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Previous Thread: >>166136309

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=815

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha/Fedimian, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Cats)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (K**zenberg - Banned)
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>>166291860
>showing panties
slut cryo wants the frost pillar
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SUNOU RORINGU
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>Capyba is active again
Why he came back?
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>the maintenance isn't going to fix the vga error
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>reach inner wall district 8
>monsters start bursting me down really fast
how do I fix this?
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For those looking, cute still has a few more open spots for anyone looking for a guild. We're a friendly group that does both PvE (daily chores, leveling groups, ET) and PvP (GBL, a few TBLers) at our own pace. cute was originally founded on the idea of being a social guild, but don't confuse that for us being lazy or inactive! We dive into all content, celebrating our victories and laughing at our defeats. So whether you're a newcomer or oldfag, low level or returning, shy or chatty - if you want to be a part of our group, just send a whisper to Merigolds or Majiene and we'll be happy to give you an invite!
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>>166293406
Get better gear.
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so, tomorrow is the last day to upgrade attributes?
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>>166293762
The cutes really nice, if you don't have a guild then you should join them. Besides, they're cute!
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>>166294251
and the last day of my ban
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>>166293904
what kind of gear would make a difference? I assume getting some MDEF would help? what are some good and cheap MDEF bracelets for level 285?
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>>166294486

2x glass bracelets
2x lv 5 blue gems on boots (s.kovos if you're swordsman
didel tower shield or sage wall
mdef hats if possible
top/bot cloth if it still don't cut
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So, when will archer sailor release?
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>>166294486
Get a full revishan set, get a full grynas set, and put blue gems in your boots. Didel Tower shield, also.
That should give enough mdef to survive all ranged attacks(or party with a sage), and pole wont kill you as fast, so you can walk out of it.
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Is a personal Alch worth it?
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>>166294486
>>166294718
>>166294846
Enchanter buff 5% at Top Bottom Shield. sounds low but all that adds up
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>>166293762
I used to be ugly until I joined cute.
Now I'm cute! Can recommend, 10/10
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>>166295429

true, everyone should go for a enchanter to get a nice breast massage to feel good
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>>166293762
I used to be cute until I joined cute.
Now I'm ugly! Can't recommend, 0/10
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>>166295593
>>166295680
I used to be random until I joined fp.
Now I'm TOSG! Can recommend, 10/10
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>>166296012
Cats was a mistake. Dammit Rance+LP.
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Hey, is this "the TOSG" Cats told me about?
My name is Joe,im kinda new and all. First day at this website. Hehe took me almost a hour to post, silly interface XD, reddit and forums are so much more convenient.

But well, im here now and will try to stick around.
I'll also check out the other boards. Heard there are some nsfw pages O.O

Im soon "Rank2" and really cant wait.

See you all soon ingame, new friends.
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Haha Cats is so silly bringing normies to T O S G haha.
I love his style lol. Typical 4channer xd.
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Hey guys, my name is Brandon. I'm looking to join a guild that has knowledge in PVP/GVG and willing to teach me what I need to know to be good at it. I've played tons of MMO's and i'm looking to making this my main game. I'm 24 and I play a good amount every day. I'm only 115 right now but i've only been playing less than a week. May be low, may be new, but i'm loyal and if you offer me what i need i'll become dope. Let me know if you got anything. My username is AC195 - whisper me in game if you want too. Last person i talked to about a guild was this dumbass named Plasmagica - said I couldnt join because I put numbers in my username. I'm looking for someone who isnt 15 years old to be running the guild too, if possible. Guild doesn't have to be PVP/GVG oriented, but just needs to have people who know about it to teach me. Thanks!
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Lolipan come back, save us from Cats
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Hey you TOSGers are pretty cool! Do I put the screenname I want in the "Name" field btw?
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WTB Emengard Shield
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>>166296434
>>166296519
>>166296993
>>166296625
Welcome in our facebo..i mean TOSG Community!
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wtb emengard shield pm offer
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>>166297443
>>166297073
120mil
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>>166297073
>>166297443
Fuck off maneater
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I wonder how much alsheyra RMTed for his shield.
There's one on the market for 35mil.
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Is Cats a jewish black lesbian fatactivist transwoman trying to enrich our TOSG Community?
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Stop it!
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>>166297879
Umm... xhe identifies as a pizza, please be considerate towards xer and TOSG.
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>>166298148
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>>166298171
oh snap.. how could i missgender xhem, im so sorry and correct myself

>Is Cats a jewish black lesbian fatactivist transpizza trying to enrich our TOSG Community?
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>290 70% clear: 1/9
>240 full clear: 0/3
>Saalus: 0/6
>290 rush: 0/3

this going to be a long day
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>>166297604

post all alsheyra gear with pic, please. /memberinfo Alsheyra

you guys talks as if he was a fucking walord
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>>166298726
>290 70% 3/3
>290 rush 3/3
>Saalus 3/3
>Uphill dead leeching with guild DievMikoPD 2/2
You don't need more than this
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>>166298726
>290 70% clear
>70%
gid gud
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>>166296909
You all know where to find me.
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What Loli and Rance thinks of Cats and Neo Futureproof now?
Do they know the faglord recruit everyone from the shout?
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>>166299107
How do you feel about your guild not being /tosg/ anymore?
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>>166299182
Rance is a normie, and loli doesn't play anymore so why should they care?
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>>166299182
Niggas quit and dont care anymore. >>166299107
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>>166298845
Jace-tier hats.
Orange rod stage 7.
Emengard shield stage 4.
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>>166298963

I skip the mage room otherwise it takes too long, switching to mdef set + lots of knockbacks

>>166298890
I usualyl just do 9/9 290 rushes and 6/6 saalus but since I want to upgrade some attributes before the discount ends

>tfw no friends
I miss uphill abrasives
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>>166299439
>mage room...switching to mdef set
They dont hurt much, but ye.. takes a little.
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>>166298726
>12 290
>3 240
>only 6 Saalus
???
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>>166299430

lol, hardly a true whale

sounds just as everyone who plays 10h/day
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>>166300020
>>166298845
killyourself alsheyra
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Archer 2 > Ranger 2 > Fletcher 3 > Hackapell
Full DEX
Bad Idea?
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>>166304109
Go ranger 1 and take scout instead
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>>166304109
>ranger 2
ranger 2 is bad
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>>166304658
>Go ranger 1 and take scout instead
But you can't cloaking while riding a pet, isn't? So why go scout?
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>>166305194
Just in case. Cloaking helps a lot.
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>>166305194
the quality of life from having cloaking will make leveling easier getting to hakkapalle. Ranger 2 offers 5 more percent to your steady aim (which only one hakkapalle skill uses)
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>>166304109
>Ranger2
literally never ever do this, take Scout for Cloaking when you need it (doesnt matter if it dismounts you), or Wugushi c1 for extra DotS
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>>166304109
>>166304658
>>166304767
>>166305194
>>166305307
>>166305309
>>166305379
You guys are awesome, I never expected this kind of replies from place like 4chan, so
Archer 2 > Ranger 1 > Scout 1 > Fletcher 3 > Hackapell then
Now my question is, why Full DEX is so appreciated?
Why take high critical rate when the attack damage base is low because of no STR?
I wrote Full DEX before because I read somewhere that when your equiptment is good (2 Sissel, 5 star yellow gems, etc) your attack damage is covered so it's okay to go full DEX, is that bullshit or not?
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>>166306426
Dex and Crit are much much harder to get through equips than Attack

Your weapons will eventually have shit like 2-3k attack, so even if you put in 300 levels worth of Str into it, that only adds out to around 800 attack.
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>>166306426
You're not considering your weapon's patk (which is increase-able with anviling and transcending), which will increase with crit. You can get so much more patk from gear than you can from STR. Go DEX/CON
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>>166306426
>this kind of replies from place like 4chan
Cats, reeeee, stop inviting normies
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>>166296909
>when lolipan was here
>you faggots treat him like dirt
>he left and suddenly you realized that he was one of the pillars that is holding the tosg together
>now you need him back

this is why you cucks make the rest of us can't have nice things
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>290 70% clear: 5/9
>240 full clear: 0/3
>saalus: 2/6
>290 rush: 0/3

WAKE ME UP
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>>166307121
nice blog
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>>166307121
>playing tos
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>>166306570
>>166306689
Thank you for the explanation

>>166306847
Not at all I just thought the replies will full of
>implying
But instead, I got serious answers, that's rare and surprising, may you all blessed with nice loot from Dungeon boxes
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>>166307121
>not doing uphill
LOL
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>>166307121
Just stop doing dailies and actually enjoy the game bro..
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>>166307121
>290 70% clear
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>>166307879
> that's rare and surprising
Niggawat, I've asking shit from here since CBT1, most answers are serious m8.
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I wake up and you guys are literally falling for the absolute lowest effort trolling I've seen since I don't know when.

Healmage wake me up when you finish the templar, please.
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I have an pelta1Barb3, what should i take next? Doppel or Fencer? There is another gud build outside both?
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>>166307106
more like
>we didnt think there could be worse, but we've been wrong
LP was the lesser evil
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>tfw the attributes will go back to full price next tuesday and I still haven't bought all the attributes I want
FUCK. Fuck everything.
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>>166309940
>>166307879
other boards/general are usually full of shit. here often too. you got lucky
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>>166309951
Enjoy your 7 year catnap.
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>>166308710

mages immune to link ;_;
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>>166310348
Doppel would be best since the barb skills synergize better.

Most fencers go Sword3Pelt (filler) Fencer3 because your Fencer rotation is the only thing you ever use so you want 95% uptime Pain Barrier.
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>>166299315
Cats is doing an excellent job. Better than me in many ways. Name a single person in FP that wasn't a previous user of 4chan, I dare you.

>>166299182
>>166299353
>>166299356
I am a PvP guy. This game has no PvP. Thus, I left. Most of the original members left for the very same reason. We had a good run in this game, and plenty of good engagements, but those times are over now. All that awaits this game is stagnation and death.
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>>166311161
This game has PvP, you just never got good at it
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>>166311040
>tfw the entire mage room resists World Tree
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>>166311161
This is why you shouldn't fall for the PvP guild meme. You think that PvP guilds want to get good at the PvP, but they don't want to go through PvE at all and end up being horribly undergeared and then complain that the game requires "too much autism" instead of playing PvP in a non-mmo genre.
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>>166311161
>Name a single person in FP that wasn't a previous user of 4chan
JohnLocke, 3jane and half of the current futureproof
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>>166311040
>>166311457
>tfw old rusty elemWL does it faster than pyroMeme and can full clear easy
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>>166311646
Sure if you have 4k matk.
Otherwise you can't kill mages fast enough.
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>>166311839
mages are 0 problem. only the 9 fighters take a little but also can be killed.
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>>166311406
>Set times for fighting
>Modes that literally NEVER worked
>Rankings that literally NEVER worked
>Permanent stuns, permanent binds, complete immunities with no drawbacks with 100% uptime
>Nothing is ever where it appears to be, ever

PvP is less than an afterthought in this game.

>>166311575
People like this are the absolute worst. "Go play a PvP-centered game, MMOs are not for PvP" truly are the worst people among the post-WoW crowd. MMOs are, first and foremost, about player interaction. That of course includes PvP.

If your think MMOs are just about individual progression, raiding, daily chores, and item treadmills, you're part of the cancer.
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>>166311839
>tfw Diev3Druid3
Henge was a mistake, i don't even need to care about orange autism shit since i just touch 5k magic attack with my +3 stage1 windia
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>>166311839
>>166311040
>mages are fire
Pyros fucked in the ass
>weak to ice
>>166311646
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>>166311581
Those are not in FP
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>>166312428
>moving goalposts
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>>166311457
>Mages do 1 damage to me
>Chain knockdowns over and over and over
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remember to move the window so you can just spam clicks to enter when stances are full
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Discount ending soon. What have you maxed so far, /tosg/?
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>>166312575
players getting knockdowned (in pve) was the worst thing IMC added

fucking shit fuck Kim Fakkyou
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>>166312124
lmao the "post-Wow" crowd is the one that wants instanced PvP where your gear isn't factored into the equation. Get real, old MMO pvp was an unbalanced mess where people with god tier gear came out on top and where the player interaction in which you acquired the tools to PvP was just as important as the PvP itself.

But of course you wouldn't know that because you're an RO private server baby where the devs give you all the stuff you need right away so you can skip all that boring non pvp player progression and interaction you don't like.
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>>166312716
the fact that you can get knocked down while knocked down is cancer
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>>166312646

I have maxed my depression on account of the ban desu
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>>166311161
>Name a single person in FP that wasn't a previous user of 4chan

LolichisSlave, pretty sure that guy is still there.
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>>166312646
Nothing, and won't get my alt at 270 to rank 8 before this discount ends
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>>166312716
>>166312881

one of the reason I reseted my swordsman into pain barrier 15 and stopped playing my mage, feeling indestructible
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>>166312646
I've only getting shit drops the last weeks, only 80% on Agnymemer but that will be fine for some time
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>>166312646
Nothing, I wanted to level up some fencer skills but I decided to spread out my silver across multiple char. That was a mistake
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Hey guys, my name is Brandon. I'm looking to join a guild that has knowledge in PVP/GVG and willing to teach me what I need to know to be good at it. I've played tons of MMO's and i'm looking to making this my main game. I'm 24 and I play a good amount every day. I'm only 115 right now but i've only been playing less than a week. May be low, may be new, but i'm loyal and if you offer me what i need i'll become dope. Let me know if you got anything. My username is AC195 - whisper me in game if you want too. Last person i talked to about a guild was this dumbass named Plasmagica - said I couldnt join because I put numbers in my username. I'm looking for someone who isnt 15 years old to be running the guild too, if possible. Guild doesn't have to be PVP/GVG oriented, but just needs to have people who know about it to teach me. Thanks!
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>>166313176

composee 80 is good already
my priorities are utility attributes (like falcon 3 circling 15)
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>>166313194
You already posted this, Brandon.
Contact Cats
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>>166311161
Cats
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can I delete the files in the patchu folder?
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>ftw taonigga calles storm
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>>166311161
>Name a single person in FP that wasn't a previous user of 4chan, I dare you.
Healmage
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>>166314987

That thot is just a poser, easy to spot
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what's the best way to distribute points for PD2 dedicated to PvE mostly? I was thinking about something like
5 healing factor
10 incineration
1 bloodletting
1 fumigate
2 pandemic
1 beak mask
5 black death steam
5 disenchant
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>>166311161
>Name a single person in FP that wasn't a previous user of 4chan, I dare you.

There's a couple of members who unironically use "xD", it's honestly pretty fucking obvious. I'm not gonna namedrop them.
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Okay I've been away for a few months but... is this some new kind of bot?
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>>166315505
>1 fumigate
>1 beak mask
>5 disenchant
Just take Miko
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4ee.162a315875
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>>166315672
yeah it's not as obvious to report
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>>166315749
what's the best use for pandemic?
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>>166315505
disenchant seems' pointless' for pve
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>>166315672
where exactly do these bots even go when they grow up?
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>>166315850
Black Death Stream > Pandemic.
If you have Pardoner Black Death Stream > DE > Pandemic.

I feel like Pardoner is a waste because I get 100% uptime incineration easily on my diev and Miko offers much more.
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>>166315749
Disenchant have the atribute to remove armor, seems nice for PvP.
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should I suffer farming the aspana revolver or i`ll be fine with the purple one?
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>>166316475
that purple one is garbage, would not use a pract on it.
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>>166315963
No idea but they all seem to build into Wiz2 so far.
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>>166316416
It is, but he said mostly PvE.
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DAY 37 FROM MY FIRST PRAC BOX
DAY 17 OF THE SECOND

AND THE SILVER ANVIL EXPIRED TODAY

JUST

FUCK

MY

SHIT

UP

FAN
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>>166316636
WL2
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>>166316756
2 pract boxes, over 60 days on both here.
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>>166316765
I don't really think bots will manage to hit r8.
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>>166316756
>AND THE SILVER ANVIL EXPIRED TODAY
that would fail anyways. they are traps
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>>166317035
ummm, mine worked yesterday
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>>166317035
nice meme, post some proof or shut the fuck up. you sound as delusional as the "DPK ISN'T REAL" fags.
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okay so I just hit level 290, should I start doing the 290 dungeon as soon as possible, or will I get destroyed if I actually try to do it?
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>>166317778
>>166317625
last time most of my failed. this time i discarded that shit.

fuck IMC's trap anvils
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>>166317889
do 290 rush. join saalus+290 shout parties, so that you can be free from dailies in 15 min.
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>>166317889
Exp is really nice there now. get decent gear and buff up.
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my client was working fine today but then its been suddenly stuck like this for a few hours. I've tried random hotfixes but nothing seems to work.

Help
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>>166317989
t. paranoid retard
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>>166317889
I've seen retards queueing with Cafrisun and the Royal mausoleum bracelets.
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>>166318141
is superior royal guard set good as entry level gear?
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>>166318218
nevermind fixed it :^)
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>>166318342
should be ok with defense gems and a shield and buffs

>>166318042
fullruns are worth it. and its fast with a nice party.
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>>166318342
superior royal guard with 2 level 5 (even level 4 is fine) yellow gems each will give you more than enough def with aspersion for any map you'll play on
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>>166318281
>Saw someone with +10 Cafrisun with Lv6 Yellows.
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>>166318457
what gems should I aim for? also, I'm planning on getting a didel tower shield
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>>166318550
Wow +10 on a 2 star item.
That's like 30 defense.
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>>166318591
i use red but i have virtov with some +
yellow Lv5 should be nice, as >>166318501 wrote

>didel tower shield
pretty good. get one asap
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>>166318591
Yellow.
Red might seem a good idea but it's really not when with yellow you can cut damage by thousands.
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>yfw the futureproof defense force came out for real
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>>166317035

anon, I would use it to pump from +4 to +5, that's 1.5m on a 315 weapon ;____;
>>
easiest matk weapon to farm?

Heart of glory or skull crusher or 2hand staff
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>>166319259
>1.5
> ;____;
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>>166318550
where is it? pretty sure that's just lp.
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/build-saintones-diev-doctor-support-offense-pve-pvp-no-longer-updated/190345/906
RIP
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>>166318591
Your equips, on a budget, should look something like

Top: Superior Royal Guard, 2 level 5 yellow
Bottom: Superior Royal Guard, 2 level 5 yellow
Gloves: Superior Royal Guard/Grynas (Green for Accuracy, Yellow for Block Pen, Monster Gems) or maybe Red Veris for Crit Rate
Shoes: Superior Royal Guard/ Superior Bandit Boots (Evasion vs Plate Mastery) 2 level 5 blue gems for mdef

Necklace: Ideally a max petamion but kind of expensive, any sort of high level necklace for mdef, Agni for +200 fire attack

Rings: Two glass bracelets for mdef

Shield: Didel Tower Shield, gems are blue for block, green for crit rate, or red for physical attack

if 5's are kind of hard to get if you dont do uphill or have lots of mats, 4's are fine to substitute but get 5's for your final set.
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>>166319663
>wall of text to explain what literally everybody who has been playing since beta already knew
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>>166319663
>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/build-saintones-diev-doctor-support-offense-pve-pvp-no-longer-updated/190345/906

based guy. the best in the game and instread of being a useless fat neet he simple go and join the us army, top kek

I wonder how it is to be good at life
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>>166319663
at least Saintone is doing something and he literally beat PvE
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>>166320180
>join the military
>be good at life
Pick one
>>
>>166319663
I'm glad he acknowledged the Ausrine+Melstis nonsense, that combo is essentially for the cleric tree what quickcast was for the wizard tree; they either leave the game blatantly easy to cheese with that combo or every r9 mob is going to have dispels out the ass like how every r8 mob has high magic defense.
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>>166320547
>what quickcast was for the wizard tree
Oh come on, those are in no way comparable.
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>>166320650
They are, QC meant for the forseeable future IMC would have to tune enemy design around all wizards doing +50% damage for a 2 rank investment. The cleric combo requires more coordination but it's the same principle, every ET team brings 1 diev 3+1 krivis 3 for that combo which is irreplaceable.
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>>166320962
>+50% damage
>permanent invulnerability
Yup, I can't tell the difference.
>>
>>166320962
>Class rankins mattering

now THIS is an horrible design.
>>
>>166320962
They nerfed magic damage as a whole because swordcucks bitched and whined for months.

If they thought Quick Cast was the only problem they could have, you know, fucking nerfed quick cast only?
retard.
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>>166320962
>+50% damage
>swords have like a dozen +%dmg skills/combos
>swords have like a dozen pdef reduce skills

>IMC making sense
>2 rank investment
>Agny neck added
>cheap gear'd Pyro outdps well gear'd Elems
>IMC making sense
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>>166319663
>Saintone, the king of PvE in this game, the guy who wrote all the guides for beating meta content in the game
>Quitting the game, made a huge rant on how disappointing things are

Nothing here is news but the fact that the one guy everyone referenced in order to "progress" through the game is a major loss for this pathetic attempt at a game.

Tree of Savior is an abortion, there's nothing that can be said or done to save it. The game won't die immediately, but instead it will slowly bleed out and fall into "Oh, that happened" territory, just like Legend of the Second and so many other games. Witnessing as a potentially 10/10 game dies a slow, agonizing, and premature death is honestly heart wrenching. Saintone quitting is but the latest symptom of this.
>>
I love this game but I'm sick of all this crap everyone spouts and that they're going to still be spouting 2 years from now.
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>>166321509
r9 will introduce magic break

screencap this
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>>166321983
>they're going to still be spouting 2 years from now.
people are actually quitting now though, lots of people, even the ultimate autists like Lolipan and dvine
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>>166320962
What is barbarian doing +50% slash damage and being rank3 as well
Plus 1 billion attack from warcry and extending debuffs on enemies now
>>
>>166322067
>mobs will have 4-8k magic defense
>only 1 magic break ability
>it from a cleric class
Yeah, I can see that.
>>
>>166322152
>extending debuffs on enemies now
That's particularly retarded.
Literally an AoE Discerning Evil, as if Barbarian wasn't already good.
>>
>>166322169

Enchanters are getting an Enchant Weapon skill. It'll almost certainly have an ability that lets you bypass enemy defence/mdefence. It'll be something retarded like 5%.
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>>166319152
FPs are the best friends. See you guys after work!

If anyone wants an invite pm Cats later!
>>
>>166321509
They couldn't directly nerf quickcast because elememe was the most popular build in the game on Ktos at the time and they were fighting to retain players.

>>166321560
Swordsman skills aren't fire and forget ranged spells that do 20+ hits and swordsman can't add flat damage to their attacks without sacrificing crit rate and evasion.
>>
why do dragonborn and doubleup always have shit weapons equipped when they both have stage 10 transcended prac weapons?

are they embarrassed by their obvious rmting?
>>
>>166321983
truth hurts

>>166322067
maybe.. but probably >>166322169 or >>166322314
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>>166322479
>They couldn't directly nerf quickcast because elememe was the most popular build in the game on Ktos at the time and they were fighting to retain players.
Yes, and so they nerfed EVERY SINGLE WIZARD BUILD IN THE GAME.
Are even trying now?
>>
I haven't played ToS since forever.

What is the best way to waste your EXP cards? I've read they have changed the leveling, but I don't trust casuals.
>>
I never noticed Carpenter Gloves before
Is the Vubbe Blood meme over?
>>
>>166322479
>add flat damage to their attacks without sacrificing crit rate and evasion.
You're just trolling now, or legitimately retarded, hard to tell.
>>
>>166322130
Lolipan didn't quit. He just shitposts around here and then in a few months, he'll start playing again, and then whine about how PVP is shit and quit again and act like the game is going to imminently die because he can't GvG.
He'd quit anyway even if IMC put open GvG back in because he couldn't even handle real open PVP in EVE after going on about it.

As for the game, IMC needs to hand it off to Nexon for NA region already. They failed to provide a better service and have gone back on all other promises. At least Nexon has server capacity.

>>166322583
>truth hurts

>This game is gonna die in 1 month
>No 5 months
>No 1 year
>It's really gonna die soon gaiz1!
``truth''
>>
>>166322479
see >>166322602

>they can cuz all elem will quit
is a old and false meme

>>166322629
leveling is easy and fast now. just use your cards
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>>166322503
yes lol, they are.

it's cute in a way.
>>
>>166322802
When should I waste them? Until I'm below 5 levels of difference with the map I'm in? Or just blow them?
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>>166322781
ofc it will not die in a month or 3 or 5, but there is a lot of of shit in this game, everywhere.

>IMC needs to hand it off to Nexon for NA region already.
nigga..
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>>166319663
Top kek
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>>166321983
I feel like the doomposting in tosg has at least been better than it was a few months ago.

But the forums will always be a cesspool so that can't be helped. At least the people who got tired of the game a few months after release and stuck around for half a year more complaining are finally leaving, and maybe even new blood is replacing them.

>>166322685
DIscount vubbe gauntlets, but 1 aoe ratio doesn't do much, since most enemies are medium size.
>>
>>166322503
What weapon does doubleup have?
>>
>>166323701
stage 10 windia rod
also his stage 3 or 4 lionhead shield
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>>166323813
oh cool, is that on his dievkirvis?
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>>166322781
>Lolipan didn't quit. He just shitposts around here and then in a few months, he'll start playing again

Anon, I.....
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>>166322314
You mean this skill...?
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>>166323956
yea
>>
>290 70% clear: 6/9
>240 full clear: 2/3
>Saalus: 6/6
>290 rush: 3/3
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>>166325306
Why aren't you doing the 315 dungeon too?
>>
>>166325771
Because its shit
>>
>>166325771

hm, how much silver we can get there
>>
>>166327148
no raw silver. but dhrag shit still sells for like 4m. and it's fast if you have a good team.
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>>166325771
maybe he still has et to do too
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>>166329758
>32 eva
>32 acc
shit weapon
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>>166329758
Hopefully it's in the next gacha
>>
>>166329758
i want this fine vietnamese sickle
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>>166329915
>+10 bash
>shit weapon

shit player
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>>166327261

>team
>friends

well lad

there's a reason I rarely do uphills ;_;
>>
>>166329915
you can just go full dex you know
>>
>>166330898
>Going full Dex when the Str buff will scale like attributes with every 10 Str giving 1 percent
>going full dex when that Str scaling will be multiplied again by attributes
Get a load of this guy and his mini games meme
>>
>>166331225
I just came back a week ago and I keep seeing this stat rework news, where can I find more details?
>>
>>166331225

>when

post source

yes, str/int overhaul is a priority but lol

>imc time

everyone who went full dex at r7 did well and only lose ~20% dps compared to a str MIN MAXER, without min maxing shit was even less relevant plus they had evasion AND could pvp
there was also guys like me who went 1:4 str/dex and only lose around 10% dps on a min max scenario

everyone who kept full dex at r8...well... did the best for a pve perspective AND could also pve

you had two chances to reset your stats my son and when they change str, they will give another reset potion so whatever
>>
>>166332086
no details or date. that fag is shitposting.
>>
Does the class reset scroll delete anything from your inventory except class outfits?
>>
>>166332771
no
>>
>>166329915
it makes for a nice hakka stat stick
>>
>archers can wield swords in their off hand
>swordies can't

explain this shit
>>
>>166333610
I mpress
M otivate
C onnect
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>>166333610
>Hackas are a better swordie than most swordies
>>
>>166333861
Incompetant
MMO
Company
>>
Invincible
Magnific
Cuties!
>>
Inbred
Moronic
Cucks
>>
they should remove treat limit ohly shit

I can wipe the whole screen but my character can aggro only...9 mobs or so

peltasta is too OP for being the only class capable of pulling the whole screen

that's why doggiedoo doppel's is pelt 3?
>>
>>166336239
>that's why doggiedoo doppel's is pelt 3?
No, his doppel is pelt3 because he's a retard
>>
Impale
Myself
(with a) Cactus
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>>166336279

but serious, just imagine having new cyclone 300 aoe ratio + whole screen taunt lol

I think he can wipe the 240 dungeon in 10 minutes

I just don't get why he took cata 1, barb would be perfect
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It's almost February 2017 and you retards still play this garbage. How the fuck do you justify this?

I quit around last year August only to come back in November for a month only to realize the Rank 9 patch did nothing to the game and p2w just got worse.

Why the fuck do you subject yourself to this shit? Is it really that much fun to do the same shit over and over again on a dead MMO?

Even this general is utter garbage.

Why are you still playing this?
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>>166336669
http://steamcharts.com/app/372000

ALIVE AND GROWING
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>>166336239
>peltasta is too OP for being the only class capable of pulling the whole screen

Well, technically a lot of props can pull aggro too. Necros can also pull the whole screen because each summon can take aggro. There does need to be a softer aggro cap though instead of like "5 things aggro me so now I can be ignored by all other monsters"

>>166336669
Because it makes you butthurt
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>>166336669
>r9 patch
retard
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FACT: Homoculus can't link mobs to fireballs.
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>>166336669
I'm sorry you stopped having fun anon, you should try and find something you enjoy too. Holding onto grudges is unhealthy.
>>
>>166336669
I played the game today and had fun. Nice integers.
>>
from the forums:

They have offline meeting with IMC + players in Korea. :sweat_smile:

Event Name : TOS Talk Talk
Schedule : 02/11 ( Sat ) 2:00 pm to 4:00 pm
Place : IMC GAMES In- house meeting room
Note
- you must bring your ID card .
-Snacks and drinks are available for you to enjoy .
- No additional transportation or transportation is provided .
It's small, but it's the first offline event since ToS started.

Edit: note this means on February 11

will someone kill kim
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>>166337114
Just imagine what the game population will be in 2 years at this rate... w o w
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>>166336514
He doesn't need extra damage, he just wants to run faster between packs I guess.
>>
Where do you find Superior Royal Guard Armor recipe?
>>
>>166337114
>http://steamcharts.com/app/372000
>Last 30 Days - 4,403.8 avg - 6,336 peak

>October 2016 - 4,324.8 avg - 6,817 peak
>September 2016 - 4,583.5 avg - 7,148 peak
Uhmmm...

At this rate we're going to get an average of 5-6k players but only a peak of ~6.5. It seems more like people are playing more, than that the population is increasing.
>>
>>166337619

yeah but trot lv 5 is barely better than dashing
>>
>GG IMC, Saintone is Leaving Now Too
No..., no this cannot be, not Literallywhoone. No like this...

Next thing we know Klaipeda heavyweights such as llak and Alsheyra are leaving too ;_;
>>
queue for gvg nerds
>>
Is Tehvrin still stupid hard? I'm 308 WL2 with 1.2k mdef, am I going to suffer
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>>166337114
Heh, 4000 average now? That's growth? You are an optimistic anon. You should play better games. People would like you in them.

>>166337150
Doesn't make me hurt. I honestly feel bad for anyone playing this game still.

>>166337245
You're still doing this shitty forced meme? Must love those captchas.

>>166337476
Can't have fun in a bug ridden game with no balance and no content. It's still a cute game.

>>166337485
I played Nioh demo today and had a ton of fun too. Pre-ordered it. Looking forward to some awesome games this year. Hope you don't plan on wasting your entire year on this game.

I am curious about some things, feel free to shitpost reply or give serious ones:

1. How dead is your server? Sorry this isn't a serious question.
2. How did meta change in December?
3. How much worse is the cash shop gacha now?
4. Did you faggots really go to Japenis servers?
5. FPS still fucking terrible?
6. Bugs still not fixed?
7. Cleric still OP as fuck, especially with Miqu?
8. Guilds still pointless other than chat rooms and muh friendus?
9. Did they fix alchemists at all mainly magnum opus?
10. Did they add the homons and how useless are they?
11. How much do Tokens cost now in silver?
12. Are you guys still slaves to Saalus runs?
13. Are you guys still slaves to Practoniums?
14. Did they add the orange end game weapons and do they really need 2x Pract?
15. Are dungeons still dead?
16. Are you still slaves to CM runs for some shitty ores?
17. Gacha cube p2w?
18. Did Agni save the mage DPS class?
19. Monster AI still broken and retarded?
20. Madarafaggots get pushed down the ladder yet?

Thanks.
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>>166338184
Yes.
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>>166338289
rip
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>>166337474
useless nude shitter

>>166337489
>will someone kill kim
hehehehe

>>166337521
>+15% each month
A L I V E
>>
>>166337489
I WANT TO MEET ALL THE KQTGFS THAT PLAY THIS HORRENDOUS GAME

I WANT A MAGGI SIGNATURE

I WANT TO JACK OFF IN THE PUBLIC BATHROOM AND THEN SHAKE KIM'S HAND WITH THAT HAND I USED

WHY CANT THEY HAVE ONE IN AMERICA
>>
>>166338704
Because Americans will figure out some exploit to reroll pract cubes by sucking Kim's dick or something and he'll be swarmed and by honest hardworking fags looking to give some succ.
>>
>>166337685
>Superior Royal Guard Armor
Something in storage
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>>166338223
1 is ok
2 not much new in Dec
3 gone now. no p2w gacha yet
4 nobody did
5 ofc
6 some are, some new, like always
7 ye
8 ye
9 still shit
10 yes, shit
11 1.7m-2m
12 ye
13 ye
14 ye
15 no
16 probably, i dont do cm
17 not yet
18 nah, but is OP
19 ye
20 they gone
>>
>>166339195
thanks

>not much new in Dec
that's sad

>2m tokens
makes sense but holy shit

>not yet p2w Gacha
they waiting for what?

>nah but is OP
don't understand but ok

>they gone
they gone? you don't see any swords at all? or just doppelniggers?

>gone now, no p2w gacha yet
what is gone? the cash shop?
>>
>>166338223
stfu autist
>>
Hi I'm thinking of coming back. I quit around September last year and I got some free time.

However I have one deal breaker and it's the whole "legit botting" thing.

Are there still AFK "bee farmers" in the game or something similar? I hate MMO's that become so dead the developers are too afraid to ban people who bot, just because they use a game mechanic to do so.
>>
>>166339614
madara was a meme and nobody gives a shit about it ingame

agny is strong but also nobody cares much

there was costume&hat gacha, they removed them and add the same with different items soon. no info about real p2w gacha
>>
>>166340060
Since you're actually responding I also want to ask:

What do you think is the worst thing about the game?

What do you think is the best thing about the game?

What keeps you playing?

What might make you finally drop the game, if anything?

What are your hopes for the game?
>>
>>166339939
Yes, there's still afk farmers. You can make an Oracle if you hate them that much.
>>
>>166339939

still happens but they nerfed channel numbers and other stuff, also, the players do the dirty work on those places
>>
>>166340506
>worst
transcendence (and pve player knockdown) and ofc IMC

>best
graphics, audio (got game muted mostly tho)

>keeps u playin
guild, friends, classes i like

>drop game
dont know, bored recently, balances and future patchs look bad..

>hope
no idea

got nothing else to play now. or more like, not in mood for other games i have. no new/other great game i can love. probably like many
>>
>>166338976
>Kim offers prac to anyone who sucks him off
>Takes down their team name so he knows who to mail it to
>The next day IMC announces a ban list with all their names, for "RMTing"
>>
>>166341281
>The next day IMC announces a ban list with all their names, for "RCTing"
>Real Cum Trading
>>
>>166341281
Would mark desu
>>
>>166340607
>>166340617
Yeah that's a deal breaker for me sadly.

Oracles killing them once is fun, but you know it's a guy with a 2nd and 3rd account running 24/7 so he doesn't lose any time.

Kill them one night and they're back the next and the Oracle is too busy to do it every night of his life.

I had fun though back during those busy hours. Launch was fun. It's getting close to a 1 year anniversary for the game and seeing as only 4k players play it and botting still is an issue I can't imagine how I'd catch up at all, especially with no friends in the game.

Thanks for replies.
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That was fun.
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Is tex "pull the trigger on every dievnigger" ugo /ourguy/?
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>>166343589
isnt he a cannon 2?
>>
>>166335782
I genuinely believe you're the first person to actually make this abbreviation.
>>
>>166343908
I think so
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>>166342810
I thought you left
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>>166342810
Future proof is saved pm Cats now before all spots gone!
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>>166342810
THIS is how you have fun.
>>
>>166345097
Are CNLs even human...
>>
>>166344847
Thanks missinfo
>>
>>166344442
I'll never come back, but I'll never leave completely either.

>>166344847
You guys can free up my slot anytime, you know.

>>166345097
I don't judge people over sexual stuff. Unless NTR is involved.
>>
>rush buffed from 100% mod to 150% mod
>face a stage 10 2handed spear cata
>7k each hit on plate armor

nice game
>>
>>166346620
>not playing diev kabba inq
What did you expect?
>>
>>166346620
>playing tos

uhmmm
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>>166345373
>Unless NTR is involved

Is your dad a faceless old man?
>>
im tired of this game and the damn whales ruining it for everyone else

gears that can makes you cry, meta as fuck builds and bug abuse on top of that

i'll be quitting again in the next few days, tell me what i should play next
>>
>>166347224
ToS of Savior.
>>
>>166347224
I've been thinking about quitting for some time now, i might actually do it soon too. I'm slowly getting less and less reasons to log in these days.
>>
>>166347224
Play competitive league in ARMS
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>>166347224
>>
>>166347218
My dad is a handsome old man, mind you. I hate NTR because I am a huge vanillafag.
>>
SCAR AND TOPH KREYGASM
>>
>>166347898
What if he isn't your real dad?
>>
>>166348437
Pretty sure he's my real dad, we're very alike.
>>
>>166347763
This game was amazing for a few days when they implemented region lock forcing you to be on teams with people in your geographic area, then they pussied out and relaxed the geographic range so it's back to Peruvian retards.
>>
>>166319663
If he wasnt joining the military, he'd probably stay longer. I'm sure real life is still a big factor.
>>
>>166348592
>we're very alike
Simply being both black isn't really "very alike"
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daily reminder nobody is tosg
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Where is the guy who can GvG rankings? Can you post it for this week? Thanks!
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>>166349228
>>
Is there a maintenance tomorrow? I'm not seeing shit from the main site.
>>
>>166349609
>>
>>166349910
>Nexon
>>
>>166347898
How is Loli the vanilla one and my browser history tags are all
xray
messy
pizzas

If you combine these tags you get some pretty hot pizzas
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>>166349910
Thank you very much.
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>>166349910
FP STRONK
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Is element attack better than crit attack for hat enchants?
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Are we getting a new gacha cube tomorrow?
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>>166350717

I hope we finally get the P2W gacha. I need some practonium but can't be bothered to level alts.
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>>166350267
>sample
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>missed a few days of farming due to game being unplayable
>not enough silver to grab the attributes I want
well shit
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>>166351389
true, they really should make attributes buy-able after that event ends. FFS IMC
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>>166350717
Kancolle Sailor suit WHEN
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Login for the day
First thing I see is Mia shitposting on shout
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>>166352510
post logs, I missed them
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>>166340617
On Fedimian they actually added 3 channels in Dina
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>>166352735
>tfw theres like 9 channels on Timery when we could've had them on some other maps
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>>166352783
I had to solo grind timerys a few hours today, managed to get 3 blues by channel hopping. Can't complain.
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>>166352783
Is Timerys way more popular in ktos than it is here or something?
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>>166352095
Please anon, I am poor, let me complain
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>>166353085
every grind map has a dozen channels now after the patchu
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>>166354610
Wonder if hunting grounds will siphon some channels away again.
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just a friendly reminder:

Swaaz, please die.
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>>166349169

>black
>father

dude
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>sawai blessing
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>>166357171
STOP GETTING BUFFS FROM MY HIME
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>>166358072
I'll get some buffies from her, then some from faery and you can't stop me
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>all these buff shops to take advantage of
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let me in
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>>166358816
>tfw you will never tease Sawai as she tries to bless you while Kinte polishes your rod, Moesaki rubs your gems and Faery fondles your chest
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>>166359273
Let me in your vagoo first.
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>>166359273
You dumb cow
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>>166360205
cow is playing on another account
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=824
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>>166360859
hunting grounds when
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>>166360859
>no actual bug fixes or ktos patches
>but hey a new hat
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>>166360859
>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=823

>Survive the bosses inside the event dungeon without using skills or items.
Auto attack event

>You can enter the event dungeon once per day (2 times for Token users)
pay to win

>per team.
Will probably be per character again.
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>>166361032
its not even auto attacking, its a timer based event, you just hold C or buy aspersion
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>>166360859
Looks like it will be a waste of time
Could have been a nice exp event but nope, no skills means you just have to run in circles and in the end you get 1 Keista pot
Fuck this
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>>166361032
>- Participation in the event is counted on a per-team basis. You can participate with different characters and all their runs will count towards the total number of runs of your team.
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>>166361390
IMC literally couldnt get it to work for the last event that did this so you could do it on every character
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>>166361534
I know. This time they couldn't repair it before event so they decided to make it work on all characters.
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>>166360859
>- [UPDATED] When using "Restart from the Nearest Revival Point", you will be teleported to Orsha. You will be able to re-enter the event mission.
>- [UPDATED] All buffs except for EXP-related will be removed. e.g. The EXP buff from EXP Tome will not be removed.

But won't re-entering from Orsha use up another entry??????
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>>166362007
if the instance remains after you get kicked out you can still rejoin it
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>>166362063
Oh wait it's late and I'm a huge idiot, I was thinking the dungeon was solo for some reason even though it explicitly says otherwise.
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>2800usd for 3 posters
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>>166362510

What the fuck, why is that expensive?
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>>166363525
>Auction
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>>166363525
Signed by Lee Myung-jin.
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Is Runecaster going to be good with the kToS buffs?
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>>166363828
Honestly no since it still kind of sucks but if you go Wiz3 Link2 you generally have a free slot for r6 and RC fits in there pretty well. Probably everything in the game would die to a JP HK + Rune of Justice, and everything that isnt linkable you can kill with Warlock2 or FF2 (Decay/blood bomb)
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When are IMC going to stop being fags and allow summons to be buffed with aspersion and blessing and the like? I don't understand why they limit their buffs but then let them get affected by poison and burn and sleep and freeze and stuff.
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>>166363925
You'll have a very hard time against bosses with those builds.
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>>166364396
>poison and burn and sleep and freeze and stuff
Reminder that Skellies where immune to those before.
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>>166364675
Oh no, he might have to even form a party!
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>>166364675
Warlock will rip through every quest boss pretty easily. If its missions or saalus just let the other people kill shit
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>>166363828
Like this anon says >>166363925 could be good with a wiz3linnkRClock2 build. Mastema turning shit to be weak to holy will make justice hit for a decent amount
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>>166364798
>forming a party for questing
Good luck with that.

>>166364808
Warlock can't really kill 2 million hp bosses easily. FF2 has a much harder time too.
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Uhm. What's a good MMR to stop at?

Need just enough Epeen while not being that difficult to maintain.

I got carried twice.
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>>166364896
>Good luck
Just because you don't have guildmates who can help you doesn't mean everyone else is fucked too
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>>166322951
That's still a good rule of thumb. But exp from monsters are really more flexible now.

Specially since monsters even +15 your level is doable as long as your gear is good now due to the penalty changes.
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>>166339939
Put it this way.

Afk farming with necros are not as profitable as just actively farming with your character anymore.

And that's a plus. The margin is huge as well.

You can doa quick dungeon rush 5 mins each of 290 for 100k each run. (multiply by 3 runs)

You can full wipe within 15 mins 240/145/130 for an estmated 300k eac run (multiply by 3 runs)

Compared to an afk necros 50k/hour rate.

Honestly the way we have other silver sources now makes botting at a disadvantage. This is why there are lower demand on Bot RMT silver now. Not to mention bots normally can't break the 130 lvl barrier due to the insane amount of manual grind they need to do to reach the ghigher levels meaning they will and do get caught now eventually with some small exceptions.
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>>166365891
>not doing all runs and then afk farm only when youre away
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Odds I farm on my Fencer
Even I farm on my Miko
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>>166365472
You're on 1012 points mate, that's literally win one game. The score just reset everyone will overtake that in the next few days.
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>1. Event Period
>- From: scheduled maintenance on January 24, 2017
>- To: scheduled maintenance on February 2, 2017

Poster says til Feb. 14 but patch note says Feb.2 well which fucking is it?
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>>166367110

Probably 14th, we don't have maintenance on 2nd. They probably just copied and translated it from Korea.
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>>166367110
Dunno, IMC probably doesn't either.
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>>166366941
Welp. Got to queue again I guess.
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>>166366845
Have fun
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>>166367938
Who cares you're already higher than Lolipan and Swaaz combined.
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>>166368360
Feels weird winning games without showing myself out of stealth though (except for the last seconds of a match).

Throwing properly placed Lachrymator and smoke grenades to mess with foes and then stealing enemy safety walls or raises when needed.

That's most of my contribution unless something shit goes wrong.
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>(14 days)
Into the trash it goes, like all events.
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>>166368249
Thanks anon.
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>>166368596
People win with their Rank 5 alts being dead all game or AFK. Every game is pretty much a 2v2 between the catagoons/kinos/inquisitors while the other 3 are usually some trash low level alts or archers that serve as nothing more than distractions.
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>>166360859
Isn't this random boss card thing kind of a big deal? If it's truly random then we're gaining access to a lot of boss cards that have previously been completely inaccessible, which is also a buff for Sorcerers.

https://tos.neet.tv/items/644123

Also just curious, do buffs work on boss monsters? I think I've seen people use some buffs like haste and quicken on them, so I'm wondering if you can slap Rune of Ice on this guy for some hilarity.
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>>166370075
it's random boss cube, not card.
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>>166370150
Well that's fucking boring. 20 runs for the headband it is.
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>>166360859
>The problem of the 'Blessing' buff bought from Spell Shop stacking has been fixed.
hehehe
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>>166361102
>buy aspersion
Not even that
>[UPDATED] All buffs except for EXP-related will be removed. e.g. The EXP buff from EXP Tome will not be removed.
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>>166372004
I bet you anything it'll be a sfk in the corner for 5 minutes kind of thing
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>>166372275
Well there's multiple bosses, so unless it's open like mines, you'll probably have to have someone lure them into a corner first.

They're probably hoping people will lure bosses over to afkers and kill them since they seem to design events to make players be mean to each other.
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>3 week long shit event
>I thought a months ban would be suffering
Nice to see I'm not missing anything of value
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>>166365891
but you can do all those things and still afk with your necro? with a decent spot i get at least 100k/hour I don't even need to play the game
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What're the best weapon gems for archers?
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>>166374031
if you are critting, yellows
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>The problem of the 'Blessing' buff bought from Spell Shop stacking has been fixed.

Well, fuck you too, Kim.
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I'm using a superior corona rod +5 as a budget entry level weapon, should I socket it with lvl 5 blues or reds?
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>>166374402
Blues if you are only using it for magic damage.
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>>166372775
>missing a Hat
how can you keep living like that..
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holy shit, I forgot to roast the gem before putting it in the socket
thankfully it was only level 5
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>>166374887
Embarassing, take it out.
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S< +6 Catacomb Shooter...you know you wanna take this lovely merch off my hands its crafted the the legendary super saiycoughcough i mean crafter Ajeet. We all know he makes the greatest quality gear West of Orsha...North too.
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>>166375195
>Futureproof
>br crew
Good bait
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>>166374989
yeah I had to remove it, there's no way that could stay there
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>>166374887
My meme hammer has 5 unroasted 6* gems.
;-;
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>>166375607
>My meme hammer has 5 unroasted 6* gems.

How do you live with the shame
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For the Ktos anons I'm just curious, does this event give out only dungeon cubes or can it be world boss cubes too? Also do you get xp for surviving the waves or is this essentially a 10 minute event that spits out a fortune cookie and won't really help with leveling?
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Finally did it Reddit
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>>166376207
I never doubted you. Upboated!
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>>166376207
>I made 13m so far
how
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If I crit 100% of the time, and my class has high base damage on all skills with a lot of debuffs that boosts my damage by %, should I got for reds or yellows?

Because a red gem 7 is effective 232.5 attack if you can crit, and a yellow gem 7 is 470 crit attack. I'm using a hop3doppelgoonn2, which has 70% + 100% from spear lunge+serpentine the red gem will be giving 395 attack, still less than a yellow gem, but I see everybody everywhere with Reds instead of Yellows, so I dunno if I'm just wrong on how they work, it has some kind of hidden mechanic or something.
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>>166377107
Y E L L O W
Each point of crit damage is 1.5x the amount of normal damage.
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>>166376207
Is that the legendary FWEE3?
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>>166377107
If you always crit definitely yellow.
+70% of spear lunge multiplies your whole damage, crit attack included.
Not sure about serpentine but it should be the same.

>>166377193
>Each point of crit damage is 1.5x the amount of normal damage.
What
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666999.21344555.153545.59859fa1bf.1d315f6695a5

Is this a good doppel build?
It feels like getting Deeds past 10 is suicidal
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>>166377571
Your defense stops at 0, you won't have negative defense.
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>>166377571
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666999.21344555.153545.59859fa1bf.1f415f61768691

Fix'd
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>>166377456
>What
1 point of Str = 1 damage
1 point of Crit attack = 1.5 damage
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>>166377687
>peltasta on a 2h build
>fixed
Nope
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>>166377687
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666999.21344555.153545.5a6a8591a1bf.1f415f61768691

Fix'd my fix, your barb skill were also shit

>>166377769
Can work if he doesn't wanna to be the TOP DPS 360 NO SCOPE MLG. Highlander gives the nice Crit Atk for 2h atribute, but that's it.
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>>166377839
Are the doppel3 skills really that bad over the doppel 2 skills at lvl 6?
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>>166377206
It's the Fwee3 indeed
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>>166377758
>1 point of Crit attack = 1.5 damage
What
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>>166377758
>1 point of Str = 1 damage
wrong
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>>166377981
Yes, the lvl 6 is to unlock the atributes to make the dopple2 skills hit more lines. If have the money you can put the skills in lvl 6, buy the atribute and use a skill reset to keep the atributes even with the skills in lvl 1
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>>166378273
I see, i do have a spare skill reset potion but my only concern is that the attribute trick may not work with how the new shop is
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>>166378486
As far as i know, nothing changed. The DoppelMadaras can tell you more about it.
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uwah this game is still alive.
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>>166378924
+ 15 % !!
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>>166378924
うわ~まだ生きてるかよ
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>>166378924
きもい
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>>166377758

1 str = 1 attack and 1 crit attack, anon

on an archer
10 str = 10 attack and 10 crit attack

when you crit, you do (10)*1,5 +10 = 25 damage.

so let's say you have a 300 damage skill without mods on a 200 str character using a 500 attack weapon with 2x lv 7 yellow gems (470*2) on a neutral damage (like pierce on plate)

skill damage + character attack (str + weapon atk) = 300+700 = 1.000 attack.

if you don't crit, you do 1000 damage

if you land a crit, you do [(1000)*1,5] + 940 = 1500+940, so total damage = 2440
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>>166378924
Why do you think it's still alive?
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>>166379620
>300+700 = 1.000 attack.
>300 + 700 = 1
Wat
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>>166379693
tosg is still alive therefore the game is still alive
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>>166379967
retard burger
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>New Event: Survival Instinct Begins
>Survive the new event dungeon without the help of any skills or items
hook64: The Event
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>>166379982
>tosg
>alive
When we have an active week we average 2 threads/week
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>>166380012
You're the one who put a decimal, not me.
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>>166380181
niceme.me

is like 1 a day. or 1 in 2day
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>>166379620
>skill damage + character attack (str + weapon atk)
>skill damage plus character attack multiplied by strength plus weapon attack
You suck at this math thing
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>>166380337
each thread last atleast 3 days unless it gets shitposted to bump limit
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>>166380465
nah. 1-2day. just check em

not like that matters or is in any way connected to alive/ded game
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>>166380181
Avg 3 threads a week dumbo
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>>166380269
> . are decimals indicators instead of ,

Which kind of retarded country is this
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>>166382837
>all of the most advanced nations in the world use . as decimals
rly thinking here
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>>166383039
>advanced nations
thinking a lot
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>>166376437
step 1) make 20X 290s character and a 290 necro
step 2) run 290 rushes since the boss alone gives 100k when it's killed
step 3) bee farm with necro when you go to sleep
step 4) ???
step 5) PROFIT
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>>166382837
>>166380365
>>166379967

his numbers are accurate, the problem is that you tried to read his lines as a perfect equation in a math notebook

it was just a 4chan post and he pointed how atack from str, weapon and skill works on a critical hit and how critical attack gets added later, unlike the other who was multiplying everything
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>>166383364

girl in pink has some juicy tights, post more of her
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>>166383364
Do these girls actually think that looks cool? Or that they can dance? Why are asians so soulless and cringey?
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>>166383694
>Or that they can dance?
Show us a good dance anon
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>>166383364
Get your 3D normie shit outta here!
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>>166383765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Aa9GwWaRv0
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How to salvage C2 - P3 - Miko - Oracle?
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>>166384405
Inquisitor salvages literally anything
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>>166384405
Just get inq? that's a pretty good build.
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>>166384405

nothing wrong with this my fan

just go inq and be a pvp memer. Inq is also good for autoattack shennaningans (malleus debuff is strong as fuck for multi-lines and multihits like miko's fc) you can solo the whole game with this

and counterspell+prophecy + inq set and priest support is good for pvp. not diev level but still cancerous
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CAPYRABA MAKE COFFEHOUSE GREAT AGAIN
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>>166385014
With how many xD this time?
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so this is the last day to enjoy attributes discount, right?
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>97.8% explored
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>>166385141
As many as possible
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>>166385014
First i need to wait for someone to log and take back guild authority, then i need to know if there ae anons left here, now we are 100% tosg, all the outsiders except one guild jumped away when i took break 2 months ago
You could come back too baka russian hacker
>>166385678
Looks like,managed to get maxed Falcon3 attributes and had money left for dumping a good +20% on Druid Owls too
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>>166386160
>couldn't just kick them

You beta rodent.
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>Join rush party
>Enter dungeon
>This happens
Thanks Mr. Kim
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>>166386503
Meanwhile on Saalus
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>>166386160

Nice, I'll max my circling too and then dump the rest of my money on composee
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>>166386385
DELET RODENT BULLYING
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whats the best path for a dragoon?
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>>166386630
Hop3DoppelDragoon
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>>166386612
Giant useless rodents were made for bullying.
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>>166386503
holy shit
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>>166386759
ty qt
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>>166386803
Are you done shitting up the thread again?
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>>166386971
Yea you can get back to your daily circlejerk about retarded pizza avatarfag or whatever ERP garbage drama you currently have. You have my permission.
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>>166387321
You're worse tbqh
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>>166387445
Hardly some fedimian shitters posting can be worse than that cancer comming from Cats
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>>166387321
Please post more webbums of the big mammal things.
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>>166387445
It's okay, we all understand your huge personal traumatic experience with rodents, but /tosg/ is not a place for you to blog about it.
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>>166387321
Cats is constantly banned because of his retarded shit. He has to ask other people to make recruitment posts for him.
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>>166387321
Pizza > Rats
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If Coffee is back Ohayou when?
Is Clover comming back too?And Kotastu?
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>>166390220
no
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>>166391204
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>>166391551
>>
How am I supposed to roll Kino? I want to make a dude for that pimp as fuck costume. Most of the builds I see are Cryo Icewall+PP memes, is there anything else? Do I absolutely need Quickcast?
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>>166390220
Ohayou and Clover never left
>>
I need to farm mats for Orange recipes I guess. I'm not familiar with the maps or mobs, but I'm willing to roll a new character for it.

I know the >meta is pyro2link2thaum1wl2, but would Enchanter work instead of Warlock 2? I want to make scrolls and setup shop.
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>>166392209
>pyro2link2thaum1wl2
What?
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>>166391551
Agny was released, why this seal is still crying?
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>>166392267
Oh. Was I lied to? That would be very sad.

How do you farm mats for orange recipes?
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>>166392209
>I want to make scrolls and setup shop.
is shit. enchanter sucks

>meta is pyro2link2thaum1wl2
is crappy. WL sucks, do
>pyro2,link2,thaum2,xx
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>>166391892
You can try my build if you want, its PyroKino3Linker2Sage.

Ideally you're able to CC an entire screens worth of enemy in hilarious ways (JP, Magnetic Force, Raise, Gravity Pole, PP stun). Pyro with Agni is pretty danke, Fireball + PP for bosses and JP + Flame Ground + CC vaporizes most things.

The basic combos goes JP --> HK --> MF --> Flame Ground + PP or Gravity Pole depending which is on CD.

The last rank in Sage actually isn't needed, you can go Pyro2 for more firepower but I just liked the support aspect of it. So you could also just go PyroKino3Pyro2Linker2 etc. Its actually probably better to go Pyro2 cause I run into a lot of JP immune enemies now and it kinda sucks to tickle them to death.
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>>166392354
PK pendant when?
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>>166392350
Get a group.
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>>166392209
>>166392350
Pyro2or3 Link2 Thaum2
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>>166392817
>Swell an Orange mob
>you have 9 seconds to kill something with 900 hp
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>>166392869
900k*
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>this quest is still broke
They aren't going to fix this kind of things right?
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>>166392817
>>166392869
Karga's build
>something FF
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>>166392869
Thaum2 isnt about swell.
It gives you a lot of M.Att which you need to dmg some R8 shit mobs

>>166392910
if you swell them, you do that when they are almost dead. so they have like no HP left
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>>166392996
honestly any Linker + FF2 is the ideal Orange material farming class since you can decay them to death in groups faster than most other class can in normal time with ZERO equipment requirements
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>>166393108
swell body adds 100% of their original max hp, eg. swelling at 5% makes them have 105%, not 10%
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>>166393380
>decay
how fast/slow is that?
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>>166394272
Not him, but that's still not bad.
Two lv 10 fireballs + links are pretty damn strong if you have thaum 2 and maybe a decent weapon. 110% HP of a rank 8 mob group is still doable with pyro2.
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>>166352405
>Kancolle sailor slut
Anon please. It's
>Archer Sailor when?
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>>166394579
FF's decay will take a monster from 100% hp to literally 1 hp in about 26 seconds. Mind you that all you have to do is poke them with your boner and then eat popcorn and this costs Z E R O silver.

If you want to speed it up you can stack decay effects by going Necro1 for Dirty Pole or go Thaum for Swell Body. Swelling them makes their max hp rise which in turn multiples the decay effect. Once the Swell wears off though, the multiplier doesnt disappear so the decay goes twice as fast.

You can do something like Wiz3Linker2ThaumFF2 or WizPyro2Linker2ThaumFF2 depending on what flavor you like. Both of these are also great at farming the 240 dungeon for silver since you can JP + Swell all the mobs.
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I don't know why they didn't make all class synergy like they did with Murmillo, just make attributes on later classes that modify or improve previous class choices. We could have had greater build flexibility by creating unique cross-class interaction mechanics for nearly every build.
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>>166395281
the game is literally in a beta, just think about how great it'll be two years from now
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>full int mages
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>>166395281
>murmillo
>build flexibility
murm builds are literal railroads
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>>166395540
Not everyone has a stage 10 pract weapon.
And CON is useless in PVE.
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Choose my next build /tosg/

Full INT cleric 2 diev 3 miko pd2
Full CON cleric 2 diev 3 miko pd2
Full INT pyro 3 wiz3 link2
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>>166387321
Originally your old skills were supposed to mostly be replaced as you leveled by your new ones, but IMC has had to go back on that decision because people figured out the concept of "future proofing" by taking all utility classes except the last ranks. So now only some classes have scaling like that because it's unfinished.
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>>166394272
Oh, it didnt do that months ago, but still ok, see >>166394595
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>>166395281
>all class synergy

Tell that to my cor3.
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>>166395607
Full INT pyro 3 wiz3 link2
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Can you trade or team storage pardoner / enchanter scrolls? Or are they auction only?
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>>166395684
just take Shinobi senpai
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>>166395568
I didn't say Murm was flexible, just that it has a mechanic for class-modifying abilities which could in theory be expanded on
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>>166395758
Will do!
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>>166395872
they could also just add more attributes at higher ranks, like say a Pyro attribute you cant get until r8 or something.
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>>166395971
LOOK AT THIS SHIT IMC
FUCKING PAY US
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I wonder what they're even gonna do for r9 and 10, seems really weird to have two circles that arbitrarily cap at 2 and 1 rank.
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>>166396960
r10 is gonna be so strong that the other 9 classes are gonna be support ranks, probably every wizard is gonna be Linker2Chrono3
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>>166396960
Rank 10 will probably be all about hidden classes to justify the one rank only thing
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>>166397709
>every rank 10 class will be as long as the Migo quest
>it will also be competitive
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Barbed Arrow is a real multihit now?
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>>166399269
Yes, but if first arrow doesn't crit, the rest don't either.
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>>166399348
Then it's not a real multhit
Hitting multiple 1s on objects doesn't make it a true multihit, every skill does that now except rush dog
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Facial hair for guys when
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>>166400490
that wouldn't be cute
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Can someone tell me the differences between the three /tosg/ klaipeda guilds? from what I've seen, futureproof seems to have a lot of members and the thread hates them, CnL is competitive in PvE but doesn't get anything done in PvP and cute doesn't seem very relevant (might it be dead?)
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Pyro 2 / Linker 1 or Pyro 3?
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>>166396960

maybe they will simply max current c1 classes, add a few 1 circle secret classes and fix everything else with attributes (i.e attribute alch c3 at r9 to make lv 20 potions, 25 at r10)
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>>166401026
Pyro2 + Linker2

c1 of them are shit
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>>166391992
Cancer never truly dies it just lies dormant for a while and waits for a new host to latch on to
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>>166401097
That's not an option. So pyro 3 I guess.
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>>166401203
No. Pyro without Linker is shit.
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>>166401026
Link1 and get a Dandel Gem.
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ideal critical rate for fencers?
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>>166401203
Pyro without link is pure shit.
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>>166401002
Futureproof has the last amount of memebers.
CuteNotLewd has the most memebers and is the strongest.
cute has has more memebers and is stronger than Futureproof
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>>166401002
>even the newfags bully cute
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/just-achieved-the-pinnacle-of-the-games-current-content-telsiai/345990/4

>no miko
Huehuheuheu
Flavor of the months miko pd2 meta fags btfo
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>>166401852
It's quite obvious that it's a FP bait post, just read at the descriptions of the guilds
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>>166401964
>the main dps has stage 10 weapon and stage 6 armor
AYYYYYYYYYY
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>>166401002
>futureproof seems to have a lot of members
No, it's almost dead.
>CnL is competitive in PvE but doesn't get anything done in PvP
CnL is one of the top ranking PvP guilds on the server and has more members than FP.
>cute doesn't seem very relevant
cute ranks much than FP in PvP and has just about as many members.
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>>166401002
>CnL is competitive in PvE
What does this even mean?
How do you compete in PvE?
The only PvE competition would be clearing solmiki before anyone else and CnL are no where near that, last I heard they had one group that was doing 25f
Crimson would probably be the first klai guild to clear it, then lotus, then some other normie guilds then maybe CnL?
I wouldn't call that competitive.
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>>166402015
So will every group that clears 40f it's pretty much a requirement with the dps checks
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>guild baitposting
>works everytime
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>>166401964
kriv3diev3tao
pyro1link3chrono3
ele3lock2
cata3goon2
diev3priest1oracle1pd1

>Ele3Lock2
>no Pyro3
>no Miko
>no Doppel
>no SR
meta fags b t f oooo
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>>166401964

I know a guy who constantly got #1 with the cleric 2 diev 3 oracle kabba inq build

he felt for the lank leset meme with miko and now barely get a 20-30
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>>166402357
thats one of the reaso ET is absolute trash, even more than ever now.
Getting anything over Stage6 is insane and game shouldn't be balanced around Srage10 cancer trascendence but gooks never learn
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>>166403290
It works because it's made by ohayou subhumans just to shit on FP.
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>>166403491
>diev3priest1oracle1pd1
The hell

>>166402357
Looking how shit their party composition is a good one should require far less investment.
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>>166403790
Res and Dispel?
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>there are people in this thread without their orange weapon already at stage10
LMAO
HAVE FUN QUESTING IN RANK 9 BASICALLY NAKED
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>>166403892
>dispel
>when you can just buy dispellers
>when he is a PD already anyway
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>>166403290
It works because it's made by FP subhumans just to shit on ohayou.
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>>166403958
but i'm a fencer
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>>166404116
That's why all the replies are "FP is dead, FP is shit. CnL is best. CnL is top guild."
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>>166404134
Get your Chrono alt on 40F farming for the rapier retard :^)
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Make sure to do all your chores early, guys.
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>>166404134
>>166404250
This
>>166404253
Also this
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>>166404253
don't tell me what to do!!!!!!!!!
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>>166403958
>what is decay
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>>166404486
>implyning it will help agaist anything rank9
Nigga the quest boss will have 2 billion hp and hits for 70k.
You can't run away from the need of stage10 gear
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>>166404486
Something 80% of r9 monsters will be immune to.
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>>166404653
Stage10 gear won't help when I already hit the damage cap without it and am immune to melee. Party with a sage and fuck you.
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>lv 350 white weapons with squire buff +stage 3 will outdps stage 10 orange memers

can't wait
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>>166404848
just wait for r9 whites :^)
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>>166404250
>>166404418
I've yet to see any Fencers with Lolopanther Rapier, even.
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>>166404887
>white weapons
Nice meme, we are getting some "welfare" purple weapon somehow harder to make than 330 orange and 4 months into rank9 the orange autism gear will be released
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Divine stigma's bonus should be changed to this:

(15 + (7*SkillLv) + (0.3*CasterSPR)) * (1.1^TargetRank)

Prove me wrong!
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>>166404887
Just like all that 270 white gear we got, right?
https://tos.neet.tv/items?ulvlmin=270&grade=1&f=1
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>>166403491
You can make anything good if you invest enough silver into it but people are retarded and just reroll every time a patch comes out, throw away all the silver they invested on their old char, and then get the new char up to where they are doing Saal+290 and repeat forever.
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>>166404960
Because farming lolopanther weapons was the most retarded bulldhit ever, dropping a Fencer to reroll and gear up 2-3 new characters is arguably faster.
Solmiki weapons are even more retarded but u like lolopanther they will be farmed because we have people like SovietHammer cheesing Solmiki with their credit cards
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>>166404223
and its true. CNL beat FP. FP didnt beat CNL. FP didnt beat anyone.
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FP and CNL are basically the same guild outside of GBL. The members play together sometimes and they're both tosg.

>le FP is not tosg memes xD

In GBL I think CNL is better but FP is starting to try? I have characters in both, but I GBL with CNL, so I don't really know what FP is doing there.

CNL has more people online but not really more activity. Most of the numbers are afk farmers.
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>>166405563
FP gets farmed by Crimson/Lotus/Alpha 4 times a week.
CnL farms cute and other casual 2-man guilds all day every day.

Both will get steamrolled by the actual top guilds.
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>>166406372
there are only 3~4 afk farmers in cnl out of 10~25 people online daily
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>>166406508
So cute is a farm guild?
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>>166406508
This is pretty accurate, FP has no idea when to queue or they don't care (unlikely).
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>>166406756
>FP has no idea when to queue or they don't care (unlikely).
FP can only queue 2 days a week: friday and saturday, probably the 2 busiest gbl days.
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>>166406621
Well you're right, CNL does have more active players, I understated that part. Cats' whoring desperation for members is evidence of that too, though personally I think the activity of FP is pretty much fine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohg95xgx6eI

this is the power of a lolopanther fencer

>MUH WEAK BOSSES

dude, fencer ignore monster def always with coquille so everything is just a hp sponge
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>>166406508
>FP gets farmed by Crimson/Lotus/Alpha 4 times a week.
so does CNL

>CnL farms cute and other casual 2-man guilds all day every day.
not true
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>>166406863
Well that explains it I guess. That's pretty shitty for them though.
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>>166406881
>Cats' whoring desperation for members
But Cats doesn't even know why he wants members. He has NO IDEA what he's doing in this game. Nobody even asked him to recruit randoms from shout.
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>>166401002
>cute ranks in GBL and running ET daily but no one shitposts about cute so we must be dead
hidoi
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>>166407032
What else can you expect from shitposting?
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>>166407032
If you post someone bullyable as Shorte you can't pretend much
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>>166406891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTKF7CXvX7c

>Attaque Composee hitting for 50k x2 while Spear Lunge was up, 27k x2 afterwards
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>>166407032
cute > FP
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I miss Iuck
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Just finished the alchememe 3 quest; I'll never forget all those spawn kills.
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>>166407979
Wait nevermind, this was before they got their Lolopanther Rapier too.
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>>166406912
>CNL farms cute
Not by choice. We really want to win. We even did a few times in the past, but CNL just has us beat on the power curve right now.
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>>166408546
cnl vs cute donjon when
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>>166408049
>Not ERPing with luck on steam daily
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>>166408776
I would give anything to have luck bash my head in with a cinder block until im a writhing mass of semi recognisable flesh .
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>>166407980
This.
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>>166409042
That's an interesting fetish you have there
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>>166409813
I just want to die anon. This game has sucked away my zeal for life and in its placed left an emptiness that can only be filled by cute girls and laughing at FP
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>>166406508
CnL has fought cute 3 times in the last month, if not longer.
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>>166410203
And being bashed in the head with a cinder block, apparently
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>>166402194
Solmiki is 5 man, faggot, not a guild event. Go back to wow.
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>>166406372
CnL beat FP some 40-10 two nights ago lmao

CnL can put up a fight against Crimson/Lotus at least, though ultimately they would lose. CnL could possibly beat Alpha, but it's highly unlikely with only 2 dievs and I think no psyko/cryo
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>>166413548
He literally said CNL is better. FP's problem is too many players are overly focused on builds and shit when the reality is too much of FP is running on bargain bin armor and low attributes.
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>>166413250
I don't even play wow but I'm pretty sure raids are not guild events either, but at the higher levels of PvE guilds are always preferable over pugs.

So anyway you are right, solmiki is 5man and doesn't require a guild, how does that make CnL competitive in PvE exactly?
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>>166413931
CnL (and apparently cute) have guild parties for ET. FP dont.

CnL also did (and will do again) guild raids
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>>166413931
The raids are literally guild raids that require a high level guild level.
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>>166413916
The other problem is no damage.
The other problem is getting 15 people online.

FP has a lot of GBL problems.
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>Memehammer drops from Lv50 Dungeon Cube
What the fuck I farmed that shit for hours.
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>>166413548
>lmao
Just get fucked already ohayoutarded autist.
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>>166414696
Join now or whatever i dont care
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>>166414362
>>166414373
ToS guild raids?
Please tell me you are joking
There is no tactics or mechanics involved, it can hardly be considered as PvE content
Yes they require a guild to actual do, but where's the competative aspect
I guess CnL are the only people who do them because no one else bothers??
Nice competition you have there being the only competitor must make things real exciting

And having one or two ET parties doesn't make you competitive, unless your party is aiming to be one of the first to clear it, which I highly doubt any tosg group will be.
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>>166414874
>unless your party is aiming to be one of the first to clear it
Retard
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>>166414696
There's no need for that. It's a matter of actually queueing whenever possible just to land in the top 10.
Rank 5-10 gives you almost nothing in terms of TP but it's easy to get there if you actually queue.
FP pretty much doesn't GvG. Plus terrible luck in terms of matchups and other bugs (started the season at 950 points, druid telepath abuse, etc).
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>>166414874
Its still PvE content. And others dont do it.
FP does not even have people for it.

>competitive..
noone cares
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>>166414696
FP has damage now, people are just too weak and die too quickly. If FP gets linked they instantly die because at least one person will have lmaozerodefense and cause everybody else to explode.
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>>166415115
More like cats decides to physical link himself and his guild
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>>166415095
>Its still PvE content.
Nobody cares dumb retard. Nobody cares about wasting time and money on HP sponges for NO REASON.

And you don't need a guild to do ET. Just the right class. And being in a guild doesn't guarantee you an ET party anyway.
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>>166415095
FP cleared the guild raid just the other day after GBL. They got Talt.

>>166414874
Please leave.
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>>166415221
>guild raid
>talt
you mean the hamster dungeon?
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>>166414790
lmao I'm not even in CnL retard
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>>166415221
He's talking about the actual guild raids not the hamsters. To do the real guild raids you need Ausrine+melstis+dps with glass moles and good attributes.
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>>166415221
LP-FP or neoFP?

>>166415219
>Nobody cares dumb retard. Nobody cares about wasting time and money on HP sponges for NO REASON.
nice excuses
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>>166415319
So, cuckgarden?
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>>166415221
>>166415276
>>166415324
>FP cleared the guild raid just the other day after GBL. They got Talt.
>Hamsters
lmao. nice try neoFP
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>>166415456
You don't get talt from guild raids retard.
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>>166414776

the whole weapon or just the recipe
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>>166415276
>>166415324
>>166415456
You must be right. I'm not in FP but I saw it mentioned elsewhere.
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>>166414874
>There is no tactics or mechanics involved, it can hardly be considered as PvE content
Are you serious? You obviously haven't done any guild raids besides hamster. The timed DPS check and the infinite add spawning CC spamming boss are no jokes.
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>>166414874
>"wahhhh i could do it any time i just don't want to"
good bait, take your (You)
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>>166415553
>>166415221
Hamsters had already been old and piss easy in summer16
Karga literally solo'd that shit a dozen times. Others duo'd it.

We talking about the real raids >>166415324
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>>166415535
You get the whole weapon. It's kinda rare but 50 dung also is a cheap way to get cards.
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Ohayou cancer is getting out of control. What are you even gaining from doing this.
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FP cancer is getting out of control. What are you even gaining from doing this.
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>>166415535

Whole weapon.

190 dungeon also drops all 3 level 220 armor sets. Ibre, Elkosh and Grynas. All fully made but Grynas is rare as fuck and it'd be cheaper to buy it than reroll until you get it.

190 and 200 also drops all the didel recipes and 200 drops didel tower shield recipe fairly often (I've been farming it, easy few million a day per character).
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>>166415765
>What are you even gaining from doing this
Cool kids don't follow rules m8 :^)
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>>166414874
CnL is at least competitive in gear, attributes, Blut, and fielding 15+ level 300+ players at almost any time of the day. The guild is extremely active, though only some of them do GBL since not many are into PvP
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>>166415832
See >>166404223
You already did this non-joke. Not the first time I see this unexplainable parroting.
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>Game is so shit we have to stir drama among ourselves for any stimulation
>>
>FP retards still blame the Ohayou boogeyman when in reality they're just the laughing stock of /tosg/
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>Ohayou retards still blame the FP boogeyman when in reality they're just the laughing stock of /tosg/
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>>166415683
>>166415845

nice
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Yeah, let's all make it look like it's just some funny friendly shitposting.

But cancer will always be cancer, and you can see how it affects and infects other perfectly fine guilds.
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>>166415938
>All these retarded posts by mad fags
>This the only decent one

Thanks for actually saying something of substance
Honestly I was just trying to figure out how a guild can be considered competitive in PvE on ToS since there isn't really an active raiding scene or anyone competing for world/server firsts.
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>>166416343
No, I can't see. No /tosg/ players are cancer, they are all pleasant. Stop shitposting.
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>>166416818
Almost true, there's at least 2 exceptions.
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>>166416798
>since there isn't really an active raiding scene or anyone competing for world/server firsts.
So, that post has no substance. There's no competition in PvE except for ET rush.

That post is a CnL post. But of course it says "some of them" instead of "some of us" to make it look less biased.
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Does your gohei progress ( I just need the prayer left) reset after maintenance?
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>>166417153
No. But the prayer count in Orsha does reset.
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>>166417101
Swaaz and ?
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>>166417153
>>166417269
Stop talking about the game. Its guild circlejerk hour. For fucks sake.
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>>166417443
( Y o u )
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>>166417463
retard
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>>166417153
Praying takes around 2,5h and it resets after maint.
Do it tomorrow.
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How come jTos has Hunting Grounds already?
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>>166417685
because they're east asian like koreans and not seamonkies or white piggu
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>>166417685
iTOS is the unwanted child of IMC. We get everything last and worse and less.
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>>166403290
CnL was the first to clear the lv10 guild raid in Klai, back when it was a challenge since r8 wasn't a thing yet. It was more of a thing to get people motivated to run good builds and clear content together rather than for bragging. Same thing with the lv11 4min dps check, a lot of us have really well-funded characters now thanks to that. The rewards are trash though, I can see why other guilds don't want to do them after CnL already claimed first.
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>>166417685
Son of a dick, I knew it. They had a preview banner up for it already but I guess Nexon lit that fire under IMC's ass, while IMC decided naaaah itos doesn't need it yet.
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>>166417820
oops
>>166416798
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>>166417269
>>166417642
Thank you
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You have 4 hours to upgrade your attributes anon
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>>166418649
>misinfo
maint is in 1hr and a half
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>>166418649
But I'm banned!
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>>166418859
>21:00 to 05:00 (EST) January 23-24, 2017

The hell? Why is maintenance so long for only Survival Event?
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>>166419329
They're sneaking the balance patch and free dungeons in too
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>>166419329
It's longer so we can use new emoticons in guild/party chat.
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>>166407032
you can literally lose 4 games in a row and still rank in the top 10
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>>166419384
Don't get my hopes up anon, patch notes already shot them down.

They wouldn't omit those from the patch notes anyways.
>>
So right now I have a Pyro2>Link1>Thaum1, should I go Alch3 for personal pots/roasts or continue the DPS build?
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Should I just transcend my corona rod?
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>>166418859
>>166418873

WHAT THE FUCK

OK I'M CONFUSED WITH ALL THIS THING

HOW MANY HOURS I HAVE EXACTLY

I WAS HERE CLEANING DUNGEONS WHILE EATING SNACKS LOL
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>>166420735
You have 1 hour now.
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>>166420735
just wait for the big message across the server lol
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>>166420694

No, don't be silly.

If you cannot farm a red 315 weapon, just get a purple 315 instead. They're easy to farm and the difference isn't that huge.
>>
Has anyone ever been happy playing Tree of Savior?

Other than Healmage.
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>>166420860
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>>166420854
I don't have practoniums for a purple weapon.
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>>166420860
me!
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>>166420841

ok, thanks
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>>166420860
me!
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>>166420860
me!
>>
>>166420860
me!
>>
>>166413548
>>166415319
And CnL got stomped one-sidedly by Crimson the other night. Nice try.
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>>166421632
nigga stop replying to ohayoutards
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holy shit the things I put in the market ain't showing up

I need some more millions KIM PLEASE
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Is it worth resetting into an afk farming necro nowadays?
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>>166420860
I was the first couple days of the beta
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>>166422140

I don't think so

you can always reset into a dungeon farmer like linker 2 thauma 2 for 145/240 clears
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>>166422683
If you can't take the overheat get out of the cockatrice
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>>166422140
Not really.
Spawn is worse than before and there's so many necros that you will probably end up standing on someone. Also people like to kill necros with oracles.
If you want to make some silver just make a WL2 for active farming or some linker-thauma for 145 full clear.
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>>166422790
The chicken outfit chose ME
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>>166420967
then get your cube and roll it, its free
>>
I heard everyone in CuteNotLewd is a bully that skips the miko line!
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>>166423236
Let me suck on your juicy breasts and nibble on your tender thighs
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>>166420860
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>>166423441
I need the pract for an orange weapon on another character :^)
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>>166423729
Maybe this maintenance will add the missing recipe for the new quests!
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>>166423891
Maybe they will also unfuck my expired unstable cube
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So, no meetup?
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>>166424195
I'm rushing for last minute silver and attributes.
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>>166424195
I guess
>>
BUY YOUR ATTRIBUTES NOW

SELL YOUR TALT
>>
I WANT TO MAKE MONEY WHAT IS THE FASTEST WAY OF DOING THAT
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>>166424869
RMT
>>
>>166424869
linker thaum swelling in 240 dungeon is pretty comfy desu

600k in 15~20 minutes
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>>166424869
ERP
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>>166424960
145 also works, I solo it with my 175ish thauma, 700k per run, but takes a while.
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>>166425754
Not him but the 240 is way faster.
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Both of my cubes right now.
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>>166424869
MMO TANK
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>want to buy maid costume
>IMC removes it from TP shop and puts it in capsule
>IMC removes capsules
>never any on the market
How to meido
>>
>>166424009
don't you have to get unbanned first Katz?
>>
>6PM maintenance

What the fuck is that
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RIP
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Can any of my alchememe sisters show me how to make my very own butt naked blue fairy?
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ded gam
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>>166426267
buy hats or other items from gachas and exchange them for medals
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>>166426308
It's 9, stop being upside down.
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Dead meetup
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composee 50 -> 80
balestra 30 -> 50
au fer 30 -> 40
sept etoiles 40 -> 70
lunge 30 -> 50

circling expand: 7 -> 15
multishot 50 -> 70
broom trap 40 -> 50
flare shot 30 -> 50

psychic pressure 50 -> 70
gravity pole 50 -> 70

thanks kim
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>Emote Plus: Popolion can now be used on Party and Guild chats.

game saved
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>>166426443
>too busy dueling just below the screenshot
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>>166425892
I know, just in case he wants an option before he is 240 since time is a concern. He can farm the 145 until 240.
No reason to use dungeon runs to exp with missions giving 5 levels or something dumb with x8 tomes.
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>9pm
>no more ToS for the rest of the night
can we just let the general die?
>>
how long will maint last?
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>>166426494
How long does your fencer take to clear 240 brother? I like having clear times to compare with
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>>166426417
>she thinks alchekikes share their secrets
LOL
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>>166426715
>Maintenance Period
>21:00 to 05:00 (EST)
It's 9 right now so 8 hours if I can math
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>>166426717
who the fuck clears 240 when i can clear 290
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>>166426715
Forever.

You are free. Go outside.
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>>166426891

I was outside though
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>>166426887
240 gives more silver and takes less time. Nobody but whales care about that "cardboard cube" crap.
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>>166426494
Swell left arm 0 > 50
Swell right arm 25 > 50

Fireball 40 > 75
Flame Ground 35 >75
Fire Pillar 30 > 55
Swell left arm 25 >50

Magic Arrow 0 > 50
Broadhead 0 > 40
Barbed Arrow 0 > 40

Owls 50 > 75
Hayama 0 > 70
Incineration 0 > 85
Black Death Stream 0 > 70 (Jesus fucking Christ this was expensive)

We should have sales more often desu.
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>>166426967
Fucking Cats.
>>
>>166426717

Hello fencerbro. I don't use my fencer to farm the 240 dungeon, I do it with my falconer sapper (much more comfy, less sp usage and well, everything on 240 is cloth so...). I do it in 20 minutes (including the boss). Will be better faster I get my practo weapon.

But I do the 290 with her when I'm on a good farming mood. It's not a full clear (I skip the mage room because fuck you kim). Not sure how fat I do this 290 "clear", I usually alt tab a lot and shit but I'll try to record tomorrow.

How long it takes for oyu to do a 240 clear? which build? S3 builds have a hard time there I think (barb is amazing for that one).
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>>166426710
just think of it as extended shitposting window
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>>166426494
Dethrone 0 -> 50
Serpentine 0 -> 30
Dragon Soar 0 -> 30
Dragontooth 0 -> 30
Spear Throw 0 -> 50
Pierce 0 -> 50
Stabbing 0 -> 50
Earth Wave 0 -> 50
Steed Charge 0 -> 50

Multishot 0 -> 70
Barrage 0 -> 60

Microdimension: Duplicate
Ultimate Dimension: Enlarged Magic Circle

Hamaya 0 -> 30
Cure 0 -> 70
Heal 0 -> 70

Fuck, this isn't even half of what I wanted to do. I was too busy buying cute costumes for my characters.
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>>166420860
I was happy until after the first week of TBL. Then I realized the game was absolutely pointless with nothing to look forward to either in PvE or PvP.
And I still continued to play to this day ;_;
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>>166427002

>that damage boom when you level all the thauma attributes at the same time + some from the dps skills and go testing

also, lol, you got almost 12m in discount only from PD skills, impressive
>>
>>166427207

I got some great deals thanks to this attributes madness. I mean, ok 20% less for attributes but lol, I bought a lot of shit for 20~40% of their usual price so it's ok in the end
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>>166426417
I've made it a point to piss off all other alchejews, so here.
>>
>Finally raised the fuck out of my magic arrow attribute
Am I gonna love or regret this after maint
>>
>>166427817
Have you posted this on the forum for extra alchemist anger?
>>
>>166428038
inb4 nerfed into the ground
>>
>>166291860
we zombie game now?
>>
>>166428038
is there any point in playing an archer that isnt SR3 in this meta?
>>
>>166427817
how were you ever supposed to discover this without digging through data files?
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>>166428215
whisper korasai
>>
>>166428146
>Bringing zombies into this will actually end up being a huge advantage
>For the first time ever, zombie bokors won't be shat on

I can dream, can't I?
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>>166428272
but I whisper her everyday
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>>166427817
Thanks alchesister
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>>166395684
Take Fencer, Fencer3Corsair3 will be godly.
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>>166428127
>>166427817
this and post results
>>
>>166395281

they eventually will


>>166395540

missile hole + aspersion + 4x yellow gems = well' lad no need for con 1 damage everywhere
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WE'RE BACK, SONS OF BITCHES.
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>>166428127
>>166428679

Wait, the forumjews are seriously trying to keep it a secret?
>>
>>166428729
tower falling in 5...
>>
>>166428798
No retard. MO recipes are known since even before itos got r8. It was posted several times on the forums.
>>
>>166428857
Fuck of, sparn.
>>
>>166428729
Ohayou when?
>>
>>166428809
We're still gathering everyone who left and recruiting new members, so we'll be on neutral this week.
>>
>>166428215
Define meta.
>>
>>166428238
git gud
>>
>>166428679
>>166428798
Oh I looked it up and no, they're not. Would've expected them to though.

God, that alchemist pricewar dude was an ass back then.
>>
>>166426494

Heal 0 - 80
Cure 0 -> 80
Owls 0 ->80
Hamaya 0 -> 85
Gohei 0 -> 50
Incinerate 0 ->85
Black Steam 0 -> 60

Heal 85 ->95
Cure 85 ->95

Shield Bash 50 -> 70
Shooting Star 50 -> 75
Targe Smash 50 -> 60
Headbutt 50 -> 55
Scutum 50 ->55

Stabbing 0 -> 50
Rush 0 -> 50
Serpentine 0 -> 50
Dragon tooth 0 -> 40
Dethrone 0 -> 50

Snipe 0 -> 40
Covering Fire 0 -> 40

Fireball 0 -> 65
Ground 0 -> 55
Pillar 0 -> 60
Hellbreath 0 ->55
Firewall 0 -> 55

I think a few more that I can't recall atm, really wish I worked harder now that it's over but attris can always be bought so I don't see it as a huge deal.
>>
7173:
You talked about instances earlier. In Ragnarok Online, PVE and boss fights are all in the fields. Will Tree of Savior be any different?

Kim Seyong:
The instances in Tree of Savior are also in the fields. We are open world. The instances are unlike traditional MMORPG where it is a closed and separated. Players can go fight the boss alone or party up to five members to fight boss together.

Because of the open world design, one boss raids can support up to 200 players at once. Each party can only have maximum of five members. Even though you cannot party with the rest of 195 players, but there will be some kind of interaction between players.
>>
>>166429578
we cant even support 20 people on one channel lmao
>>
What the fuck why is maint now
>>
>>166429749
because Kim Hakyuu literally doesnt want you to be playing his game
>>
>>166429749
It's also 8 hours long!
>>
>>166429578

wolfknights will fix this
>>
>>166429336
>>
>>166429947
Man fuck, I was putting off using one of my compensation dungeon reset scrolls and it's going to expire

I mean it's not a huge deal but fuck
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>>166429336
>Futureproof let this faggot in
>He fucking posts here
>>
Umm why do monsters even have spells like quicken and swell body when monster attacks all count as skills and monsters don't get loot?
>>
>>166430359
I am sure that the developer who gave them those skills does not realize that all monster attacks are skills.

This type of disorganization is the only way to explain tree of savior as a whole.
>>
Kim Se-Young:
In boss battles, we are trying to avoid scenarios where “certain party setups are required to beat the boss”. You’ll be able to win with many different combinations of classes.
>>
Well, with this patch I'm done with the game for a while. Thanks for all the fun /tosg/. I'll check back in in a couple months.
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>There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha/Fedimian, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.

Now Silute have one, Lewd is back with a new templer, if you wanna Join whisper our leader Nanaumi or Legio and Pokart.
>>
>>166430359
what exactly is the point of a monster casting swell body on you anyway?
>>
>>166430832
Remind so OP add it next thread
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>>166430873
The monster follows it up with percentage based damage skills like Twist of Fate and Featherfoot's bone knife skill.

Loljk it's pointless and somebody randomly gave it some Thaum skills because "it's a mage I guess"
>>
>>166424487
>>166426432
How do you keep playing the game when everyone around you slowly but surely fades away in to nothingness, doesn't it make your heart ache just to log on
All the people you've had fun with have moved on to better things, why haven't you, why can't you move on anon, it's just a game, let it go
>>
>>166431120
Why are you here then anon?
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>>166430832
Good luck, BRos!
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>>166431120
Y-Yamero!
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>yfw
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>>166429578
How to blatantly lie like that and not get sued. Channels can only go up to 100 people anyway if you remember the seed event correctly.
>>
>>166430832

>lewd

My cutie is too pure to join this
>>
>>166431291
Thanks Kim!
>>
>>166431342
>girls
>pure

Not even in 2D, m8.
>>
>>166431120
All people that I used to play with still plays.
But why are you still here if you don't play anymore? Maybe you should let it go.
>>
Q9: How is the PvP system?
imcGAMES: We will have a normal Player vs Player, Guild vs Guild and other methods such as Colonies vs Colonies. That is the information I can reveal at the moment, more information will be revealed later in the future.

wtf is Colonies vs Colonies
>>
>>166431291
Do you like hurting people?
>>
>>166431301
Because that was like pre beta talk. This game has a lot of ideas that got discarded because they either weren't feasible due to technical limitations or players balked at it being too grindy. You can tell when the developers switched from the sandboxy to WoW mindset due to players too, it happens after Royal Mausoleum.

Pre Royal Maus:
>Hats to farm
>Rare items that stay useful throughout the leveling process such as Sage Wall,Vubbe Fighter Gloves, and Brandish
>High mob density
>Mobs with variety of skills

Then you look at post Royal Maus

>No more hats, hats are now gacha
>Best items come almost exclusively from Dungeons
>Mobs fewer in number but stronger (this gets better on some r8 maps density wise but the mobs stay absurdly strong)
>Daily gimmicks added to many maps with poorly thought through rewards
>>
>>166431208
>>166431459
I'm waiting for (you) to come join me
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>>166431492
>Colonies vs Colonies
>>
New thread when? Also, don't forget to add >>166430832 to the OP.
>>
>>166431836
You mean doing nothing all day but shitposting in thread about game you don't play anymore?
>>
>>166431890
SIEG ZEON
>>
>>166431963
I play other better games anon
I just stop by the thread now and then because I miss you all and want you to come be happier with me, trust me without the commander bullying me and having instances capacity failes the grass looks greener everyday
>>
Move: >>166432260
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>>166432290
And what other games do you play anon?
>>
>>166431120
>doesn't it make your heart ache just to log on
nope, playing since EA, still have fun and lots of short and long term goals to look forward to.
most of the people I've had fun with are still playing, some quit obviously, but i get to know someone new every week too.
if you don't have fun, then it's time to move on
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