/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Friendly reminder to ignore /v/ posters

Bloodborne is the best Souls game

I really hope there's some decently modest and 'normal' weapons and armor in the DLC. Not a bunch of that gay pokey lightsaber shit.

>>166407425
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

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>>166407234
>a cliff to abuse backstepping AI on
Do you think that can stop ME?

>>166407576
>tripfag
>completely blinded by nostalgia

>>166407576
After DaS3 cant play DaS1 seems so shetty

the faith bow is gonna be shit and you know it

Gameplay
BB > DaS3 > DaS2 > DaS > DeS

Overall
BB > DaS3 > DaS > DaS2 > DeS

>>166407576
DeS should be right beside 2.

Remind me which platform Dark Souls 1 is active pvp wise

>>166407728
Never played bb, but this ranking is pretty good.

>>166407609
>>166407656
>>166407757
>giving replies to the guy that struggled to kill Maneater Boar

>>166407728
Making the combat all about dodging is pretty gay

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Reminder that this man is your best friend.

>>166407860
>he used shields in the first place

>>166407383
>fpbp
>tripfag immediately starts a rank post

What do I need to change about my build to beat Aldritch? Pontiff was easy as fuck, but I know Aldritch's pattern and its still not helping. I can't avoid damage even when I know what's coming, and I'm wearing the fucking black set (its extremely light). I take so much damage from even being clipped that it drains all my estus as soon as I get hit at all by any of his attacks.

>>166386657
>offhand a +10 Simple weapon for FP regen while wearing Farron Ring
>recover FP by unzipping dual Executioner's Greatswords and backstabbing mobs with Aldrich's Sapphire
I don't see the problem.

>>166407728
>DeS so low

Trash.

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Hell, DS3 was my least played of the series and i didn't even touch the first dlc. Here comes the second.

I'm so tempted to go back but i just know this game's online is dead on console

I miss Dark Souls

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>>166407975
Fuck, I didn't even post the damn stats.

I played DaS1 with a melee build and often I thought "man I should have become a mage, I heard they are fun", especially when some random invader did a million damage with trackcing projectiles from a mile away
Is magic still OP as fuck in DaS2? I heard there's some area that specifically has a shitload of magic resistant enemies but I assume by that time I will have leveled another combat attribute enough to kill them with a weapon

>>166408026
>clunky combat
>linear as hell
>super easy
>one memorable bossfight in total
>all mechanics were significantly more refined in later titles

Replay it, or don't, if you want to keep those rose tinted goggles

>>166408121
Gonna need the full version of that image please

>>166407848
I agree with him DaS2 worst part series. This shit animation, slow motion only duals be good but ather - big sheeet

>>166408026
You'd have to be blinded by nostalgiagoggles even thicker than DaSfags to seriously think it can favorably compare to the improvements of any other game that came after it.

>>166408121
It's only dead if you have an X-bone, PS4 is purportedly more active than on PC.

Do I have to buy all the goddamn spells from Orbeck again, when I already bought all of them in NG?

>>166408158
post weapons/rings your ar is fucking low

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>Green Smelter

lol fuck that weak shit, when are we getting abyss/pus of man smelter dual wielding the red and blue swords?

>>166408167
Magic is more varied but less overpowered.
Your safest bet would be something like dark fog + dark orb.

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>>166408337
What the hell is ar? Is that related to damage?

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>>166408158
My top build for ivade
+3/+6 weapons

>>166408367
So no more killing bosses from afar in 4 or 5 soul spears or whatever they are called?

>>166408478
I don't know what equipment you are using.

>>166407975
Put fire on your weapon and stick to his asshole.
When he goes into phase 2, just run around a bunch when he does the arrow move since it lasts a long ass time

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>>166408562
+2 fp ring

>>166408403
Attack Rating also called Attack Power. The somewhat arbitrary number of how much damage your weapon does.

FIGHT CLUB

>>166408743
We had the biggest one in a while yesterday and it's Monday. Maybe later.
You the full Havel's FUGS newfriend?

>>166408371
You mentioned ng+, so I can assume you've got +10 weapon already? I have Anri's maxed out and I don't know if you'll be able to pick it

>>166407576
"How good were they when they came out?"
DeS > BB > DS1 > DS2 > DS3

"How good are they if you play them today?"
BB > DS3 > DS2 > DeS > DS1

>>166408970
Yeah I have a +10 Court Sorcerer's Staff :^(

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Europians cant into Dark Souls

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>DLC trailer not out for 1 fucking day
>/v/ faggots and lucy come crawling out of the woodwork
anyway is the Ringed City Londor? or does this mean Vaati and co are once again btfo by From

>>166408675
I remember people calling this a noobtrap ring, did anything change?

>>166408986
Nah, DeS and DaS1 are still better than DaS2

>>166409183
One of the buildings had a big sword of avowal at the top. It seems like Londor.

>>166409094
It's fine, I'll put my sign right now at high wall pass: edgy.

>>166408715
Why is mine low then? Its a +6 refined partizan. Am I underleveled? I can't get this thing stronger unless I go farm a flame spear from the gargoyles in the profane capital.

>>166409250

This.

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>>166409113

>>166408675
Where do you get that? Never seen it.

>>166409183
Screenshot description on the official fb page for Dark Souls says the Ringed City was founded by pygmies.

The cluster fuck of buildings seen in screenshots is called the Dreg Heap


From the screenshots it looks like this DLC will have four different areas to explore.

>>166408986
This is pretty accurate, except I'd switch BB and DS1 on the came out ranking, and DeS and DS1 on the today ranking

>>166409235
best ring for low lvl. after 70 its useless shit but 10-50 its rly good

>>166408172
>clunky combat
Please, it's faster than DaS

>linear as hell
Yes, but you can choose where you want to go first, it's not as linear as DaS3.

>super easy
True, if you played any other Souls before it's the easiest, except in NG+1, this shit rapes people usually.

>one memorable bossfight in total
Astraea, Flamelurker, Penetrator, Old King Allant, Old Monk, Maneaters, Stormking.

>all mechanics were significantly more refined in later titles
Well if it wasn't like that in all games I would be worried, thanks devs refine the mechanics with their newer games.

>>166408274
I didn't play it when it was out, I played it after DaS3, a month ago. I got a PS3 and though why not give it a try ? Turns out it's really great. Far better than DaS2 in my opinion.

>>166409317
>Framerate unsuitable for online play
JUST

So the Queen of Lothric laid a fucking egg?

>>166409492
U need Soul of Gundyr

>>166409329
Partizan is just on the lower end when it comes to damage.
>>166409619
but you got that sword right?

>>166409648
Well she did fuck an eyeless dragon guy. Low standards I guess.

>>166409594
I mean, is the bonus to hp worth it if you actually take more damage?

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Did they ever doing anything to help faith builds?

>>166409838
made arena unembered so that regen is proportionally a lot better

that's about it

>>166409603
>Please, it's faster than DaS
Debatable, and faster doesn't mean less clunky

>You can choose where you want to go first
Yeah, sure, but the levels are still point A to point B with mediocre level design

>Penetrator, Maneaters, Stormking, Flamelurker
>memorable
I guess Astraea is cool from a pure lore perspective, and Old Monk has a (rarely used) cool mechanic, but the others? Nah, I don't see why.

>thanks devs refine the mechanics with their newer games
Well that's the point, DaS doesn't hold up that well in my opinion, and one of the reasons is that the later games did what it tried to do better.

>>166409721
Yeah I managed to grab it in time. I was just worried you might have tried to drop something else that got eaten.

Thanks a bunch though.

I haven't had that error at all during my playthrough. There were some sketchy parts of Lothric Castle, but it never actually kicked me out.

>>166409810
RIng give me 110 hp and 12 stamina + low bonus to armor. and if enemy can deal to me 100-200 damage per hit u can see its 115-230

So, where do you think the DLC's entrance will be? Another simple NPC, or something more akin to AoA?

>>166409810
Depends on how much armor you're wearing but generally you take more damage than you get in return, at best it comes out about even, it's really only good for the stamina and equipload.

>>166409838

Yeah. The Rose of Ariandel is the new cheapest weapon in the game with phantom hitboxes out of the ass.

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>This new adventure has players chasing after the Slave Knight Gael to the literal end of the world as he searches for the Dark Soul of Humanity.

Ooooooooooooooooooh FUCK.

>>166409838
They gave Lothric's Holy Sword E scaling with Faith

Wait, strike weapons prevent skeletons from reassembling in DS3?

>>166410030
I rollback my saves after giving out freebies anyway, so it doesn't matter.

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Reminder that AoA was a mistake

>>166410384
No, but they knock them down with each hit.

>>166409838
I have fucking axe + fucking sword with 322 damage who need more?

>>166410465
>SL 150 build
>in a recommened SL 80 area
>complaining that it's easy

You're not very bright are you

>>166409250
DeS and DS1 have aged a lot worse than DS2.

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>Drangleic Crest
>Desert Sorceresses
>Manikins
>Earthen Peak

I TOLD YOU FUCKERS DS2 WAS CANON

I CAN'T WAIT FOR ALDIA TO BE THE ONE WHO COMMISSIONED THE PAINTING

>>166410306
>Rose of Ariandel
>a weapon that you literally flair youself with to boost your faith

holy fuck, i've been playing for a long time but skipped out on that dlc.

>>166410465
wtf i hate friede now

>>166410465
Shut up isis.

>>166410580
>Drangleic Crest
?

>>166410306
Hi paddrick

>>166410548

>that vitality

Definitely not even close to 150, I'd say it's not even 120

>>166409539
I might have overestimated the BB hype because it was the only/best PS4 game at the time.

>>166410580
>Canon
lul wut its can be ather reality like X-man reality

>>166410649
Fuck off from FCs

What happens when we link the fire/shut down the fire/become Darth Vader? What do we win?

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>>166410465
>I can trash the easy phase with an over leveled character

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>>166410548
>>166410685

It's actually SL100

>>166409810
If you gain 15% more damage but have over 15% more HP its a net gain for the most part.

Now if you really had like double health in exchange for taking double damage, that would actually be a bad thing since your estus and healing miracles would feel half as large, but in low level invasions you're gonna hit the top of your healthbar a lot anyway, plus you get 5 endurance which is always welcomed, plus 5 vitality which is potentially meaningful.

Generally speaking, if you're using it as a means of hitting 27 vigor (as in, you otherwise wouldn't be able to) it's a complete gain.

>>166410306
>heysel pick but for mages
it isn't exactly op anon

>Playing the dlc on your sl120 char on ng
>wtf it's so easy
Why aren't you on ng+7 yet ?

>>166410961
Rose's buff last 2 minutes and turns SLS if you can land them into a one hit kill

>>166410465
>being able to easily beat a boss makes it bad
congratulations, every boss is now bad

>>166410873
>>166410874
I never bought the dlc is it worth it?

>>166410785
>katana metalord complains about muh flayul
kek

>play the dlc with greatswords/curved swords
>wtf it's so easy

>>166411001
On ng+7 this dlc seems pretty hard. wolf so faggot can kill u with 1.5 hits its rly shit but i didnt have problem with this slut srsly 125 sl

>>166411109
AoA? Fuck no.

Ring city might be depending on if they man up with angel shit or not.

>>166411104

>gets fucked by literal R1 spamming with one of the worst weapon class in the game

>>166410961
>heysel pick but for mages
Except it doesn't get hyperarmour.

>>166411212
Sad. DS2 dlcs were really good.

>>166411109

Yeah but only if you're not buying at full price. Seriously, it's not worth full price.

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>Giant that's been around since the early Age of Fire and once served as a official for the gods.
>Probably knows all the secrets to all the mysteries of the Dark Souls universe.

>Probably has little to no dialog and we'll have to kill him in a boss fight.
>All we'll get from him is some extremely vague, obvious, or unrelated shit from his soul description and weapon/set if he has one.

Fucking christ, is there anyway to do pvp in ds3 without this fucking lag bullshit? I'm so tired of every single faggot with a longsword hitting me from 7 feet away. Seriously, this is even worse than ds1 and 2s pvp.

>>166411001
Don't really wanna grind out to NG+7 honestly.

>>166411251
You just described every boss

>>166411090
That might be overpowered if offensive miracles were actually good in the first place

>>166411263
>I accidentally said mages
>heysel pick is already for mages
wtf I hate mages now

>>166411251
>cgs are finally good at something
>wtf I hate cgs now

What were the salt inducers in past games? In 3, we have point down, clapping, and stalk dung pies.

>>166411279
Alright I'll wait.

>>166411326
It's generally fine imo and I have shit connection.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/138524
I've been using it to deal with gankers.
I alternate MGH with DS Greataxe and Raw ASS between invasions.
Is it worth farming Darkmoon Blade or should I just stick to Lightning Blade.

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>>166411251
>r1 spamming with a CGS isn't OP as fuck
ahem

>>166409721
Then what do I use? The gargoyle flame spear?

>>166411326
Basically pretend you have afterimages and use iframes instead of spacing when applicable. 1 and 2 would give you some serious dial up shit but it actually felt like a restriction from just couldn't deal with, in 3 it almost seems like its on purpose.

>>166411429
I have yet to fight anyone that isn't laggy as fuck and my connection is great. I'm fucking tired of it.

>>166411538
You can beat Aldrich with partizan if you buff it with fire. Unless you want to get easy modo fight I wouldn't bother with gfs.

>>166411647
I'm having issues today too so I quite before I get salty about it.

Who's the sleeping waifu with the broken egg in the trailer?

Also that egg looks like the weird crabs that appaered from time to time in DaS I

>>166411583
I'll not bother with it if there's no correlation between what I see on my screen and what the game says is happening. That's unacceptable.

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>>166411251
>CGS
>one of the worst

>>166411731
Gertrude or some new character nobodies even heard of before

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>the official Dark Souls FB page is now called Dark Souls II

What did they mean by this?

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>>166411731

>>166411731
Current theory is that it's either Gwynevere, Queen of Lothric, or Gertrude.

Reality is it's probably some new character that has little to no bearing to the plot other than being a egg holder.

>>166411902
Nice, so we get another large female that will just sit there and have no dialogue whatsoever.

Good way to cut corners and voice actors I guess.

Holy shit Farron Greatsword is the most funnest weapon in the game.

>>166411902

Or maybe she's a firekeeper

Since you know, their eyes are dark abyss and shit

>>166410785
>Being this mad that someone outplays you with regen and a flail
stop being such a passive dweeb lmao

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Reminder that complaining about irrelevant yet properly implemented references and reused content is retarded and not valid criticism against a game

People who say otherwise are just mad their precious DaS2 got no proper recognition

>>166411762
Well it's correlated, it's just delayed. Basically your hitbox doesn't actually move over to there you're rolling towards until the roll completes, which, in conjunction with lag, allows people to basically get double reach if they're rollpunishing sine they just strike where you were rolling from rather than where you landed. For example, land R1-R1 with an SS, then R2 to rollpunish. Don't worry about aiming, just timing. It'll hit from a mile away even on your screen. Fromsoft realized that lag made shit look retarded on one persons screen, so they for some reason opted to just make it a nice homogenous bullshit everyone can see. Beats me why they're able to update the player's model location faster than the hitbox.

>>166412084
Japs just can't into superior western storytelling

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>>166411990
yeah that feeling will subside pretty quickly
THIS on the other hand...

If they don't give Orma and Reeve's Greatshields a real moveset I'm gonna be pissed

>>166412149
Because the game uses P2P connection instead of dedicated servers, it's that simple

>>166412206
I'm not a magicfag.

>>166411251
no heavy weapon is bad for pve, the lone fault of CGS aside from comperatively weak hyperarmor is how easy they are to parry, which doesn't apply against bosses

>>166412206
>3's pathetic MLGS
>not BB's most varied version
>or 1's, the strongest MLGS in the series

Shit taste

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>>166411826

>They all share the same moveset except for the shit WA
>Slow as shit, just a bit faster than ultras
>Weight is comparable to some ultras
>And their 2HR1 moveset is parryable while doing modest damage, so they have all the disadvantages of ultras without their advantages

>>166412340
>no spells attuned
Neither is he.

>>166412340
>thinking mlgs users aside from gankers ever equip spells

>>166412253
yeah, but they can update the character's model location, which is identical to where the hitbox should be; they have all the nessecary information coming in on time, they just don't have optimized netcode

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>>166412340
>no attunement slots
neither am I, guiding moonlight all the way
>>166412380
>THIS WEAPON FROM BLOODBORNE BEATS THIS WEAPON FROM DS3
no shit

>>166412391
>long as fuck
>faster than UGS
>horizontal swings
>complaining about the moveset when almost every weapon has the same moveset as others in it's class
>fast as fuck running attack
>INCREDIBLE HYPER ARMOR

Nigger you just want to feel that it's bad. Maybe you're bad? Maybe you just can't use anything besides straightsword R1 spam?

>>166412627
>not reading my full post

MLGS doesn't compare to how good it was in 1. 3's version is a shame to how nice that one was

>>166410874
>1488

YUS

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>>166407234
I fucking knew it /dsg/

I fucking knew it and called it waaay before AoA was announced

DLC2 is the continuation of the hollow lord ending

No one believed it, some people gave me the benefit of the doubt

i should try lottery now

Can someone tell me why i still can't get over the combat of DS3 vs past games? I can't figure out how to describe it.

Its like there is no weight to the movements you do. I feel smaller. The hit detection feels awkward. Maybe its all the long swords.

>>166412805
NO SHIT we're comparing weapons within ds3 you actual autist; no shit the other games did it better but that's fucking irrelevant

>>166412589
>aside from gankers
I miss greatswords being underpowered honestly

In duels they're fine since most sorc sucks one on one, but a squad of mlgs mages with nuke spells is as bad as a pre-nerf AGS+bloodring squad. They shouldn't get to poise through things like SS for free, you should at least need around 15 vit's worth of armor or so.

>>166413030
Pretty sure literally everyone knew lord of hollow would be the canonical ending.

>>166410567
That's because shit will still be shit even with age.

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>>166412975

Cute!

>>166413030
NEW CURVED SWORD

>>166407894
Explain? l thought he was villain number 1 on this game

>>166413059
They went with a DeS/DS1 feel like all the ptde babs wanted and it feels like shit in BB's engine with none of BB's primary traits.

>>166412719

The strongest CGS weights more than the BKGS, while having less AR, and being parryable, their HA activates very late compared to greatswords, the pose patch actually fucked them up.

The only really good thing about them is the running attack.

>>166412206
>using bad gsoj

>>166413271
You are the villain

Thank god Dark Souls games are ending. I am tired of them milking this franchise.

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>>166413097
>greatswords need trading to be broken
ummmm

>>166413356
>WA restricted beam attack
>not pure single stat investment
ummmmmmmmm

>>166412149
Thanks for the explanation but I'm familiar with WHY its doing this. I still don't like it.

>>166413068
Yes and MLGS is disppointing compared to other GS in 3.
It is good but not for good reasons. It's good because it has good range and AR for low stat investment allowing you to be a poise god with it. The R2s aren't as good as they used to be and the WA is inferior to something like homosword (which is worse because low AR) or GSoJ.

>>166413313
>Comparing BKGS
k
Allow me
>ONLY VERTICAL SWINGS
ONLY VERTICAL SWINGS
>Players can get out of the second R1 very often
>Even as you said SLOW AS FUCK
>ONLY VERTICAL
>SWINGS
Comparing to GS now as well?
>Hyper armor activates at the same time you ninny
>Hyper armor on par with UGS and beats out GS
>Can out range some GS

>>166413356
GSOJ is only better if you're scaling more stats, MLGS is good for the same reason dex weapons are good

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>>166413271
>l thought he was villain number 1

>>166413104
ofc everyone fucking knew the hollow lord ending was the canon ending, what i mean is that DLC2 starts AFTER the hollow lord ending

i feel like fucking alakazam

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>>166413309
I really don't like how they reused animations from DaS. I really miss how you held weapons in DaS2.

>>166413676
>ugs poise health 27.3
>cgs poise health 24.2
>on par
lmao

>>166413674
But you were talking about shit from different games you flamboyant sperg

>>166413650
>quotes me (166413097)
>says something not related to what I'd said
ummmm

>implies doing well in a mirror matchup somehow suggests a weapon is overpowered
ummmmmmm

>>166413947
That's pretty fucking close mate. Maybe not exactly the same, but it's pretty fucking close.

So why did they remove MLGS beam explosions?

>>166413030
Put on a trip. Get a wacky tripfag personality and start gloat about how you are always right.

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FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW

THe dark souls are on sale at humble bumble for just a few more days. Get them while you can

Is there actually a ring or something that lets you walk on lava in DS3.

I played the game trough without ever actually thinking about going in lava.

>>166413980
Well, you said you didn't want to compare MLGS to other MLGS, and
>NO SHIT we're comparing weapons within ds3

So I compared it with other GS in 3 and why it's a disappointing weapon

>>166414065
i dont need validation when i know i was right

im simply informing you people that all theorycrafters and shit can go suck my balls

fukin nailed it

damn im hyped

>>166413871
DeS/DaS2 stand out as the best when it comes to player animations. BB too probably, but I can't really have an opinion when I never played it.

>>166414263
God Emperor Satan would be a nice tripname. Use that.

>>166414223
No ring. There are only two instances where you have to walk on lava, to pick up 4 items, one of them only being an ember.

>>166414015
>ugs user needs 37.7 poise to tank through every gs swing
>cgs needs 44.8
that's a huge difference when you're playing a min/max minigame

>>166413030

That's a fat Angel from LC, just hollow

>>166411902
But rosaria is clearly gertrude you retard

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>>166413995
>I miss greatswords being underpowered
>They shouldn't get to poise through things like SS for free, you should at least need around 15 vit's worth of armor or so.
>post webm of winning without poising through anything
are you retarded and incapable of forming sentences that convey what you intended for them to convey, or just retarded

>>166414564
look at the sun you imbecile

What other pieces of armor work well with the pontiff knight armor?

>>166414583
That's clearly rosaria you retard

>>166414516
Either A:
You don't care to poise through all GS swings as most people do
B:
You actually invest in Vit so you can get more poise. The funny thing about this is that poise stacking is a a meme because armor poise/weight ratios are all over the place so you could most likely have enough poise no matter what. If you're going to stack poise might as well actually minmax it

>>166414692
Other pieces of pontiff knight armor. Fashion souls is a bad meme and doesn't work in DaS3.

>>166414684
AW FUCK

>>166414684

What sun?

The enemy is a hollow Cherub from LC.

It's not LC, but the enemy itself is the same asset as the fatties outside of Prince Lothric's fight.

>>166414647
>">I miss greatswords being underpowered"
>somehow equal to claiming they're broken, like 166413650 said

>winning without poising through anything
>winning with a weapon proves it's overpowered
wow everything is overpowered now

>duel webm
>was exclusively talking about ganks
>have stated multiple times that they're fine in duels

(you)

>>166410465
You seem pretty overleveled.

>put summon sign down
>host is summoning me to 2v1 an invader like a pussy
>emote spams me as I stand back because I'm not enabling his faggotry

Every damn time.

>>166414762
Fashion souls works fine in DaS3, you just need to find the right pieces of armor.

>>166414308
DeS maybe, but DaS2? really? My main complaint with that game were the animations, the movement was clunky and floaty, and weapons lacked weight. The biggest sin was the stagger animation. In the previous games you feel like you were recoiling from a powerful blow, in Dark Souls 2 you get an hilariously bad animation that has to be seen to be believed. And then you get to the "pancake" animations, that were your model instantly goes to a resting position and floats in the air a bit.

The only good parts were the way the player held the weapons (callback to DeS) and the spear/halberd backstab animation.

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>they actually brought back dual great shields
"breaths in"

>>166414967
neck
souls
3

>>166414879
are you legally blind?

it has NOTHING to do with the knight

>>166415016
>wooden
>implying they'll be good

I'm more interested in possible bone fist.

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>feature the executioner's greatsword prominently on the new cover AND on the new box art
>give it to important NPC
>found in a set area with a little trap

>it's just a bastard sword with a copy pasted WA

why tho

>>166415080

Look at the armor
The shape of the enemy

It's literally the fatty angels he's fighting in the picture

>>166415016
>inb4 D to C str scaling, can't infuse it, weapon art is shield bash with both shields

>>166414978
I don't know how you got that impression. If anything most of the weapons in DaS2 feel like they have too much weight behind their stikes.

The movement feels less clunky than DaS1, and DaS3 feels less clunky than DaS2. Seems like they just improve upon that kind of thing in a linear fashion.

>>166415016
Who /FUCKING INVINCIBLE/ here?

>>166415016
I love them, but I prefer the design of Orma and Reeve's. At least you can block with both of them now. I wonder if it will work like Valorheart, where you block with L1, do the WA with L2, and do dual shield attacks with r1 and r2.

I hope the WA is good and not just a copypasted greatshield bash because that does no damage.

>>166415016
It's going to have absolutely no fire resist and probably sub-100 physical resist.

>>166415230
>inb4 it's yet another spin WA

>>166415163
At this stage of the game From is in it for the money and literally nothing else

>>166415297
>Unusually shaped paired greatshields resembling great doors.
>The firmly closed door will help to block a myriad of attacks from the enemies.

>>166413030
Ok so the sun means this place is in the same geographical area as the kiln of the first flame

since Londor is what remains of lodran, we can safely assume this is londor based

shitty youtubers got rekt

>>166415302
>spin as long as you want with two shields
>can potentially stunlock harder than 2 axes while having block frames against anyone who tries to trade with you

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>>166414896
>have stated multiple times that they're fine in duels
eh, just retarded

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>>166415080

They're either reusing the same model, or it's meant to be the same fatty, just hollowed

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Are twitch fags and arena fags the most cancerous things in souls ?

>>166415302
Nah I bet it's some kind of charging attack

>>166415297
Which won't matter very much if it blocks while attacking.

>Dreg Heap, the furthest end of the world.
>Various remains from different historical periods have accumulated over time, resulting in high towers.
calling it now
"hurr durr remember DaS1 goys you like DaS1 stuff ha ha now here's an enemy that does 80% in one attack prepare to die XD"

Bonewheel shield has 100% block.
Millwood shield has 100% block.
Ancient Dragon greatshield doesn't have 100% block.

>>166415513
nice R1 mashing

Few times Dark Souls made me feel like a failure like just now. Silver Knights in Irythill are beating my ass. Only like the 5th something time do I realize they're near identical to DS1 Silver Knights that I used to farm for souls and their weapons for hours.

Goddamnit.

>>166415513
>spam rb to win

Why does anyone even bother with this game's utter shit pvp?

>>166415586
Yes, putting a spotlight on pvp as something other than invasions is the cancer killing these games

>>166415545
>They're both fat and swing a weapon
Reused models!

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>>166415686
that's the point

>>166415694
closeted masochism

>>166415689
Don't roll, stick to their shield arm and walking around them and get free backstabs when they swing. They become an utter joke.

>>166415689
They seem way faster and more aggressive. Plus those lightning attacks are totally new

>>166415545
The "grab weapon with two arms" attack really reminds me of the pot guys in settlement

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>>166415545
who the fuck cares about the enemy it's about the god dan dripping sun you see in the kiln at the end of DaS3

>>166415163
>implied to have something to do with Horace/Anri due to being outside the cathederal of the deep, presumably having once belonged to the executioner Horace slew, and having an effect similar to the ring Anri gives you to
>sword was lone link that implied the the ring was originally a gift from Horace, which actually adds emotional impact when Anri gives it to you, as it proves they've really given up on him
>gets shamelessly copy pasted onto destructo disk guy
here's to hoping gale just found it outside the cathedral after sending you into the painting

>>166415686
>>166415694

Spamming R1 only works when the enemy doesn't expect it, otherwise you get rekt by any good player. Good players sometimes seem like they spam R1, but they do so thoughtfully, after predicting what the enemy will do.

Gertrude porn when.

>>166414182
bump

>you can stunlock manus with headshots

topkek

>>166415513
>look mom, I can kill dumb players with GS
you can kill the average joe player by standing still and mashing L2, they won't even know to sprint backstab

their only issues are that they invalidate larger weapons due to usually requiring the same amount of hits to kill in unembered arena, and that the 30% hp bonus hosts get extra trade ammo and can use MLGS to near full potential basically for free as a mage

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>>166416048
>good player
what is that, can I eat it?

>>166416207
>killing memestein

He sucks

>>166416207
>not Ornstein literally fucking around with Morion blade
>lmao I'm so good I killed him
just end yourself

>>166416048
>good player
I see people say this almost every fucking thread but I've never actually met one. How do you even judge if somebody's a good player? Most good players I fight are using obscure garbage weapons and put up fun fights but they never have an arena rank. Double Golds in the arena are almost always the shittiest players, who can't even properly dodge Deep Soul even with dks 3's embarassingly easy iframes. Metashitters are metashitters 100% of the time, they rely entirely on their weapon to win them the duels and don't understand basic shit like "rolling attack doesn't combo in standing R1" and do nothing but rollcatch. If you get out of the rollcatch attempts it's a free win because of how unbelievably bad they are at every other aspect of the game.

>>166415851

Yeah. Pot guys do it with the machete and pot.

I can see how it looks like an angel, plus there's an angel flag in the trailer.

I'm betting we'll see angels, probably ones that were invading Londor; perhaps the Serpents decided to throw down with each other

I hope the dual greatshields are just pure strength with no quality crap.

Good players don't play DaS3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRoHE7MnEWM

>>166410580
I'm triggered about that pic

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Being able to backstab/parry pve ennemies was a mistake

Is Demon's Souls pvp still a thing?

>>166416962
>that shit music
>that shit gameplay

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>>166416048
>>166416161
>you can kill an AVERAGE player, but a GOOD player would wreck your shit :-D
out of all of them this has got to be the dumbest fucking excuse; what is a good player even?
>Ohoho you beat that guy but he was just bad, another dude on a higher rung of the vague metric scale would have totally done different things so there
If you consider winning to be good then passive reactive metalord memeing is the pinnacle of skill. If winning with bad weapons or some shit makes you good then you're just going to be more passive, and if winning without being passive makes you good then you're using better weapons. Fuck off with this non-argument shit; there are no good players in DS3.
This game isn't even competitive, let alone balanced.

>>166416614
>I'm so good
>been talking about how broken gs are through the entire chain
erm

>>166414182
BUMP

A million skeletons instantly spawn whenever I try to go talk to my future wife.

I want to get off mr.Bones wild ride.

>>166417180
no
if you want to escape from the typical souls shittery you go to BB

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>two months since the last patch
>two more months until the DLC is even out

>>166417406
I thought bloodborne died out long ago

>>166417226
Nearly every webem you post is of a guy rolling into you until they're a hit away from dying, then being rollcaught as they try to roll away or something.

You're literally showcasing the best way to not play against a greatsword, it's obvious as fuck cherry picking and you aren't fooling anyone.

>>166417226
>>166417589
You guys should 1v1 then post results

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>>166417589
Oh wow is that so then what's the alternative hmmmmm?

>>166417406
BB's shittery is worse than DaS3

>50 skl oneshot visceral fishers
>50 blt evelyn spammers
>laggy as fuck rakuyo / BoM / saif shitters
>heals and fishing for heal ripostes

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lmao
>Captcha is select all images with trees

>>166417573
no, it came back after they fixed the matchmaking in TOH
now it's just moving along

>>166417881
DUDE

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is that

is that a fucking black phantom enemy?

>>166417726
not a PC player

>>166417859
literally walk away and throw knives and darts retard, GS have a notoriously dogshit running attack and the difference in speed between a GS and an SS R1 is greater than the difference between a caestus and midshield parry

>>166418098
>>166415779
>be a passive faggot
my, I have been schooled
lemme guess: this faggot didn't do it hard enough to be a "good player"?

>>166418063
looks like there's two of them

>>166418237
no it looks like he did pretty well, didn't even engage

HAHAA

BATBOSS COMES BACK

CONFIRMED SHIT FRAGMENTED DEVELOPMENT

MORE RANDOM LORE AND UNANSWERED SHIT

You shouldn't be able to parry attacks that have hyperarmor, including bosses.

>>166418237
>this weapon is overpowered because it's only beaten by strategies that don't count because I said so

>kukuri instead of actual knives
>it can be done wrong, so it's bad

>>166418323
I don't remember a bat boss in any of the other games unless I'm losing my mind.

I fucking hate pvp in this game.

Every time I invade its a gank squad and every time i'm alone I get invaded by multiple spirits

>my big fuck off hammer bounces off against the wall
>opponent's longsword goes right on through no problem
really makes you think

>>166418470
he's talking about how the soul for an underground bat was in DS3's files. I'm hoping they're also going to bring back Wolnir's chalice covenant

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>>166418063
Interesting

>yfw black phantoms are back just like in DeS

>>166418572
>Wolnir's chalice covenant
Excuse me ?

>>166418063
>>166418282
Nah it's a red phantom. From far away the effect doesn't render the red highlighting very well.

>>166417859
>lands r1
>can combo into another r1
>rolls away
>"I know how to play the game guys"

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Tfw watching Vaati's video

Whoa...

>>166418705
You're excused.

>>166418536
>every time i'm alone I get invaded by multiple spirits
Stop using dried finger.

>>166418394
Parrying should always cost 30% of your total stamina, cost an extra 10% for every parry within 5 seconds of your last parry and landing a partial parry that drains your stamina should put you into the guard break animation like it did in dks 1. Caestus should have slower startup frames.

There, I just completely fixed all of the parry related issues in the game. Medium shields would be relevant again for that stability on parries and caestus shitters would cry for months, win/win situation.

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Holy shit I got so fucking lost!
Finally found my way back up after that spider demon!
I have a few question though: Who was that angelic spider qt?
How can I avenge my 'fire mage prisoner' death?
And finally, do you like my naruto cosplay?

>>166418729
He didn't trust how much poise the guy had so he queue'd up a roll incase the blue tried a followup attack. Luckily all blues are complete and utter retards and the guy didn't even have enough poise to hyper armor through a 2H R1.

>>166418903
> Caestus should have slower startup frames
why
it's already the same shit as small shields and the recovery time is long enough to backstab

>>166418794
I'm not you retard.

>>166415016
please no dex requirement please no dex requirement be full on strength please please please

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>>166418098
>don't engage, walk away and throw knives and dart to be a "good player"
This is the mentality of the average player.

>>166418461
>only beaten by strategies that don't count because I said so
>HE WASN'T DOING IT RIGHT HE'S A BAD PLAYER A GOOD PLAYER WOULD'VE-
if you count being a faggot as a strategy sure. Unless you have an actual alternative..? Keep in mind there's a time limit on duels and they can just you know, walk the fuck away too.

>>166418729
This was right after the GS buff (go figure) and HA "buff" so I was being cautious. I really didn't need to.

Name me some fun pve builds for ds3. Coming back after being burnt out and wanna try something new.

>>166415016
TRUMP CHARACTERS INC

>>166419048
he rolled away after attacking the guy in his recovery frames lmao

>>166419164
>it's already the same shit as small shields
That's exactly the problem. The entire appeal of caestus is the weight and the ability to parry with fists since you can't do that anymore. Why should an item with .5 units of weight be as effective as small shields, the shield type made entirely around having good parries?
>but caestus has shit active frames!
It's the same as medium shield active frames, which are also easy to parry with. If you can't parry with medium shields, you shouldn't be parrying and if you're landing parries easily without even knowing how to parry there's clearly something wrong with caestus parries.

>>166418975
>letting Laurentius die
You just made the whole rest of the game a lot harder on yourself.

>>166419382
>don't engage, walk away and throw knives and dart to be a "good player"
That isn't what I said, what I said was that GS can be beaten by just that

>time limit
The difference is that a "passive faggot" can actually keep attacking whilst being passive. GS users on the other hand are literally just running away from people who're bigger threats.

>>166419645
No no, laurentius is alright. I'm talking about the girl who don't talk. Behind the bars downstair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIrRhs1WxlY

So why do you use purple moss in pvp? Dishonorable.

>>166418773
how much did he steal from here and reddit?

>>166419543
>same window means they're similar
Get hit with r1-r1 and try parrying with a mid, then try with a caestus. They have different options, they aren't worth comparing at all.

>heh, I'll look cool if I say that midshields parries are good
the first half of your post was good and you just blew it

>>166419870
>duel fags
Is this our curse ?

>>166419543
caestus already has a massive downside in having 0 damage reduction and stability
it's fine

you are complaining about a scrublord's parry tool that you can easily backstab or kick to rape their entire stamina bar and hit them with a free combo

So, I guess we won't be seeing what happened to Gwynevere or Ocelotte, won't we...

>>166418063
is that the grey giant?

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>>166419963
everything probably

If this DLC and GOTY version doesn't cooincide with a MASSIVE patch to the game fixing everything and making NG+ good, I'm ditching them forever as multiplats are concerned, I'll stick to the sony exclusives they make

This DLC looks super meh

>>166419870
This is the most autistic thing I've ever seen, honor should only be applied to not using flasks, anything else is fair game and getting upset about that is autistic.

On top of that he doesn't want to openly say but blood moss is what clearly pisses him off more than shitty poison.

>>166419815
Oh, her. Just keep progressing through the game until that thing you picked up starts doing something.

>>166418670
Technically they were there in BB too as the chalice dungeons had enemies that summoned red phantom versions of a few basic mobs and said mobs would pop out of think air and have a red glow to them. If the player defeated the summoner the phantoms would croak too.

I prefer D3 self contained level design. Sure less interconnected zones, but each zone is a maze, and is pretty massive.

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>>166419870
I don't even know what to say

>>166420216
>but each zone is a maze, and is pretty massive.
ha ha ha

>>166420025
>>166420168
>>166420245
His words
>what if there was an orange moss that makes you invulnerable to phys damage, that wouldn't be fun

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>>166419486
gotchu f a m

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>>166419729
But you have to be a good player to beat a greatsword, and that's a way to beat a greatsword?
>a "passive faggot" can actually keep attacking whilst being passive
That's being passive reactive, and if you have nothing to react to then it becomes a draw unless your overwhelming faggotry drives them to suicide.
>the only way to win is not to play
Explains why there are so few good players at least.

>>166420369
>Donald "The Wall" Trump is too big of a name

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I hope they add a nice looking small shield with parry in the DLC

Just looking at all these faggots >>166420424
with a piece of literal shit for a shield makes me sick

What's your opinion on the Cringed City so far?

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>>166419486

>>166419974
You obviously can't third hit parry reliably with medium shield, because medium shields are balanced. They have shit recovery and normal startup frames to balance out the not-complete-shit stability. Parrying with it feels identical to dks 1 parries, which is how it should be. PvP parries should be prediction, not "Press L2 if you see the other player do something and hope it lands"

Caestus has fast enough startup to reaction parry tons of weapons, enough stability to partial parry a 2H greatsword R1 and still have enough stamina to roll away afterwards because lmao40endurance and the low stamina cost on parries, and has fast enough recovery to roll away after a whiffed parry unless the person you're fighting is predicting you so easily that he's 3 steps ahead of you the entire fight. Even after the recovery speed nerf it still has so many advantages for very few disadvantages.

>>166419870
>Willing to do something the community views as cheap just for a win rather than the sport is a good way to get nobody to play with you.
random comment in response to someone using purple moss with low hp

jesus christ

>>166420686
hey, you try and find a dark-coloured small shield that isn't the fucking buckler.

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Got even more lost
Also, I can see you from here, sheep-demon. Eat a dick!

>>166420318
I'll take "what is a shield" for 200 Alex.

>>166420318
What is there was a weapon that always one-shot your opponent? That wouldn't be fun.

We should stop using weapons.

>>166420987
Why are you not using dsfix? or increased the rendering resolution of the game

When Dark Souls III: Prepare the buy the scholars of the first hollow church of londor comes out, what do you think is going to get re-translated? Because certain items have wonky spelling. Like calling what is obviously a branding iron a soldering iron.

Is there a ring tier list for ds3? it seems like theres so much rings exclusively made for PvE.

>>166420216
DS3 levels suffer from shit checkpointing, though. Less bonfires and more physical shortcuts/connections pls.

Also DS3 levels aren't really self contained, DeS levels are self contained, DaS3 is just bad at retaining a good level network.

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Hi. My name is Skra and this is my first build.

I started playing Dark Souls Oct 11, 2016. I wanted to role play this game as a knight for no other reason than I like the way knight armor looks. I realize that there are better defensive options. It seems to me that new players almost always tend to make a Giant Dad and I want to do something different. This build is what I have ended up with.

While learning this game, I realized that the Claymore has TWO thrust attacks: a one-handed thrust attack and a rolling two-handed thrust attack. So, whether I’m one-handing or two-handing my Claymore, the Leo Ring bonus damage would always be available to me. It occurred to me that the Leo Ring would go with my build nicely considering that I'm fast rolling in medium armor.

With Charcoal Pine Resin applied and the Leo Ring counter bonus triggered, my one-handed R2 thrust attack does 820 damage against the Cleric in the Darkroot Garden. My two-handed rolling thrust attack does 836 damage against him. The Leo Ring aside, stabbing the Cleric in the back one-handed yields 884 damage, a two-handed backstab yields 901 damage and Riposte is 1048 damage (I used the Cleric for testing because he heals himself). With the Green Blossom and the Grass Crest Shield regenerating my stamina, I rarely find myself unable to use my rolling thrust attack. It's just always there.

I've read in the forums that the contemporary quality build is 27/40 because of the two-handed bonus for strength, but I wanted to make certain that my one-handed thrust attack did as much damage as efficiently possible because the damage bonus granted by the Leo Ring is percentage based. Also, since my two-handed thrust attack requires rolling, I had to figure out a way to get my equipment burden below 25% so that I could fast roll without being too squishy because my vitality is so low.

So, my first build is finished. This is it. It's my Veteran Knight and I love it.
>http://mmdks.com/8ijr

>>166421120
i was just going to ask for this, thanks for posting it my dude

>>166418536
The fact that the PvP meme has gone on for this long is honestly astounding

>>166421120
>WP still top tier
>No top tier SS

>>166421120
I read all the supposed boons for the flame spear, but I just can't wrap my head around it.

What kind of pyro build is it implying that would result in similar damage to 40/40 refined?

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>>166420212
I wouldn't know, I don't own a PS4.

>>166421450
40/40 int/fth with minimal str/dex to wield it