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/shmupg/ - Shoot 'Em Up General Anonymous

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This general is for discussing all shmups/stgs (shoot 'em ups/shooting type games).

Previous thread: >>166069226


Need something to play? Check this shit out: https://mega.nz/#!mlwG3ZCJ!NMdWxNY4pjqc1vFGwzyPIbtGor0GHObcfENNMgOQW1s

Join us on Steam! http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shmupg

>RECENT RELEASES:

Caladrius Blaze
http://store.steampowered.com/app/386770/

DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu
http://store.steampowered.com/app/464450/

Mecha Ritz Steel Rondo
http://store.steampowered.com/app/463070

RefRain
http://store.steampowered.com/app/435970/

Shmups Skill Test
http://store.steampowered.com/app/430290/

WITCH-BOT MEGLILO:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/437020/

Blue Revolver
http://store.steampowered.com/app/439490/

>UPCOMING RELEASES:

Xydonia
http://www.indiedb.com/games/xydonia

iMalice
http://amamoriya.gozaru.jp/imalice/

Go Go Burunyanman Ecstasy!!! Steam-Edition
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660224194

Zangeki Warp - 1/26/2017

Other links
STG stream aggregator: https://stgrillz.appspot.com/

/shmupg/ high-score list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K0DesawgMQiFNMv2MZxxwdjzBudCIMMb3BkjQJaHjxI/edit?usp=sharing

/shmupg/ community YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp2e9X5tR9BLdSlIGjzftDA
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Danmaku Unlimited 3 March 9th, 2017
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>>166570081
How come we don't use the final posts in the last thread to suggest new stuff to put in the OP?
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2nd for stage 3

some day im gonna stop restarting stage 2 over and over again and actually make some progress with the game again
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4th for DOJ best game
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My on exposure to DDP is from streams and the iOS game. Worth jumping into the first game or should I shoot straight for the second?
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>>166572995
you mean donpachi? sure, it's worth playing, not a bad shmup at all.
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Bahmpu
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Any non-doujin/indie shmups slated for release in 2017? No ports.
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>>166579772
Natsuki Chronicle
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>>166581056
That seems to be Xbox only at the moment right? I didn't see any mention of a PC/Steam release
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>>166582154
Only Xbox has been announced so far, I think it's an exclusive. Hopefully it eventually makes its way to PC, it seems like such a waste to release a new shmup for only Xbox.
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>>166582380
>it seems like such a waste to release a new shmup for only Xbox.
Seeing as Scorpio is going to be a successor to the Xbone, we can assume shmups for it will get ported to PC by next year, maybe?
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>>166582695
Qute already has shmups on PC through Degica so it wouldn't surprise me. I hope they bring Ginga Force.
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>>166582695
gibsmedat Raiden V
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>>166586273
Oh... so it is karma that keeps Casper flat... gotcha.
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help i can't nmnb blackheart2
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>>166565387
DKA is chinese though
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>>166588192
He isn't too bad with good rng, you just gotta learn the sweeping vulcan
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I'm so tired, to play ccwi more, fuck this.
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>my te+ doenst work with any shmups on my steam library
fukk
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>>166588307
I thought everything outside of Japan is "western"...
Anyway... I can't even clear the game yet, so I really wouldn't call me the best in west.
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>>166587891
Maybe someday...
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>>166589129
>I thought everything outside of Japan is "western"...

Jesus the education system really is in steep decline, sad.
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>>166589129
Everything outside of the east coast of the usa is western.
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SHUMPS!
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pew pew
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Does this count a shmoops?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdFd-4XN8EU
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Zangeki warp delayed, release date pending volvo's approval.
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What's a good shmup on the NES besides Gradius?
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>>166588983
jesus, how is this original? i guess that's what you get for scoring.
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>>166588983
lmao it's ez
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>>166605603
No
Galaga
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>>166605603
The Guardian Legend if you can find it in your heart to count it.
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>>166605906
it's just last phase, would be easier if you use break mode there
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What do you guys think about run n' gun games, especially ones with (semi) free aim? Is having too many controls bad? Gigantic Army and Intrusion come to mind
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>>166607842
>What do you guys think
i think they're f u n
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New thread, yay.

>>166603690
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/updates/787972790/1485376436
God fucking dammit.
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hey harry http://store.steampowered.com/app/564150/
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>>166607096
Okay besides that and Xevious as well.

>>166607268
Hmm... maybe. Looks like a few shmup segments intertwined with a twin-stick like shooter. Or maybe like Zelda with a gun.

>>166608390
Oh shit that's nice. I still have to stream a Grolla run, and the sequel too... sometime. Hasn't really been convenient for me to stream stuff for the past few weeks.
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>>166543306
I was too late to post last thread, but thanks anon! This is exactly what I was looking for.
It's a shame they don't have the DDP DOJ WL poster, but the black label one is nice too
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>>166583831
I'm waiting for this to not be stupidly expensive
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Once more!
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>>166605603
Any... other suggestions here?
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>>166605603
Over Horizon, SCAT, Crisis Force, Section Z, Abadox
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die jobbu
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>>166619497
Thanks, I'll check 'em out. I tried Over Horizon for a bit tonight. Stage 2 boss is a cool idea, as are the ice sliding blocks in Stage 3. I'm not exactly a shmup connoisseur, but I've never really played a shmup with intractable terrain like that.
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>gave some dude on twitch infos/links on how to play greg
>one_month_later.jpg
>he's still shit, doesn't even know the basics
>he bought the PCB
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>>166623784
>he's still shit
>he bought the PCB
Dadcore to the max.
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>>166605603
Zanac, Gun-nac, Star Soldier
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>>166624675
thickkk
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https://www.twitch tv/softdrink_117
bombaaa
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>>166627296
>softdrink
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>>166627296
more like soft twink.
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He has ADD
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fish I guess
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>>166629050
nah, just a standard cuck.
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>>166607842
I like them a lot for the most part, playing adventures of batman on genesis atm it's very hard but addictive somehow.
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>>166629050
watch out you're about to trigger a cee rant about how ADD doesn't exist and it was created by the jews to exploit americans
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>>166631324
What a strange sentence that doesn't apply to me at all, i'm pro Israel for a start as for ADD well it's a very vague hard to define "condition" which american big pharma do like many things exploit to sell meds. No other country in the world has all the conditions, illnesses and drug dependency that america does. Last point might be a reference to yuri bezmenov who was 100% right on everything he said, you'd have to be pretty zombiefied to not see it. I know you aren't particularly bright and clearly not much of a reader but this book is a great read if you can handle words longer than 5 letters. https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986212
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>>166624675
bullshit rng
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>>166631324
I think that ADD does exist, but only in very rare cases.

>>166632230
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/0743237870/ this is also pretty good
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>>166632885
*not cee
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>>166632885
Right so you pretty much share my views and approach to mental illness and therefore understand how easy it is for corporate pharma to exploit it aswell as exploiting the appeal to authority that comes with the blind trust many give to "dr" titles, so what's the problem? I take it you're not the dumb fuck who has to rationalize in inaccurate stereotypes to attack me who posted previously. The thing with many mental illnesses is as soon as you request objective neurological evidence you soon see how it all falls apart.
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>>166623784
most PCB collectors are shit players anyway
I only respect PCB owners who know what they buy and play their games properly, the rest of the PCB crowd is just useless hipster nerds whos only action on the community is to crank the prices up. Same goes for console collector (lol at Garegga and Radiant on Saturn, every single non-player retro collector nerd has them on shelf catching dust).
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what the fug?!?!?!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVSs_0JZiZM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diWykmWv38M
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>>166638121
Oh cool, another dbcs DLC no one gives a fuck about. Can they please stop milking this shit game and port/dev a new shmup? jesus christ
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>>166638413
whether or not you like dbcs, it's encouraging that they somehow got the ability to use long dead capcom shit. maybe progear pc port isn't a complete impossibility.
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>>166638323
Looks like a really boring game.
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>>166638121
Why dont Capcom port Progear to PC instead? If they could make DLC there's no reason to not do it
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>>166639268
>PC
lmao

ps4 m2 port nigga
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>>166639747
>local dad shits are console users
rly makes u think
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Local dad shits hate PC gaming with a passion, not just because of steam's DRM but... they just hate pc gaming.

Most of them bought the garegga premium box anyways despite complaining about "muh physical disk". They desperately need something to put on their shelfs just to not play/touch it ever again. Once in a while they play a credit or two and stream via PS4's streaming service just to type "stab and stomp Kreygasm", "garegga so hard :OO" and "the rank is unforgiving!" in chat just to feel a little bit better about themselves.
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>>166638121
that mecha game looks really good
never heard of this before
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>>166632230
>i'm pro Israe
Jesus fuck, l knew you were stupid but I never assumed you were a flat out retard.
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>>166642546
DAE jews? XD the goy knows LMAO
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Casper likes meat huh? Well, i've got something very meaty for her :)
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oh shit
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>>166647913
Nice, hope Maldita Castilla EX didn't give him any ideas and it'll stay free at least on initial release
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>>166647913
hype
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It's so difficult to always keep improving your routes. I just stay at route at some point, because I can't even manage this one consistently. But when you try to improve your routes then some day, it makes it even harder to adjust yourself.
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>>166647913
Just got to the end of the boss rush, this game is a blast.
>That fucking fist boss that goes full metal when you kill it

>>166648345
I dunno about Maldita Castilla EX (didn't like the original) but I would gladly pay for this game
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RIP
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What's this thread doing without Ryuujou?
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>>166656171
Helisluts >> Shipsluts
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>>166656779
So you say, who's your favorite Helislut and who's your favorite Shipslut then?
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>>166656857
Not that anon and I don't know anything about the former but of the latter Musashi is best shipfu.
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>>166647216
Bad idea
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Hey, this level looks stage! Looks like a classic Darius stage! It sure was worth playing through 11 stages to see something nice like this!
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>>166660736
O-oh... it's G.T.V

Guess what happened.
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>>166660841
you no missed it?
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>>166642546
The only good thing about Israel is it makes a good containment zone for nuking a bunch of jews off the map.
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>>166660841
Shit, didn't post the picture!

>>166661617
N-not quite...
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>>166664954
Whales are friends. Peaceful, majestic beasts that just want to eat, sleep and sing.
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I'm in a mood for a CCWI stream.

twitch tv/infirex
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>>166671447
I love birds!
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>>166642219
>>166640642
t. local poorfag shits who can't play anything that isn't on MAME

lmao at ur lifes
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1cc ccwi never
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non shitty run never
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good score ccwi never
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What keeps getting deleted?
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>>166677418
birds
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Which Regga ship is best for a beginner?
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>>166678078
I think most dads like la-z-boys
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>>166667117
Stream's over. I managed to no-miss the first 4 stages for the first time today and I think it was the very first run I've done.

Thanks for watching.

>inb4 change the ship
>inb4 give up because muh rng

I've got this.
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>>166678505
Just practice stage 5 now.
If you manage to do good at stage (+ bosses/tlb) then you might have a chance.
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>>166679614
Yeah, I'll need to optimise the final boss a bit because the strategy I have for its 2nd phase now seems very risky when I get this far. Basically, I go into Double Break mode before the pattern starts to end the phase as quickly as possible.

I'll try out not using Double Break mode for the entire fight. If that won't work, then I'll just use it way earlier, so that I return to normal in time.
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>>166680489
for the final boss you should save both breaks for the pattern where you died last time
on the first pattern just point blank him and do constant lock ons, while going left/right quickly

also, when lock-on spamming, you do not need to raid fire lock-on
the most effective way to lock on spam is short burst
you always tap lock ons very fast, but like this your lock on net doesnt get fully over the enemy even when very close
you have to hold lock on for like 0.3 seconds or so
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>>166678078
golden bat, 80% of the total clears can't be wrong
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why are westerners so bad at ccwi? nobody even plays the game...
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>>166680906
>for the final boss you should save both breaks for the pattern where you died last time
I'm kinda skeptical about this one because I've tried this approach in the past, but it didn't work. Maybe I didn't do lock-on spam at the time, so that may be the reason why it didn't work.

>you always tap lock ons very fast, but like this your lock on net doesnt get fully over the enemy even when very close
you have to hold lock on for like 0.3 seconds or so
Okay, I'll try this out when I'll practice. Thanks for the help!
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It's really just all about the name who made a game.
I'm sure if Cave made CCWI everyone would be all over it.
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I'm really sad, /shmupg/
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>>166689668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSIQZFSzyk4
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>>166689668
Don't be sad!
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ShumpmuhS
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German and Japanese are the only races I respect.
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>>166607806
i know, it just looks too busy, thick. maybe becouse of your score or maybe i just never paid attention to notice that it's spoopy looking.
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>>166696940
scoring is the only autistic special interest i respect
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>>166700489
Rabbits are assholes
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>>166685574
Bullshit
Most cave games have even less players than ccwi
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presented by CAKE
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>>166708613
Purosentedo baiyo..... CAY-BOO
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>>166689668
No one cares
So shut up, thanks.
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The farm is dead
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>>166711963
Only if you stop believing in our ability to make peace with the fish.
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How long is Zangeki Warp?
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>>166715062
i hope no longer than an hour, how can anyone play shmups and other high difficulty games for more than that without resting is beyond me.
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>>166715557
24-36min seem to be just about right for a shmup with the higher end of that spectrum being if it has a secret boss or something.

Sub 16 seems too short to me and when you breach 40 it gets to be too draining.
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>>166715705
>24-36min seem to be just about right for a shmup
not just shmups but hard action games in general. i'm playing shinobi iii on expert, and it's hard to concentrate after 40 minutes, i almost start to wish to game over asap to end this all desu senpai, but the game gives you so much lifes, maybe i should start doing 1 life runs.
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https://www.twitch tv/aum_aun
Ikaruga high level
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>>166718603
it's over btw, but keep it in your favs
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patchy, we need you
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>>166721223
Nah, call Reimu instead.
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So, what's wrong about being a 1cc collector again?
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good night /shmupg/
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>>166721571
instead of improving your skills you just keep doing things of roughly the same difficulty repeatedly. Of course it is fine to make that choice for your personal enjoyment but I personally find that boring, so I'm also not very interested in players that do that
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>>166721571
nothing if they go for 2-all
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>>166723053
Most 1cc collectors stop at 2-1
They suck
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>>166707336
That's because all the top players already have them on xbox360 and shmuppers are too hipster to play on steam
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>>166721571
Getting a good score in a game with deep scoring system is wayyyyyyy harder than collecting 1ccs.
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>>166724312
> all the top players
they were talking about westerners
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>>166724564
Players like Gus, Pazzy, or Jaimers are top players in certain Cave games.
They have very good scores in some games.
In CCWI there are no western top players though (except for Erppo in Boost maybe idk).
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>>166724658
>jaimers with gus and pazzy
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>>166724823
Jaimers has an Ura clear in Ketsui. That should be a good score afaik.
His scores in CCWI are pathetic compared to the top scores though.
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>>166724895
>>166724823
Also, he has the western record in Dangun feveron, which should be a good score too.
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>>166724895
>>166724942
and URA clear in Ketsui is not a good score by default, not comparable to pazzy in any way.
honestly I don't know danguun very well but "western record" means literally nothing
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Galaga on matmouse
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>>166725026
Ok, then Jaimers is perhaps not a top player, however the west still has a some good players.
Pazzy, Gus, Plasmo, etc all have very good scores in the games they play.
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>>166724312
>>166724429
>>166724564
>>166724658
>>166724823
>>166724895
>>166724942
>>166725026
>>166725610


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUkgRAy_Vo
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>>166725814
you probably just quoted mroe than half the posters of this thread
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>>166725610
Also, Iconoclast has some really good scores in Saidaiojou
However, in CCWI, his score is weak compared to japanese players.
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Twitch now allows arcade titles in the "Now Playing" field, possibly thanks to my Redditor friend.
Great for PCB players and maybe MAME players, doesn't matter for the rest.
Have a nice day.
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I'm entering Lube 2 guise. My body is ready!
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>>166722284
But what about clearing really hard shmups? Some 1cc collectors deserve recognition but not as much as scores or people that NMNB games.
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>>166728149
>Some 1cc collectors deserve recognition
Definitely. It's pretty amazing how fast some people can 1cc games. But still, it would be even better if they used their talent to score well.
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>>166728149
>Some 1cc collectors deserve recognition
idk if they deserve it, but it's still uninteresting to me personally when they don't push for their limits
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>>166728612
what if the 1cc is your limit?
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>>166728708
then you can't be a collector.
Also you can't know your limits beforehands, so if you're playing a game to 1cc and then quit for the next game you're most certainly not attempting to push your limits
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>>166728708
that's bullshit becouse if you can survive later levels you can afford to score a little in easy parts. i tihnk when people talk about 1cc collectors they don't refer to people with lots of clears, but rather to play who never attempt scoring even in early stages and just insta drop game after 1-all.
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FINALLY!!! Finally my first clear in this game!
Even if it was just with Type Z and the score was mediocre, that felt fucking good.
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>>166731645
congratulations!
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>>166731842
Thank you!

I had some bad fuck ups in stage 5, especially on the last part and the tlb. Otherwise it could have been my PB I think. Stage 4 boss got milked like a boss this time though.
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>>166731645
Nice one, dude.
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>>166731645
Awesome work.
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>>166721571
literally nothing
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>>166731645
lmao, i did it in 100 hours with similar score
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>>166735327
prove it
also, even if you did, I'm mainly a Type I player. I just recently started with Type Z.
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Did Reco get older between the first and second game (to possibly explain her 'development') or is she still 15?
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>>166735570
not 100, but around 150, i spent much hours in novice mode
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>>166735760
prove it, or stfu
in contrary to you I actually played the game for score
if I just wanted a clear I also could have done it 100 hours or less
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>>166735889
>>166114842
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>>166736095
Oh, it's the retard I kicked out of the top ten TWICE in a row? LMAO
Come back when you reach even remotely my Type I score, because that was what I was playing for 90% of the time, dumbfuck. Which is a lot more difficult than Type Z.
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>>166736095
This triggers the kraut
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>>166736593
He is just butthurt because I kicked him out of the top 10 although I barely even played his ships.
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>>166736456
>s a lot more difficult
for you
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>>166737092
Post your Type I score or STFU, asshole
The only western player who is still better than me at Type I is Iconoclast
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>>166737027
just give me another 300 hours and i will get better result
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>>166731645
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>>166737263
stop talking and prove it, dumbfuck
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>>166737445
you need stop swearing
i didn't saying anything bad about you
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>>166738075
>i didn't saying anything bad about you
stfu, hypocrite, you were trying to make fun of me
go and fuck your mother in the ass, fucking scrub
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>>166738075
he is really triggered, literally shaking right now tbqh
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>shmupg scrubs mad as fuck because they eat my dick in ccwi
LMAO
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>>166738620
Really do not understand why. I did not mean he is bad player or something
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>>166739030
>>shmupg scrubs
who are you
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>>166739149
You were laughing at me for clearing the game just now
Stop acting like an innocent
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>>166739246
Your biggest nightmare, kiddo!
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>>166739598
>Your biggest nightmare, kiddo!
You're an anthropomorphic futa centaur?
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>>166741923
>anthropomorphic futa centaur
>Biggest nightmare
What are you? Gay?
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>>166744414
It's a night mare.
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Define "1CC collector"
All the definitions of it that I've seen sound too vague. Does being a "1CC collector" mean never playing a game past getting a 1CC, playing only for survival, or something else?
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>>166745058
Some games i want 1cc with all ships, not worrying about score.
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>>166745058
Players who clear a lot of games, mostly by spaming bombs, not caring much about score or beauty of routes. They tend to drop a game right after clearing it and not pushing them forward. Generally not venturing further than 2-2 in looping games. Not bad players at all, but not very exciting to follow and watch.
I guess.

They're still way better than 90% of western community which seems to be all about collecting games, raging over lolis in shmups and other stuff farmers and local dads love to argue about.

Shmup western community is like 90% useless non-or-barely-players, 9% 1cc collectors, 1% scorers. Only a handful of the scorers are actually good. Thanksfully the scorer niche tends to be growing the last fews years.
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>>166746378
>They're still way better than 90% of western community which seems to be all about collecting games
It might have to do with the mentality that "once you see the ending and credits, you've finished the game". I don't know what might mitigate this besides maybe making the "good ending" (and credits) locked behind a certain score amount or something. I don't think there's any good way to motivate people to push to the extreme with scoring though, the game just has to click with them and make them want to continue. Maybe achievement systems might help, but I dunno. They certainly helped me in Deathsmiles to set score goals for myself but the highest score achievement is still less than half of the WR for any character, so...

On a side note, I recall seeing a few people, obviously not familiar with shmups, complaining about either Mushihimesama or Deathsmiles after they came to Steam for being "only 30 minutes long".
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>>166746378
>Shmup western community is like 90% useless non-or-barely-players, 9% 1cc collectors, 1% scorers
>Only a handful of the scorers are actually good
>Thanksfully the scorer niche tends to be growing the last fews years
*citation needed
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>>166747664
just look at the farm
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>>166747554
I firmly believe that getting stage end ranks would push some people towards self-improvement. A big fat "F" at the end of a level speaks for itself, simply a score does not. With scoring it's hard to know how well you're doing without researching it. The effect would probably be minimal though, you either get satisfaction from playing for score/until you feel like you've mastered a game or you don't.
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>>166748758
Yeah, maybe. I totally didn't skirt through all the Mega Man Zero games with D ranks or anything.
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>>166747554
>It might have to do with the mentality that "once you see the ending and credits, you've finished the game"
I think it rather has to do with the amount of time you have to put into scoring. Not everyone wants to play a single game for a whole year or so. They want to play all shmups not just a handfull of them, which is totally understandable.
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again
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>>166752162
Why don't you try hard?
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Aand another clear! This time even with my new Type Z PB!
I think I'm finally getting the hang of Type Z. Just took me a single try to do it again.
No-missed all the way to stage 5 boss, but man I really need to practice that TLB...
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>>166755987
well done!
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Is it just me or does Blue Revolver ship movement feel "off"? I don't know what it is but something doesn't feel right with it.
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>>166758846
it's 2fast
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>>166755987
this is a big score
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>>166758846
play a good shmup instead
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>>166758028
Thanks!

>>166759241
Well, it's still not even half of the top score, so not really (no idea how the top players do this).
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>>166758846
are you feeling input lag?
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>>166762514
No I think it is like >>166759173
is saying. I think it is just too fast.
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>>166758846
The ship and shot doesn't really have a big visual indicator for transitioning into focused movement, it feels very CAVE aside from the feedback though.
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>>166764050
>input feels too fast
getting used to having less input lag is a lot easier than getting used to having more input lag
i dont think that this is the problem
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>>166731645
Congrats, Kraut!
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>>166765716
T-thanks!
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>input feels too fast
lmao @ ur life if you're actually complaining about a lack of input lag.
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>>166768090
today is my birthday btw
good timing just now clearing the game
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CCWI really could give you more points for clearing it though.
You hardly get any more points after stage 5.
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>>166764972
>>166768145
When I say the ship feels too fast I don't mean in response to my command but how fast it actually travels across the screen. It feels like no thought was put into the maximum movement speed of the ship in regards to the level and enemy design/layout. It FEELS like it moves faster than it should given the games current design.
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>input lag meme
CV4 WR speedrunner says it doesn't matter, git gud fags.
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>>166770601
Makes beating the TLB a bit anticlimactic tbqh
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>>166771414
>someone having a high position (of power, authority, achievement, etc) in something means that everything they say on the subject is always true
has the last year of shitty politics from all sides taught you nothing
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>people are memerunning shmups
>it's dadregga of course
https://twitter.com/shmups/status/825135473429401600
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Bahmpu~
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Today I have a really lovely Imperishable Night high-score run by Nameschonvergeben: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE8i-8h4Geg

Feel free to send some more stuff in guys!
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>>166776883
Those are cheating...
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>>166781773
More books, less meat~
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>>166782509
Forget that, meat is delicious.
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Is the hate for Ikaruga only because of its popularity/visibility or do people really think it is a shit game? I thought it was pretty goddamn fun honestly.
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>>166788378
Basically.
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>>166788378
I don't like it because of the polarity mechanic.
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You guys need to learn how to bump.
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>>166790501
I have trouble bumping on the shitter.
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>>166790501
I've been busy.
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>>166790501
This better?
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>>166752162
are you using type c? though it should work with other types too.
just stay in 1 during first phase, then in 2 during second, then you can stay in a middle for a bit(when those silly helicopter like things come out), then go in the left bottom corner to easily dodge shit, then go back to the center again, bomb when the boss gets full retard before dying.
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>>166771441
>>166770601
i've heard you get a massive bonus for no-miss, can anyone confirm?
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>deathsmiles
tv/yakamino
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>>166778515
Did 4 people really thumbs this down just because it was 2hu?
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>>166798370
>Battle Garegga
>Reinforcer ALL 8,130,370
>Gain ALL 10,903,470
Are those good scores?
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>>166790501
do you even play shmups
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>>166798526
for gain thats not really
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>>166800954
he can't batsugun sp 1-all, what a looser
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>>166798370
he uses lock shot a whole lot
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>>166771414
>CV4 WR speedrunner says it doesn't matter

He also didn't know what rsi was and said he thought his sore hands would just go by playing more. I've heard Paul say some of the most jaw dropping stupid things on his stream imaginable, what happens when you game all day desu.
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>>166806371
>what happens when you game all day
No wonder you suck at shmups
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>>166798526
not really, they are ok
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>>166806592
I'd rather have a developed intellect covering an array of subjects and build my character to be able to engage with people from all walks of life than merely be good at a silly game no one cares about and only societies biggest fuck ups bother with.
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shoot the normalfaggots up
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twitch tv/owarabi

Tatsujin Oh/Truxton II
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>>166778515
might be worth mentioning that after I completely fucked up stage 1 I only continued as practice but the rest of the run ended up being pretty solid and I ended up getting a pb because of that so it gets much better after stage 1 is over.
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>made it to stage 5 in ccwi
I"M LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW!!!!
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>>166812157
i know that feel
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>Ougi-poster is gone
>depression-anon is gone
>SPC only made a single post then disappeared
>Neptunia-poster is dead
>where is Neptunia-poster-poster is dead
>Rei and Asuka are gone
>anime is gone
This is our future.
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>>166814743
Pretty good.

Except for SPC
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>>166814743
>cee has gone

Good luck, you're on your own now /shmupg/.
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>>166814743
Nice meme
did you make that yourself?

btw, should I continue playing ccwi or not?
at this point to get better it's really just about copying superplays, which is kinda annoying desu
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>>166816385
you could beat it with other ships and beat unlimited.
>at this point to get better it's really just about copying superplays
or you could try no-missing with your current route, you don't need to copy superplays for that.
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>>166816385
is that all? you stopped after less than 10 clears?
you're not better than those 1cc collector guys
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>>166817035
The game was already pretty much pushed to its limits.
It seems senseless to me to get any better, because it would be just about copying.

>>166816564
>beat it with other ships
Yea that's probably what i still have to do.
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Also, I wanna play Zangeki warp when it comes out.
No superplays of this yet, afaik.
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>>166817135
do you never watch superplays?
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>>166638413
Hey...I quite like all the Darius Burst DLC. DLC mode is the best mode in the game now. I'm just waiting on Konami or Irem DLC.
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>>166818097
Degica, please
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>>166818020
Of course I watch them, but I never copied them 1:1.
I just take some inspirations from them.
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>>166818637
It won't be complete for me until we have Vic Viper or any of the R-Type Ships. Twinbee would be cool too in a Konami pack.
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>>166816564
>beat unlimited
Unlimited is gay. The constant bullet cancelling is just annyoing, and it's full of unavoidable patterns if you use your breaks at the wrong moment.

>try no-missing
If you actually would get any points for lives in stock, then sure, but that's not the case for this game. It's all just about doing well in the 5 stages. The endboss and tlbs are pretty irrelevant.
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>>166819509
>If you actually would get any points for lives in stock
but you do get them. you'd probably get a lot for no-missing last stage too. and not doing in general is good for scoring, since dying drops your break rate.
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>>166824538
>you do get them
No, you don't. You merely get 25 billion pro extend, which is pathetic.
>you'd probably get a lot for no-missing last stage
You get something like 50 billion, which also isn't that much.
I already no-missed all the stages with TypeZ. I just died at the endboss and tlb, which doesn't affect score that much anymore.
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>>166824980
>You merely get 25 billion pro extend, which is pathetic.
>You get something like 50 billion
holy fuck, what were they thinking?
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Play Boost and milk the TLB to score it.

>>166824980
Stage 5 does have a no-miss bonus like the rest (FANTASTIC!, etc) which is definitely a considerable gain on top of extend bonuses if you can get it.
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>>166825262
I have no idea. I guess it's just cave style, where clearing the game doesn't really matter for score.
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>>166825817
cave made anal requirements for loops
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>>166825812
>definitely a considerable gain
Not even superplayers care about this, dipshit.
It's redundant, except for world record scores.
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>>166826449
I was also thinking about games like Mushihimesama, where you can get a world record without even clearing the game.
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bump
ridge racer 2 on psp is pretty cool
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>>166830412
I want to play ALL Ridge Racers some day! I love arcade racers, especially when they have good music!
But there sure are a lot of them...
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>>166601791
Looks cool.
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>>166788378
It's not an either or. Being babbys first shmup for a lot of people is definitely part of it, but also because the polarization mechanics genuinely make it feel like a slower puzzle game.

For me, I think it has fantastic production values, but it's just not fun.
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>>166833273
>puzzle game
Every shmup is a puzzle game. Ikaruga just perfected it.
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>>166833470
Every game in general is a puzzle game, but they're generally better at hiding it.

Ikaruga embraces it instead. I think it's cool they did their own thing, and I like puzzle games, but for me it just isn't fun.
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>>166833470
So und etz fick ich dich richtig!!! Ich hab niemandem was getan und du beleidigst mich!!! HAS T HALT LEIDER SELBST NICHTS VORTUWEIßEN AUSSER NE FETTE WAMPE!!! HAB DICH IMMER REPEKTIERT OHNE KOMPROMISSE ODER!!! GIB MIR NUR EINEN GRUND!!! ABER DU PISST MIR OHNE GRUND ANS BEIN. Wie der kleine Bademeister mit gerade mal 2 kilo muskeln aber immer hulk spielen, war doch klar das es klattscht nur ne frage der Zeit. SELBER SCHULD!!! IHR WOLLT SHACKE HANDS DOCH JETZT MÜSST IHR MIT DEN KONSEQUUENZEN LEBEN. FICKT EUCH JETZT HABT IHR DAS TIER IN MIR ENTFACHT UND ICH BIN NICHT ALLEINE. SCHON MAL BULLRIDING GEMACHT? ICH HAB STIEREIER!!! Und etz pass mal uff 70kilo Rasendes Tesrosteron eiergesteuertes, 10% Korperfett und ein einziger muskel der sich nicht mehr von euch PRIVOZIERENDES PAKT STRESSEN LÄSST. FICK EUCH KOMMT DOCH ICH HAB SCHICHT VON 10 SO LANG WIE ICH WILL ALSO 21UHR KOMMT DOCH!!!!!
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>>166835564
Now either Kraut finally lost it or someone made an extreme butthurt post in German as a joke.
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>>166835564
>So and etz I fuck you right! I did not do anything to anyone and you insult me !!! HAS T HALTSATER SELFSTICHTS VORTUWEISSEN NEVER NE FETTE WAMPE !!! HAVE YOU ALWAYS REPRODUCED WITHOUT COMPROMISE OR !!! GIVE ME JUST ONE REASON!!! BUT YOU PISS ME WITHOUT REASONS. As the small bathing champion with just 2 kilo muscles but always hulk play, was clear that it klattscht only ne question of time. THEMSELVES TO BLAME!!! YOU SHOULD SHAPE HANDS NOW YOU MUST LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. FUCK NOW YOU HAVE TAKEN YOUR ANIMAL IN ME AND I AM NOT ALONE. BULLRIDING? I HAVE STIEREIER !!! And etz pass mal uff 70kilo Raging Tesrosteron egg-controlled, 10% body fat and a single muscle that no longer leaves you PRIVOZIERENDING PAKT STRESSEN. FICK YOU ALWAYS I HAVE LAYS OF 10 SO LONG AS I WANT THERE WILL COME DOUBLE !!!!!

Amazing.
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>>166835564
Hab gut gelacht!
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>>166816385
time to get better at greg kraut
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>>166839727
Dadreggas scoring system sucks.
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>>166839792
the only boring part is boss 3 milking
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>>166831390
RR Type 4 has the best music of them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz3dAk2elm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hn2piTTu-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDkqw9eo39Y
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>>166840876
It's not that it's boring, it's that it's so unintuitive.
The medaling is ok, but the rest is very archaic.

I still respect the game though, because it was revolutionary.
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>>166840892
Good taste! Played this game a lot back then.
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>>166840892
I've heard it's the best game in general. I'm a bit disappointed in retrospect because I never got to play them in their day. Not that it actually matters, because I'll still get to experience this masterpiece soon! So really, I'm happy!
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>>166842085
The full Ridge racer experience is only available in arcades.
I played Type 4 back when it was released, but only got to play Outrun games in arcades, which were cool too though.
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>>166840892
I dunno, I like this one from V.
I like to just have it play while driving through one of the city stages alone at night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwHkS-6EA9g
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>>166841805
>unintuitive
A lot more intuitive than stuff like Bakraid or Batrider 2bh
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>>166842309
That might be. The only Raizing game I really would like to play for score is Soukyugourentai, but this sadly has glitches on mame.
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>>166842214
Are the arcade games better? I was under the impression that the PS1 games are enhanced versions of those.
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>>166842214

Even when arcade where still a thing in Europe (15-20 years ago) I never saw any Ridge cabs. It was all about Daytona, Sega Rally and somethimes Scub Race.

But still RRs are very good consolized arcade games. RR and RRR on PS and the V on PS2 are adaptations from arcade versions, while Rage and Type 4 are full original games.
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>>166814743
>depression-anon is gone
There was more than one.

Source: I'm one of them. Just not posting too much about it anymore because like >>166711256 said, no one cares.
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>>166843740
>Just not posting too much about it anymore
aww that sucks man ;(((

>because like >>166711256 said, no one cares.
>Source: I'm one of them.
"pls give me attention", "can someone pls care?? ;(("
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>>166843740
nothing to do with shmups
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>>166845424
>;(((
You're a bigger fag than he is desu
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>>166845424
Gee anon, you sure are upset that I responded to a post mentioning me, even though that's the only post I've made mentioning my depression in this thread.
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>All these anons are gone...
>I'm still here just less of a fag
>GO AWAY FAGGOT

We're /stg/ tier now, time for the general to die.
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>>166846045
Neither are the posts about other arcade games
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What's with this stupid shit, talk about shmups.

Really wish Zangeki Warp hadn't been delayed, want to try it but not enough to buy it through DLSite.
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>>166846774
>We're /stg/ tier now
/shmupg/ has always been sub-/stg/ tier, kek.
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>>166842394
Try running it in SSF if your computer can handle it.
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>>166847684
Already tried. has horrible slow down for me.
The only version which works for me is the psx version, but this version sucks dicks.
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>>166814743
You forgot the Nuclear-Throne-is-a-shmup anon.
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>>166795408
>>166752162
>playing dadpachi in current year
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bampu
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radiant silverhair

tv/gunnerstg
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>>166848123
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>>166855242
BIG FAT
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>>166855874
only in the right places!
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>>166856145
I was talking about BIG FAT BOOKS of course
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>thread has to resort to /jp/-tier shitposting to keep it from 404'ing
wew lad
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>>166858196
I personally don't mind people shitposting to bump the thread, but I hate /jp/.
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>>166858479
Was this a bird also? Why do birds get ejected?
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>>166859973
birds are not allowed!
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/564040/
Zangeki Warp release date is now Jan 30.

>>166859973
>Why do birds get ejected?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inwzOooXRU
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Zangeki warp will be difficult. Meglilo was also brutal on harder difficulty.

Satazius was way easier imo.
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>>166824980
I remember competing on novice boost was pretty tight. No-miss run was important stuff. Should be the same on other moder, every penny is precious.
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>>166863920
>Should be the same on other moder
It isn't, except you want to be first place perhaps.
Not a single player from arcade original superplays no-missed the game. Type II player even lost all of his lives on the tlb.

It's really only necessary if you want a world record score.
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>>166863920
novice is easy peasy compared to the other modes, so of course no-miss is a must there
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>>166856145
that's casper body
except the boobs
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>>166864445
so this is power of unfocused grazing... wow
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>>166864445
thiccc
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shmups
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shoot target games
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>>166864445
Was Fairy Wars any good? I never delved into the "mid numbered" 2hus
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/shmupg/ I did it, she's mine
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>>166871723
Fine specimen. What will you do with her?
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>>166871723
>>166871917
Nothing lewd I hope
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>>166871723
OK
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>>166871917
Feed her, feed her hearts and the souls of lesser girls until she's strong enough to evolve, and then repeat until she maxes. And then grind her affinity until that maxes too, so that she can give me those sweet free gems and then I probably never touch her again because I already have several Caspers for all of my Darkness-elemental needs.

>>166873836
I hope too. She seems pretty heavy into femdom.

>>166873905
Thanks Ness.
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>>166867510
shoot them downs
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>>166874627
Is she from Nekopara?
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>>166876051
Deathsmiles
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>>166876051
Nope, it's Tiara from Deathsmiles. Dressed up as a catgirl-maid because mobage.
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>>166876872
isnt she like 10
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>>166877367
14, same age as Follett.
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>>166877689
meh
too old
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Why do doujin seem more willing to adopt3D backgrounds than the professional companies?
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>>166878386
Easier to produce I guess. Big companies might already have a bunch of cash invested in 2D focused artists, making them hesitant to go 3D
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wow for once stg weekly is actually covering something interesting https://twitter.com/STGWeekly/status/825533807134703616
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>>166880797
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>>166886924
too old
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>>166888569
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poorly disguised post meant only to bump the thread
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Kamui Greg strm

twitch tv/t3_kamui
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>>166885591
>wow for once stg weekly is actually covering something interesting https://twitter.com/STGWeekly/status/825533807134703616


No cream, no stream.
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>>166895705
>No cream, no stream.
So, STGNeverAgain?
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>>166895984
If she doesn't host again then for me that's a no.
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>>166896187
>she
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>>166896294
>>she
ceemen is a champion of equality.
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>>166895705
>MSX STGs
this interesting
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>>166896187
OK, then.
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>>166896878
A few days earlier (before she closed her discord) she was talking about her shmup goals for 2017, I don't understand why she stopped playing so suddenly.

She probably just wants attention/people talk about her, I'm sure she's gonna be back p soon
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>>166897101
you give him attention right now
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>>166897101
Who knows. She's rather fickle, considering that she suddenly deleted her own Discord server without any announcements. Probably too autistic to do it or Gus triggering her actually happened.

>She probably just wants attention/people talk about her
Yeah, she admitted it once on the server, but people talking shit about her supposedly makes her depressed. On top of that, she probably lurks /shmupg/ occasionally and brings herself up on purpose.
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please come back cream!
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>>166898662
no, fuck off
she is obviously just as dumb as ChavLP and thinks playing shmups is degenerate
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>>166896878
She doesn't need to play to host though and she's right it is positive, i hope she goes on to use her ability to dedicate and progress in more fulfilling creative aspects of life like being a pianist for example.

>>166897101
>A few days earlier (before she closed her discord) she was talking about her shmup goals for 2017, I don't understand why she stopped playing so suddenly.

Burn out doesn't set a date it just kind of happens and with it comes a perspective change.

>>166897392

I think after stgweekly episodes she would lurk here and the guaranteed slew of negative comments was probably getting to her and i can understand that as women are more emotionally responsive to language and seeking community acceptance etc where as i'm completely bulletproof when it comes to insults, britbong upbringing i guess. Wehn i said she had an animatronic love doll voice though that was a compliment, cream asmr
when?

>>166897392
>considering that she suddenly deleted her own Discord server without any announcements.

This kinda sucked and i'd like to see it come back, it was a much better corner than the main shump sausage fest section and i like to observe Gus spew his total degenerate bullshit whilst treating his philosophical preferences as literal objective guides/validation when it's in direct contradiction to the intention of the actual material.

>>166898793
>she is obviously just as dumb as ChavLP and thinks playing shmups is degenerate

>realizes this shit is consuming to much time to the point of interfering with life in a negative way for no personal gain
>dumb

This really is all you have isn't it krauty? Doctor Cee prescribes less Goebbels and more growballs.
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show boobs
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>>166901536
anyone in particular?
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>>166901389
>She doesn't need to play to host
I think she stopped being an STGWeekly host according to her Twitch channel and pic related supports my claim.
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>>166902196
Yes and? It's not contractual i'm sure she could do it again at any point im just stating in regards to the first pic that quitting playing wouldn't disqualify you from speaking on the subject.
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twitch tv/aquas

Espgaluda II
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>>166901389
>realizes this shit is consuming to much time to the point of interfering with life in a negative way for no personal gain
But that's not how it has to be...
Games are a pastime but they can very much be a serious hobby. If she found something more fulfilling than shmups then that's good for her. But a hobby is never supposed to affect one's life in a negative way. That comes down to other life choices or perhaps rather neglecting other parts of life.

Of course, this is coming from someone who will probably never be any sort of WR holder for any shmup, but eh... ;_;
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>>166901389
>this shit is consuming to much time
Only if you have low self-controll. Look at players like Clover-Tac... that guy played all day in the arcades, and still has a successfull carrier and everything. It just depends on what you want to do with your time.

If you are addicted or whatever, and play more than you actually want to, then that's your own fault.
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>>166903958
Be honest what other things have you done apart from video games? Everybody has their point of view based on the experiences they have had and honestly based on all the stuff i've done in life thus far i can say quite confidently that video games are lowest shit tier and always end up with legions of depressed fucks who can't break the cycle of hedonism with no actual sense of fulfillment or achievement. Games are fun but ultimately an empty pursuit.

>>166904139
>Look at players like Clover-Tac... that guy played all day in the arcades, and still has a successfull carrier and everything.

Well i mean the day long arcade days came before the career and marriage obv and you're right it's all about priorities and how you want to spend your time, silly to continue if you're genuinely burnt out though and i do believe this hobby is the emptiest of all of them when it comes to a genuine feeling of fulfillment and personal satisfaction from my personal experience for me, not stating it as a universal law or anything although spending time in these communities it is quite clear that a large percentage fit a stereotype that is far from self confident and productive.

>>166904139
>If you are addicted or whatever
Well i mean no objective neurological evidence exists for addiction, it's merely a philosophical standpoint which removes personal responsibility from an individual whom simply lacks will power so yes I agree with you.
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>>166904356
>i do believe this hobby is the emptiest of all of them when it comes to a genuine feeling of fulfillment
I disagree that it lacks fullfillment. It just another senseless time-killer like everything else. When I studied art all day I basically also was just killing-time and drew lines on paper.

Everything can be fullfilling, it just depends on how much you love what you do, and how good you are at it. Shmups are just very difficult to become really good at and it takes a lot of work to become really good at a game.
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>>166905143
>Shmups are just very difficult to become really good at

This is only true if shmups are all you've done, compared to many other things they're a joke desu, you just grind persistently utilizing a very small part of your body. I remember sikraiken posting on farm and he's an amazing player that if you think this is hard go try training to be a competitive athlete or gymnast, it took pazzy like 1000 hrs or so to get a high echelon score in ketsui it took me 3-5 hrs a day of physical pain and determination for the last 4 of 10 total years of riding bmx to put my final original idea on film, i moved to spain for 6 months every winter for a couple years just to train more and harder. There is a clear reason why 99% of these communities are weak pussified beta males who do nothing else but sit with a hunchback for countless hrs ion front of some game and then try to convince themselves what they are doing is some kind of digital ninja tier shit. Games are there for a convenient safe achievement in the warmth of your basement and thats fine but if you're convincing yourself it matches up to anything else you are wrong and either ignorant or lying to yourself for the sake of your ego.
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>>166905561
>it took pazzy like 1000 hrs or so to get a high echelon score in ketsui
To be a good shmupper you also have to be good in more than just one game.
Really good shmuppers are excellent in a shitton of games, which hard as fuck to achievement.
Pazzy is an excellent Ketsui and Daioujou player, but I wouldn't call him a good shmupper.
Gus is an excellent Mushihimesama player, but also not a good shmupper.

That's at least the way I see it. When you paint a single great picture, but that's all you have, then you are also not a good artist. Being a good artist takes a shitton of more work.
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>>166905561
>Games are there for a convenient safe achievement in the warmth of your basement
This is so fucking superficial, it's pathetic.
Playing competetive video games is nothing else than playing sports. It's like playing chess.

You sound like some dumb fat cunt who never played a game in her life and thinks he has an idea what she is talking about. No wonder your scores are so fucking mediocre, although you play shmups since a fucking decade already.
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>>166905561

i have a phd in math in real life
u r shit @ life m8 pls kill urself
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>>166904356
>Be honest what other things have you done apart from video games?
Well, I haven't done fuck-all either, really.

The stuff about people ending up as depressed fucks is true, but it's not just true for gamers. It's just the logical result of a generation that experienced awful parenting and was raised in times of ever-escalating economic and geopolitical angst. It's only natural that a lot of them turn into hermits that play videogames and/or surf the internet all day and become isolated and unhappy.

I was like that for a while too. But videogames never served as a way to escape from it as I didn't enjoy them as much anymore. Surfing the net and listening to music did.
But now I do both these same things as before but without the depression!

I appreciate videogames as not just a pastime, but as a hobby and an art-form. There's plenty of fulfillment to get out of them, I think. For me it's not just playing them, it's gitting gud (maybe better than everyone else), listening to the great music, experiencing the story, etc.
I'm not creating anything by playing them, I'm not producing anything of value to anyone (except for myself, if you count memories and expanding of one's horizon and imagination), but life's not about that anyway. Maybe it's escapism, but I enjoy experiencing art, expanding my horizons, having a vivid imagination and just playing videogames.

I do have other passions too though so maybe that helps. Nothing tangible though, just music and art.
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tfw cream is lurking here
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>>166905782
so 1cc collector is good shmupper then?
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>>166904356
>based on all the stuff i've done
>stuff
be specific
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>>166908890
No, the ones who collect 1ccs while also scoring well are the good shmuppers.
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>>166904356
>Well i mean no objective neurological evidence exists for addiction
oh it's one of cee's alt right "science doesn't exist and is made up dark magic" posts
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>>166905782
With a mindset like this, there's no good shmup players in the world except a handful of japs.
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>>166911809
Naw, there are many Japs who score really good in many games. They just also often play other arcade games, not just shmups.

In the west, yea, there are not many good players, but some are not bad either.
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>>166905782

This is some crabnigga shit if ever I've seen any.
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>>166912786
So you think spending merely thousand hours on a game makes you a good shmup player or what?

That's not how this works, buddy. To me, good players are players like 428saaan for example. He doesn't play shmups exclusively, but he has very good scores in many games. Grid Seeker, Radiant Silvergun, Darius, etc etc. Those are good shmuppers. Gus and Pazzy are still one trick-ponies. They do have potential though.
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>>166905782
Now this is shitposting.
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32 hours and I'm still bad
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Sunday bump
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>>166912280
>In the west, yea, there are not many good players, but some are not bad either.

Name them plz.

>>166913068
t. one trick memer who has no trick at all
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>>166914121
Try 320 hours.
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Bahmpu~
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>>166918173
>Name them plz.
Saucykobold, ben shinobi, jaimers, idk
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I just 1cc'd galaga on saturn
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Returned to Blazing Lazers(hard difficulty), hardly reached last stage.
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>>166923583
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dear diary

today i got new pb on ketsui 126mil
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>>166907513
>attending liberal indoctrination camp
you already failed at life, m8
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Stick is in fact the only way to get your movement to FLOW.
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No Cream, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ .
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>>166908563
>tfw cream is lurking here
Good i'd like to talk to her.

>>166910859
Neurology has nothing to do with politics and what i said is a fact, you can not present to me an objective neurologically based piece of evidence which demonstrates the existence of addiction in the body Science has not yet achieved this. We speak of addiction to explain an intense sense of desire however when you sense desire it becomes a choice whether or not to act on it, those who do have no will power those who don't have high willpower and make decisions on a more logical basis. Addiction is commonly used as both an excuse to pardon those of being weak willed and secondly by morally starved pharma greed pigs who need to to believe you are a victim to sell you more products. Keep being a mindless fuck though and lacking critical thought or investigation to lazily settle for appeals to authority, assumption and excuse. I'l try to help you, think of the line between dedication and addiction and tell me the difference? The difference is merely perspective and when you realize this you realize it is a philosophical standpoint that should be eradicated in favor of promoted personal responsibility.
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>>166914121
PAZZY BTFOOOOOOOOO, oh my bad it's a digit to short.
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>>166933148
You can't go full PH if you're still playing video games

They're immoral AF and destroy the imagination

>>166933354
Yeah but he's played 30x more than me so multiply my score by 30 and I win
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>>166910859
I have nothing to do with the alt right either you thick cunt, politically i have no allegiance and sway depending on the subject. Some things i'm a classic liberal, some right leaning and some things something of a centrist. Being a mindless tribal political follower is always a setup for retardation and failure on both sides but alas we are a tribal specie so it is what it is.
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>>166933443
I knew you'd get the reference max my old chum, ph would love me as someone who doesn't drink, smoke or do narcotics (no not straight edge punker before some label toting cunt gets his verbal cock out). He'd worded a view of mine better than i could so it's getting straight plagiarized.

>>166933443
>Yeah but he's played 30x more
Yeah he's a queermo dutchie who thinks the anons will watch him shower aswell.
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twitch tv/stgweekly

MSX shmups in here.
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>>166910819
This is the way to go 2bh, collecting 1cc's is a good way to tell what games do you actually like to score, then you can focus on a select number of games to score at.
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>>166934018
>MSX shmups in here.
Thanks for the reminder

>>166933148
>what i said is a fact
lol no
I'm sure you'll blame this on the liberal elite or some other such nonsense since you're a straight up anti-science retard, but here is one example of tons: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1762111/
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>>166933443

>implying I don't play shmups and vidya in general in between bouts of doing groundbreaking original research

stay pleb
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>>166935036
Cataloging the best cuckold porn on Xvideos isn't what I'd call "groundbreaking research" but ok
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>>166934541
>I'm sure you'll blame this on the liberal elite or some other such nonsense since you're a straight up anti-science retard
Neither of these are true claims but it's funny to see to endlessly wheel out labels to attach, ironically it is only leftists who argue in this fashion. Will you be calling me a racist,xenophobic,bigot mansplainer at any point? Will you at least admit that i'm the best in house contrarian and do more for creating discussion than anyone else?

Your article backs up my point though and does not offer any recognition of the point between desire and choice of action. It explains how on a chemical level the brain suffers withdrawal following dependency on morphine but a test which they conducted on a rat.... so tell me mr science are you presenting to me the idea that rats have the same emotional spectrum as humans? do you think rats can achieve the self awareness and override with logical conclusion based choice? Maybe i didn't clarify however but we weren't actually talking about chemical addiction but more behavioral based addiction not that it changes anything. Desire in the brain does not control the actions of your hands and where you stick that needle, you/the druggie does something that is not helped by our societal attitude of allowing ppl to claim victim status, starving them of any personal responsibly and the such. Personally i'm all for creating areas like fly catchers for addicts since you are forcing this to be about the most extreme form of it to make your weak argument work and leaving them be, those who opt for rotting are free to do so and those who opt for willpower and make moves to improve have my blessings.
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>>166933148
What kind of evidence do you want exactly? Seems like you want evidence that disproves free will, not evidence that proves addiction. It does not completely override any free will a person has, it just makes it far more difficult to make a beneficial choice. And yes it's a matter of perspective but it's also a matter of severity since it's a normal type of behaviour until it becomes too extreme and harmful
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>>166935130

I publish papers in pure math and theoretical physics as a side pursuit when I'm not playing vidya.

You really just need to step your game up, buddy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDtIZZiySgA

Chandler Bing getting BTFO ITT
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>>166910859
>that guy who unironically believes the alt-right actually exists and wasn't just a media fabricated boogeyman
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>>166935587
>What kind of evidence do you want exactly?
Objective and clear evidence that without question removes responsibility of any "addict" and explains how the desire in his brain completely hijacks the rest of his brains decision making abilities which force his hands to stick that shit in his arm... unfortunately it doesn't exist because humans are deeply psychological creatures with infinite variables.

>>166935691
Jesus what a stereotypical cuck, i feel like i already know what you look like.... lefty cuckold glasses, noodle arms, weak, short curly hair and a chequered shirt with a terrible lacking of common sense thinking.

>>166935835
I love this interview, chandler tries to claim full victim and extend to the idea that his desire for a drink forces his body to physically acquire one lmao, weak willed faggot cunt.
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>>166935513
>Maybe i didn't clarify however but we weren't actually talking about chemical addiction but more behavioral based addiction not that it changes anything.
You didn't clarify, and it does make a difference. There is a reason why physical dependence is separated from psychological dependence. Hint: It's because they're two different things.
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>>166936026

> i feel like i already know what you look like.... lefty cuckold glasses, noodle arms, weak, short curly hair and a chequered shirt with a terrible lacking of common sense thinking.


I'm a big burly dude with a long glorious mane and enough hair on my chest to weave a blanket.

Sounds like someone is projecting :^)
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>>166936062
Well maybe you should pay more attention then as the topic matter when this started was video game addiction not chemical dependency, you instantly assumed and jumped to present the most extreme example in a desperate bid to get a boner from being right about something, a sad sight to see from an "academic".
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>>166935982
>unironically posting this at the same time cee is arguing against science and referring to education as a liberal indoctrination camp
wew lad

>science is evil! m-muh liberals, everyone should be educated in a proper alt right school like my madrasa
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While this topic is SUPER interesting, it also sucks and has nothing to do with the thread.

DOJ is still kicking my ass, but I've reworked my routes to be safer. Much less score though, so I'm more than likely going to go right back.
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>>166936262
>Well maybe you should
You should learn not to make vague broad statements likely to mislead individuals lacking knowledge on the subject matter. Fat chance.
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>check out /shmupg/
>start wondering if I clicked /pol/ on accident
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>>166936516
You can thank Cee for that.
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>>166936240
It was a humourous cheap shot in the flavor of your equally lazy stereotype based insults. My banter is a welcome sign, you fat stallion lookin cunt.

>>166936346
You can't tell whom is me apparently as i'm not arguing against science at all, the liberal indoctrination comment wasnt me either.

>>166936346
>>science is evil! m-muh liberals, everyone should be educated in a proper alt right school like my madrasa
No ones saying any of this either, so anyway.... got an argument?

>>166936492
Nice deflection but a failure to gauge the clear topic at hand and instantly retaliate based on an assumptive conclusion is simply intellectually lazy and a short coming. I admire your bravado though.

>>166936516
>>start wondering if I clicked /pol/ on accident
We are discussing medical science not politics.

>>166936417
The subject is directly related to aspects of the shmuppers psyche. I used cream quitting etc earlier to force a discussion and bring this place back to life for a bit. You can go back to mindless waifu posts shortly.
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>>166936026
Can addiction not be real without removing responsibility of the addicts? I mean, I imagine addicts have to pay out the arse to cover the costs of rehabilitation. It's not like they're being pardoned for being retards that don't know when to stop. Well, not fully anyway.

This is just assumption, I'm not sure how it actually works out IRL.
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>>166936797
>bring this place back to life for a bit
Giving this general another cancer isn't "bringing it to life".
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Welcome to my funhouse fellow shump brethren.
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More like "shmupping" this thread with non-stg action!
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>Nigel "Lets swap Poles for Pakis" Farage
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>>166936887
People who don't enjoy ceeposting must be living in a world of restrictions.
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>>166936863
>I imagine addicts have to pay out the arse to cover the costs of rehabilitation.
Don't we have NHS programs that cover them? we prescribe methadone. The issue like i explained is "addiction" without getting into semantics only covers the desire part of the equation, some people reform others don't, whats the difference between them? willpower and perspective. You can't help someone who is both made and personally believes himself a victim because the victim mentality looks to solutions from others and sacrifices personal responsibility. This goes for anything btw, look at every scenario where people have been told they are victims and the result is always the same ie failure.
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>>166936887
>stimulating discussion
>cancer


You are everything wrong with your generation.
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>>166937531
Fine, keep discussing things that aren't shmups in the shmups general, you're too /pol/ to see that your shit is only worsening a shit general.
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>>166937712
>Fine, keep discussing things that aren't shmups in the shmups general
Discussing psychology directly in relation to shmup players is absolutely shmup related and again psychology/medical science is not politics. I know you feel a little intimidated by the nature of discussions like this but maybe try to be humble and attentive, you might learn something or be prompted to think of something yourself.
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>>166937872
>Discussing psychology... is absolutely shmup related
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>>166937931
Yes as it relates to the players and the reasons they play/quit etcetc, which part are you struggling with here?
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>You can't help someone who is both made and personally believes himself a victim because the victim mentality looks to solutions from others and sacrifices personal responsibility
This will definitely help me get good scores, thanks for the great, shmup-centered discussion guys.
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>>166938038
Everything he'd cut out I'd imagine. Dude has to edit inline context out of your posts just to respond to them, what do you think goes through his mind?
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>>166938171
What editing? Qualifiers are unimportant, the core of the sentence is that discussing psychology is shmup related, and that's false.
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>>166937410
I'm not even sure how it works out where I live to be honest, let alone the UK.

I've wondered abotu this to though. It really seems like it is a thing of willpower, like quitting smoking or something. Can't imagine how hard it could be, although I'm not in the position to talk as I stay far away from all of that sort of shit. I've wondered how it'd work with shit that is extremely addictive like meth. I think I have pretty strong willpower, even when I'm drunk as fuck, but the human mind is pretty fragile so if you take some shit that really fucks you up, maybe even willpower won't cut it anymore.
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>>166938038
>>166938171
cool samefag
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>>166938131
>This will definitely help me get good scores
It will because as you approach your game and things get tough you will be faced with the desire to quit forced by a sense that you are not good enough. You will see yourself as either a victim of shitty level talent or you will grow personally responsible for yourself and grow determined to do what it takes to achieve your goal.

>>166938260
>the core of the sentence is that discussing psychology is shmup related, and that's false.
NOT WHEN THE PSYCHOLOGY IS PRECISELY THAT OF THE SHMUPPERS AND RELATION TO THE HOBBY THEY DO RETARDPANTS.

>>166938038
>>166938171
>>166938382
NOPE.

>>166938309
>but the human mind is pretty fragile so if you take some shit that really fucks you up, maybe even willpower won't cut it anymore.
This is only true if you believe it I mean look at the things this species has survived? Humans are potential machines with an incredible ability to either beat the greatest adversity or reach the lowest levels of pathetic. The point is having a framework in place that convinces you you're a victim before you even start blocks the chances of those with potential to champion the issue and instead makes them dependent on a pharma system pumping them fixes because business practices often override legitimate care in this somewhat sad world.
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>>166938382
>cool samefag
cee does this notoriously
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>>166938787
And yet i just proved i didn't. Maybe it's max, he's my nigga he ride fo me.
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>>166938908
It wasn't me

...could it be him?
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>>166939168
>banner

More liberal bigotry from the bourgeois bohemian metropolitan trendies.
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>>166938908
>tfw wanted to back you up earlier but was too lazy to reach for my keyboard

This is what it means to be an American.
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>>166936417
Playing for 1cc or score?

>>166936887
This, derailing the entire thread to insert /pol/ propaganda isn't revitalizing a dead thread. It's turning a dead thread into a shitty dead thread.

>>166938706
>victim
This is the core fantasy of many right ideologies, the idea that victims don't exist and everyone has control over everything that happens to them. Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps! What? It's not working? You're not pulling hard enough. Victim of a crime? It's your fault that you weren't careful enough. It's why he is so triggered by addiction and the idea that someone could lose their free will. It's patently false of course, as the universe is obviously deterministic to anyone that has spent more than a few minutes thinking about it.
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Do you think swallowing the bogpill can help you with STG?

Can I get a quick rundown
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>>166938908
>>166939168
I'm the guy who posts in favour of Cee sometimes, because I think Cee is fun as hell and has helped me before, but I don't have a particular identity on /shmupg/.
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>>166938908
>And yet i just proved i didn't
Stellar use of the "no I didn't" defense, professor. Should I ever find myself in court I'm 100% certain I'll get acquitted of all charges with that riposte.
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>>166939478
>This is what it means to be an American.

Don't fret my transatlantic cousin the mere thought is enough.

>>166939605
>This is the core fantasy of many right ideologies
You're again trying to force this into a political box that simply is not being discussed here, this is the problem with existing in a 2 tier political system like america (i assume you are) which tribally dumbs everything down to a football style engagement "FUCK DA BLOO SHURTZ DEY SUK! NO FUCK DA RED SHIRT DEY FINK OF COCK" it's the same nonsense just with left vs right. Victim of a crime isn't even in the same stratosphere of the type of victim we are talking about here ie that which relates to the choices of the individual not that of the reaction to ill fated circumstance.

>>166939936
>I'm the guy who posts in favour of Cee sometimes, because I think Cee is fun as hell and has helped me before
Well thank you sir/madam and i'm glad to be of service, if you ever want to talk more feel free to add me on steam if you use the platform.
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>>166940167
I just got a client off death row withthat defense, shit was so cash.
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>>166940167
You can't the post above it where i purposely quote all the posts in question so those that are me have a "you" next to them? it clearly demonstrates the post i question was not me. Should you ever find yourself in court i'd focus on pulling your thumb out of your arse whilst you're eye fucking the judge.
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>>166939605
>Playing for 1cc or score?
Just going for a 1-all. I really should be doing safer strats, but they're boring to me. I have much more fun trying to get as many points as possible while going for the clear.
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>>166940194
>this is the problem with existing in a 2 tier political system like america
>implying there is only 1 right ideology immediately after quoting a post that says many ideologies.
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>>166940454
Yes which is summarized by right and left, he claims that all roads lead to munich ie that all those ideologies on the right essentially have the same destination, this cancels out the relevance of quantity.
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>tfw ywn be as hot as trap
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>>166940194
Sure, thank you for the invitation. I use Steam pretty sparsely though, but if I get around to playing CCWI I'll reach out.
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>>166941492
http://steamcommunity.com/id/thunderqueef

>>166941443
>as hot as trap
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Shmups are fucking casual shit. In Planetside 2 I'm literally getting wrecked by the second.
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>>166935691
post links to your papers on arxiv or gtfo
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>>166942478
isn't that because the only people playing Planetside 2 have been playing it nonstop for fuck knows how many years at this point?
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>>166942478
>Comparing single player games where the beginning is deliberately designed to be easy to draw in newcomers to being a newbie in a multiplayer game where the difficulty curve depends entirely on the people you're playing against
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>>166944024
Pretty much yes. On prime time hours the game is pure hell.
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>>166946697
2deep5me
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>>166946697
>gif
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>>166946697
I think bullet hell patterns can be pretty too, but that's a bit much.
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>>166946697
I'd pay for the one on the right.
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;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxpcT0oYZVU
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>>166942661

>implying i'd powerword myself to a bunch of autistic neets on a peruvian ventriloquism forum

Not that I don't trust any of you cool dudes, it's just I'd rather not take the chance.

Even the titles of my papers would sadly give myself away because all of them focus on a notion that originated with me.
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>>166949901
Actually prefer the live version desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj5QPE2qwWI
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>I'm not gonna post proof but trust me I'm awesome and great and better than you.
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>>166951973
It's pretty different. But I love it!
Remi is such a 10/10 singer, befitting of a 10/10 band as ZUNTATA and a 10/10 series as Darius!
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>>166952038
By giving him more attention you're making it worse.
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Would you rather
>be knowledgeable of and have clears in several shooting games
or
>be good (but not JP level) at only a single shmup
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>>166960598
why not both?
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>>166960598
>>166960692
I concur. Most of the time you do not need to dive deep into a game to just get a clear and if you get to the point where you are diving deep enough to justify calling yourself "knowledgeable" about them you are likely to find at least one if not more that you will be GOOD at just from that knowledge alone. I don't think you can really separate the two like that.
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>>166960598
Hey I guess I'm kind of like the second option already, so... I guess that one. Although, I don't believe that I can't improve further...
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>>166961427
Just knowing some things about a shmup doesn't mean you can execute it though.
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>>166963049
This. Knowing what you have to do is easy, but training your muscle memory to execute it is difficult.
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>>166963049
>>166963321

Absolutely true but the knowledge wholly useless to accumulate if you never put it into practice in the first place. In which case "being knowledgeable" about many shmups is about the same as "owning" many shmups. It doesn't matter for the clear in most cases (note:most) so adding it as a trait seems unnecessary unless we are saying that knowledge is being used in some capacity during the play.

I wouldn't pontificate on mushihime scoring any more than I would talk about repairing a car. Without the applied practice of that knowledge me talking about it pompous at best. In that case adding "be knowledgeable of" seems out of place if we are saying said knowledge is superficial only. When I read "be knowledgeable" the only worthwhile application of that 'benefit' I could see was if you actually were at least trying to use it, which is why I said what I did before.
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>>166963623
You already have to be knowledgable of most of the game to 1cc it. You just don't have to delve deeper into the scoring system, and build your routes around it. But you will most likely already know how the scoring works. It's just that you don't have the knowledge of the good scoring routes.
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>>166964268
I will concede the point. Have a 2hu
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>>166964406
cute bunbuns
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>>166966283
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how will the muslim ban affect shmups??
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>>166967262
>calling it a muslim ban
>not talking about shmups
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>>166967262
>gaymers releases a new video
>some poohoo mod
>TLB is an evac doom parody
>everyone in the comments ignores it and focuses on some random pattern jacked from a poohoo clone
we need a poohoo ban instead
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>>166968156
>TLB is an evac doom parody
I actually noticed this. Especially the music reminded very much of the Ketsui TLB.
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>>166961885
>I guess I'm kind of like the second option already
do you even have any respectable scores
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>>166969262
>respectable
what did he mean by this?
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>>166960598
scores that are higher than mine are autistic one trick pony shit, score that are lower than mine are casual normalfaggot shit.
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Why does anyone care if someone else plays for score or survival?
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>>166972860
autism
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>>166968156
let's ban all poojin kusoge to cover all bases
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv289128931

desusmiles
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deathsquadders
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>when you are sleepy as fuck but gotta keep practicing that final stage
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Watching somebody play Battle Garegga now.

What makes this game so good, /shmupg/?

Any chance of a Steam port in the future?
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I see you guys can dodge bullets BUT can you dodge anxiety and crippling depression?
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>>166967262
>how will the muslim ban affect shmups??

Higher scores for quebec superprayers.
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>bananafaggot will not be allowed to enter the US in the next 8 years
#MAGA
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>>166969262
I fit the criteria for the second option on that guy's list. My Deathsmiles PB with Casper is 277m. As far as I can find, there's only one other non-Japanese player with a score slightly higher than that (298m), so I would assume it can be considered "good but not JP-level".
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>>166972860
because knowing people with the same interest is nice.
And no, 1cc collecting and scoring is not really the same thing even if both is done in shmups
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>>166923583
show boobs
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>>166984758
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>>166984597
>because knowing people with the same interest is nice.
never understood this desu,interesting ppl are nice but having the same interest means little imo.
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>>166985287
>have shared interest
>have topic you can discuss (in depth)
it's not hard to understand, is it?
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>>166985339
Theres nothing to discuss that you don't alreasdy know if both are that well versed so yes it is, i'd rather talk to someone with other interests than my own to learn new things. You're a child looking for familiarity and belonging though so yeah fair enough.
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>>166985442
>being interested in something means you know everything about it
>ad hominems
fuck off
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>>166985603
>>ad hominems

>fuck off
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>>166985442
>Theres nothing to discuss that you don't alreasdy know if both are that well versed
this desu
shmups are simple games and only 30 minutes long, what do you plan on talking about??
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>>166985668
try to find out what an ad hominem is before embarrassing yourself further
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>>166985893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43L4dQETxxA

>muh same interest
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Stop arguing over semantics, yo. Some people like playing for score, some for survival, and people wanna chat shit about it.

Go play a fucking shmup and be homies.
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>>166986018
>Go play a fucking shmup and be homies.
>direct orders

Stalin detected.
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>>166986098
Shut up famalam. What are you playing and what are you hoping to accomplish today?
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>>166985762
to begin with the argument wasn't that both players should be playing the same game, just that having a similar mindset helps.
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>>166986175
but 99% of the people who play shmups are fags that i don't want to talk to in the first place
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>>166986226
>but 99% of the people who play shmups are fags that i don't want to talk to in the first place

THIS SO HARD DOE.
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what the fuck this fucking stage 4, fucking hate it
is fucking impossible to kill bosses without bombs. fuck this
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>>166986495
>this fucking stage 4
That's stage 5.
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>>166986883
i hate stage 4 much
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>>166986226
>>166986281
why are you still here then? especially britbong, you don't even play shmups anymore. got a little attached to us, wee lad?
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>>166986495
they like, give you bombs right before this boss, just keep them until last phase. also watch some replay or something, it's not a hard boss, you can safely laser him in a safespot for a while.
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>>166988546
>why are you still here then?
Because i can.

>>166988546
>wee lad?
Scotcuck from glasgay detected.
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I'm back, bitches.
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>>166989372
who are you?
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>>166988546
i'm here for anonymous bants and shitposting
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>>166990819

This desu, when i don the mask the bantz find their own way. Pic related it's me prepping for shmupg.
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>>166990427
I'm just a fairy.
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If the genre is called Shoot Em Ups whit isnt its shortened as Shmeps instead?
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>>166991586
is this code for being a tranny or gay?
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>>166991852
because the letters don't appear in that order
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>>166991852
It's a phonetic abbreviation. The most prominent sounds are taken first, and then it ends in the most prominent vowel, which is the last one, so it's sh-m-up.
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>>166992627
>>166992039
Dont you guys think shmeps souns cooler though? Pls make the next one shmep general!
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>>166992687
Reminds me of Schweppes.
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Why is there not a hentai 2hu game yet?
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I mean there are so many 2hu games, and the girls get so often sexualized, wouldn't it make sense to give the fans what they really want?
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>>166992940
>>166993008
Actually 2hu doesn't have that much porn. Just lot of fanworks.
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>open stream
>streamer is playing poojin kusoge
>close stream
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>zangeki warp delayed again
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>>166993896
>open /shmupg/
>Cee memes are in free circulation
>close /shmupg/
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>>166991081
>The mask
>It's bag from El corte Inglés
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>>166994428
It was until i made it the mask, i was living in malaga at the time.

>>166994272
Come on now I made this place far more entertaining than stgweekly last night, don't deny it!.
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>>166994272
>Cee bantz are in free circulation
Fixed that for you.
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https://www.twitch tv/katase0448
DOJ BL

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv289181175
Mushi

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv289180702
Desumiles

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv289179051
Donpachi
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Any shmup to recommend for someone who was never really good at (the only one I was able to finish was a dreamcast port on ps2 where you could play a cute loli-witch who wanted to get her adult body back).
I also played R-type on my master system and death smile but I must be the worst player when it comes to side scrolling :/

Also, which controller do you use?
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>>166997529
>Any shmup to recommend for someone who was never really good at
crimzon clover world ignition, jump straight into arcade original mode
>Also, which controller do you use?
xbox 360 controller, fantastic d-pad!
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>>166997969
Why is it that a lot of controller users seem to hate the thought of having to use the analog stick for movement? Can't it be just a precise as the d-pad if you flick it quickly?
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>>166998073
I always play with analogue stick. It's much better than d-pad for shmups.
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>>166997529
Satazius is very good for new players. It has many different difficulties, and even the hardest difficulty is very doable with some practice.
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>>166997969
>>166998993
Thanks I'll try them.
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>>166998993
Not him, but I guess I'll give it a shot too if it's easy. Been some time since I've played a hori too.
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>>166981108
No.
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>>166998401
don't fall for this meme, banana killed a man for spreading it
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>>166999685
It's not a meme. Games like Ikaruga even have more speed variations when playing with analog
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>>166997529
>>166999321
Me again

Just wanted to suggest you Princess Remedy in a World of Hurt
I play it not so long ago but I totally forgot about it, a good game especially for those who like really old gameplay. It took me and my poor skill 90min to beat it.
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>>166997529
don't listen to the ccwi guy, grab dbcs while it's still on sale at its historical low (ends in a few hours) https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dariusburst-chronicle-saviours
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never go full ccwi
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We the elite of gaymers! Shmuppers are considered very hardcore.
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>>167003105
By who? oh other gamers who are even further down the degeneracy hierarchy than we are.
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Bahmpu~
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lewd patchy bump
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Bump, desu~
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ALMOST TIME FOR NEW THREAD DESU
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Perfect Cherry Popping
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Playing CCWI in here.

twitch tv/infirex
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>>167014774
>Playing CCWI in here.

Do it for the steam cheevos.
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Is it "too-hoo", "toe-hoe", "too-hoe" or "toe-hoo"
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>>167017004
It's "anime-trash" or "kusoge"
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>>167017004
It's "paee-doh"
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>>167017597
Is that an actual player?
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>>167019695
anon is jealous of my fabulous 2hus
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is there any documentation on the ship differences in the donpachi series? particularly interested in daioujou and sai
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>>167016034
Is that aquas?
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>>167021740
C ship is slower
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>>167021740
Red = Trve Klvt
Green = Straight up G
Blue = Fuccboi
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>>167023839
>scimitar
Yep. Makes sense.
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>>167014774
Stream's over. I'll 1cc this soon. Just a couple of route polishing and a bit of practice, then I should get it.

Thanks for watching.

>>167016034
It would be nice getting it and the one for Unlimited, but I don't care about Steam/Xbox/PlayStation/whatever achievements in general.
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>>167024248
A classic of British aristocratic fashion, quite fitting tbqh.
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Damn, after asking for a shmup I tried Satazius with its demo, it was good so I downloaded the Mame folder and launched Donpachi (I hesitate with 1943). First thing, I already played this game a long time ago, even if I didn't remembered the name I can say it with the first lev. Second thing, why is this thing so fucking addictive? Third thing, I shouldn't forgot to watch where bullets are coming from, too much information on the screen after the 2nd level.


I came here by curiosity and now my heart is pure. I guess my inner gamer needed a good shot of arcade game.
Thank you for breaking the seal on my soul.
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>>167014795
Woah I'm totally gonna play touhou now
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>>167028356
Welcome. I'd say the shmup general on 4chan is a refuge of sorts for people who play shmups, unlike our nemesis shmups.system11.org aka "the farm" which is predominantly populated by people who don't even play the damn games on most days. So if you're into "playing" this thread should be good whenever it is not drowning in shitposting again, and I don't mean Cee.
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>>167028356
t. gone in 2 weeks again
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I miss the randomizer streams. When is the chink back again?
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toohoo more like toopoo
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>>166868521
It's a pretty unique game, the bullet pattern and stage design is unlike any other Touhou due to centering around the freeze mechanic. You charge ice by shooting enemies and grazing bullets, and it plays as a smooth blend of cancel-em-up shooting and dodging with significant amounts of random bullets.

However, ZUN had some strange ideas such as splitting the main game into 6 3-stage routes, and it has an awkward difficulty curve. I recommend trying the Extra stage, it does a better job at introducing the game.
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>>167030939

>whenever it is not drowning in shitposting again, and I don't mean Cee

Who else shitposts?
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>>166868521
A fun game for scoring, if you're a survival player though I would not even bother.
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>>167036769
There's need to be a slave to the numbers to enjoy the "scoring" mechanics, anon.
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>>167038971
*no need

Fuck phoneposting.
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Why doesn't the STG Cult ever branch outside of their comfort zone of games?
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>>167038971
It's not a good game for survival players seeking any kind of challenge, as using ones head a few times teaches you all the ways to completely trivialize every single pattern in the game by freezing.
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>>167039262
Isn't that broadly true in regard pretty much to any Touhou game? Just press the B button.
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>>167039173
Are you talking about kraut? That's the only shmup elitist in these threads
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>>167039527
I'm talking more about something like a NMNB because it's very doable in this particular case, but yes. For 1cc's you don't have to figure out anything, but that goes for any 2hu.
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>>167040030
Ahh. I've never been good enough for those. I tried to LNB EoSD once and game-over'd to Scarlet Meister before getting bored with the idea. I really liked Fairy Wars because freezing is cool and the endings are cute, the challenge was moderate I guess but I'm just happy to clear the L mode by any means.
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>>167039656
who is kraut?
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>>167028356
donpachi is a relatively easy 1cc, good choice for beginner and sequels aren't hard to 1cc as well. 1943 is a boring collect-a-thon for dads. try batusugun special with beltiana, it's very easy(relatively) to 1cc. recca on nes is relatively easy to beat normal.
battle garegga and ccwi are also fantastic games, but it's better to play them after getting some experience.
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>>167036446
Shmup-related shitposting just tends to be worse on average. MAME-means-cheating anyone? Remember input lag? Wanna talk about Jaimers one more time?
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>>167003105
Shmups are pretty casual, it's just that the time spent has unusually high value density, so to speak. Therefore, the paradox of playing 14 hours a week while feeling that you can barely handle the raw intensity of action that the game pushes onto you daily, along with route planning giving you homework to mull over.
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>>167034306
when he had enough with dadrega
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>>167039082
>Fuck phoneposting.
Why does phoneposting trigger so many people or is it a meme? Does it remind them that they don't have phones or that they never leave their computers so have no use for their phones?

>>166994127
Whyyy?

>>166994931
>Cee shitposting and low quality thread derailing are in free circulation
Fixed that for you.
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>>167040602
Nether am I dude, but fairy wars has gotten me pretty close with very low effort.
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>>167043330
>Shmups are pretty casual
post you're scores
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>>167046259
Post your 3000 hour playtimes on the same map in Dota 2. Or in CS:GO. Post your 3 year playtimes in World of Warcraft. Post your other hardcore wastes of time. Those are the real ones, not a game you can play 14 hours a week on average before setting the new WR after a year of introduction to shmupping.
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>>167045042
I'm saying that as a survival-oriented player, for reasons given above, I would definitely bother with fairy wars if I could do it again, that is all.
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>>167047542
>Dota 2
>CS:GO
>WoW
This is by far the shittiest fucking bait I've seen in this general.
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>>167047542
>implying you would ever be able to get a world record
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>>167044573
>Why does phoneposting trigger so many people or is it a meme? Does it remind them that they don't have phones or that they never leave their computers so have no use for their phones?
Supposedly they are normies ruining everything, also I imagine because it is inconvenient to do a range of things from the phone including posting images, so being a phone poster implies that the quality of your posts is reduced inherently, that is you are less likely to bother with long posts as those are a pain in the ass to edit, and less likely to post images.
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>>167048010
Well the thing is, you're either able to get it without ever breaking the 500hr mark, or not at all.
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>>167048310
More like 10000 hours.
Players with WRs mostly play shmups since kids already.
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>>167048310
don't be silly, regardless of your playtime/experience you will at best reach half of world record before your tiny gaijin brain fries.
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>>167048583
I don't have any data on the arcade players you likely mean, but the Touhou WR holders consistently report pretty low playtimes per category, and they usually haven't been playing since they were little either. For example, Yuusuke, a player you may know, has on average 300 hours per category in th7, all first places. On the flip side, the players with the huge playtimes tend to have lower scores, adjusted for the number of categories they have owned at least, but usually in the same category.
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>>167048815
It's not about me though, it's about the observation that shmups don't lend themselves very well to a hardcore approach, because at the top are the inherently best players rather than the most insanely dedicated. You would support my idea here, with your claim that the Japanese have an unknowable inherent advantage.
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>>167048867
>Touhou
2hu is also a doujin, hardly anyone plays seriously
The real world records get created in the arcades, which are basically impossible to beat for you
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>>167049039
That's probably true, but we have to deal with such data as is available.
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>>167049213
you are just cherry picking with shitty doujins
shmups in general are a hardcore as fuck genre
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>>167049391
Well, at the end of the day, they are what you want them to be, because personal experience largely defines all in a single-player genre. I think.
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>>167049852
shmups are not a single player genre
they are as competitive as fighting games
they are at its core about reaching the top of the leaderboards, not just clearing the game
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>>167050013
>they are as competitive as fighting games
LMAO
it takes 100000x more effort to reach the top of street fighter than any shmup
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>>167048867
Yusuke has 10 WRs in PCB out of a total of 36, so you got that math quite wrong. I also doubt he has over 10k hours in PCB.
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>>167050350
how do you wanna know this? you are shit at both genres
all I'm trying to say is just that shmups are not just about clearing the game
they are about competing with others
if fighting games are more competitive or not is redundant, but i doubt they are
shmup players can be dedicated as fuck (look at clover-tac who even produced his own game)
fighting games may be more popular, but they are also full of filthy casuals compared to shmups
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>>167050378
Ahh. Well, I did say "or close" earlier. Don't know if he's actually close on all, though.
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>>167050350
Says the shitter that isn't and never will be at the top of any game in either genre. Kill yourself back to /fgg/.
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>>167050601
aaand I actually didn't, phoneposting be praised I forgot to actually add that. But just believe me.
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holy shit buttrider is hard
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>>167050596
>how do you wanna know this?
by looking at top player facts

>shmups
set WR after 600 hours, move on to the next game
>street fighter
play 16 hours a day for 5 years to be in the conversation for world's best

easy to figure out
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>>167050930
>play 16 hours a day for 5 years to be in the conversation for world's best
The fuck are you talking about lmao
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>>167050930
street fighter is also by far the most popular fighting game
it's what 95% of fighting game players play
it's not comparable to a shmup

the genre as a whole though is not more competitive at all
players like clover-tac are just as dedicated as daigo or whoever
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>>167051046
daigo played sf4 for 18 hours a day
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>>167051273
Don't make empty statements, give sources
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>>167051273
I call bullshit. Daigo actually thinks playing too much is not good. It's the reason why he even trains not at home but at a different apartment.
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>>167051328
>>167051392
https://twitter.com/fubarduck/status/822045647255773184
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>>167051510
shmups btfo...............
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>>167051510
And he himself admitted it was a waste of time since he wasn't learning effectively, hardly proof that it's necessary
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>>167051510
So what? Even if he did, he still sucked ass at SF4.
It was a waste of time.
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>>167050930
>play 16 hours a day for 5 years to be in the conversation for world's best
But Daigo was already considered one of the world's best before he started playing 18 hours a day, so this logic is dumb
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>>167051687
>played sf4 18 hours a day for 6 years, won countless championships
>plays sf5 less, loses all the time
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>>167051834
>played sf4 18 hours a day for 6 years
And Kamui played Garegga 10 hours a day since she was 14.
Your point?

Both genres take a shitton of effort to be at the top.
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>>167049024
>rather than the most insanely dedicated
you are silly, japs are the most insanely dedicated, which is exactly why westerners can't compete.
>the Japanese have an unknowable inherent advantage.
and that advantage is due to insane dedication, nothing else. which is why by your own logic shmups are the most hardcore shit there is, i can reck 95% players in cs:go with minimum effort, if that shit is hard for you, forget about shmups.
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365 x 6 = 2190
2190 x 18 = 39420

If you don't have 40000 hours on a shmup, you're a casual piece of shit.
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>>167051991
>she
desu these types of discussions are the "would goku beat superman?" of video games, just pointless speculation
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>>167052094
>Daigo literally spend 40000 hours in a shmup
>still doesn't get the WR for it
what a loser
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>>167052006
I don't think this can go anywhere, I just don't know the exact stats that the Japanese arcade goers have. I tried to extrapolate from what little I know about Touhou players since the Western ones you can just go and ask. It's surprisingly little even if it looks like they're busy all the time playing.

>i can reck 95% players in cs:go with minimum effort
I remember reading that the 5% is the one with four digit playtimes, so that was what I meant. But like I said, I don't know. What does Clover-TAC's "All day long" mean, anyway? From when till when? And then adjusted for categories he did well in?
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>>167052452
my point, i play online fps to relax, so many bitch bois to reck, and you need a full team to play competetive anyway. i play shmups and other arcade genres to actually challenge myself, i'd be happy to get 2-all in donpachi after 600 hours, that talk about WR after so little time is total BS.
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It's ok to tone down your efforts from 10 to 7, Daigo did it
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>>167030939
I play more than I post if that was your point.
>>167033034
Possible, I'm more into beat'em up or racing game. But the fast-paced action of Donpachi is not something you can easily find outside shmup. Plus I'm not the type who will post each day, but don't worry that I'll follow the thread and post when I feel the need.
>>167042339
Well for now I'll start by improving my skills on Donpachi.
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>>167052728
Well, I made this post: >>167048310. 500hr or 600hr doesn't matter.

With that, I implied that currently in shmups, based on my unfortunately limited information, most WRs are set by people who basically didn't break the 1000 hour mark in their category. Even more, the most insanely optimised WRs are set by people who are basically uninterested in the multiplayer aspect of leaderboards, and merely keep playing to improve upon their own, already first place scores (Kamui). So it can be reasoned that although shmups seem hardcore (graded by the time consumed), at the highest level they practically aren't. I called it a paradox, because other, competitive genres don't have this situation.

Basically, being hardcore about shmups for the sake of competition does not pay off.

If you are going Daigo level full shmup to get a survival 2-all in a 20 years old game, you are not being competitive outside of an insignificant scope. If you are super hardcore at the top, with minor exception you can basically get WRs at a rate that hardly gets to a 1000 hour per new category. Of course, assume a game with a healthy modicum of popularity, not something like Futari Ultra 1.01.

That's my bullshit theory anyway, just something to think about because I have too little data. Feel free to laugh it off if you know for a fact that it makes no sense.
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>>167053969
You're using hardcore and competitive interchangeably, that's the issue. Even if what you say regarding competition is true that still does not make shmups less hardcore because that's something which is measured by how dedicated the players are rather than competition.
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>>167053969
>I called it a paradox, because other, competitive genres don't have this situation.
i doubt your average person will ever get as good as some starcraft top player no matter how much efforts he puts into it, even if we assume he playd since childhood. talented people that are also reasonably dedicated will always be on top, and that's true not only for videogames, but for absolutely anything else.
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>>167054608
>>167054872
I wrote such a huge post in response that it couldn't get past the limit, so I'm just gonna say fuck it, I don't actually know was meant by hardcore. All I can say, I don't understand exactly the temporal state of being hardcore, and this is how I know I have autism. Yes, shmups are hardcore if you think they are, honestly. And competitive, too.
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whats the deal with the white grid at startup
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>>167053059
but that's proof it's not okay because daigo sucks now
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>>167053969
This is why one trick ponies aren't that good. You need to be top level in tons of games to be a top shmupper. The same is even true of fighting games. You can be a top SF2 player, but if you are shit at SF3, SF4, and SF5, you are not a top SF or fighting game player. You are just a one trick pony.
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>>167057105
>one trick pony
When will this shit meme die?
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>>167057273
when you stop being a one trick pony
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>>167057295
How about you prove you're not a one-trick pony yourself seeing as how you're so hot to preach that bullshit?
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>>167057391
sorry i don't understand, i can't speak one trick pony
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>>167057425
Simply ebin my friend, now go back to 1CC collecting obscure poojin kusoge games just like Jaimers.
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>>167057564
are your score initials OTP?
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>>167057758
not an argument
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>>167019695
>Is that an actual player?
Yeah that's chumthebum rocking aborigine sheek, keeping chris hanson employed i don't doubt.

>>167022518
Looks like it, wake n bake n maybe cake.

>>167039173
Dunno but i play arcade racers,pinball,run n guns etcetc

>>167048583
>since kids already.
This english, morning kraut.

>>167042642
>Wanna talk about Jaimers one more time?

He looks like walking evidence for the Kalergi plan desu.
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also morning lads
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>>167039173
who of the STG Cult doesn't play other games? name names right now.
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>>167057947
>i play arcade racers,pinball,run n guns etcetc
That's some excellent taste you've got there Cee, you're not that bad of a guy.
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>>167058287
I used to play sf3 third strike a lot to but after my playing buddy dropped out I had no one to really go at it with outside of online so moved onto shmups. Arcade racers i've played for years since wipeout was new on shelves and my old man got me into pinball a few years back then by chance a seafront arcade bought in like 12 machines which is beyond rare for this country but i also play pinfx2, pin arc rarely and mostly pro pinball. I played through rendering ranger on snes the other day and almost 1cced it on my 3rd try which was odd given the games reputation.
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>>167058549
>all that casual trash
no wonder you stopped playing shmups, you're not man enough for them
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>>167058549
>I played through rendering ranger on snes the other day and almost 1cced it on my 3rd try which was odd given the games reputation.
haven't played that one, but the difficulty of "hard" console games is overhyped, for example recca.
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>>167058615
The only thing that offends me here is the tier of wit and bantz which is scraping the barrel, c'mon son you can give me something better than that.

>>167058647
It actually reminds me of recca due to some epilepsy inducing sprite flicker. I'm not sure which i'd rather endure, wank slowdown or ravey sprite flicker?
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>>167056847
I think because he's getting old
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>>167059034
He's probs just stopped caring, i mean he has a family and is getting older after doing the same thing for so long.
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>>167059260
sex - not even once.
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>>167059791
I thought he had kids? I mean in the genetic offspring sense not the chum by the swings way.
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daigo is not married and has no gf or kids
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>>167061889
shizzle thought he did for some reason.
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>>167048867
how can you make such a large logical error without noticing?! It took yusuke much more than a thousand hours to get his first wr, of course if he goes for 10 categories afterwards those are gonna be easier since they're the same game so there are always similarities. Overall Yusuke has over 5000 hours in PCB so using him for your arguments is beyond retarded
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>all these """people""" with 5k hours in a single game
>meanwhile you can acquire a phd in an entire field of study in less time (by the hour, that is)

L O L
O
L
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>>167063250
where is the fun in that? though playing a single game for 5k is not fun either.
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Wasshoi Tokaigi 2017, so far shmups related is DFKBL on February 11.
Not sure if it will be streamed
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>>167063415
>DFKBL
christ no thanks.
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I'M TRYING TO FUCKING PRACTICE
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>>167063395

well sadly there's not much fun in either of those things

i admire people who can sink 5k hours into a single game and still have fun with it
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>>167063562

>uses sf4 te fightstick like me
>has tuxedo cat like me
>has tate monitor like me

if that monitor is a dell 2417dg then you've clearly broken into my house and i'm officially scared
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>>167063887
my monitor is the U2415 or something like it, idk if yours is 16:10.
The TE stick is lovely for shmups, I've put the PS360+ after it didn't work on my laptop.
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>>167063887
also, do you play ketsui
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>>167064004

mine is 16:9.

i have a te stick and a new hori kai 4 i bought for fighting games, haven't put in the effort to get comfortable using either of them for shmups yet though (i still use a 360 pad, pls n-no bully ;_;)
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>>167064058
Mulders graced us with his presence.
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>>167064058

no ketsui, i'm mostly playing mushihimsama and raiden 4 these days
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Gain is fun but my birdos really suck
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>>167063062
The whole thing is faulty, thanks for reading though.
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>>167064317

>playing raiden
>ever

shit taste desu
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>>167064513
use the trees as a guideline for when and where to bomb, use kamui's replay as an example.
>>167064317
mushi is fun but some of its stages are a bit too strict with your movement I think
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>>167066323

i've only just got to the point with it where i'm comfortable making a big effort to work on my score, and i definitely have mixed feelings about the system

i like the arrange mode, though. haven't tried 1.5 seriously yet, though it sounds promising
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>tfw keyboard player, because you poor for getting good controller
shmups is luxury
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shumpg always dies now, i figure it's because the ameriqueefs have all gone to bed.
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is garegga too complex for jaimers
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>>167063468
t.farmdad the garrega cab is right over here
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>>167068694
only westies who play that shit are bananatragic and buzz light year.
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>>167047843
Tbh 500 hours doesn't get you very far in cs:go. 500 hours into a shmup and you'd better have a nice score.
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>>167069496
>Tbh 500 hours doesn't get you very far in cs:go
you're kidding, right? even a total retard would reach global elite in that time.
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Fuck, my shoes which I bought online just arrived, and they are way too small for me!
My old shoes are already falling apart!!!
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We need a new threada, oh oh
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>>167071758
you can have my shoes if you want
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rest in peace shmupg!
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>>167073365
死 ぬ が よ い 。
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>>167071758
>Fuck, my shoes which I bought online just arrived, and they are way too small for me!

Thats what you get for being a tranny and thinking you can fit into womens equivalent sizes.
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>>167075834
You just have to use a knife and cut until it fits
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>>167078629
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garegga general
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