Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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/Bullies/ when?

Add CoffeeHouse to next OP, it's more /tosg/ than FP.

>>166692974
roger o/

Who is the Templar though right now? Capy isnt it iirc

Add Crimson to next OP, it's more /tosg/ than FP.

>>166692992
Should be Capy now.

Add Ohayou to next OP, it's more /tosg/ than FP

I JUST GOT RUSHED BYE CATA FOR 5K DAMAGE (NON CRITS) WITH PLATE ARMOR 1.5k def

It was a rare non-cleric 5x5.

I survived once because of evasion, broke his rush with dust devil but my team was slaughtered already

>rush was weak let's buff it to 150% damage when transcendence is a thing instead of giving base damage only

thanks kim

>>166693353
retard

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>>166693512

>>166693353
>Ohayoutards still shitposting

Just fuck off and take FP with you

>>166693636
It's the same parroting autist. His """witty""" reposting never makes any sense.

Add >>166693636 to next OP, it's more /tosg/ than FP

>people paying 70k for drake hearts

made some serious money with this shit wtf

>>166693827
>70k

I sold mine for 500k, loser.

Is Sabbah/Ghostly Tail as shit as it seems?

>>166693952
yes, the only thing to get Warlock C2 for is DT 10 and Invocation 10

>>166693952
Yes

WL2 is ass. Rank9 will save Warlocks

>>166693975
Does invocation get anything special as you level it? Besides what is on the tooltip

>>166694132
the orbs last significantly longer with the attributes (100%+ uptime) and people abuse it to farm maps like dina bee farm and DP

>>166693368
The entire point of buffing it was to make it scale into late game since Cata's an r6 class that people are only using to PvP. Besides, with the def buffs Catas are still doing less damage than before and somebody that whaled/farmed that hard would have killed you with pretty much anything regardless.

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>>166692970
Make it and I'll join it!

BOYS, I haven't played in a while, is it better for archers to go pretty much full DEX now with the whole transcendence thing and weapons having insane attack?

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>que 240 dg on my runecaster
>pelt3squire3 in team
>level 1 taunt
>is always the last person to enter a new room with adds

literally cant make this up

>>166694713
>BOYS

Stopped reading there.

>>166694713
>BOYS
Stay away

>>166694741
>>166694887
no girls allowed

>>166693903

>day 1

me too lel

anyway, got another 3 after the last post

How come guilds don't use forges or the stacking potion boosts? Was surprised to see you can set up 5 forges for 550 guild wide attack boost, and apparently you can make potions that give +50% of X damage type. That's like stage 4 trans guildwide.

>>166695130
Recieps are a pain to get and the duration is limited.

>>166695116
>>166693827
wtf lmao i sold some for 400 and 450 in week1 lel kek'd

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Dummb question

Is that helmet part of the murmillo outfit?

>>166695581
Its not. Its a buff skill, like PD mask.

>>166693636
>what is a falseflagger?

hey if there are any people left that aren't cleric/mage playing pussies can you tell me how I should distribute my str/dex

Go find the rune you fucking bitch jesus christ it's been hours.

>>166696242
all dex
no str
every class

>>166696242
invest everything in reroll

>>166696242

5:1 dex>str minimum. Even full dex is good. Str is on a really shit state now, if you EVER put str, do it only after r8, purely for pvp and only if you really know what you're doing.

>but I'm a wugush-

no, fuck off. even wugu 3 takes mergen at the end, you'll lose so much dps on every other skill bar the wugu (and even 800 str ain't much0 set that is not worth going full str and rogue wugushi sux

the only thing that changes when you play wugu is that you pick red gems over yellows on weapon

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I know you guys say lancer is shit but she's too cute not to play. I'm doing it /tosg/

>>166696816
IDIOT

>>166696816

lancer is not shit, lancer is awesome.

dragoon 2 is broken, just this, but sometimes that c1 corsair at r7 makes much more than dragoon could ever dream of

sw3 cata 3 corsair 1 lancer and you're good to go. remember to pick steed charge lv 1

>>166696981
>sw3 cata 3 corsair 1 lancer and you're good to go

But what about sword2hop2cata3lance?

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Are we ever going to get more mounts?

>>166696334
hehehe

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I asked a friend that played both in the beta and release, he told me that the game is a buggy mess and has no endgame, is this truth?
I might end up playing either way just for the cute girls.

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>>166697618
I want that mount.

>>166697748
Yes

>>166697748
There is an end game but the requirements to be viable for it are a little absurd, it essentially requires 3 months of doing daily chores on multiple characters as well as a meta build in order to really be end-game viable if you want to play a dps char. If you want to play a support character it takes less investment, but since supports are cheap AND good at PvP it means there's an overabundance of them.

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How would stat distribution go for this build?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/a8sd6pug9p/

1:1 CON/STR with a side of dex or?

>>166697937
With the current game balance you just don't get strength, you put the majority of your points into Dex and invest 50-100 points into Con depending on your preference. This applies to every physical build in the game except Wugushi.

>>166697748
you should give it a try either way.

>>166698067
That's very strange, but okay thanks. Is that just because crits are so much more important than reliable hits or what?

Im planning on going Doppel3. My Stats are by now 50 STR and 50 DEX. How am I doing? should i reroll now or the 50 str wil improve my dmg in the future?

>>166698201
it's just that the strength stat in itself is garbage compared to DEX due to the base damage on weapons being so insanely high compared to the added damage from STR

>>166698384
thats fine, the 50 str gives you block penetration which might dick you over

>>166697748
>buggy mess and has no endgame, is this truth?
Buggy mess is true, every patch claims fixing stuff but it mostly fixes whatever people are complaining most right now while popping several small bugs that makes playing more and more a chore.

There is endgame, but it is pretty mediocre compared to other MMORPGs, dominated by whales or NEETs. Which there is nothing wrong on happening, dedicated people should reap more rewards, of course. It doesn't change it makes less appealing for normal people.

>>166698201
str lends to your dps logarithmically, dex exponentially, as your phys attack increases

when you're weak str is the better stat but as you get stronger dex always wins out

>>166698726
>>166698385
that makes sense, thanks famalam

will the 290 dg boss cube really drop cards one day or was i rused?

>>166699116
rused

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>>166698794
that being said IMC """should""" eventually be reworking STR to actually scale properly soon(tm)

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>>166699176
so i saved 300 cubes for nothing....

Game is still dying.
Queues become longer and longer with each passing day.

>>166699296
>still rolling alts

>>166699480
there's nothing else to do

>>166696981
What stats for lancer? Full CON?

>>166699656
Full DEX.

Why is Moesaki so fucking good? Does he teach people how to play?

>>166699252
Does that mean that everyone's dex builds will be shit and they'll have to remake? Or do you tihnk they'll give out resets or something?

>>166699275
>>166699116
maybe. wait a little

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>>166699809
I wonder who might be behind this post.

>>166699809
fuck chronomancers

they dont do shit all they do is hit like 2 buttons and get carried by people who put hundreds of millions into their gear and attributes while chronos just horde money and buy costumes and act cute when theyre really all just fucking jews

>>166700096
>how DARE they be my buff bot?!!!!

>>166700096
How does it feel that you need haste and pass to be competitive in anything so you are their cuck?

>>166699296
>running dungeons in 2017

HAH

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>>166699580
farm silver to buy shards to transcend your orange weapons

>>166700430
retard i dont need chronos fuck off

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>>166700096
added you to [ Chrono Mafia ]*tm Blacklist.

Have fun going slow and having much cooldowns forever.

>>166700567
>pass is needed to do aus + melstis which is EVERYTHING when it comes to PvE
Enjoy accomplishing nothing.

So with appraiser coming out and having some innate crit chance abilities, do you guys think str archers might actually be viable? Maybe for GBL as a utility build with some supplementary damage?

Was thinking something like Archer QS3 Appraiser X(Falcon maybe) cannon 2. Just focus on bazooka+RS for damage with Appraiser giving your team some nice utility in extra bracelets even if missile hole is up.

>>166700590
GAS THE CHRONOS!
HANAMING WAR NOW!

>>166700662
I bet it will be like enchanter or chaplain.

town jew or another
>muh hidden class Trap

Why are you fags so obsessed with Memesaki?

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>>166700656
dont need aus melstis dumbass
chronos should kill themselves they expect to be carried everywhere just because therre fuckin chronos

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>>166701157
>dont need aus melstis

>>166700974
The only shit hidden now is Chap.

>>166701231
It's called having two diev 3 krivis 3
I'd rather have redundant clerics than a fucking chrono in my party

>>166701008
>two diev 3 krivis 3
Play the game.

>>166701452
>giving up Pass, Haste, Quicken for two diev 3 krivis 3
you are retarded

Do any /rog/ guilds play here?

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>>166701452

>>166701638
no.
there is no ro here.

>>166699896
They will probably give us a stat reset potion and a class reset potion when archer secret class comes

>>166701638
get the FUCK out

>>166701821
Fantastic thanks
>>166701943
I was asking so I'd know where to avoid, I fucking hate /rog/

>>166702006
no I mean if you haven't already started playing this piece of shit game get the FUCK out while you still can

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>>166702169
b-but i'm having a lot of fun

What's better? Magic amp or magic attack?
Say I jewed out and got a hairpiece enchanted with +110magic amp. Is it better than one with +110magic attack?

>>166702291
no, you dont.

>>166702460
amp is crap

attack is great and needed in R8

>>166700974
It depends on how the duplicate accessory thing works I think, if somebody truly wanted to go absolute madman and transcend their accessories for their guild's use things could get ridiculous, and if set effects get passed on too you could get people enabling +25 to all stats for their allies from Solmiki, Rhevisan dark prop defense while still being able to wear Sissel's, Poratore set magic defense>property damage conversion, etc.

Or if your guild are mega whales that win GBL every week you can feed your guild appraiser TP to buy p2w bracelets and enjoy 180 guild wide Spr for all your guild battles.

>>166702460
m.atk.
m.apm is just like max atk but for magic.

Literally nobody does high level siauliai anymore now that the cookies are kill

anyone else fucking HATE chronos?

>>166702460

2 M.Amp = 1 matk

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>>166702908

>>166702862
Not true.
I did 6 today. 3 Yesterday.

>>166702564
Can they duplicate agni so you can have 2 agnis?

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>>166702908

>>166702908
I don't, I think they're the cutest and bring a lot of utility to the team!

>>166702908
I want to hatefuck the time out of them

>>166702990
It's american power hour and there's unironically in the literal sense of the term nobody for 320+ siauliai

>>166702556
>>166702637
Thanks.

Dumb question, but would straight +matk be better than +(element) property damage, or does that depend on the mob?

Also, why the fuck do I see wizards with Five Hammers with 5 lvl6 red gems?
Five hammers with red gems don't increase auto attacks or even spell damages do they?

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>>166703147
>Five hammers with red gems don't increase auto attacks or even spell damages do they?

>>166703147
Element would be better because it doesn't get mdef applied to it, just elemental resistance.

Red gems increase the max attack of both physical and magical attack, and so work like magic amp.

>>166703147
pure matk is usually better because it's affected by chapparitions and isn't subject to resistances.

red gems increase the maximum attack, which also applies to magic damage.

>>166703108
Little late now. I did 6 at 8.xx pm

>>166703147
m.att is best you can get as a wiz(+maybe cleric)

max attack also adds to magic attack

anyone else really fucking love Moesaki?

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>>166701829
Why would they?

>>166703302
>Element would be better because
No, you need MagicAttack to get over high R8 Mdef.
90 element doesnt do much at 300-500k HP mobs or millions of HP bosses

>>166703297
I mean for wizards since they can use the gay hammer but it "deals" physical damage, even though wizards shoot bolts for AA. That's where my confusion is.

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>>166703505
b-because IMC loves us and cares for their playerbase?

>>166703470
NO
FUCK that BITCH

>>166703579
max attack = physical attack and magical attack

>>166701616
>quicken
not needed
>haste
eh, can be useful
>pass
only important thing

>>166703568
>90 matk that gets taken away from mdef does more than 90 element that doesn't on a non strong enemy without support from spending millions on cards

okay

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>>166703668
Yes

>>166703836
90matt can turn into much when you are over the enemys mdef.
just stack matt

>>166703568
The memeformula says elemental damage doesn't get reduced by mdef, but does get bonuses from enchance attributes, so it's actually kind of better.
I'd still go with m.atk though for chapparitions and I think matk rolls can get higher than eledamage.

>>166703737
>Quicken gives +25% Crit Rate to your physical DPS.
>Haste allows you to kite things and move around the area much quicker.
>Pass literally cuts of time from your CDs

I wont forget to mention that you can take sage and linker 2 in a chrono build and bring even more utility.

Face it anon, you are a retard.

>>166701157
LEAVE MO'SUCKY ALONE

>>166703959
>90matt can turn into much when you are over the enemys mdef.
90ele is always over the enemy's def, and if it's holy, it's more like 180 on the majority of enemies. It literally turns your 1s into some damage.

>2k m.attack + random elements for a total of 500
>1s

>2.4k m.attack + random elements for a total of 100
>4 or 5 digit numbers

>>166704051
hoesaki can go suck a huge fat dick i know he likes it cause he takes 4 of them every et

>>166704186
that's not how it works

>>166704123
>90ele is always over the enemy's def
I wonder about that.
I have some elemental damage and I still do 1s on Vilka Fighters (2999 mdef).

The formula on the forums is shady af.

>>166703994
Most Archers and the GOOD swordsmen(hop3) already have crit cap, why they would waste a buff slot for quicken, retard.

Chrono is a One-Skill class, and thats Pass, everything else I'd rather have something else.

>>166704279
it is how it works with Agni

>>166704279
it does

>>166704338
It's entirely possible they have elemental resistances too, you know.

>>166704391
It's not how it works at all by way of the damage formula. elements don't get applied until after defenses. Even if matk gets lowered to 1, the elemental damage applies after and then gets multiplied by your modifiers. Only a high resistance to that element will nullify it. 500 ele damage is otherwise 500 def ignoring damage.

>>166704618
Just go test some high mdef mobs. Element does not help you not doing 1s. Gotta have MAtt to beat Mdef.

On the fence about buying an Agny Necklace. Does it increase every attack with +200 fire property attack?

>>166704834
Yes, same shit as Arde/Karacha Daggers

>>166704618
>It's entirely possible they have elemental resistances too, you know.
Possible but unlikely. I have 350+ of fire damage with agni and karacha and I do 1s on pretty much every high mdef mob (vilka fighters, mages, etc...).

>>166704370
Daino is a skill and often times you'll have a krivis. No need to worry about buff slots then, retard.

But this is all discussion of end game builds and party comp, I shouldn't assume that most that browse /tosg/ would understand how end game works. Especially from someone that would rather take two kriv3 diev3 instead.

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>oy vey ele damage is good goy! especially when it's ohly damage! buy my hats goy
Miassinfo

Is Grynas Top+Bot with 4 Lv6 YellowGem + Stage1 Trasc good for R8 content?

>>166704834
if you're not using it on a pyromancer, its still basically an arde dagger you wear on your neck + 50 fire attack, its great on archers

>>166705040
Im not selling them and im not posting for ele dmg.
Trade my Hats!

>>166705040
>the element 80% of the mobs in the game are weak to is not good
?

>>166704814
>>166704969
It's most likely just them having elemental resist. Go have some one cast a resist lowering spell on them.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/damage-guide-the-big-formula-modifier-types-and-how-they-interact/118950

>>166705053
No, you fucked it up m8. WTF were you thinking?

>>166705053
Yellow gems in armor are a meme propagated by crimson dogs.

>>166705053
>Grynas...
>when you could pick Virtov Plate of Hasta

what a waste...

>>166705053
It's fine, ignore the retards.

>>166705053
Yellow or Red in Armors is fine.
Dont need Armor Transc for R8 (pve)

>>166705649
Actually it mitigates part of the damage so its not that bad. The only bad thing is they will change how def work somewhere in the future.

Dont know why would you trascend grynas honestly.

>>166705053
dont waste shards transcending armor, you could also buy a set of virtov for the cost of stage 1 transcend

>>166705750
>Actually it mitigates part of the damage so its not that bad.
Only relevant in pve, but in pve physical damage is never an issue.
And in pvp is worthless when what kills you are nukes from skills with 12k base damage and stage 10 weapons.

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>>166705870
>12k base damage and stage 10 weapons.
*unzips Devalue*

Appraisers soon senpai

>tbl
>2x2
>two pychokinos vs a whale cleric and some pve build
>whale cleric had so much mdef that my psychic pressure delt 300/tick and the other guy did 0
>we literally CC'd the cleric for 15 min to win the fight

top kek, I need chemo

>>166706094
I like how full con psychos think you need to whale to nullify psychic pressure, any half decent armor blocks it.

>>166706637
You can't block a whale with a stage 7+ weapon though.

Trascending armor is a waste of ur valuable shards anon. Better use it on a weapon.

Yellow Gems are not bad on top and bot (Plate). The only thing you should be aware is that IMC will change the def formula so be aware.

>>166705053
>stage1
For what purpose? It's not going to add that much and it will prevent you from using the same armor on alts later, which is the best part of a cheap set of grynas.

>>166705649
You're a meme.

>>166705652
>Virtov
It's not even worth farming the recipes.
>Hasta
Extremely expensive and impossible to solo farm. Anyone going for this should have cheaper armor already.

>>166705870
A red gem isn't going to save you from dethrone, but a yellow one can save you from rush. You're going to be dying to every undergeared scrub if you don't get enough defense.

>>166705983
>60% chance
>blocked by bloodletting
>dispelled by gohei
I hope you plan to use it strictly in PvE.

>>166706637

But I'm not full con, 500 int, but my rod sux (+7 maga rod lv 5 blues) squire buff and only 70% PP attribute. But PP base damage is not joke, almost 1k at lv 16.I had to switch from shield to dagger +3 matk hats to hit 300/tick lol

>>166707062

>hunter
>pet bites
>remove whale's fat
>pew pew

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>>166707083
>maga rod

>>166707059
>A red gem isn't going to save you from dethrone, but a yellow one can save you from rush. You're going to be dying to every undergeared scrub if you don't get enough defense.
No you won't. Even if you don't always have apsersion up, you'll still be practically immune to Rush and other low level memeskills. It's even more true if you are full CON. And if you get rushed by RMTers with stage 10 pikes, then your shitty gems won't do anything.

HP gems will save you from getting oneshot by lucky crits and whatnot. It also boost heals (and maybeHP gained from transcending armor too?).

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>>166707202


day 38, two characters. just fuck my shit up senpai

>>166707159
I'm a hunter scout, retard. There's nothing you can do to me that doesn't end with you getting your face cannon blasted.

>>166707436
then get some cheap sup corona+5 or 5hammer
stop using 170 trash gear

as a 220 Doppel, which weapon will be decent for my way to rank8?

>>166707265
>HP gems will save you from getting oneshot by lucky crits and whatnot.
Reinstall the game and go take a look at how much HP is on those gems. If you're full con it's not much of a difference and won't save you from massive crits.

But if shitty gems won't do anything against stage 10 and you're already practically immune to anything else, why bother getting gems at all, right? In reality you're not immune and transcendence isn't a binary 0 or 10 deal. Defense adds up to more than HP after a pretty small number of hits.

>>166707771
twin viencie blade or whatever its called should be fine, its a triple slot weapon.

Or a Maga 2 hander

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Holy shit guys.

We're 180+ posts in and there's almost no off-topic discussion or shitposting. We almost look decent for a moment.

>>166708301
I hope we turn into /sc2/.

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>>166708393
More like we're on the final stages, when people just can't anymore.

>/tosg/ will die before interactible chairs, comfy housing, comfy ins, marriage and pregnancy are a reality

We have failed you, Momijiposter.

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None will ever buy that recipe right?

>>166708891
I can...for 20k =)

>>166707598

+7 maga rod has similar magic to corona +5, anon, lose a bit when squire 15 is involved, but gives a better hp bonus and the -sp is neat when leveling (psychokino skills eats max sp)

my maga rod beats five hammer as well. I have one too. it's a good weapon, but a relic of the past

>>166707436
I can feel you
I just care for one orange weapon too, the other character can stick forever with the purple poorfag version

>>166708891

>cannon

kek

>>166708891
cannon fix soon!

>>166708891
did you finally get your artolinoum capy?

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>>166709642
Doing the first daily run right now
No, Artilonium doesn't exist and i feel the need to roll a Pyro2Link2Thaum2

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cuteee

>>166709748
Mages are Link immune and fire element.
Like half of that dungeon is horrible with Pyro.

>>166709893
Yeah but i can farm money with it in the 240 dungeon faster and farmning the orange mats with a Druid is gonna be hell

>>166710135
oh, true that

>>166710348
Also for what i care about rank 8 i am happy on just finishing my Lolopanther sets and craft some gear for my alts, preparing for rank 9 God knows when

Red pill me on A2 QS3 SR1 Soon™ to be SR3, should I just reroll? I didn't know running shot did not synergise with SR skills

>>166711030
It does but the whole point of Sr is being in melstis and at that point steady aim wins out

>>166708891
It's actually a really really fucking good cannon. But
>cannon
I don't know if that's 25mil or 2.5mil you put it up for but it's value is low compared to other recs because cannons are in a poor spot atm. Though that is likely to change once cannon buffs hit. Three slot off hand and the cannons own stats are terrific make it a cannons wet dream. Really hope cannon buffs pull them out of the ditch they're in.

Does equipment have a chance to break if I go from 1 potential to 0 potential?

>>166712151
No you have to fail AT zero potential and go to negative 1.

>>166712184
So if I put a gem in a potential 1 item it won't break? Thanks.

Do weapons really refine up to +5 without breaking? Or is the wiki just outdated?

>>166712398
+5 without breaking. The game warns you every time you go to enhance when you hit the threshold that you can start losing potential.

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>tfw finally the artilonium

>that cloth top/bottom

capyba likes to suffer wtf


go full plate yellows my man and use heal purely for dps, speeds up a lot the process, more than 15 int. gloves/boots can go full dps

>>166713136
Every time I see it I just think to myself that this is his own special way of punishing himself. Let the baka be.

>>166713136
>plate

nice maymay

>>166712569
>making the 1h sword
wtf capy what are you doing

>>166713359
You have no idea how it works, do you? Kinda cute actually

>>166713359
it doesn't matter what cube you craft, retard

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>>166713359

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>>166713136
>>166713265
Defense and surviability are literally not an issue for Druid3
And heal bombs are irrelevant

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>>166713402
>>166713413
>>166713549
I w-was just kidding

>>166713359
he told ya >>166713684

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>>166713684

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>>166714306
Stop it, the white recipe for suffering enough

>>166713684
Reroll it twice you dumb shy mammal!

>>166713684
>heal bombs are irrelevant

Mine do like 7k-10k a tick, depending on the mob. That adds up to a lot, only irrelevant if you need to git gud

>orange weapon mats goes for 90-150k
Thought they were more expensive

So I need a second Zachariel Bangle for my main character, what's a good build for speedrunning to get that shit?

>>166714834
Ranger3 with full dex

Any madmen fencers out there make a Lionhead Dagger?

>>166714825
They aren't all equally rare and valuable, you can sell a ton at 1.5 mill and for some even higher than that.

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lets say I actually play the game this weekend. what should I focus on? what do I do at end game for fun? totally serious.

>>166715294
>playing "my class is cucked by no weapons before Solmiki" Fencer

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>>166715294

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>>166715551
and his madman weapon

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>>166715551
>>166715598

>>166715551
>>166715598
I'd say he regrets not holding out for a ven but he probably really doesn't give a fuck, so good on him.

>>166715449
In one weekend you'd just be leveling and learning the ropes, most likely saving silver for an Arde dagger or Token.. At end game you mostly grind items and silver to advance your character, there isn't really much to do in this game besides kill things in various scenarios and work toward being able to do the end game raid tower and bosses.

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>>166715598
>>166715551
Jesus christ.

I'm planning on building this, what do you guys think of it? Any suggestions?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#213338h88.1323354351.2f3a6a7585.1f21314c5a6175.152535

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What are your feelings about the portrait art /tosg/

>>166717838
im horny

>>166717838
>Ears
>Eyes
>Hats
>Cleavage
They're okay aside from those I guess.

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>>166718147
too much tiddy for you anon?

>>166709893
>>166709748
Do we have a resident enchanter where I can buy tons of Joint penalty scrolls at?

For farming Artillium solo 290 dungeon. I'll buy in bulk. Hopefully the cost is within the silver drop rate of the amount of joint scrolls going to be used.

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>>166716038
Alright that makes sense thanks for the advice.

>>166718446
Yes, but more than that I don't like how everyone must have huge chest and cleavage, including the males.

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>>166717838

>3 full kinos on opposing team
>IMC apparently thinks this is okay

>>166715551
I don't understand

>>166719160
>Not playing Kino

People think this is ok

>>166709893
Did you even try? IMC is retarded and cannot into math.
The multipliers from agny and element allegiance stack additively. With agny fireball gets like 380% damage. When hitting fire property mobs it becomes 330% lol. Only some specific mobs (like 5 or so) heal from fire and it has nothing to do with them being fire property, it's hardcoded.

Hey tosg, long hiatus player here. Missed the whole Class Rank reset thing, is there any way to salvage this?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c31.1a2239435561.1f213f42516991a1.152545.15213544

Full SPR, seems like I got stealth nerfed since I cannot crit without using greens anymore with Zalciai.

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>tfw Fedimain is an honest hardworking server to the point there are no stage10 weapons and no 40F clear yet
Comfiest server

>>166720702
There are people with stage 8 around
>captcha: whale

>>166720902
Fedimian has seriously no players with Stage10 weapons?
Thats fucking more dead than Orsha

>>166720948
>people don't RTM out of their ass
>dead server lmao

>>166720948
schwarznagger should have by this point
But I guess he rmts all of his farmed silver for rubles

>>166720531
Not an expert on clerics but I think Inquisitor is a good last rank for you.

>>166721032
Yes it's a dead server, you don't even have whales

>>166721157
t.minigamefag

He has dedicated his build to full support minus the Chaplain. Going for Miko or Oracle would be better.

>>166721749
>full support
literally useless

Kepa anon where are you

>>166721749
>>166721157
I thought about Miko, but due to high SPR it will be impossible to reasonably keep Kagura up. Without that the whole class utility goes way down, Clap/Sweeping Capella is great but Capella itself is mediocre due to having to leave and rejoin AoE. With inquisitor I could at least try to rack up a shitload of greens and try to make do with Zalciai crits with Monstrance -Evasion. Oracle seems to be the foolproof choice since it's utility is obvious with only one rank.

What I am having trouble deciding is Taoist, TriDisaster giving 60% resistance to elemental damage, Dark Sight giving invisibility and Storm Calling attribute allowing more physical damage and Lightning, even if I will have only low level Zaibas. All of this seem way more supportive than Inqui, and if Tao R9 goes even more supportive (though the green sigil means nothing when PD gets Steam), it would probably be a less stat reliant choice than Inquisitor.

>>166721804
Yeah, I know.

>>166722006
Who?

>>166708891
i bought one of those for 1.5m
but tosg doesnt know about cannon buff or simply dont care about non cleric class/ kino max CC/ hunters

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Was RuneCaster problem really that they couldn't cast any spell under Giant mode? Or is the buff just to shut everyone up because it makes Thaum+RC have a billion health and Thaum+RC+FF2 have a even more ridiculous gimmick than Cryo+Kino+RC?

>>166722367
A lot of the buffs seem to be based off of aesthetic roles they intended the classes to serve.

>>166722367
Runecasters now become the defensive version of druids

>>166722367
>For months, everyone complains that rune of giants is bad because you can't use any skills
>Was RuneCaster problem really that they couldn't cast any spell under Giant mode?

>>166722367
Well Rune of Giant's problem was that you couldn't do anything but jump around. IMC acts like it has some amazing hidden interaction no one noticed but it was really just useless. There's a million ways to fix it though, like fixing physical link and letting you link to the giant HP tank or something, but letting you use skills with it is something. Not much though. Maybe.

Rune Caster's problem was shit skills, and too few skills, like all hidden classes. Should have had a pyro boosting skill to go with the ice one so agni wouldn't have to exist, and had some sort of debuff, like rune of Justice making enemies in an aoe turn holy element or something and those in Rune of Destruction have magic def lowered. They should have worked in a lightning spell too.

>>166722767
I thought that was for other classes, since most of the time people would Giants their pelt/barian and they'd be angry they couldn't do shit but Swash and jump around. I really thought people had problem with it having a subpar kit but I was wrong.

>>166722771
>letting you use skills with it is something. Not much though. Maybe.
Same point as above, when I see RC they are so unbelievably weak unless Build of Kings. It's hard to believe it is a R6 rank, I guess RC players really did want to be able to be useless but now with big health bars.

>>166722232
Because pvp fags think that if they shitpost enough their "meta" will become true.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112bbbeg.1a2a35435161.15243541.1f233f41516575.112551

What skills should I take on the PD?

>>166722771
>like fixing physical link and letting you link to the giant HP tank
Ausrine is much better, and if you wanted to keep it up all the time for unpredictable damage, you would've been sacrificing a group member's skills for the whole fight. In pvp, a strong enemy GBL team would still burn through the extra hp.

Lowering magic defense is a good idea, which could give rune caster a desired niche and make it fit into to a lot of different builds.

>>166722947
Aiming for a big numbers damage role is a dead end since they've chosen to go with extreme power inflation for new ranks. If even elementalist is seen as falling off in rank 8, when both new wizard classes got pathetic damage compared to the other archetypes, there's no hope of making rune caster direct damage skills relevant in rank 9. Buffing, however, is futureproof. Now that giants is becoming usable, the obvious place to get more improvements is rune of protection. How many non-rune casters even remember that skill exists?

>>166724416
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112bbbeg.1a2a35435161.15243541.1f233f41516575.1125455163.657585

>>166724416
This is pretty terrible m8 >>166724479

>>166724416
I guess you want to focus on physical damage so max healing factor and bloodletting, incineration will be no good without matk.

>>166724558
Well if he's bad, what would you suggest? I'm actually torn between beak mask and blood letting.

>>166724454
>Aiming for a big numbers damage role is a dead end since they've chosen to go with extreme power inflation for new ranks.
Didn't stop Hamaya. Though thats not what I want, no. I was talking about both destruction and justice offering more than what they currently do. QC is assumed taken, but the spells ARE still a 6s cast time, massive cooldown, reagent consuming and extremely situational spells. Maybe not make them one shot the enemy but at least offer something that makes the class actually worth picking up as a solo circle rather than just a gimmick for Ice CryoKino, and now Giants Bloodcurse.

>>166724634
>incineration will be no good without matk
I'm at Lv240 Agny+Memehammer ticks 8k (conviction+resist elem) I think its pretty good.

>>166724924
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112bbbeg.1a2a35435161.15243541.1f233f41516575.1525335161

This is probably your best bet and agnceration is great even without int. It'll carry well into R8

>>166724924
Make sure when you hit R8 and party with an actual PD to not use incinerate if they have their own up, since it overwrites.

>>166725030
>>166725115
Great, thanks m8s.

I'm about to hit 317, I was thinking of crafting a Windia but someone recommended for me to take a corona to +15 and transcend that instead, saving my pract for a skull smasher. Was I memed?

>>166724784
>Maybe not make them one shot the enemy
Why hold back? You can still turn undead R8 mobs.

>>166726024
>Was I memed?
Yes.
First of all the odds to get a S.Corona to +15 is less than 1/20.
Second you'll waste Blessed Shards on a shit weapon and you'll still struggle to kill shit unless you heavy transcend it.

>>166726024
>take a corona to +15
The truth is most +15 and above weapons were made using exploit. To do that now you need to figure out a working exploit or spent shitton of silver trying and maybe you will succeed. The chance of getting a weapon from +10 to +15 without fails is 3%, and if you fail you lose both potential and 1 enhancement level.

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>>166726024
>Actually getting your Pract out of that cube.

Good luck with that, there are people who are banned for using an exploit to open that 20+ times and still did not get their Pract.

>>166726024
Memed, go for the windia if you're going to transcend. If you aren't then go for the vienanainfewionasrs mace. So you know, in my opinion, you need to be able to stage 5 the rod. Otherwise you're better off with the mace. Stage 4 is what most people say is the minimum but I say the minimum is stage 5 otherwise the mace is just more attractive. The mace gives 800-900 or so matk straight away with no investment.

>>166727072
Katz did it literally 50 times and didn't get it. What a fucking shitter.

>>166727090

Yeah, if I'm going to craft a purple 315 it's to transcend it a lot and just skip an orange. Guess I'll do that. Thanks.

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>Wind Runner [Leather]
>[Leather]
Looks pretty metallic to me.

>>166727628
Probably for balancing reason, so you don't get plate mastery bonuses.

>>166727157
>50 times and didn't get it
LOL

>>166727068
>>166726961
>Chance is way higher than getting a petamion
>It's impossible to do without hax

>>166727794
Do you have 100 S corona to upgrade and thousands of millions?

>>166727843
I have a lot of luck but not a lot of money. I've only been able to +15 shitty things but if I can get something with like 4 potential to +19, I can do it to a S. Corona.

>>166727794
Never said it was impossible. It's simply too expensive. Buying practonium might be cheaper.

>>166722367
They need to look at the other skills still, honestly ice doesn't deserve it's cooldown, Justice is garbage, destruction isn't strong enough and protection is kinda ok i guess but could need a bit of help.

>>166727923
Have fun with that

the game run just fine untill an hour ago but now everytime i open it the luncher goes off and after it disappears nothing happens, is this a known bug or am i fucked?

>>166728334
They banned you.

>>166728421
xD

>>166728334
Seems like you're playing ToS.

>>166728528
guess so
well it's not dick id at least, i'll just wait and hope it'll eventually work

What's the cookie cutter afk farm necro build? And what card do I need?

>>166728940
Wizard C3->Uninstall Wizard C2->Necro3

>>166728940
Necro afk farming is shit
An active Wiz3Link2XLock2 is way better

>>166728940
Pyro2Link2
>muh flesh cannon
completely irrelevant compared to Pyro damage.

>>166727157
actually good for him, cause that way he's gonna keep the cube. they take the practo away and your cube with it if you got practo.

>>166729071
why wiz3?

>>166729238
Because Magic Missile to actually spawn the spirits

>>166729285
so what do you actually grab at R6?
I really want to play a warlock2 to farm bees/prison and fuck with the necromancers

>>166729345
RC is getting buffed to work decently with lock Mastema

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>all the friends that came back due to rank reset dropped the game again

I mean I should expect it when someone say "LOOK I'M A DEVOSADER" and reset their Cleric1Krivis2Sadhu2Druid2 into a Cleric3Paladin3Kabba1 to "get sum NUMETA" with Guardian Saint+EinSof. But still, the other 3 had decent resets (Goon2, HopMillo, PD2). Back into looking for randoms or a guild.

>>166729071
Yeah but you actually need to play the game for that.

>>166696816
Lancer isn't shit at all, but you have no reason to go one aside from Costume, really. All the stuff people thought would be amazing, even for PvP, that Lancer did is overshadowed by Dragoon2, and most Dragoons would rather go Dragoon2 rather than have a wasted rank with Dragoon1.

are there any good, updated guides on world boss hunting? or is it a waste of time?

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>>166730875
>He wants to do world boss hunting when all the good and valuable bosses are camped by the mafias

>>166719284
>thinking you can do shit as kino when the enemy has 3 (You)s

>>166730875
1. Subscribe to hook64
2. Crash the first channel on specific map
3. Wait the respawn time (4 hours for most bosses, but can be different)
4. Come and kill it

>>166731124
how do I join the mafia, is bringing a chrono's head a requisite to join it?

>>166729345
I don't recommend wiz3 meme for bee locking
You will have a hard time magic missiling anything as the bees are instantly killed before you can even target them

You will be mostly using your dark theurge to get spirits to spawn
In my opinion you're btter off taking pyro3 for dem fireballs
Put them all over the place where the spawn hotspots are

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#213444hgg.15213551.15243541.1f21334f516575.253555.112a314651617585

Rate my new meta cancer build when RC changes hit. Its like Karga 2.0 now with exploding blimps and mega Icewall/PP.

>>166732062
so something like pyro3linker2wl2 would be the best option?

>>166731124
>2017
>doing any WB

>>166732202
It depends how willing you are to forego leveling comfyness

Truly the best build would be pyro3chrono2wl2
So you can run around alot faster (extremely good in dp2, but with a pyro build you will need decent gear for that place anyways)

>>166732307
why would you need decent gear to farm DP2? I don't understand, the mobs are really low level, don't they just die?

>>166732140
>sea monkey 2.0

into the trash it goes

>>166728334
Check if there's a zombie process, reboot, and verify steam files.

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>>166694528
I don't even play the game anymore! Ehehehe

>>166732140
IceWall 5 isn't much, it'll run out of HP before it deals decent damage, unless you have a whaled weapon.

The thing I don't like about Transpose/RoG builds is that you need a cleric to heal you up, and you need to run the fuck away from Gohei.
But hey, follow your dreams.

Whats the cheapest way to get a token in fedimian at this point?

>>166733928
Rog is double defense though, that rank in cryo lets him double dip into the shield defense as mdef cryo passive.

>>166735060
Buy if from market?
You should have some on your dead market i hope

>>166735060
erp

>>166735060
Bend over and sell that booty

odd
c2>p1>diev1>m2>miko>inqui

even
c2>p1>diev1>m1>druid2>inqui

>>166735573
what kind of shit build is this

>>166735573
>m2

>>166735060
Buy one with TP
cmon its like 7 euros

>>166735287
It doesn't really matter
Goheis will remove all your buffs

>>166735882
But I thought gohei can only remove lvl 2 buffs/debuffs

>>166733493
no zombie, did reboot, verify did nothing other than forcing me to patch the game again, it found 34 corrupt files but didn't resolve nothing

Gohei removes all these buffs
Even shit like murm/pd helmet

>>166736915
>Even shit like murm/pd helmet
Those are lvl 1 buffs

>>166736205

strips even werewolf form and murm helm, bro

mikos really want to see you naked

>>166737247
So are all your runeshit buffs

> Crash by StackOverFlow or other reason

why can't these gooks fucking fix their shit

Cassis Crista is level 99 in kTos but level 1 in iTos.

rly make u thnk

>>166737778
Funny how people also think we will get the jToS changes

fuk i'm late

>>166735364
there is but cheapest is 1,6m

>>166735409
what

>>166735771
the thing is 1 euro is 4+x of my currency :^)

Fucking crimson dog blockign the warp statue again...

>>166737610
Gohei is melee range
And so is Raise

>>166738479
who? allysse the hue monkey?

>>166738810
No, some alch I think.