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>>166090812

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where everybody at

add this in the OP someplace, next time

http://imgur.com/a/8GS6r

It seems our spontaneous breath of life has been finally spent

>>166422031
the radiant update should come in early febuarary right?

>>166422031
this general is DAZED, REELING, ABOUT TO BREAK

>>166422496
Sure
Maybe they can also make the late game less shit

What about a class that draws his power from his enemies? Like he'd only have one ability, for example Siphon Essence, that would grant him a new, temporary ability (for that mission) based on the enemy he used it on. This would mean that every single enemy would give him a different skill but not all of them are available in every dungeon.

When acquiring a skill it would be locked in place for the remainder of that mission, so you have to pick and choose what you want or what's available to you depending on rng.

>>166423039
i think the main problem with lategame is taht you get to it way too fast if you play even halfway decent, neting you a situation where RNG just takes over since the enemy dmgrange exnocmpasses your dudes entire unupgraded healthbar. when you have fully upgraded huys, champ runs become a LOT less dangerous, at which point it just becomes boring.

They could make hero lvlup optional: you can choose to leave a dude at certain levels at the cost of any further xp is lost, unless you decide to advance his lvl.

AS for the boredom teh new enemies will help, but it think teh game should have a way to promote/reward using diferent party combinations to kick player out of his comfort zone, and discover/try new things.
My favorite part was trying to make diferent partys work while trying to keep everyone at the same level.

>>166424539
I think there's an easier way to fix the late game
Instead of giving all enemies stupid amounts of health prot and damage
Make themdo something different from what they did on the other two ranks
You know
Like how they did it on veteran

>>166424901
If they give enemies new moves, then at that point i would prefer if they were new enemies.
When you get to that point, you got figured out an enemies moveset, and them busting out new moves will get ppl off guard, for quite a while, as they sure as fuck wont remeber it for the next few encounters.

In fact, i dont remeber any new moves on the same enemies form easy to veteran.

>>166425579
Yeah forget what i said i suck cocks, i guess is more added effects like mushroom men inflicting blight and fish dragging the back liners forward
Veteran does add new enemies i guess

>>166424901
>stupid amounts of health prot and damage

I just did my first champions run. Kinda lost the will to live and I didn't even jump right in I was mostly upgraded with one level 5. Just slowed down so damn much, even on a short run I can't imagine doing this for 24+ more characters.

Its been so long since I touched my level 5s and 6s I'm not even attached to them anymore, forgot they existed, been slowly managing up the back groups, trying to not over level. Starting to have major regrets here.

>>166425829
are there spiders in easy?
They get fucking lethal on vet and harder

>>166426000
I'm pretty sure they are
Out of the top of my head, non easy enemies are the fat skeleton, the spear skeleton, the weald witch, the weald giant, the snab crab, the spear pig and the jobber worm(i think)

>>166422031
Having the link to this thread in the last thread would have helped.
>>166426000
Yes there are spiders on the easy dungeons. Some people still find them to be difficult.

>>166425954
what party were you using? I didnt notice such a big effect, if any. assuming you had both weapon and skills maxed.

At champ, its assumed you have some powerful trinkets which makes things faster, so enemies are compensated. Still, i remeber being able to kill at least 1 backline on turn 1 most of the time, while controlling the front.

Radiant Vita patch when

>>166427063
After it's been out on PC for testing.

>>166426000
How do people have so much trouble with spiders? I am always relieved when I run into them because they're a pretty easy encounter and have practically no HP. They're only dangerous if you leave them for too long and have an entire party of slow characters. With a proper party encounters should not last more than 2 rounds or so.

>>166429908
"They're only dangerous if you leave them for too long"

With their insane dodge stats, that is sadly beyond your control most of the times, couple that with ther high speeds, their marks, extra dmg to marked, their tendency to attack the same guy, marked or not, stuns and blights, they can just delete one of your guys if you dont kill 2 of them on the first round of combat.
And sicne their 13hp is in the range where 1 hit wont necerecairly be enough, AND they have dodge out the ASS, there is literealy nothing you can do other than roll the dice that either you wipe them without taking dmg, or they just burst one of yours befoer you can even act.

That is why they are bullshit: they are RNG made manifest. 1 out of 5 encounters, no matter what you have, no matter what you do, they WILL kill one guy. I beaten the game couple of times, and other than bosses, i only lost nigas to fucking spiders.

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post favorite party combos

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Need help with this one. Where it is?

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>>166433369

>>166433584
It was bottom thx anyway

>>166420091
when the guide says "don't waste money on people with less than 50% stress", does it mean 50 stress or 100 stress?

Would a Witch class fit into the game? I just kinda want another magic class. I really love the Occultist and think a witch could be a cool fit (witch trials and whatnot except now witches could be powerful allies against all this OTHERWORDLY CORRUPTION).

Maybe she could draw her powers from a source of natural magic whereas the Occultist taps into exotic magic. Healer? Damage? Support? Won't travel with religious classes?

>>166424901
>Instead of giving all enemies stupid amounts of health prot and damage

The game in early access once had the player characters actually be effective at things. Trinkets weren't complete shit loaded with penalties, and enemies didn't have retarded amounts of damage reduction.

Then the dev's deemed that "Fun" and so all of that went away in the name of beating their dicks with a hammer to the idea of someone fighting multiple enemies with like 50%+ DR.

>>166431183
You're blowing it out of proportion by a long shot. There are monsters both alone an in groups that hit harder, have higher dodge, higher speed and higher HP. Spiders can be hard and I have lost a couple heroes to them, but by no means is it even remotely true that you will lose a guy 1 outta 5 times. You are more than likely just having shit RNG with them or are being dramatic because you have trouble with them and get emotional about it.

>>166435056
50 stress. It's probably from back in the day when 100 was the max and they just forgot to change it.

>>166435898
Has anyone made a mod that pretty much retcons all this shit?

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so what's a way to cheese the brigand 16 pounder fight? I know that weakening curse spam works on the prophet and other huge damage dealing bosses, but since it's considered an endurance boss, I'm pretty sure that cheese strat won't work

i only have 1000 gold left what do

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Threadly reminder that over-confidence is a slow and insidious killer.

>>166438262
Hire nothing but level 0's to do suicide runs for piles of gold in short-level dungeons with no provisions.
Alternatively, get four antiquarians together to do some 'backyard camping' trips in medium dungeons where they can camp, find trinkets, then retreat the mission. You can do this over and over and over again. The only loss they'll suffer is stress, and that stress will be healed as soon as they camp again. Just make sure to stock a little food to keep them from losing their shit too much.

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>>166435898
>Throwing a hissy fit instead of being constructive about your game's flaws

>>166437961
4x Houndmaster
Bark woof the Fuseman and then woof whittle the cannon

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Some of you guys are alright. Dont go to the hamlet tomorrow.

>>166440913
>Vvulf makes a twitter post

>>166435898
>EA nostalgia
You mean back when the Hellion was by far the best frontliner, Leper was completely useless, DOTs were absolute garbage, AOE attacks destroyed everything, some trinkets were completely useless while others were OP and could be stacked, you could cheese any encounter by hammering the frontline and stun spamming the back until they were up front and harmless, you couldn't exchange heirlooms and you could only get guarantees of certain ones by doing specific dungeons, camping skills were terrible and a chore, etc? Man I sure miss all those things.

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>People actually think PROT was a bad addition to the game
What Bizzaro universe have I been teleported to?

>>166435919
Thing is, if i get shit RNG with any other mobs, i can deal with it, i have tools, i get chances to recover, and can make perparations beforehand to preapare for the worst. With spiders, none of it works.

If you get shit rng with spiders, someone dies, and there is nothing you can do about it.
>arblest, occultist, houndmaster, bh, all have the damage to 1 shot spiders even without marks, or at least stun/debuff them
>have suprise trinket and campbuff
>suprise spiders
>only 1 attack connects, leaves it for 1 hp
>they go 8 (eight) times before i get to do anything more
>all 8, (except a stun on my fastest guy or the healer) lands on a single on of my guys, stacking 10+blight on him

This happned multiple times. They dont stress you, they dont wither you down, they dont deal spike damages in the middle of the fight with crits, they flat out delete one of your guys.

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>>166438262
gipsy it up nigga

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>>166440913
Kek

>>166442558
If that happens to you so often then wouldn't it be a better idea to just run from the fight once you missed most of your attacks?

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I dont mind prot.
High dodge enemies need to fucking go though.
They are usually the most obnoxious pieces of shit too.

>>166442317
Couldn't tell ya m8. There are only a few encounters in all 5 dungeons where you can run into multiple enemies with 40% or more prot and if you're bringing DOT units into dungeons with those, and you should be because that is one of the intended counter measures to Protection, then it's almost never a big deal.

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>>166444897
>When you run into multiple Madmen in a single Dungeon and they just keep dodging your attacks

>>166442317
The same universe where people bitched after corpses were introduced because they couldn't pull their frontline freight train tactics anymore.

Here's an idea for a character
Survivalist
He'd be an utility character similar to antiquarian but his abilities would focus on scouting and food.
He has a very high trap disarm chance and increases party scouting chance by 20%

His combat abilities would focus on marking, debuffing and buffing with lower than average damage.
Camping abilities for him would be just buffs with no stress heals, perhaps an ability to refund camping at the cost of half the time?

Statwise he'd be weak, incredibly weak with low hp and dodge he'd go down to death's door in just a single crit from a strong enough monster.
But on the other hand he'd be pretty accurate and have a good crit chance.

Appearance wise he'd look like a noble in very ragged clothes, giving him kind of a hobo look. He'd also have an eagle on his shoulder that would make up most of his attacks.

What do you think of my idea? I kinda made it in a hurry so my grammar and ideas arent perfect but all kinds of criticism is welcome.

>>166446295
So pretty much the girl teaching camping skills at the hamlet, being useful for once ?

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>>166446295
I like the idea, resonates a lot like a more support oriented houndmaster

>>166444857
you know?
I forgot you can do that, since i never had the need for it.

Anyone play the pitch black mod? I'm a scared pleb that only grinds out dungeons in the Ruins, but I do want to form teams for other dungeons as well. Any particular team composition I should be playing specifically?

>>166447510
Hey hey hey, I need that snuffbox to save the day.

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>tfw have a leper with natural swing
>tfw load him up with accuracy trinkets
>get ready to beat the final boss of the swine prince
>all my dudes get stressed as fuck by the stupid crit drummers
>on the plus side, Leperbro gets Rabies
>manage to keep slamming through walls, but some bad rolls kills off my vestal
>I decide to keep going using crusader and the leper's natural heal to keep everyone going
>plague doctor falls next because of shitty crits
>It's just my crusader and Leper left
>We make it to the swine king, I'm praying to RNJesus
>Crusader's will is tested...
HOPELESS
>start cursing profusely, he starts stressing out my leper and passing turns
>try to escape, fail, leper reaches the breaking point
ANGER IS POWER. USE IT.
>my fucking face for the next two turns as that fat pig faggot is double crit.

>>166429908
A bad roll and spiders can fuck you pretty hard. On average, they're cake, but I've never seen anyone blow up as fast as they do to spiders.

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>managed to kill the prophet, the hag and the collector
Collector's 2nd appearance was in the hallway right before prophet
I'm scared
These runs are going better than I thought but how fucking badly are things gonna get.

Been trying to prioritize on getting more seasoned adventurers in case shit gets bad

>>166452361
Fair enough.

>>166449964
>since i have never had the need for it
>never

You needed and didnt knew it.

>>166451738
>my leper lad gets clusterfucked by the cove
Fucking Cove. You ruin everything, don't you? Even legendary heroes like that bastard. I hope I get him back one day.

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>mfw GR has love interest AND deviant tastes

>>166462113
I had a Vestal like that. I almost didn't wanna cure her.

>>166463134
>always using crusader on party with her
>"dunno, maybe she will need some stress heal, can't do it in town"
>bitch doesnt even get hit
>everyone needing ocasional stress heal during mission
>she finally got a fucking skull in the face from ghoul
>crit and oneshot a gargoyle
>almost heal all the stress damage

She is a keeper.

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>finally beat the game
>managed to do it on Strict Mode, didn't even know there were difficulty settings you could change
>brought Reynauld and Dismas to the final dungeon
>apparently sped through the game since the achievement for finishing the game under 99 weeks popped up

That was a nice experience. Lighting the Way is the hardest Darkest Dungeon.

Shame that the modpack with a bunch of new classes is apparently outdated.

>>166445416
Corpses are still stupid.

Prot alone was enough to shift the tactics so that you can choose between trying to snipe squishies quick, or removing the prot'd tank guy in the front, but waste more time.

The whole corpse cleaning shit is just stupid.

>>166464138
Corpses came before Protection and are an optional feature due to bitching. I'd hazard a guess that part of why they included Protection was to keep the tactics for people who didn't like playing with corpses.

>>166463996
>spoiler
I think the majority of players agree with you.

>>166464473
I totally forgot the order they came in.

But prot really does do everything corpses were meant to, and does it much more elegantly (and, I can't believe I'm saying this, in a less immersion ruining way, for me).

>>166464138
You can use corpses to fuck with the enemies' attacks
I know it isn't much but it does add something to the game prot doesn't

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>>166444897
>>166445145
Yell at them.

>>166466150
Don't you know anon?
They can also dodge sound

>>166466234
From my experience they only dodge Bellow once in a blue moon, and I don't have any +acc on my MaA.

>>166464138
>>166465671
I personally find corpses to be really helpful with keeping all of my party members useful as a fight goes on. They allow me the ability to let certain characters focus on jobs without having to worry about keeping their usefulness to the current encounter, and even allows for expansion on it. Back in EA I could not count the amount of times my backliners would eventually become vestigial to the fight after a few rounds and I'd be forced to spam a support move or shuffle them with another member and potentially fuck up usefulness they had. Now with corpses, there's an option not only to always keep your party members useful, but to allow for party members to do things they might not have been able to without them. Just as an example that comes to mind: If I'm fighting a Pelagic Champion without corpses on and I have an Arbalest without Blindfire or Bola equipped, she would be forced to spam heals or mark the entire time, but if I thought a step further and had my Bounty Hunter or Occultist pull something up to the front row before killing it, the Champion is now in second position and vulnerable to the Arbalest's main attack as well. This isn't to say Corpses always make the game easier or that anyone has to agree they're a good mechanic because I like it, but I figured I'd share my experiences.

>>166466234
It's only fair if we can dodge sound attacks as well. I just imagine that they managed to cover their ears in time.

>>166444897
The only thing I hate about dodge is that the stuff to counter it (Vestal, Occultist, and Arbalest's dodge debuffs) are usually lower in accuracy themselves along with said targets having higher than normal debuff resist. It'd be nice if dodge debuffs were easier to apply to these enemies.

The Man-at-arms would be a great example of a character that on paper looks like he'd negate a lot of the evasion of dog packs, but in practice his debuff chance is too low to overcome the resistance of his targets, who often evade on top of that. RH should probably increase the amount debuffed if they want to go that route so that at least when it does connect with a target, you get a lot more benefit from it.

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>>166466150
10 millenia on ms paint

>>166445016
>Bring Houndmaster
>Shave off 30% prot every time he whistles at someone.
>Bounty Hunter deletes the target next turn.

>>166458878
>Look at graveyard.
>One vestal, six lepers, nothing else.
>One Leper has died three times, having resurrected twice.

What is it with Lepers, enemies just seem to be drawn to fucking them over?

>>166466537
Sure, and to add to that, corpses that do stuff (or that stuff is done to) are also quite fun. I just think similar emergent gameplay could have been done without them by tweaking variables and the like.

>>166466992
I think this pretty much sums up what is wrong with the late game

>>166463996
I was really worried about everyone talking about it being the hardest, but I think the shambler gave me the most trouble, maybe because I wasn't entirely sure what to expect. The Templars just got shuffled around to bad positions and stunned over and over again when I fought them, so all they did was their weak Torment attack or cast revelation on characters with trinkets.

The shuffling horror though kept shuffling my guys around, true to his name, and I couldn't get damage under control while leaving the cultist priest up. It seemed like my healer would always wind up in the wrong position to heal.

>NG+
>Bring lvl 5 Dimas on a short trip to the ruins
>gets beaten to death's door multiple times
>red plague, the worries
>at the end is 25 stress away from a heart attack

Sometimes RNGesus is a fucktard. Spooby Skellington survives the last attack with 1 HP just to crit a tempting goblet on poor Dimas.

Does that faggot caretaker go immediately to whatever stress relief activity your afflicted character is limited to?

Holy shit, I just had a Ghoul and two wine skeletons show up, the ghoul howled every turn and the skeletons kept throwing wine at me. I went from ~10 stress to three afflicted heroes before I could get rid of them all.

I guess I should bring movement skills or ranged attacks.

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>>166468469
>remembering pre-nerf Howl

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>>166468898
>pre-nerf stress attacks in general

>>166469068
what was wrong with it before?

>>166468386
Only when you don't want him to.
>>166469401
Way back in the day stress attacks like Tempting Goblet and Howl did a fair bit of physical damage and 20-25 stress damage without a crit even on the easiest dungeons.

>>166467029
saved, cheers anon

>20 Weeks since Dismas, my only highwayman, died
>22 since my last BH died.
>Finally get them on caravan
>lvl 2 and 1 respectively
>remove two level 3s to make room
>everyone else is level 3+ except for 1 fucking jester, which is my only jester

I think I'm going to remove those level limits now. I havent seen an abom off the caravan in I don't know how long

>>166470780
Bring them to some short adventurer mission with your guys. And someone to protect them.

>>166468469
>not having someone to stun, knockback, pull or nuke at distance

So, you rush every frontliner(which usually have high PROT) until you get to hit the annoying guys? At least use an jester or houndmaster for stress heal(btw, they can hit distant enemies)

>>166468898
>>166469068
Kill me that was shit tier stuff. Glad they changed it since heart attacks were implemented.

>>166471109
Depends on my part composition. Sometimes, I do run the frontline freight train, sometimes I don't. Depends on my mood.

This time in particular, I was running Vestal/Vestal/Leper/Crusader. It's a solid comp until you run in to a tank in ranks 1+2, unless your're packing a move trinket on the leper to move someone back with purge. I was under the impression my damage was so ludicrously high with both characters I could just blow away enemy groups before problems.

I found some club skeletons afterwards though and used them to drag my stress back down to zero, chain stunning and intimidating them until everyone was fine again. If nothing else, it's a good party to prolong fights with since nothing will really be able to get through two and a half healers.

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>Giant Ectoplasm does Cytokinesis at the last moment
>dies next turn
>Ecotoplasm dodges every attack on that turn
>ECTOPLASMIC PROFUSION
>Cytokinesis

>>166473339
God, don't remind me of that shit. Seems like every time I try a low damage party in the weald, every slime fight turns in to a 15 minute slog.

The only nice thing is they're not really that strong, just tough enough to keep multiplying and wearing you down.

>>166473339
This is my true fear every time I visit the Weald.

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>finally do 16 Pounder
>Fusilier crits the party four times in a row
>Vestal goes Paranoid

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>>166474251
Well the Matchman just dodged Iron Swan and the Arbalest hit him for 15 out of 16 hp.

>>166474532
>not running 4xHoundmaster for bosses

>>166474532
BOOM

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>>166474532
Can they still do it?

>>166474813
How mch do you value the time and money you investe in these people?

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>>166474813
Now they have to win.

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>>166474912

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>>166475002
hmm

>>166475002
that pic is just perfect

>>166475002
The Cannon really shouldn't have any Dodge chance. Even the pot can't dodge you.

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>>166474912
>tfw Bounty Hunter will never slap you around

>>166475002
GG mane

for the achievement, reynauld and dismis must be in the party that kill the last boss ?

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Hey, I just assembled a crew for a lvl 3 mission and when I added the last hero (Occultist), I got his label saying "pragmatic" over my hero bar.

What did they mean by this?

>>166478375
Some party compositions are given names
This names indicates that they have the amazing addition to absolutely nothing different from other nameless compositions

>>166435898
You are wrong. Trinkets have been buffed since EA.
Besides that, back before the corpse&hound update the game was so easy you didn't even have to prepare at all to do 0 light runs.

>>166477805
Yes

>>166477805
They also must be the ones that live

>>166469652
>>166469401
Also, aoe attacks critted for the entire area, so if the ghoul rolled a crit howl, that was like 40 stress to the entire party.

>>166478375
why would an occultist be pragmatic though

I always play pretending that my crusaders are idealists so I can't see them being that pragmatic either.

>>166480640
Why wouldn't he be? He seems well educated, he seeks the truth and interacts with higher beings than himself.

>>166479362
Really? I was planning on sacrificing them because I thought it'd be a poetic, destined end to them. Glad I haven't done that yet.

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QUICK /dadg/,

should I abort?
No firewood left, no more food, haven't seen the collector YET, everybody is stressing out... but fuck, it's only ONE MORE BOSS BATTLE (I hope), right?

>>166486581
Abort.

>>166486581
You get an achievement if you're victorious...

>>166486581
You fucked it up anon
Fucking it up harder isn't going to solve it

>>166486581
Nigga you don't even know where the room battle is, you'll be seriously pushing your luck.

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Some pepole will say it's true, some will say it's only a casual shittalk

>>166487092
It's not a boss mission.

>>166488772
isn't it both?

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Is it worth trying to push on? My Abom and Occult just died of heart attacks and my Arbalest isn't much good in the second row, but my Bounty Hunter is still going strong.

How many rooms count as 90% in a long mission? Is it still all but one?

>>166489270
It's whatever 90% of rooms are, rounded down. If there's 21 rooms, you need 18 to finish.

I want to make a party built around the Abomination; who should the other three be?

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if I don't do this quest right now, will it disappear next week or something?

i don't wanna do it right now, but I neither want to miss out on a quest

>>166492313
I recommend the Bounty Hunter in slot 1 to force targets into better positions and stun, beyond that, anything else works. A lot of people pidgin hole the occultist with him too, but you don't always need a healer if you're careful or carry a lot of food.

Arbs can help eliminate people fast when combined with other marking classes and if you have an occultist, using a MAA is a good combo for shunting damage away from others. PDs also good for stuns and stacking even more blight.

>>166492530
Nah, it'll keep coming back over and over again until you complete it.

If you don't do it now, the only thing that happens is you lose a few ranks on a building.

>>166492629
Alright, thanks. Personally I don't like the Occultist so I'll work around no dedicated healer, something I've never really done before.

>>166492313
The hamburglar, ronald, and grimace.

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So how is /dadg/ spending this evening

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>your vestal went one a quest for cock
haha it's not like i need her or anything lol

>>166492530
The quest will come back as many times as it takes for you to finish it, though the cool down on it appearing again resets each time. I believe it starts at a 7% chance once you're considered "able" to do the quest and it raises a small amount each week past the first.

>>166496934
Are you doing what i think you are doing you madman

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>>166496934
Looks good, keep it up so i can lose some of this stress i got built up.

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>>166498375
yes,its what im doing to waste time instead of finishing the ornstein hellion mod

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>Get a virtuous hero four missions in a row
ABOMINATIONS
BROUGHT LOW
AND DRIVEN
INTO
THE
M U D

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>>166499105
>when a mission is going poorly and you might need to bail after two fights
>Plague doctor on death's door
>have to leave fight
>heal up in the corridor outside
>fuck it, i burnt a lot of food but now im health again
>plague doc becomes max stress
>becomes Courageous
>carries team through the rest of the medium Champion level dungeon

Dazed

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>>166502015

Question, does "healing received" mean health for the class holder only?

Also are the Death Door items worth using?

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>>166502198

>>166502491
Received = that one holding the trinket.

>>166502762

Any reason to use them in stead of healing skills+
I could've understood if it was a front liner, but there's usually max health items and DPS classes + DPS items that are better instead

>>166503170
I never use them.

>>166496934
Update niggers, only the strings are missing and the background

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>>166506047
kill me

>>166506220
You need to change the background too

>>166506401
>only the strings are missing and the background

>>166506220
>>166506401
The guy on the left should be a Bone Courtier.

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>TFW just lost the first character i really cared about to some filthy giant
How quickly the tide turns!

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>>166506495

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Buncha fuckin' whiners on my team, seriously.

are there any good waifumods

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And boom its done
Fixed up the eyes a little so it actually looks somewhat like the jester

>>166509546
Fuck yeah Anon, good job.

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>>166509546
Wonderfull

>>166509546
Before you disappear into the anons again, any chance you could post a version without the background?
I wanna see if i can crop out a nice transparent and throw it into the game as the jester's lute skill use frame.

>>166510089
animated or just a still image

>>166510152
Either works.
Ideally the animation, i can remove the background myself and it could be useful in case someone else wants to put another background on it.

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>>166509546
noice

>>166510258
I'll try, im till figuring out toon boon and this was the first thing I managed to do

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>tfw you realize you can click the recycle button next to your heirlooms to turn them into other heirloom currencies

jesus christ, finally a way to turn all those useless crests into shit i need

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>>166509546
That's pretty good mate

>>166510336
Thanks a lot.
If you can't make it, a white background will probably be enough.

>>166510361
more like useless busts

>>166509546
Jesus Chirst, how relaxing.

>>166508467
I miss when you could camp in the first room. Whenever I had people in stress relief or in the sanitarium i'd send out a fuccboi squad of level 0s to a veteran quest with no food and they practically all died of heart attacks around the campfire.

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A-am i cool too guys?

>>166510456
Bit of a problem, I did get rid of all the backgrounds on every sprite, but cant turn it into a gif because GIMP is being an asshole

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>>166511705

RNG claimed my favorite Leper. Second time.
30 dmg crit + blight and 4/2 heal from Occ.

>>166442026
>not mentioning the greatest thing on the planet earth about old game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7AieaF6wIw
it's like you never even played the game

>>166512172
Do you understand now that adversity and existence are one and the same?

>>166513372
>that camera tilt
You guys turn that shit off, right?

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>>166513372
I miss when Mark for Death did damage.

>>166512172
Did you have his self-heal equipped? If you didn't, you should next time. Prevents stuff like that from happening.
>>166513372
I did like that, but it wasn't properly balanced. And if they had left trinket stacking in they would have either had to limit how many you got of each or nerf certain types of bonuses to hell
>>166513889
Now that, that I do miss about EA. Pointing people to death was fucking awesome.

>>166513889
That was too much fun.

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>tfw kleptos have no chance of stealing shit out of spite when they're fired

>>166513372
Why did they get rid of the quick-access quirk tab? It'd be useful, and there's nothing occupying that space now.

>>166518473
>and there's nothing occupying that space now.
More like that space doesn't exist anymore. Also it was redundant when all the info is already on the paper doll.

>>166518473
>eyes

Pls, no.

>Leave Dismas and Reynauld in roster without touching them to later get that achievement for bringing them to the final mission
>Fuck it, that's gay let's bring them out for once
>Step out the door, crit treebranch smackdown on Dismas
>Death's door
>Little other fucker follows up with a tap on him, killing him

I had to share, I'm mad.

>>166520747
Reminds me of that episode of Dexter's Lab where Deedee gives Dexter shit about not wanting to go outside and do shit out of fear of terrible things happening to him. So Dexter in the end goes outside and gets mauled by a bear and a tiger and a hawk and all this other shit.

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>Confusion Spores
>Vestal brought to the front
>Treebranch Smackdown
>Crit
>Crusader: 'Shake it off!'

>>166520747
What's the best team for Dismas and Reynauld, anyways?

>>166523418
Vestal and Plague Doctor

>>166523418
Or GR for freaking lance action.

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>go into pigland with regular crew
>beat objective fairly quickly
>"I think I'll douse the torch and get some loot"
>Swine Symphony reaches crescendo
Jesus Christ, I didn't think I'd have to make a resolve test as the player

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>>166524809
SQUEAL LIKE A PIG BOY

>>166524282
>vestal died in the very first expedition because of a long line of crits
>haven't seen another one since

this sucks

so I've got a theory on darkest dungeon based on what I've been seeing with the game so far.

The lore behind the Ancestor and all the bosses is easy enough to follow with the narration and the journal entries you find lying around the place. (spoilers btw) The one thing that always bugged me a bit was the ending of the game where you kill yourself and take up the ancestor's place. On top of that, you'll occasionally see the hamlet npc's morph into eldritch entities for a fraction of a second when you're buying goods/services, as well as seeing your party members do the same when you give/remove trinkets and see them in the sidebar as an eldritch entity. This gets more obvious as you get further and further into the game, with it almost becoming commonplace before you fight the final boss.

So I have three theories about this.

1: Eldritch powers are seeping out into the hamlet breaking the barrier of reality as you're interacting with the hamlet npc's and your party.
2: The hamlet npc's are already eldritch entities, simply guiding you and your party to the final boss so that he can harvest you or fall to you.
3: The entire hamlet, estate, dungeons, AND heroes are all creations of the ancestor after he became the heart of darkness in an attempt to keep the cycle continuing to either suppress the eldritch entities or feed an eternal hunger that either he or the entities he now serves has. This is also reinforced by the fact that you take up his vigil and call a new heir at the end of the game, suggesting that this entire expedition is just a cycle that keeps continuing. The heroes could simply have been inhabitants of the hamlet at the time the ancestor was working who fought against the entities before succumbing to them, thus giving them models to copy and supply to the heir, or the original group that came to the hamlet in search of fame/fortune and fell.

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I was looking for a thread on /v/ and couldn't find one. Didn't know there's a general on /vg/.

Fuck this boss desu. My party was supposed to destroy him, not to wipe on him. I still managed to kill him (basically houndmaster solo killed him) but he royally fucked up my vestalka and plague doctor switching them on position 1-2 all the time and forcing them making useless turns with 0 spells and absolute uselessness whatsoever.
Couldn't even heal once and missed a ton of damage from plague doctor in this fight.
My fault for not bringing mobile characters who can move position 1-2 back like Jester if it's needed and not taking heavy boots on maa.

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>>166527641
A true hero will never be forgotten.

>>166526382
The answer is that the heart is everything, including humanity. We are the equivalent of an errant growth, living and multiplying on our host. Your character is simply seeing reality.

>>166527641
You basically want people that can shuffle like GR, Crusader, Highwayman. That way even if vestal gets pulled out of place she can usually get moved into a row where she can at least AOE heal.

>>166527641
>somehow lost that many people with two guard characters
Did you get cirit on every hit or something?

>>166526382
My personal opinion on it from what the game gives you is that every human in the world is a piece of the beast within the world and we're blind to it. What you start to see when you come out of the Darkest Dungeon is a piece of the truth, that we are all one. I feel this is further emphasized by the fact that the Ancestor has a line about something like that right after the first DD mission and the fact that the insta-deathblow ability the final boss uses is literally called "Come unto your Maker". I also think some of the lore that the journal entries from other parties gives you is pretty spoopy, especially the fucking Cove/Fishmen one.

>>166527809
>>166528129
that sounds about right. i was just trying to find out why a cycle exists and who is actually a part of it and outside it coming in

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Let's come up with new skills for each class.

Vestal
>Sacred Flame
>usable in ranks 1, 2, and 3, reaches all ranks
>Buff 1 target
>+5% crit
>grants Riposte
>+5 Torch

Always felt like she should have a buff skill.

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Fuck my life

>>166528523
Jester
>Pun
>50% chance of marking the jester, causing miniml stress on all companions and buffing his dodge by 10 (at level 1 of course)
>50% chance to heal companions' stress, debuffing the enemies dodge and speed but slightly buffing their damage

>>166528005
How would you guard on this boss, his attacks are AoE with debuffs like Shambler's attacks. Also his minion is attacking first 1-2 positions which are vestalka+pd in my case.

>>166528826
Houndmaster
>mark territory
>stresses enemies

Take that you skelly fucks.

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>>166528971
I don't fucking know dude it's 2 in the morning and i can't sleep because i fear the boogeyman
You think i have time to think coherently?

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>>166528523
>grants Riposte
I can already see the Leper builds cumming buckets at this

okay friends I'm about to fight the first boss, the apprentice necro, what am I in for? Level 2 PD/Occult/Dismas/Reynauld.

>>166529454
Lots of boners.

>>166529454
he'll summon a skeleton every move he has, so basically focus on him with your PD, Occultist, and Dismas, and keep Reynauld to kill the skellies when they pop up in the front rows.

>>166529454
You might wanna switch for a vestal in case you need extra holy damage
Also the negromancer does a lot of aoes so unless you get disgusting lucky that occultist might end up fucking your fight

>>166529619
>spamming Hand of Light for a bit of Unholy damage
Not worth it at all.

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>>166529619
>not using occultist to assrape bosses with damage debuff, turning them into mewling children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqO8E5hZCpk
he's literally not even fair some fights.

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Why was I scared about the champion Siren?

Used 3 holy water on heroes except vestalka. Siren captured vestalka who used stun once. Siren died.

>>166528523
Granting something +5% Crit and Riposte is kinda strong considering that you could give that buff to any class in party with her and stack it to +15% in addition to any other bonuses they'll have. There's also the issue of balancing that at different levels. Assuming you're giving its stats at max level the early levels might be kinda niche, with the riposte being its only draw, but if that's the base then 5% crit chance is far too high and going any higher would be madness, which would lead to the skill's progression feeling shitty.

>>166529930
or you know, bring a proper marker party and delet them in 2-3 turns

>>166529930
To be fair he's either less useful on some because they don't deal the bulk of damage themselves, like Necro or Hag, or completely useless because it's not single target or there's another mechanic besides damage to consider, like Pounder or Sunken.

>>166530856
Made with max level in mind, though the crit could be reduced to say 3% per stack. Maybe 4%, since it's a single target buff as opposed to the Jester's Battle Ballet which is 3% per stack for the entire party, including +acc and +spd.

The balance comes from the fact that the Vestal is, first and foremost, a healer, and her job is to keep the party topped off. Giving her a buff would force her to choice what you feel is ore worth while at that given moment.

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Should I?

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>>166530906
>implying the tide cannot turn

>>166531270
Flip a coin.

>>166531270
2 markers, vestal, and crusader?
ezpz, rip shambler

>>166531391
No antivenoms and 2 bandages only

>>166531270
Enjoy your nipple poison.

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How didn't I finish this mission yet? Why does the secret room count as an unrevealed one?

>>166531276
>crit through anything on my way to the boss
>reach boss
>dodge
>dodge
>heal 0, bleed

I desrve it

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>Vestal goes Hopeless
>room battle
>skeletons all dogpile one guy
>death's door
>Vestal's turn
>Shh... not even the Light can save us now
>Pass
Guess what happened next?

>>166531797
15 is not 90% of 18.

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>>166531946
They all went for ice cream and lived happily ever after?

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hlep

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>>166532112
What's wrong? Go claim your hard-earned reward.

>>166532112
how?

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>>166532282
>Start off a dungeon where I gotta finish room battles
>not even that loot heavy and fucking collector shows up
>3 at death's door and one with a scrap of health by the end
welp, stress damage for quitting isn't that bad right?

>>166532282
Not scared of this guy at all.

>>166529619
>that occultist might end up fucking your fight

you were right, Dismas and Reynauld were at death's door all fight, the occultist was rolling 1s and 2s all fight, and PD had to double duty heal AND do the majority of the damage. I'm getting the feeling that HIghwayman is total ass in bossfights. At least Rey didn't let me down, by oneshotting all the adds with smite.

>>166531946
>>Shh... not even the Light can save us now
What is Light, considering what we learn at the end ?

>>166533857
Madness.

>>166532289
>how?
Always leave secret room for the last so you have free slots for loot.

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Fuck yeah time to lock some quirks

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>tfw Reynauld and Dismas both pay the price for your bad play one turn after the other
>against the fucking dead Necro Apprentice's reanimated soldiers

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OK LADS WHERE IS THE BOSS

>>166535445
Top left or right is my guess. I say left just because fuck it.

>>166535445
Top right.

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>>166535713
>>166535629
Wrong

>>166492530
>if I don't do this quest right now, will it disappear next week or something?
>
>i don't wanna do it right now, but I neither want to miss out on a quest

Just get an antiquarian or man at arms to protect a hero that is going to bomb

>>166537623
Finale is such fun. I wish it had a better crit chance though. Jester has the highest base Crit chance in the game, but all his skills have crap crit and get beaten out in total by Grave Robber.

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>>166537623
>Bone Sergent
>one shoulderguard
>33% Prot
>Bone Arbalest
>plate chestpiece and helmet
>0% Prot

>>166539361
I remember at one point Finale had a +17% or so crit mod.

>>166539361
I wish my grave robber with 22%+ crit chance could ACTUALLY FUCKING CRIT ONCE

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>>166539415
Can you make sceleton actually bleed?
Like with right trinkest and maxed skills, it is possible?

>>166539596
That's very excessive, but they nerfed it too much I think. It's still useful for sure though, just think there could have been a better middle ground.

>>166539771
I think you can bleed them if you take your level 6 heroes with fully upgraded bleed skills and trinkets on an easy mission from the level removal town event.

>>166539771
You used to but then they upped their bleed resist higher than any trinket could make it possible.

>>166539886
Easy mission skeletons have 200% resistance and the highest achievable bleed chance is 199%, 139% from skills and up to +60% with possible trinket combinations. What I don't know is if you manage to lower their bleed resist with a skill without killing them, can you apply the bleed then?

>>166420091
nice

>>166540142
That's an interesting question, and something that could easily be tested with a GR/Jester Combo. You'd probably need to stack negative damage trinkets though.

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Will Arbalest+Vestal+Hound+MAA work in DD2?
MAA obviously guards the one without the torch (probably Arbalest since she needs top dmg)

>>166542405
That should work fine, though you'll need to have either the Arb or the HM with mark to get full use out of both. Who though really depends on your builds.

HOLY SHIT /dadg/ IS BACK!?

I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY

>>166547083
New updates, mod support and DLC soon Friend. We figured we'd try the general after a good 20 or so full threads on /v/ and now we're back.

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>Tfw you're rocking multiple Sun Rings and you forget to refresh the torch as you're walking into a room that is more than likely a room battle

I get so irrationally mad at myself for doing dumb shit like that.

>>166547508
In case you didn't know, you can light a torch right before you enter a room even as you're locked into the enter animation. There's only a split second right before you enter the room that you can't.

Also, for anyone who didn't know, you can interrupt a forced curio interaction from a party member's quirk if you right click on a positive effect provision right as their speech bubble pops up.

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How stressful

>>166547770
What would happen if they replaced all the regular goblets in the hamlet's tavern with bone courtier goblets?

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Why is there so many good trinkets for position 4 or range attacks in general but so little good melee ones?

Trinkets from champion bosses are top tier for range heroes and there is literally not a single good one for melee damage.

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>>166548118
>put guy in for stress relief
>gets drunk but from the tempting goblet
>end up losing the money but stress remain unchanged
SKELETONS GO AWAY

What are your thoughts on backer trinkets annd heroes? They are mostly free bonuses. Do you use them? I feel kinda bad because you can only get them by "cheat" kind of but still want them.

Just had to retreat from a level 3 Hag fight, what do you guys think I did wrong?

Party was OC, HWM, GR, HEL. I basically couldn't damage her quickly enough and stave off her aoe attacks. Occultist had his hands full trying to heal so he couldn't mark for either pistol shot or throw dagger and Hellion had to attack the pot too frequently when she wasn't in it because the other party members didn't have the damage to do so.

I was thinking about maybe going double Vestal, row 2 vestal will have higher party heal due to that one trinket to help mitigate the partywide damage and hand of light to deal with giants on the way to hag. 2 Vestals would essentially allow me to heal as long as I need to but it's going to make me lose some damage even if her mace attack is PASSABLE.

What do you guys recommend against the final Hag? Please don't give advice if your experience is only based on her easy and medium forms.

>>166550087
>Party was OC, HWM, GR, HEL

Houndmaster-Houndmaster-Houndmaster-Houndmaster nigga

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Religiousness seem to be a mid-scraped idea. Two or so camping skills related to it, a limitation to Abomination use and that's it. Religious characters don't even have a different use of the Abbey.

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>>166550087
Mark party bruh.
I always take party like that on her, becouse she's the easiest boss in my opion

Dimas is dead

>Weald
>Giant and wolves
>wolves bleed him
>giant smackdowns him twice, one 40 damage crit still with the -dmg debuff
>bleed kills him

This game...seriously. And I got the wolves at the door.

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>>166551365
Never give up hope

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>>166529454
>okay friends I'm about to fight the first boss, the apprentice necro, what am I in for? Level 2 PD/Occult/Dismas/Reynauld.

Necro is easy, ruins probably have the easiest bosses in game. Might be the easiest location as well.
Was going for champion Necro and in a room fight before the boss 4 fucking spiders instakilled my almost full HP hellion without letting me do anything about it. Still killed the Necro with 3 people.

>>166551365
I never go weald without a guard.
Giants and those yellow schmacks can obliterate your position 1-2 if you don't protect them with guard of antiquarian / maa or high dodge of hound master.

>>166475002
Like always, Bounty Hunter carrying the team.

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>>166552681
Best class in the game

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>>166553207
wrong

>>166553380
Leper's good, but he needs a lot of work to make him shine. BH is a bit more straightforward IMO

>>166553207
how do you BH?
Ive always just used him as crowd controller and marker for gr and doggos

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>>166532602
>Anons shit talk me for saying he shouldn't bring the arab man
>The arab man ends up killing two of his dudes
Like pottery

>>166420091
very nice.

>>166553665
They actually survived, but being at deathblow for the entire fight is butthole clenching. Unless this is common in bossfights, I don't actually know yet.

Also the experience system in this game sucks ass, new party members I want to use are desync'd and it's annoying as hell because they might overlevel.

>>166553659
1.Click "Collect Bounty"
2.Click on enemy
3.(Snort)

>>166509546
Amazing

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some anon was asking for my gif without the background, I figured it out now

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>>166556929
that is some good work anon, more memes inc i hope

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fuck I've never fought this guy before

Should I just retreat? I don't know how tough this dude is but if it's as bad as I imagine, I won't be able to safely fight the boss.

>>166556929
Fucking great work, man.

>>166557645
Mark him and the hound will eat him for supper.

>>166557645
He's not too bad if you can get rid of the highwaymen quickly when they're summoned.

You're probably gonna get stressed to fuck though.

>>166557645
he's a bitch baby nerd born to have his lunch money taken from him every time he shows his stupid face

>>166556929
i need a mod that whenever you get critted this guy jumps up from the bottom of the screen playing a tune

>how quickly the tide turns
>*mocking banjo solo*

will this game ever come to tablets?
i mean, they bothered to release it on fucking vita of all things, they surely will port it to tablets, yes?
or should i just givew up on waiting for a tablet release and go for it on pc...

How much would it fuck the game if crits pierced protection?

>Plague Doctor, Vestal, Leper, Crusader party in the ruins
>destroying everything with ease
>get surprised
>party order is reversed

Well, I learned all about the importance of mobility there.

Woa woa woa. The game's alive again?

What happened? Did I miss an update or something?

>>166556929
>>>/wsg/1511796

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>>166557856
>>166557748
>>166557872
yeah it was pretty easy

now time to fight the hag. I feel like my party might not be able to do enough damage but hey we'll see.

>>166558669
The Hag should be pretty easy with that party.

>>166558669
bets on occultist biting it.
Or killing the BH as he ALWAYS does.

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>>166558640
amazing

>>166558640
whats the music sauce anyways

>>166560909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDiJiGuUeBo

>>166560251
>>166558836
BH got potted, but I killed her without needing to heal anyone. Houndmaster does some pretty respectable damage once he's buffed up.

>>166553659
It depends, really. He's really good at disrupting the enemy formation, and his stuns are great, so you can use those. He can also be your main damage dealer in a mark party, and he can use his attacks from most positions, so he's also good in a team with Jesters and GRs.

>>166533857
So right, some anons have said that judging by the end of the game, we're all part of the heart of darkness, and what we see after the first DD is what we're destined to return to.

So what if the light is actually the flipside of the coin. It is a sort of heavenly master, an outsider or astral being that is attempting to steal humanity and the world from the clutches of this creature they have spawned from by forcing order into its designs. Life might've started as the formless masses that we see in the DD, but somewhere along the way, another elder being of immense power started forcing its own will on creations, making them distinct and semi-uniform, creating humanity, animals, plants, and everything else. Humans find themselves stuck between an eldrich being attempting to make their bodies one with itself, and another eldrich being attempting to make their minds one with him. Both sides are equally terrifying in different ways, and humanity doesn't have a lot of say beyond attempting to influence one or the other.

Through modding, would it be possible to have a "large" character class? Like a giant that takes up two slots in a party.

>>166550568
Originally, characters would gain certain quirks that would make them gain or lose religiousness. If you look at one of the vestal's camp skills, it prevents midnight ambush ONLY if she herself is religious.

If my guess is correct, I imagine they left it in for flavor purposes, but decided that managing religiousness and irreligiousness was too much of a chore to bother with.

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How many have you lost /dadg/?

>>166557935
RH mentioned looking in to "other platoforms" and how DD really lends itself to a touch screen, so I'd say it's happening eventually. No ETA though.

>>166565353
Did they change some sprites or something?

>>166565145
it sounds extremely autistic which makes it perfect for the game

I hope they add it in the DLC, it's possible it was scrapped because they didn't have the time for it.

>>166565812
Someone might mod it in the game when Steam Workshop integration comes

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>>166565353
>that arby mod

>Beyond the Grave event
>Reynauld Lives Again!!!

What happens if you lose a trophy trinket in a dungeon? Is it just gone forever?

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>>166518473
>>166520739
>immediately think it's shit because eyes
>notice the eyes of the HM and GR are inverted
>realize it's because they're afflicted
Though I'd still prefer no eyes, it's actually a nice touch

>>166565379
i hope they release it this year, i really would appreciate it.
as it is now, my tablet is used only as a shitposting/point and click adventure games machine

>>166564929
Don't think so. That would take A LOT of re-coding.

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If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Dungeon and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll beat this Game, my son!