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Ignore tq, show MSpaint skills edition
previous thread: >>166250276

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed, if it wasn't full: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
>Avoid the line, join the /wfg/ alliance today! PM killsaw of Warbros NFA for inquiries

Don't Give TQ (you)s: http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/mental-health-aspergers-syndrome#1

>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
Warframe Raid Schoolbus: Hide your power lvl and follow the rules: https://discord.gg/aUTTyWH
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/wGxxMVo.jpg
Tierqueer Filters: https://gist.github.com/JustEndMyLife/8d7d68d5ebdffe5995a53c42edf43663
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CURRENT UPDATE: The Glast Gambit
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/738152-the-glast-gambit-update-195/
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> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/723544-the-war-within-1907-valkyr-prime/
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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Banshee Prime Never Ever
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>It's a forgot to equip Syndicate sigil for Sortie defense episode
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>tfw you forget that it was a syndicate mission until 3/4ths the way through when you see a medallion
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>>166300371
Why aren't you always wearing it?
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Reminder: whenever someone posts a retarded claim, ask them to post evidence of it.

They'll shut up. EVERY TIME.
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>>166300371
Just equip it and redo it?
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Do I apply again or will previous thread be checked by clan invite man
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>>166300493
Didnt have it equipped on Limbo and I only use Limbo to cheese Operative Defense.
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>>166300504
Do you have any evidence of this?
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>>166300184
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Which planet/moon has the most comfiest tilesets?
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>>166300184
>run into party of people introducing their new friends to the game while on a popular grind mission
>they're usually talking in chat or on voice
>use my operator in front of them and their friend while playing
>the new guy's friend gets triggered and rages at me

every time
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>>166300184
https://my.mixtape.moe/rgbukb.mp3
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>>166300630
>edge everywhere
>suddenly salad
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>>166300671
LUA
U
A
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I escaped this game a long time ago at the start of the second dream.
Is it worth coming back to in its current state or have DE only gotten worse?
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>>166300423

Duration and efficiency are both factors. Fleeting Expertise is often worth using to counter drain on channeled abilities but has the downside of reducing everything else as well. I wouldn't use FE on Mesa because it screws with Shatter Shield and Shooting Gallery too much for my tastes but if it works for you then go nuts.
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>>166300595
see>>166299935
>>166299269
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>>166300423
>>166300776
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>do sortie
>get 3-day booster

fuck right off
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>>166300783
Ah darn. I was hoping you would just shut up.
That would've been a little to easy I suppose.
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Didn't mean to cause a shitstorm with a build question. Instead I'll ask, what provides better reduction to powers that drain over time, duration or efficiency? Or does Duration even affect DoT powers?
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>>166300937
Mirage and Banshee should be swapped
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I just realised how fashionable Nidus' high heels are. Is he some kinda girlyboy.
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>>166301218
Nidus likes to strut his stuff.
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someone please post cute Nidus pics if there's any, I can't find anything
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>>166301082
Like Ember's 4?
I don't think Duration affects it.
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im getting really fucking sick of getting these dirty fucking lenses for doing these worthless fucking sorties

its like: "hey, we know you've maxed the zenurik tree, so for you taking your time and playing this high level content were' going to give you absolutely fucking NOTHING to show for you efforts. heres a regular zenurik lens just for you. you actually needed endo? too bad kid, wait another 24 hours. you thought you could get a riven? fat chance, we're going to single you out so you never ever fucking get one, you stupid loser."

I see kids get fucking rivens every fucking day but me? why would I be so fortunate? if you work at DE and you lurk these generals put in a fucking memo to take lenses out of the reward pool. I would much rather spend plat on the stupid fucking things than get them as rewards.
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>>166300889
Oh god what the fuck how do I read this? Are the regions what % of the original cost the power is?
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>>166301472
>remove lenses
>add plat to sortie rewards
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>>166298934
>>166301437
we need more cityes in warframe
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>Corpus shields don't scale in a way that requires you to bring Magnetic/etc. for high level Corpus shit
>Grineer armor scales so much that you have to have obscene damage or a high status weapon with Corrosive for high level Grineer shit

>You can bring Grineer elemental'd weapons to Corpus missions fine
>You can't bring Corpus elemental'd weapons to Grineer missions

Why? This is retarded. It would actually be FUN to have high level Corpus be resistant to everything but Magnetic/Toxin just like Grineer don't take shit from anything but Corrosive. Diverse weapon builds are fun DE. FUN.
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>>166301527

The more Efficiency and Duration you have the closer you move to the top left-hand corner.

There is a hard cap on how low you can drop the cost.

Fleeting Expertise's efficiency bonus is greater than the duration penalty so it's a net positive when using channeled abilities. However it also gimps your other powers that rely on duration, especially since people usually go with Transient Fortitude over Blind Rage.

>>166301393

Duration does effect it.
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>>166300774
yes
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>>166300774
I take it this game is still the shithole it was when I left?

>>166301597
>Any method to gain plat other than buying it like a good goy.
That would make DE look less bad.
Plus they're hyper-apologetic forum base would find a way to make it look incredibly unfair even though rewarding high-level play with something like that is perfectly fine since there's almost no other fucking end-game content.
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>>166300184

>>166301720
>Magnetic
>Corrosive
>You can bring Grineer elemental'd weapons to Corpus missions fine
stop, you sound like you havent made it off the starchart yet
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>>166301720

Wait until you see an Enhanced Shields Corpus Sortie, anon.

Shit gets well out of hand and you'd better bring Toxin there.
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>DE will never utilize the massive potential for a Corpus vs Grineer pvp mode and the absolute robbery they could make off of cosmetics
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I NEED NITAIN
HELP
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>>166300937
ZEPHYR A CUTE
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>>166302451
REACTOR SABOTAGE CACHES, DON'T MISS ANY
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>nidus farm framerate extremely low
>everyone cannot use their abilities or attack
flawless design DE
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Is this game worth getting into.
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>>166302623
OROKIN
OR
REGULAR
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>actually soloed sortie 3 spy today

First time attempting to soloing sortie spy, feels good man.
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I need clever Charger pet names, help me out /wfg/
I'm not doing the whole 'X names it' shit because its always the same shit meme names
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>>166303035
BOOOOTH
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>>166303256
cumfart
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>>166303082
Spy missions with other people is heavily counterintuitive.
Especially with randoms.
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>>166303082
>soloing
>spy
wooooooooow
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Please help
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>>166303410
just do it like you'd do a sortie int
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>>166303410

Slowva, drop Spectres at every Intercept point, profit.
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I just got my first riven, is it worth anything? Looks kinda shit.
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>>166303410
What the fuck, how the hell are you meant to do that when enemies spawn across the map to insta cap shit with you being EVEN SLOWER?

The only one I see this feasibly working on is the one on the Grineer Shipyard and I'm pretty sure you can't get a level 30+ one of those.
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I just got my Zarr to lvl 30, i want to forma it but i'm unsure on what build to go for, do i just build it like a tonkor or is there something more viable?
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>>166303726
You can drop multiple specters?
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>>166303256
Rheumatism
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Do I have to repost my application if it goes unanswered in a thread?
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>>166300184
9000 hours
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>>166303410
banshee
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>>166303745
Preview and post the maxed stats
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>>166303964

As long as you bring multiple types yes. Each one can only be dropped once.

I took Clem, a Corrupted Lancer, and one of the Spectres we get from Rescues.
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It's time lads. HOPES AND DREAMS COME TRUE

Giving away 8 items from the store, potatos, syandas, deluxe skins, etc. BE SPECIFIC WITH WHAT YOU WANT. Just don't ask for silly shit like a frame or a weapon.

Leave your:

1) IGN
2) What you want
3) a small nerf for a frame that will turn it Oberon-tier

After ~30mins I'll pick my favorite 8, or all of them if there aren't enough
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>>166303410
I just used Ember on the Eris interception mission.
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>>166304272
wew
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>>166304429

1) AbominationJones
2) Bursa bobblehead for my collection
3) Volt's Speed no longer costs Energy and acts as a persistent ability on activation, but will drain energy based on how fast you move (which means faster builds drain faster)
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>>166304429

1. ArcticSalt
2. Excalibur Proto-Armor Skin
3. Rhino's Iron Skin decays over time
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>>166304429
armedpoop
30 day resource booster
Banshee sonar no longer scales with power str
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>>166303017
only if you play a lot.
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>>166304693
only Satan himself could think of such a change
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>finally get a charger
>same animations as kubrows
>same sounds as kubrows
>hats clipping the shit out of everything because its fucking kubrow armor
>all abilities are from the shared kubrow abilities which are the shittiest ones
>good damage though
?

whats the point of this? other than 6000 mastery rank points
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>>166303017

I started playing about 50 something days ago and I currently have 282 hours according to Steam. So, yeah.
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Friendly reminder only people with learning disabilities can't flawless uranus spy sortie.
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>>166304429
1) PrismShank
2) Loki Knave Skin
3) Nova's Molecular Prime now drains extra energy for each enemy affected and is "fixed" so negative power doesn't speed up enemies.

>>166304930
DE is fixing it as we speak :^)
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>>166305025
friendly example that even people with learning disabilities can flawless uranus spy.
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>>166304930
At least its not a plat reskin like hyekkas
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>>166304429
1) JackingTheBox
2)Frost Harka Skin
3)Ember's world on fire only hits the target you're aiming at
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>>166304429
1. NeoShadowHzFx
2. Harkonar Armor Set
3. Wukong's Defy is now works like other channeling abilities and prevents you from gaining energy during it.
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>>166304930
It was rushed content. The Charger is getting an update (or, knowing DE, will let you keep Chargers and add the change seperate) to look very Nidus-like, the pic is around somewhere.
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>>166301967
You're retarded. Their shields are pathetic and the only time they aren't is when a shield drone is humping them but guess what, you can shoot the thing making their shields not-shit.

>>166302070
Yes, the enhanced shields sorties are how they should be by default.

You bring a Magnetic/Toxin weapon and they aren't shit. You bring a Grineer weapon and you can't kill shit.

That's exactly how Grineer are normally, why aren't Corpus the same? Because MUH NULLIFIERS?

You will literally never kill a 100+ Grineer Elite with Magnetic. Or anything but specifically Corrosive, for that matter. Corpus are just so much weaker it's almost boring
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Time to farm kuva??????
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>>166305327
You dont have lategame/"endgame" experience do you
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>>166305264
>Wukong's Defy is now works like other channeling abilities and prevents you from gaining energy during it.

I thought it was already like that? I know rage works, and energy orbs work, but thats about it, right?
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>>166305443
>mr8
Free endo.
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Is it possible to finish a quest the 2nd time if you get it from the junctions? I started my Limbo quest again but got stuck at getting the proof fragments for the system theorum even though I already crafted the 2nd theorum, did I end up having that quest stuck there forever?
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>>166305538
mastery has nothing to do with stats. only with how much endo you get from melting.
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>>166305538
Nigger it's a Soma riven. That's free plat.
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>>166305538
>MR determines how good the mod is


No it doesnt. From everything ive seen it doesnt matter at all.
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>>166304429
1: indutias
2: classic saturated color palette
3: valkyr's hysteria has its invincibility and health steal removed
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>>166304429

1) HangedManZero
2) Hunhlows Gift
3)Mesa's 4 has doesn't use pistol mods and can't turn around
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>>166305475
Oh I do and I've played the game for long enough to be annoyed by the obvious gap in threat level between Corpus and Grineer

But from what I'm seeing it looks like you're in the process of straw manning this into UR A NOBO instead of responding to anything that actually was said, so don't worry about it.
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>>166305754
>valkyr's hysteria has its invincibility and health steal removed

That's not a "small" nerf you idiot, that basically just gutted the ability.
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>>166305443
dont you know grandpa? -100dmg% torid is all the hot shit around now
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>>166305701
I've seen top rolled ones go for 1K plat
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I like the way the numbers look on this build, and if y'all think QT would be better on Mesa, then I can change it no problem. I just went with Steel Fiber because it doesn't cost energy and Mesa needs it. Do you think any different mod would serve me better? Obviously, I'm going for a Peacemaker build and I left some duration in there so I could buff it with her 2.
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postan
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>>166305954
10/10

do you mind if I save this?
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>>166305901
I meant to type that the health steal would be lowered, fuck
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>>166305991
is that mogamu in your favorite dev box?
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>>166305954

Use Vitality over Steel Fibre. Quick Thinking is pointless since she shouldn't be taking enough damage to activate it any way and if she is it means you won't be able to use her "lolz, invincible :^)" skill in Shatter Shield any way.
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>>166306221
>responding in earnest to shitposts
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>>166305829
>magnetic
>not using toxin
>corrosive
>not having 4xCP
there you go friend, and its not strawmanning because that is actually your problem
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>>166305954
FUCKING FORGOT PIC AGAIN KILL ME
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>>166303862
any help here?
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>>166306221
>not using any sort of defensive mod because you'll be 24/7 invisible thanks to shade or cuck ivara players or power strength because you squad will bring 4x CP+ equinox + ember to buff you

Get out of my general shitter.
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>>166306337
>armor
no. very no.
also
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>>166306221
>gets told multiple times to use Vitality
>doesn't use Vitality
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they're shit, right?
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>>166306337
>steel fiber
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The baro shoulders are great, what do the leg armor look like?
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tempo royale or cleaving whirlwind for war?
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>>166306596
>Daikyu
Unless you can use Rivens in Conclave (lol) don't bother.
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>>166306623
Do you mean the Ki'Teer plates?
Looks like the shoulder pieces. General rule is that all armor shoulder plates are identical to the leg ones just about
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>>166306337
Armor does nothing unless you're cold chroma
armor does extra-nothing if you put it on a sub300 armor frame
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>>166306785
Cleaving whirlwind for serious, tempo for fun
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>>166301378
i only found one, famalam

>>166301720
why? if in the end you shoot the very same shit everytime, the very same weapon in very mission. Do you really want to make dealing eith the mods and arsenal even more of a nuisance? Making you reemplace mods that basically will end up doing the same shit for the sake of calling it content its just as lazy and stupid, it adds nothing to the game, the only thing you change is forcing people to deal with that slowass glorified HUD that is the ship to change fucking mods, that adds nothing. Making something mandatory does not add complexity nor variations, it actually removes it, its an awfull idea.
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>slowly saving nitain to build vaub prime
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>best melee mods are from Stalker acolytes

So that's not a thing anymore right? Guess my melee game is going no where.
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>>166304429
ign RMME
hunhows gift
make mesa point and click every enemy during peacemaker
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>>166303790
its piss easy, and hobbled key does not affect jumps, cunts, just bullet jump and stack movements like roll in it or put a bullet jump mod. I solo interceptions with shit like inaros, frost and Oberon everytime, just fucking jump
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>>166307168
>built vauban prime after saving up
>that one archwing needs fucking loads as well
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>>166304429
It's over, everyone got a prize!

Going to do 1-2 of these every week until I run out of plat
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>>166307168
>>166307449
Is it worth running sabotage for Nitain?
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>>166307606
i dont think so.
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>>166307606
no
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>>166307580
Thats gonna take a while isnt it?

That means you wont stop shitting up these generals any time soon doesnt it....
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>>166307449
>>166307168
oh how i feel you guys, think is i'm a new player as well so oxium is ravaging my ass too
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>>166307580
how much time you spend jewing to get so much plat?
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>>166307746
Got 20k to burn through
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>>166307580
Thanks my dude

also I sent you a friend request like sometime mid last year as a meme and you STILL havent accepted it :(
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>>166307580
Thanks m8, one of the 2 deluxes i was missing
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>>166307580
So once or twice a week?

are you gonna be sending the same people multiple gifts or are you gonna try to spread it around as much as you can?
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>>166307580
Thanks, guy. you're pretty cool
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>>166308071
I don't mind if someone gets multiple things. I've done 3 so far and everybody got something since there weren't a lot of replies.
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So what kind of stats should I be looking for on a Soma Riven mod? Crit change, damage & raw damage?
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>>166308236
>there weren't a lot of replies

This is surprising. I thought people enjoyed free shit?
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>>166307580
Thanks for the skin, TierQueer
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>>166307168
Fuck nitain.

Oxium is the killer.
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>>166308335
Lotsa people are jaded vets that have all the stuff and plat to buy anything for themselves.

>>166308428
Mobile Defense, Nekros it up.
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>>166307580
Saw your message during the Nitain alert, thanks for the Bursa bobblehead, going right in the collection with the other cute Bursa bobbleheads.
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>>166308297
>crit change

crit chance is good, multishot is too. reroll until you get these stats. if you want it to be even better, get some crit damage.

okay - stats would i think be status or reload time.

>>166308428
oxium isnt hard at all, while nitain is time gated. you can get > 3k oxium in one single run.
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>>166308335
yeah I thought so too, but I'm sure the people who got shit don't mind
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>nidus systems
>nidus neuroptics
>nidus systems
>nidus systems
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Where is the newest tierlist? I legit want to know, haven't played since before titania release
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>>166308335
I can think of a few reasons why someone might choose to not try, the backlash at BPNPC's frame guide and not wanting to associate themselves with him, not knowing if it's a ruse despite the last two being real or just being too shy to post a request.
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Is it just me or is Nidus' 3 extremely underwhelming?

It should be a support ability which mimics whatever it is that Ancient Healers do. I still don't know exactly what's going on with them, but it's pretty damn powerful.
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>>166308526
You say that 3k oxium in a run is possible but i honestly can't get even 1k per mission, what am i doing wrong?
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>>166308761
I can understand not wanting to be associated with BPNPC, but does that really matter on an chinese corn farming board?

not knowing if its a ruse also makes sense.

but being too shy to post a request is strange to me. I guess I dont understand how shy some can really be.
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>>166308631
>nidus neuroptics
>nidus chassis
>nidus neuroptics
>nidus systems
in a row on first day
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>>166308690
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>>166308761
if the
>do it until I run out of plat
means he is done with this game and this general then by all means buy me shit I don't want to buy with my own plat.
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>>166308631
>11 C rotations
>0 parts
I'll just buy it
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TGDM makes raid guides, tq imitates
Tom makes a weapon list, tq imitates
Frogposter does givaways, tq imitates
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>come back from nitain alert
>see this

???
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>>166308690
>>166309061
Ignore this shit
If you haven't played since titania, all you need to know is titania is meh, and nidus is bretty gud.
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>>166309061
what happened to S tier etc, this is far less in depth
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>>166309161
>general has a heated serious conversation, he avatarfags and tries to bud in
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>>166309203
Bug where color correction turns itself on.
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>>166304429

hey I lost my dog yesterday :c so it's been pretty rough

ign: mirrormove

I think it's done already, but if you would like :c hunhow's gift. ty anyway
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>>166309314
I play with color correction on (I know)
the problem here is that I couldnt do anything at all, no hud, no frame, no response from the keys.

soft locked due to sleeki breeki
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@166309439
It's okay, you'll get over it. I went through the same thing.
No need to stoop that low just because you're a little down.
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>>166309439
>:c
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>>166304429

aw, i'm late every time.
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>>166308775

> extremely underwhelming

but why ? the power str is nice even if it is less than what a buffing Equinox gives

as a defensive tool it is better than link
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>>166309274
Because it turns out that Warframe isn't a game where you need that much depth.
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Wat do, reroll or ok?
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>>166304429

still ign: mirrormove

forgot to answer 3). Mirages clones don't do damage
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>>166310358
keep that one, but keep rerolling
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>>166310358
>no crit damage, chance, dmg% or crit chance,crit damage, multishot

Absolute garbage
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>>166310847
>>166310540
Back to the kurva
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>>166310410
holy fucking begger
and you are mirage memulor player
kys
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>>166309161
IT REALLY GETS THIS NEURONS SPARK'IN
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>>166309161
but I started gifting before all those other posers did
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Does anyone even do archshit raids? I heard its so fucked up now you can't even finish it
>tfw never getting that emblem
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>>166300184
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>>166311071
>falsehood
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>>166311395
its tru tho, I did some giveaways all the way back in 2015. The fact you don't know about it proves how new you are
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>>166304429
madclock
frost harka bundle/skin (prefer bundle ofc)
ivara's ulti drain energy for time, not per shot
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>>166311395
>Bionicle
My fucking nigga.
>tfw good Bionicle themed MMO with detailed crafting system never ever
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>>166311543
>2015
kek
>your new
double kek
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>>166311395

Careful. He'll demand you link to proof from the archives, then demand you post your hours played, mods sorted by rank, warframe collection and Endo count for disagreeing with him, then post doctored screencaps for the next 50 threads.

Truth and logic are no defrence.
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>still no real way to play as 100% support other than afk ember but then people yell at you for doing nothing even though you're giving them 2000% bonus fire dmg

Time to look for a new game
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>>166311643
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>>166311543

Do you have any prove that backs up your claim? :^)
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>kuva flood on lvl 100 raptor assassinate
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?
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>>166311932
>doing Kuva floods for 1200~ Kuva when you can do 2 Kuva siphons for even more in about the same time
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>>166308631

>mod
>mod
>relic
>mod
>relic
>mod
>mod
>MODMODODODODODOOMOMODODODODODODODOD
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So, how do you justify judging a warframe or weapon as "bad", at wich point it should be considered bad. At how many bullets/time should a weapon be considered bad when fighting an enemy/group of enemies.Do you measure things like reaload/down time of a weapon or if it plays the same that other, "better" weapon? Which kind of mission you should not be able to beat to consider a warframe bad, or how much are you willing to put into a warframe before deciding its a bad warframe and you dont want to use it anymore? Should a warframe reach the point to trivialize a mission to be called good?

Ive soloed interception, assasinations, excavations, mobilie defenses, regular defenses, kuva floods in and outside sorties with Zephyr and Oberon, and even when they are not perfect, and Zephyr can't do much outside of defense kind of missions (grenades can still damage you and the excavator, as an example), if in the fucking end you can do the missions inside the game without going full retarded and play an endless for 5 hours against enemies that dont change at all and calling it a challenge when the game is just cheap or be cheaped, why the fuck do you measure to call a frame bad? You can beat the game with them, startchart and sorties are what you are "suposed" to be doing according to what DE gives you, what else do you need?

Im not even defedind those warframes either, even when I do like playing Oberon, my favorites are Ivara, Inaros, frost and whatever that lets me dumb and focus on weapons so I can't die or get knocked back (like nekros), but those random "bad" and "good" have no context most of the time, its retarded to just mention "good" or "bad" at all in those settings.

tl;dr
At wich point/conditions/"difficulty" inside wich kind of mission do you consider a weapon or warframe "bad"?
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>>166312446
General factors for good/bad;
- Stats that suggest a higher performance compared to others, such as better crit chance

General factors for good/bad in /wfg/ shitter style
- IF IT AINT PRIME AND ONESHOTTING EVERYTHING IN THE GAME I DONT WANT IT
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>>166312446
What can it do vs lvl 100+ enemies?
>nothing
its a terrible frame
What does it bring to the squad?
>nothing
its a terrible frame
Does it sabotage your own squad while being """""""""viable""""""""""?
>yes
its a terrible frame

Nobody gives a shit about your mercury adventures with valkyr
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>>166312446
>warframes
If they play like oberon they are shit

>weapons
If they are like the tonkor they are good, else they are bad
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>>166312446
Does this frame have the potential to trivialize (if support) or faceroll (if offense) post-DEAC?

No?

It's bad.
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>silent pubbies who rush the mission
FURIOUS
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>>166311184
RAID SCHOOL BUS

that shit takes less than 30 mins, I do it everyday in my clan.

>>166311932
>Who is mag

>>166312137
>1200 kuva a flood

>>not using and abusing charm
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>>166312446
I generally think anything that isn't capable of killing things at a reasonable pace around Sedna / T3 Void without mods is bad. Everything else is good.
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>>166312751
go fast or go solo
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>>166312814
Last time I played mag (after her 'rework') she was garbage.
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>>166312814
I never used a Kavat before so I had to go look up why you'd use that and I'll admit that you're right, that is a good idea
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>>166309061

>my boy hydroid in the bad/niche tier

nigga, he's amazing for interception, he can basically cover one point without even being there.
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>>166312446
Weapons:
>Can it kill a 145 CHV in 2~ seconds?

Frames:
>Will it die in 2~ seconds to a 145 CHV
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>>166312446
for frames: >>166312749 is perfectly legit. at some point post-DEAC you will need frames to trivialize the game, otherwise you and your other team members will have used up all their revives up pretty quick if you didnt already fail the mission.

judging frames on DEAC is stupid because its possible to be played without abilities and survivability at all.

for weapons: any weapon that kills enemies quick enough to get sufficient life support in t4 survival even when doing long runs is a good weapon.

this doesnt mean other weapons are bad, many weapons get a chance at being even more amazing with newly released mods and thus new builds to max their potential.

again, judging on DEAC makes no sense as in that case everything would be considered alright.

frames and weapons that trivialize DEAC even more ARE shown as such in most lists and recognized as niche.
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>>166313348
>2 seconds
Riven mods with -status bring it to 0.1 or 0.5 at best anon. The more realistic time is 6 seconds because thats how long viral lasts.
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Why are Mutagen Mass rewards from Invasions so much rarer than the other two research components, and why do they only come in singles as opposed to triples?
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>>166312749

But post-DEAC doesn't exist anymore, really.
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>>166313348
I want these women to sit on my face and suck my dick dry.
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>>166313151
Tentacle rape is his niche. Vauban does it better anyway.

>>166313776
It still exists, but they removed and reason to do it.
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Did they change mirage's noble walk animation or is there a walk toggle I'm missing now?
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>>166313776
>i don't know what fissures are
>what are sorties
>is this the index thing giving anything?
>why would you do kuva flood missions when you can shitter it up with regular ones ecksdee
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>>166313920
>women
ahahaha
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>>166314058

All of those are explicitly DEAC.
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>>166312749
post-DEAC is entirely irrelevant, you know that right?
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>>166314080
A tenno can dream, Clem.

While I am talking about Clem, does Clem get Tenno pussy?
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>>166313151
and other CC frames can lockdown the entire map instead of just 1 point.

And Ivara can endlesly solo Intercept
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>>166300184
So i stoped playing warframe during the time where the Vauban prime pack was still viable. What has changed since then?

Any changes and additions to warframes,weapons,pets,sentinels,maps,content,lore and so on?
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>>166314165
Go ahead and do them with a 130%130%130%130% ember along with a sybaris,akstilleto prime,galatine without getting carried by actually good players you
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>>166314192
Clem does NOT get Tenno genitalia.
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>>166312446
Everything is relative. A frame is worse than another frame if does things worse. You can make anything viable in this game with enough effort, because this game is not difficult. Relativity is what defines a frame as good or bad.

>>166313776
Its meaning has changed. Post-DEAC is just an easy-to-use catchall to refer to everything post-starchart, lv50+ enemies though most of the time it's referring to lv80-100 enemies
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>>166314397
So... des he not understand?
Or.. does he not get?
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>>166313776
>But post-DEAC doesn't exist anymore, really
It depends who you are.
New players consider Sorties as engame because they are the hardest thing they are able to do. Intermediate players generally consider raids as endgame because of how hard they are to organize and find groups for. Veteran players see endgame as endless missions like survival/defense and how to cheese them.

When Intermediate players talk to Veteran players about endgame there is always this conversation. Veterans have the minmax and cheese mindset, intermediates usually dont.

>>166314342
Nidus is good, helminith charger is a reskin and MR fodder, Ohma are good, zarr is really fun, The War Within is either pretty good or pretty bad depending on who you ask
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>>166314490
Both.
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>>166314372
Wouldn't those mods fuck up most frames though?
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>>166314372

Those have nothing on >2-hour T4 Survivals and can be done without too much trouble with most anything. You must be bad. I'm sorry, anon.
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>>166313776
fissures try to fill the void. ha.

every check (5min surv, 5 waves def, 2 extractors) you get a stackable 25% booster of one type, with the exception of every fifth. on every fifth cracked relic / closed fissure if running without you get a pre-refined relic, with the first one being at the first level, and at and after relic 15 you get flawless relics every 5 relics.
the relics match the rarity of the fissure you are doing at the moment and can be used immediatly.

with the stacked boosters you should be able to get affinity and resources and as such void traces at an extreme rate. repeat and try to reap rare drops.

>>166314186
it may be to some, but its the only factor i can scale my frames to. long fissure runs are FUN and can give nice rewards.

also, what would i even be doing if not post-DEAC? everything else is just boringly easy.

>>166314372
this is not the right way to increase difficulty.
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>>166314553

>Clem will never get SexEd by meridian Steel allied Tenno.
>B-But I thought we came from Tubes?!
>>
Is the Hema even good?
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>>166314634
>2-hour T4 Survivals
which are effectively removed from the game because there's no point in doing them. Endgame must have reward. The closest thing we have to endgame are sorties now. Talking about shit like 2h runs are simply misleading.
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>>166314805
No
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>>166314696
>this is not the right way to increase difficulty.
Its what the average shitter would have while he breezes through DEAC and then thinks he cleared the game.
100% of the time people saying post-DEAC don't exist they dont even have basic corrupted mods and use ultra-shitter weapons like opticor or daikyo
>but anon my riven is making it GODLIKE XD!
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>>166314537
Is there nothing more new? Is there a site where i can read up on all this?
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>>166314805
Shit store desu
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>>166314805
steaming pile of shit
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>>166314805
Made mine, got the mastery, sold it

Its fucking trash, the shit storm behind it is unnecessary
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>>166315096
>>166315158
>>166315190
I just wish there was a good Infested Primary to use with Nidus. Synapse desperately needs more range
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>>166314860

I think that was anon's point. There is no meaningful post-DEAC anymore unless you just feel like blowing a bunch of relics out of boredom, hence arguments about post-DEACable weapons/builds/frames is mostly tail-chasing. All "endgame" now is only marginally more challenging than starchart and can be done with whatever.
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>>166315190
>unnecessary
>I WANT DE to shit useless weapons locked behind D A Y S of the entire clan grinding it nonstop with full stack of boosters
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>>166315442
>im a pussy who can't join a clan thats lower than moon so im going to whine and bitch until I get what I want

ftfy
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>>166312864
USE MAGNETIZE

not only can the bastards NOT shoot you, you deal double damage from shooting the bubble
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>>166315553
>>166315442
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>>166314916
for me the only reason to play is accomplishment. and you can tell me what you think gives me more accomplishment: a long fissure run that actually gives me rewards for playing long or a long and painful sortie run in which i know i cant do my best and get the same as if i breezed through them.

>>166314860
yes, fissure runs give rewards if you play them long enough. refined relics and tons of void traces are in my case alright. not as good as the extra loot you get when you can only use one key for infinite loot, but alright.

>>166315442
>>166315190
it was a desperate and bad attempt at promoting clan play. the grind is not as bad as everyone says, with a team of 4 i would think of about 10 runs each 25 minutes for 5k
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doing some early spring cleaning wfg. Remaking large portions of the Nova skin.
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>>166315419
there is a significant divide between starchart and sorties/kuva, specifically lv80-100.
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>>166307580
Thanks for the Excal skin.
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>>166315553
>p-please join my c-clan
>message me on reddit!
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>>166315620
>over 14 hours of grinding
>for a full team
>in the lowest tier of clan
anon i dont think you realise the gravity of the situation...
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>>166315706
Like old abs better
Can you make her thiccer
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>>166312864
max range is mags new meta

>>166315706
glad to hear
ever thought of a scorpion theme? would take a lot of modeling, but prosthetic legs might be cool
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>>166315875
Build?
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Generally, how do you 'value' how much a Riven is worth? Like, I know that the right one is worth a lot less than the left one, since it has a lot worse stuff on it - albeit unrolled still.

Vague fuckabout to get to know the value of these.
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>>166315831
you seem to have misunderstood.

10 runs a 25 minutes each.
250 minutes.
a bit over 4 hours.

this is done with a full squad and a resource drop chance booster. if you cant even afford that 40p, grind another hour or so.

also, bigger clans dont need longer, they need more active people. if a shadow clan tries to, just try to get 3 squads on. thats less than half of a full active clan, which sounds pretty alright.
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>>166315875
Can't change the model, just play dress up.

>>166315860

New stuff is wip. That's why it says wip;)
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>>166316180
forgot to add, only ONE of the squad used the drop chance booster in my case. all of my calculations are based on runs of my clan, not mathematics.
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>>166312672
I also judge weapons and warframes against 100-120 level enemies just because that is what I expect to see in sorties. I judge them based on how much I can do against lvl 100 napalms since those dont die for shit. The dera vandal I use can consistently kill a lvl 80 napalm in less than a magazine (60 shoots), and it takes me one magazin and about 1/3 to kill a lvl 100 but on headshoot only so not realible since that will usually wont happen, yet it's ammo hungry and unless I spam a lot of ammo restores before leaving an area I'll not be able to do much with it besides waiting for the pad to refill my ammo but that takes too long, so I dont really consider the dera vandal as great, as an example, but it is still good enough in settings where ammo its not going to be a problem as an example (short missions, defenses where you can afford stay in a small place to refill your ammo since there is no place to go anyway). Thats pretty much the limit for me since its what you can see in sorties to the point where you've beat the mission instead of deciding to keep going on your own like a survival. Also, requiring to be babysitted to do good is also how I consider a warframe bad, especially when it can't do somethin teammates cant compensate for, like banshee and adding damage when there are weapons that dont need buffs at all to basically kill everything, as an example. I still like banshee tough because she let me use crappy weapons but she can require hardass babysitting sometimes unless you make a build to spam 3 but that fucks up sonar and quake. nothing you cant do using warframes that can use weapons and also survive.

>>166313554
Do you measure sorties as DEAC because that pretty much what they are since they are in settings DE want players to experience inside the game. I dont know how you would do that without abilities besides some settings with inaros

>>166314405
yeap, thats why I wanted to hear the setting people use to say "good" or "bad".
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>>166300937
>No Ivara
Where's my waifuuuu
>>
>>166316096
>Shit weapon(like pic related)?
endo
>Random not-shit weapon (boltor,penta)?
barely over veiled price
>Good weapon with 0 rerolls(soma,brakk,tigris)?
good value for negotiating prices but dont expect much
>Good/popular(dread) shitter weapon with 2 stats and 0 bad ones?
Lots of plat
>Meta weapon(somaprime,tonkor,simulor) with 3 good stats?
You're fucking rich
>>
So what is a post-DEAC frame and why
>>
So im confused

Why play any other frame than mirage with a synoid tho?
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>>166315860
This
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>>166316096
I second this question
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>>166315950
lanka works well also, and the exilus slot is flexible

>>166316096
the stats only matter if they have multiple rerolls or if they are really good stats.

>>166316218
damn
will they let you update the skin?
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So I built the most damage-oriented builds I could for both flavors of Hek. Am I a retard? If so, why?
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>>166316616
There are several but i'd have to delet this
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what to max first crit chance or invisibility
>>
>>166316882
Naramon? Shadow Step first, then the mastery for quicker casting.
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>>166316715
DON'T BAIT HIM
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>>166316667
We will see. Minor cosmetic things should be fine. In this case it's a pretty hefty update +new custom helmet. Rebecca is going to look into it next week. So I'm just doodling a bit atm.

The plan is to retroactively give all past buyers the helmet for free then adjust the price if possible for new buyers.

But nothing confirmed yet so.
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>>166316096
ill buy the spira from you, or ill give u a hind+miter riven for it :^)
>>
>>166316096
>>166316654
you dont. you listen to trade chat and try to find people with a knack for that specific weapon and sell as high as possible. that will mean for many not so often used weapons between 50 and 70, for niche and liked ones you can sell probably between 80 and 120.

rivens for weapons everyone uses have been nerfed so hard that except for unrolled or best stats you wont really be able to sell them. unrolled of those can be worth between 120 and 200, depending on the jew level of the buyer. good stat rivens can be worth a lot.

also, both shown rivens arent bad. a surprising amount of people have a javlok fetish, and spira is one of the nicer crit throwables.
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>>166316715
dont expect realistic numbers out of warframebuilder
use DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 instead and just patch it yourself to current update
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>>166316616
monkeyboi and pizzacutter with his DJ girlfriend
unless it was fixed recently
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i still wanna be relevant
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>>166317294
delet
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>>166315706
So how is this gonna work? When you release the new version, do people need to buy another version or will we just get the skin updated? Cause Ill buy nova Graxx right now if its the latter.
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>>166316715
>critical decel
>accel blast
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>>166317294
nerfed
for the 4th time in a row
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>>166317467
The idea is the latter. BUT it needs to be confirmed with DE first. They need to script add shit and things need to get signoff. So hold onto your 5 dollars for now anon
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>>166316595

Here you go.
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>>166317684
Will do, thanks for the heads up. I like the old version of Nova Graxx, but I cant lie man, the straps on the legs just MAKE these skins for me.

I ended up getting that other one that makes her look like a flight attendant back it when they 1st released. Been using that ever since, but change is good.
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>>166317087
do you think that even when the helmet is rejected as bonus that they will let you update the skin? because i like the current helmet. its a qt. but i really look forward to the skin changes.
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>>166317220
wfbuilder and gottfaust literally calculate dps the same way. They're both copies of the simple formulas used in-game
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>>166316616
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>>166318284
>tonkor does 8k dps
>b-but wfbuilder is good
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>>166317380
Is the infected pet just a kubrow reskin?
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>>166317910
>>166317901


An update to the skin is coming no matter what
The question is in what capacity
. Minimum is new camo paint and fixed cloth texture IMO.

If the new helmet gets accepted it won't replace the old.one. it will just add another one. Just like the excal graxx CES with 2 helmets
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>>166318310
>this dumb meme again
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where the fuck do lunar pitchers spawn
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>>166318561
On the moon, you fucking retard.
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>>166318561
>lunar
what has lunar properties?
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>>166318483
I will buy once updated regardless of helmet or not desu.
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>>166318642
>>166318656
I mean what mission you subhuman apes
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>>166318483
thanks for putting some work into it even when you could choose not to. yes, this might be just for the sake of shekles but i dont care.

im really looking forward to the changes.
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>>166318437
because wfbuilder doesn't take into account headshot crits

The formulas it uses are accurate, but it's also limited since it only purely works with formulas. You just have to use your brain to analyze the numbers. WFBuilder has always been a simple and effective tool for skipping formulas by hand
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>>166318561

In Lunaro, duh. It's the only reason to play that shit.
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>>166318776
ALL OF THEM
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>>166318453
Nope. If you have a fully grown cyst on your warframe's neck you can remove it and splice a kubrow egg with it, and you'll get a helminth charger. The model is going to change soon to something better.
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>>166318509
Really? This is intro level cheese and you still don't know about it? Jesus
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>>166318981
Everybody and their mothers know about the gas EB meme. Radiant Finish is a garbage augment
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>have 2 sybaris rivens
>one in reserve has +damage +damage to grineer
>roll the second one to this

What does it all mean?
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>>166319067
>EB
Spot the shitter
You really don't know how it works? Pretty fucking sad
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>>166318793
Well it's not like she will do worse after I manage to update her. In one day the ember skin outsold lifetime sales of the Nova one:)

It's more cause I'm OCDing a bit when I line all of them up and the Nova one is am obvious one that doesn't fit due to it being the first one. So later ones have better texture work overall, things like the quilted padding etc. So going to try to bring her closer to home with that stuff
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>>166319203
post both. if they have the same stats we may be able to see if MR has any influence on stat maximum.
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>>166317105

I'm curious what a Miter riven might look like.
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>>166319221
The gas build works on EB as well as on melee weapons you dumb fucking retard. But why you want to use the fucking lesion instead of a ranged EB makes me question the number of digits in your IQ.
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>>166318927
Does he have different skills and mods?
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>>166318813
>thinks tonkor does 16k dps
>defends wfbuilder because ????
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>>166300184
reposting because last thread 404'd and not having a clan so i can't trade fucking sucks

IGN: Zonzo

I was part of Warbros in the past
and thought I had left warframe behind
Now i'm back to have a blast
as my autism called me back to the grind
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>>166318284
No, they don't.
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>>166319475
did you read nothing I fucking wrote
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>>166319502
Nice bait
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>>166319465
yes
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Helminth_Charger
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>>166319502
>9s
have fun in maroos bazar :^)
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What's the best energy for Chroma?
Cold right?
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>>166319650
they literally do.
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>>166319915
toxic
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>>166319940
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>mfw I miss all the giveaways and I never make any sales to get plat
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>>166319895
last time I applied and got in I was at 13 seconds :^)
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>>166319915
depends on what you are going for
ice: good against any faction with high RoF, essentially doubling your ehp if your luck
fire: good if you have a companion or team mates you want to keep alive with some insane max health
toxin: good if you want to improve the reload on low ammo capacity weapons (think tigris)
electric: fun
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Hey, is Equinox good at endgame? Mine's about to finish crafting in about a day and after reading its skills I want to use it as my main frame for everything. I only have one Orokin Reactor and Exilus Adapter though so is it worth using those on Equinox?
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>>166319454
Tell me this: if it was a EB method why would the lesion be in the picture? Cmon, think... you can do it
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>>166309061
see>>166320170
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>>166319502
I can add you to my clan if you want. It's basically just me and a few friends. I am currently working on getting everything built up, since I left a basically dead clan that had everyone as the maximum rank (which fucked everything up when the Hema came out). Basically I've restarted, practically no research finished, but should eventually be done.
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>>166320170
he has essentially infinite scalling, its just that he is kind of hard to use. definitely a fun frame for sure, but he has a tough time fitting in with pub lobbies because to really see equinox shine you have to have a dedicated team. is viable for anything though, so no hydroid-syndrome here.
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>>166320393
>he
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>>166320202
>running up to enemies one by one using an actual melee, instead of mowing down crowds with a wave gun
>>
>Extract from ODD
>MISSION FAILED
???
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>>166320581
ggwp solid unbugged game
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>>166317552
Nani?
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>>166320451
oh shit! youre right!
>(you)

>>166320463
>mowing down enemies slowly when you can use superior melee to take down mutliple enemies at a time, even through walls
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>>166317220
How do I update it?
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>>166320134
Thanks
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>mfw i found a way to get almost literally infinite hysteria
IM NOT TELLING ANY OF YOU
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>>166319368

>higher MR is actually weaker


So does this confirm MR doesnt mean shit?
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>>166321115
OOOOOOH
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

rip people telling that mr matters
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>>166321115
The higher MR one is better, though.
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>>166321115
DE fucked this one up real good
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How do I farm Loki Prime if he's already vaulted?
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>>166321346
farm 300 plat from trade chat
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Did a couple more runs for my Nidus Neuorptics

>80 endo
>80 endo
>80 endo
>80 endo
>Vital Sense
>80 endo
>Stretch
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>>166321235
>3.7% more damage
real significant m8
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>>166321346
in the market :^)

no seriously. in the market.
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>>166317220
how does this thing work? It's posted a lot, but how reliable is it? What formulas does he use?
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>>166321442
delet this
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>>166321442
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>>166321021
so beautiful without makeup and 3000 filters
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>>166320463
>single enemy
>gas
Or
>guns
>implying this isn't More powerful
Take your place pick
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>>166321442
Hory shet!

delet delet delet
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>>166321442
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Which frame is the most stylish?
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>>166321387
Bitching works!
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>nukor riven

So make it into plat?
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>>166322156
Volt Prime.
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>Coming back after leaving shortly after second dream.
>Prepared for regret.
>Pick up good ol Mirage and try some alerts.
>mfw resource deposits.
>mfw actual buffs to focus farming with the bonus.
>mfw no more painful minmaxing with fusion cores.
What the fuck when did DE actually make good decisions.
>Focus STILL a beta after literal years.
JUST
Also can someone run me through how the new void works.
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>>166300184
Is the Lunaro playerbase good?
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>>166322936
Join Fissure Mission.
Pick a relic, you'll see what can drop.
While in mission, collect reactants, 10 of them.
Finish mission, choose 1 of 4 rewards (everyone gets a roll and you can choose someone else's reward).

Complete the Sedna Junction iirc to unlock the relic segment. Read the wiki on priming relics afterwards.
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>>166322936
Get relics
Run a few fodder relics to get 100 traces and ducats along the way
Upgrade a good relic to radiant for the rare piece
Get forma
Repeat
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>>166323136
>Lunaro
>playerbase
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>>166322936
Ok, so the void is just a rather pointless area now that only serves to get you argon crystals and as a place to fight corrupted Captain Vor in the level 40+ areas. Prime parts are now gotten through void relics, which you equip for fissure missions and collect reactant in those missions to open the relic.

>>166323145
You get the relic upgrade segment from the Mars junction.
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What does the little star with wreath mean on mods?
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>>166322936
focus farming is still cancer
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>>166323559
Conclave
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>>166308631
>Nidus Systems
>Nidus Systems
>Nidus Systems
>Mod
>Mod
>Nidus Systems
>Nidus Helmet
>3 days of Mods
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>>166322156
this >>166322905
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>havent logged on a while
>buy a mod i already own
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>>166324028
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huh..
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Which Warframe has the best hips
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>>166324296
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>>166324028
Being a slut isn't stylish anon
It's a cry for help
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>>166324380
Saryn
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>>166324380
Volt Prime
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>almost round 4 of nidus grind
>some fuck leaves
>connection to host has been lost
FUCKING STOP IT DAMMNIT
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>>166324380
Frost.
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>>166315706
>Playing on PS4 now due to family situation
>Off-handily mention that creator of skins for Warframe, creator of Clem, John Prodman and a few other things are from the place I go to and Clan I use to role with
>Hahah Anon you make up the funniest fake stories

Fuck, this entire General and Warbros is like some fucking myth clan that shit that never "happened" from a game like .hack//sign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUrU0gu2mN0
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>>166324380
>>166324563
yes
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>11 radiants for chasiss
>best I ever got was 1 uncommon
>2 radiants rare bp on the second
>6 normals for trace fodder got a rare for carrier
Bring back keys.
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>>166324380
Ivara, Saryn, Trinity would have THE biggest hip/thigh gap in the game under her lobster skirt, someone should have the image with it
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>>166324380
banshee
>>
I'm completely new to Warframe and I've been mostly enjoying it, but is it as much of a grind as it looks like it'll be? It looks like if I want to get a new Warframe it'll take an entire week at the very least to find and make all of the materials.
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>>166324939
Yoooo wtf I had the dvd of that show.

It was the dvd I watched when cable and internet was down, it made no sense and I vaguely remeet it, I wasn't even sure if it existed.
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>>166325472
Get a rhino, it's good because its newbie friendly frame, farming for it won't take long but the building process will be.
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Do I just build this Pirate cannon like the tonkor or is it viable with some other build?
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>>166325472
Eh, four days at most if you just straight grind.
Two days at most if you grind and make use of trades
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Goddamn the Glaive feels so much worse to use than the Kestrel.

They're both utter shit, but still. I actually spent time crafting the Glaive, hoping it would be better rather than hoping it wouldn't take five years to fucking return.
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should i buy frost prime if i have 250 pl and need potatoes?
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>>166325709
this doesnt make sense at all.

>>166325472
farming the parts of most frames is relatively quick, between 4 and 8 runs of the boss. non prime frames take little resources so most time will be spent waiting.
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>>166325472
Pretty much, yes, you could always spend real money to purchase plat to buy them but being patient gets you them for free.

Usually you go through Planets, collect the materials, build the Chest, Systems, and Head blueprints and then once you've made all three you put them all together to form the Warframe and that in itself takes about 2 Days and a half.

The three pieces I think take 7 hours to build but you can make as many of those as you want and can build multiple things at the same time.

Join a Clan and ask if anyone would like to help you farm mats, especially with a Hydroid and it's Looting Mod for it.

To top it off, Clan Memebers usually have parts of Warframes and Weapons in their inventory they don't need and will just give them to you. Also Mods and if you're on PC a whole bunch of people here will ask for your IGN and just give you what you want a hard dicking.

Just don't beg
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>>166325937
I'm telling you how long it should take to make a frame. Less than a week.
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>>166325596
The anime is based off the games which now go for a small fortune with how rare they are. Emulate them and enjoy one of the most incredible Fake Online RPGs ever created, Sword Art Online and any other animes/light novels like it took their inspiration from that game franchise
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>>166325735
>hating on glaive
I'll FUCKING KILL Y

>five years to fucking return
there's a mod for that you know
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Taters in space

>>166325735
Whirlwind and/or Quick return. But it doesn't matter, all throwing weapons got fucked hard since DE doesn't want to separate the throw and charge mechanics.
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Is the best way to farm oxium just corpus survival?
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>>166326028
i know how long making a frame takes. im not >>166325472 and im at 45/45.

>>166325954
frame parts are NOT TRADEABLE.

NON PRIME FRAMES ARENT HARD TO GET. HE MOST LIKELY HAS ALL THE RESOURCES BUT NANOSPORES ALREADY.
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>>166325828
no he just has 20 more shields than normal frost
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>>166326314
Wait, I haven't been playing for awhile, you can't trade parts anymore? I remember someone helping me by giving me a few, I thought the only ones not tradeable was Ivara and Quest Frames?
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>teleport behind u
>kill you in 1-2 hits
What kind of gear do you need to beat stalker
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>>166326429
only prime parts are tradeable. we arent talking about primes.

>>166326432
literally just any.
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>>166326314
thats so stupid, I would be swimming in platpucci if nidus was tradeable until the market inflates
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>>166326432
go beat second dream
shadow stalker is a joke compared to stalker 2.0
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>>166326591
even equinox sets would be nice as most people shy away from even the slightest challenge.
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>>166325295
>You will never get to remove Trinity's skirt

>>166326432
>Stalker Classic
Anything but starter gear
>Shadow Stalker
Literally anything
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>>166325704

Build for crits, status, or a hybrid of the two.
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>>166326695
This
Stalker could hit you before you had to be FAST to not die, new stalker has all his attacks avoided by a light jog with a bullet jump every now and then.
>>
Best level 30+ node for solo Interception w/ Hobbled?
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>>166327103
If they give Shadow Stalker his bow back he'd probably be a bit worse. Right now all he has is his laser grenade and that energy wave.
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>>166327103
>new stalker has all his attacks avoided by a light jog with a bullet jump every now and then
this is DE's idea of fun and engaging gameplay
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>>166326115

I do actually like the Glaive. It just doesn't have the same oomph as the Kestrel does.
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>>166327264
People complained about his complete lack of telegraphing before second meme but DE went too far with it for his new loadout.
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>>166318284
the big difference is that gottcalc tries to "simulate" for things like crits and status and uses actual combined hp/armor/shield interactions, while wfbuilder just calculates averages against a single hp or armor or shield type and ignores status entirely

sustained DPS and burst DPS as reported by wfbuilder are not great metrics for comparison, especially when they ignore combined enemy types (cloned flesh with ferrite vs flesh with ferrite and shield), but you can sort of build a list of effective range and average on time to kill for a selection of targets and then compare those between different weapons and builds

truthfully, I'd like to see something that takes a different approach and does overall calculations rather than simulations (and supplies min, max, and average results from combinations of each of the involved steps using RNG, specifically multishot status and crit, as well as the total) with a more complex and comprehensive set of formulas, and then builds an index vs a chosen array of targets or all possible combinations of target "surface" types, and then use that resulting range of DPS/TTK for comparison as well as considerations like enemy level or condition ranges for being able to oneshot... plus automatically generate and "seek" for various input parameters all possible builds on a weapon/frame for comparison... but that would require a fair amount of work and using somewhat more convoluted and very disparate methods from either of the other tools, and I don't think it would honestly even get used all that much

tl;dr use gottcalc, wfbuilder's only benefit is ease of use for drag and drop build comparison
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>>166321115
MR just has influence on the maximum possible range of rolls, you'll likely very often find lower MR mods that get rolled to be stronger than higher
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>>166327889
wfbuilder is simpler no doubt but it generally provides an accurate-enough substitute as long as you know how to read the numbers

it also does damage types, despite what you think

gottfaust's calculator is just so outdated, missing so many weapons and mods, no rivens, etc.
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>>166327684
you need sinister reach
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>>166328253
Already have it, just not equipped.
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>>166327264
>braton vandal
>lato vandal
>hitscan on an enemy who can actually aim
he was tough for the average player before
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>>166324939
>.hack
mah nigga - I adore that series, especially the gate/keyword system and flick reapers with their giant scythes

>>166328185
>it also does damage types
I didn't say it didn't; what it doesn't do is account for combined types, because enemies with armor won't take the face value of simply multiplying the total apparent damage/DPS by the associated damage type multipliers (they will take a mitigated amount based on the amount of armor it has, wherein its multipliers sort of "double dip" by modifying the armor value itself, then modified based on the armor AND hp type mults), plus you have to account for shields as a separate bar to be depleted on enemies that have them

gottcalc is old, unmaintained, and not fast or simple to use, so it's not ideal for a lot of use case scenarios... but it's a far better tool for making comparisons with any accuracy
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>>166329353
your mother in my dick
we already have all those shitty warframes
fucking cancer cooking poster
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>>166329636
Are the neuroptics the last part you need or something?
>>
>>166328981
I only remeber bits of this movie or show, there was that one scene with the windmill and another at some mind of festival then a monster in the lake shows up, it was the kind of moviemto watch when high.
>>
link health/armor/shields for sentinels when
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>>166329636
Good luck farming that Nidus
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>>166328081
Wheres the proof tho? Cause that aint the case in the image

I havent seen anything that supports this claim
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>>166329353
>>>/wsg/1507707

>>166330212
>Cause that aint the case in the image
you misunderstand, a higher maximum range DOESN'T mean it will automatically be higher, you would need to collect and reroll many possible values on an identical set of stats between at least two different MR mods for the same weapon to demonstrate the effect - it's just that you COULD get a higher potential roll on the one with higher MR

but check out voidglitch's repo or dig around some of the scripts if you can find them
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>go to double-check Specter details
>wiki is fucking borked
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I know Oberons abilities need some work, but what about his stats? Like health and shield and running speed n' stuff.
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?
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>>166330998
That's honestly not much important.
His shit's fine. Armor could always be higher.

The abilities are all underwhelming and outclassed. His 1's the only thing he has going for him, it pretty much insta melts nullifier bubbles if you use it on a target near the bubble.
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>>166330182
>>166329807
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>>166331368
>windowed mode
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>>166331273
prisma gorgon is only good with like 6 forma and a godly riven
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>>166331368
I can download pictures too
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>>166331273
I don't suggest heavy caliber on the gorgon, shred would be a good idea though for the punchthrough if you can manage the RoF
Hammer shot and maybe crash course could be swapped out for 60/90% elemental damage mods, but you do have that extra space still
an unranked ammo mutation might be helpful in the meantime
I think my riven gorgon has something like 6 forma plugged in by the end of it
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>tfw you fell for the war meme
>tfw you realized broken war is actually better
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>>166314372
Did you just say Akstilleto Prime are mediocre secondaries? What the fuck?>>166328185
You can manually input new weapons and Rivens into both calculators.
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>>166332127
>tfw you have both
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>>166332127
War looks really cool, and having ornamental melee weapons (Destreza comes to mind) isn't too crazy.
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>>166332127
it swings pretty fast, is it actually better?
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>>166332127
>impact melee weapon
>better than slash melee
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>>166332127
War looks cooler and used to be top DPS for heavy swords.

Scindo Prime buffs when???
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Just put together this Chroma Build.

And I know
>Vigor
But I get more health, and the 400 shields I need to max by armor buff.
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>>166332560
>Only 170 str
What the fuck are you doing
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>>166332298
For some reason every newshitter has it. Reddit must hail it as a 2nd brakk or some shit. I'm just saying the average shit a new player would have and call tonkor-tier for them
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>>166332705
The best I can? Suggestions?
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>>166332869
Switch TF for energy conversion
Switch SF for BR
Switch Vigor for Intensify
Since you're already running PFlow you might as well swap constitution for QT but that's up to you.
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>>166300184

I made the thing, daddy.
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>>166332560

Remove Primed Flow and use that slot for a maxed Blind Rage. I hope you haven't applied those Forma yet.

I'd also remove Vigor in favour of Intensify.
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>>166332560
drop vitality for QT
drop vigor for blind rage
drop constitution for intensify

Cold chroma is all about power strength, if you dont have maxed zenurik then stock up on energy restores and keep constitution
get furis and the augment or sancti tigris for self healing
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That space jew Baro better bring one of the lightning mods next time.
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>>166333553
Primed continuity never
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>>166333553
>he doesn't know he can get all but the shotgun one from hive sabotage caches
>people still pay over 50p for each
I still do not get it
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>>166333517
>drop vitality and vigor and use QT on chroma
he literally (literally) benefits from losing health and shields, are you fucking retarded
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>>166333367
I always make sure the build is sound before I start Forma'ing.
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>>166333641
>sabotage caches
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>>166332332
Destreza should scale really well for single targets because of the slash procs and Relentless Combination but dual swords with decent status chance just seem to do it better.

do slide attacks give slash procs? Or just stance attacks
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>>166332843
It has like 30k paper dps with Primed crit mods and like 90% status chance, excellent accuracy handling and reload.

You really picked the wrong weapon to be a noob trap, because it can even support noobs in "post DEAC"
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>>166333653
Dropping vitality for QT is retarded but QT is good and vigor is very marginal. The only thing vigor does is let you max out your armor buff all in one go, but that means it takes longer to get your damage buff up.
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>>166334104
>takes longer to get your damage buff up.
Anon that posted the build here, in nightmare maps, sorties, and raids, won't this be down to fractions of a second?
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>>166333653
you do realize that the energy damage from QT counts as direct HP damage thus boosts your dmg right
and if you're not using a sentinel with guardian and/or shield charger then chroma isnt for you

Whom am I kidding /wfg/ is infested with DEAC shitters like t*erqueer
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>>166334232
You could say the same about getting the armor buff up by having slightly more shield. All you have to do is let 100 shield recharge to max it out which really isn't that hard.
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>>166334347
The energy damage from QT also makes you fucking useless due to the stagger so you can't make use of your boosts regardless
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>>166334530
>1 single stagger only the moment you hit 2 hp and never again unless you heal
>getting staggered so much that you actually die to it
You must be either retarded or... no you are retarded
Cold chroma is too intelligent for you, maybe something braindead like loki will better suit your needs?
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I haven't played in a year Have they added any better aura's or is Corrosive Projection/Energy Siphon still the best choice?
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spotted the legend
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>>166334776
There's a few interesting ones that boost power str but otherwise Cp is the best option. Focus schools pretty much took care of the energy problem.
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>>166334776

Stand United has some theoretical benefits especially if you can get more than one person to bring it.

EMP Aura could be useful on high-level Corpus stuff but again you'd need more than one person using it.
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>>166334736
>unless you heal
Sentinels, life support, weapon procs and potentially allies causing fuckups versus not digging into your energy pool for no real good reason to begin with
I swear zenurik existing has filled people with so many disgustingly awful ideas, worse than people who spent 50% of their time building energy plates before it
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>>166333781
Destreza is the highest single target damage melee weapon.
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>>166335585
Is it because of the stance?
I assume we're excluding covert lethality daggers
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>find someone who looks like me
>stand next to them for 20 minutes
>people stop and stare

Was it one of you fucks?
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>>166335406
How the fuck do you die to stagger as cold chroma when you take 2-4 dmg at best and you have over 700 energy with maxed primed flow giving you basically 1400 bonus hp? No seriously explain to me.
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>>166335740
Yes, hidden flourish does high damage with many strikes and forced flash proc and has 2 finisher opportunities at the end.
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>>166325683
I was actually looking at the Ivara frame. I got the blueprint for the Systems component on the first Spy mission I did so I thought it would be easy to make but then I realized I need 2 other blueprints and nitain extracts seem very tedious to get.
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>It's another "Kuva Siphon spawns in the smallest room on the map on Ceres and you have less than five seconds to locate the incoming cloud and snag it before its absorbed" episode
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>>166335758
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>>166335774
There are any number of things that could go wrong because of DE's hatred of energy and energy usage
Nullifiers spawning from a fissure behind you, corpus rollerskates turning your shit off, energy leeches, nonsense like that
unless you're only playing against what, infested and grineer? Disruptors can do nasty shit too
Why bother pulling on your 700 energy instead of 700+HP solely to feel like you're on the cutting edge
it would even free a slot or two in your build by dropping QT and flow
Suit yourself but I'm not scraping you off the floor
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>>166336267
saved
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>>166336050
>it's another episode of the siphon spawns in some fuckall corner of the map not in direct line with the objective or extract

At least ceres keeps it fairly consistent. The next Grineer planet tileset in rotation in the desert is so shit
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>>166332560
Updated Chroma build, effectively traded 120 shields for 129% power.
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>>166336981
>eris siphon
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>>166337363
FUCK
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>>166337504
I like infested and corpus siphons because of the 'free cc'
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>>166337363
>>166337528
i run with arcane barrier, usually procs to get that last little bit
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>>166337528
you can use energy conversion instead of transient fortitude so you keep your duration up, can be iffy at times though
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>>166336302
Except youre not on the brink of death on 2hp. Even vs lvl 70 enemies you have a shitload of armor and resistance thanks to QT to survive until you can armor up again
Not using QT is just pure stupidity
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>>166337564
Eris tilesets are complete dogshit, There's not 1 open room in the whole map, you basically have to 4 people in the rooms next to the siphon to have any chance of stopping the clouds.
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>>166337504
>first time in kuva in eris i wasn't sure what to do
>look in the wiki
>you gotta destroy the kuva clouds with the starchild
>the clouds can be recognized by their black and red appareance
NIGGA THE ENTIRE TILESET IS BLACK AND RED
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>>166337895
>even vs lvl 70 enemies
Aiming high, not even sortie max lvl. Fact is if something, anything happens to your energy you're 100% out of resources and dead in the water
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>Log in bonus is one of those bullshit 3 choices
>A neurode, A neurode, and 2x mutagen samples
>2x samples
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>>166338394
good, build the hema
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>>166338394
RAINING SAMPLES
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>>166338116
What frame ISNT dead to nullifaggot bubbles/magnetic procs and they get staggered or knocked down?
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>>166338549
Inaros, Nidus
Atlas because he can't be knocked down :^)
I'm sure there are more besides the obvious
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>pubbing sorties
>get to anal spy
>confidently call and run to vault C
>promptly get hit by moving energy barriers I swear they went out of sync on my client, but still no excuse and fall into water
>swim around like a retard trying to line up with submersible entrance to central vault room
>start hack with 5s remaining
>finish
>hacking interface fades out as timer hits 0
>failed
>deepest humiliation
I don't think there's any lesson to be learned here other than don't be a shitter, and don't pub spies
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>>166337704
Huh, cool tip.

>>166337632
Dude I'm so far from starting getting arcanes. I haven't even got access to a raid yet.
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>>166338687
Wrong, nidus loses all his stacks when he gets inside a bubble and I'm sure inaros just staright up dies inside it as well
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would DE be dumb enough to add melee rivens?
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>>166338948
Wrong. Nidus loses his stacks slowly when he enters a nullifier bubble. He has enough time to kill the fagola before his stacks are drained.

>>166338961
Yes
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>>166338948
The stacks decay as a function of time inside the nullibubble , they don't straight up dissapear.
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>>166338948
Last I checked Nidus' stacks just tick down, they don't all drop
Unless they nerfed him again
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Finally reached the end of Steel Median grindish. What should I get with my level up freebie?
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>>166338961
Confirmed last devstream
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>>166339210
Syandana
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>>166339210
What are your options?
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>>166339210
Vay Hek?

Duh.
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>>166339406
>syndicate weapons
>freebies
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>>166338961
I can see it now:
+damage
+reach
+crit

Melee rivens will be disgusting
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>>166339515
bogged down by stats like
>+channeling efficiency
>+wall attack
>+aerial attack
>+finisher damage
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>>166339370
Can't

>>166339382
New chest tattoo, augs for atlas, ember, excal, frost, mesa, nezha, nova, lolgoatboy, rhino, and fartframe, also an arcane thing. I only have frost and rhino out of that list.
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>>166339515
you can't even do anything fancy like 100% status shotguns on melee rivens, it'll all be just generic damage because channeling, etc. is useless
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>>166339692
>dagger riven
>+finisher damage
>+channeling efficiency
>-range
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>>166339709
Arcane distiller is the most expensive, but unless you're juggling them regularly I wouldn't bother until later. Get the sigil for faster rep grind for any other rewards.
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>Doing spy mission on crashed corpus ship tileset
>All the spy rooms function perfectly

My sense of immersion is ruined.
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>>166339729
If you check void's datamines for Rivens, you can see De is throwing around the idea of bloodrush-like bonuses on them. of course it's not set in stone - there are files for "chance to explode" on secondary Rivens.
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>>166340042
Sometimes the snow from other tiles will clip into the vault and block progress/trap you
does that help?
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>>166339854
Hopefully they didn't pre-fix the code for -100% range Rivens that inevitably roll over and give infinite melee range.
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>>166340258
>infinite melee range
melee weapons finally become usable
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>>166340258
>-100 range secura lecta mod that allows you to sweep the whole map
I can't wait.
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>>166339515
+300% reach with primed reach on a high disposition melee weapon
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>tfw still haven't gotten any niatin from caches
>tfw no niatin alert
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>>166340673
You just missed a nitain alert.
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Would Lightning Chroma need Steel Fiber? Or anything better? Currently has Steel Fiber and Armored Agility.
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Is frost's new avalanche augment any good? It seems nice but I'm not sure I understand how it works exactly
Each stack on the UI absorbs 60 damage, stacks are modified by power strength? And no knockdown or status procs so long as it's up
Would a max range build be worthwhile to maximize its usefulness?
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>>166340741
Not on xbone.
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>>166340843
shields dont benefit from armor damage reduction
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>>166340741
new nitain alert fucking when, I am one away from finishing up Ivara's bits
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Is the first Archwing mission bugged for anyone else?
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>5% crit
oh boy, I had actually forgotten entirely about this shitty mirage set piece
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>spy sortie
>sealab map

why

this map is such a clusterfuck
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About to start this game for the first time.
From the FAQ it seems like a lot of this game is just praying for drops then waiting a long ass time for shit to build. What is the eventual goal of farming to farm? Are you hitting a max level? Making money for more builds? Are there some kind of big PVE or PVP scenes?
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>>166340994
if it's not in the guide, it's a shit augment
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>>166341678
>cheesing it as ivara
>the one room with the laser floor still trips the alarm if you pass through it with infiltrate

fucking stupid
DE pls
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>>166341678
Also the only spyset that I haven't found a surefire way to not be seen at all. There's one data vault that you can stealth all the way into and then you have to pop outta the water and hope to god that nobody's looking your way.
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>>166341865
which one? I'm still getting used to them and somewhat regularly tripping the underwater barriers even when solo or getting sleeked on in multiplayer, but I've found you can stealth them all entirely without invis or anything, it's just more tedious
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>>166341785
Speaking of Infiltrate, do the grineer barriers count as lasers that you can pass through safely?
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>>166342005
The only thing that seems to sometimes not work is the barriers next to the console in the grineer vault where you have to hack a couple other consoles to disable the laser barriers first.
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>>166341498
If you can't extract at the end you have to solo it basically, unless something else is bugged.
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>>166341983
There's one with a couples of ways in: through the ceiling vents which means dodging lasers that detect you even while stealthed which is LITERALLY impossible, through the front door which is a bunch of those lasers in a row, or underwater which pops you out right into the vault, no lasers or anything. However, the underwater one still has some risk if there's a guy looking at the hatch as you pop out. Of course, Ivara can just Infiltrate through any way she wants so it doesn't matter with her.
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>>166342330
If you hug the side of the ceiling tunnel while crouching you can get under the lasers, but if you bump into the pipe on the side you'll walk up it partially (???) and trigger the alarms
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I was really into playin the game and now I have to reinstall it again. Wanted to try new builds before, but now its even worse, I cant wait to try shit in the void to see how they work. Even had a fucking warframe in the foundry right before the game crapped out.

Is this how it feels like to people who stop playin for weeks/months when they dont feel like playing anymore, because Im already pumped up and I was really into trying the new shit i just got before. Why cant this shit download faster, crap. I want more. Just giv already, JUST FUCKING GIB; I WANT TO PLAY

How frequently do you do breaks and how long they last because I cant wait already, better than exploring earth for the first time.
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>>166342154
Damn
I'll try that now
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>>166341696
>From the FAQ it seems like a lot of this game is just praying for drops then waiting a long ass time for shit to build.
yea

>What is the eventual goal of farming to farm?
farm more and hope you're having fun

>Are you hitting a max level?
Game keeps adding new things to acquire to make you stronger

>Making money for more builds?
Eh?

>Are there some kind of big PVE or PVP scenes?
PVE is the main dish. Most here avoid the PVP, but some see it having some merits.
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>>166342108
Neat. Thanks.

>>166342450
I took a break for over 3 years.
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>Has been playing SFV instead of Warframe

Wow..is this how fun feels?
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>>166340258
For a while, a while back, the Mios' whip could bug out and have infinite range for the rest of the mission while equipped. Every time the whip was swung my fps would tank into the teens and I'd get a flood of affinity. Then DE had to go and fuck stealth into the shitter 3 times in a month. DE recently made melee weapons make noise when you miss or hit a wall, meaning some weapons are nearly impossible to stealth chain with without using finishers, because they are too long, or the animations hit the floor/wall before they hit the enemy. I think they tweeked that a little bit with this latest patch but its still bullshit to try and chain anything without using Equinox or Ivara sleep.
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>>166342645
The 2nd idea was pretty much what path of exile was, lots of grinding mostly to make money to try a bunch of new builds to play with. I'm already a little diappointed that apparently bows arent too great, and neither is melee, but hopefully whatevers left is unique enough to be fun for a few weeks until I get my tax refund
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>>166342330
that's the one I was thinking of, I'm going to go try it again (I usually just risk the water since it's fastest) but I'm pretty sure the other ways are perfectly doable even without stealth powers
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>>166341696
Farming to farm. Same as Diablo end game.
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>pub put an Axi E1 for rnandom fissure
>free ember bp
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>>166325418
So nobody is going to tell him?

TURN OFF MOTION BLUR YOU SHITTER
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>>166342783
Stealth powers don't affect any paths in that room since the lasers are the type that hit you even while stealthed. Nova is good for just wormholing through them but otherwise it's really just a matter of either doing what >>166342442 said or bullet jumping across but I've literally never seen anyone pull that off. The underwater way is easy and safe since even if you do get seen you can just kill the guys, but odds are one will hit the alarm before you get em. Still plenty of time to steal the data but makes a perfect run entirely down to RNG which is lame.
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>>166343010
>tfw never get this lucky
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>>166342714
>not playing 3rd strike for fun and skill
you do you mate, but you are really missing out on quality if you dont at least try 3rd strike.
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>>166342714
>SFV
>fun
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>>166300184
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>>166343010
this literally happened to me last night. ez 400 plat
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Hey so I'm new and I got to Mars and the Phobos junction says I need to scan things so I've been looking it up and I can't find out what to do/how to get scanners. They're not on the market, that's the only way to get them it says on wiki.

Pls help, will ERP for help.
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>potato is around the same height as Rhino
Why is he such a framelet?
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>>166343720
They are on the market, you donut.

>>166343798
He's like a dorf.
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conclave is the laggiest shitfest ive ever played

why is this even in the game
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>>166343720
in your armory, go to gear
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>>166342714
>SFV
>fun
So this is delusion in the form of text.
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>>166344150

So nerds have another thing to whine about DE and feel better about themselves.
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>>166342714
Street Fighter was never fun.
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>>166344150
Why did you even click on it?
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>>166342714
>worse street fighter to ever come out
>fun
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>>166341469
Same. Two away from last Saryn prime piece
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Blaze or Ammo Stock on Hek?

>extra fire rate and heat damage
or
>2 extra shots because 4 mag is hurtin
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archwing is such cancer oh my god this shit better count towards ranking up my mastery
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Just popped a Boltor Riven. Starting stats are mediocre (~70/70/70 Punc/Crit Dam/Elec). Worth rerolling a few times before selling or should I just put it on the market as a virgin Boltor mod and see what happens?
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Well boys and girls, it finally happened. I decided to bite the bullet and Bootcamp my families Mac to play Warframes. The bad news the Mac will only tolerate Windows 8.1 so I have no idea how well this is going to run.
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>>166344918
Never waste a slot on mag size. Use Chilling Reload and Seeking Fury if you need to.
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>>166344918

Blaze is raw damage + heat damage, almost always the better choice. Also, make sure you don't max Ammo Stock if you ever do use it, you get max benefit for Hek at rank 3.
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>>166345087
try to get windows 10 on it
well worth it
t. using a bookcamped for 6 years with no problems and any problem I did have was swiftly fixed by apple's bootcamp software updates
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>>166343158
>but I've literally never seen anyone pull that off
this part? this is what I was all butt-flustered about failing in a pub earlier because I could have sworn I had the timing perfect and I still got hit, but it's the path I always take (and sometimes I find it easier to just slide under them but that requires controlling your momentum when land pretty well)
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>98,634/99,000 standing to rank up
>out of daily standing and done all the missions
>cant turn in another mark to complete it
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>>166345320
Oh hey nice anon. First time I've ever seen anyone manage that without getting clipped. Warbros #1 yet again.
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>>166345320
you can teleport to anything with health so that also means canisters and grates
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>>166345308
I'm going to try and do that soon, for the time being this is more a test then anything else.
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>>166345320
Can Ivara walk through those?
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>>166345774
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>>166345464
I know - this, decoy/ST, wormhole, etc all trivialize the challenge
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>>166344150

Console shitters demanded muh PvP until DE caved. Before that it was just Dojo shit that DE clearly wasn't going to develop.
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>>166342762
Fast-paced third person parkour shooter that's pretty alright. Melee can actually be pretty good, but it takes work to get there. Just play with the game and it's mechanics and see what's good for you though.
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>>166345320
>sworn I had the timing perfect and I still got hit

Unless you were hosting you probably did have the timing right. Clients and Hosts aren't synced when it comes to any laser grids but the game defers to the host for grid hit detection; so you can see the lasers in one position when they're "actually" somewhere else according to the host.
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>>166345850
Consoles had nothing to do with it. DE did it all on their own because they thought they thought they could make a profit on it and could care less about promises made to players.
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Can someone fucking explain synthesis to me? I get the finding the target and scanning them part, but I need to find commanders. I've checked every single grineer exterminate/capture and I've yet to see Simaris say there's a target in the mission. Is there something I need to do to get them to spawn?
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>>166345320
Fuck this spy vault.

Either path requires some bullshit. I always go the long vent way.
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>>166342762
and yeah
>lots of grinding mostly to make money to try a bunch of new builds to play with
grind stuff and then you can trade it to other players for the otherwise money only currency. Ask chat what to do for that when the time comes.
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>>166345987
mostly luck and looking in the right places. some enemies dont spawn after a certain level so you will have to read the wiki on spawn locations.
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>>166345774
Nope. Tried.

Quick question: Who're you?
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r8
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>>166345987
Some enemy types don't spawn on lower leveled missions. Some times you need the void versions, etc.

Best thing to do is start an exterminate, if you don't get the message at the start, just abort. Then just do the mission normally. You'll likely encounter them during the mission. If you don't then you can at least search for them unbothered by enemies at the end.
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teach me how to Nekros /wfg/
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>>166345895
I see this behavior all the fucking time, shit like reloading and holstering weapons or door opening that has disparate behavior for the client yet subjects the client to the host's perspective and it's fucking infuriating - like if the lasers are displayed a certain way clientside, why isn't the hit detection done there? etc
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Is Warframe p2w? Please help.
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>>166346396
sure why not. now go away.
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>>166346347
Press 3 while your teammates kill things. Get that one augment for your 4 and tank to the extreme.

>>166346396
No, but it is pay to have slots for your fucking stuff.
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is there anything in warframe that scares you?
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>>166345986

Consoles literally had everything to do with it. If you were around on the official forums when it launched on consoles you'd have noticed the way you literally couldn't turn around without tripping over a thread with a (PS4) or (XB1) username asking where PvP was and why DE weren't developing that side of the game.
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>>166346198
I'm surprised I got able to guess them all
bretty good
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>>166346448
No need to bully, friend.

>>166346453
Thank you.
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>>166346396
No, because it's pve
it's pay to not grind, and while not grinding is a win in general it's not a win in the context of the game because then you have nothing to do
also you can convert grinding into things people would have to pay real money for anyway
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>>166346347
Tank.

>>166346396
Yes. You have to pay for slots and the like, and you can pay for boosters as well.
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>>166346461
That DE can make money off of this travesty
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>>166346347
play a different character
thats the best way to play nekros

>>166346396
it pretty much is. run.
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>>166346347
do the thing
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Is the once a day rule for mastery tests a way for DE to pad playtime?
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>>166346396
It's pay 2 not grind
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So what do you do for the Riven challenge where you have to synth a Simaris target without traps, powers, no damage, etc? Exterminate and clear out everyone else?
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>>166346697
That only really applies for the early mastery ranks, so maybe?
It makes new players play a bit longer potentially
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>>166346528
Nah, there's plenty reason to bully faggots who can't form their own conclusions, especially ones as easy as that.
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>>166346697
>Is [something in warframe] a way for DE to pad playtime?
what do you think? :^)
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>Can't even get the rest of Ivara's blueprints until at least Lv 27
Are there any frames that a new player can try to get that would be good for stealth and range?
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DUDE HOST MIGRATION LMAO
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>>166346396

No, but it's definitely pay to not spend shitloads of time sitting around grinding/waiting/doing nothing fun.
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>>166346461
When I think there was a message from syndicater or stalker but fucking nothing happens and even when I could kill them easily with the weapon I have that still scare the shit out of me for some reason because it keeps me waiting. Did not happen often, but when it did it make me feel really good, gave me funny feelings and I was a little bit scared. The rest is just annoying shit that I want to get out of me as fast as possible really, no real challenge, just annoyances, they dont make me get that "OH, SHIT" feel like other shit can, really.
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>>166345320
hey nice, that shit is actually hard to do without switch tp
luckily once you trigger the alarms by fucking it up it's pretty fast into the actual vault
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>>166346818
Don't worry. I got help from others :^)
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>>166346941
Those actually do a pretty decent amount of damage, I died as loki while trying to get to the vault and clipping one by accident
The downed timer cuts away a pretty good amount of remaining time if you're not solo
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>>166346863
Loki, especially since he's a starter frame :^) In all honesty, you might need to grind him since he's the other frame for doing spy missions. Ash has invis as well, but he's locked behind manics which is absolutely awful.

>>166346871
That caused an irl friend to quit playing with me last night. Too bad DE is complacent to never fix stuff.
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>>166346461
>solo survival on a grineer tileset
>hear a maniac spawn

That laughing is kinda creepy.

Pushed his shit through his face hole with my Tigris tho
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>>166346461
sawmen

sawmen were removed because they were too scary
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>>166346461
Stalker.

I run Mesa a lot lately and she''s so squishy that if I fuck up I die and lose my chance at Hate.
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>>166347547
Unload on him while he's teleporting in. It's pretty hilarious.
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>>166346461
Whenever a "rework" happens.
Or Archwing is mentioned.
Or DE updates anything.
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>>166347547
are you the newfag that bought mesa with plat
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do stances for single swords exist? I have stances for fists, polearms, dual swords, dual daggers, scythes, and machetes, but no swords. I would've expected them to be relatively common since that's what's available early on but I've yet to see any
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>>166348013
There are 3 and they are all rare drops. Iron Phoenix is the most common of the 3, and also arguably the worst.
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>>166347836
I'm A newfag that bought mesa with plat. I've only been playing for a yearish.
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Anyone interested in Mag prime blueprints, chassis and neuroptics?
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>>166348481
I'll take them off your hands.... Seriously though, want some Frost Prime parts? I have everything but BP.
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yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
haaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
love you guys
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>playing endless survival
>get to 20 minutes
>single dude decides to split while me and another guy put in relics
>WPs the extraction and keeps running in and out of it
>type "if you want to leave so bad hit escape and then abort"
>he says "don't be a douchebag, kid"
>"im not the douchebag leaving so soon, sorry I don't have a bedtime kid"
>"if you stay I promise not to tell mommy that youre up past your bedtime"
>"he just says 'some of us have lives after this you know"
>some other faggot chimes in and says "ignored him xD"
>mfw

why is every single person on earth a fucking pussy now adays
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Dear fucking god why. Mastery is the dumbest shit ever. Why not a classic xp system? Some weapons are clearly ass so should we waste time, credits, and resources leveling these shitty things?

t. salty MR 11 that really wants to use their tigris prime
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>>166348101
Except IP is the least autistic stance and benefits speedy melee builds the most because you can run around full speed while spamming any attack. All those multipliers don't count if you don't hit things.
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>>166321115
Another one somebody posted on plebbit

This is stupid
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>>166348715
I went from MR11 to MR13 in a matter of ~3 days, you can do it champ
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>>166348794
Thats a fair point.

I really only like Crimson Dervish because of the forced finsher proc. I have Vengeful Revenant and use that one the most.
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>>166348593
I'm not looking for Frost Prime, I will take Vauban prime neuroptics and systems. If not, plat is fine.
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>>166348917
I don't want to waste resources doing it, I have also done enough akkad to make my eyes bleed
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>>166348714
What happen to "hey man I really gotta go now and we are already 20 min can we extract?"
It's just simple communication.
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What are the current endgame weapons? Haven't played in a while.
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>>166349242
vaykor hek
tigris prime or sancti
tonkor still
synoid simulor
dex sybaris
somap
lexp
akstilettop
telos boltace
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>>166349242
Literally anything now with rivens.
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>Potato energy regen isn't working.

Great.
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>>166349436
>try to do kuva mission
>shoot cords
>no power
this upsets me
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>>166348987
I have pretty much given up on standard swords because even though I'm okay with Iron Phoenix, the performance of other alternative sword types and stances will quickly outpace B.War's damage. Destreza is now my go-to sortie sidearm since VP has an easy forced finisher combo as well. VR is way too expensive in plat for my blood at the moment.

Still waiting for a proper longpoint or plough stance. Why do Nikanas get a two-handed (though still autistically flailing) stance while regular swords don't? Why do we have to spin so much in so many combos? Where is the no-nonsense sword stance that has decent multipliers and consistent tempo for dealing with many enemies in front?
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can i get an all-arounder loki build that isn't prime, /wfg/?
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Trade chat:

>98% selling stuff
>2% wanting to buy stuff
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>>166349242
Tigris Prime w/100% status build
Ak Stilletto Prime (build for dual status w/viral and heat)
Galatine Prime/Redeemer (heal sticks)
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>>166349593
>loki build that isn't prime
What? You build both the same way.

1) Range, Eff, Irradiating Disarm for his 4
2) Eff, Dur for his stealth
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>>166349696
sorry i thought primed warframes had more space, my apologies :(
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>>166349586
Yeah, I got lucky and got my VR from conclave weekly. VR isnt terrible for actual viability, but yeah there are much better alternatives.

I would love a 2 handed AND a reverse grip sword stance. I actually recently rediscovered how good the Destreza is. Its melt machine when built right.
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>>166349075
The whole conversation sounds cringgy as fucking shit really. Who the fuck would say shit like being a pussy in a game so cheap you can basically make it play itself. Cringgy af, calling eachother kids and everything, but at some point you need to realize how pubs works and dont join endless where you cant extract whenever you want or atleast ask first for how long they want to stay so you can atleast abort as soon as possible and do something else if you are not willing to stay for as long other want to stay. Fucking basic communication. Ive seen some cringgy shit in this game already, but you if you jump into pubs like that and behave like that too you have no one to blame but yourself at that point if you already know how DE's matchmaking fucking sucks. You can even lose good loot from salty hosts leaving, dont fucking blindly jump into endless just like that, its pubbing spy sorties level of retarded.
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>>166349731
They just have more slots pre-forma'd. That's something you can do yourself. There are a few differences with prime, but nothing that will effect the type of build you would make for either.
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>>166349854
oh i didn't realize that, thanks for the help my friend!
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>>166300184
Did it cause why the fuck not, tell me how shit my taste is /wfg/
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>>166350115
it could be much worse
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>>166350115
girl/10
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Oh man, I didn't realize I was so far behind on my PC Account.

Time to grind Relic blueprints to sell for Plat to get slots.
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>want a sybaris riven
>see a decent one in chat
>message the guy, hes MR9
>wants 1.2k plat for it

I really don't understand

A. how can someone be so lucky
B. are all sybaris rivens that expensive
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>>166350115
>vay hek
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>>166348714
>playing endless survival
>get to 20 minutes
>idiots keep going down and wasting Life Support Pods
>go to extraction
>they refuse to come to extraction
>force extraction anyway
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>>166349505
wait, what?
Does shooting the siphon/braids do something, as I've had no idea where that static debuff came from
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>>166350163
> Girl/10
Why anon, why such a ranking for my list?
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>>166350329
Transference static is because your potato got her(male) shit pushed in and 'died'
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What's the OPed Kubrow everyone talks about? Apparently it can red crit or at least do 20k dmg on 100 Ancients or something? (Anons might have been embellishing quite a bit to be frank)
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>>166350451
No one uses Dogs anymore. It's Carrier Prime or Kat only.
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>kubrows
>ever OP
Huras is nice for invis and that's it
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Which one of these should I try to pump forma into so they can be good?

>boltor
>tigris
>dread
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>16(sixteen) radiant relics not a single rare chasiss and only 3 uncommons
>got the bp on my second radiant
>carrier prime cerebum when I just farming traces
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>>166350427
only girls like zephyr
seriously, that's the reason
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>>166346771

You sell it veiled for 40p. You can't take *any* damage at any point in the mission, not just from the synth target or while scanning. It's fucking awful.
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>>166350619
Tigris if it is the Prime or Syndicate version. Otherwise the Dread.
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>offer dude deal of a lifetime
>pretend to dc
>he's still sending me messages 2 hours later
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>>166350656

Zephyr is the best and most fun frame in the game, and I have big hairy balls. Am I grill?
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>>166350964
big hairy balls are feminine, as are large, veiny dicks

so probably
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>>166350910
Screw it why not, one last question for the general. Fartbow is it good? I got it to rank 30 but I'm still not sure if it is worthwhile
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What would everyone recommend be the first Syndicate to gain Reputation for?
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>>166350910
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>>166351034

Ah, but what about cute feminine penises?
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>>166350656
But anon, I just want to fly thru the sky and screech like a spastic bird!
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>>166351238
gross, I bet you kiss boys
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who would win
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>>166351124
The corpus looking one for the credit whip or which ever has an augment you want
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>>166350932
Try this: offer to sell maiming strike for cheap then show it to him in trading post and pretend to dc.

You have no idea what kind of beast you just unleashed.
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>>166351323

Only when I think they're girls.
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>>166346771
Just do a spy mission so there's no reason to take damage.
The "no abilities" part only applies while near the synth target.
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>>166350262

Rivens have fucked the market up beyond belief.

Shit Rivens for bad weapons are going for 350+, God help you if you want a good Riven for a good weapon.

And Melee Rivens will only make it worse.
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>doing radiant relic run and some guy tries to sneak in with an intact relic
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>>166351371
WarffarW would.

Melee a shit
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>>166351381
After a few messages say you disconnected because he was a hacker and was trying to scam you out of the plat.
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>>166351382
cute feminine penises are only on boys
enormous, bulging trouser snakes are only on girls
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>>166351467
I've thought about doing this with pugs, how easy is it to get away with?
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>>166351543
yeah but dude dualwield lmao
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>>166351584

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWnH-yb6-o

This is now stuck in your head.
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>>166349628
What does prime shit go for these days anyway.
I can't imagine much considering you can basically get anything now.
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>>166338948
>Inaros having problems with nullifiers
just eat a body and keep going
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>>166344402
>>worse street fighter to ever come out
That's alpha 2 though.
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>>166351802
jokes on you it's been stuck in my head for more than twenty years
>>
>nidus systems
>mod
>mod
>mods
>>mods
>MODS
>endo
>nidus systems
>nidus systems
>mods
>more mods
>mods?
>mods
>nidus neuroptics
>MOOOOOOODSS
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>>166352167
It's not even good mods, either. Just fucking bronze mods you get from the first fucking planet. DE needs to fix the rewards.
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>>166342714
Jesus Christ. SF4 is pretty shitty but after SFV it feels amazing.
Comatose Fighter 5
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>>166352040
Alpha 2 is way better than the 3D fighters.
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>>166352167
I'm so glad it only took me a day to do. Fuck infested salvage. Fuck that vertical map.
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>4 Nidus defense
>at like 80 stacks we go afk and play Poker
why are you playing an inferior warframe?
>>
How do you meme with Orvius?
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>>166351371
It's funny that Ember has her phoenix helmet instead of the default on all of the prom shots.
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>>166352558
fuck the randoms more than anything
>afk
>clump up on one objective
>leave the moment they join to migrate hosts and fuck everyone over
>leave right before c rotation
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>did 3 different kuva missions
>each say there are 2-4 active squads
>each one I've been doing them by myself
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>>166352671
Nidus is easy street.
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>>166351607
kek, how creative.
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I'm ready to be bullied because of grineer autism
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>>166353449
You like punching things, I can't fault that.
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>>166352965
>join kuva mission
>they're already 3/4s of the way through
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>>166351802
jokes on you because britpop has always and will always be shit
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>>166353449
I'm ready to bully you because >Atlas
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>>166353505
she looks pretty strange compared to the comic book and regular book
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>>166353564
I just find him fun, not deluded enough to claim he's not shit at least
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>>166353673
I can't fault you for liking a shit frame though. I like far worse frames.
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>>166353567
havent read it yet but I want to now
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>>166353505
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Am I the only one that hasn't use a single riven? For me they are just easy plat.

>>166353567
I kind of like it. The squid girl looks weird though. I haven't seen the manga though.
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>>166353736
I would like it more without the reincarnation nonsense.
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>not playing Nidus
>not being a part of the coolest crew known to man
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>>166352940
>not soloing to make it quicker
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>>166353807
Yeah it's kind of a unnecessarily complicated way to explaining why she acts like an evil adult.
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>>166353774
>Am I the only one that hasn't use a single riven?
Uhh yeah? We can now make our favorite/fun weapons pretty gud with them now.
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>>166353505
>shitty fotm anime gif
I guess I shouldn't expect better from /wfg/
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>>166353970
not to mention it's been so endemic with nip media

there are better ways of doing it
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I have this forma'd into oblivion with all kinds of maxed crit and damage mods. Why's it doing fuck all?
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>>166354173
>stop liking what i dont like
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>>166354283
Archwing missions are fucking cancer
Kill yourself
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>>166354170
I think it is more fun to make things stupidly OP and broken with non-RNG mods.

My stupid fun weapon is the Sybaris, but I am not dropping 1k+ plat on a riven for it.
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>>166354360
>gif displays that archwing missions are awful
>archwing missions are awful and you should end your life
???
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>>166354238
Lowest base damage in the game, even with all the crit and damage mods it'll do shit damage sadly
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>>166354238
>orange hp bars
>lvl 70
>electric proc visible but not viral

Gee I sure wonder why it is doing so low damage anon. Your build is definitely FLAWLESS
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>>166354628
Is there a gun like it that's actually viable then?
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>>166354213
man I haven't watched that shit in like a decade, that really left an impression on me when I was a kid
>>
>>166354463
So you don't like the fights in Tanya? You're not making much sense. First you like the show now you don't?
>>
Stop avatarfagging TQ
>>
>>166354938
I mean amprex is perfectly viable if you perfect your build and use it on >50 enemies, but that's about it

Spray weapons tend to be pretty shit unless you're just trying to rush low level missions or throw status onto everything
>>
> Favorite dev
Yeah fucking right.
> Favorite Boss
u fkn wot m8?
This ain't fucking dark souls or whatever where bosses have personalities or are challenging or memorable in any way. Fuk off
>>
I just picked up the Reckless Combination mod. What do I do with it? Put it on a status slashing weapon?
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>>166355167
Nice crop, fuccboi
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>>166354938
<50 enemies I mean, fatfingered the keyboard
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>>166355167
>>166355238

kek
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>>166355085
I don't know what the fuck Tanya is, i'm just pointing out how it's a bit odd that both posters are poiting out archwing is bad and the other one is telling him to kill himself because of it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW93CV6m-JU
>>
Who do I message to get back into Warbros
>>
>>166355747
Higgus
>>
>>166355747
BPNPC
>>
So, it's been forever since I've done starchart shit in warframe, and now I'm helping a friend get started. We're trying to get second dream done, for obvious reasons (focus school being a needed thing for energy purposes).

Is Natah just gone now that second dream comes from a junction, or does the old way still exist? I wasn't able to find a Occulyst and noticed it came from a junction reward, but that shit is really far out of the way and is gonna take some effort for a new player to get through.
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>>166355747
>he wants to get back into /fullbros/
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>>166356117
desu i just was inactiveb
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>>166356686
>>166356686
>>166356686
>>166356686

new ded
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>>166351371
>two rhinos with fragor and a loki with what looks like some kind of broadsword
>unarmed loki, two embers with boltor primes, two excals

WARFFRAW, no contest.
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>>166352852
Because her default helm is one of the ugliest defaults in a game with mostly good looking default equipment. I don't know what they were thinking when they made it.
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>>166341785
>go as Ivara
>The vertical one with elevator also has laser barriers that trip alarms with infiltrate
>the one with all the fans and barriers
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