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>>165844779
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Reminder that Gul'dan is fucking dead.
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>>165905380
>THIS... CANNOT... BE!!!

What did he mean by this?
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which class is a cuck least likely to play
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>>165905536
DH or DK
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The game is heading in a boring direction. We are just doing the same old same old now, 10 new levels, a new island we explore in short order then stay on for 2 years.

Let's do something difference. Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms have been ignored for years now. They not only need an HD graphic update (kinda like how Dalaran got one in Legion) but also new quests, and things to do in the "old world".

Blizzard doesn't need to make more zones out of their asses and have contrived explanations. Just use what we already have, just freshen it up first.
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>>165905536
The Elysium class.
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I want to breed a blood elf.
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How long does normal NH take to clear?
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Belfs should be big!
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>it's another "dude adds lmao" raid
Fuck this garbage. Especially botanist.
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>>165905578
I thing they are wowking on WoW2 problem is WoW engine parts are from 90s thats 20+ years
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>>165905817
?
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What ranged DPS class/spec should I level?
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>>165906012
>>165906050

I'm no expert in cuck language but I believe he is moaning about the amount of add mechanics in night hold bosses.
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>165906012
fak u noob
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>>165906131
>>165906050

limbos get the fof out off are
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<This Game is SO Hard> @ Illidan horde. Recruiting good players
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>Heal/cum slut hasn't been online for 8 hours

What do I do guy I miss them :(
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Just started playing Shadow how fucked am I?
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Why is prydaz even a possible drop for damage specs? Why would a damage spec want an item that lets them stand in the fire more? It's so fucking stupid. Even sephuz has its uses
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>>165906259
>cash shop helm
ayyy fuckin noob
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>hate my guild
>want to join a new one
>don't want to fill out guild applications and do interviews
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>>165906259

not a tier set so lick my nuts
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>>165906183
>furfag guild

no ty
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>get a sephuz 7 hours before patch

I knew I shouldn't have done any content.
>3 legendaries
>all 3 are shit

At least they're off the loot table now, r-right?
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>>165906259
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>>165906259
nice store helm fkin noob lol
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>>165906452
>Hey guys I got 1800 once the post

This set is literally a shitters wet dream
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>>165906491
>>165906394
fk you you are noobs
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>>165906259
dude ur a huge noob
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>>165906043
shadow priest is quite good.
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Is there any downside to dotting up Valarjar shit in Odyn? Yesterday my RL was screaming at me for "padding" because whenever I wasn't branded I dotted all adds up and during Hyrja - Hymdall I dotted both up. If I'm still doing mechanics is there any real downside to it? I see it as playing to your class strengths, my dots are like 60% of my dps and can be applied to many targets, why not take advantage of this to increase the raid's overall damage?

Same shit in Helya and Nightmare Dragons even though I've never felt asleep on dragons except for tank fuckups.
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rate my mog shitters lmao
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>>165906602
explain?
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>tfw no one ever remembers prologue/legacy/aevum

I feel so alone.
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>>165906456
>furfag
>two pandas
>two tauren
Hmm...
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>>165906602
>trying to make a poor anon fall for the sp meme

Don't do it dawg, level a mage if you want a clothie caster that will forever and ever be relevant.
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>>165906543

whoa careful with that edge there, faggot

don't want to cut yourself
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>>165906543
It's not the worst of sets, though.

>also being bothered about how easy it is to get
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>>165906661
depends, Odyn you're fine and you should dot them, Helya the small minions don't really need to be dotted focus instead on multi-dotting tentacles and mariner/grimelord. Are you aff or shadow? aff should dot adds enough to maintain wrath of consumption, and shadow should dot at least a few to keep up twist of fate. Either way your rl is a screamer who doesn't know how classes work
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>>165906846
>Gets called out and is 100% right on the callout
>O-oh fuck he got me better call him an edgy faggot that'll show him!

Easiest (You) of my life
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Breath of Sindragosa is making me want to quit this game
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Guys who do I speak to get the lego upgrade quest?
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Post things that irreparably ruined WoW and that will never be removed:

1.) Arena
2.) LFR
3.) CRZ & sharding.
4.) Heirlooms.
5.) Boosts and class trials.
6.) Blood Elves.
7.) Pandaren.
8.) Any sense of challenge during leveling.
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>>165906989

I come to /wowg/ to witness autism like this. I never leave disappointed.
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>>165906964
Shadow, also yeah, on Helya I don't really dot up small ones except when everything else is dead or incidentally through the legendary ring. Loads of dots even give me extra insanity due to apparitions.

Anyway good to know, thanks.
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>>165907124
explain?
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>>165905784
Just because you're fat doesn't mean everything should be.

Also, who's going to miss me asking for Helya upskirts?
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the art design team on these bosses actually killed it, stuff like star auger looks awesome.
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Cleared 6/10 tonight and didn't like the raid much to be honest. If this is suppose to last until august or september, I think we're in big troubles.
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>>165907171

>p-please help me out I am a retard I need special guidance
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>>165906456
>This anon so mad he'll never be Bearheart's gf
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how do I get recruited by a mythic guild

I have a bunch of logs (like three weeks worth) of consistent 90+ parses, but I'm only 876 and the parses are heroic only
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>>165907360
go to a shitty mythic guild, app get in and get experience on some mythic bosses and then leapfrog to a better mythic guild that can actually clear the whole instnace.
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>>165907360
join a casual mythic guild
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>>165907342
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pitaNJRLcU4

Nostalgia.
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>>165907054
1.) PvP
2.) Raids without attunements
3.) Any races and classes from BC onward.
4.) Flying
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>stupid fucking guild wants to start on Normal NH tomorrow
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>>165907318
6/10 normal? Way to go. Pugs have already surpassed you.
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>>165907054
How can you be against both CRZ and sharding at the same time, they're opposite things. CRZ increases the density of a server by filling it with more players from other servers and sharding decreases the density by giving only a smaller number of players in one plane of the world server for a realm.
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> He didn't clear heroic on day one.

Alright casuals, let's hear the excuses.
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>>165907707
I did and I have world first on Gul'dan right now until someone updates their wowprog to say otherwise, whats your excuse for not having world first you shitter?
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>>165907501
explain?
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>>165907821
What do you need me to explain? What was so confusing about my post?
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>>165907870
Just ignore it.
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>>165907707
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>>165907412
but I'm shy and dislike the whole application progress because I'm scared of being rejected

Also I can't really dedicate much more than 2h daily
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>>165908001
Ignore what
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>>165908094
The fellow who spams "explain?".

>>165908063
>looking to join Mythic raiding guild
>2 hours a day

Am I reading this right?
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>>>165908094
wath
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>>165907707
We don't clear until the end of the week since we're busy doing split clears. You ARE getting 4-piece on all of your raiders before mythic, right? You aren't actually proud of using all your best raiders to clear ezmode, right? Please tell me that was one main and a bunch of alts that you cleared.
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>>165907707

>raiding
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>>165908094
The explain poster is getting a 30 day ban to each ip he evades with
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do i really have to have done the entire nightborne quest shit to be attuned for nighthold?
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>>165906749
fun class in general. mages as >>165906827
suggested can be good and fun, but if the spec you thoroughly enjoy gets nerfed to fuck all, fun will be 404.
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>>165908357
Yes
Also you need to finish illidan questline from xera
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>>165907054
>1.) Arena
>6.) Blood Elves.
1. competative pvp that you can't stand because you cant spend time farming the gears you will need for it (read: resilience pre resil removal)
6. blood elf oh just that race that has been in warcraft since forever? yea lets remove that.
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>have several ranks 1 for my spec on my server
>warcraftlogs still not updating
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What's the current tier list right now?

Are Hunters still shit?
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>>165908654
should be stats up on warcraftlogs tomorrow
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>>165908472
just fuck my ass
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>>165908137
2h a day plus raid days
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>>165908562
explain?
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>>165907495
>2.) Raids without attunements
Oh come on. So unnecessary
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When do I use Void torrent as soon as I enter voidform or when I'm close to dropping?
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>>165908784
With pleasure
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Any horde group still gonna be running normals?
I want to tank but I've got an irregular schedule
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It's chroNOmatic anomaly not chromatic you fucks chronomatic as in chronos the Greek word for time because it fucks with time and makes you go fast or slow REEEEE STOP SAYING CHROMATIC
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>>165908976
by xera quest you don't mean the 80 dungeon things. i know you don't..
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>>165908934
I usually use it when everything is on CD and I'm close to losing it
I figure, staying in voidform longer is more important, right?
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>>165909106
Same here, I figure those extra seconds of mass hysteria ticking + how hard voit scales with haste outweigh saving a few seconds on the cd

But how2priest says to voit asap to have as many as possible during the fight, and I can see that making sense since it's like starting VF with 4 stacks
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>>165909206
it doesn't matter what you fucking do as long as you press buttons in the expected way

seriously go and half ass dps and you'll only do like 20k less than if you were trying hard.
miss a gcd, lose some stacks, use a cd in the wrong place. but as long as you pressed the button it does damage

it's a bit disheartening really. not rewarded at all for being good
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>it has fucking wings
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UHHHHHHHHHH SHAMANS?
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>>165909401
>frost and unholy that low in night-"here cleave down these fucking adds"-hold
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>>165909401
>EN
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>>165909519
that's EN

Nighthold stastics aren't public yet
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>>165909519
thats my image
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>>165908867
explain?
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>>165905165
>>165905262
>>165905290
it's mythic mode only
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whens 7.2
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>>165909861
considering 7.2 is broken shore probably not until may at the earliest
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Has Tichondrius been nerfed yet?
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>>165909894
will 7.3 exist?
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>>165909964
Probably
7.3 is supposed to be Argus
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>>165910021
which one will hunters be good in?
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>>165910045
7.2 is when they plan to add traps back to every spec so I hope then
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>>165910087
that was last week and they became the worst class in the game
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Just got Prydaz as my first legendary on my arcane mage.

Is it a meme, or genuinely good?
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so illidian will be reformed, but someone else will be inside his body?
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>>165910142
oh I see
shit sorry bro just enjoy your hunter casually
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>>165910161
cuck bubble

wouldn't you have rather had a dps legendary that alters your playstyle making the game more enjoyable?
too bad you got a passive pos
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>>165910175
YOU, our champion, will inhabit Illidan's body by the end out the expansion
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i hate demon hunters and demon hunter players
all a bunch of cringey retards, especially on rp servers. holy FUCK
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>>165908058
>videos of heroic kills instead of putting a tiny bit of extra work into mythic videos ahead of time
???
¿¿¿
?¿?
¿?¿
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>>165910393
>upside down ?

how??????
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female panda ass
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>>165910323
*fel rushes behind u*
psh...I've sacrificed everything kid..what have YOU given??
*vengeful retreats off the map and dies*
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>>165910430
Literally one of the top results in Google for "upside down".
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>>165910161
nah you're fine 2 and 3 legendaries drop really fast

if you don't get a good second and third legendary then you should probably just remake the character though
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If I get a keystone from my weekly chest, does that mean that I can't get one from the normal mythics?

Did I get cucked and missed out on my free +2 mythic keystone from normals, and instead picked up a 7+ one?
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>Fell for the Outlaw is fun meme
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>>165910596
you would have just picked up your +7 off a mythic boss.
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>>165910625
Literally nobody says that you only play Outlaw if you want to tear your eyes out at the infuriating fact your dps is entirely left to chance.
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>>165910596
no you can only get one
basically it's a fucking dumb system, everyone should start at +2 every week. it's annoying getting boosted to +11 then getting a +7, missing out on gear you could actually use
and you'll rarely get into anything else because your ilvl is so low
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>Elysium has gone through more than 3 threads in the past hour
No joke, this general is actually fucking dead. But I still don't get it. Is Vanilla really that much better than retail is now? I hear leveling used as an example, but do people actualy give a shit about leveling?
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>>165910770
Raids are objectively worse
Leveling is objectively worse
Everything else is objectively better by a ton
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>>165910625
>>165910676
>play SnD outlaw
>have tons of fun while doing moderate single target and fucking amazing AoE
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>>165910818
i bet you've never broken 1mil dps on 3 packs
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>>165910887
But I have? Why are you so hostile
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>>165889534

Paladins can buy a feature from their order hall to kneel in prayer and light beams onto them.

Of course priest doesn't get it because blizzard doesn't give a fuck about them
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>>165910818
yea but you could have a DH with batshit insane aoe and top 3 singletarget instead
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>>165910930
because i hate outlaw!!!
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>>165911086
but DH isn't a fun pirate dual wielding thunderfury
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Any fury warriors here? How fucking long did it take you to drop the item from the gib me de aegis guy for the hidden skin?
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next expansion old gods confirmed
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>>165911143
>pirate
>thunder fury
>swaps dice roll

also
>spamming run through
>fun
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>>165911143
>outlaw
>fun

I mean, the heroic leap grappling thing is okay.
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>>165911197
>not having fun going 1 cp to 5 cp with a good saber slash proc
and DH is even simpler
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learn
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>>165911194
>next expansion
i dont believe anymore
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>>165911194
every single expac is old god themed lmao
>ulduar old gods
>cata all old gods
>panda old gods
>sargeras old god

zzz old god muh lovecraft cthulu 0_0
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currently a shadow priest 858 gear (struggling to get into heroic EN due to carry me niggers)
Average dps is looking something like 200k if Im moving due to mechanics, 300k if I can free cast a little with 3 or more enemies grouped up and 500k if its constant 3 or more enemies with constant free cast.
however average in a normal encounter is 200k
is that normal for me whos at 858? if not how do I improve? I've kicked out S2M due to the nerfs to it and the god awful playstyle but am I gonna be forced to pick it up again?
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>>165911194
I hope this is the last expansion

Void lords can eat a fat chode no one cares about them and their lack of established lore.
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>>165911296
old god to end all old god
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Cutie/simple

rate me
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one legendary bow WTF?
and monks got glaives
should of been hunters able to roll for gliaves
warriors and roughes were stealing our bows
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>>165911348
hundred bucks it wont end for the same reason theres a call of duty every year.
its blizzards cash cow. why do you think they are desperately trying to make new games that isnt wow
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>my vagina when he has prydaz/sephuz
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Is Legion fun? Would a mythic SoO raiding hunter be appreciated?
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>>165911338
It's alright don't really expect to hit 300k consistently with sub 860 gear.

And no S2M is dead and buried unless sub 3 minute bosses become a thing.
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>>165911494
I don't have any legendaries yet am I still a potential mate?
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>>165911497
no its not fun and hunter is garbage
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>>165911497
Hunter is pretty awful right now.
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>>165911494
I WISH I had prydaz on my guardian druid
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>>165911494
sephuz is legit decent now
it's a mini bloodlust on a 30s CD if the mechanics allow for it
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>>165910957
That used to be a glyph paladins had
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>>165911641
>>165911626
>>165911519
>these thirsty fuccbois desperately trying to excuse their lack of BiS leggos
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>>165911194
NO i want my south seas expansion !!! TRolls zandalari!!!
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I'm at 852. What do I do for gear?
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>>165911709
I have my BiS it's just prydaz is really fucking good on tanks now
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>>165911770
unless you got a guild you can say goodbye to ever doing heroic EN via pugs.
filthy niggers constantly asking for aotc and people geared higher than what the instance could actually give.
its an endless limbo where you cant do anything
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>rolled the 3 worst legendaries except for prydaz
>who wants to bet my fourth is prydaz
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jelly?
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>>165911296
except next expansion will literally be old gods: the expansion, moreso than cata

any shadow priest knows this, the weapon can't stop talking about their soon coming return
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>>165911837
Hell at 852 nobody wil pick you up for normal kek

Honestly I don't see how somebody without a guild can get geared, WQs only give so much. Meanwhile with a guild you just ask them to carry you through a maw for a key then get some boosts and jump like 20 ilvl in an afternoon.
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>>165911770
try to find people for pvp and queue up
the gear that drops has garbage stats but highitemlvl and that is all that matters for pugs
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>>165910817
>""objectively""
>worse
Pick 1 and stop using that word.
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>>165912134
unless they ask for an aotc, which I cant get because I cant get into a heroic pug, which I cant do because I dont have an aotc, which I cant get because I cant get into a heroic pug, which I cant do because I dont have an aotc, which I cant get because I cant get into a heroic pug, which I cant do because I dont have an aotc, which I cant get because I cant get into a heroic pug, which I cant do because I dont have an aotc, which I cant get because I cant get into a heroic pug, which I cant do because I dont have an aotc, which I cant get because I cant get into a heroic pug, which I cant do because I dont have an aotc, which I cant get because I cant get into a heroic pug, which I cant do because I dont have an aotc
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>>165909401
>All the boring and shitty classes at top dps
>All the fun ones, as well as Shaman, are low dps

Fix this god damned game already, Blizzard. both Warriors, BM and Survival Hunters, and Frost and Arcane Mages should be top dps. Rogues should be damn close to Warriors, if not equal. Affliction should be the lowest with Destruction on top of the locks.

So many things wrong with this "balance".
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>>165911837
>what is -forged
>what is legiondaries and artifact weapon inflating ilvl
>what is people wanting a smooth run
just because the average ilvl is above what the raid provides doesn't mean there can be lots of upgrades in there
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>>165912213
Frost mage isn't a dps class, it's a cc potato factory. Frostbolt does less than some classes autoattacks
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>>165912213

>bm hunter
>fury warrior
>fun

theyre literally retard baby specs
>>
>>165912213
but thats a matter of preference, I have a guildee that enjoys affliction more than ever, and if anything just hates how seed of corruption works now.
>>
>friend crying in teamspeak
>apparantly frost dks are completely dead in pvp now
>completely fucked because of a hotfix
scary how fast your class and content you like to do just gets removed
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>>165912286
>actually defending "carry me" niggers
>>
>Got Aggramar's Stride, then Sephuz' Secret, and just recently Archimonde's Hatred Reborn
>Run speed boots with no noticeable speed
>Run speed ring clearly meant for minigames
>Okay filler trinket

I'll start getting real legendaries on my warrior soon, right? I can't keep getting these situational and pretty much useless ones again, right?
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>>165912330
What did they change?
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>he doesn't have his mystic gul'dan mount yet
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>>165912471
apparently insanely high mastery nerfs
he did skirms with me and he said he does like half the damage that he used to
>>
>>165912446
>soon
well the chance of getting the next legendary halves every time so
>>
>>165912446
ring doesn't even work in minigames
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>>165912610
Which is bullshit. I got shafted with fucking shared legendaries only, so I'm forced to sit out of my raid group because I'm not optimized. Fuck Blizzard.

>>165912638
Seriously? It's clearly intended to be a pvp legendary, yet it doesn't work in pvp? Holy shit I can't believe I had one of my early legendary drops wasted on this trash.
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>>165912501
>empty Dlaran
fake and gay
>>
>>165907707
>Quit raiding officially in 6.1
>Friends desperately needed help in 7.0 so I helped
>1/7M then stopped

I rp now. In terms of autism rankings its.
PvP>>>>>>>>Raiding>>>>>RP
>>
>>165907707
>He ISN'T a Euro.
Have fun always being second best. Wait, that's the Russians!
>>
>he hasnt killed a single heroic boss in nighthold
lmao..
>>
>tfw one of those amazing raiders who everyone loves
>tfw you don't even raid you just aren't retarded
>tfw begged to come to random peoples raids
>tfw you sit in dal all day and maximize those IPH
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I almost finished my paper on nighthold boss mechanics
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>>165913014
fuck off cuckold
>>
>top dps in my guild since forever
>nerfed today
>4 new well equipped recruits coming today as well

Should I just say I feel sick and don't want to raid today? I'm probably going to go down like 3 spots in the meters and I don't wanna go through that suffering
>>
>>165912734
it's 3:43 AM
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>>165912910
>projecting
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>>165913086
Post name and realm.
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tfw to smart to finish nighthold
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>>165913086
Name so I can look your armory up and see the mount or you're a faggot and a liar, and a double faggot McShitfart.
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worgen wife
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>>165913037
no no, nighthold not cuckold
>>
>>165913134
>>165913164
are you guys retarded? mythic isn't even out yet you dumb shitters
>>
>login
>afk in dal for 20 min
>flask expires
>augment rune expires
>food buff expires
>log off

what the fuck is there to even do in this game
>>
JUST SPENT 4 HOURS AND 45 MINUTES TO CLEAR FUCKING NORMAL NIGHT HOLD

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
>>
>>165913385
is that good or bad?
>>
warlockbros are affli or demo better after the affli nerf and demo buff?
>>
>>165913640
pretty sure affliction
>>
>>165913709
warcraftlogs shows affli and demo pretty even on most bosses though, demo might even be ahead
>>
How are sps doing on Nighthold? Decent? Good? Deadweight?
>>
>leveling shadow priest
>doing dungeon

I've literally never had less fun.

Is there an aoe build or something help I'm losing my mind
>>
>>165913385
same but im spending 20 minutes before all bosses as germans speak something because i joined a german pug..
>>
>>165913572
Good; it has more bosses than EN, and goes quicker. It means easy mode is easy, as expected.
>>
so i haven't done any of the nighthold attunement (i am attuned to arcway and cos tho) but im inside and killing stuff

hmm
>>
>get to tich/auger
>every group dies


REEEE
>>
>>165913985
Shadow priests only get fun after 860ish and 10k+ haste.

In low level dungeons specially they're easily the worst class.
>>
>>165914048
You haven't done any attunement because there is not any attunement. You can walk in as a fresh 110.
>>
>>165914113
why was EVERYONE telling me i had to do all the nightborn quests?
fucking hell
>>
>>165914127
I can't find it, but a dev tweeted to someone asking if you needed to be attuned that there was no attunement needed.

Everyone was playing with you so you wouldn't come with them.
>>
>>165909206
>>165908934
You were supposed to use void torrent as soon as possible when s2m was good and you could reach 3 void torrents relatively easily, because not using it meant wasting a huge cooldown and a bunch of seconds of voidform.
With the new surrender to madness, it depends on how long you can stay in vodiform. If you stay less than 60 seconds, use it when you are going to die. More than 60 but less than 120, use it asap and then when you are going to die, and so on. You should also know if you can use dispersion to gain 6 seconds or if you'll need it for mechanics.
>>
>>165914096
Thank you, friend. That puts my mind at ease.

Just couldn't for the life of me think of a way to do reasonable damage in most of these situations.
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>stop receiving lucky procs with alchemy/titanforge gear/bonus rolls
>4 legendaries in the past week across 2 characters
My luck is like inverted or something. I ain't complaining but something weird is going on
>>
>tfw dying on trilliax heroic
fun boss
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>>165914416
>do mythics every day and heroics in between
>do every emissary every day
>kill world bosses and rares
>still have no lego on any alt
>"dude your pity counter will tick any day now"
>>
>120k token
end this meme
>>
>>165914267
Yeah it's completely normal, everything dies too fast to ramp up damage and the spec is ridiculously dependent on artifact traits (mass hysteria is the sole reason the spec works)

Maybe level in disci if you'd rather I think you'll actually kill things faster that way. I leveled in shadow and it was pretty miserable.
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>>165914487
>6days played
>no legendaries
>guildies making fun of you over rng
It's not my fault guise
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>tfw 6coins
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>>165914575
>tfw mage alt isn't even 110 and has a legendary
>and won't reach 110 any time soon because mages are shit boring
step it up m8
>>
>>165914575
>6 days played
I didn't receive my first legendary until I was at 24 days played.
>>
>>165914575
>8 days played
>3 beyond shitty legendaries
>actually only use one because the other 2 legit give me almost no benefit
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>create Nighthold group
>"885+ Nighthold NM - LINK HELYA CURVE"
>mfw get a bunch of shitters whispering me what a piece of shit and an asshole I am
>>
>>165914841
post angry chat logs
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>Two players with matching Star Signs must pair up and stand on top of each other to remove the debuff
>If players with different Star Signs intersect, they will detonate, causing a Grand Trine
>If a player's Star Sign debuff expires without having been removed, they will detonate, causing a Grand Trine
>Grand Trine deals extremely heavy damage to all players, and leaves a stacking debuff that increases all damage taken by surviving players by 200% for 2 minutes
>>
1-3 Hunter
4-6 DH
7-9 DK
0 uninstall
>>
>>165914841
>being that desperate for attention
>>
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YESSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>165915201
shit options
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>returning to game to try nighthold
>decide to do some EN to refresh myself on my class
>get rejected for an hour by even the lowest EN normal groups

I thought at least one group would want me, but I guess not. Hope you're all having fun with the Nighthold.
>>
>>165915502
>google the item
>obligatory wow forums thread complaining about skimpy gear

But the amount of sexy gear has been going down further and further each expansion. All the slutmogs are the same low res shit from BC and vanilla as always.
>>
>>165915617
That's what happens when you skip out on months of character progression
>>
Why do FemHumans wear such slutty underwear? All other females wear normal stuff.
>>
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every expansion I get roped into doing mythic raids because I don't suck + I'm a healer and I've been tired of doing progression raiding for fucking years(after ICC) but I'm too much of a fucking cuck ass faggot to tell my guilds that I'm not having fun and just want to do normal/heroic and only end up stopping after everyone stops playing after the end of the expac and I roll a new character on a different server

basically, how do I find a guild that isn't interested in doing mythic raids, but still gets normal/heroic done? also how do I leave a guild without sounding like an asshole, I really like these guys I'm just sick of mythic raiding
>>
>>165915634
you're wrong though
this is a recolor of a DH set which is skimpy
>>
im looking to start fresh with new char rolling horde, what server/guild?
>>
Thoughts on Nighthold?
>>
>>165915645
I guess you're right. I figured 867 ilvl would be good enough for normal EN though, especially when groups were asking for a minimum of 840.
>>
how hard is spellblade heroic
>>
?? what did blizzard mean by this ??
>>
>>165911770
crafting, world bosses, dungeons, pvp
>>
>>165915929
they're giving welfare shit so you don't spend a week at level cap wondering why you're even playing when you're so far behind
>>
>>165915517
kys
>>
>>165915929
Is it 800k before crit?
Also does it proc hot streak for mages?
>>
>>165912501
nice tmorph
too that's the only way you'll ever get your hands on that mount, at least until you can solo nighthold in about 3 expansions :^)
>>
>>165915717
I'm in the same spot anon

I'm pretty comfy just clearing HC with our small 10-12 people raid but they want to expand and start mythic asap
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>can't even get a group to do that "W"Q inside nighthold
Fuck this. Minmaxing becoming mainstream in videogames was a mistake.
>>
>>165916324

>not inviting shit players is minmaxing

right on
>>
>>165916131
>before crit
It can't crit.
>>
>>165916401
>projecting
ebin :DDD
>>
someone was saying you could get essences for the legendary upgrades from world quests. which ones? I have yet to see a quest that rewards it.
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>6 corrupted essences away because dude rng lmao
>will never get this done because guild is sick of EN
>will forever be stuck behind everyone else
epic
>>
>>165916671

he meant caches
>>
>>165916671
emissary caches
>>
How's your nighthold grinding going so far lads?

33/50 titan essences
9/20 nightshard
1/1 core but 0/1 tome
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>try to start a pug for nighthold
>invite a few guildies
>open the gates to normies
>after a stressful 30 minutes get a group of people
>wipe once and all leave at first boss

never again
why do people do this it's pointless effort and stress
>>
>>165916721
>>165916727

cool, thanks
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>it's another Blizz puts mythics into the quest chain episode
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>>165915502
FUCK YOU
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>>165916758
congrats, you've figured out why PuGs have retarded requirements
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>2 empowerment relics
>full mastery build
>sephuz heroes every 30 secs
>meme starfall spec
>mfw 1.4 mil dps on Skorpyron
>>
whats the most effective way to level now?
im currently grinding a spriest and i feel like chaining dungeons isnt effective after 55 anymore
>>
Fire or arcane for nighthold?
>>
>>165917105
stop being a dpscuck - a ramp-up dpscuck to boot - and heal
get instant queues and watch the xp roll in
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>>165917151
frost
>>
>>165917052
i did enjoy being in power of heal cucks and tanks that have always dominated me in the past... eheheheh.. the power of the last spot..
>>
how far did you get in heroic nighthold anons
>>
>Tanking timewalking Gundrak
>healer dies to fish
>blames me for overextending
>mfw he's pandaren

of course
>>
>It's a "Alliance outnumber you 3 to 1 so they're now PvP champs" episode

why do they do this every time?
>>
>>165917152
of course i que as a healer, anon pls

but the ammount of xp im getting now doesnt seems as high as in wod for instance
>>
>>165917283
Male pandaren always seem to be toxic
>>
i have never met a male human monk who wasnt a douchebag
>>
>tfw you only got 6/7 mythic before CE
just kill me dudes...
>>
>>165917535
i have never met a male draenei who wasnt utterly brainded
>>
>dh tank in timewalking

if we die we have to walk back from the start of the instance I literally do not have time to watch you die over and over again.

>double jump glide over a pack
>we have to either sit and watch him die or run through it to go help him
>"wtf ninja pull"
get me out of here
>>
Anyone for timewalking on alliance EU?

We could even become fwends n do mythic +
>>
>>165917620
yea
>>
Where the fuck is the nighthold? Isn't it that huge spooky castle in the broken shore?
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>>165906259
Some poor kids cant own this helm or something? Why are they hate this set. Actually it looks nice.
>>
>>165917687
have you even played this expansion
>>
>>165917620
hi
>>
I want to play retail again, but I have no means of getting game time.

What do I do?
>>
>>165917697
>enabling blizzard's jewery
>>
>>165906183
So much gay belfs -_-
>>
>>165917742
surveys
>>
>>165915929

(you) got it from where?
>>
>>165917742
ask to be a slave to some tranny here that will probably use you everyday and not let you enjoy the game
all of this while farming gold to pay for you next month
>>
>>165917742
if you have no means of getting game time, then you don't play

this is literally the dumbest question ever asked
>>
>>165917846

EXPLAIN
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Can someone from Argent Dawn invite me to group, i wanna troll some gays from goldshire.
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>>165917907
well i use prize rebel, make like $5 a day sometimes
usually around $20 a week if i "push" it (its really fucking easy)
>>
>>165917852

World boss, there's 2-3 up this week
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>>165917927
Fuck off you russkie bastard
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>>165918025
Ha-ha, some tranny goldshire "female" spotted!
>>
SLABHIDE DROP YOUR FUCKING MOUNT YOU STUPID DRAGON RETARD REEEEE
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>>165917927
when the fire debuff thing was happening people got banned for disturbing roleplayers with it. argent dawn is a horrible place.
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>>165917935
>i make $20 a week

you could do a paper round and earn like 5 times more for less effort
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>>165917935
>>165917942
>>
if i don't get shoulders of command as my next legendary i'm actually going to kill myself
>>
>>165918306
i dont think you understand how low effort these surveys are , i dont have to leave my house or my computer, just put one on the second monitor and fill it out on my own time
>>
>>165918136
This gays is not even roleplayers, im trolling them from time to time, but mostly they just ignoring me.
>>
>>165918403
with a paper round you gotta walk around your block once a day and it looks okay on your cv when you get your first real job :^)
>>
>do weekly quest
>get 885 feet with a socket
>earlier got a 940 legendary

good day lads
>>
>>165915929
Wow, wish i had this one too.
>>
how do you guys make good amounts of gold?

Currently I'm only making more or less 500g per week by doing old raids, I don't have legion yet by the eay.
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>>165918640

>do Wardens quests
>940 legendary
>it's Sephuz
>do weekly timewalking
>get shitty chest that I can't use
>go to raid
>go 1/5 on rolls
>go 1/5 on drops
>can't use either
>my literal face when
>>
>>165918640
>get cloak from mythic+ cache
>get another cloak from world boss
>win cloak from bonus roll on EN
>get legendary cloak from another boss on the same EN
this was a few months ago but still
>>
>>165917742
chaturbate
>>
>>165919175
kek this
>>
>>165918640
Titanforged Convergence of Fates from Timewalking box

HOLLA
>>
>>165919379
>convergence of reddit

nobody is jealous of you
>>
>>165910818
>SnD outlaw

my nigga
>>
What's the reward from the archeology quest these two weeks?
>>
So there are now two world bosses?

>>165919507
This
http://www.wowhead.com/item=131744/key-to-narthalas-academy
>>
>>165919507

some meme keys that are not even a toys

would NOT do
>>
>>165919507
some shitty key that gives you access to several 10man raid bosses that rewards Headmaster/Headmistress title at the end
nothing special
>>
Is Draenor a good server to play on?
>>
>>165919851
US or EU
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>Went from doing consistent 480k ST dps to 420k as shadow
Well, fuck
>>
>pug N guldan to 3%
>next pull
>server shutdown in 15 minutes
>>
So is Nighthold worth coming back to? I quit after EN was cleared in less than a day lmao
>>
>>165920128
ok
>>
Why are there so many annoying questlines in this expansion? I don't want to run all these dungeons and raids a million times, just looking at my quest log makes me want to die.
>>
>>165920139
haha thanks
>>
>>165920005
>I'm going to dip under 400k

Haha fuck that I'm rerolling
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>>165920147

>even Profession levelling has questlines
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So who here /4pc/
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Cutting this shit kinda close fuck.
>>
>>165920147
>I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME WITHOUT PLAYING THE GAME, WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD????
>>
>>165919980
Draenor-EU

It seems like a very good PvE server for horde side.
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>>165920342
>YESSSSSSSSSS
calm down reddit, the only reason you got that mount is because everyone else already has it
>>
>rolling restarts
>needed to hand in the emissary quest

You
Fucking
lhlkashflksl
>>
>>165920432
Not on my server shit. I think I only got this one because one of the crystals wasn't on the handynotes thing way out on a cliff almost off the map.
>>
>>165920487
>rolling restarts
>every server goes down and comes back up at the same time
>>
>nighthold is supposed to last us until August
Woah..........
>>
nighthold>en>dog shit>eating puke>tov
>>
>>165905536
Mage
>>
>>165920542
Did you forget SoO and HFC brul?
>>
i miss cata...
>>
Anyway to make good looking undead warriors with the transmogs?
>>
>>165920786
T10 best tier
>>
>>165920786
race change to a race that doesn't have exposed bones and bent armor
>>
>>165920741
i liked warlords more than cata not even joking
>>
Can't zone to guldan after reset

epic
p
i
c
>>
>>165921148
you're chewing through your content too fast good goy, if you keep it up you won't need to be subbed next month!
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well lol looks like i don't have to kill myself after all
>>
>>165921327
>blood elf
>female blood elf
>BM hunter
you should anyway
>>
>>165921327
see >>165921397
>>
>>165905380
Teeth shape changes from spiky to blunt after he is incinerated.
>>
>>165921397
>>165921425
just mad i have the best legendary in the game right now
this is shadow satyr boots tier.
and they CAN'T nerf this like they did to me last time, it's mathmatically impossible

in 5 hours when my legendary research finishes i can use them with the legendary boots..
>>
>>165920226
>mounting made easy
>>
>>165921650
>boots
>not belt
enjoy grinding for that belt then
>>
>>165921327
I got that on my alt, then 10 minutes later I got the ring.
>>
>>165921650
>jealous of a fem belf hunter player
have the memes transcended reality or am i in a wrong timeline?
>>
I would love to see the numbers on players who have actually stepped foot in the new Karazhan.

I'd bet it's really low.
>>
>>165921679
i think the boots are incredibly under-rated.
on single target anyway.
i'll test, in 5 hours, how well the boots and shoulders synergise.
>>
>>165921774
math's been already done m8
boots are shit.
Mantle+Belt is the only viably legendary combination. without those two you fall off hard in dps
>>
>>165921740
I would love to see how many tried it once then never went back because it's really not enjoyable
>>
>>165905253
The Elysium sub isn't biting so I'll post here for you fucking retailbabies.

could you guys give me a list of all the devs that have left the WoW team and what they're doing now?

also did YOU guys know about this?

http://www.bonfirestudios.com/

It's a startup by Rob fucking Pardo.

inb4 'who is Rob Pardo?'
>>
>>165921979
do your own work you dumb fucking mongbaby
>>
>>165921906
well i guess i can't win with you huh
either way, i didn't get two defensive legendaries like most people do.
>>
>>165921572
Not really, his bottom jaw is the spiky part and its no longer connected once he is incinerated.

If you look at his top teeth as he yells they are the same model
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>>165921650
>2016 + 1
>he thinks retail wow means anything

dude I could open a fucking blingtron and get a legendary right now in the middle of an lfr boss fight.
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>>165922086
thing is:mantle of command on its own actually isnt that much of a dps increase. it only shines in conjunction with belt or ring(but worse). boots and mantle do not synergize at all given that you should spec into killer cobra anyways
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Is 450kish single target enough to do Heroic Nighthold? I started playing late as fuck and am only 880 with garbage tier trinkets.
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>>165922259
>>>/global/rules/11
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i see redditnilla is raiding us again
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>buys token
>uses it for subscription
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>>165922259
So apparently private servers, their community and everything about them is so good... so superior to retail that you have to come to /wowg/ TO FUCKING WOWG OUT OF ALL PLACES LMFAO to recruit people to play it?

(You) now hit the road Jack.
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>>165922596
imagine being this guy lmfao
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>>165907707
>he didn't have 5 split raidclears
casual
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>>165920342

Congrats! Don't let all the assholes who do nothing but try to drag people down when they're happy about something get you down.
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>tfw our ilvl 860 pug group made it all the way to Tichondrius before stopping for the night
Well I feel accomplished
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>play elysium for a few hours
>get bored, remember how it was just auto attacking shit and it never gets better
>log into wow
>got CE
>got bis
>next day
>nighthold is fun as fuck with neat mechanics
hmm
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>>165922890
>things that didn't happen
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jelly?
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>>165921327
>female bloodelf

numale detected
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>>165922940
you are autism
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Why is there an anon in every thread avatarfagging with a nelf dh?
What type of NEET has time to make all those anyway?
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>>165922984
shut out
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>>165923002
shes not NEET
shes respected in many communities, you are a noob here
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>>165923115
hes a sperg
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>>165923159
shut TEH EFF OFF noobs you are noobs here
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>>165923197
whats next you gonna post your useless naxxramas tokens?
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Give me one good reason I shouldn't faction switch my warrior to become a fem-Orc
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>>165923481
You should value your sanity
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>>165922596
>shoplifter angry at people because they're paying an up-to-date version
haha go back to your f2p game full of russian, brazillian and chink children who can't afford the real deal faggot
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>>165922839
>>>/tumblr/
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>>165923603
>jealous of a quest item - not even the fucking ring itself - from the bar none second worst expansion
lol
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>>165923603
it doesnt even do anything, its literally wasting bagspace
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>>165923663
>>165923671
holy shit mad as fek, yeah I have LEGENDARY MAP you dont jewl muc?
kek
part of thre Wow histy is in my hands
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>>165923802
you're right, the worst part of wow's history is in your hands
may as well have dug your hands into a pile of dog shit but whatever
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you are noob, I have legendary itmes the are removed from tge hame
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>>165923603
post more rare items
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>>165923802
post your legendary girlfriend/boyfriend achievement
oh wait.. LMAO
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>rogue gets a relic I need on my prot alt
>ask him for it
>he puts it in the no-trade box
>tell him to put it in the trade ones
>"lol it's soulbound"
>check his dps
>sixty (60) thousand at level 110 and 860 ilvl
sounds about right
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>>165923953
post ur phylactery
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>>165923956
>>165923967

thats worth millions, check it
only few own em in EU
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Nightborne = French?

They act like they're turbo beings or some shit like that, think they're better than everything, and hate heresy and peasants.
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>>165909401
shamans just got buffed 1 and 4 days ago and nobody is going to be doing heroic EN

set it to nighthold to find out where enhance really lands atm
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>>165924010
>sixty (60) thousand at level 110 and 860 ilvl

how.jpg

I remember doing that much at 660 in draenor LFR, without proper enchants, rotation, anything.
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>>165924049
whoa....
never seen since wod... im definitely jelly...

post more!!
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>>165924089
Yes, even their names are french.
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>>165924089
they even got le good wine
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>>165923953

>only one

keksimus maximus
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>>165924089
And when the Legion came back they immediately surrendered.
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>>165924261
because they got millions of them killed in the last war and couldn't get their numbers back up to stand a chance for this one
>General Thalyssra
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>>165924197
34 removed epics
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>>165924428
34 removed garbage*
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>>165924490
dont yoing the conversation if you dont know what we are talking about rookie
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>>165924428
post your phylactery you stupid cnut ]
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>>165924578
dont you say names to me like that shitter I kill you
I only reveal what i choose to reveal noob
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>wotlk timewalking as caster
>random mob polymorphs you
>fear
>spell locked
>silence
>shitton of immunity effects or random knocks that last for couple of seconds

How did every single caster not kill themselves during Wotlk what the fuck
>>
going to boost shadow priest in 5 minutes. Wish me luck !
>>
>Mexican joint in town is running a first birthday promo of. Free burrito
>get going to collect it, after lunchtime rush
>check fb at some lights on my way in
>place is closed until 5pm now because it was so busy

I can't wait wait for the fucking wall to be built bros
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>>165924804
other casters used poly or dampening, high resist helped, dampening was a thing
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>>165924804

Long ago, in the before-times, people actually used crowd control (spells like polymorph, sap, etc) in order to neutralize problem mobs.
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>if you still need gear from an instance you are not high enough ilvl to do that instance
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>>165924865
>act like a literal nigger
>"dude I hate other niggers"
A M E R I C A N S
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>>165924886
>>165924960
>CC
>in wotlk ever
mopbabies detected
>>
Guys, could you stop responding to that confirmed wotlk baby that posts all that useless garbage "rares"?
He's a literal neet by the way.
Thanks.
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>>165924841
DONT DO IT ANON
DONT FALL FOR THE MEME
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>>165925051

>I didn't start playing until after LFG was added

Alright, run along now
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why are there no guilds in the OP?
what guilds are even alive now? im looking for one on kazzak since i just started fresh again
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>>165925215
>being so bad you actually needed to use CC in wotlk dungeons
you can't make this shit up
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>raging/necro/fortified week
>go for court +12
>get to enforcer part before second boss
>mage tells the tank to tank the enforcer next to a corner for easy LoS
>lol no he tanks it in the middle of a street with the nearest LoS spot being 20 yards away
>two other dps have no idea about what LoS even is
>"healer what are you doing???"
>he expects me to heal through a raging enforcer with fortified
>wipe but manage to kill it
>next enforcer is correctly tanked next to a corner
>tank and two of three dps just stand there
>have to kite the last 10% with mage buddy since everyone else died to fel eruption through tranquillity
>mfw

MoS with a dumbass melee group wasn't fun either.
>hey there's this raging dude that has a slam attack with a cast time
>melee stand in it and get 1 shot from full hp

Still better than skittish though.
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>>165925263
>why are there no guilds in the OP?

They are either dead, reddit guilds or both.
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>>165925312
skittish might as well not be an affix if your tank isn't retarded
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Friendly reminder that /wowg/ is a Horde thread and Alliance pissbabies are not welcome

Blood Elf players can fuck off too
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>>165925363
i just wanted a chill group of people to raid with... ;_;
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>>165925156
holy shit your are jealous noob
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>>165925449
>"chill group of people"
>wowg

brul.
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NRFB unopened CM egg, mount inside, jelly?
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Does this trinket have unlimited range as long as the target is in your view?
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>>165925525
my choices are either raid with normies or deal with the massive autism that is wowg guilds
what other alternatives are there?
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What race/class do black people play?
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where are all the cute fem pandas? qt bears pls respond.
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>>165925636
>>>/gaschamber/
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>>165925625
night elf rogues
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>>165925621
point take.

I'd rather play with wowg too.
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check this caged pet that cannot be caged, prbly only one in the world, jelly?
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>>165920786

doomplate dungeon set from tbc and a skull-themed sword+shield.
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>>165924089
>Nightborne = French?

So goblins are New Jerseyans?

Worgen are Brits?

Alliance is the US?

What does that make the night elves then? Can't be Chinky Chonks since the pandaren took that already.
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>>165925768
>caged pet that cannot be caged
what did he mean by this?
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>doing TW with a twink set all gem'd out
>never pull ahead of the tank, allow tank to hit stuff first so i dont get aggro, patiently wait if someone died and is walking back to their body
>STILL manage to get kicked somehow

I've been kicked from pugs before so I normally do a "dont piss off anybody for any reason" attitude when pugging to give them no reason to.

I'm not sure if that guys lying or not, since i no-life this game I've never been "randomly" removed.

I was doing 50% of the groups total damage with my twink set.

even if i wore normal gear I still end up doing 40% of a normal pugs combined damage

i... just... i dont get it. no matter how perfectly i do mechanics and let the tank/healer go at their own pace people still find a reason to do this shit.

im currently at 4261 TW bosses killed and this has happened more than once, a lot of those were for pulling ahead of the tank/doing damage too early so i out-aggro tank and even AFTER i addressed these issues by not doing anything of the sort I still get kicked.

Is he right? was this a blizzard issue or was he just lying? AFKing and doing a wrong rotation to level myself to the groups DPS is not something I want to do, ffs i even give the tank 2-3 seconds to secure aggro.
>>
What video guides shoiuld I be looking at for Nighthold? Fatboss shit was published a year ago...
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>>165923596

>SOMEONE CALLED ME OUT ON BEING A DICK FOR NO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEESON
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>165926228
dont event start with me
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>>165925215
>>165925291

He's right. Other than a week after the expansion, WOTLK dungeons were fucking easy as shit, other than maybe the one with the Nerubians that would ONE SHOT your tank with a single spell if it wasn't kicked or reflected.
>>
>All the madfags in my guild who are pissed they didn't do the Insurrection questline and didn't get the mount

Enjoy putting your Masquerade on manually suckers!
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>>165926276
Daily reset resets all instances and kicks the groups out.
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>>165926276

Why would he lie? To spare your feelings?
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>>165926412
>not remembering Heroic Oculus
oh boy
>after doing it for a daily in full pug
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>>165926503
ohhhh i see.. never knew it did that with TW dungeons since they dont have daily lockouts like their heroic counterparts. really stupid it happens to TW dungos since, well, their isnt anything to "reset" since u can run them over and over again without any lockout.
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>>165926412
the spellflingers in old kingdom
their spell did a flat 80% of your max health on heroic, shit was fun to reflect as a tank warrior

>>165926597
people avoided occulus because it was a long-ass dude vehicles lmao instance, not because it was hard
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>>165926412
The Ulduar dungeons were fucking bullshit.
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>>165926725
>people avoided occulus because it was a long-ass dude vehicles lmao instance, not because it was hard
it was hard in pug esp while they didn't scale with ilvl because retards didn't know what their buttons do
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>>165926742
halls of stone has always been a joke

halls of lightning is only shit if your tank is too retarded to mind the buff the first boss gives to trash packs, or retards pull the entire room just before loken

loken himself actually hit pretty hard on the first weeks of the expansion though
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>>165926814
>loken himself actually hit pretty hard on the first weeks of the expansion though
there were global gamestats for the game on the wow websire and loken was top player killer every day for the first week mb longer
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>>165926814
>>165926725

have to remember it's all relative tho

WotLK was a fucking joke compared to TBC. Normals or heroics.
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>>165926597

Oculus wasn't hard, it was gimmicky.
>>
WoTLK was better than BC and should have been the last Expansion.
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>>165926993
It was hard because retards didn't know what drakes did.
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>>165926993
if 'hard dungeon' means 'group has a low chance to finish the dungeon' Oculus was THE hardest dungeon in WotLK for a long time.
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>>165926951
some TBC heroics were outright retarded

>LF3M MgT/SH need healer and 3 mages
>>
>got a sword from tw
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>>165927502
bullshit...1 CC was enough for TBC dungeons...more than 1 was good but not mandatory...never seen any1 ask specifically for 3 CC on his heroic group
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>>165927721
>i've never seen one so they don't exist
nice """argument""" buddy
>>
>Ana-mouz didn't drop the skimpy leather armor
FUCK
>>
ANA MOUZ UP US
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is it possible to upgrade this cache by getting X number of normal / heroic kills
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>doing Kirin Tor barrels quest
>addon auto marks all the barrels for me
>still miss 2 cuz no attention span
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>>165927840
yes
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>play on Emerald Dream RP-PvP server because RPing and PvP events are the only way I can have fun anymore
>Blizzard ruined even that with Legion with thier new sharding tech
>Can't even hold events anymore because half the people there start randomly popping in and out of existence
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>>165927840
no. TW cache is normal diff for everybody.
you can upgrade the cache you get from champ missions. for EN the number of kills required was 10.
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>>165927775
ok scrap that part...are you really claiming that MGT or any other heroic requires more than 1 CC?
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>pve realm
>go to do bareback brawl
>at least 15 ppl there
>good mix of horde and ally
>everyone attacking the animals
>nobody doing any pvp
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>Tell guild to run the fuck away for Storm of the Destroyer
>Gul'dan casts it
>Catches 2/3 of the guild off guard and kills them

Jesus, all you had to do is listen

The Gul'dan fight is probably the best fight they have come up with in a long time. Has an important feel to it, some awesome looking mechanics, and isn't a clusterfuck like Archimonde
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>>165922143
You're wrong. Uppers are clearly pointy.
Not that it fucking matters.
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>>165928071
>requires
jesus christ get off this message board and go back to school, your reading comprehension is way off
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>>165905380
yes, we know, gul'dan has been dead since he decided to poke around in the tomb of sargeras in warcraft II, that was like two decades ago

this faggot is just a generic orc warlock they pulled out of their asses and slapped the name "gul'dan" on it to pretend we're fighting someone who matters as a tier's endboss
>>
>>165928093
World pvp isn't fun when tanks dominate.
>>
is the ilvl for high mythic+ dungeons increased with the release of nighthold as well?
>>
I turned in the timewalking quest this mornign with 6 seals, are they lost 5eva?

Thanks in advance
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>tfw the main problem with the game is one that is literally never mentioned by the playerbase and constantly goes unnoticed
>the problem is so large it even fucks Blizzard in the ass and you have no idea why they even let it keep happening

pride? ignorance? incompetence? I don't know
>>
>>165928432
This absolutely has to be bait or you literally didn't play a second of Warlords (Including the Intro Scenario)
>>
>>165928563
ikr? The game is just too old. We need a wow 2. but will people be willing to part with their cosmetics to move to a new game?
>>
>>165928563

(You)
>>
>>165928660

I agree with you, but that isn't actually the main problem with the current WoW, just a symptom of it.
>>
>>165928736
Then what is the main problem?
And don't say hot keys because the combat system is a result of how old the game is.
>>
>>165928563
Remember which sha the pandaren emperor failed to contain/conquer?
>>
>Want to do dungeons and raids
>don't like drama

I'll just watch the cutscenes at YT and just get exalted with factions and do solo content instead.

>LFR

That's where the drama really is, white hot and boiling with the rage of a thousand screaming dark suns.

>Join a guild

Falls apart after I join one, and very slowly.
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>>165928631
FILLER
I
L
L
E
R

EXPANSION

WoD may as well have never happened. Other than Gul'dan escaping to the main timeline - which is easily retconned with "oops turns out i didn't die after all, was just trapped in some remote room consorting with demons" - name 1 (ONE) thing to prove me wrong.
Maraad dying? lmao come on dude he's just a generic draenei paladin, last time he was relevant was in the TBC trailer, blizzard would still simply not using him for anything ever
>>
>>165926126

Night Elves have a mixture of greek and thai architecture so take your pick I guess
>>
>>165928784

The main problem is the server imbalance and population issues.

Seriously. I went and counted yesterday and NA alone has like 130 realms, 95% of which are completely dead. The merges didn't do anything and there's 1 entire server out of them all that has a 50:50 split.

Blizzard needs to start recognizing this is an MMORPG and stop actively fucking killing it with shit realm experiences and tech like sharding. No one seems to understand this, though.
>>
Any addon to easily switch between profiled spec talent sets?
>>
>>165928947
Just because it was a filler expansion doesn't mean its plot is irrelevant, especially when trying to argue that the one relevant thing from it was meaningless.
>>
>>165928943
>I'll just watch the cutscenes at YT and just get exalted with factions and do solo content instead.
>playing an mmo to play solo
may as well just play another game

>That's where the drama really is
confirmed for never actually having played the game

LFR is purposely designed so people can streamroll through it, people only talk to mock the timing on bloodlust/timewarp or if the planets align and the whole raid has an aneurysm at once, say, by all staying inside the room when il'gynoth closes the tree

>Falls apart after I join one, and very slowly.
seems they all had you joining in common, really makes me think...
>>
>>165928994
Ah, yes. No one addresses this because they hate waiting for mobs to respawn
>>
>>165928994
blizzard is too afraid to merge servers because turboautists would just go "THIS IS OBJECTIVE PROOF THE GAME IS DYING" so they do the next best thing and merge them without actually merging them via sharding

also there's money to be made via server transfers
>>
>>165929148
>people only talk to mock the timing on bloodlust/timewarp

This triggers me like a mother fucker.
>>
>>165929074
>plot is irrelevant
except it is
it was all just a self-contained long-ass ride with no purpose except to go "oops gul'dan is back now"
>>
are there any wowg(reddit) guilds on kazzak?
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>when a previously shit weapon trait becomes your best one and you passed on all the mythic relics
>>
>>165928994
this.

I have a horde character on a 34:1 A:H ratio server. Usually 180-240 active players horde side. highest I saw was 310, lowest was below 100.


Meanwhile on slow weekdays argent dawn has >2300 players and on weekends more than 3500
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>>165925409
nah skittish is a big deal if you have no rogue or hunter and your tank isn't a paladin or monk, especially if they're less geared or has less artifact traits than the dps they're tanking for

the big thing is melee dps just need to be able to to just walk a few feet away to buy some time when they do pull off

and it can also depend like I know that my bear alt has no issues if he can pop lunar beam or rage of the sleepyhead on the pull, but if I dont have one or the other up, it can be a lot harder to keep threat
>>
>>165928947
you literal FUCKING RETARD, Illidan had Gul'dan's SKULL IN HIS HAND IN OUTLAND.

Even if you paid attention to absolutely fucking nothing in tbc you should at least know that, jesus christ. They needed a new one because of how IRREPARABLY FUCKING DEAD he was.
>>
>>165928843
Sha of Lust

Lust for Pandaren Girls
>>
>>165929763
>oh that skull? lmao it was just a piece of fucking rock i carved in the spare time infused with my essence
ez
>>
>>165930102
You didn't... Play warcraft III at all, did you.
>>
uhhh why are my order hall resources just being eaten when i try to do artifact research?

i just hit 110 and used an AK20 tome and now i can't research any more
>>
>>165928518
>>165928518
>>165928518

please respond
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>>165928518
F
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>>165929831
I've been infected with that sha for years, send help lads
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>do LFR
>on Cenarius
>nobody pulls the casters before the boss
>Raid Leader: "Nobody pulled, first time since release. I'm proud of you all!"
>>
>tfw mom at McDonalds buying food
>tfw preparing my nighthold pug
>tfw this evening is gonna be awesome
>>
>>165930290
First 15 research levels are now instant, do you have an addon to auto-accept/turn-in quests?
>>
Is disc viable for dungeons?
>>
>>165930552
i cant tell if this is bait
>>
Anyone here unironically mains DH?
>>
>>165930694
Everything viable as long as you have 880+ gear.
If you're below this treshold, you can kys yourself.
>>
Why are fights being tuned around overgearing them? I don't remember this being a thing before Legion.
>>
>>165930763
How do you "ironically" main something?
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>>165930763
yes

ur upset we're topping the dps meters on every boss now? LOL
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What Vantus Runes should I sell to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ this week?

I am thinking Tichondrius. Seems like a lot of shittier guilds are getting stuck on him. Maybe throw in a healthy mix of Elisande and Gul'dan
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>>165931047

your mog is total garbage, not sure why you keep posting it?
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>>165929763
He knows OG Gul'dan is dead you fucking sperg, that's his entire point. The insufferably bad writing of alternate time line character retcons taints the original lore.
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>Not a single lego since fucking october despite dozens of m+ runs every single weeks
>Saved up chests for last 3 weeks in hopes for at least something even after it was revealed that they will get you 910
>Open everything
>20x835 and 1x845 items
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>>165931380
>lego

neck yourself dumb reddit shitter
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>Heroic High botanist Tel'arn
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>>165931362
It's not about whether he knows the original gul'dan is dead you moron

It's about the fact that he died for a reason and there's lore in WCIII revolving around him already being dead

Upon that, look at this fucking post. >>165930102 Look at how bad it is.

> The insufferably bad writing of alternate time line character
okay yeah sure you're doin perfect with that assertion
>retcons
the entire point of the second character is that it doesn't retcon anything.
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Which race has the best pussy?
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>>165931663
>he died for a reason
Remind me what that reason was, all I recall was "gul'dan opened the Tomb in wc2's ending, suddenly mad demons all over him, dead, meanwhile most of wc3 happens and for some reason his skull was brought by the demons to felwood".

And why didn't neo-Gul'dan also get slaughtered at the tomb?
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>>165931989
one can assume humans, elves, or possibly orcs.
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where is somewhere in legion that i can pull a fuckton of normal health mobs?
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>>165931645
explain?
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>>165931989
trick question, they don't, they're all barbie dolls down there

source: literally any model viewer that allows you to toggle underwear
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>>165932281
explain?
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How badly was your spec/class meme'd on?
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>>165932362
>Survival Hunter went from dead last to top
THERE IS NO END TO THIS MEMERY
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>>165932362
I know it's just 67 survi parses but this pic is made of pure undistilled memes
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I havent played in months and was thinking of getting back into wow. Im a ilvl858 ret and when i logged in today i was a little confused as to what to do. What should i be looking to do to get my ilvl up? Do i need to continue with withered training (that honestly bored me to tears) and m+ spam for gear whilst raiding EN once a week?
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>>165932582
>continue with withered training
>raiding EN
oh anon...
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>>165932653
Yeah its been a while. World quests dont seem to be offering any good ilvl loot, not too sure what to do. What is the ideal ilvl to be at now for current content and how does one get there?
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>>165932362
I play healer
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>>165929408
pls respond
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>>165932225
>gul'dan opened the Tomb in wc2's ending
Gul'dan abandoned kil'jaeden's orcish horde and fucked up all of the legion's plans because he wanted to absorb the power in the tomb.
He got it(ish), then the demons killed him because he was a gay traitor.

Illidan absorbed power from the skull at a later point.

>And why didn't neo-Gul'dan also get slaughtered at the tomb?

Because he didn't betray the legion.

Listen to that audio drama Tomb of Sargeras from like, August. It's actually really good and explains all this shit.
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>>165932763
>What is the ideal ilvl to be at now for current content
890+, with ahead of the curve for both helya and xavius

>and how does one get there?
get boosted by friends and/or be lucky enough to find a guild to boost you as a replacement for their members who are leaving this dying corpse of a game

if you can't, tough luck, hope you enjoy farming cheevos, mounts, pets and transmogs from old, soloable content :^)
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>>165932974
i got to 868 with a friend back when hEN was the thing to do, i had to leave the game due to work life catching up hard. come back towards close to 7.1.5 friends who i played with refuse to play with me because:
1.im a destro lock and they're practically useless in raids
2. you're too under geared anon.

so here i sit luckless,gearless, watching my bnet friendlist all in the same raid
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>>165932362
>tfw fdk
RET NERFS WHEN?
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>>165933289

''im a destro lock''

So just play Affliction or Demonology, gear up and stop bitching, it's really not rocket science
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>>165932362
>Demo
Literally all Chronomatic Anomaly. It's going to get nerfed now due to one fucking cheese fight because it scales retardedly with haste. Goddammit.
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boys, I'm ilvl 865, how do I quickly push myself over to 870 for the nighthold?
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>>165933573
By playing the game.
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>>165933438
not played destro lock since cata or warth, i do play afflic for pvp but feels fucking weird spamming dots in a boss fight, i guess ill just head back to pvp and enjoy my 1.2 mil chaos bolts.
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>>165932362
>Ret Paladin

I did shit last night but I usually spend a few weeks focusing on mechanics before really turning on the jets. Focusing on "big dick" dps the first few weeks is retarded since 95% of the wipes come from execution issues

Plus its hard as fuck to line Crusade up on some of these bosses without Convergence (Which I just got off Heroic last night)
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>transfer to Emerald Dream, the last server left where there's actual World PvP
>they demand I start roleplaying or they blacklist me from everything

It's not fair...
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>>165933573

if you have gold, BOEs drop in NH and some should be on your AH.

If you are an engineer make yourself some 880 goggles.

Farm mythics and m+
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umm hello where ids the entrance :DDD
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>>165934023
>join an RP server
>refuse to RP
Okay
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>>165917697
>Actually it looks nice.

It doesn't though, that's the thing. Say what you want about the Grinning Reaver being a cash shop item, at least that thing looks fucking awesome. The helm of the hungering cold looks lame.
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>>165932362
>actually using "Aggregate using Normalized Scores"
You fucked in the head boy?
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So how is Nighthold? (eufag here)
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>>165934157

I'm trying but it's so cringeworthy, I'm getting flashbacks to vanilla when I was in high school and my friends making fun of me for playing on RP servers.

Talking to someone on Discord about my RP backstory has got to be one of the toughest things I've ever done.
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>>165934807
I hope you like AoEing shit.
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>>165934807

only been in normal, but a lot easier than tov.

fun if your spec has options so you can change builds around per fight.
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>>165934992
not really

how hard are the bosses?
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>>165934940
Just do a gimmick yo.
I have an undead character that hates being seen as undead and will transform in to literally anything to not be the rotting corpse she is.
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>>165907707
My team raids on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Cleared norm in a pug on Tuesday though.
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Nerf holy paladin dps when? I was in one in a heroic dungeon where this guy was doing 600k on bosses. Unless that's poor talents for healing and you have to sacrifice that, even then I don't think any other healer comes close to such absurd dps potential.
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>>165935060
Only done it on normal thus far, going to heroic today but like the anon here said >>165935030 it's much easier than how ToV was initially. I'd say the difficulty increases when you reach Tichondrius.
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>>165932538
hes using normalized scores instead of per second amounts and there's 67 parses
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>>165935246
>made as fug about the dungeon going faster

lol?
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>>165931989
pandas hands down
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>>165909401
>>EN
>>EN
>>EN
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>check logs to see what nighthold damage is like
>mfw this
HOT DAMN
Power level bloat much?
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>>165935329
i thought frost mage would be good in NH?
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>>165907707

My raid days are Sunday/Monday.
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>>165911138
So basically it's because you don't like something, no one else should like it either? Go back to your safe space.
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>>165935246
>I was in a place where bosses are alive for less than wings and a 15% and any competent geared dps could pull upwards of 700k regardless of class with cd's up assuming they dont have high pickup time like demo

yeah though as artifact levels are increasing, their dps is getting really high, especially with chain of thrayn (this is the big part), but once wings ends, they really drop off, but they're still on par with lower end dps, hell they might actually be better than ferals right now
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>>165935429
It's an adds fight. You can cheese dot dps by purposely adding more adds to the fight
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>>165935429
>surprised that afflic has good aoe

check a single target boss man, dragons in EN was the exact same shit, but with hunters in the mix of afflic and fire too and the occasional shadow priest that wasnt even aoe'ing but their ST was just that good
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>835 wrists
>get legendary wrists after nighthold comes out
>tfw 105 ilevel increase
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how long does it take to clear normal nighthold? Guild is gonna run it tonight and I have about 4 hours free tonight. Average ilvl is 870, pretty competent
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>>165934940
play an undead without a jaw, problem solved
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>>165935790
It can be done in that timeframe, a few streamers with pug groups took 4 hours or less.
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>Dead
>Poof!
>30 Seconds until Resurrection
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>>165927978
ty anon

>>165927876
fuk u
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>>165935969
I don't know why they make you wait so long, that sort of shit makes tabbing out of the game a habit
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Guild says hi (and so do I :D)

nightwell now!
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>>165936090
Obviously in bgs and such makes sense but EH otherwise
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>>165936193
sup lammerhaj

do kill the things
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Are we gonna have another stat squish soon or are we going into dumb JRPG numbers?

Get ready for 20 million HP and 50,00,000 DPS next expansion, I guess.
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>>165936193
>those glorious goggles

how friend
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>>165935790
If your guild is not garbage, you should be able to clear it.

>>165935958
Those pugs were filled with 890+ players though.
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>>165936386
what's wrong with that?
can't handle big numbers?
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>>165936474
gazh'rilla vanilla quest googles, removed from the game
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>tfw forgot how bad applying to guilds is
i get they want to recruit competent players but do they really have to make the application process like a fucking job application
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should I switch havoc for spriest? I like how spriest are ranged and great dps but then again we already got 3 and I´m the only havoc in my guild
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>>165935429

>tfw thought my 1.4 mil dps on Skorpyron was good
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>>165936675
>describe what you can contribute with to our raiding enviroment
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>>165936672
Oh, found them. Carrot on a stick quest. Aren't you meant to get all the rewards for quests you completed, or is that just post-wardrobe?

>>165936675
It's pretty gross if you don't know people, desu.
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fucking pet battle gates on flacosaur mounts
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>>165936193
Shit now I want that camera. Back to BoreLords for me.
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>>165936675
Any decent guild just looks at your logs and that's it.
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How dead is this game?
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>At Blizzcon this year, Tomb came out recently and everyone is enjoying it but ready to see the teaser for 7.3
>The lights dim at the WoW panel at the appointed time
>A long shot of Argus from space slowly zooms in
>A narrator begins speaking in a familiar accent
>YOU THOUGHT WE WUZ GONE AFTER YOU KILLED DA THUNDA KANG
>BUT YOU DIDNT KNOW
>BEFORE THE EREDAR
>BEFORE THE LEGION
>ARGUS WUZ OUR WORLD
>AND WE GONNA TAKE IT BACK
>Massive red letters are superimposed over the planet and Fel Loas fly around the screen
>7.3. Zandalargus
How do you react?
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>frost dk is really good this patch guys
>but only if you use this build
>which only works if you have at least one of these specific legendaries
>and only when you get to stick to a target for like a minute
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>>165937780
I cheer
trollz r cool
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For the most part I don't play Horde, but the BE are invading Suramar so they can get their hands on a second Sunwell, right?
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>report guild mate for non rp name on rp server
>weeks later still has his stupid class name name

hmmm
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>>165937780
>Zandalargus
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>that one legendary that saved your character from being boring as fuck

Dreadlord's Deceit on my sub rogue
WPvP is now enjoyable until a fucking Tank or Hybrid class survives my memeburst
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>>165938037
No and no.

They are not invading Suramar, they are fighting the Legion. Also, belves are now powered by the original, untainted sunwell and and doesn't need the nightwell.

Also, the Nightwell works completely different from the sunwell. The state of nightborne/nightfallen/withered have little to do with high elves/blood elves/wretched
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WHY IS THIS GAME SO FUCKING SHIT

WHY EVEN HAVE MANA AS A FUCKING RESOURCE IF IT'S NEVER RELEVANT??!?!

Druid fucking spamming Sunfire and Moonfire for 2 FUCKING MINUTES STRAIGHT and didn't even drop below 70% mana.

His heals kept him up through my pathetic 1v1 damage.

This game is fucking beyond broken. I guess you fuckers don't care because as long as your precious raiding is safe, fuck the rest of the game, right?
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>>165938264

"fighting the bad guy" is often a pretense used to justify getting something you want. You're telling me having a second massive fount of mana wouldn't be useful?
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>>165938254
Sephuz
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>Ret
>Chain of Thrayn
>KJ's Burning Wish
>>
1-2 SP
3-4 warrior
5-8 elysium
9-0 another game
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>>165935475
>Geting memed
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>>165938541
>shadow priest

lmao why
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>>165938410
Druids will always be good because Druid players are the loudest, whiniest, and most entitled fucking class in the game. Look at who plays them. Women, furfags, and trannies.
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>>165938429
Blood elves are led by Lady Liadrin, she is one of the few truly "good" characters from the horde side.

And as I said previous: the nightwell is a completely different thing from the sunwell, also probably no blood elf want to depend on a different kind of drug. They suffered enough with the sunwell then with absorbing fel energy.
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>>165938567
cause i like them
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>nighthold opens up
>it drops ilvl 870 gear
>people demand ilvl 880 groups
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>>165938567
Wr'l-grfekklah-fathm.

>N'Zoth whispers: Be-fucking-cause.
>>
>prydaz is now the second best legendary for spriest
kys myself senpai
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>tfw enh sham

guess I should reroll
what's a fun class that isn't absolute shit?
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>>165938681
people have always demanded higher ilvl for everything
it doesn't help now with high artifact weapon weight and legendaries that people get artficially boosted around 15 ilvl
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>R-R-RAIDING TAKES SO MUCH SKILL NOW
>NOT LIKE VANILLA RAIDING AMIRITE?!?

Look at this, you fucking retards. Stop deluding yourselves. A raid boss in your precious dificulty raid is using a 5-man dungeon mechanic from Stonecore. A mechanic that is labeled as the most important of the fight.

The ONLY players left that are actually skilled are the top 100 guilds, and they clear this shit in a week. Why do you continue to delude yourselves into thinking this content isn't trash?

The entire WoW community right now has some amazing delusion going on. Stop pretending Legion is good. Stop pretending WoW isn't in a dire state.
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>tfw still no legendary
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>>165938681
>Not being at least 890
>6 months into legion
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>>165938619

I guess I just have a hard time believing people don't have ulterior motives. The reason the original SC1's writing was good was because there were no good or bad guy (aside from tassadar's group and the overmind), everyone was just a selfish asshole that wanted something.
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>>165938681
Yeah, that's sort of how it has always been. Have gear similar to what drops, then hope you get one of the three pieces out of the wing, or whatever.

>place drops X item level gear
>get people with X item level
>still barely meet base dps requirements

It's shit but not worth the effort of trying to get lesser geared players in.
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>>165938410
>as long as your precious raiding is safe, fuck the rest of the game, right?

This is the real reason the game is in decline

the extreme and enormously complete focus on Raiding and a complete disregard for everything else

Everything else is labelled as "Not content"

PVP? Not content
Dungeons? Not content
Pet battles? Not content
Professions? Not content
Scenarios? Not content
Reputations? Not content
A well made class hall questline for every class this expansion? Not content
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>>165938987
How hard is Vanilla raiding?
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>>165932538

Hey you fucking Hunter KEKS, why arent you playing melee yet?

PS the only thing that makes them so OP, is Helcarver + Butchery.
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>>165939074

Harder logistically speaking, at least.
>>
recent DPS chart please
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>>165939048
That's not how it's supposed to work, you're supposed to do the content while you're at a lower ilvl so that you can gear yourself up to that ilvl.
If you already have gear equal to or higher than the gear drops, then the content is pointless unless you want achievements.
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>>165939074
>raided with three grand marshals in wotlk
>they would circlejerk at least once a week about the good ol days
>they were always bottom of the barrel dps

At least they were pretty pleasant outside whenever they were reminiscing.

>>165939289

Irrelevant, because that's how it has and does work, at least at last check.
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>>165939258
There's like 3 in this thread.
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>>165932362
>fury warrior above arms
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>>165939074
As someone that did some raiding during vanilla, the primary reason it was hard was because you first had to actually get that many people at a time when internet connections were generally shit, and the bigger factor was that 9/10 players on average had terrible gear. Mechanically most fights were pretty simple.
>>
>>165937780
So you sayin dat we wuz demons?
>>
First 5 bosses are a freeby. Shit gets real from Tichondrius on.
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>guildie just got his 5th legendary
SOMEBODY STOP HIM
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>>165939384
spoonfeed me
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>>165939356
This autistic mentality is what caused lfr and lfg to be put in in the first place. Because without it, it would be impossible for newer players to get geared
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>>165939476
What do you predict for the meme progression level in NH?
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>>165938987
>thowing this much of a shitfit on a fucking gatekeeper boss
>mythic isn't unlocked yet
>pro guilds using ptr to train on this raid

>you: durr vanilla is hard, i want buggy overtuned bosses and 4 meme horsemen with 8 warrior tanks, true fucking skill right fucking there *angrily farms nature res for princess hurrhurrhan*

LOL
>>
What's the difference in gameplay of Paladin and Warrior at max level? I'm gonna boost one of them to level 100 and possibly main, but I can't decide which. I'll probably focus mostly on DPS, but I do like tanking now and then.
>>
you could do vanilla raids with half the raid afk lmfao ... how is that hard ....
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>tfw guild is starting nighthold in normal mode instead of heroic
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>>165939074
I raided in vanilla up to C'thun when I was 11 years old (so that should tell you something). Always topped the healing meters by just spamming like three different ranks of flash of light.

Mechanically it was easy as fuck but back then player skill and twitch ability was fairly undeveloped (not to mention the game was new so hard to optimize correctly).

If you put the typical player from today into vanilla WoW you get stupid shit like 20 min. BWL speed-runs (an instance that back then took hours to clear properly).
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>>165939804
>Clear normal in 1 hour
>See mechanics, maybe get some lucky TF drops
Woah ...
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>>165905253
>the amount of mats it takes to get black smithing up to 800
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>>165939856

Plus like I said in an above post, we had so many more players in shit-tier gear back then.
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>>165935329
soooooo

shadow priest as a range dd?
ret as melee?
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>>165939804
>implying isis has anything to do with islam
they just troubled boys and we need to help them
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>>165939634

>implying 4 horsemen isn't the pinnacle of raiding encounters

Name even ONE encounter that was as good from any expansion

You literally can't. It was the perfect fight.
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>>165939956
doubt we'd even kill two bosses in an hour
>>
ok so

if i would want to level an alt what would be the best way to do it considering AP, rep and suramar shit?
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>>165940175

Kael'thas, but besides that the fight is just built around switching, that's all.
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>>165935329
http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/Raid_T19P.html
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>>165939054

PvP is the best it's been in years. Stop being a shitter.
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>>165940619
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>>165940264
bump
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>>165940619
either you're retarded or you're a shill
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>>165938410
Well, if you spam heals on yourself over and over, eventually you will run out of mana, and doing a lot of CCs will drain you too. It's not like any class has resource limitations, warriors don't suddenly run out of rage and can't do anything, paladins don't run out of holy power, hunters out of focus etc.
>>
why are there no belf druids?

i fucking HATE every other druid race.......
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>>165940916
HURR WHY CANT GNOMES BE DEMONHUNTERS
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>>165940916
>no pandaren druids
>>
who /fotm/ here?

literally ret and spriest
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>>165940175
>perfect
>8 fucking warriors with set bonuses needed, because vanilla taunt is unreliable as fuck
>>
well at least they made respec tomes easier to make now .....
>>
Still don't understand how tichondrius is supposed to be hard, it's piss easy at least on normal, stand there if you have X, stand here when X happens and kill adds. Is that too much for people?
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>>165938987
Have you beaten mythic Helya?
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>>165940986
>implying we can't be
>>
guyyyyyyyys

spriest and ret?????
>>
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>>165941202
pic didn't load there
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>>165941158
>2/3 M

Why does this always make me laugh
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>>165941236
What about them?
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>tfw your baby outgrows you

I don't have internet access right now, but is there anything new for hunters to tame that's interesting? That fox spirit beast is trash, and this expansion hasn't had any fun pets yet.
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>>165941312
is that a good melee/range dps combo to have
>>
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>His guild can't kill Tichondrius or Botanist
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lol so apparantly dire stable summons beasts at their original size of when you tamed them

might full my stable full of huge devilsaurs
>>
Anyone know what NH trinkets are the best for mages right now?
>>
>>165941409
the fuck
>>
>>165941357
ye
>>
>>165939804
Its almost like you have double the chance at getting your raid tier bonus
>>
Why are people whining about Tich?

He's honestly not that hard of a boss
>>
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>Heroic 30M Botanist has 4.5 Billion HP
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>>165941496
aight gonna lvl an spriest then
>>
>>165940738
>>165940716

I'm guessing a Moonkin player and maybe...eh, a Warlock?
>>
>>165941634
oh is aff good yet/again, I took a bit of a break
>>
>>165941634
neither, cockfag
>>
>>165940619
>PvP is the best it's been in years

Please provide an explanation why you say this
>>
>>165941571
Because you do split damage to all of his clones and he has a shared health pool with them, it's a fight you heavily spec into cleave/aoe because phase 3 he's meant to die really really quick.
>>
>>165941634

I'm guessing a retard... eh, and maybe... a virgin?
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>>165941571
>P3
>>
SHADOW PRIEST NERF WHEN
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>>165940619
Hey Holinka
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>"At least power is something your feeble minds can comprehend!"

What does he mean by this?
>>
>>165941767

I mean, >>165941728
looks to be him, if that gives you an idea.

>>165941612
Level as Disc, or Holy. Shadow is a miserable time.
>>
>>165941767

Multiple comps are viable, multiple specs in each class are viable.

>>165941686

Aff is borderline OP as it has been in PvP the entire time. People just got caught up in the Muh Damage meme when Aff is and has always been a control spec.
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>>165941869
On Mythic, the entire fight is P3
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>you will live to see the day Holinka and Celestablet are fired from Blizzard
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removed jelly?
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>>165941973
DUDE ADDS LMAO
DUDE IM CLONING MY'SELF LMAO
DUDE PLANTS LMAO
>>
>>165941409
>Devilsaurs
Go tame 10~ Thok. Biggest tameable raid boss. Or, if you want some big pets that are easier to get;

>Chimaeron, Blackwing Descent
>Sungraze Behemoth, Valley of the Four Winds
>Terokkarrantula, Terokkar Forest

These three are easy to find, and are huge as fuck.
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tfw when you're tit's are longer than you're penis
>>
>>165942104
>found two on alts the other day
>picked up another on auction house for 5k

>>165942017
>Aff

Oh, nice.
>>
>>165942013
>Level as Disc, or Holy. Shadow is a miserable time.
but shadow for raid etc right?
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>>165942176
so this is an intentional feature?
i have some really, really big pets coming out in dungeons
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>the kraut samefagging again
just give it a rest mate
>>
>>165942403
It's gotta be a bug. There's no reason pets should come out stupidly huge like that.
>>
>>165942408
dont piss me off
>>
>>165941045
ive been sp since bc my nigga
our class was shit most of the time, now we deserve to be a little bit op
>>
>>165942408
Beats the kraut luluposting pedo over in lolgen

>>165942403
doubtful, likely to see a fix

>>165942392
yeah sure, just saying it's awful for leveling, especially when it comes to aoe
>>
>>165942046
How this even gonna be possible, my guilds tanks are like 895+ ilvl with good to BiS Legendaries and they get fucking trucked in P3
>>
>>165942017
>multiple specs in each class are viable.

want to know how I know you are lying?
>>
>>165942531
>yeah sure, just saying it's awful for leveling, especially when it comes to aoe
aight cheers
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>>165941129
>on normal
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>>165942550
I'm guessing you should be like 920 ilvl when you reach m bonatist?
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new
>>165942727
>>165942727
>>165942727
>>
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want to play legion but $50 is a lot of money for a game i know i won't enjoy for more than a week or two

would buy it in a heartbeat if it were $30 and included a month game time

bought draenor on sale for $10 and beat it within two weeks
>>
do i HAVE to do suramar story quest on my alt?
>>
>>165942810
no
>>
>Power Rankings

1. Crusade
2. Vanilla
3. Wrath
4. Legion
5. Panderia
6. Cataclysm
7. Warlords
>>
FUN
>>
>When the 2 legendary hunter with 880 ilevel has a consistent 120k DPS on every boss fight and dies first after 1-2 minutes every time
Nice meme
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>>165942550
Tell them to git gud?
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