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What did they mean by this?
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anyone xrdr/mkx/kof14/bbcf? us east
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>>165795307
because it's more fun than sf5 and goober gear
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How do you define a fighting game? What are the features/important functions and core interactions of a fighting game?
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>>165795395
this doesnt look fun at all
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>>165795395
It really does not look like fun, it's just broken for the sake of ebing broken
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>>165795361
what's wrong with it
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I think Im seeing more hate for s2 urien than any other character before, in any fighting game, its actually hilarious
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>>165795478
Just like Marvel.
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>>165794396
>>165794550
>>165794612
>>165794697
Sol is the definition of GG fundamentals. Ky does play more like Ryu but he does not embody GG fundamentals as much as Sol. Both of them are the most GG fundamental characters though.
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>>165795449
>>165795478
>free form combos
>interesting takes on classic sf characters
>pretty balanced
>no fadc on blocked DPs
>alpha counter
>tons of juggles

lol. it's less broken than marvel therefore it's tournament ready
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>>165795437
Uhh fighting. Yeah that's a core function.
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>>165795395

Fun is subjective. There are people that enjoy Call of Duty, no matter how much you say it isn't fun, doesn't make it any less fun for them. The whole "fun" thing is such a BS fgg meme. Play whatever the fuck you think is fun.

As the Buddha said "with our mind we create the world."
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>>165795506
Women don't have bodies like that.
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>>165795695
see me in remix goober
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>>165795778
shes not a woman
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>>165795695
>no charge to flash kick
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https://twitter.com/SFVServer/status/821176144535822337

happening?
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>>165795840
guile is motions and ken is charge :^)

>>165795816
post steam
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>>165795848

removing xmas costumes
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>>165795848
probably just gonna remove the holiday costumes, dont expect anything
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fgg's 2017 goty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-BHpHXpX0I
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>>165795651
>Ky is more like Ryu therefore Sol is Ryu

This is what anime does to your brain
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>>165795848

Rumor has it they will add 35 new DLC tomorrow with guest appearances from Iori, TJ Combo, Alien, Bedman and Princess Peach.
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>>165795901
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Sanatiel/
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I don't understand

how do I fight Zangief as Guile
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>>165793743
Don't worry, as you grasp the basics of the game you'll soon be able to pick whatever character you want.
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>>165796413
is this bait
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>>165795395
This mod is shit and was made by a retard
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>>165796502
no I'm just really bad
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>>165793743
>>165796427
Also,. playing Zato isn't that execution intensive, it just requires you to wrap your brain around the unorthodox control scheme.
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>>165796579
throw booms, check his movement, flash kick his jump ins, upside down kick if you think he's gonna throw you.
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>>165796454

What's Akuma's fastest normal? He got a 3f jab?
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>>165796554
this mod is fun and was made by a niceman

hitbox.tv/pickles2393
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i wonder how many players will sub baiken so they can have an answer to unga matchups
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>>165796678

>wrap your brain around the unorthodox control scheme

Yeah, that's exactly what makes him hard to play for me. I have never played a game with "minions" before and the way you have to control both Eddy and Zato simultaneously just fries up my brain.
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>>165797080
>tfw can't wait to counterpick Leo
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>>165797080
that's me, right here. fuck chipp and elphelt
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>>165797080
I might because I really like how they made her look in xrd.
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>>165797080
Nights do you still sniff post a lot?
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I miss you guys so much.
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>>165797369
Hey Luvcheez, how come Capcom hasn't made a Disgaea-ripoff using Dante, Authur, Morrigan, and Nemesis as the main characters?
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how do we make SFV news come out faster senpai?
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>>165797519
Bomb Capcom HQ
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>>165796708
3 frame standing jab i believe, but i thought this game was different than ultra jab fighter 4.
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Reminder that Machaboo made an awesome guide for finer details of GG fundamentals, take a look if you have problems understanding the neutral and pressure or how good players deal with oki.
http://guiltygearsweden.com/strategy/machaboo-on-fundamentals-for-those-that-want-to-become-good-at-gg/
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>>165796683
how does the up-side kick help vs throws?

what exactly do you mean by "check his movement"
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>>165797490
No idea. But I'd buy it day 1.
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>>165797639

Upside down kick is airborne thus making throws whiff. It's godlike.
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HEAVENLY

POTEMKIN

BUSSSSSSSSTAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>165797631

Nope jab that nigger out. Smack smack smack. It's a good option.
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>>165797745
it's not actually airborne, it's just throw invincible which is pretty stupid and very strong.
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What is with these completely wack weekly challenges?

How does knocking down a cpu in the corner 10 times to have a special stage animation give you the same amount of fight money as actually playing the game and beating other players 10 times?

The first took me 30 seconds to do with a cpu, the second took me over 30 minutes of waiting for matches and about 10-15 minutes of playing against other people, which is infinitely harder, so why am I rewarded with the same amount of fight money? Why the fuck can't the 10 ranked matches be upped to 20k fight money, or at least the nigger stage things be brought down to 500-1000 like all the other shitty challenges you can do on cpus?

Who designed this shitty system?
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i'm here to save fighting games
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i need the close up sf5 guile face
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>>165798119
Fighting games ill need a savior such as yourself!
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>>165798119
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>>165798184
use it wisely
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>>165798119
Same
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>>165798302

dat not.... guy el....
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>>165798472
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APOLOGIZE
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>fished up Raven
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>>165798589
is this a girl (male) ?
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josie is the best
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>>165798537

albirdie...
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>>165798672
This is a cat (male) (still not playable despite being a character for years)
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>>165798589
>>165798825
How can Sol's rival possibly be this cute?

And why isn't he playable yet?
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>>165798825
no gay furry allowed!
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>>165798608
i miss being a kid
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>>165798932
I mean, every now and then it can slide.
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>>165798825
I hope Sol ditches Aria and realizes That Man is his true lover.
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>>165798903
You ask the questions all of us want to know.
Seriously, Answer was a stupid choice for a newcomer.
>>165798932
It's not gay if it's a cat, silly.
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>>165798932
How about gay birdy la
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>>165798725
Is that really all i need to do to win? Tekken 7 here i fucking come.
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>>165799117
>Answer was a stupid choice for a newcomer.
juggalo pope when
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>>165798725
>not respecting wallsplat mids at the wall
he deserved that.
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played wolfkrone in ranked
fuck laura in season 2
fuck sfv
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What do you use when you play fightcade?
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>>165799117
I think Answers fine. That dumb bamboo breathing tube opening of his and him on the phone for a lot of his attacks won me over. But after hyping him so much That Man has to be playable soon.
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>>165799202
>get to 1st Dan
>wtf why doesnt my mash 1,3,4 strat work anymore
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>>165798725
that paul costume is sexy
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>>165779405
Wait, Millia legit has a quote on her belt about how pussy is pussy? Shit's lewd
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>>165799364
>Get to Green Ranks
>Why doesn't my Jack-6/Devil Jin team work anymore?
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>>165799292
After bridget.
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>>165799567
no one uses bridget though
they might even reboot his whole gameplan because of it
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>>165798932
mee
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>>165799292
Answer was the "we want the fujo audience" -choice.
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>>165799768
What about that one bridget player that also cosplays bridget?
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>>165799938
Please dont question nights' gg knowledge.
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How do you make a fighting game?
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Okay /fgg/, I want to start playing Goober Gear when Rev 2 comes out because I hate SF5 more than ever with how broken urine and bonita are. Who should I play? I main Guile and Fei Long in every SF game that isn't Turd Strike.
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>>165800092
leo
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>>165800092
guile is broken too
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>>165800146
I don't play Guile in 5, forgot to mention that. I play Karin
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>>165800140
This
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>>165800146
guile is only broken in the sense is that he has actual zoning that is good against half the cast
he doesn't fight the other top tier well at all
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>>165800140
Why Leo? Is he like Guile or Fei Long?
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>>165800537
he has boom/flashkick and a rekka
hes the closest thing
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bgs pickles you are a bully
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>>165800597
Oh wow, nice.
Thanks lads
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Why are there so many ragequitters on SFV? Especially on PS4
>Playing Chun-Li, he's Birdie
>Bout to win
>Perform Critical Art
>Connection has been lost
What the fuck man?
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>>165800847
i didn't lose in my mind
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>>165800140
In terms of special moves Leo seems right, but I don't think the playstyle is similar at all

If you want zoning with charge inputs you could try out Axl or Venom, I don't really know much about how Fei Long plays (other than rekkas) to give an accurate description
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tfw I always lose against the most braindead basic Ryus
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>>165800632
why am i bully
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>>165800847
Because capcom both poorly designed and under-resourced the online component of the game.

Both players keep a persistent connection to the servers during matches yet the game can't tell who ragequit adequately, nor deal with the problem quickly enough to declare one player the winner.
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>>165801139
He has basic rekka pressure and good buttons that can be canceled into rekkas just like Fei.
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>>165801242
>AA ryu player 4 times in the current round
>am currently holding downback as guile
>he jumps again
>i threw a sonic boom
>eat 45%
GREAT GAME
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>>165801259
you play top tier in remix
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>>165801505
i dont think remix has a tier list and i dont think ken is very good, he just has good combo extension mid screen with ex fireball and stepkick
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>>165801320
Well if that's the same type of pressure than Fei then sure, he's a good character to go for in that case but I just wanted to clear up that Leo is not really a "fei long and guile thrown in a blender" character, he can't really do zoning like that

Also I would kinda disagree on the buttons being good, Leo really shines up close (esp. during backturn stance) and not as a whiff punishing character or whatever which is what fei plays like as far as I know
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how do i beat zangief with guile
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>>165801726
by not being terrible at guile
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>>165801726
1) Throw boom
2) Punish any of his choices, or throw another boom
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>>165801708
have you tried tk dps with 6321473?
just curious if 69623 or w/e you were doing just fit in better or if its just what youre used to
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>>165801726
>>165801803
these

and also if he ever knocks you down wait a few frames and then flash kick (non reversal)
it works 100% of the time half the time.
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>>165801708
>Also I would kinda disagree on the buttons being good, Leo really shines up close (esp. during backturn stance) and not as a whiff punishing character
Also BT S is one of the best whiff punish buttons in the game.
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Tekken 7 no more early 2017 just 2017
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>disconnected from game server
>takes my LP

good game crapcom
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>>165801929
Tekken 7 is a myth
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>>165800071
copy another game but have hotter waifus
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>>165795695
how does one play?
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>>165801929
Tekken 7 coming late 201x
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WHEN'S MAHVEL?
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what if king of fighters was a girl?
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How does akumas neutral/footsies game work? No attacks have any range at all
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>>165802305
jump air fireball
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>>165802274
What if bridget was a boy?
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>>165802305
>go up in the air
>toss a fireball
>its garbage

lmaoooo
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>>165802153
http://www.sf4remix.com/
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I'm playing SFV right now as my first fighting game ever. What character should I use to learn the basics of how to combo and etc? Currently rolling with Juri and its kicking my ass.
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>>165802554
Ryu, the posterboy is always the tutorial character in every fighting game
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>>165799937
>We want fujos
Still arbitrary as fuck then. Although an out of left field surprise, the Anji+Baiken combo would have had slightly more impact, unless he's a hidden newcomer with whoever else.
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>>165802554
Ryu, nash, Ken. These characters have goot tools to use for beginners. Learn frame data, learn the fireball, dp, and tastu motion. Learn to block on wakeup. Consult youtube for further instructions.
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>>165801929
Tekken 7 will come out shortly after Tekken 8.

>>165802554
Try Ryu, Cammy or Birdie.
Guile is a good pick if you want to learn chargers.
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>>165802778
>>165802737
>>165802662
Alright, always thought Ryu was pretty boring to watch, but I'll pick him up to learn. Thanks for the input.
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akuma's ex dp is so stupid

doesn't even juggle sometimes even in a combo

takes so long that the opponent can get knocked down, get back up, and still have time to punish it
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>>165802728
Gabriel for next newcomer. ABA and Anji for returning. This is the best course of action.
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Does losing all day every day make anyone else want to kill themselves?
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>>165802920
only do combos where both hits of the dp land then I guess.

For the combos that the 2nd hit whiffs, do the regular dp instead
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no testament no buy
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wow sf6 looks great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkUF38Jk8mU
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>>165803164
Depends on what game. If i'm having fun then no.
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>>165803164
>themselves
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>>165802548
Thanks!
Have a cute Budgie!
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>>165803164
Depends on the game. If it's something like Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, King of Fighters or Mahvel I don't really mind. If something like Tekken then yeah, it makes me want to give up. The road of improvement in Tekken is soul crushing. I'm pretty sure it's the reason why so many people drop it within a couple weeks.
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Can anyone fucking help me vs Balrog. How do you establish a fucking ground game against this dude?

My computer is too shit to record gameplay but my replay ID 4AF4D1417 if anyone wants to help critique.

Does anyone have any decent oki as Ryu? It seems like the top tiers kept their season 1 oki but everyone else has to relearn their's.
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>>165804037
post webms
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>>165803164
the gap between a competent GG player and myself is so great that i just cant see what improvement im making, if any.
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>>165804219
Punish dash punches by neutral jumping, and they'll be more scared to throw them out. Its not the best, but balrog is a bad matchup for Ryu. And the only oki that got nerfed was after his throw and v reversal
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Why do people think that we'll get a new SFV character this month? The season pass is for 2017 and there are only 5 new characters. Expect one every 2-3 months and not in fucking january you imbecils.
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Is possible to buy/download PS3 games on PS4? Want to try Tekken 6 after playing the PSP version, mostly for the Campaign mode.
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>>165804691
No one thinks that moron.
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Anyone trying to start a lobby in SFV?
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how come mashing teleport doesn't work so well
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>>165804808
ps now can be used to stream tt2.
Don't know about t6.
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>>165804508

People keep saying this crap but at Gold rank, I swear to God that's not discouraging anyone bruh. Instead they start EX dash punching me. It's like the top tiers have incredibly strong and safe EX moves plus their insane pressure means they get the bar back EZ.

Bashing my head in 750 hours of straight ranked (I'm a fightmoney whore) and the highest I've made it was ultra gold and the players don't change must, they've got better confirms.
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I can't confirm into combos
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what kind of gloves and handwarmers do you guys use
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>>165805581
Just always assume you will.
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>>165805323
>streaming a fighting game
Enjoy your 10-20f input delay.
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>>165805614
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>>165805614
Go away filthy Smashbabby, and take some deodorant and soap on the way out!
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>>165805581
expect the hit and react to the miss instead of expecting the miss and reacting to the hit
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Will UMvC3 likely have the same system requirements as USF4? I can run that but not 5.
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>>165805738
i play SFV there's nothing i can't handle
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>>165805581
Just assume you will always hit them until you can react to the block.
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what are guile's bad matchups
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>>165805910
Balrog
Balrog
Balrog
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>>165805910
Guile.
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>>165805581
Its a skill you gotta pick up.
In most fighters you should be able to confirm off two hit strings at least.
One button confirms are pretty tough.
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>>165805910
Dhalsim maybe?
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How do I beat Venom?
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>>165805986
Watching Tokido do super confirms off 1 hit fucks me up
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>>165805581
I can't conform into popular games.
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how to counter hit footsies
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wow I just got my first draw game and it took away LP from both players

nice game capcom
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>>165805581
everyone can learn to confirm 2 mediums into a special

light confirms into CA and some target combos like Laura's forward HP can be tough though
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>>165805323
Just checked and no Tekken 6 on PS Now. That whole deal about streaming games sounds meh anyway, looks like waiting for Tekken 7 is the best option.
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>>165806136
Stuff like MP, he's already buffering the special or super and just presses the button or releases for negative edge.

Single jab and shit though, I dunno.
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Never really played fighting games, just as a button masher. I decided I'd learn some moves in SF2, and have been working on that in SSF2:NC.

I figured I'd pick one up for 3DS as well. I could get the same game to practice on it while I'm out, or a different SF game. Other Options:
>SF2T HF
>SFA2
>SFIV3D

Recommendations? Tks
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>>165806208
>Thinking a draw = a win for anyone
You both fuckin lost, that's how draws work.
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>>165806349
sfv
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>>165806349
every Street Fighter besides SFV is kusoge in some way, don't even bother
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>>165806371
>>165806208
Has a double ko finish ever happened in a tourney? Since the game gives both people a loss how do tournaments handle it?
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>LowTierGod
>highly ranked
>wins matches
>occasionally gets upset when he loses a match
>hated by the FGC

Mike Ross
>barely gold
>doesn't even compete seriously anymore
>complains about people doing dumb stuff on Excellent Adventures, then proceeds to lose to it
>loved and is a meme in the FGC
Why the double standards, guys?
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>>165805531
Like I said, its not a great solution, as its a difficult matchup for Ryu. Try and stay outside the range of dash punch and whiff punish it with cr.mk.
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>>165806349
Pick a game that you can play with other people. If you're dead set on Street Fighter, you can pick up SF2 Super Turbo on fightcade, Ultra SF4 on Steam or console of your choice or SFV on PC or PS4.
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who excite for switch bbcpsex
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>>165806563
They settle it in Smash.
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>>165796065
GG fundamentals are inherently different from traditional SF fundamentals you illiterate spaghetti. Please, study your English more.
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Hey guys wanna hear a joke?
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could sfv be any more perfect? i don't think so desu
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>>165806809
Someone beat you to the punch >>165806831
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>>165806658
It could just be one of those blazblue chibi battle royale games. Not an actual port of the mainline games.
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>>165806501
>>165806540
>>165806617
So out of the 3DS options, probably SF4 as it has multiplayer?
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What's baiken play like?
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>>165806914
I would not recommend playing any SF with 3DS controls and the online is probably deader than Revelator at this point but if you just want to fuck around in the arcade mode it's fine I guess if you can get it cheap
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MKX looks like fun and I've heard it's story is good. Is it a good 1st fighter? Is the online community alive? Is any of the DLC necessary?
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>>165806976
Like surprise butt sex.
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>>165806563
Usually both players get a win. If that would cause a draw set (eg they were 1-1 and double koed) then the game gets replayed.
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>>165795361
>Those child bearing hips
Hnng
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>>165806865
But my joke...
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>tfw lose 9 matches in a row
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>>165807110
The story is good for a fighting game I guess, it's dumb but if you like dumb stories it's fine.

NRS games play a lot different than other games but MKX is made to be played on pad so it's a good start for that.

The online for it is good now, the DLC is just character unlocks and costumes I think.
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>>165807110
Whatever seems cool to you is the best 1st fighter for you.
Yes.
No.
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>>165807239
Okay anon what's your joke
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>>165806658
>bbc sex

lmao
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>>165807389
Why'd the chicken cross the road
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>>165807110
The story is not 'good' but it's better than most other fighting game story modes. Online is about as alive/dead as any other fighting game that isn't SFV (or KI as it also has crossplay)
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>>165806976
She's a cheap ass annoying fucking character and the only people who like her are people who have only played Xturd and fap over her big titty edgelord design. Real Goober Gear fans hate her the character (apart from the neanderthals that played her of course)
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>>165807468
because GG is dead
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>>165807038
That is all really, I'm not going for online but SF43D has wireless including download play so that might be good. Tks
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why does no one play him /fgg :(
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>>165807110
It's a good first fighter, why not. teaches you certain fundamentals better than others, but you can still pull a lot out of it depending on who/how you play.

it's alive because it has a higher average of casuals than most games

nah, dlc isn't necessary
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>tfw you visit japan and you hear peopl etalking about you cuz they say the word "gaijin" but you have no idea what they're talking about
it costs 100 yen to play ggxrd there, which is basically $1. what the fuck?
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>>165807534
no because
(You) were the chicken all along
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>>165795361
Do you have a version without the lines? They make it hard to fap
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>>165807593
Because he's terrible, got nerfed in S2 for some dumbfuck reason, he's not even fun to play and not even Vega mains from previous games play him because he isn't charge anymore for, again, some dumbfuck reason.
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>>165807593
because you'd need to rely on solid footsies in the SFV online environment to do well with him
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>>165807513
It's amazing how Guilty Gear players see Baiken as the problem. What are the players supposed to do? Eat 5 consecutive 50/50 mixups before they're given an opportunity to escape?
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>>165807796
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>>165807793
Why would you go to Japan without knowing Japanese? And if you're really bothered or surprised by Japanese people being racist, you shouldn't have gone there at any point. I have a Japanese friend and he just casually rants to me about Koreans and Chinese being loud and throwing trash everywhere, so I have no idea why you think they'd be nicer to white people.
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>>165807990
Vega should have been able to kill her
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>>165807796
n-no
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>>165807990
Would be funnier if this scene didn't take place before social media.
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>>165807793
Laughing at dumb tourists is something people do everywhere.
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>>165807593
>>165807902
>mfw my character loyalty is too beautiful
>mfw i have no face because i'm wearing a mask
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>>165808372
This makes me wish I could have made a Hiroshima joke. Motherfuckers averted their gaze whenever I looked in their direction.
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>>165807993
>Eat 5 consecutive 50/50 mixups before they're given an opportunity to escape?
yes that's the point of the game
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>>165807593
>>165807902
I like stance characters so new Vega's moveset is fine to me. But why can't he just get meaningful buffs?
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>>165808450
Well that's just common courtesy in certain cultures.
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>>165807593
Isn't Vega supposed to be some good-looking elegant spaniard? why is his neck thicker than his head.
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>>165808559
>use your defensive options
>why are you using your defensive options
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>>165808450
>go to a country where you can't even speak the language and expect everyone to respect you
>complain about things being too expensive
>surprised no one likes you
So are you a Mexican or Syrian?
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>>165808648
Because every character needs to appeal to the bara audience or be a joke character.
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>>165808735
I'm _______Black
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would you play her, /fgg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAajfD8Mf7M
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>>165808847
Ah, another overly entitled group that assumes the entire world needs to worship the ground they walk on. Makes sense, I guess.
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>>165808897
How do you justify a dollar per go for Xrd? Also, I didn't do shit. I just sat on the train and then some woman a few seat away started saying something about "gaijins".
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>>165808893
I'd be totally fine with all of S2 being Arika characters
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>>165808893
Would rather play Garuda or Skullo.
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>>165808970
dindu nuffin
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>>165809059
More like Memeo
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lol yeah I'm pretty done with fgg
there's literally no reason to ever come here

no one plays games, even when I offer to money match
it's fucking cesspit

american fgg had like six good players, and they're all gone because this place is a fucking hell hole

donnie, bobcat, demonik, fucking even gman and jojo don't post here anymore
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>>165808970
At best, I'd say because you get a chance to play against some of the best players in the world, but I wouldn't be going to Japan just to play arcade games anyway.


Japan is xenophobic, this is very common knowledge. They don't even like other asians in their countries. You didn't research this before going there? Stay in America if you want people to tolerate you. Racism is a common occurrence in Asia in general and you'll have to accept that if you want to visit there. I've been refused entry into plenty of buildings in China when I was an English teacher there, but I already knew that was going to happen. I just really needed the job, as an English degree is useless back in America and I'm willing to accept a bit of xenophobia if I get access to things I couldn't normally. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you're there for leisure.
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>>165809234
SFV is already becoming the meme cast game.
Memes aside if he showed up I'd be fine with it. I don't see anything actually wrong with his character.
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>>165809305
ever heard of matchmaking retard
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>>165809402
He's the least cool Arika character except maybe Russo and his stupid ice cream hair.
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>>165809305
I have never seen a money match offer on here. I would totally money match people in Virtua Fighter 5 FS on PS3 if I had more than 8 dollars on hand right now, though.

You are right, however, as people here either dodge, refuse to believe you really play games, or ragequit during the match.
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whatever happened to iori
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>>165809410
That's a pasta from like two years ago.
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>>165809305
How the fuck do you money match on the internet? I'm not giving you mofos my bank routing number and I don't think anyone here wants an Amazon gift card.

I did donate the prize of Bad Rats to a Vampire Savior tournament once, though.
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>>165809561
yea, i wonder who keeps posting it. my guess is a uniel or sfxt player if they know jojo, probably rpg
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>>165809510
>>165809305
>>165809561

See me in Tekken 7 FT1 for $8536.59
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>>165809495
The version with the scarf looks pretty good imo. But I like Kamen RIder and the like.
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>>165809673
Well i'm RPG, so it couldn't have been me.
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>>165809305
you seem suspicious
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>>165809692
1. I am not currently living in Asia and don't travel much, so I haven't had a chance to play T7 yet.
2. Sold my copy of TTT2 2 years ago.
3. Any other game you want to risk high amounts of money on?
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Which Tekken should I emulate?
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>>165807513
>goobers calling any characters annoying
Your whole game is filled with obnoxious garbage characters.
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>>165809931
git gud
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>>165810020
Sure. With Baiken.
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>>165809928
Tekken 5 DR. I hope you have friends willing to play it with you, though, unless you're only interested in practicing your KBD.
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>>165809673
80% of the time it's me
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WTF is Laura and Zangief doing to make me freeze into place?

I know for a fact I'm Zangief's knee is NOT touching me yet FANG refuses to walk backwards out of range. Also this shit happens with Laura's fireballs. She touches me with once I'm in frametraps for hours. I don't understand. I'm staring at the fucking data and it doesn't make since how she keeps extending her turns and how I'm not reacting to the dashes. Her st.mk is -2 so I should be able to jab her before she does something but that not the case.

I've tried FANG and Ryu and they're not doing anything for me in this matchup.
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>>165809910
I'll bet the same amount of money on anything but I'm not going to pay if I lose
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>>165810135
I'm going to play it for its story
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>>165810125
That works, I actually don't mind Baiken even though my main is Chipp. No idea why so many people complain about her.
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>>165810248
If you want to see the story, might as well start with the original Tekken. Pretty sure Mednafen runs it pretty well. Can't you just watch it on YouTube or something, though.

Also, Tekken's story is kind of nonsensical, so good luck comprehending it.
>>165810223
Are you Joe Pesci?
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>>165810210
Are you confused about proximity guard? You would have really hated SF4 and focus attack
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>>165809673
It was originally Reno who posted it.

He was here the other day, he's quit this thread like 4 times already.
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>>165809368
Because it gets pretty stupid when even shittier countries don't have that level of foreigner autism vs Japan and parts of East Asia. They are literally American tier levels of outside Japan knowledge but none of it ever gets called out ever.
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>>165806976
she's a defensive character about pokes and alpha counters
gg players hate her and any other character they can't mindlessly rush down
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>>165810359

Wtf is proximity guard? Is this another stupid ass meme mechanic? If someone throws a punch at me and it misses, why the fuck would that stop me walking backwards? What purpose does this serve?
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>>165810351
>Are you Joe Pesci?

I was going to say "i wish" but I don't know if I'd trade age for wealth
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>>165810579
Because Japanese keep to themselves and the only place where they're a problem in regards to invading is Brazil. Sure, Chinese flood everywhere and get in the way, as do Koreans to an extent, but Japanese at least stay in Japan most of the time. As for why worse countries are more accepting of foreigners, they need that money to stay afloat, while Japan is doing fine without foreign money. Look at how little they care about complaints from foreigners about anime and games. Look at how Harada responded to the Lucky Chloe controversy.
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If Rainbow Mika is Japanese, why is her name usually written in katakana? Marketing?
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>>165810952
Sometimes katakana is used just because it looks cool like the Akira logo
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>>165810952
If Rainbow Mika is a fictional character, why am I desperately in love with her?
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>>165810952
if rainbow mika is japanese why does she have a big thick ass?

explain that one
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>>165811074
You're not, you're infatuated
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whats your face gonna be when capcom announces literally nothing tomorrow?
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>>165810807
>but Japanese at least stay in Japan most of the time.

They have a notable diaspora in Canada and the U.S..

>As for why worse countries are more accepting of foreigners, they need that money to stay afloat, while Japan is doing fine without foreign money. That's no excuse for being American-tier ignorant on anything Non-Japanese. Like there's a like a level where it's okay and quirky but man it's been passed long ago.
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>>165811257
But I love her personality
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>>165810952
If Rainbow Mika is female, why does xhe have a male name?
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recommended fighting games?
I have sf5 already.
KOF14 is already on my list next pay.

Anything new or old to look out for?
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>>165811254
The same reason E. Honda has one
>>165811408
She is not European. This is like saying Kim is a man's name because Korean guy use it.
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>>165810952
Why do people like this woman?
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>>165811441
why would you fucking post this
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>>165811441
SF4
T7 when it comes out
DOALR
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>>165811441
sell sfv
buy ki and kof
look out for tekken and get gg xrd2 when it drops in spring
pick up insjustice 2 soon if thats your thing
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>>165811531
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve. if you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.
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>>165811441
sfv character pass
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>>165811408
More like why does that homo have a Japanese girl's name

>>165811441
14 is dead unless you live in or near mexico on top of bad netcode

Injustice 2 is going to be the best selling fightgame of the year with Arms a close second
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>>165811441
Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator is pretty cool
If you've never played an airdasher before, though, get Nitroplus Blasterz instead.

Do you have a PS3 or 360 still? Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Virtua Fighter 5 Final Shodwdown are excellent 3d fighting games.
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>>165811547
capcuks have the most tired shitposts ever
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>>165811481
shes a slut
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>>165811481
yellow and blue is why
>>165811498
I tried last round and it just seems inferior to 3 still.
>>165811531
I don't sell games even if I hate them.
I forgot about Killer instinct but I don't wanna buy an xb1 or windows 10 for that.

Injustice I'll be looking out for for sure. I enjoyed 1 but it died really fast when mkx hit.
>>165811565
why would I pay for some characters I can't even use yet?
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>>165811598
You would recommend bad games just because they are going to have high sales? Might as well suggest Overwatch over Quake Live at this point.
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>>165811604
How does Xrd compare to +R? Thats the last one I played. Haven't looked at Xrd at all besides what I've seen here which is just mainly character art appreciation.
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>>165811718
overwatch isnt a bad game
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>>165811718
They're not bad at all

Not sure what you're saying is Quake here. SFV?
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>>165811481
Courageous, brave, not emo or whiny in the slightest (see: Remy), a throwback to win SF was fun instead of being forced into being a super serious esports game with no joke characters allowed, and a more mobile than usual grappler? What's not to like?
>>165811645
She is just flamboyant, I doubt she is that kind of girl.
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What makes Zato/Milia okay but Raven bullshit?
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holy shit this theme was so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63wNQTKWhXw
what if the last silhouette is garuda
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>>165811784
It's a little slower and easier to play, but still fun. For one, Roman cancels can be used as the "I fucked up" button now, as they slow down time. Other than that, it's still most of what people like about Guilty Gear. I still like +R more, but Xrd is still fun. Many people are split on the danger time mechanic, though it is rare in real matches anyway. Said mechanic occurs when weapons clash and results in an opportunity to do a high damage Mortal Counter for 10 seconds.
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>>165811702
>I forgot about Killer instinct but I don't wanna buy an xb1 or windows 10 for that.

no biggie. windows 10 is fucking garbage but i deal with it for the game.

>Injustice I'll be looking out for for sure. I enjoyed 1 but it died really fast when mkx hit.

didnt mkx come out not too long after? im sure people will play this while waiting for mikxi or whatever
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>>165811702
>I don't sell games even if I hate them.
why tho?
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>>165812229
Personal choice.
>>165812116
MKX did come out a little bit but I just wish injustice lasted a bit longer. I personally prefered how blocking worked in it vs mortal kombat. Pressure worked differently
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>>165812043
Fuck off back to /v/
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>>165812035
People bad at the game idk, Elphelt is the most retarded still. Zato a close second probably
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is fgg only good for shitposting
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>>165812375
What does liking Garuda have to do with /v/?
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>>165812473
It's bad for shitposting

owg is for shitpossting
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So the switche's version of SF2 supposedly has easier inputs, is this a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know nothing about the FGC
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>>165812654
fgc heads will probably ridicule it but ultimately its just gonna be a casualized version of sf2
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>>165812654
Why would it be a bad thing? The only people going to get that switch shit is die hard SF fanboys or someone who knows little to nothing about street fighter.
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>>165812654
It could be argued as both. It's good for new players but also bad for new players. They can play the game easier, but it also will have trouble adjusting to games with harder inputs since they were only eased in with an easy input game. My first fighting game was Tatsunoko vs Capcom using a Wii remote, so I was pretty shocked when learning how you were supposed to actually play that game. And even regarding other games, when I started going back and playing earlier fighting games with difficult execution, I spent a while having to master the inputs. Granted, I was going to have to learn those anyway, but I think many would become discouraged from even trying new games and just stick with the easy one for life. Do you have any further questions on the FGC?
>>165812570
Sombra's hips are the best.
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>>165812035
raven is mostly meant for noobs. fun character but his fireball is active for too long. it gives him braindead oki and no need for his excitement gimmick

>>165812713
hdr had easy inputs anyways
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>>165812913
what makes it brain dead compared to zato's saw pressure or milia's disc?
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>>165812906
>Do you have any further questions on the FGC?
Who's relevant? (I'm assuming JWong isn't he comes across like the Tony Hawk of the FGC)
Is there any really stupid drama that's worth reading about for a laugh?
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>>165811598
Mika comes from Michael which is a biblical name.
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>>165811903
>remys turd strike ending
3s was the biggest mistake
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>>165813321
>tfw read that greentext as remys turd snake
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>>165811903
>>165813321

Dude his ending has him getting over his dead sisters death and his father's abandonment.
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>>165813510
Be yourself
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>>165813510
This shit, it's way too in depth for Hot Topic Wiccans
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>>165813510
Drugs
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>>165813765
>to avoid women
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>>165813510
Sports
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>>165813765
Women love weed, coke, and perkies. "Deep" girls love ketamine and acid.
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>>165813179
Justin is actually one of the best American players, far more so than many other FGC "celebrities" like Mike Ross or Gootecks. He at least still places highly in events. Also, relevance depends on the community you're talking about as well. The FGC is largely divided into camps based on what game a person plays, even if those games are made by the same companies. Ask Marvel vs Capcom players and they'll probably tell you that Justin is a god. As Street Fighter players and they'll tell you Justin is just "pretty good." People like Aris are not really seen as important in the SF community, but he is probably the most notable American Tekken player. I think Jiyuna is America's most famous Guilty Gear player, but many SF players only know him as "Daigo's translator". If we're talking about the best of the best, though, notable players right now are Tokido (JPN), Nuckledu (USA), Infiltration (KOR), and Luffy (FRA).

Stupid drama? That's what the American FGC is built around. This guy that goes by LowTierGod had an Ultra Street Fighter IV grudge match with Viscant back in late 2014, but nothing that silly has happened since then, to my knowledge. Justin Wong left his esports team and Kbrad made an angry video about it, but thanks to an esports focus, the FGC is a bit more clean and serious these days.

This video about MvC from 7 years ago is still one of my favorites, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty7VUjGiGoA
Fun fact: That guy got banned from Evo for brandishing a knife.
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>completely tired of the current state of sfv
>don't want to shell the cash for guilty gear since I might not even find matches online
>Tekken probably getting delayed

Why is life so hard?
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>>165813480
Sonic Adventure 2 ends in the same way and people still call Shadow edgy.

Also, he seems to just try to forget his problems more than actually forgiving his father.
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>top5 most used character
>together with Karin, the characters who sell most dlc costumes
>bottom 5 in online win rate
How do we buff Cammy for season 3?
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>>165813510
BlazBlue, the only women you'll find are trannies
>>165814112
GG still has people playing it. Or you could try KoF 98 or pretty much anything on fightcade.
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>finally getting comfortable with uriens specials, able to complete trials now
>go into practice and try to do basic hit confirms
>charge moves never come out

for example
>c.lk c.lp mk shoulder
how am i supposed to gain charge between dashing up and doing the short? it seems like there isn't enough time.
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>>165813973
>People like Aris are not really seen as important in the SF community, but he is probably the most notable American Tekken player.

I mean no offense, but sometimes I'm surprised at how little people seem to know about the Tekken scene.
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>>165814396
I mean most notable to non-Tekken players.
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I shall end this MayMay here and now...
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>>165814396
To be fair 3D fighting hasn't been in a particularly good place in a little bit
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>>165814581
DO IT
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>>165814581
It's funny because Axl is the only actual meme character in Xrd
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>>165814813
What is a meme character?
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>>165814842
dishonest gimmicks
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>>165814881
Then Chipp is a super meme
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Why did we get like 3 season1 characters, 2 sets of costumes, halloween + christmas stages and costumes, Akuma + akuma nostalgia costume.... All before we got Alex nostalgia costume.

Ive been waiting so fuckin long, and we still dont have a date.
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>>165814165
Where they hell is is father, you don't forgive shit like that when the guy left to become a fighter and ditch his family. Remy is right forgetting about him.
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>>165814982
It was never even officially announced, those were shown behind closed doors
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>>165814806
Fuck this MayMay.
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>>165814982
Ibuki costumes? IBUKI COSTUMES!
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>>165815031
not officially I guess, yeah. But they have the models and they showed them off. Do they not plan on releasing them or something? for what purpose?
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Is Meepo a puppet character?
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>>165815206
Kind of, but puppet characters usually don't have as many moves as the master. Compare him to Ms. Fortune or Zato-1 in terms of him being able to use the same movements for all versions of himself.
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>>165815146
IBUKI COSTUMES THE SEQUEL!
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>>165807849
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>>165815093
Is this a Naruto reference?
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>>165815146
>>165815453
THEY ARE ALL SO CUTE.
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sfv refuses to match me with people in my ctual country
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>>165815669
No but there are Jojo references.
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is alex's jump just a pure 50/50 or what do you do against it im very confused.
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im having a lot more fun as a tier whore than a character loyalist
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>>165815162
Capcom obviously has some sort of rigid plan for what they want to do with SFV and they aren't going to stray from it, no matter what. It's also why there's still no any sort of arcade mode or player 2 rematch option
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>>165815975
Dude anti air lmao
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what if someone made a fighting game designed around playing multiple characters and implemented captain's mode so you could strategize around banning your opponent's picks and stuff?
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>>165795361
BB isn't pedo propaganda they said
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I wish mike z would just use some of the invisanimal money and just make annie. shes in so much art youd assume she was in the game already
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>>165816232

You mean like you get to veto a few characters before anyone gets to make selections?

I think that'd be better done as a gimmick tourney for another fighting game rather than its own fighting game. Although it wouldn't work for some games; Arcsys players are mostly character loyalists for instance.

>>165816329

What even is that other shit they make?
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>>165815669
Naruto did not invent refusing to look at explosions. Do you also think Guy is a Naruto reference because he's an orange ninja?
>>165815534
thank you thank you thank you
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>>165815848
Get a Netduma router
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYe_YEu-nKY
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>>165816417
Naw more like you both ban 1 characters,
A picks 1 characters, B picsk 2 characters, A picks 1 character
A and B both ban 1 character
B picks a character, A picks 2 characters, B gets last pick.
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>>165816526

Try it out at your SF locals.
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>>165816512
>$200 to play a video game
kek
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>>165816417
a valkyrie profile type rpg which looks to incorporate fighting game like juggles/combos
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>>165816434
Nah Axl is just doing Shadow Pull Jutsu but not as cool
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>got an xbone brooks converter
Now I can finally play KI at my locals!
Oh wait.
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>>165816512
>"gaming" routers
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>>165816745
You want to win and play seriously, right? If so, get that. If you have no problem buying DLC characters and peripherals like sticks, then this should be fine.
>>165817067
But this one has actual advantages. On most routers, you have to go through a bunch of crazy options to get that level of connection control. It's worth it if the guy is complaining that he can't find matches in his country and he views that as more valuable than wasting time with laggy Russians.
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>>165816512
How about they put a region filter in or at least let me select my opponnets like in sfiv.

SFV has a literal worst online setup than every version of sfiv.

Forget esports how about improving the functionality of your game Capcom?
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>>165817042
He's had that move since GG The Missing Link, though it did look a bit different back then.
I wish Shikamaru could have been in a better series
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>>165817240
Capcom still thinks the entire world is Japan, sadly. This is why they put Mexico in the South American online CPT ranking events instead of the North American ones, as they can't judge distance very well. This is a problem with many Japanese companies, as I recall the European servers for FFXIV being in Canada.
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Are there any good fighting games focused around weapons?
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>>165817425
Naruto is pretty good if you only play the games
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>>165817536
Soul Calibur 2
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>>165817536
dark souls
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>>165817536
persona
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best gril
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>we could have had alpha 3: hd remix
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>>165818035
They should've just ported Alpha 3 Max desu
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>>165817240
Selecting opponents for ranked is exploitable as fuck and a shit system.
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>>165813157
those require proper practice and execution
raven is just mash something into knockdown then just 236HS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMQljBcYRRA
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>no locals
>my friends, though great people, aren't as interested in fighting games as they are with Overwatch, mobas, etc
>be in that special kind of purgatory where you're a shitter but beat your friends consistently to the point you fear that they lost interest
>Have siblings, but they're not interested either
>attempted to make locals but no dice
>just play online and training
>tfw I'll never have a local fighting buddy to play a shit ton of fightan, improving and just messing around in a lazy afternoon
>mfw fightan are one of the few things I truly enjoy and prevents me from throwing myself to incoming traffic
Fighting games shouldn't be this much suffering.
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>>165818303
same
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>>165818303
play dota
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>>165818303
Find an online friend to play with.
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>>165818692
Or join a discord, not hard to get lobbies going
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So if Baiken is super defensive and can do meterless alpha counters how did people defeat her back in the day?
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>>165818835
they didn't. there's a reason why zato is mid tier and baiken is top tier.
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>>165795251
play kof
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>>165814179
give her dp back, but only to her
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>>165818835
throws
she has the lowest hp in the game so all you need to do is get in and do the damage
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>>165818835
adapting and getting good instead of crying all day
>>165818889
The Mexicans are asleep right now.
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>>165819026
nah
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It just clicked guys.

I just realize that landing throws and landing stray hits are more important than combos in Street fighter. Combos are only used for punishes and if you land a jump in, but you shouldn't be jumping anyways. Negative moves are pointless to use in most cases because you can be punished with said combos. Once you throw your opponent., now you encourage them to press buttons in frame traps to keep up the pressure. I applied all this knowledge, and went from a struggling silver, to Ultra GOLD.

am I #WOKE?
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S+ Zappa
S Chipp Faust Dizzy Baiken Millia
A Jam Slayer May Anji Order-Sol
B Testament A.B.A Axl Kliff I-No
B- Johnny Justice Potemkin Eddie Sol Ky Robo Venom Bridget

why is zappa top tier
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>>165819081
nah
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Did anyone ever care about Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer? It's Obari as fuck and reminds me of Angel Blade, so I tried it out 2 or 3 years ago, but then I got sad upon realizing it was dead on fightcade.
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>>165819089
Ghosts
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>>165819089
Only those who've gone into the darkest depths of gimmickry can play him
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>>165819081
Combos are way more fun than stray hits though. I spent most of my time playing E Ryu in SF4 and Urien in SF5.

I've played Xrd for a year now and I haven't played against another human and I'm having a blast just doing combos. I can send the opponent to the corner from anywhere on the screen with Ramlethal now.
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>FANG worse than Zangief
Say it ain't so.
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>>165819089
He was a fuckhead and his ghosts were retarded
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>>165819146
It's a very VERY busted game.
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>>165819063
>>165819101
But he's right. It's a link combo game anyway, so they obviously don't want you having fun making combos.
>>165819172
Don't E. Ryu combos hurt your hands?
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>>165819174
The only person who could pilot him at a high level dropped him
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>>165819089
Is Eddie Zato?

Why is he shit tier?
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>>165819174
Zangief being bad was just a meme for people who don't understand grapplers

FANG has been the worst character since beta
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>>165819174
at least 60% of the cast is worse than S2 Gief. Gief is also top8 most used chars online
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>>165819242
He's not shit it says B-
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>>165819309
And that's where on the tier list? The bottom. Ergo, he's shit tier.
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>>165819242
Eddie is the shadow creature and Zato is the human.

At one point during the story Zato had died but his corpse was being piloted by Eddie but he's been resurrected as of Xrd so you play as Zato again.
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>>165819235
>>165819259
>>165819297
I'm upset
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how do i learn how to play urien? he's fun but i have no idea what i am doing or what im supposed to be doing.
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>>165819224
How busted? I noticed a few glitches when playing, but is it on the level of Hokuto no Ken?
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>>165818613
I would but two things:
I just don't click with mobas.
My computer is deader than Yatagarasu.

>>165818739
That sounds good, know any?

>>165818489
Hang in there anon.
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>>165819382
do you currently play a shoto?
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>>165819325
That's not how tiers work.
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>>165819382
Ask LTG
>>165819421
Pretty much every game has a discord, just google it and it will generally be the first result. GG and a few other games even have character specific discords.
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>>165819426
no i'm semi new to the game, and i play ibuki mostly, but i am only like 3000 lp lol.
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Is Kan-ra a good character to learn the game?
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>>165819421
>yatagarasu

lmao, is there a worse game out there. Cant believe I actually buyed that piece of shit.
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>>165819479
Yatagarasu is a fun game though. Don't know why /fgg/ turned on it all of a sudden.
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>>165819469
That's... actually a tough question to answer, because everyone plays really differently.
So sure why not?
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>>165819428
Many players are used to game where the lowest tier characters are literally unplayable, and thus not viable for serious use in the slightest, rather than just at a disadvantage
>>165819506
Because Juicebox likes it
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>>165819172

Yeah but I want to do them against an opponent and you can't uynless you are playing marvel.

Also GG is dead on PC
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>>165819421
>That sounds good, know any?

Discords are usually for specific games. You can just search the name of the game you want to play and discord and you'll find a couple.

>>165819469
KI is kind of matchup heavy so most people know how to play a handful.

KI also has fairly compressed tiers so you can just pick whoever looks cool or fits your playstyle
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There is literally no way to react in time to EX Shoulder online.
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>>165819539
I played a few matches just yesterday.
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>>165819389
It's incredibly easy to break and jabs are broken as fuck and do WAY too much damage for something you can link so easy.
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>>165819534
Why does it matter if some random guy likes it or not?
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>>165819506
>Don't know why /fgg/ turned on it all of a sudden.
They ever update the netcode
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>>165819089
zappa was already seen as a good character by japan in ac, and in ac+r arcsys added the ability for the sword to be detached and do abnormal fullscreen pressure/pokes.

zappa did get nerfed in an ac+r update though, but ac+r never got played enough to form a proper final tierlist thanks to xrd
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>>165819747
/fgg/ will base their opinions of games on what e celeb likes or dislikes it.
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>>165819769
Wasn't one of it's selling points that it was going to launch with GGPO
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Why would anyone ever want to play a 3s clone?

The gameplay is garbage and if they wanna chew shit they can do it in Fightcade
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>>165819539

it certainly is not.
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>>165819834
I'd play it but they never gave it good online so I just didn't buy it.
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https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/821264854723899392

It's over T7 Console release cancelled

Wait for T8
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>people say Sol is unga
>when I-No exists
i'm convinced no one has seen I-No matches before
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>>165819840
on pc it is
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>>165819920
>Dash that automatically goes airborne
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>>165819557
>>165819463
Thanks for the info anons. I'll check it out.

>>165819389
https://youtu.be/9VZ71a-wUlk
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Objective opinions needed:
Do I purchase UNIEL as a someone who has never enjoyed anime games before and does not like anime.
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>>165819941
no.

there are always at least three online lobbies on pc.

enough players out there.
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>>165819920
>one of character specific missions against I-no is says "dude just like block the mixups lmao"
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Zangief vs Maxima

Who wins
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hello where do i go to learn how to killer instinct
also is KI a decent game to learn how to fighting game
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>>165820005
UNIEL isn't an anime fighter.
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>>165819534
>Many players are used to game where the lowest tier characters are literally unplayable

Okay, but that doesn't apply to Guilty Gear.
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>>165820005
Uniel is more like a traditional fighting game, so sure, give ti a shot.
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someone see me in timeslaughter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ale2N4Y9v24
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>>165820083
>hello where do i go to learn how to killer instinct
http://ki.infil.net/index.html
>also is KI a decent game to learn how to fighting game
Kinda. It'll teach you all the basics, but the combo system doesn't apply to any other game.
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>>165820083
http://ki.infil.net/

KI is fine to start with

You can start with pretty much any game really, the important thing is finding something you find fun.
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>>165820005
UNIEL is probably the easiest starting point for anime games since it has autocombo and a relative small cast
that said if you don't like anime you probably won't like it since its a combination of characters from other anime games AND its dialogue is really cheesy (anime cheesy)
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>>165820083

any fighting game you'll actually look forward to playing is the best game to learn fighting games with

as for your question, all i know is not here. i see ki mentioned once per thread, maybe.

>>165820112

it still has air dashes man. they're not as loosey goosey and you can't block in the air mostly but there are still air dashes and animation cancels and shit
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>>165819952
>Morrigan is unga
I refuse to believe
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>>165820274
>air dashes
Assaults are more like KoF hops, even the aerial ones. Also even SF has cancels.
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>>165820301

Bunga~
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>>165820232
>>165820262
>>165820274
thanks pals
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Oh my
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>>165820274
There's plenty of people who play KI here, it's just not most people's main game.

I would put it above average for first fighting game between being free to try and it having a good tutorial.
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What is h-ryougi's roll used for?
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>>165820301
>>165820384
She's top tier in MvC3 for a reason.
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>>165820359

sure, but not to the extent that anime games usually do.

assaults really are the perfect balance. i fucking love them and everything else about that game. wish uni wasn't such a dead game stateside.
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>>165820510
Does her dash go upwards in that?
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>>165820531
If you play KI you can play Mira aka better Carmine
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>doing something unsafe into a super with armor
I feel like a dick but it feels so good at the same time.
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bison player replays are always good for a giggle
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>>165820629
Why would you EVER play honestly
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>>165820604
Or Maya, she's pretty anime.
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>tfw you hit them with the dp on THEIR wakeup
I am a fucking god
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>>165820596
Haven't played Marvel in a while but I'm pretty sure this is the case, yes.
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https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/821264854723899392

What did he mean by this?
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>>165820750
>projectile rushdown character that gets stronger if you block her projectiles
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>>165820891
Someone already beat you to it
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>>165820891
he found out that you were the gay furry
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>>165820928
KI is pretty Anime if you can call it that.
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>>165820604

i actually play waldstein. or played i guess, haven't touched uni in months.

speaking of which, is that aganos guy any good? i appreciate how LARGEHUGE he is
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Want to teach idiots to stop spamming? Make a fighting game where everything is done with a single bar. Get hit? Health bar goes down. Use an EX special? Health bar goes down. Use a super? Health bar goes down.
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>>165820629
>when the bunker buster hits just right
>>
>making me want to play UNI
Is it true mah boy Akatsuki is top tier in the newest version? What did they do to him?
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>>165821034
Does anime just mean "game with more mechanics than Street Fighter" now?
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>>165821080
Aganos' playstyle is armored zoning
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>>165821179
>input delay 8
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>>165821223

he doesn't grapple? that's weird.
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I'm here to save fighting games.
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>>165821197
2A is a low!
Close range 5B added
Close range 5B > Far range 5B route works
5B has increased cancel-routes
Downed opponent can be picked up with close range 5B
2C doesn't scale as badly as it did before
Throw damage increased by about a 100
B Denkoudan (236B) increased bullet speed
A Hakubou (22A) is a signle-shot move now. Increased damage
A Hakubou increased hitbox!? It's not an aerial suicide, but you can continue with Denkoudan.
A Tekkou (214A) worse on block? About -4f. It's a free throw for the opponent.
Far range 5C doesn't whiff on crouchers!!
Kamikaze raw damage 3900
Assault j.B & Assault j.C won't whiff anymore
j.2C doesn't scale as badly as it did before.
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>>165821080
general raam is pretty xbawkshueg too
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>>165820083
KI has a good tutorial and has a lot of similarities to SF4, the only thing it probably won't teach you for a long time is intricate footsies and whiff punishing, purely because nobody needs it to get their shit started in KI unless the opponent is seriously a top level player and leaves no openings
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>>165821293
No he does wall bounce combos in the middle of the stage

RAAM is the big body grappler. Thunder is a more traditional grappler. Hisako isn't really a grappler but does a lot of work off a command grab like Makoto
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>>165821315

keep in mind the demo has been simplified.
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>>165821293
If you want big dumb asshole grappler you've got two options, Thunder or General RAAM
RAAM is more tradtional grappler, while Thunder plays a bit more like a semi grappler
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>>165821197

i think the new veil off function is the main thing, lets you dump your vorpal into a bigass combo for loadsadamage, which is good for guys like akatsuki who only get in a few times because he's punching with normal human length arms in dhalsim fighter 2014.
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>>165820034
does this bitch even have any hard match ups? jesus look at this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHYIbkxuDU

>>165821080
https://youtu.be/Ib3oPqqt8u0?t=34m20s
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>>165821212
Pretty much.
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>>165819920
Same senpai, I hate I-No more than anyone except Elphelt
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>>165821315
>>165821437

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpV5X4f9kXc&feature=youtu.be
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>>165820596
>>165820863
she's top tier in marvel 3 because she can fill the literal entire screen with projectiles coming from both sides almost endlessly and cancel out of the recovery of them with flight cancelling to let her be safe virtually 99% of the time
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>complaining about ino
shitters
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>>165821558
Tied for second most anticipated game this year behind Splatoon with Ni-Oh
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>>165821138
this is literally what blaziken does in pokken and it still drew literally every ken player on earth
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>>165821665
She's not fun to play against as anyone
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Diavolo slaps you waifu's ass and he has 3 HHA bars, you are in a perfect corner and Diavolo is in a rush because Doppio has Piano lessons in 13 minutes and King Crimson is especially super pissed because it's show just got cancelled.

What do you do?
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>>165821558
Am I the only one that thinks this looks really retarded and silly? Don't get me wrong, I love silly stuff, but this game just looks laughable.
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>>165821798
is this a jojos refernece?
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>>165821798
Not play shit games
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>>165821689
Is that how Blaziken works? I used that character once, got annoyed by its voice, and instantly switched over to Pikachu Libre. How well does that character usually place in tournaments?
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>>165821798
Couldn't you just shoot him in the head
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>>165821817

>says this as he plays a game with a character like necalli and rashid
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>>165821915
it has EX versions of specials which drain your HP on use in exchange for typical EX properties like damage or bigger combos

idk anything about pokken tournaments any more besides suicune/weavile/gengar are all apparently really good and a braixen player won evo
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>>165821954
I don't play SFV
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>>165821953

IT JUST WORKS
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>>165821992
>and a braixen player won evo
by spamming projectiles nonetheless
excuse me
by """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""''zoning"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""'''''
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>>165822128
No that's just something Araki never thought of like why didn't Joseph use hermit purple to find Kira
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>>165821798
I block and then DIE TO THIS PIECE OF SHIT
FUCK
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>>165822315
fake ass map, there is a legit town named Intercourse, PA thats rather well known

Also fun fact, there is a place in my town named Goose Shit Hill on the official Township map.
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I hope if there is a S2 pre CPT patch it makes uriens reversal stupid bad

Like, it's too safe on whiff right now, but I would love to see it just get overcooked and have a shitty hitbox too.

Mika was the only character that deserved every nerf she got in S2. No reason that character should have been able to pull that many mixup's and resets midscreen.

Nash got hit hard on two fronts
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Is this it? Has Harada been killed by the japanese cold?
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>>165822751
Maybe he's being punished for not releasing T7
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>>165822539
>hasbro polls for a new town monopoly
>the equivalent of "my ass" town wins by a landslide
>hasbro silently removes all traces of poll
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>>165822731
I'm scared that if there's a preseason patch lariat's gonna get gutted. It's really dumb right now but, to be cliche, he needs that.
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>>165804691
Because S1 was 6 months plus a 3 month break
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>>165821954
What's wrong with necalli or rashid? Could've said birdie or fang.
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what's the strongest move in fighting games?
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>>165822923
Lariat just need a bit of hitbox trimmed

Or leave it alone and just make air SPD have a ton more recovery so his mix has more risk even if thats not a great option to begin with

Alex just needs the pushback nerf on his f-hp reverted

I still want a redo on the S2 ryu changes. I want that character to be strong, but mediocre reward tools, not shitty tools but stupid high reward.
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>>165823071
CS era Hazama houtenjin
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>>165823071
pot buster
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>>165823071
BURAKKU
HAWK
STINGAH
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>>165822315
Hermit Purple wasn't ever THAT reliable to begin with. How many cameras did he break to try to even get a slightly clearer picture of DIO?
Plus he's ancient now. He prolly can't use it even that well anymore
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>>165823328
>. How many cameras did he break to try to even get a slightly clearer picture of DIO?

1

That was also the reason why he came back to Japan anyway. He just forgot to do it after Kira changed his face
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>>165822246
That was zoning, git gud
Braxien is best Poke waifu
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>>165823259
Meh, i give this one 4 thumbs down

BHS is just a high damage ender, but you always know when its coming

PotBuster is hype as shit to hit in GG and generally hard to see coming
CS houtenjin was the reversal from hell that FCed you for 6k for daring to try a meaty
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>>165823071
Falcon Punch.
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>>165823396
It's actually vaporeon
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>>165822751
Looks like Tekken 7 is going to be delayed folks.
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>>165823071
100x big bang kamehameha
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>>165823548
Vapoeron isn't even the best version of Eevee
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>>165823672
I can't believe a share a thread with someone like you

im outta here
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>>165823116
All Ryu needed was j.lk nerfed and a bit of damage taken off shoryu, honestly. I have no idea why they changed so much shit.
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>tfw can't find my character in gg
ramlethal is close but i like to play neutral too and earn my mixups but she feels too extreme you either bully people or get bullied
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>>165824061
Play Kum
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>>165805614
I had this thing full of wheat you put in in the microwave to warm my hands up for CSGO, I don't need them for FGs because I get hot and sweaty in less than 20 minutes.
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>>165823548
who is this qt?
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200 hours in mvc2 and 100 in TvC and yet I struggle every night making the transition to sfv.

One of these nights I'm sure I'll throw my controller and release myself from this torture.
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>>165824061
PLAY VENOM
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>>165819920
Ino's weird because she looks broken as fuck on paper but then you actually play her and she's kinda shit.
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>>165824420
>200 hours

Not enough friend.
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Not much but here
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Did Capcom forget to release more information about MVCI? What's the new character?
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>>165824972

what's the deal with the other guy? looks like a hair metal version of valkenhayn.
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Someone explain what dangers capcom's rootkit presents to my computer. This is like a virus right? Don't know how these things work.
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>>165824769
but I'm good at mvc2
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>>165825203
It lets me put shit on your pc and run it as an admin without even confirming at all or needing user input. I can install anything and tamper with any of your settings or do pretty much what I want if you have that installed.
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>>165825203
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>>165825180
He's Chipp's VP or something. America was taken over by weebs.
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>>165825294
IS that legal?
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>>165825409
Fuck no it's not legal. It's a fucking rootkit.
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>autistic kusoge beggar samefagging about the virus meme that was fixed in 1 (one) day
lol, this is why your kusoge is dead and capcom is #1
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>>165825480
Why haven't we banded together for class act lawsuit?? What the hell that's messed up
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>>165825316
They live in their own country, though. The Eastern Chipp Kingdom is somewhere else.
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>>165825592
capcucks literally defended capcom for that fiasco, they're beyond help
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>>165825592
Why do you think people are raising awareness outside of this fucking shit posting general?
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>>165825616
Oh did people actually leave to go live there? Why would they?
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>should i play my dead (non-capcom made) kusoge or should i shitpost about a dead meme??
>waaaah waaah why is my kusoge dead
why are non-capcom players so low iq?
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>>165825763
You really want people to play (capcom-made) kusoge don't you?
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>tfw the kusoge beggar would rather samefag and shitpost about a good fighting game (sfv) than play his dead kusoge
really made me think.. no way i'm gonna pick up a dead kusoge now...
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>kusoge
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>You lived long enough to see people defend a video game installing rootkit on their computer
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>>165826135
It was just a prank bro. PC version still a pile of shit anyway.
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>>165826135
It was a "friendly" rootkit. Google the term if you aren't familiar.
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>decide to go to walmart to pick up some snacks after i get off of work
>pass by the electronics aisle
>have some spare change left over so i decide to see what's on sale
>sfv is in bargain bins
>don't want to waste my money
>meanwhile arcsys is still being based
>guilty gear is being supported with rich content that won't kill it off like sfv season 2
>revelator 2 will take sf's throne as the rightful king of fighting games

feels fucking great bros, we did it
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>>165800092
try every character and see what you like, the game is very different from street fighter
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>>165824745
>could end the match with dhm
>lets him live to make things interesting

fino is truly a venom of the people
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>>165806763
yea word up, Sol is the Ryu of GG, aka the fundamental character

>>165796065
lmao making yourself look like a fool
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>>165821235
now you can play SFV as well!
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>>165826704
Uninstalled literally the day before the rootkit happened.
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>>165825316
>Kagura's ninja assistant was put in BB
>afterwards Chipp's ninja assistant was put in GG
I'm sensing a pattern.
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>>165819920
i mean the unga mascot is literally Leo
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>kappa post of the year is a /fgg/ post
Ummm..
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>>165826764
>tfw I suck with Leo
His neutral just feels weird. How do you even start the UNGA?
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>>165826760
>naoto the edge
>raven the edge

now where do es and mai fit in
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>>165826894
berserker slash
iad jump k
5h
sonic boom yrc
sit in back turn at full screen
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>>165826884
who cares
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>Starcraft community went back to the game their love after blizzard fucked off with their money
I hope this day comes for the capcom game community soo, too.
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>>165826640
No that would be Ky. Sol is the ranked Ken of GG.
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>>165827239
Ky is not the poster boy of GG fundamentals
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>>165827192
It will when CPT ends

Just like how SF4 developed the scene WITH NO CAPCOM FUNDING
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>>165827192
capcom community wont do it but other fighting franchises might
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>>165827192
I'm going nuts watching these 2 after so long, if only people would drop this SFV garbage
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>tfw no one played sfiv when it was relevant because it was a shit kusoge with shit mechanics
>tfw everyone is playing sfv despite the terrible launch and technical issues
holy shit!!!!! SFV > SFIV
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>>165827351
Capcom community in the west didn't transition into SF3
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>>165824061
just deploy both swords and go ham as Ram
no one ever expects that shit, and remember to retrieve when you do laser
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>>165827431
This, sf4 babies are extremely delusional no one wants to touch sleep fighter 4 ever again.
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>>165827431
>>tfw no one played sfiv when it was relevant because it was a shit kusoge with shit mechanics
lmao you actually believe this
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>>165827431
remove crouch tech and change focus attack to only work for comboes and it will be the best sf game ever made

best fighting game ever made
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just think about it : sfv has terrible PR, terrible sales, terrible launch, no singleplayer content for casualbabies, terrible technical issues and it's still more played than sfiv and has more entrants at tournaments......

holy shit........ it means that........
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>>165827578
Buff fireballs and walkspeed and reduce input delay and sfv is the best sf ever made
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>>165827614
Yes it means that capcom fanatics only play the newest capcom game.
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>>165825250
>300 total hours in fighting games
>Good

Doubt it
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>>165827654
yeah look at all the goobers playing older goober gears... oh wait...
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>>165827716
goobers don't have the misfortune of having a company that charges $40 for a ~25 year old game
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>>165827716
Why compare yourself to a very niche game? Look at a game with similar sized community like smash.
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>unbalanced kusoge super turdbo has a scene
>unbalanced kusoge turd strike has a scene
>unbalanced kusoge sleep fighter 4 has NO SCENE
really makes you think

put sfiv in the dumpster where it belongs!!! feels good to use uninstall.exe on sleep fighter 4 and NEVER EVER play it again
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>>165813973

Black kids acting like coons and thugs. YOU ARE PLAYING FUCKING VIDEO GAMES, WE ARE ALL NERDS. REAL TALK, STOP PRETENDING. YOU BITCHES WOULD GET SHOT UP IN THE STREETS.
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>>165827812
Its not old enough to be nostalgia'd about.

Give it 5 years
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>>165827614
>no singleplayer content for babies
Hold it, that's wrong
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cTdQ7Xx4Q34
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>>165827812
>>unbalanced kusoge super turdbo has a scene
where?
>>unbalanced kusoge turd strike has a scene
1 tournament a year is not a scene
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>>165827759
but smash is not a fighting game, comparing different genres is not a good idea imho

shoutout to the smash scene for keeping their kusoge alive and going to tournaments tho
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>>165827917
Don't you have a job?
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>>165827614
It had nothing to do with the game, it had to do with EVO going to a bigger place which allowed more space for people to enter.

http://evo2015.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/index.html
http://evo2016.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/index.html

as you can see from the comparison, all games had more entrants
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>>165819172
>>165819172

>play Laura to troll fags online in ranked
>play Ramlethal in training mode for the fun of it

Life is good.
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>only Jack-O player i can find is someone playing against a fucking gook I-No player
someone help a brotha out
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anyone EU for some 3rd strike on fightcade?
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>>165827940
how is that question relevant to fighting games?
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>>165820005

UNIEL was my first anime game after SF. I like it a lot, but a lot of the characters are fucking gay. It just comes with the anime territory I guess. Only Akatsuki tickled my fancy. Definitely try it, though. If you like it, then get GG.
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>>165828163
Uniel is not anime. You faggots need to follow your own made up genre descriptions.
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>>165827614
Considering SFV isn't in the Shinjuku Taito, it's the definition of Kusoge
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>>165828229
He meant the artstyle, dumbass.
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>>165828229
Uniel is way anime.
It being honest game of neutral is just a meme.
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>>165828229

>looks way anime
>sounds way anime
>air dashes

You are right, it's a 3d fighter.
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>>165828253
>if it's not on my dying platform it's a kusoge
i'll go ahead and say no
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>>165828047
https://keeponrock.in/
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>>165828485
can we just replace that shitty website with a redirect to mdesilva's youtube account? it's slow and basically just that
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Is hating Smash a meme? You people had me so biased against those guys and that game before I even met any of them that I was surprised how nice they were when I went to a tournament and some guys were running casuals for it. The game itself doesn't even seem that bad, just weird. Granted, I'm not American, so maybe it's different there.
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https://youtu.be/P5xjgWjHawQ?t=11m2s
you can't dust after YRC, but you can dust after RRC?
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>Wake up
>Urien still not nerfed so I still can't play him
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>>165828669
Why would you listen to socially retarded shitposters here? Smash did not get so big by having a shit community and unfriendly people as majority.
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>>165828468
only hear excuses, kusoge player
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>>165828781
LoL, CoD, DotA, and CSGO are ultra mega toxic and still have lots of players.
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>>165828669
>hating smash
Smash is not a fighting game so I still don't understand why you people bring that shit here.
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>>165828829
every generic shooter or moba that gets big is super toxic
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>>165828829
>unironically using the word toxic
never post in my thread again
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>>165829030
>unironically saying unironically
never post in my thread again
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>>165828996
Because it still gets brought to tournaments and the players show up to majors? I'll complain about anything at an event that bothers me. Moldy pizza also isn't a fighting game, but if they're serving it at a regional tournament, you can bet I'm going to say something about it.
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>>165829073
>ironically saying unironically unironically
never post in my thread again
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>>165829109
>Ironically unironically ironically
never
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>>165828781
The American FGC is full of retarded derps and is still pretty big.
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Wtf is this shitty survival mode sfv
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>>165829292
#PayUp
>>
what the FUCK was that
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Why did fighting game tournaments have such a divergent evolution from FPS tournaments, despite them having pretty similar beginnings?
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>>165829292
easy and normal are okay. Hard is literally unbeatable
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>>165829601
kys eceleb kid
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>>165829635
Chad Warden is not an e celeb, he hasn't made a video since 2007
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>>165829601
>despite them having pretty similar beginnings?
That's not true at all
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>>165829601
>fgc is the only community on consoles
>still far behind every other game that focuses on pc
makes ya think yer know
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>>165829719
>group of guys in a room calling each other faggots decide to organize competitions
>companies didn't jump into hosting tournaments until later
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>>165829774
Are PC games ahead in any way but pricing and prize money? I mean, yeah, those are pretty big deals, but what disadvantages are there besides the ones that automatically come with proprietary hardware such as having to pay for online and being forced to buy a new controller or a converter every time generations switch?
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>>165829827
Capcom was organizing official tournaments from SF2 up to SFA3
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>>165829827
But Id software first had QuakeCon in 1996
>>165829912
Where did they advertise these? Just flyers and such? Were these like the Sega Cup?
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>>165830000
They were in arcades
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>>165826640
So GG """fundamentals""" are gorilla dashing and mashing? Really makes me think.
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>>165827917
That way of thinking is why fighting games will never evolve. You're so used to being fucked by companies that you don't look at how many other companies in other genres will use much better practices. Even Mike Ross said that fighting games will need a PC focus and lower prices if they want to compete with esports.
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>>165830115
Who is the Ryu of Melty?
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>>165827812
What's funny about posts like these is that they go torn apart when they were written and the person got called dumb, but now that all of the attention and money has shifted to SFV, you people can all finally admit that you hate Street Fighter IV. Time to apologize to Razorfist, shills.
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Can't wait till CPT starts and no one will play Urien except for Nemo desu
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>>165830308
Fighting games will never ever be competitive with other genres purely from a game design standpoint. It has nothing to do with pricing or accessibility.
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>>165830319
It's hard to say, but I think C-Ciel is a good candidate in every meaning of "the Ryu". She is both similar to Ryu in that she's a jack of all trades with decent zoning and projectile capabilities and in that she teaches you a bit about everything in the game.
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>>165830524
Why is that? 1v1 with high execution isn't viable as something popular? Then why did Starcraft get so big?
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>>165830619
been out of the loop, whens rev 2 for PC and will it include the rev characters?

plz spoonfeed me
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>>165830670
autistic koreans, just visit >>>/vg/sc2 to see yourself
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>>165830834
Why are you asking me, also they haven't said anything yet.
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>>165830834
Rev2 doesn't come out until 2018 for consoles
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>>165830670
fighting games have a victim mentality. they always come up with all sorts of crazy reasons for why fighting games will never be popular.

fact is simply that japs can't make proper competitive games. look at how spectacularly capcom fucked up sf5. the servers are shit, the netcode is shit, they couldn't even get the shop working so they had to go back to using the steam store, etc.

just imagine street fighter 5 in the hands of blizzard or valve.

problem with japan is that they have a terrible hacker culture. their government arrests people for writing hobby projects like hacks for single player games. so you end up having kids with an interest in computer science having the interest stripped away from them. after school they end up working as a nameless codemonkey for a giant software company and that's how you end up with stuff like sony's servers getting hacked.
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>>165830969
Why can't Americans just make a good fighting game, then?
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>>165830619
Lmao. C-ciel is a gimmicky character with weak options cause of overnerfing that happened since mbac.
>>165830319
F-Aoko is the closest you can get to ryu in both playsyle and being easy to pick up. She also is relatively strong.
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>>165831050
They are too intelligent to make fighting games
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Do you faggots even want your game of choice to be popular anyway? All you ever do when a game has too many players is complain about the amount of newfag button mashers you have in your community now.
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>>165831185
F-Aoko is sfv Ryu

C-Ciel is real Ryu
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>>165830968
Rev 2 will release before Tekken 7.
>>165830834
Spring in arcades and some time later for all home systems at the same time.
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>>165831354
>rev 2 will release before tekken 7

that literally doesnt mean anything
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>>165831332
Brick do you know this?
>>165820481
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UNIEL[st] when
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KoF player here.


If jumping is designed to be incredibly unsafe in Street Fighter, why is it even in the game? Just as a high risk mechanic no one will ever expect to see in a serious match?
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>>165830969
Starcraft got big before it had a tournament scene, and Starcraft before its tournament scene is not 1v1 with high execution. "Normal" Starcraft is mostly playing through the extensive campaigns or playing with friends, in teams, with more than than 2 players, on non-competitive maps like Big Game Hunter. So saying it got big despite being 1v1 with high execution is wrong because people did not play 1v1 and it did not focus on high execution. The tournament scenes came later and it was not forced on the players. The majority of players still played non-competitive games even if they enjoyed watching competitive Starcraft. Fighting games are like if Starcraft launched with only 1v1 and only competitive maps.
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>>165831478
I honestly didn't even remember she had a roll, so it's probably not super useful?
Try seeing if they say anything about it in the melty bits guide

https://drunkardshade.com/2015/10/17/melty-bits-h-ryougi-shiki/

or mizuumi wiki.
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>>165831736
>no one ever jumps in serious matches
Dumb mexican poster
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>>165831832
So jumping isn't actually that unsafe, then?

Also, I am Brazilian.
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>>165831754
That explains why smash has been exploding. It just offers so much more than just 1v1.
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>>165831832
That's not what he said, you asshat.

>>165831736
But yes, jump-ins basically should be used only when the opponent really expects you to do something else. They leave the option open regardless of risk.
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>>165831736
Jump in place can be used as a defensive option, jumping over fireballs.
Jumping away can be used as a retreat option, jumping away from combo range.
Jumping into the opponent is a high risk high reward type of thing because if it works, you have the potential to combo off of the jump in for huge damage.
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>>165831927
Smash offers another game with Mario on the cover for people to buy.
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>>165831813
Damn that's a shame, thanks
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>>165831927
It's not so much as offering more than the competitive gameplay (LoL doesn't really), it's just that you need to attract non-competitive players in SOME way (Non-competitive gameplay is how Smash and SC1 did it, but Overwatch and LoL are popular despite the lack of it). A game that focuses only on its competitive scene will have no casuals, which is where sales come from, and games with no casuals don't grow huge scenes because you need shitty players for strong players to matter (and also to have spectators).
It is why Starcraft 2 is so small compared to Starcraft 1 while Smash 4 is growing.
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>>165831478
>>165831813
>>165832147
Oh, btw if you want you should join the melty discord, it's full of nice people that will help you out if you have a question like that!

Just use the #serious-discussion channel, there's a bunch of people that play H-Ryougi so they could help you.
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>>165832267
I don't want to get sent to a Canadian prison
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>>165832167
Overwatch added lots of silly extra modes now.


No idea why so many companies release games without this extra content and are surprised that casual sales are lackluster. Ed boon figured this out decades ago.
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>>165832167
>it's just that you need to attract non-competitive players in SOME way
This. It doesn't even have to be gameplay related. Overwatch for example is popular because of the story and the characters are appealing.

BW got popular for being a free game in pcbangs that even celebs would play in their free time. It was through availability.

LoL got popular for exposing the west to a genre that was previously played mainly in China and the game hit right when streaming first started getting big. It was through exposition.

CSGO had a boom in viewership because once the game was fixed, they did a lot of work to improve the watching experience. It was through spectator appeal.

Having more casual modes is fine (BW had stuff like BGH, LoL eventually had shit like ARAM and Dominion, etc) but there's many easier ways to get people interested in your game one way or another, even if they don't even play it.
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>>165833074
Heavy advertisement? I'm convinced that's how Tekken 3 became a hit.

Also, didn't Americans come up with the Action RTS genre? Was it really more popular in China?
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>3 EVOs with arcade Tekken 7 incoming

i guess arcade money is really that good
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>>165828691
Are you the guy that asked how to use dust yesterday? If so, that is exactly what I told you.
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>>165833074
So Capcom needs to develop characters beyond the "dream match: nature of 4 and 5?
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>>165833281
what would be the real reason for no release date?
trouble porting to ps4?
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>>165830115
Why did you just type up SFV
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>>165833557
Probably
Though the only problem I've heard of with it is awful loading times,and that was months ago. They should have fixed it by now.
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>>165831736
>If jumping is designed to be incredibly unsafe in Street Fighter, why is it even in the game? Just as a high risk mechanic no one will ever expect to see in a serious match?

backwards jump is a defensive movement option

neutral jump is a very flexible option - it's the best option against command grabs, its a way to avoid projectiles without taking chip damage or losing ground, it can punish shit like dash punch if you anticipate it, can also be good against jump-ins

forward jump is a high risk / high reward offensive option. it's also the most basic way to punish the enemy for throwing a predictable fireball.
jumping in is only incredibly unsafe if you do it from mid screen and in a situation where your opponent is free to react to it with a good anti air. if you do it while pressuring your opponent, anti airing becomes very hard to do. some characters also have a really hard time anti-airing crossups, so doing a forward jump from very close can be really good.

the "good players dont jump" and "good players always anti air" memes are bullshit, but they serve a good purpose - if you don't know what you are doing, your jumps will be shit with bad spacing and bad timing, and a bad jump will actually get anti aired nearly 100% of the time if your opponent is even slightly competent at the game.
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Why can I never block Karins dumb rainbow move into sweep

I swear im blocking low and it always hits
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>>165834027
8 frames
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>you can do the motion late after the button press and the special will still come out
Why is this allowed NRS??
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>>165833909
>if you don't know what you are doing, your jumps will be shit with bad spacing and bad timing,
You can replace "jumps" here with basically anything in the gtame
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>>165833239
Heavy advertisement can work but it's costly and doesn't guarantee returns. SC2 had a really heavy handed advertisement campaign, especially in Korea, on top of BW's scandals with match fixing and Blizz's lawsuit against Kespa at the time. It still failed hard.

As for that genre, it's still more popular in China today (there's a lot of people there you know), but now everyone's exposed to it in the west too. Back then even competitive WC3 was more of a China thing though.

>>165833486
That would definitely help, but I think their biggest problem right now is SFV just being a borefest to watch. If you look back at USF4, yes we all call it sleepfighter, but the game gave players a lot of liberty to express themselves through gameplay and that kind of shit excites viewers. It makes it easier for people to distinguish who is who and what advantages they may have against each other. It makes for good casual viewer talks and generates fans for the players. Last Capcup getting a drop in views demonstrates this.

Character-wise I think they're fine, even newer characters like Juri and Laura are popular. They just need a little more substance. Laura's entire character and backstory can be summed up in a few words.
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>>165834301
sc2 was a success though, lots of people got it for the campaign
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>Laura crosses me under after EX fireball
>Have to guess between a command grab, a throw or a button
>Always guess wrong

Laura was a mistake
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>>165834301
>but the game gave players a lot of liberty to express themselves through gameplay and that kind of shit excites viewers. It makes it easier for people to distinguish who is who and what advantages they may have against each other.
I call absolute bullshit.
The average streamboar is absolutely clueless and only parrots what the commentators say.
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What's a command grab?
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>>165834434
A grab that has a motion input and is untechable.
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>>165834160
yeah, but having bad spacing and timing on some random poke usually won't get you blown up immediately unless its some ultra slow recovery move like a sweep
a bad jump on the other hand is easily punishable on reaction
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>>165834419
what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7_b1aMJHDA

this match shows you two different characters
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>>165832893
Yes but the regular mode was already good enough for casuals.

>>165833074
>Overwatch for example is popular because of the story and the characters are appealing.
Every fighting games already has this and it's one of the strenght of the genre. However as other mascot-based genres are popping up (MOBAs and hero-based FPS), fighting games no longer has a monopoly on this but aren't providing enough other content to make up for it.
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>>165834391
But I like Laura
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>Favorite hentai artist retweets Xrd announcements but doesn't do any GG porn
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>>165834382
Sure, and they were all disappointed because the campaign was awful. In the end SC2 stopped being relevant in the minds of everyone. It was successful in the same way Diablo 3 was successful.

>>165834419
The average streamboar doesn't know much, but in 4 the same character being played by 2 different people was visibly obvious. Daigo Ryu and Valle Ryu are completely different beasts.

>>165834524
>but aren't providing enough other content to make up for it.
Exactly this
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>>165834634
Maybe he likes the game and respects the characters too much.
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friendly reminder that fighting games are more popular than they have ever been
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>>165831332
>>165831185
F-Aoko has a bad fireball even by Melty standards, no way is she anything resembling Ryu.
More like SF3 Ken.
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>>165834517
I'd bet all of my money that your average stream watcher would not be able to tell you which one is daigo and which one is valle.

Tokido and Daigo had completely different Ryus in SFV too and people couldnt tell.
Its all just one retarded meme at this point. The type of shit you read on /r/kappa.
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See me in super mario party bros
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>>165834832
>Tokido and Daigo had completely different Ryus in SFV too and people couldnt tell.
They could though. And they could tell the difference between Infil Nash and everyone else's. SFV just doesn't have enough of this.
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>>165834729
Only because the world's population is higher
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>>165834729
Fighting games have peaked. Will there ever be a 5000 man tourney ever again? Only invitationals and esports are ahead
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>>165835031
how do you know they have peaked?
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>>165834491
Except in SFV where almost everything beyond throw range is punishable by a jump.
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The price of Rev 2 update is 2000 yen.

Source is this week's famitsu
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>>165833074
LoL got popular because of well chosen marketers (who did it for free)
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>>165835129
So 20 bucks I guess?
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>>165835215
yes
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>>165834434
Fighting game talk for cancer
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>>165835215
$60 on PC
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>>165835129
Holy shit, only $20 for two whole characters? Based Arc System Works does it again.
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>>165835287
Why would it be more expensive when both Sign and Revelator were cheaper than their console counterparts?
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>>165834918
>They could though.
Then there is no actual problem.

So many players playing characters differently.
Mago and Wong
Fuudo and Marn and Nuckledu
Nuckledu and ISDD
Momochi and the american triangle frauds
Itabashi and Snakeyez
Gachikun and Valle
Gllty and Chimp

All playing the same characters noticeably different. Many times way more different than that Daigo vs Valle match which is standard as fuck Ryu play from both sides by the way.

And to get back to the point: You shouldnt ever give stream watchers credit.
If you replaced boring ass shits like Ultradavid and Chen with Yipes peoples reactions would be way different because then one man shouting would give them the que that whats happening on the stream is HYPE.
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hanabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gamefight/1484398205/813

Rev 2 famitsu leak, I'm assuming it's not fake since I've never seen these turn out to be false.
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Fuck I'm horny.
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>>165835460
>>165835460
>>165835460
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>>165835447
flea no!!
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>>165835396
>All playing the same characters noticeably different.
lol
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Condom.
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>>165833778
Shit hardware does not magically get better. There is no hidden optimisation to unlock from this locked pc.
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>>165834646
Nice void posts.
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>>165835361
Just a sonygger trying to bait.
>>165835129
That sounds like a good deal if they have another story mode.
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>>165829601
the same way any other casual crap became popular, because they are team games
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>>165835421
20$ thats so nice
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