/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Husbando material

1st for alien waifu

4th for ugly ogre triangle face waifu of lucifer

>>165600648
What a way to go.

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>>165600648

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If this actually stopped estus, how often would you use it?

>>165600687
>>165600637
Why are you giving him attention?

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>>165600636

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lewd

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>>165600319
When they glow you lose max health, kncking them down will cancel it.

>>165600637
>>165600687
Hey, it's not nice to make fun of people with fetal alcohol syndrome just because they look different!

THE SECOND DLC WILL FIX THE DARKMOON COVENANT

>>165600865

Stop posting your fugly aliens

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>>165600819
You again >:(

>>165600865
>can't even name 1 reason
>posts alien waifu from the game he hates for no reason

Autism

>>165600778
because it's lucifer using another browser posting his own hate so that he can get people to pay attention to him

>>165600763
then it would be a good offhand for that effect alone

Best starting class for a typical spellsword? going for pyromancy buffs and dex weapons/spears

>>165600992
That does sound like something a tripfag would do.

>>165601038
Knight or pyro probably

>>165601038
If you want to go for pyromancy, how about you start with pyromancer?

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Just got the red eye orb, every invasion is the host plus two or 3 sunfags. What's even the point.

>>165601223
Go invade a boss battle with the glitch

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>>165601223
this is :^)

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>>165601223
>hit-and-run obscuring ring
>hornet riposte
>knock them off with a greatbow/force
Or don't do invasions since they're strongly discouraged. FROM doesn't want you to bully the newcomers.

>>165601223
getting good

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Is it worth pissing off Yuria for the Londor Pale Shade invasion in Farron Keep? The cost of sin removal isn't really a problem, it's more that I'd rather not fight anything else in that fucking swamp again.

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wow rude

What are some best spell / melee combos in DS2?

I'm thinking of doing a build with enchanted weapons, high Int, and Pyromancy flames.

So far I'm looking at the following spells:
Scraps of Life
Lifedrain Patch
Profound Still
Dark Hail

Heavy Homing Soul Arrow
Soul Greatsword
Unleash Magic
Soul Spear
Homing Crystal Soul Mass
Soul Shower

Fire Whip
Great Combustion
Fire Snake
Great Fireball
Flame Swathe

Which of these have the best synergy with a melee build, or highest combo potential? Are there others I'm missing? What spell combos work best?

>>165601591
You should kill the one in the Farron keep too because you need to kill both to get the swag armor set

>>165601549
>this is why you never play souls games on PC

>>165601587
>can't give 1 reason why
>"you talk to me like an asshole so I won't respond"
>"you ask 'x' and I say 'y' but I will never elaborate"

>posts aliens from game he hates
Autism

>>165601223
The game prioritizes hosts with phantoms.

>>165601727
for once I agree with the retarded tripfag

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>>165601223

>Be Darkmoon Blade
>Get summoned for the first time this year to help host in Archdragon Peak
>Literally as I arrive the host and his white phantom kill the invader
>DUTY FULFILLED
>I get a free ear and am sent home immediately

>Get summoned later to help host in Anor Londo
>Kill the Faithful invader
>DUTY FULFILLED
>But get no ears and am sent home with nothing

I just don't understand the PvP in this game.
How could they fuck up simple things like this?
It feels like such low effort shit sometimes.

>>165601591
>punch Yuria 3 times in firelink
>run and reload the area
>don't come close Yuria for now
>get invaded by shade in swamp and irithyll
>absolve sins
>summon shade for pontiff for emote

>>165601612
>using his weapon and expecting him to be cool

>>165601591
It's not hard to trigger his invasion since you can trigger it before you meet the basilisks by hugging the right wall at Farron Keep bonfire. It boils down to whether or not you want to pay the sin removal in order to get the items.

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>boot up PC
>suddenly black screen of death
>panic because i thought all of my DaS1/2/3 save files got fucked
>manage to save them by using a bootable USB linux drive
>mfw

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Im torn whether to finish the DLCs in NG+ in DaS2 or whether to just start DaS3?

>>165601379
u wot?

>>165601727
you don't even play souls. you come to shitpost with your alien and shitpost about how bad it is

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>>165601223

You get creative.

>>165601612
>not pointing up

>>165601801
They don't give a shit. Small shit like this isn't worth paying programmers a patch for.

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So I did end up doing this

Is there any way to improve this?

>>165602010
>being a nazi

woah

parry grandpa just two-shot me

basically fucking max level SL 792 40% absorption 2k HP

Guys is it worth it to use the Moonlight Greatsword in DaS3?

>>165602063

Part of me hopes that they'll fix it in the last DLC.
But I honestly doubt it. They'll probably just shit out another 1 map 2 boss adventure and then wave goodbye.

>>165602238
Parry grandpa?

>>165602306
da

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>>165601987
Healthy reminder to murder all furfags

>>165601928
Be a mound maker, use red eye orb, as soon as it says "invading" use dark sign and while it does the animation switch to an ashen estus, right as it says "Invading as a mad spirit" cast a quick miracle like a buff and then mash the item use button to drink the ashen estus. if you loose all of your souls as you drink it then you did the glitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MJQgpg8-1Y
have fun kill the host during a boss battle. the best part is it doesn't warn the host that you invaded

>>165602313
>4 games where from doesn't give a shit about invasions
>expecting them to care now

Dumb

>>165602392

Millwood BA is pure sex

>>165602516
Unfortunately, the only bow worth a damn. Crossbows not included, of course.

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Reminder.

>>165602357
Hodrick the parry god

>>165602424
>Be a mound maker

I think I fucked up, looked it up on google and can't find the NPC in the tree's crater. Going blind by the way.

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>>165602104
>using not cuckstein's trademark weapon

What's the file name for the dual UGS again?

should i keep my character sl 35+3 and just dick around in cathedral/swamp or if there another level+area with more activity

Those Dancer's blades look fun. How do you build for them?

>>165602636
Oh yeah, he is a beast

what the FUCK is up with the FUCKING JAILORS?

How does the max HP reduction work?

>>165603075
the hilarious thing is that he's not even good but he's still probably the best at using it on /dsg/

its really a bad weapon.

>>165603256
see: >>165600865

>>165602887
progress through the game and do Sirris's questline until at least the part where she summons you to kill her grandfather after that you can join

>>165603132
DEX>INT>STR>FTH
They're fun unless you fight a Hammer, GS, or ultra. The windup means those weapons will have their HA kick in way before you can hit them, forcing you into a passive-reactive playstyle.

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https://discord.gg/t4qjqYG

>>165603278
I won 3 duels with cathedral ugs which is fucking terrible. Literally anything can work in FCs.

>>165602636
Why the fuck did they make him so strong? Of all people too. I wish all npc invaders were as challenging as him. Alva and Kriemhild can be pushed off a cliff, Kirk should have some form of geographic advantage or be equipped with jelly, Pale Shade does too little damage, C8 should invade you at the waters where the big dog is and Tsorig should play his strengths more than just swing. This might be nitpicking and I do enjoy fighting them but after another playthrough they just feel underwhelming. The only one who does give me some trouble is Heysel since her darts hurt and she comes to you under obscuring, making her ambush a little difficult to predict.

>>165602424
holy shit that's fucking rad
that should've been a thing by default as long as the host has at least one phantom

>>165603256
If a Jailer sees you, they'll do a little animation that turns their lantern from green to red and makes a FSSSH noise. (Ignore the smoke, it does nothing and is just a visual effect) While the lantern is red, being in their line of sight applies a rapidly stacking max HP debuff on you for about half a minute or so.
Fighting them 1v1 is easy, just sprint behind them during the long I HAVE SEEN YOU animation and backstab them, they can't drain you while you're behind them. You can also knock them down with heavy weapons or charged R2s, which also disables the drain.

tl;dr: If they're LOOKING AT YOU while the lantern is red, you lose HP.

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So megamule saves are still an instant softban in DS3 right?

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sassy ashen one

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Reminder

>>165603562
I forgot to add that npc invaders feel underwhelming since they improved the AI in DS2 making them use tactics that players would use.

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>shilling discord

>>165603075
w-what?

Judging from comments I guess he's someone in the FCs, which I don't participate in.

Are there other DEX/INT weapons? I have a Crystal Lothric Knight Sword

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>>165603462
Why the shadowverse image?

>>165603458

This guy in here has 40 DEX, 27 STR, and 15 INT though. Using those blades.

>>165601585
The invasion system in DS3 is actually perfectly alright.

The invasion system prioritizing hosts with phantoms means that hosts who summon will suffer the penalty of being harangued by invaders and the invaders serve as a thrill for the host and the phantoms but not something that is going to absolutely rek their shit. The invaders who should be more knowledgeable and skilled at the game since they choose to pvp are at a mild disadvantage but on the other hand they should know the levels, the enemy layouts and so on. The invaders are currently a speedbumb for the hosts unless the invaders stop faffing about and actually use their advantages instead of trying to bully new players into submission using vastly overpowered gear.

One thing that blows about pvp and invading in general is the lack of proper rewards. You should be able to turn in extra covenant rewards or invasion trophies to get upgrade stones like slabs or gems or hard to get consumables like exploding bolts, lightning urns and so on.

just beat nameless king, feels elite man

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*******convoluted*******

>>165603762
Friede's scythe is ok as long as you don't fight any ultras or greatswords. Those just melt through your hyperarmor.

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>>165603256

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>>165604027
That's me
>having CE open at an FC

Is kicking important in DS3? Because I've just spent the last 10 minutes trying to get a hang of it, and whoever programmed the controls should be fucking shot.

Also, jumping. I sure do hope I won't have to do any fucking platforming with this goddamn mess of a move.

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>>165603562
>>165603725

If you want challenging NPC fights, play Bloodborne.

>>165604078
>actually use their advantages
Literally what. Mobs can be seeded, obscuring can work on both sides and hosts never have to fight the invaders. In fact, most of them who end up having more than one phantom just chill behind and fire spells, smart hosts would always fall back and wait until a phantom is summoned to take his place again. It's almost always going to go back a loop so long as the host doesn't fight the invader. There was an anon here who said invaders should just be there to drain resources from hosts and then BC and reinvade in hopes that they run out of their resources (seed, estus, etc.) but even then they would d/c or go through a fog wall so in the end what's the point of invasions? It sounds like a waste of time, you're right that there are no rewards other than the hope that you would kill a host on the chance that they mess up.

>>165604027
Post Garbman's. That's gotta be some good shit.

Start Pyromancer or Sorcerer for MLGS build?

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>>165603562
>>165603725

Play Demon's Souls and BB.

NPCs are 10 times stronger than those in DaS, they'll fuck your shit up.

>>165603256
There's a invisible cone on their eyes that hits your torso and drains your max hp. If you do a gesture to avoid the invisible ray then you would never get hit by them.

First thing you should do is try to backstab or rush them with a knockdown attack. UGS, great axes or CGS should be able to knock them off and then finish them on wakeup. For the Jailer orgy near Profaned Capital's entrance, you can either pick them out 1 by 1, kill them by ranged attacks or rush them before they can land a hit.

>>165604553
/bbg/ plz

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>>165605064

Already told you they were fine...

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Speculating about DS3 cut content makes me cry. Imagine a Dark Souls 3 that was made into the quality standards of Bloodborne.

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>>165604553
>bloodborne
>challenging npc player fights

>>165605154
Imagine a Dark Souls 3 with two more years of development

>>165604095
What am I looking at?

>>165605302
>turn chain gun sideways
>still fires in a straight line
NEVER EVER MUSTARDS XD

We got a weapon roll chart for DaS3? I fancy doing a run one the weapons that doesn't see much time in the light.

>>165605302
>A machine gun for an arm? Oh, no fucking way!

>>165605309
imagine a dark souls 3 were your weapon does damage when it actually connects to your enemys.

>>165605112
>still wins
l m a o

>>165604553
>Challenging NPCs
>Instantly remember that fag NPC in Byrgenwerth that could oneshot you with his magic.

>>165605467
Tailbone dagger

>>165605154
DS3 is already in higher tiers of fromsoft quality standards and arguably makes a number of things like level or boss design much better than BB.

>>165605557
fuck i need a webbum of me BRRRTing down that cunt, too

>>165605083
DeS NPCs are pure bullshit if you're talking about the Black Phantom versions. They're not 'hard' by virtue of having good mechanics to them but because they have a fucktonne of hp and kill you in one shot.

Bloodborne NPCs are acrually challenging in ways other than just having absolutely insane health.

>>165605109
I don't go to /bbg/ but only parry king hodrick or Vilhelm even come close to even basic BB NPC fights.

>>165605686
>Bloodborne NPCs are acrually challenging in ways other than just having absolutely insane health.
oh yes, they also have infinite bullets and 99 in all stats

BB shouldn't have had NG+

they don't need it since they have an infnite amount of Ajq9zjh5's and py58wgn6's to play through

>>165605765
>infinite bullets

fuck i wish i could get BB on PC just so i could use the chaingun with unlimited ammo

>>165605373
>using almost 20 bullets, on a BLT, to take out one easy NPC
>claiming it is not difficult

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Damn it

>>165605601
>level design
>ds3 being better than BB
Lmauu, the bosses maybe but level design and checkpointing in DS3 is utter shit, giving you a bonfire every 4 enemies.

Aside from a couple of levels, DS3 level design is a travesty especially from the checkpointing perspective.

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>got invited TWICE to a git gud steam group by a greatshield turtler in the arena

>>165606094
Just run past them, there is nothing worth getting in that place.

>>165603256

All I know is that their grab is a one hit kill

>>165606238
If you get caught just spam roll, they will always do the grab after that.

>>165605947
lucifer did you reply to the wrong post?

try this one >>165605302

the gatling gun in that webbum is only +6 and has no gems

>>165605864
??
The NG+ is for making things more challenging you numbnuts.

>>165605557
You can interrupt his fagmagicks.

Why is everyone so crazy about softbans?

Did fromsoft step up their detection or some shit

>1 month after launch
>constantly spawn in shitloads of items&crafting stuff
>changed name and other shit
>never banned

>>165606154
DS3 levels are generally twice as big as BB ones, have much higher amount of side paths to explore, sometimes even alternative routes and generally have way more thought put into them. The only BB levels that can provide a competition is first 3 Yharnam levels plus upper cathedral ward, after which level design goes to complete shit and never recovers.

Given how much healing items BB throws at you, it already has too much lamp posts as well.

>>165606371
seriously i cheated in 2 entire characters with every fire unlocked just to see if their builds were good in pvp and im not banned

>>165606094

Why is this shield so popular?

Shit is ugly as sin

>Killed Vinheim
>Forgot to give him the Golden Scroll before that.
Welp, there goes my miracle achievement.

Anyone want to bully deacons?

NG+7, place your signs down outside the room.

Bring your AoE spells

>>165606459

It has better stability than the Llelwyn one

>>165606459

The Buckler also looks like shit and the Caestus is for edgelords

>>165606371

Reddit.

>>165606371
I'm mostly in the same boat, I'm not sure if it's all really just random or anyone that was banned had it happen because they did something fucking stupid and online.

Although I'm pretty sure I did get softbanned in DaS2, but I really don't know for sure or care to check.

>>165606578

Do people really use small shields for blocking more than 1 attack?

>>165606619

What about llewellyn? it's pretty, sacred bloom too.

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Why do people rate this game so insanely high in the souls series? It's not infrequent that I see it on the top of peoples tier lists. Why?

I just finished a replay, and it's a fine little game, don't get me wrong. But in a series as good as souls? It just feels like a beta version of DaS. It has two memorable bossfights in total (Flamelurker and Allant), its combat is the most barebones in the series and feels extremely clunky to play, the level design is alright but nothing spectacular, it's extremely easy as far as this series goes, and the atmosphere doesn't really grab you with how disconnected the worlds you go to are.

It's a fun game and I'd rate it around 7-8/10, but it's at the bottom of my souls games tier list.

>>165606451
>>165606624
so basically you can swap items, but not directly spawn then.

So creating a new character(offline with the plug pulled), literally giving almost any armors and weapons in the game, speedrunning through most bosses and then go online is completely fine

>>165606684
The majority of people whining about softbuns likely did as you say, they did stuff while online and then proceeded to deny it when complaining about finding themselves booted.

>>165606876
>It just feels like a beta version of DaS

It is. It's a neat game but its too flawed for me to say its fantastic.

>>165606708
High stability is important for one attack.

At 62 stability, blocking a fume rolling attack deals around stamina damage equivalent to 8 rolls

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>>165606876
>It has two memorable bossfights in total (Flamelurker and Allant)

Stopped reading there.

>>165606876
It was a lot better than other games out at the time. The PvE was deeper and more intricate than the other games. It is probably the most atmospheric in the series. MiB is the least annoying level slut.

>>165606883
yep
>get soverignless soul burial gift
>swap it so great hero or whatever the biggest soul it
>change stack form 1 to 99
>level
>buy a set of chain armor and swap it to your armor
>use the rest of the hero souls to swap in ashes, shards, rings, whatever
>enable every fire
bam done

>>165606876
Godly atmosphere and lore, high amount of non-fixed glitches allowing for far more build diversity than developers initially intended, largest griefing possibilities of all souls games, solid level design. Overall i rate it much higher than DS2 and almost on the same level as DS1/3/BB even though it feels pretty outdated right now.

>>165606876
part of it is nostalgia

>>165606436
BB never had such inexcusably shit level design like DS3 where they gave you a new bonfire after killing 4 enemies unless it's a start of a new area. And in BB lamps don't give you your heals back, the vials are finite.

Some DS3 levels are really good like Cathedral of the Deep or Grand Archives but then there's shit like Irithyllbwhere they give you a bonfire for Wolnir, then they give you a bonfire for Irithyll start, a bonfire for central irithyll and after a tiny stretch of level they give you the FOURTH
which should've been the first bonfire after Wolnir and the ONLY one for Pre-Pontiff Irithyll.

>>165607290
but the great heal miracle in bloodborne is overpowered as fuck so this point is moot

>>165607189
As a storypiece? Sure.

As a boss? I don't know if I even classify it as a boss.

>>165607213
>enable every fire
isn't that risky tho? Not having killed any bosses and still having all bonfires. Could imagine this triggers something

>>165606876

In my opinion, Demon's Souls has the best final boss out of all the Souls-like games that From made.

True King Allant is the only one that really made you think about a character that had been mentioned and name-dropped during the entire game, and how he's a grim reflection of the player.

The rest of them are self-indulgent power fantasies.

>>165607409
you could just enable one hit kills+noclip and warp around killing bosses before going back online

>>165607191
>most atmospheric in the series
PLEASE
HELP ME
EUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH

>>165606876
Nostalgia.
You can blatantly disregard any reply that says atmosphere.

since no one wants to come bully deacons does anyone have any AoEs they want me to try out on them?

will record for entertainment purposes

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>>165607393

Bosses aren't only about gameplay.

The bossfight is 10/10 in every single other department, and the battle itself against Vinland is okay enough. That together makes it my favourite Souls boss in the whole series.

>>165607290
>BB never had such inexcusably shit level design like DS3 where they gave you a new bonfire after killing 4 enemies
It has worse for a game giving you immense amount of healing and ability to restock healing supplies right in a middle of level.
>And in BB lamps don't give you your heals back
Suiciding is free.
> vials are finite
And drop like candies from virtually everything.
>where they give you a bonfire for Wolnir, then they give you a bonfire for Irithyll start, a bonfire for central irithyll
First 3 have virtually zero impact on gameplay and path between the beginning of Irithyll up to Yorshka's Church is the most brutal difficulty jump in the entire DS3, people are dropping fucking dead there during my SL invasions without me not even lifting a finger.

Regardless of what you think about bonfire placement, DS3 levels surpass BB levels in virtually all aspects.

>>165607213
How safe is enabling 100% drop rate? Farming concords is a fucking chore.

>>165607763
haha o wow

>>165607812
100% droprate is a meme
get one legit (or not if youre a cool guy) and change the stack from 1 to 31, then head to yorshka and give the extra 30 for your rewards
and if its just for the ring you can swap that in no problem, im not too sure about dmb

>>165607763
>And drop like candies from virtually everything.
Either you haven't played the game or you played on the first area.

>>165606876
I'd say nostalgia/desire to justify buying a 500$ paperweight that's only good for that game.
Or maybe people just genuinely enjoy playing a game that basically chokes whenever there's something happening on screen.

DeS had great atmosphere and consistent level design, but from pure technical merits the game is janky garbage today

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>>165607034
>blocking a fume rolling attack
lmao

>>165608074
>$500
Its like $100 now.

>>165607763
Well how about Settlement, then?
They give you a bonfire when you come in, another after killing 4 or 5 enemies, then giving you two more bonfires in the same level, both of which are unnecessary due to the physical shortcuts in the level.

>>165607961
Game gives you two in the Irithyll as treasures so yeah. Thanks for the tip man.

>tfw can't fucking decide how i want to build my NG+99 challenge character

all my stats will be close to max eventually, yeah, but what do i do until then??

Is 80+8 a good SL and WL to invade the DLC?

>>165608432
I think the really bad ones are
Road of Sacrifices > Halfway Fortress > Crucifixion Woods
and
Dancer > Lothric Castle > Dragon Barracks
There's so little in between these that I don't know why they're set up like they are.

>>165607608
Morne's or Wolnir's weapon art.

>>165608637
100 +10 is better imo, but I'm biased so ignore me

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Thanks for joining.

>>165608432
>Well how about Settlement, then?
Absolutely the same deal as with Irithyll, only you have 4 flasks instead of 9 and each of them heal for half of what you have post-wolnir. The only truly unnecessary Settlement bonfire is the second one though avoiding dog gank is not what i would call a bad thing.

>>165608432
The first bonfire is just for convenience so you don't have to do the flying again.

The second one is the "real" bonfire of that level.

The other two is pretty well played imo(one is slightly hidden and another one is after quite a few enemies).

>>165608637
at 80 you need +10
vast majority of DLC hosts are around SL90-100 though. There's occasional 70-80 but there's like 20% of them at most.

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>>165608754
>bullying the dog
I'll find you right after I finish my lunch

Hey guys can someone help me with the Champions Greatwolf fight? I just wanna PVP :(

>>165608680
There's a lot of angry Corvians between road of sacrifices and halfway fortress.
Post-Dancer castle up to Barracks is one big gauntlet with lots of buffed up hollows and lothric knights protected by casters. I can see why the bonfire is there.

>>165609118
if PC, sign is outside 3crab next to snowy depths bonfire

pass dsg

>>165601619
Fucking christ

So no one responded to this but now I'm actually trying some spell combos and nothing hits. Once in a while I'll land a heavy homing soul arrow or soul shower, but I can't hit with anything else. Are spells just not meant to be primary damage in DS2?

>>165609118
Kill the faggot before the wolf shows up, the boss is piss easy if you have already fighted against Aava and Sif.

>>165608846
That's where you compare this to DaS. Kill Iron Golem, earn no bonfire, fly, no bonfire yet, past 3 enemies, then you find a bonfire. Yet no one complains there's no bonfire before the anor londo one

>>165609292
Nobody would have complained if there was a bonfire right after the cinematic though.

>>165609292
>That's where you compare this to DaS
should we really compare a game that gives you 10 free flasks ten minutes into the game with ability to get 20 in an hour to a game where collecting even 10 estus flasks only happens near the midgame?

>>165609143
There is only 1 optional fat knight between castle and barracks bonfires.
Enemies in your way are like 6 or so hollows, all stunlockable and 2 of which are just crossbow ones. Barracks bonfire is pointless

>>165608921
>>165608716
Hm, would've thought it'd be lower than that. I suppose that gives me more stats to throw into my build though.

>>165609196
Thanks for the help sunbro!!

>>165609292
I think adding more bonfires in this case is a quality of life adjustment, and I don't think the game was dumbed down too much for it. I always felt like the bonfire in Sens should have been more visible for example, but suggesting this kind of stuff tends to upset the "this is supposed to be hardcore" audience.

>>165609653
d-did you like my name

>>165609445
A sentinel takes about as many hits to kill someone with 10 flasks(likely only 5) as a farmer hollow does to someone with 5 flasks. No one goes get rite so early

>>165609775
>No one goes get rite so early
it's so easy you can do it right after your arrival

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/dsg/ please help, I need a build to use for my second playthrough of DS3

Any suggestions?

>>165609901
bow only is always fun

Was Lorian crippled or what?

>>165609901
Heysel pick

Mace

Ultra greatsword

>>165609856
It's also a waste of time to do it pre lordvessel. No plauer actually does that even on further playthroughs unless they really want other loot from there early

>>165610041

After he told his brother to curse him.

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Cute, lonely, nun who is technically still a virgin looking for a strapping young knight or two to escort her through the Painted World

PC
pass: dsg

>>165610041
>Before Lorian embraced his brother's curse, he was a knight who single handedly slayed the demon prince, but the victory eternally scorched his sword with flame.
>Lorian, raised as a knight, is said to have been left mute and crippled by his younger brother's curse. It is also said that Lorian, in fact, wished it so.

>>165610198
on my way as fuck

>>165608705
rendering webbum

>>165610198
Oceanmy man, if only would've asked earlier not when it's 3:25am in my timezone

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Just got summoned to lost sinner on NG... Guy mustve sent the elevator back up to the top cus when i rolled back to get some distance from the monster that was swinging its shit around i fell into a little pool.

>>165610198
>technically still a virgin
So she's only taken it up the pooper?

>>165610117
>>165610242
>He asked to be cursed

Why the fuck would he do that?

>>165610662
Lothric was dying from a horrible curse and asked Lorian to take part of it so he didn't. Lorian loved him because they were brothers and accepted, hence the "embraced"

>>165610684
Ironclads are from berserk?

>>165610662

Maybe he had enough of the royal family scheming and shit for muh flame and reconciled with the condition with his brother. Since they were using him as a tool, he probably asked to be cursed as a fuck you to the family.

I'm probably dead wrong.

>>165610662
Brotherly love.

>>165610198
sign's down and ready

holy shit abbess asteria i am fucking laughing my ass off so hard

be careful where you use emit force, it has friendly fire enabled

>>165610840
>>165610885
>>165610861

Shit, now I kinda feel bad for killing him. Like most of the bosses of Soulsborne.

It looks like we keep killing good guys for no apparent reason.

>>165610684
The dark souls 1 greatsword looks so funny and sad after having seen the dark souls 2/3 greatsword.

>Toothpick ultra greatsword

>>165605302
that's one of the shitty chalice NPCs, not the main story one, and that's also a late game DLC weapon

crow of cainhurst is still more challenging than any other souls NPC

>>165611147
considering how linking the fire is considered the bad end, yeah you did kill the good guys, because they had the exact same idea.

>>165611175
>late game

nigger you can get it immediately after killing amelia with little to no effort using a roflspear

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>>165610841

>>165610095

I always do it

It takes literally less than 10 minutes to get the gravelord greatsword, kill pinwheel and get the rite and a mask.

>>165610095
>NO PLAYER DOES THAT
Well I did. You sure are foolush now huh.

>>165609661
Well your 'quality of life adjustments' sucked all the tension and fun out of DS2 and 3. I hope the next From game is a Sony exclusive both to make casual pcucks cry and to make sure From gets to do the game they want without the publisher telling them to instantly casualize it.

>>165611328
it's 28 strength and 12 dex, it's mid to late game at best

>roflspear

rifle spear? I hope the fuck not because that thing is mediocre at best. You better not post some old ass webm of someone stunlocking someone to death with it

>>165604553
More like annoying npc fights.

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>>165611305
Linking the fire is only considered bad end by psshhh nothing personnel edgelords who believe in the lies of Kaathe.

>>165611769
what's difficult about killing ameilia and being a Kirkfag with 28 strength?

roflspear is to be used against djura's apprentice T'd cR2 is the longest range attack in the game outside of beastcutter

>>165611561
>immediately goes into consolewar shit

Jesus. Having bonfires right after a flying area doesn't really change anything.

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>>165608705
Here you go lad. Did quite a bit more damage than I expected. 66/39/60 fai 668 AR 2h + sacred oath

Sign's down by snowy mountain pass @ ocean & friends btw

why the fuck don't axes and maces have more interesting movesets?

you can hate sotfs all you want but holy fuck those movesets were universes away from this boring ass shit

>>165611961
nothing? that doesn't really change the point I was making, it's not really difficult to kill chalice npcs either.

>needing spear for that

just fight him you cheeseball

>>165612318
>ywn powerstance in DS3

feels bad

>>165612318
Axes have a pretty neat moveset imo. They also have warcry r2 moves to take into account.

>>165612318

>axes and maces

Those are the movesets you pick from all all things from 2? Granted some axes had different movesets but they weren't that unique, the problem with axes in 3 is more how statwise they are all exactly the same with the Millwood being the clear best one. Hammers in 2 meanwhile all had the same trash moveset and were awful beyond being initially useful in PvE, the only 'unique' one was the Mace of the Insolent which was outdone as both a weapon and a catalyst by a fucking shield.

>>165612594
warcry R2s should just be fucking baseline holy shit

the fact warcry is a fucking weapon buff and not a body buff is retarded as fuck

Put your sign down at the snowy mountain pass bonfire quema

>>165612508
there is no fucking point other than pride for fighting enemies without having advantages of your own

btw the gatling gun in that webm was +6 with no gem

>>165612778
>tfw you hyperarmor trade with with a fast warcry'd r2 and combo with an r1.


DAMAGE

Glad it has some tools. I think you also can easily roll catch with the follow up r1. That 3 hit damage.

>>165611153
It's the best ultra greatsword though.

At some point between DS1 and DS2 From decided that holding an ultra greatsword upward using only one hand would be impossible, so it got rid of the one handed thrust attacks of all UGS.

>>165612863
is it not showing? ive had it down for the past minute

>>165612949
the gatling gun is also a shit weapon that will have you spending way more bullets than necessary for complete overkill if you're going through a chalice

cannon is superior

/dsg/, how do I into PvE pyromancer in DS3?

>>165613118
>so it got rid of the one handed thrust attacks of all UGS.

Well I guess it only makes sense for that tiny ultra greatsword.

>>165612949
I bet you cheesed crowsteel by leaving the cathedral too huh

Finally got around to picking up DS3, are miracles more powerful than sorcery or pyromancy or what's the tier list there? What about strength vs dex vs quality?

>>165613269
>PVE pyromancy?

What do you even have problems with here?

I'm playing demons soul's, how the fuck am I supposed to kill this spear guy that just heals forever in Boletarian Palace?

>>165613463
chain backstab

>>165612772
other weapons in das3 are fine

straight swords have versatile movesets with stance weapon arts

there's already a few greatswords with das2 2hr1s. hollowslayer spear is probably the funnest weapon in-game if you aren't being a poisefag with it

>>165613324
max damage gatling actually

>>165613437
I've never used any form of magic except for Darkmoon blade and healing miracles
I don't know what stats to invest in

>>165613348
Damage/hit-wise in pvp it's

Pyromancy > Sorcery > Miracles

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I don't like Sen's Fortress.

>>165613463
Try aggroing 1 at a time, easier to do with thief ring and a few throwing knives
Or chain backstab like other anon said. Stay unlocked, it's easier to backstab when unlocked

>>165613463
If you've just started the game, there's no reason for you to go that way at all until later.
He's intended to kick your ass.

Sign's by the back door to friede's house ocean

t. faith cr8

>>165613684
Is it the same for pvp? Or is it pretty much even?
What about strength or dex for weapons?

So I've decided that ALL CASTER BUILDS IN DS2 ARE COMPLETE TRASH.

Even at max cast speed, all spells are so slow they can be easily rolled out of and leave the caster extremely vulnerable.

The ONLY spells fast enough that can't be easily rolled out of do less damage than a basic melee attack, making them pointless to punish people with.

This means that casting only makes sense for support or as R1 spam against people who don't know the roll timing for various spells, and since the game is 2 years old there are few to none of those people left.

>>165613652
>I don't know what stats to invest in

Both int and faith


>>165613706
It might not work that well in a souls game, but it feels really great to reach anor londo after it.
Hellish(and sometimes bad) levels really makes you appreciate the more "safer" levels in a game.

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NEXT DLC NEWS WHEN?

>>165612318
Axes and maces were a fuckload better in DS3 than they were in in 1 or 2.

>>165613463
If it's the Red Eyed knight in 1-1 you should save him until later because you can't do anything with him anyway.

>>165613831
>Is it the same for pvp?

You mean pve right?

Miracles has always focused on support spells, but the damaging spells are still nice. All of them are pretty strong in pve, but since they are elemental it depends on the area you are in I guess.

Lightning is very good at dragon-like enemies

Magic is often good against armoured enemies

Dark beats ice enemies in dark souls 3

>>165613992
January 26th is the next event fromsoft is scheduled to be at

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>>165613992
>early 2017
>No news yet


???????

>>165614002
i don't care if they're good or not, I want them to be FUN

this goes for any weapon in the game. left yhorm's is meta is fuck, yet it's infinitely boring as hell

>>165614156
Lightning is good against everything that isn't also lightning*

Also, sorry I died ocean, I got too greedy with my Lightning Storm AoE damage stacking abuse

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Be honest with me /dsg/

What's keeping you here?

No patches
No DLC info

>accidentally use up all my mana in the Yhorm fight
>Siegvard dies

Did I miss anything from him? I got his armor set, shield, and second stormruler

>>165614725
kek, I've finished my first playthrough on DS3 and I'm already have no purpose anymore. I think I'll make another character.

>>165614834
>use up all my mana in the Yhorm fight
liar

>>165614834
no that is the stuff he drops if he lives through the fight

>>165614947

I didn't fully charge stormuler, and I did the R2, doing a weapon art that used up my stamina, like two or three times

>>165614725
jolly coop
bullying lucifer
shitposting
the most unusually addictive gameplay ever conceived by man
nothing but experimentation

>>165614725
Farming Vertebra Shackles and Pale Tongues
I'll start hunting for the 107 rings achievement after that.

>>165614725
I'm in the middle of doing a faith playthrough. Also FCs with /dsg/ people

>nothing will ever live up to soul of cinder

Alright, I give up. DS2 Int PvP is pointless, there's no reason not to just go melee. Spells for buffs and heavy homing soul arrow, nothing else.

>>165614725
Using bone fist in DaS2. No weapon in DaS3 compares. Hoping they bring something similar in the next DLC.

>>165614725
I like to talk about the games with like-minded people. I don't really care about pvp, I like to discuss stuff like level/encounter design and the aspects that contributed to each games' respective atmosphere.

>>165615539
It's a shitty final boss.

>>165615575
Back in the day, Dual Blue flames was boss. Could buff both swords, and basically bait rolls with standard melee, then launch a CSS for the kill.

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We lost one valiant knight along the way, but in the end we were victorious

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I fucked up by playing DS3 blind.

I put 14 levels into luck, thinking it did more than just item discovery. I just beat the Abyss Watchers but I'm thinking of making a new character after wasting all of those SL's.

I should just reset, right?

>>165615901
The only spells I can ever hit with are soul spear barrage, soul shower, and heavy homing soul arrow. They only hit for ~200 damage each. What's the point? How do you actually land a CSS without getting backstabbed or hit by climax/forbidden sun while casting? The startup times for casting is so ridiculously slow that they can sprint all the way up to you, roll and attack in the time it takes for you to throw out the soul spear.

>>165616101
Go reset at Rosaria
Or just start a Bleed Build

>>165616101
nigga just respec

>>165616101
>14 levels
>wasted

use anri's straight sword. you'vep robably met her already at the "halfway fortress" bonfire

>>165615539
It's a toss-up between Allant and SoC for me.

>>165616160
>>165616191
Didn't realize I could respec so early in DS3, thanks for letting me know. I have no idea why I chose to level luck like that.

>>165616345
There's a whole infusion dedicated to damage with luck.

You worry too much.

Is cheating still a thing in ds3 or have they cracked down on it yet?

>>165613901
if I wanted to stop at SL 125 where should I stop leveling up my stats?

>>165616507
100-120
80 if you want a somewhat challenging DLC

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>>165616493
happened yesterday
>pulls out cursed sword
>STILL dies

>>165616608
So is that somebody turning on invincibility or something? What about trainers for free souls?
I want one character for going through the game legit, and another to rush to pvp and sit there

what's your highest rated message?

mine is 178

>>165616592
no im gonna stop at SL 125
I mean when should I stop leveling up my faith and intellect

CKUGS is good for medium/low levels right?

>>165616765
The person that recording it just didn't get hit because "Giant Dad" sucks ass. Also editing your souls directly will get you insta-banned.

>>165617116
Bummer, but alright.
Is that thing of using backups to copy items still in?

>>165614725
I'm actually, unironically enjoying dks 3 again ever since I started playing my 99 mage again. The poise patch made things way more bearable too now that you can actually keep track of your enemy's remaining poise like you could in dks 1.

>>165617194
I have no idea. Trainers are retarded. Everyone uses CE scripts.

Need help on ornstein and slough Xbox 360 level 45. Thanks

Is Ds3 still alive? Is it worth coming back to at all?

>>165616998
40int/40fth

>>165616931
I got like 100 upboats in a message I left in Shrine of Amana in 2014.

>>165617578
No it's dead fuck off

>>165613706
To me Sen's Funhouse was breath of fresh air between upper blighttown and anal londo.

Does anybody actually do the bell tower online? Ive had the ring on at the servants quarters bonfire for like half an hour now and nothing.

>running two-handed black knight greatsword hit stunlocks smough

Does it do this with all the bosses?

>>165618271
>what is poise

nigger just use a zweihander

Is it ok to be 122? I don't want to respec.

>>165618338
That's what I'm using old help zwei bro.>>165617376

>>165618426
Just go to 125 if you're already 122

god i hope there's a unique weapon like a greatsword or hell, even paired avelyns or avelyn-likes with innate mundane scaling.

Also, is it wrong to want the Fume Sword back?

>>165608074
I spent half that for a system that can play PS1, 2 and 3 games.

>>165616608
>giant dad
>not using zweihander
baka tbqh

>>165618893
can a ps3 really play ps1 games?

am I just completely blind or is the Maiden in Black not at the Nexus until I do something?

>>165619187
How did you not know this?

>>165618228
DS2 is pretty old now, man. you'd only catch people who want to fight on purpose or sales people with their pants down there if you were in the right SM

post crusader fashions

>>165614725
got it for christmas, been slowly working through my first playthrough

I feel like I'm gonna hate ithryll dungeon

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What's your favorite SL 20 twink build? I'm about to start my first twink build to utilize the boss-invade glitch.

>>165619405
>I feel like I'm gonna hate ithryll dungeon

Guys, tell him...

Can somebody explain to me how the Pontiff, Lorian/Lothric, and Champ Gundyr managed to be the best boss fights of the game? Is it because almost all the other bosses are gammick fights?

>>165619317
people don't know everything about your shit system

>>165619467
isn't there a nuke sorcerer build you can do for sl20 that you can basically 100-0 anyone with a single spell?

maybe it's a sl40 something build I forget

>>165619263
You need to finish 1-1 first

>>165619187
>>165618893
No, it can't, and he's bullshitting (again) to make a point about how much better he is than everyone else.

PS3 could barely play PS2/PS1 games and only some models had the software emulator built in. Most of them couldn't even read the discs. A lot of games didn't work with the emulator, especially since some PS1 games came on different disc formats (black disc vs silver disc for example)

>>165619634
>calling something you don't know about shit

You'd fit in better over on /v/, buddy.

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>>165619467
>>165619646
Adjust as needed, and obviously have someone drop you everything

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hey guys

>>165619998
>not even wearing the bunny hood
>not even wearing darknut armour

Why even bother?

>>165619998
how many texture mods does it take to get a (you)

>>165619773
I have the 60 GB model.

>>165619597
>Homoprinces
>not a gimmick fight
Nice meme, brah.

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I'm glad I have a loyal friend to help me out. I've always wanted to fight alongside the Crestfallen

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anyone still playing Demons at all? been thinking about doing yet another playthrough for laughs, maybe something gimmicky besides the usual magic or dex build

also what soul levels tend to have the largest summoning likelihood? was thinking about doing an SL1 run but with only SL10 and below to work with, i predict a dead run in regards to coop/invasions

This boss invasion talk has renewed my interest in the series, haven't played in at least 8 months.

Is B-team going to remove it soon?

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>>165620096
it's fun to make stupid shit

>>165619791
Oh the ungodly irony.

>>165620215
There were 2 60GB models, one had hardware emu (could read the discs) and one was software emu only.

Only the hardware ones could play PS1 games, and the software ones could play SOME (half) PS2 games and PS1 games, and not without errors.

If you bought your PS2 any time after launch, you have the bullshit software emu version and you're just kidding yourself if you think it has backwards compatibility. Demanding that your FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS 10 year old system that you bought off some schmuck on ebay is superior to a PS4 solely because it can play "PS1 PS2 and PS3" games is the most fucking stupid thing to argue over anyway.

Everyone with a computer can play PS1 and PS2 games better than your console can.

Do you seriously just sit here waiting for chances to pretend you know what you're talking about every time you post, and just hope you never get called out on your bullshit?

>>165619405
>ithryll dungeon
It will be disappointingly short. But not as bad as Propaned Capital.

>>165620473
>This boss invasion talk
Que?