XCOM General - /xcg/

X-Com 1 and X-Com tftd are better than the modern ones

For those who didn't see it already, the strategic layer revamp

Also stream tomorrow at 3 pm EST where Long Dong 2 is shown off

https://xcom.com/news/xcom-2-long-war-2-mod-brings-big-changes-to-the-strategy-layer-on-pc

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snek

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>>165881919

Air Game?

>>165882537

Of course not, no one wants that garbage back. NO ONE. FUCK YOU

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>>165882761

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Pistols are Useful.

When doing research, and you get the option to get the next tier in armor or weapons, do you do defense or offense first?

>>165884523

Offense, ayys can't kill you if they are DEAD

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>Long War
>About to lose Egypt
>Abduction mission in Egypt
>Bomb defusal mission in Egypt before council report
>Egypt goes from max panic back down to yellow

Sometimes things work in your favor.

If you hate the timer so much you may as well just play one difficulty lower.

>>165885113
For some people it's a psychological thing. You can do the missions within the time limit easy, but it still adds a bad sort of pressure.

>>165885113
1-2 turns extra balance would make 99% of those missions better.

Ok so that Anon last thread if he was a shitter for using timer tweaks in Vanilla.
I'm about to run ABA2 + LWPP and was wondering if I should run any Timer mods, ABA2 specifically recommends it but I'd like to hear from people here if its really needed.

>>165886186
I'd also like to ask if increased squad size is needed either

>>165886186
I like increased squad size because I like having a lot of soldiers, so I recommend it for the fun value. I definitely does make things easier though. I hear ABA2 is quite difficult though so I would definitely run a timer mod. True concealment is pretty fair in my book.

Is there any good armor mods for tier 2?

Is there a way to make twitch recorded video into WEBM?

>>165886917

ODST Mod

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Is there a fucking way to turn off the DLC maps in Long War? The fucking dam and subway maps are absolute fucking cancer.

>>165888526
Hey, I like Confounding Light and Deluge.

Anyway I think you can comment the maps out in the DefaultMaps.ini

I savescum remorselessly with the air war and fuck you if you don't like it.

Whoever designed this shit should be shot. Your entire campaign being skullfucked because 5 interceptors can't touch a UFO in some 7 second engagement bullshit you have essentially 0 control over isn't fun or engaging.

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>>165886917

See Pic.

LONG DONG

>>165886186

I use true concealment mod.

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>>165890856
I really wish tier one-two lasted longer, shit is so fun.

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>Menece ready to deploy!

What are you going to name your squad?

>>165894618
Slayyer

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Halo: Tactics General

>>165895176
Mutons replaced with Brutes mod when?

>>165890473
Nobody likes the air game afaik

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Retro snek?

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Pls no

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>>165895176

Not a problem with that.

>>165896897
From where comes the one on the right? This is not retro snek.

>>165898872
I made it, so we have a modern snek that fits in with the retro snek.

>>165898872
Pretty sure left is retro, right is X2 Viper in retro style.

>>165899082
Neat! Have you posted that on the oxc forum?

>>165896897
that's not bad. I like it

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>>165899162
No, I only have that one frame, and if making a full sheet is anything like these ripped sheets are, it seems like it would be a nightmare segmenting it all.
Was mostly for fun, but I might continue with it later.

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>LW2 doesn't introduce a dating sim aspect to the game
dropped

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>>165897703

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>Reinforcement pod of 14 drops right on top of your two assaults with close combat specialist

>>165900515
Bradford is getting too old for your jokes, commander.

I got one exosuit and I gave it to my Gunner.
Solid plan yeah?

Also I got 5 corpses, should I just make more exosuits or get one more corpse and finally McFucking upgrade my armor to the 2nd tier?

>>165894618
The furthest right class icon in Menace doesn't seem familiar. Is it the Technical's icon?

>>165901327
>Viper pulls your assault onto high ground and immediate gets rekt by CCS
>Free high ground

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>>165902240
This even happens with a Vanilla Ranger or LWP Shinobi with Bladestorm on either. At a certain point Vipers really do just kill themselves.

>>165902362
Talking about Vipers misusing their pulling skill, why don't any of them just bring a shotgun, grab someone, and fire at them point blank?

>>165902240
>Viper pulls your assault onto high ground and gets rekt by CCS
>Also pulls two more pods from fog of war, assault is alone on high ground in no cover
Mixed feels. Like, haha vipers are retarded, but also fuck you viper, you incidentally killed my assault you fuck.

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That's a first

>>165903117
>two thousand and ten+five+two
>using sparks ever
laughingADVENT.webm

>>165892446
I think with the uniform mod you can make them have the look while wearing the higher tier armor?

>>165894618
Is this a LW2 screenshot or something that already exists?

>>165903610
It has the class symbol for the Technical in it, a LW2 class, so it's a LW2 screenshot. Source, and exactly what it is depicting, is unclear at present.

>>165903736
Ah, didn't notice that. I'm glad they're bringing back the old rank names.

is Zemalf our guy?

>>165904848
you've successfully shilled me your channel, gonna let your voice put me to sleep now

thanks zemalf

>>165903392
There's mods for him

>>165903736
source is PI forums, tons of info there

> xcom2
> gatecrasher
> miss almost every shot
> panic into terrible positions
> get hit nearly every time
> manage to wipe on gatecrasher

Jesus christ. If there was ever a sign that xcom is doomed, this is it.

>>165905532
Git gud

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>>165905757
I just got this man in. I do not know how to feel about a sniper swordsman.

>can't equip Laser Sight + Scope on one weapon
fug

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CLOSE RANGE?

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>>165908375
CIVILIANS

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GET SOME

lmao not even PI likes sparks, they're totally untouched.

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>>165908375

Close Range All the Way, Bradford.

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>>165881620

I wish Michael McCann had scored X2 as well. It just doesn't hold a candle to when you zoom out into the Geoscape for the first time with Act I's music.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bpXfSxvp8E

>>165910030
McCann did ambience better but I love the combat tracks in 2. The transition and contrast of the music during your turn and theirs is GOAT.

>>165910128
>Alien Activity tracks aren't in the OST
JAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

>>165909308
*Hydrogen starts playing*

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>>165910263

>mfw the best music the DLC tracks from Shen's Last Gift aren't released either
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEOuN4O5zBs

>>165903392

>not using Metal over flesh - Upgradeable SPARKS
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=720053228

Its actually fairly balanced, imo. Makes them play a lot more like MECs from the original game.

>Dead Eye on Shotgun
I love it.

>>165910412
dang this is good

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This is TOTALLY balanced right?

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>>165914143
>Free random any psi ability in the game for everyone
>When every psi ability in X2 is a game changer
Thats broken as fuck.

>will never know what EXALT mecs look like

JUST

>>165896864
speak for yourself

>>165890473
How does your entire campaign get fucked by failing to shoot down an UFO? Only way to get "fucked" by that is if you lose the interceptors, and you get 100% control over that if you can restrain yourself from fighting UFOs out of your league..

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>when you proxy mine viper kings crib

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>>165915494
>when you get the regicide achievement during his reveal cutscene

>>165915494
How did you get proxy mines so early?

>>165916101
The mission never expires. You can do it anytime you like.

>>165916336
It just seems you still have conventional weapons.

If you do the mission any later than just getting gauss + plated, you're a pussy.

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>>165916427
>t.viper king that wants to squad wipe low tech commanders
I will melt you down to your base fucking elements with plasma fire and white hot sharpenel by the tonne

>>165916641
Real talk, the dlc missions are balanced to be difficult but not too difficult when you get them. If you do them much later, they become trivial like in >>165915494

>>165916735
>rulers
>balanced
its a shit dlc

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>>165916856

>>165917015
fuck off shen and take your shitty fake wannabe mecs

>>165916101

I just upgraded to t3 weapons and armor, using reach and titanfall skins. This is my first play through with aba2 on legendary so I left the rulers until near end game. I wasn't sure if there were changes made to them or how they would interact with more enemies, larger pods, etc.

I'd never tried mass mines on the rulers before, just saw it mentioned in xcg a while back.

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>>165916735
I've only really ran thee campaigns, the first I scrapped (1/4 done-ish) when I saw that the Rulers where out after a long break from xcom. So begins the second campaign and the Rulers literally meme me to death and I was pissed. >tfw

Campaign is kill, start a third when shens last gift comes out, find out that I can wait forever and I did just that. While I completely regret not doing the shen mission earlier I regret nothing about the pure barbarism on I committed onto the Rulers

You hunt the biggest prey with the biggest guns and if your prey is too busy and stupid enough to spend all day in its harem do nothing then I will come along when I feel like it and butcher it as my discretion

Anarchy's Children has only 3 good things: facepaint, skintight pants and knuckle dusters. I wish I could disable the rest.

>>165917580
Fuck you, Jake can do no wrong. I bet you're a racist drumpft supporter too.

>>165918445
>Hating based trump
FUCKING LEAVE

>>165918543
HES FIRED

>>165919069
DELETE THIS MR PRESIDENT

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>>165917580
>he doesn't like cosplaying the devil
Also, space masks.

>>165916735

have fun with your rulers in the first and second month

>>165920581
Thank you, I am. Overwatch traps into frost bombs make short work of them.

WHO HERE HYPE FOR LW2

>>165922289
im hype for the mods that will come

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>>165917580
You forgot to mention the shorts, friend.
I agree AC has its flaws (all the hair and some of the wackier head props) but other than that I see myself using the props every campaign

>>165922289

https://twitter.com/FiraxisGames/status/821431907116167168

reminder lw2 stream in several hours

>>165924125
8PM uk time

Are you excited for xenonauts 2?

>>165924125
>streams already
It really is coming out soon, isn't it?

>>165925101
Depends, will they make belts useful?

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>>165925887
I hope so all this teasing from them has made me lose motivation in playing my current campaign. This shit better be out by next week or i'm going to start reeeeing

>>165926142
>next week
Uhhh
May would be my most optimistic guess.

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>want to play xcom 2 at school
>can't download the .iso version at school, daemon tools requires admin privileges
>the game is 28 GB installed and zipped
>don't have any flash drive that big and external hard drive is too fragile
>upload to Mega
>done in 4 hours
>go to school
>start downloading
>9 MB/s holy shit
>after 15 GB get a prompt saying I depleted my download quota on Mega on that computer
>mfw

>>165896897
This is really awesome, nice work.

>>165902471
I've thought about making a challenge mod for Vanilla that just unrestricts the alien AI and does things like just completely removes snek bind since it is useless/actively works against the ayys in 90% of situations.

>>165926704
Definitely invest in a nice 500 GB external drive (or Terabyte or more), you won't regret it. It's also a great backup tools and can make any temporary computer feel like your usual which will is very nice.

>>165929094
I do have a 1TB external drive and a case for it but since all my backups rely on it, I'm a bit paranoid about it breaking or me accidentally dropping it somewhere. I'll probably just split the game to several parts and take multiple flash drives with me.

>>165884394
When are you fucking releasing

>>165929506
Since that is not the original poster 0%

>>165929598
WHERE DID FUCKING OP GO

DID HE GET SPIDERMAN'D

do you get the reference

https://xcom.com/news/xcom-2-long-war-2-mod-adds-new-missions-on-pc
>another reveal already

It'll release soon, right?

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>>165929708
yes I do

>>165930026
From the forum, it seems that many of their internal testers have already beat through entire veteran campaigns and they like where the balance is. I could be wrong, but it almost seems like they currently have a finished product. Also, they said they had more features they wanted to add (like re-working psionics), however they explicitly stated these would be updates.

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snake has a new plasma gun

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>>165930026
Jailbreak – XCOM must infiltrate an ADVENT jail and rescue key Resistance members. Success increases the strength of the Resistance in that region.
Haven Defense – A variation on Retaliation missions where XCOM must defend Resistance members against an onslaught of ADVENT forces until the Skyranger can get into position for extraction.
ADVENT Base Assault – XCOM must deploy to and overtake a well-defended regional military headquarters.
Invasion – ADVENT attempts to retake a liberated region by assaulting a city center. XCOM must destroy a psionic relay that summons continuous reinforcements, then eliminate any remaining forces.
>Rendezvous – A Faceless disguised as a member of the Resistance is detected as it goes to meet with its ADVENT handlers and XCOM must hunt it down.
ADVENT Supply Raid – XCOM must defend a supply convoy and its Resistance personnel from ADVENT attacks.
ADVENT Intel Raid – ADVENT attacks a Resistance listening post and XCOM must repel the attack.
ADVENT Recruiting Raid – ADVENT forces attack Resistance recruiters within a region. XCOM must extract those Resistance members.

>>165930303

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>>165930026
Holy shit release already I can't hold all this hype

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>no mod to replace the loadout/skyranger music with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIvdj2dwfxE
Teach me to do it and I might

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>>165930026
>https://xcom.com/news/xcom-2-long-war-2-mod-adds-new-missions-on-pc

No fucking wonder they've been quiet for so long.

It's probably a month away from release

Just finished the Bureau, man that was some ending.

I chose Weir because I knew he wouldn't go full retard and murder the Outsiders instantly once they were pacified.

I spoilt the ending a long time ago but I did still like the twist of you being the Ethereal and not Carter; he turned out to still be a broken mess of a person and was going to doom the whole fucking planet just to kill you.

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>>165931908
https://webmshare.com/zWnjK

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Daily reminder that sneks are the best.

>4. Have you guys done anything with (or, god willing, removed entirely) the "Line of Play" mechanic? In case I'm getting the term wrong I'll explain myself. The mechanic where the enemy tracks your position relative to the missions objective and constantly shadows your squad as the move around the map even though your whole squad is concealed and the enemy isn't meant to know where you are. I found it obnoxious :/

>2) The pod mechanics have been completely remastered in LW2.

Hooray! 1-2 man stealth missions ahoy.

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>>165931423
>>165930359

>>165930303

That's just the Xcom beam sniper with green fx, and the "repeater" part removed.

>>165933326
Now I'm wondering if they could actually change the pod system to what we had in OG XCOM

>>165930359

>Haven Defense – A variation on Retaliation missions where XCOM must defend Resistance members against an onslaught of ADVENT forces until the Skyranger can get into position for extraction.

For what purpose, this was already a mod.

>>165934526
That mod would probably not be compatible with LW.

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based LW2 guys killing the modding scene

fuck it, I used config timer mod and set all missions to have 2 more turns.

Vanilla time limits just arent fun, especially with all the LW mods im using in Xcom 2.

>>165930303
That would be the Naja, the sniper variant for the Snek. Very deadly, 90 aim, 40% crit.

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>>165934960
Oh god, what's happening? Are they all complaining that nobody will care about their epic overwatch character ports?

>>165935035
Fuck Najas so much.

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>>165934960

How long until the stream start? 2 hours?

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>>165934960

Everything will become one with the magnificence, we don't need more mods.

>>165935441

yes

>>165935441
Yup. Going to be so hype. Glad I am off today.

>>165935057
>>165934960

And you think thats something good? "Monopoly" of single mod?

Fuck it, even if I would be the only person left out of those, who still care.

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>>165935554

>>165935495

>we don't need more mods

Except more clothes, more weapon skins, more mission types because LW team cant think of everything, fresh ideas.

You guys act like if LW devs are saviors or something.

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>>165935647
>>165935642
>>165935554

NO MORE MODS

ONLY LOOOOOOOOOONG DOOOOOOOOOONG NOW

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Codex suit for solders when?

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>>Psy-Specific Weapons.

This needs to happen. Especially if they come in the form of swords.

>its an item retrieval mission
>all specialists are wounded
>8 turns
>halfway across the map with building in between
>vehicle is facing the opposite direction of LZ

'no'

>>165935803
Now I kinda want to draw rule 34 of this. Not sure how I'd compose it though

>>165936312
Well, there are already Psi weapons that the Avatars use. But they are just recolors of the weapons the Andromedons use. I don't think they need anything else. A shooting weapon that does more damage based off the Psi stat? No thanks. Psi soldiers are already too OP as it is in the base game. Them having access only to Rifles was a check on their power, not a very good one, but still.

Wow. That "Gauntlet" tool is jarringly ugly on the Titan Armor's wrist.

>>165938571
>Having only access to rifles is a check on their power when the only time you should ever have a Psi Op use their gun is Overwatch

>>165939007
Well, there should be upgrades to them that will make them blend better. It really does look bad though, even on regular soldiers.

>>165939072
Or when all their abilities are on cooldown. It is possible to run out of shit to use or for some abilities to simply not be worth it. You wouldn't use Void Rift on a single target.

Most of the time I throw my repeaters and hair triggers at psi soldiers. I still find it funny how often that thing has proced on them. Take a shot, still get to use Stasis.

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Long War seems promising, but let's temper our expectations until we know something about the quality of it, rather than just the extent and depth of it.

>>165939301
Thats the thing, I usually don't use enough turns on timed missions to run out of powers completely for them and on non-timed I can just OW spam until everyone's cooldowns are gone.

>>165939438
Well at the very least, we won't have to wait too much longer. Seeing it on stream will allow us to make a pretty good judgement of it's quality and even then if anything isn't up to par, we have mods that will probably allow us to tweak shit.

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>>165937102

Something like this.

Vahlen comes back in the expansion as a hybrid and allows you to add alien parts to your soldiers for special abilities

screencap this shit

>>165940006

But I already started writing fapfic based on that. You forgot already?

>>165940335
umm that idea is completely mine and original please donut steel

>>165935554
People who cared about compatibility managed to make their mods work with LW studios' other XCOM 2 mods. This one will be bigger and harder to work with but the modders who want to base their work on it will manage just fine.

I'm reading the long dong 2 QA thread on their forums and they basically added a bunch of shit from other mods. LW2 is really going to be an all-in-one mod that kills everything that isn't cosmetic additions. RIP

>>165939936
Seems doable

I'll try sketching it out and if I like it and end up finishing it, I'll post it here and on pahael

>>165940796

But it doesnt mean that any future custom class will HAVE to have 3 columns of skills instead of classic 2, for example?

>>165940583

2late, O'Hara already began her painful transformation into half-snek.

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>he spent his time modding the gameplay
>he didn't just create new hats
cucked by lump

Hate this fucking pod mechanic, its the dumbest fucking bullshit design choice in what could be a really great game.

>>165942412
What did they do?

>>165942412
what would you do then billy big bollocks?

>>165942484
X-com 1 and TFTD style which worked.

>>165942480
The new modern Xcom happened.

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>>165939438

Long Lump shall become far stronger than either of us!

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>>165940006
>Expansion
>Implying

>>165941103
Fuck off attention whore, nobody cares.

>>165943145
fuck you I care

>>165941340
>But it doesnt mean that any future custom class will HAVE to have 3 columns of skills instead of classic 2, for example?
I'm currently using classes with both 2 and 3 columns. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=727241931

>>165915494
pls do not bully my husbando.

>>165943350

Vahlen, you qt why did you even tinkered with those embryos? And why did you turn one muton-type into both Archon and Berserker?

stream when

>>165940006
long shlong is the expansion

screencap this shit

XCOM 2 and its fucking non-stop timed missions is so fucking cancerous.

Why cant Firaxis get it right? They created a fantastic game but a few fucking AWFUL design choices.

>>165944543
>wahhh I want to spend 30 turns OW until the enemy walks into me
fuck off the timers are too long if anything

>>165944543
>it will soon be one year since release
>that fag still can't gitgud

whoa t b h lmao baka

>>165944543

Yeah, if only this game had a modding community, if only there were 17, 543 mods out there that changed or removed timers.

>>165942860
this looks like he's holding a selfie stick

stream's live

>>165944543

Literally git gud.

>>165944714
wew lad I'm ready for an announcement of an announcement of the release date at the end

Enjoying XCOM so far on normal, I bout the original in a sale but haven't gotten to it till this week, also got XCOM2 thanks to humble bundle.

It feels easy but I've lost a few soldiers. Also running out of money fast. Satellites seem to be the easiest way to make money but they're take so long to build.

>>165944937

MORE SATELLITES MORE FASTER YOU KEK MORE SATELLITES

> johnnylump: Repeaters are gone.
> johnnylump: They're suppressors now and reduce your infiltration time, and makes your gun harder to hear.

>>165944543
>This assmad hes incapable of performing a swift and calculated strike

STREAM UP

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>>165944634

Sheev is a beautiful man.

>>165945125
>no more one-shotting Rulers
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>165943878
I wanted to have a big family but people are too scared of me so I went with making my own.

>multiple squads

o fug

>all these weapons
I just came guys

jake is OUR FUCKING GUY. so based. want to cuddle him and tell him how much i love his games.

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>>165945175

Just tuning in. Any interesting thing that has happened so far?

>>165945662
shoot SHOOT

>>165945662


enemy contact

>people already complaining because their favorite mods wont be compatible in the chat

it's ogre

>>165945786
>implying you need other mods anymore
get fucked

>>165945125
Magnificent

>Twitch loads on Chrome
>Can't load on firefox

What the fucking fuck

>stocks now give aim and crit chance
>repeaters no longer 1 shot

MAGNIFICENT

Stocks give you Steady Weapon

>everything was improved
why are all these changes so good? How btfo are firaxis right now?

Gunners gain a knife as secondary

>>165946276
I like this way better then it being a perk for some classes. Rangers needed steady weapon, but it sucked taking it. Now they have pretty nice first tier perks. Close and Personal is amazing to making a criter and I can't wait to try out that sawed off shotgun.

>>165946390
Jake seems impressed?

>>165945839

>implying you wont

Long Dong ruined Xcom fanbase and its about to do so again.

>>165944609

>too long
>have to rush blind into FoW because target is on the another side of map because "lmao 4 turns"

>>165946197
I'm watching just fine on my Firefox.

>>165946451

>Long Dong ruined Xcom fanbase and its about to do so again.

lmao i dare you to explain this you retard

>>165946403
>knife
Fuck, there goes Spec Ops. I think this works really well though. My Predator squad just got even better.

>>165946475
I pressed the X to stop loading and everything else showed up. Now watching fine.

Stupid Firefox

garth said it's coming out extremely soon

>>165946451
not their fucking fault that nobody won't just do anything besides tiny ass mods

>very very soon

>the operation's name is not Bone Mother
I'm disappointed.

>if they win the mission long dong comes out right now
oh shit

>>165946590
it was a joke

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>>165946590
>yfw they actually win

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What did they do with the Mimic Beacon?

>>165946451
play some other series that caters to casuals then

>>165946509

Every thread on /v/ about Xcom was "LMAO WHY DONT YOU PLAY LONG WAR" after the mod released and was quickly turning into shitstorm about of 45+ ayys on missions and 10hp thinmen.

Now people run around and declare all other mods dead and shit because their glorious Long Dong 2 is coming, ready to cover them in its thick fluids and ressurect the shitstorm.

In the meantime, even LW devs mentioned that their mod is not for everyone, but for people who want bigger challenges. Yet fans declared it the only proper way to play XCUM.

>>165946740
lump said it's pretty late game and expensive

>>165946451
>>165944543
then just fucking download mod that disables them pussy

>>165946672
We will still hold them to that

>>165946815
>reddit spacing

>>165946451
>What is Scanning Protocol
>What is Battle Scanners
>What is using your furthest move up as your first so everyone else can react to the discovered pod

>>165946815

it pretty much IS the only way to play the game. the base games become very easy and repetitive once you learn how to play the game. LW adds what is basically another player to the game that actively works against you forcing you to actually do shit if you want to win.

JAKE SOLOMON VOICEPACK WHEN?

>>165946815
>/v/

im literally shaking right now
t. xcom2 modder

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>>165946824

You mean to say it still exists? The LW team is confirmed for softie casuals now.

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>Jclewis getting bullied on chat by Capnbub's fans

>>165947006
Not him but that doesn't apply exactly to X2 as it did EU/EW. X2 has a multitude of smaller mods that already keep the difficulty fresh and add new things while not straying too far from the base game. Now with LW2 coming the elitists are going to be obnoxious as they possibly can towards people who just want a difficulty up without a ton of change.

Are pods now instantly activated in those missions? I like it

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>>165946815
People praise LW because Vanilla EU/EW runs its course really, really quickly. The inverted difficulty curve doesn't lend itself to multiple fun, challenging campaigns.

Long War added more content, completely overhauled numerous systems, made the tactical layer more challenging, and made each campaign a worthwhile time investment.

Just because you're too fucking retarded to edit the intuitive, easy to find .ini values to tweak what you personally think is bullshit doesn't mean the fanbase is somehow ruined.

>>165947168
It probably has tons of changes

>>165947207

the point of LW2 is to consolidate all those garbage poorly programmed mods into one inclusive package. you crybaby mod faggots can still add your random sci-fi game #1234983274 armor but now people don't have to install 30 conflicting mods just to get a level of challenge about babytown frolics.

ABA2 > LW2

>>165947193

What? Why? What happened?

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>>165947339
Way to play up to the elitist stereotype to a T, dumbass.

>>165947006

>the base games become very easy and repetitive once you learn how to play the game

Once you learn the game, yes, thats they key thing. Thats what the dev said themselves too - its additional challenge for those, who played the game, know its every mechaic and wants something new.

You keep forgetting that playerbase is not composed in 100% of veterans bored with basic content.

>>165946927

>what is early game

I remember tactics from first game and still I ran out of time few times. Default timers are too short in any unoptimal situations.

>>165946883

What the fuck is "reddit spacing"? I never even visited their site.

>>165946841

I got that one freezing them until you get discovered. Changes everything into what I believe is proper state - ranger scouts around and locate pods and their composition, team sets up ambush and then launch quick and precise strike. Like true guerilla squad would do.

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>>165947207
>LW2 elitists
>waaaaaaaaaaa he disagrees me my xcom 2 mods are ruined :(

I don't think I have seen anyone use the word "elitist" in an argument without sounding like an oversensitive tool.

>>165947207
What package of mods can I install right fucking now that can offer me big changes to the missions, the geoscape and everything else into one functional experience?

>>165947339

Wew lad.

>>165931070
There is.

>>165947339
>anything thats not Long Dong is poorly programmed garbage
>if you want to use other mods over Long Dong you're a cry baby mod faggot
And you faggots wonder why some people hate LWfags

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>>165947545
>>165947587

JLump in chat saying that the release date is "very very soon". What are the odds that they pull a Shen's Last Gift and release it at the end of the stream?

>>165947587
>You keep forgetting that playerbase is not composed in 100% of veterans bored with basic content.

Literally the only ones still playing the game are the hardcore fans. You actually think the people who bought the game on release and got halfway through veteran and quit should be catered to?

If you want a good laugh look at steam achievement stats. Something like 5 percent of owners beat commander.

>>165947259

You completely missed the point. I didnt said a shit about LW being too difficult or what, I said about elitists approach to LW, XCUM and considering LW to be the only way to play the game.

Why do they play so fucking slow

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you can still play with your poorly made waifu mods and armor packs.
the only mod that's worth anything that'd need changing is ABA, but the creator has already adjusted to LW mods before

>>165945786
>>165945839
They're going to release an entire list of compatible mods during release.

>>165947660
>while not straying too far from the base game
>reading comprehension

>>165947853

because they're showing off the mod and having fun you dour autismal faggot

>>165947753

>Literally the only ones still playing the game are the hardcore fans.

You keep forgetting about newcomers. Every sale is new wave of players.

>You actually think the people who bought the game on release and got halfway through veteran and quit should be catered to?
>"You actually think that people who are not me and my friends should be catered to"?

Yes. Thats what I think.

>>165947513

Because his models and stuff are usually garbage and capnbub's aren't. So he was bullied a little.

>>165947943
No they need to git gud

>>165947934
>base game

a boring piece of shit with an inverted difficulty curve that gets stale after two playthroughs?

>>165947980


you have to go back

>>165947854

You forget about classes.

>>165947854
>implying armor packs isn't one of the best things in the current modding scene with how fucking abysmal the cosmetics Firaxis added are
Aside from that, I don't think anyone is actually worried customization mods aren't going to work m8. LW is a gameplay modification.

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>>165947752

Not likely. They may, however, give Beagle an early test.

>>165947795
The only one who is missing the point is you, since you're selectively reading my post. LW is plainly, objectively a better and more complete experience than Vanilla EW.

Vanilla has significantly less content on every level and gets old very quickly. I included the .ini point because you can nerf the aliens such that you can play the tactical layer just like EW with even more tools.

But keep on going on about elitism. Buzzwords are excellent substitutes for arguments.

>>165948049

>two guys playing a new super hard mod
>having fun
>laughing together
>WAHHHHH THEY DON'T PLAY THE SAME WAY I DO

what's it like going through life with all those mental problems, kid?

>>165948140
>beagle breaks everything
>longdong delayed for 6 months

>>165948060
>reading comprehension again
ABA2+LWPP+Legendary Difficulty has me on my 5th full playthrough.

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>getting this mad over a mod
don't worry people will still use your halo loading screens :'^)

>>165948105
class mods have not conflicted with each other so far, why would it now?

>>165948232
pretty autistic daddy

>>165948232
t.silver

>all these soldiers positioned poorly to get flanked

c'mon jake you're better than that

>>165948269
>This same faggot spouting the same sentiment with some variation
I'm not even one of these mod fags crying about incompatibility. Stop being an insufferable shithead.

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It sure is /v/ in here.

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where is the class that sets down turrets?

>>165947980
>>165947587
LW is easy as fuck on anything below Classic.

LW2 is said to be easier than LW1 below the Veteran difficulty.

LW is just a fan expansion that fills up a depth void that the game has, both XCOM EW and 2.

If you play EW only vanilla and never play LW, you are really missing out, after you play LW you just cant go back to vanilla because you realize how shallow that fucking game is.

Same goes to XCOM 2, once you start modding, you cant go back to vanilla (i played XCOM 2 on a cousin PS4 to teach him the basics and it was the most frustrating thing to do).

LW2 for XCOM 2 is a god send since you dont need to do any compability shit for it and is pretty much a complete overhaul that no other modder has done before (Guerrilla Warfare was close but that is yet to be done), it will bring back the xcom community to discus tactics and ways to play.

I really dont see your point complaing about LW, if you complain about eletism, well shit bad luck but that is what happens in every game franchise when there is a optimal approach to play the game with challenge.

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>people seriously arguing that all other modders should stop because LW2 is out now

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>>165948459
>Stream for a popular mod brings the same tired reaction images and false flagging templates I've seen a million times over
Sounds about right.

Remember when everybody was anticipating the first big overhaul mods?

I 'member

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>>165948245

I can see that happening.

>>Then, they bring the Heavy Floaters back...

Oh boy.

>>165948601
it's true though, what's the point in releasing garbage when the perfect mod is coming soon

>>165948756
Because once Spectrum finishes, it will surpass LW2

>>165948601
>creating fabricated falsehoods nobody actually said to shitpost

....pathetic

>GRAZED

das xcom baby

>>165948883

>meanwhile

>>165948756

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>jake experiences firsthand the magnificence of his game

>I DIDN'T FORTIFY

>>165948883
Look two posts above you.

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I'm being serious here lads, delet all your current mods and verify those caches boys. You need to be virgins for when LW2 releases and rapes your workshop directories with its large thick download size.

Have these people even played XCOM before?

Will you take the MAGNIFICENT DESIGN challenge?

>LW 2
>Training Roulette
>Random assigned perks on rank up
>Bunch of class mods with new skills to dilute the pool

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>>165948630
The XCOM 2 mod community has been a fantastic cottage industry so far, and we are just starting to see Guerilla War and ABA2 approach "overhaul territory." Kind of makes me wonder if anyone is going to bother once LW2 is out.

The modding community for XCOM is nowhere near as established as it is for Bethesda / Source games. It might be a while before modders are confident / competent enough to create more overhauls. LW2 is a good jumping off point.

>Grazed

>>165949272
literally no point of playing anything else now, I'm genuinely 100% serious that there won't be anything else that will even come close to the magnificence of LW2

>>165949405

it's a complete overhaul mod that changes everything in the game. keep your autism in check for 2 seconds and realize they're basically relearning everything in the one play session.

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>>165949407

Nice to see dodge is still bullshit

This gameplay is fucking putting me to sleep.

magnificent, truly magnificent

>>165949452
I can't see overhauls on the scale of LW2 for a while yet, since people will need time to play LW2 and say "I like this but that could use improvement and I'm just the guy to do it".

>>165949478
Lotta grazing and dodging in LW2. Wondering if that's a thing. Also wondering if they've done an AI overhaul, the AI seems slightly smarter to me.

>>165949527
But anon, it's the only way to simulate going from a completely dysfunctional rebel group to new kings of Earth.

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>>165948969
>>165949056
>being incapable of reading through irony or sarcasm

You know where you need to return to.

>>165949623
I'm just memeing. I definitely want to try something like that.

>graze on a wide open Stun Lancer 6 tiles away
I don't think this semen slurping mod is for me

>>165949452

I seriously doubt it, it's likely that with LW2 out no one else will bother to make overhaul mods. You'll probably see more mods but they'll probably be small changes or just cosmetic stuff.

>>165949558
>let's give everything 10 million abilities
boring game design appealing to power fantasy kids, vanilla got it right and just needed a few tweaks I'm very disappointed so far

>>165948969
>>165949056
surely that anon was completely 100% serious that all mods of any capacity can fuck off now and is not falseflagging

GRAZED

REELING

ABOUT TO BREAK

>jake starts memeing in Italian

wew lad my boy got jokes

>>165949782
I have a hard time believing that everyone is going to collectively throw up their arms and go home. The ABA2 / Spectrum / Guerilla War guys seem pretty devoted.

But we'll see how it goes.

>>165935057

Hell, I've done some code modding over this year and I'll freely admit that I feel a certain bitter sting of jealousy at the insight that Pavonis are going to dwarf all my accomplishments and make me look like a kid in dad's clothes. But this is how it has to be, this is good. I could have put together a team and had my own go, but now I'll just play LW2 instead.

>>165949997

devoted to sucking dicks
LMAO
#GOTEM

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>>165949820

>>165949997
ABA2 guy already said he'll do a LW2 version of his mod

>>165949997

Well in all seriousness, individual modders just cannot compete with a team of now game developers. I can see them making their mods compatible with LW2 and maybe making some changes, but that's about it.

fuck they're going to have to end it because time constraints

>>165950201
People will eventually get bored of LW2 and want to do their own stuff. It might be a large hit initially, but things will straighten out given time. I just cannot imagine a monolithic mod holding complete supremacy for the rest of the game's life.

It's just a matter of how much time XCOM 2 has before the modders get bored and move on.

nothing: the stream

>our mod is standalone and will not be compatible with anything but cosmetic mods that don't utilize any existing assets

BTFO

EXTREMELY SOON

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Let's dance!