/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

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First for superior Mrsshan gunners.

Dude...
>>166660904

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What do you want to get out of exploring in stellaris?

Even if I didn't have any use of aliens with a high trait value I still enjoyed exploring and locating them. So it's a little bland since 1.2 that they all have a value of 2.

Would like more interactions with more simple lifeforms on planets, and I'm looking forward to orbital habitats shown in the dev diary so I can go for a carl sagan approved game.

do you guy know how to reduce the war moggling malus in civ 6?

>>166663679
>In order to edit the warmonger values navigate
to Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's
Civilization VI\Mods\TCS Customizable
Warmonger Penalties and open the
TCS_Improved_Warmongering.xml file with any
text editor, although I strongly recommend
Notepad++.

>>166663886
no XD.i mean in game itself

>>166664204
ah, apparently denouncing before you war helps a bit

>>166664362
serously? XD

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>>166665383
yep

haven't played enough civ6 so I don't have a good grasp on the mechanics, sadly firafix forbade me from playing their new game on my toaster.

>>166668793
>stone age
You have to wait until they become bronze age if you want to observe them from an orbital station.

If you colonize that world you'll get a bunch of options. Two of which will give you tile blockers that boost adjacent society research.

> iron/machine/atomic
not sure why you can't enlighten them.

>>166669195
Im talking specifically about UPLIFT.

Guys who exists as PoPs on planets ( Iron, bronze, atomic etc ages ) can be enlightened which is suppose to be a different thing.

Stone Age guys can be UPLIFTED somehow to full on sentient species but fuck me sideways if i know how to do it ...

>>166670101
Uplifting has been specifically about presentients as far as I know.

Some people have said "uplifting" when they meant enlightenment so wasn't sure what you meant.

>Stone Age guys can be UPLIFTED somehow to full on sentient species but fuck me sideways if i know how to do it ...

Are you sure about that?
Where have you heard that?


When it comes to uplifting I have only seen it used on Presentient species.

As for stone age primitives they can turn into bronze/iron age with pops represented on the planet if you wait long enough.

Or you can get them to full on sentient species by colonizing the world and enslaving them.

>>166670605
Well there ( as far as i know ) three types of Xenos in Stellaris :

Full blown Xeno empires - one where you can conduct diplomacy, start wars with etc.

Pre-FTL species - ones that have the Iron/Atomic/Machine/Late Medieval ages, one you can observe, enlighten and infiltrate

And Stone Age Primitives that exist as a planetary modifier ...

So i have no idea what the "uplift" research is for ...

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>>166671223
>So i have no idea what the "uplift" research is for ...

Presentients.
They can be represented on planets with their own pops.

Think if aliens came to earth and there were no humans, but they found hyenas and decided to modify them so they could build a society.

Presentients have special traits that make them very useful for specific things.

Like "Proles" +30% minerals, -15% research.
As you uplift them you can add industrious and strong to them as well and they'll be very efficient workers.

Uplifted species have a +20% happiness if they live under the rule of those that uplifted them.


you can find post nuclear war earth in the game with mutant cockroaches that you can uplift

>>166671687
>Presentients.
Okay but where do i find them ?
I surveyed more than 200 star systems by now, i have met 4 civs in different stages of development and 2 stone age cultures and i've yet to see some "presentients" ...

Are they so rare ?

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>>166672142
They're pretty rare.

I haven't played since 1.2, but I think I found 2 presentients in the area of one quarter of the galaxy.

I went from system to system and only surveyed habitable worlds in the beginning so I could find them faster.

I found more but others got to them first.
I think I maybe saw 4 more presentients in the galaxy.

One of them had Irradiated as their Presentient trait, so I uplifted them with Initelligent and Natural Physicists. That way they could get the most research out of tomb worlds.

The other was a prole species that supplied me with minerals.

I was hoping to find an Earthbound presentient, they have a bonus to army damage and energy.


You have 2 techs that increase trait points by +1, and it is important(or was at least) to wait until you have both before you uplift, since if you genemod them further after the initial uplifting they won't keep the +20% happiness bonus.

>>166672142
oh btw check the species tab, sort by population and check the ones at the bottom if any one of htem could be a presentient.

You may have missed one while surveying.

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>thicc

>>166674148
Man, the female leaders aren't even fuckable anymore. Did civ 6 get -everything- wrong?

So. Which one is the real thread?

>>166674148

Thats a pretty smug queen

>>166676314
>>166676958

>>166675283
Senpai, what are you even talking about. Jadwiga is 10/10 SEXX

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Build a space wall and make the Cravers pay for it.

What exactly do the fortifications of a planet represent? Is that some kind of anti-space wall?

Is there anything different from the full version of Update 2 and the preview of Update 2?

>two breads

Where do i post

also please tell me a low-tech and non-fantasy 4x (such as bronze age), i literally can't think of any

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>>166684082
Any Civilization game...

>>166684947
I don't eat shit

>>166685190
not an argument

>Dump literally tens of thousands of minerals into my sector
>Check a planet
>Has multiple unimproved tiles being worked by pops

What the fuck, Stellaris?

guy in the other thread wants to discuss Seven Kingdoms 2, we shall now do that here
>>166686705
>>166682204

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>corner the 110 between mine and a 65k FE fleet the AE was at war with
>the FE fleet bolts
>left to face 110k alone
>giganigga ship starts one-shotting muh cruisers from the other side of the system
>don't bail because the hull comp graphic gives me an advantage
>can't touch them for days it feels like
>suddenly get in range for most of my ships
>fukken torpedoes everywhere
>their hull starts dropping alongside mine
>win with only 25k worth of losses
>also the new owner of the Rings of stability and infinity

feelsgoodman.jpeg

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Damn, all that tech and they can't even clear some fucking debris?

>>166687013
>win with only 25k worth of losses*
*out of 2 50k fleets

>>166684082
Given the OP has been hijacking conversations and seems autistitcally focused on keeping this thread alive rather than the other, let him have his fun.

>>166687694
you're a fucking idiot. why the fuck do we need a name change?

So I see gal civ III is on sale next weekend and so is all the dlc. How is it?
I was very hyped when it was announced because I really liked gal civ II. But I never picked it up because I don't like the one sided battles(one side wins, the other is always completely desrtoyed). It also seemed to have less mechanics and features then gal civ II had.

>>166689449
Also how is the 2.20 update of gal civ II?

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>>166689449
What mechanics/featrures is it missing? they've even added new stuff like mercenaries..
It pretty much is just gc 2 with multiplayer as far as I can tell, and somewhat easier custom race options.

>that samefagging
As expected from a butthurt autist.

Gonna get either Stellaris or Endless Legend. Is there a quick tldr comparison between the two at the positives/negitives for the games?

>>166689914
Outside of being 4x games, they're almost completely different?

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>>166686860
Wait, I posted the wrong picture.
THIS is Seven Kingdoms 2.

>>166689883
Weren't things like espionage missing in the base game? And does anyone know if the 2.20 update of gal civ II is any good because I might just wait for that instead.

>>166690331
OP doesn't say "strategy trash", so fuck off with your off topic trash, faggot

>>166690904
Okay, go fuck yourself then.

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>when you let the xenos in
Holy shit every time I put down a colony they just swarm over before I can even build stuff for them.

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>>166690348
espionage and admirals are slated for the first expansion....whenever that is coming out.

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>>166691982
jeez how many migration treaties do you have?
>pic related it's your wife and her son

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What do you guys think of this?

>>166691982
You wouldnt have had this problem if you'd burned the xeno's.

Serves you right ya filthy xeno lover.

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>>166694598
>not loving xeno's

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>>166687304
Fallen empires are lazy fucks, instead of repairing their world ring they're only just now building research labs to study how they were destroyed.

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>>166694486
pretty good as a wargame with some lite rpg aspects, but sort of lacking in the city dev parts. Tends to boil down to who gets their tier 3 units first but you could say that about pretty much any wargame.

it's been a while since I played stellaris but what the fuck has happened to the ai. almost every single civilization declares me rival when meeting me and just goes on a fucking rage quest to end me. for what purpose? I traded some energy to a nation I just met for wormhole rights in their favor by a few points and they accepted it and then moments later they closed their borders and declared me a rival.

>>166694486
It's fun. Not much depth to the city building aspects, but I enjoy the unit variety.

I've play Homeworld and empire at war a lot, I'm looking for something new to sate my space combat fetish.

How's Master of Orion and Stellaris?

>>166694860

With 1.5 Banks patch, you will not be able to use Xeno as cattle.

I would eat lots of fish anime girls.

>>166698047
Finger lickin good.

>>166698047

Now be able... Fuck me. Too drunk to type.

I'm looking forward to using xeno as cattle and eating them out of existence.

>>166697958

Stellaris is good.

You can literally play as Space Hitler and exterminate all Xenos.

Actually there is a mod where you can literally play as Space Nazis:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=708516531&searchtext=

>>166697958
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=708516531&searchtext=
Dunno about the new MoO but Stellaris focus is more on empire buillding than fighting.

>first game of Stellaris
>tfw regret becoming the vassal of the xenos with the biggest military
The fuckers forbid me from settling new planets and I can't fund an army big enough to fuck them and all the other vassals. How do I get out of this without losing half my planets in a war? Do I just have to hope the Forerunners decide to fuck them and make a move or is there a way to rally the other vassals behind a resistance?

>>166699572
Wait until they get into a war and rebel?

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>>166696579
again its starting. the empire on the right started out a little negative of me but I started some trade deals and was on the way towards an understanding and about 2 years in SUDDENLY RIVALS FUCK YOU HUMANITY.

I am going to burn every alien from this galaxy

>>166699640
That's probably what I'm going to do, but my shit is probably going to get slapped hard because I'm surrounded by their vassals in addition to them having a fuckhuge fleet just outside of my border at all times

>>166694486
I wish it had the city building system of Endless Legend.

You'd have to reach a population goal for each new district, and each new one would allow you to build a new building in the district's location.

What's the best ethics and traits for a full science empire?

>>166699765
They really don't like you touching their borders with yours.

>>166699572
If you wait until they're at war, and a decent war, to rebel you can win the initial secession war simply by holding onto your planets long enough. Distract their fleet by sending small parties into their own systems and avoid direct engagements if you can. But after that you've likely got 10 years to get your shit together or attach yourself to federation otherwise you're going to be ceding planets to your old master in no time.

When I declared my rebellion two of their vassals joined me but, while we all treated the overlord as an enemy, we were also hostile towards each other. An every species for itself kind of thing I guess?

>>166700860
kind of unavoidable in this game, especially when our start locations are like that.

>>166700829
Fanatic Materialist and Talented.
Duh.

>>166701025
Thanks for the input. One of the forerunners just woke up and some inter-dimensional niggers are raping people on the other side of the galaxy so I think I may have a good opportunity soon

>>166701151
Would should my secondary ethic be?

>>166699765
I don't do trade deals at first with empires I want to befriend, I do "vow to protect" which raises their trust level. Then I hit them with non-aggression pact, science trade deal and only then do I disolve the vow, which I put on the next empire I want to befriend.

With that as a strategy I can enter alliances even with xenophiles as the Commonwealth of Man. I love forming a federation called the "United Confederation of Man" with the UN of Earth.

>>166701676
Depends on how you want to interact with the game. Pacifist if you just want to build. Individualist if you don't care what your pops do. Militarist if you want to wage wars Spiritualist/Collectivist depending on what governments you like.. Xenophobe if you want to challenge yourself with drawbacks.

If I were to play the vanilla United Earth Nations in stellaris, would it make sense to enlighten and uplift:

>1) No one, and leave the the pre-sentients and primitive civilizations to develop free of outside influence

>2) Some, but only those that are fellow individualists and therefore already in line with our own ethics and beleifs

>3) All, except perhaps the most virulently xenophobic societies and heartless collectivists.

I'm looking more for what we would actually do as opposed to what the gamey thing to do would be.

>>166687694
I made this thread and I never posted in the other thread.

I have autistically kept threads alive in the past though with thinly veiled roll bumps.

Good morning.

>>166684082
>also please tell me a low-tech and non-fantasy 4x (such as bronze age), i literally can't think of any

I think there actually is one made by the civ5 dev who made 1upt and was disappointed in its implementation.

I haven't seen it in a long time though.

It had some neat concept when it comes to fog of war, it was a stylized leathery map where things could pop up in the fog of war based on rumors.
So you could see Bison in an area, and it was possible it wasn't there at all, or just a bit further away.

Not sure if it was bronze age but I think it was low tech.

>>166704664
http://www.atthegatesgame.com/purchase/earlyaccess

It's in early access apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-RQpQ3rDI&ab_channel=JonShafer

>>166704006
Depends on if you see them as the Star Trek Federation or the ultimate endpoint of modern liberals.

Federation: Study, prevent nuclear wars and destroy asteroids, but don't interfeer.

Space Liberals: Uplift & propaganda until they conform. "Like wow, collectivist much? Because it's 3227. I mean I don't even."

>>166704006
I always liked what Carl Sagan said.
Something like if we found lifeforms as simply as bacteria native on mars, then mars belongs to the martians.

So far that means you can't colonize any world in stellaris though.
Since every world you can colonize already has life on it. That will change when you can make orbitals and terraform barren worlds though.

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>>166704006
The UN doesn't really seem to have problems with animal experimentation (or Artificial Intelligence) for the most part. I'd say that they wouldn't have a problem with Uplifting.

On the other hand, they also promote the protection of natives and their willingness to not be affected and distance themselves from modern civilization.

They are also willing to talk and negotiate with xenophobic/fascist governments, even if they are the antithesis of what the UN stands for, see North Korea, which is a member of the UN.

IMO, you're allowed to Uplift pre-sentients, Enlighten Individualistic/Xenophilic/Pacifist societies, and passively study Pre-FTL civs that go against your ethos or that are in a stafe lower than Renaissance/Industrial Era.


If you can use mods, I'd recommend Ethics & Government Rebuild and Gods & Guardians.

E&GR for the new Ethics to better represent the UN (mostly Egalitarianism and Educational or Cultural roots).

G&G for the new We are Your Guardians observation post option, that lets you interact with primitive civs who are advanced enough to understand your true nature.

>>166705821
I like the guardians idea. Hate it when some natives turn their world into a tomb world just because they hit the atomic age.

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>>166705953
It's pretty cool because Guardian interactions with the primitives will change depending on their ethos and might improve or worsen your relationship with the natives.

>>166686216
The sector AI is completely helpless no matter what you do. You're better off setting the tax rate high and just removing the system from the sector when you want to make changes (you can queue up a bunch of buildings).

>>166694598
I don't even love xenos. I just want someone to work the tiles for me, and aliens are essentially just humans with -4 happiness because they can't vote. I kept out the foxes for a really long time because they're repugnant, but it turns out that it's not so bad.

>>166708156
That's why god created robots so you don't have to deal with xenos.

>>166710248
But robots want to take my bitcoins, while xenos only eat food.

>>166705821
Interesting.

So even if a primitive Medieval era civilisation was all about the liberty and xenophilia we would probably leave them alone?

>>166711407
I suppose? I might all depend on their ability to figure out our existence and their capacity to communicate with us their desire to intermingle and coexist with us.

Uncontacted tribes and the protection of their territories is a huge deal for some people in the UN.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples

>>166705821

>I'd say that they wouldn't have a problem with Uplifting.

Not sure if the UN ever adopted a stance on this but countries like India no longer attempt to contact isolated tribes due to fear of spreading diseases and also how hard opening them up to the real world fucks their society. A Space UN could adopt a similar approach

>>166711836

Didnt see this post before making mine sorry Anon >>166713417

>>166711407
>>166713417
>>166713476
Probably why aliens haven't contacted us. We're a whole planet on display for everyone to see but not touch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoo_hypothesis


>>166713476
Not for long apparently.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/08/150813-uncontacted-amazon-tribes-peru-brazil/

>>166713828
just think of the fuck-ups then

>>166705590
>prevent nuclear wars and destroy asteroids
That's very much counter to the Prime Directive. If a civilisation is to die on its own, even if all it takes for you is the absolute minimal effort to prevent a billion deaths, you still can't do it, only watch. The Feds have taken a simple, good principle of not fucking with the primitives and became absolute zealots for it.

any way to increase planet size in Stwllaris?

>>166717439
Reminder that Janeway did nothing wrong.

>>166718129
I have to agree with sfdebris' assessment that Janeway is probably the single most fun villain of Star Trek.

>>166718116
Console commands.
planet_size [number] should work.

If I purge all the xenos off of one of my planets will I be able to terraform it?

They were alright for colonizing worlds that my race couldn't inhabit prior to discovering terraforming, but now that I've decided to use some robots on a forlorn world they're getting uppity talking about succession and shit. It's time to put an end to the xeno meme.

>>166717439
This annoys the hell out of me, I can understand the stance of none interference to prevent them from fucking up the natives' lives, but this idea that you can't even guard them from cataclysmic events has nothing to do with what's best for the natives and just sounds like the result of some misguided fatalistic notions that are wholy inappropriate for a giant space empire.

Basically "Oh well, if a giant space rock is about to crush their planet, I guess that means god wants them to die". Or better "Nature wants them to die", whatever the hell that means.

>>166718395
And Gul Dukat is the best hero.

>>166718951
>Basically "Oh well, if a giant space rock is about to crush their planet, I guess that means god wants them to die". Or better "Nature wants them to die", whatever the hell that means.
Riker even refers to a 'Cosmic Plan' they might be interfering in, if they save someone, which is funny as fuck, given how staunchly anti-religion Trek was (with the new show that will likely be amended to anti-Christian, so that we can have a black muslim woman as a lead, with a Starfleet issue hijab)

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Thinking about adding more elements to compare here.

Possibly town infrastructure, overland objects, or research/power differences

>>166721391
not 4x fuck off
you have your cuck thread

>>166721453
master of magic and age of wonders 2 and 3 are 4x games

>>166721495
not in the fuck
fuck off with your not 4x crap cuck

>>166721595
You don't seem very genuine

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>>166721450
More gold from this thread

>Fun fact: The EU4 army AI essentially consists of one gigantic evaluation where each AI army asks itself 'which province do I want to be standing in' every single in-game day. It has no concept of strategy, no long-term plan, just a list of provinces ordered from 'most want to stand in' to 'least want to stand in' with dozens upon dozens of weights and special cases that have grown out of endless iterations.

>This has some drawbacks, but it also makes it incredibly robust, because it's not trying to follow some long-term strategy that might have ceased to be valid weeks ago. When the EU4 military AI breaks, it usually just does something like pick a poor fight or walk back and forth between provinces for a few days. Conversely, when the Stellaris military AI (which does have a layer of strategic thinking) breaks, it tends to freeze up completely.

>EDIT: Oh yeah, the one exception in the EU4 military AI is the naval invasion AI, which does try to follow a rigid plan, and is also the part of the AI most prone to catastrophic breakdowns.

>>166721693
do you see age of wonder in the op?
no
then fuck off and stop spamming

>>166721728
>Conversely, when the Stellaris military AI (which does have a layer of strategic thinking) breaks, it tends to freeze up completely.
I manipulated the stellaris AI to go back and forth between two systems while I conquered the AIs planets.

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>>166721728
Wait, I didn't mean to post that one.

>>166721803
Someone asked Wiz not long after the game came out something like "why isn't there an auto-explore function" and he said that it would completely break the AI and they would have to completely rework it.

>>166721728
So AI in strategy games are basically decision trees?

That explain why it's so easy to break in Supreme Commander.

>>166721893
You can read the full discussion here:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3806554&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=21
Hurry up before they throw the paywall up again.

>>166721862
what the fuck, what it even has to do with AI?

>>166721975
They should have that talk in Paradox Plaza forum so that everyone can see.

So how demanding is Stellaris gpu-wise?
Could i run it with one of those amd a10 cpu with internal gpu thingies?

>>166722331
I don't specifically, but it's fairly demanding.
Really bad performance on my toaster 200 years in.

>>166722331
Early game light, late game with thousands of ships fighting thousands of ships and missiles/lasers going everywhere? Pretty heavy.

Play it on a medium to small galaxy if you're worried.

>>166719410
>Starfleet issue hijab

I didn't know my penis wanted this until now.

I hope amplitude rolls out a hotfix balance patch for techs. With the tech tree and weapon progression as it is there's not much point for most of the military techs because you just unlock the next tier of weapons and defenses by researching them, so the special weapons are immediately obsoleted by their own research.

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Does anyone happen to have the gal civ II 2.20 update?

Anyone playing endless legend ? just got quest victory for the first time, this game is so good damn, what is your favorite map settings ?

>>166727361
Holy shit. I'm reinstalling Gal Civ 2 right nao.

This seems like a good thread to ask: can someone recommend me a settling/colonization game where warfare is either nonexistent or plays a minimal role?

To explain: my favorite part of Civ is exploring, finding resources and expanding the empire trough building new settlements. Once contact is made and conflict over space starts, it almost turns into another game. Even if you keep the peace, it's still no longer about expansion but only about improving what you have.

It doesn't even have to be about settling/colonization per se as long as exploration and location of resources coupled with improvement of assets is a core theme.

>>166730105
Colonization maybe.

You can play peacefully in stellaris and explore, but the galaxy gets kinda cramped 200 years in.


I'm not sure what the map type is called in civ5. If it was Terra perhaps, I think the description was that it was an earthlike world, so you'd have a Eurasia+Africa where all the players started, and then a wild untamed Americas that you could find. That could be a fun setup.
Or go with ynaemp and no civs in the americas, or africa, while you play as portugal/spain and have a lot of other european nations in the game.

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>>166730105

>>166730105
I was going to suggest Offworld Trading Company, but that has no exploration.

Anno 2070 is pretty peaceful, even though later parts of the campaign has some combat. It's very minor. Unfortunately it's an Ubisoft game.

>>166731548
I first thought Offworld Trading Company as well, but I quickly rejected it because it's actually closer to being a constant state of "war", since from the very beginning of the game, it's all about screwing your competition. It's just war through other means. Making a nice colony for your people is not the goal.

>Colony ship enters system
>Colony ship a few days off from reaching planet
>Enemy territory expands to include system, kicking ships out.

Is there a worse feeling?

>play stellaris
>get to late game
>lag

>>166733109
>play video games on a toaster
>lag

>>166733148
My PC is fine, the game just lags when I get into late game

>>166732662
You can play by yourself and try to make life easy for the colonist, but yeah, it's a bit...

>>166733109
You probably lag because of FTL or warp.

Hyperdrive doesn't make this lag happen

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>>166729278
Version 2.20 is basically the community patch with some improvements to the ai. But the patch notes are very brief so I'm wondering if it is a noticable difference.

>>166733109
Yeah, Paradox can't optimize for shit. The endgame lag is the reason I never finished a Stellaris game despite having played for some 200 hours

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So can I talk about Seven Kingdoms 2 or is it suddenly offtopic?

>>166736414
I'll allow it this time. But make sure you check with me before you bring it up again.

>>166721893
On the contrary, decision trees are basically worthless for strategy games. You have to have a utility maximizer.

>>166736943
I never said they were good.
I just noticed that in several games, it was easy to break the AI.

Supreme Commander comes to mind first.

>>166730417
>>166730516
>>166732662
Thanks, I'll check all of those out. But the only one that looks promising is Colonization. It's weird that it's apparently such a neglected genre. I can imagine some sort of campaign where you colonize harder and harder planets being a fun concept: you start with a friendly safe planet, develop different tech as you go, and then eventually, you can pick more difficult planets that are covered by lava, ice, or infested with malignant life forms.

>>166737226
>So AI in strategy games are basically decision trees?
Nobody uses decision trees for 4X games. Go to /rts/ if you want to talk about decision trees.

>>166737384
This is /rts/.

>>166737437
nah /sc2/ has its own thread

>>166736943
So, let's ignore the retard and continue talking.

Didn't Wiz said that he intended the Stellaris' AI to work differently?

>>166733109
>get to late game
>lag
>realize it's just because the game been on for hours
>restart the game
>lag is gone

??

???? profit.

>>166683157
Well, they're used to defend against ground invasions, so I'm guessing standard fortifications, AA guns, possibly some forcefields in the right areas, that sort of thing.

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I wish the early game of Stellaris was a bit more distinct from what comes later on.

Pre-artificial gravity ships, for one, would be a nice early problem to overcome. You could either push more directly useful techs and make do with simpler solutions, or have to make an investment before getting to juicier ship designs.

For another thing, I wish there was more of an acknowledgement of your species and how different the various higher life forms can be. Sure, you have xenophobia/philia, but it would be nice if even without those you'd have certain categories of species getting along, just because they are more alike: humans and humanoids/mammals/reptilians(?) are a bit closer and thus easier to understand than giant fungi, molluscs or sentient plants.

>>166738851

So why armies can even fight after all their fortifications, barracks and supplies are blown apart from space?

In fact, why the number of armies you can store on a planet is so limited? Its so retarded when I land armies and some of them are kicked off to space. How the fuck an entire planet runs out of space? I want my space-stalingrad meat grinders where two empires keep funneling 100+ regiments, battling sunk cost fallacy just as hard as eachother.

I also want some surface-to-space defenses. For fucks sake, its such a staple in spessh strategies. Give me actually useful defensive stations, distruptable trade routes, civilian infrastructure, importan research stations, orbitals, anything that makes stellaris "wars" more than two doomfleets crashing into eachother and the victor of the entire war getting decided right there.

>>166737801
They're fixing sector AI, which is the only part that is fundamentally broken. The fleet movement AI is pretty good IMO.

>>166739612
>They're fixing sector AI

What for ? I doubt there is even one retard that plays without No Sector Mod.

I would hope for a UI fix that allows you to autoupgrade and build shit on multiple planets

>>166730516
>Colonization
Mah man.

Paradox needs to buff Xenophobia, big time.

>>166739874
Like how what do you think it lacks?

>>166686216
Uncheck space construction. If you tell the AI to try building houses in space, it'll shit its pants and try to paint the walls with that.

Don't let it build outposts and it'll stop having a fit to upgrade planets.

>>166686216

>play as peaceninks
>uplift an ayylmao into protectorate
>dump 10k minerals and 10k energy on them, hoping they would become a vassal quickly
>forget about them completely
>check the same planet 84 mother fucking years later
>still has goddamn tile blockers on it
>working SEVERAL unimproved tiles
>literally zero extra science income, building a power plant and a military academy(double why) over the two tiles providing it
>huge navy of corvettes with T1 lasers, T1 armor, T1 reactors and empty shield slots in the era where I have already beaten two awakened empires and the unbidden

I even went back and doublechecked over a dozen savegames. They literally did NOTHING.

>>166741039
I fucking hate Protectorates unless I scoop them early enough into the game where we can both expand pretty well and it'll turn into a vassal super quickly.

I hate them so much I terror bombed a race to extinction, as a xenophile/militarist/individualist over that shit when Stone Age Primitives turned into Fanatic Xenophobe Militarist Bronze Age pops mid colonization attempt. Fucking pricks.

>Eador Imperium is out
Oh dear heaven no.
My butt still hurt from all the ass fuckery Masters of the Broken World subjected me to.

>>166741594
>new Eador
How the fuck was I not aware of that
Genesis is still the best. MotBW looked pretty but was so slow in comparison and I hated the new HUD

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Is there some good shipset for Stellaris ?

And by good, i mean something like Homeworld, Galactica, Babylon 5 etc...

>>166741039
As fanpacs I started grabbing protectorates just so I could have more influence to spend.
Didn't even want them as vassals.

>>166741832
Try the Halo ones.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=751394361

Love or hate the series, it's hard to deny that the UNSC ships look damn nice and the Covenant ones aren't too bad either.

>>166741753
You must be a masochist.

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>>166741981
Sorry i forgot to add that i already have the UNSC ships.

>those human ships make my dick diamond <3

>>166741967

But at the very least you'd expect them to be thriving little planets, not barren backwaters. I love the 1,5 changes in interacting with primitives tho. I want more interactions and fluff. I want to be able to spread my religion as spiritualist, I want to be able to spread my culture, to have gorillions of races around to modify and uplift, play around with biospheres etc. Even Spore got that down.

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>>166665383
>>166664204
>>166663679
>XD

>>166742085
Now I want a patriachy mod where all ships look like dicks with offensive names.

>>166671687
Pretty sure in this case presentients refers to things like australopithicus, not hyenas

In this case it would be something like aliens modifying highly intelligent animals like whales or dolphins so they can maintain a civilization, rather than some dumb dog-cousin.

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This just in on Wiz's twitter (https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/825031483874168833):

>In @StellarisGame 1.5 'Banks', you'll be able to change your empire ethics. Some of your Pops might not be too happy about it, though.

>>166679960
Her face isn't that great

>>166742453
>Some of your Pops might not be too happy about it, though.
Time to execute order 66.

>>166742453
This update loooks better and better by the minute. But when will it actually be released?

>>166742621
Soon™

>>166741832
Are missiles / projectiles affected by gravity in Aurora?

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>>166742621
>>166742453

>tfw i have dozens of mods
>they will all become outdated once 1.5 hits
>but 1.5 looks sweet as fuck

Fuck me sideways, those are some confused feelings i have right now ...

>>166742453
So uh, does that mean that in the long run I'd be able to add something like Spiritualist/Materialist if I didn't pick those at the start?

>>166742453

Fucking FINALLY!

>>166743092
You and me both anon. But honestly, there's so much coming that I don't mind. The modders will take a few days to update their mods, AND people will make new ones to take advantage of all the new slavery/purge/habitat/politics/rights enhancements. I'm getting more excited the more I think about, Stellaris was already above-average fun, but it keeps getting better and better. If they release 3 more big patches to fix 1) combat and wargoals, 2) sector AI and management, and 3) mid-game content, this will be a near-perfect game.

>>166742621
I can wait.

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>>166742453
But will this allow me to get more than three ethics or multiple fanatic traits?

>>166743130
If you're talking about splicing one in, but not both, I imagine so. To my understanding you can get science movements that push for materialist edicts and such, or spiritualist ones that push for relevant edicts. I would genuinely be surprised if you were able to get Spiritualist/Materialist rolled into a single empire over the course of the game, though.

I'm expecting builds now to say "start [x] then shift your ethos to [y] so you can not be shit after the fiftieth year" and that's actually kind of cool.

>>166741039
untrue, they built up to their fleet cap in garbage scows because the ai does that as it's first priority.
Said fleet then ate their entire energy budget per turn in maintenence. They probably are still sitting on thousands of energy.
YAY PARADOX AI

how would you rate these games on a 1-10 level for stress? trying to find games that keep me entertained but dont cause much stress so i reduce episodes of psychosis(schizophrenic)

currently own civ5 as well, should i play that or buy 6?

>>166744281
play Pit People, it's comfy and has turn based strategy and cartoonish characters beating each otherup with weird objects.
Just play civ on a low diffuclty , or with no barbarians, if you want to avoid stress.

>>166741039
You found the space equivalent of modern Africa.

>>166742995
no

>>166744281
4x games are very cozy. Despite being marketed as strategy games, they are by no means the same psychologically as hardcore wargames.

I found Civ 5 to be the exception, because it is designed with the idea of 'tall' gameplay, in which the player is punished for being successful. 6 is very easy, and as long as you don't get too bored it should be a very good stress reliever.

>>166694486

I liked it, but it felt like playing the same match over and over again. I didn't get much through the campaign. Also, the difficulty I found was all over the place. Such as one of the first campaign missions had a crazy hard part where you were tasked with fighting stacks of end game units with your mediocre ones. Which meant you had to rush the AI.

But overall a recommend, if you like tactical battles.

Also, what I liked was it punished you for buying buildings out with a happiness hit. It made buying buildings out more thoughtful. Also, happiness is crucial to city output if I remember the game correctly.

>>166742995
No.

In stellaris is there a way to absorb a weaker alien civ without going to war?

>>166745979
in stellaris there is not a way to do anything except go to war

>>166744281
Well that depends.

Take Aurroa for example :

Doing a 6Bn people on Earth with multiple NPR's and all spoilers on will get very intense very fast.
But starting with say 200mil people on some planet with no pre generated NPR's, no spoilers and average NPR spawn chance can result in very comfy and slow game./

DW with 999K research always makes me hard.

>>166744281
Take a turn based game and play it on low difficulty.

>>166745979
If they're very very small, you can demand that they become a protectorate/vassal, then integrate them with influence. But that's something you'll probably not be able to do unless you already conquered other stuff in order to grow big enough to do that.

>>166746057
how does multi-national Earth game usually go?

>>166744693

Civ VI makes me more stressed because of the feel of wasting the little time I have left on some shitty 4X instead of playing a good one like EL.

>>166744281
Play Banished it's comfy as fuck

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>New game
>After loads of MP games, decide to finally try an Ironman single player game
>Spawn with early space age primitives and an Enclave within my starting ZOI

O-ok Paradox

T-thanks

>>166747036
Enclaves are good.
Free slaves senpai.

>>166747036
Congrats on your win.

>>166746692
That depends on their governments, length of truce countdown etc.

Usually ends up in full on war when the truce ends.

how do you level up scientists once all planets have been surveyed? do they get xp for data uplinks?

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>>166749615
I like to think that I got XP for doing this research for you since you're degenerate who can't even use the non-4chan internet.

>>166750060
>the non-4chan internet
The what?

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Why are the Stellaris modders so much of a cancerous faggots ?
I mean there is literally one mod that makes the game slower ( PreFTL players ).
Every other is something that makes this game even faster - 2x research speed, no research penalties, start with whole home system surveyed and trash like that.

Do people really take joy in playing that game like its some fucking speed run ?

>>166750919
Modders get a free pass because they are in some way involved in game development. Even if they make bad game design choices, that's still more important and more helpful to everyone else than your decision of whether to put a power plant or a research lab on that one tile.

>>166750919
>complains about mod that slows game down
>complains about mod that speeds game up
>complaining about mods at all
more options are good, not bad, no one is making you play them, sounds like you are the cancer.

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>>166751208
>>166751269
>autist speedrunning modder detected

Stellaris is literally the first space 4x i see that has 99% of mods focused on making this game even faster.
Its like its some esport trash and not proper space 4x/gsg game.

>tfw no zero starting tech mods
>tfw i have to write my own events to start withoput ships/spaceport
>tfw same for the bonus pops/buildings

Aurora 4x still the king.

>>166751927
>Stellaris is literally the first space 4x i see that has 99% of mods focused on making this game even faster.
Are you literally retarded. Almost every popular add-on is cosmetic or changes the UI, gives options for more autistic RP, or adds things to spice up the late game. In fact, the MINORITY of mods speed up the game.

End yourself

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>>166751927
Show me a single well known speedrunner doing Stellaris.
Show me a single video of a speedrun Stellaris video period.

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>>166752169
>you
>in charge of reading comprehension

Show me one mod that makes this game slower ( except PreFTL players and its variations ).

>>166752261
>what is analogy

Niggaa..

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You will be able to mess with other empires' factions

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>>166752472
>show me a mod that makes this game slower except the most popular one that makes it slower
There's a mod that is literally called Slower Tech Progress you retard.

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You will also be able to make your defeated enemies so asshurt that they'll restructure themselves to fighting back

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>>166752713
>Empire AIs are now crude tomagotchi's you can batter and abuse or groom like a pedo grooms a child
awesome

>>166752867
Not on Skymods you flaming faggot.

>one mod
>versus dozens that make game even faster

Retards like you should be euthanize before they breed.

>>166753235
>one mod
The overwhelming majority of mods add more shit to the game and this is the case for every Paradox title, and probably just every game in general because there's only so much you can take out or add cheats for before you run out of shit to take off.

>dozens
You haven't even shown a single dozen, let alone dozens.

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>>166753780
>You haven't even shown a single dozen, let alone dozens.

Typing simply "Research" into Skymods search produces seven of them on the first page .. ( eight if you count Research Trait fix )

>The overwhelming majority of mods add more shit to the game and this is the case for every Paradox title, and probably just every game in general because there's only so much you can take out or add cheats for before you run out of shit to take off.

And yet there is still no "No ships start" mod or "no pre researched techs" mod ..

>>166754064
Why do you even want that?

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>>166754138
Because i enjoy slowest possible starts ?
Because i would like to treat getting first ship as a big acomplishment ?
Because i would like to develop my planet from the scratch ?
Because im a guy who hates to finishi techtrees and enjoy playing on 999K research in Distant Worlds ?

Take your pick.

>>166754064
>And yet there is still no "No ships start" mod or "no pre researched techs" mod ..
How would a no-ship start work? You realize that unlike Aurora you don't have a whole lot to do without being able to FTL and spessship?

>no preresearched techs
I don't even know these are a thing beyond your starting weapons and starting FTL, but you can do it yourself quite trivially if they exist by changing it around in the .txt files. If you were to take out everything you wouldn't be able to do anything until you researched them, even build buildings.

>Skymods
Nobody uses most of those mods for the most part, and you shouldn't count 'more tech selections' as 'speeding up'. The no penalties mod is one that's simply "I don't think it makes sense for research to get slower and slower the more people there are" which is a matter of choice.

You can literally slow down research in the defines file.

>>166754686
I know i can slow down research and probably mod in some other things as well.

Im just saaying that this lack of mods that slow the game and make early game more varied and interesting is suprsing for a space 4x.

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>>166754496
Take your autism back to /gsg/ you are not welcome here.
Or are you the butthurt fag who tried to change the name of the general yet again?
Either way just neck yourself.

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>>166755993
Go fuck yourself faggot, its not the speedrunning central.

>>166755973
Those mods exist and at any rate Stellaris is kind of shit as a space 4x and is much more suited for RP, thus most of the mods that add depth choose to add depth in RP instead of early game which has little support for modding capability anyway.

>>166755993
>autism is not welcome here
>he says in the general which plays C2C, FFH, Vox Populi, Aurora4x, random strategy games, has significant crossover with /gsg/, /twg/, /mbg/, and the late /rtsg/
No anon, you are the newfag.

>>166756181
You too though, speedrunning is literally not even applicable to most strategy games except as the specific strategy of rushing and you've managed to make speedrunning into a boogeyman. If you can't accept that some people play their games differently go make your own hugbox.

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>kinda want to start a new Stellaris game
>know that the next patch is just around the corner and will probably completly invalidate my game if I start now

>>166754138
Not him but I think it would be neat to start off as early space age, with a little research station that does next to nothing, and gradually get the technologies that you typically start the game with (level 1 spaceports, warp drive, etc, are all actually technologies in the base game).

I still remember doing that in Ascendancy, and while it isn't fun it is something that a lot of people want to try.

>>166756524
It can't be right around the corner since they haven't announced a launch date yet
They usually announce launches of xpacs at least a week in advance

>>166755973
I think it might be because you're kind of bound to the space part. If you play a game like Civ, you can easily start in prehistoric era and research stuff like fire, because no matter how low tech you are, you will still be able to move units around and explore. In a space 4x, you can't really do anything before you get a ship, so rather than extending the game, you're just moving the starting point with a monotonous prologue. That's why Pre-FTL works, because it still allows for exploration, while completely changing the way you approach it early on.

Most other things you can do just create pointless busywork that doesn't actually add to the game and is equally uninspired from a design standpoint as these "let's speed up mineral production by 50%!" mods.

>>166757202
>research stuff like fire
Don't forget spending twelve hundred years to build Captured Fire.

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>>166756524
It's at least a month away maybe more.

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>>166755973
Then make a mods and upload it.
Why are you raging and here on all places?

>>166750060
4chan is my only outlet for social interaction

So how do I set up defence platforms properly? If I build them in key places the ai will just go around them, if I build them at every mining station, it gets expensive. Also, how cost efficient are defence stations compared to ships of equal price?

>>166760582
Defense stations are more important for the system wide debuffs than their weapons. Other than that, they suck ass.

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I never expected them to actually listen to us

The absolute madmen

>>166763271
Those red lines indicate mutually exclusive techs?

>>166764081
Yes.

>>166764081
>>166763271
I love that but I suspect people who hate having to pick will bitch very loudly.

>>166764081
Yes, some techs were arbitrarily made mutually exclusive for "balance" or something, including ship class buffs.
Worst part is, when quests give random tech reward, it might be one of those, ruining your strategy.

>>166763271
This makes me moist.

I'll hope they'll have more options then Endless Space and Endless Legend.

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hey guys i came back after few months and holy shit that incoming Stellaris patch.
How do you feel about becoming actual Hitler?
>Detailed Slavery
>Muh refugees
>processing species into food
>lifestock species
>extermination
this is fucking beautiful

>>166756619
In that case you'd need something to do while that is getting done, unless you just want to sit there and watch the science tree progress.

Event chains that let you a bit more organically determine your starting ethics, ship cosmetics and perhaps galaxy type would be something to put in that very early game segment, but you'd need a hell of a lot more to make it worthwhile.

>>166765526
Most of it is just Roleplay. It won't fix the major issues of the game.

>>166766002
still this is fun bro, i hope one day they add planet busting so i helps with the late game stalemates

>>166765109
Random tech reward thing is obviously an oversight. Other than that you sound like a casual.

>>166765526
Unfortunately, slavery styles are DLC exclusive.

Fortunately, Stellaris doesn't have any kind of DRM

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>>166763271

>>166766002
Sectors are getting a huge revamp, Wiz stated that he basically rewrote all the sector code. If he did a decent job that will fix a massive issue with Stellaris, and Ascendancy Points should help flesh out the end game quite a bit.

>>166764858
It is mostly just picking between 'do you want to use bullets/missiles or lasers/beam' and 'armor or shields'.

You can easily make up the difference or skip the techs entirely with just the generic weapons you get from advancing in the military tree, especially since the ones on the right side increase how many ships you can have in a fleet.

>>166765526
I'm looking forward to the ethics changes actually. I glad that you can finally change ethics mid-game and that democracies will finally be mechanically different that oligarchies.

>>166769750
Not him but why should those techs be exclusive then? I don't see why armor and shields are mutually exclusive technologies. In fact to me it sounds more like they'd be competing technologies, and at most it'd be a case of 'you can't put both on the same ship'.

>>166769405
>If he did a decent job

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>>166766662
i don't mind paid DLC mate since Paradox announced they are making motherfucking Werewolf: The Apocalypse WoD game.
I forgive everything they did to me for now

>>166760582
Put it right next to the sun. Then when the enemy warps in they're stuck at the center of the system and can't warp to anywhere. At most, one per system. Using them to protect individual mining stations is farcical.

The other way to use them is to form a "death lotus" of several stations around a planet. With the spaceport there, the whole group can keep the enemy busy so that your fleet can warp in.

None of this actually matters, because military stations are always worse than ships. It's too bad, because they're kinda fun, but I'm too autistic to do anything that I don't think of as optimal gameplay.

>>166771498
>Werewolf: The Apocalypse WoD game
I'm not familiar with this and a quick google brings up a GURPS wiki. One question since I don't have the time to delve into wikis right now and I can never be sure about this.
Is this furshit werewolves or RIP AND TEAR werewolves?

>>166770737
It is mostly which resource you want to use more of. Kinetic weapons and armor are titanium and beam weapons and shield are glassteel for instance. Generic versions of those still exist.

>>166772289
It's rip and tear SJW werewolves versus evil meanie satanic capitalists, enjoy

>>166763271

ES2 looks dank

>>166772289
Werewolf Apocalypse is the same world as Vampire the Masquerade/Bloodlines.
So many people are expecting a lot, with me as well

>>166772445
>rip and tear SJW werewolves versus evil meanie satanic capitalists
>rip and tear SJW
>evil meanie satanic capitalists
I honestly don't know how I should feel about this

>>166772653
I never played those games and know virtually nothing about it

>>166772780
>I never played those games and know virtually nothing about it
nigga...
are you underage bro

>>166721391
>>166721453
>>166721495
>>166721595
>>166721750

Wut? Age of Wonders is 4x. Hell, it's probably more 4x than Stellaris which at this point is getting more and more grand strategy.

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>>166772780
Yep, they rip and tear but they also take mushrooms and get naked to cast magic
The clans are all over the place, theres nordic fashys and power hungry shitlord clans, but there's also getle magical abo/injuns and a clan that is basically just homeless people
Petex Corp is basically a mister burns plot merged with that demon city anime, google "Black Dog" games
here's a little taste of how edgy WW was before they went full faggatron mode, also guaranteed to get you reported in /tg/

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>>166773574
>exalted
brah
>>166772780
pic related basically summarises Vampire the Masquerade
http://store.steampowered.com/app/2600/

try it out, it is a good vidya

Can space combat in Stellaris be made fun? Right now it's obviously just blob vs blob, but are there any good ways to fix that?

>>166773407
Is 22 considered underage in this context?

>>166773574
oh alright, that actually sounds neat.
That pic though man what the fuck.

>>166773929
I've always heard good things about it I've just never actually played it. Maybe I'll pick it up soon.

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>>166660942
I really wish that planets and stars moved around their solar systems.
It seems surreal that they have their orbits traced our and that they still serve no purpose.

Military stations should also require to be linked to planets and stars so that they follow them around the system (unless they are placed outside on the system, where they will stay stationary.

>>166773574
>"Black Dog" games
Hol the fuck up. Is this the same universe behind the Hunter:The Reckoning games?

If so, consider me hyped as fuck.

>>166774714
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter:_The_Reckoning
yup, same universe

>>166774473
At some point they were probably meant to move around, but then Paradox realised that would involve actual work.

Also the explanation as to why the fuck there aren't more shenanigans with nebulae, natural wormholes to act as shortcuts between segments of the galaxy, or a whole bunch of other fun things to spice up the gameplay.

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>>166775008

>>166775142
here's the official article on paradox site
>https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/en/white-wolf-partners-with-focus-home-interactive-for-a-video-game-adaptation-of-the-world-of-darkness-storyteller-game-werewolf-the-apocalypse/

i'm hyped for my werewolves bro

>>166775040
>Natural wormholes to act as shortcuts between segments of the galaxy.
Sounds like a nice bonus for Wormhole-using empires.

I'd be really cool if there were special nebulae that actually sped up the speed of ships with Warp drives, or faster and much longer Hyperspace lines.

>>166775341
>won't ever have a chance to react the battle of the Mutara Nebula
>or to develop the Genesis Device, for that matter
>or have a chance of over-mining fucking up your moon and making you have to abandon your imperial ambitions as you scurry to get that shit fixed

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>>166775341
Nebulas are the sci fi equivalent of mountains/swamps, they are always used as barriers. There should be cool events that only pop up from moving thru them, or hidden resource pockets or something.

>>166756524
probably not coming until march the earliest

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>>166752713
>you can play as space George Soros

Banks when?

>>166778741
I wouldn't mind having space nebulas naturally attract Spaceborne aliens or simply spawn more inside of them at the beginning of the game.

I'd also be cool to have more content related to Spaceborne aliens in general.

>>166775040
The problem with orbits is that the positioning of objects matters during war, and if everything's moving it would be next to impossible for the player to plan any sort of system incursion.

>>166778741
>nebula effect that fucks with shields (possibly slows you down as well)
>build a fortress right in the middle of it, to catch anyone entering into the system in its thickest part
>warp in your long-range fleet and proceed to shoot the everloving fuck out of your shieldless enemies as they struggle to move or shoot accurately

Also, if you introduced a whole variety of other environmental factors, plus some new techs like wormhole-based enemy FTL redirection (i.e. as they exit warp or hyperspace, a trap directs them into a pre-loaded wormhole for the worst conditions), you could both make the game fun, and give some functionality to fortresses.

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>>166779537
>>166779495
fund it

>>166779537
>>166778741
>>166779810
Too bad the AI will forever be too retarded to appropriately design a strategy around this.

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>>166779894
Not with that attitude it won't

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Hmm, interesting population mix you've got there. HMMMM....

>>166781874
Probably their xeno zoo.

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Have I won yet? Necromancer first game and I caught the goblins to the south unaware in a 6v2 so they lost their throne early meaning I could just pup out cheap goblin units to take over everything else.

>>166782678
if there's no city founding go for it. if there is settle in for the long war, the ai will drop cities all over.

>>166782832
Yea Im only on teir 3 units at the moment but if I just pump it out I have enough buffer that I can go into full building mode. I mean the huge research lead I have over everyone else, due to tier 2 research buildings in all those cities, should push me through. And city founding should be for underground because above is packed.

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>>166783000
>get underground
>it's goblin Calcutta

>>166783746
Its literally my first game. Is there like an army coming from the bottom? I might just win before I get down there so...

I haven't been here all day, have you watched the CIV VI devs make terrible decisions and not know how to use their UI today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYoFgUTmCVQ&t=1227s

Stellaris or GalCiv 3?

>>166784161
If thjere's undergound enabled, there's a whole second world map, and goblins love being underground sooo......yeah be prepared for a slog.
The good news is, you can secure the overworld and try and bloc the gateways with your best armies while you get a bunch of high tier stacks ready

>>166728741
I'm playing it. On default settings though. With which faction did you win?

>>166784962
pirate both

>>166784962
stellaris

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>be a poor science nation
>wraith kills the special science aliens
>this finally happens
>energy glut but nobody to give it to

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>be peacefully exploring my galaxy just researching and chill
>suddenly fanatical purifiers declare war on me
>defend myself and protect my galaxy by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>166789664
Genocide isn't the answer anon.

>>166789664
You have to jsut siege their planets until they die, not wipe them out the conventional way. Then its an OOPS they should have surrendered sooner thing.

>>166789664
TOP KEK I LOEV THIS MAYMAY

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>>166790087
Then you get slapped for 'terror bombing'.

>>166790309
Unless its changed since the last time I played, which was a while ago, you get a 40% chance to kill a pop with no negative because you were just siegeing their planet. Maybe they saw it as a work around so they fixed it but I would go full military just to get free planets without their pops on them.

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>planet is an energy farm with nothing but synth pops
>somehow a synth went on a killing spree and killed people

>>166791643
The government building is probably staffed.

Yeah a pop represents a billion people. On the planet scale there are probably plenty of individual people of any species.

>>166792090
>>166792328
Fair enough

>have aliens as livestock
>somehow they produce more food than you put in

>build a space habitat
>somehow you can mine inside it

What's wrong with Wiz?

>>166792707
Habitats need constant resupplies and have shitty mineral output.

>>166794363
How is it that something that you had to build from scratch has the ability to produce any minerals at all?

>>166792707
more better food

I think you mine from the planet that the space habitat is orbiting

>>166794446
Solar powered energy-matter manipulators.

>>166782678
Forgot how pretty aow3 is
I need to play it again, elf campaign in vanilla turned me off though

>>166797052
>campaign
Random maps are where its at. Also Goblins are the best race.

>>166790309
>>166790409
Terror bombing goes off whenever a pop is killed, not based on what level of bombardment you're using. The bombardment level means killing a pop is more or less likely is all.

>>166794446
>>166792707
>build a space habitat
>somehow you can mine inside it
You can only build a habitat over a planet (not moon), you get less minerals than if you put the mine on the planet itself.

>have aliens as livestock
>somehow they produce more food than you put in
Farmers who grow crops for themselves, then you eat the farmers plus the surplus crops they grew.

>>166786442
I miss playing as dwarves in AOW 1 or 2 and having those mining machines to dig tunnels everywhere.

>>166742453
Really looking forward to the update, especially the slavery/species upgrades. I just hope they rebalance ethos/governments again, I hate some of the changes they made.

Does anyone know a human portrait mod for Stellaris that would fit a tribal human culture?

Looking for something piratical but what limited mods there are for human portraits all make them look really clean and futuristic.

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>>166801062
'Halo Universe Human Species' has two new 'species' of humans. One based around the UNSC, which actually looks pretty cool and I use to replace the default human empires in Stellaris, and these guys, who are supposed to be Ancient Humans.

>>166801550
Cool, that does look pretty good. Kinda techno-tribal.

Thanks.

>>166801550
tHAT ITS RACIST?!111111

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>want to declare war on some niggers to bring the dragon hoard into my territory
>after half a century of repeatedly pushing this particular empire's shit in with on and off wars, my allies suddenly don't want to fight them anymore
>figure it might be because we're already at war with one of the planets liberated from them
>go to look at what was going on
>the entire might of our pooled military (minus my fleets) is sitting there bombing the shit out of this one planet with limited ground support
>fortifications are long gone
>several armies are mixed in with the bombing fleet but aren't landing
>have to fly my psionics and bio-engineered xenomorph battle beasts a quarter of the way across the galaxy to occupy one shitty planet with average defenses at best
>war is over the next day, ending the endless bombing
>mfw gaining genocidal reputation
>mfw they still won't let me go to war and get my planet

Those ungrateful bastards already were starting to think I was genocidal when I completely destroyed the only fleets capable of resistance our previous enemy had at their capital. I think it's time to double my armada and begin the galactic xeno purge.