/lidg/ ─ Let It Die General

nth for STOP SENDING HUNTERS AT ME REEE

Any previews for the new content yet?

>>166331953
At least take off their weapons and make them unarmed, ya know?

4th FOR GIVE ME YOUR DAMN PANTS ALREADY JACKAL X

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>traveling through picking up anything I can for GOTO
>alarm sounds
>get no scoped, kid

>>166332550
c'est la vie

>>166332550
gotta bring emergency mushrooms. Slow, invisible, or fishy fungus

>>166332550
>not leaving a scratch tuber alive wherever you go

>>166332698
At this point I'm ready to quit.

They got my money and they got my frustration.

I can't keep putting myself through this shit. This isn't fun. DARK SOULS WAS FUN. This? This isn't dark souls, and this isn't fun.

>>166331801
>pants under skirt

Shit, that's kind of hot.

>>166332812
I understand your frustration.
It was a little nicer without the looming threat of jackals, among other things

>>166331398
all the secret shops sell DOD metal you dipshit

>>166332812
I ran into the jackals literally once from 1 to 40 without trying to find them. Even if they spawn you can still let it to another floor pretty easy.

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>>166332812
>Souls babies can't help but cry and stomp their feet when a game actually punishes them for failing
Classic

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He got stuck in a loop trying to melee me. Even when the guardshrooms wore off, he couldn't hurt me.

The same thing happened once I tried it again, but this time Taro was far away, so the rocket explosions lifted me back up.

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Wow, what boring box art.

>>166333043
You can see them in the game too, go to the radio in the arcade and move the camera to the right.

>>166333159
The game is TOO punishing because it's trying to get people to spend money.
>>166332850
I think he wanted an actual timer. Showing the minutes instead of a depleting meter

>>166332812
There's a lot of flexibility in Dark Souls. You'll have to lean to
deal with the constrained system Let it Die presents or quit while you're ahead.

>>166333297
>The game is TOO punishing because it's trying to get people to spend money
No amount of money can save you from a Jackal kill. Git gud.

What are the best decals and why?

is there a way to candel yoga healing once started?

>>166333278
Whatever, does the game feature english text?

>>166333087
I never got the chance. Soon as he spawned I tried taking off, then the apparently homing bullets went right up my ass.

>>166333159
>I never played a souls game I dunno the fuck I'm talking about

Ok you be quiet and listen here, faggot.

The souls games smashed your face in if you went in reckless, or took a mistep. It forced you to strategize, slow down, think before you act.

This game puts you in a box, throws you down a river, and yells "Good luck, asshole" as you try to paddle with your dick away from shit you can barely see or compensate for, only to fall down the waterfall.

I'm pretty certain the whole game is designed to make you actually pay to live, like an arcade that ramps up difficulty if you're doing well in order to force a few more quarters out of your wallet. That's not a fun game. That's a money machine.

If you were to consider if this game was actually something you bought outright, I would bet you the game would be a bit easier, since you already paid for it once, but since it's F2P, it's essentially a ploy to get you to put more quarters in because something is preventing you from progressing no matter how hard you try.

i just got my fists to 20 will that make the last boss easier

>>166333428
When you're killed, you can spend a SHIT TON of KC to retrieve your fighter, which you should only really do if they have valuable stuff on them. Which isn't fun.

>>166333547
Getting hit.

>>166332149
Nah I use to send them naked, everyone sends me hunters with fire weapons, now its fuck it 4k+ defense 5*+4 rapier and +4 death burner for everyone not on team cali. Hunters/haters are easy to deal with anyway, use shrooms and they arent a problem

>>166333659
Not really, you just need a bunch of guardshrooms.

>>166333749
about how many also how many sting shrooms

>>166333297
Maybe that's the intention of the design, but if it is they suck at it. Using money to forego punishment is just not feasible outside of token dumping, which most people who aren't huge retards will quickly learn is a terrible way to try and beat bosses, because it doesn't fix your weapons or make you do more damage, so you'll likely just die a bunch of times. It only really works for the occasional fuckup, like getting hit off a building or Jackal death right next to an escalator.

Real money to salvage is a terrible rate that nobody would want to do, and there's not much to do with DMs overall. Express is a great system and hits a good balance of cost and effect but is overpriced for European countries... They just need more uses for DMs, and maybe some cosmetic stuff, and then we're talking money.

>>166333658
Souls games don't punish you for dying, so you learn by bashing your face on something repeatedly. Let it Die does punish you, so it takes that free learning away from you and replaces it with shroom abuse. This is probably a worse method, but it's certainly not reasonably getting anyone to pay any real amount of money.

>>166333721
Those damn try hards.
I'll still send mine out with no weapons
Hope I make someone else's climb a bit easier

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>>166331801
Is there ever gonna be a content update?

>>166333659
You are not forced to kill Coen and Taro with fists. After you kill the haters they drop the weapons you had equipped.

>>166333658
>I never played a souls game I dunno the fuck I'm talking about
I played all the games.
>The souls games smashed your face in if you went in reckless, or took a mistep
Then you die and go back to the last checkpoint, all your items are still there, intact. You character doesn't receive any sort of detriment (except for Dark Souls II, which barely counts as a Souls game), you just lose a bunch of XP points that you can easily retrieve or farm for.
>This game puts you in a box, throws you down a river, and yells "Good luck, asshole" as you try to paddle with your dick away from shit you can barely see or compensate for, only to fall down the waterfall
The first levels are easy as fuck, it only starts to get hard after floor 20, and if you didn't learn a thing since then it's your fault.
>I'm pretty certain the whole game is designed to make you actually pay to live
I finished the game without spending a single cent.

>>166333448
Treasure Hunter because it tells you how many enemies (non-ambush) are in a given area as well as where all the escalators, resources, and points of interest are

Vampire to increase survivability in health-item scarce zones

The Bull series becomes insanely potent when combined with Mushrooms

>>166333851
I think somewhere you got confused. No one said anything about spending real money to progress

>>166333971
i know that i want to do this perfectly.

What is the difference between the purple and blue routes to new rooms?

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>>166333953
Yes. February at the earliest, March at the latest.

>>166334191
Escalator colors are to indicate which room you're going to from afar. So you don't need to be right next to it to know where you'll end up

>>166333851
>Souls games don't punish you for dying
When you die you lose all souls accumulated and either have to retrieve them or lose them, which in certain circumstances, can mean going through hell again.

As for the free learning, there is only so much you can do before difficulty does ramp up, being from either Jackals, or hordes.

>>166334032
>I finished the game without spending a single cent

Yea, and how much of that shroom exploit did ya use?

You want to know if the game's designed to keep you paying? How many people in this thread got upset because of the shroom exploit being patched?

You're a retard telling me to git gud while using the game's bugs to your advantage, if you were really good you wouldn't need said exploits

>inb4 I-I didn't use exploits!

>>166333953
In February 4 new bosses and weapons so probably a few new floors to go with it. But I have a feeling this update will suck and the game will die.

>>166333810
20 guards
20 stings

Last boss is a joke now. Unless you have a weak weapon. I killed them all with one 4* katana.

>>166334371
>Yea, and how much of that shroom exploit did ya use?
Zero, I only used the gold snail exploid, which doesn't actually give you unfair advantages when you're in the tower.

>>166334398
do i have to eat them before the boss room

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>>166334531
>I didn't use any exploits
>except the golden beast one

This is why PC makes fun of us.

>>166333658
you're making souls players look bad my dude

because of how check-pointing works in souls you're basically never punished for fucking up. dying once is completely free, because picking up your splat gives you back everything you might have 'lost'. even losing your splat is pretty meaningless because all you lose is your souls, never your inventory.

i haven't felt punished in souls since i fell into the frog pit in the depths and got cursed the first time i played DaS1. every other death just knocks you back to the nearest bonfire with no other cost.

>>166334549
You dont have enough death bag space to hold 40 mushrooms and a weapon. What you do is you eat them all in the waiting room, pick a weapon and go up in the elevator. The buffs will stay. If you are still worried a big you can bring slow mushrooms. Slow makes the buffs last longer.

>>166334763
thanks friend also be advised that the last boss coen is glitchy and will crash the game if killed before he pulls his bodys out

>>166334656
That's not what he said. He said he didn't use the mushroom one but used the EXP one. Which just strips the hours of grinding
What's wrong with you, senpai?

>>166334656
The only difference between duping XP and farming for it is time. You can't replace actual skill with levels in this game.
>This is why PC makes fun of us
There's no such thing as "us", I play on multiple platforms, pc included. Besides, pc has mods and savestates.

>>166334998
reminder the ps4 is a pc running bsd 9

>>166334762
>you're making souls players look bad
topkek

>haven't felt punished in souls

Nigger that wasn't even the argument. The whole thing was that LID's system was designed to nuke you as quickly as possible to force you to grind or pay for the DMs.

Unless you can honestly tell me that grinding is fun and support your claim, or tell me how Gungo ISN'T trying to take our money, then you're just trying to compare DS with an arcade game.

>>166334946
>strips the hours of grinding
Grinding for materials is still there.

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>>166334234
Oh shit take a look at this. Remember that Anon who was asking about this boots that are not in the game right now?

>>166335064
Ok.

>>166335118
top left helmet looks like a cyberman

>>166335118
>butterfly/moth boss with a giant crossbow
>boots boss is full of guns
>medusa boss
>cybernetic monk boss

>>166335118
FUCKING YES. SOON ILL BE ABLE TO MAKE MY VERY OWN WAYNE GRETZKY

>>166335118
>his most desired piece of equipment will be dropped from a new-jackal

poor anon
let's hope they change the durability

>>166335318
dude what if the moth wings act like the moth armor from dark souls 2 and poison everything around you.

>>166335076
>grinding is fun
personally i don't mind grinding because i'm still playing this piece of shit even after i beat it, but that's entirely tangential here.

>wasn't even the argument
i don't follow. if you walk in planning to just smashing your face against a boss like you do in souls, then LiD's system will come off as 'designed to make you pay', but if you work within the constraints of the system instead it feels more like a traditional rogue-like where one of the most important skills you can learn is when to run away with your tail between your legs. i'm not trying to compare a souls game and an 'arcade' game, you're the one who originally made the comparison. the biggest similarity between LiD and souls is the combat system, the meta-game is completely different. and you don't have to grind if you're good.

back to the original topic, yes goto 23 has a seemingly unreasonable amount of hp when you first get to him, enough to break your weapon. so bring two. you really should have learned to bring a backup weapon (or three) by now.

>>166335434
It would be pretty godly to fight haters. Make everyone puke.

>>166335872
The issue with GOTO is not so much weapon as the amount of shrooms.

I ran out of shrooms by the time I was killed, not to mention I still have to bring him down to enough HP for him to start searching.

I'm gonna try one more fucking time.

I have no DMs, and I'm gonna bring nothing but stingshrooms and hammers.

>>166336083
also poison eater so your constantly getting health regen

I have been exploring side rooms for a while and then use the elevator from floor 10 to the waiting room. Next thing I know a cut scene happens and I have to fight what appears to be my fighter with the same fighter naked. It is all in slow mo and has a three minute timer. What is this?

I have heard there is a way to set the radio to random. Which station is it?

>>166335118
wait a second

if that IS true

then the data for the new floors and stuff has always been a thing

they've just been waiting for the japanese to play, and hopefully catch up

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>>166336481
>Japan just joins after months of everyone
Have fun getting butt fucked in TDM

>>166336202
ive killed goto a lot of times at this point, and i don't even think mushrooms help that much with his aura

when he activates his red aura and starts looking for food, back off until he starts walking at you, then run directly at his face at a slight angle and side roll when he lunges at you. he'll be in enough recovery for you to get a quick punish in, and then you're back at neutral. you don't get a huge free attack window, but you don't really need it. the biggest constraint is your own weapon's durability, right? you can even dump a full clip of the AR into his face for headshot damage while he crawls at half speed, and after you reload then bait his lunge and do your melee punish.

you don't have to use consumables, and i didn't the first time i killed him. futzing with the touchpad is a bother either way.

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>>166336481
>game had 40 more hidden floors from the beginning
>they took December, January and half of Feb to add even more new content that wasn't already in the game

>>166336690
>>166336780
not really, with the way TDM rank works

>>166336876
I'm at tier 5 fighters but still only bronze. Can't I still fuck up their defenses?

>>166337154
TDM rank =! PVE rank

you can only invade people around your PVE rank

>>166336349
are you gotoF23 anon?

i was stuck for a couple weeks there but i just went up floors on 1 of the days in the rotation and got the next tier character and went in to the fight fully maxed out and got it first try

>>166337268
So you saying there's a rotation that goes around him?

I shall look into this.

there's gotta be a golden bird rotation day we're missing. we're post-okusa now and i've sent fighters out to floors above 30 and got back golden birds..

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I HUNGER FOR SPANISH BLOOD

>>166337327
You missed that rotation by 2 hours, and the skip won't be back until Wednesday at 7PM EST.

found knight leggings in Maka-Tsutsumi and in Okusa
one day i'll find the helmet, one day

SPAIN SOON
PENNSYLVANIA SOON

>>166337658
Doesn't matter anymore.

I lost another fighter to a couple screamers with a spear and something else.

Goodbye all.

>>166337327
>>166337268
I dont think you should get into that habit considering you probably have to go through U10 and COEN to get the F33 shortcut

>>166338101
NO MERCY FOR THE WEAK

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also easy access to wakaba is up for slightly easier red metal farm then yakata cho

>>166336690
cant wait to get salty messages from japan when cai and them fight and i send my 5* fighter after them in the tower

I think Japan is split into different parts.

Because if you look close into the monitors surrounding Tetsuo You'll see a bunch of unused logos with the Jap flag under them.

>>166338748
That's most likely the case; the JP player base is almost certainly going to be large enough to warrant separating them like the US.

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>>166338748
If that's true then no one can beat California.

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>>166337417
PLEASE INVESTIGATE FURTHER AND REPORT BACK PERHAPS?

What are war blacks for? I have a ton.

>>166339061
yer mum

>>166335076
As someone who played and beat Dark Souls 1, 3 and Bloodborne I do have to say that neither of those games punished me. Unless you use consumables in a fight, dying and going back to bonfire is equivalent of loading up your save file, you lose all souls accumulated past that point, except you can get them back.

I personally avoid the shroom exploit like fire for fear of ban and just thinking that walking around with hours of invincibility are equivalent of using Dev console or cheat engines to make yourself take no damage in Dark Souls.

I am angry when I lose, and once I got set back so much I was going to quit. I grit my teeth, got a few stored guardshrooms and evershrooms and used level one tier 5 to take back 3 of my other max level fighters by defeating them.

The game gives you many options. You don't have to max out every set in game. You have Okusa and various other rotations. You got a lot. The only grind I felt in dark souls was to get specific weapon or titanite, as I do here with blueprints. Or I ran out of vials and bullets in Bloodborne so I farmed that one lantern with easy farming for them. But in Let it Die? Grind is there, if you want everything. But play smart and conservatively.

I only used death metals for revives on floors 1 to 10 before I started spending all death metals I got on storage the moment I got them, if I only got 1 as quest reward I didn't redeem it. I haven't touched revive for however and just have to beat 40th floor boss and get all stamps. The only Ree inducing part is when I fuck up reading a map and connections... or gate valve is on the other side

>>166339061
War Ensemble weapons and armor, mostly.

>>166339061
Save them for Iron Eagle set m8.

>>166339193
I AM NOT PAST FLOOR FUCKING 23.

THERE IS NO GUARDSHROOM.

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT OKUSA IS.

I GOT NO MONEY, NO DMS LEFT, AND NO PATIENCE.

>>166339310
slow shrooms and iron kills goto9 fast level the fucking iron use the rage move bring multiple also use string shrooms while doing this

>>166339452
Iron does no damage to GOTO.

>>166339061
Sniper, Magnum, Kamas, Iron Eagle set.

>>166339509
its blunt it does plenty of damage

>>166339509
did you not upgrade it?

>>166339570
Not when you have no upgrades on it and the amount of grind makes me more irritated.

>>166339310
If you throw a couple of sting mushrooms on the ground before entering the boss arena Goto will eat them and get stunned. You have to take out half his health first.

>>166339645
>the amount of grind
>needs no boss metals
>only uses common mats

what?

>>166339697
>half health

AHAHA

HAHAH

>>166339509
it probably does 2% of his life per r1 on average, thats only 50 hits. bring two 2*+4 irons and it will be enough, im positive.

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At Floor 33-34 now. Just beat COEN.

When does the game start throwing Double Haters/Hunters at me per Floor?

>>166339509
Level the Iron as high as you can.
Look around for scorpions and pillbugs. Stomp scorpions for Stingshrooms to increase attack while lowering defense. Stomp pillbugs until stunned then shoot them for Lifeshrooms.
Use expeditions to get some crushrooms and transparungus. Use all those mushrooms and the iron and it will be very easy.

See for specifics:
http://letitdie.gamepedia.com/Beasts
http://letitdie.gamepedia.com/Shrooms

>>166339910
i mean r2, too much souls talk

can other players see your character names

>>166334037
What does the shop look like on the treasure hunter map?

>>166334075
>The game is TOO punishing because it's trying to get people to spend money.
What?

>>166334371
Losing your souls (and being able to get them back easily) is not a real punishment. Then you consider the boss example, where you wouldn't be going in with a bunch of souls anyways, effectively making dying nothing but a minor time loss - you just run right back and try again.

>>166340153
Only when they lock on, or see them in the expedition target menu

Now I keep losing my fighters to a dev hater.

I can't do this anymore.

>>166340226
so if i send one of my characters on an expedition and they attack someone and they lock on they will see the name right

>>166340175
same as the shops in the waiting room

>>166339310
Time to take a break and grind a bit. That floor will get a lot easier after you kill goto and you unlock the next grade of fighters.

Upgrade Iron.
Send expeditions while you grind.
3 stings, crush and 2 slows should be enough.

>>166340247
mushrooms

>>166340356
Had nothing. It was a dead end. Three gates closed, and dev hater pitbulled my face.

>>166340194
Shit like the jump in difficulty between don areas, Dev haters constantly being decked out in good gear, trap rooms and Taro

>>166340425
dont get cocky then and always look around for items

thats entirely your fault

i need some horrible japanese insults to name my character with to extract salt next month.

>>166340512
At this point everything my fault even when I can't do anything about it.

I've nuked every G3 defender I have gotten killed. I'm climbing from the bottom with a collector. Oh wait I can't afford the 10k.

>>166340454
How big is your freezer? You need to send expeditions for brain mushrooms. I only use them for haters and they drop good weapons and Armor.

>>166340702
It's called farming. Sometimes that even means gathering items up for a specific set of floors and exact purposes for the journey. It's rougelike in that sense, be prepared or get rekt.

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>>166340702
it is your fault because you came unprepared

not every item usable item has to be a healing item

>>166340454
Oh I was just replying to the guy who claimed
>No one said anything about spending real money to progress

Sure the game gets harder, but the mushrooms it starts handing you far, FAR fucking outscale any difficulty ups bosses present. By the godamn second boss you are literally invisible, and doing well over double damage, while the boss doesn't try to fight back or even run away from the Kevin Bacon rape happening.

The only real difficulty boost that's worth talking about is the first couple floors of a new area, as said mushrooms are not really common enough to just be using in normal combat. But on the flip side if you feel like you're getting overwhelmed you can just run away from normal combat, unless you're so insanely undergeared that you die in 2-3 hits and can't react to bad situations.

>>166340743
>They drop good weapons and armor
Ever so rarely. I wish they dropped all their intact equipment

>>166340702
>Defender for climbing

You were fighting Goto23 with this? They dont do damage.

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>>166339310
Okusa Golden Snails: Go to or send fighters on expeditions to Okusa for Golden Snails. Eating them gives 4500XP for leveling fighters and they sell for 7450KC. If you go in person, bring a live beast to throw and knock them off the walls.

>>166340903
Neither did my Striker.

>>166339061
Phantom soldier boots

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>>166331801
Jesus christ what the fuck do I do to stop getti g raped by hammer enemies bum rushing me on level one? They attack faster than me. Recover faster, attack through eash other and deal more damage.

>>166339310
jesus christ Fromdrones are just sad

>>166340982
I had to kill F26 Goto with my fists while huffing snail fumes. Quit yer bitchin'

>>166340979
2 things:
-Okusa is out of rotation right now
-Bring 2 or more live beasts to throw and knock down the golden snails. Some beasts fall or run into the fire or get stuck in a wall.

>>166341050
bait out attacks and punish

no mushroom required

>>166341139
>fromdrones

Nice buzzword, faggot, lay off the fumes from PS4's burning plastic and stop thinking this shit has anything to do with Dark Souls.

>>166341050
the hammer is the easiest weapon to interrupt . wait until the swing once then simply hit them as they wind up their second swing

in fact that's pretty much the strategy for the entirety of the game. bait an attack then punish the whiff

>>166331801
how many invis shrooms do i stuff my craw with so i can zoom up floors, grabbing mats and shit? on F23, don't want to fight the boss

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>>166339310
But okusa won't be up for like 69 more hours.
If you're too whatever to pay attention to all the people constantly saying when it is Okusa time or asking if it is Okusa yet you can check.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FZaurCKcOm5ucUEBjSEAe2gYEX9nL89sBmC_VgmdfNA/edit?usp=sharing
or
http://letitdie.gamepedia.com/Tower_of_Barbs

>>166340982
No damage with striker? What weapons were you using? Remember to use decals. You can buy them with gold. They are cheap.

>>166341050
it's level fucking one ONE (1) (uno) (一) (מען) (واحد)

GET GOOD

>>166341394
Hammer+. Did 100 per hit.

>>166341427
hammer is shit

>>166333058
are they set in places for everyone or just in random dead end levels?

>>166341371
You can get a rank 4 character without killing GOTO with the right rotation. Just go rank 4, level up your character and the first 20 floors will be extremely easy except for haters.

>>166340848
That was me. And I wasn't thinking clearly when I said that.
I was mostly thinking of DMs to survive so one could keep their BPs and materials
And I was thinking of the game being too punishing because early into new areas, you don't have the mushrooms to deal with everything and 1 midboss can run your supply dry since you don't do enough damage yet. And you can't get the fighters with higher level caps until you surpass those midbosses, in most cases

>>166341427
1*? Anyway the Iron does a lot more damage. Another thing are quests. Remember to do them for easy upgrade materials and gold.

>>166341270
>wah dark souls is so good because i paid for it and let it die is bad because I can't adapt!!!!!

yeah of course they're entirely different games. but people still love to bring up dark souls as an example for comparisons to this game. getting stuck on floor 23 then blaming the game for your shortcomings is just laughable when at that point anyone can have everything they need to make progress with zero grinding

>>166341529
it's nearly impossible to run out of mushrooms if you're sending out expeditions

>>166341639
>DS isn't the focus of the issue with the game
>literally strawmanning
At that point even with grinding I was fine until 23.

Anything else stupid you wanna say or can I quit this cancer now?

>>166341664
You don't always get the mushrooms
And I can't constantly send expeditions. My reward is getting full of SPL and Emergency gold

>>166341639
At this point every third person action game is being called "Souls like".

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>>166341529
True, those are difficulty spikes. Getting past that hump to unlock the next grade of fighter is the only time when you can truthfully call the game hard, as the equipment of that tier is generally balanced for the next higher grade of fighter that you don't have access to.

Giving incentive to token dump in those situations though, I can't really call that an objective of the difficulty bump. It's a pretty short period of time, and token dumping for aforementioned reasons doesn't really help that much as it doesn't fix the base reason you died in the first place, which is generally being under-geared/unprepared.

Really I just feel like DMs outside of storage aren't a very good 'spend your money on this game!' item. They don't offer enough and they don't really let you power through shit you didn't adequately prepare for. Express Passes are great monetized items.

You may be right in that the difficulty spikes and pretty harsh punishment for death may have been tailored to try and push DM sales, but they accomplish pushing people to get frustrated and quit way better. DM should be offered as an alternative cost to salvage (that's not converting them to KC at a total garbage rate) at the very least, then it would be reasonable to call them a way to pay to avoid punishment and would probably make the game some more money.

>>166341774
yup, don't let the door hot you on the way out you literally braindead retard. bye :)

it can't possibly be that bad if everyone else managed to do it except you lol

>>166341782
>You don't always get the mushrooms
what does that even mean

you can kill every midboss with just toughshrooms and stingshrooms, and upgrade tough to guard once they're available

all 3 of those are ridiculously common

>>166342030
You sound like a massive try hard.

Please consider suicide.

>>166342016
Or just have a DM cosmetic store.

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>>166342030
YOU ALL USED THE MUSROOM GLITCH, THIS GAME IS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT CHEATING OR BUYING DM
YOU WANT PROOF?
I DIE ALL THE TIME

>>166341782
Yes, you can. Just take all your SpL out (maybe with the exception of massive chunks) and buy something from Tetsuo or upgrade stuff if you can. Take some of the money out and buy decals or rare materials from Gyakufunsha wandering shop. Sell all the boring mushrooms or use them constantly and stockpile the important ones. Do quests or TDM fights for some DM for extra mushroom storage. Buy extra collectors for extra mushroom storage. Spend that SPL on freezer slots to buy people to send out on expeditions and then put mushrooms in them.
love,
momoko yamada

>>166341782
Dude learn to organize items and keep stock of what you need as you need it. Don't be dumb.

>>166342084
I hobo geared my way from start to finish. It was difficult, yeah, but never once did I blame the game for mistakes I know I made. unlike you who can't possibly fathom the fact that you may just not be understanding mechanics well enough or that you're simply not very good at this genre of games

>>166340194
>The game is TOO punishing because it's trying to get people to spend money.

That's very common with F2P games that rely on micro transactions for money, though. Make the game start out just easy enough to get players comfortable, then throw in needless, fluctuating difficulty curves to frustrate them into caving and paying for whatever you're shilling. That's what shit like Candy Crush is based entirely around.

>>166342260
You know I can tell you there's one more commonality with LID and DS.

Same community. Blame the player, not their precious game.

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is it me but when you get down to it and actually play this game properly, the elevators to the waiting room are spaced a little too closely?

but then again, I might be TOO used to god's gift to man aka Treasure hunter

>>>/v/365027470

>>166342249
Yeah, those are pretty good ideas. I should get over my fear of having a bunch of SPL to become a raid target. I just wish there was more to spend it on.

>>166342490
what a shit thread

>>166342490
>I Have Never Played a Roguelike: The Post

>>166342373
if you can't admit when something is your fault then you're pretty pathetic

every death I had I know exactly why it happened and how I could have avoided it, then instead of whining that I died I went back to it with the knowledge I had about what to do to avoid the same death. if you can't handle a game that very readily gives you so many resources to trivialize every single aspect of it then just stop playing it

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>>166341774
I killed GOTO 23 with a pickaxe. One grilled stingshroom, one grilled crushroom, and a slowmungus. Ironically the slowmungus actually kinda fucked me over because charge time is based on 'time' passing, meaning you can't charge attacks while using slowmungus. I used a second stingshroom to feed to him and get a charge attack off that did almost as much as his max hp in one hit.

Just bring a weapon that can do high damage per hit and plan a little, he's not that tough.

>>166342140
Oh man there's tons of stuff they could do to make money.

DMs to buy materials like colored metals (personally I wouldn't put tier 5 mats in there but the jew may be strong), alternate salvage cost, raid protection, rare mushroom DM shop, alternative payment for base upgrades..

As for cosmetics: hairstyles, skin replacements (get rid of the sockets or change skin color), cosmetic equipment slots so you could have gear that doesn't lose durability and only affects how you look, minor cosmetics like scarves, tattoos, super saiyan aura effects - whatever.

A pet that could take some of your deathbag back and put it into storage for you while you're out in the tower, maybe just a cosmetic pet like a butterfly following you around, maybe the pet picks up KC/SP for you automatically.

I'm sure I've forgotten some stuff I've said before.

>>166342358
True, I'm just arguing that either Let it Die is trying not to go mega-jew, or are just really bad at it.

>>166342716
>>A pet that could take some of your deathbag back and put it into storage for you while you're out in the tower, maybe just a cosmetic pet like a butterfly following you around, maybe the pet picks up KC/SP for you automatically.
maybe it'd be a thing for express pass

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>Get 7k points during a fight
>46.5k KC and SP
>Get 1k during the next one
>42k KC and SP
Are there really not tiered rewards for fights, it's just 1k to get 95% of the max reward?

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>third Tier Kamas
>Durability goes down before Ammo depletes
>get it to +3
>durability only goes to 33% when you run out of ammo

the bounce to B to A durability rating is great

>>166342834
I was thinking a one-time pay alternative to express pass actually. Like something pretty high like $30, but it's permanent. You don't get free elevator rides, and your bag is still limited in size so you have less ability to mega-stock mushrooms for bosses, but it would let you stay out on longer trips and use non-Collector for lengthy gathering.

Oh right and I forgot making the vending machine stuff available for DMs. Tryptamine-D for 2 DM would probably prompt some impulse purchases.

>>166342912
its more like how much you do

you'd probably get more KC and SPlith if you Kidnapped waifus

>>166342373
That's the thing putting me off with this game more than anything. It has some serious flaws and 50% of them can be attributed to the F2P model it's following. They really can't be ignored.

To use the Souls games as a point of comparison, I never felt like Bloodborne was cheap or unfair. Any bullshit moments it had were like learning experiences that punished you for impatience; you had done recovery time for your mistakes. With LID, you can get raped even for making the tiniest wrong move, and it really irks me that the number one response to this is always "WELL YOU WEREN'T FARMING MUSHROOMS GO SEARCH FOR THIS SPECIFIC ONE THAT HAS A 1 IN 10 CHANCE OF APPEARING YOU SHITTER". Like the fact that you even have to exploit what should be an optional mechanic just to get past common ground floor enemies is really telling of this game's balancing issues.

>>166343081
or you could actually gear up properly

>>166339509
I upgraded Iron because there was next to no grind in doing it. A +4 second grade iron is easiest thing ever.

I just popped two slowshrooms and stings before and done

>>166343081
>you even have to exploit what should be an optional mechanic
You mean using appropriate equipment? That shouldn't be optional.

>>166342716
>True, I'm just arguing that either Let it Die is trying not to go mega-jew, or are just really bad at it.

I think they never should have chosen to base their income around continues, t b h, because it's come at the expense of making a balanced, accessible game for newcomers. They should have played up the express elevator gimmick or come up with some new optional features like buying mini games (new arcade machines) for the arcade, or stuff to make your waiting room look cool. They shot themselves in the foot by basing their difficulty around a pay model; many normies are going to give up before they shell out money to continue in this.

>>166343081
you're not exploiting anything by using a fucking mushroom. every souls game has buffs too, that's exactly what shroom are. Floor climbing isn't hard if you're not trying to race through everything and trying to win DPS battles against enemies you have no chance against. and bosses can mostly be done without shrooms. Jin-Die you stay close, and the later versions you just have to watch for the lightning. Coen is about as simple as a boss can be, though his later tankiness can lead you into making mistakes. Goto is tanky as well, but is pretty mechanically simple, the rolling and jump slam can be hard to avoid if you're expending all of your stamina all the time. U-10 I'd say just use shroom on, can be done without them, but she can stunlock you pretty easily if you fuck up once. all the dons are easy, and Taro again just stack guard shrooms that you'll have plenty of by that point

>>166343536
and most streamers are pretty bad at it so it does give a bad impression

but it doesnt seem like they'd make it any easier either

>>166343316
Slowshrooms and Transparagus SHOULD be optional though. Same with Guardshrooms and Fundhrooms. You shouldn't need them to win the game.

>>166343839
you dont actually

they just make the fight a piece of cake

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>>166343081
I'm going to give you the response others are giving you but phrase it in a way that should hopefully be easier to swallow.

When you are dying it is because you are under-geared, made a massive mistake, or didn't understand the options available to you. One of these three things is always true and only the third one is the game's fault occasionally.

>I died in 2 hits
Your armor was too low for the enemies you're trying to fight, either it's basically broken or you're using last tier's armor.

>I got endlessly combo'd with no chance to escape
Rage attacks cannot be stunned and are great 'get me out of here' cards - the game's not abundantly clear about this use of rage attacks though. This can also fall under massive mistake, as you aggro'd a bunch of enemies you weren't prepared to handle.

I'm going to post my own video of getting killed, which kind of looks like bullshit (certainly made me mad when it happened) but is very certainly my own fault.

1. going for a suplex, got a frankensteiner, hit the ceiling - I didn't know that would happen.
2. obviously I could've just attacked and killed the naked hater, but I was surprised by the first point and trying to switch to a weapon to fight a rapier (honestly had not found many of them at this point) so there's a massive mistake
3. I'm wearing hobo gear from 21-30 that's nearly broken instead of any of my own gear with decent defense. If I had been wearing strong armor I wouldn't have gotten groggied from the first combo and could've reset the situation.

>>166343536
Absolutely, any income they're getting right now is from people who legitimately like the game and want to support it, and that's not a great strategy for a f2p as nice as it sounds. They need to bait in more cheap money.

>>166343839
It's either shrooms or knowledge, you can do it with either.

Psst just a little tip for simulations.if you do an l2/r2 punch on the last hit on banks, you can eat two snails before you get kicked backed. That is all

>>166343081
ironic that you mention bloodborne, which was a step backwards from souls along those lines. in bb you had to farm for vials if you ran out, unlike estus which always refills.

and i mentioned above that using mushrooms on goto is not required. see my post here for actual goto strats >>166336740

>>166343081
>50% of them can be attributed to the F2P model it's following
>mushrooms should be an optional mechanic
the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME is about managing an inventory full of disposable, breakable, consumable, and quickly degrading items you idiot

>>166344023
cant you buy vials after a certan point

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>>166343930
a good idea to help newer players is let them have access to repair shrooms , but they need to work for it to be a thing

SP lith costs can add up

>>166344156
they patched in easier buying of vials and the dlc had a hyper easy "farm" point for this

if yo uwant to complain about limited healing items go complain about nioh

>>166344156
>>166344250
maybe they patched it, at release i remember going back to the cleric beast lantern and farming a bunch once i gear near endgame because the levels had pretty much stopped dropping them.

>>166344250
elixirs weren't even hard to come across either. especially since you can get the shrine buff for more drop rate

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>>166344169
speaking of which, I bet they definately had repair shrooms in early game builds/had mushroom club ACTUALLY DEAL with mushrooms and be the mushroom version of Chokufunsha

but realized the game was made too easy

>>166344378
the main difference is they changed the storage from 99 to 600 for bullets and vials which makes it easy to stock up in easy portions and smooths the difficulty curve.

>>166344435
they should be buyable or craftable though.

>>166342410
No, you've just gotten good and forgot about the scramble when you get lost in six side rooms.

>>166342568
SpL is stupid. Just spend it if you can and spend all your money down by buying backup gear and stew when you head out. Save only the big quest and rewards in your rewards box for emergency retrieval. You make way more money sending out expeditions frequently and selling the beasties. Extra extra money when you get gold beasts.

I am drowning in mushrooms.


(n i love it)


mushrooms are not cheating
ppl just expect to rush everyone or take on dev haters many levels higher than them head on right away.

Think I hit a wall with 23f goto, I bring trans, slows, +4 iron and maybe a rifle or nail gun, best armors, stings, crushes, and every time I go up against him I slowly get him to yellow health territory before running out of resources and slowly dying. Even wasted a brainshroom on his red phase.

I want to climb the tower but the game apparently doesn't want me to, guess I'll just keep farming the metals I can get right now (a few blacks from the floors below).

>>166344023
>in bb you had to farm for vials if you ran out
That's not a thing unless you really are shit at video games. Also, i didn't know that DeS had estus.

>>166344616
bring more weapon.

>>166343029
I mean... you could exchange a death metal for 5000 KC.

why.

>>166343703
I have seen someone just beat goddamn TARO easily without any shrooms. Dude was impressive and did a breakdown of each of Taro's attacks and how to avoid them

>>166342986
sure, but then you are left with a weapon that has durability, but no ammo

>>166344616
+4 **iron or +4 *Iron?

>>166344774
please share

>>166344837
rage attack bro

>>166343081
I agree the game has balance issues with the spikes and punishment being too severe at the start but I dont agree with the mushrooms. For climbing you dont need to farm specific mushrooms because frog mushrooms are outside the waiting room in the train area with no enemies. Those mushrooms shut down any screamer and hater.

Now for boss fights I think is shitty. Yeah you can fight and kill them without mushrooms but the risk and punishment is so high that why would you want to? So you save these specific op mushrooms to fight bosses and every boss fight is the same easy encounter. Then you realize this game is all about grinding and preparation and no actual skills like the devs said. Mushrooms are major theme and they want you to abuse them so do it. Everything is covered in fungus, enemies die and turn into mushrooms, npcs wear masks to avoid mushroom fumes, the mushroom lady tells you without mushrooms nothing makes sense and its true.

>>166344871
https://youtu.be/0Yf8wxa1cpM

>>166344616
2 irons upgraded as far as possible. 4 stings and 4 cloaks (can do it with 2 of each easily but just to be safe) open up the fight with 1 cloak and 1 sting. run to the side of him and hit with iron until he goes red, throw a sting on the ground and pop another sting, hit him while he eats and then go to town while he's stunned from the shroom. if he's still alive eat another cloak and sting to finish it off.

>>166344639
well you sure put me in my place with that post. i hope you're not the same guy whos wiping to goto23 because if you are i regret trying to explain how to kill him without consumables. did you even play bb at release or was it the patched version that lets you stock 600?

don't even get me started on how fucking dumb grass is in DeS, being able to carry 99 full healing items makes any game a complete joke.

>>166344562
I say fuck it become a target, I get random people invading me all the time, I place all my defenders in the platform so they can't invis steal the resources and give them a variety of machetes, irons, and guns, some of which are just scavenged as is all the armor. Really funny to watch the recap - "player encountered Mike! player encountered Sarah! player encountered Matilda! player killed Matild-player is dead". Put your toughest guys up front so the invader has a better chance of getting swarmed. If the dude wants to cheese it with invis to suplex everyone? Well enjoy your 2000 lithium I guess.

If you're in cali you're rarely gonna get invaded anyway with the amount of people there. I was doing the "spend everything on upgrades" and then I accidentally got all the freezer and four restroom upgrades so I don't really have any big dumps anymore (banks are at 13)

>>166344616
Make sure you bring the right class too. I used a striker with 1 sting, 1 slow and 1 gamble. Decals help a lot too. I had a premium super hero, superalloy and vampire setup

>>166344774
yeah I know it can be done, everything can be done without shrooms. but for the average player I'd still say just bring as many as you can get

>>166339057
i just started trying to figure this pattern out for my /vg/ bros. fuck you reddit.

>>166345256
>>166337417
Kohashi, rotation 4. It's not golden birds. Look for Kohashi in the archives if you want to know more because I've already explained this quite a few times.

>>166344616
The game doesn't give a shit.
-Make sure your armor is up to snuff.
-Goto is weak to blunt and Iron is particularly effective for some reason so skip the nail gun and rifle and just bring many irons
-Get enough mushrooms from expeditions if you are having trouble

-Try swapping around your decals to see if you can't find a better combination.
-Probably should be using a striker for Goto or a collector completely full of trans, slow, sting, crush. I had the best luck eating a few slow and then sting and crush at the same time in order to maximize damage at once and never had a problem.
(I have never even fed goto a mushroom)

>>166345114
>>166345024
>>166344869
>>166344719

Thanks for advice

2 star +4 iron, deathburner is next upgrade

I used a lucky star first, then a collector because I heard you have to make it to 25f after (everyone else is on defense) but I do have a maxed striker I can switch out.

I cheesed 11f goto with assault rifle but the defense on this one is a little strong for that.

>>166345059
Oh. I have never really put up defenders because I seem to make more than they could take with sending out expeditions. I don't really see the point of defense but maybe I'm just dense.

>>166345492
bringing an AR too isnt a bad idea

shoot 1 clip into his face while he's red and moving slowly

>>166345492
offense classes are what you want for climbing and bosses, yeah. Striker is best until you get to 5* fighters then they go to shit

>>166345706
For me it's just the trophy but considering I'm 7 and 5 I'm going to have to switch from cali if I want to get that before grading up.

Also if you rank up fast enough you should be able to revenge raid someone while they're offline and you're a tier ahead of them.

What is the point of sending fighters to invade for longer than an hour?

Why does lucky star and all rounder exist?

>>166346043
higher chance of actually encountering them, and you get more items (not more than 1h expeditions, do it if you're going to stop playing)

>>166346071
Lucky star for grinding kc
All rounder because it's a starter class

>>166346071
>Why does lucky star and all rounder exist?
>lucky star

to get mad dosh
>all rounder
as the very very very last back up if you some how run out of money and killed all your good fighters like an idiot

>>166346071
the luck stat actually has a meaningful impact on gold income, around 30% more than your striker or what have you

allrounder is a noobtrap

>>166345256
Wait, what? I just wanted to add it to the rotation sheet, if you found anything good but whatever.

I mean, I get that there are some shitty redditors ripping off people's work and the whole points for posts and self-promotion stuff built in is weird but idk. I don't like any of these websites but they have provided a valuable resource for this game and like at least 1/4 of the ppl in these threads seem chill enough.

I got distracted and completely forgot what i was writing about so ..

>>166346071
I use a max luck Lucky Star with the increased kc decal and treasure hunter to farm stuff. don't really need the space of a collector and getting like double the kill coins per trip adds up nicely

>>166346164
But all rounder costs gold after Grade 1. Thats what confuses me. If he was free then yeah it makes sense but if I have the gold why would I buy him over the other ones?

>got two gold scorpions from one set of expeditions
>not sure what floor I sent them on

Shit, it was possibly 36 or 11 since I had 5wo sent to each, but knowing for sure would help out in jackal hunting

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I just spent 4.5 hours unlocking the rest of my Crowley's area Okusa day rooms. 2.5 hours spent BACKTRACKING FUCK VALVES ALWAYS BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATES.

>>166346314
There is a gold decal? How do I get it?

>>166346459
express member reward only

>>166336481
turns out you can datamine ps4 games but it involves having a devkit and using the same pfs exploit used on the vita to dump games.

>>166346360
The floors list on the wiki isn't great but what it does have better than other places is valve locations and unlock info.
http://letitdie.gamepedia.com/Tower_of_Barbs

Add that to one of the maps and it is... let frustrating.

>>166346332
Consistency, they can't make all rounders a permanent free class but at the same time they can't not have them at the other tiers.

>>166346530
So you gonna start a kickstarter to buy a devkit now or what

>>166346574
they could still be cheaper. there's no point to the higher tier ones at all the way its implemented.

If you could have a tuber as a household pet. Which one would it be?

>>166344464
>mushroom club ACTUALLY DEAL with mushrooms
I think so too, the decals have pretty much nothing to do with Momoko, she doesn't even mention them.

>>166346730
Scratch tubers are kinda just slow cats

>>166346664
nope just getting that out there also sonys been cracking down on people selling them , going after ebay sellers and such so its best to convince some one that already has one to dump the data for us.

>>166346851
Can I have a cat tuber?

>>166346730
Bullet as a sex slave pet.

>>166346930
hover tuber has nicer tits

>>166346826
The skill decals are obviously transdermal patches that slowly release mushroom derived performance enhancers into your fighter's system tho...?

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>>166347006
>to smart to use decals

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What's the best floor to farm Jackals?

>>166347003
But I cant fuck tits and she has no bottom half.

>>166347297
first floor

>>166347303
Stop.

>>166347297
Uncle Death looks tall as fuck in that image but he's actually an ultra-manlet

>>166347303
>can't fuck tits

t. pencil dick that can't handle a REAL tuber

>>166347303
Just get a handy from a scratch tuber.

>>166347558
>pound it once
>it dies

>>166347963
not if you shell out for mk4 at least

>grade 6 fighters in update
>sending them to boss rooms have a chance of bringing back boss metals

I can dream.

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I wasted a surprising amount of time making the little mark at the top.

What's the best weapon to shred armor senpai?

getting sick of fucking my main weapons durability up in the 30+ floors exploring

>>166349350
Deathburner and Wand.

>>166349350
is it the death burner? or has anyone experimented with maxing a buzzsaw to hold in the off hand to shred hater's armor?

>using the one lithium loots to bring your lithium to exactly 10000

Well there's a use I guess.

spent the last hour of my taster pass going up and down from waiting room to 11 mata and 20 hachiyama looking for transparagus. not a damn one to be found, but got 5 silver shrooms. wooooo....

>>166349350
I picked up a few upgraded flame wands from dev haters and they burn off armor really damn quickly. do surprisingly alright damage too, even in the 30s

Deathburner is more practical though

Can anyone explain me how does the metro fighting works? I just picked my nation as my team.

Its just invading a random enemy team member waiting room like dark souls? You fight the guy or his defenders or something?

>>166340979
why not kamoto, nokejiri to okusa?

>>166348582
this is nice

>>166349673
I pull at least 1 from each round of expeditions to the 10s, sometimes more. try sending them to floors 16-20. that seems to be what worked best for me. also does anyone know what they bring back from floor 40? I sent out all 9 and 3 of them to floor 40 and got 4 fun fungus in that round, but I didn't check whether the ones in 40 brought them back or not

>>166340979
okusa was yesterday anon?

>>166349717
>few upgraded flame wands from dev haters and they burn off armor really damn quickly. do surprisingly alright damage too, even in the 30s

damage is nice because it triples the amount of projectiles that come out

but you have to be close for all them to hit

>>166349971
I prefer Maka Tsutsumi - Shimo Omeno - Nokejiri - Okusa. Maka Tsutsumi never changes layout, Shimo will always be the left escalator and Shimo is small that you can dart to Nokeijiri. Kamoto I find too big with changing layouts so you can waste time if you go the wrong way

one max collector holding 42 sting shrooms.
one max collector holding 42 guard shrooms.

but where the fuck is the transparagus >:O

>>166350358
Sometimes in Maka Tsutsumi, sometimes in Nokejiri. It's a rare one

>>166340979
>bring a live beast

So that's where I've been messing up, I've been throwing cooked frogs/snails/scorpions at them

thanks guys for all the help you gave me i just beat the final boss you where all truly huge help

is there a trophy list somewhere?

>>166350113
oh, didn't actually notice that. might go ahead and max them out

now if only i could find any paladin set bps so i could send out dickass fire wizard hunters to everyone

sigh.......
6th judges gavel
one of the others promoted

>>166350743
heres a tip the flame wands final and near final forms leave lava on the floor this will stick to enemies and peel off armor but it also has another use if you shoot it on to the ground it can be used to cook your food this is usefull on levels 30+ where there is no fire

>>166349971
>>166350121
I thought the person I was responding to had not yet been to Okusa and that it was locked from one side and that was the unlock path. I got it from the wiki and drew on the picture but I don't remember whether it was locked or the path to it because I just do expeditions anyway.

Man its so hard to defend against raids. Any tips?

>>166350050
If you are the person I was responding to: yes.

If not, I was responding to a post that included: "I DO NOT KNOW WHAT OKUSA IS." and was trying to explain.

>>166351471
Oh. I was just saying my preferred route to take when okusa is in rotation
>>166351527
Don't bother. It's not really worth it except for a trophy. Try to spend all your KC or SPL before you log off to not become a target. If you wanna save money, leave some large chunks from expeditions, quests and TDM bonuses in the rewards box for when you need them

How do i capture people on raids? I can never get one.

>>166350670
no.
trophies are stupid.

How do I unlock the f29 Banzei-Hyakkoku gate? Someone told me defeat all ambushes in Okano and Banzei. Someone fucking lied to me. Ya happy?

>>166351769
It's chance

>>166351776
You have to do it at least three more times.

Naked.

>>166351776
gates are opened by killing bosses

>>166351937
I've already beaten Crowley and defeating all ambushes in Okano is what let me open the Okano gates. Now that I think about it, this one is probably a bug. What a waste of 45 minutes.

So what weapons will benefit the most if they fix the durability damage issue for top tier weapons?

I'm thinking the death burner iron, but cleaver Sabre 5* could be insane

Hey 4chan do you remember when that niggerfaggot Reddit exposed the premium decal duping glitch and the dev's patched it like right away?

was anyone ever actually banned from doing that excessively??

just curious senpai

>>166352113
did you beat both jindie and coen on the lower levels

>>166352227
no

>>166352292
the gate he's referring to has nothing to do with bosses. i had the same issue and found no way to resolve it

hey how do i open the red paths

>>166349956
You set up defenses and the invaders fight them, no pvp involved.
Join California, changing teams is free when you do it for the first time.

ive beat the game and there are still locked red escalators why

>>166348582
awesome. are you still actively updating the online doc?

>its an 'every hunter has a cleaver saber' episode again
good thing i queued up an hour of invuln for you cucks

>>166351776
>>166352406

is it a blue or pink gate? those are deadends or sometimes one-way like the one after finishing the 10f boss

>>166353027
What about raiding? It gave me some option to do that or some shit.

>>166353192
it's not a gate that shows up on the map. it's like the one in Shinko-bashi that you have to beat both Coen and Jin-die to release both valves. except the one in Banzei is not tied to any bosses

>>166353169
Yeah the formatting's kinda fucked because a bunch of people have touched it in various ways, but all the info in the image is in the google doc in the OP.

Also has other pages with other shit I've tracked, like what floors have what mushrooms, droprates, other shit I've already forgotten. It's just that none of it's really conclusive/solid.

>>166353223
You visit another guy's base, kill his characters (npc) and stealpart of his money. Sometimes you can kidnap his characters too, they can get them back by rainding you and winning or paying ransom.

Pastebin is a lie. 33rd stamp is not in Uchinobu

Why would anyone ever pick a Skill Master

>>166355042
Jackal farming.

Decal staking

>>166355042
because they are really flexible, especially when you have really good decals

>>166355042
4 bulls 2 barbarians 2 slashers 1 serial killer

>>166353329
Btw, I meant to tell you that if you want to add rotation info anywhere on that sheet for convenience or whatever I have the formulas adjusted for that time zone so if you feel like it you can paste them into any cell on the sheet.

Current Rotation:
=mod(datedif(date(2016,12,16),(now()+(1/3)),"D"),4)+1

Next Rotation Text Countdown:
="Next rotation in: "&int(LEFT(text((int((now()+(1/3)))+1)-(now()+(1/3)),"HH:MM"),2))&" hours, "&int(right(text((int((now()+(1/3)))+1)-(now()+(1/3)),"HH:MM"),2))&" minutes."

Login Bonus text countdown:
="Login bonus in: "&int(left(text(time(10,0,0)-(now()+(1/3)),"HH:MM"),2))&" hours, "&int(right(text(time(10,0,0)-(now()+(1/3)),"HH:MM"),2))&" minutes."

>>166349449
buzz can deal damage while blocking
not much, but at least you can shred some armor while your blocking

it goes 3 hits, 3 hits, 6 hits for its combo so at least it hits 12 times if all 3 hits connect

>>166354927
Midorisaka though, right?

what does luck effect besides crit?
is a lucky star worth it?

>>166355398
You get more kill coins and luck yields more items from expeditions.

>>166349449
as a lover of the buzzsaw, I currently have the 3* Buzzsaw Masher+3 and I love it, certainly not on the same level as the katana, which I'm currently working on at 4*+1, but I find it to be a great weapon to use if you want to save your better ones.

Word of warning though, the buzzsaw is NOT a boss viable weapon, the combo takes too long when even the iron could do more in a shorter time, haven't tried it on F38 Jin-die though yet, whose weak to slash, using a slowshroom, the rage and a full combo may do considerable damage.

for 1v1 fights, I find my Buzzsaw Masher to be great, as long as you don't mind spending a bit of extra time on a enemy to save your better weapons. I recommend iron parrying and following up with the whole buzzsaw combo, usually, the attacks stun the enemy long enough for each hit to connect and just melt their armor.

I also find that my buzzsaw lasts for quite a while, even if the dmg goes to crap when it's near breaking, in the double digits, but even then, like the iron, it's use is to shred armor and it does that very well until the moment it breaks.

Despite me loving it though, if you had to chose between the Death Burner or the Buzzsaw Masher, go for the Death Burner first.

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>>166355202
Neato, I'll jot it down in my notes worksheet.

I made it to floor 37, cheesed my way through the boss gauntlet. What's expected on the last three floors? Or do I gotta do some more gauntlet diggeridoo to get to the end. I would like to put this game to rest pretty soon.

Also, I bought a t5 character is that bad for a casual? Like I kinda imply once I get to the top I think I'm done.

ok, so what do i lose when i die?
i lose everything i fucking picked the FUCK UP, right? i can't EVER get it back unless i fucking use a DM to rez?

>>166356097
If you spend DM you instant resurrect with all your stuff. If you die and go back to base you lose it all. You can spend coins to recover your body but it will be stripped.

Jackals kill you without the option to resume either. Your body is stripped.

>>166356097
go to the freezer and pay the salvage cost
you get them back with everything they had, including money

so say you had 10k on you and the salvage cost is 10k you essentially paid nothing to revive. never ever use DM to revive

>>166356097
If you recover with coins you get to keep everything on you including your money. If you go kill your hater you lose everything.

>>166356201
fucking worse than any souls game
you can bet if they did that shit, no one would play it because they would keep losing all their unique shit and never get it back

i could care less about losing money, but shit, it hurts losing a shit ton of mats just because a hater came out of fucking nowhere and one shots you.

>>166333658
No amount of money can save you from the jackals, dipshit.

>>166356386
he's wrong
you don't lose anything if you pay the salvage cost

same goes for dying to jackals

don't listen to retards spreading misinformation

>>166341491
dod black are on 20 something

he rotates between 2 floors. but what i do for dod black and bullet metal is find wherever he is in the current rotation then go between his floor and the previous one farming the hater till you got enough to buy what you need.
then wait an hour inbetween floors, the loading screen.

then repeat. he will restock and he wont move. makes things alot less stressful.

>>166356201
youre just wrong

why post wrong shit?

>>166356386
>it hurts losing a shit ton of mats just because a hater came out of fucking nowhere and one shots you.

more like you where blasting music so hard you couldnt hear the hater cursing like a sailor

its pretty easy to detect them IF YOUR CAREFUL

I was really hoping they'd fix ERR-0-002 during that short maintenance. Or cycle their servers or something at least.

48 ERR-0-002 to send out 9 expeditions, that's over 5 errors on average just to send someone out.

So yesterday I spent a good hour farming Jackals and all I got was coins.

Today I'm getting nothing but their damn trousers.

What gives?

>>166357167
this
nothing in this game can really blindside you if you're not being completely oblivious

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>>166357201
Maybe you'll get nothing but blueprints the next day.

>>166357187
are you sure its not your own network connection? i've gotten that a few times but it was always when comcast was taking a shit.

>>166357837
Nah I thought that and have ran tests, but it's extremely consistent and has been getting worse week after week. Before it was like 1 error every now and again, now it's between 1 and 12 errors per expedition.

>>166357987
i just got that error trying to acess tesuo, i wanna fight soon, but its gonna be a pain in t he ass if i cant even get to the raid menu with out it crashing out

>>166358064
I've heard people get this error in lots of places, but for me I've only ever gotten it from expeditions. It's bizarre, I can't really imagine what's causing it given the nature of when it appears for different people.

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Yo, /lidg/, I'm about to make the final push from 37 to 40 pretty soon, but I gotta prepare a bit. Is Jindie on the path to the final boss? Also, how many Weeb blades/Transparungus will I need for the final boss himself?
I'm that 6 Hour Anon, and I'm going full austismo with the guardshrooms again when I start
Thanks for teaching me the trick btw /ligd/, I would've had to spend hours fighting Coen and Goto-9 on that run. You guys are pretty cool Senpais

>>166358180
i've gotten it riding the fucking escalator, but again, it was when comcast was shitting the bed. i think its the catch-all network failure error code.

>>166358064
>>166358180
yee bois, ive been reading dorohedoro, its quite a bit like let it die, ill try playing again when the fight starts

>>166358203
bring 4 if you want to clear the levels and kill the boss. use stingshrooms on the bosses to save durability. and yeah you have to kill jin-die too.

>>166358203
man, i wish i had more invis shrooms
i lose track of how many i ate too, so i can't count the time i have

i want to message the devs to put in an actual timer for buffs. nothing huge, just like x seconds, then x mins once your over 59 secs

I just went from the waiting room to Hyakudori for the first time with a level 1. This shit is so fun.

does this decal event end in 30min?

>>166359170
yep, I only got judge's gavel

>>166359218
same.. its so bad

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>>166355792
The calculation is based on the timezone setting of the particular sheet. Those formulas are specific to PST and also don't function the same in Excel and google sheets.

If anyone else wants to use those formulas, make a new sheet in google sheets and set it to PST under file, spreadsheet settings. Or GMT and copy from my doc or delete the +(1/3) after every now() function.

Or take your UTC offset and multiply it by 3600 and multiply that by 1/(60*60*24) or something and add that to the now() function.

Sorry - - - - I've been up for 3 days.
Accidentally spent a half hour on blingee before posting this what is

>>166359170
>>166359218
>>166359278
i already have heavy tank before, but i didnt get shit, i must have gotten at least 20 stews or more did get stuff like serial killer, barbell 2 mosquito primos, so im happy about that at least

>>166359170
i got one heavy tank out of 50~ decals purchased.

im pretty sure the event was bugged. at least, i want to believe that. otherwise what was the point?

>>166358309
Speaking of, anyone read shit by Junji Ito? A lot of times while playing this game I've been thoroughly convinced they had to have gotten some inspiration from him. Especially with some of the visual design incl. snailshroom and Golden vampireshroom. Not to far fetched to think.

>>166360203
yeah i was hooked on those when an anon would post them on /v/ dorohedoro is really close because of death demons, mushrooms, and in general werid shit with zany characters

>>166359705
>>166359732
i'm at well over 50 stews purchased as well. just some shitty gavels. i don't believe it's bugged, it's just not increased enough to even be worth promoted as an 'event'.
maybe a 1 or 2% increase
i can't even imagine doing this without dev raids