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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, January 18th:
1701 – Frederick I crowns himself King of Prussia in Königsberg.
1871 – Wilhelm I of Germany is proclaimed Kaiser Wilhelm in the Hall of Mirrors of the Palace of Versailles (France) towards the end of the Franco-Prussian War. Wilhelm already had the title of German Emperor since the constitution of 1 January 1871, but he had hesitated to accept the title.
1915 – Japan issues the "Twenty-One Demands" to the Republic of China in a bid to increase its power in East Asia.
1919 – World War I: The Paris Peace Conference opens in Versailles, France.

>News
CK2 DD37 - Three Times Greater
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-dd-37-three-times-greater.994778/

EU4 - 17/01
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-17th-of-january-2017.994909/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!PQgxyACD!bpcXXoWI3Pfu_PJ1_sz5D7wKYO2OStEWr_npgpw0B_w

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V9
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

Old Thread >>165863115
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Are pagan niggas in ck2 any fun?
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>>165931564
based
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>>165931610
The sons of Ragnar in the TOG start
Genghis Khan
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>>>/sci/8609662
>>>/sci/8609662
>>>/sci/8609662
>>>/sci/8609662
Faggots are trying to copy us
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Why was the last thread deleted? Wtf?
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>deleting a thread with that many posts
>never deleted those threads made 100+ posts earlier
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>>165931757
Nah, mane I mean nigga niggas, like Mali and Wagadugu. I'm playing HIP.
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>>165931776
it's just an acronym
calm down
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>>165931927
The answer is "no" then.
Maybe mansa musa.
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As a CK2 player that never managed to enjoy other paradox games as much as CK, Is it worth picking up Stellaris on sale? I've only seen a little bit about the game so far so I don't know what to expect.
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>>165932062
No.
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>>165932036
But he is a muslim
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>>165932062
Stellaris is a garbage game for Reddit normies.
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>>165931610
no west african is a horrible meme religion
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>>165932161
then 'no'
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>>165932295
No kangz roleplaying for me then
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>>165932062
No, it's fun for 1 hour then it gets super repetetive, and not in the good, autistic way. It's so bad it even flopped hard with normies.
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>>165932062
Stellaris is basically EU4 in space so if you don't like EU4 it's not for you.
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torrent to gary's war in the east game?
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What the fuck happened in my game guys.
Francia invaded Scandinavia and now Denmark is currently extinct.
And fucking Scotland won a crusade and won half of the Iberian peninsula. Is this supposed to happen?
Also sorry for the photo I took it to show a friend who doesn't have an online presence.
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>>165932351
just pick a random one
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Let me just leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2LwcJBLMPo
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>>165932791
>is this supposed to happen

Nothing is supposed to happen.

Except Anschluss.
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>>165932791
>phone picture
You should kill yourself.
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>>165932893
>Texas is the only state that gets its own borders

Based. Already preordered 20 copies, will post keys for y'all soon
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Anyone want to play some WitW? I'm extremely new so you can practice your no lube assrape
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wat do i do now
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>>165933124
Thailand
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>y-you can't just bring back the old map with dragging and dropping

Looks like I almost have.

Deniers and Simsulla on suicide watch. Step aside ladies, I'll fix NWO's newer versions for you.
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>>165933252
based
The amount of retarded shit in NWO is astounding
Apparently he thinks Romansh people are related to Romanians
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This is a call for more images of your current games/maps/whatever

I can't play and can only view this thread.
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>>165933252
While you're at it, make all the impassable mountain ranges (like the one between China and India) visible, so you know when you have to circle around shit that looks passable.
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>>165933252
>almost have
So....there is a problem?
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>>165933379
which is why we're better off making our own mod
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>>165933379
>he also thinks that the roma are related to the romanians

Yep, retarded as fuck.
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>>165933415

>>165933526
I've been touching up a bunch of stuff in NWO 1.07 and there's a LOT of work put into it
It would be a hell of a task for one person to make something similar, if it was a community project it might be viable but that's bound to fall apart
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>>165931564
W&B
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>>165933583
Romansh are the niggers in Switzerland. Roma are gypsies that make up about 10% of Romania and Romanians are Romanians. A slav/Italian/German/Hungarian/Roma mongrel race.
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>>165933737
>I've been touching up a bunch of stuff in NWO 1.07 and there's a LOT of work put into it
What have you been adding/changing lad?
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>>165933186
that'd be blobbing
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>>165933737
Can you transfer Divergences of Darkness from PDM to HPM?
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>>165933786
ebin conquest through semen events :-DDDDD
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>>165933737
When your Russian Liberation minimod will be finished?
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>Playing as a Russian duke
>Decide to expand my lands and DoW another duke next to me
>We're both tribal under our King so I make sure he doesn't have enough money to get mercenaries, and not enough prestige to get those huge stacks tribes get
>He has an army of 1.1K, and I have an army of 2.3K
>2 months into the war he spawns another 2.5K stack
>OK sure I guess I'll hire some mercenaries to deal with them
>Next month another 2.5K stack
>And then another one the month after

OK /gsg/, does that AI actually cheat?
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>>165933737
We could steal a lot of stuff from NWO, but yeah, despite a lot of being shit he/they've really put in a lot of work on the mod.

With a crew of 3-4 people you could probably have a playable beta version out in two or three weeks. The trick is to just structure the workload so it doesn't seem so overwhelming - just do the census work and party data for 1-2 countries a day per person and it won't take THAT long to finish.

>>165933910
Check his prestige before/during the war to avoid getting memestacked
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>>165933767
Roma indians who came all the way to europe, it's retarded to merge them with romansh and romanians.
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>>165934006
I did, he had like 100 prestige before the war.
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>>165933786
Just adding parties, flags, changed some events and decisions, mostly for nationalists which are utterly incomplete

>>165933826
I plan on taking a crack at it at some point

>>165933868
uwu

>>165933905
neber eber to be h
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>>165933868
Thats how you conquest properly.
Kill off all the males and women will happily hop on any male dick they can find.
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>>165932905
Don't worry. I'm working on it.
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What the fuck do I do when starting a new game of Darkest Hour.

Playing as UK and this is my first Grand Strategy. I have no idea what's happening.
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>>165934062
>Jewess
>being sold as a slave
I find that unlikely since they are a small minority in the first place. Nigress would be more logical.
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>>165934070
maybe in 500 bc
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>>165934302
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_children

>implying German women arent jumping on muslim cocks right now
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>>165934062
>that event description
muh dick

please upload it and keep posting everytime you make significant updates to it
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>>165934371
Maybe on your fetish sites, lad. In the real world woman are stocking up on means to defend themselves from them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3420864/More-Germans-arming-wake-Cologne-sex-attacks-gun-sales-threefold-areas.html
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t. Simsulla
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>>165934750
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>>165934693
>real world
>implying they wont re-elect Merkel
https://www.rt.com/news/349142-sweden-wristband-sexual-assault/
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>>165934750
>jingoism
>implying modern populists are jingoist post iraq
hmm
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>>165933070
A-anyone?
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Hitlermod just fucking when?
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>>165934750
>NPD are just nationalists
kek
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>>165934951
Fatherland mod for Darkest Hour?
Also WiF gives shitton of flavor to Germany.
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>>165934890
Again, only if you're blind to the modern world, Brexit, Trump, FN, AfD, the people are turning.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/04/mecklenburg-vorpommern-german-anti-immigrant-party-strong-regional-election-exit-polls-merkel
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>>165934750
Are you >>165934062 anon? If so, are you modding 1.12 or 1.07, what has more events, wars etc and is overall more fun to play for me to mod?
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>>165935075
AfD will never beat Merkel at elections though, who will ever form coalition with them.
Also you cannot kick them out anymore since "m-muh ww2"
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>>165935096
>more events
1.12
>wars
1.12
>overall more fun
The only thing 1.07 has over the other versions is the better looking map and non-retarded region system
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>>165934062
>>165933737
Is this stuff going into NWO please say yes
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>>165934970
In the game don't all the immigrants vote Nationalist? So every immigrant would vote NDP?
simsulla YES
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>>165935165
>>165935075
Not to mention with the government ban on "fake news" realistically meaning anything that criticizes the Merkel administration or immigrants AfD's popularity is about to take a huge hit since anything positive written about them will be shut down.
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>>165935075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Mg6Gfh9Co
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>>165935045
>no border to the Urals, Belgium existing mod for Space Elevater simulator 1995
No thanks, I'll wait for Hitlermod.
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ndp is the real based party
afd is shit
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>>165935165
Literally just shown you a model scale example of a previously pro-Merkel community turning to AfD but whatever.
>politicians can't make laws
Really makes me think, me laddy mate.
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Please stop talking shit about my mod, also who is this "Hitl*rmod" guy?
t. Simsulla
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Started CK2 but fuck I can't play with anyone other than Jimena kings in high middle ages because they are all related and heir to each other and it is full of intrugie.

Any recs for that guy similar to it? I like intrugie more than warfare.
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Welp, fucking with province history ends up in crashes when you actually try to get into the game. I'll go full lazy and go and change events and decisions, basically remove the Soviet Union and United Kingdom tags, revert them back to regular RUS and ENG.
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>>165935297
>in a speech in a beer hall
This was on purpose right
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>>165935291
Currently both sides are clambering to claim "fake news" belongs to them, because it's such a powerful term, being able to instantaneously shut down whatever anyone says as "fake news", it's positively Soviet.
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>>165935586
Arent beer halls to Germans what are diners to Americans
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>>165935096
Yes those are me
I'm doing 1.07 because the regions in 1.12 really trigger my autism
I don't actually know what's in 1.12 besides that, I think the nuke events are.

>>165935263
Based MacArthur lad already put the events in his NWO mod

>>165935281
>In the game don't all the immigrants vote Nationalist?
Literally what the fuck did Simsulla mean by this

>>165935383
desu
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>>165935617
The difference is that one side is in power and it already dictated what counts as fake news under German law. Anything "libelous" or "hate speech" is fake news to them which means anything critical of Merkel administration and anything critical of the immigration policy. Effectively, this means that anything the AfD puts out is "fake news".
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>>165935661
>what the fuck did Simsulla mean by this
They do vote nationalist IRL though.
Caliphate.
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>>165935652
Still sounds on purpose though
And who the fuck makes speeches in a diner?

>>165935617
The concept of "Fake News" is pretty stupid to be honest, I mean with some exceptions any instance of actually fake news can be ferreted out by people who care to look.

>>165935281
>immigrants vote nationalist
>immigrants
>who would by the ethno-cultural definition of nation-state be outsiders
>vote nationalist
REALLY makes me think.
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>>165935661
>>In the game don't all the immigrants vote Nationalist?
>Literally what the fuck did Simsulla mean by this
QUINTESSENTIALLY
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>>165935772
That's represented by the Islamist parties in the mod
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>>165935580
Use Notepad++ to replace them all at once.
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>>165935772
>a religious theocracy has anything to do with nationalism
How retarded can one anon be?
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>>165935661
What are you adding then lad, some specifics?
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>>165935921
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>>165935970
Can that work on multiple files?
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>>165935915
Can you tell me what the actual fuck the Yinyang symbol and the Animist symbol are meant to represent?
>confucian is a religion meme

>>165935661
>Based MacArthur lad already put the events in his NWO mod
Where is it
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>>165935661
can you add the ability to control the borders more easily as populist?
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>>165936065
>Islam
>not Arab inferiority complex personified in faith
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>>165936190
select all files
right click
open with notepad++
ctrl + f
move to 'replace' tab
type whatever you want replace in the "find what" box
type whatever you want to replace it with in the "replace with" box
click "replace in all opened documents"
???
profit!
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>>165936352
Are you suggesting I do this with events or with provinces?
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>>165936190
Yes. Literally takes 5 seconds to do that.
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>>165936416
>>165936323
t. people who actually never saw fake news aka propaganda or that ignore it as long as it helps their "ideology"
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>>165936416
Doesnt FOX do it too?
Really sad they do it less compared to them nowadays.
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>>165936412
If you want to replace the new/old England/Soviet tag you need to do that with ALL instances so you do it literally everywhere, localisation, history, provinces, event, decisions, etc
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>>165935661
as long as he didn't change province IDs around you can just drop the 1.07 regions.txt into 1.12
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>>165936220
How so? If you get enough populists in the upper house you can roll back immigration reform to closed borders
>>165936081
Flags, nationalist parties (currently everyone uses the generic "Nationalist Party" which has very liberal policies), adding nationalists to decisions like the natalism one, changing the culture colors so they're actually distinguishable, getting rid of "white French" and shit like that
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>>165936770
What is that blue shit on Königsberg
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Rly maeks u thonk
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>>165936863
Ossetians
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>>165937174
Ewwwwww
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>>165933070
Ill play war in the east but I don't have West. Somewhat new to Grgsby Games as well
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>>165932791

>And fucking Scotland won a crusade and won half of the Iberian peninsula. Is this supposed to happen?

yes

last game I played the crusade for Andalusia was won by fucking Norway and the game before that it was Venice, which was pretty cool since you rarely see big merchant republics unless you're setting them up yourself
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>>165937240
I don't have WitE. Ships in the night and all that lot. Sorry laddo
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>>165936323
This whole Fake News shit being thrown from both sides is going to fuck everything up. I just wonder if I should learn Russian or Chinese to be prepared to a post-American lead world.
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>>165937261
Anthropogenic climate change being a hoax.* Reminder that we've been coming out of the little ice age for a while now and we're still nowhere near as warm as it was when the Roman empire was first kicking about.
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>>165937261
Global warming is a terrible name for it.
Climate change is more appropriate because dumb people cannot comprehend how "warming" equals eerily cold winters.
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What would roman imperator do?
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Is HPM noticeably more difficult than vanilla, or just different?
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>>165937528
A bit more difficult since he corrects a lot of pop/literacy data and closes a few exploits.
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>>165937374
>Mandarin
Russians wont hate you for being white piggu at least. If you can do stupid slav shit with them they wont mind you at all.
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>>165936770
>getting rid of "white French" and shit like that
Why? Certain African countries like Togo, Ivory Coast and Cameroon are literally getting ethnic conflicts all the time because the government wants them to speak French, their national culture would definitely just be "Black French". They're not tied to a tribe or an actual national state, like Ghana, Botswana, Somalia and so on are. And even then, Ghana is actually closer to "Black Anglo" than their traditional Akan roots nowadays.
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>>165937525
>+1 tolerance to true faith
Thats a big bonus.
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Making a WWI start date mod to go with HPM - what is a good resource i can use for historical pops, army sizes, and tech? Any suggestions or requests for the mod?
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>>165937765
>Ivory coast culture is not african, it's french, because they speak french

So all the mexicans that learn english become anglo-mexican?
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>>165937843
20 volumes of the Encyclopaedia Brittanica
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>>165937219
>not liking based Alans

>>165937765
I'm certainly keeping Black French and Black Anglo and all that, those definitely serve an important purpose. I just mean getting rid of utterly redundant cultures like White French, because there's already normal French which is the same thing.
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>>165937878
We call them Tejanos down here, but yeah essentially.
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>>165937448
dumb people were a mistake
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>>165938121
Language isn't the same thing as culture, retard
Just because I speak english that doesn't make me american or british
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>playing tall
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>>165931512
This infograph would score a 1/10 anywhere anyday.

Far too much information, far too little visual representation.

All the pictures are a coloured map of Europe from which you can glean absolutely nothing and all the text is an absolute clusterfuck of bad English TL;DR.

Whoever made it is either not old enough to have graduated from highschool, or dropped out of highschool before finishing, because making a proper infograph is pretty basic stuff in a 1st world education.

If this is how you would try to sell a product, it would crash and burn Nolan style.

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>165937219
literally unironically aryan unlike g*rmans
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>>165938340
I'm not going to bite the political side of this but I'm not American so...

>>165937219
Those guys are literal, actual 'white people'.
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>>165938165
If all people were born intelligent we wouldnt be here to begin with.
>no industrial revolution because no useful idiots for cheap factories
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>>165938301
>Far too much information, far too little visual representation.
>short attention span
>needs pictures to be interested
>exactly like a child
I'd say it's doing its job pretty well, we (and you) already know you don't belong here.
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>>165937878
No because the cosmethic states the New World has are nearly 500 years old, while the ones Africa has are far younger than that. Of course they're not "French", but how else would you explain an Ivory Coastian nationalist? Of couse there should be specific African cultures (I fully support a Ghanian culture, for instance) but Ivory Coast is a mess, the definition of a cosmethic state, and the government tries to unite them all forcefully via the French language.
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>>165938217
I never said language is the same thing as culture
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>>165938101
>>165938347
>>165938447
Fuck off Oss*ti*n shills!
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>>165938301
>Far too much information
Literally what the fuck did you mean by this
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>>165938101
ah I see, that makes sense.
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To the two other guys who are modding NWO, on a scale of 'I'll spend one night brainstorming and then lose interest' to 'fuck that shit', how interested are you in making a similiar mod from scratch?
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>>165938468
You sort them out by indigenous native languages. Thats what they do nowadays anyway.
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>>165938468
>but how else would you explain an Ivory Coastian nationalist?
So a black french is an ivory coast nationalist? That's even worse.
Just call them by their ethnic name or linguist group and that's done, you represent their culture better than calling them "french".

>>165938471
Then why you think "black french" is a valid culture for africa? Culturally they are completely separated from the french.
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>>165938676
I don't think that. I didn't make that post.
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>>165938301
>Visual Representation
Of what though? There's nothing to graph, there's nothing to really show in visual form. The screenshots are merely to show what the game looks like while being played.
tl;dr >>>/america/
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>meanwhile in Africa
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>>165938810
Never fails to crack me up
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>>165938536
t. davit shalikashvili
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It's 1853 and I'm playing Somaliland how do I westernise before the scramble for Africa? I've only got 1 reform(land reform) atm, 4.1% literacy and 4.01 rps
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>>165938626
But Ivory Coast doesn't consider official any of its native languages. They consider French to be the official language and nothing else, that's the main root to the history of civil wars they've been getting for decades.
>>165938676
But what would that culture be called?
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>>165939043
>he didnt go for universities first
restart and try again.
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>>165939043
>land reform
Restart and go for foreign universities desu
Why are you playing as Somaliland anyway, they have no pops to do anything.
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>>165939058
>But what would that culture be called?
Whatever the ethnic name for the people is. You don't need to call it "senegalese" but you could.
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>>165939058
http://www.axl.cefan.ulaval.ca/afrique/cotiv.htm
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>>165938101
Shouldn't English just be White Anglo then? Also are you adding some dismantle nation CB's?
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>>165939141
But basic education costs less and does the same
>>165939175
Because I have autism and can't stand playing nations that are gps or sps
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>make a culture for each African national state
>those that are cosmethic states get less than 5% of their pops to be from their own culture
>those that aren't cosmethic states get a majority rule with their own culture
>finish the population makeup with tribal ethnicities
Problem solved.
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>>165939058
>But Ivory Coast doesn't consider official any of its native languages.
So?
We are talking about culture not language.
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>MMXVII AD
>playing paracucks gaem
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So after pulling an all nighter, I got everyone unified for the mod. Normally we were going to just scoop up our vassals after a kind anon informed me that would happen to our blobs, but then it turns out that everyone but the HRE broke up on conversion, so I worked for unification for fairness. We got one of our other friends to join in (he was originally going to be in for CK2 but it turned out Tianxia had no converter support, so he was bummed at no Tang) as Ming. We're not quite sure what's up with that lone Roman province in Russia but our Romaboo agreed to let Russia have it.

Normally I'd be a bit leery of the Roman Empire and HRE as power got lost in translation (most everyone could fight most everyone in CK2, only our Rusaboo was seriously behind, but EU4 they dwarf everyone but the Ming for some reason) but those two (and specifically those two, I noticed) tend to war with each other over stupid shit. The last war of our CK2 game was started by our Wehraboo over Jeanne d'Arc (who showed up for the HRE/Vassal France during a GHW for France by Norse Britain). She is currently the Empress of Rome and our Romaboo managed to remove her celibate trait somehow because she was the mother of 5 kids when the game ended. So while we're colonizing I expect those two to be fighting over fucking nothing.

Anyway, wish us luck for when we play later tonight and I'll let you know if anything interesting happens.
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>>165939376
You really underestimate the part languages spoken have on cultures in cosmethic states.
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>>165938795
It isn't an infograph, furthermore despite all that text, not a whole lot is being said. Someone who is not an ESLfag could convey the same information in easily 1/4 of the amount of text.

It was basically made by a highschooler who looked at it and thought to himself "wow, look at all that text, it looks really cool and informative" without a thought for the reader.

>>165938460
You are under 18 and need to leave.
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>>165939568
South Americans are living proof common language means jack shit when trying to get along.
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>>165939287
>Shouldn't English just be White Anglo then?
I'm certainly considering making them White Anglo, yeah
But as it stands White Anglo mostly represents new world Anglophone people, ie; Americans and Canadians
I think Canadians would be much more likely to accepted American rule (as accepted pops) than Englishmen would. It might be a cultural difference worth representing in the mod.
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>>165939626
>It isn't an infograph
That is correct, it isn't an infograph.

>not a whole lot is being said
Perhaps because there isn't a whole lot of text.

>someone who is not an ESLfag
Most of the text was lifted more or less straight from the original infopicture I copied, and R&I is using an old version of the picture anyway due to his autism demanding he take out games he personally thinks don't belong.

>in easily 1/4 the amount of text
Do it.
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>>165939771
Why dont you keep Americans Yankees and partially Dixie in south?
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>>165939626
Look lad we get it, you are an american teenager with a short attention span. These games aren't for you.
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>>165939651
Americans are living proof common language means jack shit when trying to get along
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>>165939287
>>165939771
>Also are you adding some dismantle nation CB's?
I don't see any reason why not, so sure
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>>165939651
>>165939848
Not really, since they all assimilated and speak the same language nowadays.
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>>165939568
And you are overestimating the impact language has on these states. People still speak their local dialects and their culture wasn't that affected by colonization to call them french.
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>>165939826
>Do it.
Sure, I'll post a concise one somewhere tonight.

>>165939836
You are under 18 and need to leave.
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>>165940037
>Sure, I'll post a concise one somewhere tonight.
If you actually manage it. Make sure it's actually 1/4 the text and conveys all the same information.
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Is 4chan really shit for eveyrone else or just me
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>>165940037
Look lad we get it, you are an american teenager with a short attention span. These games aren't for you.
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>>165940037
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>>165939831
It's definitely worth consideration but I think having new world Anglophones be one culture does a good job of representing the modern world
Southern culture used to entail an entirely different way of life, economic system, manners, food, et cetera
By the period of NWO, the differences are much less pronounced
But, there certainly is an argument that can be made that Dixie was still different enough to warrant a separate culture (Jim Crow and all that)
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>Finally manage to convert my game
>Alba, an empire that lords over British isles where only Irish culture exists, becomes Scotland
>But I can just become the United Kingdom so fine then
>Look at Indonesia
>All the cultures I cheat-converted in EU4 have reverted to their original culture that the Indonesian nations settled
>Same goes for a lot of native american cultures

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>165940291
Lmao get fucked kiddo
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>>165940103
Will do.
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>>165939563
>fighting a war over a shitty peasant girl
I'll bet money those two retards are going to fight over who colonizes the NA east coast. Also I'm like 99% positive you can't legally remove Jeanne's celibacy trait so your Romaboo friend might be hacking.
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>>165940483

t. Thinks non-western AI colonizing was a good idea
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>>165939560
>Refugees welcome
>Closed borders
>Nothing in between
wew
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBVDdr3wqm4

Oooooh boy. Rev those nigger wars up.
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>>165940037
>>165940103
>>165940503
Oh and, since R&I is using the old version, I'll give you the new version for reference - people objected to the MotE version but I don't actually have the DW version in a gimp file anymore so this is just saved off older threads.
Do consider that I'm not really dissing you - if you actually make a better version I've nothing against using it.
If you do make a better version though I'd like it if you put up the GIMP, PS, etc. file onto a MEGA so it can be updated more easily.
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>>165940291
manually change the pops
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>>165940675
>literally who fights literally what
The last relevant war in Africa was the South African border war.
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>>165940540
>Also I'm like 99% positive you can't legally remove Jeanne's celibacy trait so your Romaboo friend might be hacking.
You can. One of Joan's events (where she visits you at night or something) has an option to try and fuck her if you have the cynical and lustful traits. There's even an event for her if she gives birth from it.
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>>165941024
Now that you mention it i do have good knowledge of the world map and i personally cannot name half the nations in Africa.

How about you fellow anons?
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Gonna be home soon then Victoria 1 AAR is a go.
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>>165941209
China, Korea, and France have pretty notable "anime" industries.
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>>165941267
ladybug is not anime friend
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>>165941343
Isnt ladybug that catboi shota French thingie?
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>>165941343
Anime in the strict sense can only come from Japan so that picture is pretty circular.
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>>165941209
I can name 95% of them but I have trouble remembering what has changed their name recently and which South African dot is Lesotho and which is Swaziland
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>>165941209
I can name a good chunk of them but only place a few, the west coast is terrible.
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>>165941209
https://www.sporcle.com/games/g/africa

give it a go
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>>165940958
You've never edited a pops file before have you
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>>165941209
Half the nations in Africa literally have no right to exist, and I mean that in a non-meme sense because they are literally invented nations with arbitrary boundaries and very little if any historical basis.
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>>165941209
>not knowing all countries outside the Caribbean and the Pacific
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>>165938810
>continentals in charge of propaganda
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>>165942257
HOLY SHIT LINKUUUU
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>You've never edited a pops file before have you
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>>165938453
>he thinks he's smart
>he thinks feudalism was preferable to industrialisation
>he thinks industrialisation didn't massively increase life expectancy and avaliability of goods
*tips death of preventable diseases not being cured because there are no mass produced pharmaceuticals*
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>>165942257
>Normies will think this is a fascist move
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>>165942257
Is this really a good idea to show everyone your latest tech?
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>>165940843
I will start with the text. I'll post it here for feedback before adding it into a gimp/PS file.

I am considering the following to be done for every game:

Title
Europe Universalis III

Release
2007

Developper
Paradox

Publisher
Paradox

Era
Renaissance to early modern (1399-1821)

Complexity level
Entry level

Gameplay
Play as any country starting at any date. Emphasis on trade and politics.

DLC/Expansions
Yes, 4 expansions are available

Important:
EU III Chronicles is the complete collection, EU III Complete is not.

It would allow for easy addition of new games, while also making it easier to compare at a glance. Obviously the formatting will be different, but can't really do that here.
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>>165942483
Does it really have to be latest tech?
Just do a parade with standard stuff and get a fancy plane or two.
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>>165941894
I drew a blank on Sierra Leone and Uganda and couldn't remember the other Guinea's name. Also didn't realize the other islands to the East and Cape Verde counted.
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>>165942483
It's never really the "latest" tech, just the latest that the public already knows about
"New" in military hardware terms means "has been in development for 20+ years and everyone already knows almost everything about it"
Anything they actually want to keep under wraps of course won't be in a parade
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>>165940586
Sincerely, trough history when it comes to refugees (not immigrants) it is basically that as there is always little time and too much pressure to make any other decision.
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>>165943074
>meanwhile in latest tech land
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>>165931512
ANYONE in here having experience with 'Alea Jacta Est'?

I'm in dire need of some grand strategy of the ancient era, and Rome 2: TW was such a disaster I've given up completely on CA games.
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>>165942257
Nice, finally something good from Mr.Trump.
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>>165942515
That's not even an infopic then. That's merely a list with checkboxes.
Now I don't mind this by itself, but there's a few points
1. This is actually going to take up more space because normal text doesn't require line breaks. It'll also make formatting a lot stranger, since this sort of bulletpoint format is much more suited to individual pictures or graphics for individual games than a selection of 'major' games.
2. This will severely clash with the misc., FAQ, miscellaneous, and user mod sections unless those are also put into similarly concise versions - which may be impossible or undesireable due to space concerns.
3. It doesn't highlight some of the key differences between 3 and 4.
4. The actual character count is roughly half that of the original text. Nitpicking.

>>165942712
I mean what's the point of it in that case?
Further, considering that Trump has already said he may not aid NATO and is pulling out of many international multilateral agreements, the parade could have negative effects on an international relations level (it'd be a lot better if he didn't announce the intention to pull out of a lot of international agreements and be more reassuring than perhaps threatening). Also, this gives fodder to the Chinese to call the US hypocritical, since the United States was very angry or put up that front in response the Chinese military parade in 2015.

>>165943202
I dunno your point
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>>165941209
Drew a map of Africa without looking at any maps. How'd I do, lads?
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>>165943365
About the Chinese parade?
Well the part where they parade with obsolete tech.
>>165943245
Ceasar 3?
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>>165942448
Okay, DC is nice, but New York? Last time the dudes had fighter jets around was during 9/11, and I don't know how the public will react. Better make a naval show there.
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>>165943462
it's ok i guess
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>>165943512
>About the Chinese parade?
Oh is that what you mean?
I mean, they did show the anti-ship cruise missiles that to my knowledge, the United States does not have. Of course they might be hiding it.
And I mean, the parade happened in late 2015. 2012 or 2013 tech isn't really obselete, just not cutting edge.
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>>165943462
I mean, forgetting Mali is a bit bad, but you did well lad.
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>>165943523
Naval show sounds nice.
Also why not designate random cities every year for tourism boost?

4th of July military parade in that and that city?
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>>165943651
>anti-ship cruise missiles that were never used IRL
http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/scud_info/scud_info_refs/n41en141/Patriot.html

What could possibly go wrong?
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>africamod will probably NEVER be released
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>>165943723
It'd probably upset some people both inside the country and more importantly outside the country.
A 4th July parade might be nice but it'd also make the whole in support of peace and freedom thing ring kind of hollow.
Most important part really is what the benefits would be. If you designate cities you want to grow economically to recieve it it might be a good idea, but would it actually recoup the cost of setting all it up, the logistics of supporting tourists, etc. and can you control the nationalism that this will drum up? Nationalism has a way of growing into militancy if not directed correctly, and if directed correctly isn't something you can really back down on - see Senkaku, where the retards at Politburo have succeeded in making folks so angry about the whole affair they literally can't use it as a chip in negotiations with Japan anymore, the island nobody even knew existed is now somehow just below Taiwan tier now.

>>165944029
Patriot is not an anti-ship cruise missile, and this isn't wanking, everyone recognizes the ASCM as an actual threat, even your own military.
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>>165943365
Bulletpoints give just enough information for a person to decide whether or not to follow up on it. Gameplay features / signature features or so will be used to highlight the key elements (and differences) of the games. We could post the patchlog of every game to detail every minute difference, but that isn't what the OP pic should be about.

More space or not isn't the issue. Everybody sees the massive McDonalds billboard advertising their newest burger, nobody sees the A4 leaflet filled with text handed out by political activists.

The misc. FAQ and mod section will indeed require a different approach.
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>>165944331
Well then you make countermeasures against it and in the end its blind leading the blind since you basically model stuff off your tech.
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>>165944407
>More space or not isn't the issue.
It actually is an issue, I get where you're coming from but the current picture is already so big I literally cannot post the PNG anymore even at max compression. Make it significantly bigger or with significantly better pictures, and you'll pass the line even with a 85 quality JPG.

>everybody sees, nobody sees
We're not trying to advertise and grab attention, in that case a waifu picture or something like this would grab far more than any infopic since thumbnails are small. We're handing out information to people who are presumed to be already interested. I mean in the first place you need to open the thread.
The target audience is already in the room. The McDonald's billboard isn't meant to communicate information - it's meant to attract your attention. The activist sheet doesn't necessarily need to attract attention - it's meant to give you an overview of the information they think you need to know, with abbreviated depth. When you go into McDonalds you don't need to see giant billboards - you'd rather see pictures of their entire menu. When you sit down in a theatre, you don't need to see giant billboards and ads - you'd rather have a pamphlet.

>that isn't what the OP pic should be about
The point of the OP pic is to introduce the games in brief and show examples of the game screen, to give suggestions to newfags in the form of the FAQ and the mods section, and to order as a list the games which might be posted here.

>>165944693
What part are you responding to
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It's happening lads. Vicky 3 is here.
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>>165945018
>>165944407
DESU lads I think the only reason anyone gives a shit about the infopic is because you can instantly tell which thread /gsg/ is in the catalog
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What's Japan like in Kaiserreich (DH)? Any fun things to do? It kind of sounds like it starts as a complete hegemon in the Pacific and as far as I know it lacks fun IDEOLOGY stuff to do
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>>165945132
Pretty much this
I'd rather we tell newfags to read the thing but that's like telling people to read the fucking OP / pastebin in other threads
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>>165945018
Holy shit that is one lewd statue ...
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>>165944161
What is this shit?
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>>165945193
>>165945132
Lads, you can just search it, you know.
Spam this in the URL bar
>>>/vg/gsg
Then the next time you type "gsg" in there this will automatically show up and you don't have to look for the thread.
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Where should I move my capitol to as Russia in eu4 mp? Nizhny novgorod? Or should I go further east? I'm playing vs france and brandenburg
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>>165945331
It can be faster to just look for the image and not everyone likes to search
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>>165945386
Novosibirsk
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>>165944407
>Everybody sees the massive McDonalds billboard advertising their newest burge
We aren't advertising these games. We are providing some helpful information. if it keeps the short attention kids like you away, it's even better.
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What should be done first as Denmark? Form Scandinavia or grab the german coastline? I´m a bit afraid of the HRE just starting out as Denmark to be honest.
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>>165945197
>meanwhile in Korea
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>>165945386
Vladivostok, dominate Asia and the Pacific seaboard of the Americas
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So the Ottomans have been slowly draining themselves of manpower by stationing these stacks here for about 10 years now, what gives?
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>>165945769
quality AI
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>>165945669
>Not changing every city's name
>CSA isn't independent
6.5/10
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>>165945769
Ethiopians stole their horses
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>>165945018
Well here is a concept for the segment for Victoria II, and it takes up less room. The pictures will become the bottleneck to reducing the size.

Original: 114 words
Revised: 36
Not counting bulletheads: 29
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>>165946283
That looks worse and it's way less informative. Congratulations on making something for people like you who are interested in something but aren't interested in reading a few lines on it.
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>>165946283
Shit/10
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>>165945403
>not everyone likes to search
Why? It's not like I'm asking you to download and run Virus.exe.

>>165945281
>he doesn't know Eugene Terre'Blanche
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>165946283
that font is horrible
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>>165946283
I concur with the others, I preferred the other model.
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>>165946283
I mean it's pretty much the same isn't it? Takes up the same amount of space even if we change the font to be less ridiculous looking, doesn't even say the names of the actual expansions, etc.
I mean think about it, is it even slower to read 100 words than to read 40?
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>>165946283
Terrible font and doesn't give any information that might interest the viewer.

>"Any country, starting any date"

Wow what a fantastic description of gameplay, not like literally all other paradox games don't have this.
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>>165946582
Are you actually arguing about how fast he reads when he complains the OP doesn't have pictures and too much text?
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where's the square flag frame mod?
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>>165945584
Don't turn it into a game of semantics, advertising is providing information.

People already here don't need the info in the OPpic (it is arguably far too little info for a gsg "veteran" anyway), for people trying to get into the genre it is just a massive slab of text. It doesn't do anything for one group or the other as it stands.

When somebody talks about a game you are unfamiliar with, the first things you want to know are; What genre is it? What are the key defining gameplay features? When was it released? Who made it?

For GSG specifically you would want to know the era it is set in and the scope/playable countries, along with its focus (military, political, economical, exploration etc.)
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>>165946685
In AFPG's pastebin, I believe.
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>>165946283
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>>165946661
bah

>>165946773
>Don't turn it into a game of semantics, advertising is providing information.
No this is completely wrong
Advertising doesn't need to provide information. Advertising is about attracting ATTENTION and making your remember. Thus, that famous Subway billboard:
(in massive fucking letters) SEX
(in small text) now that we have you attention, eat at subway.
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>>165946773
>Don't turn it into a game of semantics
It isn't. You think the infopic should sell these games like an ad. This isn't the purpose of it.

>advertising is providing information.
No, advertising is selling something. Most of the times is not providing information.

> for people trying to get into the genre it is just a massive slab of text
If they can't read 5 lines or think that's a massive slab of text, they won't get into these games and we don't want them here.
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Are you uh, a real Prussian?
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Eh, nein.
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>>165945769
You tag switched
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>>165934062
Did you get banned or something? all the posts about your fetish blob mod have been removed from old threads and their pictures are missing in the archive

post culture map mode
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>>165943245
TW: Rome
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>>165946773
>advertising is providing information
Got outcompeted in advertising detected
Ads don't need to provide shit for information.
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>>165946428
>way less informative
It is literally the same info without the fluff.

Without the retarded font I would prefer it like that, if and only if it was done uniformly like that for all the games.

It isn't so much reading spead that makes the current OPpic garbage, it is its lack of uniformity. One game has text about the gameplay features, another game has text about the author's opinion on the game. Just messy. Also some are repetetive as fuck. Look at HoI3, the entire text can be summed up with "complex WW2 wargame", lots of words without telling me much at all. At that point just put the GSG popular opinion in the pic, would be far more usefull. "HoI4 is a shitty tablet port" "Darkest Hour is the best in the HoI series" "Don't get EUII I now EUIV is out" etc.
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>>165946981
Dont you mean Russian?
>mfw people dont even know who Prussians were anymore
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>>165946283
>>165946773
Well I mean it looks like most people don't like it and have their own reasons.
I'd like an apology for getting called a fucking senior high school dropout out of nowhere now, thank you.
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>>165945459
Why there? Why not Tomsk?

>>165945669
Okay, but why exactly there?
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>>165947046
Have you ever rused France into declaring war on you? Anchlussed Austria?
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>>165947279
Not even him, but you are retarded, you either do not understand the purpose of advertising, or fail to grasp the definition of the word information.

If an advert hasn't informed me about whatever it is they are trying to sell me or make me do, then it has failed horribly.

>inb4 subliminal advertising
Ya, you're a retard
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>>165947124
That's really strange, I haven't been banned or anything

>>165947419
>Okay, but why exactly there?
The name Vladivostok means 'ruler of the East'
also it's coastal
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>>165947393
Damn son. Is that NSFW and do you have source on it?
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>>165947483
>If an advert hasn't informed me about whatever it is they are trying to sell me or make me do, then it has failed horribly.
Advertising needs to tell you what it is they want you to buy but more importantly catch your eye. The difference is the latter bit, a very fast summary that's catchy-looking.
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>>165947491
What country are you focused on NWO? Russia?
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Have you ever caught a Frenchman retreating?
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>>165947541
I dunno and no.
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>>165947608
I haven't touched Russia as of yet, I'm mostly touching up the political events to include the nationalist ideology (I have no idea why simsulla included a new ideology if it was going to be completely barebones and nonsensical)

I also added a decision to reclaim elsass lothringen as a populist/nationalist Germany
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>>165946887
>It isn't. You think the infopic should sell these games like an ad. This isn't the purpose of it.
Wrong, I think they should be concise and to the point.

>No, advertising is selling something. Most of the times is not providing information.
Wrong again, selling something is selling something. Advertising is not selling something, companies have gone bankrupt on advertising without selling squat to cover it.

>If they can't read 5 lines or think that's a massive slab of text, they won't get into these games and we don't want them here.
Their ability to read more than 5 lines is beside the point. You surely can read the entire patchlog of a game, but I doubt you have ever done it or feel the desire to start doing so.

Infopics are there to provide info, not to be an exercise in fellating to text.
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>>165947491
Okay, but I'm talking mostly for strategic purposes, seeing as this is MP. I don want to expend into asia later on, but give me some more reasons to move my capitol exactly there.
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>>165947419
It's the third largest city in Russia and the biggest in Siberia
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>>165946885
>No this is completely wrong
>Advertising doesn't need to provide information. Advertising is about attracting ATTENTION and making your remember. Thus, that famous Subway billboard:
>(in massive fucking letters) SEX
>(in small text) now that we have you attention, eat at subway.

That's really cool and all, but that is a form of conveying information. Without the subway mention at the end the advertisement can not achieve its goal.
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>>165947627
Do you know why French tanks had a rearview mirror?
So they can see the frontline too
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>Finally get to see a colony declare independence and succeed in EU4 with the aid of the French
The next question is whether the Falklands rightful Chilean clay?
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>>165948040
>>>/reddit/
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>>165947836
Gonna do anything about the lack of wars? How would that be fixed anyway?
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>>165947836
Would you be interested in making a mod from scratch with others?
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>>165947393
I liked it (aside from the font), but am waiting for it to be completed, I am also not autistic enough to get angry over change which is literally the main argument against it, well aside from that font.
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>>165948090
Here baguette, 4 u.
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>>165947959
I get that, but see >>165947951

I'm mostly considering moving it because of strategic purposes. St. Petersburg is too exposed, and even though I got most of Lithuania, I feel they're gonna attack soon.
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Is there already an event or decision for Austrian/Germany reunification in NWO?

>>165948132
Definitely

>>165948115
>Gonna do anything about the lack of wars?
Potentially but lack of wars is fairly representative for the modern area
I think there should definitely be more conflict in Africa and such though, and if the player deviates from history and the large alliance-blocs like NATO don't have the influence they do IRL there should definitely be more potential for wars breaking out.
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>>165948226
Mon dieu...
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What would the Italians call this?
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>>165948243
>I don want to expend into asia later on
Time to end your life senpai
Also, the reason is it's fucking far away, as simple as that. Maybe you can put your capital on the Urals or something if you want defensive bonuses, but I don't know the EU4 map very well desu
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>>165948445
Orientale Italiana
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>>165948445
Africa Orientale Italiana?
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>>165947836
>I also added a decision to reclaim elsass lothringen as a populist/nationalist Germany
Speaking of that, could you remove the entirely retarded revanchist decisions, like France reclaiming the Rhine?
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>>165947598
Twist words all you like, at the end of the day if an advertisement hasn't provided me with information, it has failed. The goal of an advertisement is not to be eye-catching, the goal is to convey information. The way it achieves this goal is (usually) by being attention grabbing.

I don't see the point in changing the infopic anymore than the rest of the people in the thread, but your (and other's) understanding of advertising is simply wrong. Not even because you or the others are too stupid to understand that, but simply because so you can disagree with infopic guy for the sake of it, or in short, a severe case of autism.
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>>165948445
>No Ethiopia
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>>165947871
>Wrong, I think they should be concise and to the point.
Yours isn't all concise (certainly not the claimed 1/4 as long) and lacks the names of the expansions to further cut down on wordcount for conciseness.
The difference between 100 words and 40 words is about 10 seconds if you're a slow reader.

>Their ability to read more than 5 lines is beside the point.
It isn't because it doesn't actually make a difference. Your version is just the bulletpoint version of mine, the prose version. If I de-flower the text I can cut it down too.

>You surely can read the entire patchlog of a game, but I doubt you have ever done it
Your doubt is wrong, people post changes they object to or find pleasing from the patchlog of games every major expansion.

>or feel the desire to start doing so.
A lot of times it simply doesn't matter - nobody cares enough to read it at all, no matter how it's presented.

>Infopics are there to provide info, not to be an exercise in fellating to text.
Which is provided, and in my opinion more aesthetically.
There's the issue of consistency with the other sections too.

By the way, I'm not the person you responded to.
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>>165947871
>Wrong, I think they should be concise and to the point.
No, you think it should be an ad, with catchy images and cattering to the kind of retard who can't read less shit than the average event of these games provide.
If he can't even be bothered to read the pic, then we already know he's in the wrong place.

>Wrong again, selling something is selling something.
Advertising is convincing someone that that person needs to buy your product. The infopic doesn't have that objective.

>Their ability to read more than 5 lines is beside the point.
Nope, it is the point. If you can't be arsed to read more than that, you aren't going to enjoy it and you aren't welcome here. If you need flashy graphics, same shit.
The infopic isn't here to invite people, it isn't here to catch your eye, it's there to provide information about stuff. It does that. If it scares away people who have a short attention span, it's even better.

>Infopics are there to provide info
And this one does, it just doesn't help much with your short attention span problem.
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>>165948653
The goal isn't to convey info either, it's to convince you to buy a product or at least remember the product exists so next time you see it in a mall you think 'hey shit I've seen this before'.
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>>165948365
>I think there should definitely be more conflict in Africa and such though, and if the player deviates from history and the large alliance-blocs like NATO don't have the influence they do IRL there should definitely be more potential for wars breaking out.
Where is 'war potential' modded anyhow?
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>>165948365
>Definitely
Neat. By 'a mod' I mean NWO 2.0, /gsg/ edition.
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>>165948525
>>165948562
Seems quite generic but that will have to do.
>>165948667
Those are the plans for a civilized African satellite to be released in the 1910s, Ethiopia, just like Tunisia, Libya and the Asian/American colonies will be kept under my direct control.
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>>165948938
Not him but I'm also willing to participate.
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>>165948653
>The goal of an advertisement is not to be eye-catching, the goal is to convey information.
Wow so much information conveyed, it surely isn't about brand recognition, eye catching, making people desire something or anything like that, it's about giving information to people.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.
Fuck I don't even know how you aren't ashamed of coming somewhere and criticizing an INFOpic for having too much text and not enough flashy images.
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>>165948569
>could you remove the entirely retarded revanchist decisions
Yes
I like how almost every country has potential for some sort of irredentism so you can make them at least a regional power (even fucking Comoros), but some are retarded, like French cores on the Rhineland
The design philosophy of the mod is baffling at times, like why would there be French claims on the Rhine yet no German claims on Elsaß/Alsace?

>>165948841
I don't really know how the AI decision making works in regards to when they decide to go to war, but in NWO CBs are scarce and there are often large alliance blocs scaring the AI from declaring wars.

>>165948938
I can't imagine a /gsg/ cooperative project being anything but disastrous, but at least it will be fun, I'm certainly up for it
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>>165948451
Wait, that was supposed to say I do, not I don't, fuck, I'm too tired for this shit. Yes, I do want to dominate chinese trade.
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>>165948938
Wouldn't a /gsg/ NWO just be revised Simsulla?
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>>165949016
>>165949041
Add me on Steam if you want to talk more about it, steam ID is lametimes, I'm the guy with the drawn avatar with a MAGA hat

>>165949110
With less typos in the events
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>>165948668
>Yours isn't all concise (certainly not the claimed 1/4 as long) and lacks the names of the expansions to further cut down on wordcount for conciseness.

Wrong, from 114 down to 29, so basically the claimed 1/4.

>If I de-flower the text I can cut it down too.
Then why didn't you? What is the point of all that fluff? It is the same as the highschooler tasked with writing an essay who believes longer is better and that handing in a short but to the point essay will surely be insufficient.

>Your doubt is wrong, people post changes they object to or find pleasing from the patchlog of games every major expansion.
Which is hardly the same as sticking the entire patchlog into the OP pic.

>Which is provided, and in my opinion more aesthetically.
My point was not so much in using bulletpoints, which is merely a personal preference, but in removing all the fluff. As you said you could cut out all the crap without using bulletpoints and be left with 1/4 of the text without losing an ounce of important info on the game.
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>>165946981
Well technically, uh, nein, nein.
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>>165949154
>I'm the guy with the drawn avatar with a MAGA hat
Wew
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>>165949205
Used to be a christmas hat but a friend made me a new avatar after the election
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>>165948681
>No, you think it should be an ad, with catchy images and cattering to the kind of retard who can't read less shit than the average event of these games provide.
Wrong, head back to start.

>Advertising is convincing someone that that person needs to buy your product. The infopic doesn't have that objective.
Nor did I claim that, my point was that there is a reason people read short to the point texts with an eye catcher rather than notepad texts.
The current infopic already has eye catchers and nice pictures, the problem is merely that they all look the exact same. In fact they are exactly the sort of pictures you are complaining about, just flashy images of blobpainting without actually showing of anything about the game. It arguably draws in more of the crowd you despise, the "short attention spanners", than a picture showing of a unique element of the game (something like the OoB system in HoI3).
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>>165949573
>christmas hat in november
Was it autism?
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>>165949830
I lost the original version of the avatar so I wore it all year round :^)
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>tfw no Nazi song with Panzers firing their main guns a la 1812 overture
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>>165949040
I am not even criticizing the infopic buddy, nor do I want it changed. I don't even understand how you aren't necking yourself over your apparent illiteracy.

As for your McDonalds picture, yes, it conveys information, there is a big fucking yellow arched M on it, you recognize that INFORMATION as meaning "McDonalds" because you have seen that INFORMATION a million times before. If the M was white and had the font used by Maltesers then the information provided to you has changed, you no longer think "McDonalds" but "Malteser".

You are either one extremely dense motherfucker, or just trolling, possibly both. Alternatively you are being the typical ESL-kun.
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>>165949165
>down to 29
>excluding the bulletpoints which still exists as text and ignoring that your version lacks the names of the expansions
Nice.

>Then why didn't you? What is the point of all that fluff?
Because style counts for something, and being too dry is also a bad idea, especially when being dry doesn't even make it significantly shorter.

>It is the same as the highschooler tasked with writing an essay who believes longer is better and that handing in a short but to the point essay will surely be insufficient.
A short but to the point essay is actually insufficient almost all of the time. A longer essay is better unless it is padded. In non-formal (as in, theses, reports, etc) writing, utter dryness is not good. My way of cutting down would simply obliterate most adjectives and merge sentences for a net cutdown of MAYBE ten to fifteen words, at the cost of readability.

>Which is hardly the same as sticking the entire patchlog into the OP pic.
What is this imbecilic false equivalence? People post the changes in the thread thus proving they've actually read the patchlogs. Nobody was advocating putting the entire patchlog into the OP.

>My point was not so much in using bulletpoints, which is merely a personal preference, but in removing all the fluff.
Which is a personal preference. If you didn't use bulletpoints then you'd be left with MAYBE 30 less words at most in each one, and in places like the CK2 and EU4 where I was already strapped for room and tried merging things a bit already, you wouldn't even get that.

>be left with 1/4 of the text without losing an ounce of important info on the game
Your bulletpoints are all that is allowing you to cut down at all and actually leaves out information like the many production goods, the Scramble for Africa, Imperialism, Crises, Nationalism, and Ideology.
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>>165949643
>Wrong
>Far too much information, far too little visual representation.

>Nor did I claim that
>Everybody sees the massive McDonalds billboard advertising their newest burger,


Look lad if you can't read the text in the infopic, you won't be able to read the text in the events and you won't be able to play these games. We also don't want some teenager faggot with a short attention spam here.

You "style" looks worse and provides less info, as well as some useless shit like developer. Honestly, I'd go back to /v/ if I we were you and I'd learn what ads are for and the difference betwen wanting to inform people of something and wanting them to look at glance at info so they come here.
You are just embarrassing yourself.
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>>165948793
>hey shit I've seen this before
Ya, that's called information buddy, what school do you go to that that definition failed to be understood by you? You can only be American, there is simply no other explanation for this amount of stupid.
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>>165934046
>>165933910
slavs can spawn a 2.5k stack when in a defensive war with 200 piety.
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>>165950049
>he doesn't understand the difference between conveying information about something and brand recognition
Yep, teenager.
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>>165945652
>the emperor of mankind is fucking korean
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>>165950194
Bitchshit the very existence of the billboard as an entity is information if you're going to push it. The physical definition of information is literally 'it exists'. The infopicture exists therefore it provides 'information'. The colordepth and resolution of both are the same so they provide equivalent information.
Look I can play too.
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>>165950194
What information is conveyed? How about we just make the infopicture a black box with the titles of the games?
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>>165950463
That sounds pretty rad actually.
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>>165949643
>than a picture showing of a unique element of the game (something like the OoB system in HoI3).
Yeah except the HoI3 pictures are of the OOB system in action (hard to see I guess) and the production screen unique to HoI3...
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>>165950463
Well shit. I'd be down for that, or just the boxart or something.
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>>165950547
You know what would be rad? Making the OP so that we can actually use different pictures. I don't particularly mind the infopic but it gets dull after a while, we can just make a ghostbin or something that says all the same shit.
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>>165950693
For what purpose? To remove information altogether?
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>>165950463
Sounds good, honestly. If people can't be assed to do a little outside research then they probably shouldn't be playing grand strategy.
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>>165950054
>excluding the bulletpoints which still exists as text and ignoring that your version lacks the names of the expansions

Even with the bulletpoint heading it was cut down to 1/3. Why are the names of the expansions interesting in the infopic? Unless you want to specify that one expansion is clearly superior/inferior, or that a game is unplayable without it what is the point of listing them all? It isn't like you listed them with a short explanation of what they add to the base game, no you just listed them. If someone know expansions exist then they can find them on their own with or without a list of the 12 different CK expansions cluttering it up.

>A short but to the point essay is actually insufficient almost all of the time. A longer essay is better unless it is padded. In non-formal (as in, theses, reports, etc) writing, utter dryness is not good. My way of cutting down would simply obliterate most adjectives and merge sentences for a net cutdown of MAYBE ten to fifteen words, at the cost of readability.
Wrong.

>Which is a personal preference. If you didn't use bulletpoints then you'd be left with MAYBE 30 less words at most in each one, and in places like the CK2 and EU4 where I was already strapped for room and tried merging things a bit already, you wouldn't even get that.
2 posts back you were claiming you could write what I did in bulletpoints in prose (something I agree with). Don't backpedal now for the sake of arguing with me that you could "only cut out 30 words".

> the Scramble for Africa, Imperialism, Crises, Nationalism, and Ideology.
GSG, during industrial era, in Europe and N.Africa with a politcal/military focus. Gee I wonder what that is going to be about.
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>>165950693
>Making the OP so that we can actually use different pictures
then people would just post dumb memes and half the thread would be spent arguing over the op pic (even more so than usual)
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>>165950463
>>165950816
Not to mention it'd turn redditors off to the general. Now that we're talking about it, it sounds like a fantastic idea.

I'm throwing my hat in with the "just the titles/boxart" crowd. Get to it, autistic incest-kun.
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>>165950960
Yeah, putting just images, catching the eyes of retards like >>165950864 who are too lazy to read something while not providing any information will surely improve the thread.
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>Nearly 300 years of gameplay without a regency coucil
I'd forgotten how bad they were in EU4, shame the luck couldn't continue.
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>>165950368
Now you can look at an advert and understand that it's purpose is to convey information, not simply to be attention grabbing.

Adverts need to make sure they convey the desired information, sometimes this is as simple as "look, we exist". Sometimes they need to make adverts more specific, like the McDonald advertising their McSalad bullshit in an attempt to inform the viewer "hey look, it isn't all artery clogging shit anymore".

The advert is a facilitator for conveying the information to the target audience.
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>>165950802
>>165950876
Pastebin and Ghostbin are what every other general uses to convey info if necessary (and let's be honest newfags don't fucking read the OP or the OPpicture) and people wouldn't argue about the OP picture all the time because there wouldn't be some autistic standard about it.

>>165950960
If you're going to have nothing actually in the OP picture in terms of info, then I really do advise not having one period. It's not like people don't know what games /gsg/ talks about, even for newfags.

>>165950864
>Even with the bulletpoint heading it was cut down to 1/3
Which is not 1/4.

>Why are the names of the expansions interesting in the infopic?
Because it's relevant to tell people what the expansions are?

>It isn't like you listed them with a short explanation of what they add to the base game, no you just listed them. If someone know expansions exist then they can find them on their own with or without a list of the 12 different CK expansions cluttering up the thread.
Because knowing what they are is relevant. No information at all is needed in your argument - if they want to know anything they can go look it up themselves right?

>Wrong.
Great argument. Something that is both longer and not padded necessarily provides more information and more argument for the point you are making, since padding is defined as something that does not.

>you were claiming you could write what I did in bulletpoints in prose
I don't deny that but it wouldn't cut it to 30 words. There's a reason bulletpoints exist - they're shorter, bullets aren't sentences.

>GSG, during industrial era, in Europe and N.Africa with a politcal/military focus. Gee I wonder what that is going to be about.
Doesn't matter, it doesn't convey the same information. All of those were originally listed for people to emphasize that they're major things being simulated in the period for people interested - that they're big in the time period is obvious.
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>>165951475
>Pastebin and Ghostbin are what every other general
Then go to every other general then.
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>>165951559
Kill yourself R&I, you don't own this general
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>>165950463
Yes, why do you think that wouldn't be enough?

People already in the thread aren't reading OP pic anyway, people new to the thread have most likely recently bought a paradox game and likewise not going to read the OP pic. It is quite literally just some 14yo /gsg/ frequenter who got a hardon at seeing his pic used for every thread.

Honestly, fuck the whole "giving people info" shit, we have pastebins for that, just have a picture of historical world leaders and generals in the OP. Would be far more interesting then the same stale blabla OP that literally nobody has or ever will read.
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>>165951559
I'm just saying that you would be able to keep the info in if you actually wanted to remove the infopic. It'd also happen to kill off the autism that apparently happens once every three to five threads these days about the infopic, and might take away some incentive for people to make threads at sub fucking 700.
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>eu4
>ottomemes
>conquered a lot of shit
>rn I have 34% overextension and I'm missing 3 cores
>rebels coming up soon too
>plus my army is expensive af, - 6gp at full maintenance

What do?
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>>165951240
He has a point though, less redditors would be better for everyone.
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>>165951718
Play EU3.
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>>165951240
There are already images in the OP, stop being salty about nobody reading your TL;DR R&I.
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>>165951687
Make your own general if you aren't happy.

>>165951712
The autism only happens because of newfags who want to come here and change the thread instead of making their own thread.

>>165951720
He has no point at all, he's claiming showing pictures like /gsg/ is a catalogue for kids would improve the userbase.
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>>165948365
You busy? Haven't seen you on Steam yet
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>>165951718
>eu4

stopped reading there
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>>165951330
>9 mana regency
>bad
Still nowhere near as garbage as literally every republic in the game (aside from Dutch)
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>>165951708
>It is quite literally just some 14yo /gsg/ frequenter who got a hardon at seeing his pic used for every thread.
If you cannot recognize at this point that I'm not even strictly in favor of the infopicture's continued existence in any form, and that I don't actually make the OP, only updated the OP picture, then perhaps you genuinely need to kill yourself. On top of that, these threads haven't even been using 'my' picture'.
Are you hoping to get a hardon from seeing your own used in every thread? Is that it?

>>165951798
>mods banned a fucking anime studio employee talking about anime from /a/
I hate /qa/.

>>165951830
>The autism only happens because of newfags who want to come here and change the thread instead of making their own thread.
I changed the infopicture because it was terribly out of date, I never asked to somehow change the thread - esp. since I've been here longer than most of the people in the thread, including the faggot who makes the threads sub-700 these days if it's indeed only one person.
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>>165951475
>Because knowing what they are is relevant. No information at all is needed in your argument - if they want to know anything they can go look it up themselves right?
Well this is what I initially thought of, but I didn't think /gsg/ would be even remotely interested in a change like that (looking at the thread it looks like I was wrong). I honestly believe a pastebin for some important shit is all we need then just have some picture used merely to identify the thread. Maybe even something like "tips" for the popular games in this thread (useful ones), I dunno, just spitballing at this point.
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>>165952132
Shut up you are fake news!
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>>165952132
>If you cannot recognize at this point that I'm not even strictly in favor of the infopicture's continued existence in any form, and that I don't actually make the OP, only updated the OP picture, then perhaps you genuinely need to kill yourself. On top of that, these threads haven't even been using 'my' picture'.
>Are you hoping to get a hardon from seeing your own used in every thread? Is that it?
What are you gibbergabbering about? The fuck are you on? My own used? My own what used? Are you high lad?
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>>165952315
>derailing thread
Go away
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>>165952159
>all we need then just have some picture used merely to identify the thread
That would just be pointless then, if you're actually going to melt the infopicture down then trying to establish a standard recognition picture would lead to a whole other shitstorm - not even the current one where it's pretty much just a debate over Garygames. If you're not going to use the infopic, then don't have a standard picture since it doesn't convey anything meaningful.
As it stands though, the fact that an infopicture exists at all is already tradition, and therefore has inherent worth.

>>165952436
>my own what used?
Your own picture, are you an ESL?
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>>165952132
You are the one who created this infopic?
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What if America wasn't empty?

Is there a mod like that for EU4? Could be an interesting alt-history mod.

Adding some Steppe Nomads in the plains, city-states or merchant republics in the Caribbean, Tribals in the Amazons, etc.

With some reworked tech groups, like giving the Andeans Llama cavalry, or Reindeer cavalry in the far north, etc.

Could be cool.
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How do I prevent them from rebelling? I handed them the Kola province from Novgorod and it still didn´t go down. Scotland already gave them their support and I don´t have any allies besides my starting vassal and PU.
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>>165952641
Correct; I suppose that I'm staying up a little late to be plausible, but that's mine.

>>165952697
Are we keeping it historical or just filling them up? Sounds like some sort of alt-history?
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These crackers be done.
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>>165952697
Oh I was just creating random custom nations right now, but what I'm talking about would be a semi-historical alt-history mod. Pic not really related.

Like, filling the Americas as Eurasia is, full of nations, varied cultures/techs/religions/governments, increasing development in most areas, etc.
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>>165952697
>Tribals in the Amazons
They did nothing all the day except having sex and hunting fish because food was avaible and easily accessible during all the year, turning them genetically lazy after a few thousands of years of natural selection.

t. monkey
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Oops, this: >>165953087

was meant for you: >>165952789
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>>165953292
>>165953087
I mean you forgot your picture
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>>165952595
>As it stands though, the fact that an infopicture exists at all is already tradition, and therefore has inherent worth.
Fair enough I guess, in a sense it already functions as a picture to identify the thread by anyway.
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>>165952595
>are you an ESL?
>t. chink
What did he mean by this?
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>>165952595
>Your own picture, are you an ESL?
Wat, I don't have an own picture, I never claimed to have an own picture or even want my shit up there.
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>gsg
>373 posts
>67 posters
>90% is talking about infopic
>the 10% posting about games are promptly ignored

Why do even have an R&I shitposting message? It is clearly not being adhered to.
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Ahhh, now this is beauty.
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How does magic work in the new Elder King version? I can brew potions with an alchemist character (although it looks like some debug mode unfinished feature) but my spellbook is always empty besides dispel.
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>>165954208
take Die Schweiz and it will be perfect
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>>165954018
I presumed you to be the same person who was arguing about the infopicture and wanting to bulletpoint it, since I'm apparently a high schooler or else a high school dropout and getting called 14 sounded similar enough.

>>165953992
I might be an ESL but I feel that my English is native tier in fluency or reading comprehension if a little more clunky sounding when spoken (or written I guess), although that may or may not be simple arrogance.

>>165954189
Have you considered that the message itself invites shitposting for the first few posts at least and sometimes more?
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>>165954208
>Thigh high boots out of fashion, knee high boots the new hot shit
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>>165954318
>I presumed you to be the same person who was arguing about the infopicture and wanting to bulletpoint it, since I'm apparently a high schooler or else a high school dropout and getting called 14 sounded similar enough.
Nah, from what I understood you didn't even create the pic anyway, merely added to the existing one. To be honest even if you wanted to change it you couldn't, look at the shitstorm caused by the mere suggestion of it. my 14yo was aimed at whoever initially made the infopic.
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>>165954189
>90% is talking about infopic
the infopic is the root of all evil
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>>165951927
Not the mana, but the fact that while I'm still expected to answer all my calls to war, I can't start any myself.
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>>165954318
>Have you considered that the message itself invites shitposting for the first few posts at least and sometimes more?
I have not only considered it, I firmly believe it to be true, which is sorta what I was implying (poorly).

It almost reads as "hey guys, remember haha, don't shitpost! winkwink"
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>>165954313
Was thinking the same but the front towards France would be quite big and they will declare war on Germany which drags me into a war with them. We'll see.
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>>165954510
>Nah, from what I understood you didn't even create the pic anyway, merely added to the existing one
I mean...I did create the original infopicture, if by that you mean the one the R&I is currently using (not the real original one way back when and before R&I himself that just somehow became tradition). I made it from scratch too, so it's not added to or anything since I found the original version to have been so outdated and lossycompressed, it'd be faster and easier to just make a new one from scratch.

>even if you wanted to change it you couldn't
Bah.
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>>165954847
>not the real original one way back when and before R&I himself that just somehow became tradition
This is the one I was talking about, but then I am heavily biased against the whole R&I crowd with faux attempts at discouraging shitposting, all it does is it encourage it.
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This is the company that makes our games.

Daily reminder that we must mod them all to become realistic.
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The only people that want to change the general are redditors,newfags, and steamgroup shitters. Only smart people like R&I want to keep the general from falling into the wrong hands
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>>165955226
this is retarted
t.urk
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>>165955226
>Mr. Capiatlist
Am I missing a joke
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Sheev?
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>>165955301
t. r&i
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>>165955396
hearty kek
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>>165955396
Not yet.
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>>165954208
Thank you for posting pictures!

Please post more!

Everyone else!

Post pictures from your current games!

I want to see borders!

I wan to see grossgermaniums!

Stop arguing and insulting each other!
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Why won't my vassals vote for my nominated heir in Elective Gavelkind? Even the kid duke I'm tutoring who is my religion/culture with 100 opinion still won't. They just vote for my retard son instead of the one who is in the Varangian guard with 25 martial score. Is that why, because he's not actually at court? How long does that usually take before he comes back=
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>>165955690
It's treason then
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What do, lads? Does independent New England stay in the Entente, and also if I give it back to the USA, I could get an alliance with MacArthur. Right now, I can only support Huey.
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>>165955795
rate my groß mughaliums
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>Byzantium AI
Stop bloody blobbing into Russia and reclaim Rome
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What's the best game for an event-heavy Hundred Years' War?
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>>165956209
rated
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>itt things gayer than ancient Greece
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>>165956209
-10 points for islam
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k lads
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ebin

This mod really is a fucking mess
Absolutely nothing makes sense, especially with the politics
I've had "No voting" for five years, yet I'm still a democracy and held an election.
The only way I can see to make this mod work is to rebuild it from scratch and backport the stuff that works from NWO.
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>>165957440
Are you the Russiabro, bro?
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>>165956096
O c c u p y, also fuck Huey
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>>165957742
But does it make for better borders
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>>165957742
>fuck Huey
Huey is NOT for bullying
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>>165957440
Unless it's CIA posting you're welcome to join us in making a new mod from scratch
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ABSOLUTELY BASED
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>>165957691
>Russiabro
If by that you mean the guy who made this autistic mememod, then yes
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Which one seems more plausible for a Byzantium that survived the islamic onslaught?

http://poal.me/x9ijc4
http://poal.me/x9ijc4
http://poal.me/x9ijc4
http://poal.me/x9ijc4
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>>165958147
What have you fixed so far m8?
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>>165935806
>The concept of "Fake News" is pretty stupid to be honest
I don't get it. Fake news has always existed. It was called a hoax, or a false flag, or propaganda. Now it's just a buzzword to dismiss something.
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>>165956615
Say that to my face not online fucker and see what happens
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>>165958073
>making a new mod from scratch
Sounds good desu

>>165958296
A couple of election events, added a nationalist electorate NF, added a couple parties and flags, changed the localisation of populist and nationalist dictatorships away from "republic" and "republic of", changed all the poptype files so minorities in foreign countries aren't 100% nationalist
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>>165958147
>>165958524
If you still want to do a mod collab we can talk it over on Steam with the other guy, add me at @lametimes, drawn avatar with MAGA hat
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>>165958524
>A couple of election events, added a nationalist electorate NF, added a couple parties and flags, changed the localisation of populist and nationalist dictatorships away from "republic" and "republic of", changed all the poptype files so minorities in foreign countries aren't 100% nationalist
Planning on posting what you've got done so far?
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This fucking decision is glitched and not working for some reason, the AHE decision folder doesn't even have the LPzW 34 in it, it's all just Hungarian shit. Now I can't build tanks, FUCK.
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>>165958331
>Now it's just a buzzword to dismiss something
that's why it's stupid
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>>165934750
This is fact though, I find the work you are doing is based but too many mods are ideology peddling pieces of shit (t. Wiz) or have ideology conflicting through the devs see (KR)
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I'm a Lollard in my current CK2 game with Sons for Abraham enabled. Lollard is still a heresy (there's more Catholics than Lollards, i haven't done much converting)

If I convert to eu4, will my country be Lollard and Lollards will be a separate religion or will it flip to Catholic? The wiki gave conflicting answers
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Anyone else interested in coming to discuss eventually making a /gsg/ version of NWO, from scratch?
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>>165959490
>letting CIA anywhere near it

aaaand dropped.
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>>165959589
>e-drama and circlejerking
why should we be worried?
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>>165958751
I think I found the problem that causes the German tank-events to come to a halt.

MTB_GER_modelC, which is the first medium tank design for the main battle tank, requires Germany to control Warsaw, but Warsaw is controlled by the Polish puppet-state. It should work if you change it from
GER = { controls = 1928 }
to
1928 = { controller = { faction = axis } }
provided that the faction is also called Axis in the files, if not, it would obviously be the new name.

This should also enable the light tank brigade to activate, as it depends on the event above to set the proper flag.
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>>165959490
How will you add HDI and GDP into it?
>inb4 you won't
That's literally the only reason I'd like a modern age mod desu
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Grigsby and other wargames can leave the thread

>>165959379

>>165959379

>>165959379
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>>165958627
Here you go
Not much to it yet and I have other projects but I think it makes 1.07 at least a little more complete

http://pastebin.com/h8zC3nT2

>>165958951
I certainly hope not to allow my own political beliefs to seep into my mods
I have a bunch of ebin gross germanium decisions and suchlike but that's just because it's fun
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Are there any GSG mobile games?
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>>165959751
>How will you add HDI and GDP into it?
We haven't discussed that yet, and nothing's decided. I'm just checking if there are actually enough modders interested in signing up for this kind of project, we haven't started discussing game mechanics like nukes, pop growth or HDI.
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How long until EU4 implements a Kent->Calais Strait?
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>>165959589
>>165959678
what's this about? Who's CIA?
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>>165959948
I feel like you set this question up to receive only one possible answer, HoI4.
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>>165959981
thissss
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>>165959252
It should convert.
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>>165959984
literally no idea
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>>165959726
I've seen this as well but it's only for Germany, already replaced the file but have a look yourself. AHE decisions are completely different from what I have in the game here. Tried changeowner with Warsaw but it doesn't work either.
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>>165955795
Here's some GrobbGermaniums before I conquered the Netherlands, UK, Spain, Scandinavia, and conquered Russia.
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>>165960172
>Orthodox Sahara
ah yes
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>>165960359
>Hundreds of thousands of Germans storming through England
TEUTONED
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>>165959826
based
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>>165960359
>1945

How can it take you that long to invade the UoB as Germany?
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>>165960274
ffs I thought this was fixed.

Easiest thing to do would be to go into the BLUEMAX_AXIS_tanks_td.txt and add the AHE tag to the other nations there. Or do the same thing in the German tank file.
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Fucking oil grabbers
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>>165960738
I was trying out something new industrial build up wise and it backfired and took longer than I had intended. I was intending to leave the UoB for longer and expected a war with Russia so I was gearing up for that but they instead allied me, so I had to go back and prepare Para and Marines.
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Finished province plague transfer events for Apocalypse mod, now if certain provinces get infected they spread it to another specific province:
Seville-Rabat
Pusan-Nagasaki
Dunkirk-Canterbury
London-Quebec City and Cape Town

This is in addition to the pop growth event, so I'm going to test it to make sure it works
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>>165960172
>celtic norse britain
>romuva germanics
>orthodox north africa and spain
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>>165953120
>Not knowing about the Amazonian crop breeding despite guarana, açai and heart of palm being part of your cuisine.
>Probably doesn't know about the Marajo artificial mounds or any other actual built-up settlement of the pre-Columbian people of your own nation.
I mean, being a Lamarckian and a south american already tells you are dumb, but I'm impressed you need a foreigner to tell you the basics of your own nation.
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Should I outlaw slavery in VICtoria 2?
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>>165960792
This ain't working either.
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Knock-knock, Wu. I've come for your chinaware.

>>165961462
Mali was also Orthodox before Navarra gobbled their lands up. Orthodox faith colonised central America and I'll keep the last blob a secret for now,.
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To the guys remaking NWO or planning on it or whatever and whoever else knows anything:

Do you know how it manages to avoid have a 1836 start? In all of my experience, the game will crash if you don't have an 1836 start or will look extremely bizarre, i.e. the continent shadow/black outline disappears, etc.
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>>165962130
DELET
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I would like to just say that I wanted to find a post from a thread from yesterday but I couldn't. So I checked the non 4chan archive and there it was. Then I realized that OP's old thread quote is untrustworthy BECAUSE HE SKIPS ANY THREAD THAT HE DOESN'T MAKE AND PRETENDS IT DOESN'T EXIST CAN WE PLEASE PLEASE JUST FUCKING KILL THIS GUY ALREADY

It's all this petty fucking bullshit, I don't understand it.

I really really just want a mod to ban him every time he makes a thread and delete it until somebody else makes a thread. Don't ever let him make threads
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>>165962130
by it I mean NWO

>>165962235
fuck off, im working here
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>>165962130
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>>165962130
>In all of my experience, the game will crash if you don't have an 1836 start
Did you adjust the history files as well or just change the start date?
There are a lot files that reference 1836 and the timeframe the game takes place in, so if you don't change or have your mod ignore all the files referencing 1836 it'll have problems
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>>165962235
>>165962465
Don't worry lads that's confirmed not Natalia
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>>165962475
Is it really that simple? Are you saying this out of experience, or are you saying this because it just makes sense?

Either way, all I'm doing it editing bookmarks.txt and defines.lua.

>>165962465
no u

>>165962630
who
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Is it time to invade Sakhalin /gsg/? Or am I not strong enough?
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>>165961590
>>Not knowing about the Amazonian crop breeding despite guarana, açai and heart of palm being part of your cuisine.
I know about them, stuff that can be collected from trees which happen to be avaible during all the year and are very tasty. Don't say heart of palm, that sounds gay like passion fruit. It's fucking palmito.

>>Probably doesn't know about the Marajo artificial mounds or any other actual built-up settlement of the pre-Columbian people of your own nation.
I've probaly studied about that when in 5th grade, but no one gives a shit about what our savage ancestors "built" in the middle of the jungle. Actually, no one gives a shit to the barbaric and incestous natives living in literal zoos who also happen to be above valuable mineral resources.

>I mean, being a Lamarckian
>natural selection through breeding
>Lamarckian
That's Darwinism you witless cunt.

>I'm impressed you need a foreigner to tell you the basics of your own nation
If you said that to a random national you'd be right. I blame the (((leftist))) history teachers who teach that whitey was bad, we wuz kangz in Africa and the entire 19th and 20th centuries in Brazil were the worst.
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>>165962683
>out of experience
not really but I'm 99% sure you need to adjust all the provinces history files for your new start date as well as pop files
Every start date has it's own pop history file and section of the province history file
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Heh; nothing personal, kid.
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Anglo-American war. I quite like this mod, even with the tank glitch. Probably the best HoI3 mod I've played so far.
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>>165961807
fug it I never liked RPM much anyways.
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>>165962924
I can tell you from my experience that you don't need to add a new pop folder. The game will use the files before your date, insofar as I can tell. For example, if you make a 2000 start date, it will just use 1861 pops. Likewise when you make a new country you don't even need to make a history file for it.

Victoria is funny like that.

I've already got a pop folder for my start state anyways. What exactly you do mean how adjusting the province history files? Like remove the mention of 1861 or something?
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>>165962687
You can also pick an apple from a tree and that doesn't mean it is just laying around, they were selected and bred by the tribes of the area, who would replant them while killing other plants. Of course, that is not much compared to actual agriculture, but the system, in particular, is far more than what any other tropical culture or southern culture made. Plenty of books and research on it, none made by hues, just like any other worthwhile read on South America.

You also don't know about evolution apparently, but that is to be expected.
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>>165962686
How many army techs do you and the Russians have? That's all that really matters.
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>>165963102
What happened with China?
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>>165963373
>I can tell you from my experience that you don't need to add a new pop folder. The game will use the files before your date, insofar as I can tell. For example, if you make a 2000 start date, it will just use 1861 pops. Likewise when you make a new country you don't even need to make a history file for it.

Damn I had no idea it would do that

>What exactly you do mean how adjusting the province history files?
I figured you would need to specify owners and cores for the new start date in the province text files but now I'm not so sure
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>>165963558
I've already got my date in the game, man. I've already got custom stuff put in, and all of the vanilla countries still exist unless I've explicitly removed them. I just want to get rid of 1836 completely so I don't have to select my new date manually.

I guess I'll try the 1861 thing. Not sure what else to do.
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>>165963529
Nothing really, Russia didn't declare war on Germany or AHE either. Not much is happening right now really.
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Gross Hollandiums back at it. Please rate and give me some advice for ascetic borders.
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>>165963946
Which version are you using?
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Anybody got screenshots from Texas HPM game?

Is it possible to fend off the US from manifest destinerino?
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>>165964059
0.5
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>>165963968
Groot-Nederland + Picardy/Calais and Indonesia
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>>165955795
Großgermania* retard
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>>165964240
I don't think that the new version ever got updated because the mod was abandoned to prep for HoI4. There should have been some big things in China happen, the chances to happen must have been changed after the 0.5 release.

It just never got finished.
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I'm trying this again. Things are going better.

It'd be nice to have Moscow by Hitler's birthday but I see the soviets getting more organized and mechanized units making it to the front. I'm working on producing AT brigades but they're going slow.

Thankfully the Italians have taken the entire Med and the Balkans and N. Afica are done.
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>>165963424
>You can also pick an apple from a tree and that doesn't mean it is just laying around
You talk like it's a chore to scale a small tree and pick up a fucking fruit. Food was nevertheless avaible during all seasons and that has stamped out all genes required for a people to be hard-working and industrious. That's good sense, not muh racism or stupidity. It's quite known here that natives are lazy cannibal savages that other than providing women for breeding to the colonial adventurers did nothing worthy of notice.

>Plenty of books and research on it, none made by hues, just like any other worthwhile read on South America.
As I've said before, we couldn't care less on what these savages did before or White ancestors arrived and started to rape their women and their African sex slaves, resulting into our creation. In fact, Modern and COntemporary Europe are far more studied here than the history of WE WUZ JUNGLE KANGZ shit. If you European pussies find so interesting to study us then stop sending your imperialist NGOs to our Amazon that we might catalog everything for you if we find anything interesting.
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>>165964696
The support events fired but nothing ever really happened afterwards yeah.
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>>165961098
Alright, decent so far, the zombie wave hit Korea and a bunch of refugees fled to Nagasaki, which just made the undead problem even worse.

I had to flee to Sicily, but my army is strong enough to retake my land now
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Why the fuck do my cassus-belli justifications sometimes randomly get stuck without ever progressing?
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Is HPM dead?
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>>165965180
No, just busy
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>>165964826
If you think those NGO are "imperialists" I bet you would literally shake if you caught a glimpse to what an actual solution to the whole "dumb monkeys burning down the amazon and causing droughts across the world" problem looks like.

And stop pretending your stupidity is admirable, we both know that is not the case.
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>>165964826
>genes required for a people to be hard-working and industrious
Really hope you are underaged.
Otherwise I'd say you have extra chromosomes to give around.
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>>165965290
Good, I thought he had quit.
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>>165953120
>>165962687
>>165964826
Could you uncivilized savage please fuck off from our white&yellow general?
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hey /gsg/, is there a way to collapse yourself as the Qing and start the Warlord Era in HPM? wanna play the Nationalists and make China great again desu
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>>165965736
lose a war, get less than 200 prestige, get high militancy, stop being a monarchy
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>>165965736
You have to get to a certain westernization percentage to trigger the warlord era event
You could just trigger it by console if you wanted to cheat
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>>165964826
>imperialist NGO
Jesus christ, if you think Soros' crew is "imperialist" I imagine what you reaction will be when Europe and the US is at the Right again and they decide to better manage the resources you mongrels can't even properly protect.
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>>165953120
>>165962687
>>165964826
I'm speechless. I thought idiots like you had been contained in /luso/.
Please kill yourself.
t. another Brazilian
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>>165965963
>when Europe and the US is at the Right again and they decide to better manage the resources you mongrels can't even properly protect.
Are first worlders really this deluded?
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>>165966313
Russia and China are doing it with no problem, it is hard to think more continentalism won't be coming with other fourth theorists in power.
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>>165966406
>Russia
Epic.
>inb4 muh memezuela
Russia has minimal economic power in Venezuela and next to no economic power anywhere else in South America.
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>>165965379
>If you think those NGO are "imperialists"
>think
http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil/noticias/0,,OI2291132-EI306,00-Abin+investigara+ONGs+por+biopirataria.html

http://movimentoordemvigilia.blogspot.com.br/2008/06/abin-ongs-promovem-biopirataria.html

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/brasil/fc020821.htm

http://noticias.ambientebrasil.com.br/clipping/2005/06/09/19522-ong-americana-e-suspeita-de-biopirataria-no-brasil.html

>I bet you would literally shake if you caught a glimpse to what an actual solution to the whole "dumb monkeys burning down the amazon and causing droughts across the world" problem looks like
Killing the two digits IQ sized tribal leaders who are selling our trees and our minerals? 80% of the people here support that here, except the leftists who were in power a little while ago. And lol who gives a fuck about the rest of the planet, China and the USA keep polluting the whole planet and wrecking countries and we can't cut a half dozen of useless trees to increase our agricultural exports.

>And stop pretending your stupidity is admirable, we both know that is not the case
>not studying pseudo-human tribes because of muh virtue signaling means one is stupid
I bet you also admire the mudslime monkeys flooding your countries as well. Fuck off gringo, all of good you can give to us is your money and your tech, all else is shit.

>>165965565
Go suck a refugee cock, Hans.

>>165965732
"no"

>>165965963
>I imagine what you reaction will be when Europe and the US is at the Right again and they decide to better manage the resources you mongrels can't even properly protect
Lmao. Good luck trying to go through the only standing army other than Hezbollah trained on professional hybrid warfare. I'll laugh to death when I see the headlines of stupid gringo armies being slaughtered by us.

Here's is an example of why you shouldn't fuck with us:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Traira
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I accidentally fucked up my first upload of NWO Tweaks, fixed now

http://pastebin.com/h8zC3nT2
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>>165966693
>Brazilian niggers ACTUALLY think their pathetic mestizo hellhole is something to be feared
epic, quite simply
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>>165966747
>Populists 26.0%
>Traditionalists 3.8%
>Big Tent 41.6%

wow this is bretty amazing fa-

>Progressive 1.0%
>Socialist 1.2%

mfw
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I'm trying to play HoI III (after the disappointing lack of complexity in HoI IV, let's hope Parajews will fix it with DLC (but the greater disappointment that was Together for Victory makes it unlikely)) and I'm slowly getting the hang of it. I understand everything except the minutiae of combat (mostly strategy/tactics).

I want to ask one question, about threat and neutrality and stuff. Theoretically, when playing as France, would it be possible (with agressive espionage and threat raising) to invade and conquer Belgium (and perhaps even the Netherlands and Luxembourg)? It may sound gamey but my justification would be a more agressive, more wary France. The kind of France that fears Germany so much, it wants to force the Low Lands to extend the Maginot Line. Also, I think that as a babby newfag a little bit of gaming the system is justified, right?

Alright, I'll be honest: I want to conquer Belgium so I can annex the Rhineland without it looking ugly because muh aesthetic natural borders. I'm fine with Luxembourg being an enclave though.
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>>165966693
Volta pro barraco, Wonderscleyferson.
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>>165966693
Brazilian here

You're kind of right - unless they went full Vietnam and just burned it to the ground, there's no army in the world that could occupy the hellhole that is the Amazon forest. It's one thing our army does very well, and would be a nightmare for any foreign army even if we were shit at it. Whoever decided to fight back from the jungle (be it our armed forces or just guerillas) would never be dislodged.

That being said, the US could strangle our nation to death by occupying the coasts. I'm not sure we'd have it in us to do a lot of urban resistance and shit. Obviously this entirely hypothetical scenario depends a lot on what the circumstances of the invasion are, but currently people are just entirely apathetic about the country and wouldn't bother doing much of anything. A bunch of dickwads would even welcome the invaders because of their mongrel complex, thinking they'd make us respectable and first world™
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>>165966693
You know that the only thing stopping us from winning in Vietnam was leftist sabotage within our homeland and the threat of nuclear war if we went too rough.

>we can't cut a half dozen of useless trees to increase our agricultural exports.
Yes, because that fucks other countries' agricultural export when they have fucking droughts. It is even more stupid considering Brazil's actual agricultural powerhouse comes mostly from the southern states, all of which actually suffer from droughts caused by the rain cycles being messed up.
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>>165967645
>A bunch of dickwads would even welcome the invaders because of their mongrel complex, thinking they'd make us respectable and first world™
Honestly I'd be slightly happy since this is one of the few hypothetic scenarios where our politicians would be in danger and not in a position to fuck is in the ass as usual.
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nós somos /luso/ agora
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Mana sim kiddies BTFO
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>>165967337
My man, you don't have enough manpower, IC and technology for spy shit. You're probably not even going to be able to hold your own country down against France and you want to create an even bigger front. France in HoI3 is actually difficult, even on normal it'll mostly see you getting rekt.
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>>165968508
>against France
Germany obviously. Just defend and delete all the shit you don't need like ships for manpower.
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>>165968508
>France in HoI3 is actually difficult
I assumed (HoI4 logic) that it'd be easy because you have one front, one enemy and no supply worries. Guess that's off the table then.

Ironically enough Germany is the country I'm afraid of getting rekt as. I feel it will go like this:
>Build-up and early conquests will be piss easy, to the point where I can automate them
>Britain (navy and airforce) and SU (way too much land, way too many troops, way too many supply worries, way too much everything) will be horrible
But I guess I have to lose once or twice to learn how to win.
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>>165968172
>You know that the only thing stopping us from winning in Vietnam was leftist sabotage within our homeland and the threat of nuclear war if we went too rough
>implying we won't go full FSA and film every single dead civilian and "bakery" bombarded by the evil White man
You don't know how capable of victimization we are, do you? We are even better than niggers at it.
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>>165968172
>You know that the only thing stopping us from winning in Vietnam was leftist sabotage within our homeland and the threat of nuclear war if we went too rough.
Ah yes, the old "muh leftists" scapegoat.
Love how you also imply your "leftists" wouldn't condemn the war just like they did in Vietnam, that the American military wouldn't get tired of years in an ongoing war in dense jungles and there would be literally no opportunist threat from China, which is building a railroad linking the Peruvian and Brazilian ports through the Amazon as we speak.
>Brazil's actual agricultural powerhouse comes mostly from the southern states
That's wrong, the Center-West region is our agricultural powerhouse.
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>>165966747
Hey anon what are you planning on doing in the long run?
Because I've wanted to tweak NWO decisions/events for a while now. Nonetheless, good stuff
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How do I deal with a vassal conquering scary amounts of land from my other vassals? He's revolted now so I gotta fight him, but is there anything I can do to break up their power beforehand?
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>>165959490
I'm interested
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>>165969149
@lametimes on steam, drawn avatar with MAGA hat
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>>165966406
Except China is doing POLITICAL and ECONOMIC moves dumbass, the idea of a western nation straight out annexing the Amazon in 2017 just because some right winger (who doesn't even believe in Climate Change) leads the US is hilarious.
And no western nation will be able to do anything about it politically nor economically (other than the ongoing biopiracy) either.
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>>165968172
I do think Brazil is completely retarded on its continuing slash and burn of the Amazon for shitty agricultural land, but fuck right off with your bullshit. You think the industrial nations didn't cause absolute enviromental mayhem to get where they are? You think no one else was (and is) affected by their policies? How cute that now you're worried and won't let others do what they want because they might be affected too. Especially coming from the country that contiunously takes action against international agreements concerning the environment.
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>>165968172
>Muh leftists
We need to range ban yanks
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>>165969434
as an american fascist I agree with this image
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>>165968172
>Yes, because that fucks other countries' agricultural export when they have fucking droughts
That's good because other countries will stop producing agricultural goods while we increase our outputs, meaning we get more money while everyone else gets fucked in the ass. Literally nothing wrong in our viewpoint.

>It is even more stupid considering Brazil's actual agricultural powerhouse comes mostly from the southern states
You fell for some meme of kind. Most of it comes from the Center-West region and the new agricultural frontier in the North.

>all of which actually suffer from droughts caused by the rain cycles being messed up
They suffer from droughts since like forever and not because we're cutting trees and killing muh endanreged animals, are you retarded? All they need to do is be good white bouys and implement their Rhodesian cousins intensive agricultural system, which they will probaly do once we get rid of our massive bureaucracy.
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>>165968684
You can send less supplies through occupied land which is why your idea is already not good because Belgium and the Dutch will probably join Axis since you're in the Allies. Maybe if you declare limited war the won't.

Sealion is simple because the AI is retarded and doesn't defend properly, nothing to worry about here. SU is another story but it's just down to paying attention. You'll always run out of supplies and get slowed down. Can't do much about it. On the other hand, int and spies that lower national unity will easily beat the Soviets because you'll never have to take Moscow if you work properly with the victory points and they give up before you even get close.

Game is actually quite simple once you get down to it, just takes some time to figure shit out and then you'll realize that HoI3 is actually a lot more simple than it looks at first.
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They're also allied with two of the other biggest blobs.
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>>165969568
>once we get rid of our massive bureaucracy
I have some bad news for you, anon.
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How do I go about making a mod that alters the map (creates, removes, or alter the size of provinces)? I can find plenty of info on making custom nations or events, but not really much on the map. Help please?
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>>165969535
>fascist
Absolutely disgusting
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We've reached the outskirts of Stalingrad. There's only a garrison that decided to attack to push us back. I will surround them and crush them.
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>>165969535
>american fascist
You enjoy shitting on the legacy of the Founding Fathers?
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>>165969852
Shit, forgot to say: Victoria 2
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>>165969568
>That's good because other countries will stop producing agricultural goods while we increase our outputs, meaning we get more money while everyone else gets fucked in the ass. Literally nothing wrong in our viewpoint
That is pretty immoral anon.

Furthermore, the Amazon is pretty prone to desertification, unless your dream scenario is to have a hue nile, I'd think again.
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Someone add a modifier to Brazil in the NWO tweak that lowers the prestige by 2 every month, doesn't allow you to build factories other than sawmills and makes 100% of the population socialist, it's historically accurate.
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>>165970005
By posting liquor factories
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>>165970083
>you'll never be this mad
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>>165969982
no actually I don't
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>>165970083
>100% of the population socialist
And that's bad how?
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>>165970417
t. eurocuck

fascism is objectively the best ideology in Vicky
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Should I start a war over this shit? I'm probably just going to get my ass kicked if I do.
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Is it possible to get Jacobin Rebels as an Italian state? I've been told by a buddy that becoming a Democracy as the Papal State makes you the Roman Republic (1849).
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>>165970483
>Le cuck xdddd
No enjoy locking the states boots clean though anon :^)
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>>165970014
>That is pretty immoral anon
>a fucking White male telling us how we should run or not our country and our economy
How cute.

>Furthermore, the Amazon is pretty prone to desertification, unless your dream scenario is to have a hue nile, I'd think again
Let's say we chop down half of the trees after discovering every possible medicine avaible there, like the cure of cancer, and put there cities and huge agricultural fields, becoming the bread basket of the planet in the process. Do you know what will happen? Fucking nothing, we'll just become richer and get rid of that useless green sea.

>>165970083
Put a modifier to increase socialism when there are gibsmedat bux enabled and a modifier to increase nationalism when there isn't.
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>>165970716
White peace if possible. If France joins the opposition I think it'll be pretty rocky. NGF verses Russia is good, but a two front war for them is not. Plus you can probably deal with the brits easy.

Also, you may not know this, but if you suppress the movement causing tension, you won't have problems with crisis-es (whatever the plural is). Use the crisis map mode to figure out who's causing it and suppress them.
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>>165970716
>49/149

you're doing Nippon wrong senpai

build up your fucking ports and you'll be able to annihilate the Royal Navy
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>>165970737
Encourage liberals and find out.
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>>165970952
Great Britain is allied with Austria, and Russia is allied with France. So I probably have no chance.

>>165971056
I'm still new to Vic2, and I fucked up and lost a bunch of my transports to attrition. I'm rebuilding them now.
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>>165970746
>a SOCIALIST calling others bootlickers
the irony is palpable
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>>165970776
You realize that trees are important for more than just finding shit in them, right? Like ecologically, climatically, etc.? Do you realize that if the whole of the Amazon, or just half of it were gone, we'd would lose a significant fraction of trees on Earth? There is more at stake than money, shithead.
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>>165970776
>"a fucking White male"
>literally being a caricature of the triggered leftist
wew
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>>165945154
pls respond
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I tried playing Persia and following what that post said I annexed Kalat and then attacked the Sikh empire but as soon as I won I was attacked by the Afghans and got crushed.

Basically it seems that if I wait for the UK to attack the Sikhs before fabricating a CB then I'm too late to actually get the land before the UK annexes them and if I just attack the Sikhs on my own I lose too many troops to fend off the Afghans.

Any tips?
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>>165971334
>You realize that trees are important for more than just finding shit in them, right? Like ecologically, climatically, etc.? Do you realize that if the whole of the Amazon, or just half of it were gone, we'd would lose a significant fraction of trees on Earth? There is more at stake than money, shithead.
Poor trees and poor little monkeys. You cucks destroyed your forests in the process of becoming industrial powerhouses, and we can't do the same with our jungles? Fuck off, if you don't like the heat then buy a fucking air conditioner.

>>165971392
I was just trying to show how much of an actualt leftist the guy I've quoted was showing to be. I'm an actual far-right winger with some fascist inspirations. I just cannot condone other countries, and pricipally historically imperialist countries like the 1st world ones, Russia and China, dictating what we should do or not with our resources.
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how do you genocide in HPM? I've played several games as the Germans/Qing/US and had the requisite government types but have never had the option to do it
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>>165972483
>1st world ones
>Russia and China
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>>165973026
you need rhetoric of hate (invention)
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>>165970005
>>165969852
Anyone? Please?
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>>165971124
I've got Liberals up to like 60% of the population and keep getting nothing but Girabaldi rebels. No reforms passed to lower militancy, for obvious reason.
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>>165973530
I didn't mean that China and Russia were, dumbass, I've just included them separatedly from the 1st world ones. I guess I should've changed that order.
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Hey look an article about Huey Long...
http://www.businessinsider.com/ray-dalio-populism-scares-me-2017-1
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Alright, all events seem to be working good so far, I'm at the stage of the apocalypse where almost every country is dead and random pops from all over the world move to random provinces. Mecklenburg has 100 people and 60 of them are Japanese

Im gonna continue about 10 years to try to gauge the pop growth, ideally I want countries to be able to regrow enough for 2-3 brigades if they are a decent size. The only other problem is Britain, I'm going to have to make some more infection events for them
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>>165973960
>random pops from all over the world move to random provinces
that's kind of neat desu
Walloon kingdom around the Caspian sea when
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Is the Extended Timeline mod for EU4 any good? If I play within the original game's timeframe will the experience basically be the same?
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confirmed, Qing in HPM is rebel simulator 2017

this is a long fucking road to nationalist china
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Alright bois. Qing AAR time in Victoria 1. I am learning this game as I play, so bear with me. It is a bit different from victoria 2. I just checked the state beijing is in and it has like 130 pops?!?!? Dis gon b gud
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>>165973960
Are you trying to port the Apocalypse mod to HPM or what?
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>>165974974
It's already ported, I'm just trying to make it less shit, hopefully going as far as to make it fun after the initial wave

http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk
It's right here
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>>165975276
Is it intentional just to have everything occupied?
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>>165972483
>bolsonaro

I, too, am 14 years old and edgy as sh*t
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>>165975356
>voting for the only candidate that isn't a socialist piece of shit that will bring brazil ever-closer to Venezuela-tier poverty is "edgy"
some people just can't be reasoned with
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>>165975356
t. Ciro voter
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Invaded Korea. In this game, i guess uncivilized powers can actually be GPs so i am gonna gun for GP status. In other news, I spent 80% of my budget on education this past year and my literacy grew 1% in less than a year. We Wuz Scholars n' shit
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>>165973710
I'm not sure how rebels work. I haven't the slightest clue. But I think it's safe to say that you don't get them if you've a.) encouraged them and b.) have liberal agitation events going on throughout the rest of Europe.

You didn't get any of the liberal agitation things, did you?
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>>165972212
When the Sikhs are at 100% WE, they'll accept your offer for the Sikh Baluschistan regardless of you even occupying a single province of them.
>I annexed Kalat and then attacked the Sikh empire but as soon as I won I was attacked by the Afghans and got crushed.
All you have to do is occupy a single province of them and they'll go as far as accepting you to take their Baluschi province. Also remember you already have the tech to build artillery.
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>>165974541
>lose to a massive reactionary rebellion
>lose all reforms
>disband entire army and scrap entire navy
>militancy immediately begins to skyrocket again

literally fucking why
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>>165975356
This desu
>>165975548
>I don't like this guy therefore he's a socialist :DD
Consider suicide.
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>>165975721
>Qing reactionaries are organizing again and on the verge of rebellion
>I literally did fucking nothing to agitate them

tfw literally dindu
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>>165975850
>I don't like this guy therefore he's edgy :DD
Consider suicide.
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>>165975721
China should be an NPC in Victoria 2 with their own mechanics. They just don't work with the same rules as everyone else. Scale is way off.
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>>165975714
Been using the Springtime of Nations to hyperboost my population to Liberal. (To make them join Jacobin faction.) So, yeah, basically everything but Rome itself has Liberal Agitation. So you think I just need to wait for the SoN to end?
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>>165975906
>I don't like this guy therefore he's the same guy I dislike with whom I formerly had a conversation :DD
Consider hanging yourself.
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>>165975906
>this guy says edgy things to pander to edgelords and therefore he's edgy
Sounds about right
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>>165976090
You replied to the post that said that with "This" you fucking idiot
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>>165975939
>>165975881

>recruit a new nine-regiment army of mixed regulars and cavalry
>put down minor reactionary rebellions in Jiangsi province
>militancy continues to increase
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>>165976340
>Taiping nationalists revolt in the west
??????
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>>165976090
>>165975850
>>165975356
t. MAV-Ciro

Enjoy your leftist internationalist and coronel candidate in 2018, you docile cucks.
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>>165976505
http://55chan.org/b/src/1484790966799.mp4
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>reactionaries and Taiping nationalists revolting at the same time
>you only have one half-strength army to deal with about 400,000 rebels
>more rebellions each week swell enemy numbers
>tfw you realize you're doomed for this shit for the next 50 years
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>>165969852
>>165970005
Ok, how about this: where can I go to get answers, if not here? (That isn't paradoxplaza).
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Name a more iconic trio...you literally can't /gsg/
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>>165976004
Are you using HPM? This doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it will impact which files I will look at. Besides, it'd be like HPM to disallow things like Papist liberal rebels (not that that's a bad thing).
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>>165974623
is this actually worth playing?
I really like the idea of playing it
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>>165976340
>have a population of like a billion distributed on a hundred states
>have 1 NF for over half the game, then capped to 7 if you spend the other half researching that tech tree exclusively

NFs should serve with some function of bureaucrats, admin spending, state efficiency and whatever. It's fucking mental how it works in absolute numbers. Even Russia kind of have that problem, what with the huge country and low literacy. If you manage to turn a shithole into an efficient state, it should run like one.
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@165976865
@165976914
Reported.
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>>165977013
yes

t.kurek
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My empire fares pretty good I guess, thanks for asking
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>>165976625
Ele ficaria muito bem pepeficado tho
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>there are now close to a million Taiping nationalists and reactionaries flooding the country
>my only army has been destroyed in a battle with rebels of equal numbers
>time to go suffer more pop deaths as they occupy every province before finally occupying the capital
>rinse and repeat for the next five decades
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>>165976505
ok bud
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>>165977558
>Guangdong, Fujian, and Guangxi nationalists rise up

rip Qing dynasty 1644 - 1850
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>>165976951
Vanilla. Haven't played much with any of the major mods.
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So, answering my own question from a few threads ago, florryworry does, in fact, study history academically.
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Does anyone have a download link for NWO mod 1.07?
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NuChinks are getting BTFO as we speak. Had to savescum because i didn't realize i had to MANUALLY REINFORCE MY UNITS. But that is fixed and i am crushing the NuChinks with like half my army. Viva la Chink
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>>165978131
i don't
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What percentage of /gsg/ users do you believe actively cheat with console, savescum, or mod themselves bonuses?
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>>165979140
>console
25%
>savescum
90%
>cheatmods
10%
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>>165979140
100%
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>>165979140
for console like 80%. I don't give myself lots of money or reduce militancy, however I do use console for stuff like firing events that didn't but should of, or debug yesmen to make a country accept a peace offering they would accept 3 months from now due to ticking warscore.
>>
How does Stellaris play, is it like EU4?
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>>165979140
I'm actually here to ask how to force the AI to agree to a peace deal in EU4.

Having to control the fort your wargoal is in the ZoC of is all well and good, what isn't all well and good is when there is literally no fucking fort and they demand you take a non-existent fort anyway.
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>>165979676
yesman
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>>165979675
>>>/4xg/
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>>165979787
>helping cheaters
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Alright lads, I've seen the boatloads of complaining, and am thinking of undertaking the effort to port Divergances of Darkness out of PDM. So what exactly do you want to see done, and to what extent? List your problems with the PDM economy, and I'll see what I can do, and maybe even do custom things like adding more goods, or methods of acquiring goods.

Basically, what do you want to see done?
>>
When westernizing as Oman, should you release Zanzibar? I feel like it's easier to drive up literacy without them as an actual part of Oman.
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Version 0.2 of Africamod is up
Probably buggy and imbalanced, if anyone plays this tell me any critiques you have

As always, suggestions are much appreciated, I'd be glad to implement them
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>>165979940
>using the console to fix the game is cheating
Enjoy your 12th British War for French West indies resulting in a great war for the 3rd time.
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>>165980085
>Basically, what do you want to see done?
DoD + HPM
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>>165980085
>List your problems with the PDM economy
too much bloat. too many new goods, too many new factories, too many new units etc. At least in my opinion

>pic related
why
>>
>>165980085
based

the main problems with PDM in my opinion are:
-Too many goods the AI cannot handle
-Too much fucking with the economy that the devs didn't understand
-A lot of numbers are utterly out of whack in PDM, see gold rush events giving +10000% immigrant attraction and bringing a million pops to the outback of Australia in 1850
>>
>>165980221
Where's the download link?
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>>165980221
>>165980605
Epic, I forgot
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ
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Crushed NuChinks fairly easily. War is a bit more of a hassle and takes longer in Victoria Revolutions. But i kinda like the idea of manpower that the game has like Eu4 or HOI3. Only got 4 provinces for 100 warscore tho. So that sucks dick. I hope not all wars are this useless.
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In addition to random events, you also get a decision to increase pop growth, but its you can only use it every so often so its not as reliable
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>>165980260
>being bad at the game and unable to take fucking territory is "fixing" the game
I suppose it is if by fixing you mean rigging.
>>
>>165981064
doing god's work my dude
>>
>>165981064
I'm not sure if you know how these effects work, but 0,5 is an insane bonus.
>>
>>165981064
>>165981284
Specially for 10 years and without checking if the provinces are actually depopulated, and the decision doesn't give enough context either.
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>1856
>just put down the Taiping
>fourth widespread reactionary rebellion begins

when will this fucking end
>>
>>165981119
>paradox game
>fixable
No matter what you do it is a game of you trying to prop up the enemy AI so they can put up a fight come mid to endgame. Multiplayer with me taking the roles of multiple countries would quite literally be a far bigger challenge than paradox AI. hen again what is to be expected when you employ the mod community for cheaps to make your games.
>>
>>165981064
Do you have any plans to make an independent Texas more feasible/playable?

Not that fun getting helplessly steamrolled by USA.
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Gross Hollandiums here

I just got elected Emperor and got the Commonwealth under a PU

There's only 1 elector and it's a theocratic 1 provence minor who's my bff

This is my first playthrough, why is it so ez
>>
>>165981284
at this point most people will probably be dead from the plague so it won't be that huge
>>
>no MP in the last 72 hours
I'm dying pham
>>
New

>>165981181
>>165981181
>>
>>165976914
The son, the father and the holy spirit.
>>
>>165980085
I kind of like that it has multiple paths to the same goods (especially when you often need specific goods for raising armies and shit). Like, it's good that you can make textiles from wool. What's stupid is all the slightly different outputs and shit.

Moving all the soldier troops in a state to a single province is actually pretty good, if sometimes flawed (when a state's provinces are divided).

Also not a fan of all the different troops, but restricting non-accepted to lighter infantry/cavalry/artillery is a nice touch (would work better if it was restricted to colonies somehow)
>>
>the thread got deleted
R&I thread will be up within 5 minutes, guarenteed
>>
the janitor
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>>165981284
>>165981391
Yeah, I get that. I made two decisions for precisely that reason, one only works once and requires you to have beaten the zombies, and another is able to be taken every decade and requires you to lose to the zombies (All provinces occupied at some point, its a modifier already in the mod)

The event (unrelated to the decision) checks if a province has less than 10k pops though, and won't work if you don't have a province under 10k that's not desert or tundra

>>165981408
Not really what I'm currently working on, but what do you suggest?
>>
really?
>>
Wargamers go here

>>165980543

>>165980543
>>
Did R&I delete the thread because someone got a post in before him?

I'm having trouble believing the janitors are actually doing their job.
>>
REEEEEEEEE
>>
so it's 1860 and i've endured five reactionary rebellions plus the Taiping. is there any way to seriously modernize or do I just wait for the Qing to collapse (my goal is to be Nationalist China and Make China Great Again)
>>
Stop making new thread 100+ posts early you fucking autists. All this fucking drama because of a shitty infopic that nobody ever reads. Get a life morons.
>>
New

>>165983073
>>165983073
>>165983073
>>165983073
>>
>>165983279
kill yourself
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>>165983148
>Did R&I delete the thread because someone got a post in before him?
This is literally exactly what happens
>>
>>165983279
based
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>>165983396
Maybe because it's 100 posts too early
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>>165983561
why do the R&I threads that get posted that early not get deleted?
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>>165983818
There is a difference between 40 early and 120 early
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>>165983818
because people tend to migrate there and post games, whereas in competing threads there's more drama. Not defending r&i, just saying what I think happens
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>tfw trying to keep militancy low so the 728th reactionary rebellion doesn't launch when you glance over at Japan and see the Shogunate winning the Boshin War
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>>165980697
Does this include the re-shaped provinces in the ZAF?
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>>165985880
Whew, dead thread is dead
>>
>>165993571
What?
>>
>>165983279

>fucked up OP
>made more than 100 posts earlier
proper thread
>>165994414
>>165994414
>>165994414
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>>165994683
no
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>>165994683
>80 posts early
Retard
>>
not dying today
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>>166004524
Are you fucking retarded?
>>
Kaiserreich for Hearts of Iron IV Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!dVV3xADS!vnrE6vWGAQWDbiMEDKC_JQ!FQ9CALoT
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>>166005641
Are you?
>>
>>165969982

Their legacy was a confederation of 50 states under a Republic with some democratic institutions.

Now faggots want to change it into direct democracy.

The founders were fucking horrified by that concept.
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