/mh16g/ - Marvel Heroes 2016 General

WEW, Flat is best.

WoW: Legion is the superior loot hunt game.

>>166064673
kaz pls

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l6vqPUM_FE

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Apparently the player scaling in CMM is super intense, when there are a lot of players the boss waves have a lot of health but I was able to solo this wave in under a minute

I had to go double check that this was still CMM

>>166065275
How's the XP? Haven't gotten on yet, wondering for Infinity System.

>>166065275
NEW, HARDER COSMIC TRIAL WHEN?!?!?

Muggas know if XP boosts effect infinity orbs?

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Is there any great movement build shit I'm missing? Never played one before

>>166065786
probably

>>166065275
>>166065367
>>166065436
Looks like I may be full of shit and was actually in a lower MM, legitimately the only fucking way you can tell is by mousing over the waypoint and seeing if it says (cosmic)

>>166066847
Does the map name not highlight in yellow anymore? Also, that was always the only way to know? Unless you're actually looking at how much each XP orb gives.

>>166067357
you can select difficulty before entering

>>166067619
I meant determining whether you're in MM or CMM. The waypoint was one of the old ways to know, same with the top-right minimap saying the name in yellow, and I was asking if it does that when you're in CMM or not.

>>166067357
Nope, map name is not yellow

>1st for return of sude W H E N

>>166069096
never ever.

>>166069096
didn't he died?

>>166069096
What are muggas without their super mugga?

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>want to try out Venom
>select talent
>it doesn't work

ONE FUCKING JOB GAZ

>>166070224
not their fault you didn't give feedback about it on the TC

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Update is pretty fun

>>166064437
>>166064437
YES FINALLY A GENERAL I MISSED YOU

>>166073765
Your bike and chain appears to have gone missing, Johnny.

I'm trying my hardest to make a task master build

and all I've got is a stance dancing drop kick build

hello friendos. how will this new update and events fare for a new person?

and what are events usually like? are there event exclusive heroes/loot?

>>166074120
The only thing about this game is be prepared to spend like $10-20 on item storage space, OR throw away a bunch of shit you might want to keep

There's a very small chance you can get 90-95% off the store currency shit as a login reward, which is usually when you buy a $100 pack for $10, but people have gone over a year without seeing that

Events run 24/7 and are generally just like "here's a random permanent xp boost and additional shit drops from certain game modes", every so often they have mega events where they run all the normal events at the same time

It's a pretty great game if you want a diablo that is like an MMO

>>166074764
New update is pretty solid ATM but has obvious tuning issues.

>>166074764
oh. fuck. im a hoarder. so this game has very limited storage space? compared to other mmo/arpg?

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>>166075342
You can more or less have as many of these boxes are you're prepared to pay for. It's comparable to path of exile.

>>166075535
hmmm...that looks very small. ive played poe and it was pretty limited too but you started with 4 and every season was separated into a new pseudo tab.

so in this game you get one box and then ya gotta buy more?

>>166075749
you get 1 + 1 teamup inv(which is close to another stash tab). you can also buy a stash page with the free currency, but only the 1.

>>166075749
Yes, you get one Stash tab separate from your inventory (and Team-Up inventory), and that's it. Very, very rarely do they give you a free Stash tab (usually during the Anniversary event or some other highly specific event), so don't expect to rely on that.

As far as event heroes go, there are none, you can work towards getting all heroes for free or purchase them. There's some exclusivity for event loot, some can be ignored, others cannot because they were previously Best in Slot for certain builds. With the new update, still things needing to be tested and tuned, but I'm sure those exclusive loot items will be valuable. They generally run a rotation of a handful of more common events, a new one every week, and then the occasional bigger event (Lunar New Years, movie launches, Summer or Winter event, Anniversary, etc.).

>>166075749
I don't remember how many you start with but I think it must have been at least 2

Also in this game you have no real reason to keep most of the gear that drops, you either equip it or vendor it

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>Get mildly excited seeing the new stuff presented
>Remember its still Gaz
>The same people that overprice their shit horribly
>The same people that prioritize their schedule over content that gives seizures
>The same people who can't code to save their lives
>Remember the game takes up 3x as much memory and resources than it says it does in spec requirements

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CHRIS ANGEL.

It's been so long mhg

>>166077169
>shit version of the good moon knight costume

>>166078346
never go full jelly

>>166078346
come on now, sleeves up is top tier.

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How did the update treat your favorite charaters? Do they play better? Are they fun?

>>166080180
>mh2016
>fun

pick one

muggas ww@

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anyone tuning into this weeks podcast?

yall muggafuckers excited for nintendo switch?

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>>166081425
Probably. There's supposed to be some code giveaways, but I heard it's rumored they'll be one-time use and not for everyone, so that's a bummer.

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The night's watch will keep this thread alive

>>166084212
best

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PSA: don't reroll pet affixes, Gaz bonked the system

>>166088686
details?

>>166088732

Apparently you keep rolling the same +attribute over and over if you reroll for the same pet

>>166089154
kek, so uniques are all but useless now.

n i c e

>getting excited over a sub 1M but on a non-sig

gotta get use to this

>>166065275
share your ghost rider build?

So is this update good?

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RIP SERVERS

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>servers down
>forums down

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

fucking come on gaz

COME ON

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>Gaz makes game fun again
>lol let's kill momentum by pulling the plug

gg

You know, this update is really bad.

RIP Doomsaw and Brevik

>>166092880
Also, enjoy your lame and boring Omega items.

Amthua

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They have to be kidding right?

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>30 minutes ago

>>166092880

Gotta be straight, I am not missing the chapter mission bullshit. Fighting over timed spawns and target mobs with shitters 40-50 levels over me was retarded as fuck.

Seems almost too follow-the-ball now though. I guess they're figuring the PS4 players will find it too hard a game otherwise.

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Nice TTK, faggot.

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>>166094076
>poetry

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lmao good times

>>166094449
>and then Bendis revived him, did nothing with it, and then killed him off again in an Incursion

I like the update but I just have no idea what to do for any of the few characters I have at 60. I'm kinda new and not sure what is shit and what isn't.

Infinity system would be nicer if you could put points in anything though. Having every player suddenly get 1 of each main stat between infinity level 146 and 150 is weird. Even weirder is making every character spec into all 6 stones. Characters specced into just 1-3 of them would be far cooler.

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>>166094669
Try prestieging and leveling the characters you're interested in

>>166094669

Eh stuff's been streamlined a lot with the new update so it's even easier to figure out things now

I'd explain but it's 3AM so I'll try to just cover the basics

You want to get stuff that gives points to your hero's main attributes. You can see what the attributes of your hero are by going to powers and looking at the first trait on them. It should say something like Archetype: X and then (gains 4% per point in Y and Z).

You also will want critical hit rating and critical damage rating along with damage rating of the type of damage your hero does.

>>166094669
Yeah, you kind of have to relearn your character from the ground up and figure out what works and what doesn't. Prestiging like >>166094760 said could help rather than trying to figure out what to do with ~20 powers and all the various Talents.

As far as the Infinity system goes, yeah, it's shit. It's exponentially weaker than the Omega system, has a lot less use, and the division of your points means it takes nearly 3m XP to get two points in the same Infinity stone.

Heard that the guy that runs MH.info was quiting and wouldn't update the site but looks like he changed his mind.

>>166094851
he made a post saying it'll tae a while but he's busy updating everything for the new patch (talent calc, etc)

>>166094760
>prestiging

they took away the costume reward right?

what is the point?

>>166094669

This is true. I expect the point division to be loosened up some time down the line, or options expanded. At least I would from a sane dev team. Remains to be seen with gaz.

There's no catagory that's completely 100% useless, but a lot of the options are depressingly low priority, especially now that stat bonuses are so limited. On the movement one, I just dumped points whereever on several characters, because the only one useful to me in most cases was attack speed, and sometimes I just literally did not give a shit where they went.

i came back to an old account. lv60 psylocke has like over 6k damage on the character sheet but can't do the cosmic trial due to dying and not being able to output that damage through any good abilities. on the other hand lv60 scarlet witch only has like 2k damage listed, but she's practically immortal, can't die to the trial, but she can't do enough damage in time either. i guess i just need to actually level these fresh legendaries and grind omega?

-- aaand now i browse this thread and realize all this might be irrelevant now anyway. guess i'll have to go see the new update myself when i get the chance.

>>166095247
how are you dying during cosmic trial? They tuned down the damage from the mobs in there like a fuckton

>>166095141
It's also frustrating because each hero has a different archetype from the various combinations, so it screws the heroes who gain a benefit from the attribute as well as another node in a given Infinity Stone. Rather than have all the points they actually have, they have a fraction of that, and they almost certainly have a fraction of their points in an Infinity Stone that offers little to nothing.

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So what hero has been the biggest surprise for you guys for the few hours we could play today?

Which heroes came away with the best buffs?

Are there any european muggas? I'd like to join the group if possible

>>166095129
I don't think they did

>>166095380

i couldn't beat the timer playing conservatively so i had to just try face-rolling my rotation and died real easy, and still wasn't doing enough damage regardless. anyway yeah this was mh2016. if i still get problems in mh2017 (is it mh2017 now with this patch?) i'll be able to come back and see if i can get some advice with some more specific info.

>servers still down

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>166095563
Rogue is amazing, I just wish she wasn't the worst marvel character with the worst voice acting in the game

Up.

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Servers back

>Steam fucks up my install of the big update twice last night.


>Decide to have it d/l while sleeping and wake up early before work

>Servers down and computer crashed in the middle of the night

I finally finished downloading least I get 45 min before work.

Anyone figure out the best exp farm right now?

>>166098453
>we're back to the days where XP farming for (nu)Omegas is the main grind
Fuck.

>servers back
>laggier than a br on mcdonalds wifi

for fuck sake gaz

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>>166099057
and the ride never ends!

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holy shit movement heroes got fucked sideways

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>tfw Rocket Raccoon got gutted even further
Why doesn't my med kits regen my ammo?
Why can't I weave?
Why can't I lay out Groot and spam his slam?

>>166099864

Can't speak for the rest of it, but I re-kitted my rocket earlier(without playing him), and the 25% health/100 spirit/ammo is still on the core/catalysts that had them originally.

If it doesn't actually regen ammo when you've got one slotted with that though, obviously not WAI and a bug. Dummycheck: make sure you reequipped it.

>>166099864
does your core thing still have spirit regen?

all summoners got kind of fucked too, probably moreso than movement heroes

bampu

>>166094669
So is spirit stacking on Juggs still a thing or?...

Make muggas great again!

Is shit unplayably laggy for anyone else?

>>166099864
actually I tried him earlier and the damage really isn't that bad

I can see scaling issues coming into play later though

>>166104867
yea pretty laggy senpai

>>166104867
yeah I'm just testing builds in the training room, gonna actually play later when they fix this garbage

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It's amazing that anyone with a brain would try to bring this general back.
The threads died for a reason. The game is unsalvageable.
Dumbzillion just refuses to admit the game is dead and is making a useless desperate ploy to get new players by making it compatible with the upcoming PS4 version. Which will fail miserably.

ded game
ded thread
ded game
ded thread

>>166106227
I like the game it is fun and muggas is the best 4chan based community ever

So, they released the mega update yet? i was waiting this to play again

>>166108952
most of it

cosmic items are coming in like a month or whatever, maybe longer

>no omega system balancing
>switches to d3 paragon

gazillion not even once

>>166108996
What we have now genuinely has more depth then "get +10 fighting, boss damage, and then either str int or eng on literally every hero" previously

>>166109662
it's weird how divided people are on opinions regarding this

to me it feels a little more diverse. Like you said, before fighting was basically king, unless you were a summoner

obviously omega choices are more or less a no brainer for most people, definitely moreso the more points you have

as far as specific heroes, a lot is unbalanced but I think there is a great lot of room for potential than what we had before

Holy shit Captain Marvel still hits like a truck. Anyone else try her? She feels a lot more fluid.

Hey all - just letting you know of the following Primary Attributes that will be changing immediately in the first update patch.

We wanted to get these in in earlier TC builds, but the timing was such that it was safer to wait until the first patch. Please keep these in mind when starting to reallocate your gear choices.

The following heroes Offensive Traits will been changed to what is listed below:

Black Panther - Fighting / Intelligence

Cable - Fighting / Energy

Jean Grey - Energy / Intelligence

Juggernaut - Durability / Strength

Kitty - Fighting / Intelligence

Psylocke - Fighting / Intelligence

Rocket - Fighting / Energy

She-Hulk - Durability / Strength

Squirrel Girl - Fighting / Speed

War Machine - Durability / Strength

Winter Soldier - Strength / Fighting

>>166111734
best shieldfu

short hair was better though

servers shit the bed again?

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>>166112234
For "again" to qualify they would need to have been functional at one point

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>make comment two hours ago
>only 12 new comments since

And people still doubt that Marvel Zeroes is dead.
Muggas confirmed for - oh wait muggas are dead as well.
Just let this laughable general die.

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>felt silly keeping almost every Book of Demonicus during Strange event
>now it's BIS on half the roster

feels good

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>>166112460
>he thinks it can be stopped

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>>166112720
>he thinks the game will survive after 99.999999999999999999999% of players have left in a week or two

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>Gaz fixes all the problems with gear being trivial because everyone used the same items and there was no viability in anything else
>Gaz fixes all the content being snore inducing because you could play the game blindfolded and still be basically invincible
>Gaz fixes you needing more than one neuron to build your heroes along with being penalized for choosing one skill over another one
>Gaz fixes attributes being all over the place (mostly)
>Gaz fixes cores being tied to costumes
>Gaz fixes a ton of heroes being bland and unplayable
>Gaz fixes most people only playing teleporters because of "muh traveling speed"
>Yet shitters still whine the game is too hard, that they're dying too fast, that they can't understand the new system and that it's "not muh marvel heroes"

Can't just seem to win with these fuckheads. They approve of the bad decisions Gaz takes and dickride them for every retarded thing they do, yet the one time they actually do something right everyone is up in arms about it. This is just like back when the CMM gate was introduced

>>166114595
nah man clicking your skills 20 times a piece while respeccing was totally deeper

Where can i buy medkits?

>>166117301
medkits are gone dude

>>166118043
wuut, and how the fuck im going to heal my ass?

>>166119359
just use the same medkit button

only difference between now and then is that you don't have to actually carry medkits now

also all cosmic costume cores give you a 50% HP shield on medkit use

>>166119359
Medkits are a separate "power" now. Basically you now have infinite medkits.

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real muggas never die

>>166119464
>>166119542
ty muggas

>>166120792
this thread is about to die tho

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>check /vg/ for shits and giggles
>there's a MH page
>muggas still talking shit on gaz

Mah niggas! What's the fuck is up?

>>166123943

>what's

typo. no bully pls

>>166123943
everything is fucked and shit is retarded

>>166124979

>everything is fucked
>shit is retarded

Gaz doing what gaz does best. How are you though? Health good? How's the kids?

>>166098453
Cosmic Terms were 10 million each, LQs gave me 20+ million each and CDR was 30+ million each. Haven't tried out patrols yet.

>sude will soon get deported

i need a tasky build

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wew muggas

>We Diablo 3 now

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>try x-23
>had no problems in cosmic MM
>now get shredded in a second

rip in peace

>>166131345
They worked on her in TC but she's still absolute shit. She needs a complete overhaul tbqh.

Lets get this shit started

>internal metrics

So what's a good overtuned character to play right now? My main is unplayable due to bugs and wrong stat itemization.

I'm pretty upset that the Iron Legion Armor Sheath is ass now

a level 50 artifact is way better

>bis movement item doesn't apply to best movement hero.

wtf gaz

>>166139519
Movement builds in general got fucked because a lot of the movements required the use of their dash, which is now on charges. RIP

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>>166140172
>mfw i mained jugg

>build before uses 8 slots
>build now uses 10 slots because of talent buffs
ayy lmao

>>166136080
>hey we made too many good artifacts
>let's shit on them all now years later and not shortly after it was released :^)

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>we're still the fastest ARPG out there
It's funny because that's simply not true at all. Mobility wise? By default? Sure MH is faster, but if you get gear in Diablo 3/PoE you can easily run faster through maps.

God forbid if you want to clear anything in MH while attempting to go fast, because it's the worst.

games dead

>>166143048

the patch is downloading at 300kbps, its definitely the slowest.

Dink inc

>>166147586
Reminder that she leaked information about the PS4 intent by referencing the processing power needed to render out Beast's hair on the PS4 engine and every post mentioning directly got edited or deleted.

>>166140368
juggs is still great.

Stream is going on at twitch tv/marvelheroes. Lord and the art team is on, so make sure to talk shit about Dink.

If they nerfed boss hp by 25% and boss damage by 25% I'd have no problem waiting for the rest of the patch, but jesus these chuckle fucks literally didn't play their game for 7 months.

>>166135673
Rogue is infallible and fun to collect powers

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Losing Brevik killed this game.

Enjoy Diablo 3 marvel edition.

>>166152813
Friend and I were talking about how there are no gender bender skins for her.

He asked me why I play her. He only plays guys, I don't care as long as they are fun.

>>166153986
he sounds gay desu

>>166153949
Its not even on D3's level, at least you can kill things in D3. Hope everyone on the dev team gets fired after the console release, they are beyond talentless retards.

>>166151418
and yet, there are players who defend them

>>166153986
Yeah I would love for rogue to be a different character entirely, she's such a retarded cunt, but the power steal gameplay is too good.

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>mfw crashing everytime upon entering MGH Factory
>mfw damage pre and post patch
>mfw amount of experience to get 1 point in 1 gem

>>166154289
THIS
B
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"if ccr" is word filtered

what the fuck gaz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RjlMu3PkyI&feature=youtu.be

>>166095789
There might be, but we have NEETs anyways so you can just join and leave if there aren't any muggas on during your hours. Just post your ign

>>166099864
Check if your medkit cores are in that purple mail thing

>>166161624
I wonder why this is censored. Is it maybe an abbreviation no one knows of?

>>166110517

Jean grey is one of my favorites but i checked her out first, so by the time I realized it used this system I'd moved on. I just automatically assumed she was energy/intelligence

also i went from not being able to get past madame hydra pre-patch to beating cosmic trial today with no buffs etc and wasting my ultimate on MH thinking she was the final boss.

>>166113164

You really think the update is that bad?

Whens muggaraids?

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>>166110517
Squirrel girl with the new bow of einherjar? and all the +int summon gear is fucking brutal. I posted on the forums but I pray they don't change her to fucking SPEED of all things.

>>166166792
No, it's some anti-mugga shitposter

So realistically, how many new players would a console version bring in?

>>166166792
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/226320/discussions/0/143387886729251741/
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/226320/discussions/0/143387886728155337/
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/226320/discussions/0/143387886729154302/
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/226320/discussions/0/143388132200462352/
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/226320/discussions/0/143387886727704388/
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/226320/discussions/0/143387886729413931/

"WiltedCarrot was RIGHT" t-shirts when?

>>166167023
How do console players manage inventory? it sounds like a nightmare.

>>166167023
a handful of whales in the long run and even fewer casuals. i hope there is gold in them thar hills for gaz's sake since they're committed now.

>>166167159

There's no free camera control, so I imagine the right analog could serve for cursor control. The d-pad will probably be used for medkit/teamup/ultimate/something instead of navigation.

Sounds awkward, but then, I find FPS aiming on console to be awkward as fuck too. Maybe it's something you just get used to.

>>166167023
>>166167159

You just move cursor instead of character when a menu is open. You can play the game with controller right now, plug and play. I do it so I can play while standing up, there's that whole "sitting is the new smoking" thing which is legit, spending as much time as possible standing up significantly improves your health and fitness

>>166167121

>they changed something
>THEY CHANGED SOMETHING
>im officially uninstalling
>im not doing as much damage

I mean, teleporters moving rapidly across zones, and moreso for players who modify ingame zoom and/or have an ultrawidescreen was cool, but it's in the same way coptering was cool in warframe. It's not bad, and made farming really quick with some fans who love to go fast but then the cost-free teleport characters started popping up and

The omega system isn't bad, but it became excessive. INF points having equal distribution is lame, but I don't mind the system itself, not sure why they scaled down points/cost.

It sucks that gear people farmed isn't as good, but I thought it was kind of what everyone expected.

>>166153949
Hahahaha, it's a wannabe Diablo 3 but they've failed at everything else what made Diablo 3 successful.. well after the blunder.

It's like they saw way too many numbers declining that they decided to release it before it was actually done, but it doesn't matter. The clowns have ADHD when it comes to development and I'm surprised they stuck with this for the past few months.

>>166165134
>fccr
>fucker
It's a really shitty filter.

>>166167023
Probably a good bit.

oh good this updated hey look I get disconnected 100% of the time when i try to enter a story mission

>>166166792
Not him, but yes I actually do think it's bad. Not that the idea of revamping the game is bad, no. The game needed it considering what they said is actually true of "teleports is cancer." It's just everything they replaced it with feels awful, lazy, and badly thought out.

>Talents
I get that it's "we're taking some stuff out of skills and putting them in talents with extra!" The major problem with a handful of heroes. They did nothing to make an alternative to a hero's rotation and instead they're trying to force a skill into it causing a slot problem or you waste a talent choice.

A lot of talents are uninteresting and don't have a real choice. As I said before they took somethings out to put into a talent, but the other choices is just garbage. Why?

>Movement
This is actually hilarious, because you can easily reach the movement cap now than before. Makes the entire "everyone moves way too fast!" kinda moot if we ignore dashing/teleporting. One of the problems with changing dash/teleport would be the mob packs. They're all over the place and their scaling for each difficulty is dumb as fuck. You either oneshot everything or die very quickly from trash. But let's ignore that absurd scaling. You have 30 mobs in a single area at one point then at another you have 5. Why? Most of them are ranged as well which causes the instant death that people are saying.

The game doesn't feel great. Everything seems off. But hey, I'm only a shitposter :^). I can keep going on if you want me to.

Where did the console rumor come from?

>>166172312
The gameplay changes they made + filenames found in updates.

>>166172312
plus Dink directly mentioned working on PS4 for some Beast stuff

>>166171629

I don't mind the traits and talents completely. For nearly(if not all) characters, they had passive/toggle powers that were like the old fitness pool back in city of heroes - technically optional, realistically mandatory. Putting them there, and giving some options about what you actually want like how Iron Man was supposed to always work, isn't half-bad.

You can tell the devs got really fucking lazy at some points though, because instead of "what you prefer", the choices for some rows become "what you want this one single power, that you might not even give a single fuck about, to do. They just flat stopped even thinking about it.

>Michael Mayhem streaming

>>166175634
It's a good concept, playing it on a F2P account that's completely fresh. I wonder if he'll realize how crazy the damage is on bosses.

I think it was a mistake for them to drop this patch and not have a mega event going on at the same time.

>>166176585

When stability is a problem, a mega-event turns pretty quickly into a mega failure.

And so far, with the auth server issues, and the server center itself completely shitting its pants yesterday, it's been a problem.

>>166177843
Always trust in Old Lace.

>>166177843
Any guesses on what the new chars should be?

Beast - STRENGTH/INT
Fury - FIGHTING/INT
Black Bolt - ENERGY/FIGHTING

maybe

>>166179119

Sounds about right. I can't picture beast as anything but str/int.

>>166179119
does this even matter much at the end of the day though?

>>166180097
not right now but maybe moreso with the omega item update?

>>166173310
It's funny that you mention
>"what you want this one single power
I don't care what people say that "Cap is solid!" when the talent is literally the old build, it's silly. They put zero effort in a hero like Cap. Zero. But it's okay! They made one change on bash instead of an arc, it's now a circle. Wow! Oh what's that you want to use two talent rows that are buffs? Sorry! Not enough slots! Just ignore taunt or invul. "You don't need both!" - General. It's shit like that makes me so fucking angry.

>>166176585
I think the state of the update is a mistake. Heroes still need their talents to be reworked, mobs need to be redone to work with the current mobility, omega requirements is absolutely insane now even if it's a neverending system. Everything seems incomplete and if this their grand idea to get old players to come back, well it's not. It's feels fucking awful.

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Don't forget to leave your review on steam.

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>>166182259

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Steam is a wonderful place

>>166183547
When you're cherry picking, definitely it's always hilarious to read reviews shortly after a change.

So is melee just dead? Also how does one know what main stat to stack on which hero?

>>166186554
See >>166177843
Not even that many posts above yours, anon.

>>166186704
My bad, thanks anon

>>166186554
you can just look at the character details in your power panel

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>general is back
I missed you guys, time to start playing again.

>>166189008
server's going down

>>166189151
In 30 minutes yes, let's see if I can sort my inventory before that.

Anyone play hawkeye figured out a good build for him?

Overall pretty neat changes but there is stil very little to do.

>>166190167
They really need to fix the Danger room. They talked about how revolutionary it was going to be and the basis for the future of the game.

Then like everyone else they dropped it a month after launch.

I haven't played in a year. Looks like they're making the game more streamlined and boring

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How is this shit stain of a general not dead yet?

>>166195179
ah man what a classic shitpost

>>166193694
It only looks like that if you have no real understand of the game

Previously each character had only one best build. There are now a bunch of totally viable different ways to build most characters.

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>>166195413
I got more if you want 'em.
For nostalgia's sake, that is.

>>166195574
Not that anon, but I think it's the opposite. When a patch hits and people have no idea what to build, a lot of things seem viable and useful. But once people have a real understanding of the game/talents/skills post-update, meta builds will emerge. Even now, checking people's comments on character forums, builds don't vary that greatly from one another.

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shit page10

>ded

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are servers up ?

>>166200335
https://marvelheroes.com/status

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I wish these fucking nerds would make up their fucking mind mind about fucking attributes so I can fucking gear.

>>166198468
wtf

>>166200887
I am not even going to bother regearing until omega items are out.

SERVERS ARE UP LIKE OVER AN HOUR AGO NO ONE MENTIONED IT APPARENTLY

>>166200476 THIS SHIT IS ALSO INCORRECT

>>166195574

>retarded
>nu

Pick one?

trash update to a dead fucking game. slow it to a crawl for console faggots

RIP

content when?

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So I used to have some costumes with no cores but they had visuals, now those visuals are part of one of those new "cores" but they have no affixes, did I lost the visuals?

>>166209807
Check crafter recipes for swaps

>>166206030
They made the game less autistic.

Spamming the token movement ability was annoying and stupid.

Basically, they removed the shitty sprint button and you guys are complaining about it.

Simplifying the omega system is going to kill any bit of originality that builds had,

Bucky got fucking gutted. RIP

Holy shit, it's been 2 days and this is still alive.

gj muggas, Knew you had it in you.

:)

>>166193361
There's a lot of reasons why DR sucks. It basically has to do with how incomplete the entire thing feels.

>variety
Doesn't really exist. They have a bunch of tilesets, but they don't use them all. And good luck if they made any new one. The mods on it are almost always unimpactful. Scaling was always absurd just for the sake of difficulty teleporting into trash would one shot you. Bosses in MH suck and there wasn't any exclusive boss. Overall variety sucks.

>teamplay
They killed this practically instantly, because people were going through them way too fast. I think changed their mind on this, but I'm not sure.

>Clearing for orbs
Doing this in MH is god awful. Almost everyone you talk to will agree that clearing DR is terrible and it mostly has to do with how the mob packs are done in MH. It's basically random and so you're running around looking for a single mob. And again back to variety, this is all you do. It's not fun and why do things respawn?

>Rewards
It sucks. Plain and simple. Maybe when they introduce the omega items then it won't, but for now it just sucks. The idea of grinding for medals for a specific item is neat, but in the long run that randomness that everyone hates? Yeah, everyone loves it at the same time. If something is too easy, people stop. If it's too hard nobody tries. If it's just right in the middle with luck then people are willing to grind the shit out of it, but this doesn't work if the mode itself sucks.

Overall the idea that the one Gaz employee was working on was probably drastically different what was happening. I'm sure he was after the idea of PoE maps, but didn't have full dev support. They went a quarter the way and called it a day. They won't touch it now, because it's a dead game mode. Why bother doing anything to a dead game mode, right? Gaz likes to ignore why things are dead in the first place.

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>you need a catalyst with a visual to "transfer" visuals
WHAT THE FUCK

>>166215867
damn nigga, You don't much DR do you? They patched orbs about a month ago.

When you clear objectives (what your supposed to do) orbs then get a bonus 20% to fill the bar (which means like 5-10 orbs need to be picked up depending on progress). It makes clearing DR faster.

As for the rewards i find them solid given the rest of the game, Purple insignias and cores and with a couple uniques and merit points.

Once you realize that you should be playing the hardest DR modes you can actually have fun and grind merits simply.

I've grinded roughly 30k merits in the last few months and can say that cosmic DR isn't worth the effort for merits alone, Cosmic DR does give more uniques/purple insignias/cores but the clear speed/dying is awful.

Purple DR is the best for merits(which is what you really want in the end).

>>166219637
Aw hell

>Shouldn't be playing hardest DR modes(not should fml)

Don't play cosmic DR for merits, Play purple DR for merits.

I know this is a video about PoE but in the first 2 minutes they talk about the current clear speed meta breaking the game (and endgame) and how the devs are addressing it.

This is almost like a mirror situation going on at Gaz and i think those first 2 minutes really sum up whats going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqRMDz2WRA

It's crazy knowing that PoE and MH were going through the exact same problems at the same time until gaz took a step.

Gaz taking that first step actually mimics how PoE dealt with an issue that everybody loved and the devs nerfed it causing most the community to be upset and the dev mentions how it tooks months to recover.

it's a crazy parallel.

>>166220017

The thing about this though is that there is that of course 90% of the playbase will cry when their easy mode is nerfed with no alternatives.

Casuals, even hardcore players complain when the easy route is taken and things are harder.

If they want the game to slowdown, then they should also increase rewards rarity. Part of the reason why people "need" speed clearing is because of how bad the rng and loot is and xp gain.

When you half the clear speed, you half the rewards. If it took 5-10 min to kill a cosmic boss now but you get 5-10 min worth of rewards it would be fine.

The easiest method of mak ing things challenging but worth it is the rewards for time spent being spent.

Idc that I can't just roll around the map in 10 seconds if I'm gettign rewarded fighting my way through.

>>166221456
Agreed but gaz hasn't tuned the game yet for difficulty/reward.

They just dropped the patch to get massive feedback on these things.

we've yet to see if reward will make up for the 'slowing down'.

It's alot of work for gaz ATM and will ofcourse take some time (with some hopeful feedback from the devs).

>>166221456
that's their own fault for taking like a month off, then coming back trying to release the biggest update ever or whatever with minimum testing.

Leaving the game in a stale or broken state to get feedback they rarely fully listen too is not going to help keep the pop up.

if they want people to play, listen to the players feedback, don't throw big updates that shit the games meta into broken shit.

>>166219637
Sorry, I haven't played the game in months. I just don't find DR fun at all. It doesn't give me the same feeling as I get from PoE maps and that mostly is due to the mods that you get from maps in comparison to DR. It's a halfassed system that is nothing more than a tedious repetitive grind rather than something I'd enjoy doing, but hey that's just my opinion.. and many others.

http://marvelheroes.info/build/1/
Applaud that crazy Russian, muggas.

>>166221704
This game is an endless chain of potential and and an endless waiting game for certain features that should make the game >fun. It's been years of "the game should be >fun again once they do this or that"

>>166223831
Now just need to wait for Based Bing to show us how to build him.

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>>166224547

>>166213191
How so? He seems the same with the ranged spec.

>>166161624
Gaz doesn't like Credence Clearwater Revival?

>>166224547
Bing is taking a step back from the game because one of his parents is dying, said in one of his last videos

>>166224547
>listening to bing

LULSDUFO*SJFOIHJ$NFIO#@NFCIOMNO KEK

>>166224080
Exactly. It's wishful thinking that "we haven't seen how they will TRULY balance it, they are just testing it right guys"

When it's been that way for 3 years. They test things on live. And push things that are against feedback.

>>166220017
My biggest complaint with the entire thing is that they did nothing to change the game around movement. Everything is still the same and the gameplay is clearly designed for constantly dashing and teleporting. It's a lot to ask for, but they could easily solve the trash mob killing people if it wasn't filled with a bunch of elite/rare ranged mobs that all instantly shoot you the moment you jumped in view and if they were packed together rather than all spread out. Everything else? Well.. that's asking for a complete redesign. Without ever addressing this, the game feels awful to play, in my opinion.

>>166225592
Step up and replace bing, mugger. It's up to you now

>>166225812
b-but my video quality is shit and I don't know how to give them text

>>166226551
>implying we care about quality when we've been following Bing's guides
You dont need to give them text. Muggas can't read anyways

>no new Advance Pack announced

Game is ded. Won't make it past 2017.

>>166228448
That license renewal is pretty soon.

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>all these BR captchas
I miss uncle sude

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You guys blended all your original costumes right?

No point in holding on to them

>>166229712
Is this true? Why are they still in the game?

>>166230359
Dunno but I wouldn't be surprised if they fixed this later. It's basically just free costumes for everyone at this point.

>I believe so, yes. And yes, I know this means people might blend all their defaults. Which, if that's your bag, so be it

>Yes, I believe that by owning a hero, the default costume will automatically unlocked.

Since you default to your original costume when your hero is costume-less, no point in holding on to them.

>>166231059
meant to link

https://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/comment/3999167/#Comment_3999167

>>166228448
AP3 still has three heroes to release. Don't expect an AP4 yet.

>>166231401
How many heroes were in ap3? They actually didnt finish em in a year lul

>>166232996
I think 8, but they didn't finish because they decided to go forward with this "Biggest Update Ever" midway through the year and process, so they didn't want to factor in the point system and previous mechanics. That's why after Angela the last three were delayed for after the update, which they said will lead to Beast, Black Bolt, and Fury being released much quicker and more closely.

Be honest boys,

Green Goblin or Ultron?

>>166234243
ultron

this game is complete trash after the update.
They removed the customization of having more than 2+6 max buttons, the omega trees and ruined the movement system.

Without those 3 at the pre-nerf levels, marvel heroes is just a much worse path of exiles with jokingly bad bosses, jokingly easy meaningless content that drops nothing exciting and with the joke talent tree that's not even a shadow of the PoE tree of hundreds of nodes. The gearing and spells are also boring as fuck with no support gem combos or anything, the patch left the game entirely cookie cutter and improved nothing.

After a month or two, it will be down to 800 players once the new-factor wears off and the people who came back to such a shit game just to see if it was fixed find out it's worse than it was last year.

>>166234243
Who cares game is dead

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>>166235798

http://store.steampowered.com/app/226320/

Recent reviews have already reached "Mostly Negative"

"WiltedCarrot Was Right" t-shirts when?

>>166236643
It's probably why we are still MH 2016. Saving the 2017 to reset reviews again.

>>166235798
but taking away all of those things means it will be much easier to create NEW CONTENT!

>>166238086
none of those are related to CONTENT, which this game will never ever have.

>>166236462

this review sums up just how retarded and hypocritical the community has become.

>OMEGA IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN INFINITY LOOK AT ALL THESE CHOICES

>if you don't take INT over the other options your dumb.

oh, lots of diversity i see. Probably a player who chose cookie cutter omega builds.

I swear our playerbase has got to be the dumbest out of all the ARPG out there.

>>166236643
>month later, Mostly Negative reviews, newness gone, 500 total players, firing their one person actually working on raid content, scam people for a year to buy costumes right before the game closes and they announce they're working on a league of legends clone like HiRez
I can see it now.
Don't spend a cent on marvel heroes.

>>166239130
being so retarded you think there was 1 stat in omega system when going 10F would only take a fraction of the points and left many thousands of others to customize into many other choices.

But no, you're a 50 IQ potato fucktard so please tell us how you somehow could only dump 10,000 omega points into one slot that costs 2-3k and the other 7k weren't going into extra customizations.

You have literally demonstrated marvel fanboys are the most retarded gamers alive.

>>166235798
the problem with that they clearly explained.

While hardcore players may feel rewarded for doing similar damage but using two hot bars full of different abilities, it was hard to balance around for the other 90% of players who felt it was tedious to do just for equal or less damage.

Also, with the powerpoint system, many abilities weren't even strong enough to put more than 8 on your bar anyway. You maxed out 8 skills, some passives and that was it.

If they allowed the limit to be increased, and with how every ability being available, it would incentivise using every buff ability possible and only the most hardcore players and classes would benefit.

>>166239876
b-b-but muh strawman

>>166239130
Omega was like 95% trash gimmick passives. People don't realize this. They feel like "wow so many, muh choices".

The benefit of omega was that it seemed to actually be worth the points compared to how few points we did get in return for the infinity system.

This guy must of never played an arpg or rpg or mmo because everytime there is a big update/expansion, gear becomes useless.

kek they also though skill trees were hard?

max passives, max a spam ability, max a utility ability, max survivability ability, max a dot layer, and gg, you have 90% of all builds.

Without omega points, how do I get radar on all my heroes now, without sacrificing an artifact slot?

>>166239876
But was it actually choices? You take the 10 omega nodes relevant to your attribute/damagetype and be done with it.

The rest were trash tier.

For summoners, it was the same pet damage nodes you take. same crit nodes. same int nodes. over and over. Nothing else compared.

The only thing making omega better right now than infinity is that there isn't nearly enough benefit pure investment or enough points to make it impactful as omega. Which feels lame.

but that is a numbers thing, not a system thing.

>>166240983
b..but my radar!

Well, time for me to uninstall.

>>166239876
you're acting like 95% of the roster didn't take the same omega choices

>>166240983
The only times I ever saw people really change the way they specced Omegas was for the pre-nerf Axis Sentinels fight and for DR tourneys and maybe some CDR for weaker heroes.
Other than that it really was cookie cutter and math people like Ranf figured out the best benefit per Omega spent.
The same is going to happen with Infinity. People will figure out for each hero which nodes they should put their points in. The Infinity system just makes it much more new player and casual friendly.

>>166240983
Pretty much this. There weren't actual choices. You just went for your attribute nodes then whatever was mathemetically best for dps.

>>166230359
>>166229712
What happens if you prestigge now? Do you still get costumes?

>build center on mh.info is starting to go up
>most viewed Iron Man build recommending Kevlar Helmet

5 builds in and people are already fucking up, jesus

>>166242996
for now, but it's going away

>Q: Are we going to increase rewards in Cosmic Difficulty?

>A: The answer is yes, but not in this next patch.

>We know many players are looking forward to Omega Items, which are not coming in the near term.

DED GAME

>>166243480
fuckin RIP

R
I
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>>166243363
SHOW YOUR MATH

>Cosmic is intended to be near the top of difficulty curve and somewhere between the old Epic and Cosmic Danger Room scenarios. The majority of heroes should not be able to complete this difficulty efficiently, otherwise it would not live up to its name as our hardest current difficulty.

They better do some serious difficulty arranging and adjusting. If Omega difficulty is going to be tougher than current Cosmic then a huge portion of their player base which is casual af won't be getting that Omega gear and may end up quitting because of it. This is going to be interesting.

>>166244361
That's what BIF is for :^)

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>>166244441
>had a 90% coupon during the last sale
>could've got 28k G's for $20
>wasn't really feeling the game so didn't bother
>liking it now

Not wasting the opportunity next time.

So is the update as awful as everyone says it is? Is it worth jumping back in or not?

>>166245956
jump in and try it yourself, you can only waste time

i personally am enjoying the new leveling system

>>166246634
new leveling system?

>Understandably, doing this at the same time as you need to regear many of your heroes due to the attribute changes is not the best plan, but I want to get started on rebalancing the credit economy sooner rather than later so we can start looking into things like increasing the level cap of crafters and adding new recipes with it. Its why we gave you a few boxes of crafting materials to help ease the transition a bit.

>increasing the level cap of crafters

>>166247326
Leveling vendors was not fun. Please stop this madness, Gazman

>>166247326
>having levels on vendors to begin with
Why make it even worse, you shit-tier developers?

>>166064437
Also, big important update that went without notice. No more free unlocking of a hero at the start of the game, they give you 400 ES for completing one of the first missions and then 200 ES at Day 7 Login. Previously it was any hero unlock for free plus 400 ES at your Day 7 login.

>>166247326
this fucking dev team

ded

>>166247326
there's never fucking been a credit economy

what fucking game are these people playing

they want credits to matter but still want item re-rolls to cost 200-350k? The fuck out o fhere

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>>166252973
how are you sustaining spirit? medkit?

>>166248658
>For unlocking your first hero after starting the game, it's been adjusted!
>>Complete the Raft Mission
>>Complete the Mission in the Training Room - >>Receive 400 Eternity Splinters
>>Log in for 7 days - Receive 200 Eternity Splinters
Scratch what I said about it being without any notice, it's on the patch notes, but listed near the bottom in the miscellaneous.

tbqh with how desperate they seem to be for money, you'll probably only get like 1 omega item every 6 hours so you'll feel compelled to buy the bif boost

>>166240707
>Omega was like 95% trash gimmick passives.
That's mostly due to how they designed the nodes. For the most part, they were trash in the way for something you wanted. They existed purely to waste your points and do nothing actually, but can I blame them? When theres 60 different heroes, it's hard to build unique ones. But they never actually tried and just backpeddled onto +Stats, the system failed because of them. Not due to the 'complexity' but how useless the nodes were.

>>166247326
>need to fix the credit problem
>never was actually a problem
>credits served mainly one purpose of rerolling
>buying 3 years worth of pretzel buff is just as much as rerolling an artifact a few times
>buying months of the odin buff is just as much as a few artifact rerolls
how many of them play the game . There's no credit sink because there's hardly a use for credits

>>166253631
Yeah little bit of spirit on hit and medkit is more then enough

>http://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/291630/
TTK thread for those asking.

ded... thread...ded game.....ded Supergroup

>>166253726
>adjusted
>instead of 600es + 400es in week 1 before, now the total is 600.
Literally jewed 40% of the currency from every new player.
The game is already trash and they are trying to punish new players More?!

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>page 10

Eh, it was good while it lasted muggas

WiltedCarrot was RIGHT

>>166257719
WE'RE ALL TOO BUSY SHITPOSTING ON THE OFFICIAL FORUMS AND PLAYING THE GAME

THIS BOARD MOVES TOO QUICKLY

>>166257681

>punish new players
>new players
>new

How the fuck are they going to know? They havent even played the game yet

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haha OWNED

>>166260425
GOT EM

>>166067357
The minimap gets a coloured border that says the difficulty when you mouse over it

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>>166260425

sude are you ever coming back?