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>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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>>165713047
im the guy with the fucked up skills
i finished the normal game, when i restart in cruel can i switch back to normal for some stuff, like this labirinth thing?
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>>165715263
>when i restart in cruel can i switch back to normal for some stuff
Yes
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>>165715263
Yes, you can freely move between difficulties once completed. From the waypoint map screen (default key 'u') the difficulties are separated by tabs at the top.

Also don't stress about fucking up a characters skills so early into your level. After a few play-throughs you'll be able to complete normal in 1.5-2 hours. It takes about 10 hours to get to Act 4 Merci. Far less if you dont bother with side quests or trading.
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what are some actual fun builds in this game, have been trying to get into the game every build is not fun
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>>165715263
also, should i spent my points in some other stats than intelligence?
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>>165715686
depends on what you consider fun, obviously
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Does the map being like this make it worth any more? None on poe.trade
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>>165715686

Builds don't generally come into their own until you're around lvl 70 and have the right gear. Builds that I found fun but my not be top tier viable (fast red map clears, ubers etc) are

-Cyclone builds with Vaal Cyclone
-CoC builds
-Mjolner builds
-Combination of the above

Basically anything that spews colour and shakes the screen constantly.
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are summoning builds viable in this game? something like the d2 necro
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>>165715750
You don't "spend" points on main stats (str/dex/int), they're just bridging stats been main keystones you need.
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>>165716040
srs support
ye
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how does this CI thing even work?
i dont have it yet, but i just died without my shield going away
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>>165716507
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Chaos_damage
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Reminder that if you made a BF build this league you are literally worthless and your opinion means nothing
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>>165716507
>died without shield going away
welcome to chaos damage, nigga
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>>165717439
aw its so cute
the lil kid is jealous
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>>165717439
whats bf?
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>>165717656
buttfucking
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can anyone link a good srs build?
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when is the new league
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>>165715920
Unique items being corrupted and un ID dont matter
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>>165717439

reminder if you are playing

>an es build
>a vp build
>a summoner
>anything using poison or other dd mechanics
>anything using damage conversion

you are LITERALLY playing a reddit build and your opinion means nothing
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>>165718659
that is 95% of the builds in PoE right now you fucking idiot
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>>165718749

and you'r point?
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>>165719020
my point is you sound like a butthurt hipster that doesnt like meta builds because they are "cheesy" or some shit
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>>165718659
When will Path of ES nodes end?
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HOP IN, NIGGA
WE HEADIN' FOR ORIATH

GET YOUR FOOL AS IN HERE
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3.0 when?
Defenses not being worthless when?
Vaal pact gone when?
Lifeleech being harder to get when?
New skills when?
Melee not being shit when?
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Can someone tell me, how do you go about completing the atlas? I have plenty of keys from 2 guardians now but I can't get enough t13-14 maps to progress through the lower half. Am I supposed to just trade for them? Is it better to run t14/15 maps for those keys or is it better with t12 etc?

Also I'm burning through my chaos by running the bloodline mod, is that retarded?
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>>165718659
>remind if you are playing anything useful you are reddit
>you should be playing something crippled with fucked up defenses and not taking advantage of double dipping damage like me to be considered good
>clearing t16 is bad
>struggling on t10 is good
>u dumb me smart
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>>165719832
You nerds always find something to cry about
Just play the fucking game
Or don't
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>>165719832
I dont think ggg even see how bad those things are right now
a fix for that will not come anytime soon
at least not a good fix
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>>165719839
>bloodline mod
Yeah you're dumb
Those come free on maps

Look up a map guide YT video or something
Generaltsochicken has a good one and he has a nice soothing voice for the 20 minutes you'll be listening to it
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>>165718749
>>165718659
Guys, I'm pretty sure he's joking.
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any chance someone wants to sell me 13 or so viridian grand spectrums on standard for 8ex?
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>>165720067
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>>165718659
>tfw playing LL toxic spirits with double aggressive stone golems
must suck being poor
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>>165720067
dumb anime poster

>>165720262
dumb cat poster
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What is a build I can play with one hand?
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>>165720591
Flicker strike
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>>165720591
and I thought me fapping on one monitor and afking/trading players on the other was my ideal playstyle

>>165720683
picked up
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>>165720871
>picked up
What did he mean by this?
No really, what did he mean when he said this?
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>>165720591
any build if your mouse have enough buttons
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>>165720943
my next build
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>>165720591
disgusting image delete this immediately or else
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So I've been playing crit fb totem inquisitor
2x 5linked a Cloak of Flame, but as I'm going into higher maps I need some more mitigation and a better chest.
A Lightning Coil seems really good for phys mitigation except I cant rol 5b1r on a armour/evasion chestpiece.
What do /poeg/ ?

im lvl 80, life based, busy crafting a 5l vaal regalia, dunno when I'll switch to CI, poor atm
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>>165722139
>life based
>level 80
Dunno what to tell you
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ok I see why people buy act 4 carries now

this shit is cancer 3 levels below trying to rush
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>>165722926
early july
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>>165722926
I usually overlevel Dried Lake by 2 levels then not hit anything on my way until a2 of next difficulty.
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>>165714845
I hate this stupid discord meme
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>>165722139
you can get a 500 ES 5L for 15c. idk wtf youre trying to do
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>>165537463
>free
>>165538648
>FREE
>>165551417
>free
>>165573617
>free
>>165589108
>free
>>165610082
>free
>>165611104
>FREE
>>165638657
>FREE
>>165682391
>free
>>165704463
>FREE
>>165704475
>free
>>165705305
>FREE
>>165708418
>FREE
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Euthanasia pills should be included in the supporter packs tbqh
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I have cut ties with my own family so I can focus on playing PoE 365 days a year

did I make the right decision?
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>>165722926
I was level 62 when i hit merci lakes and was about 4-5 levels behind all of merci. Maybe I'm missing something but you pretty much just kill stuff before it can hurt you and go fast.
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>>165725420

Based freetard
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>tfw you're a talentless retard and this guy comes along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLchpEhjG68
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"talent" is the biggest meme ever, just pick something up and practice long enough and you'll become good at it
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>>165727718
>playing poe with sound
I don't even know if he's playing the game soundtrack or not.
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>>165718659
>if you play a good build you're reddit
what did he mean by this
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>>165728547
fuck no

most of the soundtrack is extremely generic fantasy mmo with almost nothing memorable on it

that medley is a lot more interesting to listen to
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>>165727718
>>165728547
>>165728721

Official /poeg/ OST thread lads. I'll kick it off in no particular order:

- Bastion
- Hotline Miami
- Hotline Miami: Wrong Number (a fav)
- Shadow of the Colossus
- Red Dead Redemption
- Dark Souls I, 2, 3
- The Last of Us
- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
- Final Fantasy VII

What am I missing.
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>>165728469
I'll give you 1 million dollars if you can be the next Hendrix with 10k hours of practice
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First time playing and doing t11s, done one t12 last night. However, I cannot seem to finish the Hall of Grandmasters? map. The enemy characters seem retardedly strong after several "gates". Any tips?
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>>165729448
git gud
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>>165729448
block chance reduction gem
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>>165729289
Initial D Stage 1 and 5 OST

2hushit

this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn5qrq-TLXU
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>plebbit has a thread about favorite unique flavor text
>2 people post bino's
really made me think
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>>165730015
nys
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>>165729289

Chrono Trigger
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>>165730151

New York Sity?

wut?
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>>165730560
I think I've looked for a Chrono Trigger torrent before with little luck. Can't stream it on youtube because of potato internet.
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>>165729448
You need a specialized build for HoGM.
I use WI, with CWC-Scorching ray-fire pen-ele focus-reduced block chance-aoe (switch to conc for dyness).
The nasty fuckers are:
>level 100 LA guy: offscreen, he will oneshot you
>Dyness: spam WI on the destination of his lightning warp, save a vaal disc to help tank him
>Kriath: Offscreen him, very tanky but has the DPS to murder you
>mull_gubben: All his damage abilities are CWDT so just take out your CwC and hit him with the plain scorching ray
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>>165730972
Also worth noting that Pyre makes a better low-budget build while AoF+Emberwake+Taming is a better high-budget build.
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>>165729289
Lufia 2
Chrono Trigger
Unreal Tournament
Baldur's Gate 2
Diablo 2
Shadow of the Colossus
The Witcher series
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Is FREE poster one person? Are they anyone who wishes to fulfill the duty of posting in every thread? What build are they using?
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it's a resident discordtard

don't think anyone gives enough shit to impersonate him because no one is on that level of autism
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>>165731705

xhe is a discordfag

go ask there
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>>165731902
Is discord full of birds? I've never been in there.
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>he didn't unlock the best armor set in the game
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>>165731956
its a bird nest
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>>165729930
>Initial D Stage 1 and 5 OST
my nigga
>when you put in a shaped Racecourse
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https://discord.gg/GJGAr
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I just completed the labrynth for the first time and didn't even know this was here. What's good for a cyclone build?
And do I need to use the enchant station now or should I save it for better gear?
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>>165733141

raider for frenzy charges.

Use the enchant or lose it.
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>>165733141
Raider
Pick up way of the pocher
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>>165733141
RAIDER
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>>165733141
Pathfinder
Nature's Adrenaline

don't be a slowfag.
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>>165729289
Crypt of the necrodancer, undertale.
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Anyone want to run some maps together?
Level 84
(cast on damage taken build)
Washington D.C. gateway
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Is Izaro/general lab difficulty increased with more people?
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>>165733870
you reek of reddit, so no
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>>165733870
Forgot to mention, (softcore) breach.
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>>165733909
he/they doesnt do more damage, only has more life
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>>165732047
but i did twice
It was not worth it.
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Are there bigger cucks than those who refuse to play popular builds just because they are meta?
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sh*tbirds get out
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>>165734347
hardcucks who refuse to play popular builds just because they are meta

but they probably don't exist, autism and powergaming goes together
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>>165717439
replace conversion with Vinktars and you have a good list

>>165728557
theres lots of good builds that dont involve being a leddit meta fagging piece of shit abusing broken mechanics
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>>165734347
>>165734448

>shitbirds cant fathom someone playing a build NOT because its popular of because theur streamer bf plays it, but because its interesting and amusing to play

being born after 1995 was a mistake
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>cuck
How to swiftly tell someone is a millenial retard with one word
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>>165726598
Im talking about normal

daresso hits fucking hard when you're 4 levels below him and your dmg has started to suck major ass in the transition period before you can comfortably switch to facebreakers for the rest of leveling
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>>165730972
Thanks mate, appreciated.
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>>165734505
>sent from my howa ranger
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>>165734594
>>165734594
wtf? you switch to facebreakers as soon as you can equip them and leave them on forever
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Jesus fucking christ, doing breach Domains as a summoner is terrible.

I managed the first 3 but Uul was just not possible.
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>>165735102
srs does it easily
so does animate meme
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>6 weeks of memes until new league

lmao
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What are some good benchmarks so that I know I can take on Chayula. I'm level 90 with a stupidly well put together BV Oblit. 6k hp, 6 jewels with at least 15% dmg, most 30+ on them with 7% life. i've only got a 5 link, but I'm 500 something fusings deep with at least 300 more coming when i trade so hopefully I'll have a 6 link for the attempt. I've been grotesquely poor this league, but i've decided to actually go for the late end game content and I'm sticking with a build so I've decided to use the breachstone i collected from leveling instead of selling for a billion ex. I really don't want to fuck this up, becuase if I fail the attempt then I basically wasted enough dosh to pretty much guarantee my six link, which gets me through the guardians.

I've already killed chayula in the breach he spawned in, but I don't know what eh hp scaling is there.
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>>165735746
can't wait to bump the thread with dank maymays and auction house bait posts.
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>>165735920
>What are some good benchmarks so that I know I can take on Chayula.
monster life enfeeble t16s
if you can destroy tanky rares (golems, bears, bulls, etc) there you're in a good spot
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>>165735920
done chayula 3 times with 5 link cospri as bv berserker
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>>165734594
>>165734789
This.
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>>165736018
right, I'm actually only up to t13's, doing the strand goofball shit so I can't build a good pool to progress and I really don't want to buy t13+, but I guess I'll pick up a t16. Which guardians aren't poison immune, figure I'll go easy on myself.
>>165736034
nice, I know the build is good for that kind of shit and I have a 4 second kill time on Uul at 20 stack with wither totem, but I just don't know what translates to chayula, and AFAIK chayula is litearlly the most expensive thing to do in the game and like i said I'm poor as fuck.
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wat buy i have 2 ex and 10 chaos
i want a build making item
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>>165736174
>That damage
>Impressive

Lmao
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>>165736391
the scourge
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>>165736636
wat build
or you meming me?
should i just save for a cheap starforge or something for my lacerate slayer?
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>>165736174
I have very good rolled facebreakers and 2 phys rings and the phys unique belt. Go ahead and try to use that shit in act4 and see how you do
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I'm making an embertaming BV build after that one faggot mentioned xophs+signal fire, except pathfinder is retarded because emberwake kills crit.

Why are all the ascendencies fucking trash for it? Elementalist is bad because it already has prolif, chieftan means I have to go life based. Do I just go occultist because literally everything else is worthless?
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>>165736712
>or you meming me?
retard
here's my cue to leave this garbage general during trash hours
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>>165737904
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>>165718659
slayer cycloner with atziri's here, guess I'm 100% legit AND viable at the same time
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Have you guys seen the """talent""" entries to the competition ggg is doing?

It's so fucking autistic, literally drawings made by 10 year olds and art by 10 year olds with some fucking songs I hope made by 10 year olds

what the fuck is this game's community
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>>165738983
shitbirds make shitty art
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What's a good build to rush 12 challenges? The footprint is the only one I want.
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>>165718245
Just go zombie spectre SRS if you're new.
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>>165718245
poeurl.com/Rd5

get a cheap 5l staff and craft +2 fire gems on it and run SRS > melee phys > melee splash > minion damage > echo

run haste > generosity + hatred > clarity > vaal haste

enjoy having your FPS go to shit because of the SRS aura bug
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Retard here -

I like Diablo 3 but I have heard this is better. I just want to know what makes it so?

I'm getting kind of burnt on D3 after a billion paragon levels and want to try something new. What does POE have going for it that D3 doesn't?

I'm not trying to troll, I really just don't know.
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>>165739393
Actual character building and progression.
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>>165739393
>I just want to know what makes it so?

witch's feet and Piety's brutal deepthroats
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>>165739393
More builds
but
Each build consists of just holding one button
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>>165738206
Bleed double dips
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>>165738983
>expecting mouth-breathin exiles to do anything good
even a loser like me can do better
i'll prove it right fucking now, complete with too loud mic
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1dLFAET8bst
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>doing kuduku & kadaka prophecy
>exalted drops
Meme magic.
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how do i git gud and level fast

i have 12 hours played at 48 and i see people on youtube get to 70 in 6
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>>165741106
If only you could watch those videos and see for yourself.
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>>165719832
>>165720016

GGG barely plays their own game. For Chris it is a moneymaking machine.
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>>165741106
Buy gear
Be a streamer and have viewers give you gear
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>>165732047

I did and i am very happy about it. Torment, Talisman and Perandus were great leagues.

Shame about Essence and Warbands.
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>>165741795
But theyre all self found
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>>165741923

>streamers
>self-found

Yeah right.

>why do something when it can be done by someone else
>in the end, take all the credit
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>>165741106
Apparently
>Skip anything that isn't blue/purple/yellow
>Don't do side quest
>If underlevels farm Ledge/Docks/Arid Lake
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>>165742079
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWb5P476ES4
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>>165739834
bleed does fuckall dmg, fuck you bitch
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>look up fated connections prophecy on poe.trade
>1 for sale, 50 ex
what the hell? do these niggers not know basic math?
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When do people attempt Izaro?
Also how would I get resists in Merc if i'm running a bow build with 2 essence worm rings.
Seems like such a waste to go to the resist passives.
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>>165742950
Sorry meant to say merc Izaro.
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is there a trade channel for maps only?
people on poe.trade never have the maps anymore or never respond
pls respond
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>>165742950
if you can kill merc malachai then it should be safe to do merc izaro, depending on your build skip azaro or whatever is the pet name
if you really want to be safe wait level 80 and good gears
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>>165742950
>2 essence worm rings

Nigga just use your mana pool at that point. If you're using 2 50% auras you could just grab Charisma cluster and have more than enough mana to support your skill. As for Izaro, make sure you don't buff him at all and Decoy Totem will carry you through the fight. Make sure you check lab notes for merc and check the wiki page on what you need to do in order to not buff him.
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>>165743359
>>165743350
Cool i'll just wait for Izaro till it's safe, currently just hit a3 on merc hc.
Running bloodmagic perma phys leech slayer with grace and determination so kinda need essence worm rings.
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>>165742869

I dont think they care, or they do it for "laughs".

I have seen plenty of that shit.
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If I play Flicker on HC am I just asking for a rip
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>melee
>>
DO YOU LIKE...
MY CAR?
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>>165743708
Not as long as you have a Stibnite and a good computer/connection
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>>165743708
You'll be fine as long as you can deal with reflect and can handle average volatiles.
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>>165743708
you'll do fine if you can keep yourself from namelocking mobs to avoid desync
>>
ded
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>quality is no longer removed when rerolling sockets/links
I wasn't aware of this
So since the increased chance of rolling a better outcome is now permanent, statistically speaking, I should see a 6L within 1200 fusings right? Assuming that 1500 fusings gives you a 99% chance
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>>165747503
google it
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>>165746158
>namelocking
?
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>>165747554
Already did that
Apparently it's a 881 in 1 chance to 6L but we all know it's not that good otherwise there'd be no point in the 1500 orb bench recipe
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>tfw you dont even want to level during the week because of wagecucking
>>
>Get to 70
>Want to buy some gear
>No one replies
>Don't want to play anymore

Trade is the worst part of poe
Blog
>>
i don't think you can fully understand poe racing unless you've raced in real life
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I cannot wait until my SSD comes tomorrow. I feel as if my current hard drive is shitting the bed, launching the game and getting into town takes at least 5+ minutes, and then loading into new areas takes anywhere from 30s-1m
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meanwhile i'm struggling to find enough money for food
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getting real fuckin tired of this memery where people post shit clearly targeted at someone else but don't even link the person's post
it's like those vapid bitches in highschool who'd make snide remarks at people for no reason
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>>165749621
I just installed the game on my SSD, literally nothing changed.

The game is just shit.
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>>165750142
>>165749621
Disregard this homo. Since I installed this game on my SSD all loading times decreased.
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>when you're in strand and get zana strand
:^)
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i'd love to get stranded with zana
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tfw you've been shitposting alongside a small handful of people for literal years

i bet we'd be friends irl
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just here to remind you that starforge is a noobtrap shit.
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should i buy shit with my exalts now or trade em for chaos
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>best 2h sword skill is sweep
>everyone with a starforge plays lacerate
explain this poetards
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>>165751158
do w/e you want fagboi
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if i met catshitter in real life id punch him in his smug face

fuck that cunt
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im the guy with the fucked up build, can someone help me with labyrinth on normal?
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figure it out yourself
this isn't a daycare
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>reading random shit on forums
>come across a thread about mjölner change in 2.4
that salt lmao
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>>165752358
you might say it's funny but our guy bakedchicken killed himself over coc nerf
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>>165752358

people in temp leagues dont give a shit but there are permaleague """people""" who spent thousands of hours putting together their mjol build
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2 week race fucking when?
>>
never
ggg killed pvp and you didn't speak up, now it's time for racing
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>>165752938
Dumbass
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>>165752604
for what purpose?
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lol this shaped atlas shit is good. I basically get infinite shaped strands. I can sell extra to easily pay for cost of sextants and then make more profit on top of it
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>>165750941
I've been here since ambush and haven't become a meme yet i feel ripped off
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>>165753206
it was considered a top tier build, exceptionally strong if done right

now its weaker than cospris, and cospris is shit
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if i hear ONE more person say "DOUBLE DIP" I"M guna douple DIP my dick in ur ass
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double dip
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*double dips ur ass*
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i didn't feel anything, must be your dick being too small LMAO
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>At your cervix

why is Vagan so rude?
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is Vaal pact worth it for most cases when you have a ton of life leech?
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>>165755221
yes
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>>165755221

vp is worth it if you plan to make life leech a significative layer of defense
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>>165755404
Ok follow up. It pretty much acts like life on hit right?

I feel like after the hundreds of hours I have spent playing I am making Vaal pact more complicated than it needs to be.
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>have the power to kill literal gods
>cant open a sewer crate without its keys
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what level should i be to do the labyrinth?
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>>165733870
>A1
>Meat
>for making waffles
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Anything that can be improved on this tree?

Doing Xoph Nurture Burning Arrow

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQBAK_rAdGiQPT4oSLEorvj_rp9ddN-AF4Zju2DCC6n1P7I73ruDqOKI_ZNko19VvrdRmOnEYH8xQ2NW6-HduOfSn1noE4qI9NvJ5pqj2BM_0MxjX63tnXL6mK-p2VNvTZHfoTZsKvEgorw6UbawXTtBS1670CgLlPTb14TIVXcPQd1wKaplIdq705hUoZgIq84U3bnOlK8nxiRMn78SxRNDjwV7MLsBbWNvxRx2XyCBypb-OvqGHasz373MnzZMHxRR5UF2cYylH8CpuAIiZrxXWjKqbkdpTUMcO_RQ6M7tvVhUdqVJK2NefZDNlLs
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>>165756138
not enough double dipping, which is only fine if you're gonna run vba for bosses
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free trial of crippling depression
unsolved
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this rip feels like bs

>loading screen takes ABNORMALLY LONG (something like 2-3 minutes before i tab out)
>tab out quickly to ping my router and google as reference
>tab back to my ripped char

it was just a3n and i had nothing of value on me but still
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>>165756373
>Tabbing out during a load screen
Retard
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>>165756373
Life endures in Wraeclast
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>>165756138
Why the fuck do you have two-handed melee weapon nodes?
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>>165755869
>Comparing yourself in Sarn with you during maps
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>>165756603
lioneye's fall you fucking newshit
fuck off back to r/eddit
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>>165756762
Faggot
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>>165756762
why are you scaling bow when you should be scaling fire?

BA needs double dippin hard

bow nodes dont double dip
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>>165756905
im not that guy, retard
just answering your dumbass question
go argue about his build like i give a shit you clueless retard
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>>165756373
actually i did lose a 20q faster casting there

thats like 10c down the drain
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>>165756905
No fire nodes near my tree. Would I even get 100% effectiveness from fire since im scaling off phys but converting?
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>>165757056

your question makes no sense.

and reason not to scale fire makes no sense
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>>165755986
pls help i keep dying
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>>165757056

>i know how to make a BA build
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>>165757197
good players with ssf gear can do
normal lab at 35
cruel lab at 55
merc lab at 70
uber lab at 80

not that those are not necessarily the optimal levels if you're powerleveling and don't really need ascendancy points right away, just the common levels you can complete respective labs without getting pummeled by izaro
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>>165757359
whats ssf?
anyway im a shit player with crap gear and die usually at the 2nd boss.
im lvl 46, doing it on normal
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>>165757321
can u remake my tree then?

What do i get on gear, phys dmg to attacks or fire dmg.
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>>165757476
solo self found i.e. you have crappy gear for your level compared to what you could get if you just bought gear

46 is way overleveled for normal lab, get better
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>>165742180
retard
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>Mjolner 5c
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>get to level 90
>grab that last notable I wanted
>no longer feel like I need additional levels
>just mapping without worries, eventually level up because the grind is going smoothly since I don't really care if I die because I'm not playing cuckcore
>every extra level feels like a nice bonus
this feels pretty good mane
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>>165758268
nothing you accomplish in shitcore will ever matter
>>
slayerbabbies are dumb, literally just play berzerker
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starforge isn't a fucking noobtrap, noobs thing it sucks
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>>165758372
just like hardcuck
difference is I don't get expelled from the league because the server lagged/my logout macro failed
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>>165758436
difference is you're still playing in the sandbox while grown-ups are playing in the field

>but hardcucks use logout macros
so play without one, who's forcing you to? dumbass
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>>165758372
>accomplish
It's a videogame.
nothing you do in PoE will ever matter irl.
Doesn't mean you can't have fun.
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>>165758559
>run away from everything that might have even the slightest chance of being difficult/lethal
>adults
my sides are shaking here pham
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>>165758436
you should try using a logout macro in softcore; the best script has shortcuts for hideout, party quitting, whisper replies (e.g., in a map, already sold that, eat shit bitch)

dying after 90 in sc literally annoys me more than losing an 80+ hc character
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shitbirds are so shit oh my god
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>>165758706

>shitcrow
>too dumb to make his own scripts

make a lot of sense
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>>165758427
lmao ok, the only more multipliers you can use with it are melee phys and melee phys on full life if you're ci. so you're either stuck going totems, or crit. and it has shit base crit.

n o o b t r a p
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>>165759431
>hardcuck
>too dumb to use tools already available

checks out
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>>165759452

>toolptip warrior worried he cant use wed to fluff up his dps

LOL
>>
How to play HC:

1. Shove as much Life down your character's throat as you possibly can
2. Use OP skill and run all the auras
3. Pray to god server instability doesn't screw you over
4. f4 whenever you go below 50% Life.
5. Be a pretentious prick thinking you're better than all the softcore player who probably knows the game better than you.

SO HARDCORE!!!!!

elitist f*cks
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what can i do with a 2B3R1G skin of the loyal?

i already have a l3 empower if needed
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>>165759709
>who needs dps when you just farm shaped strand 12 hours a day for them E X A L T E D orbs
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Why can't I get Zana to come to my mancave?
I haven't seen her once in two full days of mapping...
>>
Never played HC outside of race. I'm thinking of giving it a go just to see how it goes now that I got my breach protal achivement and dont feel like pushing for the wings.

So with that said, do you guys think a Shockwave Totem build would be a good one to start? Seems flexible and safe enough.
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>>165760258
warchief totems is probably better right now
>>
pariah ring from unique strongbox aww yeee
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>>165760258
it would be ok

but right now youve far better options

if i was starting fresh id either go scorch cwc fs or ea

those builds start cheap but can be scaled as much you like
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>>165760450
yeah? Never really looked at it since it was introduced. I'll take a look.

>>165760617
thanks for the suggestion, will also take a look at these
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What is the smallest currency you bother picking up from the ground?
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>>165760984
exalts
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what skills should i use as a firewitch?
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>>165760984
I pick everything even in red maps. Like, you have no idea how many fucking scrolls I have at this point.

It's actually a problem, I CANT just ignore robs/scroll, I feel bad for leaving if I dont pick them up.
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>>165761178
Fire skills that do damage
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>>165760984
Anything lower than an alt I only pick up if it's directly under me.
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>>165761178
cold snap
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>>165761178
Burning Arrow
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whats with the xoph nurture BA build that is so memey right now?

its literally the most inefficient way to do prolif builds

its EA without the gem level scaling
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>>165761635
it's new
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>>165761635
Xophs isn't that great because it will generally place you on the wrong side of the tree. It seems better to just go elementalist and pickup fire nodes but then you might aswell use a fire spell and avoid a bunch of the bother
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>>165761635
>He doesn't know
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Discord link?
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>>165762423
fuck off, postmillenial
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>>165762423
meatspin org [slash] dickscord
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>>165762487

Was born in 1999 dickwad

Im Gen X

>>165762569

Not my first time around the block, good sir.
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>>165762907
>>165762907
fuck off kid
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>Skill gem that gathers all the currency around you in an area when?
Can even make it a fucking vaal gem so that it has to be charged up.
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>>165762423
https://discord.gg/rQQNw
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>>165763771

Much appreciated, sir!

*nods*
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>>165763691
>Vaal Cyclone now also vacuums currency
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>>165763846
nys
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>>165761178
flameblast or firestorm
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>>165762907
>1999
>Gen X

lol no
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>>165763860
what kind of coffee is that
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i can't wait until they remove double dipping and nerd the fuck out of ci so you hardcuck retards actually have to think about your builds instead of grabbing 15k es and a poison/ignite skill
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where can i find builds?
>>
anyone else depressed ALL the time here..?
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>>165765006
i have some builds for u here *unzips dick*

>>165765015
you need to either reject or embrace the alienating notions that have their hold on you, depression results from wallowing in the middle ground of cognitive dissonance.
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>>165765236
can you stop using complicated words
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>>165765006
http://www.poebuilds.io/builds/hc
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>>165765274
there's something specific you are feeling bad about and you need to either get your shit together or just enjoy being a piece of shit
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>>165765015
Yes, most of us
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which armor for cyclone berserker? belly, brass dome, kaoms!
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is this better than what i posted yesterday?
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>>165765442
this isn't how depression works. idl wtf youre doing here or how youve never meant anyone with a chemical imbalance before. or youre just being a cock.
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>>165765589
sure
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>>165765442
i don't have any real reason to feel bad
i just do
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>>165765625
>muh chemical imbalance

top kek, teens have a chemical imbalance, adults with depression have shit habits

>>165765581
depends on what you need, i'd probably end up using a kaoms in endgame but until then I'd go with a 6L rare chest or a bringer of rain setup
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>>165765236
>>165765373
where can i get flameblast from?
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>>165765930
act3 vendor after you kill the ebony barracks bossperson
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>>165765589
yes but it's still meh. You'll learn dawg
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>>165765930
act 3 after gravicius i think, but I would probably just buy a quality one for a chaos
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>>165765581
essence of horror crafted astral plate
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>>165765236
*sucks greedily*
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>>165765740
and what can i improve ?

>>165766046
what do you mean quality one?
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>>165766272
gems can have a quality %, like weapons and armor, that increase their effectiveness in various ways. Flameblast has a rather boring but powerful one that increases its damage by 1% per 1% quality.
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>>165766272
>and what can i improve ?
dont worry about it go play.

if this is for flameblast you want to stack AoE and cast speed. but seriously just play
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>>165766272
>>165766489
yeah if you're this new i suggest just playing the game and having fun
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>>165765589

You could've saved two points.
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started a bit late by now I'm getting an ok flow of red maps
for some reason I seem to find Volcano a LOT, so if I didn't do core yet for the altas, should I just vendor 3 volcano or just wait for core? Is it worth it to merge red maps or its preferable to run them all?
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>>165766852
post deaths
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Ok, since i am Chaos Incinerate, which one is better to scale Incinerate, Flameblast, Scorch Ray and Firestorm - one at the top or one at the bottow (red circle).

One gives 55% Fire dmg, other 54% Chaos dmg. Which is better for efficient conversion?

I also have Abyssal Cry, Wither and that ascendancy passive that explodes enemies for chaos dmg.

I kinda feel that it does not matter that much, but i can be wrong.

i have another option: dual Obliteration Blade Vortex CoC Bladefall/Ethereal Knives.

Wat do, how to exist? Carry on and see how far i can reach with Chaos Incinerate or respec?
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>>165767126
I... you don't want to see that
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>>165767140
this reads like someone vomiting on me.

we dont know how much youre converting. youre asking about FIVE skills (before your secondary question).

take the fire nodes, probly.
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Playing vaal spark makes all my other characters feel slow as fuck. I think I'm also getting autism from going fast everywhere
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>>165767301
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>>165767301
didnt think so. my advice is to do whatever you want because it doesnt fucking matter. restart at checkpoint if wrong. stop posting here.
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>>165767140
Honestly just go download the program path of building and import your character into it.
It will show when you hover over any node how much dps/other stats you will gain from getting it. You can use it to easily compare what skills are best for you to go for
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>>165767602
stupid sakura poster
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is it true that if u pick up trans orbs your dick falls off?? is that why streamers dont pick them up
>>
>>165767523

I am sorry to hear that.

>>165767632

Gonna do it, thank you for pointing that out.
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what ascendancy should i choose for my witch?
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>>165768086
necro
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>>165767625
>restart at checkpoint if wrong. stop posting here.
wow
my question was about the value of said maps, not if I can run them.
I already know I can, I'm just wondering whats more worth it, running 3 Volcano or running 1 Core
>>
3,4k life with 5 end charges is fine for Izaro merc right? I just don't have to get hit.
>>
lads if I use Liege of The Primordial with pyre do I get that double dmg if I use a cold&fire elemental?
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>>165768210
>the value of said maps
poe.trade

>>165768307
youre probly gonna die
>>
What's a good dps build that can take a punch ? Is facebreakers the only good one because all totem or spell ones I've tried seem to have high tendency to being 1 shot
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>>165768446
you're retarded

>>165768210
I think the best way to find out is simply to run them. I would run the volcanos but I don't know how good your build is or what you prefer.
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>>165768369
Yes
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>>165768369
yeah, if youre converting liege of the primordial is a huge dmg boost. you get double the fire golem's natural dmg increase as well. make sure youre getting snowforged
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>>165768509
um what the fuck are you even asking
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>>165768545
>>165768558
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>>165768509
whispering ice
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rushing people through lab is literally printing money lmao
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>>165768181
is it the best or the most fun?
someone told me i should get CI, does this work well with that?
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>>165768687
How though? Why not just run it yourself
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>>165768593
He wants a build that can dps but has alot of tankiness

>>165768509
Facebreaker is pretty solid because you basically resign all your damage to your gear
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>>165768709
You should probably look at the witch forums and see a guide.
It's all preference. Yes CI would work fine if you have the gear for it
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>>165768709
maybe poe isnt for you
>>
>>165768930
im just new, sorry senpai.
as far as i know i cant change my ascendancy class, and it took pretty long to level, so i dont want to choose something which is objectively bad
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What do you guys think is the best boss killer? I'm thinking of making a new character to pair with my fast clearer. My first character could do both, but I'd rather just have a way better boss killer to switch to
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>>165768808
Kinda bored of facebreakers I ran it 3-4 times now do you know of anything similar?
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>>165769039
ed
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>>165768509
facebreakers don't have a very good skill to use with them atm. cyclone facebreakers is pretty pathetic. no life build is "tanky" without a kaoms and and a Large investment into life on the tree. even then it's nearly always less tanky than CI with less investment
>>
>>165769074
Any ascendancy in particular? I think I've seen both assassin and occultist ones. I wanted to make an occultist but didn't see much about it
>>
imagine so much of a shitter you actually have to buy lab runs LOL
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>>165769272
>tfw I had to join uber rota on my guardian support because damage is shit
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>>165769019
there is no objectively bad since you dont even have a build in mind
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>>165769145
>I've seen both assassin and occultist

You mean trickster and occultist? Go occultist for the -20% chaos res if you are boss killing.
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>>165769113
Dunno man shield charge with facebreakers carried me very comfortably till level 82 and quite bit into maps then I got permafroze in a corrupted area and died.
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>>165769615
Maybe I was misinformed. Alright I'll find a guide later and set it up. I assume CI is best? Time to abandon my WI character ;-;
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>>165769019
>as far as i know i cant change my ascendancy class
sure you can
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>>165769113
>facebreakers don't have a very good skill to use with them atm. cyclone facebreakers is pretty pathetic. no life build is "tanky" without a kaoms and and a Large investment into life on the tree. even then it's nearly always less tanky than CI with less investment

ex fuckign dee dude i'm impressed at how wrong u are, everything in this post is wrong
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>>165769723
you'll get used to abandoning characters dw about it
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>>165769706
this sounds like youre making my point.
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free trial of stinging loneliness
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Can't wait for act5. I simpyl can't map without wanting to reroll another char instead. Grinding at that point is just boring.
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when is the new league
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hope catshitter's mom dies of cancer
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For a righteous fire build, is it worth dropping EE for xoph's blood? Using scorching ray to make up for fire pen.
If it didn't have avatar of fire it would be perfect.
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>>165770028
Ugly, didn't buy it.
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>>165770392
post yfw there is another league before act 5
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>>165770948
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>>165769615
>tfw I can't find ED guide on witch forums
rlly makes me think
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>post yfw you come across a divinator's strongbox
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>>165767632

A very usefull thing this Path of Building. Thank you very much senpai!
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>>165771169
me too. about how you put on pants and stuff.
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>>165771379
same. I should know how to make ED occultist ez after playing for 2 weeks
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>>165771309
nice quote. it's almost like it's a day off for high schoolers in the US or something
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>>165771519
https://www.google.com/search?q=essence+drain+guide+poe+2.5&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

youre literally being spoonfed google searches. now. maybe this game isn't for you.
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>>165771662
Wow 1 shitty youtube video and the rest are all trickster. Real helpful aren't you
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>>165771016
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What's the fastest way to find a Vaal side area? I have like 3 prophecies that require me to find one...
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>>165771016
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>>165772071
use a sacrifice in the map machine
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>>165771765
poeurl.com/0sl
Use a consuming dark and an essence of delirium crafted sceptre or dagger.
There, you should be able to figure out the rest yourself.
You might want to drop vile bastion for tripple curse, whatever suits you.
>>
>>165772527
ohhh right damn ur a genius
>>
Just played a bunch of D2, and want to play PoE again.

Haven't played since the original-ish release. What do I need to know going into hardcore?
>>
>>165772723
Thanks. I appreciate it
>>
>>165772975

youll die to bs then rage about it here

repeat that a few times

then maybe youll get good

but probably not

then you may start avatarfagging with cat photos and complain about how hard the game is
>>
>>165771016
i hope its a good one like nemesis
>>
>>165771520
happy black people day
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>>165773823
I never did any of that when I played at launch.

Did they fix de-sync? If so, I'll probably be 100% rageless.
>>
>>165774552
if your net is good, desync is virtually fixed now with lockstep mode

if your net connection to servers aint too good, its only slightly better
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>>165774695
Alright, I should be good then.

Thanks.
>>
>path of building says my planned build has about 380k dps per totem
>so about 760 with AB
>with 217% life

is this keylogger accurate?
>>
>level 38
>0 chaos, 1 unique

>level 34
>5 chaos, 7 uniques

explain this
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>>165776132
i don't know what your build is dude, 2 mil dps on warchief is possible so what the fuck do you want
>>
>>165777309
its a noncrit flame totem build with relatively cheap gear

i was just surprised it got so high the way i was plannning it
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>>165777172
rng
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>>165777434
that's cool i hope it feels good to play
>>
Returning player here.

Playing breach league regular to start with, because I don't want to jump into HC right away.

What would I be better off to start with, a dual flameblast totem build, or a self cast firestorm witch?
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How do I deal with prolonged boss fights as Inquisitor Consecrated ground righteous fire? I have a single target Scorching Ray + CwC + Flame Surge but with the constant degen I have trouble with huge hits from bosses or sustained damage from them.
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>>165779313
fb totem
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>>165779313
firestorm leveling is pretty much the best in the game, it would be very easy to transition into a lategame version if u go that route
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>>165779680
Why so?

>>165779949
Interesting. I've also heard that it is one of the better self found item builds, which is good considering I have literally nothing on breach.
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>>165780525
not him but flameblast totem is really safe & cheap and pretty strong because of flameblast strong scaling and putting it on a totem means u dont have to worry about mana or reflect or a bunch of other shit
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>mfw i hit the 3 screen long ed/contagion combo
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>>165779415
Get more regen. Why the fuck are you running RF if you can't sustain it?
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>>165780974
>when you ED and then your game slows down as you kill everything the breach has spawned and will spawn for the next 5 seconds
no other build gives me these feels
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>4 lvl 85-90 characters this league
>Not a single exalt drop.
Apparently supporter pack rng isn't real.
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double dipping was a mistake.
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>Shav's drops
>Chanced a skyforth
>21'd an essence drain
>Shitton of exalt drops
>Chayula in a breach three times
Breach has been good to me
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Poeg is starting to be like the sc2 gen
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>>165781978
AYOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHICH PLASTIC GOOK DO YOU LIKE THE MOST, BROSKIES?
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New player here, what should be my first actual build?
Warchief totems or Essence Drain?
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>>165781875
>k
>nice
>good for you
>why not
>YOU FUCKING LUCKY PIECE OF SHIT
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>>165781597
thats wat ure mum said after i asstomouthed her
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>>165782176
Somebody who just recently started here, I'd suggest something life based. Possibly search for a "league starter" or something, they're usually cheaper from what I've seen. My first build was ED and it is expensive as fuck for a new player, decent ES/int gear starts at a minimum of like 20chaos.

Basically what I'd do, find a league starter and then if its ES based ignore it and move on. If it is life based search the unique (orange) items on poe.trade and see how much they cost. If more than one piece is 40 chaos do not bother with it, you'll feel like shit.

That's just my experience though, I'm sure I'll get a knowitall who will respond talking about how wrong I am. Take it from another newish player, don't follow the memes for your first build, just find something cheap and usable.
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>>165783269

when you speak about 20c rings and 40c chest pieces, you are talking about endgame upgrades

those are always expensive no matter what build you pick

ED is cheap get started on, and to get it going well enough to farm up to yellow maps with minimal investment
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>>165780974
what build is this?
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juggernaut righteous fire
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>>165783550

xhe is literally saying its ED
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>>165783754
im new and dont know what ED is.
if its fun, can i use it on my mage?
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>>165783892
no and yes
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>>165783525
Endgame prices matter a lot for a new player. When I hit maps I was in the process of gearing for CI and mapping while getting instagibbed every once in awhile because of shit gear is not fun. You have to remember you don't start the game with the knowledge of a experienced player. You don't know whats good besides "I want a lot of ES" or "I want a lot of int." I leveled mostly in eva/ES gear and at 60-65 it wasn't fun.

I got super lucky and got 2 exalts while leveling, so I was able to buy a 600+ ES 5L and the uniques I needed for endgame. Still had to farm a lot though to get my build to a decent spot. I couldn't imagine if I didn't get those exalts.

For a first build I'd just suggest keeping it to 1 exalt, preferably less if possible. It's unreasonable and really depresses you when you see the goal and it's asking for a 2exalt unique and about 2 more exalts in other pieces.
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What if uniques vendored for silver coins?
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Any bro in BSC to remove an elreon mod for me? I'll pay 5 chaos.
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righteous fire juggernaut
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>>165783892
ED is short for essence drain. It scales great and can do all content with a relative low cost. I wouldn't recommend it as your first character though, it needs a six link to reach its potential and even bad 6link es chests will not come cheap for a new player. As recommended try a life based build first. Flamebast totems is a good start if you want to use spells, for melee i'd recommend earthquake or cyclone. Both are cheap and easy to level and get going later on.
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>>165784229
Also should add, when you get to a higher level and need more ES, the average price of items goes up accordingly. A level 50 item with good ES, int, and 2 resists may be 5chaos, but at level 70 that same quality of item (40ish resists) is probably 25chaos at least. I've played a few life based builds now and they feel much cheaper and less stressful than trying to gear ES. I'm still broke as fuck so its not like I've got an advantage besides having a Tabula and a little more game knowledge.
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>>165784229

your mistake was trying to build for ES so early on

what normal people is build as if you were a life build until you can afford proper ES gear and then switch

you literaly CHOSE to fuck up and ignore anyone saying you made a mistake
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or you can go rf with the juggernaut ascendancy in marauder
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>>165784654
>you literaly CHOSE to fuck up and ignore anyone saying you made a mistake
What are you talking about? I never posted about build troubles in here.

>your mistake was trying to build for ES so early on
Yeah I mean, why didn't I just start the game with the knowledge of how to do everything right. Fuck.

>what normal people is build as if you were a life build until you can afford proper ES gear and then switch
So you agree life based builds are easier and cheaper to gear for a new player.
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>>165784928
>What are you talking about? I never posted about build troubles in here.

if you made no research on builds when your leveling build started panning out, then its also entirely on you

>So you agree life based builds are easier and cheaper to gear for a new player.

sure. so what? you think ED builds are only ES based or what? ED is one of the few builds that works on ANY setup. Even as BM
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Anyone care about standard?
I'm practicing shaper for BHC and I don't care about the drops so which anons want starforge/dying sun/murder boots/WutFace gloves?
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>>165784574
ive already skilled lots of ES and i dont think i have enought strength for totems, im at 326int, 14dex/str.
i really have no idea what to do, right now im spending points in fire dmg and ES, but i kinda like chaos damage because it sounds edgy, but the 2 chaos skills i have are shit
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>>165784387
Anyone? I'm a shitter with a level 5 Elreon...
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>>165785563

/poeg/ is 100% ELITE HC players....
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>>165785743
Ok but I just started the league and I want to get familiar with the game first.
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>>165785129
>if you made no research on builds when your leveling build started panning out, then its also entirely on you
Is every argument you make going to be based off of false assumptions? Just because I didn't post here asking spergs like you how to build my character doesn't mean I didn't do my own research.

>you think ED builds are only ES based or what? ED is one of the few builds that works on ANY setup. Even as BM
Yeah that low life build will be great for a new player. Wait till he sees how cheap Shav's is, they all recommend it after all. Or do you mean a no resist "budget" build? Because that will also go over well when he actually has to play it.
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baka every 6ink drop I have gotten is corrupoted
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>>165784387
What's your name?
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>>165785924
Skarsnyk
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>>165784387
I can help if you need for free
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How shit is my emberwake+the taming build? Is there anywhere I can squeeze out a few more % of life? http://poeurl.com/0ti
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>>165785867
>Is every argument you make going to be based off of false assumptions? Just because I didn't post here asking spergs like you how to build my character doesn't mean I didn't do my own research.

any research would have told you to level as life

NO GUIDE EVER WOULD TELL YOU TO LEVEL AS ES-BASED. ONLY A RETARD WOULD DO THAT

>Yeah that low life build will be great for a new player. Wait till he sees how cheap Shav's is, they all recommend it after all. Or do you mean a no resist "budget" build? Because that will also go over well when he actually has to play it.

LL? wtf are you even talking about? when did i mention LL at all? are you honestly retarded enough that you believe its impossible to build ED as a life char?
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it's shit Tbh you didn't even tell us what skill you're using
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shitcrows need grown ups to nurture them. the general.
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>>165785294
pls help
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>>165786389
>any research would have told you to level as life
You take what you can get, just because all of my gear was mostly eva/ES does not mean I was CI at level 50. I was CI at 70 after I bought my chest, shield, and helm. Sorry I didn't have the luxury of choosing 70+ HP/25+ resists with 4L in the correct colors while leveling.

>LL? wtf are you even talking about? when did i mention LL at all? are you honestly retarded enough that you believe its impossible to build ED as a life char?
>"even as BM"
>WHY ARE YOU MENTIONING LL???
I'm honestly a little amused that you're so defensive about ED when the main point of my post was to argue for making a life build instead of a ES build. So keep it up, you're getting worked up about something I literally don't give a shit about just so you can pretend you're right.
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just started today
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>>165787237
>bm necessarily means ll

what i take is that you are newshitter who is completely clueless about the game

go on, continue giving your shit advice when you dont even understand basic game mechanics
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>>165787529
>agree with me that life is easier and cheaper
>your nonexistent advice meant more
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>>165787974

>he believes ED and LIFE are mutually exclusive
>he thinks is a good idea to level as ES+EVA (lol)
>he thinks endgame itemization determines whether a build is expensive to get started or not
>he believes BM = LL

the worst thing about shitters is that in a couple minutes you are gonna reply to someone giving your utter shit advice on their build
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okay i tried ED, is there something special to it that i need to do for it to do much damage?
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>>165788402

your playing an arpg. what do you think?
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>>165788306
>given chance to give his advice that he thinks is so much better
>doesnt take it
>instead moves goal posts and tries to bait
so this... is the power... of /poeg/...
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>>165788402
ED sucks until maps
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>>165788402
It has great support gems, if you can get a tabula for leveling at 6l it'll melt everything till you need to gear for maps. Then just slap on a weapon with decay and enjoy ez boss fights.
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>>165788402
void manip, poison, etc.
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>>165779419
What build?
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>>165788903
Not even that guy but you are Dunning-Kruger effect incarnate.
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>>165788402
You get some support gems at level 8, then a fuckloads of them at level 31. Don't forget to use it in conjunction with Contagion, it spreads your ED DoT. Also grab wither from Nessa as well as a Spell Totem gem and link those two together to use for bosses to help with your deeps.
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>>165758559
>>165758760
>>165767625
>>165785743
>>165786761

>tfw you have nothing else going for themselves so they have to be smug about video games
>tfw I don't know that feel

kekking hard desu
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>>165787445
I'll be joining you once I run out of Vaults senpai

But I sealed every other T12 for the time being so that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. I also sealed every T11 save for Underground Sea since it's adjacent anyway, but it still means that 50% of all T11 drops are Strand, so it builds a pool.
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>>165790528
When I was 50% I wasn't really building much of a pool. I also wasn't using sextants then either. Now with sextants/only map to drop I get loads of them
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>>165790409
>>165790409

I'm smug about everything i do.
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>>165790864
whats it like being an insufferable twat with no friends?
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>>165790701
It's not really a concern for me since 3 Underground Sea trades up to another Vault anyway.
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>>165790148
>play a life build
>he argues about the viability of ED for a first build
>me: cool but play a life build right?
>him: yeah but ur dumb and wrong
>me: ok
He was never going to present anything of value anyway.
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i just realized bf cwc bv/bf QUAD DIPS poison your off flat phys nodes

gonna break the meta wide open boys
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>>165791612
except from what you're saying you missed the whole point of xher argument
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they fixed bv double dipping poison, dumb turdbird
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>>165791818
>xher

Is this a new meme?
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no they didn't

it's a bandaid and poison still works the same way with inheriting skill type nodes
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>>165791864
>>165792456

they fixed that bv was double dipping poison and decay inside its implicit skill MORE multiplier

everything else is the exact same as it was

and poison cant dip in flat phys nodes, unless those are hybrid chaos/phys nodes
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>>165791818
If you believe you're right then present your case. You don't act smug and then strawman, that isn't how this works.
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>>165793004


This was your original argument>>165783269

You incorrectly state that ED is expensive as a started build.

You incorrectly imply ED also means ES, and fail to take the hint that that is not the case for several more replies.

You incorrectly advice someone new to research prices on end game gear and take as a basis for build cost.

You are correct in that life builds are cheaper, but no one claimed otherwise.
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>>165793004
HE ALREADY DID YOU FUCKING DUMBASS IT'S NOT ANYONE'S FAULT BUT YOURS THAT YOU CAN'T READ MY GOD, YOU'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR TWO FUCKING WEEKS AND TALKING SHIT YOU'LL FIT RIGHT IN WITH THIS SHITHOLE
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>>165793407
>You incorrectly state that ED is expensive as a started build.
My bad I didn't put """CI/ED""" or """ES ED""", even though I stated it was ES right after. I didn't say ED is only ES, I said find a life build or a league starter instead.

>see above

>You incorrectly advice someone new to research prices on end game gear and take as a basis for build cost.
I literally see nothing wrong with accounting for end game. Most good "build guides" will give you alternatives to wear while you gear for the ideal end game pieces. Knowing what you're going for gives you a good idea of how to spend your currency. If the main piece of gear at "end game" is a level 69 staff that costs 40 chaos, then you know whats most important.

I specifically stated find a cheap "League Starter." The point of that is because they are cheap to level and cheap to gear at end game. Prices can change from the beginning of a league, so that's why I think using poe.trade to look things up first and do some research is a good idea. Fuck me for wanting to be informed, right?

This strawman shit is tiring.
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can you just stop replying to newshits altogether
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>>165794350
>I specifically stated find a cheap "League Starter."


Nearly every build that can be do with the vendor gems is a cheap starter build

Starter builds that arent cheap are those that need expensive build-enabling uniques to work, or as a staple element of the build (like stuff that needs Astramentis right now).

Every starter build can scale with currency, yet that doesnt mean it matters for leveling purposes. Worry if a build doesnt take off until level 80, but if its functional arounf 65-70, you can farm currency with it and continue progressing.
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Looking at how XP penalty works, am I right in saying I should be running dried lakes until about 76 then move onto maps? Or solo then group run lakes til about 78 and jump straight to T4?
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>>165794847
if you have a healthy pool of dunes/peninsula/mesa it's probably better, yeah.
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>>165795029
I have a heap of Phantasmagoria and Acid Lakes for T4 so I didnt want to waste them if I didnt have to.
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>>165794350
>If the main piece of gear at "end game" is a level 69 staff that costs 40 chaos, then you know whats most important.

id be surprised if the """""""MAIN"""""" endgame item for ANY build is a 40c anything

if we are talking about real builds, endgame itemization is never going to be cheap. 40c is what EACH of your endgame jewels are gonna cost
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>>165795190
Just run what you have. Dried lake till about 75 is fine, but around then you want to start moving on to yellow maps. Run whatever white maps you haven't done yet for the bonus, then run the stuff that connects to higher tier maps you need so you can stop picking up white maps forever.
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>people memeing about endgame gear and I'm running around in a tabula with 2 screaming eagles to run fast in t11 maps
""""Endgame"""" gear is only needed for red maps and above
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>>165795490
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>>165795490
>2 screaming eagles

that's not even the fastest you can go while also being shitbird tier
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>>165794816
I get that and agree, I'm just stating that a tried and tested life build that's (verifiable) cheap is what I'd recommend. Saves time, money, and stress. I point out poe.trade for just that reason, I looked at a few starters recently that had expensive uniques now because its later into the league and I assume they became more popular.

>>165795305
What if the build uses at least a 5L Hegemony and the rest doesn't matter that much? I think having a cheap build that's good at farming is nice for a first char. You can use it as a jumping off point for the more expensive things that you might want to try.
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>>165795786
how do you get more than 20% movement speed in your two hand slots while also getting to use the master race movement skill?
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>>165795907
>I'm just stating that a tried and tested life build that's (verifiable) cheap is what I'd recommend.

no build is verifiable cheap unless it cant scale with currency, and if it cant scale with currency its a dead-end build

>What if the build uses at least a 5L Hegemony and the rest doesn't matter that much?

doesnt exist
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>>165795969
get a shield and a brightbeak
socket shield charge with faster attacks
it is THE fastest you can move in this game
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can't believe this stupid shit works
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>>165796218
>shield charge
NICE TERRAIN BLOCK

You could've at least said Brightbeak + 3g prismatic eclipse. But I like not crawling around when I loot shit.
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>>165796416
Do you need to kill it? Or just be near any part of it.
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Why whenever I buy something from poe.trade the whisper always includes the location of the item but when people buy from me there is no location given? Is it because they use public stash tabs or something?
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>>165796416
finding out that the kuduku ritual wasnt a meme was one of the biggest redpills of my life
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>>165796608
killed it. 6s in 40 jews after 160 in my ho.
used 30 fuses. remake instance and kill again. my first 6L in another 30 fuses.

also the location of my first ever successful chance.
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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who haven't accepted leap slam as their lord and savior
This doesn't even matter what league you're on. It has better range than shield charge, faster cast time than everything except shield charge, can jump over terrain, and works with brightbeak.
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>>165796559
>leap slam

enjoy getting stuck in terrain
enjoy your capped range
enjoy your slow movement
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>>165796749
Yes its the tabs
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has anyone done ngahmanu axe molten strike?

would it trigger with each projectile?

i theorycrafted a ~300k dps MS build but id like to know what to expect of the projectile proc
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>>165797052
>slow movement
Leap slam is faster though. 1.4 cast time vs shield charge 1.0 cast time, but the 36% attack speed from GGG prismatic means that if you have no other attack speed leap slam is faster than shield charge with brightbeak, and you don't get stuck on random rocks in the terrain, plus you can go up and down cliffs.

Shield charge and leap slam both have 60 unit range.
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>>165796173
You can verify how expensive a build is if you're given the gear recommended for it. My ED build can go LL and use Shav's but I have no plans to ever do that. I just like knowing something works and the price of it before I spend time on it at this point in time.

The hegemony build does exist, its a flicker strike build, its ass on T12+ bosses but clears trash really fast. I looked up flicker strike recently and remembered how cheap that one was so that was my example. There's probably other examples I just haven't looked them up to see. Even that Mathil cwc scorching ray/firestorm build isn't that expensive. Just need a normal tabula (+1 later), empower level 3, and some Doryanis. That's like what... 20 chaos for the important stuff? While leveling you can just use whatever with spell power.
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>>165796218
4L Lightning Warp with dual Apep's and a LW duration enchant is faster desu.
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>>165797601
Read the unique.

20% chance to trigger level 16 Molten Burst on MELEE HIT

The balls from Molten Strike aren't melee hits. They're projectile hits. If they were, the axe would just create an infinite chain.
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>>165797871
lightning warp has a hidden minimum cast time
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>>165796416
What is this thaumaturgy

Explain
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How many chisels you guys use on your shaped strands?
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>>165798108
>chiseling tier 11s
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>>165798584
But I'm only running strands. I was almost sure the other people strand farming were using chisels on them
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>>165798929
Do it. It costs what, 2c every 3 maps? Worth to keep that Strand chain going.
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>>165798929
chisels add maybe 1/9th the value of a single map. It's not worth it.
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>>165799068
It is absolutely worth it from a time/efficiency point of view.
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>>165799036
>>165799068
>>165799142
I seem to be making profit doing it though. Like I'm getting 1-3 strands every strand I run that I chisel/alch. I also sextant stack them. So I get currency drops/random shitty rares/6ls and then abundance of extra strands I can sell
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>tfw can't shape a map twice
double beyond t15 pits would be so amazing
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>>165798584
shaped strand is worth 3c. It's worth chiseling it to get more strands alone.
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>>165797864
>You can verify how expensive a build is if you're given the gear recommended for it. My ED build can go LL and use Shav's but I have no plans to ever do that. I just like knowing something works and the price of it before I spend time on it at this point in time.

My point is that if a build scales with currency (like ED), you anything about "verifying" how expensive it is, is nonsense, because its cost can go as high as you are willing to pay.

You can find a breakpoint that you are comfortable with, but that is merely your own limitations gimping the build, not the build itself being limited by what you want to do.

>The hegemony build does exist, its a flicker strike build

No. That's not a build. A build encompasses full itemization. Your dried-lake viable 5l hege example is merely someone fucking around flicked strike.


>. Just need a normal tabula (+1 later), empower level 3, and some Doryanis. That's like what... 20 chaos for the important stuff?

No. l3 empower is 35c alone (in bhc anyway). And tabulas have been outclassed by loyal skins in this league at least, so its a shitty outdated build if it calls for a tabula.
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Just ran a putrid cloister, holy shit that was super sketch, had 10k es and went down to 2k multiple times. But got like 60cworth of div cards.
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nice build
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>>165799997
>Putrid Cloister
>Difficult in any way
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>>165799985
Why would I play hardcore my first time? It's only 6-7chaos on standard. Tabula is just for the 6L, it doesn't need anything else from that slot and the +1 is nice. Of coarse a loyal skin is better, if you're the same guy then you already said a build can scale with currency. Same logic applies here, its just a recommendation. Some of you guys have forgotten what its like to be new.
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>>165800461
hardcucks can't get anything out of their head but the idea that they're superior, even though half of them macro shit like flasks and warcrys.
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shitcrows fuck off

*shoots you with my laser eyes*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stgrSjynPKs
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>>165801316
so this... is the power of catshitter
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>>165800461
>Of coarse a loyal skin is better, if you're the same guy then you already said a build can scale with currency. Same logic applies here, its just a recommendation.

its scales like you have no idea with currency

you cant """"""""""verify"""""""" its price while ignoring that

you can only get a rough estimate of what youd need to sink in it to have perform in the way you want. in your case, 20c.
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>>165800774
hardcore is easy and boring

>go slow
>take all HP nodes possible
>fortify+endurance
>never do anything hard
>log out if you come close to dying


HC is only hard if you make it hard by doing dumb shit
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>>165802152

people do the exact same content on hc and sc. same gated drops are available on both leagues

difference is in hc you cant make mistakes in rippy fights or yolo bad maps
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>>165802372
Nobody does hard maps anyway?

You just unlock all to t9 then shape your atlas right so you can do strand 10000 times and grind until you're bored
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>>165802576
shut the fuck up shitbird
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>>165802010
>you can only get a rough estimate of what youd need to sink in it to have perform in the way you want. in your case, 20c.
That is what I was saying...

Am I arguing with autism?
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>>165801316
*deflects with mirror and you fucking explode*
pshhhh............
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>>165802576

nope

you sound pretty buttblasted about that tho

did you fail to make it in hc?
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>>165802576
what kind of shitter are you?
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>>165802785
verify = guesstimate. thats a pretty liberal definition and im not sure ill share it
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>>165802849
*it was a mirror arrow*
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>>165802849

you cant deflect my channeled eye lasers you fucking shicrow becuse it doesnt make a hit but a DoT
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Do Zana maps count as completion? I'm worried doing a Zana rota will fuck my Shaped Atlas
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>>165803247
No
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>>165803442
Even killing the boss? I thought it had. Maybe I'll find out the hard way. Some guy just sperged on me though because I joined some rota and then before it started thought about this and left
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>>165803661
You can kill the boss too, it doesn't register as completion either way.
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>>165802989
>>165802862
Did you even play this game?

Wtf

In HC all you need to do is acquire currency then make an alt to do bosses which is expendable and cheap to do anything hard so you don't lose your setup, dump like 5-10ex into a warchief totem build and you can kill shaper easily

Doing it any other way is fucking dumb. And no I didn't die in HC because I made a GoodBuildâ„¢ that was almost impossible to kill unless I didn't act for like 5-10 seconds in any map I went into. Even my SC builds I made facetank any map and t16s/uber lab infinitely

You guys must be playing some shit builds that rip to fucking white mobs or something?
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>>165803247
Someone has to explain this to me. I just do a full atlas all the time and shape my favorite maps. What's the benefits of NOT doing that? How does it even work?
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>>165804094
>make an alt to do bosses
what
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>>165804094

>he needs several dozen sets of differents chars to do what real hc players do with 1

kek
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>>165804094
>I made facetank any map and t16s/uber lab infinitely
What is even the point? I mean the game is DONE at that point. Shit I usually lose interest of the league before reaching that.
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>>165804201
If your only T11 map is Shaped Strand then that is the only T11 that can drop, and it can drop in any T9, T10 or T12 map. This will give you a large pool of Shaped Strands to grind through.

You make it drop even more often by not having any T12 completions, as a T12 drop will then downgrade to a T11 Shaped Strand.
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>>165804201
I unshaped all my t11 and t12 maps. So when I get a t11 or t12 map drop it will drop my shaped map of choice every single time. Allowing you to run the same map over and over
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>>165728721
the POE OST has some nice tracks, but ya others are pretty generic
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>it's another Torr Oglosso inside a strongbox episode
seriously, what's this guy's deal?
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are 6links more often to drop if they are corrupted? Every single one I've ever gotten was from sextant corrupted shit
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>>165804663
yes
vaaling has a chance to completely 6 link an item
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>>165736481
judging by the flasks I'd guess that's normal act 2. That's pretty good damage for normal act 2.
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>>165804568
the packup panels that explain his backstory in the comic said that he was given birth inside a coffer where his mom hid during the sacking of Sarn by the purity rebellion
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>>165804434
>>165804317
>doing logical things in the most efficient and safe way is somehow incorrect
Everyone who's not shit has more than 1 character. Optimizing them for specific content like 1 for farming and 1 for bossing is literally the best possible to way to play, even more so when you'd lose all your items if you die.
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>>165804663
Yes, very much so
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this game has music??

i fucking quit
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>>165804775

>its more efficient to play builds that cant do certain content
>and multiple of them
>each with their distinct endgame itemization
>and needing to remake each of them when you die

LMOA
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>>165739393
The draw to POE is the mechanical depth, the gameplay itself is nothing extraordinary as most top builds can boil down to "spam your damage skill".

The real fun is building and progressing your character.
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You guys think I should start throwing exalts on this when I can?
What is the best way to craft? Do I just master craft shit I don't want exalt to put on it
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>>165804469
>>165804480
Ah I see, thanks. I assume you lose all your atlas bonus if you unshape?
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>>165804918
>make 2 characters
>1 for clearspeed
>1 for farming bosses


Wow, it's almost like that guy running 4 maps in the time it takes you to run 1 might be making more money than you somehow, crazy! xD
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>>165805183

>he cant clear fast and kill bosses on a single char

>is trying to school people

LOL
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>>165804775
>Optimizing them for specific content like 1 for farming and 1 for bossing is literally the best possible to way to play
its an atrociously boring way to play for sure.
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>>165805320
Not really though if you have fun on each of the characters you play. What is boring about just switching characters for different things that you both enjoy
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>>165804775
>is literally the best possible to way to play
fun is subjective. what you're talking about sounds like a second job
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>>165805278
Show me your build that can farm as fast as a dedicated currency farmer like vaal spark
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just thought of a gamebreaking CI BV build
don't tell reddit
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best skills for raider? preferably not blade flurry or howa spectral throw?
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>>165806335
bladeflurry
>b-b-but preferably not
it is the best skill
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>>165806224

>farming currency
>vspark

have you heard of uber lab?

LOL
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>>165806335
blade vortex
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>>165806335
flicker strike
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>>165806224
>muh dedicated chaos recipe dried lake farmer
fuck off steyox
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>>165806737
fucking Regals man. I dont even do the recipe anymore.
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>>165806385
>steyox will never post his currency tab to shut dumb bitches like this guy up
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>>165806385
>>165806737
>they don't know how to properly farm currency in maps


Sucks to be you
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Startin fresh boyos on HC breach boyos

Do I go inquisitor flame blast build, or witch firestorm? Hear a lot of conflicting info about which is better.
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>>165807123
explain how to still get chaos and not regals.
Do you need only 1 low item in the recipe to make a chaos?
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>>165807105
dried lake grunts like you are the real driving force of the economy

maybe one day you'll learn to make a decent build that doesn't need to switch for bosses LOL
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Speaking of chaos recipe, rings/belts/amulets are the limiting factor in completing chaos recipes. Do you guys ID all your gear and then settle for the 1C version, or do you keep it all unidentified and vendor for 2C.

I always feel that Im going to Vendor a 20C ring or amulet when in reality, 99.9% of them are junk and i could have made 20C by now.
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TURN ON ORIATH NEWS NETWORK RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY SAY A THAUMATURGIST IS WREAKING HAVOC ON OUR SHORES
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>>165807331
>>165807306
>>165807260
>they REALLY don't know
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>2017
>chaos recipe
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>>165806323
haha ebin, surely no one has thought of this before
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>>165807429
explain
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>>165794778
Yes let's just jack off in a circle with the catposter and discordfags, that will make a good general
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>>165807225
Always go firestorm for a fresh start m8e. They are both good, but firestorm clears like a motherfucker while leveling.
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>>165807643
>he le doesn't le know
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>>165807429
1 shitpost = 1 less dried lake cleared
back to work, grunt
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lmao when you dont farm shaped strand all day with vspark selling all the shit you get/huge amount of excess maps while getting nice exp
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>>165807225

Firestorm melts everything so fucking fast, it's probably one of the best starter skills. Link it as soon as you can with CwC and Fire pen and that's all you need.
Before you get CwC, manual cast and use flame totem.
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>his build can't do all map mods in t15s in HC
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>>165808048
>So poor you have to stick to one build that is mediocre at bossing/clearing
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>>165807225
I think most of the debate is about which clears bosses faster.

I've seen flameblast obliterate high end bosses so fucking quick, but firestorm clears maps faster, though I'm not entirely certain.
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>>165807965
I tried the CwC Firestorm meme and even though the single target is absurd, clear speed is subpar and Wither's tendency to lock down on target is really aggravating

would not recommend unless you enjoy being a boss killer and a subpar map clearer
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>>165808048
>he makes up arbitrary rules to make his """"build""" end up being good

I'm sure your 15 minute t15 clears with your epic build is nice but I'd rather do them 3 times as quick and roll over the occasional bad mod :^)
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>>165807886
>he seriously thinks it's dried lake

Wow, really? Think bigger. Think 30c per 5 minutes.
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>>165808171
>firestorm clears maps faster

what the FUCK are you talking about
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>>165808304
>braindead vspark autist has to make up numbers to feel better about himself
>b-b-b-but I c-can clear shaped s-s-strands really fast g-g-g-guys
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turdbirds couldn't design a good build if they're'reare lives depended on it
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>>165808276
You use it to get into the mid 70s without any gear or major keystones. You can build the backbone of the skill tree and then transition to the build you actually want to play while only needing to refund 7 or 8 points.
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>>165808419
what the fuck are YOU talking about
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>>165808615
>being this fucking clueless
>>
Give me one good reason I should run vaal souls cuck build over master race cospri's discharge
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>>165808689
>being this fucking clueless
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>>165808690
lick your lips and tell us how bakedchicken's ass tastes like
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>>165808690
Faster Shaped Dunes runs
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i died
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>>165808690
Just got to 74 with my cospri discharge and honestly there is no reason to ever run anything else ever again.
Shit's even a bit boring because too easy and my build isn't even done yet.
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>>165808792
kys retard
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>>165808958
>single target
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>>165808994
kys retard
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>My templar that I sunk the better half of the weekend into gets fucked by Act 4 Piety
>I can't dance by Genesis was on during the whole fight thanks to Spotify
>Witch I tried to play immediately dies after I quicksilvered into a horde of enemies
>Don't know trades well enough to jew some fucker out of gear so I can actually get somewhere with leveling

I CAN'T DANCE
I CAN'T TALK
THE ONLY THING ABOUT ME IS THE WAY I WALK
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flaccidcore should be deleted
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catposter should be deleted
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>>165809263
it's fine, their characters do everytime they can't press their macro fast enough
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>>165809180
did you try to do a4 merc piety still on cruel leveling gear or wat
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>>165809623
No, it's just that I'm a dumbass who made an improv build because I couldn't find any builds that seemed fun (It was templar ice nova). Fucking shoot me already, I just want a build that's viable and doesn't put me to sleep and doesn't cost both of my kidneys.
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>>165809739
elemental EQ :)
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>>165809794
Mind giving me a link to a guide for it if there is one? This general probably won't be up by the time I wake up so it'd be convenient to have it bookmarked
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>>165809137
>kill merc izaro at level68 too fast so he doesnt get all the power charges
>m-muh single target

And like I said, my build isn't even done yet. I'm sure things will change in higher tier maps etc but I was talking about my experiences so far you illiterate goober.
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rate my tanky ci bv poison build
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0/10
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>>165810530
Wow that's a nice build definitely hillock-viable
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>>165810530
nice
gonna play that next league
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>>165810530
thought of it first, back off loser
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can someone help me with my ci fireball build
poeurl.com/0vh
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>>165812203
get more cast speed

take out fireball and put flameblast in there
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>>165812203
looks good, give it a run at shaper and report back
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>>165812203
>poeplanner

it's shit
>>
more like pooplanner
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>>165812203
is this a joke
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>fireball
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>>165805157
>I assume you lose all your atlas bonus if you unshape?

you lose the 1% completion bonus for each map that you uncomplete.

for example, i completed all t1-t10 maps, then did the t11/12/13/14/15 maps that give shapers orbs and uncompleted them right after.
now when i am inside a shaped map, all red maps that drop will be one of the following:
>shaped strand
>shaped arachnid tomb
>shaped tropical island
>shaped reef
>shaped quay

and i still have a 74% atlas bonus going
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fireball is good you fucking retards
the AOE overlap is amazing for pseudoshotgunning and clearing maps
single target damage is insane with double dip

you're all just dumb
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>>165812982
>fireball is good you fucking retards
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>single target damage is insane
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>>165812203
Do you eat shit?
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>>165814048
wow I was just trying to have some fun .....
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>>165815008

Don't ever ask /poeg/ for entire build advise.
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Rate my templar leap-sweeper build:

poeurl.com/0vs

Scorching Ray totem for added single target damage
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rate my garbage eating build lads

poeurl.com/8===D
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meat == garbage

fucking go vegan right now, poeg
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Are all softcucks vegan?
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Any of you ""people"" know if totems being hit while wearing that xoph ammy, results in "monsters" getting covered in ash?
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>>165815867
Haha, that fucking pic. Yeah and how much fucking broccoli do you need to eat to get 100cal?
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>>165815867

>I'd have to eat 6kg or 10 bunches of broccoli a day to get recommended daily intake of 2000cal
>or i could eat 700g of beef

Fuck vegans are retarded.
>>
shadow ice spear build where you convert ice -> fire -> chaos + poison and then stack so much crit multi together with power charges you basically have 100% crit on a budget and crit 500% dmg

I think you could easily get 200k dps like this on a 5 link
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>>165819038
or you could use firestorm, gain a ring slot and instagib shaper
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>>165805117
i suggest using poeaffix and the wiki to figure out for yourself more about crafting
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>>165806335
cyclone
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>>165805117
remove cast speed, craft block chance, exalt twice, remove block chance, craft whatever you want. do NOT go for the 3rd suffix exalt
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Official Armor Tier List:
>Fuck everything, I have ES tier
Vaal Regalia
>God Tier
Shavronne's Wrappings
The Perfect Form
Kintsugi
Belly of the Beast
Vaal Pact Skin of the Lords
>Decent Tier
Kaom's Heart
Cospri's Will
+2 Skin of the Loyal
Carcass Jack
>Outdated Tier
Lightning Coil
Cloak of Defiance
>Meme Build Tier
Cloak of Tawm'r Isley
Queen of the Forest
The Rat Cage
Voll's Protector
>Too Poor For Good Gear Tier
Atziri's Splendour
Astral Plate
Tabula Rasa
>Hall of the Grandmasters Tier
The Brass Dome
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>>165820318
Where's Cherrubim?
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>>165820401
Everything not listed is in dumpster tier.
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PoeDB says Minotaur has 2.8m life but with a 3400% life modifier. Is the 3400% already factored in or does he actually have 96m life?
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Did I just make an extremely good deal? 70 IIR with just that ring and Chayula
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>>165820686
96m sounds a little high since supposedly shaper has 304m and I don't think minotaur with life map mod is half of shaper, but don't trust PoeDBs numbers for anything.
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IIR is a fucking noobtrap
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>>165820818
how so
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Reminder
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>>165820757
Shaper shows up as 4.26m life on poedb, with 4800% life modifier.
My build has about 300k DPS. That would mean I either kill shaper from full in 14.2 seconds, or 11 straight minutes of hitting him. Neither sounds right.
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>>165820847
Because quantity multiplies your chances at getting items in the game and rarity does almost nothing

100 items drop, 100% rarity gives you 80 shitty white items and a few magic/rare items
100 items drop, 100% quantity literally gives you 100% more items, every item that drops is 1 chance at getting a good unique actually worth something
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>>165822089
I don't think it works quite that way, besides it's not like I sacrifice a lot for that IIR, it's just extra
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>>165714845
decided to try this before buying D3 on special, will probably stick with this, it's more comprehensive and new feeling
anyway, just out of curiosity, not that it matters to me, but what is the best character etc right now?
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>>165822556
Depends on what you want to do. A great all-rounder is HoWA Raider
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>>165822556
What's the point of that question? the best "character" is not going to be cheap, so you should rather be asking what's the cheapest "character" that works decently well from level 1 to 8
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>>165822345
I think that's exactly how it works. Try to roll a strongbox with +2000% IIR and watch what comes out.
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why the fuck can I do cruel lab when I haven't done all the cruel trials?????
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very proud of my self-crafted armour/es hybrid shield
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>>165823239
you only have to do them 1 time per league and then your other characters can do it without doing all the trials
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>>165822716
>What's the point of that question?

>just out of curiosity
>not that it matters to me

>>165822618
thanks. i was wondering if it would be a witch based around minions. that's the character i started with and raging skulls were fucking shit up constantly. not that i think the entire game is dictated by what happens early, i just thought it'd be consistently great if not broken.
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>>165823467
srs is easily end game viable
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>>165823518
what about

a duelist with a bow and arrow
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>>165823575
sure
if you know what you're doing
slayers/champions make great archers
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>>165823575
Anything works ascendancies and class picks only change a small amount of the gameplay, obviously some are stronger and work better than others

duelist with a bow works because you can get fortify and take 20% less damage all the time and bow builds are generally squishy so it's a good defensive ascendancy


Figuring out your "own build" and trying shit out that you've seen and mixing it in different ways with ideas you had is like 80% of the fun in PoE, even more so if it actually works
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>>165822868
IIR is more useful to upgrade drops from rares/uniques which happen to have a better loot table

using the example of strongboxes is kinda misleading/irrelevant since those have their own loot table and most likely reduced rarity or higher breakpoints needed to drop uniques

anyway game experience confirms that having between 100-200 IIR significantly increases your returns per hour, hardly a topic of speculation
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>>165823840
>mixing it in different ways with ideas you had is like 80% of the fun in PoE
Yeah if you like to rip and suck
>>
>IIR

poopigeons out
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>mfw enjoying the game on softcore as i lag around on 300 ping with my dreamfeather build
how much fun do you have on hardcore when you're lagging?
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>>165824617
Every build I've made has been able to clear t16s

Don't project your own shit build choices on me buddy, git gud
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>>165824883
>that one voidhome retard
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>>165823347
ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccckkkkkkk

thats great but jesus I wish I knew it sooner
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are they doing another demi race between leagues? i want to win another demi
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show me your rank 18 demi again
>>
Had some decent drops on my shield charge facebreaker slayer in BHC. I just hit 80 and I'm not sure how to go about getting some good steel rings. Should I

a) buy white bases and deafening essence of contempt spam them
b) buy white bases and chaos spam them
c) buy prerolled ones
d) just keep farming with my current shit until i can afford a disfavour and switch to cyclone
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>>165714845
why the fuck are cruel breaches such a fucking pain.

Ive lost like 5 characters to breaches in cruel difficulty, despite being rescapped and able to dominate any level of mobs outside of a breach.

My latest build was fucking meta as all hell HoWA spec throw and it was faster than anything ive done. But i stepped into a cruel breach after doing 3-4 before without a problem and got blasted and died within 2 seconds.

They vary so much in difficulty its a fucking pain in the ass. Gonna maybe start doing BSC, idk.
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>>165825303
is slayer the best for sheildcharge? im looking to make a build of it but also want to make a berserker/juggernaut because ive never actually made an end game marauder
>>
c) buy prerolled ones

crafting rings yourself is utter nonsense
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>>165818058
its not even complete protein so their brain starts to die from that
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>>165825175
>I never got to race for free mirrors in any league I wanted
>I never got to play diablo 3 on launch with all the hype when it was hard
>I never got to play PoE when it was hard
>Kripp will only ever play snorestone
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>>165825484

there aren't any with deafening phys rolls available

though that leads me to believe that nobody bothers crafting them as such, am i correct in assuming that? i guess 9-15 isn't that different from 12-17

>>165825481

not sure if it's the best but i've really been enjoying it, it has extra move/attack speed, extra aoe, and crazy leech potential. I leech 48% of my life per second so even though my life is pretty low the sustain is incredible. I also have a shit connection and I probably shouldn't be playing HC but the leech effects (as well as the 'leech is not removed at full life' node) have kept me alive so far.
>>
Blade Flurry so meta it's making its apparition in HotS...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oD8DrPANfw
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>>165825981
this bitch has some HUGE yonkers
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>>165825981
thats a real slutty outfit LOL
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>>165825479
dont touch breaches then retard
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>>165825981
>Nightmare skin Scion
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>>165825981
disgusting image delete it immediately

poeg is a wholesome respectable general
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>>165826174
it's a warrior outfit designed to let the body move freely you nerd
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>>165826334
its a slut outfit designed to show off her slut skin
>>
>>165826334
why is wow so fucking edgy
literally edgy
>>
Does blessing a breach unique reroll sockets/links too, or just the stats on the item?
>>
>>165825481
imo slayer is best for most facebreaker builds because the aoe is great and, since FB has really high damage / less atk speed the overkill leech is more effective... or atleast thats my rationale, berserker is ok aswell (i've played both)
>>
>>165825481
slayer is non optional if you're going to selfcast with facebreakers. It's way too easy to accidentally oneshot yourself to reflect without it.
>>
>>165826754
everything
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>>165827138
so how about shieldcharge without FB? is that viable and not expensive? i saw the discharge shieldcharge by that asian dude but i dont have 15 exalts to throw at the base build
looked fun as fuck tho
>>
>>165827386
No, because that build is about the gear not the skill. You have to go assassin for cospri's discharge.
>>
Is it possible to make a viable non-discharge mjolner build after the nerfs?
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>>165827978
nah but i mean is there non facebreaker shieldcharge builds that arent shit? i assmue there is but comparatively is it better to just go facebreaker
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I just killed my third Lvl90 this week
Somebody post a good animate weapons build for me to cheese the content.
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>>165743708
A friend of mine reached 90 on BHC with Oro Flicker, he has a 6L and a Kaoms Heart though
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>>165828556
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>>165828556
poeurl.com/0wt

hre you go n00B
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>>165828556
Kripp secret build
>>
I want a caster that does relatively fast speed projectiles that is good at killing endgame bosses

I wanna feel like I'm shooting massive rockets at bosses rather than puny little arrows that chip damage in single target

Best thing I've come up with is fireball and that ring that lets you ignite 300 times but you can't do crits with it so that kind of ruins my whole "hits hard per hit" thing

I also don't want a channeling skill

H E L P
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>>165828878
No CwC?
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>>165828878
only spell that hits hard is flameblast which is also not a projectile

projectiles arent allowed to hit hard because GMP exists
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>>165829164
>talk about 2.5.2
>"next week"
>2.5.2 patch notes
>"patch later this week"

is it because they are desperate to update the site every day?
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do i upgrade the anticipation that dropped or just sell the cunt
is there any gud builds besides the secretkrippbuiold
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>>165812856
just woke up. thanks for the explanation.
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>>165829842
wait, are you actually playing poe? haha wow
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>spend 2 hours decorating my hideout
I can't stop now, I actually need to do more Master's missions.
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>>165760984
Alchs and some alts.
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dreamfeather raider vs lacerate slayer with Starforge. who can i take further
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Is lacerate better than reave? They look very similar to me
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>tfw I have no idea what Lacerate does since I used it once when it came out and thought "looks boring" like 80% of the melee skills
I should really take a look at all the gems again
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Post them.

Also yes Zana is still 6, started a bit late.
I saw some way more comfier than mine while trading but I'm waiting on the large one to really go all out, what about you guys?
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>>165833038
you can't use reave with axes or 2h weapons. lacerate doesn't have something like vaal reave so in order to be pseudoranged you need fuckloads of aoe meaning going slayer or using dying sun, but that also means you don't have another vaal skill eating up your souls and you don't have the pressure to keep your reave up so that you can actually pick up shit on the ground
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>>165833351
I will conquer Wraeclast the Karui way
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>>165833618
nice
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who /leveltomercilessdriedlakethenstartanewbuild/ here?
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What are the current meta builds
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>>165834285
So none of your chars has more than 8 hours of playtime?
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>>165831984
Starforge is a terrible weapon
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how do i see how much playtime i have?
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I want to lick the witch's thighs.
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>>165834408
howa

>>165834540
/played
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Let's say I have a high chance of causing bleed with attacks
If I run a block build with both riposte and reckoning I should be able to keep 100% bleed uptime on most targets and it would be worth it to support my main damage skill with bloodlust, wouldn't it?
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>>165834664
howa is outdated this late in the league, LL cwc chaosstorm shits all over it
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>>165834664
>1 day 3 hours 20 min
>level 50
thats pretty bad right?
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>>165834734
lvl 80 generally takes 12hours
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>>165834709
It might, but he was asking what is meta and I am pretty sure howa is the most popular build right now.
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>>165834734
yes
I am 50 and on 6h eventhough I afked a lot
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What are the best Berserker and Juggernaut builds right now
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>>165833618
>all the babies are white
your seed is weak and you will not survive this winter, cuck
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>>165835072
this
i want to know also
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>>165835072
righteous fire
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>>165835072
BV
EQ
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>>165834709
HoWaA is still the combination of everything that is meta right now
>A Unique that enebles you to build both Offense/Deffense while abusing VP/GS with conversion flash while moving fast
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>>165835779
>best builds are still boring as fuck
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>>165836251
That's how First Order Optimal Strategy works
Best results for least effort
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>>165833351
Who could ever be bothered grinding favour more than once, god damn
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Iron reflexes, grace dual totem inquistor, good idea or retarded?
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>>165835779
BV berserker? What
Also EQ fucking sucks in todays meta
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>>165835078
If anything, he's the opposite of a cuck
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>>165833362
How about this build pham? Reave with multistrike-bloodlust-increased area (or added fire, still on the fence about the gem choice) in a bringer of rain, anvil amulet, surrender shield
1-h sword with vagan's on-hit bleed crafted mod socketed with reckoning and riposte supported with increased duration (if it prolongs bleed duration like it think it will)
Typical aura/CWDT setup on boots and gloves
Planning a gladiator with this tree:
http://www.poeplanner.com/AAQAAOUkAwBwuR0V7Irw6UbKkITZR369NmVNvqcvzMGCTUZi7ITv2sF07QUtQzFM_9ZY4J8FZm8nmmp670CgwL-plQz3rK8blzJOj5kEh14T705hUpOoirNXVIZgOlK8nxiR_EsUTQ48FHHZfIIH8kHSIZ7N6dV5OX7iGj5fPxQg7w5QR-RRl3koKotP9kiMzz38WGPG2K2Nz352rGebrj7Grgthr2xo8vAfogAEs8BmPAXvfJ_fPC2DzLc-_grYvfJFOuHqGPjr9zJ82XKprKpZ8xo4kFUnLwaLIOOS9_gCX9oKJg5DzV8AAAAAAA==
Opinions?
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>>165836801
retarded
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>>165836935
>all his womens children arent his
>not a cuck
lmao
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>>165834810
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>>165837123
He's tanned, not black.
I would never play a black
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>>165837262
Karui are literally the niggers in PoE you have to be retarded to not notice that
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>>165837292
>notice
I REFUSE that fact.
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>>165837061
>1h sword
Blade Flurry is objectively better in every single way. Alkaizer had a pretty good 1h sword gladiator, you might want to check that out. Decide for yourself whether you still want to go Lacerate or just use Blade Flurry.
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>>165837262
>>165837376
>ooga booga where my ancestor spirits at
>we wuz conquerors and shiiet
>not niggers
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>>165837481
Actually wanted reave rather than lacerate, but I'll check it anyway
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>>165837698
Dont forget that they killed each other and blamed the whites
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>there will never be a good starforge build
feels bad man
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>>165837701
well the tree and gear should pretty much be the same, just try and see for yourself which one you like the most.
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>>165837916
what makes it bad? the fact that theres axes that are better? what would make it better?
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>>165837916
warchief totems noobshit

the only problem is it can't do phys reflect
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map

>>165838321
>>165838321
>>165838321
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>>165837061
Overmatch and Outlast is shit, if you plan on making everything bleed get Gratuitous Violence instead.

Also, consider Dirty Techinques, it's like a free Poison if you make everything bleed.
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>>165820318
Shavs and regalia need to be in the same tier desu
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