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EVE Online general /eog/

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Cute Ships Only Edition.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No
>Can I make enough ISK as an Alpha to PLEX?
Yes

>I just started, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link(chaining them with friends works best).
If you have no friends use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=4eca5d19-7c52-44fd-9de6-ff7b1398159c&action=buddy
Don't forget to save your referral's name, If you upgrade to Omega send me a mail with the date when you upgraded and I will give you the entire PLEX.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy

Future:
>It's a mystery

Present:
>Winter War

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

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I am waiting for death.
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kevin am I cute
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>>165846826
Im waiting for the right time to start a corporation... or get my GED in real life. I think starting a successful corporation is higher on my priority list because EVE is so much more satisfying than real life.

>that feel when every corporation i join dies
>that feel when i keep jumping from career to career
>that feel when im space poor

A failure in EVE and real life, but im gonna keep on tryin.
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>Amarr
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>Caldarpee
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>not living in Thera
>not being a Elite Theraboi

When are you guys gonna get Git Gud V?
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Just bought a plex for the sole purpose of turning it into injectors

Feel a bit filthy
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>buy orthrus
>join fleets
>shoot tackled carriers

so elite
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>not being in signal cartel
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>not having new null connections to roam everday
>all of K Space in your reach
>not killing Signal Pacifists for free loot
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>being completely cucked by eve-scout
>all nullbabbies can see all your connections
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>playing eve
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>playing
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>>165848812
Implying you ever create content.
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ITT: Post your biggest loss you've ever had, laugh at each other
https://zkillboard.com/kill/53664698/
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Anyone else really hate the use of the term content in eve?
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>>165850906
yes
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CCP should make an ADAM Online for girls.
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>find item with 8% margin
>make 50mil Isk trading it in a single day
>set up large buy order for all my Isk
>next day
>log in
>one single guy has filled my buy order
>all other orders are gone too
>price has dropped by 30%
>sell orders are below what I bought at
>300k Isk left
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>"playing" eve
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>"playing" video games
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>>165851661
could I borrow 300,000 ISK please?
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>>165850878
It's not on zkill but i lost a 500mil tengu doing the caldari epic arc.
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I fell for the unsecured site meme
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>>165851661
>>set up large buy order for all my Isk
>buy order for all my Isk
Found the problem. You need to diversify your bonds, nigga.
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>>165851661
>next day

Stellar day trading skills, my dude.
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>exploration isn't a meme
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Exploration isn't a meme if you're not retarded.
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>>165852605
>if you're not retarded
You say that in /dog/
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>>165852605
>if you're not retarded
and this is how 95% of the thread got disqualified
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>Exploration isn't a meme if you're not retarded.
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>>165850878

I don't want to post mine because my board is entirely red :( I tried for a time solo but I got sick of dying to gatecamps and gank squads so now I just avoid pvp
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I find that ratting fits my brand of autism more than other ways of acquiring money. I trained into relic/data skills v, did explo for a few hours, extracted all the skills and put them into gun skills.
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>>165853289
>joined Pandemic Horde
>almost entire killboard is green
>now it's full of multi-billion fortizars
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how the h*ck do i find places to explore. having flown deep into low sec i have yet to find an empty area where there are signatures. i've flown into a few wormholes too but the shit i find in there tends to be <5 mil per can. how do you people find 50-100 mil + exploring?
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>h*ck
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>>165854018

Look up wormhole codes list and then check what type it is before you go in
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>>165854018
> how do you people find 50-100 mil + exploring?

by getting lucky, then pretending that it happens all the time
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>>165854323
which types should i aim for?
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>>165854018
be 30 minutes away from literally every trade hub
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>>165854464
http://wiki.whitestagexitbag.org/doku.php/public/guides/exploration
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What tool do corps use to check an API?
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>he fell for the "EVE is about PVP" meme
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>>165854018
Null
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Falling for the full api meme requirement
Good goy
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>>165850878
My biggest loss was 280m domi followed by a 1b pod.
But bear with me - this isn't the best part yet!

Died because I flew into a wormhole and didn't save the exit :)
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>he hates the term content
>he never creates any content
>he thinks he is a good player for showing up on his F1 failproof ship
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>>165854984
>no mjd
>also is in a blob

kys
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>99.99% of cosmic anomalies are gas sites

amazing
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>>165857296
whshitter pls
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>>165857296
>anomalies
nice meme
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>had to share a rich virgin hole with a magnate because i have no weapons
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>>165858738
>not killing them with pvp Heron
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Hello. I am a new Merlin pilot looking to increase my skills.

Where in the fuck do I get skill books and how do I know what I should be learning? I just started playing yesterday.
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>>165859060
>Where in the fuck do I get skill books

There's a market tab on your left.

>how do I know what I should be learning?

You need to figure out what to do. Traing Weapon Upgrades, CPU and PG management when in doubt.
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>>165858738
Sounds lewd, anon.
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>>165859060
If you wanna keep flying that Merlin train small Hybrid Weapons and then Hybrid Railgun/Blaster Spec, and of course Caldari Frigate skill. Since you'll probably want to shield tank it, train stuff from the Shield skills as well.

Before that, you might want to train essential core skills like Hull Upgrades IV and most things on the Engineering and Navigation skillsets. That goes for everyone, not just Merlin pilots.
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>>165859060
Oh and train stuff from Gunnery skills too.
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>>165859060
join a corp and ask your dumb question there
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Tell me about Marauders - why is everyone and their mother telling me it's a shit idea?
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>>165853594

ISK killed doesn't factor into metrics on zkill anymore. You're probably only getting 1 point per fort kill in those massive blobs.
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>>165862078
A shit idea for what?

PvP?
Because you're going to get carriers dropped on you all day every day because you can't run away and can't fight them while nearly costing as much.
PvE?
Because being shackled in place in Null is a good way to lose a billion ISK, and in HS missions the goal is to blitz for maximum LP/hr so you can't afford to get locked in place when you gotta go fast.
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>>165862304
>Because you're going to get carriers dropped on you all day every day because you can't run away and can't fight them while nearly costing as much.

much like flying a t1 battleship
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>>165862304
Hrm. I feel like I should have asked these sorts of questions before training Marauder 5.

Ah well. Back to the drawing board.
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>>165862304
>while nearly costing as much.
An insured carrier is probably cheaper.
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>>165846826
Who is this Avada person, can you take them back and stop them from shittying up my favorite game
t. most of /ss13g/
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>>165862485
A t1 battleship insures better than a marauder and doesn't cost a billion.
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>>165863197
yes, but if you think marauders need something special and that normal battleships don't suffer from all this shit then you're wrong
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>>165862078
The only time they're not shit is in WH space, and that's only if you've got good hole control when you're deployed.
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>>165863183
He's one of our autists, but he's not playing right now. He will stop messing with you when he feels like it.

>>165863319
>>165863197
>>165862886
>>165862796
Marauders see use in wormhole space because they are very strong and people can't drop caps on you through the magical teleportation portal.
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>>165863319
Marauders are plenty special already, they're just extremely cost ineffective.
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>>165863648
more like because wormhole space is fucking shit
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any of you nerds want a rattlesnake with T2 extenders?
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Christ the autism in warptome TS

At least I'm gonna make some isk
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>>165864316

Remember to tell them to fuck off when they ask you to tip the booster.
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>>165864601

Prefer to just not say anything and keep making money. I just listen to music and kill tags. If anything significant happens I'll hear their screeching
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>>165864601
They still tip boosters?
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>>165864709
That's pretty much what I do. And that's why I fly with them. I don't have to look at my screen 24/7
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>>165863821
Yes pls, Fore Twentay, I'm in jita
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How long are the wait times for starter fit BS for WTM? Training for a Hyperion right now after falling for Incursion ISK meme
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>>165864952

I still keep hearing "jokes" and its honestly embarrassing to listen to these people. Its like all of the stereotypes of basement dweller MMO players but they're not even good at the game
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>>165865175
They don't care about fits that much, as long as they're listed on the site. If you come first they'll invite you. In TVP you apparently can get in faster if you have a better fit.
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>>165865403
TVP cares more about who volunteers for roles than who has the most blinged fit.
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>>165865403
Some FCs are assholes and will skip you if you don't have a crazy expensive Vindi fit, others will just take whoevers at the front of the queue.
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>>165863821
If it's free, sure
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>>165863821

5 mill cash on the table right now
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>>165865617
Wait when did vindis start being the preferred autism boat?
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Im just leave this here for checking Soshin*
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5okkye/c4_with_a_c5_static_and_71_c3s/
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>>165865923
No idea, but TVP only takes NM and Vindis. Usually more Vindis than NMs.
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>>165866078
I heard nightmares are a little meh now since the links changes but why no more machs?
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>>165866078
>TVP only takes NM and Vindis
Machs are useful too, you just don't want too many of them.
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>>165866197
TVP still use machs, but outside of the roles that their speed gives them an advantage for and the ability to take armour shots during contests they're just bad nightmares. You want enough to fill the roles and an extra or two and that's all.
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What are incursions?
what do i need to fly to do them?
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>>165866503
asperger's
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>>165863648
Hurry up and take him back
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>>165866503
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Incursions
https://wl.warptome.net/fits/
https://wiki.thevalhallaproject.info/doku.php
google this shit yourself next time you fucker
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>>165866961
only if you clowns make a new client and move away from BYOND
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Why do people ask you to drop corp when doing incursions?
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eve is for gays and homos
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>>165869486
great fit for you then, faggot
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>>165869363
Mechanics have changed alot since i last played so this is only a guess but i should think it's because if you're wardecced and someone reps you they're a target now.
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>>165869363
>ask you to drop corp

Literally who does this? TVP just says don't show up if you have a wardec/killrights.
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>tfw some newb made a killright on me available
>it's only 10mil but I don't want to pay him even that
I'll just forget about it next time I'll go to highsec for some reason and die. Why do kill rights even last 30 days?
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GUYS
>torpedoes
>cruise missiles
>rapid heavies
FOR RATTLESNEK?
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>>165871435
For what?
PvP?
PvE?
Spinning?
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>>165871550
anom ratting
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>>165871435
rockets
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>>165871435
if you're shit you use rapids

if you're good you fly a different ship
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>>165871565
Probably cruises then.
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>>165871629
VNI's too afk
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>>165862796
>Marauder V

>already have a faster mission ship
>wouldnt ever rat with a marauder in null
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>>165871565
use the money you woulda spent on the snek to get a second account to have 2xVNI
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Is there number of active players growing or is it just the number of active alts?
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>>165875898
Although alpha clones may have changed this, according to numbers CCP released a while back the average number of accounts per person is only 1.5.
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>too autistic to join a corp
>still want to pvp
>tfw you pay CCP for 7 accounts and grind Isk to plex 4 more
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>>165877971
What is your isk-making activity
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>>165878064
I run incursions with one account and mine with a bunch of others. I tried to get into PI but I don't have the attention span to come up with a good setup.
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>>165874487
I don't like multiboxing
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stop it ccp
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>>165877971
>mining with multiple accounts
>no corp
so you're a hisec miner?
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>>165854385
>I can't do exploration well so no one can

hmmm
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>he fell for exploration meme
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>>165878291
>>165880352
PI+exploration is just constant money without even doing anything. Granted, PI is useless outside of null or WH space. And transportation for hauling is a team effort.
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>exploration is just constant money without even doing anything
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>>165880650
>things no one ever said
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>exploration is just constant money without even doing anything
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>4 hours of exploration

Really makes you think doesn't it?
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>>165880952
>got as much ISK as high sec incursion runners who click one button
Yeah, it does.
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>click one button
>receive 450 mil
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>>165881123
>incursions

have fun with your autism, i'll stick with my low SP/Isk requirement fun way to make iskies
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>>165881308
>keep clicking one button
>receive 1.2 billion a day
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>warp carrier to mission
>receive 5.9bil a day
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>having to push a button
>mfw his isk isn't free
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>passive income
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>stay logged out
>receive 50mil per second per hour
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>log in to run just enough incursions each month to afford a PLEX
>log out
>repeat each month for the last year

I think I need help.
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Just got this off a relic site, price check? Did it get my hopes up or is it worth anything?
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>>165882536
Why don't you check contracts you fucking faggot?
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>>165882536
I'll give you 1 million isk for it.
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>>165882167
>mfw this is my dream scenario and you fail to appreciate it
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>>165882536
I'll give you 300 million ISK for it. Contract it to Kreydis Arona
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>>165883006
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>2017
>still have to completely relaunch the game to log on to another character
???
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>>165882752
How do I check, it isn't easy being a faggot AND having to do things myself.
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>>165883135
>still have to re log about 10 times if you want to move stuff between characters
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>>165883137
Right click -> find on contracts
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>>165883137
>right click on item
>"find in contracts"
>have a look at general prices

alternatively if you're in jita or somewhere, you can click buy all on the materials and compare how much that costs with how much the thing the blueprint builds is worth on the market
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where the heck do i find null sec areas with no people? every time i go deep into low sec/null there are no signatures because there are always people around. what are some names of systems where there is little activity, and how do i ger there? no meme answers please
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>no meme answers please
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>>165885156
>Check dotlan.net
>Check # of jumps and # of kills in a region
>Use your brain for where people will be (Is it a deadend system, is it a system with a lot of connections? etc.)
>If an area loots good go check it out, take note of who lives in the general area and if they are active/try to shoot you.

Congrats, you just found a quiet area of space.

If you are asking because you want to do exploration then just find a WH in lowsec, then scan holes down until you find a NS exit, check where it leads to. If it leads to a quiet area you are good, if not try a different NS exit.
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Is the Rifter good yet?
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>>165885156
yes
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Why doesn't /dog/ have a public channel in EVE? I want to shitpost even more.
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>>165885156
Check recruitment
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>get Caldari Frigates to V
>don't want to fly any
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>>165888972
Not even a Manticore?
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>caldari
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How viable is it to be a freighter pilot? Is there money to be made as a trader? I want to RP as a freighter pilot really badly. Delivering goods around the galaxy.

Or maybe even a smuggler?
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>>165892539
Very profitable, but like everything else in life, requires connections to get off the ground in any meaningful manner.
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>>165893661
>haul a billion isk worth of cargo for a million ISK a jump in the slowest ship in the game

I honestly don't understand how you can make a living doing this.
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>>165895856
>Not PLEX running
ISHYGGY DIGGY
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>>165896436
Why would you transport plex in a freighter?
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>>165896631
>Transporting plex in a freighter
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>>165895856
What is the best non-combat job in eve?
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>>165896696
exploration in places where you don't have an intel channel set up.
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>>165896696
anything you can do without undocking. Like running a corp or trading
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>>165896696
Rorq mining.
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>>165896696
If by best you mean "Most profitable despite inevitably resulting in suicide due to a combination of the tedium, dealing with idiots, and the sheer soullessness of it", then station trading.
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>>165896696
station trading + multibox mining
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>>165896890
>half a bil
>decide to do a week of station trading to plex my account
>3 days later I'm at one bil
>avoid the game for a couple of days and stations for a week after I returned to the game to deal with the stress and depression that shit caused
Trading for extended periods of time is soul crushing.
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>It's another episode of "Why can't I find relic sites"
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So, is there a primer on citadels somewhere? Can I go use someone's citadel or will it kill me or what's the deal?
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>>165897734
if the citadel is on overview then you can dock in it and use it's services
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>>165898017
they haven't done the same thing with outposts, have they? Because that actually sounds useful
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Is there a skill that increases capacitor capacity? I can't find it.
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>>165897214
were you experienced with trading? How did you go about starting? what did you trade in? did you have to travel?
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>>165898176
Capacitor Management, under Engineering.
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>>165898210
Thank you.
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>>165896854
that's literally 2 titans mined per day if you combine all
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>>165898193
>were you experienced with trading?
I had very little experience and never had more than 50mil in the market escrow until that day.

>what did you trade in?
Cant remember the items. I just checked the fits of my corp and saw how much volume it moved and its profits, then branched out as I gathered more info. Some 3rd party tools can do the work for you but its guaranteed you'll compete with bots.

>did you have to travel?
No, I refused to undock since it meant to lose the spot at the top of the orders. If you're willing to treat it like a job, moving stuff between trade hubs can make some decent profits but it can be a headache after a while.

Jita trading is insanely profitable but in the end the bots will kill whatever you have left for soul.
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>>165899654
>Jita trading is insanely profitable but in the end the bots will kill whatever you have left for soul.
I can attest to this. I just had one of my orders undercut 3 different times in under 3 minutes. Shotgun barrel is looking mighty tasty right now.
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>>165899654
>>165899879
I traded in Amarr and Dodixie on two different accounts. Updating orders 2-6 times a day and I made a pretty good profit. Fuck Jita m8
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>>165899976
I'm considering moving but the much lower trade volume concerns me. You still made good profits even though those hubs only get 1/10-1/4 of the traffic?
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>dock in station
>get free noob ship
>sell the trit from the cargohold
>go outside and self destruct
>repeat
easiest money of my life
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When can I start pvping with my t1 frigate?
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>>165900061
I wasn't great at it but over the course of two months I mad ~15b, starting with 2b. I didn't put a ton of time into it per day but I got a little burnt out after a while.
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>>165900107
a better question is when can you stop
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>>165900107
Join a newbie corp: PH, KF, TEST, Moots last Jihad, etc. They will give you free shit and you can get into pvping easy.
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>>165900239
Sounds good. I've heard there are bots at Amarr, too, though. Did you have a problem with them? I'm trying to decide between Amarr and Dodixie and while the fact that Amarr gets over twice the traffic is appealing I'd rather completely eliminate having to compete with market bots rather than just decrease their prevalence.
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>>165900649
I never had any trouble dealing with bots at Amarr. It might depend on what you are buying/selling. I mainly did ships and modules, which were slow enough that bots didn't go after them maybe?
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>>165901519
Alright, thanks for your input.
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>Minmatar
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>caldari
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>>165904143
Achura females are master race.
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So I fell for the exploration meme, but I keep getting assblasted by cloaky asterii and stratii every time I even touch a wormhole.

I checked d-scan every 5 seconds, left carbon to decloak them, kept myself aligned to the Sun, made bookmarks etc etc

How do I stop this, and am I just unlucky? Or should I just train to an astero myself and assblast the assblasters? Currently in a T1 exploration frig.
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>>165900062
What's the isk per hour like doing this?
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>>165905440
a lot
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>>165905440
extreme many lots of money per hour
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>>165871629
>>165871739
So which one is it
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So I completed the final Career Agent job last night.

Is it time, /eog/? Is this the moment where I consult the expansive job chart and strike out on my own?
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>>165905572
>>165905819
Thanks, are there any skills I can train to make the process a little faster?
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>>165904786
Stop doing exploration in wormholes, use wormholes to get into quiet nullsec systems. In nullsec you can use "Pirates Little Helper" to check out who is in local. Assess the the risk based off of who is in local. Do they pvp often? Do they kill explorers often? If not you should be okay to do the sites. Also just in case you didn't know, skip data sites because they are cancer and if you do them you are a tist.
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Merlin or condor for a beginner? Which is ea sier to play? Which is cheaper to fit?
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>>165888972
Condor/Kestrel for pve, missiles are far more braindead.
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>wahh wahh exploration is bad because i can't find relics
literally found this in the first c4 i jumped into today
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>>165906163
never heard of PLH, seems neat.

what are some useful 3rd party wormhole tools? i was using wormhol.es but apparently its no longer being maintained
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>>165908236
>implying
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>>165908236
pirate sites spawn in c4?
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>>165908452
No. They are C1-C3

>>165908314
I use Tripwire. Takes a little getting used to tho
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>>165907886
Blaster fit merlin shits out damage but if your a newbro it doesnt really matter just pick whatever one looks cooler
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I wish I had known that t3d require weapon upgrades, advanced weapon upgrades and power grid management all to be V for good fits to work.
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>>165910135
They don't, not awu V anyway.
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>>165910197
on a confessor, 4 small focused beam laser II use like 65% of my grid on their own. I don't want to use pulse because I'd rather have some breathing room as I am terrible at pvp and being able to volley at 50km is great.
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>>165910135
>training t3ds before you even have powergrid V
what
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>>165910480
Well with pulse laser you can get a great fit without all those other skills, but I want beams because as you can tell, I'm shit.
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>>165910464
AWU V vs IV is a whopping 1.04 extra grid.
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>>165910669
Well I'll just go to iv for the time being anyway, 29 days for 2% is fucked.
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>power gridlets without AWU V
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https://zkillboard.com/related/30001182/201701180700/
Ayy lmao
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>>165910780
It's an important skill but getting it to V shouldn't be a priority, that 2% is easy to work around without making substantial compromise.
Power grid management V and to a lesser extent weapon upgrade V are important though.
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>used to play
>log in
>can't remember what I wanted to do on this character
>send money to new character
>do tutorial

That was fun

Alright I'm amarr, I want to build myself to basically fuck rats and maybe other small ships for days, what ship do I want to aim for?
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Are prototype cerebral accelerators a meme?
I want to get them for a future alt.

>>165911489
small ships for days?
confessor
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>>165911489
>VNI

you being amarr means nothing, drone boats are the way to go
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>>165911489
Confessor
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>>165911742
>>165911528
Alrighty I'll get on that

I've almost got enough isk to get me a plex woo
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God, the rapier/bellicose/huginn is ugly as balls
>>
>in the future every piece of equipment will be designed with aesthetics first and foremost
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>>165912497
It doesn't look useful, either
>I'M GOING TO PUT TWO SKIIS HERE RIGHT
>AND CONNECT THEM WITH A THIN FUCKING HALLWAY
>THAT'LL SHOW EM
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>>165912838
Yup that sounds like minmatar.
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>burst hull
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>>165912838
Necessity is another element of design. Say you're a nation of dumb PEOPLE OF COLOR with no money or resources? Well then you build stupid looking ships because you have no real manufacturing capabilities and never really fix their obvious design flaws because of your racial inferiority.
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>>165912934
So thats why amarr is so shit.
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>>165912919
N-no please no
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>mfw amarr practices religion
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>tfw minmatar has brutors
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initiated compact warp scrambler
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>find old account info
>11 year old characters
>69,660 skill points
>5k isk
I think I'll leave him like this.

EVE used to be so much more brutal to start.
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>>165915868
Check assets for anything old and valuable.
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small azeotropic restrained shield extender
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>'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
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>drone ships
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/59281390/

What happened here? Why didn't the Loki guy get exploded by Concord?
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>>165916591
Suspect ibis, the RMT guys flag themselves in the middle of nowhere and the buyer comes in and kills them
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>>165916684
>middle of nowhere
like jita 4-4
>>
>confessor is going to take 22 days

Alrighty then
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>>165873065

> dat picture

I swear, we need to glass Japs into oblivion,
before they shit up everything.
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>>165916702
>instant warp 500000km away
>warp to safespot
ggez rmt
>>
>last site you scan in wormhole is the non-sleeper relic site
>>
>tfw you are playing around in fitting and accidentally destroy a t2 rig

GOD DAMMIT.
>>
>bought a dragoon as my first ship purchase
>lowest level drone needs a heap of skills

Am I missing something? Dang
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>>165917862

Drones V is essential to get good use out of a drone boat, and getting T2 drones and your drone supports up will massively boost its effectiveness. Drones are used on essentially all subcap combat ships cruiser up so the skillpoints will be used on lots of ships.

Like most things in eve you can still be effective with less, depending on what you're trying to accomplish. What are you wanting to do with your ship?
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>>165918103
I'm just looking to be a casual player, going for a confessor to play around killing rats while I explore and maybe snipe some small player ships if I ever feel the urge
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>>165917447
Stay triggerred, normalfag.
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>>165917862
Drones are op as shit, just bite the bullet and get Drones V and a bunch of other drone skills, it will be completely worth it.
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>>165918623
The confessor is a great ship. It Looks great and is an effective pvp boat even after a nerf. t3ds in general are pretty good for new players, as they offer a lot of power for a relatively low skill investment. Laser weaponry has slightly tougher skill requirements than other gunnery systems to be effective however, and I'm not sure the confessor is an optimal pve ship outside of wolf rayet wormholes. If you're inexperienced with pvp I'd be cautious about trying to get into it with confessors unless you're happy with your income as t3ds can be a bit pricy if you're planning on losing a few. Easy targets like most exploration frigs and the like should be safe pickings however.

I'd recommend trying to find a corp and getting stuck into the game a bit more as soon as you're confident with the basic mechanics.
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>go explomeme
>third site scanned is this
Fug am I finally rich now?
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>>165919010
>>165918675
Cheers for the info lads

>get sent on a mission
>i didn't realize it sacrifices my ship
>all my guns and shit gone
>I don't remember what I had because they were given to me by missions
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>>165919145
Define rich. You can search for blueprints in contracts. The cheapest contract for that bp is in Jita for 80m ISK. Not bad, but not not rich yet I'm afraid. I'm assuming you survived the ghost site?
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>>165919416
I forget, do you get lossmail for that mission?
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>>165919416
That one catches out a lot of people. There's also some missions where you just have to pick up an item or kill one target, and just doing that saves a lot of time, so it's worth reading the description quickly the first time you do a particular mission
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>>165919520
Rich compared to mining.
Also fug that is one expensive crafting bill. Hope it will at least sell.
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>>165919593
>>165919526
I checked, I got no mail

>he gave me another ship and I have to suicide this one too

Guess I'll insure it and make some dosh
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>>165905831
your character looks like a slut, consider becoming an exotic dancer
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>>165920267
>>165919526
Oh I found the kill report so I know what I had

I bought completely different guns
>>
Remember when you had to train Learning skills and increase your attributes before you could even have fun in Eve? Remember when you had to update your clones? When Bantam was a mining ship? People mining in cruisers? People stealing from cans with no repercussions? When there were no titans and MOTHERSHIPS? People transporting shit in caravans of transporters, with scouts and escort?
Nostalgia says those were the good times but the game was so fucking bad then. Still was kinda fun tho.
Don't forget the old Daldari ships and graphics before the update.
>amarr are just diarrhea colored blobs
>4chan wasn't relevant in any stage of the game
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>corp has shield doctrine
>go to logi is osprey
>want to be logibro
>osprey is ugly as fuck
Well then fuck you too ccp
>>
>tfw no qt smartbomb machs to pull 300m/hour in rock havens
foreverial VNI
>>
>salvaging makes 30-100m per hour depending on luck
>vni makes 30m because shit skills
just kill me I suppose
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>>165920985
>Mining Battleships everywhere
>That jump gate sound
>Nos was op as shit
>90% webs on everything, not just Serpentis ships
>Nano everything
>Minmatar players required so much more sp due to half their ships being split-weapons
>Moros had a drone bay and drone damage bonus letting it murder subcaps with ease
>Drone interfacing gave you +1 drone per skill level
Those were the days.
>>
>final advanced military mission
>I get kept literally metres out of fall off range of my weapons by the fucking webifier

I regret the civvy afterburner
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>>165920985
>old caldari
I'm glad they purged that shit. Now they just need to finish the job with the osprey and give.the corm and kestrel a few touchups.
>>
>tfw I'm the only one that loves the Osprey and Caldari's asymmetry in general.
CCP keeps ruining my favourite ships and turning them into generic sci-fi spaceships, no one complained about the Osprey until the Moa was ruined. The only ugly Caldari hull was the Blackbird.
>>
>get wh to sansha space
>fucking nothing to scan
I was promised space riches?
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>>165922586
I love the new caldari aesthetic, but each to their own I guess
>>
Next time I run the SoE epic I'll have to get some damn warp speed rigs for the catalyst and an inertial stab or two
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>>165920985
>>165922150
>mines on gates
>projectile myrmidon
Missed so much good times by subbing intermittently.
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>>165920985
>People transporting shit in caravans of transporters, with scouts and escort?

But this sounds fun.
>>
Only minmatar ships and some gallente ships should have asymmetrical designs

Caldari should be all symmetrical
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>>165923868
why? because most caldari pilots are autistic?
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>>165922693
nvm just made 100mil from 3 sites
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>>165897586
Fuckk I get exited just by seeing these amazing results.
Oh and fuck data sites
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>>165923664
It only sounds fun, anon.
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>>165924078
>unironically not making sure it's not a ghost site or sleeper cache
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Why are caldari so fucking shit in every aesthetic way?

>ship appearance
amarr > gallente = minmatar >>> caldari

>character appearance
gallente = minmatar = amarr >>>>>>> caldari
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>>165924361
>Male Civire
>Not the best
Keep sucking those Brutor dongs, Gallente.
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>>165924478
You got baited.
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>amarr > gallente = minmatar >>> caldari
what did he mean by this
>>
>he
>>
>xe
>>
>Phantasm
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>>165924840
It's fucking amazing
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Why do I hear so many people talk about the Tengu and not other T3Cs? Is it because the Tengu the "best" T3C?
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>>165924971
It's the worst.
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>>165924971
The tengus can do the most. It's the best blops hunter. The best regen rep ship. It can nail shit from 200km with its rails and it dumps dps with missiles and boasts a better shield tank than the loki.

Thr proteus and Legion are pretty similar, they get amazing armor tanks and can hit moderately far with rails/beams. You can do a ham Legion but it's not as good as the ham tengu, you can do a drone proteus but it's pretty shit. All the loki has going for it is armor tank and webs
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>>165924971
It's subliminal advertising.
Join Tengoo
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>>165924971
r/tengoo
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>>165925110

thanks for the help
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>>165924971
tengus are the most S T R A T E G I C
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>>165924971
Shit weapon system, pve boat, forced to armor tank if you want to ewar.
>>
Did the guy give away the rattlesnake?
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>>165926621
>he fell for the retard meme
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>>165916518
basically fucking this lolol now i love being gallente even more.
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>lolol
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>>165928070
>5 letters are enough to trigger him
>>
Are Caldari and Amarr drones shit or something? Why does everyone suggest using just Minmatar or Gallente drones and nothing else?
>>
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6800507
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>>165929361
DPS is better
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>>165929361
gallente drones provide better damage to all targets. They get the job done faster.
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>>165929361
caldari and amarr drones are the best. if you use minmatar and gallente drones you're a fucking pleb
>>
>undock
>2 minutes later still in station
>"oh no it's the lag again"
>screen goes black
>2 minutes of pure blackness it finally renders the outside
>there's nothing there, no station, not even my own ship
>things gradually start appearing and teleporting all over the place
>station appears
>click "Dock"
>my ship instantly teleports 15km away and starts approaching
>everyone was lagging so hard that nobody managed to blap me in time
Fuck. This is worse than usual. What the fuck is going on.
Even tidi didn't kick in until after I docked.
>>
Multiboxing 2 alphas via proxies.
Is there seriously NOTHING besides isboxer that lets me have an interactable cut-out of another client so I don't have to constantly switch to activate guns on a target?
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>>165929461
>>165929523

Thanks for clearing that up
>>
Is buying Plex worth it?
>>
AHK
>>
domination carbonized lead s
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>>165930619
What did he mean by this?
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>not scamming in trade hubs for ez isk.

I have made about 6 BIL in the last week.
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>>165932136
people dont fall for scams
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So as a newbie, is there a certain type of ship I should be flying at each mission mission level, or is it a matter of preference?
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>>165933013
just use the biggest thing possible, there's no downside
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>>165933013
lvl 1 - whatever
lvl 2 - long range cruiser or drone cruiser
lvl 3 - vexor navy
lvl 4 - dominix, then rattlesnake
At that point, you should have figured out what you want to do and will know what next, since you obviously don't want to do missions forever, they are just a stepping stone to get yourself started
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>>165933756
I don't know why you're telling people who aren't necessarily permagrind pve shitters to train for specific ships just for missions, you can do these in anything
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>>165933013
L1 can be done in anything
L2 can usually be done in a dessy or cruiser
L3 BC
L4 BS
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>>165934027
>>165933756
i tried doing a lvl4 in a BC and got royally rekt.
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>>165934249
just means you're bad desu
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>>165934249
Thats because you weren't flying the Meme BC
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>>165932136
That actually sounds like a good plan. Report back on success.
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>>165934249
You're not supposed to do that.
Command ships might do it, or some high SP autistic fits might do it, very very slowly but it is a generally bad idea.
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>>165933756
>>165934027
>>165933119
Great, thank you. Doing three's in a failboat Prophecy right now, with most of my time spent fatting my way around watching my drones kill shit.
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>>165930619
>is giving $20 to a jewish company worth it?
I dunno anon
>>
What missiles should I buy for my light missile launcher I? THis is my first time buying ammo.
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>>165935342
Mjolnir
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>>165935342
light missiles. if you have a bonus to a particular damage type then get that. so for example you'd want scourge on a condor because it's kinetic
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>>165892539
>How viable is it to be a freighter pilot?
High sec hauling doesn't pay much and you'll need 1b for collateral to get started. The go to ship is a DST, I wouldn't bother with freighters unless you're doing industry and even then I'd outsource most hauling.
The big Isk is in market seeding with jump freighters and region trading (and outsourcing the hauling).
>Is there money to be made as a trader?
lots
>I want to RP as a freighter pilot really badly. >Delivering goods around the galaxy.
>
>Or maybe even a smuggler?
You won't regret training for transport ships even if you burn out after a while. If you plan on making decent amounts of Isk with hauling that means thousands of jumps and long hours though. It takes a very special kind of person to go from DST to JF with just the income from courier contracts.
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>>165910780
AWU5 isn't worth training for a very long time. PG hardwirings are cheap.
>>
>join brave
>faff about in querious for a month before getting evicted by broski
>move to fade
>become content for everyone else
>get tired of the brave's safe space meme
>retreat to brave's wh corp
>suffer the same problems as the rest of Brave
>low sp poors everywhere
>get bored
>queue up battleship v
>move all my assets out of the hole
>log off while I decide if I'm sick of eve or sick of Brave

I just want to be elite and play with other elites.
>>
>new gallente skins
>but they're shit
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>>165936832
You're shit
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>>165935342
Thermal damage applies well to most targets, if you are doing PvE you can prepare your ammunition, have this helpful chart I've copypasted from some russian guys bio

Angel Dmg EXP/KIN Resist EXP(62%) KIN(22%) THM(9%) EM(7%)
Blood Dmg EM/THM Resist EM(50%) THM(48%) KIN(2%)
Concord Dmg KIN/THM Resist KIN(37%) THM(32%) EXP(30%) EM(29%)
EoM Dmg KIN/THM Resist KIN(74%) THM(26%)
Guristas Dmg KIN/THM Resist KIN(79%) THM(18%) EM(2%) EXP(1%)
Khanid Dmg EM/THM Resist THM EM
Mercenaries Dmg KIN/THM Resist KIN THM EXP
Mordu's Dmg KIN/EM Resist KIN(70%) THM(30%)
Sansha's Dmg EM/THM Resist EM(53%) THM(47%)
Serpentis Dmg KIN/THM Resist THM(55%) KIN(45%)
Amarr Dmg EM/THM Resist EM(47%) THM(42%) KIN(7%) EXP(4%)
Caldari Dmg KIN/THM Resist KIN(51%) THM(48%) EM(1%)
Gallente Dmg KIN/THM Resist KIN(60%) THM(39%) EM(1%)
Minmatar Dmg EXP/KIN Resist EXP(50%) KIN(31%) EM(12%) THM(7%)
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>>165937338
Fuck off retard
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>>165936832
what skins?
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>>165938794
from leddit http://imgur.com/a/3DzkY
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>>165938843
would be nice without the shitty camo parts. just red flowing into dark blue/black
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>>165938843
>Not showing the Megathron
Reddit, please.
>>
Do I sell my gnosis blueprint or just make 5 gnosii
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>>165936269
>play with other elites
rofl elites don't play the game, and they certainly won't accept random people in
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>>165938843
They're okay. Hopefully they're for an upcoming shekel madness event.
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>>165933013
1 - Destroyer
2 - Destroyer with better skills
3 - Battlecruiser
4 - uninstall the game you're gonna hate yourself if you do nothing but highsec missions for this long.
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>>165939282

how much does BP sell for? How much do Gnosis sell for?
>>
>flying a megathron
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>>165940052
There are no gnosis blueprints in contracts or market. Each gnosis is 39mil
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>>165940045
my biggest problem with doing missions in lowsec is people come and scan you down and fuck your shit up. how are you supposed fend off a pirate when you're fit for PvE?
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>>165940181
It makes a pretty good wormhole roller.
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>>165940301
how much does it cost to produce a gnosis? can you sell them for more than they're worth? Will it exceed the price of the blueprint? Would you like to use a BC that is easy to fly and you can have 4 backup ones?
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>>165935810

I thought hauling contracts were all scams?
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>>165940360
By flying a kite fit, in that situation you can get out 99% of the time before they can tackle you, after all most missions don't let people warp straight on to you, if they try taking gates to get to the pocket your in you'll see them on d-scan a mile away, if they fly one of the meme recons they'll either be too slow or you'll just see them warp in and warp out before they can do jack shit. I used to run besieged Coverts and only one guy ever managed to "catch" me doing it.
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>>165936832

literally all skins are shit and make the shitty ass shit-looking ccp shit space shit ships look even shittier

amarr is the only spek of gold in the crusty turd that is ccp's model design, and even then they're pretty shit desu

not even memeing, everything is fucking brown as shit outside of amarr

hey look i bought a skin for my shit-colored brown ship that recolors the bits of my ship model that were an ok color but keeps the rest of the shit-colored parts brown
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>>165940641
People can be genuinely lazy. I prefer to pay for someone else to move my stuff unless I'm within 10 jumps.
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>>165940360
just do the mission faster, and fly something fucking retarded like a rattlesnake

also the rats will 99% of the time defend you from pvpers even though this makes no sense
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How do I stop having fun thinking about my skills training whilst I proceed to not login for several months at a time...

...and instead start having fun actually playing the fucking game.

I feel like I really like the idea of EVE but I've never played it for more than a week in the past 2 years, despite having an active sub the whole time.
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>space camo
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>>165941478
>autism
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>>165941478
Join a corp.
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>toon
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What guild should I join?
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>>165941929
Spacing Guild
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is CCP nerfing Rorqual mining or they really will let this shit kill the game?
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>>165940641
Who do you think moves everything to Jita/Amarr? Most courier contracts aren't scams.
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Why did people try to create two minmatar trade hubs? Rens and Hek are both so dead.

You can tell how good races are based on trade hubs.
Caldari>Amarr>Gallente>Minmatar
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>>165942141
>CCP
>having an idea how to do anything good for the game
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>>165940637
It costs 1 trit, just wondering if someone will pay a lot for it cause it's a rare blueprint
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who plate+rep here
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Should I bother with an Amarr/Minmatar alpha toon or are they gimped compared to Caldari/Gallente alpha toons?
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>>165942141
They already nerfed it once.
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>>165944614
they still need to remove panic
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>>165944801
I'd be ok if the panic module was unable to be used if more than 2 rorqs are closer than 1000kms to each other
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>>165945052
they already have a ridiculous fucked up tank just in jew mode, they don't need a special invulnerability thing. have a shitty tank and have panic, or have a good tank and don't have panic
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>go exploring
>2 hours pass, finding just one relic (1m) and one data (4m) site
>bookmarks filled with over 50 entries, old holes collapsed already
>"fuck it. this is the last hole I scan"
>2 data sites
>go into one
>face wingspan dressed to kill
>gtfo into some random hole, it collapses
>I JUST WANT OUT
>fully explore 5 wormholes before finally landing a hs connection, find one relic site (19m) on the way
Over 3 hours. For lousy 24m. And almost lost an Astero worth three times this much, twice.

I give up. Explomeme is a joke. Can I get a SP refund?
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Are missiles viable in pvp?
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>>165945231
Make Rorqs unable to receive panic modules bonuses.

There, now your little mining barge friends can run away if you get dropped but the Rorq doesn't get to be hilariously OP.
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>she fell for the astero meme
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>>165945497
Just find better places to explore nigga. Don't go to obvious hisec connected wormholes where wangspin camps all day. Go into some dead lowsec area, look for WHs there.
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>>165945707
it's hilariously OP even on its own, it just tanks too much
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>>165946032
This is first time I meet wingspan in over 30 hours of exploration, I don't think that's the problem.
Also what use is a hole found in dead lowsec, if one connection over the hole's gonna have three hs connections or other BS like that.
There's way too many hs connections, it's unavoidable.
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>>165944223
>toon
kill yourself you fucking shiteating autistic retard
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>>165945704
Only on some very specific ships like Orthrus.
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>>165945704
yes, weapons are viable in pvp
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>>165945704
G A R M U R
A
R
M
U
R

also Cerberus
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>>165945497
>Over 3 hours. For lousy 24m.
Meanwhile I made around 300 millions doing incursions. But I guess you had some fun :^)
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>>165947675
how much time waiting?
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>>165945704

Small missile systems are good.
Medium missiles are shit except for rapid light missiles.
Large missiles are pretty shit except for rapid heavy missiles.
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>>165947830
In waitlist? Like 15 minutes.
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>>165945497
Explo is a gamble. Do pi and rat or just buy plex.
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>Alliances composed of one decently sized corp, a holder corp and a few sub-10 man corps
Is there a reason they don't just merge into the main corp? Do alliances offer any benefit over a corp aside from sov stuff and being able to enter the Alliance Tournament?
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>>165948584

In my experience its just people refusing to let go of their tribal identity from their shitty 5 man corp.
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>>165948584
Probably do it for memes. Also Pandemic Horde, for example, sometimes runs out of slots for people, so that could be an issue too.
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>waah rorq tank is op
>meanwhile rorqs dying left and right
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>>165948846
there's nothing to gain by doing it
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>>165949230
killboards only have killmails on them. they don't show all the failed attempts and rorquals not dying
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>>165949230
>meanwhile there are people with 100+ killmarks on their rorqs
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>omg ccp is denying us easy kills :(((
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>>165947892
>Do pi and rat
Great, so now I train another set of useless skills, while my sub runs out.
Where am I even supposed to set it up?
Am I supposed to build highsec factories and fight the mad poco war, or are you suggesting going wh/null with no corp and no alts?
This won't end well.

>buy plex
I'm the one buying plex. So far EVE has proven not worth a penny.
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>>165949825
>Great, so now I train another set of useless skills, while my sub runs out.
Your own fault for being stupid and not planning ahead.
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>>165949953
>being stupid because can't train both explo and pi at once
OK. Let me see you do it.
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>>165949825
Join a nullbaby alliance and be their problem or google the things you don't know. Do some research you simple fuck.
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>>165949825
>he fell for "buy PLEX" meme
Nigga, I spent like 3 bucks in 2012 on this game bought it on Steam. If you know what you're doing you don't need to spend more money on it.
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>he doesn't know the best isk per hour is a job

Fucking poors.
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>>165949825
>So far EVE has proven not worth a penny.
Then quit and go cry on your mommy's lap. Maybe she'll buy you another game.
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>>165950507
>buy plex with money
>cry about it
i like this meme
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>>165950296
No fuck it. You're the one defending a shit game. Speak your arguments.

>>165950398
I don't know what I'm doing. Nothing makes isk. Followed all memes here and got negative isk shit instead.
Market is oversaturated with people grinding every single possible thing to do in this game that nothing has any value left.
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>>165951158
kys
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>>165951158
Please post your API with the wallet journal and your skills. I want to laugh.
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>>165951751
Don't know what that is and even if I knew I wouldn't give you the satisfaction.
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>>165951158
Exploration meme, gas huffing meme. If you don't mind joining some null sec alliance there's also mining, salvaging, PI. And these are the most obvious ones and they don't even require you to buy PLEX with money, you can do them with alpha account.
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>>165951158
>I'm playing a game I don't enjoy instead of doing other things
>I am too incompetent to play the game mummy hold my hand pls
Can you be even more useless and pathetic?
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>>165951989
>you can do them with alpha account
Except PI, yeah. Forgot about it.
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>>165951989
>PI
>alpha accout
What did he mean by this?
>mining in a venture
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>>165952273
Too slow. And a venture works if you're meme huffing.
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>>165951158
I'm not defending anything. It's difficult to start making money in eve. You're too low on sp to make any significant amount.

When I was around 9m sp I decided I liked eve and bight like 30 plex and injected into everything I wanted to fly at the time. Now I'm at around 90m sp and can buy plex with isk any time but I choose to just pay the sub and use the isk to fly spaceships.
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gas is not a meme
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>>165951989
Exploration and gas huffing memes are the ones that brought me to this brink of quitting.
There's no isk here, I can do what? 50m a month?
What use is subbing if you need years worth of omega skills to make it worthwhile?

Alpha state tricked me into thinking there's more game out there. Turns out there isn't. Omega is the same as alpha, except with extra increased efficiency in grinding.

>>165952136
This is why I'm quitting.
You can call your game "hardcore" if that will make you feel better.
It's definitely too "hardcore" for me.
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>>165951158
listen bud I made enough money in month to get plex and 2 skill injectors by exploring and I'm not even a vet, I literally started playing last month. AND I had time to join a low sec corp and roam around killing stuff and exploding. No, I don't play 24/7. You are just incompetent. I bet you never achieved anything worthwhile in your life and thought you can do something in Eve, but this game won't just handle everything to you on a silver platter like WoW. If you don't even enjoy this game why are you trying to play it? Nothing will change if you get a BS or a carrier. Just leave and go fap and cry yourself to sleep. All the possibilities to do something with your life are gone. You will not find redemption in this game. Accept you are a failure and continue leeching. Or admit you lost at life and kill yourself, this would would be better without you.
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>>165952608
>its too hard for me because I'm lazy that means its hard for everyone!
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>>165952997
>gas huffing memes
>50m a month
What did he mean by this?
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>>165953031
>reading comprehension
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>gas huffing skill costs 27 gorillian dollars

is it worth it?
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>>165953285
Yeah. But only if you do more than 1-2 sites per month.
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>>165953203
No you're literally a fucking lazy crybaby

Theres tons of shit you could easily do, you get up to 5m SP in almost every facet of the game to make money, do all sorts of shit and even then you're bitching that a trial account is limited to trial features (which is actually a boat load)

>>165953285
one celadon cytocerocin site will put you over and make that back easily
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>>165953285
If you actually go huff gas yes. It pays itself off in one or two sites. Just remember to look up what gas is in which site, and what rats they spawn. One of them has turrets already in it so just avoid those. And make sure your venture is gtfo fit since there are no gas huffing rigs/mods.
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>>165953285
Its good but ninja huffing is not worth of it in my opinion.
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>>165953376
I think you think I'm the whiney cunt going on about how it sucks to be poor. I'M the cunt who skipped all that and injected into incursions and c4 ratting with my credit card.
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>>165953679
>>165953882
non-wormhole space exists
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>>165953941
Yeah but kspace sucks.
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have you ever been scammed, /eog/?
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>>165954872
Where did the scammer touch you, anon?
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>come back to game
>billions and billions in nullsec outposts
I shoulda hauled that shit out before I stopped logging in.
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>>165954872
No, because I'm not a retard.
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>missiles that aren't rapid hitlers
>viable
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hml bellicose
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>if it's not overpowered babby shit it's not viable
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>followed 30 day skill plan to cover the basics
>actually have to decide what I wanna do now
guys help
what do you guys do for income to plex? I doubt everyone is explomemers.
Only thing I've been putting more emphasis on is leveling Drones to V and unlocking heavies
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>She doesn't fly rocket Kestrels
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>>165953906
>how it sucks to be poor

No I'm saying you're a lazy cunt who can't figure out how to make money simply and easily
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>>165955764
I mean basically yeah.
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>>165955820
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5o9ucz/diary_of_an_alpha_clone_multi_billionaire_in_43/

simple little guide someone followed to becoming a multibillionaire in less than 60 days.

>>165955882
rocket kestrels are shit and do no DPS
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>>165955764
Its not viable because it can't compete with everyone else using the overpowered babby shit.

get fuckin good, the world of eve doesn't revolve around your shit fits. go cry about getting blobbed by 100 NC carriers or 200 fucking PL T3C's
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>I can't fit cruise to my battleship because all these rapid heavy battleships will appear and kill me
>>
>skill plans
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>>165956768
Thats not the point, its that you get shit on by a superior fleet concept because you either

A. got flat out played
B. got hard countered
C. for some reason took a fight which you knew you were going to lose
or D. all of the above and you brough shit fits to fleet
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>He doesn't fit torpedoes and a fuckload of webs/painters
Man up
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>>165956768
More like
>I shouldn't put torpedos on my raven because torps are shit and if I encounter cruisers its going to be really hard to try and apply damage to them
>>
>fleet

but high application babbyshit weapons aren't good in fleets
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>>165957097
>really hard to apply damage to them

grappler, scram and standard crash. wow that was hard. and why are you expecting to deal full damage to a ship class below yours, like it's some kind of problem if you don't?
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>>165957081
>I'm SOOOOO effective outside of 10km with my webs guise!
>torpedo hits for 57 damage to enemy cruiser

>>165957130
I didn't know medium rails, heavy beams were shit

Lemme call up PL, NC, Goons, SC and everyone in between to stop using 250mm railguns, heavy beams, 800mm autocannons and 425mm railguns because they're apparently shit according to some rando on /eog/
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>>165957284
medium rails and heavy beams aren't shit retard, they are cruiser weapons on cruisers. the weapon I'd be talking about as shit in fleets would be rapid lights and rapid heavies, or maybe range fitted scorch pulses
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>>165957283
>implying you can catch them
a real fleet with a good FC would have logi and make sure to stay outside of scram/web range to deny you damage

> and why are you expecting to deal full damage to a ship class below yours, like it's some kind of problem if you don't?

didn't say that, I merely made the suggestion that you shouldn't use ships and weapons when you know your primary encounter is going to be ship classes beneath yours
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>>165956287
>the trick to good money is to join a corp
I knew it. This game isn't for me.
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>>165957416
>no those particular weapons I generalized don't count because I said so even though I'm a fucking retard

Yea those SC 800mm autocannon machariels are just so shit aren't they? Those nightmares with tachyons? Yea they're just awful
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>>165957530
You either join a corp or you stop being retard. If you can't do any of these, then yeah, it's not for you, unfortunately.
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>>165957565
>I generalized

you are a fucking retard. I said high application, right. I meant rapid missiles. I don't know why you would think that means tachyons unless you're retarded
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>>165957284
>SC
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>>165957746
>What I meant was rapid missiles
Why don't you just say that then?

>high application
so medium weapon systems aren't high application or they are?
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>>165957818
>those textures

Are you playing on a calculator?
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>>165957565
>SC 800mm autocannon machariels are just so shit aren't they?
I think the whole point of those ships is really the retarded tank and refits options.
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>>165957927
Yea
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>Null blobber fleets
>Relevant
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>>165957629
I don't want to join a corp because I'm retarded to the point that my mere presence is a burden to everyone in 35 AU radius.
Wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemies.

If I knew how to stop being retarded I would.
Self help books are no use :(
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>>165957921
My pc pretty much runs every game on high or max, put this one on medium since game was having random freezes for no reason... honestly don't know what the fuck is up...
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>>165958072
Define "relevant"
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>>165958072
>the games biggest fleets, biggest battles, most iconic losses, victories and everything in between aren't relevant because I'm a shit eating retard

Yea watch Forbes write an article about your gay ass "small gang" with no logi
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>>165958107
Recently people have been getting used to alphas who know literally nothing about the game, you can't possibly be worse than what they've been exposed to already.
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>>165958072
SC exclusively blobs pocos m8.
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>>165958107
Join Pandemic Horde, people there don't mind if you're retarded or new player or whatever.
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>>165957818
>gallente
>textures
I think you should just uninstall and never come back.
tfw Gallente are actually the best alpha race. CCP are Gallente shills
Caldari tutorial FC is my waifu
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>>165958175
What do you normally play? Fucking Quake II and Dark Forces?
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>>165957857
why didn't you just complain about that rather than having a big sperg?

>so medium weapon systems aren't high application or they are?

they are all average. they are appropriate application for their ship size. rapids stand out because they have like 10x the application that an appropriately sized weapon would have at that class

rapids are overpowered, but they're also for retards if you're flying in the presence of more than a couple of people, because damage application in eve is trivially easy
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>>165958246
sheep
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>>165958502
>why didn't you just complain about that rather than having a big sperg?
nice comeback, you got any other retarded shit to try and throw back?

>they're all average
ok so you're retarded because you're back to making umbrella terms over swathes of weapon systems like "average"

>rapids are overpowered
post lossmail
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>>165958465
Was running Bf1 on high and ultra at 60-80 fps last fkn night.
>>
>it's an "eog has an spergfest over terminology" episode
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>>165958660
>nice comeback, you got any other retarded shit to try and throw back?

what are you talking about

>ok so you're retarded because you're back to making umbrella terms over swathes of weapon systems like "average"

if you compare all medium weapons including rapid lights, you will clearly see that one of these is not like the others. same with bs weapons including rapid heavies. I described these as 'high application', and here we are 10 posts later still going over this because it really upset you for some reason

>post lossmail
kys ingame
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>>165958829
>terminology

>yea you know ALL that shit is just shit
>even this?
>NUUUUU THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT I MMEANT RAPIDS
>oh why didn't you say that?
>UR A SPERG
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>>165958868
>you will clearly see that one of these is not like the others
yea, unlike rapids I won't run out of ammo in 10 seconds. my ship will actually survive the entire barrage

>same with rapid heavies
heavies are shit what are you talking about lol no one uses rapid heavies for shit.

Post ONE fucking after action battlereport of battleships using rapid heavies
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>>165958261
Y-you think so?
So what corp should I be looking for?
Something in null if I'm chasing isk and am a risk averse faggot?

>>165958326
Won't that permanently ruin my reputation or something?
Excuse me I have no idea how any of this works.
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>>165958875
you actually are though

you misunderstand the simplest shit, then you have a big aspie fit about it

>>165959042
>yea, unlike rapids I won't run out of ammo in 10 seconds. my ship will actually survive the entire barrage

I don't know what you're trying to say here exactly

>heavies are shit what are you talking about lol no one uses rapid heavies for shit.

ok

>Post ONE fucking after action battlereport of battleships using rapid heavies

if you go through the losses of missile bs I think about half of them will have rapid heavies
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>>165959136
Only autistic shit would care what you have in your corp history.
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>>165959213
>make broad generalization
>surprised when someone points out a blatant exception
>ur a sperg
theres nothing sperg about you being a retard making retarded generalizations instead of just saying what you wanted to say.

>I think about half them will be rapid heavies
post ONE fucking after action battlereport of battleships using rapid heavies
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>>165959406
>points out a blatant exception

that's what you think you did, but you didn't

>theres nothing sperg about you being a retard making retarded generalizations instead of just saying what you wanted to say.

there's something extremely sperg about you getting this mad that I said "high application weapons" to describe rapids. just calm down and kys

>post ONE fucking after action battlereport of battleships using rapid heavies

why?
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>>165959352
Yes I think so.
But is this kind of autism prevalent in EVE is what I'm trying at. Do you know?
>>
How was your day fellow capsuleer?
https://zkillboard.com/related/30002433/201701182000/
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>>165959556
>why?
You claim that battleships use them all the time and they're OP as shit
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>>165960691
I'm not going to search zkill for you. you will see rapids all the time on barghests and typhoon fleets for sure, and probably at least half the time on other missile bs, unless they're in huge blobs
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>>165956115

lol you're replying to the wrong person you silly retard
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>>165960193
Most people won't care, some people do. It depends on who you want to stick with.
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>>165956115
>>165961269
I don't think he is. I think he's just upset that I skipped all the low sp bullshit he had to go through because I'm a functional adult.
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>>165960893
>make a claim
>proof?
>I'm not gonna provide evidence of my claims for you

oh so any claim without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
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>>165961582
I'm more interested in talking about how good or bad things are than about how popular they are

it would really be easier for you to just go to zkill than keep writing these shitty posts though
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>>165961341
Ok. I'll do some research and hopefully find a corp to join.
Thanks.
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>>165961739
>I'm more interested in talking about how good or bad things are than about how popular they are
Thats not what you said earlier, you said that Rapid Heavies are OP as shit as some sort of claim that everyone uses them and yet you can only speak of the bhargest and TFI of using them which is still bullocks as you haven't provided any evidence. So you went way out of your way to make a generalized claim you couldn't even back up, because EVERYONE is flying bhargests's these days right?
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>>165961739
>it would be easier for you
If its so easy why can't you do it?
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>>165961947
I can't even remember how we got onto this. I imagine it was something like this
>nobody even uses these
>yes they do, and that isn't relevant
>OMG EVIDENCE

>>165962097
I'm not the one who gives a shit
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>>165962632
>make a claim
>proof?
>I shouldn't have to look these up for you, its easy!
>if its so easy why don't you do it?
>I DONT GIVE A SHIT REEEEE
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>>165962915
https://zkillboard.com/ there's a search box in the top right
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>it's retards arguing about how useless missiles are episode
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>>165963107
we're not even really talking about anything. I said some stuff, and this guy is having communication difficulties and getting all mad for some reason
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>>165963093
>you look it up
I didn't claim that rapid heavies were OP and everyone uses it
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>>165963353
how popular they are isn't really relevant to how overpowered they are. I probably just said people use them all the time because you asked because you think it matters
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>>165954872
I fell for a courier scam when I was new. I assumed that you couldn't make highsec stations undockable.
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>>165963561
>they're overpowered
>but no one uses them
so it sounds like its a non-issue, not a problem and not worth discussing. They apply just like regular heavy missiles and they're just as shit.

Stop crying faggot
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>>165963743
I'm not crying. and they do apply too well because they apply better than cruise missiles and torps
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>>165954872
I entered into a "practice duel" with someone when i was new, he killed my ship of course.
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>>165963901
>they do apply too well
Oh so regular heavy missiles ALSO apply too well? They have the same stats you fucking retard.

>they apply better than the cruiser missiles and torps
torps do fuckloads more damage, scram web them faggot. Cruise missiles have fuck tons more alpha and apply great even to cruisers, they have like 50% more explosion velocity than torps
>>
Is it worth just biting the bullet, buying a POS for reactions only, and selling it when the citadel equivalent comes out? I'm making T3 components and there's just not enough margins to justify not making my own Fullerite goo when I live in a WH and have access to gas sites/people who run gas sites.
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>>165964278
>Oh so regular heavy missiles ALSO apply too well? They have the same stats you fucking retard.

regular heavy missiles are fired from heavy missile launchers, from cruisers. rapid heavy missile launchers are for battleships. battleships should have less application than cruisers because that's the way the game works

>torps do fuckloads more damage, scram web them faggot. Cruise missiles have fuck tons more alpha and apply great even to cruisers, they have like 50% more explosion velocity than torps

yes, I know
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>rapid heavies are OP despite no one using them
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>>165964476
>CCP please cater to me and my dumb ideas
>they're overpowered because I said so even though no one uses them and they've never been used in any fleet engagement
>this one time a bhargest used rapid heavies on my cruiser and I didn't like it so CCP pls nerf them

Heavy missiles apply like ass to cruisers no matter what fucking launcher you run them from. They do ass DPS and have had ass application since 2012 after the drake nerf

They only apply mildly better than cruise missiles.

You have no proof that they're OP
You have no proof that "everyone uses them"
You have absolutely nothing but your made up conjecture
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>>165965159
>proof of a thing being OP in a videogame

how does this work?

>>they're overpowered because I said so even though no one uses them and they've never been used in any fleet engagement

I'm pretty sure I've said they are bad in fleets
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>>165965315
>how does this work?
It would be obvious that something is overpowered when every one in the game recognizes it to the point that everyone uses it.

Like Heavy Missile Drakes pre 2012, Rapid Light Caracals, ishtars pre 2015, dual nano hurricanes, etc.

No one fucking uses rapid heavies but the pirate battleships and they're niche at best. They're not OP at all, they still apply like shit and have shit DPS. Theres a huge difference between rapid lights on caracals that shit down frigs neck's because they apply perfectly and rapid heavies that do ass dps, have ass application and don't do shit to cruisers
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Is it too hard to ask for simple, bright gallente recolors a la Raata sunset and purity cheapshit instead of shit colored gradient camo blobs?
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>>165965635
prove that those things are overpowered
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>>165965315
>this bhargest that does just over 600dps for a battleship is overpowered because it used rapid heavies
They're shit dude, the bhargest gets a HUGE damage bonus of 10% vs every other battleship getting only 5%

The TFI isn't much different

>>165965983
how about the fact that EACH of those things I listed got adopted as the preferred fleet for every alliance big and small and that there were no direct counters or ways to out play it to the point that CCP nerfed each and every one of them (except rapid lights which have been planned to be nerfed to fuck)
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>>165966742
how popular something is is irrelevant, and we're talking about something that is not even good in fleets

>just over 600dps

where are you getting this from? eft says 934 non-reload dps with 3 bcs on faction heavies, for a total of 63725 damage per load

>except rapid lights which have been planned to be nerfed to fuck

I fully expect them to take 3 years to come up with a nerf that won't even do anything

I can only imagine rhmls don't seem powerful to you because you think cruisers are ships with 150k ehp and 90% resists, or ships with bc tank and 800 dps at 60km, or I guess because you're a fleet fag. these weapons make the game far too easy, if you want to fly a battleship you should have to put up with battleship damage application
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>>165964375
bumping this post because it got drowned in missile autism.
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>>165954872
not scammed. but i accidentally missed a zero on a sell order once and since some guy had a stupidly low buy order I lost major ISK.
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>>165967336
>how popular something is is irrelevant
No its extremely relevant, the overpowered things become the most used things. the community and CCP as a whole recognizes this, complains about it and eventually it gets nerfed.

>934
yea without a fucking reload
>63k damage
Paper damage, you aren't applying 100% your damage at ANY time, because heavies apply like shit even to cruisers you're going to lose some 50% of that. Why don't you fucking project the graphs of it.

No one uses RHML
No one uses any fleet with them
No one gives a shit
They aren't OP because no one uses them

Fuck off with your EFT-warrior shit
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>no one uses rhml
what
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CCP should make Eve an E S P O R T
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Evesport
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>>165969285
Heres a graph with the Bhargest fit with all RHML's, faction ammo and 3 BCS's while including reload

You lost HALF your fucking DPS and now you're barely doing 300 on a cruiser size target.
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>>165970112
they would 100% need a spectator UI.
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Is the kestrel any good at pvp?
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How should I get into ratting as a new character?
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>>165973038
Depends on how you run it and what you engage

the rockets get out to about 15km at max skills. Your DPS tops at about 105dps again assuming max skills. 100 ish DPS isn't that great but you better load the right ammo so you do maximum damage against a target through their resist hole.

Otherwise its not good in any other scenario IMO. Light missiles do too little DPS on the kestrel and eat way too much fitting in order to be good.

theres one streamer who runs dual web, scram and 1mn AB with a 400mm plate in the lowslots. Be wary of all laser ships as beams can easily match your range in every situation
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>>165973261
vexor
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>>165973261
listen bud I made enough money in month to get plex and 2 skill injectors by ratting and I'm not even a vet, I literally started playing last month. AND I had time to join a null sec corp and roam around killing stuff and exploding. No, I don't play 24/7. You are just incompetent. I bet you never achieved anything worthwhile in your life and thought you can do something in Eve, but this game won't just handle everything to you on a silver platter like WoW. If you don't even enjoy this game why are you trying to play it? Nothing will change if you get a BS or a carrier. Just leave and go fap and cry yourself to sleep. All the possibilities to do something with your life are gone. You will not find redemption in this game. Accept you are a failure and continue leeching. Or admit you lost at life and kill yourself, this would would be better without you.
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>>165973386
Would condor be better?
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>>165974061
No, the condor has less launchers and less tank. It'd work worse as a rocket launcher ship and a LML condor doesn't work very well. The condor is better as a raw tackler for fleets not exactly good for solo pvp
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>>165974180
Okay, How would the Kestrel compare to a Merlin with blasters?
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explain to me command bursts and what happened to warfare links!
I was training to use links, and now they're GONE! wtf
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>>165974392
I think it compares very well. the typical blaster merlin only has a range of less than 5km. If they bring Null ammo they can do 6-7 but the falloff doesn't go very far. If you can web down a merlin and keep yourself at range you should do excellently against it.
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>>165974459
command burst is the same thing as warfare link except doesn't need proper rank in fleet and only boosts ships in fleet that are 15km away
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>>165974459
and also why training time for titans has decreased so drastically.
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>>165974689
they removed one of the 30 day skills associated with command bursts
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>>165973261
Drones V
Heavy Drones
Get the other drone support skills and galle cruiser to 3
Weapon Upgrades IV for t2 drone damage amplifiers

then join a null corp with a pve pocket that doesnt have neutrals at all hours of the day
https://zkillboard.com/system/30003698/
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fuck off kaile
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FUCK

OFF

KEVIN
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>being a null baby
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>>165969285
>>165970842
>look at my graph
>fuck off with your eft warrior shit

if you can't apply the majority of hml dps to cruisers then kys shitter

and loads of people use rhml
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>highsec
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>being a russian faggot
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>>165976325
>if you can't apply the majority of hml dps to cruisers then kys shitter
Or don't use heavies because they're shit and get easily negated

>loads of people use RHML
proof?
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>>165976686
Any missile battleship except the typhoon is rhml you faggot
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>Open launcher
>"Purging extra files"

What did it mean by this
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>>165973261
""AFK""
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o-ok...
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???
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>>165979029
>2 drones
What kind of rocks can I expect in a t1 cruise t1 warden rattle?
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>>165980369
>rocks
I meant ticks.
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>>165979029
after about 30 hours my drones pulled aggro only once on the initial wave
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>think of a name, logo, and headquarters location for your corporation

THIS IS ABSOLUTE HELL!! HAve any of you started a corporation? how did you go about picking a name? Ive only got some generic name but im not sure i wanna use it. or shouyld a corporation name be generic?
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>>165975772
> join a null corp with a pve pocket that doesnt have neutrals at all hours of the day
Fucking rock muncher shitting up my ratting sessions so I can't even afk in peace
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>>165980698
"SUX DIX 4 ISK" with pony on the logo and HQ in Uedama.
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>>165979428
>high sec exploration
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>>165976686
>proof?

do you not know how to search on zkill? you can just type in ship types

>Or don't use heavies

you aren't going to apply damage better with any other battleship weapon
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>>165981813
Nullsec*, got 2.7mil from that one, but the next was pic related.
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>tfw too shy to join a corp
>everyone tells you you need to use voice comms to play EVE
>get bored after 2 months in NPC corp
>apply to large nullsec corp because they don't do interviews
>no one cares if you speak as long as you can listen
>they'll even type out orders if you pretend to be deaf
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>>165982203
>do you not know how to search on zkill? you can just type in ship types
You make it sound so easy, why can't you do it exactly?

>you aren't going to apply any better.

Sure I will because I'm not a shitter and I bring webs and paints and my cruise missiles aren't going to fucking have to reload for 40 seconds every time I run out. Which you fucking will with rhml
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>>165847424

Who fails to kill a pod like that?
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>>165982587

> Unironically Looting Rubble
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DEAD GAME
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Would it be worth saving up the 8 bil to set up and Abzel with a market hub and basically have a steady income for the rest of forever?
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>>165986301
its basically free money. It takes zero effort to get it.
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I have too many ships scattered about the cluster. How can i quickly get them to one location without having to make a hundred trips? Im trying to get ALL my shit in one spot.
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>>165987867
Contract off everything you can't be bothered to move.
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>>165987867
contracts
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>>165988020
Doesn't it cost nothing to move it to a station in the same system?
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never 4get
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no.gf is a cancer to humanity.
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oneiros
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>>165989902
>Doesn't it cost nothing to move it to a station in the same system?
I need details. Please. You have no idea how important this is to me.
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>>165992034
https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289365

After 5 days a player can choose to have the assets delivered to an NPC station, outpost, or Citadel in the same system the assets were originally located, free of charge. If this option is not used, then the assets will be delivered after additional 20 days to the nearest NPC station, by AU, and the player will have to pay 15% of the assets' value to release them from asset safety.
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What are some good low sec entities to join?
Preferred no crazy entry requirements.
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r8 Shitfit
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>>165992760
Plexodus or Rapid Withdrawal
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>pocos
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>>165992760
A fac war group, absolutely.
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>micro-gang
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>not a femto-gang
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>>165995930
both gay as shit
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>>166001960
t. JustCuck member
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>>165995930
How about Escalating Entropy
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>>166002001
what's that
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>>166002573
used to have standards for entry but it's all gone out the window now
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I WISH THE RATTLESNAKE, GILA, WORM, BHAALGHORN, VIGILANT, VINDICATOR, VEHEMENT, VENDETTA AND VANQUISHER WERE NOT JUST THE SAME EMPIRE SHIPS WITH A PAINT JOB LAZILY SLAPPED ON AND ACTUALLY HAD THEIR OWN MODELS
THANK YOU CCP
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>>166005046
>RATTLESNAKE, GILA, WORM
But that's their lore, they're stolen designs
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The serpentis, blood raiders and guristas aren't going to waste resources redeveloping their ship hulls just to appease an angry autist on a cantonese internet chatroom though. Think of the lore, anon.
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>>166005231
At least put their own spin on, small alterations like those between the moa and onyx, merlin and hawk, especially the serpentis ships, gallente ships are already so dark the serpentis skins aren't even visible
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>4 unscanned sites
>Only 2 of them are relics

How do you guys put up with this?
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>>166005723
Explorer here.
You do the relics and move on.
It's a matter of luck, and also a matter of skill in hacking the sites. However, you gotta pray to RNGesus for good site spawns.

Also, if you haven't already, make sure you set up Pirate's Little Helper, Tripwire and Eve dotlan before every jump you make.
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I just finished tutorial or whatever is it
Which career should I choose? I'm playing f2p version(idk if it's worth it playing free, and I have no idea what is difference)
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>>166008201
Try out all the career missions, they will give you a taste of some things you can do ingame. If you like the idea of pvp you may want to check out corps(like guilds in wow) such as: Pandemic Horde, Brave Newbies, and some others that people can suggest. If you like the exploration stuff then you should get in a T1 exploration frig and take a dip into lowsec or nullsec or wormholes. Playing f2p is a good way to see if the game is for you, but what skills you can level are capped so you have to subscribe to git gud at something.

If you want you can message Matthew Ostrow ingame and I can answer some of your questions.
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>>166008627
>newbro
>T1 frig without cloak in wormholes

you evil, evil man
wormholes are great for going into null, but exploring in one without a cloak is a quick trip to the home station
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>>166008951
That's what I meant but I can see how it didn't come off like that. The main thing is just getting out of your comfort zone while new. You will be able to replace your ship with like one site. Exploration without a covops cloak is pretty cancer though.
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>>they'll even type out orders if you pretend to be deaf
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What's the best ship for just mjd/warpin/flying out to 150km and full clearing l4s from stupid high range where nothing can hit you?

I don't want to have to move or think about what I'm doing, or micromanage shit, or worry about THEY GON KIL UR DRONS - L4s are mindless enough already, I'd rather they just be a semi-afk grind by just targetting and popping shit over and over whilst never having to worry about groups or tanking.
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>>166010137

Oh and because you're all autists who start shitting themselves and calling your mothers to help clean you up over semantics, no, not exactly 150km, that was just an example.
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>>165987056

There a about a billion market citadels in hisec, so you're forced to set your taxes as low as possible (0.1%) to attract any customers, which means you're very unlikely to make the fuel costs back.
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>>166010137

Golem/paladin probably
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>>166010137
Just get a well-tanked rattlesnake (Pith X-type) and do it up close with permatank.

If you want to do shit half-afk, missions are going to be shit money for that. Go join a NS corp and rat anoms.
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hi posting here for my white stag exit bag pap link

1/4
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>>166011764
X for PAP

tyvm

gf
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>>165871218
Is your name Dakron or something? Cause I'm a noob and put a killright on someone for killing me in wh or low-sec space while i was in my astero
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>>166012598
>Cause I'm a noob
Let me help you then. Locking a pod before it warps off is near impossible for anything not specifically designed to lock small targets quickly. If you know you're going to lose your ship you should hold down S and spam left click on a warpable object before you pop, you should nearly always be able to save your pod like this.
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Do I get a pap link for PI?
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>>166013134
>my alliance is so bad that we can't measure activity I kills so we have to have pap links because we always bring way too many people to fight so no one fights
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>sent an ISK doubler guy 10 million ISK
>"sorry u didn't read the rules in my bio so i'm gonna keep it"
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What the fuck is a pap
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>>166015513
They're like good boy points.
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>>166015391
you got scammed, but I am an honest ISK tripler, there are no rules, just send me your ISK and I'll send you triple the amount!
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>>166015574
Nullblobber alliances actually treat their members like little kids? What rewards do you get for 100 paps or whatever?
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>>166015858
You don't get kicked.
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>Personal Insurance is now available as a standard NPC service in all Upwell structures (Corporation insurance will come in a later release after some underlying blockers have been resolved).

Fucking finally
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>>165982626
Knew you faggot wasn't deaf. Glad that I didn't fall for this meme.
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>>166016021
Now I feel sorry for them.
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>>166005046
a simple solution would be to delete these ships, since they're so overpowered anyway
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>>166017320
t. poor
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>>166017382
t. gay
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>have billions of isk
>forced to fly stabbers and merlins because anon in /dog/ is asshurt
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>>166017534
t. gay
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>hey FC, can i bring [cool ship x]
>no anon, we are men of honor. We follow very strict rules of engagement. We can't allow to get into an unfair fight! We have to make sure both sides are evenly shit
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>oh a t1 frigate roam
>can I bring my chremoas? if you say no you have autism or something
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>he doesn't bring huginns on a rupture/caracal roam
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I started playing with steam, and now I've read OP post that it gets 250000 SP
Is it worth it to do it standalone account?
Cash flow for Capsuleers 8 is my last mission, not sure if those SP do a lot
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>>166018170
>he causes the fleet to be less engageable and then memes about it on r/dog
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>>166018176
it's worth it if you haven't played for 3-4 days as an omega or a week as an alpha yet

im just sort of guessing it but that's about it i think
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>>166018253
I played like 5 hours, so not that much lost
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>waah my 100mn bullshit gang can't risklessly kill your t1 roam, what a fuckign non engageable gang :(
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>>166018253
>as an omega or a week as an alpha yet
I don't even know what is that
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>>166018312
yeah, refer yourself then and go for it
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>he doesn't bring bellicose on a frigate roam
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>koral123
>Imp

>Thrasher
>Coercer
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>Want to do a t1 cruiser roam
>FC insists on bringing logi/t3/faction shit
I miss flying "uncool" stuff.
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>>166018526
>have lots of ships for no-logi kitchen sink fun fleets
>people only want to fly bullshit t3 fleets with infinite logi

feels bad hanging with shitters
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Dat shadow
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>>166018734
Say what you will about citadels, they are fucking gorgeous to look at.
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>>166018816
fortizar a cute
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>>166018504
>spend 120 billions on a ship
>not even purple fit
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>>166018504
>Этo пpocтo лoл, cлитьcя нa Typнaмeнт шипe, двyм бoмжaм нa т1 дecтpaх :D
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>>166018902
Where is this from?
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>koral123 > it died because of rubberbanding

lol ccp
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>Download game
>Realize huge potential awesomeness
>Sub for 2 months
>Literally spend 2 months stationspinning in PH GME PVE pocket learning VNI skills and then rat 5 times and quit

This game fucking sucks.

Let me level up skills in a way that isn't autistic then get back to me.
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>>166019579
kill yourself autist
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>>166019579
rofl u dumb nigga
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>>166019579
Buy sp nigga
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>>166019579
(You)
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>>166019579
you know you can level your skills without waiting right
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>le i joined null day 1 meem
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>>166019640
>>166019672
>>166019746
>>166019786
Grinding Skill Injectors is retarded.
I have no influence on how fast I can progress in this shit game. I just have to load up a skill queue and sub for 3 years. Pathetic.

I don't care how you justify it, but it's just pathetic. It makes the game crawl.

Being PvP tackle fodder is not fun. Using big ships with big battles with everything running at a snails pace is not fun.

The people who play EVE must have never played any other good mmo in their entire life because it's literal dog shit kept afloat by whales and Russians with shit computers.

Deal with it.
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>eve
>level up
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>>166019959
undock and play the game you faggot autist

>Being PvP tackle fodder is not fun

kys
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>>166019959
>i can't enjoy the game unless I ''''progress'''' in it
reconsider your life desu
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>>166019959
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>>166019959
Which other mmos do you think are good?
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>>166020253
SWG, LOTRO, WoW, PoE, etc, etc, etc.
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I'm not even going to dignify that bait with a you.
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>>166020337
>PoE
>MMO
>good
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>poe
>mmo
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>>166020337
>WoW
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>>166020337
>poe
what did he mean by this?
shit list and underage bait, pretty sure you never even played swg before it went to shit, kys
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>other good mmo
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>>166020337
As someone playing WoW while I wait for every racial battleship v to train, WoW isn't good.

Edge hunters are fun though.
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>small scale cooperativey pve grind games
>mmo
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>>166020337
>WoW
have to grind quests to level, then grind rep and dungeons to gear up, then actually get access to "fun" content aka raids which you have to grind to gear up to have fun in other raids
>Eve
Grinding isk for injectors to "lvl up" is retarded!
And all I can do in eve is grind or be a fodder!

You are retarded. Please consider killing yourself. Or don't and just do it.
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/eog/ is one of the easiest generals to bait and trigger huh
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>"fun" content aka raids

I'm dying
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>not realising when you're being counterbaited
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>i waz baitng xDd
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>>166019959
listen bud I made enough money in month to get plex and 2 skill injectors by exploring and I'm not even a vet, I literally started playing last month. AND I had time to join a low sec corp and roam around killing stuff and exploding. No, I don't play 24/7. You are just incompetent. I bet you never achieved anything worthwhile in your life and thought you can do something in Eve, but this game won't just handle everything to you on a silver platter like WoW. If you don't even enjoy this game why are you trying to play it? Nothing will change if you get a BS or a carrier. Just leave and go fap and cry yourself to sleep. All the possibilities to do something with your life are gone. You will not find redemption in this game. Accept you are a failure and continue leeching. Or admit you lost at life and kill yourself, this would would be better without you.
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>>166021057
That actually sounds like a good plan. Report back on success.
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>>166021057
I like this dank new meme.
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can someone explain the drone pve meme to me again?

every time I launch heavies, the entire site melts them
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>>166021428
Wait for them to target your ship, then send the drones.
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>>166021658
I do that. then they all simultaneously delock my ship and melt my drones
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>>166021742
What kinda sites are you running?I've always done that without a problem. Maybe wait just a bit longer before sending drones?
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>>166021910
happens with all combat sites I've tried when the rats aren't instapop-tier
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>>166021952
Have you tried docking up, leaving the ship and reentering it?
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>>166022146
not deliberately, but I've been trying these sites for a few days now and I've been in and out of this ship all the time
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>>166021742
Maybe you're orbiting too far? I usually 30-40km away from them.
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>>166022336
I've tried getting right up close, it doesn't matter
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>>166023197
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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>>166023646
it's ok I'm not mad anymore
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I tried doing a level 1 mission and I got rekt. What am I supposed to be doing after finishing the care eer agents? Sitting around learning skills?
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>>166024908
you can do level 1 missions in anything. you must be doing it wrong

and sitting in station learning skills is always the wrong thing to do
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>silence the informant
Do I turn it in or farm? Guaranteed 15-25m for 5 minute effort (clearing first room) repeatable every day for a week.
Only downside is I lose one mission agent for a week.

Seems pretty legit, 105-175m in 35 minutes total and done quicker than blitzing.
It's spread in time, but I don't mind.
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>>166025202
>15-25m

I miss when they were 11m a pop.
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>>166024908
>got rekt doing a lvl 1 mission
how?
you can do them in a corvette
Are you brain damaged?
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>>166021428
You need a gun or some sort of EWAR(point, ECM, painter, sensor damp) to draw aggro from the room.
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>>166025202
>agent asks you to silence the informant
>don't
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>>166025405
used both at the same time, did nothing
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Is it worth cross training racial ships? The Tristan seems nice.
>>
>>166025504
sure. training for bigger ships is fairly pointless except for pve and blobbing
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>>166025504
I mean... yes? Eventually you'll want to fly Gallente shit and pirate ships anyway.
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>>166025431
>Eliminate this threat as soon as possible to ensure that he doesn't get the information to DED agents.
>Delay as much as possible and eliminate a week later
Very lore :^)
>>
>wanting to fly pirate ships
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>>166027116
>not flying Garmur
>not dreaming of Barghest-chan sitting on your face
>>
t. no sp poor fw beacon orbiter merlin pilot
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>>166027349
>letting a battleship (male) sit on your face
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>not letting a battleship (male) sit on your face
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>experience mega lags
>dock at the nearest bounty office station
>want to add a million to "Fix Lag" bounty as is customary
>notice Fix Lag is not #1 on the bounty list
>recall that CCP already fixed lags a couple years ago
>unfortunately they reintroduced them again recently
Who do I put bounty nowadays to manifest my thoughts on CCP's pitiful server infrastructure?
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>>166027821
just send the isk to me I'll sort it out
>>
How do I into isk?
>>
>>166028674
Become a Jita whore
>>
i'm about to learn Caldari Covert Ops (caldari frigate V is 3 days off)

I want to do some exploration (doing with the Heron atm) and maybe some WH ganking ,Should i have both Buzzard and a Manticore?

Also, what should i train next? My alliance is in some deep PvP at nullsec, should i stay in frigates or look further?
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>>166029917
just get an astero
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>>166028674
Memes.
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>>166027821
Tengoo
>>
>>166030327

isn't Covert Ops T2 a straight upgrade from Astero at a lower price? (but at higher skill requirements)
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>>166030556
Asteros are better at killing things, and they apply much more damage to small targets than bombers. Carry around a depot to refit and you can do the exploring and the killing without having to reship. As for what to train next, that depends on what your alliance likes to use. They'll probably have a fleet up to share fits or a new player skillplan.
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>>166029917
Buzzard for exploration.
Manticore for killing braindead people (not profitable, but some people like it) and organized ops.

If by "have" you mean "have it docked and ready just in case" then yes, have both.
But make sure you can use covops cloak and at least torps for the bomber.

PS: Remember you need Electronics Upgrades V for Covert Ops if you haven't trained it yet. Frigate V is half the pain.
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>>166029917
If you want to do exploration and gank other explores then you should fly an Astero. You will be able to do both without having to reship (At worst just bring a mobile depot). You will be able to take any other Frigate other than another Astero who is fit better or outskills you.

As for what you should train I would focus on your core skills, scanning skills, and Archaeology (So you can use T2 relic analyzer).
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>>166031053
>>166030778

So, frigates V is just a meme? I just bought 2 injectors to train this shit plus electronic upgrade V, jesus i want a SP refund

>>166030841

thanks anon
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>>166031053
T2 analyzers are quite pointless if you already have 30 virus strenght unless you do sleeper and ghost sites, in my opinion.
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>>166031307
There's nothing wrong with getting frigate 5, you'll get a boost to all your Caldari frigates and now you can train into interceptors or something too.
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>>166031307
Covert ops and bombers have different purposes to an astero. Covert ops are the best for scanning and hacking, and bombers are the best for applying damage to large targets. Asteros are the best at killing other small targets but they also have hacking and scanning bonuses.
>>
zeugma is so comfy
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>>166031307
Frigates V is something you will want to eventually, interceptors and bombers are good.

>>166031405
Having 40 virus strength allows you to not have to worry about failing cans, even when you get really unlucky. I fail a hack maybe once every three or four sites, and I can't remember the last time I failed a can. You don't need it but imo it is extremely nice to have and allows you to do sites quite a bit faster.
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>>166032018
>interceptors and bombers are good

t1 frigates are good enough to train all frigate v
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>>166031535
>>166031582

got it, thanks

just one more thing

piloting a Heron, i could never do a Sleeper/Ghost site, is it possible to do with a Astero/Buzzard or i have to bring someone to help me?
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>t1 frigates are good enough to train all frigate v
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>>166032250
Harpy fleets are fun.
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>>166032110
you could maybe do a limited sleeper cache with a heron if you know what you're doing. doing a standard would be risky I think

ghost sites do not work the same, they aren't a hard hack, but you're at risk of getting exploded. you either want to run them in a disposable hacker, so a heron rather than a covops/astero, or what I do is run them in a cruiser with a big buffer tank
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>>166032110
You can do ghost sites in a heron if you know what you're doing, same with sleeper sites but only the lesser ones. An astero would have an easier time grabbing one can from a ghost site due to the better hacking bonuses, but you might struggle to get two because the astero is very slow.
>>
gg Darkness
>>
>CCP puts a new build out on Sisi
>still hasn't updated the mirror

Dank.
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>>166032319
>>166032327

But it is possible to fit a Buzzard, for example, and do all sleepers sites?
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What the fuck is a ghost site?
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>>166034916
no, you need to take damage or be good at avoiding taking damage, covops don't do that

>>166035082
kys http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Ghost_Site
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>>166034916
You can maybe standard sleeper caches in a buzzard if you don't make any mistakes at all but a superior will wreck your shit.
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>>166035143
>>166035207

>no, you need to take damage or be good at avoiding taking damage, covops don't do that


What's the fucking point of a ship like the Buzzard then? As a ship designed for exploration, if they can't fully do exploration, why fucking bother??
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>>166035293
so you're moaning because a ship doesn't completely replace another ship. fuck off faggot. covops can't do combat sites either btw, don't get mad
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>>166035293
Fast sublight and warp speed make the buzzard better at regular sites. Sleeper caches are very rare anyway.
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>>166035293
It scans better, hacks better, and can warp around cloaked. It's a direct upgrade from the Heron.
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>he values symmetry in his ship look
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>>166035437

All sites you can find in C4+ will have sleepers, so Covops are unable to do them
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>>166035293
>What's the fucking point of a ship like the Buzzard then?
Probing isn't only useful for carebears do you realise?
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kevin
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>>166037538
new
>>166037538
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