority of your provinces may need to be shia for you to be able to do that.

Maybe you could declear war on a shia and then you accept their demand of force religion, if you're sunni/ibadi.
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>want to play liquoria as new zealand
>produces nothing but cattle and sheep
just like real life :^(
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>>166723652
>Why not start as QQ
Not playing a horde surrounded by people that dislike them. Hordes in generally are not really my thing anymore.
>Taberestan
Oh boy, 29 development surrounded by two massive hordes.
>Gujarat
POO IN LOO
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>want to play vicky as jamaica
>get hundreds of immigrants a month
>primary culture is afro-carribean so thousands of Brits and Irish get BLACKED and assimilate
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>>166723875
just like in real life :^)
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>>166698425
>nobody noticed or cared enough to point out that Sengoku Rance and Long Live the Queen are now in the infopic
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>>166723713
>Sweden is a country in northern europe. They're known for their high literacy. However, Sweden is also known for their excellent liquor factories.

>Great Britain hail from Beginners Island, home of the evils of colonialism. Though natives of an island kingdom, not all british provinces are for building ships, and some are actually extremely good for liquor factories.

>Even though turks from most stuff are usually evil, turks in paradox games are not always. They hail from anatolia and and have a good base for liquor factories.


Too lazy to complete the meme
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>>166723968
>he can remember the last time he even opened the infopic
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>>166723729
>Not playing a horde surrounded by people that dislike them. Hordes in generally are not really my thing anymore.
Reform your government, form persia.

>Oh boy, 29 development surrounded by two massive hordes.
They'll collapse. Then form persia

>POO IN LOO
great trade ideas
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>>166723968
>Somebody actually used my image

holy shit OP i love you, even I didn't notice, laughing my ass off now
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>>166724035
I am the infopic.
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>>166723968
Some did actually

I glanced over the op after seeing people comment on the op thumbnail and didn't notice it
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>>166724076
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Tips and tricks for playing as the USA in Vicky II?
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really make u think
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>>166724671
White and Based.
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H E L P
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So I'm going to play as Russia in Victoria 2, and I want to become the Soviet Union.

How do I make sure my population becomes as communist as possible, and actually cause the revolution to happen?
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>>166725097
Pick trade unions reforms, raise consciousness and militancy. Once you can pick a social reform, pick ones that your pops don't want
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>>166724520
no fuck you
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>>166725143
OK, but how do I influence them to become communist? I don't want to become the SU and then have to deal with reactionary rebels every 3 months.
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>>166725215
There's a national focus
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Cav ranked by their Offensive Shock and Offensive Morale in different tech groups and tech levels.

Wiki had a ranking based on just all pips, but fire pips don't do much for cav so I didn't really like it.

I should give fire pips some worth in the future though and take them into account as well, even if they're 0.1*offensive shock pips
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>>166721645
>light division
infantry with artillery
4km/h (1x)
this is your frontline defensive unit
>medium division
light tank 1936 + motorized
12 km/h (3x)
this is your cavalry/ tank unit against poor nations with only infantry/low intensity areas
>heavy forces
medium tank 1939 + mechanized 1940
8 km/h (2x)
this is your tank. Send it at the top of your offensives

>upgraded heavy
medium tank 1943/MBT 1945 + mechanized 1942
10 km/h (2.5x)

you could also upgrade the trucks in motorized batallions with mechanized 1944 if you got the extra dosh, but at that point, you may want to stop using medium forces alltogether

use them in big units of the same type (that's why the coordinated speeds), draw line, win

>how to proportionate mot. infantry and tanks
depending on your cunt's industry humpf. Tanks are way more expensive than infantry carriers and trucks

do not use cavalry unless you are really poor or want to meme
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Why are tariffs so based bros?
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>>166725780
t. rump
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Man that felt good
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Any country anyone would like to see added?
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>>166705460
>Volksstaat doesn't have Wisconsin, one of the most heavily German states in the union
shit desu desu
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>>166725660
Based
Not that guy, but thanks anon
Building on the ratio of tanks and motorised/mechanised in a division:
tanks give breakthrough(BTFO in attack), infantry give hp(staying power). You need both really, so ideally you would want to go 1 for 1(remember to try and get 20/30/40 combat width if possible aswell).
However, if you are a low industry nation it can be alot more beneficial to have a higher mot/mech ration so you can pump out more units
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>>166725660
I heard I should aim for a combat width of 44? 10 Marines 2 mountaineers 6 artillery and 2 heavy tank destroyers
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>/gsg/ was a fast general
>less vicky posted over the past few months
>eu4 shitters and hoi4 monkeys everywhere
>/gsg/ is now a slow general
really makes me think
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>>166727061
ded games
ded thred
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>>166727061
everyones drunk lad
after demanding 100 units of liquor a day since 2007 our bladders are dying
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>>166727061
sometimes it's pretty fast, it really depends on the day and time
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>>166707075
Anyone?
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>>166727427
play eu4
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are traps even in dark world? i thought you could enslave men and feminize them

was i wrong?
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Not sure if there are any other countries that are especially interesting in comparing.

Could do another table at mil tech 10, and one at mil tech 18.
Or explore different compositions and units from different tech groups, but it's kinda tedious.
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>>166727454
No.
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>>166725097
Should I?
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As what nation and in what game can I make a fully autarkic country? Ie, no imports at all?
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>>166727061
Someone do a Sengoku Rance AAR. Be the saviour /gsg/ needs.
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ay mates its your lad wilem here with a quick question
how to go nat-pop in kaiserreich 1.8?
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>>166728465
Autarky and closed economy aren't mutually inclusive.
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>>166728465
either russia or china
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>>166728582
THIS
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Why does producing liquor feel so good?
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>>166728615
as russia, ooops mustvee forget that when i wrote ;)))))))))
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>>166727061
>these two things happened at relatively close periods of time
>that means they're all part of a global conspiracy to bring my favourite game down from /gsg/

Have you ever entertained the thought that maybe people just got bored of Liquoria?
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>>166728712
Have Kornilov take over, choose Savinkov as the head of government, and wait for Kornilov to die.
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>>166728662
>grand strategy

GSG CONFIRMED

somebody edit liquor memes into rance, i'm too weak to do it myself, i'm becoming old, someone take up the mantle
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>>166728778
thanks laddo
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I had a dream that I left my game of Victoria running all night long and somehow China (as Heavenly Kingdom) and Transcaucasia had managed to occupy all of Russia when I woke up.
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>>166728648
Not UK and USA? I figure the British Empire must have plenty of resources to use and the USA once it gets its immigrants.

>>166728617
I'm aware, but I needed a pic or I wouldn't have gotten any (You)s, especially not at this time of day.
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>>166728793
>he still thinks liquormemes are funny

how to spot cobra 101
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>>166729196
come up with new memes or shut up
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>>166729196
smart people like dumb memes

this is fact
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>EU4
>1600
>Ottomans have a standing army of 250K

Bloody hell
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>>166714285
>Global trade is not a thing until 20th century
>an artisan in America is able to trade with an African farmer in 1836
ah yes the massively complex and historically accurate victoria 2
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>>166731378
>an artisan in America is able to trade with an African farmer in 1836
Like they did since the 1500's when european-made guns ended in african hands in exchange for slaves?
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What's the best strategy to use as Bavaria? I can get to major power really quickly, but it's hard to win the sphere battles against Prussia and Austria.
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>>166731740
Try allying france or russia and fuck them up
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>>166731914
Should I try to annex any of my neighbors?

Should I go after Wuttermburg or Baden for faster South German Confederation? Or would taking one of my North German neighbors fuck things up for Prussia and prevent them from forming the North German Confederation?
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>>166733054
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>tfw savescumming on ruler traits and military and spy advisors even in ironmeme.
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>>166728465
China if you conquer some oil and rubber provinces.
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are we being raided
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>>166735091
always
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>>166735184
are you a raider
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>>166724001
I'm reading this image while falling asleep is it like a joke that the word stealth archer keeps showing up or am I crazy
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Thoughts?
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>>166735859
AYO HOL UP
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>>166735794
Yeah.
Stealth archery was overpowered regardless of which race you were in skyrim.

While their intention may have been more that bretons and high elves were good mages, orcs and nords were good fighters, it instead turned out that everyone were great stealth archers because stealthy archery was just superior to everything else.
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>>166735859
w e
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>>166728368
>King
>The Russian Empire
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>Blobbomans to get dar-al-islam
>Albania manages to take a province from venice
Is this where I foster and nurture a greater Albania, despite their religion? Is there a CB that allows me to force convert christians to islam?
>>
yeehaw
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>>166736154
vassalize them, then force convert and release them
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>HPM makes it impossible to justify war with Switzerland
Shitty meme.
>>
hello I'm Russian
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>>166736851
>Violating the neutrality of well-regarded mountainous state of banking Jews should be easy
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Huh
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>>166737148
It shouldn't be easy, but it shouldn't be impossible.
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>>166709861
Your always being ripped apart by Russia/Britan
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>>166737283
It's not impossible though, you have a decision to violate swiss neutrality
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>>166709861
That's why you blay as the Bukkhara instead
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How do i blob as poland in ck2?

>inb4 this gets no replies but a liquorposter gets 5
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yeehaw
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>>166738129
howdy
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How is my europe looking?
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>>166723968
Sengoku Rance always was.
LLTQ is based
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>>166707052
>>166706813
>>166706258
>>166705775
Isn't it in the ledger?
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What's the minmaxing for Andine Federation? Keep Jujuy? Pastazza?
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>>166739080
>70.7%
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Flagfriend, you around?
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>>166704914
Why is Norway red instead of grey/silver?
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>>166728582
>>166728662
>>166728793
>not playing Kichikuou Rance instead.

Conquering a continent is much better than conquering a small nation
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>>166739914
Maginot Line is historically accurate as well
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>>166735859
Goals?
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>>166705749
Infante Carlos was the RIGHTFUL heir to the Spanish throne, and wanted to defend Spain from anti-Catholics and foreign puppetmasters
>>
How do I modify militancy and consciousness to be permanently 0? Is there some way to code it as an event?
>>
really makes me think
>>
Can someone give me the short of how Spain went from the wealthiest most powerful nation in Europe and arguably the world for awile to a 3rd rate nation that ended up losing to fuckin 19th century america. Was it the incest?
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>>166740564
>anti-Catholics
So you're saying Isabella II was based and protestant?
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>>166740780
no, it was the british
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>>166740741
For what fucking purpose?
And yes, you can. You could just make the trigger AI = NO and Consciousness = 1 or 0.1 or however often you want it to fire, mtth very low, and have the effect be reduced consciousness and militancy
>>
Why is laisez faire so fucking shitty and always garunteed to wreck your country?
>government becomes liberal
>economic policy changes
>can no longer State Capitalism or Interventionism because we're Laisez Meme now
>no more factory subsidies
>government starts losing money as all the factories close down
>lose Great Power status because no factories
Fucking liberals I swear
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>>166740780
You never go full catholic
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>>166740780
no, it was the inflation
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>>166740941
>use tax money for corporate welfare on shitty unsustainable, unprofitable factories
>woah why is my economy collapsing when I stop giving failed business government money
get good
That said the capitalist factory AI IS retarded, but still.
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Vassalized Lubeck, dodged coalitions again by vassalizing instead of annexing. However, both of my vassals are now disloyal. I suppose as I expand they will be more loyal again?
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>>166740914
>wanting Jacobins
>not wanting a conservative paradise

But seriously why the fuck are Jacobins rebelling for a proportional democracy in the FUCKING 19TH CENTURY

Literally UK and US kept the FPTP system and no one staged a massive armed rebellion over it. Jacobins rebel for dumb and unrealistic reasons.

There's also the problem of Socialists getting elected in as soon as they spawn. Labour didn't get into government until the 1920's.
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>>166741142
>shitty unsustainable, unprofitable factories
>all my factories are either breaking even or turning major profits while providing vital resources to the nation
>as soon as the liberals take power they allow all the factories to shut down and get destroyed
>nation no longer making money
>nation no longer relevant in the world

Rly made me think.
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>>166739914
>>166740056
I was literally too dumb to understand the combat desu.
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>These fucking sieges in MEIOU

Jesus christ I now sieges were long in real life but who the hell wants to sit and stare at the screen for 5 year sieges
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>>166741416
>not wanting a conservative paradise
You can do that legit if you get good desu
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>>166741831
They're the same in vanilla though.
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>>166741907
I can kill Jacobins fine though.

t. 7% soldier pop pro

Its just that it gets annoying bushwacking Jacobins, they aren't even a threat. They're just annoying and rebel for stupid reasons.
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>>166742021
Just make a modifier that reduces militancy and consciousness, should be less annoying and resource-intensive than having an event pop up all the time.
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>>166741437
>two dumb to understand a 1996 porn strategy game
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>>166742441
Ironically rebel spam makes more sense in NWO, where Simsulla's disabled them even though people throw a shitstorm over everything in the modern age and the Cold War especially.
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>>166742756
Rebel spam doesn't make more sense in NWO, do you see millions of people rising in armed protest across Europe?
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R8
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>>166742981
Apart from Xhosandiums, Eritriums and Biafriums this is aesthetic.
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>>166740890
She was a freemason.
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>>166742981
"Germany" got stomped every 10 years by France, yet is still nr.2 GP
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>>166742981
not sure about anatolian and balkan ethiopia.
Maybe crete+cyprus
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>>166743263
He's Greece
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>>166742894
Doesn't make sense for Victorian period either. It only happened in specific situations. I don't remember the Jacobin rebellion of Great Britain over demanding proportional representation.
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>>166742981
>Biafriums
The only part of Biafra he has is Warri
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>>166743457
Biafriums is the only part of Nigeria he's missing.
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>>166743143
proof
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>>166743457
Meant for >>166743139
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>>166743713
Meant for >>166744035
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has HPM been updated since the latest patch or do i still have to keep it on 3.03? have not played since last year.
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how would you rate these games on a 1-10 level for stress? trying to find games that keep me entertained but dont cause much stress so i reduce episodes of psychosis(schizophrenic)
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>>166743143
Women literally can't be masons.
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>>166744095
It's compatible with 3.04, if that's what you're asking
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>>166743139
I'd fix that if I wasn't bored of the game already, cosntantly fighting britbongs is very tiresome, commies in ethiopia, arab nationalists as well.
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>>166744148
These games make even non-psychotic people vulnerable to delusions of grandeur, vast jewish conspiracies, etc.
Just stay away m8
For your own good.
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>>166744168
ah, alright cool thanks.
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>>166744148
0
Cleansing the natives as Spain or building railroads from Cape to Cairo is a zen experience
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>>166744148
These games are stressful
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>>166742525
>too dumb to spell too correctly
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>>166744854
Christ all fucking mighty.
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>Meiou and Taxes 2.0 still isn't out yet
shaking my head familia
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>>166745046
>bloat and no genocide mod
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So, what mod should I use for modern day/Cold war Vicky? Regular NWO, or the CWE version that has been posted here?
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>>166745113
I love bloat. Vanilla EU4 is so barebones it hurts my very being.
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>>166745184
>CWE version that has been posted here
???
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>>166745002
Please, I know you're upset, but don't use the God's name in vain.
Repent for your sins now, like a good boy!
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>>166745216
The game runs slow for the devs, lad. The devs are also cucks who removed attacking natives because they deemed it racist, not even meming.
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>>166745370
To obvious.
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>>166745238
This:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/victoria-2-cold-war-enhancement-mod
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>>166745534
History and strategy are learned from mistakes.
I see that you still haven't learned from your own...
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>>166745402
>Implying genocide somehow makes the game more enjoyable
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>>166745861
>let's take out accuracy because it triggers us
What made you think you were welcome here?
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>>166746352
Everyone is on 4chan these days, get with the times grampa
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>thinking genocide is okay

that is highly inappropriate

#holocaustrememberanceday
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The Holocaust never happened but I wish it did.
>>
Anyone else hate the lampshade and soap propaganda bit about the holocaust? It was used during WWI but with the French instead of Jews and it wasn't true then either. People fall for the dumbest shit I swear. The Useful Idiots need purging
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>>166746684
This.

>>166746764
Unironically this , just remove the "again"!
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Anyone got a link to the Norsefire submod for NWO?
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Anyone got a link to the steampunk zombie mod?
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anyone got a link to the steambonk romans mod?
>>
anyone got a ling to the beam-up pony mod?
>>
Anyone got a link to some overplayed repetative memes?
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anyone got a liquor
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Anyone got a link to Geheimnisnacht mod for 2.6.1?
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Anyone
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got
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memes?
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stupid poster just giving out (You)s like they're fucking free
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With 9 billion in the treasury, Ohio's government is at a crossroads as what to spend their initial account on. The state currently produces no oil, with her population using half a million bbl a day. While there are un-tapped reserves in northwestern Ohio and along the Ohio river bordering W. Virginia, others within the governemnt want to spend the money on a developing rich coal deposits in the North eastern part of the state. Still others wish to invest the money in more military facilities, as Ohio infrastructure can only train 2 regiments at a time. Scientist wish for an investment in laboratories, and someone coughed and reminds everyone how the State has 286 billion in debt.

What do /gsg/?
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>>166748624
in what game
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>>166748624
What games is this?
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>>166748624
Coal development of fuckin couse.
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>>166748856
>2017
>coal
uhhhh.... go back to bed granpa
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>>166749004
>america can't dig a single piece of coal or the planet will literally burst into flames
>china has been smoking like a non-ANC sympathiser in '90s south africa and the world is fine
Really makes you think.
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>>166749004
>granpa

Isn't it grandpa
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>>166749295
It's Grandfather if you're not working class scum.
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>>166748624
Build up a military and invade Michigan.
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>>166749295
>grandpa
Isn't it großpa
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>>166749858
No, that's gangnam style.
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What would this country be called, /gsg/?
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>>166749945
haha funny meme xDD
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>Star EU4 game Byzantium
>France day 2 allies with the ottomans
What the fuckin fuck is this BS. I went through with the game to see if they would help AND THEY SAILED 40K TROOPS OVER TO ANATOLIA TO FIGHT ME DESPITE BEING AT WAR WITH CASTILE. Great game paradox
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>>166750108
styxexenhammer666 land
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>>166748624
It was decided that the oil reserves will be tapped into, and the largest deposit only will be developed.
The transparent objects are oil wells and platforms, and the one with 4 around it is the coal deposit, coal being highlighted in red
Mean while, the state approved the production and training of two M113A1 APC units in camp perry, for the state's defense. Researchers in the capital have also begun researching better ways to conserve energy, particularly timber and oil.
>>166748787
>>166748807
Supreme ruelr 2020. Paradox game, so no >>/civ4xg/
>>166748856
coal sells at 114 to oil's 210 as of right now
Self-sufficiency is the future
>>166749528
That comes later
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>>166750108
The Memestaat of Normie.
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>>166750358
Can you get your governer elected president?
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>>166750108
Reddit Republic
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>>166741831
I'd recommend stop playing MEIOU right now...

I played it for a good two days and it is pure pain... The 'communication' system makes it near impossible to gain anything from gained provinces as they will always gain autonomy. Corruption will grow on a near linear basis forcing you to throw money into it. I've read that colonization takes fuckass long. I wanted to love it but it is pure pain of never being able to utilize gained provinces and no matter how big your country is no matter how long you wait you will still have the same amount of power as the original starting country you were.
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>>166750785
sounds like you need to git gud
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>>166748624
Ohioan here. We have an assload of shale you can frack for oil and gas if the game allows it
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it keeps getting worse
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>>166750358
>Paradox game, so no >>/civ4xg/

It's not Paradox game, it's only published by them. It's still grand strat so it's allowed here.
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Not going to lie, this is pretty damn boring.

>>166740318
Original goal was to just overindustrialize and not blob anywhere other than the islands nearby, but I'm not sure if I'll keep playing this. Even with the massive prestige spam I wasn't able to become a GP and do massive foreign investiments to compensate my lack of pops (and me keeping Zanzibar, which has 10% of my population, as a colony with the hopes of getting the Men for the Colonies event).
Maybe I'll just build a huge navy and see if that can get me past Italy (which doesn't have neither Two Sicilies nor Rome yet).
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>>166752542
>explosives profitable but electric gears are not
NANI?

also
>encourage immigrants focus
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>>166752634
encourage emigration. i'm trying to get people to leave the state lad. it's not like i can encourage craftsmen or clerks
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>>166752762
why don't you reduce the factory build/upgrade time?
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>>166752542
Why isn't liquor the most profitable?
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>>166752762
but those unemployment craftsmen are already leaving since they're unemployed
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>>166752542
Post map. Also go interventionist and keep upgrading the factories constantly to avoid that as China.
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>>166752542
Is luxury furniture the next steamcordplaza meme?
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>>166752962
vietnam doesn't have an interventionist faction
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>>166752906
It will require him to restart the game. Setting the build and upgrade times to 1 day is wise though as that represents the dinamism of industrial growth and prevents situations like this one >>166752542 from happening.
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>>166752542
Why do you have so many craftsmen
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>>166753304
>It will require him to restart the game
That terrible 1 minute of inconvenience.
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>>166750358
With the Northwestern oil fields developed, as well as one near the banks of the Ohio River (Two more on the actual river are still being built, about a month more to completion) Ohio is now self-sufficient in regards to oil. In fact, Ohio now exports nearly 20 million in oil a day, with out production, for comparison, being just above Oman's. Another coal deposit is ordered to be developed to try to kill that deficit. Sadly, no metal ore deposits are in our borders, but some lie in Penn. and W. Virginia.....
>>166750610
There's a scenario where the states vote for a new leader among themselves after 4 years, but not this. This is just the Shattered world campaign.
>>166752603
desu, I really enjoy this game. If they fixed some bugs, fleshed it out more, made the game run faster than a day a minute, i'd say it could rival Victoria 2
>>166752542
post pops for that state.
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>>166753126
Not that one. The one showing the UI, lad.
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>>166753316
i have 99% literacy because i tried really hard for social reforms and techs but other than that i don't know. i have 31% craftsman and 5% clerks even though i haven't been encouraging craftsmen

>>166753410
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>>166753410
>There's a scenario where the states vote for a new leader among themselves after 4 years,
Huh, what happens if someone wins 3 million more votes that the person the states elected? Surely democracy trumps what some rich old white guys want?
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>>166752542
How did you end up with so many craftsmen? Tell me your secrets.
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>>166753403
It means restarting the campaign as a whole as his save files will not open. I've made that modification in all of my major modse like HPM and NWO, I know what I'm saying.
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>>166753603
>i have 31% craftsman and 5% clerks even though i haven't been encouraging craftsmen
what the fuck
This honestly makes me want to stop playing the game entirely, I've never been able to get any close to this in years playing this game.
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>>166753659
What? Just don't do it while factories are upgrading and you should be good.
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>>166753730
it's 34% in my second largest state
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>>166752906
>>166753403
>>166753731
>cheating
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>>166749189
I think he means you should be focusing on other shit
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>>166753731
You should be, but not the rest of the other countries around the world.
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>>166753605
>democracy
The US literally isn't a democracy.
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>Alright I guess I'll give MEIOU another try since /gsg/ seems to like it

>Within the first 15 years of the game the Ming emperor converts to mahayana buddhism
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>>166753916
>Republics aren't democr-
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louis-napoleon will have no nonsense from the industrial classes

prepare for glorious commune soon
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all states
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>>166754027
Greece is not a democracy either, it's a republic. What's your point?
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>>166754063
How did you take the Channel Islands?
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Am I doing good /gsg/?
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>>166754127
Read the name in Greek, retard
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>>166754180
ahhh relief
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>>166753603
>that year
>that industry
>those other scores
>without blobbing

I AM CALLING BULLSHIT
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>>166754204
I repeat myself - what's your point? Democracy has a definition. "Representative democracy" makes as much sense as "constitutional absolute monarchy".
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>>166754180
>Slovakia
A+++
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Look at this smug British ship, hauling barrels of Rum and other such niceties. Don't you just want to be on it?
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>>166754178
cut britain down to size and there was a decision for it
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>>166754282
i'm still an absolute monarchy without free press too
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>>166754462
you are cheating somehow
I don't believe this
>>
>>166754317
Democracy (Greek: δημοkρατία, Dēmokratía literally "rule of the commoners"), in modern usage, is a system of government in which the citizens exercise power directly or elect representatives from among themselves to form a governing body, such as a parliament.
>>
>>166754462
no fucking way this is legit
>>
>>166753410
>desu, I really enjoy this game. If they fixed some bugs, fleshed it out more, made the game run faster than a day a minute, i'd say it could rival Victoria 2

didn't they release supreme ruler ultimate? I haven't played it but it's supposed to be improved version of older supreme ruler titles
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>>166754462
Post ealier pics of your game
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>>166754556
The latter is a republic, not a democracy.
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>>166754517
i've literally been sitting here watching this in confusion for the past few hours
i don't know what's going on either. i just wanted to try a game where i got really high literacy as a country with shit literacy
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>>166754180
Rate my African "scramble" by the way.
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>>166754747
conquer china
if hpm doesn't let you take states right now then conquer it when they westernize
do it
you have to
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>>166754742
>The latter is a republic
Correct.
> not a democracy.
Wrong.
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>>166754930
>ahistorical blobbing
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>>166754731
i don't have any, and i autosave every month, so i don't have any old saves

>>166754995
okay
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>>166753410
In other news, the new 1st Ohio Army has been officially formed. When the Collapse happened, militaries world wide disbanded, with militias forming nations defense while armies rebuild. While the new Army wouldn't be able to take on a whole state and their garrisons, Ohio's generals are confident they will be able to repeal enemy attacks, retake lost territory, and even counter attack, taking rural areas and maybe the occasional light defended complex, but not well defended towns.
While our neighbors show no hostilities to us, the world is erupting in chaos. The whole world over have restarted conflicts,and new-formed units are almost immediately thrown into combat. As time continues and armies grow, we can expect conflict to only increase in size. North Korea, currently at war with it's neighbors S. Korea, W. Siberia and Manchuria, has already taken nearly 50,000 casualties.
Some with Ohio's high command, particularly more.....enthusiastic former US military men from Wright Pat., are encouraging Ohio takes a leading role in US reunion. While some states; California, Texas, Illinois, and a few others have gone as far as declaring war on neighboring states, Ohio's neighbors are relatively peaceful, and advancing on them would severally hurt our relations with the other states and the international community. Other are calling for the force to remain a peaceful defense force, and some wish for further build up until attacks are made.

What do /gsg/?

>>166753603
>Craftsmen nearly outnumber farmers
My dick
>>166753605
Good meme, it's a vote by the state (and territories) leaders voting among themselves for which state to led a unifying project.
>>166754559
They did, I tried it, shit in my opinion.
Maybe I should re download and give it a try. Maybe my comfort with 2020 influenced my opinion on Ultimate
>>166754930
Vanilla/10
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>>166754930
Delete your computer.
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>>166754995
kys
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>>166755073
>historical blobbing
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I feel humbled by this vietnam thing if it really is legit

anyway I'm going to do this, I've tried on multiple occasions to kill the turks and they always just keep bounding back.
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>>166755075
But how do you have that prestige as well?
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>>166755220
France proper is acceptable and the rest are just puppets nerd deal with it
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AAAAA
NO WAIT THAT'S WAY TOO BIG OF AN ALBANIUMS
>>
If I add provinces manually to the HRE is the 'Rein in northern italy'decision diabled, and thus by adding in the Ventian provinces to the empire prematurely have I forced the italian nations to break fre.

also how do I get the papal lands without being excommunicated, threaten war a shit tonne from good relations?
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>>166755257
technology
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>>166755249
>spoiler
Same here, I'm 20 years ahead of him and a thousand miles behind in everything. I know I should expect to be relatively behind him considering Vietnam starting with over 3 times my pops, having an unified culture and balanced pops (Madagascar starts with provinces going from +1.5% intellectuals to less than .5% in the same state, it's literally impossible to make certain provinces fully literate) but this is humiliating.
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>>166716285
>No Savoy
>No Nice
>Has Sardinia but not Corsica or neither of the two
>No Malta
>Tyrol
>Shitty border with Slovenia
As is there is at least one country that is more aesthetic
>>
I'm bored. What are some unique countries to play in EU4?
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>>166755727
i've never had a game go this well desu
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>>166755907
France or Brandenburg.
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>>166754930
The eternal... slav?
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>>166755450
HELP
E
L
P
maymay
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I want the revolution to begin asap
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>>166756248
>5/6
>9
>70/239
see >>166755118
>>
just a reminder that tarrifs a shit
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>>166756502
*angry trump noises*
>>
>>166756502
Not an argument.
>>
>>166755956
Oh, please.
>>
>>166756502
They are actually useful as a tool of political pressure and as means of engaging trade wars with non-capitalist economies like China and the former USSR.
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>>166756428
>5/6
Yeah, I just finished the research that gave me an additional NF, dumbo.

>9
What should I be using it for?

>70/230
I'm already #1 military in the world, and I'm playing an isolationist game.
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>>166756810
>Isolationist
>Directly controls most of Africa
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>>166756248
>>166754930
>vanilla
>26 industrial score with state capitalism
>1 mil woth 70 brigades only
>that much blob into Africa before the Berlin congress even took place
>reactionary party
>le liquor factories meme
>vanilla
End yourself.
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>>166756731
>non-capitalist economies like China
The "Capitalist" US literally has more protectionist measures and more of its national GDP than "Communist" China.
>>
>>166756979
Yes? I stay out of European affairs and just tried to focus my efforts on grabbing Africa. My only involvement with them is over colonies.

I'll try and spell it out for you. I'm playing a so-called "alt-hist" game, where I play a country differently from what historically happened.
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>>166757218
>vanilla
I prefer it

>26 industrial score with state capitalism
Literally just changed to it before building all those factories. I was on interventionist, and had shitty industrial tech since I beelined naval stuff for colonial power.

>1 mil woth 70 brigades only
So?

>that much blob into Africa before the Berlin congress even took place
Alt-hist

>reactionary party
Only Russian party with state capitalism early in the game.

If you're gonna shit on me, at least try and be correct.
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>>166755727
It's far worse than that, actually.
>>166755929
Post rural (un)employment
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what are some pros and cons of tariffs
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>>166757243
That meme was only funny when it was Kevin. I swear, you fuckers are so literally autistic that you can't comprehend that jokes only stay funny for so long.
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>>166757481
>Post rural (un)employment
how
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>>166755094
>Ohio produces more than Iraq
Nice

/gsg/, wuestion. Should I invade
Michigan, Indiana, W. Virginia, Kentucky, or Penn.
and when should I invade? I have 2 more units about a month out on the production line, and then Abrams 85 days after them
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>>166757556
I honestly don't even know where the Really Makes Me Think meme came from
Was under the impression it came from /pol/ or something
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>I prefer it
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>>166757243
Sorry, I meant non-market economies. Even the WTO recognizes China as a non-market economy because they keep manipulating economies and currencies worldwide without actual market-oriented decisions, being arbitrary as fuck with their state-owned companies.
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>>166757620
invade western penn up to the ohio river
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>>166757761
I was just pointing out how stupid it sounds to call China non-capitalist when the US owns more of its GDP and has more restrictions on international trade.
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>>166757452
>I prefer it
Stopped reading there. Go back to the Paracucks forums.
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>1468
>Emperor of the
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
>wants an alliance
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>>166757452
>If you're gonna shit on me, at least try and be correct.
Stopped reading there.
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>>166757218
>reactionary party
>not reactionary
Pleb detected.
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>>166757950
What an honor, i hope you accepted
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>>166757950
>[Current Year]
>Forgetting Picture

>>166758176
I did
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>>166757975
>e.
Stopped reading there.
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stopped reading there
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What are my chances of getting the A Sun God achievement?
Should I just give up?
I just lost 2 wars against spain and portugal, they are ahead of me en military tech because I cant embrace the enstitutions, even before the wars I didn't have enough money. I'm only getting 27 per month now and paying it off wil take a long time.
Any tips?
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>>166758219
Incoming Steamgroup butthurt.
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stopped
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>>166758356
Are you implying it's a multiplayer game? Not how achievements are enabled. It's ironman singleplayer, where I want to get dar-al-islam as shiite ottomans
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*reddit around at the speed of sound*
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>>166758219
>playing as mudslimes
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>>166758352
realised i just misspelled institutions
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>>166757620
Rush Lansing, encircle and siege Detroit, or go slow and steady, minimizing my losses while rekting the Michiganers?
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>>166758352
>Cheevos
die
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>>166758798
>>Cheevos
>die
kek i don't understand what you mean, first time posting here desu
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>>166757243
>The "Capitalist" US literally has more protectionist measures and more of its national GDP than "Communist" China.
Can you give some examples of this? Because honestly I don't really believe you tbqh
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>>166758908
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>166758352
>Tyrone
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>>166758754
I think you should invade Indiana first desu, then push up into michigan
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>>166759036
Triggered.
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>>166759036
i don't understand reddit cunt, I never visit the autistic gaming boards but I spent a lot of time and after failing to conquer anatolia as byzantium i wanted to achieve something in this game for a time
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>>166758754
>Nguyen
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123 Shimazu
456 Date
789 Monks
0 Oda
Dubs Ashikaga
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>>166759229
Play the #1 memeist clan lad
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>>166758931
Corn
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>>166759293
And China massively subsidizes rice.
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>>166759415
Not the guy you're arguing with, it's just an example I thought of
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>>166758931
The national GDP part comes from some 2015 book I read but I don't even know how to look this statistic up online so yeah sorry
As far as protectionist measures, ten seconds on google
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-the-most-protectionist-nation-2015-9
You can use this one
http://www.globaltradealert.org/node/2257
To see how many have been issued by nation since '08.
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>more craftsmen than farmers
>more clerks than artisans
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>>166759843
Is playing Burma fun in HPM? I'm thinking of doing it. I want to create a Buddhist Empire
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What kind of meme is this the Ottomans allied not only with catholic France which theyve been allied to since day one but know theve allied with the only other real orthodox nation on earth besides me. Fuckin A what is this multiplayer?
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>>166759969
i don't know but i've never seen the AI civilize burma before the UK swallows them and their rgos are shit
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>>166759581
Now I don't know what half these things are supposed to even mean (Trade defese measure? Sub-national government measure? ) but when I think of protectionism I don't think of bailouts, that's just "le crony crapitalism." The way I see it if the US was actually protectionist it wouldn't be hemorraging so much money and through a trade deficit
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>15 years of war for a bunch of <5 developement provinces worth nothing
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>>166760232
>The way I see it if the US was actually protectionist it wouldn't be hemorraging so much money and through a trade deficit
There's not really much it can do to not have a trade deficit, it simply doesn't have any real exports compared to places like China or India.
Also even if we disregard bailouts entirely (and bailouts are at the very least not capitalist), the US still has the most there.
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>>166759974
something something believable worlds.
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>>166759843
>That religious graph
Did you convert to Catholicism? If so, how?
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>>166760232
>Sub-national government measure
It means New York passed laws as a state or city instead of having the fed pass a law for them.
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>>166760546
there are catholic pops in 1836
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>>166760480
The thing is "Number of protectionist measures" doesn't necessarily mean "Strength of protectionist measures," it just means that the US has a bloated AF bureaucracy.

And I don't know what "Europe" is supposed to mean on that graph. EU? I doubt it's EU+individual memberstate regulations.
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>>166760140
What about Tibet? It would be perfect but it has such a shitty starting position.
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>>166760140
>their rgos are shit
They got Opium boi
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>>166760796
It's the EU as a whole.

>doesn't necessarily mean strength of protectionist measures
Fair point but are you saying that the US has a more bloated and ineffectual bureacracy than China and Russia or something because I'm EH on that one.
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>>166760862
thailand would be good

>>166760934
shit for industry i mean
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>>166759843
I'm attempting your meme right now

what did you do, just hold out until universities?
then what? what were your research priorities after westernizing? what year did you westernize?
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>>166760950
>are you saying that the US has a more bloated and ineffectual bureacracy than China and Russia
Unironically yes. In China the government actually gets shit done, and they are doing very well for having such a bloated population they have to manage. Not having to deal with putting up pretenses of democracy really helps. Russia is just corrupt, which in practice just means that a lot of the "real" rules and dealings are done under the table. I don't know too much about the contemporary Russian political situation tbf but while in this sense of coruption you could say Russian bureaucracy is highly inneffective, I would still say they are able to get shit done better than in the US.
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>>166761067
bureaucrats then intellectuals
universities, then education, then whatever to westernize as fast as possible
get rid of slavery and get debtors prisons as fast as possible. then i tried to piss my pops off to get schools, child labor, and health care eventually

tech, i focused on research points, followed by social science, followed by industry stuff

if you've got 4% intellectuals, and all the reforms, and biologism, you can get over .2% increase in literacy per month

i literally just did a normal game except i focused on literacy, because that was the gimmick i was trying
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>>166761554
I haven't been in this conversation but what do you mean by "get shit done" in practice?
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>>166758754
Detroit has been surrounded, and with it at least 3 units of the Michigan army. What more, their troublesome Abrams unit is in the pocket, and will hopefully be destroyed due to lack of supply. (Wouldn't be a problem if I had my Abrams, but they are still a month out.) At least 2 million lie within the pocket, and hopefully, after their supplies run out, it'll be a good clean up
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>>166761586
>universities, then education
Have I been doing this backwards this whole time
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>>166761554
I guess so.
Also
>Navarro just called Citigroup and Goldman Sachs "Fake news"
I could even understand if he said he disagreed or that it was a necessary sacrifice or something, but flat out calling them without credibility and fake news is really kind of bullshit.
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>>166761725
universities gives more research points
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sim host you fuck
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>enlightenment spawns in fucking indonesia
At this point I think it's hardcoded to spawn outside of Europe. This is fucking ridiculous.
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>>166761682
Basically a situation where the government can most effectively work towards its goals (In China at least, that's to actually improve their country industrially, technologically, etc.) without being hamstringed by its internal politics. Like in the US where any time some kind of bill gets putforward that shit gets filibustered or rejected, to the point where since Obama basically everything has to be done through executive orders, or else it won't happen. Or the Sejm during the PLC.
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>>166762373
>Enlightenment
>When Embraced:
>Culture Conversion Cost -25%
What did Johan mean by this?
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>>166761692
Leave none alive
Shell it into dust
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>>166762373
What are the conditions for Enlightenment anyway?

>>166762386
PRCguy here - while you're right to an extent, here it's the problem of oftentimes regulations passed down simply cannot be implemented because of corruption, poor communication, bureacratic lockdown, or a combination. Brothels, for example, have been banned since forever, but I know at least three within the damn capital, and there's usually at least one in every (suburban / rural) town. The reason is because the local government tends to turn a blind eye, since the brothel will usually pay taxes like a normal business while pretending to be, say, a barber shop, and it does help public order so the sweaty miner guy has somewhere to vent instead of grabbing a random off the street.

>>166762575
Probably the concept of organized education or something
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does this game relate to the others or is it more like it's own thing?
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>>166762575

Id guess its the idea of places like France and Britain weakening regional cultures such as the Welsh, Scottish, and Breton.
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remember when everyone played victoria 2?
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>>166763160
I wager a good 85+% of this thread plays Victoria II, just not all the time.
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>>166763302
but no one mains victoria 2 anymore
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>>166763160
Ill play more vicky 2 when HPM updates his mod if that ever happens.
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>>166763487
1. Bullshit
2. Victoria II, believe it or not, can still get old, especially now that "Grandi" has disappeared. NWO is still a breath of fresh air but only for so long, so playing different games in waves makes sense for this thread.
3. Bullshit.
4. CK2 and EU4 have been posted regularly forever.
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MP when?
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>japan has lower tech than the congo
I just fucking give up with Paradox. It is actually quite depressing that they won't fix this because it would piss off their SJW fans. No, some fucking niggers weren't more advanced than Japan.
Shall I conquer them to bring civilisation there?
>>166762748
>Arrives after 1700 in a province in the same area as the capital of its owner, that has either a seat in Parliament, a University, or at least 20 development in Europe while owned by a monarch with at least 5 in all stats.
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>>166761692
The pocket has been captured and generals are now deciding to attack the capital directly, take Michigan's southern border territory, or take the northern territory.

In other news....
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>>166763657
What are some good alternative games to Victoria II? All I play is VIctoria II and Crusader Kings II.
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>>166763835
>Japan down there with Madagascar
>India that far ahead of China
>that Mali
YES
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>>166763970
CK2. EU4 with MEIOU or VeF for some people. EU3. Hearts of Iron if you're into that. Aurora if you're into spess. Rule the Waves and March of the Eagles.
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>>166759192
>failling to conquer anatolia as byzantium
wew lad. just watch arumba tutorial series of 150 episodes.
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>>166762748
>The reason is because the local government tends to turn a blind eye, since the brothel will usually pay taxes like a normal business while pretending to be, say, a barber shop, and it does help public order so the sweaty miner guy has somewhere to vent instead of grabbing a random off the street.
Yes so essentially, this kind of corruption basically means that "what the government actually does/wants to do" doesn't correspond with what official channels say. In this scenario, the government benefits a lot more from the status quo than it would if it either a) cracked down on every minor infraction and either fails miserable, or they succeed causing society to break down, or b) legalize brothels officially and then face enormous backlash for no practical benefit. Even if the people in the government actually would want to crack down, this inability to act in this particular instance actually improves the overall effectiveness in China's ability to enact it's bigger picture, long term goals.
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>>166764047
>March of the Eagles.
This one looks really cool. I like GSG that let me do something other than just war/conquest.
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Portugal's former colonies, Haiti, Peru and Louisiana just seceded.
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>>166764521
Yeah but you get the idea that they actually do want to stop prostitution, because strangely enough they're really dang moralizing about a few specific things, despite Chinese people in general being pure practical. I mean, they made porn illegal (to produce).
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>>166763835
>Literally the only way civilizational advancements came to non-whites in this time period was through being conquered by the white man
It's hilarious how even when leftists get what they want the logical end result is always something they would vehemently throw shitfits over if pointed out to them in simply terms.
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>>166764901
China and Japan were up to pace in some respects until the 1700s and only really fell behind during the 1500s. India too, to an extent.
Africa on the other hand simply never budged from 500AD tier.
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Should I pickup HoI4 to play kaiserreich or stick with HoI3
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>>166764810
It's probably a good thing for China they've got bigger fish to fry atm then. We will probably see the PRC start collapse once they have more or less sorted the bigger issues, since then they will have both the desire and the ability to truly crackdown on the petty bullshit they are against for moral/ideological reasons. Just like the West.

>>166764901
>Africa
>500AD tier.
Didn't know the kangdom of Mali ever built intricate aqueduct systems and marble statues
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>>166765415
Play Kaiserreich for DH, play HoI3 for WW2.
HoI4 is garbage.
>>
redpill me on andine federation, minmaxing it in hpm and which capital should i choose?
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Meant to quote @166765093, not @166764901 desu lads
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>>166765451
>bigger fish to fry
Well they're frying those fish pretty dang well right now.

>we will probably see the PRC start collapse
Oh goddamnit not again, this is like saying we'll see mass revolts across the US in '08.
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>>166765451
Nobody was building "intricate aqueduct systems" in 500 AD anymore.
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>>166765451
>intricate aqueduct systems and marble statues
Rome wasn't building that stuff by 300 AD for the most part let alone immediately after its collapse
Europe was just trying to use what it could salvage by 500 AD.
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>>166765606
I swear people have no idea how statesmanship works. Life isn't Victoria 2.
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>>166765641
>>166765746
Marble statues at least though? The Justinian era wasn't that shit-tier.
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>>166764901
>through being conquered by the white man
Lad, they spawned it themselves. Europe is LESS ADVANCED than Indonesia.
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>>166765606
>>166765801
No one smart would've thought about mass revolts in '08, because reactionary rebels are LARPer tier even in Vicky
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>>166765801
Explain to me what you meant by collapse if not by some form of civil war or something then
Fucking tired of people tell me collapse is right around the corner for the past decade, and, if the papers and histories are correct, for the past sixty years.
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>>166765761
It's time
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>>166765641
>>166765818
What is the Hagia Sophia
What is Byzantium libraries aiding the renaissance
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>>166765761
Watch out for a random 150 stack that obliterates you with superior morale -
>technology
Never mind
>>
is stellaris grand strategy yet?
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>>166763835
Maybe the new expansion will fix it.
Speaking of, when is the EUIV expac coming?
I know
>EUIV
But the new emperor of China HRE thing and all the changes to the east are pretty cool. And I like playing as Ming/Japan.
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>>166766576
>Maybe the new expansion will fix it.
Maybe is an extremely powerful word in Johan's arsenal
Guarenteed to garbage on release and rife with bugs and brokenness that may or may not be fixed with patches
More importantly though, is this the Divine Wind for EU4? Is this "it"?
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institutions weren't a bad idea, they're just implemented badly
prove me wrong
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Alright lads, tell me what I should take.
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>>166763913
Jesus Christ
So, took East Lansing, then attacked their capital, which had an artillery unit in it. It fired on the attacking troops in East Lansing the entire assault, civilians be damned.
Look at the population at the bottom of the screen. The city was at 118,000 before the attack
A Michigan artillery unit killed 60,000 Michiganders bombarding some 5,000 Ohioan troops.
10/10
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>>166766850
You're not wrong but how would they be implemented better? Maybe for starters we should obliterate the cap on monarch points or - get this - obliterate mana entirely.
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Any advice for reigning in Italy from Papal States as Austria?
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I'm fucking done, I hate these games.
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r8
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>>166765415
Based
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>>166767043
I plan just to take the eastern territories, apart from possible excommunication what else can come from attacking the Papal States when I'm Curia Controller
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>>166767161
How many countries are there in China rn ffs
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>>166767161
wat
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>>166765993
Bruh im not him i was agreeing with your point cool your engine there.
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>>166767041
>spread from trade company provinces is nerfed to almost 0
>no spread unless you actually share a border, no meme "dude ports lmao" spread except for colonial subjects
>can't get an institution unless you've embraced the previous one
t. institution pro
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>>166766892
hiroshima
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>>166766892
Start with the southern island and go north
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Can anyone here a new player with trade?

I'm aiming all steering at English Channel and I have a line of merchants all the way back to Krakow and one rogue guy steering from Champagne.

Should I move the guy from Champagne to one step past Krakow out in Russia or leave him where he is?
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>>166767326
Then how does Morocco, mamluks and ottomans get the renaissance
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>>166766838
Probably. I don't really see anything left for them to flesh out, other than maybe India/Middle eastern factions getting something more significant to do. But that is really all I can even think of.
>>166766892
Start with the Kyushu, Shikoku, and Hokkaido
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>>166767524
>having all those merchants
>wasting them on yuropoor trade nodes instead of colonial/mediterranean ones
wew

>>166767560
slowly
also everyone outside europe gets events/decisions that either massively slow the spread of later institutions or speed it up but increase revolt risk
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>>166766383
yes
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>>166698425
Can anyone help me out, every time I try to click on a unit in Vicy2 NWO my game always crashes
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>>166759974
>allied with France
that's actually what happened tho
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>>166767161

Miao
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>>166767043
>>166767231
Anyone?
>>166768027
>baby has a tail
Did this mean humanity would mutate into a perverted form now the nautical order had been done away with, or was the artist just lazy
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>>166768280
>Feminist Initiative
I REALLY hope this is a made up meme party

>>>>>>>>>13% Mayan
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>>166768380
i wish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_Initiative_(Sweden)
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>>166768380
>he thinks its a meme party
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>>166768356
>Anyone?
no kys
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>>166766838
>>166767579
Johan said that they will keep pushing out new DLC for current games as long as people will buy them.

They will only stop once the numbers drop.
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>>166768506
>The European elections of 2014 proved a turning point, as the party attracted 5.3% of the Swedish vote
So this is how libshits feel when """"""far-right"""""" parties get a lot of votes
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>>166768280
oh please
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Did I do good? I know I dropped the ball on Austria Hungary, but I couldn't dismantle them as a secondary power.
>>
Is HOI4 good enough yet to play
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>>166768380
>>166768506
>>166768554
>In the 2014 general election, Fi received a best-ever 3.1% of the vote; despite not meeting the 4.0% threshold for getting seats, Fi became the most popular party outside of parliament.
>the most popular party outside of parliament.
sweden's parliament is elected by proportional representation, for a party NOT to have at least one seat it would have to the very memiest of memes
t. not even a swede
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>>166768280
>7.8% Afrikaaner
>Unironically letting Wh*tes into your country
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>>166768818
come back in 5 years or so
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I mean it's not going terribly but certainly nowhere as good as the other guy's
>>
>>166768506
This is why Nigel wanted to leave
>>166768582
But why, the whole point of a General is to boil off the normies and make the autism [conc]
So just one question
What happens when I annex Papal land
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>>166760140
>gold
>oil
>rubber
>opium
>tropical wood
>all shit
>>
>>166768818
No.
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>>166768742
Why do you not own belgium and naples?
>>
somebody host
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>>166769008
>What happens when I annex Papal land
nothing unless you take rome without being italy
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>>166768979
>>166769095
damn

I really like the base they have but it's so god damn barebones
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>>166768982
You only have 34% literacy, I think a big reason why he got so successful was having 70+ literacy.
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>>166768742
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>>166768742
>tfw Bulgaria didn't get Tsarigrad
Pic related Bulgaria with the rest of European Turkey would look a e s t h e t i c.
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>>166768982
>2.13M
>14/21
>only one liquor factory
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>>166768726
>0 industry
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>>166769339
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>166769192
MP WHEN
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>>166769230
I heard I get a negative modifier if i take it, what is it, how long does it last for, and how am I supposed to rein in northern Italy if it's hard to keep rome.
Also Milan has become a republic, should I end the alliance to make them a duchy again to have a chance of inheriting their land or nay, once the war is over offcourse
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>>166768136
In 1446? It was the first nation they allied in game. Could you imagine the french allying with the ottomans right after a crusade against them? And then helping them invaded Constantinople? Fucking EU4.
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>>166769353
Are you kidding me
>>
yeehaw
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>>166769353
>404
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>>166769608
>what is it
look at the triggered modifier screen cuck
>how long does it last for
forever
>how am I supposed to rein in northern Italy
spend bird mana
>Also Milan has become a republic
annex them
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>>166769570
Seriously, somebody actually host, Sim seems to be dead
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>>166768982
>luxury furniture over 6 times more profitable than liquor
>>166769353
Shouldn't have been deleted desu, now we'll have the same autism occur as last time in 100 posts
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based mods
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>>166766963
>This game lets you genocide michicuks
I need to reinstall
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Thanks mods
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>>166767885
>wasting them on yuropoor trade nodes instead of colonial/mediterranean ones
There's no colonies in the game (it's 1487) and I have 0% trade power outside the English Channel.
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>>166768605
He said CK2 will have only one or two more
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Based jannies
sort of ashamed of this game after I've seen that Vietnam desu
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>>166770027
tHANK FUCK
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>>166770057
>spoiler
Why, he was obviously >cheating
>>
>>166770020
>There's no colonies in the game
why did you take trade ideas instead of exploration then retard
>>
>>166770027
>>166770027
That's pretty sad
>>
>>166770057
You don't have to minmax to have fun. I like roleyplaying more than maximising my scores.
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>>166770134
Because then I wouldn't be making money.
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>>166770246
People who minmax are the ones who usually get bored faster
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>>166770280
blob
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>>166769608
If you take rome you can do the decision and then let rome go free.
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yeehaw
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based
>>
is stellaris grand strategy yet?
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>>166770396
>taking rome
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Hello helpdesk, my Eastern Europe seems to have broken.
>>
I'm playing a megacampaign and plan on importing my VIC2 save into NWO.

Question about colonial emancipation: The countries in this timeline have had territories in Africa/The Americas since EU4. I THINK that the EU4>VIC2 converter treats these overseas regions differently than how the base game would. The question itself is if these overseas territories (Americas included) will be able to become independent nations in NWO.

Bonus question: if a nation retains colonies at the moment it integrates into a superstate, the colonies will become part of the superstate, correct?
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>>166769853
Playing on ironman so don't want to annex it and then savescum back
By rein in I meant enact the decision not to use monarch points
And Milan is the only ally responding to my calls so annexing them would be pointless
>>
>>166770575
You have to either take it or vasselize to reign in Italy in EU4.
>>
>>166770396
But doesn't it need to stay in the HRE for the shadow kingdom to not fire. Or does releasing it give me the decision without rome
>>
>>166770687
Theres an event to free Rome after taking it.
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>>166770580
Ive seen million times wors eastern Europe you aint seen nothin yet till youve seen 30 ukrainian and russian minors polish exclaves and Denmark owning russian land all the way into Siberia.
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>>166770097
Probably, yes. But now I want to start another game as Persia and do even better than him on the long run (up to 1936).
>>166770246
Agreed.
>tfw this Persia was so great that when Europe went full autistic in ~1932 I ended up getting hundreds of Russians, Chinese, Indian and British immigrants monthly.
Game was literally unplayable from them on though.
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WHY THE FUCK DO INDIA AND CHINA ALWAYS DWARF EVERYONE ELSE IN NWO
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>>166770565
no
>>
>>166770939
>not reading the newspapers
plebeian
>>
>>166770978
>realism is bad
>>
>>166770978
>More pops then anyone else by miles
>No weakness from being uncivilized
gee I wonder.
>>
>>166770865
If I do that can I still reign in Italy
>>
>>166770865
Right after the Peace Treaty to annex do the decision. It will then permantly be apart of the HRE. Then do the event to realease and it stays in the HRE.
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>>166770978
hmm I wonder why
>>
>>166770582
>>166770582
>>166770582

Simplified questions:

Can colonies in the Americas declare independence in NWO?

And if a country still has colonies if it integrates into a globalist superstate the colonies will also become part of the superstate, right?
>>
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>>166771005
wew lad
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>>166771056
>China has a bigger economy than the US by 1960-70
>realistic
Literally the only exception I've ever seen is the one time the US attacked China...and promptly fell behind India instead.
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what now
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>>166770978
Asian Century etc. etc.
>>
>>166771054
this
>>
>>166771054
>reading newspapers after 1870
It's literally +90% generic shit about nations researching things, fearing other nations, declaring wars or falling to rebels. The first two are irrelevant and the last two can be seen during normal gameplay.
>>
>>166771426
Agree x1
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>>166769627
1536 historically
they did it to screw over Austrians
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>>166771216
Pick any
>>
>>166771426
Helpful x1
>>
>>166771489
>>166771581
Disrespectfully Agree x1
>>
>>166770939
I wanna do another roleplay game as Prussia where I act in the way the elected ruling party would. (Nationalliberale wanna grab colonies, Socialists wanna devolve colonies and return autonomy to the states slowly, Conservatives don't want colonies (Bismarck was strictly against German colonialism to avoid conflict that could upset the balance of power that kept Europe at peace) shit like that).

But I wish there was a way to keep playing beyond 1936. I might have to look into one of those converters. Is there a good one out yet?
>>
>>166771518
>innovation
am i being memed on
>>
>>166771506
Ya I know they did but I mean really and the russians as well? This game man. The best part is when I went to war with the ottomans the French dropped off 40k troops in Anatolia WHILE AT WAR WITH THE AUSTRIANS. I was a bigger threat then the Austrians. Only reason I won is the hungarians got lucky and sieged won the ottoman capitol while the ottomans dragged thier feet doing the same with my capitol then the next war I just pull the ol galley block the straight strat from days of old.
>>
>>166771703
Helpfully respect x1
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How?
>>
>>166771518
does influence tree affect colonialn ations? talking about all these vassal bonuses
>>
>>166771935
Assimilation does odd things in initially sparsely populated provinces.
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>>166771935
Mh wow that's a lot of reds.
>>
>>166771935
>Congolombia has better forts than you
>>
>>166771127
Thanks
So just 1 Venetian province and 4/5 Papal provinces to take in 30 years.
I should be fine.
Also once I have 50 imperial authority I can pass reichsform regardless or what the princes think right?
>>
>>166770978
You can outdo them as the European Union

Easily kept my industry score above India and just barely below China's with a way higher military score than both.
>>
>>166772315
There is one new already, stop shitting the general.

>>66772151
>>66772151
>>66772151
>>66772151
>>
>>166772504
"no"
>>
>>166772315
That was fast, based mods.

>>166772327
I was playing as some African shithole, basically as an 'observer'.
>>
>>166772504
I've fucked up a litte.

>>166772151
>>166772151
>>166772151
>>166772151
>>
is Brazil a good starter nation for learning? Seems to have little threats on the continent and can expand minimally but safely
>>
>>166772217
>1918
>building forts
>>
>>166772750
Yes. You can also play as the eternal anglo because they are basically easy mode during the entire campaign.
>>
>>166772905
Alright thanks. I'll do Brazil. If I played as UK I would want to restore historical borders and I'm not ready to take on that much for my first game
>>
DE JA VU
I HAVE LIQUORED THIS PLACE BEFORE
HIGHER ON THE INDUSTRY SCORE AND I KNOW ITS MY TURN TO GO
>>
Hitlermod when?
>>
>>166772905
How do you industrialise Brazil? All they have is fucking meme rgos
>>
>>166771216
>colonial nation in Africa
Explain. Is it a mod?
>>
>>166773443
Ya there a few mods like that I use one myself. Mine adds colonial nations to sub Saharan africa India and indochina.
>>
>>166773443
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=554515056
had to rename them though
>>
>>166773284
Prestige spam, grab political reforms quickly to encourage immigration and go for 4% intellectuals in all provinces. Conquering Uruguay, Paraguay and Entre Rios also helps.
>>
In victoria 2 what the fuck do I do with tanks and airplanes
>>
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Confeds actually took back cores without my help. I just needed to help them in the start.
>>
>>166773772
tanks replace engineers planes replace hussars
>>
>>166773772
What >>166773864 says plus a few 5 airplane and 5 tank stacks to use as breakthrough armies and sphere police in the late game.
>>
>>166773830
how is their mil score so big

did the black confederacy HPM bug happen?
>>
>>166773830
Noice
>>
>>166774165
He is probaly playing vanilla, lad.
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>>166774165
>did the black confederacy HPM bug happen?
What?
>>166774252
Its HPM
>>
>>166772245
Is this good?
>>
>>166773601
Is it working so far? Could somebody test it?
>>
>>166772750
South America is so fucking boring. Absolutely nothing to do, shit resources, shit literacy, lots of immigration but shit pops to start with. You can't do a single goddamn thing without the US coming down to wreck your shit for no reason.

Honestly all the paradox games but especially Victoria are just made for European countries, you'll miss out on all the fun. Sweden has lots of room to expand and you can form Scandinavia and stuff, not a whole lot to worry about except for Russia but it should be fun to try to keep them off your back. If things go really bad you can always just retreat back to your little peninsula away from all the shit going on in Europe.

Netherlands is pretty good too, start with a bit of a colonial empire and lots of opportunity to expand it. Good industrial base too. You can play the great powers against each other to keep you safe, usually. Maybe you can even convince them to let you take Belgium back and then you can really have fun.

France is honestly not too bad too, even if you fuck up really badly you're still pretty much guaranteed to be a GP and have lots of influence. Just don't fucking let Germany form.

Prussia is fucking easy too, you literally just get grossgermaniums handed to you and become a fucking powerhouse if you just go through all the events. The AI for Austria and France both seem pre-programmed to just let you kick their asses.
>>
new thread
>>166774702
>>166774702
>>166774702
>>166774702
>>
>>166773830
I still have literally never seen the civil war not be a complete fucking stomp with the CSA forming with like 20 military score or less. With HPM and vanilla, it doesn't seem to matter which. Just for once I want to see something interesting happen in the Americas.
>>
>>166774497
Game nor found. Did you forward your ports? is that your public ip?
>>
>>166774497
Can't you do it?
>>
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>>166774524
>South America is so fucking boring
Depends on what you do.
>>
>>166774787
I've seen it happen a few times
>>
>>166774868
SA is irrelevant
>>
>>166773601
>dead
What was it?
>>
>>166774741
>11 memes earlier
>>
>>166775004
>not knowing how to count
>>
>>166774996
His IP and checksum.
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I will help them out this time
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>>166774868
That's pretty boring too tho
>>
>>166770565
yes
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Kek, based Confeds
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>>166771071
>India
>civilized
>>
New thread with the proper OP

>>166775110
>>166775110
>>166775110
>>166775110
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>>166774524
>South America is so fucking boring. Absolutely nothing to do, shit resources, shit literacy, lots of immigration but shit pops to start with. You can't do a single goddamn thing without the US coming down to wreck your shit for no reason.
>Complaining about realism

Just git gud bro
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The most aesthetic Mexican borders?
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Should I do it? Do I have time for it?
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>>166778678
Non-existent. Mexico should become a part of the USA where its 31 states are added onto the present 50.

We just need to take Canada as well, upgrade Puerto Rico into a state, and we'll be sitting at 95 states. I'm not sure other US territories are large enough to justify statehood, so we may have to take Cuba and a Central American country or two so we can hit 100 States and reach our true form.
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Well that was pretty easy
>>
How does one get a country out of a Great Powers sphere if you yourself aren't a great power?
>>
>>166779639
>Powerful Mexico
Disgusting
>>
>>166779230
but only if America ceases to become a republic
elections would be a pain
>>
>>166779919
Neither Mexico nor the US would accept a monarchy again. Both of them chimp out whenever that happens.
>>
>>166778678
C U B A
U
B
A
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>>166779896
Not playing as Taco at least three times in your lifetime
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>thread went past bump limit
woah
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