This kills the Saipan edition

>>166180724
/wowsg

>>166180724
>couldn't even make a decent OP

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Best girl, best DD

Friendly reminder to team kill Mosh for being a Discord and namefag aspie

friendly reminder that the time for the day of rope has come

MAGA

>>166181151
>girl

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>>166181320

Friendly reminder that all your favorite botegrills are improved with the addition of a penis to their anatomy.

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I have toiled long and hard for this day.
But at last, I too shall know >tfw QT hotel

>>166181496
Followed shortly by
>tfw on fire in 3 different places

>>166181320
PROOVE IT OR FUCCCCC OFF

>>166182214
[Links you a shitton of shota]

>>166182646
your prooves proof nothing

I am drunk as fuck and I want to brawl.

Let's do this cocksuckers.

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BOTES on NA is so fuckin dead lmao

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>>166182714
>yfw

What's worse?
>citpen a guy on your first salvo
>left with 3 digit HP and he disappears out of detection range
>go to other flank and rape your team

Or
>team can't hit a 100+ HP DD for five minutes

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>>166181496
Congratulations anon. Treat her well, and destroy your enemies with many blazing salvos of 46cm hellfire.

>>166181496
When will WG nerf that OP no-skill ship?

>>166184415
Citpen a battleship from full HP to 5k health, then every single penetration does no damage.

Citpen a cruiser down to 3 digit HP and he just engages in bote spinning mode until some other guy with fast firing guns gets a hit

Fire my load at a DD at close range and everything misses.

>>166184616
They already did. It's called G. Kurfurst.

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>>166184616
>Yamato
>OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImrVBqzw-p0#t=19m00s

Iowa is fucking garbage in solo, you can't do shit, accuracy is a joke, guns are a joke, you need to turna bit and you lose 30l hp.
Even though i have 110k average and 75% w/r on her i still feel like she's a fucking garbage unfun ship.

>>166184756
>Show retard Yamato
>This somehow make the ship balanced

>>166185018
+10 doubloons!

>>166184984
>accuracy is a joke, guns are a joke
>average is 110k
I don't follow, isn't that normal?
Also she's fast, you'll never get left behind.

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>>166184984
>you can't do shit, accuracy is a joke, guns are a joke
> i have 110k average and 75% w/r on her

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Logged in right after the patch to see I have a captain that is not retrained so i sent a ticket that day in wich I only noticed them that all my captains except for one were retrained but didn't ask them to retrain my captain they responded that that was supposed to happen in 0.6.0 why did god make me autistic?

How long do I have to be away to qualify for a referal code ?
Think my last game was in November

>>166186221
3 months

>>166185454
Accuracy is not as good as it seems, even with the 11% dispersion mod.
Her speed is good to kite enemies but her agility is so poor that you can't get out of bad situations and if you do, you risk getting your citpussy ravaged because of the idiotic raised citadel.
Damage output is mediocre when bow on.
>>166185783
It's due to bad teams and playing solo, this ship is very weak when unsupported and getting teamed with potatoes doesn't help.

>>166186284
Is it worth it to wait or should I just jump in , what are the rewards for me anyway ? I know the guy who gives me the referal gets some silver and a port slot

NEW SEA SERVER CLAN LIST HAS FINALLY BEEN UPDATED

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vRy28DqDeIip36rHKUMy_tGVQTkA3tmKjbHVDF0Ui1w/edit#gid=0

First section (rows 5 to 24) are "unicum" clans, second section are "good" clans, third section are "shitter" clans.

>BOTES: 一個普通的,接近一線的公會 基本是醬油名 沒人會記得(滑稽
>BOTES: An average, edging close to unicum clan, with a clan tag that is named after a pun which no one really remembers

Who the fuck made this spreadsheet? BOTES isn't a pun.

>>166186352
>what are the rewards for me anyway
You will get 3M silver, Texas and 80k free exp

>tfw no-one wants to div with me

>>166186538
I'm tired of playing this game and just wanted to boat spin

>>166186426
The guy who made this spreadsheet is probably thinking of an old anime called School Days, where the "nice boat" meme comes from, and probably is mistaken that the [BOTES] clan is named after that.

The last episode of School Days was cancelled from airing on TV because it involves the female protagonist stabbing the MC to death, and a week ago there was a real murder incident in Japan involving a stabbing of a boyfriend. They thought it was a bad idea to air the episode (insensitive, muh feelings, etc), so they cancelled it and put in images of luxury boats instead. Some guy in a 4chan /a/ thread said "nice boat", and it became a meme in China, Taiwan and Japan.

For people who actually don't know where [BOTES] comes from: "Botes" comes from RHExcelion's twitch stream. RHE is the leader of Commie-subs fansub group, and he coined the term "bote" when referring to Kantai Collection characters, when he was playing the KanColle browser game on his stream. e.g. "I want to gently fuck that bote". "Botes" later caught on in /a/ once the anime started airing.

>>166186538
So? Who cares what other people think? Do you play for other people? No.

I believe in you Anon. Believe in the me who believes in you.

>>166186439
Well I guess I can postpone getting back into the game for another 2weeks or so

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>>166186650
>gently
:^)

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>>166187017
Yes, gently.

>>166187017
I wanna fug a poi.

>>166187017
I wanna poi a fug.

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>>166187045

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>>166187172
Rude.

>>166187302
STOP TRYING TO FUCK BOTES

>>166187328
>he doesn't want to fug a bote

>>166187328
If you want to fuck BOTES, you need to join the line.

Contact Precisionista on NA server, and he will add you to the queue. :^)

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>>166187328
i want to fuck hoers :^)

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>>166187713
You are the very worst of them all.

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>>166187985
thanks!

Can boat be muscular men?

>>166188139
If they are Russian, yes.

>>166188139
no, but they can be cute fuccbois

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>>166188139
Muscular women ok?

>>166188436
Those tits are strange...

>>166188250
And Germans.

I know the T1 talents are mostly useless for battleships, but why does everyone pick 2 plons?
Does Priority Target not assist with invisible DDs pointing torpedoes at you?

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>>166188612
What do you mean

>>166188746
If you're myteriously spotted then you should brace for torp strikes

>>166188847
Those breasts are rather abnormal.

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>>166188436
>tfw all you wanna be is a good admiral to his sexy secretary ships

>>166188746
I've decided to pick priority target on pretty much everything, really helps BBs with knowing you are being stealth-torped

>>166188746
Doesn't Priority Target only work when someone is pointing their main guns at you, and don't most DDs have torps with far longer range than their turrets?
Seems like it wouldn't work.

>>166190193
it's just based on target locking
which works for torpedoes too, you can target things with your torps even if they're outside of your main gun range

>>166190193
It works when someone chooses you as their target

>>166190193
It works when someone presses X on you to lock you, which you have to do to get lead indicator on torps.

>>166187302
Is she okay?

>>166191438
Why would the filename ever tell lies, anon?

For Yamato, should I take Steering Gear Mod 2 or Damage Control Party 2?
I always take Steering Gear on cruisers, unsure how much it helps on the big unmaneuverable battleships.

>>166192442
It brings her rudder down to "only" 18s from 22s, so yeah it's pretty important.
I think I'd kill myself if I had to play high tier BBs without the rudder shift mod.

>>166192442
I have had maybe 25% of my games where steering gears might have helped me dodge an additional torpedo

On the other hand I've had 100% of battles where I've been lit on fire continuously, so for that reason I argue damagecon is far more useful along with BoS and the fire duration reduction flag.

Debate me motherfuckers

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>tfw you can perfectly pinpoint the drunk sessions in your stats

I kinda feel sorry for my div buddies now

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Just tried Kagero today.
>Radio Location
>Radar
>Sonar
>Planes
>Horrible torpedo detection range
Jesus fucking christ, if torpedo boats weren't useless before, they certainly are in this patch. Their current state is even sadder than CVs.

>>166192732
Forgot to mention Priority Target. Just kill me now.

I haven't played in years and some guy just shot over a mountain island. How?

>>166192732
Have not touched any of mine DD so far, mainly playing cruisers though.

>>166193001
Gunbote DDs are fine, I've been having a blast in all of mine. It's literally just torpedo boats that are getting fucked right now.

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>>166193054
This. Lebe is still fun as fuck as ever and with Prio Target feels even better.

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>French BB line still not announced

>>166192670

I'll debate you. If you're at that point where you're being HE spammed, your fires get refreshed anyway, so the fire reduction does nothing.

On the other hand, with steering gear, you not only avoid damage (both torps and better ability to dodge long range AP/HE fire), you also increase you ability to GTFO if shit gets hot, works well with PT skill that tells you 10 people are aiming at you.

Steering gear is a preventative measure, while DCS module is a treating the symptom without dealing with the cause (the cause being not getting hit the in the first place, and if you're getting hit, using steering gear to expedite an exit plan).

>>166192938
USN DD or CA.

>>166193648
Whats gonna be their special niche? The ability to surrender at the start of the match and get scuttled by your teammates?

>>166193740

Besides that special ability, a lot of their designs are going to make use of quad turrets facing forward, making them excellent for attacking.

>>166193724
>I'll debate you. If you're at that point where you're being HE spammed, your fires get refreshed anyway, so the fire reduction does nothing.
>does nothing

what? If anything steering gear is the "reactive measure" because if you need an extra 25% rudder shift to dodge torps you aren't maneuvering or changing course speed constantly, Circon.

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Can I get a referral code? I'm on EU.

>>166194252
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/6jpG2JZ

Here you go, friendo

>>166181136
Yeah, I slipped up. If Mosh is kill, I can make a proper one next time.

>>166193725
Cheers.

Who the fuck is Mosh?

>>166194129

Rudder shift lets you carry out preventative measures faster than if you didn't have it, also you can't sail faster than torpedo bombers. Once they're coming, it's a matter of shooting some die and using superior steering to sail through the torpedo gap.

>>166194307
Thanks.

>>166194448

A meme.

>>166194129
If you think the only reason you'd want a quicker rudder is to dodge torps then you're an idiot.

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>>166187713
And lo, it shall be purged with holy prometheum so it can infest weak minds no more.

>>166194592
then what are these other reasons anon? Are you going to be dodging incoming fire because you're sitting at 20km doing nothing for your team?

>>166194448
One of benlis' loyal lackeys. They both even used to browse the same generals before coming to /wowsg/.

>>166192732
>useless
Odd, all the Kagero's I've seen are doing good.

>>166194656
Navigating tight Islands.

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>moved a captain to a ship before 0.6
>didn't start retraining him
>patch didn't retrain him
I'm just fucking retarded

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>>166186650

We also used it in Steel Ocean. No Botes Allowed.

>>166194656
You don't have to be sitting at 20km back to be dodging shells you know? Also being more responsive to new threats and being able to change armor angling more quickly, assisting your slow as fuck turrets in getting on target, being able to disengage quicker, being able to maneuver around terrain easier, being able to deal with incoming strike aircraft easier, and obviously dodging torpedoes.

>>166194643
no

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>asking for div in /vg/ chat
>no one answers
I wish I'm not a greenshitter.

>>166195164
server/tier?

>>166194643
>Gay Knight
Shit taste

>>166194448
qtest of wowsg

>>166195390
but there's plenty more qt'er wowsgs

>>166195297
SEA
Any tier

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>>166195390
No. Hotelposter is the QTest.

>>166195554
like who ?

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>>166192724
>tfw sober I'm terrible
>that magical point between sober and drunk I play pretty good
>shitfaced I'm terrible

Strange. I played a match and there was infinite ammo?

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What nets you more exp/credits?

>getting the killshot on the last enemy ship
>assist capture on enemy base with 3-4 other ships

>>166197525
capping should give you more XP
killing an enemy on which you have also dealt a lot of damage gives you more credits

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https://youtu.be/GL0zfij2lew?t=18m58s

>arrogant piece of shit calling out another arrogant piece of shit for being an arrogant piece of shit

pot, meet kettle

good fucking riddance lmao

he did have a lot of valid points about the game and playerbase as a whole though

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>>166198493

Yeah I laughed and shook my head. Many valid points all around, but knowing how arrogant Flamu is, hes probably already fuming.

wtf they did to captain skills again.

What's best tier 1 skill. They all look pretty bad?

>>166198781
which bote dingus

>>166198781
look at flamu's vid

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Y-you too

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>>166199042
I go that 'good offer' from our dearest merchant friends yesterday.

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Is it acceptable to use spotting aircraft on the Friedie until you unlock the Gun control system?

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Regia Marina when?

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>>166186426
SEA sure goes hard with this kind of thing. Pretty interesting to read though.

>mfw i never see WG discounts when I'm in Port
:(

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>>166199042
>trying to get you hooked on premium time early on so you'll never want to play without it

I know their plan because i fell for it years ago

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>>166194382
I'm around, just been asleep when the new threads were being made the last few days

How far/close is the distance between a torpedo bomber and its target for torpedo run IRL?

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>>166186426
>大佬
I like how the Chinese term for a unicum is a Big Guy.

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>>166201213

>>166200919
Probably about 500 meters or closer.

>>166200919
Shorter than it is in game.

>>166200919
IIRC release distance for the IJN Type 91 torpedo was around 1000m or so

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>>166201428

>>166201478
>>166201513
>>166201958
Then why do people complain about TB arming distance in-game being too close?

>>166202293
IRL TBs required a long, straight run in, and couldn't pull an intertialess 180° turn after dropping.

>>166202293
because game balance and real life are two different things, retard

>>166202401
CV planes with realistic energy bleed when?

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>>166202293
Because torpedo bombers required a long, slow, and low attack angle on a ship.

>>166201213
It's probably just me, but I don't like the word unicum. Every time I heard it, my mind twists it to "unique cum".

>>166202876
Modern english was a mistake

>>166202819
non-UFO flight model would be enough

doesn't have to be super-realistic, just not this UFO shit

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>2x first win weekend, stoked about trying different builds and grinding a bunch of botes near the end of their shelf life
>Get food poisoning and am mostly bedridden and LOW ENERGY

This isn't fair.

Can someone give me a referral code? I am planning to play on EU.

>>166203513
This is Trump's America

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>tfw just got 3 citadel hits on 3 german BBs at close range

this shit better stays this way

>>166203804
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/56YeazD

>>166199618
>Regia Marina when?
2018 at the earliest.

>>166204106
So when do we get to Make American BBs Great Again by giving Iowa and Montana their correct citadel hitboxes and giving Colorado the proper WW2 refits?

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>>166205308
This is a disaster.

when will you say sorry to iChase for being right about RDF being overblown?

little fat chink was right and is literally our guy

>>166205903
Kill yourself discord aspie

>>166205903

Except it wasn't overblown at all. It's too precise, has no counter, is easy to fit into any build that isn't secondary or aa spec, and becomes increasingly necessary as more people take it.

>>166205903
Since he wasn't right, never. RDF is a clusterfuck.

>>166205903
So far I've still seen no argument for it being in the game, only damage control like 'it won't be a big deal because not that many people will take it'. Sure, it hasn't completely broken the game yet, but that's a pretty fucking shitty standard to judge whether it should be in the game or not.

>>166207010
/wowsg/ is one of the most anti-baBBy places around though.

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>>166207171
This, death to baBBies.

>>166207171
>not that many people will take it
literally any competetive DD and CL build will use it, and quite a few CA builds will use it as well.

>>166207641
Yes I'm well aware of that. Though I've seen plenty of people continue with that defense of it because it really hasn't been that common so far, at least not in the games I've been playing on NA.
Still doesn't mean it shouldn't be removed.

>>166207792
>really hasn't been that common so far
Wait till more people get 19 points.

>>166207641
Yeah, but that's literally the only argument anybody seems to come up with in favor of RDF.

In related news, "Nikolai isn't actually OP as fuck because most players will never have it." Makes about as much sense as saying RDF is fine because not everybody will use it.

>>166207171
I refuse to div with baBBies.

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Stealth memes or Rudder memes on Desu Moines?

PS Im awful in Dank Memes

>>166207641
Any competent player doesn't need it in randoms, as a 4 points skill it's pretty shitty and situational.
I'd rather have CE, AFT, MAA, MS for my ships.
In competitive, might work.

>>166207641
Depends on what tier you're talking about. In competitive play it's practically mandatory for DDs and CAs. At low tiers only sealclubbers will have it because new players don't have a 10pt captain, which will make things even more sealclubby than ever.

Now watch the idiot devs "fix" this by making RDF an free passive like Situational Awareness.

>>166208308
I'd go with stealth memes desu. Though the rudder would be great when DD bullying.

>>166208371
That would actually, completely kill DDs as a class

The only saving grace for this skill is that they prevented CVnts from making use of it

>>166208336
It's great in Shima. With how goddamn shit it is at knife fighting, the location finder tells you where the fuck to not go.

>>166208531
>is that they prevented CVnts from making use of it
And thats pure bullshit.

>>166208481
RL + Stealth memes + Radar also seems like an optimal DD bully build. Theres only a .7km window where they can see desu memes and cat be spotted by radar

>>166208610
>baww, i don't muh DDs to sneak up on me
Get fucked.

>>166208610
No, fuck you CVnt apologist

>>166208610
Yeah it's a real shame it wasn't more gamebreaking.

>all BBs charge in, don't need sniping
>well ok, let's charg--
>everyone turns around to flee and leaves me to die
Every time.

Haven't played in months. Where to get infos on what captain skills to get?

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>>166202401
>>166202819

Sure, the moment we have historical effective AA. Which equals to at best with VT fuses 4/10 planes shot down per sortie. The most effective anti-bomber weapon was fighters. The moment we have that, the moment we can start implemented realistic plane mechanics.

Oh and AA that doesn't fire through islands and fire through its own ship in a 360 AA bubble.

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>>166209319
pastebin

>CAs and BBs keep AP loaded and only switch to HE when appropriate

holy kek the pastebin is comedy gold

>>166209625
I'm new, why's it funny?

>>166209749
>CAs keep AP loaded
Maybe if you're British.

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>Biscuit spamming SOS against 3 other ships
>"coming to give you smoke"
>he runs away from me

>>166209862
>not playing with meme USN 203 AP

>>166209390
Well if we do that, we need to give carriers their actual plane groups, and realistic pilot training.

It'd just end up shitting on IJN carriers.

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>>166210004
>"NorCal, smoking you up"
>"Affirmative!" / "Thank You!"
>promptly sails out of the smoke

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the state of my games recently...maybe I should give botes a rest this weekend.

just had a game where we lost 5 ships in 5 minutes, I wonder how people could be so bad; it boggles my mind.

>>166209625
t. dunning kruger shitter

>>166210442
so you keep AP loaded in your CA at all times

>>166210220

Well of course you could balance it, but USN needs to be best at something. WG used some bullshit excuse of ultimate battleship for Yamato being blatantly OP for over a year. We can at least give USN the king of carriers and AA right?

>>166210518
so you dont keep AP loaded in your BB at all times

>>166210519
>We can at least give USN the king of carriers and AA right?
)))))

>>166210703
ya I do but that's not the funny part of what I quoted. Don't be such an uptight little bitchboy

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>>166210706

No fuck your ))))))))))
USN had the best AA systems of the war and fucking had it as a doctrine. For them to be outclassed at any tier in any capacity by fucking paper ships or other nations is complete bullshit.

>>166210767
>I quoted more than the part I was laughing at, then laughed at the whole quote in my post

Wow you really are fucking stupid, huh?

>>166210846
whoa.... you really btfo me there anon.... fuck man.....

>>166210519
Yeah, but IJN would be completely impotent past tier 6 or so with CV's. Zekes and Val's only go so far.

>>166209390
None of the things you said are correct.
Feel bad and fuck off Anumati.

>dragon thing event ship
>another myoko
WHY IS IT ALWAYS MYOKO
I HAVE FUCKING
5023059021 MYOKOS
AND 501928590128690215689120 KONGOS
MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOP

>>166210835
u mad ?

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>>166210991
>You could balance it out, but USN needs to be best at something

>>166211114
>Feel bad
What are you fucking 5? Get the fuck out you stupid nigger.

>Then came the creation of the "VT", or proximity, fuze. Essentially a small radar unit in the nose of a shell that told the round to explode when it came close to an airplane, the VT fuze changed the AA game forever. Instead of requiring a direct hit to explode, or a fuse set for a certain altitude (with no guarantee that the target will fly at that height), now a round could go off nearby a target and cause some damage... perhaps even enough to kill the plane. The US Navy found that it would take about 1000 5" rounds to shoot down a plane using time fused shells. It took around 250 using VT shells. Please note that the 5"/38cal could fire, in good conditions, around 15 rounds/minute. That means, in theory, an Atlanta-class and their 16 guns could fire 250 rounds in just over one minute. It had an effective range of about eight miles in the AA role.
http://www.usni.org/store/books/history/naval-anti-aircraft-guns-and-gunnery
http://www.ww2hc.org/articles/proximityfuse.pdf
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/33sa2x/effectiveness_of_shipborne_antiair_in_wwii/
http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/K/a/Kamikazes.htm

>250 VT rounds per plane
>Atlanta shoots down 1 plane per minute

Meanwhile in fucking history and reality.
>Fighters are so effective that the battle of Marianas is called a Turkey shoot by the fucking pilots.

>>166211727
Yes.

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>>166210962
>getting this mad about being an illiterate dumbass that cant even comprehend his own writing

stay in school buddy

>>166211865
I mean quoting me about balance again. I don't play CV's. Aren't the USN and IJN CV's pretty tit for tat?

>>166211865
>muh carriers
>muh realism
Fuck off, it's an arcade game and it needs to be balanced.

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Akatsuki is a pretty fun torpbote.

>>166212141

No, IJN is vastly superior due shitty CV and AA mechanics favoring them.

>>166212226

>backpeddling this hard when blow the fuck out

>>166212141
>Aren't the USN and IJN CV's pretty tit for tat?
No lel.

>>166211865
>he believed ameridumb propaganda
lol

>its yet another NAutistic chimpout

>>166211865
>your quote
which notes that the Atlanta's 5-inch shells
>had an effective range of about eight miles in the AA role.
So I assume that you would also be okay with those 250 shells per minute starting to hit at 13 km?
Your quote is also pulled from
>https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/33sa2x/effectiveness_of_shipborne_antiair_in_wwii/
which also says that
>By the end of the war, the use of kamikaze actually made numerical sense against the wall of anti-aircraft and fighter opposition. The Japanese calculated that to score 12 hits using conventional attack methods, you needed to send 300 planes out, and you would lose 220 of them.
So, if we want to run this historically, a carrier would lose 18.33 planes for every torp hit it managed to get.

>>166212553
>he thinks whatever he believes isn't propaganda
lol

>>166212749
i believe you are dumb, but i assure you it's a truth so self evident that nobody need bother spreading propaganda about it

>>166211865
>>166212621
I also noticed that you're actually only using 1/4th of the sources you cited, and that single source is the rebbit comment. Your remaining links are the citations in that one comment.

While there is nothing wrong with using a properly cited tertiary source, you throwing three "sources" when you have only read one of them suggests you were trying to appear well-cited. In fact, of the 3 sources from the reddit comments you quoted not a single one brings up the statistic mentioned in the actual quotes, and was used by the author to explain the history of the VT shell rather than any substantiation of your argument.

>Meanwhile in fucking history and reality.
>Fighters are so effective that the battle of Marianas is called a Turkey shoot by the fucking pilots.
Unless you're deliberately being disingenuous you should already know that this was a case of the Japanese fielding unskilled and inexperienced pilots against skilled American pilots well after the IJN had depleted its experienced pilots.

>>166212621
>>166213123
BTFO

>get ship I've wanted since forever
>excited to try it out
>10 losses in a row
>every time despite trying my hardest
>10% winrate with ship
Well alright. Time to make profile private.

>>166212621
>So, if we want to run this historically, a carrier would lose 18.33 planes for every torp hit it managed to get.
nonono

You don't understand. We only want 'historical' when it helps the CVnt click on things to delete them, and makes AAA useless.
Like it was in the beta, when we lost 100k players in four months becasue of the litteral skycancer.

>smoke screen expert is useless on DDs because an additional 20% is unnoticeable when you can already lay it over a wide area
>smoke screen expert makes RN CLs worse because it makes it harder to escape the first puff, thus narrowing the window of what speed you have to be going to make the second happen
They really didn't think this one through.

>>166213635
Yeah but at least those few CVnts were having fun with their totally balanced 90% win rate.

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>>166212621
Speaking of that, I'm mostly uneducated on plane vs ship combat, but wasn't dive bombing ships pretty piss poor at hitting/sinking ships? It seems like they'd only be good at disabling and making crews scuttle the ship due to fire damage.

>>166211865
Are you autistic man?
How many times do you have to be disproved about the carrier myth before you start understanding that's a fucking history meme?
Fall on a sword please.

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>>166198493
OPG is the most cancerous group of players I've ever met in a video game.

>Believes they are the best and above everyone else
>Refuses to sign up for SL because of a rule that no longer exists (a rule that stated both teams cant move until spectators are dead)
>Got beaten and embarrassed in SL season 3, barely made it past qualifiers
>OPG members cant win high tiers without a CV in random battles
>OPG insults weebs and people watching anime on a daily basis to look more "alpha" in a video game
>OPG always queues for ranked battles with 8-9 members at once to be on the same team with voice communication because they are dogshit
>OPG acts like sunshine and butterflies on the outside
>OPG members camp at the back in every single battle
>OPG always team kill because they think it makes them look cool, alpha and righteous

Just watch KamiSamurai or GeneralDort, they screech, rage and kick people from divisions when they lose. Don't believe a fucking word from OPG when they trash talk others. Do not fucking believe them when pretend to be nice, that's just a character they're putting out to hide their true nature. Remember, AutismSpeaks was a founder and a core member, they're not much different from him.

New commander skills/premium ship guide with my shitty opinions.

Feel free to make changes, just include it in the next OP please.

http://pastebin.com/XGWdGjPc

>>166214191
Ahaha, you sound so jelly anime loser, i bet you got your ass beaten by them.

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>>166214626
but they got their asses beaten by anime losers

>>166214191
>OPG

Literally who's

>>166214697
I bet you have a sub 80% w/r, come and try beating me and my clan mates if you can; except you don't have a chance.

>>166215021
t. Mako

>>166213123
>The US Navy found that it would take about 1000 5" rounds to shoot down a plane using time fused shells. It took around 250 using VT shells. Please note that the 5"/38cal could fire, in good conditions, around 15 rounds/minute. That means, in theory, an Atlanta-class and their 16 guns could fire 250 rounds in just over one minute. It had an effective range of about eight miles in the AA role.
That sounds like a pretty weak statement for AA, so I decided to do the math. So, using these statistics (which, by the way, assumes that all other AA weapons on the Atlanta are nonexistent or worthless) and an 8-mile AA bubble, 3 Atlantas (or 1 Atlanta, a NorCal and a Cleveland) should reliably remove one plane every ~21 seconds. The average torpedo arming distance in real life was 700 yards at most, but since I rounded up to 13 km (it's actually 12.8 km), let's assume that your Hakuryuu's TBs have 12 km to reach these three ships.Given that the approach speed of the C6N1-B is 164 knots, that gives it 142 seconds to reach minimum arming distance, assuming the target is completely broadside and makes zero effort to evade. In order to hit a single torp squadron, you'd have to have lost a minimum of 6.76 TBs, which is surprise, the entire air group. It would take a further 142 seconds to leave this AA bubble, so all in all you would lose 13.52 planes in order to drop your load. The tier-appropriate Shokaku would lose literally the entirety of its 2 torpedo bomber squadrons and more (15 planes) in order to drop at most 4 torpedoes. This is, again, assuming that not a single AA gun on these three ships apart from their DP guns are remotely functional.

Now tell me again, do you really want to run with these statistics when you try to use it to dismiss AA?

>>166215453
meant for >>166211865

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>>166215453
Nice fantasy argument dude, now kill yourself.

>>166215864
If you don't want to be opposed by fantasy arguments, don't post quotes that undermine your own fantasy argument.

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>>166216043
>arguing with lunaticred

stop getting baited by the autismo

Another NA shitter bites the dust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL0zfij2lew

TY based furryfinn for glassing that server cluster. Soon this general shall be ours like /wotg/

Hail Europa!

>Make AA radius larger but weaker, somewhere between half and 2/3 gun range based on national peculiarities )))))))
>give secondaries similar ranges
>give BB better turning radius
>torps can be seen from the same ranges as they do now but you don't get a special warning with beeps unless you have some kind of radar or take the torp detection skill


y/n?

>americants come home from church
>thread immediately goes to shit


hmmm, i wonder what happened here...

>>166216583
>annoying NEET SEApe is up 24/7
>acts like an aspie in Discord and in the gen for a year
>never stops shitposting and falseflagging

hmm, yes...

>>166216583
>Church
This may surprise you, but Christians go to church on Sunday and not Saturday.
Unless you meant Synagogue.

>>166216883
Fuck off, Anusmati is the cancer ruining our thread

>>166217074
Lunatic and Anumati are both autistic shitposters.
But only one of them is constantly shitposting about everyone they possibly can here and in the discord.

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>>166216583
>He doesn't praise the lord

>>166217202
>unironically believing archaic phony theories and worshiping a god delusion

Come on, you can't be serious.

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What am I getting into?

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>torp a chokepoint to hold off 3 BBs in akatsuki
>a myoko decides to yolo in there himself
>"watch out for torps myoko"
>cricketsound.mp3
>eats my torp after getting citadeled and dies
>"AKATSUKI WTF"

I know I'm retarded for torping in the """"""general direction""""""" of my teammates, but how long does the pink name last again?

Played 3 good games after that, still pink.

>>166217765
it tells you in the after battle report

Post Ducks

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>>166217709

>>166216512
>waaah waaah
>EU players are mean to NAutists

propably voted hillary

>>166217765
At least you're not as bad as the chucklefuck shimakaze that torped me earlier today. He torped at me and another BB that were brawling with each other with the excuse of "I thought you'd be dead by the time my torps got there"

>>166218223
doesn't seem like those were the voters that were crying about wanting a safe space from the mean old foreigners

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>>166217520
>He actually lives an empty existence devoid of meaning and purpose under the guidance of The Allmighty Lord.

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>>166217709
Pain, suffering, frustration, hardships and at the end: A Hotel.

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BANZAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>166219005

FOR THE EMPEROR

>>166219005

Funny enough, unless he already used repair party shortly prior, he is still going to survive

>>166219430
the instant after impact he lived with double or triple the health in this picture roughly

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>>166219601

>>166216512
Ironically, he has a lot of good points.

And then drowns them in whining.

>>166219820
>good points

>complains about DDs
>complains about fires (fires is a shit mechanic but he says he hates fires because it gets him killed offten because he's a shitter wasting repair on 1 fire)
>calls the "BB haters" a bunch of tin foil wearers
>is a supertester
>autistic rant about flamu because people in his twitch chat spam "NA LUL"

wow much great points, amaze.

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I leave to go help a deaf one eyed black man get to work and come back to so many (You)s. /wowsg/ calm yourselves, I might get all hot and bothered.

>>166212141
No

>>166212621
>>166213123
>Unless you're deliberately being disingenuous
You caught me. It was a lazy 30 second search with ctrl+c and ctrl+v. The "anon" was being retarded as usual and I really don't have the patience

Its common knowledge that USN AA was superbly effective, but fighters were the meat and potatos of the air war in stopping air attacks. With divebombers being the best weapon system for going above AA arcs which devastated the ships that were hit.

Its one of the reasons why I believe USN should be AA kings in this game and the fact that it isn't true is horrible.

>>166213908
Dive bombers were the most used weapon system of the war in regards to plane bombing on ships. Divebombers devastated an IJN carrier group in a single pass. Its the whole reason why armored flight decks became a thing.

>>166214191
Yeah that about fits the bill. AS became so annoying that even I had to cut ties with him. Couple weeks later he gets perma-banned.

>>166215453
Yeah late war AA was pretty fucking effective, its also why they sent more than 8 planes at once.

>>166216273
Wrong Kagaposter anon

>>166216043
Its terribly easy to bait /wowsg/ anon.

>>166216514
Lets buff plane speed and that could be reasonable. If anything give CVs unlimited planes with progressively longer cooldowns on longer squadrons so CVs can be less careful with losses and AA ships can rack up plane kills for doing their job.

>>166216883
How many mentions was it in that one picture that's posted occasionally?

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>>166220062
dont bully the NAutists!

>>166219820
What did Flamu say to NA players? The only times I heard him talk about them he said that the servers are the same but there are more CVunts on NA.

>>166220229
He said nothing lmao.

People in his chat say "NA LUL" and the NAutist got triggered by it.

>first game in Ducky
>T10 CVs
Remind me why didn't they give her DF?

>>166220348

Because RU DDs require it more )))))

>>166218472
Hillary supporters are all affected by white guilt, so yeah they hate on non-nigger Europe.

Are we ever getting those gold medal crates from Christmas?

>>166220348
Oh and why does a single bastion fort salvo take off half of my health and start 2 fires?

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>>166216512

Did he seriously say that someone who doesn't understand broadsides, citadels and playing an Iowa, means it should get removed from the game? In the start of the video.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, so dumb it down because someone doesn't understand basic physics? That's the whole fucking problem with video games.

If you can't fucking angle you ship by T9, maybe you shoudn't be fucking playing in the first place and just stick to solitaire.

HURR DURR ITS TU HERD SO REMOVE MEKANIK

>>166220510
because you are a camper and need to be more aggressive

t. sub 50% wr shitter

>>166220229
No idea, that part was just whining.

>>166220062
The points he has are about the bow-on gameplay, the lack of CV balancing, the need for the same thing WoT has with the sandbox server.

Ironically, those are points that players on EU (and NA) have been making since alpha.

>>166220130
>Anu is a limp cuckold with white guilt

Not surprising.

>>166220582
I think the idea about citradels was more as something he wanted to try out in a sandbox server, just to see how it would play out.

He's right though, BB attract shitters like no other class.

>>166220130
65 times I think.
I still want to know how much he's been sperging over other anons too.

Holy fuck Buddyony's arcs the're so good I spent 2 games just shooting the front of ships because I couldn't bring myself to belive in them

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>>166220973

Damn 65? That's pretty fucking bad. He probably has a shit ton about other anons or he just shitposts anonymously in the thread. Last I recall it was like 50 or something in the discord.

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>>166220973
>65

>>166220938

I always thought this NAutist thing was a meme, but if he speaks even for a small portion of the player base, then yes, WoWs has a serious problem... for Americans.

I'm a fucking KM baBBy because I love brawling, but I don't lose my shit when getting torped, or having 4 fires because cruisers are firing on me. Of course I'm gonna get rekt, the entire point is to dish out more damage than you receive, and hope you live long enough to repair party it up 5 times, rape some more, win and get that dank ass dreadnought + confederate, maybe kraken achievement.

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Here's how to fix the game, imo

>adjust Citadels - instead of high damage they now cause less damage but impair the ship like that one anon suggested way back

>adjust dispersion - it should be more vertical rather than horizontal, like it was historically, this will also keep bow on from being such a huge advantage

>adjust fires - fires should have a flat damage rate based on the HE shell rather than % based, there would also be a limit to the amount of HP that could be lost to fires

By making it so CAsuals and baBBies can show their sides to bring more guns to bear without being instantly deleted, you encourage players to be more aggressive rather than passive. Nerfing bow on and HE spam also helps.

>>166221792
>no shallows

kys

>>166221792
Okay so one question I have for you is. If only a certain amount of HP can be be lost to HE/fire damage, what does that leave ships that simply cannot penetrate armor with their AP to do?

>>166221792
>nerfing HE spam
kys baBBie

>>166221997

Only to fire damage, HE shells would still do damage. You just couldn't burn a metal ship to death.

>>166216583
It's Saturday you fucking cretin.

>>166221997
That change just makes it so the smaller caliber HE causes less DoT

So HE spamming botes like DDs and a few cruisers lose out but 203mm fires fuck people up

Torp boat or gun boat? I don't want to waste my time going down the inferior line,

>>166221380
Thing is though, despite sometimes not being perfectly balanced, I think the KM BBs are one of the best designed lines in the game as far as getting players to play their role is concerned. They show that players are willing to go up and tank damage and be aggressive and contribute to the team if the ships their sailing are designed around trying to get them to do that. As >>166221792 points out I think an important part of this the general lack of just getting totally deleted out of the game in a single salvo, which should probably be a thing that's extended to other BBs and more importantly to cruisers.
Especially at higher tiers currently, the tendency to get deleted in the blink of an eye is one of the biggest problems because it causes everyone to play more passively, which is why I've always hated the obsession with 'Muh big salvo numbers' that WG and some BB players have, because it just fucks up other aspects of the game, including how BBs are supposed to be balanced around it.

>>166222423
Do both and go American.

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>>166220130

AutismSpeaks got perma'd?!

thats heeeeeeelarious

>>166221914

Shallow water would be amazing, and I'm saying that as a baBBy.

Is Anumati a cute boy?
How tall is he and how much does he weigh?

>>166223258
A burger is about three fiddy.

>>166222854
there were shallows in CBT
baBBys didnt like them and they got removed

>>166223429
Weren't they only in alpha? Or was it just really early CBT?
Because I started in CBT and they were already gone when I started.

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Do the ingame physics influence the amount of citadel shown?

You know, when a running ship turns to his left/right, the weight is on the other side than the one he is showing.

So technically a greater citadel area exposed, right?

inb4 just visual

>>166223939
I think it does.

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>>166224035
>>166223939
So does that mean if I get caught by a ship on my broadsides, I should turn into the other ship to minimize citadel hits?

>>166223939
I think so, that's why you get to citpen Scharnhorsts when they make sudden turns.

>>166224286
Away from it, if you're broadside and you turn into enemy ships, your ship will tilt outward exposing the citpussy.

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I really like this discussion, so I'm going to post the next part.

>Smoke - smoke will work more like it did historically, being used to shelter ships and remove them from danger.

>ships inside smoke still work the same way, but they can no longer 'see' enemy ships spotted for them by allies. They will show up on the map, like in a cyclone, but they will not be able to 'see' them unless they use Hydro, Radar, or a Spotter Plane/Fighter Plane to see through the smoke, at which point they can.

>Also add a ribbon for CAs and DDs that smoke friendly, damaged ships.

>>166224716
>negropara

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>>166222825

Yeah.

>>166223258
No and no. The only thing you can get is erotic fanfiction reading on discord.

>>166224716
That's all completely reasonable.

>>166224873

I don't even know what that image is from desu

>>166224937
I was just asking weigh and heigh to figure out if i could bully you in real life, CVnt.

Yes hello where are the ducks?

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>>166225485
Tier 8, just after the poi.


High maintenance required.

When the Russian line is reworked, do we get to keep the boats we have, or do they get replaced with the one boats in that tier?

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>>166225485
theyre right here you quack

>>166226429
Keep old boats wherever they get moved and replacement boats wherever they were

>>166226429
Assuming it's like every other time they do this, you'll get to keep the botes you have now, as well as getting replacements so that you also have the boat that fills the tech tree. Like with the IJN DDs, if you owned Fubuki, you got her at T6 now, and you got Kagero in the T8 slot as well.

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USS Samuel B. Roberts when?

>>166226715
>DE
>2 127mm guns
not happening

>>166226550
>>166226613
That's pretty cool desu. So if I have the Gnevny, Ognevoi, and Kiev right now, I'll keep them all in their new tiers, and also get a Podvoisky and a Minsk? Do they give us free slots if all our slots currently have ships in them?

>>166180724
So I want to try out this game but I'm not sure how the referral code works. Do I have to create an account with the referral or can I just create one and apply the code after?

>>166227168
Yes, pretty much. So getting Kiev now would be a good idea because you just get a free T9, as well as the new T7.
Also yes, as far as I know they just give you port slots for them if you need them.

>>166227168
You got a slot for each ship that was split when they split the IJN DDs, free slots or not.

>>166227362
Either, so long as you don't play more than a few matches with an account before using the code.
To avoid anything going wrong you're best off either making the account from the referral link or activating it as soon as you make it.

>>166227373
>>166227454
This game is so much better than WoT.

>>166227490
Are the servers like WoT? If so I need one for NA.

>>166227568
And it's still terrible.

I wonder why we can't have nice things for once.

>>166227695

The servers are set up the same way, yes.

>>166227568
For all the mistakes that the dev/WG make I still enjoy this a lot more than I ever did WoT (and I was never even into botes before this), and I do think it's a better game.
Which is why I'd like them to stop doing dumb things, because I'd like to keep enjoying the game.

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How would HMS Vanguard perform against the current Tier VIII Battleship line-up?

Requesting a referral for NA server, please.

>>166231754
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/dgg3171

Here

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>>166231754
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/

>Playing DD
>Help one half of the team on one point
>Other half on team on other side of the map calls for support
>Go to support
>Little while later the half of the team I was first with rages at me for leaving them with no support

>Different game
>Go to cap a point with others that is being contested by another DD to ensure it's capture
>Neptune raging in chat because I'm not supporting his arse that ran into a cap and is now being focussed on
>Blames me alone for the rest of the game for costing the team the match

I like playing DD's but this shit is the reason why I now play for myself and not for the team.

>>166231979
Anumati, never go full retard.

>>166231968
Thanks, Tom!

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>>166232148

S-sorry.

>>166232192
No problem.