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>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed, if it wasn't full: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
>Avoid the line, join the /wfg/ alliance today! PM killsaw of Warbros NFA for inquiries


>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
Warframe Raid Schoolbus: Hide your power lvl and follow the rules: https://discord.gg/aUTTyWH
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/CGVcNPj.jpg
Tierqueer Filters: https://gist.github.com/JustEndMyLife/8d7d68d5ebdffe5995a53c42edf43663
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CURRENT UPDATE: The Glast Gambit
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/738152-the-glast-gambit-update-195/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Valkyr
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/723544-the-war-within-1907-valkyr-prime/
Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
liestream highlights: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Livestreams
For specific liestream highlights, use http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Devstream_## (replace ##)
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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>>166457903
First for I WANT TO FUCK BURSAS
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>>166457903
>still no edition or link to the previous thread
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3rd for female frames
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>>166458050
shit
>>166419102
>>166419102
>>166419102
>>166419102

Also Im running out of picturs for editions
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>>166457903
I wanna be cool like the grineer manics!
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uhhh..... I need plat. How do I into warframe jewery?
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>>166458569
Get lucky and come across the right goy. Lately it's been nothing but jew on jew jewing for me.
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>>166458569
Run vaults
Get mods
Sell them
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>>166458569
1) get useless shit
2) sell it to idiots
3) use plat to buy useless shit
perfect
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>>166458569
Find someone rich, and kill 'em!
Find someone richer, and kill him too!
HACK AND SLASH YOUR WAY TO FORTUNE, WOOOHOO!
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BUT NO, REALLY, HOW TO YOU GET PLAT IN THIS GODDAMN GAME?
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>>166459902

Spam fissures with shite keys, get anything silver+ and jew those for plats.
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>>166459902
Get it with real money, or find a retard who trade plat with you for something the price youre giving
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>>166459902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Ev1hI932k
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>>166457903
ive just started reading the additional faq because i was bored and there were two things that need changing IMO.

dragon key bps can no longer be bought in the market

and a quake banshee should set duration as dump stat and use high eff instead
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>>166459902
MR? First I need to know where are you standing.
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So how the fuck do you farm forma now?
"Common" drop my ass.
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>>166462271
MUSIC ROOM
U
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R
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M
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>>166459902
You play the game and sell your excess items to other people who were not given a chance by the RNG. No specific method is going to earn you more plat than the other because expensive things tend to sell a lot slower than cheap but desirable stuff. If you neglect the other parts of the game for what you think is a plat generating routine then you will probably come out of it unsatisfied and shorthanded on other important items, which you will then buy for plat instead of spending it on things that are really rare.
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>>166462441
Not that anon, but how much can I get for latron prime receivers? I need plat for slots.
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should i build the hirudo now, or wait 1 more nitain and build ohma?
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>>166462515

https://warframe.market/
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>>166457903
Mirage #1 cutie
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>>166462271
>relics
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Warframe mmo when?
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>>166461623
I'm MR 9.

I don't even really want to buy anything, it's just that I accidentally CRAFTED a Loki P System already having a Loki P, so I just want to make enough plat to make up for me not paying attention and being a retard and throwing money away. ;_;
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Have you ever caught a synthesis target, like a real eximus scorcher?
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>>166463770
I've heard contacting support with the issue might get them to unbuild the item for you.

Just explain youth situation and they might return the item back to your inventory.
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>>166464084
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>>166464210
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>>166464210
Oh shit, really?

I'll take a look, thanks dude.

Also disregard me sending an empty post. >>166464405
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>>166464481
Not the guy but in the past I did accidentally sold my latron p set and contract support about it saying not sure if I lost it some how or I sold it.
Support reply was I sold it and asked if I want it back but I was too ashamed for that.
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>>166464883
You remember how long did it take for your support ticket to be answered?
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>>166465048
another guy.

i accidentally sold wyrm p instead of wyrm when clearing out sentinels that i leveld and contacted support. i think my support ticket was answered in 2 or 3 days.

JUST REMEMBER if you built something you didnt want to build, DO NOT CLAIM IT. its easier for them if it isnt.
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>>166465048
No more than 3 days
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>>166465220
Welp, too late for that. I wasn't even aware Support could resolve that before I claimed it.

Hopefully they can still do something about it.
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>>166464374
>killing a synthesis target with aklato

Good luck with that.
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Hey /wfg/, are there graphical options that I should turn off to understand what the fuck is going on better?
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Is the Synoid Heliocor really as bad as people say?
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is supra bad? i have synoid gammacor, is it good?
just came back to the game a little while ago,
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>>166465956
all of them
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>>166466002
There's no bad weapons except old one-hand swords, and even they can be modded into something usable. At least with spin to 90% crit mod.
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>>166466002
the regular helicor is an okay crit weapon. the synoid helicor is a primarily status weapon, with a secondary effect that gets you one (1) fragile little derp at a time.

it's not the worst thing ever, but basically its combat stats are worse than regular helicor and its secondary effect doesn't make up for them
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>>166466002
>melee
Do we really need to tell you anything
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Anybody got those H images with dicks replaced with Tonkors?
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>>166466515
>not melee
Looks like someone cannot into tanky frames.
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>>166466584
my tonk hits for 7 figures while being invincible with Obchroma
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Why does this keep happening
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>>166466697
my telos boltace has 4x combo multiplicator immediatly and that means 7 digit figures too.
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>>166462782
Hirudo is more useful and satisfying
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>>166466697
I hit for as many enemies i want with kittag/galatine/lesion with that as many statuses as possible build with that mod. I kill "put your enemy level here" suckers with tranquil cleave nikana through that stun-finisher combo. And do many more interesting things. Inaros, rhino, frost, valkyr, oberon etc. are my best friends.
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>>166466813
good luck meleeshitter-kun
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>>166467001
>lvl 45
Look at that "hero".
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>>166466813
This isn't a good argument because that's only vs one enemy while tonk is a crowd.

Melee saving grace is Naramon+retarded gas and slash procs from stealth that scale better than Tonkor without 4xCP.
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>>166466813
How? I have Relentless combination on mine and it still takes a little while to build up a decent combo metre.
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>>166467046
>not even mentioning lack of armor

it'd do the same damage against a level 1000 boiler
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>>166466813
>telos boltace
but combo multiplier doesn't affect the damage of the waves you shitter.
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>>166467116
And against at least level 100 bombard?
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>>166467046
>enough damage to kill a lvl 365 corrupted heavy gunner
>tonk fires 2 of those grenades
really made my neurodes sparkle

>>166467218
4xcp
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>>166467084
>telos boltace
>only vs one enemy
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>>166467084
it actually is. i have berserker on mine too as i feel the speed a bit lacking otherwise and i guarantee you that i can clear crowds within seconds.

>>166467089
you need crowds for fast combo meter, and its even better if you dont kill them but hit them with your waves. that builds combo real fast.

>>166467192
i dont care about the waves. i use them for combo charge. with berserker i kill everything fast enough.
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The thread I was going to post this 404'd so I'm posting it here
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>>166466569
they were posted last thread, go search for them.
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This can kill any enemy due to "remove armor" and tons of damage to raw health. Not a single tonkor can overlap this.
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>>166467581
>he doesn't know how statuses work
>he doesn't know corrosive procs don't instantly strip an enemy out of all armor
>a 45000 corrosive damage opticor has the same armor removal as a 1.4 dmg furis
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>>166467424
I don't get it.
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>>166467761
>he doesn't even know that aspd with double strike combo is sohigh, thatcorrosive would completely remove armor within second or two
>he doesn't even know about simplicity of using heavy blades against many enemies while this opticor requres tons of unnecessary aiming
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>>166467967
>20 corrosive procs within a second or two
>on a physical melee damage weapon where the physical damage has priority in procing statuses
>completely ignoring the fact that said opticor has 0 fire rate

Its clear you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>166467581
>corrosive galatine
>not weeping wounds atterax
just fucking slash proc it.
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>>166467581
If you're building for crits and corrosive shouldn't you use the 60/60 mods for more procs?
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>>166467905

I think it's something like "shitloads of guns and wrecking the fuck out of weak-ass enemies with overpowered bullshit"
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>>166468201
Only thing, that is completely clear here, is that you never used melee weapons. So you refer to your ranged "damage" dealing thingies without understanding atk per second on melee.
>>166468310
Nah, on high level slash gala deals less damage per second.
>>166468312
Nah, i got enough procs. The more base damage for critting, the better,
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What's the go-to place to level my weapons/frames?

I heard Draco got nerfed.

Also I just finished making Ash Prime and Volt Prime, and I want to free frame slots.
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>>166468646
No more Draco. It's low lever surv now. Level on axi relic defs.
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>>166468472
Go beat raptor with it
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>>166468646
akkad's a decent standby, hieracon's pretty good but you gotta run after extractors, I think there was another survival or defense on pluto some people reccomend?
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>>166468741
Go hit it with your "pinpoint" accuracy tonkor.
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GRINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER BROTHERS
WHY ARE THEY STILL BREATHING MY AIR???????????????????????????????????????????
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>>166468646
many people level in berehynia. its interception, same as old draco.
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>>166468947
Why did you send him there? Map is awful, Oshhh! is no more autotargeting everything in it's radius..
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I think I'll go lie down for a bit.
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>>166469021
a quake banshee kills stuff pretty quick and you get so much more affinity in the same time.

also, i have seen RJ excals on bere. a real pain for all EVs though.
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>>166469141
You're sill luckier, then me. I got riven for BURST LASER for shade guardian. I gave it to my friend, so he could watch it and remember me for rnging this kind of riven.
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>>166468646
Hydron, Sedna is faster than Akkad and unlike Berehynia the map isn't awful and it doesn't require especific setups.
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>>166469308
bere requires the same setups as draco, RJ still works. people prefer banshee though.

also, while other missions are good for leveling too and easier to get running, i think that interception is still the best in exp over time.
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>>166469253
The rivens I've listed are the rivens I've gotten throughout my entire career. There's nothing before the Harpak, neither found nor sold off. Just five, and 5 out of 5 are newbie fodder weapons.

I'm too tired to strangle anyone, this has worn me out.
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1-3: Excalibur
4-6: Mag
7-9: Volt
0: learn how to play Dota 2 instead
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>>166467424
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>aggp thinks wukong is on the same tier as loki
what a homo
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>>166470362
this makes much more sense than the first one.
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WHY CAN'T I PET MY KUBROW WITH MY OPERATOR
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>>166470469
>being able to stand aagp's voice long enough to discern his opinions
I don't know how you do it.
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>>166470729
because even the kuubrow knows that the operator is a little bitch
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>>166470469
Ye, I love my monkey kong but the idiot doesn't seem to understand the stick deals shit damage compared do Exalted Blade and Hysteria and he doesn't have any kind of significant CC outside of the small stun when he goes in and out of cloudwalker.
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>>166470362
Fixed nekros part.
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>>166470246
Volt.
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Serration/Hornet Strike/Point Blank/Pressure Point
The four basic elemental mods for each weapon type (IE, Stormbringer et. al. for rifles)
A Catyalyst plus enough Endo and credits to max out the above mods.

This basic setup should allow ANY single weapon to take you through DEAC, right?
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>>166471198
I already picked Mag. Have I chosen poorly?
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>>166471534
Serration, Split Chamber and Heavy Caliber for primaries
Hornet Strike, Barrel Difussion and Lethal Torrent for secondaries.
Point Black and Hell's Chamber for Shotguns.

>>166471619
You fucked up my man
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>>166471619
Out of all the three frames, I'd argue that Mag is the worst decision on which frame you should get, she's also the frame you can get the earliest if you didn't choose when starting.

But overall this really doesn't matter that much, just get Rhino at your earliest convenience.
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Stand by while I analyze the intelligence profile of tierqueer.
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>>166471619
i havent played much mag i believe that its not that bad. also you can get other frames really quick.

also people have been saying that the raptor, one of the bosses everyone here complains about is really easy with mag.
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>>166471873
mag makes most bosses significantly less lethal thanks to magnetize. this can also make them harder to kill when they have specific weakpoints, but at least they can't murder you either.
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>>166471865
ERROR

NOT A NUMBER
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>>166472505
more like Objectively wrong.
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>>166468927
>clearly shows where its going with a white dot
>STILL cannot use it

How can people still be too shit to use tonkor after a whole year? I mean you can see the prime example of shit players in prime time but this just baffles me. Are you incapable of learning or something? Or is smashing a button for 20 seconds just to kill a gunner your only thinking process
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>>166472730
Tonkor is ONLY useful in killing bunch of enemies sumiltaneously, when you cant miss a single shot. no matter, where you aim. Otherwise grenades fly everywhere, yet not in your target.
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man Pearl really let herself go after steven died
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>>166472730
>meleeshitters
>thinking
>having IQ to begin with
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>>166473236
And still better, than to be tonkored LMB spammer until enemy comes in melee range, so tonkor could hit it finally.
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>>166473348
>I am absolute shit
>That means everyone else is as well!
>meleeshitters
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>>166470469

The only reason people think Wukong is high tier is because he's basically immortal and that's about it. Most people acknowledge that the rest of his abilities are utter shit.
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>>166473791
His 3 can get some stealth multipliers going on gas/slash procs.

Hydroid can do the same thing.
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>>166474021
Technically Frost can perma-DOT for the duration of Avalanche freeze too but all in all it's "simulacrum warrior" viable and just way too gimmicky and unecessary for regular use.
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>>166473791
Chroma is high tier because he is FUCKING INVINCIBLE along with getting a massive damage boost. Wukong is just a cheap chinese ripoff of chroma
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>>166470246
Mag's a fun frame. If you stack STR on her sortie assassinations drop fast when they're not invulnerable.
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>enter corpus spy vault where you just have to time the lasers across a doorway
>arctic nullifier eximus with 2 guardian eximus shield ospreys

Sometimes it's just acceptable to abort right?
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>>166474443
xD
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>>166474443
OFFBYONEKYS

actualr oll
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>>166474021

On the other hand, it's fucking Hydroid. You're better off picking pretty much literally anybody. And that's coming from someone who fucking loves Hydroid - but I acknowledge it's an irrational love.
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>>166474443
Kummy tissu
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>>166474443
BOYPUSSY
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>>166474505

they should've said that to your mother

yes, it's okay to abort certain missions
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>>166474443
Name it "Tummy Kissu is a shit name"
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>>166474654
oh snap.
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>>166474654
>4
Okay, TUMMY KISSU it is!
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>>166474585
After trying out max range on his 1 with corroding barrage augment, it's pretty damn fun.

At least he's better than Oberon.
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>>166474654
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>>166474654
Too long, gets stuck at 'TUMMY KISSU is a'.

Fuck that, so TUMMY KISSU lives on.
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>>166474734
you better deliver properly you faggot.
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>>166474917
So long as you realize how shit the name is, I'm satisfied.
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TUMMY KISSU encounters a brand new sleek from DE, literally seconds after being matured for combat.
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Anyone got today's sortie?
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>>166475209
kek
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>>166458034
nth for FUCK BURSAS
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>>166475209
Punishment for not delivering, you fag
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>>166473175
I mean, she would if whatever last fragment of her original love died.
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>>166475209
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>>166473175
>>166475417

Stop!

You'll summon him...
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>>166475221
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>>166475930
>Coming back after a while.
>Sorties blocked by relay junction or whatever quest.
>Look at quest requirements.
>Complete a mission that's not even on the relay planet.
>K.
>Kill 10 units on another completely different map.
>Ok.
>Get several mobility mods from orokin moon challenges.
Why are these challenges so arbitrary and have almost nothing to do with the actual planet the relay is on, it seems like a massive fucking oversight.
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>>166475930
>mobile defense
>interception
no thank you
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Yesterday i ranted about catalyst+reactor drops, anon warned me that i'll get exilus. Guess what? Another catalyst. I don't even anymore.
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>>166476245
>complaining about mobile defense
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>>166475930

>more lua
>more bow only

Time to play "what string of spaghetti code fucked their sortie generator's randomization feature" I guess
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>>166476402
I mean, why not? Ivara is a thing, you filthy tonkor\simulor cultists.
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>>166476402
it's an exterminate mission lmao, why does it matter what tileset it is
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>>166476206
its so that new people actually experience the different aspects and mechanics of the game. i think it is a working and acceptable approach.

for everyone not starting out fresh, all of this was just a hindrance.
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>>166474737
>After trying out max range on his 1 with corroding barrage augment, it's pretty damn fun.

Oh, no doubt about that. Too bad it's literally a 1/10 rng simulator if you'll hit your targets or it'll go ontop of you, or clip on the roof above you. Don't even get me started on the amount of issues his 2 causes. At least his 3 has uses in Conclave.
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>>166476578
I guess its not the worst shit to have progression not just be "kill boss then move to next level".
Gonna be a pain to do those tests though.
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>>166476371
>actually wanting to waste time just for 2k endo or a lens
No thank you.
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>>166476245
There's nothing wrong with Interception
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>>166476707
the tests are real fucking easy if you have anything but starter gear. its just shit to have to fulfill all the requirements.
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>>166476708
>bring frost
>put down globe
>go afk
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>>166476518
>>166476540

I think you're reading too much into it, I'm only pointing out those two things keep happening, reagrdless of how easy or difficult the missions actually are.

This is like the fourth or fifth bow only restriction on a sortie in the last week, and probably the third or fourth that was on Lua.
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>>166475875
excuse me?
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>>166476820
I said no thank you. Why are you shilling this hard for free?
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>>166476971
some anon pointed out that this could be for them to analyze statistics of bows to "rebalance" them.

also, lua just joined the sortie shit and its fun, plus im sure that they want to collect statistics about that, too.
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>>166477070
>advice
>shilling
we got a sub 20 IQ retard over here
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>>166477134
>but... but... DE maek statz!
Sure.
At the very least lua got a lot of space, compared to some corpus and grineer tilesets.
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I'm gonna fucking BOMB this interception real quick /wfg/
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>>166477134
You cant balance bows that need to be aimed for headshots on to every single enemy 1 at a time where you need to kill 1k or more shit per mission
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>>166477353
>public

heh
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>>166477423
>You can't balance snipers that need to be aimed for headshots on to every single enemy 1 at a time where you need to kill 1k or more shit per mission
We won't get any weak bows buffed anyway, so yeah.
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>>166476371

But it's one of the most dull mission types. My most despised in fact. Excluding Archwing because fuck you DE for forcing that down my throat.
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>>166477470

>wanting to do 80-100 eximus interception alone

do you require medical attention
are you having an anyeurism
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>>166477708
Nah. Just went with booben and bastilled everywhere.

>2k endo

o-okay.
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>>166477708
>not public
>solo

okay.
do you not have an clan or shit
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>>166471675
>no Blazed for shotguns

haram
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so what are the best sort of weapons to be using at llvl 80-100?
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>>166477921
MK1 Burston :^)
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WHERE DO I GET THE MOST NEO V2/V3 RELICS

I'M GONNA CRY
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ppl are trying to sell me maiming strike for 1000+p, is that normal? i wanna put an end to this corpus greed, a mod can't possibly be worth that much
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>>166477423
This is why I just use a Zhuge. Don't have to constantly aim for head shots. It's more like an assault rifle honestly.
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>>166477921
Sancti Tigris Tonkor i think, i don't use it so i don't know Dread if you can land a headshot i usually get huge red crits with it
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>>166477617

I'd take sortie mobile defense over sortie defense (or just regular defense) any fucking day of the week.

>sit in one spot killing shit for ten rounds, which last as long as the mobs do
>invariably have to hunt down stragglers every single round because somehow the pathing on maps is still fucked despite many of them being several years old at this point

>Sortie version is the same thing only you protect a suicidal idiot that constantly walks right into enemy spawn points
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>>166477921
15k dps or more
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>>166478464
It's meh without riven.
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>>166477834
not him but
>join a pub
>ember, inaros and hydroid
>fucking hyrdroid
>in a lvl 100 interception sortie
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>>166478464

Granted, but it can handle sorties just fine.
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>>166478664
>lvl 100 interception sortie with EXIMUS
B-But they can just CC them :^)!
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>>166478717 oops.
>>166478616 meant to reply to that.
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>>166478664
sup dude
surfs up am I right
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>>166478840
People are so fast to rip on hydroid they forget what his abilities are other than pilfering
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>>166478664

Well, to be fair, Hydroid works in Interception and Interception only. Since he can deny enemies access to the consoles for 40+ seconds. He might not be able to kill them, but you ain't losing that point.
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>>166477617
>Take ivara, loki, ash with whip or longsword with prime reach
>Go invis, spam e, kill enemies across dimensional planes
>Profit
Not that hard or dull really, more exciting than standing in the same spot for hours protecting the retarded operative
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>>166478992
>butcher eximus spawns
>"oh shi-"
>GayTentaclz has been downed!
>"Hehe valkyr pls help xD!"
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>>166457903
So I was playing this about a month ago, and I really enjoyed it but it wore off, I have most of the primes. What is the real endgame content? Why should I play again? What should I look to achieve?
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>>166478664

>He forgot the rule of playing on public

be ready, able, and willing, to carry whatever fucking idiot shitter(s) show up in your squad.
Hydroid isn't even bad for interception. Lil bitch.
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>>166479115
you act like once you press 3 you have to wait until your energy drains to pop back out of the puddle. knowing this general that's probably what you believe
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>>166479115
>things
>being able to hit hydroid
how to spot someone who's never played hydroid 101
>literally invincible for 2 minutes
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>Me and another Volt on the last sortie just keep Discharging to stun the guys trying to hack the terminals

Worked out pretty well.
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>>166479347

>dual cleavers

but why, hydroid's not a good melee'er
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What's the teamspeak link?

Is it dead?
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>>166479510
get bleeds up on everyone then drown them
800 tick per second
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>>166479040

Well yeah, I'd rather have something like Invasion or whatever. Most people just drop everything to go and revive in Mobile Defense and let the point die. Which is infuriating.
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>>166479510

Naramon exists, so no, actually everyone is a good "melee'er" even without Naramon, Melee weapons with a combo do a shit load more than most primary/secondary weapons.
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>>166479527
>warbros ts
you're not wanted especially if its warframe related
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Thanks Valve.
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>>166479347
Nyx' absorb is the only thing in the game negating -energy regen eximus auras
Why? I dont know. Ask DE
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>>166475758
am i the only one that pictures Randy Marsh whenever this guy talks.
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sorties in a nutshell

>lens
>2k endo
>greater lens
>2k endo
>greater lens
>2k endo

fucking release an update already and fix this madness DE jesus fuck
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>>166479597
>eximus lvl 100 enemies have over 80k hp
???
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>>166479837

The answer to every "is it just me" question is usually "of course it's not just you, it's never just you," but I think this might be the exception.
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>>166480016
>needing
>to kill
>when you are a puddle that erases enemies
have you never gotten wet before?
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>>166478448

It's "the" meta-mod. It's worth that much because everyone wants to be the super cool sliding ninja robot man that kills everything in one slide.
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>>166480141
Why are you talking about slash procs and 800 damage ticks if you knew you can't kill them in the first place?
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>>166478616

It's pretty fine without Rivens. I guess meh would be the term for that, but I do fine in Sorties with it at the very least. It doesn't put the same constraint on me as a bow would at the very least.
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>>166479837

I picture this guy, because UNACCEPTABLE!
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>>166480267
are you seriously asking why I brought the weapon I always bring to a mission to do the exact same thing I do in every mission? I'm not gonna change up for a sortie what I do normally
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>>166480267
He just wanted to use hydroid man.Dont you see him avatarfaging in each thread for almost 2 weeks now?He doesn't need logic
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>>166480436
>>166480141

PLEASE STOP
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>>166480436
>>166480141

I know the chicken one is a troll but just...god.
>there are people that don't cook their beef.
might as well eat it raw, fucking savages.
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>>166480653
>bringing a viable frame and doing a viable thing is the same as frost leaving bubbles up on invincible defense pods
really making me think
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>>166480653
>i dont need logic
what a fucking quip
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>>166480653

Holy shit, I fucking hate frost players.
t. frost main
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>>166480891
>"Dude, it slows them down!"
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>you will surely get umbra frames a month after they launch in China

I love how the shilling suddenly stopped and everyone forgot
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HAND OVER THE KUVA, TENNO!
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>>166481469
but we did get them only ultragoys that goyed out both to DE and chinks though
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>>166480794
Rare ground beef in any way? Barf.

Rare steak? I can dig it.
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Can anyone else not equip buzz kill to the sarpa i not in my mod list when i go to equip but its there for every other melee.
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>>166482615
handmade burgers med rare can be pretty nice. especially if you grind them yourself.
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>>166482846
depends on the beef

higher quality beef can be a little rare, but most of it I wouldn't trust unless fully cooked
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>>166482615

I usually get my steak Medium Well. Might try Rare, I feel like steak lends itself better to being edible / palatable that way.
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>>365213619
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>>166474505
>Not using Loki for spy
>Not using a bow or other silent weapon to just pick things off from a distance

Overwatch general is that way ->
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Tonight's 3rd sortie is a complete shitshow when running public queue. I saw 5 failed attempts before I got bored of watching retards die and soloed it with Ivara.
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>>166482276
I just want to know what's the point of them. Like Why would choose an Ivara Umbra over an Ivara Prime?

Right now it feels like it's just a palette swap with redistributed stats.
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>>166483917
i did it with randoms, and know what i got? nothing. that shit bugged out and i recieved fucking nothing. i checked.
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Might be a dumb question, but if I want to use Torid/Saryn, what is the best status to use? Corrosive/blast? Is gas worth using?
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>>166483827
Nigga I was a loki. Can you not read the part about the ARCTIC NULLIFIER WITH TWO GUARDIAN EXIMUS MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL IN ONE HIT FROM STEALTH
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>>166484907

Gas is good because of how Saryn's spores work. Enemies proc'd with gas status that die with spores on them will transfer over the status proc when the spore spreads. It also makes your 4 hit harder. That being said, the torid in general is pretty bad without a riven mod.
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>>166484907
?
You use torid to shoot the mold not enemies
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>>166485190

I realize that, but I wasn't sure if gas' double toxin carried with the spores or not
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Someone give me a decent Valkyr build, just popped Prime out of the oven. Is it okay to put Fleeting Expertise on or is Streamline enough for efficiency if I want to stay in Hysteria+War as long as possible? Can I sacrifice Vitality+Steel Fibre for more Duration/Efficiency?
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>>166486125

If you want to use Warcry/Eternal War, Felleting Expertise will not be your friend.
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>>166486125

>if I want to stay in Hysteria+War as long as possible

so like...not that long...? Energy cost scales up the longer you stay in Hysteria, even with a max efficiency build, you won't be able to just stay in hysteria forever like pre-nerf.
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>>166483452
The issue is grinding the meat distributes any surfce bacteria from the cutting area throughout the patty, so you cook it well done every time.

Medium rare is good for me, and the argument for this is that the cut surfaces of the steak are cooked, while the inside of the steak is clean enough to eat because it was inside the animal and it's the preparation surfaces that have the bacteria.

French cuisine Beef Tartar uses acidic lime juice to "cook" the beef but I'm not about that life.
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>>166486745
Damn, I didn't realise that. Thought it was just a flat rate, haven't played Valkyr for a long time. Guess she'll just be mastery fodder then.
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>>166483932
Mastery, fashion, some other bonus that DE hasn't determined yet.

The main appeal of primes to me before void rework and Zenurik was the free energy from trap orbs. That's pretty much dead now.

Primes need a burst of energy whenever a Void Rift opens near them in fissure missions.
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>>166487064
go armor/power/duration with her 2, warcry
it's the only useable build i see (you can still use the 4 to sustain)
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>>166475930
>my 1 shot dread is fucking useless against all these globe eximus
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>>166487064
Eternal War augment helps keep the increased melee speed up.

Next fun build is a floating CC stomp build imo with her augment
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>>166487357
>Nullifier weak point rework
>artic eximus Nullifiers have their globe to protect Nullifier weak points

Delicious
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>>166487064
Admittedly, I was exaggerating a tiny bit.
She's still very good, don't let that discourage you from playing her. Absolutely stupid base armor so steel fiber, vital, rage are great and basically allow her to 4 out of any trouble she might get into. All the energy scaling cost really does is make it so that staying in hysteria forever is a non-option. You actually have to turn it off when you don't need it and make sure you don't have enemies in range when you do.

I don't build for super long hysteria usage on mine, but I would imagine with primed flow and max efficiency, you could stay in it for quite a while without having to switch it off. And of course hysteria still absolute fucking wrecks in terms of damage, so there's that.
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>>166475930
>More bow only

What the fuck.
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Could any one help a newfag get a lex prime (I'm missing bolt and 4 POTATO cells) and/or a PAris prime (missing handle and cord) ?
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>Spent last 3 days farming endo & credits to max out Transient Fortitide and Blind Rage after work, so I could OHKO Grineer under lvl 50 with my Volt P's lightning
>Finally manage to get both mods to lvl 9 (one dot away from perfection)
>Fuck yeah, gud 'nuff, lets take this bad boy for a ride
>Stofler
>Can't kill even lvl 23 baby Grineer with one hit
>all this time
>all this effort

I-is this the legendary ultra rare PRIMED DISSAPOINTMENT I've heard so much about
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>>166488041
nobody can be this retarded
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>>166488041
Your weapons are more important than your Warframe powers 90% of the time
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>>166487587
So she's more of a tank/Debuffer with a panic/damage failsafe button now? Still sounds kinda fun, does that mean I don't have to build for much efficiency?
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>>166488041

>thinking your 1 is gonna OHKO level 50 armored units

hahahahaahahahahaahahahahahaha

Volt isn't nidus bruh, you mostly use your 1 and 4 for utility purposes, not damage. Power strength does massively benefit his 2 and to an extent, his 4 if you have the augment for it. If it's any consolation, having an r9 blind rage and r9 transient isn't really a waste of effort. They're extremely useful on plenty of other frames with builds that actually need it for damage and stuff.
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>>166488250
Aw c'mon...I'm just a shoelace tyin' 9-5 er like everyone else. I'm not too bright, but I try
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>>166488345
Thanks anon, makes me feel a bit better
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>Seer Riven
Hrm.
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>>166488308

I personally don't think she needs that much efficiency, especially if you're a rage+zenurik kinda guy (use primed flow if you decide to venture into negative efficiency territory). I run a mix of duration and efficiency with high power strength (for le epic one shot slide attacks in hysteria). I'm not getting raped on my energy costs with this build, but my build isn't all that great and needs more forma obviously.
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>>166488041
>no intensify/energy conversion/power drift

You're still missing 95% more power strength on top of those last two levels! Keep farming. Only then will you have ULTIMATE POWER
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So how often should I expect to have to re-roll my soma riven mod to get crit chance, damage & normal damage?
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>>166489057
What would you possibly be swapping out on that? Only thing I would potentially change would be Streamline for Steel Fibre but otherwise that looks pretty solid to me.
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>>166489937
the magic thing with RNG is: you don't know
it could be the next re-roll, it could not, it could be in 7694 re-roll
DE should do something about this
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>>166489937
>1 of those
~10
>2
25
>all 3
60+
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>>166490191
I'll settle for 2 then
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>>166490136
>100k kuva to guarantee a stat on the next cycle
hire me DE :^)
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>>166490610
*Looking at my weps that got rivens*
*Looking at 100k*

NOPENOPENOPE
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>>166490878
>>>/r/eddit
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>tfw got 2000 endo from the sortie
>had to redo the last sortie mission because people are fucking retarded and think that roaming is a good idea instead of just locking the place down until the time runs out

I may have been a useless Hydroid faggot who did zero damage, but at least I never, not once lost control of my point unlike these other troglodytes.
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Two questions:

- When is the earliest I could try and obtain a Nikana Prime? Seems to be a fairly good blade. No access to Skana Prime, otherwise I'd be good with that for a bit.

- Does anybody here happen to buy Ancient Fusion Cores? Kinda need the plat so I can get a head start, and haven't gotten many bites recently.
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>>166490101

>Streamline for steel fiber
yeah

and also maybe finding something to drop for primed flow, like transient. Also, if you didn't know, Valkyr has a Hysteria Augment and it's an exilus mod
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>>166491472
>people jump into the point I'm capping instead of a red one
>ask them to gtfo
>"I don't see your name on it"

If I ever have kids I'm going to strangle them
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>>166491502
>look at me
>i'm the founder now
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>>166491502
>nikana Prime
As soon as you can handle fissures and access the mission on star chart, as well as have the mastery rank for the Nikana P
Otherwise, basic Nikana -> Dragon Nikana is a good path, and you get the best single-sword in the game free from The Second Dream quest after Natah.
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>>166485000
>Dagger
>Covert lethality
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>>166491998
I'm pretty sure Nikana Prime has no mastery requirement, does it not? For whatever reason, everywhere I look says it's mastery 0.

That said, gonna go through missions and such per usual till I get there. Feels like it's gonna be a while, but shouldn't be too bad. I hope.

My luck can't be THAT terrible, though. This was my first relic. I'm sure getting the parts won't be THAT bad, right?
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>>166491747
>exilus
Sheeeeit, that's news to me. Might pick it up when I get a few formas on her then.

>>166492113
>covert lethality
>on a nullifier with 2 drones
How is he meant to stay undetected there?
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>>166492252
if you look at the text of the item name you can see the rarity, gold silver and bronze. all of the nikana parts are rare, so yeah, good luck.

that said, I've gotten a bunch of ez stuff pubbing fissures. dakra prime, most of boar prime. unvaulted pieces are absolutely out there.
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>>166492315
Now she's really a kitty
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>people are shit melee
>lol melee is shit
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>>166492252
Rad shares are the way to go for sure fire parts farming but just running Radiants with pubs is 10% chance which is not bad. The issue a finding a group to radshare your relic, its way easier when new primes come out.
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>>166492784
melee IS shit compared to primary/secondary weapons
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>>166492315
He only needs to kill the nullifier, just roll into the shield from behind and trigger the kill animation before the drones alert.
Or just deal with it and get through the lasers at a slightly slower speed, it's only one arctic.
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>>166492735
>>166492818
Alrighty. On the plus side I'm patient so even 10% won't bug me too much especially since I come from playing PSO which the ol' 1-in-11000 droprates, so I'm super fucking patient. Even not upgrading the relics or whatever ain't gonna hurt me too bad.
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>>166492859
Not him, but, how? I mean, in terms of crowd control, I can't really argue that. Amprex / Simulor exists. But how is infinite damage scaling and perma invisibility that is IMMUNE to nullifier bubbles bad?
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>>166493098
>amprex
You are 1 whole year too late to post that
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>>166488987
>Purabin
It sounds like "Akkarin!" or "Pururin".
Just imagine: you, shouting in voice "Purabin!", start to disintegrate infests with Seer.
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>>166492784
>see lvl 100 Corpus Tech
>I gotta run over there and melee it
>hold block for that sweet 85% damage reduction
>blue balls ospreys everywhere in melee range
>soon as you release block to attack, the tech smashes you in the face with his supra

And this is why "just melee" is shit. With all the damage in the world, this game isn't condusive to just melee only.

you have to add in: invisibility, invincibility, or damage reduction to such an extent by this point in tandem with melee. And you still have to run over to enemies and smack them, instead of shooting from across the room with previously applied bonuses. Melee is fine DPS now, but it's not enough alone unlike a gun is.
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>>166493332
>run over to smack them
the best melee weapons generally include prime reach for that half-room phantom hitbox, plus spin2win means you're sliding fast enough to dodge most bullets in the first place. unless you're some kind of idiot monkey that expects venka prime to murder a whole room or something there is no "walking over to the guy holding block" hell unless you have a strong enough stance combo there's no holding block.
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>>166493332
> >soon as you release block to attack, the tech smashes you in the face with his supra
How about not running into face of this tech et attack it from sides/back? Or use something like Kittag or Galatine, when you don't actually need to put your nose right into his dick. Or just slam attack him from jump and then just finish him? You know, if you just run into him berserker-style and just don't even try something else, of course he would shot you. Oh, and squishy frames are for suckers.
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>bringing back lato/braton vandal
>"ok"
>making excal umbra better than excal prime
>"ok"
>bring back lato prime?
>"no"

[DE]let
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>>166493581
I assume you've never been instagibbed by a lvl 100 tech in a room that's twice as large as insert-long-weapon-here
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>>166493789
>>166493945
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>>166493945
I assume you play nova 300/300, which can be instagibbed by lvl 1 butcher.
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>it's a "Frost spams his bubble on a mission with infested" episode

Why are these people so fucking stupid?
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>>166494602
because snow globe is good for defense, no questions asked.
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>>166494602
Even though you might be one of this tonkorfags, who lose all his damage by shooting into frost globe, most of this frosts had freeze augment, so infests become completely save for work. And infests are usually killed with melee.
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>>166494602
Which mission was it?
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>>166489057
Just as a heads up if you didn't notice: switch that Rage and PContinuity around man, you'll get a few more slots free.
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>>166494602
>not running minimum-range frost and putting 4 minibubbles inside his one bubble just to shit it up further
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>>166495307
What do you mean "not"? Awesome "i wanna see this world frozen" build. Just put 4 a bit overlapped globes, so there would be more borders on the infested way.
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>>166495660
Truly helpful in any mission
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Does Mesa need any survivability mods or is shatter shield enough?
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>>166494814
This one didn't and sometimes shooting things is the way to go.

Completely blocking a doorway with a useless bubble is retarded.

>>166494926
Recent alert.
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>Reinstall to see how much of a trainwreck the cinematic quest is
>Have to do some bullshit I've already done with challenges on the moon, and craft a weapon first
Nice gam
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>>166495226
I-I knew it was like that! I had it that way on purpose! y-yeah, hahahaha, it won't even let me slot in another mod or anything, baka!

good lookin out, thanks anon
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>>166494814
>tonkorfag
Name 1 weapon that passes through the globe
protip: there is none
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>>166496730

all of them if you stand inside it
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>>166493974
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>>166496730
at ogris
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>Accidentally poz Nezha on joining a mission
Whoops
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>>166494602
they're infinitely times worse in interception
>HURR LET ME PUT GLOBE SO THAT NOBODY CAN KILL ENEMIES THAT CAP DURR
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>>166496730
Regulators
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>>166496979
It's not gay if you didn't know it was a dude, anon
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>>166493974
Seriously, Ivara has an ass so fat it's ridiculous
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is kuva fort best place to grind simaris rep?
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>>166497325
That's Mesa's mound, anon
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>>166496002

If you intend to use her in high-level stuff you'll want to at least take a long, hard look at Vitality to help mitigate gas/toxin and slash procs. Doubly so if you're taking her out for a spin against the Infested.

I usually run this: http://warframe-builder.com/Warframes/Builder/Mesa/t_30_3244320030_2-3-10-5-6-5-6-7-5-13-4-3-34-8-5-49-2-10-411-5-10-479-1-10-481-0-10-615-9-5_481-7-479-7-49-8-2-6-13-7-411-8-5-9-6-11-34-14-615-9_0/en/1-0-31

Just swap to Energy Siphon against Infested, maybe consider Shield Disruption against Corpus especially on Enhanced Shield sorties.
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>>166498124

post color pallet.
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>>166497665
You'd swap BR out for vitality?
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>>166498249
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>>166498249
Not online
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>>166496730
>one weapon that passes through globes

mesas peacemakers. for real.
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>>166496002
It's preference. Most people like to run Vitality. Some people don't find it necessary. I don't find it necessary. Mesa often kills enemies before they get a chance to shoot her, and when they do she has 95% DR. But Vitality is good for ease of mind
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>>166475930
Fucking non solo sortie at the end there.
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>>166499239
>non solo sortie

but you can solo it, anon. I just did it.

Got a fucking lens, of course.
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I didn't get the javlok on release, what was the best place to get the fucking capacitors? just do defense?
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>>166475930
>mfw eximus Intercept grineer sortie
>mfw no more Ash
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>>166499412
md is great, i get 2-3 prosecutors every time.
think its Kiste on Ceres.
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>>166499404
Well, no excuse then.
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>>166499412
Yeh go for mobile defense.
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>>166499645
do you know if they spawn well enough that you could just dick around after finishing the objective and grind it out, or would I still need to run multiple?
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>>166499905
no idea.
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>>166499412
Do rescues on ceres, one of the 3 wardens inside have a chance to be a prosecutor. Faster than MD
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what is this?
how does he kills them so fast?
https://gyazo.com/dc50776aaca75a0b956a061147fd4f98
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P.Smoke
S.Grineer
T.Classic
T.Classic
E.Eximus
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>>166500718
there was a high velocity daikyu zephyr sleek once, wasnt there
where the shot enemy flailed around fast enough to actually hit and kill all others in its general location

not sure if that is the case here though.
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>>166501195
I doubt it, since that's saryn prime.
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>>166500718
it's literally the standard way to play Saryn for non-shitters, basically gas + Spores. The frame guide goes into detail about how it works and how to build it, go check it out

pic related is same build using Ignis, which I like over Daikyu
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>>166501195
some dude in leddit is telling everyone that saryn is good because of this
He says that it works with mutalist cernos too
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how to do interception sortie? I keep failing with pubs
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>>166501447
im sure it does but if you look at the gif again
>butchers

saryn is a joke. Having to use so much forma on a frame and weapon just to deal a fraction of the dmg from any other good frame.

at least chroma's forma dump is justified
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>>166501627

Chilling Globe Frost. That's what I'd do, anyways. I'm sure there's other ways to cheese it, like with nova or something.
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>>166469141
i'll take that off your hands if you don't want it
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>>166501627
liki
boltace
kill everything
get focus
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>>166501736
>he still doesn't know
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>>166501410
You know that there's no link to a frame guide in the thread, right?
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>>166501882
>>166501772
Dont have either of those. Fuck it I'll skip this sortie
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>>166502024
http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

specifically, it's the 3rd Saryn build listed
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>>166501894
hey teekyuu when is your next giveaway thingy?
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@166502360
>Wanting TQ to shit up the thread
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>>166502103
Go Inaros and keep enemies stuned with the second. Use Oberon and use your 4th close to the points to prevent them from cappin. Use Ivara to keep them asleep. Use Vauban and prevent them from approaching the damn point. Come on, Interceptions are piss easy. I would use this sortie to reach the daily cap of my focus to max zenurik if did not had to download the damn game again. Fuck, I missed another perfect oportunity to do that from a sortie again.

Just grab whatever.
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>>166502103

Nah, don't do that, lets just do it together, anon. ;) ign:GaleWeaver give me a little bit to do the first two sortie missions.
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Is it even possible to complete thie sortie with pubs.
Retards refuse to run CP so the only way to kill enemies is covet lethality daggers,stupidly high damage frames like nidus,cc and hope you complete the wave before you die and headshots with snipers/bows,
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>>166503056
>being this bad
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>>166501410
Zhuge a option as well?
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>>166503192
I haven't tried it and doubt it works, but you are welcome to try. Weapons with IPS damage, even high-status weapons, tend not to work well due to IPS weighing in status procs.
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>>166503056
>covet lethality
sounds fun
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>>166501410
I love how the webm is called "focus farm" yet it cuts off the actual amount of focus gained.
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>steel charge
>on a lvl 100 interception
Why do people do this?
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>>166503462
cuz webmforretards keeps cutting videos short, it's annoying as shit

gained ~9.5k focus from that orb (no booster)
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>>166503879
aura doesn't matter because CC > killing enemies in interception
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>>166503964
>so retarded he can't even use a program for the specific purpose to be easy to use for retards
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>>166503879

shitters
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>volt does no damage
this is sortie 2
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>>166504338
>covering up names
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>>166503964
>TQ can't even use "WebM for retards", a program designed specifically for him
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>>166504338
volt does no damage

telos boltace does
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>>166503056
>Dread with 125% crit chance
>5.8x crit damage
gg anything
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What are some tips for farming Stalker? Things like how long do I need to be in a mission before I KNOW he won't appear?
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Finally get a bulky sunika. No more sacrificing kubrows to space mom.
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>>166504905
5 min / 5 waves. i think. never spawned after though, so seems to be legit.
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Fucksquad
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>>166504216
>>166504508
there's LITERALLY no way to prevent webmforretards cutting videos short
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At least the interception is an easy way to max out the daily focus.
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>>166503437
It was pretty fun when I wasn't getting ass blasted by arsons.
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>>166498537
Didn't click on da build, but... depends on a situation.
I run a somewhat balanced build in terms of power \ energy cost \ vitality.
But if comes anything >80 like today's sortie - 300% power is a thing. You can swap out energy conversion for vitality if you feel like you don't have enough hp or whatever.
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>sneak up on grineer
>OH NOOOOOO
>can't kill anymore because it's adorable
why
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>>166503056
Git gud. Finished it with 5% damage Mag, Nidus that died every so often, and Inaros (duh).
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I feel bad to scanner-kun he sounds like he has some serious health problems!
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>>166501875
You can put up your IGN and I'll find you later if you really want a fucking VIPER mod.
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>>166506821
Agre, agre. ous gref
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>Join an interception with two other people
>They are both fucking idiots

I aborted the fuck out of that mission.
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Wow the Jordas Golem is bullshit
Why so much health?
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>>166506336
Yup.
Shame I wasted some earlier on the other sortie missions.
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>>166507081
IGN:Rasuo
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>>166506821
>that blood curdling scream when you capture a target
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>>166507815
We're the good guys
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>>166507815
>Lotus saying mission complete instantly after the capture despite you not being at extraction yet
>It's been there since capture missions were added
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>>166507815
>Entire map and another planet decides to check this in alerted state
>>166508029
Hm, didn't notice this.
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>>166494602
>im not affected by this cancer due to being a melee fag

feels gud
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>>166494602
you would tell me how to play?
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What happens at 200% crit
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>>166508632
RED GOES FASTA
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>>166508632
you get platinum crits, which add 1 plat to your account for every 50,000 damage
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>>166508632
201%, you mean?
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>>166508774
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>>166507457
You can replay sortie missions now.
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Do relic prizes rotate after a while, or will they always have the same stuff?
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>>166509662
relics will always have the same shit in them, what rotates is what relic drops from missions
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>>166509662
Why do you think relics are vaulted too?
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>>166506821
>feel fine killing grineer until it's a crossfire or something and I suddenly only want to kill the corpus
It's a strange feeling
meaningful faction interactions when?
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>>166509997
we almost had one with TWW but it turns out killing a grineer queen does jack shit lol
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>>166509353
I mean I wasted some of my daily limit on the first two missions.
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>>166510039
I just left, but I suppose the result isn't ambiguous when the others involved dismemberment
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>>166510196
leaving is supposed to mean the queen dies anyways of accelerated grineer-cancer or something
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>Tyr Regor has made great strives in genetics that would help him cure his peoples plight
>go fucking kill him tenno
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>>166510392
Not only kill him, but destroy whatever research he's done.
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>>166510392
Grineer aren't good people, anon.
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>>166510392
>Vor is dangerous, go kill him
>Ruk is dangerous too, you know what to do
>Corpus is dangerous
>MUH RELAYS ANNIHILATE KEK NAO
Did i forget something?
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>>166510627
Are tenno good people?
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>>166510392
in Lotus's defense, he's also kinda a jerk who called you names.
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>>166510829
No, tenno are ANOTHER. CORPUS. MACHINE. TO. ME.
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>>166510392
gotta remember, if the grineer actually got a cure the galaxy would be screwed.

Just never forget that uncle Regor did nothing wrong
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>>166507341
Only time something like that happened to me was in the interception mission on the last part of the Void. It was a Void fissure and 3 fucking nidus there were constantly dying and falling faster than me while I was fucking banshee (not with the quake shit). One of those Nidus left and I basically had to try and cap all the fucking points alone because they were doing shit and the enemies had a crapton of advantage when I joined them. That D one was especially hard to control due to enemies spawning right on top of it. I should have not spent so much time trying to revive their asses because we barely failed it. Not to be a dick either, just to finish the mission and not let it be kind of a waste time, really; I just thought they would recap or hold the other points at least. I was so wrong.

I dont mind new players, I dont give a shit if they paid money to get gear or whatever, but Ive came across so many frost and nidus who are always condescending in matches thinking they are the hottest shit while sometimes they are doing nothing that is remotely hard at all or they are straight up beign carried, Frost tend to fit the last description the most. This last Ice and Fire unvault made me hate the crap out of Frost players so godamn much. What a bunch of egotistic pieces of shit, they act like dicks and play like shit. I dislike them almost as much as those cringeworty mirage+simulor who try to boss people around when they are not even needed. This game is filled so fucking much with pieces of shit.
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>>166511212
>It was a Void fissure and 3 fucking nidus there were constantly dying and falling faster than me while I was fucking banshee
Nidus in public as is after nerf lol.
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Whens Maxium Shekel Meister coming aka Darvo the Penny Pincher Aka Ducai Bucatti Muffugga
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>>166510392

She doesn't love you, Tenno. Not like Tyl loves the tubemen you MURDERED.
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>>166511695
i wonder if there is a tool that could tell you this
i dunno
if there was one, it'd probably be in the OP marked under Essentials
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>>166510392

>the former enemy near godlike creature of immense power that has basically been manipulating, withholding information and more or less forced you to be their personal assassin wants you to clear a path so none can rise high and actually become a threat

It's almost like she's a bad guy.
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>>166511547
now that nidustards cant afk and let their maggots do all the work they dont now what to do
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>>166510864
Tenno are anti-bully rangers?

>>166511734
He's so dramatic and the way his stage works I feel like he could have lived a healthy life as a theater performer.
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>>166498249
gold, black, grey/greyish blue
that was fucking hard to figure out
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>>166511852
>Tenno are anti-bully rangers?
Pretty much. In Glast Gambit you even stop some kids and their dogs from being bulllied by Mister Goldberg
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>The year 2017 of our Lord and Savior
STILL
NO
PRIME
CROSSBOWS
I have 6 forma in my Zhuge and Attica both with amazing rivens and i know there's a prime version out there in an alternate universe with more damage and better stats just waiting for me to get my hands on.
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>come back after many months
>no new meme builds to have fun with
meh
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>>166512056
>he is unaware
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>>166510392
>The grineer are developing methods to combat the rapid degeneration of clones
>Quickly Tenno, stop them
>And buy some DNA stabilizers for your dog to prevent it from decaying (probably a corpus product)
muh balance
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Give me a reason to level this mammerjammer.
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>>166512519
MR and 5,000 credits
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>>166512519
10o points
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>>166510879
Good thing I became Grineer, then.

I want to whisper sweet nothings to ruk while he pistons my frame with his giant cannon.
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>>166512519
so you can be hipster and tell everybody that they "just don't get it man, stop being cookie cutter, my special snowflake turns Oberon god-tier"
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>>166511212
>not with the quake shit
in interception i actually run a quake banshee. same for MD.

i like the other builds more though.
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>>166512519
6k MR
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>>166512519
To level? You don't need 1. To forma and use? Sure.
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>>166512519
He looks great with the tree skin.
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How do we fix Saryn AKA Ignis the warframe
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>>166510392
>The Grineer army is on a rampage conquesting the origin system and polluting every planet they get hold
>but at least they're decaying clones
>now an army of completely healthy, if not enhanced, mindless soldier clones
This can't possibly be a problem!
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>>166513262
Where are the peaceful innocents in all of this? All I see in game is a bunch of assholes killing each other, and the Grineer seem to be the worse off out of everyone.
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>>166513194
by stop posting degenerate fetishes of her

fuck off at least dogposting doesn't make me want to physically vomit
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>>166513389
The only peaceful innocents we've seen in-game so far are the colony in the Glast Gambit, but if you listen to the radio, those are civilians the Grineer have a checkpoint for.
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>>166513389
In the relays, and hidden colonies like in the Glast Gambit
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>>166513409
Wat r u gay?
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>>166512859
Yeah, I only pointed that not because I think it does not work but just to clarify that I was not dying as much as them due to me sitting still and spamming energy restores while in quake since I was actually moving around from point to point. In other words, that phrase was a mixture of me thinking that quake banshee is boring as shit and also that I was not being unfair in making a comparison againt those Nidus who were going down way more frequently than me because I was preventing myself from taking damage cheaping out.
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>>166513389
It's a big Solar System denno, they're out there and we don't interact with them because we're too busy killing the big boys.

Honestly it's because DE's lazy, Nidus quest with the civilians was nice. Hope we get some more.

What interests me more is what do the Grineer do with colonies? Just killing them all off seems wasteful, even for grineer. Maybe forced labor? Slavery makes sense, why kill a scientist when he might be better than what the vats can create.
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I got bird coming outta the oven in 2 minutes
what does she do how do I play her?
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Holy shit Nidus is strong.
I'm a ps4 peasant so I got him late, but my god if this is him after rebalancing then I wish I saw him before.
I ran out of ammo 1 wave into a lvl100 sortie interception with an animus stronghold, and Nidus' scaling did all the work for me. Where can I find the numbers for his abilities? I shouldn't have been killing those things.
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>>166513772
Zephyr is pretty bad, but it's fun flying around out of range of your favorite self-damage weapon. She'll be getting a rework never but for now she's on Oberon's level
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>>166513469
>smugglers
>expired documents
>red veil operatives
>various other tenno sympathizers
>"innocent"
Don't make me search those crates, citizen
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>>166513952
I have a passage visa for this forma.
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>>166513772
>asking how to play frames
>when the guide exists

see >>166502194
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>>166514079
Let me see those documents
Wouldn't want to have me call this one in
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>>166514194
Here, this should cover it.
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Is it worth getting Vauban, or should I just wait and collect all the Vauban Prime pieces and go for that instead?
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>>166513941
what make her bad
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>>166514446
it might be faster to get vauban prime if you have enough relics with his parts, waiting for alerts is shitty
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3rd reply names my new account
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>>166514710
Her abilities are underpowered, REALLY useless, and were mostly made obsolete by Parkour 2.0 introducing the Bullet Jump. Her ult makes it harder to kill enemies while doing no damage, and her defensive skill is mediocre as a warframe with under 200 red HP.
Also her 2 is outclassed by literally any melee weapon ground slam.

>>166514837
PM4PlatHandout
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>>166513801
@ 100 stacks you hit 100 times the listed damage on your 1
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>>166514446
>>166514746

farm vauban on the side too, whenever you see an alert. for me the vauban farm was shorter as i didnt have time to do all 4 nitain alerts. i took a week for normal vauban, but i guess that was luck.

also, you need the mastery either way.
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>>166513801
>I shouldn't have been killing those things.
I wish i could the same for like 4 frames.
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>>166514387
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>>166514837
smallmother
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>>166514837
[ANET]Tiffany
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>>166514837
largedaddy
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>>166514837
Anal forma smuggler
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>>166514710
she's not
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>>166514132

>following the frame guide when it is written by a literal retard who doesn't understand how anything works so he's spamming cookie cutter builds created by other people in an attempt to look smart
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>>166515273
Winner. Maybe i'll get free stuff for being a cute girl (male)
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>>166512519
Fast lowlevel clearing. Usable cc support on high levels. Could also prevent your fall from high level toxin/slash proc. If you're not 300/300 Nova, of course.
Every frame is usable, yet it usually need to have 5-6 polarities. If you don't polarise your frame that much - you're casual with no intention to go above lvl 30 enemies.
>>
What is the ultimate dudebro edgester loadout?
>Rhino Prime
>Boltor Prime
>Lex Prime
>Nikana prime
>Topped off with red veil regalia and Prime accessories
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>>166515508
Here we go again.
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>>166515540
Frost Prime or Excal Prime with that same loadout
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>>166515421
>m-muh speshul snowflake builds you guys don't know how to REALLY play the game
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>>166515508
literally the only use oberon has in high levels is to get the high level kavats to fight for him.
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>>166515812
>To make kavats stuck in da textures.
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>>166515812
You really underestimate his 4 cc potencial.
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>m-muh lesion saryn build is good I swear!

today's second sortie
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>>166515875
sadly, everything he does another frame does better. so no, im not underestimating him.
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>>166515875
This reminds me of one thing. Slowox vs Slowva.
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>>166515812
Which is something Nekros can do for free, multiple times over by spawning a hyekka master
Poor oberon
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>>166515998
Yup. That's why instead of 3 different frames for cc, heal and other stuff you can take 1 oberon and 3 dd.
>>
Go away, tierqueer.
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>>166515626

>can't argue with reality, time to spout alternative facts and hide behind anime images until next thread
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>>166516328
>alternative facts
I'm glad this term is catching on
>>
>>166516328
>shitposts broad, vague generalizations with zero evidence or reasoning
>expects a serious reply
>>
>>166516158
Oberon doesn't give you 75% resist. Oberon can't get you 100% hp in 0.5 seconds. Energy? Energy. If you want to heal somewhat as Oberon, press 1.
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>>166516158
3 dd + oberon

im so glad im not actually playing with you.
implying the trin i use for health doesnt also provide invulnearability and energy, the slova i use for cc doest also bring nukes, etc.

oberon brings one ability from many shits but having a dedicated frame for that shit brings your cell further than another dd.
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what's with the recent influx of Oberonfags these last few days?
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>>166516431
>>166516458
Oberon with his 4 makes healing unnecessary in most cases, if you're not retard and not standing in toxin clouds. And his 3 is more than enough to heal that toxic proc on you. Don't remember having enough cc on trinity.
And yes, i'm also happy low levels like you leave on any serious mission, when they see oberon, so this mission wouldn't be failed by your very own hands. And i don't remember DE allowing playing 3 different frames from one acc in the same mission simultaneously.
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>>166516806
its just one. and he posts a lot because it makes him feel better.
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I have 3 formas, should I use them on Tonkor or will I regret it?
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so if the frame tier list is right, i should be building inaros with max range and high duration?
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>>166517012
Tonkor requres 5 forma,
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>>166516806
They've been doing this since his release.
I only came back to this game last week and I come back to /wfg/ to see those Oberon faggots are still at it like clockwork.
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>>166517041
dont

listen

to

the

tier

queer

you

new

fag
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>>166517012
Tonkor needs more than that, but I don't know of many weapons off the top of my head that work with less
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>>166517093
Maybe because oberon is usable, even if it's not belong to top tier?
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>>166517012
you'll regret nothing, it's a powerhouse.
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>build oberon and zephyr
>WFG tells me they're shit
good thing I still have the strongest frame in the game.
Hydroid
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>>166517041
of course the tier list is right

>>166517151
don't listen to this retard
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>>166517012
If you like obliterating everything you see you'll enjoy it
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>>166517186
HydroidMaster9000 is that you?
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>>166516890
i never quit a mission with randoms, and i can tell you, oberonfags never did anything, ANYTHING that would be worth mentioning.

i do sorties with pubs regularly and i often have to carry them.

>3 different frames from one account
i hope you are shitting us ALL, because unlike you i have people to play with apart from pubs. and thank god those arent completely retarded and help in getting a nice team constillation.
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>>166517186
>zephyr
>shit

she ain't amazing but nowhere near oberon or hydroid-tier
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>>166516919
It's the guy who crafted 100 Oberons.
The Legendary Super Shitter.
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>>166517364
>hydroid
>low tier
come on now buddy
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>>166517354
>i do sorties with pubs regularly and i often have to carry them.
You mean you don't fall every 3 seconds, like some retards with complete min-maxing builds do, and so you can do some damage.
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>>166517173
Just because you kill shit with akstilleto, tonkor, and other rapist guns while you also happen to be playing Oberon, doesn't make Oberon not a shit.

Oberon a shit.
He was a shit when they released him.
He is a shit now.
Select all images with a store front.
A shit.
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>>166491472
>tfw Mirage stood next to me, begging for Parasitic Link and making it impossible for me to build stacks instead of staying at her fucking point
Hope she enjoys her fucking herpes.
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>>166517505
i mean dealing like >70% damage, completing the objectives myself and rez the others.

because of maxing my builds you retard
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>>166514387
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Why are these invasions so fucking slow lately
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>>166517472
He'll be dead right after the removal of augment.
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>>166517472
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>>166517524
What rage i see.
Just because you use tonkor on every first frame you go with doesn't make that frame top tier. See? Your argument is not an argument.
>>166517636
Then you're nonexisting creature, since EVERY dude with min-maxing builds a saw before you, usually ends up falling 6-7 times in a row because there was more, then 1 moa/butcher near them.
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DE think they slick...
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>>166517787
min maxing may mean putting your survivability not in the first place, but holy shit you are a retard.

i bet you use no corrupted mods at all and run with vitality, redirection, vigor AND steel fiber, so you neither max your potential nor have low survivability.
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>>166516410

>expects to be treated as an expert when he doesn't understand basic mechanics like viral procs
>bitches about "shitposting" when he has never, not even once, engaged in good-faith debate, instead appealing to irrelevant account statistics rather than mechanics to try and argue his alternative facts are objectively correct when it is trivially easy to see he's full of shit
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>>166518027
>i bet you use no corrupted mods at all
You had just lose your bet. Though it's not necessary to put it in every frame. Sometimes they do worse.
>run with vitality, redirection, vigor AND steel fiber,
Usually 2 of it, depending on frame. Sometimes 3, like inaros, who just beg to put armor, hp and some more hp.
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>>166504338
>171 kills, all with Telos Boltace, which has a guaranteed DoT
>DoT a shitload of enemies
really salts the almonds
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>>166518092
>still completely has no idea what the actual "viral damage type/armor type interaction" is all about
>still continues to shitpost broad, vague generalizations without a single piece of evidence that isn't completely made up (see first point)
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>>166517554

Beaks are fucking scary man.
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what is the bed in the back of infected room for?
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>>166517770
>non-water landmass thinks that hydroid is literally just tentacles
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>>166518353
Back massages
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>>166517554
Oh, one of this "i wanna be in every mission" niduses. Why one of you came to zabala, had seen my nekros with s lecta, for my question, why he picked nidus, answered something about camping, said bye and left mission, then reconnected and left again?
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>>166518353
sleeping, napping, lying down
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>>166518201
>oberonfag
>no corrupted mods on some frames
>2-3 of vitality redirection vigor and steel fiber on all frames

it checks out.

how can you even complete the sortie without getting carried.
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>>166518353
Making your Ivara succumb to her wilder, Infested instincts, mating with passionately to spread the Infestation. It basically turns them into a sex toy because they can't spread the strain within them.
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>>166518201
are you the same fucking shitter that uses no polarity on the aura slot
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>>166518564
Pretty easy. I remember, that there's not only frames in the game, but also weapons.
>>166518628
No.
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rate fashunframe
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>>166518564
just completed sortie 3 as hydroid. Oberon had to be revived 4+ times
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>>166518489
>>166518550
>>166518610
why can I not interact with it?that sounds hot
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>>166518303

>was there when TQ failed to understand that viral halves HP
>was there when, out of desperation TQ shifted his argument to "well, I was never talking about PROCS, I was talking about how viral damage interacted with armour!" when you could scroll up thread and see that, yes, he was talking purely about viral procs and not knowing how they worked
>still keeps trying to revise history because he doesn't like getting anally annihilated in every thread
>wouldn't be in this situation if he didn't aggressively shill his frame guide, weapon list, or argue with people who actually do understand the mechanics of the game and repeatedly school his ass on why he's wrong at every level
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Reminder that tierhaters are literally as retarded as this Oberonfag.
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>>166518549

You are posting words, but I have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
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>>166518691
Had completed many sorties 3 interceptions with diffenent modifiers. Frames to fall are usually novas, embers, lokis and, suddently, frosts. (almost never seen hydroids though)
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>>166518353
rapid aging bed for operator, I hope
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>>166518628

>hurr unpolarised aura slots are shit because my frame guide says so
>meanwhile add another forma to the frame and look at that, you can use any fucking aura you like whenever you like, because maybe you help new players or lower-level clan members and Rejuvenation is worth more in those missions for keeping them alive than Corrosive Projection
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what do you think its better for sancti tigris?
viral + heat or viral + radiation
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>fresh mummyframe
>that pocketsand
>gobbling up my enemies
>unstoppable wall of massive hp
>that noble stance
Is this what it's like to have a husbando?
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>>166518916
I give them the succ
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>>166518843
I got no clue about that nidus either. Maybe he wanted to infect my already immune cured nekros.
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>>166518983
I like his twitchy stances and the hunched over one
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>>166518685
even TQ has more basic understanding of the fucking game. most of his shit is useless but at least he builds for the objective of maximizing the potential.

>there are weapons too
HOLY SHIT
that means i better play the WHOLE FUCKING GAME as chroma because i dont die

>image related
you must be just like him. no idea of any gameplay, but why not shoot the all, right? killing them is cc too, right?
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Reminder that tierhaters are literally as retarded as this Oberonfag.
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When exactly do you need a 100% Tigris Prime?

The Interception Sortie today had 110 enemies near the end and they were still dropping to my ghetto ass zero forma Sanctis Tigris.
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>>166518924
Im not TQ you stupid fuck
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>>166518686

Ivara/10.

They all look literally the same.
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>>166519313
thank
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>>166519172
Now i don't understand, if you're retarded or just cannot hold more, then one thing in your head. I'm talking you oberon can cc them good with 4 - you're telling me he's unusable, mostly cause MUH_DAMAGE. Okay, there's way to do damage with guns - you start telling me about no cc. Yes, dude, game is pretty simple itself. Just cc them, then shoot them, while they don't shooting you. If you have problem with holding this two things together, i don't even know, how you're supposed to "carry" sorties.
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>>166518549
>mode where lots of enemies condense at points
>frame that benefits from lots of enemies in one place
Why is this bad?

>>166518693
I dunno man, I just want to watch my Ivara's ass wiggle as she gets pounded by a futa tater packing heat.
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>>166518941

Neither, Sancti is a pure damage weapon. As such you're better off going Corrosive/Heat since that will have fewer damage reductions due to enemy resistance types. At least if you can't be bothered to switch between Rad/Viral for Grineer, Corrosive/Heat or Gas/Cold for Infested, and Magnetic/Toxin or Radiation/Toxin for Corpus.

If for whatever reason it has to be one of the two, then go for Radiation/Viral.
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>>166519481
> Why is this bad?
Cause there are nidus in every mission instead of clean noninfested putanyframenamehere.
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>>166519265
>>166518791
post it a 3rd time maybe someone will notice your torn open asshole
/(guide|tier)(.hate|hate)/i
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>>166518745
this bullshit has gone on long enough, going to set the record straight once and for all with LITERAL proof that you're talking out of your ass. I know how viral procs work, I've always known how they work. My confusion was regarding viral damage/armor interactions

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/164124658/#164153950
>Grineer and heavies aren't weak to viral, what are you talking about? That's just not true.

first post I made regarding viral/armor interactions, clearly it's talking about the damage type, not the proc. Thread is in archives, discussion lingers over to the next thread

For the record, viral damage actually does suck against Grineer. Viral may get a slight bonus against the cloned flesh part (this was the part I didn't get), but the bonus is trivial compared to how important the armor reduction is
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>>166519458
i never used damage in any of my replies. my problem with oberon is not his sub par damage, but that he is a chinese knock off of frames that are really used.

what are his abilities? radiation.
his heal? his heal cant restore 100% health in a second like trins does, and she can repeatedly spam it in case of bleeding or other procs. not to mention her damage resistance.

if i want enemies to shoot each other, i use nyx. id rather have a good nyx then some oberon.
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>>166519305

>i'm not him
>i just type the same as him and agree with everything he says and magically show up to have his back every time people point out how retarded the shit he says is
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How do we fix Mesa and make her viable for mid tier and above content?
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>>166519658
So? Let them be shitters. I didn't use him in a shitter way, I defended my point. If you don't want to get infected, suck it up for 7 days and get inoculated.
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>>166520025
>Annihilates everything up to 100+
Does this fall into "mid tier content" for you?
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>>166520025
>implying Mesa is bad for high-tier content
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>>166519931
if you want a real chinese knockoff frame, nezha fits the bill even better
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>>166520025
dual toxocyst
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>>166519658
>seen as a great source of luck and wealth to corpus
>seen as a demon of the void by the infestation ,respected and have a relationship of some kind
>ripe food for the grineer queens
>even the orokin want to destroy you
Operator confirmed evil?
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>>166519931
>if i want enemies to shoot each other, i use nyx
And i usually want enemies to shoot each other, to get up another fallen retard, who decided, that standing in aoe on the other side of the map is good idea, to heal another one, who would fall any next second and to be able to spam 4 with 25 cost only, so it could be easily respammed in every moment i need it even if there's no trinity in team. And since when you're playing with randoms you don't usually choose them, oberon perfectly fits for everything i mentioned simultaneously. And yes, damage are from guns.
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>>166519830

>follow the reply chain up the thread
>it all starts with someone talking about Spore and viral procs
>"NOOOOOOO THAT NEVER HAPPENED!"
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>>166520025
By properly modding your secondary you shitter

>>166520337
NERFED, only lasts the 6 seconds
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>>166519481
>futa
>not shota
come on senpai
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>>166520487
Isn't it still enough?
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>>166520451
quote it you evidence-dodging faggot
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>>166520487
when
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>>166519830
what is actually wrong with you?
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>>166520672
just stoppan the spreadan of mistruthan
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>>166520025
>Mesa needs fixing
>Banshee needs fixing
>Oberon is good
-/wfg/
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>>166520672
>what is wrong with TQ
What isn't wrong with TQ?
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>>166520875
Mesa, Banshee, and Oberon all need massive buffs
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>>166520648
>>166520487
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>>166520646

>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/164124658/#164153950

Then your next post you're all about Spore damage rather than Procs. Just like you were in the posts before that because you were buttmad about Saryn.
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>>166520875

Banshee does need fixing. Having one gimmick pizza chugging build doesnt make her good.
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>>166520949
Mesa is perfectly fine for what she does which is to be a turret.
Banshee also has a niche, she's the best afk focus farmer and also has a couple nice delet this uses.
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>>166520949
>mesa is bad in high-level missions and needs a buff

how can you be THIS bad at a simple game?
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>>166520949
I could use a simple QoL buff for Titania.
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>>166520949
i find mesa viable, i find banshee viable. not oberon. id rather get zephyr reworks instead of mesa or banshee buffs.
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>>166521043
She has a lot of gimmick builds.
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>>166520949

Oberon needs a full-on reword. Mesa is fine. Banshee just needs a few tweaks, like Silence being a toggle or recastable and a bit of a survivability buff.
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Wait a minute, if I shouldn't follow the guides in the OP, then what should I do?

Why are these guides even posted so often if they're wrong?
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>>166521131
And they're all shit compared to her Pizzachugging Entire Map Lockdown build.

Banshee needs some serious rework for her Prime debut.

>>166521186
Just play the game.
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>>166521039
>still resorting to vague, general shitposting
>still not quoting ANY evidence despite the thread being handed to him
even a preschooler can quote words if you put a book in front of him. Guess you're not even up to that level yet
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>>166521223
What other frame allows a level 500 juggernaut behemoth to be oneshot from the front?
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>>166521186

The ones in the OP are fine.

TQ is just SUPER mad that anyone would accept anything anyone else does as authoritative when he is the real Professor Rosa Martin Luther King Junior Parks of Warframe.
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>>166521223
That doesn't help me. I don't want to waste resources on elemental mods that are worse than others.
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>>166521186
>Why are these guides even posted so often if they're wrong?
That's a question we've been asking every day for more than a year.
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>>166521236
>Will not let up until you spend the time to dig through previous threads to find his exact words and post numbers
>Once you do this "Lol you actually did all that shit what a faggot"
Literally every argument on 4chan
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>>166521186
you follow the frame guide instead >>166502194

the tier list/guide provides good guidelines, they're not wrong at all. Only shitters think they're wrong
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>>166521332
ash :^)
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>>166520025

Mesa is literally one of the best frames for pure damage and utility in the game. Hell, she even provides CC when you use her blind-augment. Have you ever seen a properly geared Mesa's sheer damage output on a single target when she Peacemaker's it? Nobody even comes close to the damage output, and that's including Nova one-shots.
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>>166521186
Because there are 2 main groups - the ones, who follow tha guides and thinks it's holy bible, son everything else is unusable, and the ones, who plays with many different ways, which are still viable, yet not afk farm edition and requires you to, suddently, play the game instead of watching everything dying on the screen while drinking beer and eating doritos.
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>>166521332
Yup, for some reasons people forget about sonar.
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>>166521186
everyone screams out their own guides to feel important.

>>166521223
quake is the most boring build. also, for normal missions i use a combination of silence, quake and blast, and ive never had problems with survivbility. you should probably use duration as dumpstat to be able to recast silence more often.

sonar is fucking amazing once enemies start hitting lvl 150+
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How different would this game be...

If falling off the map counted as a death?
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>>166521236

>"quote it, faggot"
>ok, here
>"NOOOO THAT STILL NEVER HAPPENED!"
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>>166521362
>let me just continue to shitpost without giving evidence
kek
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>>166521186
they are guidelines, not established rules. you take as much as you can from the guide and experiment to see what is applicable to you, and form your own opinions.
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>>166521186
There is only one person who says that the OP pastebins are bad, and he happens to be the most hated person on this board and the only one who is trying to replace them with his own. Go figure.

You will start to be able to tell who tq is. he has a way with words that makes you want to throw up. The pastebins are good. They were written by smart people
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>>166521517
It already is in cucklave
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>>166521186
>Why are these guides even posted so often if they're wrong?

the real question is: how can one person be so autistic?

anyone that falls for tierqueer's shit figures out the hard way the record is 3 days.
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>>166521517
How then would i debug myself?
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>>166521517
what if...falling through the floor counted as death?

theres your answer.
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>>166521632
Dying is a superior method of removing sleek.
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>>166521524
no quotes were given you giant faggot. Holy shit I knew you were retarded but I didn't realize you were also blind

>>166521414
The guides give guidelines, not a "follow this build or die" approach. It gives the most popular, effective builds for each frame. Fuck off with your bullshit

>>166521576
the frame guides in the OP is literally copy-pasted from the actual frame guide you dumb turd
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>play as a Frost
>afraid to put down any bubbles, even on Defense missions, because of their poor reputation

People will tell me if a bubble needs popped instead of sitting there fuming the whole time, right?
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>>166521746
i wonder who is behind this post
is it the aforementioned single person? could he be affirming the claim made in the post he is quoting?

yes and yes
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>>166521546

>"I, TQ, have graciously provided you with these builds to use as a starting point, modify them as you see fit"
3 posts later
>WHY AREN'T YOU FUCKING PLEBS FOLLOWING MY GUIDES TO THE LETTER, GOD YOU'RE ALL SUCH FUCKING MORONS
>REMINDER IF YOU WANT TO SHOW YOU KNOW HOW THE MECHANICS OF THE GAME WORK YOU NEED TO POST YOUR FRAME COLLECTION, MODS SORTED BY RANK, AND HAVE AN ENDO COUNT OVER 50K
>OTHERWISE YOU ARE MERE STUDENTS TRYING TO TELL ME, THE CHEMISTRY PROFESSOR, WHAT SHOULD GO IN A TEXTBOOK
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>>166521746
> The guides give guidelines, not a "follow this build or die" approach. It gives the most popular, effective builds for each frame
Yeah, and then many tards in this thread start shouting, that not following guides even in slightest is heresy and wouldn't work. Looks like it's wh emperor situation, when he gave technology to humanity, and then humanity had fallen into religious bullshit.
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>>166521827
just use avalanche

avalanche is the coolest ability
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>>166521546
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>>166521868
>endo count over 50k
kek
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>>166521827
Dude, if you're frost in defense/mobile defense, then just put a bubble, every other person, who says you to remove one, is a complete retard. In all other type of mission you usually don't need bubble.
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>>166520516
>preferring one nice butt over two

>>166520571
Not when 80% of hosts have BR connection and it takes 3 seconds to even pull out your PMs.

>>166520648
Don't remember, sorry family.

>>166520969
That didn't help him at all.

>>166521223
>a build that strips armor completely for 25 energy
>a build that makes memelee viable because nothing can hit you and you oneshot everything
>a build that trivializes the entire game
>a build that locks down whole map
All of these are viable at any time (except for map lockdown) because one removes armor scaling retardation, two bypass it entirely, either through ignoring it or sheer damage, and one makes it so that you never see the enemies in the first place.
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>>166521868
>>166521921
Every build has a degree of variance in what individuals prefer, but you're fucking delusional if you think special snowflake builds are good. If you want to put more HP on Mesa, if you don't want to use Flow, if you care more about duration than range on Vauban - these are all perfectly acceptable variations.

But you're fucking retarded if you do dumb shit like pic related, and you're equally as bad if you condone said dumb shit "b-but everything is viable!"
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>>166521827

Most of the time, yeah. Honestly though, if you're doing your job as a frost and not being an idiot, it's usually not an issue. I use mine against infested (chilling globe augment) and on interceptions and stuff. Just be diligent and keep pushing enemies out of the globe zone or CC with 4 before they can even get in if you do have them up.

I wouldn't even worry about people too petty or immature to type a simple message in chat if they get triggered by being unable to shoot through a globe.
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>>166519265
I love how this screenshoot just exist for the sole porpuse of using the reply count as a way to measure how right the idea of Oberon being the worst warframe in the game yet there is not a single reply to the replies to that comment that addresed what are the flaws with the concept of Oberon being the worst frame while also pointing out how wrong his approach to prove otherwise was. Every comment I've posted with the problems Oberon has in different missions and the way to try and compensate for it or straight up said that I can solo sorties and Kuva floods with it has been ignored in favor of cherry picked statements with flawed arguments. That screenshoot proves nothing more than a person who does not seem to know how Oberon can work and a shitter need hand holding to beat a game that is cheap as shit. If a retard like me can solo the whole fucking game as Oberon in less than a week of trying to learn how to use it, you should be able to. Saying that you have seen crappy Oberons dying is like my example of 3 nidus dying faster than a banshee, it does not prove what the frame is cacable of, just how bad people can be while playing them. This place is filled with shitters. the tier queer cherrypicking arguments to get into and a "#1" bragger who does not even know how to use a wiki is the best example of this. I cant believe such ammount of shittines made type out all this shit. Oberon sucks and a premade group can handle everything better that a bunch of Oberon could, but its not near bad enought that does not let you solo the game with it. Just learn how to play, even when the tutorial is shit its not like this game is hard to understand after all. wfg is filled with fucking shitters, but for the attitude alone and the way most people here behave, not just for the way they play. The whole topic sucks.
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>>166521746

>being this desperate to ensure other anons don't click on the link because it will lay his retardation bare for the whole world to see

Maybe you shouldn't have linked to your post then?
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>>166522196

>guy who posts that says it's a test build
>obviously still coming through the ranks with his mods
>you are still spamming it THE NEXT YEAR as though he was saying everyone should switch over to it
>you are actually this desperate to retain what pitiful shreds of dignity you have left that you're dropping this into the thread in the hopes people will be sidetracked by it rather than your sad attempt to move goalposts and evade proof
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>>166521928
Don't reply to me or my son ever again
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>>166522332
>STILL no evidence
Dodge called, they want you to be their spokesman

>>166522297
you're misunderstanding a very simple thing: frame "goodness" is not absolute. It is RELATIVE. With enough effort you can do anything in this game with any frame (as you clearly demonstrated, and in fact I've solo'd sorties as Oberon), because Warframe is not a difficult game. What matters is how good a frame is RELATIVE to other frames.

You already understand this intrinsically. Imagine someone asking you, "Hey I want a frame that can carry me through the entire game. Which frame should I get?"

Are you seriously going to tell him to get Oberon? Limbo? Hydroid?
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>>166521827
Put bubbles down on Cryopods and Mobile Defense terminals when it's not Infested.

Does anyone know if they nerfed Mutalist Carrier Ospreys yet? If not, put them on Extractors, even if it's Infested, otherwise refrain from putting them down on Infested missions, basically.

Bubble on reviving, make small bubbles for Kuva Floods so your Frost is safe while dashing through the Kuva on a one forma open frame, and pop them after you're done.

Get Chilling Globe and Icy Avalanche, be a team player.
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>>166522226

Honestly, this. And really unless you're doing something like dropping globes on Intercept points that others are defending or blocking choke points most people aren't going to give a single shit about it any way.

It's only if it actively gets in the way of killing or mission success that they'll care. For anything else they'll just move to a different firing angle.

And really, I doubt you'd be blocking choke points. I know some Frosts think they're helping with Intercepts but that's highly subjective.
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How do we fix Female Frames from being more than just useless sex objects?
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>>166522541
>defending a shitter garbage build
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>>166522776
I pub a lot, just because it helps remind me why this game is terrible.

Nyx is extremely useful.
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>>166522776
>Banshee
>Useless
>Ember
>Useless
>Trin
>Useless
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How nazi is DE when it comes to banning players for inappropriate language? Recently played with some 3rd worlder pubs and mentioned that I can't wait for Trump to kill them all and that I was a white supremacist.
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>>166522297
>Nuanced Argument

what are you new?
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>>166522776
> Ivara
> Nyx
> Nova
> Trinity
> FUCKING MIRAGE YOU FOOL
This shitposting is highly evolved, I've never seen its like before.
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>>166522919
>talking with randoms
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>>166522919
>trump supported banned

Mods did nothing wrong.
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>>166522919
Reporting people is a hassle because you godda contact mods/open a thread on the forums, so you'll rarely get noticed at all.
They are banhappy afaik, better not talk at all to pubshitters.
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>>166522661

>post link to where the conversation started
>"THAT'S NOT PROOF!!11eleventy"

>Are you seriously going to tell him to get Oberon? Limbo? Hydroid?

I would ask what role they like taking in multiplayer games and what they think looked cool so far. Because it doesn't matter if they play your magical 100% god build and hate it, plus certain frames like Mirage are quest-only or require stupid levels of grind/rng like Mesa or Nidus.

You know, engage them in the decision-making process instead of pontificating what they should play and how they should play it.

Unlike you.
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>>166522909
Nova is really the only consistently good Female Warframe.

Everyone else are either gimmicks (Mirage, Banshee) or medicore (Ember's ass, Nyx, Trin, etc)
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>>166523118

>He doth not comprehend.
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>>166523014
If a couple of shitters are constantly dropping Snow Globes fucking everywhere and wasting power cells on excavators with less than 20 seconds to go, then I'm going to ask them to stop.

Now once they start talking half in Spanish and half in English saying "lol its not hurting anything" then I bring out the Trump stuff.
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>>166523224
>he thinks he knows
>but he has no idea
>this...is the diary of (insert celebrity name)
>you will never go back to the pre-RealWorld MTV days
>where awesome music, memorable and meanginful shows and segmetns ran 24/7
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>>166523060
So even you admit that you wouldn't recommend a shit frame to a new player.

Frame goodness is relative. The guide/tier list provides a relative sense of what each frame's role is and how good that frame is relative to other frames. It's a good starting point for anyone concerned about effectiveness.

Obviously it's not as helpful as a one-on-one with a veteran, for the same reason that sitting at a lecture in a 300-student classroom is not as effective as hiring a private tutor. The frame guide/tier list provides guidelines, a starting point - nothing more. It does not try to "pontificate."
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make or sell vectis prime
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>>166523460
MR rank is king
build
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>>166522661
>What matters is how good a frame is RELATIVE to other frames.
And that's why Ive said that he is the best at compenstating during a match how much the rest of your team sucks because he lets you get a margin to do what others should be doing with the setting they have. If they have a crapton of energy, its not Oberon's fault that could CC nor deal damage because even if a better support would have been there, they still would've suck and be irrelevant.

>You already understand this intrinsically. Imagine someone asking you, "Hey I want a frame that can carry me through the entire game. Which frame should I get?"

I would tell them get fucking frost inaros and ivara because you can do the whole startchart and solo sorties with them without even using a reactor, like I just did. If they see me using Oberon and asking the build I use or if its good because they see me and want to have fun with them, I would tell them Ive put 5 fucking forma on it to solo sorties and atleast 3 would be needed to compensate how crappy designed his abilities are. But if they like how it plays, they can invest a little bit on him on the side while getting more reliable frames specially in solo settings because otherwise it would mean rely on teammantes and some times they simply sucks. So yeah, he his good if he is decent enought to reach every C rotation and solo what the games trow you. Doing 4 survivals 5 minutes long will not let you get an axi relic, doing a 5 hours one will not let you get shit you could not get otherwise. Can you reach that level with him? yeah, but takes effort and time, and not because he is hard to learn its because its built like shit.
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>>166523460
You should at least have one Sniper anon. Might as well make it a Prime one and not a shitty laser gun that needs you to hold the button like a fucking shitty bow.
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>>166523395

>So even you admit that you wouldn't recommend a shit frame to a new player.

It's hilarious the way you can only win arguments if you get to decide what the other side says.

If someone said "I like playing paladins and shit" I would in fact recommend Oberon to them, then run an ODD or ODS to get them all the parts. It's not like Oberon can't handle the star map or Sorties, so why would I give a shit? As long as they're having fun what else matters at that stage?
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>>166523553
>he is the best at compenstating during a match how much the rest of your team sucks
he's really not though. The best way to compensate is with a cheesy CC/utility frame like Loki/Nova/Rhino. Perma map lockdown carries literally everything
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>>166523705
>people still think Loki is good these days
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>>166521827
>People will tell me if a bubble needs popped instead of sitting there fuming the whole time, right?
Some of them wont that why I ask if anybody need a globe in their point or area when I join a mission, or straight up tell them to mention if they want a globe removed if its getting in the way. If they are not retarded and can communicate, they will talk, but most of the time they will just trow a fit out of nowhere (and sometimes dying right there were the globe once was because they are retarded). They are fucking randoms, take no offense from them if they cant communicate. They are retarded if they know there is a route to prevent something but they decide not to take it even when it, at most, would require them to be polite. But I almost never use globes anyway, unless I want to sit in a corner in an interception mission and let the team carry me.
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Who has the best butt in Warframe?
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>>166523638
"I like playing paladins what frame should I get?"

Now think very carefully. Which of these two responses would you give him?

>1. "Get Oberon, he's a paladin frame."

>2. "Get Oberon, he's a paladin frame. But he's not good at any role relative to other frames, and in sortie-level content he can struggle a lot more than other frames."
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>>166523884
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>>166523638
>Paladin frame
He's
a
fucking
DEER
not a paladin.
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>>166523907
>3. "Don't get Oberon, he's a druid."
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>>166523834
.5/10
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>>166523907

1. Because I have faith in their ability to figure shit out for themselves and don't sperg out if other people don't do everything I think they should do and don't demand they follow Professor Rosa Martin Luther King Junior Parks' Infallible Frame Guide.

You know, just normal "being able to interact with other human beings" shit.
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>>166524000
>post number is my sortie reward
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>>166523907
Trinity with Link is more of a Paladin than Oberon.
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>>166523553
Your post is self-contradictory.
If frame X can solo all the content, then it follows that frame X can also compensate for a shit team. So if frame X can both compensate for shit teams and solo, yet frame Y can supposedly compensate but not solo, then why would you use frame Y?
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>>166523705
Massive CC lets you get away with not being able to heal i deal damage because enemies cant deal damage. Massive damage lets you compesate your lack of CC or heals (if you dont have any) by removing the threat of their pontential damage. Massive heals, invulnerability or protecctions lets you get away with the former. Massive heals wont guarantee you taking control of a point your teammates keep losing, even if they are filled with energy and such, it wont let you heal excavators getting fucked because teammates got a bone bigger that what they can bite. Same applies to the rest. If in the end you can get everysingle shit from the game using it, you dont need to reach those extremes in the first place, and at least you have a margin (albeit small for the most part) to give an edge on what you would have using something else. CC warframe can hold a point on his own so does not need to heal himself nor deal damage? If you can do the same as oberon, soloing excavators with enemies elemental enchancment and everything, and on top of that you can heal, yeah, there is an adventage. If the reason you are healing its because your CC sucks, then you would need the heals at all, but if you can do both (albeit with invest) then there is actually something you can do now that others cant in the same settings.

Again, and ideal team would massive cc, massive damage, and protections. In an uncordinated team, you could have the dream and everybody can also play like shit so it wont help. And again, for the last fucking time, if you still can do EVERYTHING in the game (besides saying something retarded like soloin a raid because you cant) with him, you need nothing else. The warframe works, its just too bad its built like shit so it requires extra effort to do so.
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Is tiberon a gud weapon? Just got a riven from it and I'm deciding if i should go full autismo and put 7 forma in it
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My artemis bow feels weak as shit, what do
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>scan a synthesis target without using abilities, traps, or taking damage while having a hobbled dragon key equipped
>stinger riven
ENDO MY LAIFU
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>>166524718
What mods do you have on your bow?
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>>166524628
it's alright, i think Dex sybaris handles better and everyone gets a potatod one of those free in march.

Tiberon Rivens gonna have massive bonus damage/multishot, like 300% damage or more. Go for it, if you like the gun.

I don't know what's wrong with it.
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>>166524168
>hey I need help what can I do?
>just do whatever xDDDD anything werks!

about as useful as giving a man dying of thirst a map to an oasis
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>>166524843
Well, not bow, but any primary
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>>166524605
CC literally carries everything though, no need for healing at all when enemies can't even hit you (healing in general is shit in this game). And for damage you can just bring a good gun to carry. A single Nova/Frost/Rhino can carry sortie 3 ez.
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>>166524846
Cool. I'll roll it a few times and see if i get lucky.
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>>166523705
>>166524605
>>166525090
>CC can carry anything
In a way yes, but it's rarely the most efficient way to do something.
In defense, CC can even be counterproductive because it slows shit down.
I see a lot of low-mid MR players who think they're "helping" with their CC but all it does is slow down a defense or fuck up my sortie focus farm.
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>>166524843
>>166524910
o-oh, it's affected by the mods on my primary? What kind of mods? I'm using the zarr, but only for the mastery so i have not focused on its mods.
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>you can walk up to your dog or cat in orbiter and press E to pet it

fuck yea
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>>166524591
I undertand where you are coming from but that precisely why I said to get both (I used "and" not "or") just to cover everything. Also, my point was not picking the best but covering the concept of the question wich was being able to go trough the game, saying that its possible with Oberon but requires more effort to do. Once that effort is aplied you can reach the level the original question was asking for. It covers the concept of the question in the end, but while straight up saying that it will require more effort to do so. And how you can approach that problem, too: if you are already set with warframes, weapons a high enought MR to compensate how crappy leveling shit is in this game, and you see joy in the way Oberon plays, go ahead, do it, but I would recommend priotizing what Ive said before if you dont know what you really need. It covers the orginial topic and the other comments show what you can get out of Oberon too, but im not going to retype all that shit. There is no contradiction there because the whole comment works together. Added implications like if I was saying Oberon was better than a Inaros, Ivara and frost combined would have been a contradiction inside the argument.
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>>166525172
that's true, but defense is literally the ONLY mission where CC can be harmful. In every other mission type, survival/excav/intercept, you don't need to kill a lot of shit to complete the mission. Killing things can in fact be counterproductive like in intercepts. This is the main reason why I think DPS frames are overrated.

And CC can still be helpful in defense missions. Not nearly as efficient as a DPS frame like Mesa, but if you have 3 retards on your team CC will definitely carry them.
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>>166525328
dum
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>>166525370
holy fuck do you not understand the concept of paragraphs

I've known middle schoolers more capable of expressing an opinion than you
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>>166525328
Any mod that would work on a generic bow.
So no rivens, and I'm not sure if argon/bladed work.

>>166525395
It can be harmful in survival and to a smaller degree in excav. It's also annoying to anyone trying to farm focus in the mission.
I'd rather shitblast everything in an intercept with Equinox and get some of my focus done while doing missions I had to do anyway.
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>>166524863

>I'll keep putting words in his mouth so I can pretend I'm right!

I'd explain how shit works, show them how shit works, and help them work towards whatever they wanted to do.

If they decide they want to specialise in the Goatman, watch me give zero fucks. I think they;ll see for themselves that other frames can do things better but there's no reason to go REEEE YOU NEED TO HAVE A 5-FORMA MESA INSTEAD REEEE when their MR is too low to access much and they're going to need to grind a bunch of low-level shit to get to more effective gear.

It's your frame guide and "lol, get a Tigris P/Galatine P" shit that is giving the man dying of thirst a map. That shit doesn't actually help, but of course you don't understand this because haha, what are game mechanics again?
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>>166525563
CC isn't harmful in survival or excavation, it takes very little killing to survive or to get power cells.

CC does hurt focus farming, and in fact I also like to use sorties to farm focus (since I can't be assed to play the game any other time), but I think very few people use sorties to focus farm, and that shouldn't be the standard for gauging effectiveness.
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>>166525524

And I know newborns with a better grasp on how to play the game than you.
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>>166522046
>Excavation without bubble
Sortie3 with improved enemies says hello
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>>166525563
Is there a way to check the stats of my artemis bow? Like puncture impact and slash.
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>>166525757
>If they decide they want to specialise in the Goatman
now who's putting words in each other's mouth

If someone wants to play Oberon, then let him have at it. Fun is the most important part of any videogame, and it doesn't bother me that he's enjoying a frame I dislike.

HOWEVER, before someone wants to invest in Oberon, he should know that Oberon is a shitty frame relative to other frames in the game, and struggles significantly more in higher-level missions. This is my entire point. That's the purpose of the frame guide. Imagine spending plat/slots/resources on a frame only to find out it's shit. What a terrible feeling.
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>>166525090
That does not stop you from using a method that you want to use to reach that result, wich is my point since I started talking. A new player might not want get a warframe and stick to it while waiting to forma it 5 times while he is still using a fucking mk1-braton, but that does not stop anybody who think playing Oberon is fun to try and use it at any given time. And rng with mods will fuck you up more than any CC lacking frame can, really, and im not trying to exagerate how prioritizing Oberon its not a big deal because it would be and Ive said so myself, but at the beginning of the game you really dont need much at all. If someone tries to use Oberon because they have fun with it while knowing the investing it needs to do well, its up to them and I still would suggest against it but that does not prevent the warframe itself from covering the original topic: you can in fact, complete everything with him, it does not mather if you want to do it from earth with your mk1-paris or if you want him for a chance of phase or for fun while you are scrapping weapons everywhere just to fill MR. It can do what you want it to do, it just requires time and effort.

>>166525172
Yes, but there is a difference when you had productivity in the scene. You might take thousand hours to finish a defense mission while everybody is going 0.000000001 mph but that does not prevent you from actually beating the mission. Let alone if you have fun doing it, but thats a whole other story, but I undertand where you are comming from with the slow everything down part, specially in group matches or where you can compesate lack of CC with crapton of damage, but I think you are inside a whole different topic there..
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>>166525915
>excavation sortie
just trigger it and leave
yeah you'll have to deal with level 350 enemies but still
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>>166526037
see>>166525986

If someone likes Oberon that's fine, but he should know Oberon is a bad frame beforehand.

It's all about giving more information to players so they can make better choices. That's the entire purpose of the tier list/frame guide.
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>>166526052
+10 cryotic
+15 cryotic
+5 cryotic
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>>166525524
Funny how you are saying that after so many comments from you talking shit about how you notice people focusing on irrelevant things while not posting proofs yet you dont point anything out yourself. You are just confirmed to be lanced jack kind of shitposting. I was retarded for taking you seriously, but now Im glad that I figured that out. You are just a troll or straight up retarded. If you are actually tq and its true you are going to med school: try to not be the cause of an innoncent person's death, do the world a favor and actually shoot yourself.
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>post a listing on the market
>get a message: "Hey I'm 20 plat short can i buy your item and throw in some prime parts?"
FUuuck OOOFFFF PooorFAGS
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>>166525964
The wiki says it has a 1.5x multiplier (before factoring in power str) which wfbuilder doesn't seem to factor in.
I think you just take the 160 base damage (22.40/128.00/9.60), multiply by 1.5, multiply by power str, and then factor in whatever elementals you have.
Then do crit calculations, base is 25% 2x.
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>>166526275
The reality of TQ possibly being in a medical position has just dawned on me.
Oh lord that's actually kind of frightening
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Say something good about Oberon.
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>>166526284
Tbh we could use something like notes to your listings. Even with 10 char limit. 10 plat is 10 plat
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>>166526275
it's not irrelevant though. Lumping everything into a single massive paragraph strains the eyes and delays comprehension. It makes the post a pain in the ass to read and fuck it's not even worth the effort

Irrelevant shit is like focusing on grammar. Bad spelling/grammar has little impact on comprehension, because our brains are quick enough to adjust for it. Not so with paragraphs.
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>>166525986

>"this is the purpose of the frame guide"
3 seconds later
>"hey guys TQ here, reminder to follow the frame guide and my builds exclusively, if you play Oberon or do anything for fun rather than efficiency you are doing it WRONG and are a literal retard.

Pick one you incontinent shit-gremlin.
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>>166526461
He's a great waste of space
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>>166526512
>Lumping everything into a single massive paragraph strains the eyes and delays comprehension.
No? None of his paragraphs are especially large and if you have difficulty comprehending them you should probably be institutionalized.
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>>166526461
It's a good source of -20 plat for a slot and 6k mr.
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>>166526461
his wife is fun
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Question: Dust (50%)+Razorwing = 75% evasion or?
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>>166526461
there are some pretty strong sleeks with oberon and a few frame combination to boost it. too bad that mindset of "if it doesn't kill lvl 9999 X after a single blink its shit"
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>>166526456

As I said before

>Prep the patient for an appendectomy

>But Doctor TQ, the patient's reported symptoms and test results show they have meningitis, an appendectomy won't help

>No, I doctor Theodore Quentin Rosa Martin Luther King Junior Parks know better!

>But an app-

>GRAAAAH! YOU LITERAL RETARD! POST YOUR FRAME ARSENAL, MOD LIST, AND ENDO COUNT! OTHERWISE ADMIT YOU KNOW NOTHING AND WALK AWAY! FUCKING NURSES, THINKING THEY EVEN DESERVE TO BREATHE THE SAME AIR AS ME!

This is how we get anti-vaxxers.

O course, this assumes TQ isn't lying out the ass to make himself appear smarter than he actually is.
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>>166526969
Do you have the NINE.THOUSAND.ENDOS version? that one crack me up so good.
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>bored with everything else atm
>decide to check out Warframe
>Valkyr Prime

HAPPENED

they didnt unnerf her did they
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>>166526969
Considering he barely got in, he'll probably flunk out anyway. I wouldn't trust Dr. Parks to schedule my next appointment let alone do any actual medical work.
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>>166500943
What frame is that?
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>>166526139
And I said before you dont need fucking much at all to make him works, and what is the point on jumping into arguments of people saying that Oberon can be good in the game if you ignore fucking completely the context in wich people are talking in. And dont go full retarded on saying that the topis was all about the tier list from the first place becuase when people talk about anything in the game it does not come from you very limited point of view. You go out of your way to mention how Oberonposter are literaly tier hater like if every single person defending Oberon in any meaningfull way would be talking about that stupid list thay only you care about. Not because you can thinkg about anything outside of the context of that stupid tier list means that everyone else is the same, is fucking basinc comprehension and I truly hope that tq retards does not get into med school because its going to end up killing someone doing something stupid for keeping his head inside his ass.

>>166526512
Just like even when it comes with downside using CC for survivales cant not be a big deal and let you do just fine, too? Try to see how those statements correlate wich eachother. If in the end you can undestard how something happens and can work with, just fucking do so and dont jump into conversation cherrypicking and isolating problems your brain is not quick enough for. I truly hope you are not tq, and I truly hope he does not get into med school, if you are him, you seriously have mental problems. Hopefully someone in that school you are going to will catch up quickly enought.
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>>166527181
The nerf makes no difference if you can keep up hysteria 24/7.
You're just one cheap set of arcane energize away from that :^)
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>Tomato

Thanks, DE.

Atleast the Interception mission was fun.
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>>166527181
>they didnt unnerf her did they
they didn't, it's still fairly useable
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>>166526705
https://strainindex.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/plain-paragraph-length/
Long paragraphs hinder understanding, this is fact, assuming people even bother reading once they see the massive wall of text.

>>166526547
I've never said that efficiency is more important than fun. The purpose of the frame guide is to tell you what's effective. If you want to play your special snowflake builds and have fun, go ahead. But don't pretend it's good and encourage other players to try your shitty builds.
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>>166527301
I have trouble keeping it up even with an energize set on the second any energy drain bullshit starts happening or the spawns dry up because ?????????
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>>166526969
I've worked with some extremely stupid doctors. I don't know how any of them got their jobs, or how any of them KEEP their jobs.

TQ-style idiocy wouldn't even be that out of place. A lot of doctors stubbornly refuse to admit they got something wrong, and the patient suffers for it.
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>>166527275
>walls of text
yeah not even going to bother. I've used up my supply of fucks on your last few dumb posts. Even when I explicitly tell you how to post better you ignore it.
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>>166527181
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>>166526969
alright that's pretty funny

I scored top 96% tho
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>>166527152

I didn't screen cap it but I actually fucked that bit up any way.

TQ is inordinately proud of his NINE HUNDRED THOUSAND ENDO :^) and thinks it makes him an expert.
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>>166527478
Point out the dumb parts, point out when you justify a paragraph being too long even when other person already said they did not counted them as too long. Grab everysingle source you can find about texts and use to justify how stupid you are to follow a simple topic, you will backed by sources and everything! Its not you just being dumb, I promise! Also, if you really think any of those paragraphs are too long, good luck in the med school, you will need it, not as much as the other students and the personal there, but you will some of that.

Here is a spaced paragaph to let your quick mind understand what is happening.

You are retarded
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>>166528074
now that wasn't so hard anon was it
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>Try to play Zephyr
>she's floaty as fuck
Really annoying.
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>>166527628

>habitual liar and proven idiot claims to be genius to bolster failing online cred, news at 11

>>166527181

All that really changed was that Hysteria isn't insanely easy to keep up 24/7 now. It's like 23.5/7 instead. She's still a blender with legs.
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>doing mission
>long noodle airskating corpus men appear
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>>166528239
>>166527181
Valkyr got nerfed?
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>>166528291
Yes
A frame that has almost no use in organized squads who had only one real niche got that niche nerfed.
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>>166528239
Always a healthy reminder for everyone here to not take anything that TQ says seriously. None of it.
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>>166528210
YOU HAVE SEEN NOTHING YET
MAX MAGLEV
MAX CUNNING DRIFT
MAX ENDURANCE DRIFT
and any other mod that adds things similar.
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>>166528289
Beware the noodlemen they silence your shit.
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>>166528291

They made Hysteria a toggle instead of flat duration.

This made a lot of Valkyr players mad, because they had to change one mod on their builds and were marginally less blender-mode than they had been before. It was declared that she had been nerfed into oblivion, and such was carved into the great stone tablets of wisdom, for ever and ever amen.
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>>166528398
the worst part of posts like these is that people will actually think building RD Loki, power strength Mesa, slovva, tank/dps Chroma, etc. are bad

fuck off
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Which frame would you make your wife? My pick would be Nezha
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>>166528527
Biiiiite my assss~
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>>166528549
Nezha is male
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>>166528393
>>166528492
>Atlas landslide bit the dust
>Valkyr bit the dust
Is Wukong the last bastion of meme melee?
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>>166528210

Stick with her, you will learn to use it to your advantage. Her 2 will get you down quickly if need be.
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>>166528169
You tell me, and after reading in this very thread that other people pointed out they had no trouble doing something you could force yourself to do while never getting the concept of the topics >you< got and get yourself into, remember that not only you are retarded, you were always the first one on saying people dodge arguments.

You might be resistant to being called retarded already, specially if you think you can justify your lack of comprehension and cherrypicked justifications to be the one dodging a topic even when proven wrong in this very thread, but let me tell even if you dont want to accept my words or you take no offense in being called stupid and retarded, straight up mentally challenged, I hope someone in that school will be able to notice it soon enought before you actually end up being responsable for another living human's life, because I would even trust a dead body to you, you are retarded.

Mandatory spaced paragraph for the special snowflake who cant follow paragraph that are not even 2000 characters long.

Again, good luck in medschool. Too bad everybody else are the ones who will need it more.
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>>166528492
u wot m8
It was always a toggle at least as far as I can remember.
What they changed is that hysteria energy drain goes up the longer you have it on (up to a cap). It's still usable with energize but if you've got a set of energize you've probably got a better frame.

>>166528669
Slecta+maiming strike+naramon is the new memelee.
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Is there a more accurate simulation of rape than being a noob singled out by an isolater bursa?
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>>166528289
Look out for the ones with the angstrum
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>>166528748
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>>166528812
>tfw u will never fuck a bursa's tight butthoel
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>>166528812
Shield lancers
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>>166529000
>a bursa will never sit on your face
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>>166528492
you missed the part where some time after it became a toggle they nerfed the shit out of the scaling and made it rise exponentially over time, but efficiency was counted for base and total cost so it also scaled exponentially (beyond the normal +/- 75% base cost cap) which made it manageable even at max rampup if you hit the cost floor but made above-base-cost builds suck even worse, and THEN they removed that aspect so channeling cost was again capped to 25% or 175% of base and then ramped up so it sucks energy like a motherfucker now even in the best case scenario (and doesn't suck as much in the worst)
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>>166528839

Nigga, I have to look out myself with the Angstrum.
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>>166528812
You could be in a interception mission where all the others leave. I kind of want to see something like that happening now, I wonder how we would feel.
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>>166529071
>>166529000
>>166528812
someone post THE bursa picture

you know the one.
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>>166529220
We also need the fapfic of the Nyx raping the bursa
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>>166528773

>It was always a toggle at least as far as I can remember.

Then you can't remember very far back because the staple build until a bit over a year ago was to stack duration and strength to stay in a duration-based Hysteria for a minute or more at a time.

>>166528812

Watching MR4 players try to handle Sorties until that got locked behind War Within was right up there.
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>>166529071
>a bursa will never accidentally crush your frontal lobe while you eat out its mechanical replacement for genitalia
why even live?
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>>166529368
>a bursa will never forcibly penetrate your anus with its gun
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>>166529073

>t. Valkyr player mad he had to change one mod

Also it was the other way around, they fucked the formula for Hysteria up so it was draining energy at double the intended rate and fixed it once enough players complained.
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>>166529084
>tfw Vauban
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>>166529430
>a bursa will never shoot your anus as it ejaculates
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>>166528748
For what it's worth, since TQ refuses to give you an actual response,
well said.
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>>166529512
>a bursa will never tie you down with its tether balls while it rides your dick
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>>166529304
>tfw trying to kill a basic grineer lancer with my latron prime and doing jack shit to it
Even worse is I was a veteran of two years who still didn't understand how to mod, none of my weapons could scratch a level 100.
Now I blaze through that shit by myself.
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>>166529606
>bursa will never crush your pelvis with it s shield-arms as it writhes in orgasmic pleasure
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>>166529714
>a bursa will never choke you out with its thighs
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>>166529471
incorrect, I only dabbled with valk in my early shitter days because muh invincibility (and later because you could become an invisible invulnerable redcritting machine before naramon got nerfed) but liked to keep up with what mechanical changes they were making and what sort of precedents it might follow or set

also it was NOT the other way around, it was not that it was draining energy at double the rate but instead that it was applying the cost modifier from efficiency and duration twice (on base and total after time-based ramp-up) for a squared effect in either direction, and they branded the change of that behavior as a "buff" (when it only helped if you had a cost modifier higher than 100% for some idiotic reason)
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>>166529617
Didn't you took sometime off?
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>>166529774
>a bursa will never step on your balls and force you to ejaculate
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>>166528748
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>>166528748
Absolutely savage.
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>>166529837
>a bursa will never play lewd videos on its back console while you rail it from behind
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throw out some Hydroid buff ideas.
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>>166529956
hydroid harka skin
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wow, bump limit threads really aren't moderated
might as well just post actual hentai
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>>166529887
>you will never affectionately caress the back console and get a bursa horny to orgasm from the slightest touch
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>>166529836
Yeah, after that sortie I realized how far in the past I was, my Amphis was useless, my Latron had bad mods and my akstilettos had a prime varient out. Spend the next month buying things like blood rush and grinding new primes.
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>>166529980
Post THE bursa picture.
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>>166530007
>a bursa will never leak hydraulic fluids on you while it writhes in pleasure
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I just want to know if the new invasion rolling out has something worthwhile that will be gone when I wake up
Something's fucked with the adjustments DE made
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>>166530135
>a bursa will never swallow your cum obediently like a crack whore who's desperate for another dose
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>>166530218
>a bursa will never shakily stagger away after you jackhammer it
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>>166530340
>>166530340
>>166530340
>>166530340

new ded
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>>166530218
That's it im reporting all you /d/egenerates and messaging one of the janitors i know.
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>>166530403
tq you're not allowed to use cute gifs anymore
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>>166530403
but im behind 7 proxies :^)
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>>166529956

Improve targeting on his 1, allow his 4 tentacles to move around within the cast radius to seek out enemies, increase Armour rating.
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>>166530343
>a bursa will never collapse under its own weight and onto your cock for another round accidentally
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>>166529956
Maybe let his 2 be more controllable. Let it gather enemies up like a tidal wave so that
when your ability is done you can dump them all into a nice little spot and then dowhatyouwill with your prey.

>>166530471
Also yes, for fucks sake he looks so bulky for having such little armor.
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