XCOM General - /xcg/

pistols are useful

LW2 is amazing.

>>166502216
>tfw the pistol shooting animation was cool at first
>it now looks dorky as hell and i dream of just being able to have people hold pistols like normal people

LW2 is fucking garbage

>lines of sight completely broken
>le graze band makes previous point blank "sure thing" shots into yet another dice roll that loses missions on the spot
>absolutely no explanation of the macro phase (and no, the in-game avenger archives are garbage and dont tell you anything about how to progress the game)
>absolutely horrendous UI that makes it take a million clicks to just do single actions
>they literally turned xcom into a stealth game for no reason and shiteating redditors defend it
>no improvement at all on the pod system, the biggest problem with nu-xcom by far

>>166502442
Sick pasta man.

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>>166502442
Take your shitty copy pasta to /v/ where someone might actually appreciate it.

who /still vanilla/ here

>>166502496
>>166502535


not an argument

>>166502442
Not a single argument found

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>>166502442
Oh no, what shall we do now!?!

>>166502583
I'll come back. Still need to check legendary off my list.

>tfw waiting for long war to get balanced out and for easymode mods to get released so i can enjoy it as a baddie

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Reposting just as i cannot find the answer with my apperent weak googling.
>Does anyone else though know what the minimum hack success means?
For example minhacksuccess=50
>Does that mean it's a a baseline 50% success at any hacking level? Or that you need 50 hacking to have any real chance of succeeding?

>>166502690
I just want the goddamn flamethrower fix. And it is not guaranteed to be in 1.1 patch.

LONG SCHLONG IS FUN

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>>166502442

>>166502442
>stealth game

I fucking wish. You have no idea how long I've been waiting for a cyberpunk game with gameplay that's a mix of Commandos and Jagged Alliance.

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bf4 armor ports when?

does any1 know if i can still delay the rulers forever if i dont do the snake mission in lw2? i really dont want to play the alien rulers, so do i have to uninstall the dlc?

>>166503483
Just never do the dlc ops. No penalty, they never expire.

>>166503483
If you don't want to play with the alien rulers, why would you NOT uninstall the DLC?

>>166503416
>cyberpunk game with gameplay that's a mix of Commandos and Jagged Alliance.
my dick

>>166503730
Oh, so lw works exactly the same as vanilla in terms of rulers?

>>166503735
probably if they want ot change thier mind & utterly crush the rulers end game.

>>166503826
I think they change some tactical stuff, but the strategic level is the same I believe.

>>166503416
what about satellite reign?

>>166503446
>chinese assault
unf

>>166503885
>>166503826
Tactical stuff is getting making so RULER REACTION doesn't always proc on an action. Only sometimes will rulers be able to just do something.

Also, with the new tools at your disposal, rulers are little bitches. Both Barrels does massive damage to them and then they run away. It's kind of sad actually.

>>166504274
The delicate balance so lovingly crafted by our savior Jake has been defiled!

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So apparently overwatch and some graze shots do not contribute towards your end mission hit %. KInda fun finishing a flawless mission with no recorded hits as everything was killed with overwatch.

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Xth for "Build the Resistance"

>>166504370
hello Lump

>>166504129
That's just a watered down Syndicate with little to contextualize the gameplay. I was hyped for it and it's a complete disappointment. Also I like turn based games a little more than real time games when it comes to top down squad action.

Does anyone know if Demolition actually works/is worth it in Long Dong 2?

>>166504794
from my experience it hardly ever worked in vanilla so I doubt it would be better in lengthy penis

>>166505007
I would think they would re balance it, but I don't feel like investigating right now so I'll just grab iron curtain.

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>>166504579
Oh baby

>>166504794

its pretty good now, it will destroy just about everything thats destructible.

>>166504794
Yes, it works. They removed the CHANCE to hit that it had before and just flat out makes it damage or remove cover. Half WILL go down and full might be gone, or go to half.

It's an amazing tool since cover destruction is pretty limited, so having something that is only on a small cooldown is crazy good.

>>166505250
>>166505297
For real? Does that start at ballistic tier, or do you need higher tier weapons?

>>166505360
Ballistic. Demolition is really solid now.

>>166505239
This is why doing any mission that has "intel package" is important. Getting free supplies, or a resistance mec, alloys and elerium. Map events all come from doing those missions now.

Is xenonauts any good?

>>166505423
Damn, wish I took it. Good to know though.

>>166505075
Iron Curtain is still probably the best one of that tier because it actually goes beyond your visual range. So you can activate a pod with it and now they have their movement cut in half and can't take shit for cover.

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>>166503416

On one hand, having a more featured stealth part would be nice; playing complete missions on concealment and getting a reward (exp, material, etc) for it, more options from moving in and out of concealment (Cammo Cloaks, Ghost Armor)and so on. On the other you run into the problem of making an XCOM game too much about the stealth and that's where the problem of balancing the two aspects is.

>>166505464
It suffers from agonizing mediocrity on the tactical phase. I've tried to get into twice and just can't do it, and I love x-com. Something is just off, it doesn't click.

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First advent tower mission. ADVENT force 8.

What am I in for, lads? Also is it a hack and grab, eliminate all ayys, or what?

>>166505609
Cool, I haven't used the LW perk pack before now.

>>166505753
Could be in for a big fight. It is not a hack and grab, all hostiles must be eliminated.

>>166505753
You will want to try to sneak in as far as you can for the hack. If you get reveled then a timer will start (not visible) until you get a reinforcement. Hacking prevents them from coming. Hacking will stun everything for two turns, which you must then clean up.

>>166505753
Same map type as advent network tower, objective is to hack the control computer and then wipe out any remaining enemies. When you hack the objective it will stun all enemy units for two turns, so keep that in mind.

>>166505639
Deus Ex already solved that problem. Areas designed for stealth work well for combat as well, cover is cover and if someone wants to reload every time they get spotted that's fine.

The trick is to provide rewards for combat and stealth and that's not hard if you actually sit down and think about the systems at play. Hell, you could just have two different experience pools that feed into different skill trees for each class. This shit ain't hard if whoever is designing it actually likes both stealth and combat.

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>>166505239
Please fix hunker

>>166505753
Berserkers, heavy mec, muton centurion, lots of snakes, sectoids, some drones (hunter, surveillance), maybe one archon or two, fill the rest with your usual rainbow troopers but now a little stronger.

Dont be too slow or you will get fucked by reinforcements.

>>166504794
My favourite use of demo is to blow up cars ayys are hiding behid. Never gets old.

Yes, the ability is great.

>There are people right now who don't have success based dynamic force level
It's like you people don't want ADVENT to punch you with archons while you have conventional weapons if you keep getting perfect missions

>>166508062

>dude look how hardcore i am....


kys

>>166508232
I'm playing LW2 on Rookie. I just think it's interesting to have ADVENT respond to the resistance with appropriate force on every encounter

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>rescue prisoners mission
>very low ammount of time for infiltration but just enough to get 2 shinobis inside

should i do it?

>>166508856
yes

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>Reinforcements drop somewhere you can't see them
Are they in front, to the side? Left, right, behind me? What did the building look like? Can I hear them? Are they behind me? Don't tell me they are behind me...

>>166508856
It would be pretty hard, esspecially right now. Pods are bugged and follow you/know where you are. 1.1 will make it so they can't know where you are and will stick to patrol routes. As it is right now, you are likely to have them run into you if they know they can flank you and they have enough movement to do so.

Be careful, take corner cover and make VERY wide movement. If it's extremely light, then it will be 2-3 single drones and three pods of three.

Deleted my mod cache and I'm still subscribed to all the mods I want, but steam workshop isn't downloading them. How can I force steam to download my subscribed mods, without having to individually find each one of ~80 mods and individually unsubscribing then re-subscribing?

I already tried changing download location in steam settings, leaving the launcher open, subscribing to an extra mod both on browser workshop and regular workshop.

>want to play long dong but also want to wait until the update

HELP

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>>166508856
>decide to do an ebin stealth mission
>teehee, look at all of these pods I'm walking around :)
>oh wait, 3 pods are just going to sit on the objective the whole time never moving, and not reacting to the grenade I threw in the opposite direction

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>>166503446
>>166504253

Give me your best SWAT/Tacticool outfit mods boys

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>Starting to get minor breakthroughs on the avatar project
>Still haven't "built the resistance" yet
>Still haven't built a skulljack because I've yet to acquire another officer corpse
>Three missions pop at once
>Any of them could be the "liberation" mission, or none of them
>~ + PowerUp

So fucking done with this shit.

>>166504363
>>166506247
Any answers? I just need a yes or no if possible. It sounds dumb but I want to change the game to my play style of sneaky sneaky metal gear.

apparently low enemy readiness means camping 3 pods directly on top of the objective

>>166509976
Interacting with the objective always breaks concealment. The argument was that it's a team tactics game and not a stealth game.

>>166509976
I don't know of a way to turn it off. I don't think it can be switched off just through some .ini tinkering.

>>166509986
Of course. If they were ready, they would be patrolling the area. Since you caught them unaware, they are just sitting around.

Magnificent isn't it?

>>166510868
>>166509986
It's unintentional. Will be fixed in 1.1

>>166509234
Those look pretty cool, I might try the helmets at the very least.

>>166502118
what is this mod?

>>166509565
the mw3 stuff is pretty good for swat themed dudes

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that op name

>>166512229
>XCOM2 expansion adds rulers for all aliens AND Super Rulers

>>166512229
if the operation includes both those things

ho boy

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>>166509565
https://mega.nz/#!O98mQLwZ!I-CYKEex86cLI2sCOUOlUjeqarRB2DzpEQHjchSg5CM

>>166511786

MK2 powered helmets, it's buried somewhere on the nexus

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IT'S TIME

>>166512320
WAAA WHEN DID THIS COME OUT

>>166512824

It hasn't, that's why he is posting it here.

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neat i liked how these things look

>>166513079
>They can give mecs custom skins
>but none of the other alien races
this makes me mad

>>166513079
God that's ugly.

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>concern level: almost

>>166513294
I think that's the point

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>>166505948
>>166506008
>>166506104
>>166507173
Thanks for the intel. So scout out the pods, be in range for a hack to stun all if I need to and just wipe them all out. I hop i'll be fine with laser tier weapons + some armor above kevlar.

I'll give it a go after hunting down some faceless with resistance mecs I found.

>>166513079
>3OUX
More utterly meaningless numbers and letters.

Whatever could that possibly mean?

>>166513079
>rusted out legs

Jesus christ, why isn't the resistance performing maintenance on their battle robots, put some fucking paint over that metal

>>166513884
looks more like mud/dirt

god damn sectoid mindspin is annoying

that shit recharges fucking instantly

I'm glad I didn't fell to the Long War meme

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Vigilo Confido

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>>166513852
It's XCOM sideways and mirrored

How long until we get carbines and other weapon choices back?

How difficult would it be to fix these classes/let more of them pick from more secondaries, because this fucking gunner gets a knife shit needs to stop, and snipers aren't supposed to be doing the scout, sorry, Shinobi's job.

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>>166514367
but the stab animation is so stiff and amateur it's funny

we can't take that away from anyone

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>LW2 1.1 Patch isn't out yet
>still have to deal with pods following my squad while in stealth

>>166503416
Satellite Reign?

>>166514585
I just want the Long War feeling back. Choosing who gets to carry the sawn off was a mark of personality or at least a sign of preparation for a really difficult mission. Now every Infantry in the game has it at all times. Even as a 3gun fag I really dislike the lack of freedom in equipment choice in LW2. That third inventory slot is a tiny reparation for what they took.

Also if they'd done it right you could give that combat knife to everyone.

>>166514725
They can smell you.

can we discuss how fucking bad the strat layer of lw is. literally vanilla was better. it has no idea want it wants to be and neither do you since there are no fucking explainations.

>>166514909
yeah that is a really good point, lw1 did a lot of work to make it so people could use more diverse weaponry and lw2 has really not done that at all i guess mostly because a lot of the weapons in xc2 are almost exclusively used for class ability gimmicks instead of having some interesting use on their own

>>166516265
I hate having little baby haven leaders that don't do their job properly if I don't juice the fuck out of them in missions just to basically sacrifice them the moment I've spent enough time to make them optimal at their job.

Playing regular XCOM, have a question, does the rocket launcher have an upgraded form? I'm at laser weapons for everything but the rocket launcher.

>>166516819
gauss, and plasma level.

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HAHA TIME TO OPERATE

>>166515826
>LW 1.1 patch notes: gave your soldiers a bath

>Heaven Defense mission
>There are 2 flares, one of each side of the map
>Only one can actually be used for evac once the skyranger arrives

Is this a bug or intended MAGNIFENT DESING?

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>>166517316
>don't ask don't tell.jpeg

>>166517435
One is a trap.

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>need officer corpse to make skulljack
>none of the missions that I keep corpses on will spawn an officer

LONG. DONG.

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>Swarming and Impregnable Advent Convoy attack
I was surprised there were this few enemies, I expected 70ish or so.

>>166517618
well what the hell did you do with your first officer corpse?

>>166517618
Why not just smack an Advent HQ and mount the general's moncole head?

>>166517597
>your tacti pants really bring out the color of your eyes.
>Thanks bro

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>tfw this is what rebels should look like in xcom 2
>instead i apparently have a factory producing perfectly uniform clothing and armor for me to pop on my guys i can even get hats made in the exact same camo as my pants easy as fuck
even for you tacticool fellas you should at least want the option to have officers with bright-colored dress berets for maximum badassery i mean c'mon

>>166517737
I assume it was consumed in the autopsy? I haven't sold anything but some minor PCS modules.

>>166516952
Oh. Well hope it's not much longer after getting psy operatives.

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>three grazes in a row against a mec
Fucking magnificent. Is there an ini config that I could change?

>>166518163
Yes.

>>166517816
I just assume that the ayys didnt give a fuck about the old world armor and its around where people can get to it

I mean if rebelfags are dumb enough to use battle armor thats essentially useless, why not let them?

>>166518163
Go to the options menu and set gaze band to 0. Might bite you in the ass when you stop getting gazed on as well

>>166518163

you should check the options menu

>>166518163
Here is the thing, most of the times you graze, those are likely misses. Would you rather be doing no damage?

>>166519209
The way the band works it's half the time, not "most".

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>>166502442
so what you're saying is there are new mechanics that you're too stupid to play around?
the only legitimate argument is LoS being buggy, and that's not a balance issue, it's a functional issue. That's going to be addressed regardless of your opinion on it, unlike subjective critiques like class balance/shivs/grenades/SPARKs/AR bosses. Give it a week, play bronzeman in the meantime, play more conservatively and abuse the tools available to you in and out of game good pasta though, baited a passionately "done with morons" response out of me

>>166519209
No, it should be an equal amount of half hits and half misses.

>>166519728
Statistics BOY. Sure 50% of the time a graze happens it COULD be a miss, but that's not the way reality works and you know it. Law of averages will try to make it 50% over time, but do you really want to take the chance that your luck will hold out and you will have more hits then misses.

I would rather 3 soldiers hit the 30% on a graze band, then to turn it off and have them 2 miss and 1 hit.

The only time that grazes start to become a problem is later on in the campaign when you shots are getting close to 100% and it rolls over that 100%, so it's still a graze.

It both hurts and helps and I really don't know what to make of it.

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>>166520026
not to mention
>"sure thing"
>failing to account for potential damage reduction just about, if not every unit that punishes over-extension and reckless gameplay
welcome to "playing Long War like XCOM and having a bad time": the squeakuel

So now that the R6S ports are done, what game will be ported next?
Please be Battlefield

>>166520345
titanfall2 plz

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>Baseline Enemy Activity: Unknown

Guys, I'm scared.

>>166520503
This

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here goes nothing

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>>166517597
Reminds me of this pic.

>>166520070
>Game literally makes a dice roll for hitting
>"Statistics isn't how it works"
lolok

Over the course of your campaign it'll average out to 50/50. Just depends if you want to have more all or nothing on the accuracy roll, grazeband adds a gradient.

>>166520529

Better than the enemy being within.

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>>166517316
the operations never end

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>>166517597
>>166520564

is there a mod or ini edit that lets me actually target civilians?

>>166517316
PolandandrussiaMOH.jpg

>>166520026
He's right about the in game archives. Nothing in the encyclopedia explains how to start countering the Avatar project, so far it's all come from outside sources. This is bad, it shows a complete lack of understanding of how people are going to try to approach the game and I expect better from people that want to start their own gaming company.

Aside from that, there are issues with the strategy layer, both from a gameplay perspective and just general mindset. It's a grind. Now you could go ahead and say "WELL DUH, IT'S A LONG WAR", but you still have to make the game fun.

LW1 wasn't like this. Every mission was important, for different reason, sure, you could skip something, but it had consequences for it, whether it was Aliens increasing their strength, or panic increase or a satellite being shot down.

This made it exciting and missions things you needed to be prepared for. This doesn't exist in LW2. Most missions are pretty much worthless and there is no consequence for skipping them, not even the force increases are that big a deal when you know how to manipulate the map to just move strength to a different region.

This makes things boring and predictable, with the game coming down to a race against a timer because XCOM is too powerful in the strategy layer.

How can it be a long war of going back and forth, when the game wants me to rush because the devs couldn't think of any other way to counter XCOM?

If Pavaonis wants to be succesful, they will need to realize the most important thing in a game is proper documentation as well as leading a player. Not necessarily hand holding, but giving the player just enough information to put the pieces together.

This is something the vanilla game does well. It introduces the resistance, the idea of regions and then puts up the blacksite and then the Avatar project and makes it known how to counter it. LW2 doesn't do this at all and the only reason people knew about this is beta testers.

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T-thanks xcom

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>one muton beserker panics the whole squad

I WASN'T READY FOR THEM YET.

>>166520681
No you idiot, the problem is that Law of Averages doesn't work like you think it does. It is a 50% chance. That's it. It's either a hit or a miss that rolled into a graze, but if you look at the actual statistical outcome, you will notice that one result is coming out over the other.

There is only a very small chance that a pure 50% hit/miss ratio will occur and it gets worse the more numbers you throw at it. Statistics IS how it works, people just apply illogical reasoning to statistics. They humanize them. It's the same as if I took 50% shots. I have a 50% chance of hitting, right? But it's wrong to assume that I will hit half of my 50% shots. It's not the way statistical averages work.

I'm going to contact the author of Perfect Information, so that he can add in your actual roll against the percentage. Then we can see how many shots from grazes ended up being hits or misses. It will always be one or the other in the majority and it will always vary significantly between games.

>>166522480
>Statistics
>Gets worse the more numbers you throw at it
fucking kek

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>Playing EW, about to beat it for the first time
>Uber Ethereal gives his big speech about their greatest failures
>UE then wastes his turn by shooting out a Rift attack and not hitting anyone with it, all his buddies do is mind-control two of my dudes
>UE then goes down from two sniper shots and a rocket
Well, they weren't kidding about being bigtime fuck-ups. Kind of an anti-climactic final boss, though.

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>>166521769

no prob

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>>166522480
Jesus Christ. From fucking Wikipedia:

>For example, suppose a fair coin is flipped 100 times. Using the law of averages, one might predict that there will be 50 heads and 50 tails. While this is admittedly the single most likely outcome, there is only an 8% chance of it occurring.


Yes, it is very unlikely that you will actually reach exactly 50% as you increase your sample size, but it does not "get worse the more numbers you throw at it." Flipping a coin 1000 times does not make it more likely to come to 8% heads than flipping it 10 times.

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Should I enter the war hole?

>>166523991
Only good can come from the war hole.

>>166523991
better than a snek hole

advent retaliations are a lot more exciting when you actually care about the civilians

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Does editing squad size still work with Long Dong 2?

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Entering the war hole was a mistake

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>>166524946
you did the right thing

they deserve valhalla

>>166524697
Probably. There's skills, and equations having to do with squad size and infiltration. As long as none of them reference the max size it should be fine.

Would be really cool to see a time unit mod but it'll likely never happen.

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>>166525473
Oh god, I cleared all of those out without any fucking injuries, let alone deaths, and then a muton cunt led a pod in from out of the fog and one-shot my happy-go-lucky British girl with the pixie cut.

This squad will never be the same.

>>166512229
>An Alien Ruler that was a failed attempt at moving an Ethereal to a Viper body
That would be sick

>>166523991
Only if you give a play by play

Is there a mod that automatically applies scars to soldiers when they're critically wounded?
If not, why isn't there?

>>166526745
>tfw no mod for mechanical limbs when critically wounded
>no mod for bringing dead soldiers back into a critical state and having to pop them into a MEC suit

>>166526745
If I'm not mistaken they do receive scars. Or at least they did before a patch broke it (like the character pool VIPs - but mods fixed that).

>>166526976
The titanfall armour mod has mechanical limbs if you're willing to apply them manually.

Does graze apply to alien shots? I keep grazing on 65%s despite the band being pretty low but I've yet to see it apply directly to an advent or alien weapon hit. I suppose it'd make sense if there's also a damage threshhold to it because they hit much harder than tier 1 weapons but I'm wondering why this was added or what it adds to play beyond the old dodge mechanic.

>>166528565
Grazes can happen from aliens too; but most soldiers have abysmal or negative dodge chance. I've had a few soldiers grazed but most of the time their ceramics just tank it.

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Been getting this during mission loading screens, as if the entire scene except the mission info is being smudged around. Is there something to do about it?

>>166528894
>when its turn 2 and reinforcements are already being called
>confused commander.jpg

Does anyone have the "this soldier is already dead" inspirational quote?

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>>166528894
>when the meld kick in

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>start a new long dong 2 campaign with NCE/Hidden Potential/Commander's Choice
>get a rookie with TWENTY-FIVE dodge, and a buyable recruit with seven health
Literally what are the aliens going to do to these guys?

>>166529450
Throw grenades and crit for 11 damage?

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Naruhodo... this is what they meant by swarming... It all seems so obvious now...

>>166529450
man his other stats must suck

but if there ever was a candidate for tank assault, that's it

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I can't get the geoscape in LW2 to work
Home base isn't appearing so I can't progrsss past finding the black market
Restarted twice but same result
What do?

tfw too smart for long war

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>>166528894

>>166528894
Stop boosting the missions.

>>166530038
did you open the "manage resistance" option in the commander's quarter before entering the geoscape?

Is the lack of the blue circle around the people you have to rescue during the haven raid a feature or a bug? How the fuck am I supposed to find these people?

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>Assault ADVENT Headquarters
>Baseline Enemy Activity: Swarming
S-So at what point should I attack the HQ? When I have laser weapons and T2 armor? I'm currently at laser weapons aiming for T2 armor in a couple weeks, but I'm afraid of the avatar project completing by then.

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>Acceptable
Fuck you, Central

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>>166531692

>>166531269
I did it with projectile weapons and kevlar. It was awful, and the ruler showed up, but almost everybody lived. With lasers you should be fine, and my avatar progress was still at 3 pips when I finished laser research

>>166526745
>>166526993
It was definitely in the base game, triggered either by soldiers getting gravely wounded or shaken and wounded, but a patch broke it and no one's made a mod to fix it yet.

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>>Beagle actually uploading more videos.

OK he is actually nearing an -Acceptable- rate here.

>>166531084
fuckin heh

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>tfw youre invited to an operator party
>tfw they all just answer phones

Been having a weird issue with LW2 when I finish a mission. Instead of the Firebrand return cutscene, it sticks the camera under the Avenger and stays there. Saving and Quitting just causes me to replay the mission (though my soldiers keep their earned XP and promotions). In other news, playing the same mission twice won't give you the same map.

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>>166528894
Me as well. No boosting involved, just very fast operating.

>>166533627
VERY fast rebels operating at very hihgh speed

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>>166533508
like that? happens to me too. dunno why. usually every third mission.it crashes on exit too

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>>166533627
this is what happens if you boost at 200% infiltration

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been extremely busy for the past week and only just getting some free time now, how's LW2 /xcg/?

>>166531692
Think of all the corpses you just retrived, that is pretty good

>>166534026
it's got some flaws but I think they will be patch with time

>>166534026

has problems but potential GOAT with patches depending on where they go with them

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>>166534026
a buggy mess so far but tons of neat features. feels real fresh.

also
>tfw you stealth a mission perfectly

even on baseline infiltration, it's satisfying as fuck.

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>just got the game
>Every mission feels like I'm fighting an uphill battle
>Have had to leave behind unconscious soldiers to ensure the success of the mission
Well done
>Have had epic movie moments where squad was surrounded at all corners and barely escaped

Well done, 2K. Well done.

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>>166533363
>my balaclava's too tight
>these clothes are hot
>my butt hurts
>it's loud in here
>I want to change my filter
>nobody understands the difference between clips, and magazines
>I wish I was infiltrating to 200%

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>>166502118
Are these Helmets available somewhere?

>>166534709
That's why we play this game anon. It's a lot of fun.

btw 2K is the publisher, you should thank Firaxis and Jake for his game

>>166534814
I believe on Nexus mods.

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Wakaliwood voice mod WHEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE

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does regional contact intel cost vary with difficulty as per vanilla?

Is there gear other than SMGs that add to your in mission stealth? I want to reliably toast pods with a flamethrower even without lucky AWC skills.

>>166536584
suppressors i do believe

>bopped for three damage by a stun lancer
>Gravely Wounded: 14 days
Big damn crybaby.

>>166537018
he wanted a sucker from lily

>>166517816
The Resistance is flying around a giant airship the size of a fucking amphibious assault ship. I think they can scrounge up a couple of old uniforms and clean them up a bit.

>>166535289
I remember there was someone who said they were going to work on it way back when Xcom 2 came out.

A shame that nothing ever came out of it. If I had the editing skills, I'd do it myself.

>>166536584
Suppressors
Spider/Wraith Suit

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V2.2 soon.

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>>166532324
>OK he is actually nearing an -Acceptable- rate here.

Maybe if he'd stop playing overwatch all day.

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>>166534026
>When you try your best but it wasn't good enough.

>>166538435
very nice

>Have a soldier bleeding out
>its okay only two enemies left
>Finish the mission and we can all go home
>kill them all expecting soldier be okay
>2LT is kill

I guess if you don't stabilize a soldier bleeding out by the end of a supply raid mission they die.

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>tfw 3 man resistance haven defense victory
I lost the mec and some resistance guys, but I call that a solid win.

>>166534860
It's like a breath of fresh air. Recently, A lot of triple A games have felt like complete let downs and cash grabs. Xcom actually feels like the developers care about the game over profits.

Thank you Firaxis and Jake

>>166540335
>nude mods
For shame, Anon.

>>166540851
>Not using the nude mods
Besides, she's from my PirateZ campaign, so if she wasn't in some bizarre erotic battlegear, it would be completely out of character.

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Would I have to restart my campaign if I want to add a voice pack (Freeman's Mind), or would my save file not give a damn?

>>166541309
Your game save generally doesn't care about cosmetics, voicepacks, even basic fixes and UI changes.

>>166541309
It wont care.
Cosmetic things don't really cause issues for continuing; but if you were to install something like long war 2 or class packs I'd restart just for guaranteed compatibility.

i for one am just glad i am not forced to do every mission and have a choice

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>>166541348
>>166541440
Thanks, famalams

>>166541496
>being able to chose whether or not to do a mission makes it a grind
Yeah I'm not really sure what that was supposed to mean either.
Even more of a return to the good old day of x-com where I ran a mission because I decided that I needed to or wanted to, and not the game forcing me to.

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Would anyone be interested in a Tintin voice mod?

>>166542074
Dunno, I haven't heard his belgian voice.

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>>166538831

They should switch to Battleborn instead.

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I think I'm going to organize my haven advisers this campaign. Do you think Shinobis are the best for this? They have Phantom off the bat, so they can play the scout role in haven missions day 1, and not be useless when I'm forced to bring them back into XCOM to level them up.

Is there a mod that lets soldiers push civillians out of the way? Sometimes they block alleys and hog the best cover spots and thanks to the two-move system you can't move next to them, scare them away, and then take the cover spot

>>166503416
Invisible Inc. is like 5 bucks on Steam, give it a try.

>>166541701
delete this

Game is way more fun than the original, props to those who played it all the way through because i just found it boring. I had no regrets buying it when it was 60, I just sat on it and waited for this awesome mod. wew

>>166542742

Wish i ignored long war 2 until all the bugs were fixed, already feeling a little jaded from them.

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>>166542491
But why don't you want to see how useful they are?

>>166543251
Thats the kind of thing that makes me sweat

>>166543251
>heh nothin personel ayy

>>166542915

i played it a bit the first day it dropped and then stopped. i think it's perfectly fine for people to enjoy it and have fun but, for me, i need some patching/bug fixes before i sink 100 hours into it.

Best class comp for 4-man squads?

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>>166541701

Useful pistols are useful.

>>166545104
gunner and shinobis seem pretty good

LW2 on normal feels right but you amp up the difficulty even just a tad bit and all of a sudden you're playing a subpar stealth game.

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I love the Modern Warfare outfits.
/k/ as fuck.

>>166542480
I have, but the cartoony style doesn't do it for me. I want Neuromancer/Blade Runner style cyberpunk that also has combat.

WAKE UP COMMANDER YOUR SQUAD IS BEING WIPED AND THEY'RE SENDING AYYS INTO A HAVEN

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Anyone know why Snap Shot keeps glitching the fuck out? This guy hasn't moved at all, yet he's getting -80 from it? And when I did move him, the penalty disappeared entirely.

>>166512320
oh boy

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>>166545547
I dont care for the games but godamn if those outfits don't give me a /k/ boner

Does the Tradecraft perk stack? Can I drop the infiltration time by only going with 6 Tradecraft shinobi?

>>166509130
verify cache

>>166547585
IIRC it does. Tradecraft modifies the individual soldier's infil time, so it would be 6*0.75 instead of 6*1 of normal or some shit.

>>166542128
It's a personal modifier like the suppressor. Since the bulk of infiltration time is from squad size, you won't see much difference with 6 shinobi teams and its getting nerfed anyway

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Welp didnt expect that from my random dude who booked it to the timer

what do you fags do for the first month or two of haven management?

>>166548045
Fuck your mother in the ass daily. Usually works pretty well.

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shinobis are fucking broken for recovery missions

Petition to rename Shinobis to Stealth Bastards.

All in favor yell aye.

>>166548045
put soldier in management of havens until you root out a sellout and milk supplies for damage control

>>166548315
me mum could beat ur mum in a fite
do not get cocky

Update when.
I don't want to have to restart a save.

class count like in lw1 when

>>166548774
You won't need to restart.

>>166517316
what mod for the helmet on the 3rd guy? it's not part of the mw mod is it?

>>166549389
Think thats Canubs

>>166549664
what's a canubs?

>>166545375
I dunno, I'm a couple of months in on Commander and I haven't done any "stealth" apart from just generally controlling pod activations. No deaths or failed missions yet.

>>166548045
Usually put my sharpshooter as the adviser and put four on Intel and two on Supply.

when I should send haven in hiding?

>>166550292
Strength 5+

>>166514095
You know damn well that rocket went off course and hit the street lamp 5 meters to the left.

is Vulnerable to Normal infiltration +1 pod?

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>LW2
>AYY datapad
>sell for 100+ supply at BM
YESPLS

>>166550667
Readiness does not affect enemy amounts, only current enemy activity does.

How come beagle has MW helmets on one of his female troopers?

The mod doesn't come with female variants.

>>166550856
Beagle is actually a trained CIA hacker anon, like some simple MOD rule could stop him
>the more you know

>>166550791
So what does readiness do? The shit where patrols run around and shoot on activation?

>>166546080
Snap Shot gives you a penalty on ALL squadsight shots.
IF you get that perk your sniper will have to stay on the frontlines

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JUST GRAB THE ROPE

>>166551850
take the statue instead

>>166551879
I am still bummed out that we didn't get Faceless posing as statues, that would have been amazing.

>>166551921
I think it wouldn't even be that hard to mod in.

>>166552560
Plz no JL have mercy

>>166551879
kek

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>>166552560
>rookie goes on first mission
>heh what a dumb statue
>gets slashed

>>166550008
nothin bubs whats up with you

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>>166552560

>go stand next to high cover
>high cover was a faceless with bulwark all along
>rips your face off

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>LW2 has unironically has Shinobi as a playable class

I mean, they could have gone with "Brawler", "Infiltrator", or anything else.

>>166552947
considering how i've been playing with shinobis it's appropriate name t b h

Yo these ADVENT tower missions in LW2 can suck my fucking cock.

Only one path to go and there are 4 fucking pods of troopers, Vipers and MECs permanently walking around inside a building in the middle of it.

Don't even feel like trying.

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>>166552947
That's why you rename it, duh.

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>ceramic plates blocking poison damage

>>166553324
I can't see the difference between two pics.

>>166553324
Where do you do that? I want to rename them Stealth Bastards.

>>166553324
What are those bottom three "locked" abilities?

>>166553505
Find LW2's folder, go to Localization, open XComGame.int, ctrl+f DisplayName="Shinobi", change that and the ability trees to whatever. You'll have to redo it whenever 1.1 comes out, probably.

>>166553327
Poison went through all defenses except shields in vanilla, as far as I remember. That was even the main difference between fire and poison.
Guess Ceramic counts as an energy shield, because Lumps.

>>166553742

I don't get why they gave shields to everyone in LW2.

>>166554525
takes up a slot though

>>166554525
Enemies will probably one shot you without a shiled.

>>166554835
Yep, because their shots never graze, even when they're hitting you through full cover.

>>166554961
>falling for JL's lies
You knew damn well they wouldn't graze.

>>166552947
your long-lasting distaste against weeaboo names is not a sign of maturity or good taste

>>166555137
'shinobi' doesn't fit at all

Sounds like some shitty workshop custom class.
Then again, a lot about LW2 feels like a shitty workshop mod.

>>166554835
>>166554675

I mean why give them shields mechanically, instead of doing it like the it's just a scratch mod.

>>166555137
Moving from LW1 to LW2 I wish they had kept the old names, shinobi = scout, ranger = infantry etc. Technical can stay technical.

>>166555240
>the "nothing personnel kid" sword class doesn't fit with the weeb name
Sure thing.

>>166555372
It doesn't fit with "Gunner", "Ranger", "Specialist" and "Grenadier".

>>166555451
Yeah that's the point.

The sword class doesn't fit, it's a fucking shitty meme class.

>>166555372

It doesn't, even assassin would've been better.

>>166555451
>>166555515
This is a weeb website,get the fuck out

>>166555371
I actually like that they changed Infantry to Ranger, because everyone in XCOM is an infantryman so it didn't make any sense to have a class be called that.

>>166555575
Sure, but XCOM isn't a weeb game.

>>166555621
You spend the entire game fighting final fantasy villains, don't tell me it's not a weeb game

>original game had amazing cover art based off JAPANESE MANGA (tm)

They should have just taken the sword away completely and replaced it with a knife and pistol class for stealth and called it "infiltrator"

>>166548045
Put sniper as advisor, 4 as intel 2 as recruit, remove intel as timers get more and more lenient

wtf i love AWC now

>>166555865
>trying to kill Aliens by stabbing them with a knife

Brit please

>>166547992
When it's a 3% or a 1% always go for the 1%.

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>>166556318

FOOKIN' PLASMA SWORDS

in longwar i can take a shitload of guys on a mission but it makes the mission take more "days" to complete than if i took a regular small sized team

how do you guys handle this?
bring a big team? a little team? a goldilocks team?

>>166556869
Always Goldilocks unless you are trying to solid snake through with 2 men. Never go less than 100%

>>166556869
Good sized time is 6, average mission timer is around 7 days, and a 6 man team team infiltrates in around 6ish days.

If I hate the timer will I hate longwar 2?

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>clicking the officer training tab in the school opens the soldier list, showing you their stats
>clicking the class training tab doesn't

>>166556707
Thatcher please

>>166556869
For VIP missions go with something that results in 100% infiltration

For Gorilla ops 60% infiltration is fine if you take more guys

For Supply Raids take full 10 and start the mission instantly. The more enemies the better. Just git gud and use area suppression to control the 30+ enemies that are going to be coming for yo ass

>>166557135
No. Officers can bumb the timers up several turns if you need to (usually not) and the lower difficulties which you should play on get a couple of turns more for every mission in the next patch.

>>166557136
It's a carryover from vanilla since their stats don't vary. They should fix it

>>166557710
>For Supply Raids take full 10 and start the mission instantly.

That's what you're supposed to do? I just skipped a supply raid because it had like a 20 hours timer.

>>166557135
Definitely. Any of the problems you had with timers in vanilla are still there, if not made worse, in LW2.

>>166558609
You're not "supposed" to do that but it's a great way to get corpses

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>Want to play LW2
>Spent all week finding mods and making characters