Gobu edition
Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to MtG aka RNGstone aka Eternal.
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
Card Database/Deck Editor:
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Make a copy to edit your own.
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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
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Search by artists:
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>>166370958
>>166370958
First.
Poll results: Which leader would be the most likely to leave home without wearing any underwear?
107 votes
28% Arisa
17% Isabelle
15% Forte
12% Vania
11% Eris
9% Luna
7% Erika
Bonus poll results: Who would be quicker to learn the joy of cock?
78 votes
53% Grea
47% Anne
New poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12180475
>Get tired of being out-aggro'd
>Switch to Sun Satan
>Face that one nigger still playing Dshift
>>166389679
Thank you for the on-curve Lyrials and Reapers gobu. You are the best tutor a leader could ask for.
Describe them in 4 words or less
>>166389971
Ready to breed lots.
>>166389853
But everyone love elana and d-shift.
shadow killed mid-range
cards are bad designed because i say so
>>166389971
They have appealing breasts.
Do you hear that in the distance? The roars of dragons?
>>166389679
Gobu is the best.
>>166389971
Best friends fuck together.
>>166389971
Me in middle please
>>166389971
tits are too small
>>166381627
chickenscratch but I hope you like it anyways anon
>>166389971
I rather have Luna.
>losing my potential 5-0 to fucking Rogue's Creed memes in T2
>>166390176
There's always that one guy that might as well be playing constructed.
>>166389798
>7% Erika
Why? Erika seems perfect for nopan
>>166390148
Delete this
>>166389790
What a dork
>>166389971
>Erika getting anywhere close those sub-humans.
This is your hand tonight
>>166390324
These are not shadow cards?
>when they play golem and evolve
I know that your hand is shit m8;
omae wa mou shindeiru
Albert! GO! TATATATATA!
>>166390324
Topdik aria, use dogma, izi game, izi life.
>>166389798
isabelle is clearly the kind of haughty bitch that never wears anything underneath
>arisa first
the fuck
>>166390148
Delete this
Unica is pure, PURE!saved
>>166389971
Dem tits looks somehow off but I can't point out why.
>>166390324
Fuck haven
46744
Come get a free win (no concede). I need some packs.
Reminder that Lurching Corpse + Necroassassin is a 6pp combo that requires setup to be pulled early and allows you to kill TWO (2) followers, and that setup can be disturbed fairly easily.
Now here's a really difficult quiz. Who can do that and more 1 or 2 turns earlier?
>when the t5 evolved Albert sticks around
>>166390324
>Implying I ever play Haven
Holy fucking shit why do I have the worst fucking curves playing fucking aggro.
I am losing to garbage like Discard dragon as Aggo bats.
What the fuck.
>>166390542
D-Delete this.
Rune doesn't have any good removal.
>>166390489
Even the firmest tits sag.
Post your loyalty.
>>166390606
Good job
>>166381339
Nice but if I know any Japanese that handwriting is 100% gaijin.
For example り and が should be like in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiZ80uJbubk
>>166390606
You're alright.
>>166390703
>ninfomaniac
o im laffin
>>166390606
That's cute, Anon.You'll get there, I'm proud of you.
>>166390624
Bats isn't T1 anymore so it's automatically shit now.
Oh god which one do I replace? I have 1 Forte and 1 Albert.
>>166390606
>>166390712
I love you guys.
>>166390542
But you don't understand, that combo can kill ANY cards! Doesn't matter if they have 2 defense or 3 defense, so fucking broken.
I want to play discard dragon, even if it's shitty. Dracomancer + Imperial Dragoon looks cool as fuck.
How the fuck am I going to get the vials to play it?
>>166390712
Fuck loyaltyPlay memes
>>166389971
In need of dicks.
>>166390712
The only thing I'm loyal about is not touching the shitstain that is Bloodcraft.
>>166390542
6pp with two cards that remove 2 followers and put a 3 3 body is OP.
>>166390475
Arisa is elf they don't like to wear underwear by culture.
Isabelle is a slut nymphomaniac one (1) drink is enough to fuck her tits.
>>166390712I was on like, a 10-match losing streak. I've lost more with Bats. I'm back to my waifu Luna, at least Bats didn't cost me much.
71660.
Help a nigga out with his dailies.
>>166390624
Bats lose to Dragon in general, dude. Their evos and staple spells board wipe tiny fucks with the greatest of ease, and their new ramp spell even has built in healing. Not to mention how early they can throw a Lucifer at you to invalidate every single one of your turns before they even start.
Aggro being popular is pretty much the only reason Dragon even appears on the ladder and is capable of climbing.
>>166390712
ive been playing for like 2 days and have lost like 3 ranked matches with my shitty seraph deck
>>166390858
You can lick me for crystals.
>>166390858
There's a cheaper version out there that performs better.
>>166390703
Isabelle is a pure maiden, please, stop spreading lies.
t: Kyle
>>166390654
No that's not that. Must be the angle.
>>166391037
>Bats lose to Dragon in general, dude
Dragon doesn't win against anyone.
Post yfw rune don't have enough removal and follower spam fow low cost pp.
>>166391037
>Bats lose to Dragon in general
Nothing loses to Dragon, even Shadow feeds on it.
>>166390712
>>166391102
>three altered fates
>three breath of the salamander
I don't have dick for vials currently, but I am feeling a desire to trash all the cards for a class I don't play to get those 6.
>>166390928
>6pp with two cards that remove 2 followers and put a 3 3 body is OP.
I'd rather have a 6pp destroy all followers on the field.
>>166390976
Cheers, mate!
>>166390712
Started off playing Shadow almost exclusively in ranked. Now that I have more meta decks it looks a lot different.
>>166391231
ramp dragon is actually favorable against daria
>>166391280
Post yfw shadow have an OP as fuck 6pp combo that can remove ANY 2 followers on turn 4.
>>166391426
wtf I hate shadow now
>>166391280
>mfw shadow is the secret t0 because of a 6pp combo that destroys two (2) random enemy followers
>tfw replaced a win 1 as dragon craft and got a pack daily for 6 ranked wins
>>166391420
If by favorable you mean it has a reasonable chance when going second and autoloses when going first sure.
>>166391426
It's so OP and unreliable that hardly anyone even runs it! Wow! I'd rather have a Themis in my handt. shadow player
>Tfw you draw all burn but no mary
>>166391426
>>166391525
Good thing my girl Eris keeps the cancer is check.
She is the hero we need, but not the hero we deserve.
>>166391356
>DoD
>5pp destroy follower + 2 burn
>necro + lunching
>6pp destroy 2 untargetable followers get 1 shadow get 3/3 body
Perfectly balanced.
>>166391487
I can't play this game anymore 6pp removal 2 followers is too much for me.
At least in HS they don't have bad designed cards like that
DRAGONCRAFT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE POPULAR IF IT WASN'T CRY FUCKING BABY ROWEN AS THE LEADER.
HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR MY FUCKING ASS YOU SHITTY DRAGON.
EVEN HAMSA IS A BETTER FUCKING DRAGON THAN YOU.
>>166391319
How do we save Rowen? His kid at home must be thinking her dad is a hero or some sort, not a fucking meme!
Is one Gabriel really necessary for aggro sword?
>>166391684
?
>>166390624
>aggro blood in 2017
it was just a meme that preyed on unrefined decks. play aggro sword if you want to play up to date cancer
>>166391684
I bought forte but ended up using rowen because he's funnier
>>166391742
Hot damn, thanks Anon.
>>166391724
Not at all. Just get cheap followers and followers with storm and you can fucking bodybag people most of the time as long as you draw on curve.
>>166391809
But wait, there's more!
>>166391742
If rowen is only good for memes then Forte is only good for breeding
I bet she whores herself for wins. 1 hole = 1 win and cumming inside is for winstreaks.
>>166391319
well shadow's super broken because they can remove 2 followers for 6pp
It's not really fair to criticize a deck for losing to that.
H-hear the dragon's roar
>>166391897
That's not true. Stop spreading lies.
>>166391684
>Not liking Rowen
Rowen players are literally the most based. Pic related, just played this match
>>166391684
>>166391660
Agree with you man 6PP destroy a gorilion of followers is too much.
>>166391694
>save Rowen
Just buy Forte
>>166391953
Your leader is a cheap whore that sucks Rowen's dragon every night
>>166391670
At least in HS the RNG is not easily controllable so it's not overstated and overpowered like shadow.
>>166391998
I bought forte
It was a waste of 500 rupees. I should have kept meme man and opened 5 packs instead.
>>166392021
But I'm using Rowen.
Funny how shadowfaggots spent the entirety of DE crying about haven like the little bitches they are but now that their idiotic RNG shit has 70% winrate against dragon (way higher than haven ever had against them) they suddenly become passive aggressive cunts about it.
>IT'S OKAY THAT MY IDIOTIC CARDS REMOVE ALL STRONG FOLLOWERS BASED DECKS FROM EXISTENCE BECAUSE PRIEST OF THE CUDGEL (MOST BROKEN CARD EVER CYGAMES PLEASE NERF) BANISHED MY LAST WORDS FOLLOWERS INSTEAD OF BEING FORCED TO TRADE 2 AGAINST ONE TEEHEE
Kill yourselves
>>166391660
>DoD
>5pp destroy follower + 2 burn
>Themis
>6pp destroy everything and keep your board of amulets
>Calamitous
>6pp banish (probably) everything on the other side, keep your board and deny last words
I agree. Make DoD a 6pp destroy every follower and deal 2 burn to the enemy leader for each follower destroyed.
Daily
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>>166392021
>tfw you will never suck rowen's dragon every night
>>166391876
Thanks to you, I can confidently say that there are good people out there in the world. That all?
>>166392028
HS confirmed to be better than SV, how can we even compete?
>>166392091
B-but you need sigils which is a HUGE tempo loss and basically means you've lost.
imagine being this mad about a shit combo no one runs
>>166391201
>>166390489
you're right, Erika's supposed to be something closer to this.
Arisa's left (our left) breast should also start lower but that'd be really annoying to correct, so.
>>166392091
Only designated control classes which are Rune and Haven should have great board clears.
t: Cygames game designer
>>166392143
>That all?
I'm just getting started, my man.
>>166392084
Could you put a trip up already?
>>166392084
>winning against the shittiest class in the game
>somehow that's an achievement
Meanwhile Daria is raping everything.
>>166392084
I hate shadow now rowen don't have enought removal or storm to deal with this OP craft.
>>166392146
SV team should add discover mechanic or things like shredder.
>tfw daria leaves a fairy up
Never underestimate their strength!
>>166391981
>>166392091
>one-sided board wipes are ok
How to spot a hearthstone shitter.
>>166391563
>using mary cards instead of healing grinder cards
you asked for it
>>166392214
they are dragonfags as confirmed by this post >>166392084
can't blame them when their class is utter trash right now, they're just picking on the second worst class since it's the easiest target
Thinking about finally making a treedeck, is Rhinodeck still the best one? post list (?)
>win 1 sword
>win 1 blood
>win 3
>replace 1 sword
>get win 1 rune
>>166392218
Oh yes. I see it anow. Thanks anon.
>>166392282
>>166392305
>>166392306
>This is fine Dragongoyim, you deserve this. Remember the six million banished last words followers!
>>166392084
What doesn't have 70% winrate against dragon?
Dragon vs Dragon is 100% winrate which is ridiculous. No other class ever had 100% against dragon.
>>166392254
Don't keep me waiting.
>>166392519
>Dragon vs Dragon is 100% winrate which is ridiculous. No other class ever had 100% against dragon.
Also has 100% loss rate. No other class ever had 100% against dragon.
>>166392510
>Remember the six million banished last words followers!
Okay I gotta remember that one, that was pretty funny.
Is this general turning into /hsg/?
I myself turned to this game after getting tired of Hearthstone. It is a fun game, don't get me wrong, but the RNG mechanics are too much. But the general is full of angry players full of salt screaming for nerfs every other post. Even though it never was as bad as people said it was. Right now I have the feeling that many other people transferred to Shadowverse as well but they brought all the salt with them.
So let us focus on the fun aspects of the game instead of the salt and pointing the OP finger on everything. Simply do some techs in your deck or use something completely different. I play my version of the PtP forest and it's fun and I even win.
>>166392519
>What doesn't have 70% winrate against dragon?
Everyone that isn't shadowcraft. Nice try, fag
>>166392510
>>166392623
Buff Dragon.
Nerf Dragon.
>>166392643
>turning into /hsg/
But we don't have to wait 40 minutes to read a new shitpost, anon.
>>166392510
The problem is not shadow vs dragon
>>166392643
Is not hs fault, kids just want to whine about """"unfair""" shit even irl card gamers a lot of people blame ''bricking'' and other shit .
Mission Private Match
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>>166392554
Here, have all of them.
http://imgur.com/CUMxipg
>>166392643
this looks like a pasta from reddit
>>166392418
what a horrible existence
>>166389798
vania in first, fucking lolicons
>>166392831
Not him but that made me smile, thanks anon.
>>166392787
>dragon is one of the few crafts with a best winrate going second against rune
>>166392835
talking about reddit is something from HS
>>166392554
>>166392831
>>166392935
Fuck, how does Imgur work? I had a whole album
https://imgur.com/a/YPMbd
I just clicked the copy button lmao
>>166392643
Consider the amount of tattas and lolis posted here. Not really.
>>166392835
Every time someone uses words like "Let us do X" like they are talking to a "community", you can tell it's plebbit.
>get 18 dmg with 3x PtP
>opponent drops Bahamut
>sets off his 4 Hare of Illusions
>>166392831
I need help identifying whether or not this streamer is a male or a female.
>>166392992
What was your opponent doing at 20 health.
>>166392787
>Comparing general winrates instead of specific decks
The average shadowfag (but even with the general winrates you can get a good idea of how hopeless the dragon vs shadow matchup is compared to everything else)
>Hahaha I know Haven is raping your asses non-stop after DE hit but the problem is with your class, it's problematic, just stop playing shadow :^)
>>166391684
>HAMSA
Don't talk shit about Hamsa, he was GOAT in the RoB animu
>>166392990
4chan is not a community or something?
>>166392990
Loliposting is not okay
>>166392980
wew lad
where do you even find so much fanart for this game, google search is woeful
Is there a good silver bolt deck out there?
>>166393016
Sorry, forgot picture.
>>166393065
Shadow vs Dragon is bad for dragon.
but is hard to deny how bad dragon is doing this expansion
>>166393162
4chanand pixiv
>>166393162
Just look for Granblue and Rage of Bahamut shit. Cygames reuses characters and art for Shadowverse.
>>166393175
you run standard roach and then throw in 2x wolves and either two bolts or two homecomings, in place of the selwyn's and goblins.
>>166393162
>>166393175
It's more of a tech for roaching.
>>166393240
>Haven vs Shadow is bad for shadow.
>but is hard to deny how bad shadow is doing this expansion
>Take old forest deck to unranked for daily
>Have to fight some daria netdeck
Seriously? Come on
>>166393049
I'm new with PTP
Can you get a cuter opening hand?
>>166393235
I bet in male.
>>166392997
>Climbing with smurf
>Can't stop finding Darias on fucking C0
>Insta concede on two of them, since I am only playing for the dailies
>Decide to go to unranked
>Another Daria
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>le gobu XDXDX
kill yourselves
>>166393316
>but is hard to deny how bad shadow is doing this expansion
Are you the same guy saying that shadow was bad in DE because is a bad craft and not Haven?
>>166393450
>smurfing in CCG
For what purpose?
>>166393452
>typing lettrs
fck that nois
>>166393360
Yes, Bellringer x3
>>166393360They were in my starting hand but I can't find the original screenshot
>>166393452
>>166393096
Yes, but you don't really use "let's" but rather "do it"
>>166393528
Not really smurfing. I am actually just using that account to play decks I am in no condition of playing on my main.
>>166393065
>chose one deck
>the card game is shit because 1 deck is good against another
We can do it all day here with gorilions of decks around.
>>166393486
No, those were the shadowfaggots who cried non-stop from the beginning of DE until the very end of the expansion. What, are you going to pretend that's not exactly what happened now?
What's the drop rate on animated legendaries? 0.1% or something? Been rerolling and haven't seen even one yet.
I MISS MY OLD MID FOREST DECK
BRING BACK DE
ROB WAS A MISTAKEElana, Haven and Seraph were mistakes too
>>166392980
>You have good taste in girls
>xoxoxo,
>/svg/ anon
I'll never forget the kindness you've shown me today. I'll do my best to spread the good word of Forte.
>>166393785
It's around 1 out of 8 packs
81550
need a concede
>>166393669
dragon is doing better than shadow in DE desu
>>166393925
That's for any legendary. He is asking for animated ones.
>>166393648
Agreed, the game was pretty good back when haven cucked shadow out of existence. In fact I hope they get 50 new banishment cards next expansion so that RNGcraft can stay in the trashcan where it belongs.
>>166393925
your math is off, retard
Fortunehunter Feena facts:
1) She's beautiful
2) She's powerful
3) She's cute to boot
4) Friends with Goblin Mage
5) She blows enemies away with bow
>>166394065
I hope we get several different amulet banish and destroy next expansion so haven cancer can fuck off
>>166394079
6) She knows that running away is okay
>>166393942
thanks rowen
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>>166393982
Shadowcraft never, ever had a <30% winrate against haven, its greatest counter, like dragon has against shadow currently. But of course we are going to start rewriting history now.
>lose to a card
>come to hsg
>"this card is op wah wah"
>>166394079
Running away is o-kay!dub>sub
i fucking love my deck
it feels like a strong archetype that isn't perfectly optimal with a bit of homebrew and neutral leggos thrown in mostly because they're the only ones I have like a kid would with a physical TCG deck, though I guess baha is always good for control/ladder. and it fucking shits on daria most of the time
that's all I wanted to say, s-sorry
>>166394079
More facts:
You are a dubcuck and you should kys
>>166393805
indeed.
so many people quiting cuz of Daria only meta.
we are in big trouble if this continues for another 2 months.......
>>166394065
>>166394110
I hope there's a 2 drop that makes vengeance permanently active no matter what and they release super-mini goblinmage who's a 1pp 0/1 that tutors a 2-drop.
>You will never be this mad about a class that has a 11% playrate
>>166393235
Ugly female or an okay looking tranny. Hard to tell.
>>166394110
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOW COME HAVEN GETS TO HAVE 60% WINRATE AGAINST ME, IT'S NOT FAIR
>Now, it's totally fair that my class gets to have 70% winrate against dragon, everyone knows that class is bad anyway :^)
Kill all shadowfaggots
>>166393785
And the moment I ask I get 2 on the reroll. maybe I'll get 3 on legos I need next time. But in any case, it's fucking low chance to get them animated yes? Back to praying.
>>166394262
>seraph
kys
>>166394079
she's not that cute at all, actually one of the least cute cards
weird face/eyes, dumb hair, literally no ass
>>166391560
>hardly anyone even runs it!
Why would you lie?
>>166394079
I like her english voice better, it has more personality.
>>166394349
Literally no one likes you cancerous faggots and with good reason because all of you act like gigantic cunts.
Haven is easily the most cancerous class in the game and I hope we get more cards to fuck over idiots like you in the next expansions.
do i need altered fates in PtP dirt?
>>166394110
Is so good when retards like you don't work in cygames
>>166394349
>doing the same thing desu baka
haven apologists need to neck themselves
once cancer always cancer
>>166394497
Thighssassin is bad in Nepdeck, Lurching is bad in aggro. Anything else?
>>166394570
Its okay, I'm going to send them mass emails asking for counters to haven
Look forward to more banish cards next expansion
>>166394110
>make cheap amulet removal/banish
>dire bond,ptp,dirt rune is unplayable
>everything but haven is nerfed because the craft can deal with it
>>166394408
>no ass
>>166394606
I'll take rune any day of the day. People running daria know their deck is cancer.
Haven cunts unironically think their decks are totally okay and that they're not cancer
>>166394546
I don't even play haven, in case it wasn't obvious enough I play dragon. I just wish it comes back even stronger next expansion so your RNG class stays buried forever. Did I make myself clear this time?
>>166394809
>implying you need to play shadow to put dragon in the trash where it belongs
lamo
>sword player
>still using maid leader, aurelia and floral fencer
>>166394765
What expression is this face trying to convey?
>>166394548
>>166394548
One or two at most. Usually you only want to altered fate if your hand is really bad or you are searching for a specific answer. Other than that you will most likely be keeping it just to push for the final shadows when you need.
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>>166391102
>>166391354
GOD DAMN IT
>>166394971
>aurelia
You mean the best ward in the game?
>shadow is annoying because muh RNG removals
>haven gets a double RNG removal in 1 card, but it's fine because it's haven!
Is Daria the most broken deck to ever come out in Shadowverse or Hearthstone? It has a 60+% winrate against nearly every deck/class in the entire game if it goes second. There is no counter to a deck that is full of burn spells and removal that does damage to face, along with the best cycle in the game.
>>166394809
>some people are this mad
Don't put dragon players in disgrace baka
>>166394993
A mixture of embarrassment and excitement, maybe? It's a pretty common thing.
>>166395038
wew lad
>>166395053
That would be frontguard, swordboy.
why the fuck do i get first 90% of the time when i play rune?
>>166395091
Yeah, when you can fill your board with 3+ cost minions on turn 4 from an empty board while clearing your opponents board there is something wrong.
>>166395073
>implying people defend tribunal
RoB added a ton of terrible RNG or overpowered cards. It was most definitely way worse than DE and did nothing good for this game.
>>166395153
Khawy is way better.
>>166395053
b-but she gets killed by the shadow meanies
>>166395186
Everyone on the ladder is rune, you answered your own question.
>>166395116
>Non-dragon player pretending to represent anything
Fuck off.
>>166391102
i don't like dragon warriors there, your evo points are too split across the Eyfas and Feenas.
>crybb time
see you later folks
>>166394971
>cuts maidleader
>loses steam versus other control decks
>wonder why they can't beat Haven/Dirt
>cuts Aurelia
>his mother stops loving him as a human being
Life is wonderful
>>166395307
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH A SHADOW BULLIED MY TRASH DECK IN RANKED
I WANT THEM ALL NERFED
>>166395307
Bring back cuteposters.
Vania touched my penis.
>>166395390
>>166395374
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH A HAVEN BULLIED MY TRASH DECK IN RANKED
>I WANT THEM ALL NERFED
Kill all shadowfaggots
>>166395245
>Everyone on the ladder is rune
how the fuck does this answer anything retard
>>166395325
>1/1 follower with cycling will help keep steam
Not sure if serious
>all this mad at havenbased
we know who really runs this game
>>166395545
Literally no one likes haven
>>166395545
enjoying tier3?
>>166395545
All I see is one autist throwing a hissy fit about Shadow, and he doesn't even play Haven.
>>166395545
>>166395390
>cuteposters
>post worst girl
Oh the irony.
>>166395505
Oh, I'm sorry, you didn't know? Rune always goes second.
>>166395575
I do.
>>166395597
>>166395583
>>166395575
>3 immediate buttblasted replies
I rest my case
get fucked
>>166395687
Yeah, the retarded meme posters like you
>>166395575
I like Haven
>>166395545
>tfw haven is the same as catholic church misunderstood by heretics
Why are turn 7 Dshifts allowed?
>>166395721
>Act retarded
>Get called out on retardation
>Hahaha I was only pretending get fucked nerds!!!!
Sure, whatever you say
>>166395721
t. tier 3
Vania touched my wee wee
>>166395803
>y-you're retarded because I got h-hurt by based haven
your tears make my seraph softer
>>166395727
Stay mad.
>>166395038
I should play my nep deck more if it makes retards this mad
Looks like many asses were necroassassinated today
Prime example why nobody likes Haven right here.
Remenber if you slow Elana will be back
>>166395597
>and he doesn't even play Haven.
And despite that, shadowfaggots naturally revert to crying about haven anyway. It's practically a defense mechanism of their victim mentality at this point.
Can someone post a good shadow deck? Nep is literally unplayable, I just want to get my wins for daily
>>166395940
>running thighsassin in Nep decks
>>166395507
>late game
>can't get their value commanders because the deck ins't thinned out/no maids to fetch them
Very nice.
>>166395995
Dorothy forever
Get fucked havencancer
>>166395940
>Nep
>Necroassassin
A-are you okay? Are you intentionally trying to get bad Nep pulls?
>>166395995
You spelled DShift wrong.
>>166396046
word
>>166396046
But isn't Haven has a favored matchup against Daria Rune?
>>166395325
>1/1 2 cost tempo loss that brings one single card, which means you lose deck space to call a random card that could have come anyway if you didn't had a goddamn maid clogging your hand
>x/6 ward that only benefits against weak aggro decks and requires evo points to be actually useful when you could use it to deal a killing blow with albert without having to resort to Olivia
This is why sword players can't win shit. They still haven't realized the new tempo meta of RoB.
>>166395995
Get slower and Dimension Shift will be back
>>166396139
that's why they're so mad
now you get it
>>166396046
Yes, keep feeding me those wins Dariafriend.
>>166396139
How is it favored?
You win before they can themis and if they do you just refill your board
>>166395782
Because turn 6 PtP exist.
>>166396176
>>166396210
>petrify
get fucked havencancer
>fall fot the shadow aggro is good meme
>lose to bats
>lose to dorothy
>never get the cards I need in time
>draw my 5pp cards on the first turns
>miss lethal with howl by 1 point because I had 4 instead of 5 shadows
And then I remembered why I should play a real aggro deck and not this shit craft.
>>166395995
Elana will never be back because Seraph has way better control options now.
>3PP do nothing
>Good
>>166396294
D-Delete this.
Rune doesn't have removal.
>>166396149
If I could bet every ass in /svg/ on the fact that you do not play Sword at all or is stuck at AA2 or someshit like that I would.
>>166396172
There's just no winning
What happens if you have a ding dong with bane?
>>166396294
rune don't have good removal 6pp 2 cards are better than anything
>>166396379
Daria is too cute to not be a good card every time
>>166395782
Because you aren't using your noggin and OTKing them before then. :^)
Would attach webm of double Wildfang double Altered Fate killing them turn 6 but fuck the potato net here.
>>166396407
Anything that attacks ding dong dies.
Bane takes effect no matter how much or how little damage is dealt.
I thought too hard and ran out of time.
Could I have won the match with this hand? Third roach was still in the deck and readily available to be pulled by Goblin Mage.
>>166396453
I love this one
>>166396310
>>miss lethal with howl by 1 point because I had 4 instead of 5 shadows
Yeah, that's completely the deck's fault, not yours.
>14 match win streak finally ends
>dragon next match
thanks rowen, always there when I need you
>>166396490
>Anything that attacks
You can attack with 0 attack followers, too.
>>166396496
Gob gob snipe bounce roach x3 (5+6+7)
>>166396484
>turn 6
Too slow. You need to kill them before they can evolve.
>>166396663
Reporting for duty
>>166396496
Yeah play gob, gob, snipe, roach, nature played roach, roach, roach
Should be 4+6+7+1 from snipe for 18
>>166396496
Yes, this is easily lethal on a lot of ways.
>>166396597
It is if the only decent storm card I have also requires 4 shadows.
>>166396310
>>miss lethal with howl by 1 point because I had 4 instead of 5 shadows
Yes the problem is the same of that shadowplayer playing mordecai on t8 instead of a death's breath.
>>166396496
How was this hard? Gobu, Gobu, snipe face (1), bounce, roach x2 (5/6/7)
>>166396496
>I thought too hard and ran out of time.
what the fuck is there to even think about? literally the only choice you have there is goblin, goblin, snipe, guidance, roachx3 which is fucking lethal
I will let you win a private match.
43054
>>166396310
>>166396597
>>166396716
>>166396824
>tfw not smart enough to play aggro shadow
>>166396496
ez 19 face
I want to smell Forte's armpits
>6 games in a row I get turn 4 Levi + Piercing rune by a Daria deck
I really don't want to be salty but this is bullshit
>>166396702
Based Dragon leaving newts on the board because they do nothing for the first half of the match.
>>166396991
don't play shadow in general unless you want to trigger rowen
>>166397065
haven is the real problem, it ruins the meta by shitting on daria shitters
>>166396496
gobu, gobu, snipe, roach, bounce, roach roach (1+4+6+7)
remember when you are doing this your standard combo is roach, bounce, roach, roach at 7pp.
So your standard combo on turn 7 does 8 damage +3n (n being the number of zero costs played up to 3 zero costs because your board would be flooded). on turn 8 you can play an additional 1 cost that will give you an additional 3 damage.
>>166396496
You thought too hard because you were thinking about the 2nd Nature's when it was not even needed.
Why are there no good Shadowverse streamers?
>>166397065
Its expected, I cry every time I go first against Daria. No board left after she evolves that motherfucker.
Dorothy is literally the most consistent deck in game right now. Various aggro/control decks are being phased in and out, but Dorothy remains consistently broken.
>>166396496
3 roaches = 6 damage for 6 pp
2 roaches + guidance = 8 damage for 7 pp
Every other card played= +3 damage
You had 2 0 pps and 2 pps so that's 12 damage + 3 roaches = 18 damage for 6 pp
I'm not even a roachshitter and I have this shit memorized.
I fucking hate roachshitters.
>>166392367
Wouldn't have mattered if you played the combo right, it was 12 from hand.
Can someone post a proper aggro shadow deck. I wanna see the list so that I wanna know what I'm fighting with.
>>166397395
Just themis bro
>>166397241
>>166396759
You don't bounce roach idiots
left is better, yeah?
>>166397402
>Every other card played= +3 damage
I don't understand this one.
>>166397524
>Gets a full board + Daria
>Themis in hand
>Ayy turn 5
>tfw too anxious to queue at anything
>end up playing practice matches vs bots
HELP I FEAR DEFEAT
>>166397482
Sure, but there's many variations of them, some more oriented on burn than others. Expect to get Demonic Strikes to the face and stay away from the 11 hp because you're gonna get howled for 11 damage.
>>166397597
you play cards prior to dropping 3 roaches
that +1 adds to 3 damage contributed per card.
>>166397597
Each roach gets +1 damage for each card played before
You're always playing roaches last, so every card played is +3 damage total
>>166397610
A saying from Go applies. "Lose your first 100 games as soon as possible."
>>166397610
D rank players are usually easier than bots.
>>166397641
>tfw this is cheap af
>Still lack 3 phantom howls and 2 cerbs
>>166397794
this
I was amazed
>>166397684
>>166397728
Wait.
Example I play Fairy then Roach. How is that +3 damage?
>>166396496
You have 19 with snipe
>>166396906
>>166396919
>>166397269
I red ringed, panicked,played both Goblins and bounced them both back with Nature's Guidance, Angelic Sniped face and then didn't have enough mana to play all three roaches. He lived with 4hp.
>>166397827
You could always buy the preconstructed Shadow deck.
How do you go from this
>>166397851
>I play fairy then Roach Roach Roach
ftfy.
>>166397582
Yes
Vania touched my willy
>>166397851
>no fairy
>1+2+3 damage
>fairy
>2+3+4 damage
>>166397923
To this?
>>166397794
>>166397839
this is probably true right up until B/A rank, when you start encountering people dumber than bots, but smart enough to netdeck.
>Finally stopped worrying and built a neutralcraft deck for every class
I am free
someone have a nep deck? i saw that nep mid range was tier 2.
>>166398085
you got memed
>>166397927
>>166398028
Ah you guys meant if you had x3 Roaches.
I was only thinking like if you had x2 Roaches. Because x3 Roaches usually doesn't happen that much.
>>166398085
You forget to change your image into a .png and make it 4 MB for one
>>166398121
This is what I'm currently running, but consider it a control deck and don't believe the Gameai tier lists.
>>166396496
totally easy just goblin + goblin + angelic snipe + NG goblin+ 3 roach will be 5,6,7 attack total of 19 damage
>SPELLboost
>boost your followers with followers
>boost your spells with followers
>boost your followers with spells
>boost your spells with spells
how is that even a mechanic? it's just brute synergy
oh and the class has another mechanic in earth sigils
rune is balanced
reeeeee
>>166398203
>x3 Roaches usually doesn't happen that much.
Please tell me you're not a roachshitter
>>166397597
>Step 1: Identify strongest roach combo and pp cost
Since you're at 8pp, best you can do is Roach Roach Roach. 6 damage, 6pp, 2pp to play with
>Step 1.5, identify how hard the combo scales
Roach*3 has 3 roaches, so every card played beforehand is +3 damage, for example roach+bounce+roach+roach is also +3 per card, whereas roach+bounce+roach+bounce+roach+roach is +4 per card
>Step 2: Identify the way to vomit the most cards with the pp you have available
2pp means you can do Gobu Gobu Bounce Snipe, 4 cards played
>Step3: 2+2
Combo(6) + Cards beforehand(4) * Scaling(3) = 18
Snipe is +1
19 total
This only gets difficult when there are wards involved.
I am seriously ""this"" close to making a flowchart for you people
>>166398252
bro runes don't have enough removals to deal with anything.
and they can't spam followers toosource /svg/
>>166398203
Usually with the combo you need 2 roaches and a natures guidance at 7, each 0 cost card played before you do your combo will give you +3 damage to your combo. You don't really bank on getting all 3 roaches though.
>Win a match with shadow
>Win a match with haven
>Win a match with dragon
>Replace dragon
>Win 4 matches with rune or blood
I feel like the game intentionally gives you dailies for classes you don't play.
>>166398326
Make the flowchart. Makes your explanation much easier to understand because there's visuals.
>>166398085
Piercing Rune + Piercing Rune + Crimson Sorcery, but don't worry Daria always bricks :^)
>>166397241
you don't bounce roach if you have 3 roach
>>166398326
Basically this but its outdated.
Will Daria ever go out of style? Tired of this fuckin deck
>>166398252
Just make a goddamn budget aggro deck for all classes.
My PTSD is fucking triggered right now. I thought this was RoB not DE.
Fuck aggro shadow, fuck it so much.
I love it when I pick specifically the lowest curve deck in the game and then my controlcuck opponent lucks into drawing their earlygame anyway and beats me. By which I mean I hate it. Every card game is like this, there's no reason to go for RNG mitigation during the deckbuilding phase when you can use your "high skill cap xD" to mitigate RNG, just look at tempo rune which is allowed to be higher powered because "it bricks" which isn't a major drawback for expert players...
I don't want to play fucking candyland hoping my boardwipes/dorothys/whatever landed in the correct positions after the reshuffle, and yet that's the only playstyle that's ever supported
>>166398421
>I only play rune
Lol
>>166398568
No, it can't be countered so it will only go out of style if it's nerfed.
>>166398326
i think the less autistic method is to just count the cards and remember which numbers are roaches.
>>166398576
what would that even accomplish, I can only play one at a time
I play haven anyway :^) still mad tho
>>166398630
I don't play rune.
>>166398670
meant to quote>>166398421
anyone have that pic of dragoncraft with "what i played, what i expected, what i got"?
>>166398630
>>166398421
I'm retardedplease don't bully
What are the most fungooddecks?
Is seraph haven fun? Is it still viable? I don't have a real deck
>>166398604
>I don't want to play
then don't play you frustrated little boy-chan~
>>166398230
How does it do on ladder?
>First game: going first against Daria
>Second game: going first against Daria
>Third game: going first against Daria
JUST END THIS
>>166398783
The most fun decks are all memes.
>>166398783
haven will always be viable thanks to DE
concede please
92318
>>166398783
>Is seraph haven fun? Is it still viable?
Swap Elana for real control cards and you are good to go
>>166398838
Still climing through AA0 at a steady pace, does surpisingly well against Daria and demolishes OTK roach with wards. It only struggles against aggro blood but those are a rare sight right now.
>>166398742
please help
>>166397871
First you should think like this. First play all the 0 pp, and when you have 3 roach always leave 6pp for combo so current pp - 6pp= 2pp is what you should be using in between. Then make board space for 3 roach. Now shit all the 1 pp stuff down that doesn't interfere the 3 roach
Is this list good? Just a netdeck, but I'd like some input
>>166398783
Pure Seraph is very good and fun.
Roach tips for scrubs
1 roach 1 NG 2-1-2 5pp
2 roach 1 NG 2-1-2-2 7pp
1 roach 2 NG 2-1-2-1-2 8pp
It's fucking easy. And you shouldn't use 3 roaches in same turn. Use 1 early.
>>166398742
>>166399056
you could just look through the other thread
>>166398973
Thank you Luna!
>>166399076
Replace killer devils with midnight vampire, take 1 brick lancer off and use mastema instead.
>>166398783
seraph is fun as hell honestly, and as a bonus you get to drink the tears of dariashitters
>>166399076
Replace killer devil with goblin mage so you dont run out of card and potentially get yurius and vania for turn 4 evolve.
>>166392084
how to fix shadow
>khawy now heals for 2hp
>khawy now auto deletes random follower instead of strongest
>mordecai is 9p
fixed, now shadow is balanced
>>166398435
>>166398561
Here, this is a simplified version and has everything you need to figure out step 1
There will be cases where a 6pp combo will be better than an 8pp combo but I trust you can figure out when to use what before I finish this thing, which may be somewhere between next week and never depending on my time schedule
>>166399560
>mordecai is 9p
Hahahahaha holy shit delete yourself
>>166399549
>>166399238
oh gee, which one do i do?
And only one mastema? I'd have to craft it which kind of sucks, but I can manage I suppose
>>166399560
>now shadow is balanced
it already is
literally the only bullshit card it has is khawy, and it's in a shitty """"""""control"""""""" deck
>>166398783
Control decks in general are fun to me
except elana-seraph, just heal until you can drop seraph
>>166399238
>t.d0
>>166398326
I dont get why you multiply the scaling and card beforehand? How come its multiply and not added?
>>166390712
I post my loyalty of never playing Forest.
Shadow is cancer now
>>166399745
isn't every control deck ridiculously expensive though
>>166399725
Midnight devil isn't that strong and you wouldn't want to get rid of any lancers. They're too good on turn 6.
>>166399865
basically
I main control blood and sword, i have exactly 0 vials right now because i just crafted the only two legos i was missing
>>166399725
Dont craft mastema if you dont have it. Its not that good desu and i have 2 and dont use them.
Is there any deck that prefers going first to going second? The +1 evo and card just seems to be such big advantage.
>>166399659
you mad lich cuck?
Haven is the new honorable craft now shadow is cancer
>>166400019
Aggro bats maybe.
Generally I prefer going second, even if it's only to keep Rune from getting a third Crimson Sorcery.
@166400096
>haven
>honorable
Doesn't even deserve a (You)
>>166399808
>Each card played before a combo that involves playing 3 roaches is +3 damage
You take the cards played beforehand and each ones increases it by 3 ergo you multiply
Or to literally spell it out for you:
>Combo has you play 3 roaches, Each card beforehand buffs each roach by +1, so end result is each card buffs damage by +3
Gobu(+3), Gobu(+3), bounce(+3), snipe(+3+1), combo(6 starting) = 3+3+3+3+1+6 = 4*3+1+6 = 19
>>166400019
Having 1pp more than enemy in the entire match?
>>166400019
Aggro shadow, aggro decks in general and ramp dragon
>>166400096
what a meta we live in.
>>166392787
>Dragon beats rune and haven if going second
Is dragon i dare say, "our guy"?
so what's a good way to switch around the 1st/2nd turn imbalance?
it's obvious that cygames needs to account for it, should they balance cards around it or mess with how it works?
>>166400019
Literally only aggro blood and aggro shadow.
>>166400019
Aggro blood maybe? Probably because the third evo shouldn't even matter
>New to the game
>start ranked
>bottom ranks, duh
>keep getting destroyed by insane combos
I mean I'm still learning but fuck I got exodia'd by Heavencraft
>>166400019
aggro decks and that's it. Shadow, Blood, and to a lesser degree Sword.
>>166400253
Ramp still has a higher winrate going second.
>>166400279
any craft gains a huge advantage over daria when going second because of levi
>>166400096
everything is cancer
haven is the only PURE
>>166399982
what's control blood like?
>>166398783
I'm not sure whether it's good or no but I can only have fun with Dirtrune now.
I wish midrange weren't dead so I can play midshadow.
>>166400347
>>166400329
>>166400253
>>166400179
Thanks, was trying to figure out what deck I could play since I seem to only be going first today.
>Some fuck is still assblasted over shadow and shitposting about both
wew lad
>>166400470
what is dirtrune?
>>166400356
For some reason I found Beginner tier to be much harder than D0. Make an aggro deck to keep your games fast and you'll be facing shitters in no time
>>166400246
evo points basically sum up to 4pp use, but it's not just that there's also the matter of evo effects.
>>166400356
Take a look at Mordecai,Neph and Prince of Darkness every newplayer find these cards op.
>>166400398
You're right, it is PURE cancer.
how to fix runecraft:
>levi is now +1+1 evolve, crimson is 2p
>daria is 4/4
wow how cum cygames doesn't just hotfix this shit LOL
>almost get ambush memed on by someone with a near perfect curve
>even cyclone blades my entire field at one point then draw albert next turn
>could have reduced me to 2 hp but killed a bat instead
>top deck razory claw and win
Outskilled
>>166400398
I don't know about that, Shrine Knight Maiden gives me very impure thoughts.
>>166400470
>I wish midrange weren't dead so I can play midshadow.
I miss him so much.
>>166400571
I'm convinced he's false flagging to make people hat dragon or something.
>>166400586
>this pic
Enhance effects usualy are understatted desu
>>166400573
Rune deck that uses Earthrite Sigils.
Killer Devil vs Midnight Vampire vs Goblin Mage in aggro bats
please help ;_;
>>166400573
A rune deck that makes use of Earth rites.
Here's what've been using to climb AA2.Not that anon by the way
Which leader has the wettest pussy
>>166400598
>>166400584
What would be the best leader/theme to actually learn though?
I'm using Runecraft and Shadowcraft only so far, getting used to the pace and effects of the later
>>166400586
if this was enhance (3) this would be usable in aggro
>shadow players lurching corpse
So literally my board is now forever doomed because of it
I kill it, I lose my board
I let it live, he will just combo with his shit
How is this fair
>>166400571
>>166400690
Bro shadow is OP rune is rally weak without good removal
>>166400821
You'll want to learn everyone if only to know what they're capable of.
Do the story mode.
surrender to otomeme
84298
>>166400764
Goblin mage because that shit is broken.
>>166400868
Time to story mode then, I'm trying to get one more win for a daily mission though
>>166400764
I run Goblin Mage, but honestly all three are probably decent enough picks.
>>166400690
Well, I mean people shitposted about buff shadow, and shadow's in an alright spot all things considered when the new expac came in.
Maybe he's just trying to repeat the pattern for dragon. (even though there shitposts to buff dragon before RoB)
>>166400843
>rush
>+2/+2
>when Keen Enchantment already exists
>which nobody uses
Nah, it really wouldn't.
>>166400821
>newplayers
Sword is pretty fucking easy but you should taka a look at aggrobat since is cheap and strong
am I the only one who finds Arisa's VA incredibly annoying?
>>166400636
http://usamin.love/card/shrine_knight_maiden/e_summon.wav
http://usamin.love/card/shrine_knight_maiden/e_death.wav
Femdom isn't even my thing but damn.
>>166400436
Not pictured: 3 Revelation, 2 Temptress vamp
Still unsure about erinyes, and replace her with 2 Queen vamp
It's a really fun deck, you need to play around with your own health constantly to get vengance secondary effects, and mary combos can be pretty strong
Quoting another anon: "Playing against control blood is like a multi stage boss fight, they hit 10 HP and the second phase starts"
>>166400978
rush is much more important than +2/+2
>>166401008
*gasp*
Fight me without surrendering, pls. 11255
>>166400657
people were using him last jap tournament
>>166399612
Actually I need to put this because people will fuck these up if I don't
>>166400849
just themis bro
>>166401023
h-hot
>>166400778
How is the Erasmus card? I've been teching in 2 Anne and GUUUUUUUU-rea lately and she's been doing some serious work late game.
I also suggest you think about cutting out price of magic and putting in Gobbu instead.
>>166401008
You just gotta let it grow on you.
>>166401037
for decks that contest board maybe.
>>166401037
Why would you want Rush in aggro? Are you going to trade them to death?
>>166401030
>"they hit 10 HP and then you burst.OTK them to death"
fixed for the current meta
there is literally no reason to go face as seraph vs elana
why am I so fucking dumb, I mean I just started playing this shit and it was my first elana shitter but it took me a solid 4 turns to have this revelation
>>166400978
You'd mostly just use it to protect your Yurius.
>>166401159
>>166401147
Yeah I don't expect aggro to use it
but it is pretty good for getting all those big lategame bodies blood has
>>166401229
that's why im considering 2 queen vamps
It's still really good against Daria tho
Only 2 legendaries I'd like to have now are Prince of Darkness and a second Odin. Which packs should I buy?
Gobu and Feena were a mistake.
>>166400849
>opponent plays a card
wtf am I supposed to do
fix this shit game cygames
>play any shadow deck that isnt aggro
>brick
NICE CLASS
>>166400971
I like how Morde and Cerb are always treated as Luna's parents in these images.
>>166401403
DE for Odin.
Better craft Satan because chances of getting him from buying packs is relatively low.
>>166401472
card is literally "banish or lose a follower, and maybe even 2"
>>166400849
>>166401487
>play any deck that isn't aggro
>brick
Fixed
ROACH ME NOW MOTHERFUCKER!
I don't see myself playing dragon or sword but i can't bring myself to destroy the cards
;_; send help i have a problem
>>166401385
i used to be 2x queen camp until i got 3x
now it's way too important to have a queen by t7-t9 in this meta, so go for that 3rd one, you need that consistency
Is it worth crafting a gabriel?
>>166401146
Erasmus has saved me quite a bit honestly, I really think it might be a 2-of type of card. Early game I use it to remove things like Ancient Elf, sometimes a GoblinMount or just as a turn 3 removal when I don't have anything to drop.
Late game he's okay against decks that ran out of steam and don't have big followers, since you can just play him for 9pp, get a body and remove something with 5hp.
I will give Anne and Gobbu a go, thanks for the advice!
>>166401487
>play aggro shadow
>opening hand is skeleton fight, Cerberus and DoD
great deck
great craft
How do Bloody Mary and Azazel interact with eachother? Let's say both players were at 20hp, with Mary on board already, blood player drops down Azazel, does Azazel first reduce the enemy to 10 and then damages him from 10 from the Mary effect or does he take 10 damage from the effect and then takes 0 damage from Azazel?
>>166401558
>This kills the knight
>>166401487
>play aggro shadow
>brick as well or just get outaggrod by real aggro decks
CAN YURIUS BE REMOVED ALREADY.
OR AT LEAST MAKE HIM 1-2.
What should I be aiming for in a PTP Forest mulligan
>>166400849
I just ram a 2-drop into it.
>>166401558
I hate this card so much
>>166401603
Dirt is greatly favored against roach
would a 2/1/2 Officer with "While this is in your hand, if a Commander would be destroyed or drop below 1 HP, negate it and instead discard this card." be broken?
>>166401669
You should be aiming topick a better deck
>>166401653
Lmao Yurius is trash just don't play minions.
>>166401627
otk
>>166401669
A better deck
>>166401487
>Play shadow
>t2 Lurching Corpse
>I'm literally unstoppable right now, my opponent can't even try to compete with my complete and total dominance of the board
>>166390148
saved
>>166401051
I am most greatful.
>>166401669
faerie generators
>>166401603
>0 cost homecoming
>Proceed to do roach combo
Get memed son
>>166401603
I run WotF for these scenarios.
>>166400849
>still crying about this
>>166401603
I fucking hate roach.
Roach really needs to get its cost increased to 3.
>>166401735
that is why I am playing it
>>166401741
>9/8 Aurelia
>They ram everything they have and use all their resources to kill her
>Kek no m8, get ready to lose half your health
>>166390148
God bless anon.
>>166401767
>play t2 Lurching corpse
>opponent literally cannot do anything in fear of losing ANY 2 of his followers
>just hit face for 20 turns
>win
Shadow was a mistake.
>>166401487
>play shadow
>do a 6pp combo that kills 2 enemy followers and leaves a 3/3 on the board
>truly a combo that gives themis a run for its money
>get my free win
heh, easy game
>>166401605
If you're really set on not playing a certain class, just do it. It's worth the vials. Wouldn't recommend doing it for too many classes, though, because that will make it hard to do dailies.
I just want to reroll for hours, I don't think I even like this game. What's wrong with me
>>166401872
When you make suggestions like this "please remove the card that is holding up an entire class" you need to buff the class in other areas to make up for losing that.
>>166401653
nerfing yurius would break control/midrange blood's back way too hard
if you want aggro bat nerfs then ask for vania to be +1+1 on evolve
imo a large part of how crazy aggrobat/rune is because they broke the rules with levi/vania
>>166401627
if you're lower than 10hp you'll heal so Mary doesn't proc
If you're at 15hp you'll get 5 dmg on yourself so Mary procs and deals 5 damage to your enemy
your enemy could heal or damage but that doesn't has anything to do with mary
>>166401950
>literally cannot stop crying about this one combo no one else has trouble with
holy shit, please keep it up
/svg/ is moving so fast no one will notice i need a concede
81102
>>166401990
>Dubcucks cant handle aggro bat
wew dude
Literally everyone is teching against bats now and so hard that they dropped to T2
>>166401487
You are literally sperging and making the thread a funny thing today.
>>166402048I was being sarcastic, but let's pretend I'm not
>>166401872
easier fix would be to make roach only get +1/+1 on evo, and maybe touch at one forest's OTK roach card draw so it's slightly less consistent
>>166401653
just unica bro
like, just play healing angels and then theemis
>try to have fun in unranked
>people play ranked decks
wow!
pls thread be faster the next op will be thighassassin+ lurching corpse
>>166401767
>Play shadow
>t2 Lurching Corpse
>proceed to fail to draw any activators while my opponent ignores it for the next 6 turns
>lose
>>166402206
more like just blackened scripture bro.
>>166402048
>play a follower that literally cannot die and has 5 attack
>clone it 2 times, then draw 2 cards for free
>win
so, when does this game get hard?
>>166402103
i don't play aggrobats
already told you that yurius nerf would hurt control/midrange much more than aggrobat
>>166402171
the impression was too good
you have to insert something about struggling to get out of D0, even though I guess that's true too
how is the A meta compared to AA and Masters?
I've been managing to climb pretty well with a janky deck so far, but should I expect to hit a wall at some point?
>>166401984
>make roach rush only
>fairies now cost zero but they're now 0/1, add a bunch of fairy buffers
y/n
>>166402103
>they dropped to T2
in a shit list that doesn't mention seraph but considers nep shadow t2
>>166402279
Literally never happens, Lurching Corpse can remove one (1) random follower.
It's literally unstoppable.
>>166402329
I'm struggling at A3
I hope I can climb to AA0 soon so I can stop worrying about rank for a while
>Playing casual for my dailies
>Close to lethal but no board and no hand
>Top deck death's breath to prolong game one turn
>Top deck voice of resentment and evo one for lethal
I legitimately feel bad for that.
>>166402279
>proceed to fail to draw any activators while my opponent ignores it for the next 6 turns
in such a situation you are supposed to evolve it and to hit face repeatedly
can you not drop out of a rank once you get into it? or just masters?
>>166402442
>I legitimately feel bad for that
Why? you made you deck like that to stop these situations and won when you want, there's nothing like a discover mechanic making miraculous bringing the victory over some bullshit random thing
>>166402503
you can derank numbers, but not letters.
Concede please.
71455
>>166402385
A3 is ladder anxiety hell
just play vampybats
>>166402378
what can we do against this dangerous threat known as lurching corpse?
we can't just play a daria deck since it obviously lacks removal
>>166402687
The only choice is to buff Haven.
Other classes have literally no way to stop Lurching Corpse.
>>166402578
noice
seems like a pretty good ranking system overall, in that you don't necessarily need a great winrate to advance. players get better the more they play but card draw rng over time doesn't support that
>>166402634
fratelli d'italia!
>>166402573
Because he outplayed me with his Eidolon of memes. He had 22 damage on the board while I had nothing and no cards in my hand, if I didn't get exactly the draw I needed I would've lost.
>7 winstreak pure seraph
>next 3 games brick hard and have both seraphs by turn 3
This matchmaking/draw is fucking rigged
>aggro shadow
>daria slaves
>tempo elf (didn't even know that was viable)
>aggrobat
>storm haven
that was my last few games
what the fuck is going on
>>166402634
>>166402805
Thanks!
>>166402761
the unique problems is that everyone try to use faster decks like tempo rune,aggrobat and roach otk because of the endless grind.
anyway in the end (master) you just meme or try hard with control decks.
>>166402851
You put that card in your deck for that exclusive reason senpai be proud.
>>166390148
hoooly shit
>>166401984
It limits the design space of the class and it's so strong that it will always be the best forest deck regardless of what the print. Take notice of what they had to do to push a new archetype onto rune since DShift is also incredibly strong and will always be good like OTKO roach.
Roach would still be viable at 3 mana, it just lowers the consistency because you'll need more chip damage or more cost reduction which takes a longer time to build up.
>Go first against Daria
>Lose
Nice game shadowbabs
I need a match loss please
>23083
>>166403081
With Rune they could've just put all that effort into making dirt and snowman better instead of creating such cancer deck. But I agree with you.
>play against a guy with a taker of two flair for my 5th win
>he casts fairy caster on 5 putting himself up to 9 cards
>crashes his forest spirit into my guy
>Burns his curse and his next draw, dies like an idiot
First time getting 2 packs for 5 wins, neat.
I conceding to random anons
>>166401653
No but next expansion they will add legendary angry yurius 5 cost 2/6 that will do 3 damage per summoned follower.
>>166390148
>Sexualizing Unica
You guys are mentally ill
>playing dragon into shadow
fuck khawy
>>166403475
this
sexualize the ding dong instead, unica is too pure
>>166403562
Anon, it's only fair that shadow gets to do that after all they suffered through DE
I'm going to do it.
>>166403694
DON'T DO IT
DON'T FALL FOR THEIR JEWISH TRICKS
>>166403592
you're just asking to for her to ding your dong (not in the good way)
>>166403694
If you need the leggos, sure it's a great value. If you already have 3 cerebs though just get something else.
>>166403660
>want to use earth rune
>feel it is alright in this meta because it deals well with aggro
>remember that Shadow exists
I'd rather deal with DE Elana Haven any day. Shadow is the epitome of not fun. And to make matters worse, all the new good cards they got don't really interact with Shadows (meanwhile Control Blood) so they are able to spam grossly undercosted removal like Foul Tempest while still being able to play aggro or control.
No matter what Shadow deck is ran, it's the same shit. Half the deck is cheap removal and they abuse broken cards like Lurching Corpse, which comes down way too early in a match to be as strong as it is. Death's Breath and Foul Tempest are ridiculously strong cards and having a shadow cost is meaningless these days.
It also just reminds me of many of the cards I've always hated and know will never be adjusted, like Urd. Why can Urd target enemies? If it can, why can it target allies? Why is she a 3/3 for 4? Why is Siegfried a 3/3 for 4? Why do people always wait until a deck is too strong to use their brain and analyze cards? Why did it take until Daria for people to point out that Levi is a 4/4 evolve for 2 that gets an evolve effect that's as strong as Dragon Warrior's but with added spellboost potential?
This is why I play Dshift. Decks like Shadow mean we can never actually have fun with followers. Followers have to just be a means to going face (storm, tokens) or just an immediate fanfare effect. Control Shadow is the same as a Hearthstone deck. You don't even want to draw your cards because you want Nep to do it. It relies heavily on RNG cards that are overstated and undercosted and in return have RNG effects that are way too controllable to be a downside.
Don't change your speech so sunddenly
>>166402952
I think you have some misconceptions about the quality and level of thought I put into the deck. Maybe this will make it more clear on why I feel bad.
>>166398436
that's 5 mana
>>166403694
i bought three cerb packs
she's lovely but I highly regret it
On that note, will they ever buff cards like Jeanne D'arc? It makes sense if they want to trick people into buying the prebuilts.
>>166403930
>I'd rather deal with DE Elana Haven any day
I'll ask again, what's the difference between DE Elana and RoB Elana
man, the carrot is literally ultimate value.
>>166404042
>I'll ask again, what's the difference between DE Elana and RoB Elana
We cry about Daria now
How's this for a Elana deck? I just threw in whatever I thought was good and had on hand.
Don't have that many legos and golds.
>>166402683
could i get a source on this
>>166403930
>grossly undercosted removal
lol get rekt faggot
>played for 6 hours
>still stucked in the middle of AA1
Send help please.
>>166403930
this pasta is already great
>>166403930
>STILL mad at shadow
>>166404082
One of the most fun games I've had this expansion was with a valkyrie spear + carrot + urd deck. The haven I was playing against had to themis my carrot board 3 times
>>166404378
play forest roach anon.
>>166403930
was right with you until you said you're a d.shit player
you and shadow deserve to eat shit!!!!!!!
>>166403802
anyone who doesn't want bellringer angel to ding their dong is gay
>>166403954
Everyone start from someplace anon you should still to be proud.you could be a shitter and not put death' breath in the deck
>>166404127
Remove goblinbreaker,incandescente dragon,white knight,healing priestand add more ,Elana Prayer,Lion and Tribunal.
And you should add themis is a weak board clearer if you compare to tightassasin+corpse but help to stall.
>>166396496
It doesn't matter if you have leathal or not. You are dead next turn no matter what unless you lethal him. If you go for lethat, you always play zero costs first so you should have at least played 2 gobu and then thought about what to do there afterwards. Don't ever play more than two without thinking first though because you can clog your board up when you needed room for 3 roached. In this case you didn't.
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>>166404127
Looks pretty good. Maybe a prism priestess or two to reliably pull elanas.
>>166403930
Listen.
If you play Dshift. You need to STOP.
Don't you understand that the meta is bad for it?
Aggro is everywhere. You will lose over and over.
So don't play Dshift. DON'T.
FUCKING STOP
>>166404579
Is strange to concede as a bat against Rowen
>>166404579
ThanksVania
People were saying during rob's release that doscard dragon would rule the world. Now nobody talks about it at all and I dont even think I've played against it more than 2 times. Did it slip through the meta?
>you will never be the one person that got so blown out by a single okay combo few people run that you write novels about it being daria tier literally all day
>>166389790
delete this
>>166404673
What are you an about, aggro is nowhere to be seen
It's totally fine to run a deck that's vulnerable to aggro in a major way
t. shadow aggro player
>Elana is too slow for this meta
I wanted to try this and actually i got 16 win out of 20 match, 100% win rate against aggro blood (6/6) and tempo rune (4/4)
Nice meme guysi'm not going to post the deck since you hate elana and heaven so you dont want to play it right? also i'm only a1
>>166404127
Replace those Elanas with Seraph and you are good to go
>Playing Elana in 2017
they're not gonna nerf daria without nerfing shadow, if aggro falls from meta you'll see them touching down on all it's cheap (p wise) combos
be careful what you wish for baka nee chan...
quality thread like usual
>>166404869
>A1
Nigger everything works until you reach AA. I'm climbing A with fucking neutralcraft
>>166404869
Lad themis is weaker than thight assasin+corpse,calamitous,salamanber,alexander togheter.
>>166404479I already do.
>>166404741
It has low deck value.
You're playing a really small deck and since it can't thrash opponent's face cleanly as an aggro deck would it ends up showing.
At least that's what I've seen from the other side.
>>166405006
Post filters.
>>166404869
but my seraph deck shits on elana
what're you even gonna do when I don't even need to go face, ever
>>166405049
play it better
>>166405006
Delete this
>>166405014
>everything works until you reach AA
Not true if you are playing dragon
Anyone have full art of thightassasin and corpse?
>>166404042
RoB Elana barely exists.
>>166405006
>Being this buttblasted
>>166404741
>People were saying during rob's release that doscard dragon would rule the world.
wishful thinking
it still needs more support
>>166405006
why even be in the thread if you're so buttfrustrated that you have to filter 75% of it
>>166404741
Slow deck with no strong wincons.
>>166405113
I only had 2 match against seraph but i won both, i'm pretty safe with 2 odin also elana works even if i heal myself when i have 20 hp so no problem if you don't go face
>>166405168
But the deck itself didn't change which is my point (unless you meant seraph decks in which case they are better now because they don't waste a turn playing elana while still clearing your board every turn)
>>166405293
I don't filter anything since it's sometimes funny to read the autism, but you have to admit /svg/ has spiralled downhill since the new year.
I blame this awful meta for driving people away.
>>166405141
Wrong
>>166405469
The deck didn't change but everyone can now play Bahamut and completely wreck it.
Against Elana you're supposed to just go face right? It's hard to ignore the things they play when they get so much value, but if you don't kill them fast enough they win anyway.
>>166405523
>level 92
You don't play Dragon.
>>166405390
wow im new as fuck, only faced one elana so far and stomped her
>elana works even if i heal myself when i have 20 hp
aw dude what the fuck
>>166405523
>Climbing with JO
What the hell? I tried to use that deck and I got completely destroyed.
>>166405637
It's a fatigue contest if you can't aggro burst them down before the heal train.
>>166405490
dude, it's always autism, lewdposting and frustrated little boys
>>166405141
Except I'm still doing fine in AA with it.
>>166405637
Just grind them out.
>>166404550
>>166404879
Don't have enough golds/vial to make golds to replace them. Any good silvers instead?
>>166404621
I thought prism could only fetch countdown amulets
>>166405637
If you are playing aggro? Yeah, just go face. Contrary to popular shitter belief Elana loses against the fastest aggro decks. The only aggro decks it wins against are the ones that rely on getting you into a certain danger zone and then comboing you, like aggro shadow.
>climb whole rank with shadowcraft
>lose first two trials
>switch to daria and win the other two
THANK YOU BASED WITCH OF DIMENSIONS
>>166405123
I don't think that's the problem. Suddenly I'm bricking as hell for no reason.
>>166405160
>>166403204
They did make Dirt better, though. Dramatically. I couldn't climb A with it in DE, but I just made Masters yesterday using it across all of AA.
>>166405637
against elena she buttfucks any slow control decks, you need to tweak in your most aggressive board control cards to force her to put up her hand otherwise she can just sit on it and buttfuck you with good card draw
it'd be nice if they slowed down her card draw, or make elena 4p, but you have to put up with her shit
>>166405908
if there's anything op about this card is that thigh gap
>>166405076
half
it was physically painful to watch this
>>166405490
>I blame this awful meta for driving people away.
are you the same >>166403930 because i love to play control deck without being stomped by d-shift
>>166405908
Thanks
>>166405160
3
>>166406020
>against elena she buttfucks any slow control decks
Bahamut
>it'd be nice if they slowed down her card draw, or make elena 4p, but you have to put up with her shit
"Cygames please nerf this tier 3 deck"
>>166406064
go back to re ddit then if here is not your liking faggot
>>166406064
Why do you filter all those filenames? What are they?
>>166406064
>He needs a safe space
Go to reddit kiddo
>>166406064
Imagine being this.autistic
>>166406064
why are you even here?
>>166406064
>>166406085
DShift still stomps control though. It's just that it's getting bullied out hard by Daria Rune and Roach Elf.
>>166406232
Talking about twitch streamers IS reddit though.
>>166406082
Ow my sanity.
>>166406064
>ywn be this autistic
>>166406263
retarded reaction images that's been posted over and over
>>166406232
are you offended by that? did you recognize something ?
>>166406064
>thanks
What the fuck
>>166406064
lmao
imagine being this neurotic and frustrated, you don't even hide the stubs so you can see all the shit you've filtered lolgloree be
>>166405908
God I want her to crush my balls between those thighs
>>166406175
>bahamut
seraph
you don't see seraph/elena in AA?
even with odins teched in her card draw means she can buttfuck you if you're slow on good card draw (blood)
>>166406064
>I HATE FUN the post
>>166406419
actually no im pretty new to /svg/ but people who post their filters on 4chan and only complain are cancer
go to leddit for your super serious discussion fix
>>166406483
it follows "concede" so it must be for the people begging for the private match mission
>>166406529
>seraph
odin
>>166406064
>thanks
>Christmas
>private
literally autistic
>Cucumber Salad
I keked
>>166406503
I want her to boardwipe me better than a themsis ever could.
>>166406064
>shadowbabs is fucking typo'd
smdh anon
>>166405831
It just seems pretty tough to push through unless they brick.
>Turn 1
Hare
>Turn 2
Bellringer
Unica
Snake
Scripture
>Turn 3
Shield Angel
Healing Angel
Temple Defender
>Turn 4
Le evil deeds man
Death Sentence
Tribunal
>Turn 5
Angelic Sword Maiden
Goblimnount
Cleric Lancer
Radiance Angel
Ancient Lion Spirit
Acolyte's Light
>Turn 6
Moon
Themis, you probably lose
I feel like a properly tuned Elana deck that curves out has so many ways on it's own to deal with aggro without even needing to combo with Elana.
stop playing odin thanks
>>166406082
jesus fuck this hurt me as well
>>166406064
So you filter each thread down to about 20 posts?
>>166405669
Just be yourself
>>166406529
>Seraph
Odin.
Face it, complaining about Elana or even Haven in general in this meta is stupid. It's gotten dumpstered hard at every tourney in every region this expansion. I think it was t3 last I checked.
>>166406569
i posted it after request
fuck off
>>166406540
>shitposting
>fun
go back to /v/ you stupid faggot
>>166406575
this>>166406483
>>166406645
Fuck you seraphfag
>>166406064
impregnate nepnep
...the post he will not see
>>166405831
>The only aggro decks it wins against are the ones that rely on getting you into a certain danger zone and then comboing you, like aggro shadow.
wtf, it is not how aggro shadow works
>>166406082
>>166406680
Don't you guys see?
He was unloading the evo point so that one card that procs off empty evo points became live.
>>166406082
scrub here, if he had nothing else to play, what should he have done? ended his turn? honest question
>>166406715
Fucking cumming.
>>166406754
you get annoyed by literally everything, even people thanking others
kill yourself you special snowflake
>>166406817
Use capitalization and I will answer.
I can give you a hint for now: Learn to fucking read
>>166406817
He evolved when he didn't need to.
>>166406817
jeno already has rush without evolving, there's literally 0 reason to evolve it there
>>166406801
>He was unloading the evo point so that one card that procs off empty evo points became live.
now I want a card like that
>>166406817
his card has rush so it can kill the other evolved monster really easily, no need to waste an evo point
>>166406064
what reaction images are those?
>>166406754
you realize you cut out so much regular conversation with your autistic filters, right
why not just filter words like "to" and "the"
how is anyone even supposed to say t.hanks for your awesome filter list
>>166406817
>playing wolfman to trade out evo'd unit: good
>using an evo on a card with rush built in and unable to survive the trade anyways: bad
>>166403592
>unica is too pure
she trades her services for bread, it is not very pure, anon
>>166406529
>you don't see seraph/elena in AA?
Barely, pure seraph decks (even sun satan decks) are way more popular now. To be honest there is no real reason to keep using elana in seraph now that haven has even more and better control cards. Whenever I see a Seraph/Elana I assume they are using an old deck they didn't bother updating.
>>166406817
Jeno has Rush. He's already able to attack on the turn he comes down. Evolving him doesn't help him survive the trade, so it was a complete waste.
>>166406971
>A rank
yeah
>>166403081
It would kill roach because you remove 6/9 ways to pull a roach and you turn the deck into more of a late game deck since 3 roaches would cost 9pp. It would not be viable to combo a 3pp card that you need to hard draw. It would be some kind of failed control deck.
You can't just destroy a card that the class relies on without buffing it in other areas.
>>166406893
>>166406901
>>166406902
>>166406930
>>166406952
lul sorry I don't know sword cards well at all, replay didn't give it time to show the rush glow
>>166406971
you fucking suck my dude
>>166406801
i mean even if that existed, he could have evolved one of the fighters that popped out of jeno
>>166406754
I despise people like you.
I bet that when someone asks you a question IRL you always go "uh" "I guess" or some neutral response like that, and that you were bullied back in school.
>>166407056
>>166407084
forgive me for being sub-AA shitter ill delete my post now
>tfw "Win 1" daily takes 40 minutes
>>166390148
did you drew it? you are good at drawing indeed, it looks so cute
>>166406971
???
>>166406792
>wtf, it is not how aggro shadow works
One of the main goals of aggro shadow is getting you into the 11 health danger zone of cerberus + phantom howl.
>>166407242
>D rank
yeah
>>166407184
>sub-AA
Nah, you have to be Master to be allowed to post here
>>166406950
>>166406845
second half you buttblasted weeb shitterslmao@u
>>166407205
Should've used Lurching corpse.
tfw can't stop winning with roach deck
>>166407296
stop this meme already
>>166407376
You are so skilled.
>>166407242
post deck and rank please
fuck me yesterday i got 13 winstreak in A3 then i lost the next 8 match
i dont know what i did wrong
>>166407316
Nope just A1 i'm this one >>166404869
very stressful turn
>>166407340
Even your own post contains one of your filters you fucking retard
>>166407340
luuuul
enjoy your nice little sheltered world where no one can say things you don't like and you masturbate to all the filtered stubsa a a a a a a a gloree be
>>166407340
Luna is for _______
>>166407296
It's main goal is to get you within burn range, this includes stuff like demonic strike and dod. They could just also kill you with followers.
It just happens that howl+cerb is the best burn.
>play goblinmount
>aggro bat instantly concedes
nice game shadowbabs
>>166406615
How the fuck is that an Elana deck
>>166407527
that's ironical
>>166407539
Yeah alright, and the issue is that Elana can easily heal out of burn range (shouldn't have used the word combo).
>>166407340
so we meed to write like retords i se u wikness nou durk krungosting raigun KUNA IS FOW
>>166407064
Roach was played before he was tutorable, he'd be played after. The card is still incredibly strong for 3 mana, it's clearly broken when you can fgather enough cards for a 20 hp ohko combo by turn 7 fairly consistently.
>>166407602
new meta
an elana deck without elana but with mun bun
>>166407534
watching you fuck other girls.
>>166407340
Do you want to talk about your problems? I'm down to listen.
>>166407730
zanks
would playing moon bunny in seraph haven as removal works?
>>166405974
post dick
>>166407531
>luuuul
Enjoy being filtered faggot
>>166407340
>DEED
>I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS
>>166407902
ze shozo zalk zaike thak
>>166407602
I left out Elana to show how many options the deck has to beat aggro, even without dropping Elana. Even assuming they spend turn 3 on Elana, there are so many other options they have all the way up to turn 6. A curve out from an Elana/Seraph deck beats a curve out from an aggro deck.
>>166407920
like anyone cares about an autist who's wittle feewings are so easily huwtable, awwww
so how often were you bullied in school
>>166391081
post deck
>mfw the cute little autist clicks on the stubs he doesn't hide to respond to the filtered posts making fun of him
this shit is just too precious lmao
>>166407340
So wait, you filter all that shit and we're the ones blasted? Pff
>>166407907
maybe
just use your waifu anon, do it for her
>vengeance procs at 11hp
there you go, I just fixed blood craft
>>166408304
how much (You)'s do you think i got
>>166407726
aggro shadow can kill you at turn 6 without any 11 damage moves pretty much like aggro bats can, simply playing on curve, its main disadvantage over aggrobats it's less burn (ghosts hitting face isn't burn btw, it's temporary storm followers who are stopped by wards), but aggrobats can't usually hit that strong from an empty board
>>166392865
We don't write the characters
>>166408268
>salt over lurching + necrothighs
>now this
weekdays are so much more comfy.
>>166407909
k
>>166408392
You get less than just a copy paste of a dumb post
will there be a time when posting vampy isnt associated with shitposting /svg/
>>166408252
im sure it's pretty shit in higher ranks but I love it, just got like my 4th loss after another 14 game win streak to triple fucking albert three turns in a row
how do you stop the turn ninja trainee, kunoichi, rogues creed curve?
>>166408020
But how the fuck is that an Elana deck especifically is what I'm asking
You might as well complain about the class in general, any non-storm haven deck could have played that shit. Why single out Elana?
In any case you are asking a nonsensical question. If they are pure Elana they won't play that many wards, if any wards at all and so they only have their healing to rely on to survive, which means if you manage to go fast enough you can beat them. If they seraph/elana (which I barely ever see anymore), guess what pure seraph can play all of that shit too. Again, why single out Elana?
>>166408392
>get (you)s
>filter them all
???
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>>166407376
*whoa*
*gasp*
>>166408532
never!
touch the fluffy tail!
>>166408532
I don't think saying goodnight to your fellow bloodkins is shitposting.
>>166408392
even if you were just pretending you lost 10 minutes of your pathetic life compiling that list
top & kek
>>166408582
you outaggro them or use a board clear that kills ambushed stuff
New thread:
>>166408784
>>166408784
>>166408614
I guess that's true. I guess my problem is that Elana has more versatility than just Seraph. If they don't draw Seraph somehow, they can still just hit you with buffed guys after healing away all your damage and killing your guys. As other people have said, I think seraph is much more powerful than Elana, the question is just how you're going to spend your time up until you drop seraph and combo out.
>>166408660
but bats are nocturnal
>>166408582
Lurching corpse, necroassassin, khawy, tribunal, any AoE.
Ambush is dead.
>>166408821
get fucked with your discord thread
>>166408816
>>166408821
>>166408821
>>166408816
christ man
I like the first though, and it is, well, first
>>166408821
>>166408816
everytime
>>166408665
>>166408624
i'm not pretending
this fucking general is a shitposting central and i'm trying to make it bearable for me to read
funny how some of you got triggered like you are from reddit or something
>>166408848
nerd bats
they shitpost on 4chan at day and sleep at night
>>166408816
>>166408821
>>166408816
>>166408821
>>166408816
>>166408821
>dragoncucks can't even make the first thread
H-HEAR
>>166408821
Kill yourself Discordfag.
>>166408939
Not the same guy
>>166408939
desu safespace is something from reddit
>>166408103
how is he upsetting you so much
>>166407340
>>166395995
Control may have its issues but Elana ain't one of them, I never even got to draw my Satan this game and outvalued his "M-muh heal synergy" silliness anyways.