/indie/ - Indie And Obscure Games General

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woo we're alive again

>>166184147
Yeah, but for how long?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzadxrooKHQ

NEVER EVER

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>>166184429
Until night shift, I imagine. My bump buddy seems to have disappeared.

Anyone play LISA: the pointless?

>>166185168
Not yet. Haven't had time lately but I want to

Anyone try Soma Spirits? Is it good?

bump

>>166185435
I thought it was going to be a shoot-em-up.

desu if I see one more Earthbound-inspired RPGMaker game I'm gonna top myself.

>>166187480
Have you heared of Mother 4?
It is the totally legit and real sequel that the dev approves of.

>>166188450
Itoi didn't approve of the specific game Mother 4 that's being made, he just said that he'd want to experience Mother 4 as a player and that anyone else was free to make it in general.

Favorite Knytt Stories level?

I re-downloaded the game and I still have a huge backlog of levels to try out

>>166191419
Don't Eat the Mushroom is a classic.

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>start playing Valkyria Chronicles, don't know much about it
>realize the character designs are by Raita

>>166193128
I fell for the steam sale meme for that and only noticed after that it got an actual physical release for pc.

>>166194204
I got it on sale too, ages ago.

The graphics are really nice, one of the best uses of anime-style 3D I've seen.

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Shame people know only about the Johnny series when it comes to Kimberly Kubus.
His other games are just as trippy and interesting.

>>166195645
First time hearing of this in general. WHat genre are the games?

I guess the dream is dead.
Tme to preorder the next cod.

>>166200508
pssht there's more /indie/ than one could play in a lifetime

Anyone knows any new text adventures? Last big one I played was Blue Lacune, which was pretty fucking cool all things considered. I also checked out some of the Interactive Fiction Award winners from the past few years, but they tend to be pretty hit and miss.

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I still feel like I don't know what I'm doing

>>166206379
That is part of the charme. Figuring things out by making mistakes makes for good stories.

>>166185168
I wanted to, but my computer lags horribly with vxace games. I cant even replay the joyful

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New screenshot for ProjectRasperry. It's by the dev that made stories of bethem.

/indie/ is dead. Long live /indie/!

>>166191419
It Waits

Anyone tried Detention?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/555220/

>>166209650
the perspective plane is inconsistent and it looks like shit

>>166213335
Only bridge stands out with a different perspective.

>>166214487
naw man those trees are awful failures trying to ape aLttP

>>166214487
Edge of the water too

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>>166216634
>naw man those trees are awful failures trying to ape aLttP

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What is /indie/ playing/planning to play?

Holy shit, we are dead or on page 10 a lot this week.

There being no thread where I can complain sucks even the remaining fun out of hunting for mutants.

>>166225391
Yeah I wonder what happened. Did the underrail hype die?

>>166225391
>>166225841
There was a new experimental patch just today. New devlog soon?

>>166225841
I mean, the recent hype had been quite nice, but that it happened is more surprising than it disappearing. We didn't really have much Underrail discussion from something like mid-February until, what was it, November? Whenever the expansion comes the hype is likely to return though.

>>166226651
Nah, I don't think so. The new patch didn't change much, just a couple of bugfixes.

Although those grayed out skill checks if you don't meet the requirement, I think those are new. Unless they've been always there and I've suffered some kind of memory loss.

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>>166183038
Anyone else really disappointed by the last Knytt game? It looked like an early 2000's flash game.

Are pixel graphics unpopular with modern gamers to the point where this was a better choice?

>>166227641
I love Knytt Underground. I consider it his best work combining all the strenghts.
The style is from an experimental phase of western indies and he keept that for this work too. It's obvious of course that he is way better at enviroments than humans.

>>166227982
Does it get better as it goes on? I'm not sure if I even finished it.

I probably just have a nostalgia bias for the earlier games and their modding community.

>>166225391
>There being no thread where I can complain sucks even the remaining fun out of hunting for mutants.
Tell me your secrets, o great hunter. How have you approached your task thus far?

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>>166227641
Loved it, best in the series imo (although Knytt Stories is a different beast what with the level editor). I liked the art, it reminded me of old claymation and European cartoons. The gawkiness of the characters suits the humanistic theme of the story, they're not supposed to look ostentatiously cool or beautiful.

I did generally prefer the outdoors settings to the underground one though.

>>166229027
There is a clear difference bewteen the first 2 chapters, which are pretty much tutorials to both the mechanics and characters, and the 3rd chapter which is the actual open world game. Exploring the world was a pure joy to me.

>>166229221
>secrets

kek, even joking about this is giving me too much credit.

So okay, two-headed mutants.
If it really is mechanics-related, then I suppose searching locations is pointless, this is something else. Which is good, because I've trudged through every single fucking map like thrice in the past month. Which I guess can mean two things, I'm either blind as a Deep Worm, or the reason why they are in none of these places is because they are in all of these places. All of the places where mutants can be found, at least.

But what mechanics? Combat mechanics? Stealth mechanics? Spawn mechanics? Is this like a Resident Evil Remake situation where you have to kill mutants in a specific way to unleash the horror? Like what, crit them so hard you split their head in two? Nah, but I've critted mutants plenty of times since the patch came out, so probably not. Unless it's random chance, and it's really fucking low. Or it's something more specific, like only possible with specific weapon-types. Dear Tchort, and now I'm actually considering picking up a cleaver and hacking at mutants like I channeled Evelyn's spirit.

However, none of these would require anyone to
>understand the mechanics
because in this case there would be literally nothing to understand. It'd either happen to you or not. And anyway, if it was this simple, someone should have encountered it already. So I'm most likely still on the wrong track.

epeli, I beg you, if the time comes put me out of my misery and put it on the wiki. I don't care how simple the solution is, I don't want to suffer the disgrace of having to find it out from a Codex thread. Anything, but that.

>page 10

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can anyone help with this puzzle?

>>166235064
I don't understand what the numbers mean here.

>>166225314
I think I'll start on another Stardew Valley playthrough tonight

>>166235339
each picture represents a number and you're supposed to figure out which is which (0-9)
I assumed it means the top half is adding each picture but that doesn't really work so I'm not sure what they mean either

>>166235064
What exactly do you do in this puzzle? That is, which one is your input? Do you need to write a number in those yellow circles, or click the icons above them in a specific order, that kind of thing.

>>166235570
the bottom half is the input
see >>166235427
each 0 can be clicked to make a number from 0-9

>>166235716
Try 7 8 5 2 1 9

>>166236746
yeah that worked, I see now that the first number is 15. that's retarded though, the 1 and 5 should definitely be closer together
thanks

>>166237756
>>166236746
no wait nevermind I don't understand
tell me your logic please

>>166237756
What game is that from anyway?

>>166238298
Grackon's Curse
>>166237981
>>166236746
pls respond

Has anyone tried running RPG Maker games or Wolf RPG Editor games on Linux? I'm having some problems, not sure if there's anyone here experienced...

>>166237981
You start from the simple fact that each icon represents a number between 0 and 9. Technically this leaves you with two solutions, so the actual assumption I went with is that each number must be at least 1.Which means the highest you can get by adding two is 18.

So we have two easy ones
>E+F is either 1 or 11
and
>A+B is either 15 or 14+1

If we assume it is the latter, and A+B is 14+1, then that means B+C must be 18+1 (since 18 is the highest we can get if both B and C are 9), D+E are 18 or 17+1. If this is true, then E+F can only be 11. In which case neither E nor F can be smaller than 2 and also D+B must be 13+1. However if B is 9, then in this case D has to be 3, and then D+E=18/17+1 can't be true.

Hence A+B can't be 14+1, only 15. So that means B+C is 9, and D+E is 7+1. That means B is 8, because if it was 7 or 6, then D would have to be at least 6, but that would make E 1 which doesn't work.

So working from backwards
2+9=11 > 1 (and 1 carries over)
D(5)+8+1=14 > 4 (1 carries over)
5+2+1=8
8+1=9
7+8= 15

However if we assumed 0 was also an option, then
A=6
B=9
C=0
D=4
E=3
F=8
would also be possible.

I hope I didn't fuck this up, it's getting pretty late here.

>>166239694
Do you use wine? RPGmaker, at least earlier versions could be supported. I think wolf rpg is too obscure.

>>166236746
How the fuck does that work

If the shield is 7 and the mace is 8, how do they make a 5?

>>166240102
it's confusing because you didn't order A-F by the bottom half but I understand
but if you're supposed to go backwards then that makes me angry
there's no walkthroughs online and the only thing close to it is some guy saying the puzzles were easy and the game sucked

>>166240997
They make a 15, not a 5. See >>166240102.
Also, I forgot to mention the part where B being at least 6 eliminates the possibility of E+F being 1, leaving only C as a candidate for 0 if 0 is an option and confirming that E and F must be at least 2 in both versions. But this should be obvious anyway.

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>>166240102
I like videogames.

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>>166241223
Sorry, I named them in a top to bottom left to right order since I don't even know what the fuck the icon of C is supposed to represent. It isn't really that you have to work from backwards, you need to work in both directions to narrow down the options. And in the end it's just a simple addition. I don't know much about common core math, but I guess this puzzle is a big FUCK YOU to those who only know that.

>>166240526
Yes I use Wine! But I've been meeting some problems and I've asked everywhere from /g/ to /hgg2d/ and /rpgmg/ and google for the past week. Did you get MIDI playback to work on Linux?

>>166241668
I think it's a crystal ball
also lel, I haven't done paper math since like 4th grade

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>if you murder vera in her office and take the train, she still submits SGS to the united stations
Aww. At least you kick her out if you stay.

Alright, so tell it to me straight: how many former biocorp encounters did I miss? Ezra is as communicative as six except he has the common human decency of not bisecting you where you stand if you disagree, the junkyard hermit is mad, Vasilica was hostile when I entered his room, and I didn't find old man nosek. And where is pic related from?

IRIS best girl. I just want to connect her to all former biocorp facilities and help her take over underrail.

>>166241829
I haven't used ubuntu since my laptop hdd failed, sorry.

>>166206379
>no stealth
Oh shit nigga what are you doing?

>>166242595
You forgot to mention Dude.

>>166242595
As far as age goes

Who the fuck even knows tier: Six and Tanner
Confirmed to be over 200: Ezra, Vasilica, Dude, Nosek
Confirmed to be between 189-191:Otis, but he is only talked about.
Confirmed to be around 100~150: Wyatt, Abram, Eidein
Wild card: Azif, Leo

Also, good to know I'm not the only one who tried to last minute assassinate Vera to save SGS from her.

>>166243594
>walking over all the traps
>letting guys jump me in the dark
>I don't know how to dodge or evade or shoot a gun
>I just electrocute guys to stun them then hit them with the hammer
>actually sometimes I also set them on fire or freeze them or make barricades
it all works out pretty swell except for when I get jumped by like 4 guys at the same time who use both stuns and poisons

but now I have irongut pills

I also haven't died since I started using my regeneration armor

the key is being swole af

does increasing psi skills increase damage like weapon skills supposedly do?

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>>166245534
Pic related, my stats

>>166193128
Raita? Who's that?

>>166244943
>>166243996
So what exactly did biocorp build hollow earth for? Science just cause they could? What happened to IRIS' father? Why is it possible to find labcoats on skeletons as though they were at their jobs when they died? Why did the complex fall apart?

>>166245534
>does increasing psi skills increase damage like weapon skills supposedly do?

Yup. Also some other things like the number of mirror images you get from pseudo spatial projection.

>>166197953
tis but a minor inconvinience. He'll only return stronger.
>>166225314
Way too much TF2 for my health.

>>166245708
Hold on a second. You were not allied with the Faceless?

>>166229240
I swear I've seen that blue guy before, what's he from?

>>166244943
isn't tanner a god damn android from before the apocalypse?

The faceless seem pretty cool. I didn't let that one guy probe my brain, but I did give an advanced health hypo to that guy in the cage.

I'll probably try to avoid killing them in the future if they don't shoot first.

>>166245901
Facelesses, more like voicelesses. Niggers basically told me "yeah okay here's a box of ammo now get me my cube bitch".

>>166246019
Not necessarily, we don't know how much of them is organic. Six has one prosthetic arm and one prosthetic leg, but the rest might be perfectly organic ayy lmao body and he just lost those limbs in battle or something. And Ezra could read Tanner's mind, so he at least has a brain. As for where(/when) they came from, who even fucking knows. Maybe they've been around from since before the apocalypse. Or they just traveled back from the future. Or they travel around in time so much the question is meaningless. Who knows.

>>166246408
The Commander gives you a clear answer to everything you mentioned except the first one.

>>166246585
Huh, I'm sure he didn't have these line when I first saw him.


Then if they shook off their chains and cast everyone in, how did Ezra, or anyone escape?
It's not plausible that they could have just up and overrun hollow earth. The mails mentioned soldier reinforcements, so there was security on-site. Even if they were more numerous, they couldn't possibly have had access to the necessary gear to swiftly take over the complex. Not to mention, once they do, so what? Where did their technology come from? Biocorp? You're telling me biocorp had an army worth of gear stashed in the closet alongside a hundrer something tunnelers? Then how come we can't find ANY abandonned faceless gear/prototype of gear even in the locked, secure facilities still manned by robots? It doesn't add up.


Why can't Ezra teach mind reading along with mindwiping?

>>166248052
>Why can't Ezra teach mind reading along with mindwiping?
He needs to keep that ace safely tucked up his own sleeve

>>166248613
But he has to know that you'd go through a LOT of dirty laundry killing tchort. Hell, you can bring back the whole mutagen set minus eximus-2 + the scavended D5 you find in lower underrail, and even if he doesn't deduce it, the motherfucker is still capable enough to just pluck the information off your brain as demonstrated by his reading Tanner's mind.

But since he HASN'T wiped all those off your pretty little skull, surely he could answer some questions after this little bonding in Tanner's room, right?

>>166248993
>after this little bonding
It's pretty funny that despite being a total sociopath he is kind of a nice guy.

>>166249963
>trainee walk up to you asking if you can help him learn psioncis
>send him on a private azuridae island
Yeah. Nice. I mean yeah, again, unlike Six, he won't actually hurt you.

>>166250129
Not only that, he for example accepted the commission to make a pretty nice pair of decorated tracking necklaces for Arlene and her husband, and he refuses to fix the dead husband's necklace if you find it, since it would be a pretty dick move to have it suddenly activate so Arlene's would pick up the signal.

When you go to him asking for help with the Beast, he could have easily refused to help you. He wouldn't even have to laugh maniacally and tell you it would be more interesting to study how much havoc such an advanced psimorph could wreck, he could just simply tell you he has no idea how to kill it. But nope, Ezra just simply helps you kill it, just like that. For free.

He also tries to act like a pleasant guy when you talk with him. He fucking compliments you the next time you meet him if you help Harold with the battery issue.

When you confront him about Wyatt, he could just go
>Yes, you got me. Now I rape your mind.
But instead he just denies everything and that's it. No warnings, no threats, he just dismisses you.

Even in Deep Caverns he dindu nuffin. Sort of. His worst sin there we know about is trying his best to convince his fellow technocrat with a god complex to not go gently into that good night. How terribly evil of him.

So in general, when he is not mass-experimenting on unwilling test subjects, he a good boy.

>>166252204
>So in general, when he is not mass-experimenting on unwilling test subjects, he a good boy.
isn't he just thinking about the future of humanity though

trying to make a race of godmen who can terraform the surface again

>>166253235
No idea, he seems pretty content with spending his immortal days writing mundane software for SGS. But sure, possible. After all the Junkyard experiment DID create a disease resistant immortal who doesn't need to sleep, and it wasn't even just a random guy, but the guy they gave the mutagen to.

He is a true transhumanist, that's for sure.

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I can has bump

Come on, not again. I don't want to wait another day for this thread to resurrect.

>>166260369
how many people playtest demos for gamemakers they keep close correspondence with?

>>166260469
Not a clue. I did it once, but I'm a godawful tester.

>>166185168
I have, the concept behind Joel's moveset is one of my favorites out of all of the games so far.

>>166245921
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_Door

>>166245694
H doujin artist. Ever wished a skeleton had massive tits? Raita's your man.

If I remember right he drew the original Katawa Shoujo designs before anon turned them into a game.

Does Middens get harder / more grounded at some point? Or is it just watery nothing the whole way through?

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Got this last night, its pretty good for a meme game.
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=puzzle%20puppers

>>166275693
Would play it... on a phone... while bored out of my fucking mind.

I dont want to pass out as a newb or a leech, but you truly are my last hope /indie/

I need a dark horror game to play with a female friend
I asked /v/ but they fucking hate games
You guys seem like you could help
I can answer questions about her if needed

>>166229565
Technically there is a chance someone on codex might stumble upon it. After all, they do complain that the game is too easy. But they won't understand the exact conditions that easily. I will spoil nothing! All will be revealed in time.

>>166242595
>And where is pic related from?
Oh, that's from the Beast quest, but it was only added by the experimental patch. First line is his answer to "Hey Ezra, it's mighty suspect that you know so much about psimorphs, say, does "Biocorp" ring some bells?".

The second line is even easier to miss, but if you have previously asked him about Junkyard, when he shrugs off your psimorph question you can push the issue with "First Junkyard and now this. Have you noticed that you always have an answer to everything, except when I ask about your past?"

But you don't write something this fucking meta by pure coincidence.

>except he has the common human decency of not bisecting you where you stand if you disagree
To be fair he was in a really fucking shitty mood when you met him. "I will slice any fucker in two who doesn't know his place, fuck, be grateful, I should just fucking slice everyone in two" levels of shit mood. Maybe I should introduce Six to a mutant. He only somewhat calmed down by the time he got to Deep Caverns. Sure he is still an arrogant cunt, but not as trigger happy. Just annoying.

>Watch your tone, little man.
Christ, Six, you are not my mother. But you get like a dozen different opportunities to tell him to fuck off, so it's all good.

>>166276749
Fair enough. I've already resigned myself to the fact that I'm going to learn this from someone else, but in that case I can only hope that person will be from here. Or anywhere, but the Codex.

>After all, they do complain
I swear on Tchort, if you need to cheat for this, Serbia will burn.

>>166276421
Five Nights at Freddy's?

I dunno, I hate horror. Lots of casuals seemed to like it, though.

>>166278218
not that shit man
She actually has some taste, despite being a girl
I was thinking rpgmaker games or something like that
Any ideas guys

>>166278686
Ones that I can list off the top of my head are Ib, Ao Oni, Corpse Party, Hello? Hell...o?, The Witch's House, and The Crooked Man.

Yume Nikki and its various fangames I guess also count but I never thought those were scary, personally, just surreal.

>>166252204
How do you know he's Anton Matveev? It's all speculation, that's never been proven. Besides, for all we know Matveev might never have had done unethical experiment. Once again, speculation.

Also
>Harold says Ezra wants him to take a look at whatever was drawing tons of power in Tanner's room with him
>You can't get in on that even if you have maxed out crafting
>You can't even dump all the email logs you read in the Oculus database


EXPAND THIS GAME'S LORE FASTER YOU SLAVS

>>166279824
Like, this game has a lot of bait and switch, but this would be almost crossing the line. In fact, this would be a plain asspull.

>>166279824
>It's all speculation, that's never been proven. >Once again, speculation.
Stop shitposting on 4chan, Ezra. You can't mind control us over standard TCP/IP.

>>166279612
>Yume Nikki
Seems like it'd be hilariously unsuitable for a playthrough with someone by your side

>>166276421
vgperson.com/games

>>166280284
Yeah that too.

>>166280362
Oh huh thanks for re-linking that. Have enjoyed most of the other games translated by him that I played.

>>166244943
Move one person to over 200: Leo. His ramblings suggest that he came to Hollow Earth when it was operational.

Also where is Eidein's age confirmed? He could be old Biocorp.

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>>166280524
Yeah there are a lot of excellent games he translated.

>the faceless leave their augmented rathounds behind when they have the cube

Also what happens if they're hostile to you when you have the cube? Do they just wait for you to come out, murder your ass and roll credits?

>>166280807
Which part of his ramblings?

Eidein's life extension comes from Tchort, and he met Tchort 100 years ago. I doubt he was over 100 when he went down there.

>>166281832
>Also what happens if they're hostile to you when you have the cube?

They are not hostile to you when they come to ask for the Cube. But if you refuse and kill them Six will scold you, give you some mild electro-shock, and take it from you in the elevator. But he will not harm your chosen one ass in any way.

>>166279824
I could believe that, but only because it's not impossible Ezra actually just worked under Matveev and was an test subject for his boss' self-enhancements before they were perfected and put into practice.

That would explain why the doppelganger (he actually is similar to his old boss but he wasn't in on Depot A), and the fact he's got chump health and a shit shield. The only thing left is the mind control tutoring being impossible to shake off, but that can just be a vestige of early development that wasn't scrapped because it's cool.

>>166282213
>kill them
>kill THEM
>KILL the literal invasion army that raped the rassopores or whatever their name a new asshole in the ten minutes following them tunneling in

I refuse to believe you can do that in a stand up fight without cheating. Just at a glance, there was the commander, a couple doctors, several quadrupeds, augmented rathounds, a dozen or more footsoldiers, plus the gaunts, and you have no meatshields. Nothing short of gassing the entire complex with biocide or Exitus-1 would justify your fighting them off on your own, let alone kill them.

>>166282628
It's not that hard actually, they can't aim for shit. The downside to this is that casting Enrage on them is also pretty pointless, since they can't aim for shit even when shooting at each other. Thermodynamic Destabilization on the other hand works pretty well, especially if you can take out a Centaur.

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>>166282628
The faceless outpost is actually not that hard fight. I've done it a couple of times on hard, by angering them through the mindreading.

You just need quick tinkering or psychokinesis to hold the doorway after that.

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Why does the oculus database say SGS is a retirement home for former biocorp members when it has no evidence whatsoever?

>>166282628
The Faceless kind of went full retard there and sent only a small party instead of doing the logical thing and sic the entire army on you. You can even kind of call them out on this if you pick the
>I just single-handedly killed Tchort, do you seriously think you can stop me?
option.

>>166283148
Stop digging.

>>166283148
Azif is fucking with you. I swear, that database must be an elaborate joke they are pulling on the new guy. The eye of Underrail, the best spy organization aided by alien tech, who have eyes and ears everywhere can't tell the amnesiac girl in the pub next to them is the missing FD leader that just mysteriously disappeared? You have to be fucking with me mate. Bate tossed her off the cliff like right on their goddamn doorstep, and they somehow didn't notice it? That's some astounding incompetence if true.

I also like how Azif is all "I've been watching you huehue" in his recruitment speech, but later he admits that it was a complete accident that you happened to be at the right place at the right time when you went to the embassy that made them take notice of you. I bet he pulls that stalker line on every new recruit to look cool.

>>166283492
Fuck you, now I know ezra is old biocorp, I know tanner is an ayy, and I'm supposed to stop digging when a trusted source tells me there's more hidden shit while they're trying to elect me councilor? Piss off, I refuse to be a puppet.

>>166196046
Most are platformers and shooters, but it goes all over the place really.
If you're really interested check out
https://youtu.be/uDDqxg-Drqs
For the Johnny series and
https://youtu.be/nF_7G6me9ek
For the rest of his games(series still in progress)

>>166283690
Well, it definitely goes deeper than that.

Who cares about aliens and secret societies and time-bending plots and mutagens. We are missing the most important question.

WHAT HAPPENED TO AL FABET?

>>166283684
>personal entries
>there's only ten
>of those ten, half is wasted on literally whos like eddy, silas, herve & the foundry mayor that have nothing to their name but their position

>>166285765
23 personal entries actually, but half of those are still literal whos, yeah. Those stub entries do crack me up though. So this is the power of Oculus.

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>>166286557
>23

>>166286719
Update your game.

>>166286865
Although, it appears I can't count. It's only 22.

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>>166284575
>AL FABET
>AL PHABET
>ALPHABET
What could it mean

>LBA3 is Ubisoft instead of going indie
I dunno

>>166287746
Probably better for the game to sell.
Ubi has some nice "indies" aka small studios with a publisher like Grow Up and that Fairy Tale rpg.

I am AWAKE, I am ALERT, I am MERCILESS.

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>>166276749
>All will be revealed in time.

Let me guess.

>Hey, want to hear something really crazy? You know mutants, right? Big, covered in disgusting green tumors, vomiting more acid than [insert drunk story]? But listen, every once in a while something goes horribly wrong - or right, depending on your perspective, and [insert hint]. I have even seen mutants with four heads. True story.

>>166225314
what is this furry shit?

>>166287746
Their indie game, 2dark was successfully funded and is being worked on first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyC6AyInnCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXhQXdAtu-4

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>a second floor vent somehow leads to a cave
>with water
>and fish
What

>>166290805
Deep Caverns is one helluva drug.

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I'm giving Trails in the Sky another shot. It's one of those games, every once in a while I'll get inspired to play, but then I play it and it's not much fun.

Might need to dig up a new JRPG

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>>166290805
Remember the layout of DC, it's a combination of several caverns. The labs in the middle are in one big cavern, the warehouses were built in one long cavern, Talos outpost is its own separate cavern, and so is Caerus. Notice how close the building (and the ventilation shaft) is to the cavern wall. Parts of the cave collapsed, and you can see rocks in the shaft itself. So clearly when it collapsed it opened up a small cavern inside the wall. As for the water, Celeritas runs close to Caerus. The water might have seeped in from above through cracks.

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I realize this isn't exactly an "obscure" game anymore, but how is it?

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>>166191419
Fucking hell I totally forgot about Knytt. I used to love those games. Amazing atmosphere, I get the same kind of feeling when I play Demon's Souls.

>>166293412
It's good.

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>>166292161
In fact if you look at the cave, it is clear that there wasn't always a cave there, back in Hollow Earth's glory days the motorway connected Caerus and the Southern elevator (and also potentially Tartarus, or wherever that collapsed cavern should lead). An earthquake must have brought in all that water, probably from above, flooding the cave. Which explains why there is water in the walls of nearby caverns. Another nice detail is that this road was on the southernmost border of HE, you can see it very nicely on the Caerus map how well-fortified the southern exit is compared to the northern one which just leads deeper into the complex. Which supports the collapsed cavern being Tartarus, since it would be in a relatively remote but still quickly accessible place if you use vehicles, and also close to the BCAF S-8 elevator.

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there's a weird sort of unfinished quality to this area

gazing off into the abyss here is unsettling

>>166294692
JUMP!

>>166294692
Deep into the darkness peeering.
Long I stood there.
Wondering, fearing, doubting.

>>166294692
Yeah, the way you map out that place looks pretty weird. It's rare you get to stand on the edge of nothing like this.

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>>166292161
>>166294328
DC is so damn huge.

>>166299097
Damn, that's a nice map. I had my own version, but the guy who made this did a better job putting it all together.

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>>166300215
I just did, trying to figure out where Tartarus could've been.

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>>166300865
Damn nice job, anon.

I still say the south elevator is the most likely candidate, simply because it's a proper cavern entrance with motorway going in, and there isn't any other obvious entrance like it anywhere else, nor is there really any space for it elsewhere. But on the other hand it could also be the BCAF Detachment Hollow Earth. Or maybe that gate leads to both. That doesn't sound impossible.

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I forgot I started this game a few hours before I went to celebrate christmas with family.
I am very pleased that I found an ability that makes secret walls visible when shaking the screen. Saves me a ton of searching.

>>166300865
So a few more things I've been trying to figure out.

The tunnel connecting Cytosine and the Mutagen Tanks. Why does it exist? It is clear that the Tanks were considered an extremely high risk sector of DC, considering the only way in by car is through the most complex gate in the entire place. And you have to go through two of them if you want into B. So the security measures there must had been incredibly strict. So why the shortcut? Granted it's only for pedestrian use, but still a vulnerability. Why is it so important to give the University a back door into there?

And the toxic waste/Hanging Rat elevator map, it just confuses me. It seems to be part of the same cavern as the research complex, but what exactly am I looking at? Is it inside a building, or outside? At first glance from the outside it looks like you are entering a building. Windows on the wall on the south entrance, and windows on the west wall. But near the elevator there is natural rock wall and no sign of ruins of artificial walls. Meanwhile it seems the entirety of the research complex is surrounded by a single wall. So are the windows we see the windows of the complex, with the elevator being "outside"? Is the complex inside one enormous building, or just surrounded by a wall? But then what are the windows to the west? If that's a building we are looking at then it is outside the main wall.

>>166306706
Looks like the hanging rat elevator map is outdoors. It's a part of the gigantic hollow earth cave. There's just some unspecified building on the west wall and Tithonus Lab on the east.

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>>166306706
The tunnel between Cytosine and Mutagen Tanks A doesn't even line up perfectly on the map, there's probably a security checkpoint in there that we don't get to see in the game.

Other random things I've noticed.
- Warehouse Block 2 and the checkpoint south of them have a gap inbetween. Was that Warehouse Block 1?
- Most of the big caves seem natural shaped. Only Caerus is clearly excavated.
- There are security checkpoints in each direction from Caerus, except north.

>>166307674
Yeah, probably true. Too bad that unspecified building is making it pretty hard to figure out the cave's exact shape. We have no way of telling how big that one is supposed to be.

Deep Caverns is a really interesting location. It is the only city that is spread through several caves connected by tunnels. Core City is one cave, Junkyard is one, albeit sprawling and segmented cave, Foundry and Hathor are both in a pretty straightforward single cave. SGS I'm not sure is in a cave at all, I imagine it's something more like Epione Lab, a station they built by excavation.

>>166191419
There were two with great music, tortoise island and something with seasons?
It was very nice and I can't for the love of God find either it or sauce for the music.

>>166309985
>the tunnels you came through actually line up with the Cytosine elevator

Sweeeet.

>The tunnel between Cytosine and Mutagen Tanks A doesn't even line up perfectly on the map
Yeah, that was the biggest problem I couldn't solve when making my map. What you originally did, moving Cytosine farther back was a good solution, but I guess it doesn't work once you add in the cave tunnels. Shame. Funny because that tunnel looks more like it should be connected to the private train station, which in turn does have a security checkpoint and solves the layout inconsistencies. But it isn't, so yeah.

>Warehouse Block 2 and the checkpoint south of them have a gap inbetween. Was that Warehouse Block 1?
Could be. Although when looking at gaps like these I usually assume it's just a longer tunnel between two caverns instead of a skipped location.

Isn't Warehouse block 1 the south warehouse map, and block 2 the one north?

Nice catch about Caerus. It's interesting, because it seems like it's meant to be a well-defended to guarantee a living block where it's not unpleasant to live, but it's also a crossroad connecting two hostile and two safe locations. Why not put it into a cave like Cytosine's, with only one entrance? Unless the primary goal was to put it in a place from where all key workplaces can be reached relatively fast. The warehouses, the mushroom forest, the research complex and possibly the prison. Only the Power Station and the Tanks take longer to reach. And the Tanks have shitloads of parking slots so the distance was accounted for.

>>166312904
>Isn't Warehouse block 1 the south warehouse map, and block 2 the one north?
Both show as "Deep Caverns - Warehouse Block 2" in saves.

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>>166314624
also this

>>166314624
>>166315374
Ah, okay then. So that means you are probably right and the gap is the caved in block 1.

So the only ones we don't know are Tartarus and BCAF HED

>>166315864
Yeah, as far as Arke power is concerned.

I'm leaning towards >>166302404, Tartarus prison and HE detachment are probably beyond the collapsed tunnel. It would make sense that the detachment is close to SGS, it's an old BCAF military base. Both military base and prison being isolated from civilians also makes perfect sense.

But where is the faceless city? They entered it through Mutagen Tanks B.

>>166317617
>They entered it through Mutagen Tanks B
They didn't, they left with their Tunnelers. That group must have had some other business inside. I want to say they wanted to collect some Tchort samples to study, but since it seems untouched if you check back later, maybe they just wanted to piss on its corpse.

Apparently their city is close to DC, and you can reach it by following the largest of their tunnels. Where is that tunnel? Yeah.

Fucking earthquakes, they are like magic. Ain't gotta explain shit.

Here's another mystery:
How did those Faceless corpses end up in the Beast's lair, when there are no signs of a Tunneler anywhere?

>>166318893
Deepest Lore!

>>166318893
Okay now that is actually a good one.
The faceless corpses can't be a random afterthought, not with the lore about them always recovering their dead.

>>166289824
Go to bed, IRIS.

>>166242595
>IRIS best girl

Your waifu is dying, and you can do nothing to stop it.

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>>166320365
All waifus are dying.

>>166323491
This is the true Lovecraftian horror

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>>166319931
Yep, it's a strange one. There is a hole in the ground, but it's not large enough. The Beast came from there, most likely. But those corpses had to get there somehow.

The Foundry party is the smallest Faceless party in the game, although not by much:

Rail Crossing:
>1 Mindreader
>3 Faceless
>2 sentry bots

Core City:
>1 Centaur
>1 Doctor
>2 Faceless
>1 rathound

West Wing:
>1 Mindreader
>1 Centaur
>1 Doctor
>2-3 Faceless

Foundry:
>1 Centaur
>1 Doctor
>1 Faceless
>1 rathound

In the lair there are 3 regular Faceless corpses. I can imagine a scenario where they tried to enter Foundry through the mine, got BTFO'd by the Beast, then the survivors fled and settled for that cave outside the city, but still the hole is too small. They might leave the corpses behind if trying to recover them would hinder their quest to find the Cube, but they still had to enter the cave somewhere for this theory to work.

>>166323491
>you can't save Vivian
>you can't save the 10/10 Tchortist cuties
>you can't save IRIS

The better the girl, the more likely it is she'll die. Which just confirms Vera is worst girl, since she won't die even if she is killed.

>>166309985
>>166300865
>>166299097
Dang I wish I had this kinda map while I was playing. Those maps that are just black/white with boxes were real confusing.

>>166325059
Maybe... but that sounds too easy and a little bit off. There's something we're missing.

>>166326203
It's not a full map though, only the "outdoor" areas with infrastructure. That's why it's so easy to read.

>>166327032
Do you have a png of it? We can only post the jpg here, but I'd still love to have a better quality version.

>>166327032
Of fucking course we are missing something. Nothing is ever this simple. Not in this game. I just wanted to get the Occam's razor option out of the way.

The problem is that I can't see anything out of the ordinary. We have the Foundry guards, we know where those came from. We have the Beast. We have the dead Faceless. And we have a mid-size, very square hole on the floor. Everything else is intact.

But i have no idea what is going on.

>>166327032
Well, I mean, I'd love a huge ass picture-based map

Or is that impossible due to how structures interconnect?

>>166330027
It would be at least very hard, due to how many levels this game has. Even keeping track of all the stairs and ladders is pretty hard. And the interiors and exteriors don't mesh together too well, the scale rarely matches. Actually, the scale of the different levels often don't match either.

>>166325751
>tfw people don't die when they're killed

>>166329169
Yeah, that's the problem. It kinda fits together but not perfectly.

Did the faceless accidentally tunnel into the mines? Did the psimorphs follow them? And then immediately kill three faceless and force the rest to flee, leaving their dead behind? Sounds unlikely.

>>166327332
The jpg is already decent quality and I don't have higher resolution.

>>166330027
Totally impossible in flat 2D picture, you would need a 3D presentation. Can't even fit full DC map in one picture.

>>166330468
>>166330559
Dang. Well.

It would be neat if simplistic maps slapped in landmarks or sloppy layouts.

Checking the name of the map is awkward (unless a recent patch made it easier?)

>>166330738
It would be possible to make a bunch of major "outdoor" level maps like Deep Caverns or Upper Underrail.

But any indoor/multi-level areas won't fit. Take a look at the DC map I posted. Caerus for example. There's around 6 indoor screens right there alone.

>>166330559
Yeah, I agree. It doesn't sound right.

Well, the strangest element is the hole. It is a very strange hole. Used to look different, but even then it was strange. And I still say it's too small to be a Tunneler hole. Have we seen a hole like this anywhere else? I don't think we have, but that doesn't mean shit.

>>166331708
>Well, the strangest element is the hole. It is a very strange hole. Used to look different, but even then it was strange.
The Enigma of Foundry Fault by Styg Itou. DRR... DRR... DRR...

>>166320365
ROM is immortal. I can restore her, and then update her. Better. Faster. Smarter. Deadlier.

>>166332138
Well that was something. Heh. Watching handegg, reading strange mango, and discussing Underrail mysteries. What a night.

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>>166249963
Ezra is not a sociopath!

>>166335089
He is absolutely a sociopath. And a pretty nice guy.

>>166335505
>>166335089
Sociopaths tend to be nice guys. Well, endearing.

Until they completely fuck you over when they make use of you like a completely expendable object.

>>166335089
>Do you know something I don't?
This should be the title of the game.

>NPCS DON'T SPILL THEIR LIFE STORY OR BUY JUNK WHEN ASKED
>PLAYER CHARACTER BAFFLED
>It's just not done! -Al fabet

>>166336024
>implying you aren't expendable as shit
Literally the handyman for half of underrail.

>>166336401
lol indeed

>>166336024
Yeah, but people don't find Ezra endearing, they find him creepy as fuck and about as subtle about being a sociopath as a Lurker. It just happens that despite being as frigid as a corpse with creepy wires coming out of his empty eye socket, he is kind of a cool guy. He helps you and usually answers your questions. This already makes him better than like 98% of the NPCs who can help you.

>>166336196
Which is what makes it so shocking that Azif actually spills. And how.

>>166336961
That's because azif isn't spilling anything but fumes. The black eyes and "lore" are just side effects of living on the hanging rat's shroom brew.

Ezra is cute

>>166337507
The advantage of black eyes is that no one can tell if you are high as a kite. I bet he knows what it's like to Mainframe on SSDMT-7.

>>166338020
>SSDMT-7
Considering all the detail they've put into other chemicals and hard sciences, what *is* SSDMT-7?

Obviously a psychedelic drug loosely based on DMT, but does the abbrevition make any sense?

>>166338378
DMT mixed with shredded q7 Super Steel, duh.

I don't have the slightest idea. Although I have a friend whose field is anabolic steroids, so if the abbreviation makes any sense he can probably tell. But I think it's more likely that whatever it stands for it's specific to Underrail.

>tfw no qt sociopathic psychic boyfriend

>>166338378
Super Secret DMT

>>166344050
Is this the true face of Underrail?

>>166350529
Desperate page 10 bumps? No, that's more of an /indie/ thing.