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Previous Chapter: >>166546730

>[Rerun: Prison Tower's Howling Demon of Vengeance]
http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/ezqrc6/
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170125.php#nav

>News
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaUHCxrWXRo
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- New ver - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- Upcoming animation update for remaining F/SN Servants
- Half AP main story missions until February 8th
- FGO PS4 VR in development: http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/rswcrc/

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Grand Time Temple Solomon and General Profiles Translation
http://pastebin.com/yP9nRYZM

>Fate/Grand Order Material Book III
https://www.mediafire.com/?e97zcwaov6noys2

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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Xth for best archer.
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>>166570997
What makes it an asspull?
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Will we ever see the three of them together again?
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>>166571173
Turkeyhandle is dead so never
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Thanks to secondaries there will always be a war between FSN and FZ
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Dead game
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>>166571173
Five years, when the next carnival starts.
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>Originally there was going to be "Shinji route", an option to accept his invitation to join forces in the Fate route, players would have gotten to see a bit of Shinji's good side. But with the tight schedule with the deadline has forced them to cut it
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>166571114
Just butthurt Cufag/Arturiafag that can't accept a shitter defeated them using brain and tactic over sheerpower
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This is your Quetzalcoatl for the day
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>>166571308
some of the deleted scenes restored for the UBW anime right?
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>>166571402
They are made to be Onee-chans
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>tfw I have better taste than 90% of this thread
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12195376/
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>>166571472
No
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>166571603
I remember hearing that Illya's flashback was planned content for the Illya route and that Nasu wanted to do more with Kuzuki hence the big chat with Archer before Shirou, Rin and Lancer show up at the church.
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>>166571565
feels good to be part of the 10%
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>>166571716
It wasnt, the new Illya scenes were just pandering to Zerofags as the director wanted it to be a Zero sequel. The Kuzuki was like 2 minutes ripped out of Hollow Ataraxia.
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I finally did it, lads.

I unlocked... The Strongest Servant.
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>>166571930
Cute Beast
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>>166571565
Feels better being in the 0%. What's the pool about this time?
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What's THE BEST King Arthur story?
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What if this is the welfare for Saber Wars 2?
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>>166572068
This one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMxWLuOFyZM
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>>166572068
Fate/Zero
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>>166572228
my dick cannot handle this much fetishes anon
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>>166572068
Excalibur
Alternate timeline Lancer Mode when
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>>166572228
Then I'll play the event instead of skipping it like I did with the first one.
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>>166572068
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>>166571904
>an Illya flashback is somehow pandering to Zerofags
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>>166571930
But that's not Gil, Herc, Saber, Enkidu, Void, Solomon, King Hassan, Scathach, Achilles, Karna or Saver.
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>>166572280
>nasu wanted to integrate the 4th hgw into fsn but abridged it instead

would it have become the longest VN ever made?
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>>166571676
I hope Nobu and Okita are in Extella 2
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Who need Dantes when there is already superior SSR Avenger around.

Jeanne Alter dread
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>>166572424
Yes, the shit with Iri and the grail mud was Zerofag pandering. The flashback in the VN itself was already extensive enough.
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>>166572541
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>>166572541
Someone with good taste might need him
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>>166571402

"man this one doesn't have anything special but her true form"
>those eyes

MUH MUH
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>>166572407
best boy
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>>166572429
Well yeah I said Strongest servant, anon.

Not Jobber Servant.
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>>166572647
>can't even kill Archimedes with her NP
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>>166571402
When we will get Fafnir as servant though
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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>Zero was a good prequel
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It's been about a month.
Why didn't you protect his smile /fgog/?
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Can I hope to see less Jeannes in my All support slots now?
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>>166572697
> Killing your butler

That'd just be silly, anon.
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I want to gently cut the pay of whoever retarded DW employee thought it was a good idea to introduce a new challenge quest so we have something to do but not enable it day 1 and laugh at his misery with my daughter.
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>>166572541
What if I have all the avengers ? and the rulers too
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>>166572804
Is she putting her heel in Tamamo's butt?
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>>166572407
>ayo hol up
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>>166572574
How else were they supposed to show Acht indoctrinating her? Just show him telling her that Kiritsugu was a fag and never loved her or Irisviel?
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>>166572794
No until I get him
But I'm trying my best
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Li Shuwho knows what's up
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>>166571308
There is some info on how Nasu planned the Illya route h-scenes from interviews though; there would've been Leysritt paizuri.
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>All Avengers have non interlude damage nps
Maybe it's a class feature.
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>>166572701
After Kanna
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>>166572994
>No EAM
>shilled by a shitter who isn't as skilled as Karna

sure
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>>166572960
THe episode was emotionally dull as fuck. The atmosphere was not portrayed correctly, Illya/Berserker bond was understated, most of Winter Forest context was missing and most of filler additions non-canon and pointless.
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>>166572905
Gotta get vengeance somehow, anon.
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>>166573108
How can it be non-canon if it is written by the original author?
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>https://twitter.com/hrncgmn/status/823843130902384645

what is this jap meme referencing?
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>>166572994
>shilled Sanzo
>shilled Nezha

Did he just existed to wank other chink?
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>>166573043
To be fair, Karna's a high bar for skill.
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>UBW 2014 was a good adaptati-
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>>166573043
Your boi Karna's next.
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Do we know how much Sakurai working on Extella? How much of Altera was Sakurai?
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>>166572647
>>166572804
>>166573150
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I'm having a day where I just feel mad as fuck at everything. What's a good way to alleviate anger?
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>>166573325
He then proceeds to lose to Karna and laments how Karna is more skilled.
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>>166573297
Why weren't Fate fans happy with it?
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>>166573362
Altera was all Nasu

Sakurai was Nero and Tamamo
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>>166573362
Altera was Nasu, everything else Sakurai.
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>>166573375
Fap to a doujin of a character you hate getting raped
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>>166573325
Habanero?
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>>166573297
WTF I LOVE MIURA NOW!
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>>166573043
>Karna can't even defeat Gawain without Numeral
>Lu Bu btfo Gwain without Numeral and forced him to back off even when he has Numeral
Kek
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>>166573325
>he hasn't played Karna's substory

Li straight up says that Karna's more skilled than him and laments that he'll never live it down that he lost. He doesn't even blame powerlevels, it's pure skill and Karna's conviction that Tamamo is worthy to follow.
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>>166573297
>those fonts
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>>166573375
Kill someone
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>>166573043
>gawain gets fucked by lu bu during this stage
>karna praises gawain's skill

what did he mean by this
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>>166573371
Liz works on Liz Logic, silly Mathman
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>>166573560
Karna is a nice guy?
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>>166573476
>things that never happened

Besides, Karna's never gone against Numeral Gawain with his armor.

>>166573560
Karna's a nice boy who doesn't want Gawain to feel bad.
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>>166573428
>Sakurai was Nero
I remember the
>Nero was Nasu in Extella it's not Sakurai
shitposters now
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>>166573468
-UBW changed from the awesome gears filling the horizon, swords as far as the eye can see and mist covering the ground to a grey hill with a few swords.
-The Last Stardust scene would have been pretty good if they had immediately followed it by Shirou getting his resilve back and started charging, but instead they decided to pad the fight for yet another ep, and they almost completely missed the point of the fight on top of that
-Archer was supposed to take the shot for Shirou, representing that he was willing to leave it to him
-Cut Gil not attacking Rin because losing Saber meant losing a pleasure he wanted to thoroughly savor. Gil decides to kill Rin, then he decides not to, then he decides to pick up where left off with Saber, then he just leaves
-Shirou jump 50 feet in the air and deflect all the swords by hand
-Angra Mainyu doesn't immediately begin to swallow Gil when Saber breaks Shirou's RM (Excalibur was the reason the bubble didn't hold, so to speak), instead, an extended scene plays out that makes Shirou look like an incompetent for not finishing Gil off and infers both Angra Mainyu and Archer are there to save his shortcoming
-Final ep was supposed to demonstrate that Shirou was going to be different from Archer since he is supposed to metaphorically take more steps than Archer did. And then what ended up in the episode almost implies the direct opposite.
-michael bay shaky cam, excessive usage of special effects, rapid cuts with minimal animation, and that weird Naruto like exaggeration of movement
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>>166573560
He was trying to make him feel better about being a shitter
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>>166573668
someone post the page from Fox's tail
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>>166573297
2bqh f@m the biggest fuck up was not correctly portraying why Shirou used his 2nd Command Spell to stop Saber from attacking Caster.

Caster was about to kill Taiga there, that's why Shirou used his Command Spell, but Miura made it look like he was just an idiot. Clearly not a Fate fan, otherwise he couldn't have missed something so critical to the story.
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I just see that no last words are said by the enemy servant who are killed by the King Hassan's NP. This isn't a bug, is it?
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>>166573476
Jinako forced him to use his NP on threat of CS, which leaves him weakened. Leo comes out at the end of the fight and says that Karna would likely win if his master had helped at all. It's a case of world's best master against world's worst.
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>>166573560
>gawain gets fucked by lu bu

He only resists a Galatine blast to the face.
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>>166573375
Play Katamari Damacy
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>>166573108
>Illya/Berserker bond was understated, most of Winter Forest context was missing
While I can agree on that, you should remember that in VN Heracles is basically the narrator in this flashback. So just voicing his thoughts about how he shouldn't attack wolves and by doing so cause any pain to Illya wouldn't be a very good idea if they're trying to make this flashback more about Illya, would it?
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>>166573362
All I know is that Altera and Archimides are Nasu's.
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>>166573507
Why would Karna think that, even though Tamamo time and again proves herself to be complete garbage at the job?
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Is Karna husbando material?
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>>166573668
Karna never sugarcoats things
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Why is Gawain such a shitter lads
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>>166572697
Archimedes tanked multiple NPs from many servants
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>>166573771
He kills them so hard they can't even say last words

It is a bug
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>>166573771
Hard to say anon.
First weeks when he was released there was no last words like its an instant kill.
Then there's words again during dango
Then there isnt since dantes event
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>>166573560
I like how every character gets an excuse to be OP in some stages but Lu Bu's excuse is "It's motherfucking Lu Bu"
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>>166573950
Did he try to pursue Lu Bu?
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>>166574007
> Not even in his best class

Lu Bu do not pursue
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>>166571930
>>166572647
But can she beat Saber Venus?
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>>166573915
Play his route. With DotP he knows that even if she has an evil nature, she'll stick on a good path as long as she's with Hakuno, and he wants to protect their happiness together. When Tamamo is with Hakuno without the imminent threat of Sephyr, she's just a devoted, friendly, kind wife. Karna saw past her Harlot persona.

>>166573920
He can think his fighting is amazing while still not sugarcoating it. Just Lu Bu was better.

>>166573916
Of course.

>>166573745
I could write up all the stuff about that fight here if you like.
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>>166573763
Shame they dropped him, eh? I wonder how they let him know that he won't be needed anymore
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>>166574096
Titan Goddess Corroded Regalia Devourer Liz is above universe level
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>>166574140
He called Gawain skilled in Foxtail too,when they were melee fighting too.
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>>166574220
me on the bottom
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>>166573894
>>166573428
>>166573431
>The worst character in the game who is nothing but rehash of 50 other characters Nasu has done that is also propped up by nothing but power level shit is by Nasu
really makes you think
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>>166574251
>implying she won't be Lancer Pluto
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>>166574343
I hope you aren't implying the other parts were any better
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>>166574343
>50 other characters Nasu has done that

name some
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Who is this mysterious opponent, lads?
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>>166574220
Me on the top, source please
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Who is best husbando in Extella?
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>>166573792
He get trashed by Gawain even before the CS thingy
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>>166574007
Well, it is motherfucking Lu Bu after all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBBVPSsFCUc
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>>166574343
And she still manages to be better than the other two whores. Sasuga Sakurai.
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>>166574448
Zelda.
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>>166574251
God fucking damn, why does Nasu keep powercreeping his waifu?
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What's he thinking of?
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>>166574492
Dis boi
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>>166574251
Is this for real or is this another episode of /fgog/ disinformation?
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>>166574436
Nasu was exploring all of F/SN's themes except for its core one (what it means to be a hero) and plenty others in Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime long before, largely because the Nasuverse is founded on principle philosophical conceits that are consistent throughout Nasu's works. Souren Araya's motivation ties into Kiritsugu's/EMIYA's suppositions about saving people long before Fate ever came to be.

Most of his characters are variations of his previous writings. He mashes them together to create something new or tries to flash out a character he thought had bigger potential. Story themes and overall plot often mirrors something he wrote in the past too. He often has mono no aware present in his works. Originally he was inspired by Evangelion which shows in his works starting from Mahoyo and Angel Notes. Nowadays he doesn't even bother anymore since Fate allows him to reuse characters left and right.

Shirou ties back to Enjou Tomoe.
Rin is Misaya is Azaka is the haughty tsundere
Sakura is Fujino is the rape victim.
Kotomine is Araya is Nrvnqsr is the stern intellectual antagonist voiced by Jouji Nakata.
Gilgamesh is Alba is Roa is the extremely powerful but arrogant antagonist.
Kerry, Daisuke and Gun God.
Kotomine works with Gil and they're bros, Araya works with Alba (once upon a time they were probably bros), and Nrvnqsr and Roa are bros, too.
Tamamo is Kohaku.
Matthew is FSN stray servant + White Sakura from Fate Extra.

And so on. Routes, stories and their themes can also be compared like that. Even just the beginning of SN and Tsukihime were taken from KnK Hollow Shrine.

Nasu reuses, mixes, mutates in his works everything he can. Everything new is a rehashed old sometimes with some fresh additions. But it's how the world is. Everything new is well-forgotten old. Following this rule he can spin stories non-stop.
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>>166574657
Some roman fag ruined his circles
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>>166574262
Yeah, and Gawain also called Karna skilled and noted that if he'd been hit with even one strike, he'd be dead. Karna lated noted that Gawain was fighting with pure power, trying to overwhelm him rather than outskill him.
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Dantes event is worse than I remembered. I want to play more event quests REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>166574686
She's dreaming.

But in her dream yeah she's probably above universe level. She solo'd every servant in the game there.
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I didn't get Dantes but at least I got my bride to NP2
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>>166574657
Why women are fucking pigs who eat in bed
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>>166574007
Well yeah unlike a lot of characters from books, ROTK repeatedly say that no one can beat LuBu. Not in combat atleast and no one ever defeats him, closest in ROTK was the three brothers force stalemates against him
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>>166574657
Multiplication tables.
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>>166574657
Making death rays with bronze mirrors
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>>166574657
He left his water running back home.
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>>166574657
Beyblades
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>>166574657
Plunging his mathematically superior cock into Liz's illogical lizard puss.
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>>166574343
Wow Archimides is that strong?
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>>166574436
There's literally 4-5 "Muh what does it mean to be human" characters in every fucking nasu work
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>>166574714
Indeed,which doesn't change the fact that Karna thinks Gawain's a skilled opponent and not just some shitter.
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>>166574658
Why is Karna so cute?
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>>166574693
>Shirou ties back to Enjou Tomoe.
In what way, shape, sot or form except they're both ginger? This post is so full of bullshit it's beyond ridiculous. You're comparing dynamic between Kirei and Gil to Araya and Alba and to Roa and Nero (WHO NEVER EVEN INTERACTED IN TSUKIHIME). Are you absolutely fucking serious?
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>>166575090
They're both fakers you retard
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>>166574803
So does Corroded Liz only exist in her dream then?
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CANON EXTELLA POWERLEVELS
(ignoring regalia nero and tamamo)

Gilgamesh
Saber
Altera
Void Liz (?)
Iskander
Karna
Gawain (Numeral)
Cu
Jeanne
Lu Bu
Gawain (Normal)
Medusa
Emiya
Li Shuwen
Liz
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>>166575181
Nah Corroded Liz is real. She's supposed to be pretty strong too.
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>>166575072
When did I ever imply that? I know Karna thinks Gawain is skilled. He can think that Gawain fights amazingly even if Gawain loses.
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>>166575181
No.

Corroded Liz is = Regalia User level

Corrded White Titan Liz is her dream where she's >>>>>>>>>> Everyone
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>>166575120
Oh so a guy with borrowed ideals and fake legendary weaponry is totally the same as an artificially created puppet of a dead guy. Fuck off.
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>>166574657
>Wada's clearly capable of drawing diverse facial expressions
>And yet Rider looks like this
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>>166575291
>Gilgamesh above Saber
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>166572429
Add Siegfried and lancelot there desu.
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>>166574850
What is happening there? Are you giving her a feet massage?
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>>166575291
>Karna not at the top when he solos in his route

?
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>>166575291
> Lu Bu that low
> When he shits on Numeral Gawain

Doubt.png

Want canon? I'll give you canon

Situational Route-Based victor > Situational Route-Based loser
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>>166575090
Not agreeing with that other guy but:
>Roa and Nero (WHO NEVER EVEN INTERACTED IN TSUKIHIME)

They did. It's in a flashback, but it was in Tsukihime. Roa teaches Nero the Soil of Genesis technique.
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>>166575338
Exactly. Shirou hismelf died and artificially kept alive. He slowly becomes self aware about his existence in the same way Enjou does.
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>>166575361
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>>166575453
This.
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>>166575384
You're picking almond shells out of the sheets because she's too lazy to move.
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>>166575494
>Fight that was literally not conclusive
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>>166575341
>compring faces in game and some stoic poster for promotion

???
Why you don't screenshot Medusa in game expressions?
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>>166575453
Numeral Gawain wins against Lu Bu though
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Why is Jouji so based?
>Borrowing a friend's one will do

https://twitter.com/joujinakata123/status/824218003168366593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Lu Bu doesn't actually shit on Numeral Gawain though

He fights Gawain twice, once with Numeral and once without. With Numeral he puts up a good fight, actually making Gawain struggle, but he still loses. But without Numeral he wrecks Gawain.
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>>166575470
>it was in Tsukihime
It's not a particularly memorable flashback then since most of their interactions are from joke sidestories, MB encounters and just doujins.
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>>166575494
> She said herself she could keep fighting
> In comparison to her route where she beats Gil and Iskander together with no such notion of them saying they can keep going
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>>166575291
CANON EXTELLA CUTELEVELS

Gilgamesh
EMIYA
Karna
Cu
Gawain
Medusa
Lu Bu
Jeanne
Iskandar
Li Shuwen
Altera
Saber = Nero = Tamamo = shit
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>>166575573

Here I come to make the shitposting continue
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>>166575687
>complains about them siding with Altera
>when she literally does nothing to help in the main story

Seiba pls
>>
You summon Darius to a grail war, he's almost dying and only a mana transfer can save him, but if he survives you're guaranteed to win the war. What do you do?
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>>166575745
Who do you guys like more, Wada or Takeuchi?
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>>166575738
Swap Saber and Gil
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>>166575738
Gil and EMIYA can be cute?
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>>166575291
>Karna below Iskander, void Liz and Altera
?
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>>166575676
It's not particularly memorable, yeah. Most of their relationship happens off screen really.
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>>166575745
Why is Wada's Meduseless so ugly?
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>>166575812
I order him to kill himself.
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>>166575624
Karna himself says Lu Bu = Numeral Gawain, in some routes Gawain even gets all angsty and goes 'M-muh holy sword couldn't beat him' then you have to do everything because he ran out of prana getting btfo'd
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>>166575853
Nah Saber is ugly
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>>166575846
Not in-game art Wada>Takeuchi>ingame-art Wada

I don't know why he suck so much in Extella but his artbook look tons better
>>
>Just started
>Pulled Emiya from tutorial
>Finished Fuyuki, did 10 pull
>Got 2 Hassans of Serenity and Jing Ke and some HP+ CE and
Emiya is apparently really great but I feel like I just got fucked. Should I restart or solidify a mind of steel
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>>166575812
I take this roleplaying shit to reddit
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>>166575798
But then people would bitch she's just stealing spotlight
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>>166575090
>WHO NEVER EVEN INTERACTED IN TSUKIHIME

Read
the
VN
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>>166575812
I wonder what possible situation I would be in that fucking Darius could carry me to victory.
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>>166575991
You can spend a week re-rolling for a SSR if you want. Emiya is the best 4* archer but if you just want to steamroll the game, at least retry for Herc.
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>>166575905
Because normally Medushit is pretty ugly
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>>166575936
Gawain only uses Numeral in one stage and he always beats Lu Bu. He loses against him when he doesn't have it.
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>>166575892
Yes.
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>>166576049
She does that anyway because her side story shows that the entire struggle of the main story was utterly irrelevant

There was no need for Tamamo, Nero, Saber Venus, etc. at all. Arturia could've done everything they did but quicker and easier
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>>166575485
>Shirou hismelf died and artificially kept alive.
Except he didn't, Avalon or Rin's pendant don't work that way.
>He slowly becomes self aware about his existence
He's a person, he's self aware about his existence since day 1. But Saber and Archer just have to tell him that he lives his life incorrectly.
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>>166575939
Not as ugly as Wada Gil
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>>166573792
>fight and says that Karna would likely win if his master had helped at all. I
That's not even what he said
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>>166575745
>W-Wada just can't draw men
She can't draw anything apparently
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>2 more weeks of this shit thread
>>
VIDEO OF DANTES INTERLUDE WHERE
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>>166576175
His cuteness can't be hindered even by shitty art.
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So

Who here /Little Squirrel/?
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>>166575991
This is Extella thread now,any FGO related question,go ask /v/ pls,thank you
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>>166575936
>gets BTFO by liz in CCC
>gets BTFO again in Extella
Will Gilkekcucks ever recover?
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>>166574494
No, the fight was pretty even. Karna was keeping up even without his spear in the chapter before.
>>
>>166576123

Karna too.
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>>166575846
Takeuchi has better sprites, Wada has better everything else
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>>166576224
how did Broskander become a meme?
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>>166576094
He's great to start with but I feel salty that my 10 pull was garbage.
Shouldn't be too hard to get a shitload of quartz since I just started though, so I'll keep at it I guess.
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>>166575892
Cute and sexy, suck it waifufags

>>166576335
Fate/Zero
>>
>still haven't rolled Hopeman
JUST
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>>166575905
Because she draws her as the middle aged soccer mom she is supposed to be
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>>166576110
It's always on when there's sunlight numb-nuts.
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>>166576292
Still better than Lancelot at least
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>>166576402
same
i want to die
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>>166575846
Wada should stop doing official art and back to drawing fanbook
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>>166576398
Wada is so fucking bad.
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>>166576274
>tells you how to save Altera
>liberates titan Altera so she can save the day

Liz was the real hero
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>>166575846
wada draws females better

takeuchi does better dudes
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>>166576071
I did it 7 years ago, give me a fucking break.
>>
How strong is Archimedes lorewise?
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>>166576546
An absolute mathman
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>>166576425
I see you haven't played Extella
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Can we note that the absolute mathman took route after route's worth of punishment, saber venus bullshit and all your regalia crap, and is still alive and kicking?

What does it take to kill this guy?
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>>166576546
pretty weak but he's power boosted due to contact with Velber cells and admin powers within the Moon Cell
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>>166576546
Below Void Liz and above Gilgameme, can probably facetank full power ea
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>>166576473
Has anyone scanned this book yet?
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>>166576615
A look into this thread.
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>>166576530
Nobody believes you.
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>>166576615
First you need to take away his villain armor
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>>166576546
His side-route had him beat up Velber II and Selphyr, he also can take on Regalia users and likes his own chances against Altera

So pretty strong, though notably alot of that was with void cell power-up.
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>>166576681
I have it but I don't know how to scan it and I realised the book is made with hard paper so I can't even see lion king's face because its stuck inbetween 2 pages
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>>166576703
I don't care about that nobody's opinion.
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>>166576738
Are side-route canon or nah?
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>>166576615
You can't kill math
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>>166576817
Rude
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>>166575745
I can't be the only guy here who likes the way Wada draws Meduseless.
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> The materials don't tell us Corroded Liz's power level

When lads

When will we know her unbearable might

>>166576837
All side-routes are canon in their own continuities. Extella is literally all about AU's.
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>>166572429
>Saber
>worth a shit these days
>>
>>166576217
He says that Karna was screwed over by Jinako being shit. It's implied that Karna would have a much better chance without Jinako giving a command that is tantamount to suicide.
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>>166576335
Persistent shitposting.
>>
>>166576970
> Saber btfo's Cu and Medusa together, Tamamo Regalia boosted and Lu Bu together, Iskander and Gil together, and is evidenced in the game to be beyond V7 White Titan Sephyr
> Not worth shit
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>>166575291
>Iskander over Cu when Cu kills him in his side mission
>Altera over Jeanne when Jeanne is stated as one servant who can beat her
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>>166576398
Where the fuck did Rani and Rin go?
>>
>>166577071
Will Cu ever recover?

>Too afraid to even fight Altera
>loses a 2v1 against Arturia
>Has 0 wins against relevant servants despite appearing almost as much as EMIYA across all works
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>>166577071
>Saber has literally star level strength
>still gets btfoed by Gil
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Jannu > Aliens
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>>166576335
he was always a meme-tier shit character
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>>166577169
>Iskander over Cu when Cu kills him in his side mission
Iskandar defeats Cu in his side mission too.
>>
>>166577290
I want to touch her tits
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>>166577275
And Cufags STILL think he's stronger than Scat, at this point he's as much of a meme as deermud
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>>166576913
I like her too, she looks really cute and kinda modern in those clothes.
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>>166577280
> Btfo'd

She said herself she could keep fighting when he left, where-as in her route she beat him AND Iskander to the point that they fell unconscious or possibly even dead

Evidence would suggest if Gil hadn't fucked off, Saber would've pushed his shit in
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>>166576837
They're all "canon" in that they're possibilities, but only Karna, Gil, and Saber get sidestories that don't result in the world getting pruned when the next 100 year check comes about.

>>166576217
That is exactly what he said, actually. He said that Karna was a spectacular Servant, and he was pushing Gawain to his limit even without any help from his Master. Gawain notes that one hit from Karna would have killed him, and it was only by stacking Gawain and Leo's defensive buffs that he survived. If Jinako had been there to either buff Karna or stop Leo buffing Gawain, Gawain more than likely would have lost.
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>>166577290
Why is she so perfect
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>>166577290
Is her bikini costume any good? I can't imagine it being worth as much if she doesn't have any special scenes like Nero and Tamamo.

Also
>CCC Tamamo comes out today
>No red minidress Nero or Gay Barcher.
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>>166577445
>Only Nasuwank™ favorite characters don't get pruned for no reason really
wow real shocker there
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Eli a cute!
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>>166576335
>read uro's Iskandar (zero and azo)
>fucking autistic manchild
>read Nasu's Iskandar
>pretty cool guy

really made me think
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>>166576398
Gil has micropenis.
>>
>>166577425
>this is what saberfags actually believe
>>
>>166577562
Literally the same character
>>
>>166577290
Is her outer shoe thing normally that big?
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>>166577651
I'm a saberfag and I don't believe that.
>>
>>166577714
Her clogs aren't tiny.
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>>166577585
But Kaleid Liner says he has a normal dick
>>
Filthy EOP here, what happens in Dantes' interlude?
I can only try to make sense of the pics, so I imagined it being some kind of snapping at Dantes for being an anti-social observer that just hides in the shadows while everyone else is having their own arguments.
>>
Situational character A defeats Situational character B

This can be inversed based on the scenario, added to or subtracted depending on the factors involved in said scenario

That's how Extella power levels work

Character A wins because it's a favorable scenario to them

That's all

Stop looking for logic in it
>>
>tfw arguing about powerlevels on both sides for (you)s
You can't stop me
>>
Did anyone ever upload dango's shop bgm?
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>>166577562
>M-muh I wasn't used to my moon cell body
haha fuck off
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>tfw killed Gawain while he still had Numeral up

Get fucked faggot
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>>166577774
Probably bigger as a kid.
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>>166577835
Same
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xth for cuties
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3i5wc12PMk

Thighs when?
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>>166576398
Holy fuck Kiara bare my children pls
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>>166577651
Like it or not Gilfag, it happened

In Gil's route, she stated she could still go. No such indication was shown for him in her route

I know it's hard to accept, but you'll get over it I'm sure. Maybe you should pick up a character who actually has a chance still, you could be buddies with Melvin maybe.
>>
>>166577408
Isn't Scat a weakling?

But yeah Saber could probably kill anything that's possible to be killed as long as it's from outside Gaia and a threat to it (i.e. not ORT since it has no concept of death and was called by Gaia)
>>
>>166577831
>>166578029
Gilgamesh can end a war in a single day vs all other servants, sabershit was in that same war.

Gil >>> Saber
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>>166577959
How does that work?
>>
>>166575991
Emiya is great after you get him to lv80 and do his strenghtening quests to improve his skills (and do his NP interlude), before that he's uh... not really good. So yeah, you might want to reroll if he's not one of your favorites.
>>
>>166578071
>Implying Emiya with a bow won't end the war first
>>
>>166578071
"Can" is not the same as "will"
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>>166575812
I hope he'll find Iskander and rape him.
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>>166578104
Magic.
Alternatively, a tragic penile accident involving lots of mud.
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>>166578071
> Gilfags this triggered that their Archer is shit now before the might of anti-ayyyy lmao Saber

Poor Gilfag. Nasu will give your boi a power up one day, don't worry.
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>>166576123
More proof that extella was a shameless cash grab sasuga nasu
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>>166578142
Only thing holding Gil back was Lancelot, Saber wasn't and will never be a factor
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My wives
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>>166577835
TM powerlevels dicussions can never be stopped
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>>166578216
Psst, it doesn't really work as trolling because he BTFOs her in his path.
>>
>>166577290
Wada's titties are so good, she knows how they work

If only Takeuchi would learn how to do them too
>>
>>166578301
Alter SoL anime when
>>
>>166578216
Wasn't this always the case thanks to Avalon hax?
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>>166578250
The point is literally everyone "can" a war.

It just depends on the scenario.
Relax bro,your Golden-haired faggot is still the strongest,but that doesn't mean he'll always win.
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>>166578216
>lost to generic swordspam by Gil
KEK
And then when she tried fighting ea
Hold on, wait a minute
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>>166578198
Enkidu castrated him after grooming him into Caster Gil (Bride). We already knew this.
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How did an anime with a poorly thrown together story and bad animation from 06 get a mobile game and so many spinoffs?
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This kills the Gilfag
>>
Is there anything cute on Gawain in Extella?
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>>166578426
wew
>>166578461
>>
>>166578426
S-stop t-trolling she c-can release full excalibur!
>>
>>166578461
Nah, that kills the Gil
>>
>>166578461
See >>166578426
Saber won with surprise tactic against Gil who wasn't even trying, every iteration casual Gil BTFO Seibahshit who can't even beat brainless herc
>>
>>166578458
Too obvious 0/10
>>
>>166578332
Is Sephyr/Sefar stronger than ORT?
>>
>>166577951
>that gif
I really dislike this anime's design, but the chibi segments are good and make the designs bearable at least
>>
>>166577527
>for no reason really
The ones who can kill Sephyr are the ones who have their routes survive. If Sephyr doesn't die, Velber comes back on schedule and the world is destroyed.
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>>166575738
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Now what
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>>166578608
"Don't think"
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> Jobbermesh has this many triggered fans

Must be a hard life loving a guy who gets his anus destroyed erry other day
>>
>>166578635
Rape is always the answer
>>
>>166578301
>Saber Alter's pose

That looks uncomfortable if not painful
>>
>>166578685
Reminder in this very same route, Cu saved Sabershit because she's worth less than soot
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>>166578000
do you think Altera would be happy if she rolled sumanai?
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>>166578629
Why wouldnt EMIYA be able to destroy Sephyr with Excalibur Image
>>
>>166578616

Wait what chibi sections?, also I like the design, but then I see that other girl (Pipimi's cousin) and seriously reconsider
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>>166578838
It's not a proper Excalibur
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>>166578301
Who the fuck raises the controller over their face and puts their arms between their face and the TV?
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>>166578685
>gets his anus destroyed erry other day
This is my fault.
Sorry.
>>
>>166578838
Because Excalibur Image isn't as strong. It's a fake, hollow sword that lacks the true function of the chosen sword of Gaia. That's the case with all of Emiya's projections.
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>>166578774
She has to give Jeanne Alter and edge somehow.
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>>166578635
EMIYA confirmed strongest Servant once again
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>>166578794
> Btfo'd by Shirou
> Btfo'd by Arturia
> Btfo'd by Sakura

When will you stop getting btfo'd, Gilfag?
>>
>>166578685
Gilfags have no guts.
They side with the canon strongest servant while others have to take underdogs to challenge them in powerlevel, its just boring.
>>
>>166578949
>>166578905
Vasavi Shakti and Ea aren't full power Excalibur either last I checked
>>
>>166578996
Or, you know, you can choose a character because their design or personality appeals to you.
>>
>>166578863
These ones, as far as I know they are uploaded on kadokawa's youtube anime channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkRmV974oc
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>>166578814
Sumanai is good civilization
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>>166579068
People who do that don't end up spending hours upon hours engaged in powerlevel shitposting.
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>>166579028
Check it again. Ea is one of the most powerful weapons in the franchise and Vasavi Shakti is a weapon designed for single target utter extermination. One has a concept that rips apart worlds and the other is so much raw force that nothing cab really stand against it without a proper defensive concept. Velber's weakness is raw force.
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So Altera can be defeated with the power of friendship too?
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>>166577275
>Saber Alter, the "strongest servant" is no longer relevant
Will Melvin ever recover?
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>>166577781
It's about him protecting MC dreams from being attacked by old foes.
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But can any servant defeat Liz?

And I'm not talking about living Liz, destroyer of women. Nor Servant Liz utilizing her noble phantasm that allows her to use singing for destruction of pitiful enemies. Hell, I'm not even talking about Dark Eliza with chuuni strength. Nor am I bringing up Corroded Liz with her Regalia-consumed strength and Umbral Star Enhanced Might. I'm talking about Corroded White Titan Goddess Regalia Liz with Titan Skill, EX-Noble Phantasm and complete invulnerability to concepts with physical strength above multi-dimensional barriers Level.
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>>166579264
>Green Hakuno
deepest lore
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>>166579370
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>>166579108
They're a miraculous duo of Sabers that are neither Saberfaces or blonde that got to appear outside of GO.
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>>166577408
Scat is shit tier too, though more shit tier than Cu
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>>166578978
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Reminder that Gil Ea matches pic related
While Saber's excaliblast can't even destroy a couple city blocks
K E K

Saber confirmed for weak as fuck if she isn't attacking some ayylmaoshit
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>>166579370
Liz canonically loses to penises.
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>>166578926

A winner apparently
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>>166579238
Vasavi Shakti couldn't even fucking kill Cu Alter (Who had no defensive concept bullshit that you're trying to shill for some reason) and you want me to believe that it can beat Sephyr decisively when Excalibur Image can't? Fuck off
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>>166579438
If Siegfried appears in Extella 2 and he gets cute interactions with Altera and Karna I will send Nasu some of the roses I planted myself.
Who am I kidding that will never happen Sumanai can't have nice things ever and won't ever appear in a musou where we can see him doing well
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>>166578978
>Btfo'd by all these different people
>But never once by the jetfag
Literally a year and a half of nonstop effort working himself to the bone, and he accomplished nothing.
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>>166579068
Yes I'm just talking about powerlevels.
Stop bringing gilgameme on the table he is just too strong the discussions are always the same refrain.
Better discuss any other servants, it will always be better than someone who can EAgg.
Or dont discuss powerlevel at all
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>>166579606
>tfw Siegfried and Dantes as DLC never
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>>166579238
> The other is so much raw force

You what. That is not and has never been how Vasavi works.
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>>166577445
>only Karna, Gil, and Saber
Didn't they all have the light in the credits though?
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>>166579368
He's really nice for an Avenger.
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>>166579559
He got him with a glancing blow as he was dying, and Cu Alter has a grail powering his regeneration. Excalibur Image is a construct made by man that Sephye has a defense against. Vasavi Shakti is a divine construct made to exterminate with raw power. It hasn't been used to score a direct hit even once in the entire franchise because reasons.
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>>166579606
>Siegfried shows up in Extella 2
>He's front in center in every promotional artwork for the game
>He dies by sacrificing himself in the first chapter to save Hakuno and is never seen again
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>>166577290
fucking canoe shoes
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>>166579559
He beats Sefar given that line is not pruned. Also that's like saying that Excalibur can't kill Herc because Saber used a weaksauce Excaliblast on him in that Fate route bad end.
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>>166579559
>Deliberately leaving out the part that Cu was backed by a grail
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>>166579836
At least it's for Hakuno and not for Sieg this time
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>>166579238
>Velber's weakness is raw force.
But that's completely wrong.
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>>166579264
What did you think the game was about? Hakuno got close to Altera, made her more human, she fell in love with hakuno, and this ended up beating the Velber and saving the day.

Couple other coincidences also helped save the day, like Liz being retarded.
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>>166579747
Apo goes over it. It's enough to kill a god, so it's enough to kill anything below a god. There's a whole list of stuff it can kill.
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>>166579747
Yes, it has been. Vasavi is called an anti-divine weapon because it has enough raw power to kill a god, and therefore just about anything else is a matter of course. Check its description in mats.
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>>166579914
That only helped his regeneration, not his survival. If Vasavi is some ultimate destruction bullshit he would've died

It's hilarious watching you Nasushulls defend what is nothing more than him picking his 3 favorites and deciding
>LOL THESE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT MATTER XD
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>Implying Hakuno isn't the greatest master in the franchise
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>>166579747
It does not work how GO gameplay implied it does.
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>>166579028
Why does Karna only ever use Vasavi and never his other cool stuff like Brahmastra and Brahmastra Kundala.
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>>166579957
It's a spear of mortality capable of killing anything with a concept of death, whole bunch of shit it can't deal with.

And Sefar btfo's gods on the daily.
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>>166579816
Even with that glancing blow, Cu Alter had to retreat because he almost died.
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>>166579370

Can Saber beat Void Liz?
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>>166579559
In America, it's explicitly noted that Vasavi was weakened. That's on account of Karna's spiritual core having been completely destroyed. He should have vanished instantly, but he still managed to fire off Vasavi, only it wasn't as powerful as it usually is because he had barely any mana to work with.

Cu Alter had a Grail providing him functionally infinite mana which we already know results in high speed healing, coupled with Battle Continuation and Runes that he uses to heal near instantly. It still nearly killed him and forced him to retreat in order to heal up, and that was only with a glancing blow.

At its full power, Vasavi is one of the strongest Noble Phantasms in the franchise, and on top of that it's exactly Sephyr's weakness. It's not built on any underlying concept or theory. It's just a spear of pure light with an absolute fuckton of raw power behind it. It's perfect for killing Sephyr, and the fact that Karna's worldline doesn't get pruned is proof that he did kill Sephyr.

>>166579762
They all have the light, but it's the brightness of the individual lines that matters. The main story have the brightest routes, and the next brightest and most defined are those three. The others are vague and dark.
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>>166580017
It was an already dying Servant using the last he had to fire a NP.
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>>166578838
EMIYA in Extella comes from a world-line where he was chosen as the Regalia holder, except he failed in fighting the Velber and hakuno died from what it sounded like

A hollow and broken man who failed the ones he loved time and time again. He attaches himself to a version of his old master who doesn't remember him and didn't go through their experiences together, its not the same.
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>>166580052
Would use the most powerful nuke you have or the mini nuke if you are fighting an strong opponent?
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>>166580131
>>166580176
>>166580184
>even in defeat Nasu can't help himself from constantly fellating Karna
>Decides to shit on Arjuna just because
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>>166580169
Literally nothing can

When a person says 'undefeatable servant'', they mean her
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>>166580105
Sefar isn't necessarily stronger than the gods in the general strength sense. It's that it possesses a super OP concept that cannot be beaten by sapient beings. The fact that War could sort of fight her despite that shows a lot.
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Post biggest stick
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>>166580269
Arjuna exists to get shit on though
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>>166579647
delet this
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>>166580052
He uses Brahmastra in America and instantly defeats the party with it. Kundala is shown in Apo.
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>>166580052
He does in Apo.

>>166580105
It's called a spear of morality because it has enough power to kill just about anything that can be killed.

Sephyr loses to Excalibur because Excalibur has raw power that increases when it's defending the Earth. Vasavi Shakti is raw power without a real concept to it.
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>>166577831
>Stop looking for logic in it
You act like that's somehow illogical. Read FSN, yes situation and compatibility is everything, but mostly situation. Shit can go a hundred ways.
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>>166580184
Is there some sort of rule where dying servant effects NP output?
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Let's see if this thread still has oldfags or if Reddit, SEAniggers and facebook took over. Someone post the refund meme pic.
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>>166579946

>that line
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>>166580052
Karna uses Brahmastra in Foxtail and he probably would have scaled up to Kundala if Jinako hadn't forced him to use Vasavi. He also plans to use it twice in Apoc, on Jeanne and Vlad, before actually using it in his final fight with Sieg.

>>166580269
Arjuna's usually treated respectfully by Nasu, it's Higashide that shits on him most. And really, saying that Cu Alter just tanked it naturally would have been far, far worse given how it was hyped up in Apoc. Considering that even Kosmos couldn't fully stop it, having Cu Alter tank it would be conclusive proof that he's above world level
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>>166580176
>>166579238
>>166579816
>>166580339
>>166580296
Why didn't Indra use Vasavi Shakti to kill Sefar then
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>>166580414
NYPA newfag
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>>166580026
they're pretty great
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I formally ask you guys to not use Sigurd in power level shitposting when he gets released, he is one of my favorite heroes and the servant I'm looking forward to the most.
As a thanks have this cute thing that will never happen
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>>166580052
Brahmastra can't even harm Gawain
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>>166580414
I don't have the refund picture but here have some black keys
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>>166580479
Indra can't use it as well as Karna can. Also, it and/or he might not have existed at that point, since Altera says that she's not familiar with Karna's divinity, and I'm pretty sure that Surya and Indra existed at the same time.
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>>166580413
Mana supply affects NP output and usage. This had been true since Stay Night. Karna's spiritual core being destroyed left him with very little mana, and he has no master supporting him to begin with. He was running in his own natural supply. What do you think happens when that supply is cut off?
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>>166580479
Probably wasn't around back then. It sounds like the gods back then were all the prototypes of the current gods. The gods we know didn't happen until Age of Gods 3.0 it seems.
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>>166580552
Good job guaranteeing that Sigurd will be bombarded with powerlevel shitposting and as a bonus his own flavor of DUDE shitposting.
You shouldn't have let /fgog/ know you cared about a character.
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>>166580552
>Sigurdfags are Gilfags
Gross.
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>>166580552
Thanks for that cute thing, I promess I wont use sigurd as shitposting ammo.
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>>166578301
Alter versions are so shit.
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>>166580552
Nasu shit on my fave,

So now I'm going after yours the minute he's released.
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>>166580619
>>166580615
Sounds like some bullshit ass coverage

If older shit is supposed to be stronger in the Nasuverse and Gods are supposed to exist outside of time like shit in the throne then there's no reason to think that it wouldn't be around, or a similar weapon that later became Vasavi Shakti
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>>166580619
If Altera rampaged on earth 14k years ago why does Artemis say she and the 12 fought her?
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>>166580209
The nuke that doesn't take away the super armor.

Also, why is India so chuuni, everything is a nuke with them.
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>>166580575
*Gawain with Leo
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>>166580472
Isn't Arjuna compared to Siegfried by Karna in the apo mango? I wonder in what they are alike since their personalities are pretty different
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>>166580806
He's giving Siegfried rival status by comparing him to his life-rival Arjuna
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>>166580472
>it's Higashide that shits on him most.
TWO
FUCKING
NOBLE PHANTASMS
TWO

I'm still mad at that bullshit. How the fuck come Karna gets all that cool shit and Arjuna just gets a bow that sets his arrows on fire and Pashupata? Poor dude doesn't even get a personalized Brahmastra.
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>>166580615
>Indra can't use it as well as Karna can
I call bullshit, according to you all you need to do is use the nuke button don't give me that shit
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>>166580339
Spear of morality, turn turn turn
Tell us the lesson that we should learn
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What's the 5ap quest on the "event"?
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>>166580742
Gil himself said that he wasn't even sure he had a prototype for Vasavi, and if Gil doesn't have the prototype of it, no one does.

>>166580764
It's like Civ all over again.
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>>166580787
He didn't have Leo support to block that. He uses his own mini fire sword beam to block.
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>>166580748
It sounds like the gods are separate beings but also have a shared existence. One of the Gorgon sisters has memories and Tamamo has memories, and they certainly weren't personally around back then. The Sun God and whatever the Gorgons are descended from were there and they have those memories.
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>yfw the final challenge quest has new servants in it
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>>166580936
>If Gil doesn't have the prototype of it, no one does
>Not even the God who fucking had it to begin with
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>>166580926
Kek

>>166580905
As a Karnafag, even I'm miffed about that. Arjuna deserves at least a Brahmastra.
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>>166580926
"If a fox asks you to join her private army and burn down Rome, say 'yes'"
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>>166581018
> new stuff
> in nothinuary
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>>166580905
Heracles had to lived with two NP's for 12 years before he got a hotfix in SF which implies he has the original 2 + Pelt + EX (in the Archer class) at least.
Arjuna certainly isn't the first great hero to get fucked over
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>>166580742
Gods don't exist outside time, what? They go to a Throne of Gods or something, yeah, but they aren't summoned at every point in time. The original spirit of lightning that existed at that point in time probably didn't have Vasavi or anything like it.

>>166580806
From a story perspective, it gives Karna a reason to care about Siegfried and thus Sieg when Siegfried becomes an hero saving him. From a lore perspective, they were both heroes who did what others told them to do, and never really chased after what they themselves wanted, never did what they themselves wanted. There's actually a nice similarity there.

>>166580905
He didn't get an EX NP despite having the stat, so hopefully it's a sign he'll appear in something else and get it and other stuff there. I really hope that he does get shit because honestly it's kind of insulting that he only has two NPs, and fucking Pashupatastra isn't EX.

>>166580907
I'm just repeating what GO's said. It says that Karna can use it better than Indra can, and if you'll look back I also offered a more plausible explanation in Indra and/or Vasavi not existing at that point.
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>Nasu literally wanked Karna so hard it caused a plot hole
WEW
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>>166580907
It's been stated in lore already. To be fair though, the bit about Karna being better with it was about skill with the spear itself as a weapon. He can swing the stick better.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12193112
Don't forget to vote.
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>>166579465
What is this?
EA for ants?
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>>166581272
Which one?
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>>166580787
Read the story, Leo didn't do anything there.

Gawain calls his sword the second sword of the planet. Chances are its unbreakable just like the other swords of the planet, also it has a Sun inside of it.

It can stand up to fire attacks like this.
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>>166581072
The most reasonable explanation for the Nasuverse is that Gil said that there was no record of Vasavi every being used. Since that would mean Karna never ended up using it, then Indra might have never gotten it back. That's a little weird though, because being given an Astra was more like being given divine right to invoke it, rather than owning it.
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>>166581272
What plot hole? Indra didn't exist back then. A primordial spirit of Lightning did, but not Indra. If Indra didn't exist, obviously the weapon he made wouldn't exist either.
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>>166581175
Herc was there from the very start, though. The rules hadn't all been figured out yet, powerlevels were way lower key.

In contrast Arjuna gets written up by "haha let's give Achilles 5 NPs, two of which if not more were invented wholesale" Higashitde with a clear rival to live up and he gets two underwhelming ones.
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Why was he so right, /fgog/?
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>>166581274
>>166581269
Swinging the stick isn't fucking relevant you retards. Sefar is immune to combat, by your own logic all he has to do is activate the effect of the spear.

You still haven't explained shit about
>If Indra existed back when Sefar was around, why didn't he just use Vasavi Shakti
>If Indra didn't exist, why didn't his predecessor use the equivalent weapon
>If the equivalent weapon didn't exist then why not? What was keeping the older more powerful gods from creating the same type of tools as Vasavi?

>>166581480
Why couldn't any other lightning God, or any other God in general just make a similar weapon if they could make one later? Explain that shit
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So what happens in Gil's Extella ending? The Far Side has some Angra Mainyu/TATARI equivalent thing that's trying to corrupt Gil? Or was it the Velber?
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>>166581442
Brahmastra isn't a fire attack. Also, Gawain had to use a Skill to block it, and Brahmastra is only a Skill in the Moon Cell.

In America, Karna uses it and even holding back, it knocks out you, Mashu, Nightingale, and Rama instantly.
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>>166580991
That's wrong though you retard, Artemis specifically says the OLYMPIANS fought her. Not the fucking proto Olympians or whatever your headcanon bullshit is
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>>166581480
Any weapon based on logic or magic loses to Sefar, only pure power without any enchantment, intelligence, or magic or something similar can damage it. The only cheat around it is the holy sword of the planet which was specially designed to hurt alien threats.

Although the reason MC's could beat Sephyr is because it wasn't that strong yet, and they had the regalia and stuff. It was strong enough to start to shatter the Mooncell around it, but it hadn't leveled up that much yet from eating civilizations and intelligence. It had only just transformed.
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>>166581442
Post Yfw Gawain has canon deflected a beam and Lancelot hasn't
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>>166581523
Achilles is arguably much more famous than Arjuna though so that plays a large role. That said he might have 5NPs but all of them are underwhelming as fuck apart from Armantos which varies from fucking top tier to useless garbage depending on enemy.

Also Higashide can't write top tier servants for shit, as much as Sakurai gets called out for his powerlevels I would've much preferred if Heracles, Achilles and Arjune were written by him. At least they wouldn't be shafted that way.
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>gbfg is talking about new contents and stuff they are looking forward to while playing an event
>fgog is shitposting powerlevels while not even opening their dead game

Where did it all go so wrong?
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>>166581697
> Rama instantly

Isn't he worth like 10 Karna's in the original myths?
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>>166581570
It is a theory made by a random anon. The only real counter we know is Excalibur.
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>>166581720
The God of War back then is what came to be known as Mars and Ares. It's probably not wrong to say it was Mars or Ares, but it also wasn't explicitly Mars or Ares. All the gods talk about back then as if it was them directly, but the Gorgons definitely were not there.
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>>166581570
It's all conjecture at that point? Maybe they didn't need it. After all, not every age had warriors casually throwing nuclear weapons around. The gods were also a little dumb in Hindu myth because they would offer blessings to people that would even be their enemies as long as said enemies prayed to them and made offerings. When you consistently fuck up like that, you might end up needing an extermination weapon bigger than any nuke.
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>>166581768
Lancelot is low energy as fuck
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Full power sane Herk sounds broken at least on paper
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>>166581697
>and Brahmastra is only a Skill in the Moon Cell.
Only in terms of gameplay aspect

Just like how in FGO and Extra you get some NPs regulated to skills, but we know they're still NPs normally. Its not that they're actually skills, but rather servants in gameplay can only have one NP, so their other NPs are regulated to skills just in gameplay.

>>166581804
He only knocked out you and Mashu, although Rama regardless was already dying at that point slowly.
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>>166581886
From Hell
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>>166581791
Powerlevels are what drive us.

That, and our mutual hatred of Saberclones. Jeanne doesn't count
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>>166580552
I'll try to not brag about how awesome Sigurd is.
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>>166581768
So what if Lancelot can't reflect a beam? He is still more skilled and his sword is higher ranked
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>>166581804
Rama and Karna never existed in the same age, but Rama was of a similar rank. In lore, Rama and Karna are close to equal at their peaks.
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>>166582010
Lancelot wouldn't be able to do fuck all to Karna
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>>166581784
Achilles is said to be as strong as Karna easily in Apoc, and we know Heracles is stronger than Achilles normally.

Heracles is therefore stronger than Karna as long as he isn't Berserker.
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>>166581886
That's probably why we'll never see him. I just hope he'll be a Grand Servant whenever DW gives us some new story content.
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>>166581570
Some primordial spirits didn't want to fight? There's also the possibility that there's something fucky going on with Vasavi and it's not something created by Indra, or at least not something that uses Indra's lightning. Why would it be EX rank when other Divine Constructs like the Sword of Mars only be A++?

>>166581804
He's from the Yuga (age) before Karna's Yuga if I recall. That gives him a much higher level cap, so to speak, and yeah, he was probably stronger in the original legends. Nasu doesn't really care too much about that though. Also, interestingly enough, I'm pretty sure the Mahab was written first, even if the Ramayana is set before it.

>>166581940
You do realise Foxtail heavily integrates gameplay aspects, right? That's a big part of it. If it's a Skill in gameplay, it's a Skill in Foxtail. Also, he knocked out Nightingale as well I'm pretty sure.
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>>166581963
>Full power sane
Learn to read anon

>>166581886
Not just on paper, unless there's someone with hydra venom or Greek age of gods mindfuck magic then he really doesn't have any proper counter.

He's also impossible to write when sane since he isn't like Gil to go full retard and that's why we'll never see him sane in this franchise.
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>Faker's True Name is Iskandar's
Shadow
(イスカンダルの影武者, ?). She was the younger sister of
Hephaestion
(ヘファイスティオン, Hefaisution?), one of the generals serving under Alexander the Great. She acted as a bodydouble for both Alexander and her brother at times.

Okay, this makes no fucking sense. How the fuck is a woman supposed to be a convincing body double for a buff dude like iskander? Its like if Venom Snake was a loli in MGS and we are supposed to beliece that a loli is a convincing body double for a tough as nails soldier like big boss.

Did the real Hephastion even have a sister?
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>>166582073
Achilles is said to be on the same level, meaning top tier. In practice, Karna outdoes him in terms of armanents.
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>>166582073
Hector confirmed for almost as skilled as Karna.
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>>166582073
>Achilles as strong as karna
To this day that still makes no fucking sense.
Achilles almost lost to Hector the moment he lost his invunrability. so Karna, someone who is completely unphased by Achilles Invul. is somehow only slightly stronger?
Achilles is a mess, and stating he's on par with Karna is silly. I would've rather said he's better than Siegfried and leave that there.
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>>166581784
I dunno. Sakurai is a lot more well researched than Higashide tends to be, but in return he tends to pile more shit on top than is remotely necessary (cfr. Dendara Lightbulb etc.)
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>>166582073
>Achilles is said to be as strong as Karna easily in Apoc
Now you're just shitposting. Achilles was said to be the only Servant in the war who could possibly hold a candle to Karna, Karna was called dangerous beyond compare, and Achilles is receiving a moderate fame boost in his best Class while Karna is getting none in his worst.

Achilles wasn't on par with Karna in Apoc, he was the only Servant who could possibly stand a chance. There's a big difference.
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>>166572785
But I did.
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>>166581967
Speak for yourself. Arguing powerlevels like people do 90% of the time around here is pointless, and the only Jeanne that has any worth is pic related.
Also, Saber is great.
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>>166582191
That's a nice DUDE
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>>166582191
Looking at her clothes, maybe she did before Alex gor ripped for conquering
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>>166582191
>Okay, this makes no fucking sense. How the fuck is a woman supposed to be a convincing body double for a buff dude like iskander
It was when they were younger I think. Alex when he was younger was girlish.

>>166582201
>Karna outdoes him in terms of armanents.
No he doesn't karnafag. You guys get so damn uppity all thread. We saw Achilles Cosmos beat Karna's spear, and Achilles has like ten other things.
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>>166581967
Jeanne doesn't need to be a saberface to be shit
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>>166582191
>yfw the iskander we have now is a faker which is why he's so shitty
>yfw true iskander was a woman
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Why the fuck is no one talking about the new Faker class in case files? Do we just not care?
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>>166582246
>Achilles is a mess
???
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>>166582191
>How the fuck is a woman supposed to be a convincing body double for a buff dude like iskander?
He wasn't that impossibly buff in life. Think Alexander instead of Iskander and it makes more sense.
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Jesus what the fuck. Anyone getting error code 60 on a Xiaomi Mi 5? I'm not even rooted.
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>>166582191
That's fucking stupid
Just a genderbent Hephaestion would be much better
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>>166582073
>>166582219
According to Jason
>Everyone on the Argo is a 1 (Hector was on the Argo)
>Heracles is a 10
By that logic
>Achilles is a 1,5 at best
>Achilles = Karna means Karna = 1,5
>Heracles in his worst class is supposed to be 8,5 stronger than them
Which leads to the need for Nasu to start doing high level quality checks when writing this shit goddamn
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>>166582246
Karna lost to EMIYA, Nero and Tamamo without his armor what the fuck pedestal does he have to stand on
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They should have made a musou game about Apocrypha, all these homunculi and golems as cannon fodder would make sense. Extella's "virtual reality" stuff just doesn't appeal to me.
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>>166582393
It's old news
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>>166582394
The way they keep stating how dman powerful he is despite never doing anything to back that up. Even Siegfried, someone who's decisively weaker has had better things to show off how "strong" he is.
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>>166582420
Sure, but then the fujos would get mad. I'm surprised the "Iskander doesn't even really remember Waver because that whole HGW was incredibly minor to him" thing didn't result in more meltdowns.
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Extella Empires when?
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>>166582423
"Donut." - Mushroom
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>>166582393
Pandora finally being revealed in Prisma is more relevant.
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>>166582105
>Why would it be EX rank when other Divine Constructs like the Sword of Mars only be A++?
The same reason for why Karna gets lumped in with Saber and Gil as the only canon side routes, because Nasu wants to wank him and plays extreme favorites
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>>166582357
Achilles Kosmos is a shield specifically designed to defend against anything below anti-world, and the shield still broke afterward. Karna gets the better armor and better offensive NPs. A 90% reduction is better than invulnerability with a bunch of holes in it for the most part. Achilles only offensive NP worth anything is his chariot. The shield's offensive function is yet to be seen.
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>>166582423
Or Jason's just a retard who can't into math
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>Hector and Achilles are equal
This is the dumbest shit. It undermines the entire reason why Achilles was important in the Trojan War.
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>>166582423
Basically.
I will say that Full power Herc probably has a pretty fair chance at dealing with Karna though. with a slight disadvantage because of Karna having a Divine Construct.
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>>166582528
Maybe then they'll give us more representatives from all the historical musous and give us Zhao Yun
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>>166582519
>I'm surprised the "Iskander doesn't even really remember Waver because that whole HGW was incredibly minor to him" thing didn't result in more meltdowns.

Where is this mentiones? I want to know how much my boy Waver suffered from this revelation ;_;
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>>166579264
>Arturia saves everyone including body Hakuno

Why don't we have a route for her instead of Nero?
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>>166582423
Higashide wrote the pillar actually, and Apochrypha.
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>>166582423
(You) need to stop thinking like a powerlevel hunger retard
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>>166582538

Literally what?

Also

>caring about prisima
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>>166582393
I've only read the first volume desu
I hope we get translations faster
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>>166582668
>miyakofags are arturiafags
I see that shit taste goes cross franchise
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>>166582432
His worldline continuing after his side story and the fact that he was still nerfed in Extella (no armor).
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>>166582656
Mats or something. If you want more Waver and Iskander interaction go reread Accel Zero.
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>>166582357
The second Achilles loses his shield he's dead though.
Karna just beats him out in every catagory other than speed, and as shown by the Hector Vs Achilles that someone with only A+ Agility can still take him on and only barely loose.
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>>166582423
I think you're just reading way too much into Jason's very elementary explanation of force multipliers. Seriously, you can't be this dumb.
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>>166582613
>Achilles if he gimps himself heavily and takes away half his shit is slightly above Hector

Fixed, shitposter

He had to gimp himself entirely because Hector was being a bitch about it. Which is why he created Dual Field.
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>>166582623
>with a slight disadvantage because of Karna having a Divine Construct
Literally doesn't have anything to do with anything.
Karna has no way of countering NL which is a bullshit low cost NP that's pretty much ''every strike can be a critical damage kind of strike at super high speeds that also fucks any regenerative ability you have''.

Honestly, Heracles doesn't even need the EX NP, NL is just absurd and he can combo it with everything
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>>166582315
I meant that Jeanne doesn't really count as a Saberclone since her design isn't completely a copy-paste. You are right in that is the best Jeanne however.

And I never said the powerlevel discussion wasn't shitposting. Of course it's shitposting, but we all do it anyways.
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>>166582656
He's exaggerating, its just that he regards it as any other fight in his life and not some life defining moment.
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>>166582743
So in other words his pedestal is Nasuwank

>>166582778
>Hector was being a bitch about it
Also known as using tactics
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>>166582191

nobody was so stupid, but they preferred to deal with this qt instead of that other dude, so they all went along and silently agreed to never say otherwise
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>>166582246
When you look at it, if both fought when they were at their best in Apoc, I can't see it going any other way than a victory for Karna or a stalemate. Achilles has Kosmos which can block anything but Vasavi and reduce the damage Vasavi can do to the point that he'd survive, but he has no way of really killing Karna besides baiting Vasavi and attacking after, which Karna's too smart to fall for.

>>166582357
>We saw Achilles Cosmos beat Karna's spear, and Achilles has like ten other things.
Vasavi penetrated the barrier. It was weakened to the point that it couldn't kill a D-Rank Endurance Servant, but it still penetrated it. You can argue that it "beat" it because it protected the wielder, but that doesn't change the fact that it still penetrated the barrier. The only other thing Achilles has that's good for attack is the chariot, which falls flat compared to Karna's nuke. On top of that, anything Achilles does to Karna has to deal with his armor, while Achilles' invulnerability doesn't work on Karna.

>>166582578
Well, yeah. But I'm mostly speculating from a lore perspective. I think there's a good chance it'll have something to do with Shakti being the primordial cosmic energy of the universe.
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Why do the nips only care about waifus and never discuss powerlevels? What a bunch of lonely autists.
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>>166582795
something something only 10% of Nine lives damage goes through.
Herc would probably stomp if Karna didn't have such a busted as shit Armor NP.
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>Faker is a class for body doubles

Holy shit, we may actually get Hitler now since his body double is in koha ace.
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>>166582578
Karna was a big deal in his myth as well. A myth from a mythology where the average side character was worth an army of experienced, trained soldiers and the weapons could cause nuclear fallout.
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>>166582729
>says the nerofag
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>>166582191
Gawain was Artoria's body double
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>>166582743
What worldline?
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>>166582839

"and he's just a fuckboi to boot"
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>yfw EMIYA alter is Faker class
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>>166582656
>>166582752
He's exaggerating, all that was said is that for Iskandar, it wasn't really special. Iskandar has an entire army of similar stories. He remembers them all, but Waver is just another one of his guys that he's recruited in similar ways.

Iskandar is like DBZ, they start of hating him, by the end they're swearing loyalty, also repeat with a new guy each arc.

It doesn't mean he doesn't still care about Krillin
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>>166582578
To be fair, Karna was a huge mary sue in his original myth. Almost like Galahad but more power level-y
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>>166582891
>anything Achilles does to Karna has to deal with his armor
Karna loses it if he uses VS.
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>>166582915
Only if he's a non-playable bad guy, or appears in a work and never get into GO. People butthurt from a single Nazi-inspired uniform would be ultra butthurt about that.
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>>166582917
>Karna was a big deal in his myth as well
Ok that works for people like Li Shuwho and Meduseless but not Cu who isn't even a top servant
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>>166582578
>A Servant based on someone who was one of the strongest people in the Mahabharata being strong enough to kill the base form of Sephyr is baseless Nasuwank

What did he mean by this?
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>>166577071
>and is evidenced in the game to be beyond V7 White Titan Sephyr
Literally confirmed by the Mathman.

Also
>Sephyr

It's Sefar.
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What's some essential seigicore I should be listening to right now?
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>>166582915
>tfw you end up summoning a Faker because you can't afford the real deal
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>>166583131

The offficial english translation uses Sephyr.
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>>166582903
>Only 10% of each strike does damage
>Can combo them forever since the NP is low cost so they stack super fast since you used it the same way on the immortal hydra
Probably the most underestimated NP out of them all, if he killed something that was considered immortal then he can kill someone who can only reduce damage taken
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So what are we getting after this shitty Edmond Dantes rerun?
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>>166583108
>The Gods who literally are above the strongest people in the Mahabharata weren't able to beat any version of Sephyr
Yeah that's why it's baseless Nasuwank
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>>166583079
Yes, but is there any reason why he'd bother with VS on Achilles? Brahmastra is a homing laser and Kundala is a nuke that's stronger than most other NPs. I don't get why people argue that Karna will use Vasavi so quickly when he's got both Brahmastras to fall back on first.

Basically the only way Achilles can win is by baiting Karna into using a weapon that's overkill when Karna is more than willing to only use Kundala on opponents, and hiding this ruse from someone who has a skill specifically for seeing through lies and making it impossible for him to be tricked.
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Honestly what annoys me the most is how they said in Apo that Achilles is the best greek after Herk, which is bollocks, Theseus should be stronger than him if we analyze their feats. Second most famous yeah that's probably right, but not way second strongest. I would even say Perseus should be better because even if he was handed his victory to Medusa he also killed a sea monster and that was by himself no specific tools given to him to beat that
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>>166583210
Valentines rerun
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>>166583210
Valentine's rerun.
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>>166583194
They're stupid.
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Leave Sephyr to me.
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>gbfg is stealing redrawn version of riyo's gudako

/fgog/ BTFO again on the same day reddit BTFO'd us.
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Post best girl.
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>>166583196
Really makes you wonder why Redman didn't just NL anyone to death in FSN or any of its spin-offs.
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>>166583023
At the end of each route in Extella, there's a line of light that moves across the screen. Ones that are snuffed out fail to overcome Sephyr in the future while ones that continue to shine are ones where Sephyr is eliminated and mankind is safe. They represent parallel worlds where different versions of the story happen. Karna's is one of the few that continues, meaning he succeeded in defeating both Velbr and Sephyr.
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Ok what's this faker class and body doubles people are talking about?
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>>166583292

It's the canon one so your opinion on the name is irrelevant.
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>>166583242
>The Gods who literally are above the strongest people in the Mahabharata
I don't think you've read the Mahabharata. The gods there got their shit kicked in regularly, and a bunch of demigods and humans were far stronger.
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>>166583282
If you want to talk about bullshit with the Greeks, the first that has to be mentioned is how Medusa has Harpe AND Bellerophon but Perseus not only doesn't have Head of Medusa/Breaker Gorgon but he also can't even use multiple of his gifts from the Gods at the same time
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>>166583319
Reddit is /pol/ approved anyway, I don't see the problem.
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>>166583319
>generic fantasy trash mobage has to steal memes to stay alive
No surprises there.
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>>166583339
Because he has never seen the technique and what Shirou does in HF is an asspull
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>>166583257
Achilles is the fastest hero, with a dozen weapons and skills. Karna will have to use VS some time, and when he does he loses, since Achilles counters it.
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>>166583380
Bad troll is bad. Bad translations don't change history.
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>>166583375

it's me anon
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>>166583339
Redman spamming NL Rule Breaker could solo every HGW by himself
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>>166583489
Son of a bitch!
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>>166583385
Indra > Erry fucker
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>>166583372
>Nasu has officially made it canon that only a handful of servants are relevant
wew all the Cufags, DUDEbros and other retards can go home now, the only people that matter are Karna, Arturia and Gilgamesh 100% confirmed by the lore
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>>166583467

>nasuverse
>historically accurate
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>>166583372
You pretty much just have to beat Sephyr, its revealed that Mooncell cloaks the solar system from Velber most of the time.

Only other thing you have to care about is the two siblings.
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>>166583282
>no specific tools given to him to beat that
Depending on the version, he either used Harpe or Medusa's severed head. Neither of those things were given to him for the sake of killing any sea beasts, but obviously they were still handy.
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>>166583426
T. a mobage on life support
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>>166583375
Professor Heartless (according to Google Translate) made a fake Grail to become a Fake Master to summon a Fake Servant and changed that class system to make Faker, which is a good class for body doubles and kagemusha.
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>>166583074
Karna was actually kind of a dick at times in the Mahab. He would boast and reach for recognition only to be denied. He had honor, but he still had intense hatred for Arjuna and the Pandavas who mocked him. He was a man robbed of his fate by circumstance and he grabbed onto the first hand to reach out to him, even if that hand ended up using him for evil goals.
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>>166583467

b-but Christianity...
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Lizfags forever cucked by superior mathematics. Will they ever recover?
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>>166583493
Redman couldn't solo his way out of a box.
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>>166583283
>>166583287
I guess I will roll for Nero bride then, since I wont be able to keep saving my quartz for much longer
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>>166583669
>implying he isn't my self insert
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>mfw Archer Heracles is a playable Servant in Extella 2
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>>166583560
You do know Sefar refers to a real thing right? If they called Karna Karunte, it wouldn't change who he is.
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>>166583403
Yeah that's stupid, I can understand giving the Pegasus to Medusa since that was born from her but come on why the fuck does she have Harpe? I hope that shadow Medusa Lancer Alter or whatever is forgotten so we don't have to deal with it. And he should have Medusa's head, he fucking used in the myths after slaying her. I hope his prototype form at least keeps Harpe, Hades's helm, Hermes's sandals and the shield Athena gave him. What does Harpe even do anyway?
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>>166582668
Because she's only in love with Shirou's food.
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>>166583097
Cu by all rights should be stronger than he is presented, but Irish myth never reaches the level of absurdity of Hindu myth.
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>Power levels don't matter in the Nasuverse!
>Nasu literally makes it canon that unless your favorite's DBZ power level is at the Sefar level your world gets pruned and they cease to even matter
what did he mean by this?
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>>166583434
>what Shirou does in FSN is an asspull
This should be a pop-up disclaimer at the start of the VN.
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Now that the dusk has settled, what is the /fgog/ verdict on the extella translation?
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>>166583446
Narration says Karna's only a step slower than Achilles, he has five Noble Phantasms and only three of them are in any way relevant, and Karna has no reason to use Vasavi when Kundala is more than sufficient. Achilles would die from it, so he needs to keep up his shield and can't attack. The absolute best Achilles can manage is a stalemate.

>>166583532
Krishna disagrees.

>>166583074
Karna wasn't even close to Galahad's pureness. He was a bit of a dick sometimes.
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>>166583750
>berserker Heracles wasn't even playable in Extella 1
>Mooncell did retarded shit like summon ''top servant'' Iskandar instead
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>>166583787
Grand Order timeline still exist,what did he mean by this?
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>>166583881
Mooncell is a DUDEfag.
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>>166583768
It's just a shitty anti immortality/anti healing noble phantasm

Even Gilgamesh has that shit
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>>166583196
The Hydra was immortal because it could regenerate so fast. Someone who takes 90% less damage has no need to regenerate that much.
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>>166582191
Alex was very very pretty in his youth. His constant use of his Zeus: God's Thunder NP where he gets buffer and manlier is what made him into what he looks now.
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>>166583768
>What does Harpe even do anyway?
Kills things
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>>166583937
Well that's generic but at least it's accurate, and of course Gil has it
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Can they handle Altera's race all by themselves?
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>>166583768
Kills immortal things.
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>>166572578
surprised no one did an edit of this yet.
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>>166583787
>your world gets pruned and they cease to even matter
>mfw my world still doesn't get pruned and still existed despite my favourite is weak

Feels good
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>>166583319
sauce
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>>166583941
>It could regenerate instantaneously
>It was instantaneously wiped out in turn
>can only reduce 90% damage
>will take instantaneously more damage than he'll be able to regenerate even with only 10% of each strike registering
I don't understand why this is a hard concept to grasp
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When will we see more of second cutest sword?
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>>166584082
HOLY SHIT. IS THAT A FUCKING-
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>>166583768
What's funny is that no matter what she gets that she doesn't deserve, she'll never do anything except job anyway.
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>>166583768
>What does Harpe even do anyway?
Wounds caused by Harpe cannot be healed by supernatural means. That's really just it. Super regeneration won't work, but mundane treatments will do fine.
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>Extra servants were already there
>top servants got summoned by the mooncell

Where the fuck did Medusa come from though?
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>>166584195
Who is the cutest sword anon?
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>>166584212
NIPPLE
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>>166584118
Andersen in Extella II when?
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I wanna do things to DUDE's Faker!
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Can Kiara solo Sefar?
Would BB beat Sefar?
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>>166584195
I always see it
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>>166584287
It even has a sword cape! I hope Gram get's a redesign so it can look as cute as her half brother
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>>166584371
Dunno about them, but I can.
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Archer Karna when?
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>>166584194
Because this is against someone who isn't just going to stand there and take it. Karna is noted to be among the fastest and most skilled in the franchise. If he's taking less damage and defending, it's not the same as a mindless monster that just keeps regenerating.
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Has any servant had a bigger fall from grace than Cu? Even in his "bullshit OP" form he's still a weakling compared to Karna
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>>166584371
(You) can beat Sefar.
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>>166584195
Reminder that Gil uses Durandal for his beam attack in Extella.
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>>166584287
Balmung
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>>166584232
Ana displayed herself fairly well in Babylon.
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>>166584447
After Berserker Enkidu
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>>166584457
>who isn't just going to stand there and take it
What part of instantaneous damage do you not get
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I really like this improved Ishtar

Would whale
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>>166584531
Durandal confirmed swordbeam. Although not as great as UNRIVALED's swordbeam, Gilfag.
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>>166584082
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>>166584531
I was suspecting that was Durandal but wasn't sure, I wonder if that's a low key confirmation that it does have a swordbeam in sword form or if they just picked a sword model at random for that attack without realizing that sword was already a named NP
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>>166584598
For a snek, maybe.
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I have the feeling we're gonna fight Goetia in the Challenge Quest.
>can repeat it as much as you want after beating it
>3 tickets
>level 90
>surprise class
>need to have completed Part 1, maybe to avoid spoilers
Goetia, a teaser of a EoR Servant or Barbatos.
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>>166584447
After 5* Guan Yu
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>>166584621
That it's not as instantaneous as you make it out to be. It's fast, but it's not like the damage is just teleporting onto your body.
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>>166584273
Look into how solo servants work

The only non solo servants are Tamamo and nero at first.

Mooncell is become new Earth, so mooncell summoned a bunch of random servants to fill out the world a bit
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Honnoji 2 soon
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So can we assumed Faker is going to be the class strong against Avenger?
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>>166584926
No.
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ARONDIGHT
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>Wannabe Melvin still trying this hard
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>>166584926
Where did Faker appear?
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>>166585006
LIMITLESS

ARONDIGHT IS LIMITLESS
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>>166584425
>>166584595
You guys are alright. Don't go to Rhine tomorrow.
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>>166584917
I'd like a Honnouji 2 with some of the other Koha Ace servants like Ryouma.
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>>166584768
>can solo him with Herk
Meh
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>>166584805
>It's instantaneous but it isn't instantaneous
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Please don't tell me the scythe Ana uses is Harpe too
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>>166584792
Fuck off that's my thing
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>No redman in faker class
???
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>>166584425
Fuck Excallibur, I want this!
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>>166585241
Anon, I...
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>>166585361
DON'T TELL ME
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>>166585101
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>>166584531
He sure used Durandal alot,its his second square attack right?
>>166584667
Its is Durandal,but yeah they just picked it out of random I guess.Not like he was releasing its True Name or something
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>>166585219
Because it's not instantaneous. It may be fast, but it's not instantaneous. The only time it's ever been seen was a nerfed version that almost failed to deliver all of its strikes. Until we see Alcides actually use it, it's pointless to argue.
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>>166584926
Can we assume our Kojiro qualify as Faker ?
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>>166585453
If he uses Durandal personally so much that means Durandal is confirmed not shit right? It's better than Durindana right right?
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>>166585423
Yep, it's true.
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>>166585423
She can't use it as the full np anyway

Her np is "caress of medusa"
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>>166585606
Nothing is confirmed.
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>>166585505
>A AGI servant didn't have time to react to a ranked down version
I hope you understand now
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>>166585423
It is Harpe.
Ana is cute though, she gets a free pass.
>>
Just got Dantes and Ibaraki Douji

Already have Tamamo Cat and Beowulf for Berserkers and Jalter for Avenger

Should I bother lvling them?
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Huh, interesting stuff in the encyclopedia. All Servants summoned by the Moon Cell in Extella are given an Anti-Army technique called an Extella Maneuver, and collecting three Phantasm Circuits gives Servants without an Anti-Army level NP an Anti-Army NP, and powers up those who already do have one.
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>>166585715
>Just got Dantes
Die
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What about this weird cutie when are we getting the guy that uses this?
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>She sees your dick
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>>166585715
Why are you rolling when you question whether you should level the servant on rate up?
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>>166585715
Why did you roll for Dantès if you don't want to level him ?
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>>166585772
Is that a kidney stone on a skewer?
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>>166585715
low_quality_bait.jpg
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>>166585675
>a blind, skinless A AGI servant who got distracted by his former master so that the last strike would connect didn't have time to react

And Karna is stated to only be a step slower than Achilles, the fastest servant.
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>>166585715
>Jalter

Kill yourself
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>>166585715
Ibaraki is a strictly better Beowulf IMO.
So i'd level her.
Level dantes if you like him.
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>>166585812
>>166585809
>>166585753
I was bored since I havent rolled for a while so I did a 10 roll and got bot of them

Also why the fuck did so much people get triggered holy shit
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>>166585505
Fucking Herk couldn't avoid a trash version of NL used by a human with a Servant arm attached to him.
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>>166585772
It's a sword made by the dwarfs. Why would you want that?
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>>166585978
Beowulf does more damage for his NP turn, especially if he can BBC, but Ibaraki has better support options and consistent damage.

>>166586079
See >>166585958
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>>166586030
4chan is autism
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>>166586112
It brings misfortune to the owner I want to see some suffering
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>>166585958
>who got distracted by his former master

That was after Shirou used NL, Herk still had one life left and was going to attack Shirou.
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>>166586030
You nonchalantly rolled a limited 5* that many want. Obviously some will be triggered.
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>>166585645
At this rate she'll qualify for a Faker of Perseus.
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>>166586213
Ah, that's why Gil's so unfortunate. He owns that thing.
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>>166584595
I want to marry this sword holy shit.
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>>166586030
How long have you played this game?
If you had, you'd know that people get upset for wasting tons of quartz and never getting what they want, to the point they can only feel anger if someone else gets it.
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>>166586310
>Perseus was genderbent Medusa all along
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>Medusa has used Harpe, Pegasus, and that bag that held her head. all of these things that played a roll in he death
Archer Tamamo one?
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>>166586310
what is this faker meme?
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>>166585958
>Only be a step slower
So? Does that magically rank up his AGI stat? No it doesn't. If a garbage version of NL was enough to decimate one A AGI servant then the full power version will straight up butcher Karna.
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>>166586226
And if she didn't do that, then Shirou would've been killed. Keep in mind this isn't a sane Herc taking this attack. He had already gone mad and he was blind. With only one life left, he survived most of the attack, taking full damage, and almost counter attacked until distracted.
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>>166586580
Faker is a new class, for body doubles
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>>166586030
Maybe because it's stupid to roll for a servant you don't want to level. You're a retard, but a lucky retard. You got a servant a lot of people failed to get and you're considering not even using him, of course that's going to piss people off.
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>>166586705
Fugg, where can I read more about it?
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>>166586705
Why Benkei and Musashi aren't Fakers then?
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>>166586596
Stats aren't concrete. Karna's got A-Rank AGI, yes, but so does Achilles who is the fastest Servant full stop. He's clearly at the top end of A-Rank.
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>>166585772
Symphogear collab when?
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>>166586596
If a Garbage version of NL was able to land 8 hits against a blind berserk target that was distracted so the last hit could connect*
Nine lives is fast but it not-only hit a target that didn't bother defending against it it was too slow to land 8 strikes before Herc would smash open Shirou's head.
Until we see the Real herc use it properly we can only work off the nerfed version which could only land 8 strikes in a single second.
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>>166586596
This is a sane Karna you're comparing to a blind, mad Herc who almost survived without his skin. Karna has armor and his own wits, Herc had less than nothing.

If two servants have A AGI, one can be faster than the other. And muddy Herc was just charging forward toward without thinking.
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>ANTI-STAR NOBLE PHANTASM

How can Excalibur/Ea compete?
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>>166586927
>that was distracted
>Literally confirming that you haven't read HF
Nothing more to say to you
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>>166586831
Achilles have A+ AGI and his Comet form when he isn't in chariot.
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>>166587046
Illya drew his attention, which is why the last hit from Nine Lives Blade Works connected at all before Herc could retaliate.
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>>166586927
>we can only work off the nerfed version which could only land 8 strikes in a single second
>when we know a non nerfed version landed a 100 at once
Secondary pls
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>>166587046
That is what happened though.
Illya poped out last second and distracted herc.
Atleast that's what i remember, i read HF about a year or two ago.
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>>166586491
Would Perseus bully Medusa and her other forms.
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>>166587136
And yet Karna's only a step slower.
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>>166585342
>implying nigga Emiya won't be Grand Faker
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>>166586830
Because musashi isn't a fake or body double, that's just misinformation you keep spreading.

She's real musashi, from another world. She says her history all lines up except for one thing involving her dad
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>>166587171
>At once.
Don't materials hyperbole shit alot? shit like "Achilles could cross an entire battlefield in a heartbeat" or "3-crane-wing realm is an unbeatable combination"
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>>166587136
And Karna's still only a step slower even with that.
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>>166587146
>>166587192
Shirou used NL and it didn't kill him, Heracles went to cleave Shirou in half but Ilya came between them which made him stop and allowed shirou to pierce his heart with the still projected Axe Sword
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I don't like you when you're like this, /fgog/.
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>>166587367
So, He was distracted?
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>>166587467
>Landed 8 hits against him before he was distracted
>landed 1 after he was distracted
>HE WAS DISTRACTED THE WHOLE TIME
Holy shit only now do I realize how cancerous you Karnafags are
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>>166587465
I want to go back to talking about cute weapons.
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>>166587465
Well I have no interest in powerlevels so I'm just not posting what would you want me to do talk about who has the best ass powerlevel?
It might or might not be Carmilla
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>>166587568
I'm not a karnafag, I don't have strong feelings for him either way but from what my reading comprehension made me understand the scene was that with each slash Herc got a little closer and closer, and before Shirou could finish him off he was about to lop his head off until Illya came out.
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>>166587465
Is there shitposting going on? I thought it was dead since I don't see anything.

Sweet.
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>>166587606
Does this make me look fat?
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>>166587723
Battle continuation + guts + super armor ability
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>>166587720
Jack's got my vote.
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>>166586491
Because she fucking is. Nasu was going for Perseus before Takeuchi told him they needed another girl and turned him into "Medusa" except he changed nothing of the character besides adding tits.
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Is Mo-san good for anything but door farming? I'm wondering if I should level her skills.
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>>166587465
Oh boohoo too fucking bad lizfag
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>>166587864
>super armor ability
Didn't he lose god hand while he was BLACKED?
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>>166587885
Jack honestly gets overwanked in fanart because her outfit highlights it, it's not really all that big she's got child proportions still.
Don't get me wrong I'd bang her and I love the big butt art, but it's just false advertising.
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>>166587568
No one said he was distracted the whole time. There are several posts saying that he was distracted for the last hit.
>>
How old is Olga Marie in FGO?
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>>166587864
>Battle continuation + guts
Aren't those the same thing?
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>>166588020
Eternal subject to debate because not clarified and shit writing
>Shirou projects Axe Sword
>Shirou projects NL (should be impossible, he has never seen it)
>NL should be ranked down and do no damage
>It does damage
Fate is a mess in the battles with Heracles in routes 1 and 3
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>>166587367
>Ilya came between them
lol
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>>166587905
But Perseus couldn't turn people to stone, could he?
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>>166587208
>In before he wants to fuck them instead
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>>166588020
He was missing his skin, so probably.
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>>166588157
Well the evidence points to the lack of God-hand.
And hell, he has EMIYA's UBW armory so it's possible EMIYA's seen Nine lives.
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>>166587367
>Ilya came between them
lol that wikia resume sure was wrong, secondary scum
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>>166588194
He could because he had medusa head
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>>166588020
It's never mentioned anywhere that he doesn't have God Hand. Some people made the assumption it wasn't active because of his skin, but that's also based on the assumption God Hand is tied to his skin. It's never really addressed, so we have nothing but conjecture.
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>>166588425
Well he was able to be hurt by a "Unranked" NP, and he already lost all his lives to Excalibur Morgan.
I'd say he either lost God-hand or it's ability to negate B ranked attacks was lost.
>>
>people will STILL defend Nasu's shit writing
>>
>>166588552
No one in this thread is defending it though.
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>>166588528
It makes sense, but it's still just an assumption, and we're never really going to get anything more concrete than that. We don't know what kind of bullshit reason Nasu could come up with for Shirou's attack.
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I love Hector.
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>>166588020
Yeah, the VN didn't explicity state "he lost God Hand because he has no skin". But as Shirou explained, blacked Berserker has no skin and his body was literally the Noble Phantasm, so it didn't work.
>>
>painstaking level of money needed to do so nearly bankrupted them, and they ended up going far over budget for a TV series. It got so bad, at least 10 other animation studios came in to help bail them out to prevent them from shutting down.

Is this why Miura got kicked out?
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I like Siegfried
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>>166587720
Rama
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>>166588275
If Emiya has seen NL why didn't he used it ? Killing Herk 9 times and leaving him unable to move, then kill him 3 more times should be easy as hell.

All the fights against Herk are bullshit because he is too strong and has to lose someway.
>>
>>166589007
Emiya hasn't seen NL. Shirou projecting it is an asspull
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>>166588886
>That Achilles
>>
Literally a dead fucking game
>>
>>166589007
That would mean Nine-lives Protected by EMIYA could go past God hand. Which in my Theory it cannot.
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>>166589007
>Killing Herk 9 times and leaving him unable to move, then kill him 3 more times should be easy as hell.
Because normal berserk Herk isn't blinded and has more control over his body than shadow Herk who we are not even sure has God Hand to say NL killed him 8 times.
>>
>>166589007
Archer Shirou says he has seen Angra Mainyu before, but when?
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>>166588902
I thought about how wildly the hercock is flailing around under his man skirt in that scene but then I remember greeks liked small dicks so he probably had one too
>>
>>166585342

well, who is he impersonating?

just go back to your throne man
>>
> As a reward, the king offered him the chance to perform sexual intercourse with all fifty of his daughters in one night. Heracles complied and they all became pregnant and all bore sons. This is sometimes referred to as his Thirteenth Labour.

Reminder Heracles can use Nine Lives with his dick
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>>166588886
RIP achilles.
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>>166587720
This bird.

Why in the fuck did I even save this?
>>
>>166589218
>Canon manliest character
Not likely
>>
>>166584926
Alterego has type advantage over avengers. Rulers beat Alteregos. That's the third class triangle.
>>
>>166587465
What's the strongest servant she can beat?
>>
>>166589295
Quickshot lol.
>>
>>166589393
He was the manliest but that was by the standards of masculinity of his era, and in his era upstanding manly men had tiny penises.
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>>166589218
They thought big dicks meant you are a slut
Seeing how many people he fucked I'd say he's huge
>>
>>166589457
>In the story of Fate Heracles is the manliest servant
are you retarded
>>
>>166589457
>>166589218
Big cock is a meme for insecure beta males to feel strong because they get the impression of impressing or dominating a female,
its the only time they can feel alpha; in bed with a woman with their big cock because otherwise no one cares about them
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>>166588981
I want Rama to sit on my face
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>>166589401
Andersen at best lol
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>>166588981
>tfw you have better ass than you're waifu
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>>166589576
What car do you drive?
>>
>>166589617
xD
>>
>>166589617
If she fights Andersen, she'll just end up being the subject to his masturbation session and end up in his journal. She won't even get a +. So really, she'll lose.
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>>166589745
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>>166589601
I want Rama to sit on Sita's face.
>>
>Scathach seems to be hiding another form and took all of her students combined to try beating her during their graduation exam.
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>>166589945
he could probably sit on both faces with room to spare
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>>166589576
>implying it isn't to impress and dominate a male
A male is going to care more, too, because you can dwarf him. A woman's not comparing herself to you when you whip your dick out. As long as the size isn't so small it isn't even stimulating they often don't care.
Big cock is for asserting dominance over fellow males. This is also why trapfags generally prefer dicklet traps.
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>>166589745
I don't need a car to impress anyone, cars and cock sizes are a way for beta males to appear alpha
>>
Man
I just want an event that gives out Dragon Scales
>>
>>166589401
Well, she can handle serious Gilgamesh by herself.
>>
>>166585241
A-anon...
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>>166589953
if all of her students together beat her, does the right by conquest fuck still apply?
>>
>>166590157
Gilgamesh is a gateway servant, if you beat him you are good if you lose then you aren't worth summoning
>>
>>166590119
I just wanted /fgog/ to not be a retarded shithole for change.
>>
>>166590082
I'm already impressed
You can fuck my waifu anytime
>>
New bread?
>>
>>166590079
>dicklet traps
Those are the worst. If you make it a man then give it at least a decent sized dick, not an over sized clit.
>>
>>166590119
Mats are one thing, but I'd rather have an event that gives shitloads of QP.
>>
>>166590294
He's going to get his wish eventually.
You are not.
>>
>>166590337
Don't try to resonate with trapfags, they are gays but refuse to aknoweldge it hiding behind the "feminine penis xddd" and other "girl (male)" shit.
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>>166590119
>tfw 166 scales and nothing to spend them on
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Wow, you guys weren't kidding.
Jaguar Man really does get the best art.
>>
>>166590548
I'll trade you hearts for em
>>
>>166590337
Fucking this. Traps are nice because they're cute like girls but have dicks, and I can't suck no tiny dick.
>>
>>166590662
Gay
>>
>>166590538
But I like traps. Its just that if I'm fapping to whats technically a man then I want to see that when they're naked.

>>166590662
He gets it.
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>>166590649
man, I fucking wish
who do you even need scales for anyway? I only recall spending them on Alter
>>
>>166590538
Then there're those futafags who jerk it to a small girl with a gigantic throbbing cock the size of a gorilla's arm and act like there's nothing homosexual at all about masturbating to what is essentially a giant penis with a girl attached to it.
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>>166589352
LEWD
E
W
D
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>>166585772
Got your guy right here
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>>166583918
Goetia was going to remake the universe along with Earth. The aliens are shitter in comparison.
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>>166598614
Goetia was going to make the universe great again, fuck Solomon, he rigged it for the so called "humans" and their so called "history"
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