/lite/ RogueLITE General

God damn, Antibirth has some really cool music.

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>>165772228
delete this

>>165772582
Who told him that it was a good idea to shave his beard like this ?

>>165772861
True men don't listen to beard tips.

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>>165771626

>>165771626
Slugs master race!

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what mods do you want to see put in at the end of the month?

>>165774410
There's no Booster Pack for January.
First Booster is in February.

>final floor as cadence
>coffin is surrounded entirely by slime
GOOD THING I'M OUT OF BOMBS

Anyone watching bisnap's run?

Absolute insanity. twitchDOTtv/bisnap

>>165774505
well what mods do you want at the end of February?

>>165774736
Green isaac

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>Kept thinking enemies were going faster than usual
>Thought it was my imagination
>Happens again REALLY FUCKING OBVIOUSLY in a room with two portals
>On the second floor during daily
Before I unpause and get flattened by the crowd of unusually fast flies, anyone feel like telling me what's happening?

>>165775760
Did you pick up the broken stopwatch?

>>165775843
Nope, flooded basement with Apollyon, all I have so far is Torn Photo + Pentagram.

does delirium have the hush/u.greed armor?
also whats the best strategy to beat him with all characters?

>>165775760
I'm excited pill?

>>165775760
I got instantly killed when i had a full heart by a non-champion globin, so i don't know what's going on this daily either

>>165774736

Hopefully some actual content and not just 'heres some OP as fuck edgelord items and the external descriptions mod'

>>165776001
Chaos Card, Plan C

>>165776823
does plan c one-shot delirium?and isnt his death animation much longer than yours?

>>165776823

Delirium is immune to Chaos.

You gotta savor this steak.

>>165776001

He doesn't have boss armor but he does have nearly twice Hush's health pool, which makes it feel like he has armor if you're not crazy op.

So I found what appears to be a sacrifice room in Antibirth, but I can run onto the spikes in the middle? Halp plz?

>>165778140

Nevermind, I realized I have Orphan socks, and that's what making it not work.

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>Start up /lite/ game
>Right away get an amazing, unique new setup or synergy
>"Holy shit, this is it, this is the run!"
>"IM GON DO IT!!"
>Game strangles you with a slow, atrophy of bullshit until you meet your demise
>Know in your heart you will never, ever see those same circumstances again

Is there any worse feel than this feel.
When did it happen to you?

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>>165774686
He's pretty shit desu.
He has no sense of direction and keeps forgetting what rooms look like, every time he gets teleported he has to look in two different doors to remember where he is ffs.
Besides that he takes WAY too long to reposition, tunnel visioning bad.
>Walk in room and immediately focus on the slowest, most easily avoided enemy(?)
>Let it drive him into corner, knowing he'll kill it in time
>Completely ignores the spiders working their way around him
>Misses a three second window to thread the needle between the two groups, just focuses fire
>Dear Diary

Honestly if this is what it takes to get 1k viewers why haven't I started streaming yet

>>165781626
Why HAVEN'T you started streaming yet? Give me something to watch, you pleb.

>>165779551
Isaac Afterbirth.
>Rubber Cement Parasite Cricket's Body Soy Milk Tiny Planet with Lost Contact
>0 damage ups, I just started fucking rolling with the retardation halfway through
>Die slowly and painfully
Our Darker Purpose feels that way constantly.
>Most everything meshes well together
>Getting anywhere takes a good bit of skill, which I lack

>>165781626
Just beat ultra hard. Idk senpai he's good.

>>165774686
>Samson feels healthy!
It took getting brimstone, leviathian, purple homing tears, and two tear blocking familiars, and he still almost fucked it up by not even bothering to try and dodge. What a shitter.

>>165782447
>>165781626
Lads when I posted that he had a run where he got ipecac ludo polyphemus on azazel in the first 2 floors.

That run long ended.

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thanks edmund

>>165782406
Satanic bible, dry baby and homing brimstone. It would take a retarded monkey to fail with that setup.

He sucks, he was rushing through like it was a hush run, completely skipping chests, games and even some treasure rooms, pinned himself constantly, got lost nonstop. I even saw him enter a room with 1 charge missing on his bible, pick up a battery before clearing the room, then activate it AFTER clearing it. What kind of a retard wastes a battery like that with a satanic bible.

>>165782664
>ipecac ludo polyphemus on azazel
>still failing

>>165782406
>thinking he's good

My fucking sides

>>165782828
Try bombing it out of the way?

>>165783032
>>ipecac ludo polyphemus on azazel
>>still failing

He won delirium under 20 minutes though.

Curse of the Blind is such overkill on Ultra Hard

it turns it from mostly luck to 100% luck

>>165776823
>immune
>unless you're Laz with a revive you'll die before getting the achievement
You meant Straw

>>Ctrl f
>>Invisible inc
>>nothing found

What a bunch of niggers you are

>>165779551
Literally every time I see Jacob's Ladder except once where it gave me a 6 room at the last possible moment so I only died on the inside.

>>165784891
I would buy it if only because it was made by Klei, but I'm a poorfag.

>Uranus - Ice Tears
>Chance to freeze enemies
>You can walk into enemies to slide them into enemies
>You can destroy frozen enemies for a Tammy's Head-like attack
This is the most fun fucking tear effect ever.

>>165779551
>Hard mode with Lilith
>Immediately get immaculate conception, duct tape and car battery
>Trade my heart to satan for a dark bum
>Get two leeches from curse rooms
>Use them with fly spawners to farm damage for familiar spawns
>Holy shit I've got a huge ass family this is the run I take down hard mega satan
>All I need now is hearts to feed dark bum
>...All I need is hearts, please...
>Only 1 half heart through all necropolis
>Only 1(ONE) whole heart in the entirety of womb I
>Dark bum poops out a spider
>I SAID I NEED HEARTS YOU FUCKING GAME
>Halfway through womb II still no hearts at all
>Get held down and gangfucked by tall red speedy spiders in THAT room

Fucking so sad. I love duct-tape + Lilith so much it hurts. Why can't I ever get it ever.

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>two weeks later and the tiny room with the champion tentacles on the womb is still in the game

>>165786160
There's an item called the freezer baby or something that does the same thing, but as a familiar, although you have to kill the enemy with it's shots for it to get frozen.

>>165786160
Agreed. Ice Tears as a mechanic is fucking amazing. Makes me wish for a Nordic/general Cold Storage floor set.

>>165787368
it is a little strange that there aren't any ice tears. its so obvious.

>>165787368
Speaking of alt floors,
>Burning Basement was the bullshit we got along with Rag Man, Little Horn at least fits in there
>Rag Man and Dobson would fit way better on an alternate floor called the Tomb, being an Egyptian sandstone floor, probably in place of Flooded Caverns
>Can then also make a bunch of Raggedy enemies (And let's face is, Rag Man is too tanky to be a Floor 1/2 boss)

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Hey guys? I'm on the first floor in April's Fool. I used my Wait What and this spawned. Is it what I think it is?

>>165791451

ventricle razor

>>165791451
>April's Fool
>that low health
How are you doing this badly? April's Fool is one of the best and most fun challenges when done right.

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>>165792342
It shows the health bar wrong. I think I used "Guppy's Paw" too much. I'm now on the second floor.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD7yC87xzPo

>>165792483
>Soy Milk
>Libra
Well done. I assume you figured out the gimmick by now, right? Get all Gold Hearts and live forever.

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>>165792649
I got rerolled again and now have two Knives, spoon bender, and mantle.

>>165792798
Explore all rooms. Collect every pickup. Become immortal. Never fear Bloat again.

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>>165793079
This is insanity.

>>165793501
I'm glad you like it.

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>>165794192
I only actually fought him twice.

What if...
Now hear me out...
Ultra Bloat.

>>165782828
Is there a Burnt Match Stick somewhere else int he floor?

>Proptosis ruins Brimstone
WHY. THIS WAS A GREAT FUCKING RUN! I HAD 10 HP, GIMPY, AND 40+ damage. FUCKING WHY!

>trying April's Fool
>find The Poop
>use it
>it's actually Clicker
>now I'm Eve
>clicker disappears
did I fug myself
I don't think she has Babylon

What the fuck is the trick to April's Fool?
I know about the golden hearts but I fucking die to Bloat no matter what the fuck I have. Fucking ridiculous.

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>>165796847
>picked up IV bag
>mfw I have an infinite amount of randomized use items
should I just spam it and see what happens?

>>165797975
Plan C

>>165796847
Get good, you can beat the first floor bloat without any powerups, after that it's just going crazy with consumables.

Alternatively, get a sacrifice room, spam that shit for free soul/golden hearts which you can turn into more hearts and other consumables. You just want as many consumables as possible.

>>165798545
good call, I stopped after I got D100 and rolled into an awesome build. my last one ended when I accidentally used Suicide King

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>First lost run since before they added free mantle
>No devil deals, just shitty angel rooms
>Get spirit sword + mom's knife synergy
>Manage guppy transformation through curse rooms
>Get menorah thinking it's useless since I have to take damage for it to activate anyways
>End up dying once on the witness and notice that menorah was adding more laser shots from sword and that I would shoot multiple waves of it
>Die a few more times to get menorah at full power
>Now able to shoot 7-8 waves of 6 sword lasers while throwing my spinning sword

This was a fun run. I wish I could've fought mega satan after it.

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This little nigga can turn a shitty run to solid fucking GOLD.

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>>165799497
>telefragging niggers
>getting shit from over pits without flying
>teleporting out of impossible-to-avoid situations
The best.

>>165792798
>>165792798

>0 cooldown active item
>april's fool

1. find some gold hearts
2. find a sacrifice room
3. warp to dark room from basement 1
4. spam no cooldown active until game breaks and you win the game

>>165799717
Don't forget:
>If an enemy has tears really close to it when you TP and frag it, it'll remove those too, so you don't take damage

>>165794407

I'd prefer ultra horn

>>165799950
Shit, really?
Goddamn.

>>165798870
Suicide King is the drawback to spamming cards.
Plan C is the drawback to spamming spacebar items.
No drawback to pills though. :^)

>>165800047
Won't remove Creep tho. Or save you from an Exploding Champion's suicide bomb.

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>>165796847

do >>165799867

also WHY DOES THE GREED MACHINE JAM?

>>165800154
Maybe you should slow the fuck down ;)

>>165800154
>0%
Infinite mad.

how does one "enjoy" apollyon? every time I try to play him it feels like im playing a really shitty character with a mediocre tacked on active item gimmick.

>>165801479
He's actually a really average character with one of if not the best active item in the game tacked on.

Imagine a world where Isaac started with the D4 and the Lost started with the D6

>>165802312
Way better than classic Isaac nowadays.

>>165773707
90 scrap for 5 fuel REEEEEEE

>tfw I voided a D∞

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW

>>165803407
how does this even work? do you lose void?

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>doing FUCKING great as Lost
>walk in
>Sister Vis
>oh fuck, better run and let ???'s only friend do some work
>they both jump and trap me in a corner
>can't move
>ded
good boss

>>165803471

no it just uses a random dice effect

>>165803691

protip:stand in the middle of the room, safest place

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Going for Ultra Hard now. Have a good start with Death's Touch and Leech.
Left or right? will probably only take one

>>165804383
Right is always wrong
go for left

>>165804383
Neither. Most 1 Hp Deals aren't worth the hassle.
Especially when you can still use that HP to eat hits and auction it off to the demon lord when it's empty.

>>165804562
>Most 1 Hp Deals aren't worth the hassle.
Good point. The journey continues

>>165804383
Blind 1hp deal risks dead cat which may or may not be a good thing

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First antibirth run through the chest after unlocking the secret floors. Oculus Rift, Split shot and Cross tears on top of Guppy. Holy shit this steak is amazing.

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>tfw barely hanging by a thread
even with Satanic bible I don't think I'm gonna make it
I'm just a poor little white boi

>>165806582
>Stopwatch
>Forgot it was post-nerf for a sec
Sadness.
>Ace of Hearts
Does that even work in Ultra Hard?

>going for boss rush and hush on apollyon

>moms foot kicks me into the fucking void entrance as she dies

fuck you too asshole

how is this stupid bug not fixed by now

>>165806715
no it does not, sun and two of hearts do though

>>165806582

You got this. You have a ton of red heart sustain.
I believe in you, whiteboi anon

>>165806715
Nope I'm keeping Ace of Hearts for good luck

>>165806939
maybe if Leech's field of view wasn't 2 inches. I'm too afraid to even get this close

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>>165807082
FUCKING LEECH DO YOUR JOB
REEEEEEEEEE

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>Car battery + battery follower on lilith in greed
Holy fuck.

Sad to discover there is a limit on followers. I have like 6 super meat boys and three dozen super hairballs, I keep dropping batteries but after so many uses I just stop getting new followers.

This is gonna beat ultra greedier, right?

Any way to get antibirth and afterbirth running at the same time? or are the two just unable to run at the same time on the same game?

>>165807747
stack up on souls hearts dawg

>>165807680
The Leech in Antibirth isn't nearly that retarded. Weird.

Did afterbirth+ turn out any good? Just got my comp fixed and haven't been able to follow isaac stuff for a while.

Steam reviews seem to be complaining its too hard and crashes, has that been addressed? Is it actually too hard?

>>165808445
No. AB+ is an overcooked sack of dog shit.
The items it adds are overall enjoyable, excluding adding ANOTHER fucking HP Up to the Boss Items pool.
The Trinkets are mostly really good too.
Everything else tho is just retarded and needs to be removed.

>antibirth
>1 heart
>use pill
>experimental pill
>health down luck up>die
Beth honey i'm getting tired of your horseshit and your stupid bloody mary challenge

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we still alive bois

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>>165809149
More or less.

>>165809351
>Bloody Mary
>Actually using that Mushroom

>>165809463
That's darkness falls.

>>165809515
Oh.
It's really hard to tell.
Especially when you even have Blood Oath.

>>165808627
Ah. So is most of /lite/ playing with Antibirth rather than Afterbirth+?

Had a laff at the "buy this bundle and save 0% off!" on the afterbirth+ page

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>>165809713
It's a mixed bag here. Some Anti, plenty of +, some people playing other stuff.
I've been playing pic related since it was in the Humble Bundle, but it's an RPG, so I haven't been talking about it here.

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>>165807747
>Killed taking a screenshot

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>>165809149
welp that's the furthest I've gotten
got taken out in a weird way

>>165810164
Uh anon, why arent you holding down the fire button?

>>165810293
>he just blindly holds down the arrow keys for 100% of the run
because I'm not some moron. I wasn't firing at the beginning of the webm in case I ran into a turd that was in my way as I ran away. I also was holding it after the Mega Fatty dropped.

The womb in greedier mode is some bullshit

>>165782828
Drop anything just before it. Picking up a pill/card/rune/trinket means you can keep walking without picking up anything else (besides regular consumables like hearts/coins etc).

Bombing it will work as anon mentioned.

Alternatively, roll with it. It's not that bad really.

>>165811118

>Alternatively, roll with it. It's not that bad really.

I would assume anons problem is it would ruin his whore of babylon and poloroid/negative

>get Euthanasia
>get Cricket's Body
>get Death's Touch
>get Sacred Heart
>get a fuckton of damage ups
>Delirium Fight
>Euthanasia procs off a summon and I can no longer see the screen
I didn't even need to use Car Battery Lv2 Meat Boy 80 cent Midas Touch Book of Shadows.

I had like 5 different win conditions between maw of the void, serpent's kiss, and everything else. Great run to wrap up my post its on.

Also, someone explain to me what the fuck Metronome does cause it gave me the Pinking Sheers follower for an entire floor but usually did fuck all.

>>165812117
metronome activates a random item effect every time you use it, seems like some effects linger for longer than they're supposed too but oh well

>>165811118

the tick used to be pretty good years ago but it's really fallen behind with the power creep trinket's have gone through.

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>save 0% for buying all of our other games in the series

thanks ed

I literally cannot beat Golden Greed

It's so fucking hard there's so much SHIT on the SCREEN

I cannot see myself beating this without Pyromaniac

>>165814865
Range ups, you know that useless shit you avoid at all costs in Greed Mode, are your friend.

Unless you stand in front of the doors or he's standing in the center of the arena, none of his attacks will reach to the opposite side of the screen. Just stick to the far wall, or preferably to the corners, and hit him from afar.

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>have ludovico and fuck-all for upgrades
>beat It Lives
>go to void because fuck it
>curse of the blind, grab missingno
>get some combination of nails, ipecac, play-dough
>about every 10 tears I get blown up by an explosion at my feet, I guess from play-dough or maybe kidney stone
>figure my run is lost because I can't keep hurting myself
>find chaos card
>fling it at delirium
>it doesn't work
At this point I just accept all the shit this game throws at me

>>165816065
>play-dough
?

>>165816124
I mean Fruit Cake. Play dough was the antibirth version

I really need to stop SUCCing Guppy's Paw.

>>165816065
Wait, it was definitely lead pencil, not kidney stone.

>>165816065
i miss yume nikki

People can shit on Binding of Isaac with steak memes all they like, but there's no boss that's RNG determined like Lil Hunter.

Pinnacle of how to not make a fucking boss fight.

good roguelites/roguelikes on 3DS? I love Isaac and ftl

Can this just be renamed to isaac gen? It's literally 90% Isaac posts

>>165819087
Isaac

That's probably about it

>>165772228
Is there any way to get them to play on AB+?

>>165819087
SMD maybe?

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>Antishills will defend this

>>165820138
Defend what, them getting hit a lot?
I haven't watched that much of that series, but that's probably them either not knowing what Witness does, or them being shit at touhou-ish bullet patterns. Or both.

>>165820138
Which one is which?

>>165820540
Halo toddler = Kate, Shitter who CANT STOP GETTING HIT = Egg.

How the hell do people even play Isaac on keyboard? How do you deal with the unability to slow down?

So apparently it's still possible to glitch out of the crawlspace and into the black market. If you touch the left, top, or bottom borders of the crawlspace, you automatically get tp'd back inside the crawlspace; however, the right border doesn't (for obvious reasons). I've been screwing around this and found a few ways to get into the black market.

(2 bombs or Dr.fetus) + remote detonator: same concept as the old glitch except on the opposite wall. Set up two bombs close to the right wall and blast through.
(20/20, inner eye, or mutant spider) + Dr.fetus: same as above.
Minimum 2 smaller pills + 1 bomb: same as above. The smaller you are, the more consistent it is.
Mr.boom + 1 bomb: similar concept as above. You have to run toward the right wall and drop both at the same time when you're about two floor tiles away from the wall. If you do it right, the set up should be Mr.boom - bomb - you - wall. This one's a bit inconsistent.
Bomber boy + Mr.mega: drop a bomb about 4 floor tiles away from the wall and run to the wall. Inconsistent.
(20/20, monstro's lung, anti-gravity, etc.) + ipecac: stand near the top of the left ladder and move to the right edge of the ladder. Shoot left and blast yourself into the ceiling. Walk right to the black market. More consistent if you don't hold right when you shoot.
Minimum 5 smaller pills + max speed: stand at the bottom of the right ladder and run up. You should phase into the ceiling (be careful not to go too far up and get tp'd). May take a few tries. If you also have flight, you can sometimes run straight through the right wall.

>Glaucoma
WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS

>>165820138
>almost full HP, wafer, and sacrificial dagger
>not just ramming the boss
why

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I don't know if the items everyone talks about are from afterbirth or antibirth and I don't know which to play or if af+ is even worth the $10 dollery doos, I just wanna have camaraderie with /lite/

Also do people still talk about Darkest Dungeon?

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>great run
>take the wrong mom item
end me

>>165822228
blind eyes go better with steak than iron bars :)

>>165822826
I think there is a general for DD

>>165822902
>Iron Bar adds a tiny amount of damage
>Glaucoma doesn't
W H Y
H H Y
Y Y Y

Does the straw's %HP damage work on bosses, even to reduced effect, or?

>>165823173
enjoy your cute aestethic effects and stop complaining

>Delirious and Mega Blast no longer spawn through D20 cheese in Greed Mode
Cock sucking moherfucker, don't make me find this item legit. Angel rooms are a pain in the ass enough as is.

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>>165799717
And if you get BFFs he's a recharging Tammy's Head on top of all that. What a fucking bro.

>>165823480
Nevermind. I just suicided 40 times as Eden and got it.

2 enemies to find and I'll be at 100%

>>165824069
Have you SAMmed the two daily ones?

>>165824783
I'm a filthy pirate so I couldn't do those if I wanted to, which I don't. Once I find the last 2 enemies I'll count it as my 1000000% and if I want to play again I'll just download a completed save.

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When you do a victory lap is isaac do you need to go the shoel path again to keep looping?

>>165825029
may satan spare your soul

>>165825042
Until you unlock RERUN, yes. Victory Laps are only through the Lamb

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What's the most efficient to do this room again?
I haven't plaed the game in a year or so.

>>165825110
Hanged Man

So have the boss rush requirements been changed? I took my time on the first few floors but still got in boss rush at 22 minutes.

>>165825545
Did you use Mama Mega? It opens Boss Rush for you.

>>165825545
Certain items can unlock boss rush

>>165782916
Why are streamers so bad at games?

>have 2 heart containers and ∞ soul hearts
>go to devil room
>take a deal for 1 heart
>take another deal for 2 hearts
>suddenly i have absolutely 0 soul hearts
why the FUCK does this keep happening

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>get clicker two rooms before victory lap 2 is done
>reroll from being lost right away
EZ

>>165826319
Cause that's how devil deals worked in Rebirth and you're playing Antibirth which is based on Rebirth.

>>165826319
because you can't scumlord in antibirth

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>>165826360
>>165822827
The next run I got it right and did the Rerun on the same run

>>165822826

Antibirth is worth trying out. Do a quick run through and then play the secret floors, they're awesome and have some very cool enemies and music.

Personally, I think AB+ is worth it - don't get me wrong, it has it faults, and I sure as fuck wouldn't be suggesting it if it was the release version, but it's decent now.

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>>165800154
I've never actually seen this thing jam when I've been filling it, and I've had several 99 coin runs
Am I just the luckiest steak-eater or something?

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>Oculus Rift + Ludovico + Parasite
This is probably the most fun I've had with Ludovico Technique in a long while.

>Ultra Hard
>Brimstone + no healing
>death
>Satanic Bible + no damage ups and a damage down from experimental treatment
>death
fuck this

>>165829650
Occulus Rift in general is great. It and Eye of the Occult are my favorite Antibirth items.

>>165829885
>Ultra RNG
just keep trying and if you're not complete crap you'll win eventually

>>165830217
Most of my recent fun runs usually involved Occulus Rift. With enough luck, it just becomes a free win.

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nice game

>>165820257
The issue with Isaac is that the hitbox of shit isn't clear. When multiple bullets fly at you there are often gaps that seem like Isaac just wouldn't fit through.

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"It's treason then"

>Playing Antibirth as Cain
>Find Backpack and Magic Skin, spam it in Secret Room in Womb enough to have full row of broken hearts
>On last roll get R Key
>Fuck yes, playing like total glasscannon and it's great
>Reset on chest
>On first floor of the new run find Red Key
>FUCK YES
>Play for few floors
>Game crashes from Red Key usage
..I shouldn't even use it until the game gets patched. But it's just so much fun.
At least I unlocked Planetarium.

>>165831269
That looks fun but I'm pretty sure conventional builds are far more effective.

>>165831679
It's probably one of the best builds you can get for crowds and/or bosses with lots of minions, since it just multiplies your normal damage output and sends it in every direction.
I'd probably cry with happiness if I got it in a Greed/Greedier run.

>>165820138

I just had my first run in with that boss. What a sack of shit. I had 3 fucking bullet blocking orbitals, and I was still getting hit like fuck.

The secret floors are absolute horseshit in antibirth.

>>165832952
Maybe you're just bad?

>tfw nuked brownie on the chest
nothing has ever felt so good

>>165820138
I'm only seeing two problems with that:
>Charge has little to no warning not like we don't see that fucking everywhere in this game regardless, but could be prepared for depending on how attack sequencing works
>Sudden tear lines DO have gap for players, but seem too close on one side (could be hitbox issues as usual)

Seems fine otherwise, certainly better than the floating field of assholery Hush gives you and the teleporting problems with Delirium.

>>165833532
The only bullshit Hush attack is the continuum tears. Everything else is tough but fair.

>>165833532
Face Hush a few times and you'll realize it's actually a perfectly fair fight. The only bullshit bosses in the game atm are Delirium and arguably Big Horn.

>>165833614

>Big Horn
>Bullshit

opinion discarded. He's a bullet sponge with unbelievably simple attack patterns that are telegraphed from a mile away.

>>165833590
>>165833614
>Continuum tears
I... actually find those easier to deal with than the normal tears. Continuum ones can be avoided by standing still when he first starts firing, or not having him precisely in the center of the room, since there'll be somewhere safe then.
Tear spam while he's still moving (so the pattern's off), has spawned enemies and is in that invincible state so can't be forced to the next stage is just irritating.

>>165833696
His whole gimmick is being fed bombs to get past his damage resistance, too bad the window of opportunity to do that is far too small. Also I forgot him but Red Ragman is not exactly enjoyable either if you don't have enough damage.

>>165833803
>Continuum ones can be avoided by standing still when he first starts firing
You'll still be hit if you chose to stand still in an unsafe spot, m8
>or not having him precisely in the center of the room
Right, so the attack's only bullshit during one phase of the boss. Still bullshit.

>>165833891
Is Red Ragman the one that spams spiders?

Fuck that guy and fuck Rag Mega if you have shit DPS/are Lilith.

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>>165833958
I don't know, maybe I've gone double-layered autism and found a way to subconsciously find safe spots in one attack while not in another?
All I can tell you is that that's the attack I find easiest to avoid, and it's almost always by standing still, which I normally am when he changes attacks since I only go for Hush if I have a decent ranged attack.

>Egg, among other people, still doesn't know you can use an item before SUCCing it, getting two instant uses out of it rather than just one

>>165834812
>egg
>has like 4000 isaac videos
>still shit at it
w h a t

>>165833614
Big Horn is really easy, Mega Rag annoys me more.

>>165835508
At least Mega Rag doesn't have a few billions HP.

I wish Antibirth was ported to Afterbirth+.
I enjoy it improving an already great game, but it would be great if it fixed the issues of both DLCs, because despite having some really shitty things about them they have some fun stuff (like the robot spider).

Does afterbirth+ fuck up your save like afterbirth did when it came out?

I still haven't unlocked all the items or beaten mega satan so I don't know if it's worth it.

Although I don't know how one day my save just seemed fuck up and the post it didn't work but I already unlocked the keeper and like fuck I'm resetting my save to do that shit again.

>>165837080
If the game thinks you cheated when getting the mark (translation: when the game feels like it), it'll remove it.
So yes, it does that.

>>165833614

Big Horns problem isn't difficulty, it's that he's boring as fuck to fight and takes forever if you don't have a bomb surplus. Compare him to little horn, a fast and fun fight.

>Metronome into White Pony
>riding the pony
>can't fly
Edmund will defend this.

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Um excuse me what the fuck.

this is the second time in 2 weeks when I get godhead in an item room in greedier mode.

I have seen this item a maximum of 3 times before afterbirth +, now Im close to doubling that number.

What the hell is going on?

>>165840490
desire sensor in full effect

>>165841803
What's that?

>>165842336
a mechanic that makes items more or less rarer depending on how much you need them

>>165829012
Good taste in comics.

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>>165842497
Yeah but how the hell can you get godhead in an item room?

Also this is just getting ridiculous at this point.

>>165842802
Godhead is in the Greed mode Gold room pool.

>Brim
>20/20
>triple shot
>quad shot
>godhead
>sacred heart
>rubber cement
>spoon bender
>cricket's head
feels good man

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>Perthro'd a Robobaby 2.0 into Daddy Longlegs

>>165771626
>play greedier mode
>finally get a good run some spawns are bullshit and I reset if I can't open the first treasure room
>beat mega greed
>there's a second phase full of EXPLOSIONS

Someone should tell edmund this is bullshit, both bosses have way too much hp.

>>165844961
Ultra Greedier (yes that's his name) is overall easier than Ultra Greed once you figure out his pattern.

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>i am error room in corpse II
delet this

>>165845067
Oh yes, I didn't have much trouble with it, but every fight takes fucking forever. The new bosses have way too much hp in my opinion.

>>165845470
They actually don't have much HP.
Had you fought Ultra Greed and Greedier with identical setup by 50% less damage, it would have taken just as long because they have damage reduction.

>>165845545
Oh, then I guess I was complaining about damage reduction, and not how much health they have.

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>>165845216
>beam of light takes me to sheol?
>find an i am error room again using the red key
>take the trapdoor, spawn at basement 1 but game crashes
>try to use red key, game crashes
>get to the boss without using the red key, it's monstro
>beat him, a chest doesn't appear
quality mod

>>165845545
>>165845470
>>165846410

the trick is to stack attack speed reduction. shit like toothpicks + squeezy with a side of cancer and bosses will melt like butter.

>>165847321
It's been forever since I last even saw Cancer, I want my favorite trinket back.

>>165847454
What, you mean you DON'T want 5 different trinkets that are pretty much the same?

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Game I dont even understand.

What are you doing with your life game? This is getting ridiculous.

>>165784891
But im playing it anon slowly tho because im playing furi at the same time

I just went to fight hush as blue baby, but after killing the first form, the second form never appeared and it counted as a win against hush

I'll take it

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So everyones going to be talking about CotN next week when amplified comes out right?

>>165851565
Maybe.

>>165819154
What are u playing anon?

>>165851565
Probably not, as Isaac is more popular and the DLC will still be relevant by then.
But I hope someone makes a mod that turns the shitty bat OC character into Dracula.

>>165851565
Sorry I don't play rhythm games

NT is some fucking dumb trial and error bullshit

>finally make it past lil hunter
>clearing the lab level pretty fine
>suddenly a random barely noticable level prop just rapid fires 6 shots at my back and kills me
Nice fucking """""""""game"""""""""

>>165852402
It's a shit game desu.

>>165852402
Get better guns
Learn which guns are worth keeping and which are not, according to your character/mutations/playstyle

>>165852402
>something suddenly pops out of the ground next to you
>"gee i wonder if i can lick it!"
git gud

>>165852731
I had a heavy slugger and a hyper rifle. The problem wasn't that I wasn't dealing enough damage, the problem was that a completely inconspicuous level prop is actually a fucking rapid firing death turret that ends your run immediately unless you already know what it was before it killed you.

>>165853042
It has a long delay before it starts shooting and has pretty much no HP.
It was entirely your fault.

>>165853042
Then it's basically what >>165852760 said
Next time shoot at everything that moves until it stops moving. And also at most things that don't move.

>>165851927
There are so many custom skins made for the game im sure someone will

>second deal with the devil is Mom's Knife
>the following item room has a reroll thing
>reroll once, Lil's Brimstone shows up
Gotta love those rare occasions where the game just says "please fuck me over".

IDEAS TIME

after beating sheol and the cathedral 4 times, a second floor unlocks for them, with new bosses. you need to beat sheol and cathedral 5 times to unlock the polaroid and the negative, so this makes that 5th unlocking run extra special and challenging.

Nematoma (sheol boss)

phase 1 - 100 hp - large, diseased fat sack; charges the player and is easy.

Two attacks:

1. if distant, stops and fires a monstro shot

2. if close, stops and fires a black tentacle, leaving slowing creep in the same direction.

phase 2 - 400 hp - Nematoma erupts from the corpse, it is a VERY long, black/brown worm; it can only take damage from it's head or it's tail.

it has three attacks:

1. jumps out of the ground attempting to ram the player, then burrows back in, however due to it's length the arch of it's body will remain above ground creating a damaging barrier with it's body. It will jump 3 more times, creating 3 more barriers, for a total of 4 jumps. After the 4th jump, the arches will expire starting with the oldest, the tail leaves an x-lax creep as it does so.

2. Nematoma will stick both it's head and it's tail out of the ground, a ggood distance away from each other. either the tail or the head will be vulnerable, the other will not take damage. The head fires a monstro barrage at the player, the tail fires several poop shots randomly, leaving x-lax creep where they land. After this attack, if it performs attack 1, it will jump randomly from either the head or tail position.

3. Nematoma bursts from the wall, homing slightly towards the player, up to 90 degrees, and creating a large body barrier. When it hits a wall,the body trail will start to expire, it's tail leaving an x-lax trail.

>>165853216
>>165853235
nah

>>165853365

phase 3 - 200 hp each - Nematoma splits in half; the two pieces are smaller and weaker but notably faster. The two pieces are individual, with individual HP bars, and attack individually

three attacks:

1. Nematoma piece jumps out of the ground attempting to ram the player, then burrows back in, leaving a body barrier. Only jumps two times for 2 barriers, however moves much faster and the tail leaves red damaging creep.

2. Nematoma piece sticks it's head out of the ground. One of the pieces will always perform the monstro shot, the other will always perform the poop shots. After this attack, if it performs attack 1, it will always jump out of the same spot it was firing.

3. Nematoma piece erupts from the wall, homing towards the player and leaving a body barrier. After a moderate distance (about half room length) it will fall and burrow into the ground, at which point the body trail will expire with the tail leaving a damaging red creep.

anyone got any ideas what kind of attacks we would see from a boss like bigger horn

>>165853365
>>165853804
What does a bigass worm has to do with Sheol/Cathedral?

>>165851565
I can't play that game for shit. Even Bard is bonderline challenging and I can't get past the visual test.

>>165854307

it's a satanic worm

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>>165854307

did you ever read dante's inferno? ironic/unusual punishment has been a big theme of hell for a while. I'm thinking that's what I'm going for by infesting an isaac monster with one of these bastards.

>>165854416
The game is definitly hard. Bard is a tradional rougelike so you can stop, think and take your time. Not sure what you mean by visual test

>>165853365
>it can only take damage from it's head or it's tail.

There is a reason most people absolutely hate Scolex, you know.

>>165855369

if you could damage it's body it would be worthless as a boss as unlike every other worm variant it's body is outside of the ground for several seconds at a time.

the problem with scolex is that you can only damage it's tail, so you have to circle around it when it charges and pray for 1-2 damage procs as you flail bullets harmlessly at its ass. This guys head is vulnurable during the leaps, so it wouldn't be much different from fighting pin, other than the lack of the multi-body-part insta-gib from piercing shots.

>>165855196
>Not sure what you mean by visual test
The thing you have to do right at the beginning, the "calibration" thing.

>>165855151
Not sure mate, every boss in the last levels represent in some way the internal struggle Isaac is going through, a random worm doesn't really fit with this theme I think.

>>165856656

If we were to add a sheol 1 and a cathedral 1, generic bosses that fit the world theme would be more appropriate. Bosses representing isaac's problems are reserved for large, dramatic, guaranteed "end-game" encounters, which are always either ___ 2 or not numbered; anything found in an ___ 1 floor is inherently transitional.

A good example is womb 1, which is the only transitional numbered floor to appear after mom, the first "final" boss, and thus the last floor to draw from a pool of multiple generic but thematic bosses.

>>165857923
I believe the only reason Womb 1's boss is a random literally who is because Ed wasn't quite sure what he wanted to do with story at the time.

>>165858863

I think it has more to do with the fact that everything past the womb is non-numbered floors added as expansions over 7 years.

Remember that when the game came out, sheol didn't exist. Originally the depths was the end-game, and beating it unlocked the womb as secret post end-game content. Sheol came out later in an update, as semi-secret post post end-game content. Then we got cathedral, then the chest, then dark room, then blue womb, then the void, all as individually released, unnumbered, "end-game" content that were each the final boss at the time of their release.

To be quite honest the game as we have it now is half structured game, half "final" floors chained together over several years through DLC, to the point where satan and isaac can't even be considered end-game anymore as there's something like 3 different "final" bosses to fight after them, respectively. At this point sheol and cathedral could really benefit from a second floor with a boss pool, just to add some structure to what slowly transformed into the second half of the game.

>>165856410
Oh i gotcha you shouldnt need that for bard i would think because you dont have to play on beat

>>165853042
The game is filled with LOL xDDDD ur dead random shit like this unless you already know about it.

>>165853042
I don't know man, when something just pops out of the ground like that in a game like Nuclear Throne, shouldn't your first reaction be to hit it? It's your fault you died there.

>>165862293
Sounds like someone stood in front of the throne.

>>165862909
>50 hours in
>was talking to a friend who had already looped
>just got to the throne for the first time
>I had some great weapons and mutations
>ask friend what the boss does
>they just tell me to stand on the carpet and I will be fine
Still mad.

>>165863150
>he actually fell for it

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>>165863150
Positively flashyn.

>>165863469
That's funny, considering rogue is the worst character.
It's like you're so shit at life you motivate others by comparing your life to theirs.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>165863469
There is no way that I would be motivated by a character as bad as rogue. Melting is the best character all the way.

>>165863640
>>165863706
The joke is that you unlock her by sitting on it. She's the reward for meeting the game's plot goal.

>>165862909
Nah, watched a video beforehand. It's just another reason why the game is complete shit.

>>165863661
Now take Diplopia and go test it out on stuff.
>What happens when I take 2 Brimstones?
>2 Ludivico?
>2 (thing)
>What happens if I duplciate (spacebar) and then Void them both?

>>165863706
>Melting is the best character all the way
My nigga.

>>165863825
Does anyone even actually sit on the throne anymore? Why do that when you can go and beat the captain, or loop a few times with crown of luck/blood as melting where nothing can stop you?

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>>165863469

>get both holy mantle and fucking glowing hourglass in the chest
>literally free dead boy

EASY GAME

>>165864116
No. After you've gotten Plant B and Rogue, there's 0 reason to ever sit, except maybe screenshots.

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>>165863640
She's so bad, she had to be made into an enemy.

>>165863661

what the fuck did you do

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO

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>>165864308
ALL

ITEMS

>>165864593
>Doesn't have Pyromaniac or Host Hat

>>165842497
>>165841803
>bringing up Monster Hunter psychological torment mechanics
>in MY steak RNG god simulator
Get out.

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>>165864190
Melting B

>>165866407
You just gotta beat it, m4a1. Speed matter not.

>>165863706
>>165863974
How is Melting the best character? His ability nowhere near makes up for 2 HP.
My tier list is Y.V. > Crystal > Robot > Steroids > rest

>>165867562
>2 HP
>Getting hit
Literally just delete everything before it can even shoot.

i can't beat greedier as lost reeeee

>>165867562
>cleaning stages without firing a shot for 2 HP it's bad
What did I expect from a YV baby?

>>165867942
D4 into Gnawed Leaf

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dude money

nuclear whatever sucks

>>165864593

Whenever I break the shop I always end up getting missing no and having it ruin everything.

>>165867562
Steroids is best.

>>165867903
>>165867957
Even if you're a wizard who can avoid every enemy and bullet, wouldn't you want a character with higher DPS like Steroids or YV so you can run through the game faster?

>>165868543
Same

>>165867562
>Y.V. is the best character
Not like I expect a Y.V. baby to understand anything, but Melting passively gains additional rads from each enemy, has a Throne Butt which increases the size of his explosions, and an ultra which blows up any enemy with low health, including bosses. Add Scarier Face to that, or Crown of Luck/Blood and goodbye enemies.

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>>165868695
No thank you, I'd rather blow through stages by mashing M2, thank you.

HELP ME ROGUELITE

THIS GENERAL IS THE CLOSEST THING TO AN RPG GENERAL ASIDE FROM ROGUELIKE

I JUST PLAYED LISA THE PAINFUL, LISA THE JOYFUL, OFF, AND UNDERTALE

NOW I NEED MORE RPGS TO SATISFY MY THIRST

WHAT ARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS?!?!?!?

>>165869046
Try /indie/.
And the Epic Battle Fantasy series is alright.
Unless you wanted more RPG Maker games.
Then go play the first chapter of Lisa the Pointless.

>roguelikes
>rpgs

I haven't played any of those games

>>165869046
Well, there's a Lisa fangame called Lisa the Pointless or something, but I haven't played it so I don't know if it's good, or if it's even finished yet.

>>165869046
Dungeon of the Endless has a lot of RPG elements, but I doubt that's what you're looking for.
Try HOME, the only decent fangame for OFF.

>>165869046
Try Enter the Gungeon

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>>165869776
Wait, they're bringing classic Isaac over to the switch and not just Rebirth/Afterbirth?

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>>165869401

Everyone should try EtG. Best gaem.

>>165870498

he's practicing development for new hardware. remember edmund didn't make rebirth, nicalis did; if he's going to fool around with the switch it's easiest for him to do it with code he knows.

>>165870498

is...is that Ryan Reynolds...?

>It took them THIS long to fix the blank rune/kidney stone bug
>ADDERLINE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ADRENALINE
Who the FUCK typos THAT hard?

>>165869046

Citizens of Earth

Undertale Red

I'm going to program my own rogue-like. Give me some item ideas.

>>165870996
>Undertale Red
Opinion discarded.

>>165871012
A use item that makes ETG good

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They replaced Hush with Bluebaby
>They replaced Hush with Bluebaby
They replaced Hush with Bluebaby
>They replaced Hush with Bluebaby
They replaced Hush with Bluebaby
>They replaced Hush with Bluebaby

I will never understand the boundless idiocy that is Nicalis

>>165870670
convict best

>>165870870
yes. You've never seen Harold and Kumar?

>>165871241

don't worry its all part of the new ARG.

>>165871241

what? you mean phase 1? or should I be going to replay hush right now?

>>165871247
The only best thing she can qualify is in the waifu game and even in that the huntress still bear her by a thousand mile

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Items you always thought were shit until you realized they weren't

>>165869046
You still there Anon? Go on Kongregate or something and play Epic Battle Fantasy 1 and 2. 3 takes a lot more time because tons and tons of shit. Buy 4 on Steam for the ultimate challenges.

>>165872357
>Buy 4 on Steam
Just get it on the current humble bundle, plenty of other good stuff in it too for once.

>>165872076
Pic unrelated?

>>165872357
>Kongregate
Also, play Sonny 1 and 2, those are great RPG, I've heard the third is in the making but only on ios

>>165872495
That works too, I guess.

>>165872076
See this edit I made back when /boig/ existed: >>165792530

>>165872526

>infinite bombs at the cost of 1/2 heart each
>multiple items that make it free or drastically reduce the cost
>instantaneous explosion allows you to quickly blow open doors to rush through shitty rooms

get creative faggot

>>165772228
What's Antibirth's best music, and why is it SHAKA SHAKA DING DING?

Are antibirth and afterbirth+ compatible or will that just brick your game having both installed?

>>165873827
You can have both installed but antibirth is separate from AB+

>>165871889
I'd been told by a few people that Hush had been swapped with actual Bluebaby for no reason, but that's apparently bullshit.

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d-did edmund do something?

>>165872076
Stitches in Antibirth, like holy shit.
>Think it's pretty trash first run I find it, had D6 at the time
>Get it on a Maggy run
>Realization