/twg/ - Total War General

>>165734840
pls respond

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>no history tw game for several years
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH /TWG/

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THE AIR WAS FILLED WITH SMOKE AND BLOOD

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I just sacked and captured this little place

New BOTET update when.

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>>165735516
Just need to change one little thing

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>>165735516
>settling in Italy
LMAOing at your life desu senpai

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>>165735558
Ahhhh, much better

>>165735596
>not wanting to live in the eternal city

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>>165735605
oh and one more thing
gotta integrate, y'know

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>>165735636
>wanting to be surrounded by a sea of barbars and nomads

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>rome

>>165735486
I love you

>>165735676
but anon, i AM the barbar

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>>165735723
which is why you should conquer some place far away from your fellows and become civilized

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rest in piss

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>165735795
What better place than the heart of classical civilization?
What better place to spring forth to "liberate and civilize" the world?

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>>165735826
in all seriousness I find migrating to the middle east pretty fun, since you normally don't get to fight sandpeople as barbars at all, my Saxon campaign in which I moved to Caucasus was really fun

>Want to play Empire/Napoopan and bayonet shit
>Empire is buggy as shit, braindead AI
>Napoopan has horrible ear rape noise bug
>No bayonets in FOTS

Being a bayonet fan is suffering.

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>>165735910
modded empire is decent desu

>>165735910
There's a mod to add bayonets for FOTS
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?538081-Bayonets

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so lads do i go take africa for myself or do i help my (only) ally syracuse take it by sacking and raiding?

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>Daimyo cut off behind enemy lines and surrounded
>fights off Hattori army with 2000 more men
>my turn comes
>Enemy ninja detected!
>whatever
>can't move my Daimyo to my navy waiting at the coast to escape
>can't move him anywhere
>what the fuck?
>notice enemy ninja inside my Daimyo
>can't do anything
>can't even take my own 6 star ninja out just to kill him

WHAT DO

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So it's nearing the end of turn one for me, and I spent all my money on mercs to crush the quadians and the caledoneans, and now I'm wondering what to do next. Gonna try to hold every scrap of roman clay, but where should I send my spain/africa armies? Should I try a similar strategy next turn with the alamans and marcomans with the money I'll get from the church demolition?

I dont want to meagerly defend, I want to try to eliminate as many enemies as possible as fast as possible. Any tips?

>>165737163
>date
lmao eat poo

>>165735605
>Changing Roma to Rome
Disgusting english-speaking pig

>>165737225
>Should I try a similar strategy next turn with the alamans and marcomans with the money I'll get from the church demolition?
yes, destroy both of them, also finish of ebdanians and picts too

>>165737227
anon pls

>>165737225
Africa is surprisingly peaceful, and the ERE should be strong enough to hold the eastern border for you. Just focus on your northern borders for now, trying to catch hordes before they break through to your lands and start raiding.

Britain is the raping ground of Europe, so expect it to fall fairly quickly, despite your best efforts. Holding the German border is more important than sending spare legions up to bully Celts.

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>>165737446

>>165737163
How do you even get behind enemy lines without capturing castles in S2? The terrain between settlements is always a corridor, two corridors on both sides of mountains when it's really wide

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>>165737479

>>165737446
nice

>>165737479
german/10

>>165737527
absolutely disgusting

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>>165737527
how do I make these into one image for easy posting?

>>165737225
>I dont want to meagerly defend, I want to try to eliminate as many enemies as possible as fast as possible.

godspeed anon - Fortuna audaces iuvat

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Someone tell me what the fuck is going on here

>>165737489
I originally took them, but on my way out they took them right back with full stacks.

I would just reload a save, but on my last turn I got a heroic victory on the Northeastern Hojo province that I'm not sure I can duplicate.

>>165737705
Huh. I didn't know Burning Man was held that far back in history.

>>165737850
Back in the good ol days it was an actual man

>FOTS has spear levy
>but now bow levy
Pretty bullshit, Bow Kachi are expensive as fuck.
I'd use time warp but it clogs up the UI so much with all the extra units that aren't always necessary or are sometimes worse than the FOTS counterpart. eg Yari Ashigaru. iirc they were the same price as spear levy but shittier in every way. Spear wall isn't exactly useful when almost every enemy has a rifle

>>165738246
That's the point, anon. Kyudo and kyujutsu became skills that only the most dedicated practitioners kept alive. There are no yumi levy because there weren't enough bows or people that knew how to use them.

>>165738624
shied

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>>165738246
who needs bows when you can recruit yari ki with 75 charge bonus?

How do I design an anti-horsefucker army?

>>165739056
Who are you playing as in which game?

>>165739056
What game are you playing/what faction are you/what strain of horsefuckery are you up against?

>>165739089
Visigoths
>>165739101
Attila, Visigoths, Huns

>>165739056
use spearmen and defend bridges

>>165739056

For Attila? Heavy spear units with good missle block chance

Let the horsefuckers waste their arrows on you and then they'll charge sooner or later

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modern army BTFO

>>165739128
Germanic spearmasters, elite germanic archers (flaming shot), noble germanic cavalry, one raider/vanguard deployable cav to go kill the hunnic large onagers, some sort of melee inf for the uars, and a large onager of your own to force them to come to you. Utilize the range advantage of the elite archers and focus fire their bow cav. Protect your archers with your spears, be sure to put them in spear wall or turn off fire at will to make sure they brace vs hun cav. Try to find somewhere to hide a cav unit so that you can save your army from the large onagers (armstrong guns) that hun doomstacks always bring

>>165739197
t. crassus

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So I've just finished successfully defending Camulodunun and now I've got 37k in the bank and a lot more enemies to kill, but I'm gonna sleep now because it's almost 4:00AM and I've lost control of my life.

I shall update when I next play. Wish me luck /twg/

>>165739330
>BTFO
>Pyrrhic victory
Oh I am laffin

Why didn't the samurai all just wear bulletproof armor?

>>165739669
But anon what about the canons?

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>>165739669
>samurai
>having access to armour thick enough to stop 19th century firearms

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I fucking love light peltasts

>>165739669
If only the Samurai used superior Japanese katakana's.

Then they could have cut the bullets in half and wouldn't have to worry about armor!

>>165739669
>he has so little fate in his fighting skill he would rather dishonour himself wearing protection against ranged warfare

kommit your sudoku my friend

>>165739669
Samurai are shitters who got beat up by drunk Portuguese seamen.

>>165740147
Pretty sure they weren't in conflict with the portuguese

>>165740273
I'm talking about one incident that happened once, when some Portuguese got up to no good in a bad neighborhood and the Samurai didn't much enjoy it.

>start a fots campaign
>browse through factions
>check sendai
>faction bonus: "Putting your pillow in the freezer is more efficient than flipping it over to get the cool side."

What the fuck?

>>165740636
what?

>>165737225
Roma Invicta
Kill em fast because each one that falls will have another ready to take up it's fight

>>165739790
Those icons look a lot better than the originals

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>>165740698
I'm as confused as you are. Sorry for the awful resolution and tiny text but that's how it appears in-game.

>>165740858
I unironically prefer vanilla unit cards to the ones from any and all r2 mods. I have no idea why everyone hated them so much

>western nations in FotS are tied to your faction, with the US reserved for Imperials and France for the Shogunate

Does this mean I can pick an Imperial faction, switch allegiance, and get a French port?

>>165741135
possibly, but you will take a large honour hit, -1 honour to stitch to shogunate and -1 more to switch back

which is a shame because french unit and ship are the best

>>165740964
I finished my first Shogun 2 playthrough yesterday, what do the katanas symbolize?

>>165741212
Edo and Kyoto, the city of the Shogun and the Emperor respectively.

>>165741212
The sword is the soul of the samurai

Your favorite mods for Attila? Radious is shit.

>>165741321
Ok ty. Don't know much Jap history besides Oda.

>>165740964
kek, what the actual fuck?
That never happened to me but whatever you're doing, keep doing it!

>>165741469

atleast try it before you spout shit like "radious is shit"

its not half as bad as everyone here is making it out to be, you dont get the most popular mod EVER by being bad.

>>165741782

>you dont get the most popular mod EVER by being bad

You do though.

>>165741782
I've played 60 hours with Radious. I don't really like it. I'm wondering if there's any better ones. There's a lot more good mods for any other TW game.

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>Bought Warhammer during winter sale
>having fun apart from having to deal with the massive Wood Elf Empire in every campaign
>Battles play smooth even with "high" graphical settings
>Mfw every loading screen takes 2-3 minutes for some reason

At least it gives me a reason to get up and do a little exercise before and after every battle.

>>165741901
>every loading screen takes 2-3 minutes for some reason
Get a SSD, very much worth it!

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this finna look like its gonna be real fun

>>165741901

Get the no wood elf confederation mod, they're gonna fix it in the next patch but that's a bit off. And as it is now the wood elves are basically end times 2.0 with how they expand.

Also as the other anon said, a ssd will help you out with the loading times. I went from 2 minutes to 30 ish seconds with an ssd.

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>>165742258
ayooo

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>>165741782

ahhh warhammer.....the eternal total war game...

>>165740964
Are you playing with some mods?

>>165742304

>as it is now the wood elves are basically end times 2.0 with how they expand.

tbqh I kinda enjoy it.

The Chaos invasion isn't nearly threatening enough, hell in basically all Empire and Vampire campaigns it's entirely possible to have 4 stacks sitting in ambush stance by Praag by the point it spawns and blow them all the fuck out with no effort.

Ironically the Chaos invasion is only actually scary when you're playing as Chaos yourself.

>>165742552
Warhammer is a piece of shit game made by kikes as the ultimate cash cow combo and is played and funded by retards

>>165742636
wew

>>165742636
>funded by retards
guilty!

>>165741782
It's pretty shit if you want some challenge. It's popular because of casuals.

>>165742636
That repressed anger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgCo_ewGktA

What mods do I get for Attila for maximum Attila horsefucking?

FOTE?

>>165742636
>funded by retards
b-but I bought it too

>>165742636
>warhammer franchise funded by retards

who'd have thought a monty python/grimdark tongue in cheek fantasy setting would attract such support.

Are there any good campaign AI mods for FOTS?
Getting spammed by fullstacks and being constantly declared war on gets really exhausting.

Alright lads. Who should I play first in Attila.
I have no DLC.
I tried playing it once in the past, was Ostrogoths. I migrated to Africa. I fought like two non-settlement stomp battles on the way there.
One was a spectacular fight in a dark wood which I set alight as the Romans approached from every angle.
I lost that game when I formatted not long after.
Finally reinstalled and I'm at a loss of who to play.
I started up Sassanids first just to get my bearings, but they're TOO BIG.

So I want somebody small. Saxons or Franks?
Or just the Goths again? If I do the Goths I want to convert to paganism and set up in Ravenna. How do you convert religion again? It's 35% in province right? Does that mean I'll have to settle in pannonia or something to pick up the religion before moving on?

>>165742601
Yes, but only Master of Strategy, a mod that only affects the vanilla game. It looks like he somehow fucked up some FotS strings and just threw weird stuff in as easter eggs instead of leaving them broken. Works fine once I disable it.

>>165743002
None. Attila is pretty much perfect vanilla. The only things i'd change relate to climate change, ruin settlement, and fertility, and even then you'd need to play the game to know how they affect the world and how much you want them to be changed.

>>165743509
I usually just use a roll chart if i'm having difficulty deciding who to play. Saxons and Franks are both decent choices if you want to start out small.

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>>165743103
It's because of fantasy landsknechts. Best taste

>>165742636
>waaaah, I want to go back to my 20 colour-coded identical spearman units
>waaaah, stop introducing faction variety, new unit types and deep fantasy lore to muh exact, comprehensive restaging of historical events which is almost like getting a history degree!
>Bet you don't even know the date of the battle between New Dacia and Alemanni Bejeweled Nobles in the Pontus, you manbaby!

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>>165743641
>Western Roman Empire
>Re-emerges in Cyprus of all the places

>>165741135
I don't believe they are tied, they just show up later or earlier depending on which faction you are playing. If you wait long enough the other country should come (and you can get superior France)

>>165743764
The true heirs.


Also Cyprus unification soon hopefully

>>165743850
>Turkey getting a ton of attention from both big powers interested in it
>literal psychopath at the helm
>will give up cyprus after dumping as many thousands of kurds and turks there as they did

>>165743950
>thousands of kurds and turks there as they did

Kek, even the turkish cypriots got sick of them. They look at mainland turks as backwards peasants.

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Is there a way to permanently get rid of the Pope in M2 (specifically Stainless Steel)? I have taken over Rome and every turn assassinated the guy that gets elected but that's getting tedious pretty fast.

>>165744059
Every island looks at the mainland as somehow backwards, even fucking sardinia.

>>165744192
Well, sardinians have a good life to be honest. When corsicans do it however(towards France), it's unwarranted.

>>165744283
Cannonau is not enough to say they live a good life anon

>>165744283
>it's unwarranted.
Just like the UK towards mainland europe then

>>165744147
>wanting to get rid of the Pope
what are you, a muslim?

>>165744365
You know it is. It makes them live for a thousand years

>>165744147
>pope
>called Ivan

blyat :DDD

>>165744476
So that's why they were so sure punic tombs didn't have the remains of their ancestors inside them

>>165739669
Because the conflict wasn't like the movie The Last Samurai. It was the Shogunate, who had been illegally the defacto leader of Japan basically forever due to the support of the upper class (samurai), suddenly realizing the Emperor could muster more power than him through peasants with guns, and trying to do the same to hold onto his and the upper classes power.

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>The camel will not hear that roast goat is delicious
What did he mean by this?

>>165744934
>What did he mean by this?
ooga booga where da black wiminz at?

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Who /stabbing/ here?

>>165744283
Sure thing louis.

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>>165745383
there's nothing better

>>165744586
It's more that the disgrunteled tozama daimyo managed to gain more power(through modernizing) than the daimyo supporting the shogunate.


>>165745649
>Rebels have to steal from their own population to support their cause
>Most corsicans voted to stay with France because 90% of their jobs are reliant on Paris

Wew lad

>>165745892
I don't disagree that Corsicans are probably worthless cunts, just the bland implication that other island niggers are probably not entitled BUT OUR ISLAND NIGGERS SURE ARE is obnoxious and false.

All island niggers are the same.
t. Australian

>>165746165
>All island niggers are the same.

Exept grorious nippon of course

>No ability to buy the Attila soundtrack
>Only torrents are russian mysteries
Do I just crack open the music.pack?
What is available to do so?

>>165741901
dx12 makes the loading longer

>>165746373
2 nukes wasn't enough, Jap genocide will be the best part of my life/death

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HOW WOULD AIRCRAFT WORK IN TOTAL WAR?!?!

>>165746912
naval bombardment

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>>165746891
deleto thisu

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Any news today?

>>165743850
>cyprus unification

that will never happen without Turkish armed intervention, Cypriots despise the turks almost as much as they despise the EU. Friend out at ayia napa said the base gets 100s of letters a year to send on to the British government asking for annexation.

What is the best rpg wise total war? I like Total War, but to me it just becomes a chore like Civ.

Also, mods are okay too.

>Playing FotS
>Vassal suddenly declares war on me despite being very friendly all game.
>They attack unguarded nearby city
>Come close to killing the last of their units and winning the battle.
>Game crashes
Fuck this game

>>165746971
So Airforce units in the campaign would be like navy, but floating?

What about in battles?

>>165747023
Why don't we just genocide the turks?

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>This era truly is the Age of Charlemagne™

Really CA?

>>165747149
I'd assume they would be attached to towns/forts as airbases and have a range in which they can operate on the campaign map.
On the battle map they would just be call ins, bombers with targets, fighters with overwatch over an area/strafing orders

>>165747372
>I'd assume they would be attached to towns/forts as airbases and have a range in which they can operate on the campaign map.
That kinda sounds like Civ 5 mechanics. Which isn't bad.

How about if aircraft can only replenish when there's certain building in the region?

>>165747357
>All the nations of the known world have dedicated themselves to Total War, Rome too!
>There is only one way to defeat the Huns, Total War! Attila can't be bested otherwise!

Really CA?

>>165747162
it's a shame key islands like Cyprus, Malta and Crete never really work in total war games. They are always just backwaters and almost pointless,

>>165747583
Yeah civ 5 is a good example of how I pictured it.

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>>165747713

>Total War, Rome too!

>>165747162
Because there aint nobody else to live in Turkey.
The Greeks honestly don't deserve shit these days.
Give Constantinople to Bulgaria actually.
There could be no greater Balkan banter.

>>165747357
>Really CA?
Really CA?

>>165748024
No give it to the russians

>>165748094
Why on earth would you do such a thing?

>>165748094

Nice try Putin

Your country is a shithole and no amount of masturbating your big military cock on the world stage will make you the savior of the white race.

>>165748361
Cuz #1 Orthodox nation

>>165748361
To see what would happen

Kind of like putting a monkey in the driver seat of a truck

>>165748492

The French already tried that

It didn't go well.

>>165747357
>Charlemagne has become a legend by becoming Imperator Romanorum. Now you can continue to build on that legend through further gameplay and downloadble content.

>>165748538
I'm legitimately excited to pirate Andromeda.

>>165748530
14/07 never baguette

>>165748738
Do we need to post those webms again anon?

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>Vanilla fag
>Install DeI for the first time

Holy shit senpai

Any economy advice ? I'm always short on money

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>>165748738

>>165749254
>battle duration : 35 min

why are you doing this to yourself anon

>>165747023
pls anseer

>>165749521
Better than the 3 minute battles of Warhammer, I suppose.

>>165749592
It would be good if it was 35 minutes of actual battle


but we all know it's 5 minutes of giving orders and 30 minutes of watching units grind against each other

>>165749592
Warhammer is like 7-10. Shogun 2 is like 3.
And Shogun 2 is great besides.

>>165749704
No, if he does thing well, it's more like 5 minutes to position units, 5 minutes for the clash and then 5 minutes to free up a flank and "hammer and anvil" the enemy. Plus, in DeI, skirmishers are used much more and are much more important. I usually take 10 to 15 minutes in DeI, but that's against barbars. Heavy armored units actually require you to always look for the flank and are much tougher.

>>165749708
Not in my experience, battles in Warhammer and Shogun 2 are too short. And the skirmishers in both of those games (and a bit in Rome 2, mind) seem a tad overpowered.

>>165749873
>battles in Warhammer and Shogun 2 are too short
Not the other anon, but I think you're right.
I don't want 30+ minutes battles but S2 or WH battles taking longer than 5 minutes would be nice.
10-15 minutes would be pretty good desu

>>165749965
I can see what CA was thinking. They made the game faster so a dude can finish campaigns faster (and that's is why you see so many posts here about campaigns finishing, something that was a bit rarer when Rome 2 came out) and to make it more accessible.

There's nothing wrong with that and in Shogun 2 you could already see that being implemented. I'm not asking for one hour battles like that ridiculous mod for Rome Total War, but yeah, 15 to 20 minutes should be the standard for the Total War series. You can't even appreciate the neat touches they put into the graphics without slowing the game down.

What is better for Chaos Lords, the -5 Leadership to all enemies or the +whatever Melee attack for your army?

>>165749704
By what I gathered from the forum it looks like having a hammer is very important since flanking bonuses are a big thing in the combat mod, I can see that being a problem with starting as rome and fighting a 7k+ battle against superior numbers of disciplined troops. For a battle like that the battle time may be quite right.

>>165749254
>vanilla fag
>Rome 2
By god how fucking long did you last vanilla, I cant even imagine the game like it anymore, I pray for your sanity anon

>>165750487
The engagement itself, at least in my experience will kill 300 to 600 of your men and the same to the enemy. This is assuming you use skirmishers to wittle the enemy and make them concentrate on a spot. Then when you flank and start killing them alot, that's when you rout them and get to the huge numbers.

>>165750351
I opened up the game to check because of your lazy effort of asking a question.

What the fuck skills are you talking about? There are no such effects on their tree.

>>165750548
Vanilla Rome 2 is better than warhammer at this time in my opinion, though warhammer isn't complete because they still got dlc to shill and patches to push yet

>>165750628
He means post-battle effects I think.

>>165750628
Think hes talking about lord starter trait. There is a -2 or -3 enemy leadership and a chaos specific +5 melee attack for the whole army.

>>165750351
Melee attack, influence aura are the best for chaos lords from what I can recall

>>165750351
>>165750628
>>165751096

I'm pretty sure he's talking about one of those event choices where you have to choose a Chaos God

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>>165751230
No the first one is Khorne/Tzeentch which is melee attack/hero action cost, second is Nurgle/Slaanesh which is campaign movement/sacking loot.

First is no question, second kinda depends

>>165751534
Whoever made that image should be shot.

>>165749965
have you tried any of the "longer battles" mods for Warhammer. While they don't completely fix the issue I find they help immensely

>>165752097
>have you tried any of the "longer battles" mods for Warhammer.
Only tried one yet and that was a bit too extreme, should search for those mods again I guess.
Battles taking 5 minutes max just doesn't feel right

>>165747023
>that will never happen without Turkish armed intervention,


They are negotiating it right now though. It looked promising, but it has hit a wall for now.

>>165750130
I think the main problem with slowing down battles in warhammer is that some units would look pretty weird if they weren't killing things as quickly as they do. Big monsters/heroes only attack once every few seconds anyway, and if they just knock things over repeatedly it would become very noticeable.

>>165748094
>>165748024
>Not international demilitarized free city of Constantinople

Can't trust the turks and you can't trust the greeks.

>>165752285
only way it'd be possible is if Turkey joined the EU and Greece had a turnabout on policy. I can imagine some new territory settlements and possible winding down on UN border intervention but that's as far as it'll go.

>>165752618
Turkey are keen to remove the costly turkish garrison there so they are negotating. The thing is, they will only remove them if the greeks remove their troops.

AE when?

>>165753162

Its out already

>>165753217
Link please.

seriously, what game+mod for full rpg feeling? I mean, families and shit

>>165751070
What the fuck am I reading

>>165753309
tomorrow

>>165753162
>he doesn't know

>>165753407
>>165753489
Can I get a non-meme answer please.

>>165753531
Oh, it comes out this year m8. In September.

>>165753531
It'll be out in October.

>>165753661
You mean November.

>>165753393
Warhammer is good but it feels really lacking in content, I played it way less than any other main TW besides Napoleon I think
I am also talking about Rome 2 in its final state, which is actually fairly decent compared to what it was

>>165737705
The forest is PISSED.

>>165753661
>>165753742
Lads as it gets towards the end of the years holidays will start distracting the project. There is a lot to do you realize.
Probably looking at Early to mid 2018.

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Stop posting Warhammer.

>>165742375
Wait Radious is Czech? Just fucking nuke us pls

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>>165753917
Rome 2 launch was flawless

>>165754009
Get the fuck out of Carthage you fucking spear chuckers I wanted to fight them

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>>165753986
make me

>>165753917
>the several year old and patched game is better than the newest game with the least patches, DLC and updates
gee whiz

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>>165754006
Hussite War Wagon (Dismounted)

Does anyone have experience with the Lakhmids campaign? I really have no idea where to expand to, I want to be a good goy for the Sassanids for now, but they took the Ghassanids' province from under my nose before I could afford a strong enough army to take it myself.
Also the Himyarites declared war on me and I can't be aggressive towards them because I can only afford 1 army with my current economy.

What do?

The trading in Warhammer kinda sucks but damn this better trade mod basically turns the whole system into a money cheat, I'm drowning in cash as the Empire right now. Feels like I'm playing Dwarfs desu.

>>165754204
They're not going to re add the features they stripped out of campaign management in the updates for warhammer though, nor naval combat from what I hear
And I said currently, and noted that Rome 2 was finished and warhammer still had a way to go, keep up pal

>>165741782
It's popular because it appeals to casual normies who just got into TW and underages. There is no redeeming quality for that shitmod if you have any sense of taste whatsoever.

>>165754213
Hussite Crusaders(heretics)

>>165754376
>They're not going to re add the features they stripped out of campaign management in the updates for warhammer though,
really? where did you hear this?

>nor naval combat from what I hear
I heard about this.

>>165753917
The campaign feels massively dumbed down compared to other TW games. Only the Dwarfs have a research tree that isn't half-assed. Battles last literally five minutes. Paradox-level DLC jewing, actually even more pricey. Magic doesn't scale to unit size. Battle difficulty slider is still broken.

>>165754376
You're still comparing apples to oranges. Warhammer has features Rome 2 doesn't and the other way around.

>>165741901
There is a new mod called "defensive wood elves", it works better than the alternatives and really keeps them contained to Athel Loren.

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>>165741782
It makes upkeep be almost meaningless and in Shogun 2 (the only time I used radious), the unit balance was all over the place.

Does DX12 mode even improve the visuals in Wamhams? I took some screenshots of identical scenes in the game running with both modes and I really can't spot any difference.
The only difference is that I get about 10% less fps. (Which is odd though since in other games I get a good boost from DX12)

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>>165754298
I'd try to expand south. One army should be able to take Zafar and you shouldn't worry about garrisons since you get 3 fucking Kurdish Archers for your towns. Are you staying Christian or going Zoroastrian?

>>165754583
I mean, what features? Magic and such? Levels for the commanders and a bigger focus on them?

>>165754583
I'm comparing 2 total war games and i'm telling you that one I like less because I removes features I liked and preferred to have in game
Unless they actually randomly go against what they've been doing and add loads of new kingdom management shit in DLCs and updates, which I doubt since they much prefer faction packs and campaigns then my mind might change, but for now I feel warhammer is just inferior at a base level, even if it does get other things right and does them well

>>165754581
>Only the Dwarfs have a research tree that isn't half-assed.
I like the VC and Ork one. WE isn't that bad either.

>>165754753
So play R2 if you prefer it.

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Why haven't you made your own Radious tier snowflake units /twg/?

>>165754713
if you have an nvidia card dx12 mode kills your framerate

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>>165754753
I agree with you. I don't know how to really express it, but they seem to have focused more on "spectacular" battles than actually improving the game in the campaign map (where you spend more time). Sure, it looks cool when Minotaurs charge a formation, but man, the battle is over in 5 minutes, it's not that great.

Global recruitment seems to have taken abit out of the strategy from the game.

>>165754843
Well, yeah (and that's why most of my screenshots are from that game), but the fear is that they try to make historical games more like Warhammer.

>>165754729
They already have 3 armies sitting outside of Zafar, so that really seems unsurmountable. I thought about converting to Zoroastrianism, but are there actually any pros/cons?

>>165754213
>>165754480
H-he didnt add this,r-right?

>>165754731
Quest battles, flying units, magic, items, fun, underground battles, LLs, heroes, invasion events, hordes.

>>165754937
I have a GTX1070, but for example in Battlefield 1 DX12 improves my fps.

>>165754843
Nah I'd rather play Shogun 2 or Attila because I think they're way better than Rome or Warhammer

>>165754961
I just dont feel much like i'm leading a kingdom through thick and thin, I'm just buying and sending armies about mostly
The combat is good, but it's just not all about combat for me

What causes you to lose household things for your generals in Attila? I'm losing a bunch of them every turn and I don't know why, no one is dying or anything.

>>165755092
well it doesn't in warhammer, I have a 1070 too and dx11 is superior

>>165755097
Oh besides removing formations as a toggled feature that units have
muh shield walls

>>165755090
>Quest battles

Those are set piece battles. They're fun and all, but come on, it's not a feature.

>Flying units

That don't exactly change anything, from my experience. Kinda like elephants.

>Magic

Well, yeah, I'll give you this one.

>Items

Attila.

>Underground maps

Just a different map, it's not a feature.

>Fun

Okay.

>Heroes

Present in R2 and other, you already had hero units in Shogun 2, but I admit that they are different in Warhammer, just not that different

>LL's

I don't know what this is, sorry. Care to explain?

>Invasion events

Present since Medieval 2.

>Hordes

Attila.

>>165755097
>tfw Rome 1, Shogun 2 and TWW are my fav total wars because I get same comfy feel from playing them.

They are pretty tight.

>>165755338
Flying units are incredibly powerful and they change things up quite a bit because they strike pretty much anywhere. Elephants were just shittier cavalry that nobody used.

>>165755338
Moving goal posts, the post.

Also flying units completely change how battles are fought since there is a force that can engage on 2 planes and make protecting units really difficult. Also can't be countered by a levy stick thrower for 300G

>>165754961
Nothing wrong with focusing on battles in a total war game since it is its first and foremost feature. I can see why you would dislike TWW if you favour the campaign map part of Total War though.

>>165755381
I prefer to raise my blood pressure with stress on attila, I go on modded Rome 2 as Greek colonial trade empires for comfy

>>165755559
I have no real arguments, the post

>>165754753
why don't you think they will add campaign mechanics in the later expansions?

>>165755338
We were comparing Rome 2 and TWW though.

>>165755559
Stop posting

>>165755471
Unless you screen them with ranged units

>>165755559
To be fair, most levy's can't counter anything unless you're talking about other levies. Most units cut through them straight. Also from my experience, the AI doesn't rely on the flying units that much to make them actually that important, ranged cavalry are much more of a bother.

>>165755658
Not him, but because people seem to enjoy Warhammer, CA shouldn't try to change things that much, unless you mean simplyfing it.

>>165755698
Oh, wait a bit.

>>165755637
Regenerating armor for a general as compared to a +1 zeal sword isn't much of an argument either. Peoplle complaining about no river crossing maps means underground maps is a feature as well.Heroes fighting rather than a +2 authority is better.

You just don't like Warhams so you fanboi the dumbest shit without complaining about the ACTUAL missing features from the game like siege defenses and settlement fights.

Is there any way to reassign banners without dropping the banner from the menu for a turn? I can't seem to move them around once they're assigned to a unit.

>>165755751
>not knowing about the levy freemen of spagetti lines and destruction

>>165755658
I could see them doing them in the other 2 game/expansions they do, but I don't intend to buy the other 2 games and their dlc to get the experience I want from just total war
Naval stuff they may add if they stitch the map together, but shit like bringing back food and more public order stuff, better taxation and just overall more kingdom management besides buying recruitment buildings or recruits and moving them places

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>Wind of Metal will never be good.

>>165755827
Double click I think.

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Rollin for a new campaign after 500 hours of Warhammer

>>165755751
The reason why Levy Freemen are so incredibly good is because they have javelins that they can throw at cav or in the backs of much more expensive heavy infantry and still do a lot of damage. Once their ammo is spent you can still sue them for absorbing charges or as a missile screen.

>>165755797
Anyone who thinks sieges are better now deserves to be lashed to a cross, it goes without saying
I still remember everyone pre release saying they definitely didn't fuck sieges and they were gonna be awesome
And God damn ain't they just fucking dogshit

>>165755978
They just need to make the buffs stronk as fuck. Also make the hounds last WAY longer and give searing doom a splash push effect to distrupt better.

>>165755751
>Not him, but because people seem to enjoy Warhammer, CA shouldn't try to change things that much, unless you mean simplyfing it.
no I mean changing it like adding the whole city to sieges. or making battles longer. adding in more over all campaign mechanics.

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>>165756068
>Lombards
nice

>>165756150
At least they work and at least big walled sieged actually fucking happen. They need to be more interesting though.

>>165756068
Please not shitty nocav Danes

>>165755949
Levy freemen are probably the most cost effective unit in the game, Barbar are usually spamming shitters in low budget MP matches

>>165756316
>They work
At the cost of being shit fights on a small amount of shitty little wall maps

>>165756324

>He thinks cavalry is a good idea

Laughing_Lindybeige.wav

>>165755954
>Naval stuff they may add
I remember them saying in an article that they wouldn't because of a licensing issue. Something about someone else using it. But I don't have the article right now and my memory is fuzzy so I could be talking out my ass on this.

Also
>but I don't intend to buy the other 2 games
I can understand this. but I'm too much of a bitch to not buy them. plus I find the first game fun

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>165754983
In that case I would bide my time, just being a good boy for the Sassanids and opportunistically grabbing whatever cities you can. Have you tired recolonizing Yathrib, the desolate province in your starting region?

Regarding Zoroastrianism and Eastern Christianity, the Eastern Christian religious buildings reduce unit upkeep in your regions, and well as reducing corruption. Zoroastrians give the same old bonus of sanitation and minimal public order bonus. The religion also changes what your elite endgame units are. The Christians get a neato melee infantry unit that is ridiculous in attack power(see the previous image) and a good anticav cavalry. The Zoroastrians get shock cav and a sword cavalry. Honestly the two units you get from the religions are a little redundant(the sword infantry can be replaced with Shotelai if you please, and the shock cav role can be filled by Camel Lancers) so it comes down to the building bonuses in my opinion.

>>165756316

>At least they work

Barely

The way they are now is so hilariously exploitable that half the factions never need to enter a city to take it if they bring enough artillery and ranged units

>>165756471
Still better than not working and not happening, but yeah they get boring.

>>165756518
He made a video about that?
Also is there actually a good reason why Danes don't have any cav in AoC? I guess it's hard to bring horses along you during longboat raids, but that can't be it.

>>165755027
Not that I'm aware.
As far as I am aware he's not done modding for a game that touches Hus' time period.

>>165737163
I guess wait until someone attacks your army and flee, causing them to move out of Homo ninja

>>165756607
Maybe I'll take a look at ERE and see if I can't snatch a city or two from them.
I already colonized Yathrib, but it's taking time to build it up. Less upkeep sounds neato though, so I guess I'll stay christian.

>>165756676
He made a video that said "cavalry is a stupid idea", then goes on to say that it's actually a good idea but it took a while to get there

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>>165756864
Don't forget that the Lakhmid bonus means you can replenish your army in pretty much just two turns from nothing, so heavy losses in taking an enemy city won't leave you vulnerable. This applies to the garrison units as well, meaning a small garrison will be fully replenished once it repels a costly attack.

The Lakhmids are still my favorite campaign that I did, and I recommend anyone who hasn't tried it to do so.

>>165756676
vikings did not really use horses for combat, they were more of a scouting and civilian mode of transport thing

>>165756991
People actually click on that?
I saw it pop up in my recommended feed and I blocked the image thumbnail to better ignore it.
With a title like that you know youtube is shoveling the lowest quality shit at you.

>>165757114
Oh, I didn't even consider that. I feel motivated to create my Lakhmid empire now, thanks for that. Did you use any gameplay mods?

Wew, Gelts quest battles are actually somewhat hard. Doesn't help that he is a complete joke of a LL either, idk why they don't patch these things.

>>165756624
>exploit

Now why would you make them even more boring? You can basically do the exact same ranged exploits in walled sieges in Attila. The trick is just not to do the exploits. The main difference between big walled siege fights in Attila and TWW is that in they don't fucking happen in Attila.

>>165757304
Because that would take up resources that could otherwise be used to pump out DLC.

Bretts WHEN?!

>>165757304
That's why you give him a Empire Captain. Gelt's ranged buff spell can be pretty devestating, but you need some good positioning and timing

>>165757210
>I blocked the image thumbnail to better ignore it.
you can do this on youtube? or did you physically block it.

>>165741782
I've tried it, it is fun at first but also just terrible.

It spawned as a "fix" to the shitty Rome 2 release, primarily the overthetop squalor mechanic which was granted, overthetop. But it went much beyond that and when R2 was patched and fixed and made into an average but solid TW title Radious didn't stop and simply ruined everythng by making it ridiculously easy in his idea of fixing what was apparently too hard but long since fixed, and also added a billion total fantasy units. Some people like that, some don't, but they're not even good unhistorical units, the balance is terrible and half the time the stats don't match up, showing great armour stats but visually wearing cloth, while a unit in mail has less armour stat, for example.

If you want a better vanilla experience just mix and match mods.

>>165744283

Corsica is a peculiar case, its a culture of their own that is kind of independent from everyone else while being subjugate to the strongest power around since forever, well at least prior to the roman era. They are a proud folk that wanted forever to run its own things but know for fact that it would pretty much get eaten up instantly by the nations around it so they play it carefully, it kind of make them angsty but if you respect them they'll respect you. And I mean genuine respect, not some condescending point of view that victimize them

>>165757304
Some are easy and some are bullshit difficult. The VC ones have to be generally the easiest ones since you can just deathball and spam Invocation of Nehek.
Vlad's battle with that ring was hard though.

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>>165757268
Nowadays I just use anything Sebidee puts out, usually good and not too unbalanced. When I played the Lakhmids I think the only mods I had were back when Fall of the Eagles had the option of just a reskin.

Good luck, anon. Spread the word of God, by the spear and mace if necessary.

>>165757489
What do you mean his ranged buff spell, I don't see somethink like that in the Lore of Metal. And what is the Captain for?

Also, do you guys reposition your artillery during a fight? I turns kinda useless once the lines have clashed, but I'm afraid to move it out to the sides.

>>165757471
Knowing CA the earliest would be February 23rd

>>165757691
Much appreciated.

>>165744934

He is calling you a stubborn imbecile(Camels are known to be stubborn as hell) who is too daft to accept some nixe deal aka a roasted goat.

But given the stupid AI I suppose they gave you some unreasonable offer that nobody in their right mind would ever propose if they want to keep their head on their shoulder.

>>165755978
Give them their credit it's authentic to the tabletop/

>>165757496
I used ublock.

>>165757587
I like they try crazier and crazier things with the new quest battles. Explodings squigs and that one fucking Vlad battle.


>>165757657
>What do you mean his ranged buff spell

I fucked up. That was a lore of fire spell.

>And what is the Captain for?

The captain is for actually fighting other lords. You use gelt for campaign buffs, which can make your troops pretty strong and will give a lot of options(since you have enough points to spare for every buff).

>>165757836
>not knowing that you c an literally do this in youtube without ublock

what did I expect from a lindyh8ter?

>>165757619
I use his stuff for Rome 2 and age of Charlemagne, his character template helped me learn modding too, and he doesn't seem full on autismo

>>165756068
Rolling for not Mercia

>>165757761

Wind of Metal was extremely situational on the tabletop but could absolutely fuck certain armies.

Wind of Metal is TW:WH isn't good for anything

>>165758452
The buffs are decent and that spell with the golden wolves can deal a fuckton of damage.

>>165758817
no they're not.

>Start a new Empire campaign
>Those orc tribes that used to like showing up early and rushing Grunburg never do
>Instead you've got a handful of beastmen that aren't even at war with you

Is this normal now? It seems a lot easier.

>>165758817
A unit of Goblins can in theory defeat a unit of Chosen but it still won't ever happen.
The same thing with Lore of Metal

>>165735497

Medieval III with England, France, Germany and Egypt will come out in 2018.

The rest of the factions are DLC though sorry about that.

> You will never get to defeat factions to play as them like in Medieval II ever again
> Trade gets even worse after Rome II
> Expansion packs featuring female Teutonic Knights and camel throwing trebuchets.
> Creative Assembly gets bought out Jewish Interactive completing its transformation and makes talking to the Pope a $20 DLC.
> FREE RICHARD THE LIONHEART PORTRAIT ART

>>165758817

>the buffs are decent

No, they aren't. I want this meme to die. The ONLY decent spell there is Transmutation of Lead. Everything else is utter shit.

If Plague of Rust was AoE, it would be great against WE and Empire. But it isn't, so fuck it.

>>165759462
I'd say it's a 2019 release at least and it won't be Medieval III. They've said it's not a time period they've done so it won't cover the main franchises Rome, Medieval, Shogun or Empire.

>>165758817

Gehenna's hounds is a vortex and thus shit by default.

The buffs are shit.

ToL is the only ok spell in the entire lore, and only because it's AoE is fuckhuge.

>>165759363
>not at war
>raid your province for 5 turns
>sack your settlements anyways
Beastmemes, not even once.

Disabling the Greenskins ability to spam confederate is fucking amazing. Fuck you Orc shitstains no more half of the badlands by turn 5 just by back to back confederating.

>>165759582

If that's the case it has to be the renaissance right? Don't think they'd count the late game of the Medieval games as covering that.

>>165759802

They literally just ran through the province and headed straight for the WE's.

Think they raided for maybe two turns?

I was tempted to take them out, but I didn't want to give the secessionists any more time than I had to.

I had no idea you could win an Empire long campaign before Archaeon even shows up, it was enough to destroy the stacks who show up before him.

>>165759832
Do you mean Woodelfs? Orcs are never a real threat in a Dwarf campaign.

>>165735372
Didnt visit /twg/ since wood elf release. Are there any new leaks or significant changes?

>>165760085

On a stack by stack basis yeah they aren't a threat. But the problem is 10 turns in I only had 5 settlements and a single stack. While the Greenskins some how managed between turns 3 and 11 confederate 4 different Orc factions and gained 6 new stacks, one of which was Wurrzag and his giant. I just can't do anything about that kind of volume early on. Especially when I was the only faction they were at war with.

Only the Empire and Dwarf AI should be allowed to confederate tbqhfam.

>>165760690

Grombrindal got a release date of January 19th.

Darren teased that Bretonnia has stuff that wasn't even available to them on TT.

That's it, nothing else.

>>165757981
>ublock
actually? how?

>>165759665
Vortex spells aren't really that shit anymore. Sun of Xereus can rip units apart, so can Orion's

Eternal Guard are absolute cancer.

550 gold for a silver shielded, anti-armor unit with 40 armour and 80 (Eighty) leadership is fucking dumb as shit.

They never break, outmatch all tier one units and trade well with literally anything. They need to be gutted.

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Greatswords are OP :^)

>>165761475

The only good one is Pit of Shades. I'm not going to dump 12+ winds on possibly hurting the enemy, when I can cast two FoD or Earth Blood and completely secure a battleline instead.

>>165759858
1400s through 1600s would be a perfect time to do that.

Or they can pull a Farcry and give us legions of stick spearmen and rock throwers back 25,000 years ago

>>165761914
They are pretty squishy desu. I have never had any problems wrecking them.

>>165762014

The first campaign I played was Empire, and I was thrilled as fuck to get Greatswords. I thought their 95 Armour meant they were invincible. I was unpleasantly surprised to see how squishy they were.

They're a great unit against Orcs and Dwarves. Shame that by the time I can mass produce them, I'm just crushing Varg and the like.

>>165762014
Except a mid-tier Welf melee unit can defeat them.

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>>165761058
Thank you. Have a qt

>>165762221

Compare them to the 400 gold Empire Shielded spearmen.

For 150 gold extra, you get 10 more armor, more speed, 20 more leadership, more melee attack and defence, silver shields as opposed to bronze, and shitloads of AP damage.

It's fucking absurd how cost efficient they are.

>>165762393
Ok, post it whenever you're ready.

>>165761914
WElfs are fucked. Even worse in SFO right no.

Good, cheap infantry core. Fast big guy killers, basic archers are really good and all trees are just fucking tanks. And flying goon squads. And a campaign ruining AI to boot.

JUST....

>>165762221
B-B-BUT MUH LEGOLAS

MU-MU-MUH ELVES

>>165762497
Faggot

>Playing Empire as Volkmar
>Take all the Flagellant upgrades
>Flagellants now have 60+ weapon strength and a charge rating of 60, 50% missile resistance and damn near permanent 22% ward resistance from prayers
>my entire armies are now made of mad flagellants with a charge rating more commonly associated with heavy cav

what have I done

>>165762626
>o-oh no, I liked something but somebody questioned it
>I can't be wrong in public or they'll all go back to calling me a loser again
>I'll just call him a faggot, that'll show everyone that I'm a winner

>>165762393
Why did you stop posting on /int/?

>>165762629
Doomed the Empire to Slaanesh.

>>165762626
>chicken legs
no anon, you're the faggot.

>>165762626
She might have an okay body but hiding the face is a really bad sign.
And while I don't mind hair that long I'd say it's still kinda niche. And hair fetishism is stupid. It looks like a shampoo ad.

>>165762824

>Slaanesh
>not Khorne

Flagellants are the opposite of Slaanesh, anon. At it's core, Slaanesh is selfishness incarnate. It rewards you for doing what YOU want to do, above all else. Flagellants cast aside their own selves and serve the god's purpose, which is exactly what Khorne likes.

>>165762803
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>>165762991
Self harm is one of the things that Slaanesh loves. Some of those flagellants will start to enjoy it and start falling deeper down the rabbit hole.

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>>165762790

>>165762991
Slaanesh is about experience. Flagellants whip themselves and seek near-death because they can't feel any contact with their god normally, so they seek that sensation above all else.
Slaanesh as fuck.
Chaos gods are stupid and most of their emotional tenents can be interpreted to belong to every god simultaneously