/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Peeve is probably the best player

DaS2 is best for PvP.

DaS1 is best for PvE and story.

DaS3 is ?????????

Approximately how many different aspects of strength are there when determining the power of a Protagonist?

This is what I have so far:
Healing capabilities
Damage Migitation
Speed
Arsenal
Magical Talent
Unique Abilities

>get scholar ring to try out great magic weapon
>adds 10 less AR than resin even with upgraded catalyst
>only advantage is that it's accepted by lingering ring
>meanwhile flame arc adds as much as resin with a halfway upgraded flame, and gets 50% more duration by default for less investment overall while also burning certain mobs

Why do magic weapon and great magic weapon even exist?

Anyone got a spare sage +2 on Xbone?

Guys what weapon should I use to roll catch?

>>166319646
Best for gameplay and bossfights

>>166319749
Titanite Catch Pole

>>166319749
Curved greatsword running attacks and R1s, Thrusting straight swords with the R1 > R1 > R2 combo, 2h hammer, specifically mace, morning star, and blacksmith hammer, and occasionally, axes.

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>>166319646
! CURSED !

>>166319770
>das 3 has the best bossfights

literally the worst from the entire series.

>gameplay

poise

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Anyone have a Covetous Silver +2 ring they can drop a poor hollow?

>>166320105
>literally the worst from the entire series.

Did you play DS2?

>>166320157
Just use CE.

>>166320105
>twenty four hours from now this same anon will post "why do people need to go out of their way to make fun of ds2?!"

ds2's sole redeeming quality was the meme potential with things like the invisibility rings and powerstanced smelter swords

it was fun in the same way beating people with rubber chickens in runescape was fun

>>166319749
However, all that aside, Valorheart is objectively the best weapon in the entire game to catch people with.

Virtually every attack in its moveset has a sort of "lingering hitbox" effect to it, in my experience both using it and fighting against it.

2HR1 > 2HJA is the only jumping attack that can truecombo in the entire game. Good to catch setup parryers off-guard.
2HR1 > 2HR1 > R2 is not unlike a normal straightsword thrust rollcatch, it's just less reliable since Valorheart is noticeably shorter than other straight swords and is susceptible to parrying by experienced players.

In general, the L2R1 and 2HJA are extraordinarily good at catching people, especially if they roll away from you, rather than rolling left, right, or into/under you.

>>166320389

I would but I got an Invalid Message a while ago. Want it to clear up before I do naughty shit again.

>>166319646
PvE in 1 is actually pretty shitty, and I think it takes some pretty rose-tinted glasses to think otherwise. It's incredibly braindead even without poise, and backstabs being so easy to get make most mob fights a complete joke.
I know everyone cums over DS1 poise, but I think that being able to completely ignore attack timings and positioning and delete any amount of thought that might have gone into a fight is stupid.
>>166320105
I'd like to hear you describe how bosses in 3 are worse overall mechanically and presentation-wise than the rest of the series.

>>166320442
Imagine if the last of the londor sister trio was that big she had a butt smush grab attack

>>166319668
A-anyone have any other categories to add??

>still playing this casualized trash
lmaoing@urlyfe

>>166319725

So you don't have to wait till late game to get a magic buff if CMW were the only one

Are there any builds that particularly suck in the dlc for 3? I remember in 1 and 2 magic wasn't as good as melee. In 2 especially, magic was just trash in the dlc

I'm the flood guy, gonna suck it up and make a new character to go through the dlc, so I may as well tailor them towards it. The only build I never tried was faith, but I don't really feel like trying it either.

>>166320705
DS1 poise really was a mistake, it just opens up so many doors for the absolute worst sort of min-maxing. It would be balanced if it was actually tied to your equip load being heavy as fuck.

>>166320105
DaS has 3 good boss fights
DaS2 has 1 good boss fight in the main game and 3 good ones in the DLC
BB has ~5 good bosses, 3 of them in the DLC
DaS3 has like 10 good bosses, 1 of them in the DLC

Hell, you could make a really good case for the game having only one actual undeniably "bad" fight.

>>166320157
What you're farming?

>>166320950

Need a little over 2 million souls to reach SL 130. Farming the three Golden Winged dudes. Almost a quarter of the way so I'll probably be good without it.

>>166320816
you can still use resin though, and flame arc is only three points of investment away tops (plus even casters can make use of 10 faith for regen). I really don't think it'd be unfair for them to add like 10-15 more AR each or something.

>>166319668
Death penalty.
How much is that particular character is penalized by dying.

>>166321154
didn't even think of that.

Good one Anon-kun. Will add it to the list.

>>166320856
Nope, most enemies in the dlc have reasonable defenses and no bullshit. You can go in with whatever build you have.

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>>166319668
Bugs

I have 28 STR and 40 DEX
I started as a pure dex character.

Should I consider switching out from sharp infusion soon?

>>166320707
hnnnnng

>>166321154
If we include that the characters are resurrecting, what would be the losing condition? Giving up?

>>166320903
What the fuck is your definition of good? All of those games have more good bosses and 3 for sure has more than 1 bad boss

>>166321305
Check with Andre which weapons have more AR Sharp, Refined, and Uninfused. Most weapons will be best Refined, some weapons like the Exile CGS will be better sharp, and some weapons like the Black Blade will be better uninfused.

>>166321305
if you level str more, yeah, you should

Sellsword twinblades at 40/40 have identical AR with either infusion, exile CGS has superior AR with sharp, but only while onehanded, and quills will actually have more AR with sharp overall. Aside from the CGS, you just shouldn't use strength on those particular weapons (26 is a good place to stop for CGS).

>>166321305
Yeah, you should go with refined at this point.

>>166321418
A good fight is a fight with great atmosphere, a decent level of difficulty, interesting mechanics and a test of skill without being gimmicky garbage or PRESS R1

DaS1 has precisely 3 bosses which fit the bill.
Artorias, O&S and Manus. DaS2 has Darklurker, then Fume/Allone/Dragondude.

>>166321482
Looking at the list now, all the weapons I am using now are better off sharp, mainly because they are mainly dex weapons from the getgo.

I think I might broaden my horizons a bit and start using some other weapons too, what are fun weapons for 28 STR 40 DEX spread?

>>166321418
>angry people use good without supplying a definition
>proceedes to use the word good without definition

>>166321669
And what are the 10 good 3 fights and the 1 only bad one

>>166321283
>TWoD
>literally infinite heals with estus and one fk soul
Heh, nothing personnel ashen

>>166319668
Expectations maybe? Arguably more of a irl player characteristic than one of the ingame-character's.

>>166321679
2H 80% of the weapons in the game because of how the 2H strength modifier works. 1H SS and DEX weapons.

>>166321669
>a decent level of difficulty, interesting mechanics and a test of skill without being gimmicky garbage or PRESS R1
>DaS3
>10 bosses
>Decent level of difficulty
>without being gimmicky garbage
>10 BOSSES
>DaS3
>>without being gimmicky garbage

>>166319668
>tfw completely forgot to add damage capability

whoops. it's on the list, just didn't copy it over

>>166321792
>running firestorm killing all 4 other protagonists before they can even react

Heh

>>166321679
Exile CGS is probably the only weapon where you'd want to have semi-leveled str, everything else is usually better off at 40/40 or with no str at all.

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/ourguy/

>>166321947
>TWoD
>getting close enough to hit
>being able to keep the storm up
Pick 2

What are some better uses of dart buffering in PvP? Except for healing and tumblebuffing. And pls no sacred flame.

wtf is Farron Dart for?

>>166322823
fast poke. like a higher damage throwing knife

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>get invaded
>hes using a longsword

>>166321781
The one that is complete garbage in all aspects is Wyvern. Even then it's not as bad as some of the other fights in the series, but it is still pretty shit.

The good DaS3 fights are Iudex, Dragonslayer Armour, Watchers, Dancer, Champ, Pontiff, Soul of Cinder, Nameless King, Twin Princes and Friede.

Deacons, Curse-Rotted Greatwood, Gravetender, Skeletonman and Yhorm are just average. Gravetender is a little uninspired and you fight the wolf before but the Wolf's rapid movements make it a decent encounter, Greatwood's assbubbles are gross and the gimmick holds it back, but there's nothing abhorrent about the fight. Skeletonman and Yhorm again have bad gimmicks but some real 10/10 atmosphere/music/introductions and Deacons looks quite cool and the introduction of The Pope is great, but it's really easy and again, tied to a lame gimmick.

>>166321926
>DaS3 shitty gimmick fights
Deacons (Red Aura) Yhorm (Ruler) Wyvern (Plunge) Skeleton (Bracelets) Greatwood (Eggs)

>DaS1 shitty gimmick fights
Bed Of Chaos, Gwyndolin, Ceaseless Discharge, Moonlight Butterfly, 4Kings
This doesn't even go into the other bosses that are just as bad as those but aren't gimmicks persay (Asylum Demon 2/3, Seathe, Centipede Demon, Pinwheel)

>>166322823
For casting every spell in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4gPwCdilmQ&t=0s

>>166323040
The most fair weapon in the game

>>166323113
I've heard people count Iron Golem as a dumb gimmick fight too, between him wobbling around after 8 hits and falling off the tower and the one giant that throws bombs at you during the fight if you don't kill him.
There's also Gaping Vagina, which is actually a pretty terrible fight from every aspect except its visual design.

How do I deal with the fucking casters in Brume Tower, because fucking Christ that one corridor with two of them three warriors is a fucking joke especially with the bullshit room with the respawning giant and warriors before it.

>>166323665
Hm, i don't remember corridor with 2 casters and 3 warriors. Where is it? What the warriors are wielding?

>>166323601
>>166323113
Honestly Kalameet is pretty shit too. Like Seathe, he's this simple easy boss with a boring moveset but you have to take multiple tries if you want the tail weapon. He does have a great introduction with Hawkeye and everything though.

>>166323113
The stormruler is entirely optional for Yhorm.

I liked the fight, because I didn't know about the stormruler when I killed him.

Actually, now that I think of it, I have no clue what the stormruler does to him.

>>166323665
>the bullshit room with the respawning giant and warriors before it
You pretty much have to sprint through it. None of the guys will follow you out of the room, though.

For the cliffside, you can slowly lure most of the warriors over to where you're in cover. It's tedious more than anything.

>>166323837
Sorry, not corridor, it's like a cliffside, just past the second bonfire. First there's the room with the three drop entrances with the giant and two warriors, one dual axe, one bowman. A huge lever door leads to a walkway around the outside, you face one of those heavy bow/fire guys, after you turn a corner, two casters and three warriors, two axe guys, one sword guy, I believe. Kicking my ass, are those casters particularly weak to anything?

>>166323957
>None of the guys will follow you out of the room, though.

Fuck me, seriously? That's not so bad, drained my spells going through it, makes it a nightmare.

>>166323921
>Actually, now that I think of it, I have no clue what the stormruler does to him.

It drops him to his knees and does about 6000 damage.

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>you can deny hosts entrance through fog gates in DaS2

>>166323856
>simple, easy boss with a boring moveset
This actually describes the vast majority of the bosses in 1.
I think the game's age and the solid presentation for a lot of the fights means many people overlook that fact.

>>166324189
>are those casters particularly weak to anything?
Physical damage. Especially thrusting.
Just go back behind the rocks as soon as warriors aggro on you. They will follow you, casters won't.

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>>166324393
>you can chase hosts through fog gates in DaS3

>tfw DaS3 doesn't have any good, fun fist weapons
>tfw bare fists does shit for damage no matter what

>>166324189
>seriously?
Yes, the second you make it out of those iron doors the enemies in that room quit following you.
I'm honestly not sure why there's so many guys in the room to begin with if they make it so easy to ignore them but really ridiculous to fight them.

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PC FC, high wall, pass dsg as always, signs on the rafters

>>166324667
I'll take anyone over drakeunless you are him

>>166324667
fuck do you have more of that?

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>>166324762
I'm not. Please actually come

>>166324890
Look up Setz.

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Shoot it from down, it stays up...
Cut it from up, it falls down...

can I silvercat from this height?

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>>166325135

Who's hosting?

>>166325228
You can sneak behind it and strike it to keep it up there too

how come sometimes when i hit opponents that are doing a jump attack they just finish the attack and also out damage my attack even if i hear the counter hit sound? is it just lag?

>>166325228
You can catch it before it falls down, just sayin.

>>166325228

Yes.

>>166325291
>>166325356

Silvercat ring worked fine.

...It was a ring I already had, what a bother.

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repost for twinkiest twink build in ds2

>>166322823
for trashing and replacing with great farron dart, which is the second best sorcery in the game

>>166325241
witch crystal

>>166325241
Me, I don't see your sign here though

>>166325587
>ds2 twink
>no agape
what

>tfw infusions are going to get reworked with the new DLC patch

>All infusions may now be buffed.
>Raw and Raw-elemental infusions will now be granted scalings based on lowest level stat.
>Heavy infusion will increase scaling more, but increases weapon weight and stamina costs.
>Sharp infusion will increase scaling more, but lowers weapon durability and stability.
>Refined infusion will now deal overall less damage, but has lower stamina costs, lower weight, and marginally higher critical damage.
>Hollow infusion now lowers HP, FP, Stamina, and Absorptions slightly, scalings increased. Luck bonus increased, but no longer stacks.
>Non-Raw elemental infusions now have greater physical scaling, but lower base physical damage.
>Deep and Fire infusions and Dark and Chaos infusions have had their names swapped to better reflect their translations. (i.e. deep and fire now grant Int & Fai scalings, dark and chaos are now elemental-raw).
>Blessed infusion has been granted increased scalings, and now deals lightning damage in addition to its Health Point regeneration, which no longer stacks. Other effects unchanged.
>Simple infusion has been granted increased scalings in addition to its Focus Point regeneration, which no longer stacks.
>Crystal infusion no longer adds intelligence scaling and instead deals raw magic and physical damage.
>Lightning infusion no longer adds faith scaling and instead deals raw lightning and physical damage.
>Bleed infusion has increased auxiliary base damage and luck scaling, but can only improve existing bleed auxiliary.
>Poison infusion has increased auxiliary base damage and luck scaling, but can only improve existing poison auxiliary.

>>166325754
hard swap your life ring for agape ring after you take some damage.

>>166325853
This actually sounds good so you know it's total bullshit and nothing will happen to address how bad infusions work.

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Most dangerous attacks?

>smough charge
>kalameet pounce
>manus dark bead

>>166326298
Any wombo combo

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What are some good headpieces that match the Sunset armor? All I can think of is the assassin helm.

>>166326408
favor helm

>>166326408
There probably aren't any with how bad neck seams are

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>>166326298
>smooch charge

Dude its nearly fucking February where's the goddamn dlc 2 trailer? My hype is fading

>>166326298
Ancient Dragon's landing. If you are underneath him when he lands, it's pretty much an instant kill even at high levels, and the hitbox is wonky.

>>166326640
j a n

2 6

Where I can find info on population by SL for DS3?

>Play the game for the firs time solo, only do co-op after killing a boss and even then as a phantom.
>Play new game+ no summon signs anywhere so I can get phantoms for bossfights.

That is a little sad.

>>166326408
eastern

>>166326731
Don't lie to me anon, don't break my heart

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What the fuck is wrong with that face?

>>166324612
>mfw the giant lad followed me out and nuked me while I was unclogging my toilet

I had my regen ring on because I might as well get some free health and no one was in sight, cheeky cunt decided to have a gentle wander and killed me, no honour

>>166326928
it's OK anon, they're going to let streamers run through the DLC before anyone else so the whole thing will be spoiled by the end of this week!

>>166325587
>No southern ritual band with flame weapon swapping for flynn's after you've buffed.
>No elemental infusion.
It's like you don't even want to do damage.

>>166327075
No bully

>>166327461
is it really that bad in person or that's just a shitty preview?

How would you guys feel about a fairly fast paced 2D Souls fighting game?

holy fuck is there a pcfcbf going on??

I T ' S T I M E

>>166327668
There's one already, it's called slashy souls

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>"Is that a boss or something?"
>"I mean, it seems too big for this place. Plus it's pretty static right now"
>shit is moving
Oh boy

>>166327668

Slashy Souls.

>>166327075
The mouth. It looks like some big phallic object have just been shoved in this mouth, hard, and she's still recovering from it.
Also that chin accentuates that.

>>166324667
>>166325135

>there will never be a real Paper Souls
>Nintendo won't even make a good Paper Mario anymore

;_;

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Having an unintentional Lucky Ted run
>hollowed in asylum drops shortbow
>asylum demon drops his wep
>spear soldier before merchant drops spear
>taurus demon drops his wep
>kill drake before I run out of arrows
>take down both black knights on the first go
>bk shield drops from second
>boar drops pic related
>kill bell gargoyles first try (not that impressive, very trivialized due to bk shield, but had some lucky rolls away from the overhead strikes that probably would have killed me otherwise---common thread for this run so far)
>go back to asylum, kill oscar on first try (he gave me as much trouble as a bk my first run so this was satisfying)
>one-shot all of early darkroot garden (before crest door) and butterfly
>one-shot all of lower burg + capra; massively overleveled going into depths
>finally FINALLY die to gaping dragon twice in a row
Taking a break here because I gotta buy more gold pine resin and depths are a pain to run around in. Next time I go for gaping dragon, I'm not going to summon either dude because the scaling ruins that fight (and they both die super quick anyway).

>>166327687
I look forwards to seeing you, muscle cutie.

>>166328234
>h'did yee know!?

so linking the fire is the bad ending of DaS3, right?

>>166328367
t. kaathe

D L C 2 W H E N

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>tfw no summon

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A lot of signs going on right now, if you haven't been summoned in a while, post your name here please.

>>166328367
It's bad for your dick.

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Is this a neat gladiator build?
since i cant fit a caestus in with these stats is there a better ring option than hornet, and is steel protection +2 worth it?

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>>166327075
I never thought it looked that bad desu

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Anyone down for some DeS, DaS, or DaS2 on the PS3 or PC?
PSN: FutureFoolLarasa
PC: http://steamcommunity.com/id/futurefool/

>>166328561
you're banned sorry
>>166328642
is that a duck face?

>>166328561
i like how literally as soon as i posted this i got summoned

>>166328561
>>166328572
like pottery

>>166328367
It's not really bad, but it's super pointless because the flame is so pathetically weak.

>>166328642
Christ almighty, thats disgusting.

>>166328367
It doesn't do anything. You're shit kindling. Linking the fire is just the Dark ending without you being alive.

why are pyro teachers so based relative to all the other teachers/vendors in every Souls game? what did Miyazaki mean by this?

>>166328706
banned?? FOR WHAT WHAT THE FUCK

>>166328367
Just take the fucking flame and shove it up your ass, that's what I did, there's your age of dark

>>166328853
It's a meme. Only Drake and Claire ban, and Claire has been gone for quite a while.

>>166328835

I think Cornix is lame. Can't even teach you most shit.

>>166328706
I know mid-rolling with full havel's and a FUGS is super suspicious, but his build is 125.

>>166328960
>Just take the fucking flame and shove it up your ass, that's what I did, there's your age of dark
sounds like one of those shitty smug pepe comics

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Oops I uploaded the wrong picture just as the last thread ended

How's this?

>>166328853
This your first time?
It's just a crowded FC

>>166328835
Anyone willing to actually share his flame with you would need to be a pretty cool guy.

>>166328853
The high council decided that you are tryharding too much and will not get summoned anymore.

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>>166326298
Summoned oId mad man's raposte

>>166329193
His stance strikes alone on NG+ can easily 1hko people

>>166329069
>2handing yhorm's eats ass
??

>>166329431
It's just so I could put the 666 AR it has on the image

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C UTE

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>>166329069
>50 str
>66 str 2h gives 707 ar
That's 2hko in arena

>>166329726
Why does he go hollow?

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We've got 5 signs when anyone from the full FC dies.
If anyone wants to be second host, that'd be welcome.

>>166330038
I already volunteered to,.

>>166329937
because no one understands him

>>166330038
>drake hosts
>no one comes
>someone else is hosting
>enough people to have 2 FCs
At least for once /dsg/ has not been shit.

Wait, did Hodrick die because rubble from the great tree breaking the floor fell on him?

>>166329937
Anri told him she considered him a friend and how hot the Ashen One is

>>166330038
why did Friede chain Ariandel's chair to the floor?

>>166330102
Feel free to start picking up some signs then.

>>166329030
Invade my world m8 lets see how well you survive my age of shitey arse

>>166330230
Yup. A fitting end for a madman.

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I'll ask again in not-dying thread:

I reinstalled base DS2.

I completed the game before scholar of first sin came out (and pirated the DLC using cheat engine).

Is it worth to upgrade to SoFS?
its like 30bux I could save.
can you still pirate the DLC using CE?

>>166330427
That is the funniest thing in the game.

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>>166329937
too cute for this world

Cursed greatwood is a fun fight with a slow weapon.

>>166330447
Did you really enjoy DS2? If so, then SotFS might be worthwhile for you because in many regards it's an objective improvement over the base game. However it won't change your mind if you didn't like it before.

Best case scenario would probably be to wait for a sale, or just pirate SotFS if that's even possible.

>People in this thread are so egotistical all they ever do is lord of hollows, and never help Anri and Horace avenge the devourer of their friends

Keep drinking Yuria's snake oil

>>166330820
I helped them once for the cheevo, and that's it. 100% Yuria ever since.

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Have fun fags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V84qWsj1KMY

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>Wears Fallen Knight Armour.

>>166330820
It's the temptation of the jerky waifu

>>166330820
I did lord of hollow ending once, felt disgusted during the final cutscene and then felt immense relief later on that the end the fire ending to be the best ending in the whole series.

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Have they patched boss invasions yet?

>>166331015
>felt disgusted during the final cutscene
but why

>>166330972
Why did that raggedy ass armor become a negative thing?

>>166330972

It looks good.

>>166331015

What's there to be disgusted about? You threw off the shackles of the gods

>>166330447
SOTFS comes with the DLC integrated into the game, you don't need to pirate it.

SOTFS is worth it if you want to do PvP, you really like / care about knowing all the lore, or if you want 60fps. Those are three things it does that make it absolutely better than base DS2.

There's a bunch of other changes to the game that are minor, but those are the big improvements. Servers are literally 10x more active than base DS2.

>>166330948
>Tfw there was supposed to be some sort of flaming ground pyromancy with a massive AOE, but it was cut due to lag.

>>166331089
Nope

>>166330820
Vengeance is a selfish motivation itself. It's not egotistical to not help someone do something selfish.

I can kill Aldritch and do the fire thing, Anri doesn't need to do it.

>>166330820
>he doesn't play as a virtuous unkindled who seeks to erradicated every hollow
>not accepting Yoel's 5 sigils only to bait Yuria into appearing then promptly heal them and kill her
>not killing those two frail hollows, unfit to kill a lord of cinder

>>166331089
I'd love to know who animated Asylum Demon.

>>166331089
I doubt bandai knows that they exist.

>>166331172
>>166331154
I just have zero hopes that anything good could come out of usurping the fire. Plus a land of hollows sounds like a place that should just be purged with fire and brimstone.

Accepting the natural order of things and allowing the flame to finally die just feels right.

>>166331316

Time is convoluted, you only killed one Aldrich

>>166328642
permanent duck face.

>>166331089
If they're planning on patching it then you've probably got until sometime in March to keep doing it.

Second FC host here. Signs are drying up on my end. FC will soon be a one host FC.

>>166330948
Wait, why is this fuckhead teaching people how to make invaders get penalized because their client crashes?

>>166331441
And Anri couldn't even kill one without me.

I can't be expected to make sure every single possible Aldritch in every timeline is killed.

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Post fashion

>>166331434
being hollow is honestly not so bad once you get used to it desu

Fuck, internet died halfway through fighting paddrick, can't be bothered to re-open the game. Night shitposters.

Spamming gnaw and clubbing people with phantom range was pretty fun.

>>166331709
>Shitter's Sythe

>>166331198
> or if you want 60fps
But I have base DS2 and it runs at 1080p 60fps already.

>Servers are literally 10x more active than base DS2.
goddamnit, they had to fragment the playerbase with this shit.

Someone please explain to me exactly what usurping the fire means, because I still don't get it. There's linking the fire, letting it fade, and usurping it. The fuck does it do or mean?

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>>166331709

>>166331719
Just go about it like Big Hat Logan

>goes hollow
>OH FUCK YES NOW I HAVE INFINITE TIME TO STUDY MAGIC

his only mistake was reading Seath's collection of cursed insanium books, if he didn't do that he'd still be around

>>166331894
You absorb the remaining flame into your body. What happens after that is up in the air and we'll probably never ever get a clear answer.

>>166330948
>using cheat engine to ban invaders

what's the point

just cheat yourself invincible

>>166331894
Instead of letting it burn (link) or handing it off to someone equipped to deal with it or plummeting the world into even deeper chaos (fade), we take it as a symbol of power for ourselves, and for the power within it. We're clearly the strongest around, so no one will take it. You're the unquestionable ruler over a rotting kingdom.

people like that nigger teaching others how to softban are why i'm tempted to convert to console every day

fuck. i can't fucking stand 30 fps. stupid fucking consolefags and their fucking "cinematic" framerate.

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>>166331746
>mfw I knew I was losing that fight
Rose is frustrating to fight without poise

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>>166331709

>>166331434
But then it would be a land of hollows one way or another, but if you usurp the fire you would probably live.

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>>166331709

>>166331861
>goddamnit, they had to fragment the playerbase with this shit

DS2 is actually pretty well connected by From standards. It's the first From game without region locking. Still no cross-platform support though

>>166331709
>DaS3
>fashion
ha ha ha

>>166331989
undead =! hollow

>>166319668
Power rankings of videogame protagonists between games using different systems are stupid and gay.

>>166332336
But why live in a rotting world that might never have a chance to have a true fire again?

DaS2 reminds me more of King's Field instead of Souls.
>tfw that's why it's best

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What would you prefer for the next DLC?

>Londor aka New New Londo aka another gray shithole
>Carthus of the Sands

>>166332119
you're not killing them,
you're crashing the program, with no survivors

>>166332496
but they all use a very similar system, and it's through lore and accomplishments as well as potential rather than a strict duel between the ptags through game mechanics

>>166332572
I'd prefer the next DLC takes place in Kriemheld's butt

>>166332572
THICC

>>166331161
Because it became the shitter's mark similar to how Garg helm, Drake sword, Heide noob mask, Vengarl's helm and Drangleic set became that in the earlier games.

>>166332779
>Because it became the shitter's mark
Literally.

>>166332572
what's the lore behind Kriemheld? why does she wear firekeeper robes and invade you in undtended graves?

>>166332537
You can gather all interesting books, pictures and other art and do nothing but read, watch and masturbate until fire finally fades completely.

>>166332892
She's jealous.

>>166332892

she has a thicc ass

and the has the biggest balls in the group, last time I went trough the archives she parried my fucking BKGS while the other two faggots backpedalled to heal

Whats the highest level you can reach to still have matchmaking with SL120?

>>166333240
142

>>166330690
when was the last sale?

Guess I'll grind DS1 until it happens. fug

>>166332613
It's gonna just boil down to people defending their favorite game's protagonist because there is no way of settling a game protagonist since the players can customize them totally.

You could very reasonably compare power rankings of fighting game characters within the same series since the characters will essentially be unchanging.

With Soulsborne the sheer amount of different builds makes comparing the protags in any meaningful way impossible.

>>166332892
Probably some sort of high-tier sorceress still in service to protecting Prince Lothric alongside the Lion knight and that one blackhand.

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>>166332572
Not this slut

The Shrine Handmaiden was around in the age of dark.

So does that mean that the Sunless Realms is the Kingdom from the age of dark?

>>166333493
Sunless Realms is Anor Londo

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>>166332572
Would be cool to see Londor because the story is clearly leading us there. Tbh there should be 3 dlcs so we could have hot, cold and dark dlcs.

Also I want to Kriem inside her.

What's the edgiest weapon that's still effective in combat? I'm just finishing up DSII and going to move on to III, and having played a good guy faith knight with a Blessed Claymore and Lightning Heide Knight Sword in the last two games respectively, I want to try and be villainous. You know, grab a katana or a scythe or something and wear all black and maybe even invade people.

I heard the Dark Sword is good and I liked the look of it, but then I heard it was the weapon of PvP scrubs and was nerfed. Any alternatives?

>>166328367
Linking the fire until it's no longer possible will just hurt the world to a point it'll become similar to the age of ancients.

Notice how people are turning into archtrees, how the world is becoming "unformed and shrouded by fog" in the kiln of the first flame. As for the everlasting dragons, maybe the Primordial Serpents would evolve into dragons, for serpents are nothing but an imperfect dragon, that would explain why frampt want so bad to keep the age of fire to its maximum extent, because he wants to become an immortal dragon.

>>166332572
Watch, it's Blighttown and the final boss is the furtive pygmy.

They will probably tie up loose ends with the pygmy and it will be every bit as disappointing as Nameless Kang

>>166333724
>go to Londor
>everyone there is actually pretty friendly and supportive of your efforts to fix whatever shit is wrong with it (abyss outbreak/dragon?)
how would /dsg/ react

>>166333737
Any katana, any scythe

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1vuBlKKbgKE

>paddrick and depression at the FC
Like a walk down memory lane

>>166333884
but reverting to a new Age of Ancients is what will happen regardless, as that is the fate of the world when the flames actually die off for good

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>>166333724

I just want a place with colors I'm tired of seeing gray fucking everywhere in this piece of washed out shit game

>>166334031
yeah that would be pretty funny hyuck hyuck hyuck

>>166333737
Friede's Scythe is pretty good but as the downside you have to beat essentially the hardest boss in the souls series to get it.

Dual katanas are probably the edgiest and most effective.

>>166333913
If it turns out the hollows of London are actually pretty cool guys and no more insane than the average undead/human I might reconsider my choice of best ending.

>>166334120
>you have to beat essentially the hardest boss in the souls series to get it.

You really think Friede is the hardest boss in the series?

>>166334171
Well anon, they might be cool guys NOW, but all hollows lose their minds eventually. Them trying to stay upbeat and faithful to their Hollow Church might stave off the loss of sanity for now, but nothing can stop it for literally forever

>>166333737
play 3Kat
use onigiri and ubadachi in the main hand and chaos blade in the offhand so all 3 sheaths are o the same side
weaken you opponent with 2kat and always finish them off with chaos blade stance attacks

>>166334276
Souls series, doesn't include Bloodborne.

It would be more interesting if the DLC takes place in a place with no undeads, just regular humans. And that all the souls games just take place in a relatively small bubble.

>>166333737
Dark Sword is really good, but it's a weapon for R1 spamming, so it's pretty looked down upon, and other straight swords come with usable R2s and weapon arts so they're good alternatives to it.

You could go full Dex and use the Crow Quills and Chaos Blade, both of which are pretty edgy and good weapons... Chaos Blade is pretty lategame unless you kill Dancer, Oceiros and Champ early, but Crow Quills can be obtained early by going into the DLC as soon as you get to Cathedral of the Deep, which can be fun. Just run away or hide from the tough enemies.

If you manage to progress through Corvian Village and kill Sir Vilhelm early, you could also be a pyromancer with his Onyx Greatsword, which is a pretty good build as well.

friede is probably one of the lowest skill ceiling bosses in the entire souls series

beat her at SL1 and you'll flawless the fight every time

>>166334457
I'm aware, which is why I said "souls games"

I don't count Demon's souls either. Friede is really easy if you just backstab her, like the hungry slut she is.

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How would you fix the Yhorm boss fight?

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>>166334120

>Friede
>Hard

>>166335140
remove stormruler

halve HP, put defenses to normal

all attacks are explosive and much be blocked or tanked

>>166334854
How do you actually start SL1 run? Deprived?

>>166335140
Make the storm ruler part go by a bit quicker, add a second phase where you have to fight him without it where his defenses are much lower but his moveset has changed and he's much faster and enraged.

>>166335140
Just remove the Stormruler lying around.

If you want to use it, you have to get Siegward in the fight, and if he dies, you can then pick it up and then use it. But it wont stay in your inventory unless you kill Yhorm.

>>166335230
And Siegward leaves the Stormruler along with his armor so we can still get it

>>166335183
>easy mode greatsword shitter

>>166334982
Well, Friede is a huge endurance fight and you need to have full Estus basically . The third phase just gets ridiculous.
>backstab
If you use summons you have no ground to talk.

>>166335140
Remove the Storm Ruler gimmick, make his arms and head take a bit more damage so the fight doesn't take as long, increase his damage to make him very dangerous. This would make him a much better version of what fighting Hollow Vendrick should have been like.

It's already a decent fight if you don't use Storm Ruler, doesn't need that much "fixing".

>>166335414

curved greatsword =/= greatsword

do your homework

>>166335440
>If you use summons you have no ground to talk.

She's stupidly easy to backstab even without summons, you fucktard.

would pvp in ds3 get better or worse if buffing weapons was removed?

>>166335525
>something that has greatsword in the name isn't a greatsword
What did he mean by this?

>>166335183
Confess you lucked out, I tried fighting this boss with CGS and it was 10 times harder.

I hate that the Exile GS exists. It looks dumb and ugly but it's the only CGS worth.

>>166335446
but Yhorm already drops super quick if you hit the arms as it stands

>>166335183
She really did become way less intimidating when I realized there's massive openings in the third phase where I can use shit like miracle heals if I really want to.

>>166335712

Just spam R1, she can't do shit against your HA and she always gets close after evading so you can keep fucking her like the slut she is

>>166334854

This actually speaks very well for the boss fight, because while difficult, it doesn't have much bullshit, so once you get good at the fight and identify every attack, you can beat her with ease very consistently. Of course pseudo-hardcore idiots see this as a problem, because they want to die over and over again like the DaS2 hags told them to.

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Hurr hurr just made some pathetic twink called MLG LVL 20 burn all his estus and then put his caestus away when being a fag was getting his ass handed to him and then he resorted to R1spamming with a lightning buffed axe that practically hit me for a 1/3rd of health.

>He pointed down.

>>166335440
Look at this webm >>166335183 the guy there had a backstab window larger than your mother's asshole.

As for endurance, if you have to use estus flasks during first of second phase, you're doing something wrong, you can just wait till she jumps off during first phase and backstab her and then ignore her during second phase, and you shouldn't need to use any estus flasks.

>>166333957
>>166334120
>>166334448
>>166334542
Thanks! I'll try my hardest to become the edge.

>>166335862
Didn't the last poise rework fucked GCGs real good and only the Exile stood because of its raw damage? I'm pretty sure now they are just a shitty version of greatswords.

>>166335952
Stream yourself doing this fight right now, and I want to see you get to phase 3 without taking a single hit.

And I want to see you do it right now.

Ps4,xbone and steam all have integrated streaming platforms.

Let me see you do it if its thats easy

>>166336154
You stream yourself failing repeatedly, and we'll all get a laugh.

>>166336154
He's gonna pussy out people here are just talk

Friede is the stat heaviest boss in this game, feels impossible at SL1 just because the amount of rolling necessary.

>>166336256
Thats what I thought bitch.

is doing a sorcerer build comfy?

>>166336310
>Friede is the stat heaviest boss in this game, feels impossible at SL1 just because the amount of rolling necessary.

The fuck are you talking about?

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>cuckflame Friede

>>166336128

They are shit, that's just how easy Friede is

ive done everything in my first playthrough in ds3, whats the soul level range for the dlc?

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>tfw you try to be a cool guy and eat shit hard for it

>>166336437
Why is she "stuck" at the begining of the webm ?

>>166336437
>you can hit her during that animation

nice to know

>>166336465
Depends on how good you are really, as is the case with all the areas in the game that aren't locked when you start... I don't know, I felt that 50-60 range was alright when I did the dlc as a pure-dex, but again it depends.

>>166336332
no

>>166336549
She's not stuck, she's charging an attack.

She has a heavy hitting attacks like that during first and third phase, both of which leave her stupidly vulnerable to backstabs.

She just turns invisible during the first phase when she does that.

>>166336549

That's the long ass startup animation for her "nothing personnel kid" attack where she puts your head between her scythes

>>166336332
of course it is. blend with the environment and then your Kamehameha on those bitches.

>>166336683
This is my first time in a souls game and i did literally everything for my first souls playthrough, im level 123 with a quality luck build and im pretty sure im overleveled lol.

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>at pontiff bonfire
>get summoned
>guy waves at me, wave back
>for some reason we don't fight
>we just end up going to the bottom of the ladder behind the hidden wall
>we just lay at the bottom in the water for a bit
>eventually the guy throws down an "I'm sorry" carving and climbs up the ladder
>HOST OF EMBERS DEFEATED
>he fucking killed himself
I don't know what happened.

>>166336834
>>166336843
It always seems faster when I fight her

was being a member of the Abyss Watchers comfy?

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>>166336154

Here's the first fase (same fight from the other webms)

>>166336989
No, even before they all went hollow and got corrupted by the abyss it was basically just a really edgy breakdancing club.

>>166336967
It feels faster if you have to run up to her when she does it.
>>166336941
Well, no time like present then, if you've already done everything. You could always start new game+ and rush your way there, that way you're not overleveled for it, if you want to be challenge for your first time.

>>166337082
I don't care about cherry picked webm's, I want to see you consistently get to phase 3 and take no damage.

Which of course, you will not be able to do.

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>>166336989
It must've been pretty comfy until they started murdering each other

>>166337107
Now it's the most metal moshpit in history.

>>166337141
I think ill do it this playthrough just for the slabs

>>166337223
>all their warriors need to level up to properly take advantage of their weaponry

>be Firekeeper
>suddenly a horde of at least 100 guys shows up
>"yo bitch we all need levels, I'll go first"
what do?

>>166337315
have fun, remember wolves hunt in packs, ashen

>tfw have to spend an hour killing hollows if i want to try out a new weapon

thanks miyazaki

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>>166337182

Okay let me upload a video of the full fight, It will take a fucking long time though thanks to my shitty 3rd world country internet

Is it just me or is the Dancer the coolest boss in ds3. When i first played it with the sound of her steps and the sound of the grab she does, it was just so cool to me and no other boss fight has stood out like that.

>>166337406
Which is why she turns away from the Legion Etiquette gesture, she remembers needing to look after dozens of crazed warriors. She's thinking, "Oh no, not these lunatics again."
Let's be honest, how many Watchers would have hit on her at some point in time? I'm willing to say the bulk of them.

>>166337450
>watch my cherry picked video after it took me a ton of tries

No I don't care.

i want to see you do it live several times

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>>166337406
Level them up, of course

>>166337557
Why don't you watch some speedrunners wreck her in record time then?

>>166337556
she probably enjoyed it when the female Watchers hit on her

>>166337609
>comparing an average persons run to someone who gets paid to play the game

You are an absolute brain dead daft cunt.

>>166337557
You really can't come to terms that you're just fucking terrible?

Nothing you say makes any sense in relation to the fight, unless you really are as terrible at the game as you claim.

>>166337719
Not an argument

>>166337778
It's weird how not one person is streaming themselves doing this incredibly easy task apparently.

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>>166337232
super qt anon!!

>>166337580
see people say that the Abyss Watchers were anti-comfy before their downfall but that looks pretty comfy

>>166337857
git gud

>>166333902
>every bit as disappointing as Nameless King
You know, if NK was disappointing I'd imagine you were disappointed with every reveal for every character in this series, since his presentation is the exactly the same as every other prominent boss figure.
Allant, Gwyn, Artorias, Manus, Alonne, Raime, and so on all just show up without dialogue or any visual backstory. You just fight them. Surely that would have been expected of NK as well?

>>166337964
You showed me anon, you sure are the lord of dodging :^)

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I switched from a pure strength build to a quality luck build did i make the right choice

>>166338030
no. dex is bad.

Why do I keep getting covered in oil

>>166337708
Probably, but we'll never know. They all died a little.
This actually makes me wonder, how did she react to the other Lords of Cinder? Yhorm probably had Siegward over as much as possible, and Siegward always doing the cooking for that night, with his Estus Soup recipe. As for Aldrich, probably worse than the Watchers. If the Aldrich Faithful had a specific gesture, she'd probably turn away, remembering when she had to look after a huge, festering, sentient blob. "He's a Lord of Cinder, he's a Lord of Cinder, he's a Lord of Cinder, just keep him happy."

>>166333902
Manus was the Furtive Pygmy, we already fought him

>>166338069
y

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HOLLOW dlc will be so fucking easy at SL1

thanks memeahacki

>>166338102
it would be a different firekeeper, though, you have to get a fresh one after each time the firekeeper is linked

>>166337580
How quick can you get the Abyss Watcher stuff? When I get 3 I want to be a part of the Artorias fanclub.

>>166337968
I see your point, but NK fight wasn't really built up to in any way. You just bong the bell if you don't want unlimited dragonform and lo and behold he's there. you kill him, and forget about him.

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why is being a mound-maker so fucking comfy?

>I love being your guardian angel
>I love fucking you over

Hurry up with the new dlc so I can cream purple all over everyone in the new area.

>>166338030
I don't use my Quality Luck build, I got bored of Carthus and Onikiri. Meanwhile my STR build uses the Millwood Battle Axe and it's just so fun, I love catching people with the WA and pursuing them relentlessly with it.

I also use Yhorm's, which could be said is boring due to its moveset, but there's something really satisfying about hitting people with it and watching those high damage numbers pop up, especially when they come from a reactive shitter you managed to catch.

>>166338306
I suppose, but the point still stands. Could you imagine scraping bits of Aldrich off the walls in Firelink Shrine and throwing them back onto him? Or having to clean the armor and weapons of every one of the Abyss Watchers?
Depending on the Lord of Cinder, the Firekeepers probably loved their job, or hated it.

>>166338331
You can get it in less than 5 hours

>>166338565
>fanclub
>in less than 5 hours as a first-time player

try 8

>>166336989
Consider that the Watchers were hated by the masses of people they believed they could save.
Consider that they mistakenly believed that they could take up the mantle of a past knight, not minding the fact that he, too, failed miserably in the end.
Consider that they saw their own comrades fall to the Abyss one by one, and quietly removing them when they turned.
Consider that, even before you reach them, they're already killing each other down to the last man. They've been brought back to life despite most of them having lost their minds.
Consider that in the end, they completely failed to stop the Abyss and were consumed just like the guy they looked up to.
The Watchers were miserable failures on all accounts and were shunned by the public as well.
The only thing linking the fire did to them was prolong their own falling apart and suffering.

Beneath all those flashy moves and powerups, the Watchers are losers in every regard.
Whether anyone noticed that or not is something else.

>>166338102
She also turns away when using patches squat

What did she mean by this ?

smough's hammer is FUN