/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

Pizza OP is cute!

>20-30 fps in the first area
>in 1360x760 res on 1080p monitor
Why am i doing this to myself
should i just uninstall because it'll go down to 10 fps in later areas?

>>166192047
Reduce internal resulution.

why is point down the lastest meme? did edgy reddit kids from memeshades started forcing it as a meme lately?

>>166192224
What do you mean? I already set the game to 760.

>>166192229
Yukas pls.

For the anon looking for tips on his lothric knight sword/faith build:
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/137697
Here, offensive miracles are only good at atleast 40 faith+spellboosting ring. Also, you can't buff lightning weapons, so its sharp now. Sacred oath and blessed weapon will work well with the lingering dragoncrest ring. You can choose your own armor but you can carry a little less than before. Ring of the sun princess will add some regen in addition to the blessed weapon buff. Saint bellvine chime is for faster casting speed since your miracles don't scale with faith.

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>>166192229
Heh... You wanna know the real story, kid?

Look.. I been doin' this for a while now.. Invading.. Killing.. Taunting.. There's no better feeling than outplaying your opponent, not only mentally, but physically. First you strip him of his confidence. Then you crush his pride. And.. What comes next.. heh..

That's when you taunt. The fight isn't over until you point down at his lifeless body. You shatter his morality, and twist his emotions until they snap- all with one gesture.

You ever seen a grown man cry? Not out of pain... No. Far, far worse than that. When you see a man shed tears after what he thought could only be done in fiction becomes reality.. then you'll understand. You'll understand my desire to point down.. You'll understand my desire to attack while they bow.. And my desire to embed these moments of misery into them forever.

It's not about being malicious.. It's about making a point.. People like you- people who blindly follow your 'code'.. heh.. You never understand...

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is the painter going to finish that painting in DLC 2?

>>166192347
Soulless what the fuck is your problem

>>166192229
*points down*

>>166192360
You do realize she's going to die in the fire?

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>>166192603

>>166192360
I'm going to paint her face with my semen

>>166192787
How do we know she isn't beyond the scope of that sort of thing?

any good guides on how to make a good-looking female character in DKS3? all my attempts end up in lumpy plain janes

>>166192998
Cute?

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>>166193096

>>166192968
Because Ariandel himself died just fine.

The painting is deteriorating, and now the fire is uncontrollable.

Also there are no happy endings in Souls games

>>166187227
My problem isn't winning "duels" while invading, it's that I was constantly invading people who were just sitting by the bonfire and summoning in duels, instead of people who were actually trying to run through the area. Maybe I was just invading at bad times, or is there some sort of weird ettiquette that people expect while in those areas?

I'm pretty sure SL30 isn't too high for Cathedral or Farron Keep though.

>>166193343
You're probably right, but I still wish there was some clarity on how the whole painted world thing works at all.

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>>166191776
>red
>not purple

What is the funnest unique weapon in the DS3?

My first playtrough was pure-dex and I just used katanas the whole time, and that was frankly quite boring, I want to play the game with a really interesting weapon next.

Maybe an interesting weapon and magic, pyromancy or faith

>>166193883
Crow Quills.

>>166192229
it became /dsg/ meme for some reason

>>166193967
The pasta was bery good

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>>166192360

>>166193920
I forgot to mention, I already used crow quills and the crow talons, but I got them quite late in the game, so I only used them against Friede really.

The throwing dagger gimmick of the quills is interesting for a dex weapon, it's still mostly a rapier. I'll play more with it in New game +, when I bother continuing with my dex character.

Is relying on blocking to survive in pve in DaS3 still viable or is it all dodgerolls?

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>>166192360

>>166194338
There are some bosses that are made easier by blocking, but the thing is, the investment to make that into all you do is not worth it in my opinion.

Shields are good, but I wouldn't rely on them as your only defense, as there are enemies that can just chomp trough your stamina.

>>166194346
So, is she Priscilla's daughter?

>>166194338
It definitely makes parts of PVE much easier, especially mobs but also certain bosses (a good enough shield/greatshield can block the entirety of some of Champ's combos, or make Nameless King's second phase a joke, etc.). You definitely still need to get good at rolling though, since even mobs will start doing shield bashes to break your guard, and beating bosses without a shield feels way more satisfying than just standing there and taking it. "Investing" into blocking isn't a huge deal anyways unless you're using a shield that requires Twinkling or Scales, just make sure you prioritize your weapon first and foremost.

>>166194820
No one knows because Miyasucky doesn't care. Painter and Yorshka need more backstory, but won't get any knowing FROM.

>>166194820
>dragon eyes
>dragon scales
>refers to her mother and her intimate knowledge of the painted world and how it works
>priscilla was a dragon halfbreed
>priscilla inhabited a painted world

All indications point to yes.

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Am I cute?

Which fights have the best presentation? Ignore the mechanics, even if the fight plays like absolute ass.

Which fights have that perfect blend of story, atmosphere and music that makes it an enjoyable experience, even if the boss fight itself is kind of ass?

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>>166195031

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So I've been gone from PVP for a long time now, trying to get back in it.

I hear FS was nerfed and Washing pole is new FOTM? Anything else noteworthy in patches? Are UGS still strong?

>>166193484
>>166191776
what's this

>>166195609
The latest forced normie meme, ignore it.

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What are the implications of this image?

>>166195147
Ivory King, Sinh the dragon, Gaping dragon, Deacons of the deep

>>166195609
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Andrei_Karlov

>>166195650
no, i mean what's the story? assassination?

>>166195147
Gwyn, Nameless king, Artorias.

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I've completed the game and the DLC, I want to focus on multiplayer now, I've been trying invasions on some maps and I have problems to find host sometimes, there's any indicator to find it?

what about the covenant items? which one should I use?

I heard I should stop leveling at 120 for pvp, is that correct?

>>166195147
DaS1: Arguably everything but BoC, but Sif, Gwyn, Artorias, Manus and Kalameet are pretty kickass.

DaS2: Pursuer, all of the Old Ones, LKG, Donger Man, Sinh, Alonne, Burnt Ivory King, Aldia.

DaS3: It'd be easier to name the ones that didn't look awesome, the problem is that a lot of them like Abyss Watchers, Yhorm and Wyvern play like ass.

After gwynn I can choose weather to go to NG++ or stay in NG+. If I chose to stay, would i never be able to proceed to NG++?

>>166195428
>FS was nerfed
yes, AR at +10 is not very good now
>washing pole is new FOTM
unzipping wp is nothing new, a godlike running r1 would do that to any weapon
>UGS still strong
>still
>Anything else noteworthy
poise multipliers got reworked, you now need a certain number of poise to armor through attacks, depending on the poise multiplier your weapon gives you vs the poise damage multiplier on your opponent's weapon

tumblebuffing is back, you can do shit like use embers as an invader to heal 100% or put resin on unbuffable weapons

dart-casting is new tech

>>166195653
sauce

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why is das1 the only game without a fall damage reduction item

>>166195947
because unlike the Bearer of the Curse and the Unkindled One, the Chosen Undead decided to not skip leg day

>>166195906
>tumblebuffing is back, you can do shit like use embers as an invader to heal 100% or put resin on unbuffable weapons
You forgot to mention the one about using tumblebuffing to invade boss rooms.

>>166195897
Killing Gwyn always pushes you to the next NG. There's no choice.

>>166195996
seriously
>cat ring
>silvercat rings
>beast
where the fuck is 1's, miyazaki

>>166195848
Kalameet's presentation is pretty kickass if you include hawkeye shooting him down as part of it

Places to invade? SL80 +7 Irithyll is full of gankers

>>166196232
desu that's more like gough's presentation

>>166196006
WAIT WHAT
HOW
I NEED TO KNOW

>>166195906
Could be interesting, tumblebuffing a gundyrs might be broken. Can this even work on like MLGS and shit?

what's dart casting?

>>166195653
Posting cropped porn will result in a longer ban than normal.

>>166196241
>+7
+7 has the same invasion range as +8, since +10 weapons can be invaded by things farther down the chain to compensate for lack of upward range.

>>166196321
cast any* spell in the game using farron dart's animation

crazy feats include, but are not limited to:
>CMW buff to MLGS
>bountiful sunlight dart
>instant WotG darts
>chaos dart vestiges

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e0VoEs59TI

using it may weaken links to other worlds, and may increase chances of getting cursed

So from the original """heroes""" of DaS1...

>Gywn died and his soul is forever guarding the flame
>His first son turned into a dragonfucker hollow and was killed by the Ashen One after an eternity of solitude
>Gywndolin was raped/eaten by Aldrich
>Gywnevere married some dude and pumped out babies, died happy most likely

>Artorias became corrupted by the Abyss and was laid to rest by the Chosen Undead
>Ornstein followed Gwyn's firstborn and died, but his legend lived on to the point where his armour is everywhere
>Cirian gave up fighting after the death of Artorias and died while guarding Artorias's grave alongside Sif
>Sif got wrecked by the Chosen Undead
>Gough got imprisoned and did not fight again

>Witch of Izalith became the most hated boss in history and caused the death of an incalculable amount of people by unleashing demons
>Her son got turned into a disgusting giant abomination
>One daughter died and was consecrated in a tomb
>Two turned into spiders, one of whom died because she was trying to get humanity, the other became frail and crippled due to her compassion
>The final one taught pyromancies before choosing to die alongside her spider sister

>Seathe died just after achieving immortality

>The furtive pygmy was forgotten about by FROM

Why is it that tits lady was the only one with anything resembling a happy end

>>166196872
>imprisoned
was he supposed to be considered imprisoned? ho brought him all the wood, cirian?

>>166196872
>>The furtive pygmy was forgotten about by FROM
The furtive pygmy was Manus, slain by the chosen undead.

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Is there any place to check on the game's glitches?
I keep losing track which ones are patched which ones aren't

>>166195428
>>166196670

>>166196321
Are /dsg/ Fight clubs still a thing ?

>>166196131
Cant you choose to stay in the world though?

I've been watching alot of pvp videos where the invaders invade during the boss fight, tell me how much fun is it?

>>166197038
Yes you can, in DaS2 and 3.

>>166196947
>Head carved of archtrees by Gough in his imprisonment. Gough imparts an emotion to each and every completed carving, which helps him achieve personal enlightenment. When a head is disturbed, it speaks, reflecting the emotion conferred to it.
This head says "Hello". Have another look. Do you sense the amicability in its eyes?

>Head carved of archtrees by Gough in his imprisonment. Gough imparts an emotion to each and every completed carving, which helps him achieve personal enlightenment. When a head is disturbed, it speaks, reflecting the emotion conferred to it.
This head says "I'm Sorry". Have another look. Isn't that an expression of atonement?

>Head carved of archtrees by Gough in his imprisonment. Gough imparts an emotion to each and every completed carving, which helps him achieve personal enlightenment. When a head is disturbed, it speaks, reflecting the emotion conferred to it.
This head says "Very Good!". Have another look. Does it not appear quite jovial?

>Head carved of archtrees by Gough in his imprisonment. Gough imparts an emotion to each and every completed carving, which helps him achieve personal enlightenment. When a head is disturbed, it speaks, reflecting the emotion conferred to it.
This head says "Thank you". Have another look. Is this not the face of gratitude?


I think he's imprisoned.

>>166196872
>The furtive pygmy was forgotten about by FROM


Not everything has to be explained. "Eaisly forgotten" is one of the traits of the Pygmy after all. Let your imagination fill in the rest.

Maybe Manus is the Pygmy, maybe not.

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what are the lore implications of pic related?

>>166195031
On the scale of 0 to 10

0 being that tripfags football monstrosity and 10 being my waifu...

I'd say you're a 6, eyes take points off.

>>166197319
Being an ashen one isn't that bad.

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>>166191404
>Lucerne You Died tier
>Black Knight Halberd Low tier
What's the thinking behind this chart? I got to Anor Londo off the back of those weapons, and BKH certainly seemed much better than everything else (which includes a lot of High tier weapons).

>>166197016

Speedsouls should at least have the ones for the current patches.

>>166197517
pvp

>>166197517
It's a pvp chart.

>>166197574
>>166197595
That explains that. What's the thinking behind it within that context? What makes a good PvP weapon, and how does that differ from PvE?

>>166197327
What's wrong with the eyes? Too far apart?

Do crystal lizards respawn in dark souls 1?

>>166197783
Not if they die, but if they wiggle away you can reload the area for another try.

>>166197783
if you don't kill them

>>166197783
save and quit

>>166197535
not really a surprise, but they only have those that benefit speedruns (skips).

>>166197949
>>166197937
>>166197990
So theres only 10? How the fuck am i suppose to get more slabs then?

>>166198043
Darkwraiths

>>166198043

CE.

>>166198043
CE or dickwraiths if you're a loser retard homoboy

>>166197641
yes.

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>>166195031
Try again.

>>166198340
>lightbulb head

>>166197630
mlgs for example has the most range out of the fast swinging greatswords and has an r2 that can fuck people on wakeup. in pve there's a lot of enemies that resist magic so it's not that great.

Cutting Kalameet's tail seems significantly harder than the boss itself.

I hope I at least get a cool dark lightning weapon for my troubles since this is bullshit

>>166198441
put on your trip luci

>>166198614
it's a buffable dark fire greatsword which for some fucking reason is listed in the description as a greataxe

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Does the red eye make me look too edgy?

>>166198614
wait for charge move where he flies off the ground a little
roll to the side
roll back
you should be beneath the tail so he will always do the tail slam and allow you to hit it

>>166197034
Yes. There will likely be one tonight since there wasn't one last night.

>>166197034
Bfs are dead

>>166198340
I like the face a lot.

It's just that the head looks too small.

>>166196486
So should i go +8 or +10?

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Fugg I'm late

/ourguy/

>>166198779
>tattoo changes eye color
from pls

>>166199170
It doesn't I changed the eye colour to match it.

>>166199019
>tumblretard
>spewing dumbshit /tv/ normie memes
god fucking kill yourself cancer

Share with me your experiences with the Dead Again miracle, dsg. Has anybody bothered to use it?

>>166197630
PvE is mostly about damage per hit and how long your cooldown time is between attacks (how long you are vulnerable). A good PvE weapon might have only one good move.

A PvP weapon is more about how many situations it has an advantage in. Having a wide, varied moveset and auxiliary effects (like bleed) will broaden its use, as well as having attacks that come out very quickly and can't be predicted easily. Damage is less of a concern, especially in DS1 where backstab damage makes normal attacks trivial by comparison.

>>166199229
>I'm a retard! : The Post

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>>166199229
>being so mad at some faggot posting art you tell God to kill himself

>>166198959
I think that might be because of the clothes I used sliders to make her whole body a little smaller than a standard one

>>166199298
Yes you are.
kys

>>166199310
take another screenshot with no clothes.

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>>166199229
contain this faggotry in /v/ please

>>166199338
Wew what kind of mental retardation were you born with ?
Here's my last (you), enjoy it, retard.

>>166199339
She's pure, fuck off.

>>166198614
You get the best dragon weapon in the game, super good for twink builds

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>>166199019
ourguy bestguy

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>>166199360
>Only 10 int

http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/bandit

>yfw dark souls 2 bandit class

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>>166199462
>being this based

>>166199407
Does she go to a doctor with her clothes on?

I just want to see if her head is well proportioned in relation to her body.

anyone on xbox willing to give me a scholar ring at highwall? pass dsg

So bros, I'm thinking of trying a dual shield build, but I'm having trouble finding some information. Are there good shields for attacking? Does size matter, as in should I use small, medium, or large shields for my offensive shield? And for that matter what's the best fashion souls when it comes to shields?

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I CANT GET PAST BLIGHTTOWN

FUCK THIS GAME

>>166199505
>mfw 8 faith and 2 att
>mfw there will never be a pure melee class
>mfw you produce light

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>>166199019
>>166199462
fuck off sillyman fanboys

>>166199579
Suck it up faggot I went through Blighttown the hard way my first playthrough with no walk-throughs
Yeah it took hours because the blowdart fags but stop being a bitch

>>166199562
beats me but magic shield is a legitimately good buff in 3. Great magic shield gives more stability than havel's can even have added, lasts less time, and can't be used on infused shields.

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>lower loran
>lightning everywhere
>loran silverbeast
>abhorrent beast
>loran darkbeast
>all weak to fire
>dungeon gives you bolt paper

>>166199681
Yeah I'm aware of that, but I'm not considering implementing magic into my build. It's just something stupid and lacking variety, yet fun. In previous games there were shields that did increase bash damage, but I'm not sure for this. I have to look through the shield list again.

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Are these kids that were fed to Adlritch? Horace said something about being a kid who escaped Aldritch. Or am I completely wrong?

>>166199532
why do you care so much

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>>166199949
>orace said something

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>>166199579
Use cover dude. You can hide behind stuff while your toxic buildup subsides, slowly inching towards the assholes. For the ones out of reach pay close attention to the darts to find out where they are, then hurry through their line of sight. The darts are slow and won't hit you while you move.

>>166200046
You're the one showing her off.

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>firekeeper see through dress

hngghhh

>>166200296
Do not sexualize the levelup menu.

>>166200093
>Horace "set"
fug

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is gwyndolin 100% dead lore wise now?

>>166201008
Yes? How is there any doubt?

She was eaten by Aldrich, over what sounds like a long time, then her 'corpse' was strung up on a tentacle of goo and bones and swanned about to shoot sorceries at adventurers.

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Can anyone give me a good reason to keep playing 3 if whenever i get hit is just 50 fucking 50? I roll and get hit regardless most of the time, sometuimes when i roll the camera does a dodgy thing and puts me infront of the person i just tried rolling from and gets me fucking hit, im sick of this crappy BB playstyle its just a spamfest, one second they pull off a 3 hit combo i easily dodge and then i have no stamina for a counter attack or they are already hitting me again while i have no stamina, this is just fucking annoying and tedious. How can so many people fucking enjoy this shitfest, im going back to 2 where what you do actually counts and i can roll out of an attack without being hit by its tip or 'spooky' phantom range where i can be hit by a fucking weapon that hasnt gone through me.

Ive had enough if you enjoy this you must have ADHD or something being constantly spammed by enemies and then having nothing to throw back with because all of my stamina is gone while enemies seem to have infinite stores, fuck this game and fuck miyazaki.

Why am I having trouble with the final boss of dark souls 3? Nameless kingnwas easy but this guy is bullshit I've been playing souls since the release of demons souls yet I cant beat this asshole

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>sensually stroking big bro's arm

what did he mean by this?

>>166201181
>she
>her

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>>166201185
>whenever i get hit is just 50 fucking 50?

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>>166201181
ehs<

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Do firekeepers have to be pure?

>>166201181
Gwyndolin was raised as a female against his will. Do you realise how problematic it is to refer to him as female?
>>166201486
Nah, those old hags were fucking sluts

>>166201185
>I roll and get hit regardless most of the time
stop fucking panic rolling and time your rolls. Fromsoft already made rolls completely braindead with the midroll having dks 1 fastroll iframes, barely any stamina cost and bloodborne-tier recovery, you don't really have a right to complain about that of all things.
>running out of stamina in dks 3 at all
nevermind, you're a lost cause. Your nigger meme picture just completes the post perfectly

>>166201712
>Do you realise how problematic it is to refer to him as female?

No because she's dead. She won't mind.

>>166201832
Yorshka still refers to him as "brother," though

>>166201917
That has more to do with Japanese developers being ignorant of trans-issues.

>>166199389
>>166199360
fuck off and die of cancer back in reddit newfags

>>166201486
anyone can be a firekeeper, just look at Lady of the Darkling and Quelaag's Sister

So I saw an interesting build and wanted to ask about it. What this build was was a dude using an axe in his left hand, and a shield in his right. He regularly incorporated bashes and things like that into swinging his axe. My questions are twofold. A. For the offhand weapons, which kinds are ideal with that? Most are kinda shitty due to having a stupid weak guard, but don't the ones that cast spells lying the heysel pick work fully in the left hand? I'm not at home to actually test that. And B. as for the right hand, since the shield is not used for defending, defensive ability doesn't matter at all unless I two hand it. Is there any ideal effects for that, like a bleed shield or something? I can't for the life of me recognize what shield he was using specifically, but it was one of the crests. Probably the grass crest.

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>>166202140
watch out we got a live one

>>166201712
you were raised a faggot against your will, but that wont stop me from calling you one.

>>166202001
"A divine ring granted to the Darkmoon Gwyndolin in his youth.
Causes males to perform female actions, and vice-versa.
Gwyndolin was raised like a daughter through the aura of the moon, and was said to behave like a sullen brooding goddess."
The description of the Reversal Ring shows that Gwyndolin was male, but raised as a female because of his affiliation with the moon. Also, given the nature of Gwyn and his family, it would probably be easier to claim a second "daughter" than it would to explain why his son was effeminate and drew power from the moon rather than the sun

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>>166202140
>trying to fit in this hard

You should go back to /v/

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I want to fuck Gwyndolin's boipucci

>>166202323
Wrong, I CHOSE to be a faggot. Gwyndolin's a dude

>>166202446
you should go back to /r/eddit

>>166192347
is this OC

>>166201730
Listen here faggot, it doesnt matter whether i delay my rolls i still get hit by nothing half the time, There is nothing about timing in 3 its all twitch fucking reactions, im not panic rolling i cant be hit in 2, when i try and apply my experience from 2 into 3 it is impossible to do anything, i would rather have my 4 meaningful rolls back rather than 20 that i need to spam because the enemy is spamming 14 R1s at me with double the range that it shows on the fucking screen.

Hur lets turn souls into bloodbourne except you cant self heal HUIRR DIFFICULTY

>miyazaki

>>166202880
>when i try and apply my experience from 2 into 3 it is impossible to do anything

Thats because 2 is shoddily made and isn't like the others. If you came from DaS1 then 3 feels mostly the same.

>>166202880
>There is nothing about timing in 3 its all twitch fucking reactions

It's a scrub filter. You know what that means scrub.

>>166202880
there's people that have beaten the game at SL1 without rolling, you don't need "20 rolls you need to spam", just dodge on reflex

>>166202880
if you try twitch reactions, your roll will get caught and you'll be "hit by nothing"
you're clearly doing something wrong if you're fucking up this badly, so maybe try listening to people who do better at it

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Who is best girl and why is it Emerald Herald?

>>166203365
>not Maiden in Black

Emerald Herald is a shitty knock off of best girl

>>166203113
Ive tried this, its isnt working out for me, im SL19 and my stamina is dead after dodging those knights attacks everytime and i cant counter attack with no stamina so they just start attacking again and all my stamina goes to rolling away again but cant forget i get hit atleast once because of the tip though, those tips are deadly, never realised just how deadly a sword tip was. They just eventually get me every fuckin time. no matter how i switch up the rolling, also when im locked on if i roll the camera switches and changes the direction im rolling in so i end up rolling either back into them or im fuckin disoriented and just get hit, ithe lock on also randomly untargets enemies so ill start swinging off in another direction which obviously gets me hit, Maybe im doing something wrong, maybe, but if 2 is shoddily made then this is a shoddily made BB.

>>166203594
are you fighting lothric knights in HW?
in my experience the first time through they seem to be desgined to get new ds3 players trying to approach them like threatening big guys in previous games. don't prolong the fight or circle them going for backstabs, that's what they're buitl to punish. they actually have quite low hp and nopoise, so if you can get a few swings in they'll be stunlocked and go down easy.

>>166203594
>They just eventually get me every fuckin time. no matter how i switch up the rolling

You're obviously lying so you don't have to admit to yourself that you're bad. If you were actually switching up the rolls you'd have found what works. Most of us can fight them no problemo, so there IS a way to do it, you'd just rather call the game bad than yourself. You have to learn actual timing, rather than stacking ADP and spamming.

>>166202880
you could try the old standby and get good

>>166196321
1. Search for invasion while being part of Mound-Makers
2. Try to activate a go-home item (Darksign, Homeward Bone, Coiled Sword Fragment), then switch active item to Estus and ready a casting tool and spell
3. When you get the "invading world as mad dark spirit" message, quickly cast spell then spam Estus right after
4. If done correctly, you will invade as a co-opping purple

The other guy won't get the invasion notice, you can enter the boss room after them, and you can kill them. But supposedly they can also BC you out.

Is there a way to not get hit against Dragon God? He always deals like half my health, if I roll away too early he won't destroy the rubble.

>>166199949

You're correct.

Horace was aiding Anri to get revenge on Aldrich.

>>166204186
Uh wrong thread? Lol

>>166204186
Become an atheist

>>166204186
Use a bow and arrows to break the rubble in your way and run through. The worst part is the initial run to the right, after that it's much easier.

>>166204342
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/walk2-3-boss

WHERE IS MY DLC ELFRIEDE!!!

>>166204592
CHEW
IT SLOWLY

>>166204592
2 days

>>166203891
You cant spam roll in 2 your stamina bar makes sure. In this however its almost as if the stamina bar is designed for the very purpose of spamming considering you get 6-7 of them, not that it matters because i dodge on swings(which is necessary for getting through 2) but in 3 i still seem to get hit by half the attacks whether i roll on the swing or not, if i roll away i havent got the range to counter, if i roll into his attacks and get behind him my stamina is gone by the time hes done hitting R1 and he has such a small recovery window that i cant even wait for a second of stamina before hes attacking again, this is what difficulty is supposed to be now, trying to find that opportunity where i have enough stamina after his spamming to hit him once for 60 damage.

>>166204662
FUCK OFF EDMUND

>>166194338
Equipping a shield implies your going to take a hit. Its a poor mentality to have.

People that point down after a solid/non-meta/fair duel: what's your story?

I'd just like to know what is going through your head when you do it. Of course you're entitled to use whatever gesture you want after a fight. Hell, if there were a "middle finger" gesture, I'd expect it to get frequent use; but for scummy wins and cheap tactics, not for genuinely enjoyable and good-natured fights.

Are you upset I'm not running a build identical to yours? Are you offended that I actually took away most of your health? Are you legitimately out to passive aggressively rub salt in a wound? Let me know, cause y'all fascinate me.

I won't even disclose the amount of salty mail I've gotten from people that BEAT me (Yes. They won, and felt the need to message me about it). But the content ranges from homophobic epithets, assaults on my integrity as a gamer, and of course unprovoked/unwanted advice on how to play the game "properly."

Seems no matter what weapon/build I run, I am a magnet for this kind of behavior.

And no, my username isn't ISISnazi420blazeit (that was taken unfortunately).

So tell me: what's the real story?

As a sorcerer, what melee weapon should I put chaos on?

>>166205003
>yukaslegion trolling

Get out, the reason people do it is because people like you write essays on 4chan about it.

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>Make a completely acceptable fashion
>Put Havel's gauntlets on it
Why do so many faggots do this

>>166205003
that's what you get for using estocs and chugging like a motherfucker

>>166205093
>can't recognize out a simple pasta

Hello newfag

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>>166204186
If you can use the spell Warding, you'll take a bit of damages, like less than 1/4 of your hp. With that you can run without worrying.
If you can't use it do as >>166204440 said.

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>>166205301
>newfag

Heh. Do you know all the memes? Bet youre the copypasta king.

>>166204440
Oh lol I didn't know you could break the rubble yourself, I thought the gimmick of the fight was trying to coax him into breaking it for you.

Also does he only have like 350~ hp or does he just die in one hit to the dragon bone smasher? I hit him with another weapon and it did a piddly 38 damage

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>>166205428

>>166205597
How do you cope with the second attack not even hitting you.

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>>166205428

>>166205691

You don't.

>>166205691
remember its Dark Souls and that phantom range on weapons stopped pissing me off after DS 1

>>166205530
After invading for over 2000 hours, I find myself questioning why I invade the way I do.

Very rarely do I wait for them to attack first, and even rarer do I return their bows. A feeling of disgust and revulsion at these players being alive, in human form, makes me treat them as violations to some natural law, under which they deserve to be chainstabbed, stunlocked, and/or peppered with poison arrows + Lloyd's talismans until death.

I get a lot of mail, not so much hate, but just asking why. Why me? What did I do? It's my job to kill them, to keep the prey under persecution in a time of empowerment, I guess. A law of averages given form and will, to kill any humans, strong or weak, many or alone.

Even in my own world, I find no peace. There are humans out there, living and breathing, and the balance needs to be restored.

>>166205558
Yeah you can break them yourself, a bow and arrow just makes it safe. You're suppose to play it stealthily by sneaking by and avoiding being seen by him, that's why when he's looking for you his eyes are yellow while when he spots you, they turn red.
He has a decent amount of HP but it doesn't take long to hit him when he's locked down. Just keep locked on to his chin horn and back away every so often to avoid his heat breath. Also you might not have the required stats to properly wield the DBS so that may be why you're doing such low damage with it.

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>>166205798
Unsettling

>>166205851
>stopped pissing me off

How?

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>>166205428

>>166205530
Fucking this.
All the lore that is worth discussing has been discussed
All the best builds have been determined
All the secrets have been unraveled
Every inch of this game has been covered
There are only so many ways you can play this game, even with the inclusion of Ashes of Ariandel. Most times it's a waste of time to do before clearing the game.
The PvE has been dissected thoroughly where a simple google search will unveil the OPTIMAL BIS SET UP for EVERY BUILD or THE BEST DAMAGE BUILD IN THE GAME and etc.
Routes have already been developed for speed running or 100%/Platinuming the game.
The PvP meta has also been equally as dissected.
Every RESOURCE you NEED is in the OP of this very thread, and every thread for this general for as long as /dsg/ continues to exist.
Reddit even offers similar resources with the same information.
Every topic under the sun that is worth discussing has been discussed.
The ONLY thing left to DISCUSS is translating the last few pieces of the lore so we can infer what it means and how it correlates with the overall image of the series.
If you're new to /dsg/, know that this isn't a ice cream social, this isn't a "oh let's chat" general. For that you can easily go to /bbg/ or reddit. This general is for grouping up with players or setting up fight clubs

Happy fighting and fuck off.

>>166205074
>As a sorcerer

You mean Pyromancer? A Sorcerer would benefit from Crystal infusions.

Someone on PC DS2 wanna join me in Hiedes Tower?
SL 48 im bored of playing alone.

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>>166206107
>this isn't a ice cream social

Are you sassin me boy?

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>>166206370
>ds2
>SL

>Darkness ending, end this crazy cycle
>lol little fires in the dark bro, just be patient.

Dammit

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Is it the right way for the bottom bell?
I'm super lost, plz send help.

>>166206524
Yes. Be wary of lanklets with sniper rifles.

>>166206524
y

>try making a tanned character
>looks perfect in character creation
>looks guido orange in game

>>166206572
>>166206575
Thanks.
Who was the guy selling the two rings that stop the bleeding and poison thingy?
I feel like I might need those

Kalameet isn't a good fight
So many times I've nearly killed him only to suicide because that fucking tail is immortal.

You can only get it on like 3 attacks so it's just a boring as fuck waiting game and taking chip damage/getting punished

This is fucking horrendous. I'm glad the tail gimmick left, the Santuary Guardian, Seathe and Kalameet take the fucking piss

>>166206458
Sorry buddy im fresh out of DS1 and DeS, how does it work in DS2?

>>166206807
That's the guy at the top of the Parish, Oswald.

Bleed isn't really a problem, but you should probably search the Depths a bit more thoroughly to make sure you picked up a specific shield that will really help you here.

>>166206993
Soul memory, great concept, bad execution.

>>166206816
>he doesn't use the self-stun trick on Seathe
>he doesn't abuse the dive-bomb attack with Kalameet
>he doesn't just snipe the tail from the entrance after beating Sanctuary Guardian the first time

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>mfw running around completely naked with the dragon bone smasher sending enemies flying 50 feet off cliffs with an R1

holy fucking shit this weapon

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>>166206107
>Every inch of this game has been covered

As someone who's favorite general AC6 WHEN hasn't had a new game in 3.5 years.... no, no it hasn't. There are depths of detail that dark souls hasn't even begun to reach.

You haven't even begun exploring a game until people are cracking it and running it on phones, it hits 3rd party markets like Italy and results in floods of new players developing a completely new meta and basically undoes all the common knowledge from a year ago, or doing fan translations of all the Japanese text to parse out English vs JP lore and compare them.

>>166206524
keep going down

your waifu a shit

>>166207151
>>166206370
OK, anyone in Heides wanna help out?

>>166206993
Co-op/invasion matchmaking in ds2 is governed by soul memory (read: everybody's favorite mechanic) instead of SL. This means every time you gain souls (or die without reclaiming your souls), you can and will get placed in higher and higher tiers. The only way to place yourself in a consistent matchmaking environment is to wear this ring you get at some point in the game, which thankfully is not really that far. Said ring however, prevents you from gaining any souls at all.

You can use this to see who you can play with http://jakebarnes.com.au/ds2sm/

>>166207274
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/fucking%20this%20lore%20ice%20cream%20social/

Is there a fast way to get to vados? Like a campfire?

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>>166205428

/DSG/: Copypasta General

>>166207167
>Stand at the right range for him to do his Dive Bomb attack
>Spend 20 minutes shuffling back and forth because he either rotates on his axis trying to get me or shooting lightning
>Eventually run out of estus from his Lightning Chip Damage
>No dive bomb
>die

what a great fight

literally BoC tier

Next DLC when?

How the fuck do I into quality build

Do you just level str and dex equally so you're better off with equal scaling weapons?

>>166208382
40/40

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>>166208127
>Kalameet
>lightning

>>166208127
You have to end up right under his ass when he lands. That means get out of the way while backing up, then get back in the way after he flies through. If you can do that consistently, you can bait the tail slam attack almost every time.

>>166208382
Yes, that's how quality works. You take both STR and DEX to 40 and then use any weapon in the entire game at maximum effectiveness because you're a shitter that can't commit to an actual build.

>>166208382
40/40/40/40
Vig/end/str/dex

>>166208567
Well, I am a shitter but I like the idea of being able to try out any weapon.
>>166208595
Order doesn't really matter?

>>166192047
lower the settings further, resolution too and try again. first area is fairly small, you are gonna suffer the rest of the game.

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Is this build good enough for PvP?

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Does anyone else dislike what they did to parrying in DaS3? Parrying used to work by pressing the parry button when the attack was about to hit you, very intuitive. Now you have to parry before the attack hits you.

>>166208787
While leveling Str/dex stays just high enough so you can use your weapon of choice, then you level vig and end up to 40 (prioritising vig till its at 27) then once you are 40vig and end put everything in dex/str.

>>166192229
idk, it's clearly the most humiliating of em all, perhaps we all like doing that after defeating a host/invader.
tl; dr: is a good meme.

>>166208884
y

>>166208884
it's alright, though you'll still have trouble against turtles, and you'll see a lot of them in the JP meta

>>166192229
Its not because its a forced meme or anything it simply pisses off people like you so people do it.

Dunno if you know this but the souls community is 99% assholes.

>>166208932
Yeah I thought I just got really bad at parrying at first. Don't know why they thought it needed changed.

>>166208932
Tell me you aren't parrying with a medium shield in DaS3.

>>166208932
It took some time to get used to, but it works. Sometimes I'm parrying before I see an attack animation playing, which feels janky as fuck though.

>>166208084
Warp to Tomb bonfire and climb out from there. You still have to get past the meme skeletons, but it's the fastest route if you aren't already in the Catacombs.

>>166194338
it doesn't hurt to carry a shield, for mobs is most effective as most bosses will shield break you right away. although heavier shields are more effective against bosses they also mean investing some of the build into using said shield.
id used to carry whatever shield, prefer something that has a secondary effect like +stamina regen and upgrade them as last priority.

>>166206524
>plz send help.

No one can help you now.

>>166208884
>PvP
>SL 200
>LB instead of DMB
>denial spell without regeneration to protect against for thorns/knives

you can swap out lingering for leo after casting and still get the full duration bonus, for the record

>>166209191

I have tried all parrying tools, they all have a delay.

>>166208949
Okay, thanks.

Playing the Nioh beta makes me want to buy the DaS3 Season Pass, despite Ariandel being pretty weak.

When are we getting DLC2's trailer?

>>166208932
It matters not theres no skill needed for parrying, the majority of people i come across just try spamming caestus when you roll near them, theyll spam it 2-3 times before backing off, I thought i was pretty good earlier only slashing between the spam but the 4th one got me, i was incredibly surprised with the amount of hits she fucking took during her dumbshit parry spam and still had over half her health left(using a bleed build and was carthus buffed at time) there was almost no consequence to spamming it, because as soon as she caught me with her 'fourth time lucky rite' spam she one-shit riposted me, fucking gankers i swear.

>>166208932
IIRC that's how the parrying shields in DaS2 worked, you parry right at the beginning of the attack animation. With medium shields you could parry right before the attack came in though.

>>166209630
You can't, you need to be usong lingering when the 60 second duration expires for it to last longer

>>166199579
do you have the master key starter gift? cause you can get through an elevator that's through a locked a door near the valley of drakes [was that the name?]

>>166209825
2 days

>>166209825
Some youtubers are demoing the second dlc next week. Probably pretty soon.

>>166208564
THanks, this worked.
Got the sword, killed self, then fought him and blitzed him down in an instant.

What a fucking shit fight. It's so garbage that the only difficulty is in trying to manipulate his AI to do the one attack that lets you hit the tail.

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Post Friede waifu pics.

Where do you get the key to free the dude in soul form in Latria? I thought I'd get it after the Adjucntor because he mentioned it was with a fat guy but I didn't find it anywhere around him

>>166210898
Gotta be in PWWT. It'll be up near one of the chains to drop the heart.

>>166210541
Obsidian Greatsword isn't even all that great unless you're going a buff build. There's no reason to try to get it outside of that or for completionists' sake.

>>166197517
I made this way back. It's not very good, quite a few inaccuracies.

Lucerne has an extremely wonky and slow unique r1 which is liable to get you backstabbed.
The generic halberd r2s? Also get you backstabbed. It essentially does not have any safe attacks.
The Halberd is massively superior for leo counter hits. Better range, faster r1s, infinite stunlock.
It's not You Died though. You can always just backstab fish with it. It's not as bad off as the Giant's Halberd.

The black knight halberd is over twice the weight of the other halberds, which hurts with DaS1's near-mandatory fast roll meta.
It's heavier than the great club, and not very stat efficient outside of going 27/18 and pumping END.
It's also slower than other halberds slightly, yet has the same AR as the rest on a quality build.
The only advantage it truly has is having 10 higher poisebreak than other halberds, but that's not as useful as you might think when your own poise will suffer from going FaP + Leo with a 14 weight weapon.
In case you didn't know all halberds except the Scythe have their r1s count as thrust damage and work with leo.
Not low, more like mid.

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>>166199859
>giant flimsy lightning skeleton beast
>resists blunt and is weak to everything fucking else except bolt

how do i ultra great sword pvp?

>>166199859
>lightning area gives you lightning
>bosses weakness is in another area

duh, ain't you ever megaman'd before?

>>166211724
r1 r1, backstep.

rinse. repeat.

>>166211724
Play without lock on, use your longer range and wider attacks to your advantage, trade damage with light weapons and abuse poise, shield break if possible.

A good strategy is to use high tracking (can aim behind you) attacks while facing away from the enemy. This lets you always do more damage than you take against anything faster than you.

Beyond that you're going to need to specify the game you're playing and your stats.

>>166211137
I wanted to experience all of the Dark Souls content so I could properly rate all of the games.

Upon playing it again, some 4 years later, Dark Souls 1 is really kind of bad compared to the rest of the series.

Like, now that I've done everything I can be assured it has the best level design for sure, but it has huge balance problems (Instead of rolls, it's blocking/poise stacking, everything about pyromancies), really shitty bosses (There are like 3 good bosses, one is arguably overrated just like ANOR LONDO ARCHERS and has been done better and the other two are DLC who have also been done better) and some terrible enemies that make even the pot dudes from DaS3 look like saints.

The game completely shits the bed in level design, level interconnectivity fun, boss gamplay and overall quality past Anor Londo. The DLC is slightly better, but it's short as shit (Although it has two good bosses). The saving grace is boss aesthetics/atmosphere/music and getting payoff for item descriptions.

Granted, it's better than DaS2, which has two good bosses both from the same DLC and not much else, be it designwise or plot.

I really can't see how people could ever put DaS above DaS3 or BB. I'm convinced it's mainly due to PvP, because while they both have somewhat simple level design (Still better than Post Anor Londo DaS, which I'm convinced means that merely the act of teleportation makes FROM lazy). The PvE experience in DaS is really kind of bad now that I've gone back and played it after all this time.

I'd much rather prefer to fight something like Princes/SoC/NK/Champ/Friede/Watchers over even Manus and Artorias. As the games continued, in many aspects they made huge leaps and bounds.

So yeah. Now that I know what everything in DaS is like from a PvE perspective, I can safely say that the PvE is incredibly dated.

Now, time to begin DeSing.

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So... cyberpunk souls next?

I just wanna play Blame! the game...

>>166212428
Whats your problem with the Pot dudes, or the Black Knight archers?

Why isn't Patches in the Nexus or 4-2? Already found him in 2-2

>>166211724
Stack up poise and learn to trade

>>166212428
Dark Souls 1 feels more like an indie game, Dark Souls 3 and BB feel too brightly produced and "AAA" style that enjoying them feels like you're "selling out".

A lot of people like DeS and DaS purely for the underground-clunkiness they had, which was really just bad game design and limited budgets, and they have nostalgia goggles for that.

>>166211724
1. play dark souls 2
2. pick any UGS except old knight UGS which is mediocre or drakekeeper UGS which is better in PvE than Zwei but weaker in PvP due to short range
3. practice animation canceling, quickattacking, quickrolling, animation recovery canceling, unlocked movement, delayed roll attacks, you don't NEED to be inputting a bunch of crazy inputs a second but it can help against good players
- if Zweihander, fucking Zwei Hand it and learn how to use reverse 2hr1s to catch enemies and players with the beginning of the slash, use 2hr2 for roll catches
- if FUGS, learn how to block cancel, learn to bait people into rolling behind you with the 2hr1s / 2hL2, this weapon is the best in the game once you master it
- if IKUGS, understand that you basically outrange washing poles with your laser, your 2h roll attack combos into a 2hr1, this weapon does EXTREME damage, wear bracing knuckle ring though
- if Smelter Sword, use the Aged Smelter instead, magic damage > fire. it is next to impossible to dodge the r2 explosions at point blank, abuse this
- if Lost Sinner Sword, know that 10 sin removes all scaling and ring damage boosts but does not decrease below base, element infuse it for amazing base damage, buff it, this weapon does comparable damage to IKUGS without sin
- if Greatsword, abuse the range of your jump attack and the speed of the 2h roll attack -> 2hr1
- if Crypt Blacksword, don't try to use it at SL150, this weapon needs a lot of stats, you do want 40 str and 30/30 int/fai, beware of using the 1h moveset if they have a buckler out
- if King's UGS, consider going maximum poise + gower's and abusing this weapon's stellar aiming capability, again beware of parryfags

don't even try to use UGS in pvp in DaS3, shit experience all around

>>166212989
>ugs in 2
>any being decent except fugs

Play DeS for actually good ultras. Or DaS if you think backstabbing with UGS is fun

>>166212561
DaS3 pot dudes are bullshit, especially once they pull out the saws due to the long combos and infinite poise, which is a fucking annoyance in a game like DaS3.

The point about the Anor Londo Archers is that much like Ornstein and Smough, they're memed up as this super cool super difficult amazing challenge, but they're kind of just... there.
I mean sure, it's a cool concept and it caught me off guard the first time, but they have clear blind spots, the projectiles are relatively slow and the second one can't hurt you when you're fighting the first.

Similarly, Ornstein and Smough are hyped up as these amazing 10/10 legendary bosses that are the best the series has to offer (Voted #1 on DeModcracy). But really, it's two guys with very limited movepools. Additionally, most of the challenge is optional. Killing Ornstein first is trivial since Smough's slow and telegraphed as shit. Doing things the other way around is the only way it gets challenging (Because then Ornstein can actually cover Smough) but even then the main challenge comes from Smough's meaty hammer shovel attack and not using the pillars. The transformation is great, but the fight's easy with only one of them because the two of them have super telegraphed attacks that give you plenty of time to both dodge and retaliate without fear of reprisal. The only real way to die in P2 is to be shit at dodging or to get hit by the buttslam's Ancient Dragon-tier hitbox.

The fight has an amazing atmosphere and introduction, as well as good visual & auditory design, but the actual mechanics are rather shit compared to the bosses in later games like Bloodborne w/DLC (Base game is kinda ehhh on bosses) and DaS3.

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>>166210851
Sadly there's not much
The lewds ones are weak

>>166213218
>no movesets, no special attacks, only use one weapon in class because it just has more damage, not any other significant differences

please stop with the nostalgiafagging

>>166213340
Elfriedes a babe. My barefoot goddess.

>>166213218
>DeS for PvP
>"I need to be contrarian constantly"

DS2 is the best game for ultra PvP because it's the only game with viable UGS and active/good PvP.

>>166213243
>The point about the Anor Londo Archers is that much like Ornstein and Smough, they're memed up as this super cool super difficult amazing challenge

No one who has fought Sweet bro and hella Jeff will claim it's a difficult fight, unless they are really terrible, in which case they will say every bossfight is difficult.

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>>166212989
>if Lost Sinner Sword, know that 10 sin removes all scaling and ring damage boosts but does not decrease below base, element infuse it for amazing base damage, buff it, this weapon does comparable damage to IKUGS without sin

If lost sinner sword, use raw at low stats (removes the damage loss from sinning).

Otherwise, power stance it on the left hand with a greatsword or something lighter. R1 > L1> unlocked L1 can kill most players in one combo.

>can only make the storm ruler do the big WOOOOOSH in 4-3

lame

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>>166213492
>>166213587
It is less active, but if you want ultra PvP and a game where they are good and not flashy, you'd go to DeS.
It's not even an argument, fugs is the only ugs in 2 that can try and face good weapons. Any other will fall apart against good players and weapons

>>166213831
Also was the Nexus always playing spooky organ music or is that new?

>>166206524
Misery ahead
The true Dark Souls starts here

>>166213986
I suppose if you care more about K/D ratio than actually playing the fucking game, then it would be worth waiting hours / days for people to fight against in DeS and use the same move over and over and over again to win just because you have more damage.

>>166213995
I think you need to kill 3 or 4 archdemons.

>>166214015
It kinda fell Dark soulish enough before... Maledictions, giant dragons, Hydras and shit...
But seriously though, this part is showing me a new definition of the term 'rekt'

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>>166214210
I'm just telling you not to pretend they are good in 2. Less shit than in 3 =/= good. I could beat any non fugs ugs nearly every time with an actual good weapon, fugs included

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Where can I find more like pic related

Oh man, I love being a sunbro.

What is the hardest boss in the game I can make a character for just being a phantom for.

Probably Nameless Kang... Hmm... But that's so endgame though.

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>>166215139
not here

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>>166215079
And to finish, something I made myself, please rate, like and subscribe

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>>166215139
why do people get off on this

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This guy already gave me a Golden Ritual Spear. There any chance he might drop the Headpiece?

>>166215370
fuck off frog

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>>166215629
(you)

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>>166215370
looks like a man

>>166211452
Thanks for the rundown. I see CB is Top tier; is that still correct? I heard it was only okay—but I was going to get it anyway, because the mechanic seems interesting.

>>166215536
keep throwing them talismans at it.

If that fails, I have an extra one you can have.

am i safe from pvpfags in das1 if i just hide on elevators?

>>166212428
>I really can't see how people could ever put DaS above DaS3 or BB

The world is crafted much better in DaS1 than DaS3.

BB is pretty great but playing it I also miss things like armor mattering, different playstyles between fast and tank characters and the style of fantasy in DaS1 and DeS sometimes makes me miss those games while playing BB.

Although DaS3 is pretty much DeS2.0 and BB is DaS1 2.0.

>because while they both have somewhat simple level design
BB has pretty GOAT level design, almost every level is easily on par with the good levels of 1. DaS3 is less consistently good.

>which I'm convinced means that merely the act of teleportation makes FROM lazy
BB had good level design despite having warp from the start although it worked more like DeS.

>>166216527
you're safer if you play offline

>>166216527
I personally get naked and commit sepukko.

>One of the only enemies to call out their attacks with spoken words, as introduced in Bloodborne. Specifically the immolation hug, the rest is just mad cackling and mumbling.

Huh...so this is the power of Fextralife...

>>166213654
Why does she have three Scythes?

>>166216527

Just play offline if you don't want PvP.

>>166216434

Just got it. Thanks.

>>166216880
To draw your gaze to her feet.

>>166198340
>notfootball

I love how football has become a meme. I am so glad I made that image.

>>166216954
You're right. I've been blind.

>>166196872

>Ornstein followed Gwyn's firstborn and died, but his legend lived on to the point where his armour is everywhere

He stripped his armor off and become a dragon scalie.

>>166216857
>"Oh, child... [FWOOSH] ...come to me!"

Just got summoned to fight the Cinder with two pyromancers, who were both just standing back throwing fireballs at it...

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>>166216807
>>166216916
what if i just want to fight [fair]