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Salvage and Mercenaries Edition

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cDa7yZeci8

New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Armored Core:
http://pastebin.com/Ek3kMtZW
http://pastebin.com/WSq32Amg
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/armoredcorevg

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
https://clanjadewolf.net/mwll/
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://www.heavygear.com/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/416020

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://bombdogstudios.com/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

Rough Ride your new forklift here:
https://mwomercs.com/roughneck

Stab your spear you filthy tribal:
https://mwomercs.com/javelin

Free day of premium time:
https://mwomercs.com/profile/redeem
Redeem Code: JAN2017FPT

How to start MWO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imffSrJ4O7s

New Player's Guide to MWO (aka the Manual):
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg

Group Mumble Info:
kong.stepoff.com
port:7777
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1st for buy ur javelins
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what mech should I build next, I only have one mech so far

that ac40 jaeger bomb looks fun
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>>166352117
Tamber Woff
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>>166352000
>Kit wants to fuck this thing
wew
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>>166352000
Needs a hair stylist, maybe >>>/soc/ can help
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>>166352174
what weapons?
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>>166352117
It would be fun, until you realize you have to get into close range with an xl engine and big side torsos.

The gaussjager is much better.
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>>166352358
Dakka
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=309&l=d85d6d5e45eb58a5822f9aa9ff7493b006ff1e86
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please fuck off to /soc/
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>>166352000
I feel like this image needs bloodshot eyes
then it would be perfect
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You got pics of Vass post-Stilnoct snorting?
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Is there an IS Mech that runs like... 3x Large Laser and an AC10? Or something like that
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>>166353402
Cata

Dragon

Marauder
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is it worth spending real money to buy mechs?

or do I give into the jews?
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>>166353203
That's Dashing? He does look somewhat Hispanic.
But he honestly looks like a pretty cool dude. I'd hang out with that silver haired bastard.
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>>166352000
For spud's XKONG 2:LONG WANG reincarnation, I've made him a shirtless dudebro wearing aviator shades, a backwards ballcap, some shorts with a crotch guard thing and elbow/shoulder pads
>>166352891
For kit well I've taken some artistic liberties. Let's say they're akin to quiet from MGSV
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>>166319036
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>See what kong looks like
>Claw out eyes in disgust and horror
I can only imagine what the other konglets look like
Or what the discordians look like
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>>166355049
I never asked for this.
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>>166355049
>Harabec.jpg
I wanted to live my whole life never knowing, never having the potential to put a face to the voice. Not even carrying a mental image in the fear that I might ruin it. And it still feels like someone just shot my dog in front of me.
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>>166355804
>>166355049
dyel
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>>166355804
>Shaix is an old men
What a fucking surprise
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>>166355804
>Shaix is fucking hot.
Nigga u gay.
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>>166355804
WTF does that shirt say? Also Shaix is cool guy but he should be squatting while wearing a tracksuit
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>>166356515
G. Star-RAW
https://www.g-star.com/en_us
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>>166356925
Expensive.

$25 for a plain white or black tee shirt.

Gangstar RAW
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>>166357614
>Luxury clothing brand

O that's y
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Is there a clever way to fit the phrase "Minimally Viable" into twelve characters

Min Viable and MinmlyViable aren't doing it for me
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>>166358145
nonviable
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>>166358145
MiniVayaBell
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>>166357614
>>166357682
Very expensive.
And it all looks like shit.
I'll stick to buying my crap from thrift and surplus stores.
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How is Spirit Bear? Seems like you could run a nice SRM+UAC brawling setup on it with 2 LPLs on the side.
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Can we please not make this a weird personal clique chatroom where we share IRL pics and rate and talk about drama bullshit?
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>>166359808
>Spirit Bear
#1 choice of all assault lurmers worldwide.
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https://www.thebeaverton.com/2016/02/canadian-forces-battlemech-procurement-program-500-trillion-over-budget/

Relevant?

>When procuring military equipment you plan for the conflicts of tomorrow, not today,” said Vance. “We have to be ready to take on threats not just from ISIL, but potential future enemies such as Russia, China, and Clan Smoke Jaguar.

Fucking gold
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You guys NEED to check out Brigador.

https://youtu.be/50GQq2FtdR8

Holy shit I can't stop playing this.
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>>166360324
Fucking reddit gold my dude.
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About to buy a Timber Wolf, which varient should I get?
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>>166360629
Anything but Prime, Prime is by far the worst one
TBR-S for JJs and maximal pop-tarting, TBR-A/B/C for a Center Torso 1 E hard point (medium lasers only)
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>>166360921
So if im a huge faggot, and pop-tart every game, go TBR-S?
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>>166361330
Yeah.
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Post yfw the skill tree will save MWO
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>>166361951
I just want the hundreds of millions I spent on modules back, so I can kit out a KDK3 or a Spirit Bear
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>Using xp on the KDK 3 to be almost as powerful before prenerf
The horror
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>>166362285
Meant for >>166362035
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>>166362285
>new optional customizable ultraskillquirks on Gargoyle makes it the deadliest clam mech
What now?
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which one is better in your guy's opinions for a black knight?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=321&l=b6bad84bcade57f2f93cad676efd4e04ef54fb7b

5 med pulse + 2 lrg pulse
-10% heat and AMS

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=323&l=4841abad699c652d446262953e39ba32bc86288b

5 med lasers + 3 lrg pulse
15% energy range, 20% torso turn and -5% heat

which one is overall better?
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>>166362035

Didn't they state they would be refunding all that shit?
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>>166362397
>Gargoyle
>deadliest
What is it, C-SPL overquirkening? Like that pulses in MW3?

My plans for now are - c-bills Huntsman to Asrmbomb IShitters in scoutings, then time to understand my shit with new skills then deal with it while waiting c-bills MAR IIC.
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>>166362535
Bigger alpha - take the 3LPL one, but move all LPLs in ST.
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>the only mech i'm positive on with a real sample size is the trial highlander
hold me /gerg/, i'm so bad
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How much AC10 ammo is enough AC10 ammo?
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>>166363674
Don't worry, MemeRMlanders soon. It has a super positive outlook.
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>>166363796
3 tons would give you 2.5 minutes of constant shooting. So somewhere around there I'd assume.
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>>166363796
There's a general solution - you take as many tonso of ammo as guns or launchers you have +1.
It's enough in general, does not apply to MG and AMS and if you're bouating single weapon or have no enery equipped.
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>>166363958
3 tons is the limit for any mech that doesn't have ways to survive for extremely long. Even 2 tons is usually enough for most players within their average lifespans.
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>>166364318
>most players within their average lifespans
You mean hurr-durr we march straight to get rekt?
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What is the best camo for a cataphract?
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>>166364670
Not that one.
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>>166364670
TSW IFT?
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>>166364582
I mean anyone who moves to attack rather than the ones who are always "after you".
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>>166364318
Alright. I'll run 2.5 tons of AC10 and 3 tons of SRMs
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>>166364954
Just don't post your build.
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What are some fun laser vomiters I can get without feeding the piggy? MIIC looks lovely, but, well, y'know
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>>166365392
>Fun laser vomiters

Warhammer.

Timber Wolf.

Ebon Jaguar.
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>>166365392
Quirkdraw.
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>>166365392
BANSHEE - turn it into a Hunchie
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Energy draw shouldnt be scrapped
Sick of Clan laser spewing mechs being able to alpha 3 - 4 times without shutting down
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>>166366346
Quircks and separate tonnage must be scraped. Sick of IS normies being able to alpha 5-6 times while in heavier mechs.
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I hope tier 2 and 1 have people talking in their games
Tier 3 is shit
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>>166368385
Be carefull what you wish for.
T2 and even T1 suck as well and the most kinds of faggot that talk there, if at all, are obnoxious pug commanders.
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Hi There!
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When do we get new infomation on mw5?
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And ded thred
Rly tickles that pickle
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>>166370994
get back to sleep
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>>166371863
>only 12:18am
Never, I need to discuss robots and robot related video games
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>>166366346
Energy draw could go fuck itself the moment they backpedaled on clan pepsi.

It was a shitty duct tape fix anyway, for something that would be solved better by making heatsinks high dissapation low capacity instead of the other way around.
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>>166372852
That line of thinking kept fucking over clan tech more on hot maps.

Since hot maps only provide +4% extra passive heat, high capacity heatsinks barely feel it. The -30% heat dissipation rate that high dissipation heatsinks got on hot maps however screwed clans something fierce.

Not to mention, in order for high capacity vs high dissipation heatsinks to be fair, the high dissipation would have to be so efficient that by the time an ERPPC finishes cycling its cooldown period, A vast majority of the heat it generated should have dissipated already.
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>>166374924
I mean all heatsinks are supposed to be dissapation and not capacity.
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>>166374924
>Not to mention, in order for high capacity vs high dissipation heatsinks to be fair, the high dissipation would have to be so efficient that by the time an ERPPC finishes cycling its cooldown period, A vast majority of the heat it generated should have dissipated already.
Yes, that is the idea. In the context of reigning in the total alpha damage of a mech the capacity vs dissipation thing can have a pretty strong effect that is balanced on a knife's edge between being under the heat limit or over it. So as long as it forces players to space out their weapons fire based on their heat gauge rather than the 0.5 second spooky heat barrier, it will work out, probably.

Clan DHS doesn't need to be exactly balanced against IS DHS because we are going for complete parity between both tech bases here. The Clan DHS is allowed to be inferior overall in return for being smaller.
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>>166375361
This. Increasing heat cap was a huge mistake, it only reinforces the hit and run peekaboo high alpha mentality. To be honest the most a mech should be able to fire is 2 PPCs simultaneously. Which I guess still allows for Goose+2PPC builds, fuck. We're all fucked. Dead game.
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>>166375654
Goose is a ticking critbomb at least
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>>166354751

christ
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>>166365169
My bad, should I post my AC10 3SRM4 2ML XL Cent build again? I forgot to
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Should I buy the Javelin for everything that isn't the actual mech? $15 seems bretty good
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>>166376620
If you want the paint, title and MC then sure
The actual mech will be hot garbage
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>>166360445

senpai you're like a year late
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>>166375654
>We're all fucked. Dead game.
This. Powecreep is unstoppable, that killed PS2.
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>>166377056
Power creep killed ps2? What happened there, I thought everything was CARVs and Orions
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i really fucking hope PGI gets better at modeling in MW5: Mercs

PLEASE look like the concept art, PLEASE no tumors
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>>166377431
With no advanced technology they COULD model every weapon differently because there are so few of them, somewhat similar to MWLL except less tacked-on.
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>>166377431
>expecting, or merely hoping for anything resembling quality from the PIG
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Guys is MWO p2w?
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>>166377890
It's pay 2 notgrind
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>>166376895
Do I get the paints with the $15 pack? They aren't listed on the Javelin page
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>>166377431
If they wanted to actually take advantage of the UE4 engine they could physically and damage model the internal structure, myomers, external armor and individual weapons and equipment for each Mech instead of just having swiss cheese moon landing damage textures.
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>>166378013

id assume yes since the paints are the "Early Adopter" bonus
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Is the Orion TwoC a decent brawler?

I got bored sniping stuff
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>>166377737

im not expecting or hoping, expectations and hope died long ago

im begging
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Guys is MWLL p2w?
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>>166379586
yes
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>>166354169
>>166355761
Harabec and Dashing met up some time last year and ate lunch or something. Both said they were respectively pretty cool dudes. As for dashing looking Hispanic, I think it's just his facial hair.
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>>166375654
What fucks things up is how pgi memed some mechs and weapons artificially into roles they weren't supposed to have.
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>>166379805
Who?
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>>166379636
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benis
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The viper loosks fun, is it a good time?
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gief us that juicy 3060 tech.

RAC's and HAG's.
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>>166386450
The spl and memeguns is a good time, but it's getting nerfed tomorrow because no fun allowed.
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>>166386487
>RAC2's and RAC5's

PGI will more than likely make RACs close range burst cannons like clan UAC's.

RAC2's would pretty much be a clan UAC2. Would probably have worse range than normal IS AC2 (which bad already), depending on whether they make it fire 1 or 2 rounds per trigger, it'll either be better than IS AC5 or worse than it.

RAC5's would probably be better than AC10's. Similar range, slightly more heat, higher burst even if its a stream. Less tonnage for more damage either way.

>Hyper Assault Gauss Rifles

Unless PGI somehow implements combat vehicles and battle armour or aircraft, theres no point for these things. It'll take longer than a normal Gauss Rifle for it to unload its payload, which means that more than half of the rounds/ slugs are going to spread because your enemies torso twist.

A rapid rate of fire, essentially a fat, fragile machinegun serves no purpose in the current peek and poke circlejerk framework of the game.
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>>166386492
How bad? Tomorrow is my birthday :(
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>>166388260
>How bad? Tomorrow is my birthday :(

It's having most of it's memegun quirks removed, otherwise should be fine.
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>>166388158
I envision RACs as being continuous fire auto weapons with low damage per pellet but with the full ungimped 6x DPS potential as its selling point.

>A rapid rate of fire, essentially a fat, fragile machinegun
Which is why it should fire fast enough with such a high velocity that this is not a problem and 40 burst damage at close range with 0% chance of jamming is worth the trouble. It has random projectile spread as its balancing factor, also the weapon goes kaboom. With a ghost heat limit of 1 the HAG40 can be crab-wielded for guaranteed 80 damage within half a second up to 720 meters away even if the 5-damage shots are spread out.
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>>166389734
>40 rounds fired in half a second

Nah m8, PGI won't add it like that. It'll be fired within 1 second, and that provided with spread will make it utterly worthless for it's intended role in brawling.
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OMG DUDERS

TODAY PHIL THE SHILL WILL STREAM SOME BUSHWANKER GAMEPLAY

TUNE IN

OR NOT
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>>166388369
That doesn't sound bad at all
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>>166390287
>OR NOT

This desu senpai
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>>166389905
Ah right, I am sleepy and forgot about the fire time. Half second refers to the ghost heat though it may not even be a real problem for sniping assaults.

1 second isn't going to kill accuracy when the spread isn't that bad. Assuming it isn't that bad. If it can put all shots on a big target at 500+ meters then it will be pinpoint up close. And the HAGs have an accuracy penalty within the 2 hex min range so they were never intended for brawling in any case, who ever said they had to be brawler weapons in MWO?

They are the compromise between the UAC/20 and the CGauss with a touch of NO JAMMING, so use it as implied.
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>put dual goose and dual pepsi on the scorch
>three games in, I'd rather take a hammer to my testicles than play another one
How do people even have fun with peepeefeeldee?
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>>166391023
Particle effects and 360 no scopes
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>>166391023
idk, man.
Pepsi on its own can be fun but pepsigoose feels so clunky and gay even though its very effective. Goose charging has a lot to do with the fun-destroying clunkiness imo, but removing it will make faggots butthurt (like it did in energy draw) and make the combo even more meta.
Fuck the goose in general. Nothing but problems that thing.
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>>166391598
>mfw nobody at pgi remembers gauss rifles are supposed to have minimum range
>despite autistically fucking over clan lrms with minimum range that doesn't exist and fucking over IS ppc and lrms with complete damage deleting minimum range even though that's not how it works
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>>166391967
>gauss rifles are supposed to have minimum range

No they're not dumbass. They just have a slight accuracy penalty at very close range.
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>>166391967
The min range is represented by the charge mechanic which makes it clunkier up close, at least that's the idea.

The real travesty is when they turned the Pepsi damage calculations from a smooth reduction into an instant zero the moment the target is within 90m. It isn't even like IK where performance issues were a genuine excuse but what did they even do this for?
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>>166391967
>rifles having a minimum range
You sure are dumb.
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>>166391967
except that's wrong
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>>166392504
>>166392624
>>166392856
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Gauss_Rifle
>Minimum Range 2

It has only one hex smaller minimum range than the normal IS ppc. If it worked on the same ass-backwards fucktard piggy logic, it would do literally 0 damage against something that's at 60m or closer. And that goes for both IS and Clan gauss.
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>>166390725
A weapon that has accuracy penalty up close means it'll likely have spread. Any spread is exacerbated exponentially at range.

If it has a minimum firing distance, there will be no reason to bring that when you can just bring an LBX20 or god forbid, a UAC20.

Since it's a rapid fire weapon, it'll have an innate accuracy penalty due to the stream of bullets like the heavier clan ultra autocannons.
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>>166393397
except that's wrong

Minimum range simply applies a -1 penalty to hit.
get rekt nerd
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Kate Rhymes with ____
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>>166395052
penis
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>>166393397
>being this full of shit

Listen m8 you clearly don't understand anything about the game, stop talking about it.
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>>166395052
Mate, this is the stompy robots general. Get it together.
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>>166393397
Good job not understanding how minimum range works for gauss rifles.
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>>166395052
SLUT
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S T R E A M I S U P
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>>166397060
>rush bakka
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>>166397060
EXTREME
CANCER
BOXES
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>>166395006
>>166395206
>>166395484

>missing the point >>166393397 already knows that but to PGI minimum range means no damage

Reading comprehension is hard.
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lmao that second left arm missle mount
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>>166398518
>high mounted srm6 in LT
>fills only half of the missilebox
The magnitude of lazyness is classic PIG.
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>roof mounted ballistic
>can't put anything in it before filling the low mounted cheek hardpoint
RIP miniMAD.
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>>166353304

>snorting ambien.
>not taking it rectally mixed with vodka.
>being this casual.

But for real, Z drugs and benzos need access to the liver, so snorting or taking it in the ass doesn't do much, but injecting gives almost instant results.
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>>166398698
Hardpoint order always doing everything possible to fuck you over is by far my least favourite meme.
At least weapons don't randomly migrate between games anymore.
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>>166398698
Not to mention that it looks glued on and in danger of snapping off when fired.
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>>166378484

Whoa, it's almost like you don't need modern tech to do that, and ancient titles like MW3 managed a pretty solid 'undamaged,' 'armor pierced,' 'internals exposed' damage mesh system.
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NARC META
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>>166398760
Thanks for the ProTip Vass, I never knew.
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>>166399764

No problem, my man. Getting huge amounts of ambien injected causes random effects, like how it can briefly bring people out of comas.
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>>166400652
7 fps?
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What's the reasoning for giving the Locust, Commando, and Mist Lynx a bonus to heat dissipation?

If its because they couldn't possibly hold an engine that fits 10 internal heat sinks then why doesn't the arctic cheetah or kitfox have those quirks?
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>>166401264
>then why doesn't the arctic cheetah or kitfox have those quirks?

But the kitfox does have it. Cheetah is considered too strong so can't have too many quirks.
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>>166402389
Fast + tiny + 6 E == meta meta meta
Meanwhile, Ice Ferret is fat, easy to hit, and only 5 E, what hope is there for a Mech like that?
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>>166401264
Babby and Shit Lynx are absolutely terrible mechs, that's why. Locust used to be absolutely terrible before they turned it into an elemental suit that goes 150kph and has the armament and armor of a battlemech.
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>>166401687
>by foreigners
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>>166403492
Wow, I didn't know Odin was a cocksucker with no balls.
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>>166402815
Still will always beat a Cheetah 1v1 :^)
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>>166403492
>implying the greek gods didn't get into bestiality and other weird shit as well
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>>166404714
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>>166404714
What quranic verse prohibits filling the whole box with missiles?
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>>166404714
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>>166404714

Nice one, PGI. Perfect. Excellent. Comparable to giving Ky a 3HS that takes priority over dash cancel 6HS.
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>>166404714

wee need a second missile hardpoint on the left arm, where should we put it? under the first one? beside the first one? no? directly into the main structure and joint of the arm above it? just texture over it? ok
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>>166404973
Being left-handed is haram so the whole mech is extremely unislamic.
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>>166404714
Post the 6 SRM6 build
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>>166405115
Jesus Christ make it go away.
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>>166405115
Is that real?

Does it really have the highest mount in the game?
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>>166405195
>>166404973
>>166405254
>>166405450
YOU THINK WE'RE JUST PLAYING AROUND?!

(He didn't tab over to it because he pussed out and put on SRM4s instead)
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>>166404714
>>166405115

Jesus, here I was a week ago saying I'd pony up the cash for the Bushwacker because it's been my favorite mech for so long, but this is a disaster.
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>>166405115
Btw how ammo even feeds into that top cannon?
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>>166405619
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>>166405659
Magic.
*throws interstellar glitter everywhere*
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>>166405703
Oh my God
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>>166405619
wew lad

really triggers my trypophobia
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>>166405619
>half of side torso mounted missile box is empty
>additional srm6 in side torso spawns another cancerbox
Every time.
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>>166364739
T-SWIFT.
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>>166405703
Epic
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>>166405895
arm launcher is not amused
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>>166404714
>>166405703
>>166405854
>>166406218
what the fuck

at least >>166405115 looks kinda okay
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Anyone want to buy me a week of premium time?
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>>166406620
Are you a girl?
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>>166405703
WHY IS IT ON THE ELBOW?
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>>166406620
yes
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>>166406659
Would you like me to be?
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And its goofy ass warhorn:

twitch tv/ngngtv/v/116846961?t=39m45s
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>>166406750
How much do you weigh?
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>>166406942
135lbs/61kg
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OH GOD

THIS RUN ANIMATION

twitch tv/ngngtv/v/116846961?t=48m15s
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>>166405703

PGI are true masters of their craft.
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>>166407025
How old are you?

How good do you look in a skirt?

What's your favorite mech?
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>>166406810
>other warhorns are HUMONGOUS

Fucking hell.
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>>166407358
22
I got das booty
VF-1S
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Can anyone link a MW2 Dosbox guide? Never tried Dosbox before.
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>>166405659
>only questioning battlemech ammo feed logic now
How does an AC20 round go through an elbow smaller than the barrel?
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>>166405659
>>166408537

how does ammo stored in the right leg get fed to the gun in the left arm
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>>166408537
>Put ammo in left leg
>Weapon is in right arm.

There's a reason why most mechs on the TT with ammo in weird spots have quirks to represent how weirdly fragile and shitty the ammo feed is.
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REFUNDWACKER?

Y/N?
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>>166409072
You knew the cancer was coming when you signed up
Now you reap the rancored wheat
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>>166405115
>>166405703
>>166405854
lol

>>166408383
Did you even try looking?

https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/GAMES:MechWarrior_2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFwSgKEMIGM
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>>166410960
What If I don't have a disc?
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>>166411853
Then you probably have a version with a nocd crack. Otherwise you're screwed.
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>>166408681

It's an abstraction. The lore reason is because robots feature complicated internal elevators and tubes, like you'd see on a contemporary battleship or cruiser.

Moving ammo from X to Y isn't that much of a challenge, but storing it in X to begin with is retarded when your gun is a dedicated limb, so robots that are notable for awful gun and/or ammo placement are almost universally infamous pieces of shit, or quirky weapons of mass destruction, if you can find spare parts.
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>>166379586
No
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Question: Can I buy multiple hero mechs of the same kind?
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>>166416018

thats cool

is MegaMek a good battletech experience? battletech always sounds a lot cooler in lore than it ends up being in the games
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>>166353767
Why did you ask the same question twice? You never pay money for c-bills. Never.
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>>166418015
yes but no reason to

>>166418024
it has a steep learning curve but once you get it it makes the BT game much faster and more enjoyable
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>>166418024
MegaMek is basically a boardgame emulator, it's as close to playing BT you can get without actually playing BT.
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>>166404714
>>166405115
>>166405619
>>166405703
>>166405854
>>166406218
This is the trash the UrbanMech was made to take out.
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>>166405854
>inb4 lrm 75 bushwhackers are a thing

oh boy
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GXP is such bullshit to grind
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>>166423123
mwo is only pay2notgrind its not like you're here forever
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>>166422406
For the tonnage, that's not a bad tonnage loss for a shitter on the team
Even comes with a shield arm
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>>166423873
I'm saving up for that 15,000 "enemies lose tracking on you when you break LoS" skill
I have 3k
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>>166422212
PGI learned nothing from the Catapult, and it's kinda sad.
Hopefully the golds complain enough to change that, this cancer is going a little too far.
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>>166424520
Good luck.
You also need to pay 6m c-bills for the module itself.
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>>166424520
>>166425031
>playing mwo
>grinding for a new module
>literally shit tier teammates
>mfw
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Anyone else get a huge boner when they grab a known shitmech and make it perform better than potato driven Kodiaks?
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>that Bushwhacker with it's shit ass boxes
How did they fuck it up THIS bad?
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>>166424520

then you get to grind for 25,000 more to get the module that detects people 300m around you when you stand still so you don't turn the wrong corner or crest the wrong hill and get instantly face fucked unless they have ECM and you don't have a probe they do you dont
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playing Front Mission 3 for the first time, this is also my first time playing a turn based game as I have avoided them all my life

it's really good
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>>166427974
I'm so glad I finally have two copies of Radar Dep anf Seismic. Makes the minimal radar in this game much more tolerable
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>>166425031
I still have to buy my third variant too
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>>166422212
>>166424604

It is a really bizarre mech, even for the bushwacker being a janky disjointed nightmare anyway. The torsos and legs are great, but those arms, WTF? That "hand" is non-functional even in TT, the fingers look like they were put there as some kind of anorexic foreskin/buttress hybrid. The shoulder-ear srms dont look bad, until you see the cancer box srms and ask why the fuck are the ears so big.

Has haruko shamed piggi with her own hacked together bushie like the mauler?
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>>166429026

do you have pics of that mauler?
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>>166429553
easy googling man. this is all assets from pgi to show how easy and lazy this shit is. PLUS ITS ALL DONE IN FUCKING BLENDER.
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>>166429876
did this somehow manage to look better or do I have bad taste in robots?
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>MWLL now has better designs than MWO
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Story of how you chose your main mech?
>start game with something I thought was cool
>just starting to get the hang of the game
>get rekt one game by some ace of a pilot
>immediately save up to buy his mech and have mained it ever since, hoping someday to square up with that pilot and test my mettle
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>>166430251
>tfw MechWarrior 3 will always have the best Bushwacker due to piggy incompetence
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>>166429553
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>>166431064
I did research, saw that the Stormcrow was fast, strong and flexible, then began testing builds until I found the one perfect for my play style. Tried lighter and heavier Mechs but found both ends to be underwhelming compared to my Stormcrow, so I've been set ever since.

t. Stormcrow anon
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>>166430106
You mis-understand my point. piggi is known to reuse assets. This is practically ancient meme stuff. The point is some college autist azn grill "pulled a pgi", made a mech out of their assets, and did it faster. This is during the time of how much maps cos, how hard UI is to make...how many of you are from 2016 and later? Im an alcoholic and have addiciton problems, the hell are you new people excuses?
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>>166431331
>You mis-understand my point.
What I want to know is if anyone else thinks it looks better.
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>>166431226
That was boring
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>>166431692

i dont think it looks enough like an awesome, the general shape is there but the canopy, shoulder launchers, chest, and arms aren't distinct enough
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>>166431226
>heavies
>underwhelming

??? they're like heavier mediums with more armor and firepower but they go slightly slower ~80KPH
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>>166432049
My bad, what I should have said was I saw Greg piloting the Zoose and wanted to be just like him, so I bought a Zoose along with various shitmechs and soon realized that Zoose a shit, sold my entire dropdeck for Kodiaks and never dropped with Greg ever again.
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>>166432438
81KPH is not as fast as 104KPH, and Mechs like the Ebon Jag are too wide and don't twist as far as the Stormcrow either. Crow gives me the perfect blend of power and speed that I like on a Mech.

Unless there's a Heavy that goes at least 96KPH while also having much more free tonnage than a Stormcrow (23 tons), I'm not seeing a huge benefit.
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>>166432595
Linebacker goes exactly the same speed as Stormcrow.
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>>166433190
And has less tonnage for weapons.
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>>166429026
>mauler
>>166429553
>mauler
>>166432383
>awesome
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>>166433640
...is that a Zeus?
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How do I save favorite loadouts in MWO so I don't have to muck around in the mechlab over and over?
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>>166434050
You wait 60-90 days
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>>166434436
Well shit. I guess I can wait a bit longer. I remember people asking for that back in the closed beta.

On an unrelated note I totally forgot about being able to knock other mechs down by running into them. My screenshot folder is full of catapults who got knocked on their asses by dragons and whatnot.
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Shoebox strong
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>>166433640

woops
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Is there a way to put a big LRM bullseye on a the top of a King Crab's giant plate forehead?
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>>166434984

i never played beta, i've just seen screenshots and videos of it but i swear the graphics looked better then, i don't know what it is, some post-processing they removed or the art assets had a better synergy going... seemd more atmospheric

also the cockpit canopies don't all have that shitty orange plastic look... wtf is up with that. i think even some of the models looked plain better like the catapult. weren't hardpoints modeled better then too? i've heard mention of "pre-cancer"
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>>166435730
MWO beta had better damage models, actual gyro physics + knockdowns, generally better weapon feel, and Mediums were the meta.
>>
What do you guys listen to while piloting your mechs?
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>>166437115
Podcats, NPR, college radios or http://r-a-d.io/
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so why did they put the LRM10 on the Warhawk Prime on the left arm below the PPCs and not on top of the left torso where it's always been? what the fuck
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>>166435730
As far as graphics go the beta wasn't any better than what we have currently. Way too much motion blur and blurry effects. The netcode was also beyond horrible. But everyone was running around in basically stock mechs and double heat sinks had double efficiency.

Also flamers were OP and hilarious. 9x flamer hunchbacks would be running around overheating people right before blowing themselves up with overheating.
>>
>try to make 2B, 3M, 1E Warhawk that is okay and actually makes use of the mandatory heat sinks
>it's just a worse Scorch
Fuck, this game is Pay 2 Win after all.
>>
Why does my team always fall for chasing the spider and spreading out and then dying?
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>routing to mwomercs.com has failed

nice

I got disconnected when I was chain streak(6)ing a Phoenix Cuck with no weapons left and open everything, then somehow ran off map and died.
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>>166440045

Because the dumbest pilots flock to the heaviest 'Mechs, and chase what they think will be the easiest targets.
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>solo queue
>teammate is an LRM45+TAG Zeus with a Standard 160 engine and 20 tons of LRM ammo
>Kurita logos all over, including on the fist

Fucking Greglodyte
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>>166441440
>Greglodyte
am I an element on the periodic table now?
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I got so close to a damn fine game.
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>>166441769
Damn it Greg
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>>166433981
>>166435465
MAL-idgaf
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>>166405703
>>166405854
Isn't it kind of sad that the Centurion's cancer boxes look relatively good and reasonable in comparison to the Bushwacker?
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>>166443729
you're only saying that because you wanted to post your cent again
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>>166437115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeMdsKq0d0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywxm6zLEjFY

Pretty much these on repeat. Gets me pumped.

Bonus, both are semi vidya-related
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>>166443928
Am I wrong though?
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EH, the missile pods on the bushwacker dont look so bad.
Compared to other mechs they actually look pretty nice[/spoiler
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>800 damage game
>lose

fug what a bad feeling
>>
Whats a good varient of the Urbanmech if I just want to snipe?
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>>166443729
Since when did cent got its barndoors removed by pig?
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>>166450881
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=275&l=e9a26350599471658e115b6920642a5e9b49e4e5
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>>166450881
UM-R60 is the one that has the quirks for it.

2x ERLL and 4x memeguns.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=276&l=4051c30b41c4a04ec89d462773eab47823c79d10

If you just want to snipe and do nothing else, take off the memeguns and put on more jump jets and heatsinks.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=276&l=01f11a3bcb77a3ed8d0173637351039443c45877
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>>166450881
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=277&l=4915ddd125de064b24a4b7fbcf34325b6a0fa556
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>>166450496
Ever got 1000 damage in a shitmech and lose because blue team was just too potato?
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>>166451423
3cerll SHC pilot - is that you?
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>>166451825
>implying sad cats are true shitmechs
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>>166451423

>he thinks he knows what failure looks like.
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>>166453241
What was his build? AC2 memery? LRMbote? 2032 damage if it was focused on torsos would have been enough damage to wipe out all three torso sections of half the enemy team.
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>>166453893

Standard large pulse and medium pulse memery of the day. Writhen has very good aim in general. It was likely just 'that one match' of the day for him, but it's still the biggest failure I've seen in this game. All those dudes with double digit memes and only 4 of his guys managed to break 200 damage period.
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Fucking dead thread, assholes. What about heavy gear news, maybe hawken got an update?
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How are you guys spending your last few 7 hours till the next update?
Will you enjoy the bushwanker?
Will the armor quirk changes actually make the mechs affected tankier and good?
Will /gerg/ complain as usual?
>>
>>166456838
>suffering pugs and retard pug commanders
>implying I feed the pig for lazy cancerboxes
>yes, but that won't make them truly good, just a bit better
>of coursch
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>>166456838
I will enjoy raping the bushwanker.

The armour quirks on most of the mechs getting them in this patch won't change much, they'll just be better damage sponges to farm points off of.

>DRG-FLAME

This one got arguably a bit better, 4x LPL build with the armour of a 75 tonner. Even with an XL255 you're running at 70kph.

>DRG-FANG

3x LPL or 3x ERLL, personally more partial to 3x LPL for super efficient, fast burst machine.

>CTF-IM

Got better, since it had less structure than the other variants. Runs 3x LL + 2x UAC5 or 2x PPC 2x UAC5 nicely. 3x UAC5 is still there, though a bit jammy for my tastes now.

>zoose and hurrlander

Hahaha, fuck off. They're trash. 80 and 90 ton mechs with the firepower of 60-65 tonners. Extra armour on the homolamprey means you're just going to get farmed more. Accel/ decel on the zoose means fuck-all when your opponents are melting your side torsos in two alpha strikes.

>Onions

Literally live up to their meme name now. Peel off their piggy given layers, and everyone can see what stinky things they are inside.
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>>166457234
>>166457057
So shitmechs will stay shitmechs
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>you want a new client annouced
>in time?
>too bad, there's fucking nothing for you, fuck you
>>
>>166459961
>Needing a new client
>Not using steam
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>>166461640
t.steambirth
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>>166461949
>Heavy implications that the vast majority moved to steam
>>
>suffer excruciatingly bad pubs the entire day
>lose 90% of games, all of them with high dmg
>win games in which I wasn't even able to shoot the enemy before they died
>get trash daily double exp
>get killed by teammates through the back with fucking streaks of all things
I want of this ride.
>>
>>166438119


>Double heat sinks had double efficiency.

Thats a lie, we've always had poor dubs, we had single heat sinks and that was why everyone was in stock loadouts.
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>>166450496

the game i got 1400 damage in we lost ;__;
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how much armour does the bushwacker get? I remember it being VERY tanky for its class in MWLL I also especially enjoyed its flexible loadouts
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>>166462185
I know that feel
>>
Guys is MWO p2w?
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>>166465561
Probably won't be much tankier than a Griffin 3M, if at all
>>
Hi There!
>>
>>166465561
Almost as much armour as a 65 ton mech, while it's a 55 tonner.

It's limbs get more armour than a 70 ton mech without quirks, though.
>>
>>166465561
>>166468762
Here's the armour quirks in numbers:

Armor Bonus CT +10
Armor Bonus LT +10
Armor Bonus RT +10
Armor Bonus LA +10
Armor Bonus RA +18
Armor Bonus LL +7
Armor Bonus RL +7
>>
First clan heavy: Night Gyr or Timber Wolf? Looking for mid-long range, got plenty of brawlers already.
>>
>>166469603
Mad Cat has more options
>>
>>166469603
timber, you fool! you can switch a lot more shit around, the niggyr has its hp's fixed
>>
>>166469846
>niggyr has its hp's fixed
Niggyr is an OmniMech like the Wolf. It's just slow as fuck.
>>
>>166469846
>hp's fixed

This guy
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>>166470575
mybad, i just remembered wanting to buy one so i pulled up the stock one in the mechlab to try to see how I would build it before i bought it.
my conclusion was that it was hot garbage.
>>
Will metamechs ever be updated again? Where the fuck do I go for up to date builds?
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>>166456838
I am ready for cancer wacker and tanky gregmechs
>>
undecided if I should get the javelin or not
looks pretty dope though
>>
>>166470941
Does it really need updating? The concepts don't exactly change much between patches.

>>166470886
Niggyr is the best Heavy Clam for Dakka, Goose Pepsi (TWO GOOSE) and generally ballistic boat setups. It has about 35 tons free for weapons, 7 more than the Timmy Woof. The only weakness is mandatory Junk Jets and again, slow as fuck.
>>
>>166471623
I just cant wait to see the cancer it's going to receive for 6 SRM2s.
>>
>people still shilling MWLL
when will they stop?
>>
are servers down?
Is the bushwacker live yet??
can i cancer splat like never before now???
>>
...hellooo????
>>
>>166472943
Hi There!
>>
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Hi There!
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>>166472374
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Serious question
Where are all the quadrupedal mechs at?
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>>166473598
Speaking of which, module tax returns when?
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>>166473832
Late next month.
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>>166472374
>nervous about minimally viable competition in 2017
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>>166463405

No, we actually had, in the following order, engine single sinks, external single sinks, 0 heat external single sinks, external single sinks that worked properly, plus the ability to stack extra sinks in the engine based on rating.

Then we got dubs. Originally, dubs did nothing, or so we thought. Kong science wing launched a heavy investigation, and it was discovered beyond the shadow of a doubt that external dubs, even those stack inside engines, did absolutely nothing, but the engine dubs worked at full effect.

Then PGI reversed it, so the engine dubs stopped working, but now your external dubs did, and at full dub capacity.

The patch that added the stupid oilrig gundanium mining base was also the one that sorted dubs 'once and for all.' Engine dubs worked like they should, but stacked- and external dubs only operated at 1.4. How in the sweet name of fuck they did this is anyone's guess.

Anyway, Paul 'felt that it was just about right,' and the truedub engine sinks and external/stackable poordubs remain to this day, with added changes on top, because position changes.

Much later, they added OP as fuck clan robots, using compact sinks and engines, and by late 2016, they'd finally made singles not suck completely, and created a sort of difference between IS and clan.
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>>166476730
Open sesame :)
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>>166479529
i am allergic to sesame
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>>166476968
>pig still can't give us uncucked dubs because some old man that wants to play stock Mackies would get butthurt about muh singles
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>>166481898
What's even MORE baffling is the fact that they clearly have the ability to differentiate between engine internal and external heatsinks.

So why not have all engine heatsinks be equal value no matter the tech, and then just have singe and double heatsinks give their own positives and negatives?

Wham bam, now you can actually justify taking single heatsinks on tonnage free but space constricted builds.
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>>166482781
>Thunderbolt Top Dog with Endo, STD280, 9x medium pulses and total 19x double heatsinks gets 31% efficiency
>external heatsinks translate to 13,5 capacity, 1,35 cooling efficiency.

>Thunderbolt Top Dog with Endo, XL285, 9x medium pulses and total 27 single heatsinks gets 30% efficiency.
>external heatsinks translate to 19,04 capacity, 2,04 cooling efficiency

>single heatsinks are still worse because engine heatsinks are also forced to be singles
>piggy in charge of balance
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I love each and every one of you, gerg. Please don;t ever change.

Except tardo. he can go fuck himself
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>>166484701
Even dashing? Fuck that guy.
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>>166484759
I wish he would almost get headshotted
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>>166484701
y-you too anon
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i wish heatsinks just dissipated heat instead of raising heat threshold
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>>166485037
Wasn't that the game you guys went over the walls?
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>>166485512
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>>166482781
Why not just make doubles doubles? Do you want to fuck assault mechs in the ass ten million times worse than the game already does with it's dogshit heat mechanics?
>but muh singles
Singles are obsolete tech that should go on jokebuilds like gauss spiders because dubs don't fit in it.
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>>166485498
that was the next match, and only harabeckie had the power to jump over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFzXT6EWyTQ
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i play stock builds and i have fun
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>>166486936
Well, thank heavens...I was worried for a second there you might say you like LRM's.
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>>166487634
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So how is the Bushcancer?
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>>166488835
Only played the hero and the standard variant so far.

Hero I'm running 3x AC2 4x ML. Runs really nice. Bombarding from 742m away the whole time I'm closing in and then blasting with the mediums. 600 or more damage from each of the four games I played.

Standard variant I decided to run with 3x SRM6+A, LPL and 4x memeguns. More feast or famine than the AC2 spam hero, but damn if it doesn't eat up my targets up close. Combo of LPL + artemis SRM6's up close opens up pretty much everything, and by the time my heat is high I can switch to using just the LPL and the memeguns for a quick kill. Only 3 games so far, but two of them I scored higher than 700 and one where I died too early I got 400.
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>>166472374
It's getting increasingly large so I don't expect it to stop.

>>166476090
Now, THIS here is a truly dead game
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>>166476090
>melee

Nice
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https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/185249-looking-for-catapult-builds-and-tips/page__p__4848953#entry4848953
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>>166476090
Can't wait for this to come out
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>>166490138
Please tell me he was just pretending to be retarded
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>>166490138
Why would they let this guy balance the game
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Bushwacker looks bretty gud.
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>>166489863
News of its death is greatly exaggerated. The Gear zombie rises every time it is seemingly put down.
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>>166491249

looks like it was built in robocraft
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>>166491249
Dude I almost got headshotted
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>>166491961
Be more careful then mang.
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How alive is Hawken on the PS4 ?
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>>166493881
https://www.playhawken.com/server-status/playstation
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>mfw PIG fucked the default niggyr camo
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>>166496252
Could you make a screenshot?
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>>166496415
Hope you like ur clam steel grey
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>>166496609
I thought about buying the Polygon Grey color just because it matches the steel grey on so many clan Mechs
1000 MC for it though, feels like a kick in the nuts
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>>166497139
I doesn't match well on the nygger.
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>>166497139
It doesn't match the third colour on the invasion variants btw (even though that's supposed to be what colour it is).
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>>166497139
PIG are truly niggyrs for fucking up one of the few sensibe default clam camos, just to make a few shekels.
Bet they'd clam it was done for consistency reasons, those filthy inconsistent hypocrites.
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If you buy, say, a woodland pattern does it only apply to one chassis or any mech?
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>>166497274
He said color you fucktard
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>>166497692
You either unlock the camo (never ever do this, ever) for that chassis (all variants) permamently.
Or you buy oneshot and have it just for that specific mech and cant swap the camo out without losing it.
The price differance is so cosmic that there is no reason to not oneshot and stick to it.
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>>166497968
Does pig ever do colour discounts, then?
Or colour packs so you could grab all the military fetishist paraphernalia all in one go? Buying stuff for MC doesn't seem to give much value.
mechbay sale when
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new menu music
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>>166498479
They occasionaly do colour sales, just like pattern sales.
There also were some rare events in which you could aquire a colour for free.
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It's pretty baffling that they don't do colour packs honesty.
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Someone post the full 6 SRM6 WACKER please, we only had the 5 SRM4 one so far
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>>166501260
>>166501434

amazing
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>>166501434
Streek
Bote
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Redpill me on the Bushwacker lads, is it better than the Griffin?
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>>166496252
>>166496609

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>166503243
3 AC5 Bush is alright

2 AC10 Bush is actually really fun to play and I would highly recommend it

LBX10 4SRM4 Bush works fine
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>>166503243
Do not ever turn away from the enemy. Torso twisting fundamentals will get you killed. The side torsos are so fucking long, they run up the entire left and right sides, those barn doors will instantly disintegrate.
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wtf is with this new terrible mechbay music how do i go back to the old music
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Redpill me on chickpeas
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Is MWO still ten hours of grinding just to buy another mech without shekels being involved?
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>>166506783
You can buy your first mech on your very first day if you're not a shitter.
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>>166507201
I've played for 3 days (one day with the premium code in OP) and I've just about finished my mastery for my mech
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>>166505501
>not just listening to your own tunes
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>Catapract is a monster from the recent armour changes
>Almost as much armour as an atlas
>A FUCKING ATLAS
That will do PGI
That will do
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>KONG/GONK dropping in bushies.

Disgusting.
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>>166473778
One day we'll get a Zoids VS with only. I yearn for that day.
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What the FUCK is this shit
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>>166510104

theres no way to get a flat one color paintjob now without some dumb pattern borders somewhere, thank you pgi
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So is the Ebon Jaguar good for anything but hill humping?
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>>166514028
>clan shit
>good at anything
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>>166514028
Getting blown up because you're huge with huge METAL BAWKSES and no structure quirks.
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>>166505172
That's... weird. Guess the Right Arm wasn't big enough.
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>Tier 5, nobody uses mics. If someone does have a mic and tells people what to do you somehow always manage to win.

>Tier 3, half the team has mics and all of them are telling you to do something different and you never win.
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>>166515212
The arms only cover the front half of the mech at best. Everything on the side profile of the bushwacker is a side torso shot, it's longer than it is tall it feels like, so they can shoot your side torso before you even have an opportunity to shoot if you try ridge humping.
>>166501260
Look the bushwacker in that, see how it keeps going up and up even past the missile pod on the shoulder? That's _all_ side torso.
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>>166515687
that sucks
guess it'll be good for potato shitters and people that ram into fatties on the daily

not XL safe with that kind of weakness though
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Does IS have good Dakka from IS ACs/UAC5 via quirks?
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>>166515426
>tier 1, mute everybody and single handedly carry the team to victory
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NEW EVENT

https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/01/1702-year-fire-rooster-event
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>>166516516
>UAC quirks

LOL
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>>166516616
>play the game without being a shitter and you get 5 million C-Bills
>stay in Lance Formation 250 times for 300 MC
Second one seems like a chore, rest is alright
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>>166476968
>Then we got dubs. Originally, dubs did nothing, or so we thought. Kong science wing launched a heavy investigation, and it was discovered beyond the shadow of a doubt that external dubs, even those stack inside engines, did absolutely nothing, but the engine dubs worked at full effect.
>Then PGI reversed it, so the engine dubs stopped working, but now your external dubs did, and at full dub capacity.

Holy shit I remember this patch back in 2012 where they had to fix the Double Heatsinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkGvP8VFXAI

The 2012 GDC footage still looks like a better game than today's MWO.

>>166482781
>What's even MORE baffling is the fact that they clearly have the ability to differentiate between engine internal and external heatsinks.

That's why some small engine Clan shitmechs have Rate of Heat Loss quirks to make up for the fixed non-engine 1.4 Double heatsinks.
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>>166519747
>watch video
>laser's lights are reflected over water
>the lighting in general is so much better
>old LRM flight paths
>those old sound effects
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>>166516616
>don't have to play every day to get all the rewards

Nice, it's like the pig has evolved from out of minimally viable tier.
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>>166519747
>those beautiful missile flightpaths

who cares if it's realistic or not
removing that was a real fuckup
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>tfw accidentally spent some gxp on a basic skill
I don't even know how it happened, but I'm butthurt about it
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>>166521820
You have to actively click once to set it to gxp, and then you have to click ok to do it.

Do you just click randomly or something?
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>>166521820
You'll get it back with your tax returns soon. Don't worry
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>>166522048
He probably clicked it while he didn't have enough xp but had enough gxp, I'm always paranoid about accidentally doing that while leveling my shitmechs. Cucked by the pig
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>>166503243
You are better off using a Kintaro for SRMbomb builds because of its superior offensive quirks and humanoid build in exchange for a modest loss of HP. The Griffin is still the only chassis with an ECM+SRM+JJ variant so that's up to what you value more. If you want a BSW for ballistic builds then it is better to compare it to the Shadow Hawk or Wolverine, in which case it is technically better and worse because the hardpoints aren't all clustered in the same spot but most mounts are also pretty low.
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Take a step back

Someone just recommended the Kintaro
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>>166526314
>You are better off using a Kintaro
lolno
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>>166526998
>trying to brawl in a mech with zero twisting fundamentals
Literal suicide
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>>166526314
>worst 55tonner in the game

Listen m80, either recommend him the griffin or the stormcrow, or shut the fuck up
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>>166527430
>either recommend him the griffin
Are you illiterate?
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>>166526998
>>166527430
>insulting the kintaro
1v1 fucking faggots, we will see whose laughing in the end
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All that hype for the Bushwacker and it's a piece of crap shitmech

What a shame.
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>>166529974
what hype? dashing?
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>>166529974
It isn't a shitmech, it's average. It's an IS 55 tonner, doesn't do anything special, but it's tankier than a wolverine. I'd say Shaq = Griffin > Bush = Wolverine > Kintaro. It's not prime tier IS 55 tonner, but it's not the worst.
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For mumble.
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Woodland fourth gradient for mumble.
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"Improved" Scorch camo pat.
Now has three color channels!
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>>166530997
For reference, pre patch Scorch.
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https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/824038630993727488

Heavy mgs may be confirmed
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>>166531878
>memeguns even memier

nice desu
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>>166531878
oh baby
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>>166531878
Oops, sold my Shadow Cat last week.
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>tfw Heavy Machine Guns, Flamers and SRMs will finally be the brawling meta
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They're not removing Radar Deprivation and Advance Seismic from the game in the tax refund, are they??
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>>166516516
>Does IS have good Dakka from IS ACs/UAC5 via quirks?
Mauler is a pretty fun Dakka machine.
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>>166516616
Why no more challenges to kill the new mechs?
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>>166534242
Yes
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OLD MAN SIGHTING
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>>166530997
Good job Pig.
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I'm confused on how colors and patterns work for mech customization. Do you buy colors and have them permanently or are they bound to the chassis/pattern you purchased them for? If I'm buying a pattern it only works for mechs of the same type, but what about colors?
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>>166535586
Pattern unlocks are for a specific chassis only. Single use are for one robot only.
Colors once unlocked are forever available.
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>>166535586
>>166535974
Single use only unlocks for that mech temporarily, if you swap it off you lose it.
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>>166535323
gOld man sighting*
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how do I carry games...
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>>166538249
consult any of the nice and helpful Konglords like Harabec or Whispers
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>>166530997
>>166531127
It's....

It's actually WORSE than the original one.

HOW?!
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are they removing the skill EXP mech mastery thing which you need variants? I just got a second variant and I'll be disappointed I could've just gotten a fresh mech instead of the same thing.
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whats the point of other mechs when people say the timberwolf is #1?
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>>166540780
They are. No more grinding the same mech three times.
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>>166541130
Timberwolf is a very good mech and can do a wide variety of builds. However, it's not the best at any one thing. It's a generalist, not a specialist.
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>>166542181
Yeah no even in specialized roles it's the best.
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=501&l=df2052064d6bde2ea3cbb91cbf993265e6ad2c81

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=502&l=18587c246874452243512d1a5a9a97440f8897df

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=503&l=2342bb2485519305898a473624a7c4240cb628ee

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=504&l=6e2bc3886d4ff35a7a28767ee1aae1e0d963ea4b
Considered dropping the ART in favor of SRM6's, but unsure about heat and recycle time.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=505&l=0093862afa8ecd59e532d90a4c994a8ca42ea389

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=506&l=c06fe7df44a173a8d6ed1807f1d37a14715bedce
Harabec's suggestion swaps two and a half tons of LBX in favor of Med Pulses and max armor, but leaves .37 tons left over.

Not shown: Dual or more ballistic side torso builds. Because they'll likely be overdone.

Please rate and hate.
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>>166542364
Does the Bushy have 60% LBX cooldown or something because if not you can easily do with just two tons of ammo for it buddy.
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>>166542592
>Bushwacker
>quirks
Haha
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>>166542364
Harabec's suggestion is what you should do because the High Roller is most definitely not a CN9-D.

Even then that ammo is ridiculous what are you doing.
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>>166542231
>Yeah no even in specialized roles it's the best.
Name one role it does better than any other mech. I'd love to hear it.
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>>166542878
SMR brawling
Laser vomit
PPC/Goose

I guess the niggyr has it beat in the dakka department
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>>166542364
>2 tons of MG ammo
>2 MGs
These builds are shit with wasted tonnage. You don't understand ammunition usage at all.
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>>166542975
Do not bully!
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>>166542946
Let's go through these one by one, shall we?
>SMR brawling
4xSRM impresses you? Catapult has the Mad Cat beat by a factor of 50%. Hell, an Archer can out-SRM a Timby. We haven't even mentioned the Vulture yet, which will eat a Timber's lunch in a brawl with SRMs. Problem with the Timber Wolf when it comes to brawling is good luck torso twisting with that big ass nose cone. This is coming from someone with 2000 games in Timber Wolves. And hell, you want big, in your face, fuck you face roll brawling? You can't beat an Atlas.
>Laser Vomit
I might have agreed with you on this one... then the MAD-IIC came out. It's got 5 more tons to play with and better hardpoint placement+ a smaller CT. It absolutely ate the T-Wolf's lunch in that department.
>PPC/Goose
Night Gyr is a better platform. Cockpit level mounts and higher arms. Plus way less space wasted on engine. Not like you need the speed when you're a poptarting faggotron out at 900m. And if you want just PPC spam with speed, everyone knows that the Summoner is king.
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I just realized that the Bushwacker is basically Centurion 2.0. So many of my theory builds looks like my old favorite shitmech except with enough hardpoints to specialize on some. Maybe I'll have fun with it when it releases for cbills but I have way too many IS medium mechs already.
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>>166543413
Mad Cat is really best at Laser + Missile multirole. It can carry enough lasers to poke from the safety of the team and then enough missiles to switch to for brawls, yes dem bracket builds. That's with set builds to get the bonus.

I don't know how he likes it best but that's what I use my irate kitty for. I can't stand being a poptart far away from the team and I can't stand sitting on my hands waiting for the sides to finally collide.

Then again, I hardly play it nowadays because there are yet so many other mechs to master.
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>>166543487
>I just realized that the Bushwacker is basically Centurion 2.0

You don't say?
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>>166543487

No such thing as too many mediums.
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>>166516616
They forget to create the progress page this time?
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gas yourselves.
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>>166546885
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>>166494686

>herken.
>108 people on gaystation.
>59 people on the xbone.
>52 steam OG salt lords.

Deader than any randomly picked chinese cartoon fighting game. Deader than MAV.
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ded thred
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>>166549025
post new meta builds
gregmechs
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=55&l=8c7cbe1802a4ca358eebff70cdecc7b5bc25ca16
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>>166550341

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=504&l=c9bca3ad47edac3e2962600b9aa3b5b55ebdf2b1

Like a truck.
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>>166551037
that is.....very little ammo
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=5&l=2d400f3f4ba698021466be1ad271ef8ac6d5d838

Been driving this hunk of crap for years, I love it.
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>>166551819

Hits like a truck.
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Bushwanker is shit! SHIIIIIIIT!!
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>>166553498
Yep.
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Attention.

Russ will do another 'townhall event,' full of softball questions, and the focus of the event is 'the future of MWO.'

25th january, so today.
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>>166554369

Position change, it's moved to the 27th.
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>>166547502
>last time I played there was 300 or so players
>got to such a high ranking that nobody would match with me besides faggots from the general
How's Mechwarrior and heavy gear?
I really enjoy my mechs being able to go fast since my first exposure to the genre was phantom crash and S.L.A.I, at least videogames wise. I'd just like a multiplayer game I can run on my toaster that's active.
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>>166554369
>>166554575
There is such a thing as a good position change. Things like adding in ammo switching and deciding that engine heat sinks should always be singles.

But those are long, hard translations. Mayhaps the pig can be convinced to do an angle rotation in the other direction by withholding enough MC.
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Get on mumble. It's shitmech time.
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>>166554665

Heavy gear isn't getting the player support it needs to survive past zombie form, and MWO is a grind with like 500-1500 players at any given time.
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>>166555230
>deciding that engine heat sinks should always be singles.
This would fuck the game up so badly.
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>>166555824
I guess MWO will have to work.
I wish mech games were more popular, I can't understand why people running around shooting each other in WW2 has millions of people playing but doing that in a robot you build and customize is foreign to people.
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>>166556492
They could alter some of the weapon heats back to normal. Some things like medium lasers of both factions generate more heat than they're supposed to. On the table is also increasing doubles up to their true power and increasing singles up to make them more of an option rather than purely a fun tax.

The end result will probably be easier to control for and balance. Lower capacity and higher cooling generally helps so-called bracket builds too. Engine cooling being affected by the choice of sink type has always been the biggest mistake of Battletech.
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>>166556664
People lack imagination.

People lack the desire to think about the conflicts they in. "why am I fighting X guys?"

Instead people want a world view constructed by people just as evil as the ones they butchered and conquered fed to them through rose tinted glasses in a "GOOD VS EVIL" setting where they can hang their brain out to dry and do something thats entertaining enough to keep them from their mundane lives yet not outlandish enough to seem too "nerdy" to be socially alienating.
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>>166542364
>these bushwacker builds
stop
STOP

This is what you run and all you need to run my main dude
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=501&l=3b270b5cbc1a9413133f6caf4796c791e7df69f7

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=502&l=ae2e27ae746104a86a2d03c115618c037b461fc9

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=503&l=79b023f9bed367547e258c8a0241b05871cf0260

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=504&l=03aaac0d589413d662fb39a1ead8efb4716e30d6

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=506&l=a0cd0a73114170fbf2cea0529fd7e30bc78ebb32
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>>166558146
>Not shown: Dual or more ballistic side torso builds. Because they'll likely be overdone.
>proceeds to post dual ballistic side torso builds
How dull.

What's the advantage of downgrading the art to upgrade the engine?
I've been running the P1 a lot since this, and the slightly slower speed is nice for the trade off in ART.
S2 I've been running with SRM24, so the ballistic isn't necessary. Also don't tell anyone but I ran it with SRM2s at one point lel.
With P2 I went down to half a ton of MG ammo, and a good engine boost.
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>>166558897
look mang if you wanna do sub 500 in da klord drops that's fine with me, but a true medium mech patrician wouldn't pass up on those dank ballistic hardpoints. If I wanted to run missile/ballistic or just missiles, I would've bought a shadow hawk or a griffin instead
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>>166559279
Okay, I guess.
I have Shadow Hawks too.
If I wanted to run ballistics I'd buy HunchbackIICs or heavies... and oh, would you look at that I did~

I like the High Roller suggestion though.
ty for that one.
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>>166560125
How is the name "high roller" related to bushwackers?
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>>166560694
It's the Hero Variant.
I don't remember what the lore was, has something to do with the BT animated series.
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>>166560987
High Roller and it's paint scheme is a reference to the Bushwacker piloted by the token nigger of the Battletech animated series. The nigger is forced to be a thug for a local crime syndicate because of his gambling debts, but gets out of it due to the confusion wrought by the clan invasion and joins the hodge podge pride parade of the series protagonists.
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PFAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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How often are there sales? I need some more mechbays
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>>166561237
>mfw I've been driving a BLACKED mech piloted by a literal din-du
D R O P P E D

>>166561315
I mean that's literally the stock build so...
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>>166561334
like twice a year for mechbays
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=501&l=96efb7d931936995aeb1ee29bb48cb344c549f86

viable?
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>only a third of the gxp I need for my module
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this is a long grind
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>>166561992
no
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>>166562020
In 60 to 90 days things will be different.
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please tell me the battletech game is turn based and not realtime like mechcommander
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>>166562246
how different
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>>166562757
it is
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>>166562927

thank you
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Guys is MWO p2w?
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>>166565669
Yes, definitely, but not horribly so.
>>
>Have Urbanmech
>Comes with an AC20, just use that for a long time.
>Eventually strip off lasers for more AC20 shots.
>Do ok, usually finish off wounded mechs by pounding their damaged parts with shells.

>Switch to dual AC2s.
>Spend the entire match sandblasting mechs from ~1000m.
>Always wind up with 800+ damage done and no killing blows.

I think LL used to have a rifleman build that had rotary autocannons on its arms, is there something similar to that in the heavy class in MWO? Do rotaries even exist in MWO?
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Any word on when the battletech beta is starting?
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>>166566825
Jaegermech can do multi AC2's which is similar enough, probably the closest to what you're looking for, being basically a ballistic rifleman.
Not RAC's yet though.
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>>166566923
I look on occasion, but I haven't seen anything, not even by email.
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Is Piggys "volumetric scaling" even working anymore? Why is the Bushwacker bigger, wider and thicker than a Catapult, or a Crab, or a Nova?

WHY IS IT SO GOD DAMN HUMONGOUS?
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IHMT
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>>166569265
Muhlurrms
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LRM100 here with 20 tons of ammo, give locks for love from above
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Kinda want to grab Javelin just for the colours desu.
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>>166569024
Apparently they think Mechs are made of solid marshmallow with a uniform density throughout, so probably going with the Bushwacker having a narrow torso is how it's overall proportions are larger.
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>>166569024
Check your eyes.
It's fucking tiny. It's smaller than a stormcrow, one of the smallest 55tonners in the game.
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>>166575712
>shitcrow
>small
At least we can agree that the bushcancer is small-ish.
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>>166575712
Nigger the bushwacker is the size of most heavies.
It's legitimately the same size as a madcat.
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>>166576065
You shouldn't shitpost about things that are obviously untrue
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>>166576213
it's as big as a north american house hippo
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>>166575996
>>166576065
lolno
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Why do I see lots of IS Mechs use SRM4s instead of SRM6s? Aren't 4s worse?
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>>166577230
One less critspace + you don't need to waste tonnage and space on artemis since spread is good enough as it is.
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>>166577230
The missile pattern is less spread out and it has less heat and faster recycle time. The extra missiles from the SRM6 are usually wasted on adjacent locations that aren't being targeted.
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>>166577230
>more tonnage efficient
>does not strictly require artemis = even more tonnage efficiency
>syncs up better with ac10/lb10, if you intend to use those

The main reasons, if I havn't forgotten something.
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>>166576601
Nice meme
Go walk next to one in game and go third person
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What's the best IS heavy that has at least one variant that can brawl?
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>>166576601
Looks good, it's remarkably small and tanky as long as you never torso twist.
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>>166578728
>tanky
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>>166577230
More specifically some direct comparisons for the same tonnage:

>2x SRM6:
6 tons, 4 crits, 8 heat, 4 seconds, 25.8 damage
>3x SRM4:
6 tons, 3 crits, 9 heat, 3 seconds, 25.8 damage

>2x SRM6+Artemis
8 tons, 6 crits, 8 heat, 4 seconds, 25.8 damage
>4x SRM4
8 tons, 4 crits, 12 heat, 3 seconds, 34.4 damage
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>>166576601
>Stands taller than a catapult
>sides are easier to hit than on the catapult
>Stands the same height as a Dragon
>you literally CANNOT protect the bushwackers sides
as both arms are too low to protect it, even if you look as far up with your arms as the mech can

Nah, bushwacker a shit.
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Y/N?
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>>166580025
>slow and shortrange
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>>166580141
75kph isn't slow.
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>>166579541
Ah, so non-art SRM4 is the best bang for the buck until you run out of missile hard points. I guess that makes sense.
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>>166578728

I'm pretty pleased with it too.
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>>166581473
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure SRM-2's are better.

In general the smaller missile things are better but take more hardpoints
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>>166582373
Not quite better overall cause srm2's are too much focused on dps.
Even if you have, lets say, 6 missile hardpoints: thats just 12 missiles. Sure they fire fast as fuck and in tight groupings, but thats almost permament facetime. Srm2 is a very specific weapon, that is usualy worse than srm4s even if you have loadsa hardpoints, just because of the facetime.
Maybe they're fine on the 6 missile hardpoint bushcancer, cause shielding in that thing is death anyway.
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Should I buy the IIC Onion or the regular one?
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>>166582373
The smaller the srm launcher the less heat efficient it becomes. It also has much smaller spread.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment

Pay particular attention to DPS and DPH.
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>>166583337
Lol neither

But if you want to be a retarded ogre cosplayer, then the onion IIC.
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What's the Zeus good at doing?
>>
Guys is MWO p2w?
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>>166584374
Being forgotten
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>>166584374
Securing kills.
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>>166584374
Wasting drop tonnage
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>>166583337
Why not save yourself some annoyance and spacebux and buy neither?
There are plenty great or at least good 75t alternatives.
But if you are dead set on buying that shitmech get these:

>onion IIC
A for brawling

>vanilla onion
V for uac5+LL; VA for brawling

The rest are even shittier.

>>166584374
>going fast
>dying faster
>missile-fist
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>>166584859
But I wanted a missile brawler heavy.
Doesn't seem to be much in the way of choice beside Onions.
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>>166583317
>>166582373
On the topic of SRM-2's, is there literally any reason to ever run the IS SRM-2's over the streak SRM-2's?
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>>166585673
>get a timber yiff A/C/D
>equip 4x asrm6 + 6x spl
>procede to dismantle pugs with 84 alpha, while being fast and having good hitboxes
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>>166585825
Yes. Streaks are incredible trash and only "work" in mssive numbers(read: c-srm6) agains light opponents.
They're trash cause they can randomly hit every enemy component except the head.
So they spread damage like a motherfucker and require locks.
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>>166585673
Catapult. A1 with 6 asrm 6 for shits n giggles, or bb, c1, or c4 to actually have some lasers but less srms.

I find the A1 to be a lot of fun when I can get close enough to use the srms, but otherwise painful without some lasers to give me a little range.

t. tier 5 shitter
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>>166565669
>Guys is MWO p2w?
No, but if you fuck up and buy dumb shit at the start then you're in for a long painful grind with shitmechs.
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HGA patch is up with various fixes from the launch feedback.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/416020/announcements/detail/687197541758707426
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>>166589857
if only anyone cared
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>>166589857
>>166590765
thanks anon I appreciate hearing news about robot games that aren't mwo
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>>166589857
Looks cool, why isn't everyone playing this?
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>>166594670
Because dead and no content
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>>166594670

because i cant even log in and the dev team doesnt know why and cant/wont fix it
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>>166595671
The backend issue with several Linux versions was patched up in the update. Getting some other sort of error message?
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>>166594670
It looks nice af but I've promissed myself to never buy into an alpha/beta ever again, so I'm waiting and hoping for release.
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>>166594670
Pretty much everyone is waiting for it to become popular or someone else to suggest playing it. Plenty of people in Kong have a heavy gear account so we could probably give it a try one night to actually see how it is.
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>Frozen City skirmish
>me over here with only spl and memeguns
>9 whole fucking minutes of ppc and gauss flying over the valley
>Somebody complaining about running out of AC/2 ammo
>Only once people have run out of all their ballistics do they push across

Turned out most of the enemy team was sniping builds that couldn't stand up in a brawl.
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>>166597224
Currently planned for about a year of Steam early access using modular releases to get to full release status, so the target is end of 2017 at the moment. They have the Battle module and Gearbay module in place, currently working on expanding the Market module, next one coming up is Melee, then A.I., Corporate, E-Sport, VR and wrapping up with the first episode of the Single Player and Co-op PVE campaign.

It's likely the full release will entail at least the 12 Gears that have been previously featured on the HGA site of which 8 are currently available, though there are Striders, Tanks, and Hovertanks already listed as placeholders in the market and it seems over 85 Gears are planned to cover most of the unit roster from the tabletop game. Also it's likely the intention is to have several episodic updates of the single player campaign over time after the full release to cover an overall story arc.
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How do I channel faggot gravity?
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>there will never be a battletech fighting game

kill me
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>>166599458
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>chicken walker sale
http://mwomercs.com/news/2017/01/1706-year-fire-rooster-sale
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>>166600034
Haha time to buy mechs I won't use until new skill tree.
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Kongdrops happening
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>fresh 50t ersl boat vs fresh 95t spl boat within spl effective range
>nova takes nothing I'm cored instantly
Really stimulated the gray matter.
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>Timba Wuf is not actually on sale in game
ONE JOB
>>
kek
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>>166595837

i get an Error 400 error, failed to authenticate
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how often do trial mechs change?
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NOTHING BUT FUCKING RETARDED DOGSHIT MAPS
EVERY FUCKING TIME WHAT THE FUCK IS THESE TIER 200000 FAGGOTS BONER WITH VOTING FOR THE MOST RETARDED SHITTY FUCKING AIDS INFECTION VECTOR TRASH

and nothing but stupid fucking fuckers in my team every time losing fucking 1-12 every fucking match after voting for their favourite aidsnigger map they cant even play
every match some fucking tardcunt in my lance is afk or runs into some random direction for no fucking reason so i cant even get their shitty fucking lance bonuses for the fucking shit event
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kONG & pIGGY
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Is there not a way to check the stats of your last match? Sometimes I want to double check how much damage I did or something, or forgot to check at all until I'm already back in the mechlab.
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>>166604398
literally once in a blue moon
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>>166602165
Learn to aim
Learn your torso twist fundamentals
You got outplayed
Tonnage does not automatically equal to win vs smaller stuff
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Which chickens should I buy? Was thinking about a second Ebin or a first Timbuktu, although ideally I would probably wait for tax refunds first
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>>166606923
>getting fucked over by the aids hitboxes on novas, shitcrows, marauders etc that turn invincible when they twist their nose by 1 degree means I got outplayed
>>
What's a good mech that will force me to learn the maps/how to stay alive in the lighter mechs? I find I do better in assaults because I'm always overestimating how much armor my lighter mechs have.

I was thinking of getting a new medium because I only have a cicada.
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>>166607041
what ebin
get a cataphract desu
>>
>>166607041
Get the timber doge if you don't plan to play a fuckload before the tax refunds.
It's the best long term investment.
>>
8k GXP
7k to go
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>>166604082
Passed it along to see if there is a known specific fix for it. In the meantime you can pm Houruck the community manager in the Steam forum or on the HGA Discord channel to get your info to them.
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>>166607830
Hunchback?
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>>166609473

thank you
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FUCKING MASSACRE
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>>166608534
OK, I'll do that. I like vomit and Dakka and splat, so hopefully it does one of those better than my Ebin or Crow (probably vomit)
>>
hello??
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>>166613394
Hi There!
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>>166610068
I was thinking of getting a hunchback. I loved it in the beta. Is the clan version pretty good too?
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>>166613842
The Clan Hunch is the best 50 tonner in the game and will be even after its nerfed (tighter twist/yaw restrictions)
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kek
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>>166614395
Where did all the tonnage go?
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How many clan LRM 20s does it take to have non-stop impulse on an event at 400m? 5, 6?
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>>166614461

I have a theory.
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>>166614461
standard engine
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Kongdrops™ continue
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>>166607301
That's a whole lot of mad. You need to git gud.
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>>166607301
if you think jet cocks are so good, why don't you buy a bushwacker and see how it works out for you?
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What is the most compact Heavy/Assault with the most armor for the least hitbox?
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>>166616472

arctic cheetah
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>>166614636

>Atlas on MW3 Base

Nice try artist.
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>>166583337
Lemme redpill you on Onions boiyo

Onion and OnIIChans are both pretty gud brawlers but in different ways

OnIIChans got dem clan XL engines so they're better with survivability and speed, along with dem spicy clan UACs and medicine lasers. For the IICs I'd recommend the C or the A

IS Onions got dem spicy qwirks n' shit, so they got better deeps and armor. Most of the variants are shit except the VA and the M, but the M personally is the most fun.

tl;dr both are gud just slap on some autocannons and SRMs n' shit and you should be fine

>>166584374
at being loose my dude
I mean it's in the name for fucks sake
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>trying to get lance formation things
>always one dick in my lance afk or splits off early in the match
>lucky to get even one per match
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>>166617337
how do you "become loose"?
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>>166618036
nigga you don't "become" loose, you LET loose, kinda like that fart you try to hold in when your in a crowded area but can't hold it in no mo, or burping very very loudly in mumble and getting kicked for it.
>>
I want to make Greggy loose
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>>166621034
greggy preggy
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>>166621138
gregnant?
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Is this a good Tambourine setup?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=a5f41f097aaa5e4259ddfa911667d97f6e3c372a

I like the right half, but I don't know what to do with the remainder.
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What are popular Stalker builds these days? This sale's got me feeling all kindsa funny
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I fell for the Ice Ferret meme.
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>>166624534
We told you it was shit. You should have listened.

t. Shadow Cat pilot
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>>166624534
Did it really make you think
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>>166624735
The sad thing is I was a SHC pilot too, then I saw the quirk nerfs and decided to try another medium.
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Why are so many of the IS heavies so fucking huge? Some are taller than heavies.
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>>166625467
>is heavies
oops
Meant mediums

They're HUGE
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>>166625552
Whats a good medium mech to buy? Whats a good light mech? Are the good ones on sale?
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>>166626326
Lights: Arctic Cheetah, Locust
Medium: Stormcrow, Griffin
Heavy: Ebin Jag/Timby/Niggyr, Warhammer/Grasshopper
Assault: Kodiak, Battlemaster/Atlas

Missing a few others
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I'm kind of surprised by how impactful the AC10 is on a Centurion
Even with IS XL and loss of Artemis, Standard + 3 ASRM6 + 2 MLs feels worse than XL + AC 10 + 3 SRM4 + 2 MLs -- just because you get that "free" 10 damage every second for no heat cost, both at range and up close

Gives me a better respect for Ballistics on Mediums, when I typically ran Missiles+supporting Lasers instead
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As someone who doesn't own a Timberwoof, which one is the best one to get while they're on sale?
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>>166627198
S has the best pods since you can jump snipe with it, you need to use S pods if you care about jump jets at all
A/C/D are good too if you care more about a 1E in your CT
Avoid the Prime at all costs, it is by far the worst one
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>>166353402
Highlander 732, you can also fit missiles on it as well alongside the AC/10 and 3x
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>>166353402
You can easily run that on a K2 with a 300xl or 275 standard
>>
It seems to me Assault or a big Heavy with lots of weapons seems like the easiest to play? You just slug it out while dishing damage. Play a Light or Medium or even a lighter Heavy and you're not nearly guaranteed to deal as much damage - assuming you're in proper engagement ranges for your weapons the game is still decided mostly by close range and killing people quick.
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>>166626390
Is the storm crow good? What about the locust?
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Does the amount of lance in formation // top score on team information get tracked anywhere?
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>>166629516
Acquire proficiency
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>>166629632
It should be on event page, but someone told pig screwed this time. I predict it'll be restored in a day or two.
>>
Can you go FAST in MWO?
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>>166632470
yes
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>>166632470

171 kilometers per hour fast.
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How fast can an Urbanmech go? I've got mine going 97kpm, but I've seen videos of people getting theirs up to 100ish, whats the deal?
>>
What's a good thing to use my mechbucks on? I've been hanging on to almost 20k since the beta. I'm half tempted to buy the hunchback IIC champion because of how easy it is to rack up Cbills in it.

I also don't really care about colors/skins
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>>166633895
Buy any of the better heroes when they go on sale so you can get the extra cbill generation.

Otherwise, grab some decals.
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>>166634113
Shit I just noticed champions are XP bonus and not MC. What's the XP bonus even for? So you can convert it into gxp?
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>hur the ballistic Bushwackers are the only ones you should take!
>try it out
>basically just two urbies duct taped together
>about as effective as one too
Ebin.
>>
>one day we will get the Imp and it will literally be three urbies duct taped together and will be the best thing ever
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>>166635205

The XP bonus is one of PGI's bad ideas.
>>
why is 9 spl nova the build instead of the old 12 sml

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=431&l=229ccbdbfc32dc6f87975136d197398be7712b12
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>>166636589
What do you mean? Where are you getting it that 9spl is "the build"?
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>>166627198
Don't fall for the TBR-S meme. That one tonne in jumpjets will sabotage you, since almost all good builds will include one TBR-S side torso omnipod with two jumpjets in it already.
Even goosepepsi does not profit from that additional jj that much. It forces you to have little ammo for the goose.
The best one is objectively the A/C/D and the S is second best.
That energy hardpoint is valuable and can be left out to save precious tonnage, unlike the S's locked in jumpjet.
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Why is this called Giant Extreme Robots General when I've only ever seen you faggots talk about MWO?
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>>166637804
because we used to talk about the others till they died, like Hawken and the dead on arrival Heavy gear assault
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>>166637804
Because nobody else plays MWLL
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Jesus christ tier 1 is full of shitters
How do I get back to my underhive again
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>>166639492
Grinding my way out of Tier4 is full of funny moments. Everyone seems to spread out as far as possible at the start of the match so it's impossible for anyone to focus down anything.
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>>166639647
Honestly it makes the game far more engaging when not every round is a deathball.
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>>166640868

Deathballs win matches in MWO, my man,
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>Account injection 5mil cbills

Wut

What's this about?
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>>166641589
Yes, I am aware.
I wasn't saying not to do that.
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>>166641591
"Option 1: Achieve the Highest Match Score in your Team a total of 6 times through the course of this Event."

https://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201701yofr

You're a FILTHY NEGRO.
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Well the bushwanker is pretty shit, though fighting it with its srms is a pain in the cock
Also
>Rest of the atlas' buff when?
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>>166637117
TBR-S is for bullying unsuspecting lights with your SRMs.
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>>166643506
But the TBR-A/C/D is objectively better at srm brawling.
>A/C/D
>4x arsm6 + 6x spl

>S
>only 5x slp

Another jumpjet is not worth an additional spl if you already have jumpjets anway.
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>>166626390
>Atlas
>good
Battlemaster is THE spheroid assault my man.
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>>166625467

the game has major sizing problems but the IS get it the worst i think

the Black Knight is retardedly big, the size of an assault, it's bigger than the god damn grasshopper (which is at least gangly) and the Wolfhound, Firestarter and Panther are borderline unusable because they're the size of mediums

the scaling in this game is retarded
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>>166644953
On TT all mechs are considered the same size when it comes to to-hit rolls :^)
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>>166629516

Heavy and Medium are the easiest to play, Assaults don't get that much more weapons than either and their slow speed is incredibly punishing for positioning mistakes, and the enemy team will focus fire you. Your team also depends on you for knowing when to push and sacrifice yourself/share your armor
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>>166645032

that doesn't surprise me, but in TT mechs get a decrease in accuracy while moving as well as an increase in heat (i don't know if it matters how fast they're going, or just if they're walking, cruising, or running), and mechs going fast are much harder to hit unless you have a really accurate weapon like a pulse laser

so if that's pgis line of reasoning they're complete idiots since you suffer absolutely no penalties for firing on the move, at least lag and shitty hitreg makes hitting moving lights tricky with projectile wepaons
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Guys is MWO p2w?
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>>166646631
Yes. Luckily it's small shit that's usually unnoticeable.
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>>166636891
spicy
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>>166643652
Jump Jets for brawling? Is that the meta over adding more heat sinks?
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>>166647221
wut
I think you need to read that post again.
Also having at least one jumpjet is nice.
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>>166647292
Explain how you get the 6th SPL on the TBR when you only get five from arms and CT. 2JJs, 4JJs?
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>>166647372
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=270&l=fa1ff908fe3cc2f6a73639163358ffd835bf8ba7
Easy.
Like this.
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Very Nice
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Hello?
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>>166653365
Hi there!
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>>166653828
What's the next memiest hero name they can dig up from the old man lore?
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>>166637967
Probably going to take the second tournament announcement to jumpstart more people playing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04prbpq

About 10:32 in where the interview starts.
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>>166654731
>970

Nice meme card
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>yfw PIG has the chance to introduce light fusion engines for IS that don't explode on side torso destruction and free up some tonnage
>would fix balancing, avoid loregold butthurt and give you 3 different engine types to choose from
If these retarded bums don't do that, I'll be pissed.
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>>166656801
They already screwed up the engine tonnages across the board by making them several tons heavier than they should be and having to use space magic in the case of the UrbanMech by giving it a -2.5 ton 60 Fusion. As if they were somehow unable to account for the basic starting weights of the mechs as the minimum tonnage and just carry over the normal construction rules that had the math already worked out.
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THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN
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>>166657420
Yes, yes, I know, but do you seriously expect PIG to remedy that now?
I find the light engine is a more realistic way to make the shitheap we have better, while taking PIGs lazyness and ineptitude into account.
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>>166654731
That's so game that gives away a gpu with a higher number than its player count
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>>166658251
They'll probably say the LFE doesn't fit their vision of IS/Clan balance and the intricate nature of Standard and XL engine synergy.
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Did Gman died?
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>>166655605
>>166658641

It's interesting that another mech game even existing can trigger gold men this much.
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>>166658981
Well that blatant kind of cop out would be funny at least.
I'd expect even some of the golds and shills being mad about that one.
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>>166657420
Does this mean lighter mechs get fucked over by overweight engines?
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>>166659415
Yes
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>>166660571
No, it means that every mech is fucked over to some extend by overweight engines.
>>
>>166661114
Well sure, but does it affect them to the same degree?
From the urbanmech thing it seems like light ones have it worst since they don't have much tonnage to work with to begin with.
>>
How is it possible gauss pepsi kodiak can get so good damage numbers, the dps feels like it should be dogshit compared to pure dakka but apparently it isn't.
>>
>>166661372
You inner ape is underwhelmed by the anemic sound effects of peepeefeeldee weaponry which creates a negative bias.
I have sames with Scorch.
>halfheartedly plink away at niggers for 5 minutes
>1000 damage
>>
>>166661256
Yeah they're some of the most affected. Thankfully lights also use light weapons.
Big shit that's forced to use STDs gets fucked too.

>>166661372
When you destroy lets say a right torso, the arm that was attached gets destroyed too and that damage gets credited to you.
>>
Will there be a new grabdeal any time soon?
>>
>>166662657
No
>>
>that one guy in an assault mech that splits off from the rest of the team and dies
>>
>>166663787
That guys who says

It is not because of all all the lurm assaults on our team that we lost but because of the lack of skill in our team
>>
Nice, got the golden egg in 8 matches.

Would be nice if PGI included shortcuts in their events more often
>>
>>166664324
It'd be nice if they didn't include shit that depends on your teammates like lance in formation in their events.
>>
>>166637804
Stockholm syndrome. People here have given so much money to ((((PGI)))) that they refuse to play AC or MWLL
>>
how do i turn back the menu music
>>
>>166661372
Goose and Pepsi Kodiak does 60 damage every time it fires at optimal range. The pepsi splash might not be that helpful to kill an enemy, but it's certainly counts in the damage scores.

Shooting only 10 times is typical for the average player and you have a decent damage score. Doing twice that isn't rocket science, and isn't unusual for any good pilot.

>>166665594
Everyone's free to talk about any giant robot game here.
>>
>play dual goose dual pepsi robot
>win
So this... Is the power... Of metagame...
Whoa...
>>
Great an another day of aids shit fucking niggerfaggot trash teammates, fucking shitmaps made by retards who should kill themselves, fucking pure dog shit all day every day, fucking die

fucking every time map pool inflated with nothing but fucking vomit from some fucking diseased tard working at piggy, with trash fucking broken terrain hitboxes everywhere, fucking shit trash faggot terrain, bad visibility because every map athmosphere has to be saturated with russ' fucking taint grease and shitty foliage, fucking retarded braintarded teammates doing nothing but tier 15000 play, all weapons clipping on random invisible crystals while some high mounted faggot shoots through glitched terrain all day like its fucking nothing
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>>166666634
>IHMT
>>
>>166666634
>all weapons clipping on random invisible crystals
My fav meme.
>>
I noticed that there is a sale going on, which mech should I get?
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Does dire whale even have any purpose now that Kodiak and Marauder IIC are in the game?
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>>166666634
(you)
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>>166666913
Every fucking time I try to play I have to deal with these fucking braindead shitstains and piggy's idea of maps. Everyone should just kill themselves, the whole game is just never ending garbage nigger cock, never seen more fucking retarded players even 1/10 this fucking retarded in any fucking online game in my fucking life, never seen maps this bad made by some fucking son of a whore with diseased shit flowing out of their gaping asshole and they put that shit into the computer and it somehow arranges itself into a map like fucking shit plexus

the players and the map rotation have gotten like times fucking ten thousand trillion more fucking retarded in the past half year or something, nothing but shit for faggots all the fucking time in every match
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>>166667554
fuck off pardo
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>>166667554
Keep us posted
>>
Can Stalker compete these days?
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>>166667440
Gigadrill and Direstar
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>>166668015
Stalker is in a good spot. Ignore anything other than 4N and 5M
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>>166668189
>Gigadrill
Is that the 8 LBX-2 Ultraviolet?
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>>166668015
Yeah I'd say it's still a generally fun game. The Call of Chernobyl overhaul really has done wonders in reinvigorating the modding scene. Hopefully Gunslinger will come out this year.
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>>166668867
I still haven't gotten around to playing CoC.
Or the new OGSE for that matter.
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>>166667440
No. Unless you happen to own the hero. Then you can 8x ac2s of your choice.

>>166667268
Get the forest doge, its a must-have.

>>166668015
It's eclipsed by the battlemaster, but still gud.
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>>166669039
Right now I'm playing CoC with STCoP and a couple other little mods and some retextures and such. Game is a solid 10/10 with just being a huge sandbox to fuck around in. CoC is only worth playing after you've beaten the core CoP campaign, storyline wise (there is a barebones story) it takes place after that. Clear Sky homies represent.
>>
>play several hours straight
>literally got 5 lance in formation during the whole fucking time
This event and game can go fuck themselves, maybe the game will be tolerable when the new tech hits but probably fucking not because it'll still be full of dogshit fucking subhumans and worthless shitty broken unbalanced maps that prevent the two playable maps from even coming up in the vote 99% of the time, fuckoff
>>
>>166668753
No, its the 15x erLL direwolf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6DF2qCd9TI
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>>166669530
k
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>>166665440

I think you can farm that one pretty easily by doing 4 man drops. I haven't tried myself yet but how hard can it be?

For now I'm just content with the easiest 5 million ever.
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Kongdrops™ happening
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>>166670662
G j Shaix
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>>166670749
who?
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>>166672323
Shaix
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>>166364670
Pirate
>>
Die gerg
>>
The Ice Ferret is bad,
but the Shadow Cat isn't very good either
>>
Why don't I see many people playing Vindicators?
>>
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>>166673725
Those are my only two mediums. What do
>>
sell them and buy something else?
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>>166675000
they're functional in a pub environment so just use 5x SPL Ferret and 2x LPL Scat until you get money for a Timby, Ebin or Crow
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>>166674532
Because they're complete trash
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>>166675715
>>166675715
time for new bread
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>>166437115
Bolt Thrower, all day erry day.
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