/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

Post progress or your mother will die in her sleep

>>166603702
That's actually a really humane alternative.

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>>166603702
o-okay mr anon sir

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>>166603702

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>>166603702
OK - but my progress is full of spoilers.

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>>166603905
the part I marked in red, that looks like wasted space

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Working on soldiers. Rifle is a work in progress.

I can't believe that people would try to post Source in /agdg/.

>>166603806
I will continually be triggered by the improbability of that costume staying up

>>166604150
Your colors are a bit too saturated.

>>166604261
she pushes it back up regularly tho

>>166604150
Teach me the ways to make a TBS fampai

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Anime will save agdg, anime is progress

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>>166604261

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>>166604172
>he literally posted this as if its progress
lol. just lol.

>>166604261
>not knowing about tittyglue

>>166604378
Wait is that what her fucking hands are doing when she is running?

>>166604436
Hello C-kun.

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Dark Syde Phil has to beat the game you're currently working on.

how fucked are you.

>>166604261
its the future. Could be cybernetics for all you know or holographic clothing.

>>166604436
Anime is the Scylla to Sourceposting's Charybdis.

>>166603492
Why use such a disgusting op? Get that 3dpd shit out of here.

>>166604526
close, but no cigar

Still willing to do art for a game if we can just get past all the meming

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>>166604450
not progress

>>166604483
nope, shes just jogging. People have inferred from the animation that she is keeping her boobs up.
I kinda like that idea.

>>166604562
he's gonna start crying and complaining 2 minutes in, mainly because i'm creating the later stages first to get an idea of all the mechanics i'd like to have in my game

>>166604642
>if we can just get past all meming
post art

>>166604432
You are not yet ready, young no dev

>>166604642
>not the first time posting in the thread
>not posting portfolio to prove you're not meming yourself
Go right ahead, all up to you.

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>>166604617

>>166604775

n-no

>>166604740
Exactly this meme. I would like to know about a game before throwing out my contributions, which I give a lot of effort to.

>>166604895
Let's turn it around, faggot.
Instead of trying to get people to post first and then turn them down, post your criteria.

>>166604562
I will personally send this fucker a copy of my game just to watch him play it. I hope he doesn't kill himself before I get the chance.

I want to make a game about my biggest fetish (it's non-pornographic), but I can't decide how to go about it because of how complicated the art assets would be. I need ideaguy brainstorming on how to make a good game based on TF, especially inanimate. There are a few good, popular examples but they're all text-based games for the same art-asset reason, and I don't want to make a text-based game.

>>166605005
>But anon it's just posting your game.
>Why are you so afraid?
>It's not me who is the memer, it is you!
>I don't owe anyone anything, except that I'll keep posting in this thread no matter how many times people tell me to post art simply to take a dump on it!

>>166605129
end your life you dumb memespouter

There is literally nothing wrong with Game Maker for 2D games

>>166605129
Nobody wants to collab with such a difficult faggot. Fuck off.

>>166605129
A company won't post an ad for "must be non-cripple" people. They post "must know C++ and SQL, experience of 3years+ with database management".

Why is it so hard for you to say "Giving out art, won't work with GM, Unity, UE4, Godot, Monogame, and Construct 2".

Could it be because you are a memespouting faggot that has no interest in doing anything related to gamedev?

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Hey. You. Do you even have a game? Have you ever made a game? Are you even a game dev or are you just here to be heard by game devs? You're not my friend, I'm not here for your bants, I come here to be with game devs therefore it isn't my intention to interact with you or be around you, so stop talking to me. Stop trying to entice me into friendly little chats about nothing in particular. I don't care.

See this? It means nodev stay out.

>>166605364
>Implying I'm >>166604895

I'm not. I'm just getting all of his empty and ridiculous statements out of the way so that he has nothing left to say but >>166605242.

Of course he'll be back somewhere later in the thread 'just to make sure nobody wants art' and will call it the 'final time he's posting' or whatever, despite showing up soon after in the next thread and so on and so forth.

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>>166604562
honestly i would pay DSP to play my game just to idiot proof it. he's an extremely valuable lets player because his thought process is so purely retarded.

So is anyone looking for art or not?

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>>166604562
very.

>>166605585
>>166600643

>>166604562
Ain't his type of game. Also in its current state, nobody would know what to do. Even finished though, no fucking chance he'll do it.

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> 4 people asked to collab with me

>they don't know my game is actually shit and it only looks fun

>i told one of them i would contact him in a week with things he could do

>i stopped working on it 8 months ago.

Post your code samples then

>>166605585
what kind of art. 2d or 3d?

Are there any free image editors for making pixels? Anything better than paint is fine for me.

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I'm still struggling against gamepad support (game maker)
I'm trying to make it so you can pick up the controller or switch to the keyboard whenever you want, but i'm having some issues with it

>MoveX/MoveY variables that substract the left/right and up/down key press values aren't working alongside the left stick: while the keyboard works correctly i can only move left and down with the axis
>I can't figure out a way to make the aim work with both the mouse and the right stick because the mouse overrides the stick and I can't ignore the mouse position without turning it off

are there any good workarounds for making this work without stepping on eachother, or should i just add a big INPUT: KEYBOARD AND MOUSE / GAMEPAD and make players choose?

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nodev since 2013

>>166606245
I have experience with both, which are you looking for?

>>166606245
He won't say until you post your game and then he'll tell you he's not interested while also continuing to not tell anyone what he can do.

It's nothing more than a ruse. Don't take the bait.

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>>166606223

>>166606258
aseprite
i'm using the free version and it's the shit

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Making really good progress. Been working on the intro area. I'm building this NPC character that hangs out there. Throughout the game she encourages you, gives you tips, heals you, ressurects you when you die, etc... She also helps set up your overall goal in the game (to find the four shards of the mother prism). Just don't attack her or you will be in for some shit.

Theres also going to be some alternate endings depending on if you kill her, free her from prison, leave her trapped, and so on.

Art for the NPC is temporary!

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>>166606223

>>166593452
Sorry for this late reply, anon.

I have two tiers. Basic at $5 a month, with access to stable builds and some discussions/polls. Advanced is $10, with everything basic gets plus more discussions/polls for stuff like gameplay and character designs. They also get unstable/test builds if I want feedback on a new idea. If you're gonna use Patreon for gamedev, remember that people are expecting a game for their money. They want playable demos and posts showing off new content. Don't spend more time engaging them than you do making game, but don't ignore them, either. Keep the majority happy, or they'll take their money elsewhere.

Next, like you said, this kinda shit
>Pay $$$ and you get to design something in the game!
is super common on both Kickstarter and Patreon. Since I've seen how it usually only attracts demanding fucks who offer nothing but bad ideas and shitty porn OCs, I decided against it and said so on the front page. Like a year later, a long-time patron asked me when he got to design content for the game, and I said never. He went on a tirade about it.
>It's my RIGHT for my character to be in the game!
>Every other Patreon offers this!
>My character is in THREE other games on Patreon!
>You only want money!
>I can report you for fraud, you know! I laughed so hard at this bit, btw
I told him tough titties, and explained it'd been in the FAQ since day 1. He spit a slew of shitty comments, called me a scammer, and then cancelled his support. The moral of the story is: When running a Patreon, be ready to deal with entitled assholes who demand you enjoy the smell of their farts even more than they do. All that being said, while there's no unspoken rule that you HAVE to let anybody paying you be a part of the game, it's still nice to throw SOME kind of bone to your supporters. Talk to your backers, play it by ear, do whatever seems easiest. Their name in the credits is usually all any normal person wants.

UNREAL

or

UNITY

>>166606840
CryEngine is the only way to make game.

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>>166606840

>>166606840
DEPENDS

on your

GAME

>>166606348
eh

>>166606337
probably 3D. i put my game on hold though.

>>166606840
Source is pretty good
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Main_Page

>>166606840
No need to ask for popular opinion, just look up the numbers. Unity is the #1 game engine used by the most devs.

>>166606840
I very much prefer UE4, but if you're new to game development you'll probably have an easier time with Unity.

Then you can switch later

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>>166606223

>>166606914
>>166606929
>>166606970
real answers only please

>>166606276
Historically, Game Maker has had atrocious controller support, going all the way back to its earliest versions, and that still hasn't changed. The least painful solution is exactly what you said: allow the player to choose only one input mode.

>>166607137

what the fuck am I looking at lmao

>>166607172
Lumberyard is the only way to make game.

>>166603905
i really like the look of this what kind of a game is it

>>166607172
Some of the most successful games were made with Source

>>166607239
Think of it as a point and click horror themed single player board game.

>Fed up with Unreal
>Start up Unity
>Start to get comfy
>Remember if I ever release a game it will have that Unity logo splash
>Shut down program
>Back to Unreal

>>166606665
Is she a ribbit like F-chan or something else (or a secret)

>>166607238
>>166607278
sorry not interested in meme engines thanks

>>166607364
>ever release

You can just pay some money and it's gone, anon.

>>166606276
problem 1 sounds like shit on your part, consider posting code
problem 2 can be bypassed through having a hidden switch - if you flick the right stick, you turn on the analog aiming mode, but if you move the mouse into the game area, you switch to mouse aiming mode
the solution to problem 2 might help you with problem 1 too
>>166607179
if we choose to ignore the fact it's xinput, it's not terrible now

>>166606956
Well then why are you wasting my time?

>>166607137
>unsafe
!!!
Hello fellow rustacean! Piston or glium?

>>166607559
Win32 and Vulkan

>>166607342

I made a horror board game in a game design class and I wish to make a vidya adaptation

>>166607364
Vanity is for little girls.

>>166607383
Well, Frauki is a frogling. Hence her sick jumps. The NPC is a cyber-goddess, materialized with greenergy. Made up jargon is cool.

good night /agdg/

>>166607701
I wish to be the little girl!

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>>166606723
if it works, it works

>>166607803
Sorry Unity is for men.

>>166607849
Shit attitude.

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>>166607615

>>166607849
>, = .

>>166607990
is this mei?

>>166605818
>drinking adult drinks and using the adult sticks
That gif disgusts me.

>>166604150
So are you full-on cloning Advance Wars or just studying its art style? If it's a study, nicely done, but if you're trying to make a clone of Advance Wars' gameplay, I wouldn't also copy its art style.

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>>166603702

>>166607498
That's true. But, if we're being smart about it and don't choose to ignore the fact it's xinput, it's still as terrible as ever.

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>>166607910
the modern limiting factor to software speed is disk I/O, which is out of the hands of the application level programmer, deal with it faggot

>>166608448
I'm not even talking about performance. That being said, that's utterly wrong when it comes to gamedev.

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>>166603702
Just making hair sprites anon.

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>>166608283
i was going to shitpost but then it was too cute.

>>166607498
>>166608393
What's wrong with XInput? It's standardized so you don't have to deal with all the various layouts. If a player doesn't have an XInput controller, they'll already be using x360ce, SCP, or some other emulator/driver anyway.

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>>166608576
I'm trying to make more 2D art all week really.

Progress on a WIP camp fire

>>166608640
standarization is good, but there's also the fact a shitton of people is stuck with discount controllers from 6 years ago because they don't feel like spending a literal fuckton of money on xbone pad (jesus FUCK that thing is expensive) (xbox 360 pad is cheaper but only a bit)

>>166608787
>If a player doesn't have an XInput controller, they'll already be using x360ce, SCP, or some other emulator/driver anyway.

>>166608857
and that's where you're wrong

>>166608283
Dead People aren't allowed to post here.

>>166608921
If they're not (because apparently they don't play video games with their controller) then they're going to have to suck it up and use it.

>>166608739
>>166608283
I thought you said you weren't doing 2D art and just spending time on deving unless you do a kickstarter?

I seriously hope you're not.

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Things I haven't added today:
>Gameplay in general

Things I have added today:
>Lights apparently

FUCK
real talk though I'm on a creative low so I'm using my time for the more technical shit until i get ideas for backgrounds and enemies and whatnot because i'm sorting out exactly what kind of areas I want to make

What's the best engine for text-based games? I want to export into .exe

>>166609030
ncurses

>>166608949
>they're going to have to suck it up
And that's the problem with XInput. Nobody should have to mess with third party shit just because Microsoft strangled the market.

>>166609030
Best? Inform 7, hands down - accept no substitutes.

>>166609091
Well it's not exactly your game's fault. Tons of other games assume XInput so it's unlikely they're not already using something like that.

It's also beneficial to the player because they can get nice, standardized, graphical button prompts (all gamepads look more or less the same even if they don't officially support XInput).

>>166609030
>engine for text-based
Lol

>>166608519
how is "if it works, it works" a bad attitude?

>>166609282
I dont know what else to call it. Program? Plz don't bully me.

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>>166609030
Text based as in what? ASCII? CMD shit? Because you can do a lot in straight text menus as is.

>>166608739
Those look like badly rendered models, not 2D art. I don't mean that as an offense, I like your game Bokudev, but this is just bad.

>>166609336
Because you will write shit code and thus probably give up when you realize you've made your own job exponentially harder. Code needs to be maintainable if it's not something that you work on for a week or so and never touch again.

YandereDev is still going because his Patreon depends on it, but I guarantee that he hates working on the game code.

>>166609362
Mm. I'm not sure. I want to make a game that revolves around choice. Where the player has the freedom to do whatever he/she wants. Prostitution, Knight, Thief, Blacksmithing, Housewife whatever. I want the player to be able to kill, help, rape, ignore, whoever they want regardless of where they are. It's gonna be a shit ton of writing and work, but I want to figure out what which program I should use now before delving into one thing and realized I've wasted my time only to switch to another program. I've used Python in the past on an unrelated project and have started with twine, but Twine is kind of ass. I came here hoping you guys might have some more insight on the matter.

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>>166609494
I feel this is not an issue with programming itself, but with planning. If you were to plan out your game on paper first, in terms of states and functions, you would be able to code as you go, but within a framework that would make it easy to modify later without Le Refactoring May May. And then from there, with your code that stems from a flowchart with associated functions you drew and mapped in pencil, even if your code is not perfectly optimal, at least your program's general flow will be, and it will be able to accommodate changes you make down the line since it was designed to do so from the start

>>166608448
Hahahahahahahahaaha

>>166609875
There's nothing wrong with text adventure type games, and you don't have to go into stuff like ASCII maps and the like. As for your description, I have a big fat "eh" but do what you're going to do. You don't need an engine at all if you're working with text, but you will want one if you're doing ASCII.

>>166609336
>>166609494
And even if you do persevere, your game will inevitably be ridden with bugs that are nigh unsquashable.

>>166609895
Planning helps, but if you ever need to change plans you're back at square one because planning to write bad code still means you have inflexible and unmaintainable code (but it's rigidly following your plan instead of being rigidly an absolute mess).

If you write good code you won't need to waste time planning (yes, waste) and everything will remain flexible and maintainable.

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>>166610039
be care full of who u make fun of in Highest School's

>>166610048
Engine may have been the wrong term, I'm not very experienced with the field, so pardon me if I slip on some terminology here and there.

What is a more welcoming community for artists getting into gamedev?

>>166610282
None. This is as good as it gets.

>>166610261
Just straight code can do what you need to brah, but I would suggest actually learning how to program before you start. You're going to hate yourself if you start right in on something that needs decent organization like that.

hahaha stupid (main character), you are so weak, you aren't even worth the effort necessary to end your life

>(main villain) at the beginning

oh no, how could this have happened? how could i have lost? i tried literally everything

>(main villain) as he is about to die at the hands of (main character)

>>166610282
None really.
Big communities are too big for anyone to bother helping the continuous stream of noobs, or paying attention to anyone but the best devs.
Small communities generally don't know shit.

I've been programming for about 15 years, and professionally for about 7. For me, the simplest solution to a problem is nearly always the best one. All the fancy stuff people try to do and teach is mostly useless. As long as you can correctly factor your code, there won't be a problem. By correctly factor, I mean into coherent modules, functions, and lines. It doesn't matter what tool you use to accomplish that, classes, objects, files, etc...

Also, the correct approach to building out a feature, is to implement the absolute simplest version of it possible. Then, you start adding distinctions and nuances until it does everything you need to.

>>166609357
It's called "programming"

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>>166610056
>planning to write bad code

>planning to be shit at something

"git gud"

>>166610436
Cringeworthy to the level I wouldn't even bother shitting on games that use it ironically.

>>166610575
That's what you're implying, retard. You can "code as you go" while keeping everything flexible and maintainable if you WRITE GOOD CODE. You don't need planning.

>>166610436
literally the entire Resident Evil plot


>we could have just collected Battle Data™ from the mansion but then we decided to just go around fucking shit up until we died as both a corporation and as the literal people staffing it

>>166610436
I can tell you're going to be a problem. Let's just kill you right now. Alright, great, that's taken care of.

>(main villain) at the beginning

Good thing I killed that protagonist.

>(main villain) as he is about to accomplish his goal

- excerpt from "A boring story that nobody will read"

>>166606276
here's what you do anon: you dev your game for only keyboard and mouse, then pull a binding of isaac
>tell players gamepad support is coming
>patch game for """gamepad support"""
>but just to add text that tells players to go download joy2key
>frequently promise """true gamepad support""" "soon"™
>never actually bother to add it, though
>put it into the game's overpriced rerelease so you can shill it for consoles
>tell owners of the first game to just buy the rerelease if they still want gamepad controls, lol
>never ever fix the first release of the game
>let army of sycophantic youtube personalities tell fanbase they're entitled
>swim in money like scrooge mcduck

>>166610650
>You can "code as you go" while keeping everything flexible
ive seen first hand that this falls apart within about 90 minutes by hanging out with my coder friend who wanted to "learn" gamemaker

in the span of literally one evening he went from writing rather good financial software to "Clamp? What's the le fuck a clamp?? brb coding gravity on a timer triggered by jumping"

Thought on the Irrlicht engine?

>>166603806
>doesn't know what metroidvanias are
>calls it a cybervania
nice meme my friend
>inb4 temp name

>>166610915
Pretty good. Worked with it when we made Star Ruler, granted it was heavily modified from source and this was back in 2004.

>>166610871
>you can write good code after one evening of practice
This is why you start with small games. You write the code you are capable of, you finish the game, and then you can leave it all behind and be better for the next time.

YandereDev evidently skipped this process.

>>166610915
Literally named after a phenomenon intending to lead you astray.

>>166610915
Good if you want to make a game with Quake/HL1-era tech.

Anyone need a writer?

>>166610871
>coding gravity on a timer triggered by jumping
My sides

>>166610987
>>you can write good code after one evening of practice
he's a graduate --or at least has a masters or a LOT of technical degrees-- who actually works for a real firm that writes accounting software of some kind, and he himself does the front-end stuff. At least, that's as far as I can tell from his work stories. I don't work at the same place. I do navy stuff

Nigga should have had literal years of practice.

>>166611104
literally nothing wrong with that. Anyone telling you otherwise is a peasant who can't even ski.

>>166610436
I'll do you one worse, anon.

Hahaha, you're strong, protagonist! However, my dark power is too great for you!
>main villain at the beginning (before removing all of your upgrades)

Now you're not even worth my time! Hahaha, I'll leave my minions to kill you!
>main villain at the beginning (after stealing all of your upgrades)

I see you've reclaimed your powers, but you're still not match for me! Hahaha!
>main villain at the end (after you've collected all of your upgrades)

Noooo!! H-how could... this.. have happened?!
>main villain at the end (after you've totally killed them because they somehow didn't just fucking use their dark power to remove all of your upgrades again like they did at the beginning of the game)

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I'm an artist.

>>166611387
yes Doctor who could use a good episode, it's been a while.

>>166611415
ill be honest, my bro was smart enough to implement gravity globally, but per entity, but at least not as a function of jumping. things would just gain downwards acceleration unless they were touching a platform. Not as all-encompassing as I'd personally like, but I hate coding, because I hate coders

>>166611464
Well, a beginner to game making might not understand that you're supposed to numerically integrate across game loop iterations instead of doing things analytically based on time. That doesn't make them a bad programmer, because that's a reasonable thing to do in a lot of cases.

Though GM doesn't really allow anybody to write good code. Unity, on the other hand, is decent.

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>>166611387
No thanks, I am my own writer. And my own artist. And I guess my own musician if all these folks who offered to contribute for free or pay continue to now toss anything my way.

>>166611549
You're telling me, m8. I'd love to write for DW, but I'm A) not at that professional level and B) not British. Probably the only show I'd act in, as the Doctor. But that's never happening LOL.

>>166606665
"Just break out of the cage with your huge hands, you lazy, whiny bitch!"
>>166608059
Nope, it's Chell.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtUfc_dWgAAVVjQ.jpg

>>166611637
>unity is decent

their ECS is really kinda shitty, as is the physics engine, you basically need to replace both to do anything complex

Anyone wanna do some coding for me?

I'm trying to make a simplified Recettear, where you play as a cute smith crafting cute things.

lots of talking, some cuts of turn based combat and making a crafting system is what I'll need programmed.

Let me know if this sounds difficult, I'm pretty much an idea guy at this point, but I can take care of all the art assets.

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>>166609474
what about without outlines?

>>166611492
The hero shouldn't fall for the same trick twice!

Then again the handful of times I've seen this personally, they don't bother addressing it...

>>166611464
>literally nothing wrong with that. Anyone telling you otherwise is a peasant who can't even ski.
Nobody said there was.

>>166611605
>Not as all-encompassing as I'd personally like, but I hate coding, because I hate coders
Why are you trying to talk about programming, then?

>>166610115
That's actually pretty good! Do you post your art anywhere else?

>>166611748
The cage is made of super-unbreakium. Not gonna happen.

>>166611937
>Why are you trying to talk about programming, then?
Programming itself is easy, it's just a matter of RTFM for anything that isn't webdev. The problem is the people.

It's just a poisonous, toxic culture.

Programming itself is easy. It's either a flowchart or a markup language for 90% of games, even modern ones, since modern ones are still mostly platformers and text adventures.

But it's the people. They're just garbage to be around. Programmers are the type of person who'd refuse to use a coffeemaker because the button is an oval instead of a circle, or refuse to open a box because it's taped along the front instead of across the sides.

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>>166603492
>All the games and movies on my desktop keep distracting me from gamedev and programming in general.

Can a cheap laptop handle Gamemaker?

>>166612329
If it's not ancient.

>>166612290
What did the mean programmer do to you, anon?

>>166611746
shhh, listen
Just like write show man.
Also, new season when
Supernatural new season when
Adventure time new season when
Rick and morty new season when
These are the only good shows

>>166611637
>Well, a beginner to game making might not understand that you're supposed to numerically integrate across game loop iterations instead of doing things analytically based on time.

Then they're stupid. And they'll learn to do otherwise once it takes a month for an object in their game to behave as intended.

>all this talk about bad code
>tfw I know my code is spaghetti and I'm in a desperate race against my scope to finish without breaking it

>>166608997
Looks good regardless. Keep pushing through it and you will find your muse. At least you are actually working on it in the mean time instead of using it as an excuse to get away from the project like some.

>>166612290

this whole post sounds like a narrator's script

DIRECTED BY HIDEO KOJIMA

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Spent all week trying to get started with Unity to convert the idea to 3d. Much more frustrating than I remember. Hopefully I'll be able to make some more progress with the 2d aesthetic.

>>166612329
if my 1st inspiron dell could, i'm pretty sure almost anything can.

>>166611828
Nah, fuck off.

>>166612374
It'd be new, I just don't want to spend more than 300-400 dollars because I'm on a budget. I figured I could get an external hard drive to handle most of the storage.

>>166612467
>AT
are the new seasons good, i stopped at 5

>>166612620
oh then yeah, if you get something new and cheap you'll be fine

>>166612620
If your doing 2d then this could work: https://m.newegg.com/product/index?itemnumber=N82E16834332113

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>>166612596
Well that's pretty much the answer I expected anyway. Learning code on my own for 8 hours a day since a few days ago, just wanted to ask once before I study balls deep. Anyone got suggestions for design?

>>166612290
This anon has attained a commendable level of saltiness

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>>166612395
Well, the most recent example
>I used "Floor" and "Ceil" wrong
>bny saying "wait instead of using two if thens for keeping a value in a range cant you floor or ceil it in sequence"
>but making the mistake of using "floor" and "ceiling" to mean "The lowest and highest of the domain of a function" instead of "the next lowest integer" and "the next highest interger"

>but milliseconds later, correcting myself to say "ok well i basically mean clamp it, just clamp the value, surely there is a function in GameMaker Script to clamp tings to a range, surely you don't need two if-thens, and not two if-thens as primitive as 'if less than x make it z' "

bit then he looked at me a retard, made fun of me for whole real minutes, and only stopped when we got to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamping_(graphics)

and then said "no theres no function for that" and continued on

because it's such a fucking foreign concept for a FUCKING PROGRAMMER to CLAMP A VALUE and its so unforgiveable to ask HEY IS THERE A FUNCTION IN THIS THIRD PARTY LANGUAGE TO CLAMP A VALUE

btw

https://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/002_reference/maths/real%20valued%20functions/clamp.html

but thats just the most recent

>>166612678
Fuck yea man, the plot is incredibly thicc each season finale just fucks my shit up enormously.
Keeps getting better each season.
Grass sword's insane, wonder what's gonna happen in the next season with that ending.

>>166612941
>floor
>ceil (literally not a word)
>clamp
These aren't things in GameMaker. Are you retarded?

>>166612926
it's not hard it's just gonna take a while to do all the ifs with the crafting and shit and the menus.

>>166612941
Please leave
You must be 18+ to use this website

>>166612941
Yeah, you got a fucktard on your hands.
How does this mean though that all coders are fucktards?

>>166612547
Love it. Have you gotten the parallax to work yet? I bet it looks nice with all the extra layers you have now.

>>166613162
Yeah, there were a ton of tutorials on youtube that explained crafting systems that I can pretty much just copy, but I just wanted to see if anyone would handle the coding side so I can focus on the art side because there is a ton to do. I plan to do full animation, not pixel animation. I have experience making full on cartoons so I'm not just spouting bullshit things I can't do.

>>166612395
>write an FB post
>"WHY THE FUCK ARENT YOU USING REACT" followed by a flame war about how React is obsolete

>original post was something about a funny-looking kitten

>>166611828
That's exactly the project I want to work on, and I was trying to code it but I can't draw. Are you a shitposter or for real?

>>166613472
I posted my preliminary sketches
>>166612926

if you want to work with me we can discuss it by email or something. But I'd really like someone committed.

>>166613302
other than my own father, a luddite like myself, I've never met a coder who was any different. Not in web dev or actual application coding.

It's why I abandoned software in favor of architecture and level design when I was, oh, 11 or so. Playing UT2k3 and Gran Turismo 2 with thin client and front-end web page programmers teaches you quickly that programmers have no idea what they're talking about but have a lot of very strong and yet unfun opinions.

It's also where I learned that computer people in general aren't necessarily good at vidya. They could rip shit at UT but only for practice; none of them could race for shit even against a literal child.

>>166612781
Neat! Thanks for the rec!
>>166612707
Cool, hopefully I can actually get some work done. Thanks!

>>166613398
do it alone, it's not hard, it will take WAY less time than making art, like you've said, you can copy, not only the code of the youtubers but also the code you copied, it's really just a matter of copying the code after you set it up.
Besides, full profits!
although i don't think that many people are interested in that kind of game

>>166613472
>>166613616
Is this the end of the shitstorm? Please be real.

>>166613616
email [email protected], I'm very interested. We can talk details, and decide if there's promise from there.

>>166613762
>>166613616
Best of luck, you two.

>>166613718
Incorrect. The shop-/innkeeper genre is severely starved of content. There are dozens of us awaiting a new title.

As an aside, I am also looking for a collaboration. I am an artist.

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>>166608739
Progress

>>166613868
>lucy-promises-not-to-pull-the-football-out-from-charlie-browns-feet.wmf

>>166613672
Aren't you too big for your britches, friend?

Have your ever met a CS guy, like a real Computer Scientist? Have you ever tried Coding?

>>166613731
I really hope they're real too. I really want to work on a crafting shopkeeper game that gets that recettear / powerstone-2-item-crafting feeling. Real cozy shit. But what's been stopping me is I can't draw. Been trying to learn how and holy shit it's hard.

Art is really hard. Art is really fucking hard anon.

>>166613868
See how quickly collaboration was made when you just post art, shitposter kun? With your ideas, no less!

>>166613849
key word - dozens.
It's not as popular as your everyday rpgs so the playerbase is quite small, although i imagine you can't not be successful if you make one.

>>166614036
well, uh technically, nah

>>166614036
naaa naaah

>>166611872
It looks way too blurry. If you're going for that look wouldn't it be easier to set up a 3D scene and render it into an image?

>>166614324
>>166614394

Alright, I can see I'll have to teach you how to be CODERS!

>>166614494
You seem like the kind of person who unironically puts "ninja" or "rockstar" in their job title

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I've hung out with mechanical engineers, with electrical engineers, with technicians of all other sorts, I was brought up by a seamstress turned administrator and a web developer who'd be at more ease in a daycare as a tutor than an office as a software lead, and all my friends now are a combination of politicos, theologists, one orthopedist, and a bunch of very generic engineers.

CS people are easily the worst. I'll admit that I have no skills, all I do is source crap, but CS nerds can't even be humble enough to say "all I know is [X Library]" or "I prefer [Y structure]".

Even admitting basic shit is hard for them. Just to say "I don't know the map of this area" or "I don't know what beer is cheap here" is visibly painful to them.

It's disgusting. The most tragic part is that they're not useless. They're needed. But they're so self-important and assume that no one else could possibly know anything about their trade, so they're impossible to even be friends with.

>>166614637
you actually got pretty close there. If you ever see some retard indie dev claiming to be the KING of videogames, that's me for sure. It's gonna be great.

>>166614640
I think you're just meeting low quality people. You see, in programming, there's a very fine line after which the quality of person goes way, way up.
----- Years of experience / lead positions (15%)
-
-
-
------ First job/Freelance gigs (75%)
-
-
------ This is graduation. 90% of CS people make it here.

The people who are actually good, and make it to the top, are the people who arent' afraid of admitting ignorance, because they know that admitting ignorance is the first step to learning something new.

>>166614637
Those are, unironically, the programmers who make over 200k

>>166615084
>programmers
no, you're thinking of software developers. "computer scientists" and "programmers" these days are all pajeets subcontracted out of the middle of nowhere for dirt cheap
anyone can hack out code, the people who make real good money can plan, organize, structure, and design code

>>166615184
These terms are all interchangeable, friend

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Reminder that Visual Studio 2017 is fucking tired of amateur devs using the wrong naming convention.

Capitalize your methods or we're going to have a problem.

>trying to get into xna
>constant temptation to just fire up unity because everything is already done

have I become soft?

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> the people who arent' afraid of admitting ignorance, because they know that admitting ignorance is the first step to learning something new.

I fucked up. I at least know now that Floor and Ceil refer to rounding. I'm still waiting for an apology on what it means to clamp something. And I know it's never going to come because coders are garbage human beings.

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Alright, it's kinda crude and I have some things to fix, but gamepad support is officially IN

I'm going to sleep now, cheers

>>166615184
please, software engineer is just what programmers call themselves to sound prestigious

software architect is a real title. programming is not engineering.

>>166615282
except they're literally not

>artist anon hasn't contacted me
b-back to /ic/ I go..

>>166615723
>software architect
"Software Evangelist" is where it's at

>>166612076
Well, fuck. Nothing else to do but go on a magical adventure, I guess.

>>166615932
Fuck off, birdmath.

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Yet more diplomacoding! That's right, up to 21 string concatenations, but it's not called every update so it's probably okay.

>>166616000
Unsure what this meme means.

>>166615723
architect and engineer mean the same thing

>>166616140
FUCK OFF BIRDMATH

>>166616274
Is this like an always sunny reference or something?

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>>166607849
If literally anybody else has to use the code, or you forget how it works after a month or two of not looking at it and then have to scroll through a 2600 line function to find the place where you should put a new feature, it doesn't work

>>166616140
It's having a meltdown, don't worry.

>>166616129
could be worse, could be yandere sim
10000 STRING COMPARISONS EVERY FRAME

>>166616415
Does he have the entire game's code in one fucking script?

>>166616129
That's not inefficient in a real language like c++ if you call reserve at the beginning

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Recap where?

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>>166615952
That's the spirit!!!!

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Is it okay to tell an employer you can't work on their game because you'll be deployed?

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>3 years ago
>make a shit engine
>get called out by an engine programmer who knows what he's talking about
>take personal offense and develop hatred for him
>make no effort to improve because it can't possibly be you that's wrong
>make a game with a 2600 line update method in one class
>rake in the autismbux because it's an anime fetish simulator

he sure showed that guy

So I have a lot of really cool ideas for an MMORPG, where should I start?

Life is fucking beautiful mates

>>166617054
Learn networking

>>166616787
kys youre selff yankee

>>166606665
>>166616678
Does Frauki have r34? Asking for a friend.

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>>166617275
pls do not sex the frau

>>166616140
He shitposted in here and /ic/ with a tripcode and name "birdmath" in 2015 and got caught so now he spams about birdmath and calls people that to false flag(?) anons for catching him in 2015.
Yep.
Game dev.

>>166616935
Some people simply can't learn to program
It's honestly impressive that he's able to get things done with such limited ability, though

>>166617473
How many layers of false flagging are the shitposters in this general on?

>>166617473
What is it with sourcefag and being so interested in all these things he's bad at? Music, level design, math and science, art and drawing, programming. It's sad when you think about it really. He's opinionated and shitposts about everything but doesn't really know anything. A fool.

>>166617473
What? But 2015 was 2 years ago. There's no way.

>>166617580
first day on agdg?

>>166617473
>now he spams about [person] and calls people that to false flag(?) anons for catching him
why the fuck is this something I see in generals all over 4chan

>>166617576
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

>>166617629
I've been here on and off since there wasn't even a /vg/. I guess I missed a few things in my gap. Is it just one dude? Is it the same dude that's been leaving weird stalker messages in the feedback form on the tools site?

>>166617580
Yes, there's a way.
The guy legitimately has schizophrenia or something like that.

>>166617580
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/boards/ic.vg/username/birdmath/
Yes way. All sourcefag. 2015, it's not a meme when we say he's been doing this for 2 years.

>>166617580
>januray
2015 was actually only one year ago, 2016 is that year

>>166618034
2015 to 2017 is two years. What difference does it make? Just make game.

>>166618095

>Just make game

teach me how please fampai

HELP

i want my game to have nice graphics but tilemaps and lighting in godot are a fucking pain and dont perform well together

do i make my own engine or just keep prototyping until 3.0 comes out with the new renderer

>>166616935
>make a game with a 2600 line update method in one class
You still can't admit decompiled Unity scripts are different from how the developer has actually written them can you?
Sad!

>>166618274
Explain to me how a decompiled script is different then
Does it combine the update functions of every instance of every monobehavior in the scene?

>>166617845
Nice find. Sourcefam trips as birdmath. Confirmed.

>>166616935
>>166618274
Decompilers for Unity will dump coroutines and other functions into the update even though it wasn't coded that way. This can make for massive update functions to decipher if you're trying to reverse engineer code. Anyone critiquing a programmer by his decompiled Unity scripts is a retard.

>>166617527
There is no false flagging in here.

It's just the same idiot shitting up this general because of a butthurt burn from 2 years ago now, and maybe 2 or 3 occasional idiots going along because they are retarded, think they're funny and also think they're in good company because of the spam.

In any case anyone posting this dumb shit ironically is nothing but just a genuine retard.

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>Suddenly want to create a sci-fi game
>All of my assets I've already created are fantasy/medieval

>>166618682
>There is no false flagging in here.
Be quiet ignorant child.

>>166618274
>Sad!

Please leave, reddit.

>>166618779
time for space elves

>>166618274
C# bytecode is structured and even object-oriented. Not much changes from the original code except that it's stack-based and not register/variable-based.

>>166618779
You can still swing that just fine, anon.

>The townsfolk of this world are prisoners who were sentenced to death. Now, their memories have been wiped clean and new false memories have been implanted of a medieval-esque world.

>Their actual job is to terraform this planet, slowly but steadily - that is their new prison sentence. Looking on, from the shadows, is a cabal of officials who ensure that the terraforming is going according to schedule.

Just gotta open your mind to the possibilities anon. "Why is this world medieval despite the setting being sci-fi" and so on. Stop thinking 'it can't be' and starting thinking 'how could it be'.

>>166618660
Anyone who actually uses unity scripts for functionality rather than making an engine that uses regular classes and merely links to unity GameObjects as necessary to move objects in the scene that gets drawn is a retard

>>166618965
Oh, and if I may intrude on this story snippet once more: obv. the cabal of prison officials portray themselves as Gods. They've got advanced tech at their beck and call and what seems like magic words to the commonfolk is really just sysadmin commands.

Just another measure of control in the vagaries of fantasy that they're putting on the prisoners.

Birdmath just FUCK OFF

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>>166618779
Poor anon, whatever should he do.

>>166618950
>>166619002
That's cool and all but where is your game?

>he doesn't manually control his update cycle

>>166618782
And there you go again. You've been here shitting up this thread just because you're mad that your attempt at gamedeving was absolutely shit 2 years ago and everyone told you so.

2 years anon. 2 years. You've been doing nothing but shitpost in this general for 2 years. This clearly shows what kind of shitty life you have.
And the most sad part is that you can't even see that everyone in this general can clearly identify any of your shitposts attempt on sight. You're mentally deranged and I feel sad for your parents.

Reevalute your life.

>>166619141
Do not ever issue a reply towards myself again, you contemptuous fool.

Wow. I can't believe people would use source here.

>>166619212
>""""people""""
ftfy

>>166618779
Dude have you ever played Strife? It's a sci fi game mixed with medieval shit.

Just roll with it anon

>>166619084
>no reply
kek

>Watch a let's play of Resident Evil 7
>Realize they did that idea you had of having a few repeating but strong enemies you fight multiple times
>You had this idea since you were in Elementary School

Times the games industry ripped you off?

>>166619492

Resident EVII you mean

>>166619492
>few repeating but strong enemies you fight multiple times
this has been a thing since video games started anon

What are some sites with useful tips and tutorials on gamedev?

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what am i missing?

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Slow but steady progress.

>>166619605
Youtube

>>166619621
https://hastebin.com/omolujowud.coffeescript

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>>166616571
Right here friend

----[ Recap Complete ]----

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[ 500 - 999 ]

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140 -- Monolith ... (x1.5, 28 streak)
130 -- Skylarks ... (x1.5, 26 streak)
80 -- Throbot ... (x1.5, 16 streak)
65 -- Clarent
45 -- Cybership
40 -- 23/Prometheus ... (x1.5, 8 streak)
35 -- [Placeholder Title]
35 -- Super Space Jam Jetpack Robot Turbo
35 -- VikinGirl RPG
35 -- Not a School Shooter
30 -- RAD Ross ... (x1.5, 6 streak)
25 -- 3DS FPS [WIP] ... (x1.5, 5 streak)
20 -- Bout O' Wizards ... (x1.5, 4 streak)
20 -- Autumn’s Gesture ... (x1.5, 4 streak)
20 -- Ctesiphon ... (x1.5, 4 streak)
20 -- Elemental Knight ... (x1.5, 4 streak)
20 -- Project M ... (x1.5, 4 streak)
20 -- Maid Game ... (x1.5, 4 streak)
20 -- Scavenge ... (x1.5, 4 streak)
20 -- Locked Masts ... (x1.5, 4 streak)
15 -- Metanoia: The Sacrifice ... (x1.5, 3 streak)
15 -- Vampire's Bit
15 -- Mech Game
15 -- Gumball Spiral
10 -- Frost
10 -- Catgirl Pool Party
10 -- Rune Revolver ... (x1.5, 2 streak)
10 -- Halcyon Daze // Neon Knights ... (x1.5, 2 streak)
10 -- NipNip ... (x1.5, 2 streak)
10 -- Slimepix ... (x1.5, 2 streak)
10 -- Project Murder Party ... (x1.5, 2 streak)
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10 -- Ghost Knight Victis ... (x1.5, 2 streak)
5 -- Grand Classic (name tentative)
5 -- Elements Torn
5 -- Shooter Man
5 -- Tempest
5 -- untitled danmaku
5 -- Mercenary Leto
5 -- Ancient Saga
5 -- Spaceship Crew Self-Defense Simulator
5 -- wizMUD
5 -- Wicked Charm
5 -- jamos
5 -- Fungus Amungus
5 -- Futacubi
5 -- Untitled Campfire Game
5 -- Whimp the Bold
5 -- Everwell
5 -- Low Lands

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Notice something wrong with your entry, score, or anything else? Let me know and I'll look into it.

>>166619692
excellent

>>166619628
Make the turret lead its shots.

>>166619605
Gamasutra

>>166619621
A game, nigger faggot.

>>166619729
Nice! Thanks for doing this every week!

>>166619729
You're a saint. A saaaint.

>>166619212
>source
Not People.

All this shit talk about CS people ITT. Damn.

I'm a senior in CS at a university in the south and while this has been my experience in maybe 10% of the cases, these types of people definitely aren't the majority. Most of us are semi-normies who just liked vidya in high school and had no clue what CS was about until freshmen year, and the majority don't act pretentious. What's funny is the autismos and pretentious snobs are often much worse at what they do and end up asking us questions.

Of course, this is the south, so I guess everything's a bit different.

>>166619605
https://www.4chan.org/vg/agdg

>>166619651
I'm getting really tired of shit like this.

Look, you sit there patronizing me right now, but you forget one crucial fact: I have drive. You're nothing to me but just another obstacle, another goddamn barrier to crush, because I have drive and motivation.

What do you have? What are you motivated to do??
Oh, that's right - you're motivated to shitpost. That's it. You're a hub of ineffectual nothingness and incompetence whose existence has been reduced to whitenoise shitposting.

I just want you to remember that, while you sit there grinning at that shitpost you just made. You may be ahead of me now, but my god you won't be for long - not with my drive and motivation propelling me.

Within a few years you'll be seeing my name up in lights and on the big screen, assuming you can afford one, and you'll erupt in desperate clamor, saying "Oh, I know him! I shitposted him all those years ago in /agdg/!" You'll cling to that fraying association because that's all you have. You'll be nothing.

>>166619975
>it's the cs kid blog show
Nooo :(

>>166619621
Here's the nuke it from orbit pastebin.
>http://pastebin.com/cyxNAhtF

It's a nuke list so be aware that you're going to have a good amount of false positives.
Then again anyone using any words from this list is not worth your time and 90% of the time don't post progress.

>>166619801
I routinely check Gamasutra but I guess I haven't been looking hard enough.

Thanks.

>>166620014
See >>166620024

>>166616935
Is the enginedev rich too? If not, then yes, he did show him.

>>166620036
Fair enough, I'll come back with progress.

>>166620123
the technical gdc talks are pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdN06E6Xn9E

>>166620104
>80% of the filter is sourcefag's terms for himself and danny
Yep that seems about right.

>>166620197
the enginedev in this case is mike Z
he's got them kickstarter dosh

>>166620381
Oh, well nevermind then.

>>166620024
Nice pasta faggot but I wasn't joking when I said Youtube.

>>166609336
Because "it works right now" doesn't mean "it will always work."

>>166620621
That wasn't a pasta faggot.

And if you were being serious, link me ONE good Youtube tutorial on gamedev.

You can't.

None of them go beyond absolutely bare bones shit.

how many of our vidya have had any reasonable level of success

>>166620884

Mind the fedora, but I really like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbm9lPB5GPw&list=PLucfbVosdV4b-NrIqYLeanflHwRmkDId9

>>166620884
If you were more specific than 'gamedev' and weren't crying like a fag I would be happy to. There are plenty of resources on Youtube if you know what you're looking for. If you really want '''premium''' content then get some Udemy/Gnomon courses or something.

You didn't even give enough information to recommend you something specific.
>What engine?
>2D or 3D?
>What skills do you currently have?
>What genre of game are you trying to make?
etc

>>166621085
>our
"our"

>>166621085
Not a huge number - but that's pretty fair. It's hard to make a big splash in today's market.

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progress :)

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>>166621085
http://www.homph.com/steam/

Anyone who has a finished unity game: how many lines of code did you ship it with and what is it?

>>166621085
http://www.homph.com/steam/

>>166621319
This list is quite incomplete

>>166621216
My immediate intent was something lightweight, like a text-adventure of a 2D adventure game, but I feel both of those can be done on almost any engine so I didn't feel it necessary to say.

I also don't see why I said what I'm already good at. If I only want to make games that I'm comfortable with I'm not challenging myself and improving, am I?

>>166619628
Instead of this >>166619771 make it over correct for it's shots. Basically the same thing but it won't feel like an aimbot.

>>166621312
>>166621319
i havent been here in years, thats alot more than i expected...i was thinking like 3 games...

>>166621430

Nice progress, man. loving the game

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tfw you find old progress while organizing your files
fuck why did I drop this

>>166621312
Working on shipping mine. Looks like I'll have about a hundred lines of code or so. It's a point and click 2d adventure/choose-your-own hybrid.

>>166621390
Well if you say what skills you already possess it's easier to point you in the direction of resources to help with your underdeveloped and lacking skills innit.

But if all you want to start with is something lightweight like a 2D text adventure then just follow the 'barebones' tutorials and they'll be more than enough.

>>166621392
>>166619628
It's not even automated yet. All it's doing is aiming at the mouse cursor. That's all it needs to do (as these are for the player) but AI will definitely need to know how to lead shots.