/poeg/ - Xbox general

First for console release will change nothing

Second for console release will change nothing

>>166007870
>>166007924

Third for ill kill you stupid shits.

>leveled 4 characters i hate playing at endgame
>finally level one i enjoy
>no currency left to buy a chestpiece
fuck

somebody buy my 400es vortex dmg helm for 500c

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>>165936747
>FREE
>>165955232
>free
>>165955908
>free
>>165956627
>free
>>165958780
>free
>>165966390
>FREE
>>165973365
>FREE
>>165973936
>FREE
>>165977632
>free
>>165990863
>free
>>165990978
>free
>>166004596
>FREE
>>166005071
>Free
>>166005119
>free

i've fallen for the scourge meme lads

>>166008547
i fell for the howa meme

>>166008568
it's not a bad meme to fall for

>>166007924
>>166007870
>game will stay unbalanced and too easy if you just abuse every broken mechanic

welp.. RIP, even diablo has better balance and that's a dead game

>>166008568
HoWaA*

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>pathfinder gets unconditional 8% reduced elemental taken for 2 ascendancy points
>juggernaut has to spend 4 ascendancy points and only gets the same bonus at max end charges
Why ?

>>166009942
They're both gimmicky ascendancies, but juggernaut is less memey

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>poe on xbox

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>streamer breathlessly defending the console port
>someone asks how you're suppose to buy an item off poe.trade with XBox
>"with the auction house that'll come out later"
>someone asks what if there isn't an auction house
>"uhhhhh....."

so should i just cash my exalts for chaos or buy some shit with them?

Should I still start with this league or wait for the next? Whats a good build to start now

gee probably because the Jugg portion comes paired with the ability to have perma max endurance charges and massive damage to boot

hmmmmm

>>166011616
>perma max endurance charges
Not anymore

>mfw bought mtx and stash tabs so they can make an xbox version of the game instead of fixing the game adn adding an AH
nice one chris you bald fat fuck

>>166011686
Don't be a shitter m8

>>166011735
AH would kill the game, how fucking often do we have to tell you people that

so if you upgrade the anticipation does it reroll the stats again or no? wondering if i sell this and buy a Surrender or spend the 16~c for a blessing

What should I reroll? Just died on my flicker.

>>166012341
nothing for 6 weeks

>>166012141
>not realizing poe.trade is an AH

>>166012195
The stats get re-rolled, but you keep the links and colours.

What do you guys about /ourguys/ video on life vs es

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Post yfw when you didn't buy mtx's to fund the Xbone version

>>166013115
who

fucking terrible OP
nys

>>166012891
>third party de facto auction house is single handedly keeping the game alive
>this would suddenly kill the game if it were implemented by good goy games

kek, even youtube is turning on rejectpt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ve1RVq-CCk
>all those thumbs down

>>166013663
It is not an auctionhouse

think PT leaving the game is a good thing. Why can't we have critics who don't drop into abject negative presentations? What happened to saying whats on your mind without rubbing your fingers over the doomsday buttons? This whole video reads like a facebook/twitter rant about how someone is going to close their account and leave social media forever cause the world doesn't appreciate their genius. So childish.

>>166014253
>It is not an auctionhouse

>filter/search through page of items you want
>instead of buy out, you just whisp and then buy out
wow anon what a difference. If anything we would be able to trade with those fucker that take 1h to reply or are suddenly always offline

>>166014253
>people can manipulate the market because "lol don't have to sell it"
>2 parties both need to be online and not afk

So it's even worse than a fucking auction house WOW

Reminder that ProjectPT quit his job for PoE

>>166014402
>wow anon what a difference.
one is automated
the other is not

learn the difference you retarded fuck.

>>166014479
I'd rather have the automated.
Hell, we already whisp pre-made sentence and add a standard thank you after the trade

>>166014402
>>166014436
And those small details are exactly what prevents the game from being overrun by bots and dying

>>166007785
>Was about to get that currency tab too
Welp,i guess i saved those 7$.Time for a small break since i got my wings,maybe i'll come back next league if the rewards are good (as long as the xbone version gets canceled of course).

>>166014525
>he doesn't know

>>166014523
>I'd rather have the automated.
Who gives a shit? don't compare apples to oranges to give credence to your argument, if you even have one, the reason people bitch about how frustrating the current trade system is is because of non asynchronous trading NOT the fact that you can't shop your shit with the de facto gold currency buyouts

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>>166014525
>implying bots aren't already flipping currency and divination cards

>>166014525
>overrun by bots and dying
what the fuck?
Most of the content is done as a single player experience anyways, how would bot fuck that up?

Man I've played D2 for over 10 years and bots didnt ruin the game. They even created baalruns and made highrunes actually obtainable for a while. I'm not saying bots are a good thing, just that in an arpg (and not a mmo), having access to more items simply increase what you can do.

>>166014637
thanks for the fish and so long

>mfw channeling skills were created with consoles in mind
Also explains shit like Cast when Channeling,not enough buttons desu.

>they think bots aren't already affecting this game
I have a friend at this very moment who is in class with me (uni) AND trading at the same time because of his trade bot. HE can build whatever he wants since his bot flips and trade all day long. Meanwhile I'm too lazy to set one up, fuck.

how come perandus manor is so expensive? 10 ex in Standard SC? Does it even drop that good?

>>166014721
you can't possibly be this retarded
why did people start quitting d2 in droves? becaue botting and cheating was rampant and blizzard gave no shits about it

and bots made items more available? items were not available to the legit player with the way drop rates were balanced around bots, you're like someone thanking a guy for shoving his dick down your throat, he creates the problem and you thank him for it

>>166014525
Except there are already flipping bots and Diviner's farming bots aplenty.

>>166014848
there are != being overrun
can you retarded shits learn anything about nuance here? or does it always have to be immaculate white and shit stained brown?

best bf/poison build?

>>166014931
>we could have had a functioning auction house years ago but because of people like this nigger slurping on GGG's cock they feel like they don't have to implement it themselves
kys retard

>>166014837
>>166014931
>overrun
May have expressed myself poorly but I'll ask you this instead: what is the big deal about it being automated?

Why do you care? Seriously, why. You could probably spend more time actually playing. Why do you care if others bot and complete their build faster, who gives a shit?

>>166015037
not enough buzzwords, try a little harder

Max endurance charges dindu good hc build?

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Man it feels great to play self-found.

Like, I give 0 fuck about this if the next leagues are fun.

>>166015085
Shut the fuck up you absolute double nigger. I'm sure impressionable fuckboys like you are already rushing to defend the xbone release because daddy Chris told you it was a good idea and you internalize whatever bullshit he spews immediately.

>>166015039
>what is the big deal about it being automated?
Plenty of things actually. I'm not against asynchronous trading or cross-instance trading, which GGG has expressed the desire to implement in the past, something like being able to trade while you're in map or doing lab, but bidless buyouts is an entirely different matter and it takes someone very naive to think it wouldn't radically change the game for the worse.

>Why do you care? Seriously, why. You could probably spend more time actually playing.
Trading has to be balanced around playing. If one becomes too easy, the other loses its meaning. Trading is already too easy, in a sense. Which leads to a dissatisfying negative feedback loop where you feel like you're wasting your time trying to actually play the game instead of playing the market. Note that something hard does NOT mean time consuming or tedious, which poe.trade currently is with 50% of traders being afk/offline/"Sorry sold"

>Why do you care if others bot and complete their build faster, who gives a shit?
I literally don't. I don't compare myself to others, no-lifers or flippers, I care about how the proposed trading system would affect the game overall. An AH would tank the game faster than you could say "Oops, maybe I was wrong after all"

#166015410
>le double nigger xD
global rule 2

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Searching for specific modifiers using a controller.
Theorycrafting a build using console controller.
Playing inventory tetris with a console controller.
Dodging shaper balls and Malachi worms and traps with a console controller.
Rolling lots of maps with a console controller.
Shitposting with poeg with a console controller

kys retard

back to your containment board

>>166015442
>>166015560
Why do I just KNOW that you don't have 500 hours clocked in?

>>166013415
yoji

>>166015751
Played this game for over 3 years, also not an argument, try to debate with logic instead of being a strawmanning faggot. I can play this game too, here let me try:

Why do I just KNOW you're some retarded D3 refugee pushing for an AH like you're accustomed to despite history telling you it's most likely a pretty retarded idea?

the xbox port is the worst received news this game has ever had

everyone is pissed. so glad those supporter packs paid for something useless


kek

>>166015876
kys retard

>>166016127
not an argument ;^)

>>166016127
forgot your cat picture

Friend hasnt gotten past 45 on any of his characters on BHC and has 450+ chaos

He RMT'd, didnt he.

>>166016109
>the xbox port is the worst received news this game has ever had
according to whom? reddit?

>>166007785

I--that picture. How...what...I look like that.

Wtf?

>>166016168
>>166016175
kys retards

>>166016268
it's your nervous skeleton anon

in op's pic he cant wake up from the horror that is xbone

>>166016254
you don't have to defend GGG here, you don't get any internet points

>>166016309
>you don't have to disagree with reddit's overreaction, this isn't reddit

I wish you could realize how retarded you sound

>>166016301
forgot your cat picture

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>>166016359
>overreaction
wake up and smell the shit, idiot

this is the end of poe

>>166016436
kys retard

>>166016561
>>166016254

>>166011534
>streamers breathlessly defending their source of income
Not that surprising.

>>166016595
forgot your cat picture

>>166016717
kys retard

can I just shitpost in a general where the main topic isnt about how ded the gaem is?

>>166016910
wait until catshitter is gone

no you can't

google it

>>166016964
catshitter only posts ironically though

>>166017042
2017 was a mistake

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https://www.twitch
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>>166016964
kys retard

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heyyyyy
what do we have here?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMVgVam3W38

>>166017469
forgot your cat picture

>>166017536
stay on reddit, retard
nobody likes you here

>>166017479
where your MTX money went

>>166017460
consoleplebs
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT

>>166017536
>That vid
Pretty much desu.

>>166017541
kys retard

>>166017790
forgot your cat picture

>>166018028
kys retard

i have a Surrender shield, what build do i do
just copy alkaizer or some variant of it?

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oh my god what the fuck
is this really the apocalypse?
what should I believe? is this boat really sinking?
we're going full diablo 3?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ve1RVq-CCk
Is he right?

>>166018347
PT has been trash-talking every single change / new content that GGG introduced, i never saw him be positive, not even once. He constantly trash talk GGG like they're the shittiest Game Developpers ever. And yet he still plays 6 hours of PoE "that is so horribly optimised and where balance is so shit and everything that GGG makes is so retarded" per day.

It won't be a loss for the community if he leaves.

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>>166018446
he's right though

Questions for you guys:

About the corrupted portal gem:
- is it possible to find one in a breach or is this only obtainable by corrupting a portal gem?
- I'm assuming that each breach is a unique thing, and so opening one on top of another creates another breach (they dont "merge") correct? Otherwise it could be possible to use it in a domain and make the boss/boss room available even if the timer is out. Is this correct?

Also I was looking at my legacy stuff (been here since 2012) and I still have a bunch of old maps. Do they interact at all with the atlas? Is there anything interesting,to do with them?

>>166018446
honestly this, but less against PT.
Hes being a knowitall bitch in this video but i can respect his knowledge and experience in the game. imo he's jumping the gun if hes saying this is a terrible move and will be a detriment to the game.
Also unless he was a head of a company with 100+ people to employ and manage, how can he comment on how GGG is a corporate mess. yes the MTX's are priced fucking retardedly and i agreed with his views on that in the video he made a while back but still..GGG and other lesser f2p companies that dont have the luxury of a huge vault behind them are in a unique position where it seems as though they may or may not be teetering on the edge of failure at any moment. Idk

>want to try something with mines
>they are clunky as a billion fucks to use
GGG will remove this shit come 3.0.0 instead of improving it, mark my fucking words

>>166015627
>Dodging shaper balls and Malachi worms and traps with a console controller.

you're right except for that one, in fact you're not the only one that said something along this line:
>good luck xbox players maneuvering the labyrinth

here's the deal:
a joystick for movement is FAR better than pointing and clicking

it's the other way around, console gamers will move better with a gamepad, I can't believe how some PC games are so alien to using a gamepad that they truly believe a mouse is fucking better for movement

and no, I won't play the console version

>>166019046
>Hes being a knowitall bitch in this video but i can respect his knowledge and experience in the game
lmao what the fuck

>>166019050
I wouldn't put it past them at this point.They've become so uncreative these days,when was the last time they introduced a fun and interesting support gem?One that wasn't just a "% more damage"?

Also,i guess that's why the whole Frostbolt/Vortex combo feels so clunky,it was made with a controller in mind.

>>166019236
with regards to how he thinks he know the inner working of GGG

>>166019528
you got it the wrong way around you waste woodpecker, he's fucking awful at the game and everything that comes out of his mouth is retarded but he's not wrong in this one case

>>166019694
lick your lips and tell us how his semen tastes

ice crash or earthquake with wep+shield?

>>166020394
IC

>reading howa guide
>says to level with ED instead of something useful with aoe

what

>ED is single target

what

>>166020394
eq is always better

>>166020775
>>166020775
Fires a projectile that applies a damage over time debuff when it hits. You are healed for a portion of the debuff damage

How is it not?

>>166019153
A mouse is faster and more precise, now a joystick might end up doing better in your fantasy-categories, but that won't help your case nor your spacing.

>>166020904
dude just link it to LMP

>>166020986
You really dont get how analogue stick movement works

>>166020904
>what are fucking support gems
I guess you REALLY need that guide on how to level up.

The main forum is fucking hilarious. All these muh money, refund!

Its like people dont know what donation/support is

>>166020260
?
I just called PT a complete and utter retard and you're saying you respect his >>>>experience and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>game knowledge

>>166021335
the fags crying for refunds are the same neets who havent spent a penny on the game

>>166021438
>but he's not wrong in that case
you love his cock nigga, you slurp on it like a hungry hippo

>>166021493
xD

>>166021467
I didn't complain but you do know that even if you have no supporter titles, you still could have spent a shit ton of money on anything else than packs

I wasted more than a hundred bucks on this crap and have no title to show that, not that I would want any, judging posters on their tittles is a poor judgement

Boy do I love seeing Charan ALWAYS using his money as an argument. Fucking unreal.

>>166022263
>reading forums

>>166022371
Yes I love reading forums when there's news like this. The salt is delicious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TzyAKXzadw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMVgVam3W38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsV_HCe_mBU

I laugh hard at all these cucks who think anything will be worse after the xbox release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM0XGwh_1_I

>>166024140
It's easy money, most of the game code and ALL of the assets can be reused for the port. You'd have to be stupid not to try, especially considering there's barely any competition on xbox.

>>166022263
Is he still being salty? Link?

>>166024416
exactly.
more money, more players, all for basically FREE.

I dont get it, how can you be a path of exile player and not like FREE MORES?

>>166024497
freeposter has conditioned us, rightfully so, that nothing is FREE

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>>166024497

99% of the complains and skepticism about the port can be encompassed in 1 sentence:

How can GGG be expected to keep 2 separate games working well, balanced and fun when they can't even manage that with 1?

And all the arguments about it pretty much hinge on: "Pls have faith!!!"

>>166024719
if the game is not balanced and fun, why are you still here?

>>166024829
ARPG market is shit.

>>166024829
addiction and lack of self esteem

>>166024497
there's still the cost of servers for consoles, dev time (and money) spent on porting for console in the future, and the deserved concern that the future additions to the game could be considered with console limitations in mind, therefore impacting us. (skill mechanics, UI, level generation etc.)

Also, i'd really like to see where they found they'd have an audience on consoles, what kind of market, expected profits, etc.

"We want the diablo 3 console audience too!"
"I'm porting to Xbone right now sir!"
"Isn't D3 mostly played on PS4?"

"... Fuck."

>>166025092
>dev time (and money) spent on porting for console in the future
here's the thing
they already have a team working on that
it's not taking away time for anyone working on the PC version

as for money not being spent on the PC version, you have approximately no say in what GGG decides to spend it on, they could spend it on drugs and hookers for all I care, they don't owe you anything

>>166025317
And we dont owe to pay them anymore

>>166025317
finally a real dev here to step in and calm everyone down. Thanks I for one appreciate your hard works !

>>166018319
>we're going full diablo 3?
Not yet, leech is still in the game.

>>166024829
I gave up once I realized that the game never got fun and was just grinding to show off your epeen.

>>166025438
but that's not what those fucking retards asking for a refund are saying, are they?

if you don't like the game anymore, walk away
how simple is that, do you have a victim complex? the world doesn't revolve around your tiny person

>>166025317
HERE HERE

>>166025317
>they already have a team working on that
>it's not taking away time for anyone working on the PC version
Exactly, i too knwo this because I read it from a trustworthy source.

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>>166025317

>>166025703
how about some common sense you fucking retard? how do you think companies work? everyone share the same skills and competences and workload is evenly distributed however the CEO decides it? or do you have people hired for a specific skillset?

shit, they hired more web programmers to polish their website, and more support techies to deal with customers, WHY IS THAT MONEY NOT SPENT ON BALANCING THE GAME REEEEE

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>>166025317
>here's the thing

>>166025828
takes a homo queer fruitcake to even save that picture on his computer

get away from me you AIDS ridden cockroach

>>166025815
gz on making shit up.

ill just quote this guy
>>166024719
>How can GGG be expected to keep 2 separate games working well, balanced and fun when they can't even manage that with 1?

>>166025951
Want to come over talk about corporate structure and read some lore?

>>166025954
making what shit up? you're a clueless retard who has no idea how a game company even begins to function

>How can GGG be expected to balance their game when they hire MTX artists and web programmers
is how retarded you sound

>>166025815
Here's the thing. What you're saying is they hired people to make xbone and not to work on their core game. This is one of people's primary complaints at the moment. Relax a moment and maybe wait past the post timer next time.

>>166025954
>How can GGG be expected to keep 2 separate games working well, balanced and fun when they can't even manage that with 1?

not a loaded question at all

>>166026158
>>How can GGG be expected to balance their game when they hire MTX artists and web programmers

You're the only person here saying this. I'm not sure what else to say to you.

>>166026179
>This is one of people's primary complaints at the moment.
but not the complaint I specifically replied to, which is that people working on one specific area of the game somehow is related to the quality of another area even though either team is likely not to share the same skillset/have the same expectations to meet at all

relax a moment and maybe take the dick out of your mouth, try to follow a quote chain before butting in like another goddamn faggot

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>>166017460
Twitch chat was a mistake.

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>>166026186

>>166026291
common sense time

when they say they hired people specifically for the console port and CPU optimization, does this

a) sound likely to you because those people are likely to be experienced in that one domain

b) sound like horseshit because they probably pulled guys who were busy balancing the game

in the end, you believe what you choose to believe, but keep in mind one of those choices make you sound a little retarded for anyone with a shred of critical thinking

>>166026331
>but not the complaint I specifically replied to
You did no such thing. Also, homophobia is NOT welcome on this board.

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>>166026503

>>166026503
>in the end, you believe what you choose to believe
Thanks for the insight bro

>>166026843
>insight
think you mean permission

>>166026565
here's to refreshing your memory since you have the attention span of a goldfish and can't even begin to understand a quote chain

I replied to
>>166025703
implying that the team working on the console port was indeed taking time away from the team working on the pc version

I specifically addressed that complaint, learn to read you moron
if you want to complain GGG is hiring the wrong people, that is to say you implicitly agree that it was a conscious hiring decision rather than pulling pre existing employees to form a new team, then you're complaining about something else

>Also, homophobia is NOT welcome on this board.
you talk and act like a goddamn faggot
your sexuality is not in question here

>>166024416
warframe did it and warframe is shit

it's also more successful than poe

>>166026843
i like how you dodged the question
afraid of sounding like a retard when your thinking is laid out in plain sight?

dude, GGG needs to stop releasing MTX, why are they not focused on balancing the game? pull those goddamn MTX designers and put them on the balance team asap

>>166026565
lol faggot

>>166026990
>say you implicitly agree that it was a conscious hiring decision
I'll tacitly disagree it was unconscious if you can make some more shit up

>stop making 2 leagues a season
>i-its because we want a coherent experience not because we pulled people to work on the port goys

>>166027134
i think youre arguing with people on the official forums and no one here dude

>>166027254
i adressed the complaint of console team taking away time from pc team as if they were not different people in the first place with no overlap

you came and starting sperging like a retard "yeah but they hired people for something entirely different than the pc version!! that's what people are complaining about!!" yeah, it's slightly different

learning comprehension
work on that

If there can be any evidence GGG has lied in the past I will remiss.

>>166027490
>this knew

>>166027265
nope they specifically said creating 2 leagues at once was a waste of dev time, not because of any "coherent experience"

>>166014402
you don't have access to every offline player's items
you don't have automatic trade
you don't have trade restrictions

you want to be handed every item in the game while not playing the game/playing minimally so yoir fat retarded ass can play ah simulator instead. kys you shit eating faggot

>>166027626
what the fuck is the difference

>>166027626
and that's how i know it's true as well

>>166027265
it was a good decision anyway. SC players dont like HC and vice-versa.

Only a tiny minority can stomach 2 league grind

>>166027705
the difference is they were open about it

just like they dropped pvp racing like a hot potato, not popular enough, not worth the dev time until "later in the future, maybe"

>>166027452
>as if they were not different people in the first place with no overlap
no one said this here. you made it up.

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>keep asking for fixes to things for 3 years
>get console version instead

>>166027265
>>166027721
also we may only have got 1 league at a time, but league quality went up quite a bit

>>166027810
how can team A working on project A take away time from team B working on project B? the only way that's possible is if team A was part of B at some point, not new people hired specifically for the purpose of project A

by implying GGG is lying about that, you're implying that just because you work at a game company, you're responsible for literally everything from game balance to CPU optimization to lore and animation and item design and tech support

which I pointed out is quite retarded and you've yet to defend your position

>>166024829
despite its flaws, its among the better online arpgs out there

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>>166027861

>>166027857
are you implying that GGG hasnt fixed a thing in three (3) years?

>>166025317
i would really prefer it if they blew the money on coke and child prostitutes

at least some hedonism can give them a sense of perspective of what they are really doing and what they should be doing, like it has happened to many historical figures

>>166027974
you can hire people for team a or team b. you hire them for a instead of b. there ya go.

also im not implying anything, youre making that up as well.

>>166028049
oh boy, we got a twitch warrior here

>>166028056
the only performance fixes we've gotten are because of the xbox port

the only trade improvements we've gotten are p2w tabs

>>166027857
if you stayed with a broken piece of shit for 3 years, you're either an incredibly loyal customer or an incredibly easily manipulated one

>>166027974
>how can team A working on project A take away time from team B working on project B?
because you have to the most naive and dense fucker alive to believe that. they have to run ideas across each other because it becomes painfully inefficient not to when they know doing so beforehand saves time.

>>166028056
>melee is viable
>specters are viable and minions don't have shit AI
>life is technically better than ES
>ground effects are still in the game and still shit on your performance the same despite "performance improvements"

>>166028169
so despite saying they havent fixed anything in three (3) years you're able to immediately provide two (2) examples of things being fixed

>>166028180
That's not how you talk about your mother!

>>166028049
i told ya about that diablo 2, bro
you wouldn't believe me
WHY WOULDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME?

>>166028162
>you can hire people for team a or team b. you hire them for a instead of b.
that's a business decision that you can disagree with, except it's not at all the same complaint as claiming they're pulling people from team B to form team A

you retarded fuck.

zero reading comprehension, I'd have better success talking to a fucking toddler

>>166028293
fixed only because GGG wants more money, not because they owe it to us for giving them money and dealing with their bullshit for all these years

>>166028169
>the only performance fixes we've gotten are because of the xbox port
My favorite part is Chris Wilson said this like it's a cool thing the playerbase should be happy about. And thankful for. and not incredibly fucked up.

>>166028226
there is a difference between fixing everything and fixing nothing anon, I know its hard for your mind to making distinctions that arent black and white but at least try for the sake of your mother

>>166028224
since you're smartest guy in this thread, please enlighten all of us on how

console port + CPU optimization
overlaps with
game balance

>>166028362
>that's a business decision that you can disagree with
Thanks?

> it's not at all the same complaint as claiming they're pulling people from team B to form team A

You are still the only person in this thread who has concocted this complaint.

>>166028378
>fixed only because GGG wants more money

so you do agree that they fixed things. why would you lie on the internet in the first place then?

>>166028180
I dropped a F2P game where I spent 600+USD without any problems when shit crossed the line, I won't have any problems dropping this one where I spent 20.
I didn't "stay with it for 3 years" either, I just started playing again on Essence after not playing for at least a year.

>>166028520
you're ignoring the point retard

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>>166027626
>a waste of dev time
when they could be making a port?

I would have felt a lot better about this whole thing if they were releasing PoE as a standalone game and wouldn't require employing another team to maintain updates. That tells me they're all in on xbox and that absolutely will impact PC version development negatively.

>>166028510
nope, you're just too much of a dense motherfucker now hiding behind the "but I didn't mean it that way"' card

GGG hires people for the console port

in no way, shape or form takes away "time" from the people responsible on working for the PC version

it takes away MONEY, not TIME

>>166028406
Return to reddit where sucking Chris's dick might get you something.

>>166028569
lets reread
>>166027857
>keep asking for fixes to things for 3 years
>get console version instead

yet people willing admit fixes happened, what do you have to benefit from telling lies on the internet?

>>166028664
>i disagree with your points you must be the oogy boogy reddit man

shitposting used to mean something here

>>166028582
at the very least everything they add to the game from now on will also have to work on the console version in order to save money

>>166028495

will not be mechanically identical to the pc version, so someone will have to balance the console experience

newer skills will have be designed with console portability in mind (all the channeling shit was a stealth revamp to make many skills better usable on dual stick config, and id be they were planned that way because of the console port)

new boss fights, mechanics, etc, all will have to be designed, planned and balanced with a console port in mind

>>166028495
Consider the fact it's not a straight port, they must make numerous fundamental changes and going forward, trying to find the most efficient way to implement them. Would it be to keep pushing out PC patches with xbox as an afterthought or to try and make the two interoperable ahead of time knowing doing so will save them much time and headaches?

>>166028643
EARTH HAS 4 CORNER

SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY

TIME CUBE

WITHIN SINGLE ROTATION.

4 CORNER DAYS PROVES 1

DAY 1 GOD IS TAUGHT EVIL.

IGNORANCE OF TIMECUBE4

SIMPLE MATH IS RETARDATION

AND EVIL EDUCATION DAMNATION.

CUBELESS AMERICANS DESERVE -

AND SHALL BE EXTERMINATED.

>>166028573
no, because those are two different sets of people
try to keep up, retard

>>166028759
>new boss fights, mechanics, etc, all will have to be designed, planned and balanced with a console port in mind
of course they will. That ggg explicitly stated this isn't case means they are lying.

>>166028721
Show me where I said they didn't fix anything in 3 years you dumb piece of shit.
You can't, because I didn't.
I said there are things that have been asked to be fixed for 3 years and still aren't.

Kill yourself you illiterate twat.

>>166028787
rude

>>166028898
I just did anon, if you asked for fixes and got a console version instead you imply that you received no fixes

you confirmed this by replying to my initial post
>>166028056

>>166028643
>it takes away MONEY, not TIME
so youre saying theyre spending money on the console port that could have otherwise been spent on the core pc game. that is what EVERYONE here is saying. that is the complaint. glad youre onboard.

Is the new Median XL out yet

>>166028759
>will not be mechanically identical to the pc version, so someone will have to balance the console experience
why do you assume those will be the same people?

why do you live in this magical fairy world where GGG is a company of 5 guys and one guy, let's call him the balance guy, oversees the balance of everything?

again, resources will need to be distributed, but that's already done at the point of hiring people with a specific skillset, not randomly reattributing tasks to people hired to work on something specific

>>166029214
>why do you assume those will be the same people?
No one is but you crazypants

>>166029104
yawn
I addressed that complaint too >>166025317
>they could spend it on drugs and hookers for all I care
i.e. I don't give a shit about those tears, if you're unhappy with their business decisions, deal with it kiddo, don't come up with some other bullshit about not trusting what GGG claims to be their reasons, because then you're called out on the ground of common sense then vanish away

you really can't read can you?
fucking 3rd grader retards in here

>>166029423
Epic! keep it up man im bored as hell

>>166029335
TIME is from a dev team working on B doesn't have to be distributed to team A if those are different people you fucking RETARD

MONEY is finite and income IS distributed but disagreeing with how it's spent is a matter of opinion, NOT LOGIC or COMMON SENSE

caps so your tiny bird brain can understand what we're talking about

>>166029214

It doesn't matter if its a completely new team (which i think will be the case, they need someone experienced with console controls and console player's habits), it doesnt matter if it already has been going on for a year (which i believe so).

It means that resources we believe were spent improving our version of the game, have now been stealth-feeding 3 dev branches of it: the chink version (admiteddly, very similar to our own), the console version, and ours.

Resources are always scarce, and how you spend them determines what you get out of them.

>>166029587
4/10
too close to the timecube parody already posted

>>166029642
it matters because it changes the validity of your complaint, faggot. don't agree with GGG's business decision, walk away, shit talk the game, make a youtube video. who gives a shit? it's your right. stop acting like you understand how a game company works, it's really aggravating to see children with no real life experience talk about the real world

>>166029682
cool, another braindead retard who vanishes when he has to argue with logic rather than memes

you'll fit right in here, reddit bro

>>166029587
What on earth makes you think it as an efficient use of time to have a bunch of heads all each acting on their own volition when they are required to be working together in some way in order to be most efficient? What happens when head A does something that totally fucks over head B when this situation could have been avoided by the two heads not acting independent from another? And as soon as you realize this, herein lies the part where time is objectively taken from development of the PC version

feed it more pls

>>166030037
>when this situation could have been avoided by the two heads not acting independent from another

if this situation is happening it is a complete failure of management, plenty of ways to deal with conflicts like this

>>166030037
you really have NO idea how any project remotely structured works, do you? do you really think have 50 programmers having a daily meeting and agreeing on what gets the greenlight or not? have you EVER been in ANY kind of programming project of ANY size in your life? or been managed by ANYONE? yes? no? really need confirmation of your exhaustive real life experience to back you up here

truly interesting times ahead

>>166030037
THIS guy gets it. Glad someone her has clearly worked a real qorld job before smdh

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>>166029924
>don't agree with GGG's business decision, walk away, shit talk the game, make a youtube video. who gives a shit?

Apparently you do give a shit.

All you've tried to do for the past hour is undermine complains and claim that only You Know the Truth of how a game company works.Which you might, but everybody else who has worked on a project under limited budget, and has been asked to branch out dev to simultaneously tackle another project, even if derivative, understands the reality of splitting resources: things either start going slower and launch windows suffer, or going bad and end user experience suffers. Either way its bad, and only more money can mitigate it, to a point.

It all boils down to whether or not we believe GGG can pull it off, and i dont believe they can. As it was been mentioned, they can't even deliver the pc version in a state that can be even remotely considered complete or balanced.

>>166030271
>need confirmation of your exhaustive real life experience to back you up here
you first. ill take a linkdin profile

>>166030407
>Which you might
nah. pretty sure you need to understand the concept of diverting resources first.

>>166030252
now you're adding a third head to the mix which must relay information that again takes additional time to communicate and by being an indirect source, additional errors are more likely to occur which = more lost time. you haven't solved the problem you've shifted it to a new medium

>>166030271
>zero counterpoint oh shit i got nothing attack the anon not the subject!
hang yourself from a palm tree, retard

>>166030407
I "undermine" complaints about retards who speculate on how a game company works, not complaints about people disagreeing with a console port, which is 100% their opinion, but I do have to point out getting so riled up over a f2p game is quite laughable, it's not like you invested anything into a long term project, your commitment to it has no real importance at the end of the day

i.e. you are in your own right to disagree with GGG, stop acting like a drama knowitall queen about it though, because you sound dangerously like an attention whore at that point

>>166030407
>they can't even deliver the pc version in a state that can be even remotely considered complete or balanced

how is these objective assessments?

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>An ACTUAL ggg shill is shilling here.
What happened to GGG? They had such potential.

>>166030596
who claimed their objective?

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>tfw been playing for four years and haven't spent ANY money

thousands of hours and several HC demis won i've had my fun haha enjoy your p2w casual shit game haha

>>166030593
>because you sound dangerously like an attention whore at that point

>posts 50 times in an hour

>>166030697
they are being used over and over as a benchmark of what is wrong with the game

>>166030587
kinda difficult to argue with logic when someone spews something so fucking retarded they just have to make their lack of real life work experience obvious

by your logic, the critical mass of a programming unit is reached at about 10 people, because how could any more act together without wasting more time agreeing with each other than actually doing some work?

you DO realize there are people in the work industry whole sole job is to oversee and coordinate a team effort right? they're called managers, look it up, it's an actual real world thing

>>166026331
> ggg has infinite resources
> they can afford to hire an endless supply of mtx artists and xbone programmers
> this won't affect the time effort skill and finances being put toward other areas of the game

Oh really now?

once you're done with your tantrum i bet your guys will be back at it just like before like nothing happened

>>166030934
its pretty obvious from the first statement
>>166030587
this anon has never worked with a competent management team in his life

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>>166030593
>it's not like you invested anything into a long term project, your commitment to it has no real importance at the end of the day

I've invested time playing, discussing and consuming content about the game.

My commitment to a hobby (vidya) and in specific to this game has real importance to me and i bet others share my concern.

This is the official forum where you can flag down your favorite mod to erase threads you dont like or sound too critical of GGG. This place is ANTI-GGG for all i care and you should not be surprised of the opinions you read here.

>>166030596
Its an objective consensus of a pop sample that includes POEG. If you dont believe so, you are newfaggot who never reads this general.

>>166030872
proving the game objectively isn't balanced isn't possible, because balance is subjective.

But if there's enough people that feel this way (with enough also being subjective) it should be taken into account

>>166030829
oooohh, tell me how many internet points I won during that timespan?

I don't make a ranty video about it though, you on the other hand, sound word for word like a rambling rejectpt crying GGG has betrayed everything they stood for

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>>166030934
nothing you posted contends with the situation where no matter how many retards you shit out and divide, they must communicate in some way to avoid shitting out an even bigger retard then before which is precisely where you will never EVER be able to claim isn't time lost.

>>166030934
>by your logic, the critical mass of a programming unit is reached at about 10 people
did you.....make that number up ??????????

where's your cv poetard

>>166031042
true balance would require everything to same though and no one will admit to wanting that

>>166031062
nah, just want you to keep this up until lunch, man.

>>166031007
nope i saw the tides changing prior to 2.0 and the streamer fiasco and haven't played or supported since

there are numerous unbelievably glaring flaws needing be addressed that are simply beyond explanation that all make perfect sense now

>>166031140
>they must communicate in some way
you DO realize there are people in the work industry whole sole job is to oversee and coordinate a team effort right? they're called managers, look it up, it's an actual real world thing

>>166031160

but no one wants TRUE balance. that wold be horrid and boring

we want to be able to build a perception that things are balanced within the limits of preserving a sense of variety

but even that isnt possible right now. if you dont understand this, you simply dont play the game enough or at all

>>166031160
>true balance
uhm, okay. i mean, you just kinda made that term up so you can define it however you like. I dont think anyone is asking for something they obviously wouldnt want, they just feel conned (by a game company that has a history of not being upfront)

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hi poeg

should i buy the WoW expansion?

>>166031390
how did I make up a term when I used the literal definition of the word balance?

try buying your way out of virginity lol

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always happy when poeg discusses TRUTH

>>166031347

>managers smooth over different approaches to a problem
>managers communicate needs and concerns among several groups so problems can be tackled in a way that solutions can be complicit to each other instead of competitive to each other

this alone means that each group has to spend some extra time worrying about the shit others are doing

even if they never meet.

>>166031357
>the grass is greener on the other side of the fence

>>166031496
you qualified it with "True". What is True poetard?

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>>166031347
no matter what role you want to assign to communicator this process of relaying takes time. time that otherwise would not be necessary of the project did not exist. a manager isn't a tape recorder. the memebers of the team they work with must answer to the manager questions pertinent to the info being relayed.

My question is why are you taking so much time out of your day to lie? How much are you getting paid? I hope you wouldn't be this dumb or be doing it for free

>>166031596
nope, it's a trickle down system
>this alone means that each group has to spend some extra time worrying about the shit others are doing
no, that's the job of managers
are you quite literally retarded?

>>166031614
>The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

>>166031680
that depends of your education

for most rational people, true balance in a game means underlaying numerical equivalence

which is why its undersirable

>>166031680
true as in the true definition of the word not the way everyone interprets to suit themselves

>>166031778
>Better safe than sorry.

>there was a several month long delay before the new skills were released
>when they were finally put into the game they were boring and shitty
>everyone wondering what GGG is doing

it all makes sense now

scorching pee was designed to be a console skill. poe being dumbed down for console is already happening

>>166031698
love it when virgins whose life work experience consists of flipping burgers try to envision how a real work place looks like, always a good chuckle

keep it up, champ

>>166031895
explain blade flurry

>>166031783
>that depends of your education
i assure you the definition of truth doesn't depend on my education

>>166031809
Well the literal definition of balance doesn't suit games, which is why no one uses it in that manner.

>>166031740

stop pretending taskgroups act in complete isolation

its not fucking NSA, managers will often tell you outright shit needs to be certain way so it works they way they want. and how that way is will be determined by what other groups are doing as well

>>166031994
>faceroll skill that requires little to no aiming

no different than scorching pee

>>166031982
>Actions speak louder than words

>>166032061
give some examples of non-faceroll skills then

>>166032045
you have a task set for you and you set to accomplish it

why and how that task is set or how it evolves over time is of no concern to you

fucking retard

>>166031994
it's even better example than scorching ray lol

>>166032152
fuck off

>>166032031
>i assure you the definition of truth doesn't depend on my education

i assure you it does

depending on your education, "truth", can either be a social construct, a meaningless language crutch or something metaphysical

>>166032191
no :^)

>>166031982
$0.05 has been deposited into your account.

>>166032160
>why and how that task is set or how it evolves over time is of no concern to you

IDEALLY, kid. Ideally

But in reality, emergent situations and """""""asymmetrical problems""""""""""""" in implementation will mean you end up stepping in other's people shit and other will step in yours. Those are the realities of being a dev.

>>166032273
$0.05 that will not be used to balance your ice crash vaal glacial hammer templar, keep the tears coming

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>>166032368
>>166032273

>>166032204
I had no idea my GED defined truth for others. I'll take this responsibility more seriously in the future.

why so many manchildren here try so hard to appear smart and impress others is beyond me

what are you trying to prove

>>166032537
what you are you trying to prove

>>166013904
I mean, is being a memeastic mustard, i don't get why so much outrage about it

now i won't have to play the game in shitty clay graphics now.

i still want a ps4 release tho

>>166032537
im only here to impress your mum m9

has she mentioned me yet

>>166032608
what you are you trying to prove :D:D

>>166032537
>You can’t please everyone

>>166032608
that intelligent discourse seems to have become a rarity here

313th for console release will change nothing

i really want to know how on earth you create builds on xbox? if i didn't have to buy an xbox gold sub to play and they pulled this off i'd had bought myself a damn xbox

>>166032679
>Love is blind

so uh..

i guess you'd control the dude with the left stick like in other games, no more of that clicking with cursor to maneuver etc?

>>166032816
you wont

there will be premade builds and you will be able to select among them

ziggyD will be the one advising on what builds to include and how to tweak them

>>166032772
this

we will have more people playing i think.

imagine working very hard at something for two years or more and being met with nothing but backlash when you announce all your work is soon ready to be released

>console release changes nothing
>preemptively assuming xbox version makes no money/splits even
>wondering why they wasted time on a loss/nothing
>assume xbox makes money
>actually believing a profitable form of income won't alter the PC version negatively in order to extract max profits
christ GGG shills sure are a delusional bunch

>>166032816
with the same tools on pc? gosh i think is not hard to pull off.

>>166033036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIH-OlxUTn0

>>166032972

is this how things normally go for anyone making entertainment products?

>new star wars come out
>its SHIT
>new star trek series
>WILL BE SHIT

etc

>>166033036
what if GGG takes the increased income from xbone and spends it on the PC side honoring its loyal customer base?

>>166033052
except on pc you can easily and quickly multitask between game/offline tree/spreadsheet/forums

xbox is hooked to tv living room where most people don't spend time doing this

so you have to leave the living room every 5 seconds to tweak your build? or print off your build or something? sounds like dogshit to me

>>166033124
Not many people have an Xbone, that's the thing.

>>166033124

time will tell friendo

>>166033124
>what if an alien civilization declares war on humanity?

some possibilities are just too unprobable to bother with

>>166033251
xbox one sold over 20 million copies

>>166033124
yeah spend the money you just made to not improve the thing adding you a new stream of revenue/don't try and keep the income flowing in by appeasing your new source of income. brilliant! why didn't i just think of that first? it's TOO easy.

>>166033274
>a company staying loyal to their base is more unlikely than aliens visiting earth

shitposting on a whole other level

>>166033220
>Doesn't have his console next to your PC
>Or having a laptop at least

i think is still doable.

>>166033124
lol, good one

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Hello /poeg/ and welcome to the Xbox One community! With your new system you will find yourself sharing online spaces with other lovely communities such as /hg/ and /gowg/. When your game launches you can hop in for free with an added $5/m subscription and play the game you know and love, and don't forget to purchase Xbox exclusives such as Halo Wars 2 and Crackdown!

One last thing you little rascals...
We own you

>loyal customer base
You mean the one who threatens to quit whenever their favorite skill is nerfed?

>>166033321
it's also parity sales wise with ps4 in USA where majority of poe fanbase is from something like 10.5 mil vs 11mil in us

>>166033434
most xbox users do not have a pc next to them in the living room where the overwhelming vast majority of consoles are played, yes. console users also aren't keen on not having all they need "self contained"

>>166033464
no, the ones that wade through a mountain of patches to make the game playable each major update

>xbox port comes out
>consoleturds complain about X
>X gets changed for both versions

This WILL happen.

in all seriousness, who's up for a new guild? xbone ladder only

>>166033689
me

>>166033660
>Both versions will be Cross-Played

bet your ass on this.

>>166033448

play some hardcore small fry

>>166033689
get that guild tag now

nintendo Switch port when

>343 replies
>55 unique ips
this general is pathetic
bunch of twats arguing with each other over literally nothing

>>166033615
itt: anon forgets what a laptop is

>>166033857
/vg/ is ded anon