/twg/ - Total War General

First for fuck you

>>165640392
>Yfw you find out the lady is actually a wood elf

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third for shogun 2 ai

>>165640392
https://youtu.be/u10efefOmVA
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Post Warhams roll chart pls

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

Did the Irish save Europe?

>>165640392
More details on the Old World Edition and Bretonnia when? They should be finishing up soon so they can be ready for the physical release.

>>165640859
With the great irish empire? lmao

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are these fuckers trying to kill me?
been raiding wre/ere just to get on the huns' good side and now this goddamnit

>>165641132
Don't be a pussy.

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>>165641170
whelp, i guess we're in it now. gonna have to make some changes to my armies or i'm getting stomped.

>>165641334
In the grim darkness of the 5th century, there is only war.

>>165641334
>Settling in on the Hunnic spawning grounds
The absolute madman

>>165640859
Eblanis are really easy in Attila.

So maybe?

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>embed

Why didn't Arianism prosper in Europe?

>>165641902

Why would it? It had fuck all institutional support.

>>165641902
Christianity ate everything up

>>165641934
Most of the barbarian tribes seemed to embrace it before they embraced Nicene Christianity, so it had to have some institutional support before groups like the Visigoths and Lombards converted.

>>165642012

>Smelly barbars
>"institutional support"

lmao

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>>165641334
my army really wasn't built for this level of horsefuckery...

>>165642538
No regrets, nigga.

Haven't played in a while does these two DLC with lords add anything else worth mentioning? How bad are elves?

>>165642690

>does these two DLC with lords add anything else worth mentioning?

You talking about The King and the Warlord?

That's a pretty good DLC pack, a lot of the new units are fun and useful but the best thing it adds are the alternate starts that both the new lords have, especially Skarsnik is a really different experience from a normal Greenskins campaign.

Elves are really strong, probably the strongest faction in the game.

>>165642690
King and the Warlord adds new start positions and campaign objectives, and Wood Elves are the baddest dudes on the campaign map.

Can't decide myself between playing Napoopan or shogun 2 lads

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So /twg/, I have a slight dilemma. The Imagawa have declared war on me, but they're on the other fucking side of the map, and friends with the Date, who are goddamn massive. I can possibly take the Hatano who are my neighbors, but their navy seems to be all over the place. Not sure how to deal with it. Who should I attack first?

>>165643183
Shogun 2 breh

>>165640031
What new feautures, missions unlocking buildings is just a different tech tree

>>165642854
>>165642864
Thanks lads.

>>165641902
Because Catholicism is The Way, The Truth and The Life

>>165642690
King and the Warlord is meh because their campaigns aren't that interesting anyway, Grim and Grave is really fun though

>>165643183
FotS online
>>165643862
>green holdings Kysushu
Please tell me you're Christian

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Feels fuking good

Should I buy chaos? I like heavy armour and artillery.

>>165644452
Their campaign isn't very fun, sadly. They aren't even remotely finished.

>>165644351
>Please tell me you're Christian
Oh no brah, I'm burning every Nanban quarter I find. Those filthy round-eyes can go back to their shitholes in Europe. On the plus side, the Imagawa decided to declare peace, so now I just have to deal with the Hatano.

>>165643862
>not taking all the trade nodes
You are not a true islandnigger. Shameful display.

>>165644709
>not wanting every place to have the stamp of British Authority
Oh no he's retarded

playing the irish while recruiting nothing but javelin-tossers in attila is hilarious, they have excellent armour, great ranged damage, decent melee damage and can even set fire to their javelins

>>165644853
Yeah, the Ebdanians are THE javelin faction. They turn it up to 11 and then literally set it on fire.

>>165640587
This is pretty good.
We need more of these.

>>165645219
>We need more of these.
some ideas?

>>165641942
Arianism is christianity you bumblefuck

>>165645384
i want you to bumblefuck me

>>165645384

That sounds like something a blaspheming, heathen Arian fuck would say.

My daimyo has the "impolite" trait. What the fuck do I do? I want to Sudoku him. Worth it?

>>165645407
Londinium

>>165644394
BEAST'D

>>165644853
>flaming javelins
this is why you play FotE
>>165645384
>Christianity is the belief that Christ saved us from our sins and allowed us to enter Heaven
>Dude you think Jesus is God, nah man he justa prophet
t. Catholic who studied the Heresies in 6th form
>>165645427
Make sure you have a son
wait what happens if you have no family members left, do your generals just rebel?

>>165645441
kek

>>165645538
>Wanting to use a mod that removes all ap units from the game.
Oh I am laffin

>>165645538

>>Dude you think Jesus is God, nah man he justa prophet

That's not what Arianism is though.

>>165644809
>british

They're portuguese my good friend

>>165645952
According to them Jesus is a mere man and not divine, therefore rejection of the Trinity, therefore earthly
>>165646003
First off they use the british voice lines from FotS, second off what is Port

>>165645952
Is arianism about the saving of the superior white race?

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>pic related is gonna be the next historical title

Feels diverse and fun.

>>165646120
Looks fucking shit

>>165646058
MUH HOLY TRINITY

>>165646120
aar rook same

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>>165646120
>pike and slzzzzz.....

>>165645336
A Milan one would be the most obvious choice.

>>165646058

>According to them Jesus is a mere man and not divine

That's wrong though? I don't understand where you got this notion.

According to Arianism Jesus the Son was created by God the Father and was of a distinct and separate essence from God the Father.

They never believed the Jesus the Son was a mere man, simply that he was subordinate to God the Father, a lesser order of divinity.

They believed the same thing about the Holy Spirit, that doesn't mean they thought the Holy Spirit was a man either.

>>165646179
Muh Nicene creed, muh beleif that comes from the begining of Christianity and thus the true faith and not just the religion of princes wanting control and levy taxes as they will whilst also not paying the Pope

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>>165646146
>>165646183
>>165646213
>not wanting the most diverse and interesting time period in Europe which is 1500-1700 as a total war

>>165646305
MUH POPE

The whole concept of a pope is idolatry.

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EMPIRE 2 FUCKING WHEN?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXknALrHSfI&t

>>165646313
>musketmen vs musketmen
Yes, such diversity

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>>165644452
Buy them for best boys

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I wish I could just be a pleb and just enjoy Radious' mods with the rest of the normies.

>>165644452
The campaign is shit, only buy it if you are a chaosboo

>>165646451
Jesus gave the teachings to the discples, so what is wrong with a man giving the truth when possesed by The Holy Spirit
>>165646493
What is hussars, swords, pikes, rolderos, toldeos, obsidian daggers, and all those other unique weapons

yes hello where the fun factions at?

>>165646493
1500-1700 would be like FOTS in Europe with medieval tactics and knights in the beginning, slowly progressing into more modern ways to fight.
Eastern Europe has had horse archers and foot archers mixed with muskets and the fact that the campaign would start at the beginning of the age of discovery with dozens of unclaimed overseas territories makes it even more diverse.

you are either baiting or stupid

>>165646642
Obama in RotS

>>165646717
What's fun about them?

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>>165646642
Hello yes?

>>165646840
Is this best lord Vlad?

>>165646634

>Jesus gave the teachings to the discples

Jesus wasn't a mere man but the divine Son of God?

>so what is wrong with a man giving the truth when possesed by The Holy Spirit

Any man can receive the Holy Spirit, you don't need to be elected to wear a big hat to do that.

>>165646451
>>165646305
>>165646058
>>165645952
careful you are going to summon that one autistic anon

>>165646929

We haven't seen BaptistAnon in yonks, I don't believe he comes here anymore.

WHEN COMES BRETONNIA

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>>165646910
No its manni the bets Carstein

>>165646913
>elected by the Cardinals
>priests chosen by God to lead the church in their theological battle

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>165640725
Are you going to stop posting this when Bret releases, or

>>165647031
No it's one of the best memes we have

>>165647003

>>priests chosen by God to lead the church in their theological battle

No, see, that's another meme you made up.

Becoming a cardinal is 100% political.

Why is Mannfred the """faction leader""" of VC when Vlad clearly should be? To be honest have faction leaders is kind of a bummer for certain factions, like the Orcs.

is it possible to survive being hit by a javelin

>>165647107

If it hits center-mass?

Unlikely.

If you're hit in the extremities? Probably.

>>165647154
What if you're hit in the dick?

>>165647097
Because Vlad is dead until Nagash comes back,

>>165647097
Because, in this timeline, Vlad was dead until just now. Mannfred took over the bloodline and is the faction leader as a result. CA have said they're open to the idea of having Vlad usurp Mannfred at some point in the additional content yet to be added.

>>165647286
>Vlad usurp Mannfred at some point in the additional content yet to be added.
Is it really usurping when he's the actual leader and it was Manny taking advantage of him being dead at the moment?

>>165647186
Then there is no reason to live

>>165647358
Only the strongest can lead. Vlad's quest battles are all about reclaiming his lost power since he's so recently resurrected, so his current power level isn't comparable to a Mannfred that has had decades of unlife to prepare.

>>165647358
Yes because Manfred lets the thief stel Vlad's ring, and tells the nceromancers to leave Konrad

>like shogun 2 battles and setting
>can't stand the campaign map gameplay

its a shame

>>165648118
what's wrong
just put 6 matchlock in every garrison and then hide troops in ambush

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Wow it's been some time since I checked his channel, why is it dead?

>>165648407
everyone realized he's garbage

my neck hurts

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>>165648643
I personally stopped watching his channel after Rome 2 release and his shameless shilling of the game. I guess more people did the same because half his videos now are Rome 1 again lel

>>165648715

Perhaps you should see a doctor.

>>165640725
>Great helms
Fucking plebian tier, great helms and full plate is even worse, fucking disgusting, lmao learn to make a bascinet you fucking stupid hosefucking faggots

>>165648118
use assembly kit to direct your campaign manually

>>165648760
perhaps I should see ___you


what are you doing tonight?

>>165648407

He doesn't put out that much content. I dunno, maybe he's got like a normal job as well.

>dei 1.2
>bonus vs cav and bonus vs elephants are different stats

for what pvrpose

>>165644709
Kys slint eye gook cunt, can't wait for your descendents to burn to death in nuclear fire you slope cunt

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>>165648407
>Massive drop between July 13 - Jan 14
>Rome II release: Sep 13

Kek dude must be pissed at CA for screwing his channel

>>165648816

N-Nothin

>>165646058
>Muh trinity
Kys stupid catholic idol worshiping fucktard

>>165647031
At least he's not Welfposter.

>>165649059
>>165648962

damn you're autistic

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>>165648804
I know you 'miring boy.

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I've just bought TW: Medieval II Kingdoms, I played a pirated version of vanilla before and noticed that diplomacy seems absolutely fucked with Allies seemingly turning on you at the drop of a head.

I looked through the pastebin but found only big mods, I'm looking for simple tweaks that fix tiny issues like this and any other that I haven't experienced yet.

Any suggestions?

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>>165646241

>>165649253
Nice armor
Shit workout

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the result of 17 minutes of sustained combat

>>165649102
Kys autistic faggot, go drown yourself in your own jizz you cocksucking spastic cunt

>>165649325
thats just medieval 2s diplomacy at work, watch your reputation

Why did you lie to me lads, you said Empire Greatswords are OP. But they just die off like flies, I feel like Skarsnik boosted Night Goblins are most lethal than these guys.

>>165649406
DeI has a bunch of FASTER COMBAT sub mods for a reason, anon.

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>>165649325
There are certain provinces that nations are determined to have.
France WILL backstab England at one point because they have decided that they WILL own Normandy.

trust nobody not even yourself my dude

>>165649809
At launch they were super OP in multiplayer. This was because of their cost-effectiveness. They're not quite so hot anymore.

>>165649827
France and Scotland double teaming England, or am I missing something?

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>>165646120
WE CAN ONLY HOPE!

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>>165649827
>>165649503

Very well.

I heard conflicting reports about the AI acting buggy when you release war prisoners and hence your reputation getting fucked, even though one behaves like a saint.

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What mods should I get for Attila besides Double Garrisons and better camera?

There are officers mods for WH
Can someone make a flag bearer already?

>>165650039
You are missing a lot.
England player starts the game as a chivalrous peaceful leader.
They are betrayed by the French and go to suffer several more tragedies. Somewhere along their journey they snap and become the true villain.

IE. Most M2 games.

>>165650024
I just don't know what to build as Empire anymore, Swordsmen get fucked up hard, these stupid Chaos Chariots bash through them like butter and fuck up the whole line.

Also, does anyone else feel like blue line characters take way too fucking long to skill up? I have an Empire captain almost since the start of the game sitting next to Altdorf, I was trying to get him up the blue line for the recruitment boost.

Now Chaos is here and he barely got one rank in the skill, same with a recruitment lord really. If you actually want to use these skills you pretty much have to level a guy through combat and then dump him in a city after 50 turns.

>>165650237

That would require separate animations though.

>>165650218
unlimited Governors, FotE, Machine gun tower buff, no legacy tech for ERE

>>165650218
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=478742808 Small but nice addition.

>>165650274

>Also, does anyone else feel like blue line characters take way too fucking long to skill up?

Send him to a settlement of some faction you don't like and make him do actions against it every single turn.

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>>165650329
>FotE

>>165650274
You need them to do aggressive missions rather than the idle mission if you want to level them at a reasonable pace.

Swordsmen are great until you fight chaos or stunties.
Then halberds and greatswords are the order of the day.
Have a plan to deal with enemy hellcannons so you can maintain artillery advantage.
Helblaster volley guns are hilarious against chaos.
Push your absurd missile ap damage even further using a light wizard who has the net spell.

Chariots rely on momentum. If they do get through completely, they'll charge again and fuck you hard. If they don't make it all the way through the first unit they get taken down pretty quickly.
Swordsmen are literally your worst unit against them as well.
Swordsmen have no AP and no anti-large and no charge defense. Chariot have anti-infantry. They are a hard counter to swordsmen. One also costs more than two swordsmen.

>>165650274
cav are your counters to chariot

>>165650324
No just stick a flag on a spear model

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How's Bellum Crucis for TW:M2?

>>165650720
very good and pretty, but buggy like every other med2 mod, also translation is fucking shit

>>165650720
It's good. I always liked it more than SS.

>>165650329
>no legacy tech for ERE
Why this one?

>>165650834
>>165650882

Thanks.

How about Chivalry II: Sicilian Vespers?

So based on how awful Dwarf fanboys are now, how bad do you think Skaven fanboys will be when game 2 hits.

>>165650936
Not him, but ERE's golden age was right after the games's timeframe so it doesn't make much sense imo

>>165650936
Because the ERE continued to build cement stuff?
>>165651050
Rattit is already a meme m8 for a reason

>>165651093
>>165650936
And by "doesn't make much sense" I meant the tech loss

Hagia Sophia was built in 537 and it's pretty much a wonder even nowadays

>>165650936
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia
built in 537
just read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_architecture

>>165651050
>dwarf fanboys
the fuck are you talking about? if by spamming memes you mean they're fanboys then if anything elves and chaos are the worst.

>>165650329
Machine gun tower buff?
Like the village ones, what's the buff do change em back to the of rapetastic RoF

>>165651050
As much as I hate stunties more than any other race, their fans are okay.
Much better than Elf fans in general.

>>165651198
Chaos fans are traditionally the most childish but in a suprising turn of events we're not seeing many here.

Skaven fans are okay as well. They're a cool faction with a lot of cool stuff.
The only issue with them is how outspoken they are prior to the race being introduced. But in that they still fall short of elf fans.

>>165651050
This post makes no sense.

>>165650218

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?738396-Total-War-Aztec-Graphics-Campaign-Pack-Edition-(-Released-23-August-)

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>>165646120
NO

VICTORIAN

>>165651418
your mom made no sense when I was sticking my rat in her clugne

>>165648407
The dude is Larping philipino just like their president, WE WUZ ALEXANDER THE GREAT N SHIEET, bitch boi banned me off their channel for shittalking him

>>165651705
>Tripfag
Kys you autistic cum slurping, cock suckling faggot

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>>165651684

>>165651705
>dumb tripfaggot posts dumb shit
Wow, what a surprise

>>165651478
This one doesn't work due to compatibility issues, but I have no other visual mods installed. Any ideas?

>>165652031

It shouldn't really have any compatibility issues and i've been using it since august... So I'm not really sure whats wrong

>>165650475
>Then halberds and greatswords are the order of the day.

I'm not a big fan of halberds because whenever you actually have to fight Chaos, you also have to fight a billion stacks of Norsca fucking shits with plenty of missile units.

And just why the Greatswords. Even with all their tech and the red line skill, my rank 6 guys have a laughable 37 melee attack, a charge bonus we don't even have to talk about and 36 damage.

>>165648965
Him and volound

>>165653027
>tfw volound will never finish his comfy third age dwarfs campaign

>>165653257
>he'll never make Attila videos

Are there any Attila modders here?

How do you restrict the actions that armies can take? I know there are mods than prevent armies from entering water except at a port, how do they do that?

>>165649379
10/10

>>165649379
What's this Milan meme? I played Med2 back in the day, but I can't remember them standing out in some way.

>>165653918
>0.03 florins have been deposited to your account

I just got to the minor victory in The Last Roman as the Franks taking most of Italy back and all of France but I got tired of it.

Now I'm starting a game of Charlemagne

Should I play as Charlie the Great or the Lombards and be comfy in Italy?

>>165653918
t. pavise crossbowman

>>165654143
C O R D O B A
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A

>>165654238
>Muslim
Ew.

>>165654143
>Lombards and be comfy in Italy?
Nigger you have no idea. That campaign has the potential to be anything but comfy

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>>165654143

>Should I play as Charlie the Great

The answer is obvious

>>165654143
Play as Westphalia and fuck Charlie in the ass. Afterwards kill muslims with your furor teurtonicus.

MOST FUN TWW CAMPAIGN POWER RANKINGS

1) VLADPIRE COUNTS
>ppppppower gap
2) VAMPIRES COUNTS IN GENERAL
>ppppppower gap
3) GROMBRINDWARFS
4) FUCKING SKARSNIK JESUS CHRIST GRIMGOR HOLD MY FUNGUS BEER
5) WURRZORCS (for like the first 60 turns then it sucks because no Savage Orc Warboss lords)
>grand canyon sized ppppppower gap
6) TREE HITLER
7) MORGHUR
>ppppppower gap
8) DEATHCLAW
>ppppppower gap
9-#) who cares Chaos is hot garbage, Beastmen suck dick because of FOW cheating Welf armies, Emprire LLs other than Franzman are dumpster fires, Greenskins are just painful and Angrund's gimmick is peak boring

Anyone not mentioned deserves to be forgotten.

>>165654563
Gelt isn't really that bad anymore, lore of metal got a buff.

>>165654143
>Comfy in Italy
>With charliemang constantly breathing down your neck
>Avars pushing west
>Client states that hate you
>Pope that really fucking hates you
>''''''roman'''''' Sicilians cunting around too
Not comfy, best campaign in AoC though

>>165648816
Poland? Ive got week free from work so could go and drink some beer with fellow understander

>>165654637

His campaign effects are terrible, ho hum skill tree and bad starting units don't help and lore of metal is still awful compared to the utility and versatility of the other lores.

Greatswords and Outriders are about as useful in the early game for Empire as Gobbo archers for Azhag. And for some reason the auto-resolver punishes GS harshly against shitty Empire garrisons and armies.

>auto resolve against a depleted Secessionist Grunburg garrison, GS take half HP damage rest of the army unscathed.

>>165646484
>there will never be an empire trilogy with first ending in religious wars, 2nd ending in Napoleonic wars and revolutions, and 3rd ending in WW1.
feels bad

>Celtic Berserkers
>Celtic
>Berserkers

It triggers me enough that berserkers are always misrepresented in TW games, but this really makes my autism explode

>>165654143

My favourite campaign for Charlie was modding in the Theme of Sicily.

>>165654563
>1) VLADPIRE COUNTS

Vanguard deployment + lightning strike + Lore of Vampires = Vlad soloing the entire Chaos doomtide. Shit was cash as fuck.

>>165655156

>hippo toxotai
>elite Roman Expedition unit
>literally just the green term for Horse Archer

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>>165649379
This the most beautiful thing I have seen in a long time.
Thank you anon.

>>165654951
>>165654389
FUCK I ALREADY STARTED AS LOMBARDS

I just took venice. What next?

>>165655016
WW1 is a shit idea that would not work
A single (fuck buying a trilogy of fucking games + DLC of CA kikes) empire 2 that stretches from 1700 to mid/late 1800s would be fucking sweet though

>>165655343
>Make trade empire
>Have like 10k cash when Pope asks for ravenna
>????
>PROFIT

>>165644452
Yes, they're pretty fun. Archaon is like a Grimgor that also shoots fireballs, most fun LL to play imo.

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>attila & friends siege my city again
>only my fleet there to defend it
>attila goes on the water with his smaller army
>my neighbour who i didn't even know existed attacks him and drives him away to sea
>mop him up with my fleet
>a couple turns later this
now that's a good feel

>>165654143
>playing TLR as anything other than loyalist romans
what the fuck?

>>165654952
France but if you come to Bordeaux I'll take a beer with you anytime

>>165655871

>loyalist romans
>loyal to Greek "romans"

nah

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Attila x Belisarius x Charlemagne fanfic when?

>>165656118
better than being a soldier for the loose germanic confederation of edgy and rebellious princes

Any word on revamping the tech trees? I mean who spends 15 turns for 2 ranks of artillery recruits as the Empire, all of this just takes way too long.

Speaking of Empire artillery, what is the deal with the Tank, are you supposed to use its cannon or go melee with it? I don't think I'm using them the right way, they never really rack up alot of kills.

Is Rome II worth it with the Emperor Edition

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>>165656118
frankly, its just much more fun to be a loyalist roman, all other options are clearly an afterthought, especially the barbars

>>165656270
Use the cannon to shoot cavalry or high value infantry units, it's pretty accurate and it does enough damage to kill cavalry units in one shot.

>>165656193
So why did belisarius get fucked over and die in disgrace despite being strongly loyal to the emperor?
Being a backstabbing Greek fuck who turns on fellow Christians and sells them out to Muslims is better thank being Frankish?
Kys shitskin

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What a mess, the book is on page 11 but still getting them checked off one-by-one.

Tilea swept the Border Princes early and became a great trading partner and an ally against the Greenskins. Only to get swept themselves by the Elgi. Was able to bail out Belegar and retake most of Karak Izor.

Have to pull back what throngs I have. Blood River valley is constantly besieged either by elgi or urki. I have lords supplementing garrisons but they are locked in their holds.

In the north a few minor Chaos incursions, wiped out the bloodsuckers. Striking the destruction of Zhufbar, but only to make new entries with the Kislevite umgis who declared war on the Empire of Manlings.

War to the north, war to the south, war to the west. And you guys say defensive sieges never happen...

>>165655486
>not telling the pope to fuck off

pathetic

>>165656660
>Not being rich enough to pay whoever you want off
>Not betraying the Pope on your terms, not his
>Not humiliating the pope's pet Frankish lapdog first

So what will the DLC tie-in be with Bretonnia?

What else might we get besides Bretonnia getting flesh out? I'm hoping for either Kislev or southern realms getting beefed up

Also has there been any news on DLC factions getting Regiments of Renown?

>>165656626
How did you get any diplomacy options with Tilea, the guys down there always refuse trade/non-aggression etc for me.

Hey, guys. I am thinking about making a mod for the vampires just like my empire one.

So far the plan is this.
>building chains that cost nothing and add nothing to your treasury.
>human thralls that cost no dark magic to recruit or as upkeep.
>enthralled human generals to operate in uncorrupted lands.
>human buildings reduce chaos AND vampiric corruption.

what do you guys think?

I really wish there were a way to turn of Regiments of reknown sometimes.

>>165657375
Human units?

>>165657006
Greenskin problems and improved trade mod seems to open the markets up a bit, especially when there is a lot of money to be made. I miss that income.

>>165640392
I started playing TWW not long ago, am I missing something or did they dumb the shit out of the campaign map management?
Playing as Empire atm, seem pretty cool but doesn't seem like much troop variety, I mean they can cover different roles but it seems like a fairly shallow roster
Battles are fun, formations are gone though which seems pretty gay, can they be reintegrated?

yep.

here's my empire mod.

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831679533

Basically human thralls because vampires have plenty of humans in their ranks who wish to become vampires one day. Since humans are serving them via own free will, it makes little sense for them to use dark magic as currency.

>>165657781
>steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831679533
Did you work out the problems? I remember you saying there were issues, before. I assume this won't work with a mod that influences the Empire's building priority?

>>165657982
the AI doesn't use these mods
CA made the AI as streamlined as a single drilling mud pipe.

>>165658161
Well there's a mod out there that apparently changes how the AI builds their armies and what buildings they build. Are you saying it wouldn't conflict then? Basically the AI would never use your buildings?

>>165657424
>win a hard fought battle
>have a few troops remaining
>the enemy attacks you again next turn with an army of RoRs only

Fuck off

Holy fucking shit spirit leech got nerfed to absolute garbage. It doesn't do any damage whatsoever. I don't even see the health bar move during the entire duration.

>just gonna send this tier 1 fleet to escort my army across the mediterranean
>i'm sure it's not even needed the ai rarely has strong fleets
>ERE comes at me with 3 fleets altogether including 17 artillery ships
that's how i prefer my fleets, in the bottom of the ocean

>>165659201
Might have miscast it m8

>>165658498
nope. It has an extremely high level of compatibility, but is just extra baggage unless you are playing as an empire faction.

Was I dreaming or could you at one point in time recruit Samnite Gladiators from some cities in Rome 2 if you built gladiator schools? Was that Rome 1?

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Holy shit, do Tercos seriously have better stats than every samurai

Also guess how many units I'll take out

>>165656270

I think Bart from CA said on Reddit it was something they'd like to revisit if they had a chance. Hopefully they do in the Old World Edition. Because Empire technology is easily the worst in the game in terms of cost and time investment relative to the shitty bonuses they give.

Good example of how fucked it is

>Purge Dark Cults: Reduces corruption by +2 factionwide
>Requires:
Tier 4 Provincial Capitol, Tier 2 Worship Building
>Costs in Gold: 18,000
8,000 (T3 & T4 Provincial Capitol)
10,000 (T1 & T2 Worship Buildings)
>Costs in Population: 6
>Costs in Turns: 26* turns
7 turns to take a T2 settlement to T4
7 turns to take a T1 worship building to T2
12 turns to research the actual technology (this might be wrong it might actually take longer)

*This doesn;t include X number of turns in between accumulating the money, and population to actually do any of this. So you're actually looking at nearly 70-80 turns for a measly +2.

The Vampire equivalent that's +2 corruption factionwide, 15 turns, 0 cost and can be done straight though, no buildings required. Shit it wouldn't even be too bad if you could at least research technologies simultaneously as the Empire but nope. Enjoy spending a fucking long time so you can a whole +3 weapon strength on Spearmen.

>>165659201
Offensive magic is garbage, there's still spells who will only do health damage but are completely unable of actually killing a unit off.

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>>165644394
Sure does bbe

>>165659450
Sassy kids have about 50 units of ships and troops just off the coast of Sicily, and havent moved for about a year or two
Ive just left a 20 stack and a small fleet there, as long as the sillykids don't move this armada then I got no problem with them just sitting on their boats watching me constantly

>>165659696
Rome 1, Total War Rome 2 strived itself on it's historical Accuracy

>>165659696
You can get gladiators as garrison in R2 vanilla, don't remember if you can also hire them as usual.

>>165659909
The progression for Empire in particular feels completely fucked. It takes way too long and too much money to get a simple Wizard out there.

T4 Altdorf for ONE guy at first rank and then it is another couple of 10k for the city/college upgrade to get additional wizards.

>>165659745
2

>>165660295
>>165660393

Thanks, I'm sure I remember hiring Samnites in one game, guess it was 1.

You can train gladiators and gladiator spearmen from the gladiator school in rome 2, but I was sure if it was built in either Brundisium or Roma you can recruit samnites. oh well

Guys I am relatively fresh to Total War and I am playing Attila right now. I noticed ranged units have different kinds of arrows. I am however confused about the Heavy Arrow shot type.
Is it worth using? it increases armor piercing but seems to drastically reduce damage. I don't really feel a big difference in using them in battle either.

>>165660937
There are AOR units in vanilla R2 but not in vanilla R1 so I'd bet on 2

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So lads what do you think my chances are?

Will the proud legions of Rome defeat the multicultural alliance?

>>165661493
If facing romans use it, if not don't

>>165661610
Just sit in your ships and wait it out. You will draw if the timer runs out.

>>165659201
Pretty sure the damage is random. The spell is still used in MP to give a slight edge in lord fights. It's not a lord sniper anymore though.

>>165661493
this is an EXTREMELY generalized summary but it's effective if you don't want to autistically cross-reference the stats of every unit

>heavy arrows
melee infantry of all kinds, particularly with spears/shields, since they almost universally have the highest armor (note: shooting them from the front is still a bad idea since they will straight up block XYZ% of projectiles that hit them)

>flaming arrows
exclusively for cavalry and burning down cities (note: it's often smarter and safer to ignite the buildings at the edge of the city and let the fire spread as opposed to trying to set the tower on fire directly)

>normal arrows
counter-battery fire to harass and hopefully kill enemy ranged units, as they're the fastest firing and negate the most enemy firepower which should theoretically prevent losses

>whistling arrows
for firing directly over the giant blob towards the tail end of the battle in order to force a mass rout, ideally with your archers at the sides firing across the line of battle (note: these are not expected to cause casualties, only to inflict a morale debuff, so have cavalry handy to run down enemy units when they break)

>>165661493

I do believe heavy arrows also come with Anti Infantry. Anything with >15 or so armour they are worth using heavies against, imo.

Flaming always against cavalry for the big damage and against surrounded enemies to ensure a rout. Also good for dropping enemy towers in minor settlement battles since sometimes they start a fire that spreads out of control, reducing enemy unit stats in that battle.

Whistling is fucking garbage, never found a use for it.

>>165661493
Use it for heavy armoured opponents
>Mob heavy shot to kill attacking general
>Use flaming/whistling shot to plummet morale
>Avoid ruining your own units morale as much as possible
Congrats you now know the secret for easy town defences/massively outnumbered last stands

>>165656270
stick a missile unit of your choice behind them and aim for monsters or cav

>>165660473

The Empire feels like it was the first faction developed and as a result was developed extremely conservatively. I mean technology in Attila has bigger boons than technology for a fantasy race that rides giant Catbirds.

And yeah their progression in general seems shit. The prices aren't too bad it's mostly the timing and tier of them.

>>165660473
>>165662136

VC is the worst IMHO
wtf is that tech tree, and why do necromancers take so long

>>165661886
>Whistling is fucking useless
No, whistling makes it easy as fuck to break massive armies when you're fucked otherwise
Especially considering how morale works in attila

So what are you guys hoping for in the expansions for Warhammer?
Personally I'm hoping for both Araby and Kislev to get their own rosters. I'm also hoping that in Araby there is a crusading mechanic for Bretonnia with the possibility of crusading states existing.
I'd also like to see a similar mechanic implemented for estalia and the new world for some conquistador stuff.

>>165656270
stick a missile unit of your choice behind them so they have an unobstructed view of whatever it's fighting and try to get some potshots on cab/monsters before the lines clash

>>165661493
unless you're using top tier archers you're honestly better swapping them out for something else, they're not a good source of damage in attila unless it's a siege battle

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>want to expel white man from muh native lands
>get great spirit mod cause I ain't buying warpath for shit
>only compatible with 1.3
>no bigge
>download empire
>steam auto-updates it to 1.5
>can't roll back
>mfw

>>165662402
Or you want to inflict morale damage so you can route and cut down a larger barbar force with minimal casualties?

>>165662334
Personally, you'll be very disappointed.

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What race from TWW is in most need of a revamp?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12115265
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>>165662835

Wood Elves.

They shouldn't be the Tree Reich

>>165662835
If consecutive numbers then VC

>>165662727
other units inflict massive moral damage while also being good at other things

>>165662835
Warriors of Chaos, easily.

>>165662970
AI, how do you replicate whistling shot with legio?
Whistling and flaming shot combined with general sniping and a tiny bit of hammer and anvil is borderline unbeatable against most AI shit

>>165662835

WoC, their pretty ok now in MP but their campaign is atrociously bad.

>>165663274
>game is mostly played in single-player
>balance it around multi-player
Well done CA, well done indeed, however..

>>165661675
>>165661882
>>165661886
>>165662079
>>165662402
Thanks, Guys. Will keep that in mind.

>>165662334
I also hope Kislev will be in the game eventually, they potentially have a pretty fun army to play.

Wood Elves or Argwylon? Seeing as I get amber from alliances and the only win condition is to upgrade the oak, I'm thinking I might just capture Athel Loren and maybe a few areas outside and then chill and occasionally send armies to help out allies. You know, actually play as defensive, isolationist elves as they're supposed to be.

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>>165662790
A man can dream can't he? A man can dream...

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>seleucids are already this far into africa

im scared of whats under the fog

>>165662926

CA says next patch has fixes for their behavior, I'm hoping it doesn't make them go from TURBO CHAOS to dies 3 turns into Beastmen.

>95% chance of success
>critical failure
>sent back about 8 turns across the map

cool

>>165662835
Women of Color, Chaos is the most iconic Warhammer fantasy faction yet it has the worst campaign by far. Fix it, CA. They won't, though.

>>165663675
SP balance is fine more or less.
It's just issues in how smooth the experience is for some factions.
MP balance hardly skews away from SP balance very much, the only thing they need ever change to balance MP is the cost of units.

>>165663906
Tree Hitler best LL.

>>165664358
This is driving me insane on my Attila campaign
I've got bigger fish to fucking fry right now, these fuckers assassinate kings without issue and you can't just stab this one spy mother fucker and always end up getting fucked up and shipped back?
I need to divert my assets elsewhere bad you niggers, stop getting wounded and just kill this mother fucker

>>165664587
Empire is far more iconic for being distinct.
Warriors of Chaos is standard black armoured warrior. Then you've seen 70% of the roster.

>>165664070
>a possible challenge at that point in the campaign
mad jelly

>>165640725
Celtic monks did do a ton of knowledge preservation, copying classical era literature and the like.

>>165664603

I made a mod for Attila that changes spy skill trees by making the first skill in every tree give reduced assassination success chance.

Hurts both me and the AI since you need it to unlock other stuff. Makes the game much more fun, especially AoC.

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>Archers and cavalry easily defeat infantry.
Were the Romans... wrong??

>>165665102
Wow the Romans didn't use cavalry or archers????

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>>165646120
>he actaully thinks they're going back to historical settings

>>165665338
Well it is confirmed. It's just a really long time until we get it.

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>>165665472
Nah historical titles just refer to other settings within the Warhammer timeframe.
CA will change their name to Warhammer Assembly, and GW will launch a line of amiibos you can use in Total War games.

>>165640392


I still can't believe I have to wait one more month to play an already half-finished faction that should've been in the game from the beginning.

Bretonnia better have some crazy new and exciting campaign mechanic or I'm paying CA a visit.

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>>165665602
I believe it

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>>165665472
>Well it is confirmed.

>>165665682
It's going to be Empire with more cav and an annoying, drawn out map position.

>>165664716

To be fair, Warriors of Chaos were the most commonly played WHFB army. So by extension yeah huge dudes in black armor is very iconic.

Nerds love big black men.

>>165665921

Except all Chaos Warriors are literal 7ft tall aryan nordic chads

>>165665682

Darren did say they'll have things that have never been seen before in any capacity. So crossing my fingers it's not Peasant Bowmen (Crossbows).

>>165665921
They were simple to play and paint, both having a big impact on popularity.

>>165666059
maybe they mutate into black guys up in the wastes.
I'd say a lot of them lose their chad ability when their genitals fuse to the inside of their armor.

>>165666191
>inside of their armour
Have you seen slaanesh Artwork?

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>>165666059

And yet they cover their lily white flesh in HARD BLACK armor. And hold their HUGE BLACK weapons with both hands. Some of them are even mounted on BIG BLACK STALLIONS.

>>165646120
Looks shitty. I'd rather have Victoria Total War.

>>165666087

>Introducing the never seen before, fresh out of the oven, brand new, exclusive NEW currency for Bretonnia!

>The Grails (™)!

>Grail Knights can only be recruited if you have enough Grails (™) in your campaign.

>You can acquire Grails (™) by conquering other regions or making alliances with other factions!

>>165666327
Yeah I didn't specify because I thought it would be obvious. 3/4 Chaos Warriors get their genitals fused into the inside of their armor.

>>165666087

Radious was hired by CA so it probably is.

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pronounce this

Can't wait to hear the first bits of news about the upcoming Fallout: Total War

>>165666467

Lil-Beeum

>>165666467
lilybom

>>165666404
I discussed Grail Quests with another anon here once upon a time.
What do you think is more likely?

Dynamic system where you recruit questing knights and complete dynamic missions, being rewarded with grail knights at the end?

OR

EVENT: GRAIL SPOTTED
-1 TURN RECRUITMENT FOR GRAIL KNIGHTS

>>165666467
Loo-loo-bang

>>165666467
lily ba - ayy - yum

>>165666467
Lily bae um
lily the flower
before anyone else
um what was the question again
t. guy with A* in Latin GCSE
Vergil and Tacitus not Homer and Herodutus

>>165662835
>people voting Empire
Fucking what

>>165666613
The discussion prior to that poll started when people were mentioning how Empire felt a bit different to other factions, with far higher requirements for staple units compared to other factions and shit.

>>165666467
It's latin so it's pronounced Lily-bae-um

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pronounce this

>>165666850
Butt

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>>165666467

Lindybeige

>>165666850
thh IS

>>165666850
Total War: Rome II

>>165666613
Chaos is the punishment faggots get for pre ordering or buying a shit tier rip off dlc from kikes

>>165666467
>>165666850
Why are english-speakers not able to pronounce simple latin words?

>>165666850
Ass

>>165666850

Total War: Warhammer

>>165666850
Sagunto

>>165666580

It wouldn't surprise me to be honest.

I still have some hope since they've been working on Bretonnia and hyping it up for almost a year now but who knows.

I'm wondering if their going to give us Regiments of Renown for Bretonnia, because Im' going to be really pissed if they don't.

>>165667068
>lololol sooo funny XDDD
history is dead

>>165667148
>history is dead
That's the point of History though, old stuff that isn't going anywhere

>>165667048
Why can't you """"""Latin""""""" speaking spics not pronounce double cheeseburger and fries when I'm trying to place my fucking order?

>>165667326
Because English a germanic-based language, silly-billy.

>>165667430
>>165667326
English is a bastard language

>>165667326
>""""""Latin""""""" speaking spics
I'm austrian, I'm speaking """"""german"""""""

>>165667326
yamero

>>165653020

you need to use spells to give empire infantry and edge, just like in the TT.

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>>165646120
TOTAL WAR NEEDS PIKE AND SHOT

>white dwarf on the 19th of january

You realize this means that Bretonnia probably won't be released until the 19th of february or something like that, right?

>>165668653
Yes? Was expecting an end of february release for Bretonnia anyway

>>165668653

nobody expected otherwise m8

>>165666463
Are you making jokes?

>>165667007
You got chaos for free if you preorder you moron

The only people who lose are guys like you who bought it after the fact and became extremely butthurt as a result

>>165668971
>semester is just beginning
>brets will literally be released right before spring break

okay I guess, and then what comes next? Is old friend in march or april?

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>>165651050
Why do skaven repeat some words twice twice?

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>>165669605
Nobody knows

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEY7Ton1gO4

>>165667657
But all spells other than the net are shit, in fact I wish I could have 2 light wizards with their own magic pool casting nothing but it.

And if the Empire is so dependant on the Wizards, why do they get them so very late.

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>>165669962
carpets?

>>165670178
Lore of life and lore of shadows have good spells in them

>>165669491
>The punishment faggots get for pre ordering
Learn to read before calling people morons you stupid spastic fuck

>>165670178
>why do they get them so very late.

because silly game design, but you really should give some of the buff spells a try, like the flaming sword of Rhuin or some of the lore of beasts buff spells. They can make the intentionally lackluster empire state-soldier in to a killing machine.