PlayStation Vita General 2895 - Everyones Favourite Edition

Is anything as lewd as DT2 then?

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>>165656689

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Finally here. It really is big

>>165656689
DT2-2 will probably be even leader.

>>165656903
Cute. Personally I wouldn't have much use for these but boy do they look nice.

Reminder that Mosh belongs to /wowsg/ now.

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>>165656903
And the other one

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100%

>>165657078
Congratulations.

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>>165656492
Requesting Alice greentext

>>165657036
>>165656903
nice anon
How much?

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http://www.4gamer.net/games/354/G035400/20170112058/

>>165656903
Nice.

Yeah, they're quite big. I don't know about yours, but the Meruru one I had was quite heavy and I needed sturdier hooks.

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>>165657190
Forgot to mention that it's Blue Reflection:
http://www.4gamer.net/games/354/G035400/20170112058/

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Jannuary!

>>165657296
That looks like a yugioh card

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Bit of a long shot question, but anyone know where to farm B+ type blood in Mary Skelter postgame? Only place I can find is lower tower, which is bad because enemies there give almost no EXP. Would prefer to farm xp/blood simultaneously.

Tried 2ch archives but most of them were complaining about A type, not B+

>>165656689
Hot shot golf

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>>165657423
I guess there's some similarity.

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And with that Ciel Nosurge youtube translation is finished. What a ride has it been. Now I can start my second Ar Nosurge playtrough in peace on PS3

>>165657153
6k yen each. Kinda expensive, but they're like twice as large as the standard shop bonus B2 tapestries (these ones are slightly larger than B1), and the material is thicker and is just better made overall.

>>165657190
Yep, the materials are thicker and much heavier than the typical tapestry. I haven't hanged them yet, I need to get new hooks first.

>>165657552
Have you platted the vita version already?

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>>165657847
No but I only had a digital copy of the game and I really wanted a physical copy once I beat the game. And my local gamestop had a single copy of the game so of course I had to get it.

Speaking of platting it, I might go for it this time.

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Im the new PS Vita owner from the last thread asking about games.

is there any must have PS Vita accessories to make things better?

thanks

>>165657534
It might be just me
I play too much yugioh yesterday with a friend

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>>165658082
PS3 version is missing some nice bathtalks though, hopefully you at least got those with the Vita version. I platted both, enjoyed my time with it.

The cimmerian queen armor looks pretty nice, has a bit of a yakuza feel going on.

>>165656689
titty ninjas, vlakyrie drives, neps, countless other weeb shit

>>165658261
Just a memory card, I guess. Also, screen protectors and such

>>165658261
I just have a carrying case and that's pretty much it. Some people put screen protectors which may be wise, I don't have one and nothing has happened in these little bit over 3 years but if you aren't as lazy as I am it would probably be better to have one.

>>165656903
On second play through the game really sucks.

>>165658261
snap on cover helps, can be found on amazon, just double check its for the vita version you have.

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Looks nice.

>>165656492

Why is vita so dead aside from weeb games ?

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but but Vita has no game

>>165659813
why would you want anything else?

>>165657121
thanks anon

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>>165659847

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Don't mind me. Just posting Ciel songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it4ayQsp_HA&index=20&list=PLKQSvEEtzf4MUuHgmdLmg7JdFwzpR8h5x

>>165660101
Thanks, but please don't blow up the file limit too much with it if you're going to post many.

Why are we still here

>>165660101
So good

>>165659981
How many of those have you played?

>>165660254
I'm here to suffer
Every day

>>165657534
>>165657296
I want this game right now

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http://www.famitsu.com/news/201701/16124676.html

A handful of Death Mark pics and an interview.

Part of it:
>For business' sake, want to try new genres and possibly turn them into one of the pillars.
>Also trying to find new fans.
>Chose horror since CEO+director like it.
>Originally not a horror game but some kind of RPG so that core users are more likely to enjoy it.
>They felt that it's harder for RPGs to be scary if it involves defeating the monsters, so they changed it to the current form.

>Death Mark is 2D, like the older adventure games, but with a small system attached.
>They want it to be scary, though there are some discussion as to what kind and how to execute it.
>Although there are scenarios, it's more of an exploration type of game.
>i.e. going around searching for clues and information to solve the current problem, as well as some thinking to handle situations.

>>165660635
Cool

>>165660345

not mine, some guy just posted it on the vita subreddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/vita/comments/5o3juj/once_i_presented_the_vita_tower_today_its_time/

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I didn't expect FD to hit me with feels
I'm sorry Hal, RIP

>>165661012
Nigga at least get the name right.

>>165660254

>>165657296
I dislike the Atelier games but liked NoA and am looking forward to this.

Little iffy on the next NoA game though. The first one wrapped up so perfectly.

>>165661097
>I dislike the Atelier games

Please tell you are basing that off Arland/Dusk games and not the new ones because the new games a 100% shit.

>>165661212
Sophie is terrible.

>>165661212
Sophie was very decent and Firis was great
>EOPs

>>165657414
Stop.

>>165661574
>Firis was great
I only saw people saying that firis was shit

>>165661774
It had a lot of bugs at launch which was pretty shitty, but the actual designs and gameplay were great.
Not that it matters since it's going to be ruined by the taint of pcfags either way.

>>165661884
>ruined by the taint of pcfags either way
pcfags didn't ruined disgaea
You should have hope

sleep everyday

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>>165662429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUnYmxbsurI

What's the heaviest armor line in toukiden? Is it the maledictaur line?

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>>165661574
Sorry bro, played all post Arland Atelier games on japanese release date, Sophie was so bad I never even bought Firis. Also calling anyone that disagress with you an "EOP" gives Japanese Only Players a rep, please stop.

Sophie is dog shit, deal with it. Killed the series catering to casuals.

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http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/155820676800/fateextella-the-umbral-star-choose-your

>Nebuchadnezzar II
10/10

>>165662913
>didn't actually play it
>literally blinded by nostalgia
>thinks atelier was never not the same level of casual
I bet this guy can't even beat evilking on despair WWWWW

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>>165661774
That's because it's true, story is bad and the gameplay was buggy, ps4 ruined ateliers, instead of focusing on good characters and good gameplay they focused on visuals and now the games look like shit and play like shit. Worst of both worlds.

Atelier died when they went 3d for the story scenes. At least the fixed the crashes. I don't think I crashed even once on Sophie.

>>165663121
Why would I buy Firis if I hated Sophie? Also after reading reviews I told myself I'd wait for a sale.

>>165663167
Didn't you just straight up just admit that you never bought it

>>165662913
>Japanese Only Players
JOPs for short

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>>165662429

No time for sleep.

>>165663280
Watched all the story scenes on youtube, and read the reviews of the gameplay. To be fair this was near launch I have no idea if they fixed the gameplay which was soo buggy. The story is pretty bad particularity how Sophie was kinda just jammed into the story, when she is an irrelevant character even in her own story, Prafta is the real hero.

>>165662913
>thinking arland was ever not casual with relatively one-dimensional alchemy and completely one-dimensional three-member combat
High difficulty Sophie/Firis combat takes a hell of a lot more strategy than Totori. I'm starting to think you never played it to begin with, or are a blatant nostalgiafaggot.
>>165663538
>b-but I watched youtube videos with a TOTALLY non-biased viewpoint that was totally not skewed

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>>165663379
I don't like using JOP/EOP they are intentionally inflammatory words and I'd rather people not thing I'm one of those people that like to spoil games or look down on others just because I wanted 3 years of my life learning a dead language because I have no friends.

>>165663657
Fuck I can't type for shit today

think/wasted

>>165663657
My daughter Totori is so gay!

i miss you guys

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I love you Vitagen

>>165664078
I miss you too anon

>>165660254
I just can't pull the trigger. Metaphorically and literally.

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Greetings from /wowsg/. Remember to kill Mosh, threaten Moshs life and to report Mosh.

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>>165660254
I like it here

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>>165664659
I don't get it.

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>>165664456
don't do that anon please, vitagen needs you

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>>165663630
You can keep liking the game if you want, they are still really bad -compared- to Arland and even Dusk is better.

>Arland and Dusk have better characters
Rorona/Totori > Sophie/Firis

>better gameplay
Time limits keep the game from becoming a grind fest, Alchemy costing time and Mana actually mattered, more endings and ways to get stuck on a bad end

>better music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcc16o0SaY
https://youtu.be/Qrc8XeHvwmc?list=PLZXn6gckEbBxWXj4MZhCzB1pwtIudKmK3
https://youtu.be/wqEPqp0FqNU?list=PL258Gqv0lYXkWA0X9m7OixggQt7QkXPOL

>better visuals and character design, and artistic direction
Kishida and Hidari vs porn artist and a literally who
Areas ranging from plains to the ruin of ancient civilizations

>More at stake in the story.
Beloved Atelier being closed down due to government regulations, need to get my ass in gear or I'll get shut down by an oppressive anti small business government

Going to become an adventurer to find my long lost mother, need to get my ass in gear or she will fucking die!

My backwater kingdom is in crisis, and I need to get my ass in gear or my family's dynasty will collapse.

vs

I like helping people and nothing bad will ever happen, ever.

In what way if any is Mystery better than Arland or Dusk?

>>165665290
>Maria
To be fair, Maria is, hands down, the best Gust song ever

>>165658261
I'd highly recommend you get a wrist strap and a screen protector.

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>>165658261
I just use either a matte or oleophobic screen protector. You can get grips I guess, but they just feel worse to me. I have a metal shell if I ever need to just toss it into a bag or something, but I typically just let it be naked.

Maybe get one of those pisen usb adapters so you can charge from more devices (e.g. generic wall chargers).

>>165665290
>they are still really bad -compared- to Arland and even Dusk is better.
How are they bad compared to Arland? They're objectively better in every way.
I could see the argument for certain dusk games with intuitive alchemy, combat, and even atmosphere in ayesha's case, but arland? That's just nostalgia bullshit.

I never mentioned music you insecure twat. I'll agree that Sophie's ost was totally forgettable save for Liela Xea, but you've already gone and done some cherry picking of your own so it might as well be just as good.

>>better visuals and character design, and artistic direction
Literally subjective for the most part. I'd agree with Dusk's art with landscapes and the like being far superior but again, Arland has jack shit to offer. Even more one dimensional characters and areas with dated assets and uninspired inconsistent artistic direction.

>>More at stake in the story.
Holy shit you're dense, the entire well-being of the world was at stake in Sophie, did you even pay attention?

I'm curious as to how many people have played any Atelier game older than the Iris series

>>165665923
>How are they bad compared to Arland? They're objectively better in every way.
Expect all the ways I listed?

>>165665923
>I never mentioned music you insecure twat.
Because it's shit in Sophie

>>165665923
>cherry picking
Sorry those games have amazing tracks?

>>165665923
>Literally subjective for the most part.
Sophie's characters are over designed man, and the artistic direction is split and conflicts hard.

>>165665923
>Holy shit you're dense, the entire well-being of the world was at stake in Sophie

Does the world actually end if you don't get your ass in gear? No. Does Totori's mom actually die if you don't get your ass in gear? YES!

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>>165665923
>>165666250

>>165665923
>Holy shit you're dense, the entire well-being of the world was at stake in Sophie, did you even pay attention?
Nothing ever felt in important in Sophie. It was a huge slog with no real motivation, even story wise for all the time I put into it until dropping it. Maybe the story picked up dozens and dozens of hours in, but I am not going to play a game that is a snooze-fest for 40 hours to only get good in the final act.

NoA, let you know shit was going bad right from the start, just for comparisson.

>>165660996
Does anyone but a couple reddit posters actually have and play all those Vita games?

>>165666537
Sorry but when I see people compare Mystery to good atelier games it makes me angry because i had SUCH HIGH expectations for the games. Instead what I got was happy go lucky nothing ever goes wrong causal games. To be fair that started in Dusk, where if you don't save Nio, Keith just Deus Ex Machina saves her. It got progresively worse, to the point where Mystery has nothing driving you forward.

Part of the greatness of Arland was the very sad and emotional bad ends, it MADE you want to see the good end. It MADE you want to get better.

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>>165666250
>Expect all the ways I listed?
>Expect
That aside, how about all of the reasons I listed? The combat, alchemy, graphics, and characters being overall improved?

>Because it's shit in Sophie
I literally agree overall, but you're only cherry picking the best examples to compare to the worst

>>cherry picking
>Sorry those games have amazing tracks?
Most of those games had, what, one or two amazing tracks? Ayesha I can understand but Totori? That's rich.

>Sophie's characters are over designed man, and the artistic direction is split and conflicts hard.
I can understand the conflicting artstyles but overdesigned? It's not like Arland didn't have the same kind of overdesign when it comes to characters, look at this shit.
>b-but the characters have actual development instead of being one-dimensional anime gimmick characters that means they're overdesigned right?

And nice to see you're admitting you never payed attention to sophie's overall plot and "more at stake". Of course there's no gameplay ramifications to failing because time-based restrictions were retarded and archaic, but failing story-wise would be catastrophic.

>>165666902
Your expectations are unattainable because you're blinded by nostalgia and unwilling to accept anything objectively, and can only manifest your criticisms in "but it's not edgy so it must be bad :(("
To add, the time limtied endings in arland-dusk in particular are archaic and tedious for the sake of actually finishing the fucking game.

why did they make oscar skinny

So for all you mad about Disgaea on Switch, it's confirmed for 720p/30 fps with frame drops by DigitalFoundry. So don't worry about it.

>>165667476
Not really. Disgaea kind of sucks (I never liked it at least) and it's bound to happen since Sony has given up on vita.

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>>165666902
People like different things. You're both arguing your subjective opinions so you'll never convince the other that you're right.
I liked the Dusk games the most, and the Arland games the least though I still liked them all. I don't go around saying that series of them is bad since I happened to like it the least because people enjoy different things about them, and forcing my opinions on others won't change anything. It's okay that others think differently.

>>165667476
No, I don't actually care if games get ported. If it gets more money to devs to make more games, good for them. I just enjoy playing games on my vita, man.

>>165667476
To be honest, I haven't really cared about Disgaea since 2. The newer mains were all just memes. 4 had potential but the sardine thing killed it. I have played 5 because 3 and 4 killed my interest in the series so I can't tell if it is a meme-fest too or not.

>>165667740
>I just enjoy playing games on my vita, man.
Then it's quite the shame you won't be getting any more developed for it :^)

>>165667450
Such a shame, his original design was fantastic.

>>165667869
I have a backlog for another year, so you don't really need to worry about me Anon.

>>165667450
Who wants to see an Oscar in his blubber?

>>165667843
>The combat is more flashy but it's not in any way deeper, E&L has better combat.
E&L boils down to the same cookie cutter combination of support attacks during an attack, those of which barely even matter in the first place because double draw is where literally 90% of all your damage comes from. It's not deep nor does it have any amount of situational planning or strategy that mystery does.

The elemental system in mystery is pretty gimmicky and gets old I'll give you that much, but it's a lot more in-depth and interesting than power pour to win dusk or literally-one-dimensional-nothing-to-it arland
>Dusk relied too much on hidden items, but once you know where they are you can get ultimate gear in no time.
Same thing happened in Arland with the broken as shit soul properties. And Ayesha didn't particularly have broken properties to begin with and relied on conventional property planning, which was exceptionally difficult because of the convoluted property transferring system. Sophie sort of featured this sort of thing with the loads of required property combining, but a lot more simply than Ayesha.

>I felt Sophie's alchemy was too time gated
If you mean the actual progression of the system throughout the game I can agree, not being able to transfer more than one property until a certain point was a hindrance. But it's not like the same problem didn't persist in pretty much every atelier game, especially in Dusk.

Nostalgia faggot

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>>165668326
Yes. He was top cute.

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Ar/Ciel wallpapers are hard to come by so I thought I'd post one I made here if anyone is interested

>>165668532
Honestly, he was disgusting, and I don't even dislike fat characters in general.

Am I supposed to be grinding for more dive points or what? I don't even have enough to finish Sarly's first genometrics, let alone look at Zill's.

>>165667441
>The combat, alchemy, graphics, and characters being overall improved?
The combat is more flashy but it's not in any way deeper, E&L has better combat.

I felt the alchemy was fun at first but then when I understood how it worked it was actually overly simply. I felt Dusk's Alchemy system was better, and Arland had the better ways to find effects and traits, Dusk relied too much on hidden items, but once you know where they are you can get ultimate gear in no time.

I felt Sophie's alchemy was too time gated as well, it was fun, but I think it was only fun to find out how the alchemy worked but once you figure it out it's kinda simple.

>>165667441
>Most of those games had, what, one or two amazing tracks? Ayesha I can understand but Totori? That's rich.
I disagree, I think Shallie/Meruru had a VERY rich ost, Shallie is the ost I use in Sophie now after my first play through.

>I can understand the conflicting artstyles but overdesigned? It's not like Arland didn't have the same kind of overdesign when it comes to characters, look at this shit.

Sorry but if you look at Prafta, Julio, Monica and Leon, they just look retarded side by side to Sophie, Oskar, and Elise (who actually look like they wear what their occupations call for.) Again comes down to conflicting art styles, when one character dress like classic Sophie then you get something like Monica and the weird shit she has on her arm, it makes it feel like the characters should be in difference games.

>>165667441
>Of course there's no gameplay ramifications to failing because time-based restrictions were retarded and archaic, but failing story-wise would be catastrophic.

That is my point. There should be ramifications, Atelier have always had bad ends. The world does not have to end, you can just have Prafta sacrifice herself for something. If there are no ramifications for being bad then their is nothing at stake. Where as if you dick around in Totori, Totori's mom fucking dies.

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>>165668869
Just play the game, you will have more than enough dive points to do everything just playing normally. Or so I remember.

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>>165668869
>>165669001
I can confirm. I also felt that dive points were hard to come by but later you'll be drowning in them. No grinding needed.

>>165668869
Playing on Hard gives you a lot more of everything than Normal.

>>165669001
>>165669184
Alright. Guess you're just not intended to get all the new song magic that early.

>>165669442
I am playing on Hard, though it doesn't really live up to its name.

>>165669546
I know, most encounters are fairly straightforward, though end game can be more challenging on the highest one.

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>>165666181
I only played Kuroi Hitomi no Noire (Noir Yeux Noire -Cielgris Fantasm-) when it came out on PS1. It's a little like Atelier except you swap alchemy with monster capturing/raising (which forms your battle party).

It's still quite playable now though. Time limit, save childhood friend / world, open world, multiple endings, capturing monsters, part time mini-games for the cash etc.

If it got a remake I think it'll still hold its own even now (was from 1999), though it probably needs a buff on character events.

Also on PSN.

Think I posted something similar back in 2013 or 2014.

>>165666181
I played Ellie and Maria, they are pretty lame. You need a guide.

Papers, Please When

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This is the ideal female body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

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>>165670173
>This is the ideal female body
ftfy

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>>165670173
GO FIGHT!!!

>>165670173
Nah, large breasts and child-bearing hips is the objectively best female body type. Everything else is preference.

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>>165670270
The blonde chick does incredible things to my dick

>>165670653
>Tripfag
Automatically invalidated

>>165670270
Is really hope this will have harem end

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>>165670759
Say what you will about NoA, girls are PURE sex.

>tfw still no Danganronpa 2 price drop

>>165670270
Old fat hags

>>165670992
It's a NISA game

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>>165670993
>18-20
>old

>>165670992
NIS is still trying to sell me Disgaea 1 psp for $30

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>>165671104

>>165671104
Go knit a scarf grandma

>>165671104
I love me some jam sense

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>>165671341
Here, you may like 14-year olds better.

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>>165666181
I played the first one
Reminded me a little of Princess Maker

>>165671629
is it possible to beat without a guide to where all the events take place?

>>165670850
>The lady protagonist getting all the other ladies
Nice

>>165669691
Sounds good I'll try it

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>>165671589
How about a fifth grader?

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>>165671941
Everything is free to sexualize if it's nto actually real.

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>>165671941

>>165671824
Dunno, only played to one ending
I should give it another go one of these years

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The IDEAL female body.

>>165671629
>Sega saturn
Nice

>>165672106
Who is this semen demon?

>>165672209
Disgusting, don't ever post this ugly thing again.

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This female body is the best.

>>165672209
And the perfect age, too

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>snow

>>165672314
>Who is this semen demon?
Some girl from Dragons Rioting. Check it out. It's a fun manga where the MC has a medical condition where if he gets a boner, he'll die. He enrolls into a school he thought was for guys but it was just an all girls school that just became co-ed. Also there are fights and stuff.

Worst vitagen time

>>165672123
I want Echigoya.

>>165672603
That sounds awful

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>>165671629
>>165672283
>Sega Saturn
I remember that's when I learned riichi mahjong.

Guess not much has changed considering I just played Saki recently, except no nudity now.

>>165672714
It's actually pretty funny.

>>165672389
Who likes this?

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>>165672314
Gay?

>>165672932
>>>/ps4gen/

>>165672932
The best chief costume. After magical girl though.

>>165672858
Call the police

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>>165673091
What? She's from a vita game.

>>165673158
Only people in PS4gen like hags, you need to leave.

>>165673158
She don't look very happy on that costume

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>>165673238
>implying

>>165672932
>>165673158
those outfits are shit because no feet

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this is the perfect female body

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>>165673145

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>>165673238
Sorry I'm not a gay or a pedo. Or a gay pedo.

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>>165673238
I like flat chests and christmas cakes and I've been here for years.

>>165673407
It looks like she care

Do we have a number of Vita sold worldwide?

I mean I imagine the number is bad compared to the 3DS BUT, i dont think its as bad as people imagine.

It must be atleast at 25-30 million right?

>>165673545
VGChartz gives 14.73 million units sold globally.

>>165673632
Most in Japan no doubt.

>>165673545
50 in japan
10 in us
5 elsewhere

numbers in 1's of units

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>>165673238
You are wrong. Sorry that you live in the world of lies, Anon.

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>All these hag sympathizers
Disgusting. This isn't the Vitagen I loved.

>>165673513
*don't care

>>165673385
Unf

>>165673848
>had to make a loli version to get people to give a shit about her
How fucking sad.

>>165669685
When should I turn it up to Veteran? I heard that it's not really worth doing it early in the game.

There has to be a reason why so many lovely ladies arent married or knocked up by 25.

>>165674032
What did you expect from grand order garbage

>>165673545
5 million in Japan 6 months ago.
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8597749.html

I don't think there's a way to get the numbers in Asia though.

>>165674231
If you need more any more resources or EXP turn it up to Veteran, but I was getting by pretty easily on Hard. Once you have a lot of gear equipped on both teams Veteran shouldn't be very difficult.

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>>165672490
>And the perfect age, too
Nice, I didn't know Chief was 14.

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>tfw too much anxiety to meet to new people.
>actively push the people away that reach out to me because they generally try stuff before I'm comfortable with them and my pushback ruins the relationship before it even began.
>assume everyone thinks I'm an asshole because I know a few do.
>even isolate myself from people online and pretend it's just because I'm busy.
I'm so lonely vitagen, and the only people I'm really comfortable with are my own parents and siblings.
I don't think I even like video games any more, I spend over hald of my wages buying all the new games in the hope I'll find something I like, but nothing sticks except for multiplayer games or games I can play online with my brother.
How do I so the revival thing in Shiren 5? I clicked on wait for revival but then nothing happened.

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>>165673848
I agree with this Jannu Anon. Younger is a little bit better.

I just think loli Jannu is too young.

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>>165674534
More resources, you say?

Guess I'll do it when I can craft more gear. Most of my slots are still empty.

>>165668872
Late to the party, but
>The combat is more flashy but it's not in any way deeper, E&L has better combat.
It's the opposite, E&L is the flashier but it's not in any way deeper. Sophie has deeper gameplay than E&L because in E&L it's sooo freaking easy to break things and kill anything easily.

Dusk's alchemy is simple af, I never had to think a lot even when making ultimate gears in E&L, Shallie's was just a joke, and Ayesha's was just bad in general, which is why the later Dusk games have nothing in similar to Ayesha's.

Sophie still requires you to think really hard to prepare stuff if you're aiming for 999 everything.

Also, Firis literally blows any previous Atelier out of the water as far as the combat and alchemy goes.

>I disagree, I think Shallie/Meruru had a VERY rich ost, Shallie is the ost I use in Sophie now after my first play through.
Shallie I agree, but Meruru really isn't, outside of the battle songs and Hagel's song I don't remember anything else. Sophie at least has more varied battle songs, and some decent ones like the bar song, Corneria's song, and the day map song.

Again, Firis blows them out of the water, even most of the area songs are really good.

>There should be ramifications, Atelier have always had bad ends
Fixed in Firis.

>>165674981
You may be depressed, anon. It is actually more normal than you think and it isn't so bad.
Just find something you like to do. Also, don't despair if it takes a long while to find it.

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>>165673392
Daga... Otoko

>>165675385
>I never had to think a lot even when making ultimate gears in E&L

Yea turns out, when you use a guide alchemy becomes simple.

>>165676258
>I'm an idiot who thinks Dusk is difficult so anyone who thinks it's easy must be using a guide!
See, I can also make assumptions.

>>165676435
Dude you didn't make ultimate gear in your first run without a guide, fuck off. No it isn't hard, but materials you need for ultimate gear are EASILY missable or easy to fuck yourself by wasting the traits on your first run. While in Sophie it's almost impossible not to get ultimate gear.

If there was an alternative reality where Ruka was a girl, I wouldn't hesitate to impregnate her girl pussy.

Cute and gentle timid girls are the best.

If you can't read, I was saying that in the context of the alchemy, not about the materials gathering. And even you yourself were replying in context of alchemy, then you suddenly switched to material gathering.

And yeah I didn't use a guide for looking for the traits, though be honest I did had a friend tell me about how to get the ultimate traits, but that's all, making the item itself doesn't need a guide.

But anyway if that's your standard for difficult, then Sophie's materials for actual ultimate gears is harder to obtain because the best DLC traits are a pain to gather.

>>165676634
Same. I wouldn't hesitate to impregnate his boy pussy either.

>>165677035
Meant for >>165676606

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>>165677112
>boy pussy

>>165674981
Don't worry, I also have no friends. We can cry together.

>>165674981
cute gif

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>played 18 hours of Shiren 5 this weekend
What the hell am I doing with my life.

>>165677885
You're having fun with a video game, I hope.

>>165668326
Certainly not me that's for sure.

>>165677885
Don't worry Anon. I started reading the first Utawarerumono mostly because of that ESRB rating indicating that it would be localized. And it has been consuming all my free time now. All of this just because there was a rating made for it. Though that said I've been enjoying the story very much.

>>165678149
t. Monika

>>165678321
Did she seriously pussywhip him into becoming thin?

Monika confirmed for best girl.

>>165677885
there's still time left in the weekend, anon. go play some more

>>165674981
I've always wondered why so many depressed people tend to gather here in /vitagen/. I'm one myself, too. If you still have good relations with your relatives, try to keep at least those. It really sucks when there's nothing for you offline or outside video games. You don't want that.
>How do I so the revival thing in Shiren 5?
Other people have to rescue you now. I'm still not sure if the rescues in the story dungeon are limited to ad-hoc, or can they be done online. There are a few people here who have played Shiten a whole lot, so they might be able to help you.

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>Want to play something
>Don't know what to play

>>165678920
That's not a real problem

>>165678920
what do you have?

I always play some Umihara Kawase when I'm like that.

Whether or not you like Sophie vs Arland really comes down to what you think of in terms of game design philosophy.

If you like power fantasy like Skyrim, chances are you will like Sophie, they are more alike than you think. In Skyrim the idea is to NEVER punish the player for making mistakes or not knowing how to play the game. You ALWAYS get stronger no matter what you do, and even if you die or fail the punishment is very light, and no matter what you do you will eventually reach a good and satisfying end with and "end game" that focus around you getting stronger and beating up stronger enemies. No matter how you play, you will eventually be able to beat every monster in the game.

Arland on the other hand is in the EXACT opposite end of the design philosophy. They punish you for not knowing the game, and the game definitively ends at a certain point. In many ways the game is like a Souls game. Souls game punish you until you understand all the mechanics at play, so that when you finally overcome an obstacle it's all the more rewarding. In Souls and Arland you can fuck up big time, get ends you didn't want, or gimp your character by not understanding the system. Also there is a set point where the game ends, which is very important in game design. Arland games end after x number of years then you have to start again from the beginning, this makes it so that you CAN'T grind your way to beating all the end game content, if you are not good, you won't even see that content. Souls ends once you have no more bosses to kill, this reset is important! This is important because forcing people to start a new game shows them how much better they have gotten and shows them how all their hard work has paid off. Not because they get to keep all the levels and gear they earned but because of the skills they acquired.

Both are equally good, Skyrim and Souls are good games same as Arland and Sophie but different people have different taste.

>>165678920
play with yourself

>>165678530
Not in my time zone, it's almost 10 PM here.

>>165679128
then have a good rest

>>165679091
Generally I agree, except
>No matter how you play, you will eventually be able to beat every monster in the game
Not really, the post game non-DLC bosses on anything above normal require pretty good equipment and items which requires you to at least know how to make those properly.

The DLC bosses are even more difficult.

Also this
>Not because they get to keep all the levels and gear they earned but because of the skills they acquired
Assuming people already know how the new game+ works, most of the time people just end up blindly going through first playthrough randomly while making equipment as good as they can so they can do things much more easily and much more faster in the next playthrough. Which, in a way, is kinda like a power fantasy desu.

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>>165679087
Thanks
I don't have Umihara Kawase but i know what i gonna play now
>>165679102
I did that 2 times today

>>165675443
Oh I know I'm depressed.
It was pretty okay when I was on meds, but then I had trouble reaching orgasm while masturbating.

>>165677725
;_;

>>165677782
You're cute.

>>165678545
We're here just to suffer.
How do I know if someone's rescued me?

Can anyone recommend a couple of vita games for a fan of Drakengard/Nier?

I don't expect the games to be anything alike, not even in theme. Something dark with some good music would be great, but really anything that I may also like would be great.

I also really want a good Japanese TPS that isn't EDF. (Not that I don't adore EDF).

>>165679857
conception ii

>>165679914
Don't be mean

>>165674981
Do something crazy and fun that you just always told yourself you were never good enough to do.

Why not just fucking fly to Japan for a couple weeks?

>>165679682
>Assuming people already know how the new game+ works, most of the time people just end up blindly going through first playthrough randomly while making equipment as good as they can so they can do things much more easily and much more faster in the next playthrough.

NG+ is actually for casuals, this goes for souls as well.

>>165679914
You won't fool me, anon.

I guess what I'm in the mood for is something original, and maybe a little violent. Something with gameplay I'm not too familiar with.

>>165680172
ive got one so violent that it got censored

criminal girls

>>165679857
Soul Sacrifice Delta. It pretty dark but full of hope

>>165679857
You could check out Soul Sacrifice Delta. You'll almost certainly like the atmosphere and story. I personally didn't enjoy the gameplay, but a lot of people around here disagree with me so you'll probably like that too.

Maybe Stranger of Sword City, if you're a fan of DRPGs? It's got fantastic art, and a single wrong move by you can have one of your characters in the hospital for weeks. But due to that, it might not be so good for people who are new to DRPGs.

>>165680262
>but full of hope
If by hope you mean despair, then yes.

>>165680145
>NG+ is actually for casuals
Sometimes. I accidently went into NG+ on Bloodborne before doing the DLC, which was a big mistake.

>>165680172
The only darkish Vita game that comes to mind is Sword of Stranger City. I haven't played it, but from what I've seen it looks dark compared to other Vita DRPGs. You might also want to consider Darkest Dungeon, that's another slip up and die game.

>>165680145
For Rorona and Totori, it's just near impossible to beat the game in first run without a guide considering the amount of missable events. Also Meruru requires new game+ no matter what.

>>165674981
>>165678545
>>165679782
Wanderer "Aid" is for the mainline story dungeon and is limited to local connections. As in someone visits you, starts up shiren, and sends over a revival herb or something. You receive it from the main menu I think.

Wanderer "Rescue" is for the other dungeons and you can get help online. Someone takes your rescue request, goes through an identical dungeon up to the floor you died on (the final floor having a monster house), and interacts with a sprite of a dead shiren to revive you. Once this happens and they send the results up to the server, you can receive the "rescue spell" from the main menu.

>>165680541
>For Rorona and Totori, it's just near impossible to beat the game in first run without a guide considering the amount of missable events.

That's called good game design, get good.

>>165680262
>>165680330
Worth a shot I guess. I think I have the game already because I got it on a flash sale for a few bucks way back when. I didn't like the first Soul Sacrifice too much, simply because I'm turned off by games that give you AI companions that do half of the work for you. (I realize DoD3 and Nier have mandatory companions too, but they don't do shit).

As for SoSC, I'm into hardcore DRPGs, especially oldschool stuff from the 80s that hates you. I'll look into it, thanks.

>>165680539
>Darkest Dungeon
This game I think is just boring though. I think I'm a bit too used to old-school ascii roguelikes and stuff to really acknowledge it. It felt like a smartphone game to me.

This just reminded me how much I'd love to see Baroque on the vita, though.

>>165680743
>needing a guide to finish the game in one playthrough is good design
Whatever you say, mate.

>>165680541
I'm new to Atelier and am a few months into Rorona - by 'impossible to beat the game' do you mean that there's like a 'true' ending that I won't be able to get without a guide? Will I have to replay the whole game to get it?

>>165680916
Something like that. Rorona has a few missable events that you probably won't know unless you use a guide or you're just really lucky that you somehow prioritized all those with the deadlines at the right moment.

If you're like me, don't want to play two playthroughs but don't want to follow I guide, I would recommend to consult a guide but just take note of the deadlines for missable events, then play on your own without following the steps on the guide.

>>165680541
>For Rorona and Totori, it's just near impossible to beat the game in first run without a guide considering the amount of missable events.

Again, if you like power fantasy, where the game waits for you and the whole game is curated so that you never miss anything, then that is for you.

Not everyone like their hands being held. You can't see all the content in a single run of a souls game, hell you can't do it in two in some games. Does that mean it's bad? No, replayablity is an asset, not a liability.

Do you think Baldur's Gate 2 is bad because it has soo many events you can miss?

>>165680886
>>165681190

Why not just watch a movie?

Anyone here have experience buying from YESASIA? How are they?

>>165681190
Where do I say it's bad?

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>>165681319
>Asia Yes
It sounds like a Swedish diversity program.

>>165681154
Are the missable events important at all or just fun little extra scenes?

>>165681628
In Arland most of them are important, and/or character ends.

>>165681628
They're related to getting endings for the relevant characters, which in turn is required to get the true ending as well.

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>>165681628
If you use a guide you will regret it forever. It literally sucks the soul out of ANY atelier game, until they become little more than visual novels.

Why doesn't vitagen play games together anymore?

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>>165681926
congrats

>>165681748
>>165681756
Damn, okay. In that case I guess I might follow a checklist then.

>>165682053
You say that but I'll probably end up missing a lot if I don't use a guide, and I don't really want to have to replay the whole game after to get the things I missed

>>165682053
Nah, like I said here >>165681154
Just take note of the deadlines and then plan your actions on your own to finish everything in one playthrough. It's definitely much more challenging than the typical recommendation of "play the first playthrough blind, then get everything you missed on second playthrough when you're already overpowered like crazy."

>>165682294
>It's definitely much more challenging than the typical recommendation of "play the first playthrough blind, then get everything you missed on second playthrough when you're already overpowered like crazy."

Who the fucks plays like that? You just make a new game and try again with all that you learned. NG+ is a noob trap for people that never want to learn the game.

>>165681926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZVa9aEaX-c

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Is Fate/Extella good or is it just a shitty musou game? I have a bunch of gift cards to Amazon and some Gamestop credit, just wondering if I should blow some of them.

>>165682535
It's a bad game and a bad entry from a story point of view. They should have just remade Extra and CCC.

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>>165682210
What do you wanna play?

>>165682636
That's a cute awoo

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Anyone up for some Dragon's Crown LoC?

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>>165682742
Too bad I lost the fight

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I hate these fucking "muh cute loli" games trying to get in on that indie darling cheddar.
They have shit gameplay and all anyone ever says about them is "(main character) is cute and perfect!".

Htmlniq, Yōmawari and Rose Twilight Princess is what I'm talking about, and nowadays it seems like they're getting churned out as a yearly franchise like cod, except designed for weebs who can't stop masturbating.
Disgusting.

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>>165681926
>50 hours.

>>165682834
I would if I wasn't going to work.
>can still see her pantsu, even with her knees touching
That's lewd af.

>>165682281
The Atelier series, especially Arland, is all about replayability, and not knowing exactly what to expect. I highly recommend winging it, and then if you must, use a guide for your second playthrough. It's a much better experience.

>>165683087
NIS games was always like that

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>>165683023

The reach on that is always ridiculous. Also air unblockable, it's a bit ridiculous but helps with the fact she's a slow attacker and her moves are pretty open.

>>165682834

I'm down for some floors.

>>165681926
What do you even do to get the 50 hour trophy?

>>165683087
Have you played them though? Yomawari is great.

>>165683356
>>165682281

And never do new game plus for your second play though. Actually just get good.

>>165683356
I dropped the Sophie game before the book even transformed the first time. I can't imagine suffering through that again if I already knew what was going to happen.

>>165683605
Sophie is NOT about replayability.

It's also not a very good game, especially compared to arland.

>>165683104
Those twins want to get fucked badly.

>>165683850
No they don't

>>165683491
I'm on my third playthrough of Totori now, without having used a guide. Still having a great time figuring everything out.

>>165683491
Playing second playthrough in the first place isn't really "get good". You can just focus on some characters first, then focus on the others in the second, so you still have much more room to think compared to consulting a checklist then think how to finish it in one go while learning everything for the first time.

>>165683782
It has better combat and arguably better alchemy.

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>>165683929
They are right around that age where they can't think about anything but sex.

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At the stables now.
If anyone here is new and would like to join too then let me know and I'll add you, then remake the room so you can join with us.

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Anyone down for some Toukiden Kiwami in about one hour?

>>165683990
I disagree about better alchemy, and the better combat is overshadowed by Totori having a basket system that actually matters, and having some of the best time management for the series (which is what makes Atelier unique).

To me, the point of the Atelier series is the combination of time management and alchemy. Marie and Ellie, and then the Arland series are the best of the series for me.

>>165684148
Okay I'll join you soon. I already have your PSN.

Just need to change gamecard.

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>>165684342
Cool. Hopefully we can get 4 today since it's earlier than usual.

>>165684270
>Atelier series is the combination of time management and alchemy
I won't disagree with that as that's what I think as well, but I won't let that cloud my judgement of the game as a single game.

>I disagree about better alchemy
As I said, it's arguable. I personally like it because it takes a whole new approach and it's not as braindead as Shallie's or E&L's. Arland's was nice, but after 3 games having more or less the same system it gets kinda boring, like, you play one, you only need to adjust a little bit to master the others.

And before you ask, Firis's look really similar to Sophie's, but the difference is larger compared to the difference between Arland titles.

>the better combat is overshadowed
I only mention the combat, the combat is better, hands down. Whether it's overshadowed by other aspects you find more important is another matter entirely.

If the next Vita had a 4k screen but cost 299, would you buy it?
MicroSD and l2,r2 buttons

>>165684148
Ok I'll join you. Dorf reporting in, just let me change the game.

>>165683087
>complaining about games you didn't play

>>165684846
Do you already have me on PSN?

>>165684958
Probably.

>>165684835
Yes, but not if they added a bunch of lame gimicks to it. Git rid of motion controls and the rear touch screen. Do not add video controls or any garbage like that, and give it solid battery life and I would be sold.

I wouldn't mind being able to broad cast it to my PS4 either.

>>165684835
Depends on the specs. If it's at least as powerful as a, say, $200-$250 phone at the time of its release, then sure.

>>165684958
It says you can't accept participants since you're already in the labyrinth. Another day then.

>>165683605
Some people will still defend it. As far as incapable annoying alchemist go, Sophie is literally the worst and would have remained a shit alchemist if not for Prafta, Rorona became a legendary alchemist INSPITE of Astrid.

Combat is "arguably better" so is the Alchemy. Everything else is a step down from Dusk, which is a side step from Arland. Dusk had the best setting and mood/atmosphere.

>>165685182
Bummer. Oh well, maybe next time.

>>165683987
Enjoy it man, some people don't know how to enjoy games. Bunch of plat fags if you ask me.

>>165685275
Managed to piggyback on the not host.

>>165685217
I enjoy a lack of time constraints, but it would have been nice if the story implied a sense of urgency. I like to NoA as an example for this. There were no time limits per se, but you felt like progressing was urgent because of the eclipse.

How do you redo a plat, I was trying to screenshot at right moment but I messed up, so I turned off the vita. My sync is off for my trophies, so could I possibly do it again? If not how do I erase a trophy

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>>165684835
>4k screen
>Games still at 544p resolution, sometimes not even that high (project diva f1)
>L2/R2 basically just for remote play

If it was a successor console sure, because more weeb shit for me to weeb out on. As another option in the -vita- line, nah.

>>165685217
Rorona wouldn't be able to become anything decent without Astrid's bullying.
And the next Arland's alchemists wouldn't be able to become anything decent without the previous ones.

>>165685478
Sorry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZVa9aEaX-c

>>165685478
Either through some hax solution or by formatting.

Remember when having hidden and extra content was considered a good thing? Was that also before trophies were a thing? I remember replaying games LOOKING for the extra stuff I missed, now games pump and dump trying to get a 100% in a single 20-40 hour run, and anything that doesn't let you do that is 'bad" somehow.

So, since the Switch is getting the remaster of Disgaea 5 we can't expect it on the Vita, right?

>>165685734
Remember when costumes and characters were secret stuff you had to unlock?

>>165685678
Pretty sure Totori only learned how to make Old men's cream pie from Rorona. Sophie literally learns almost everything from Prafta. Sure the learn the basics from another alchemist but they never had their hands held.

>>165685850
Good times, now gotta fork up 5 bucks for the dlc.

>>165685839
NIS always say it was not possible
You can try wait for DD2

>>165685839
correct

>>165685839
>Disgaea 5
Didn't they straight up say it wasn't possible for vita due to the amount of on screen characters or something

>>165685734
It was never a good thing. It's only made for fake replayability or fake play time. Ever tried getting all secrets on old Tales game without a guide? That would require you to travel back to all previous places you've visited every time a key event happens. No, it wasn't fun.

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>>165685839
>Switch
Enjoy your hand cramps

>>165685939
>You can try wait for DD2
Why would we want that thing? To fry your Vita?

>>165686002
You like handholding that is fine. I like games like Baldur's Gate 2.

>>165685850
I really miss that

>>165685929
And pretty sure Sophie only learned about the alchemy basic on the very first time they met.

Also she thought almost all of her recipes by herself instead of learning them from books.

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>>165686042
NIS fix PS3 D3
Why not try DD2 oh wait NIS know that DD2 was a mistake

>>165686070
Nah, I prefer games to give me clear and actual skill related challenges instead of fake difficulty that only takes time or replaying the same thing a bunch of times to achieve.

>>165684148
I've never played Dragon's Crown before, but I have the cart. How long does it take to get past the tutorial stuff so I can play with you guys? An hour?

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>people telling me happy birthday 40-odd days after my birthday

>>165686302
So you like handholding, you like curated video game experiences. That is fine, some people like the power fantasy that is Skyrim, and some people like deep decision based games like Morrowind. It's fine, it's no big deal.

Personally I like it when my actions have meaning in the game, and would rather not play the equivalent of interactive movies. If you are playing for difficulty, Atelier is really not the series for you.

>>165684754
I don't actually disagree with you at all.

I'm just saying.

>>165686574
Did you put 1/1/1980 as your birthday to get around age gates or something?

>24 now and still feel like I'm lying when sites ask if I'm over 18

This isn't the place it used to be back in 2012, we actually posted lewds instead of those censored garbage. What happened???

>>165686808
does it really matter that much to you

>>165686808
They started enforcing blue board=sfw

>>165686808
They started to delete the lewds

>>165686808
Times are changing people say

>>165686456
I think around 5-7 hours until you unlock multiplayer, but we're playing the third difficulty which starts at around the level 60 range so it'd be a while before you get that far.

>>165686998
I don't buy it