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/blog/ - BL + Otome General #159

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News/Upcoming:
http://www.cool-b.jp/calendar.php
http://otomex.net/calendar

FAQ & Resources:
http://pastebin.com/PxzvdMjA

Rec chart:
http://pastebin.com/dDnYWGem

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JP wikis:
http://wikiwiki.jp/toulove/
http://tohken.gamerch.com/

EN wiki:
http://touken-ranbu.wikia.com

Official twitter accounts:
https://twitter.com/TOUKEN_STAFF
https://twitter.com/tkrb_ht

Downloads (game rips, scans, radio, etc):
http://pastebin.com/S3g8mVWh
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2 years!
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>>165548187
Only two? Time seems short yet long at the same time.

So how goes swords? Have you guys seen desired elements implemented or anything?
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>>165548870
>Have you guys seen desired elements implemented or anything?
They haven't even implemented mass dismantling. Feels like they are planning on spamming new swords instead of thinking on a new type of event or anything.
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>>165552117
Is it wrong to think that the continued popularity should have pushed this?
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>>165548870
It's the same as always, and I always have something to do now thanks to new swords and lots of event.
It's definitely better now than a year ago.
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>tfw he uses all those nyans to imitate a cat begging for headpats
I'm starting to see the light on why pursuing a relationship with Niina was a good thing. Arashi's a nice balance for him. Still, nothing beats Seiji's unusual hilarious explanations for the MC's skinship moves.
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>>165556924
Is he clutching his chest like a pure maiden?

Yes I am ashamed for not playing this yet.
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>>165556924
Forever wondering what exactly MC is doing during skinship mode. They act like she's stroking their dicks.
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>>165554523
Not at all. My guess is that the pocket version is delaying everything they are planning, since they couldn't even make the bead event working in time.
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>>165559435
Is it implications because of the rating or are some or the guys pure cherries getting excite?
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>>165552117
>instead of thinking on a new type of event
But they are.
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>>165565628
>new type
What? All recent events were easier rehashes of their first versions.
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>>165565878
Yesterday during the talk event they said they're coming up with a new event.
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>>165566387
There was a talk event?
Fuck, was it streamed?
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>>165566776
Nope.
Comic natalie and touken kouryaku have reports about it.
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>it's snowing outside

What will you play while staying warm in bed? I just mite have to finish DMMd.
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>>165556924
>It's a flirtatious /fa/ fuccboi
>Except he's actually smart as hell, a pure spaghetti dropper, can beat your ass in judo, and likes to fish beneath the cherry blossoms

Best kouhai.
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>>165570473
I've only played one route of Dmmd two years ago and still haven't gotten around to the other routes.

Anyone else have a problems being interested in other routes once you've finished one?
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>>165575309
Only if the game isn't very good.
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>>165575309
Happens to me often. Even if I enjoy a game, after a route or two I might begin to lose momentum and I start feeling the temptation to play one of the many new games I have waiting for me.
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>>165576283
If you begin to lose momentum then it's either not a very good game.
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>>165575309
That makes it even worse. I'm just an anal faggot when it comes to not clearing. Only doing this will allow me to stop thinking about it.
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>>165571063
>It's a flirtatious /fa/ fuccboi
That's what made me hesitant in the first place. His interactions with Seiji especially about fashion were the best after I got to know him better. Also, while the rest of the guys seem to be on the verge of exploding/holding back after an intense skinship session, he managed to give punishment to Bambi afterwards. Sort of reminds me of what Himuro did.
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>>165576875
For me that'd mean every game I've played up to now isn't a very good game.
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>>165577069
If you have a huge backlog of /blog/ shit I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>165575309
If I like the game in general and/or the mc and side-characters I'll usually go for 100% even if some guys don't interest me. If at some point I realize I'm just not enjoying myself I'll drop it and not look back.
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>>165576875
I get burned out on games I like too, even after doing multiple routes in a row. It's like being in bed with the girl of your dreams but ejaculating prematurely.
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If it's a plotge and I like it then I have no problem completing it.
If it's not a plotge or I'm not enjoying it then might as well drop it.
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Sakurai sword when?
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>>165575309
If I really like one guy's route it can happen that I'll lose the motivation for a while to play other guys' routes.
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Otome with a gyaru protagonist
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Isn't this map just great?
>equip heavy troops, they get destroyed in one run
>Not enough scouting, get two disavantage formations in a row
Or
>equip musketeers, still fails scouting
>doesn't give defense, get into red in one failed scout
>they don't kill the yaris.

Any tips are welcome.
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>>165586985
I think it was
>3 shotas (more will reduce your rate of going to the boss quite a lot)
>full sparkled
>rest of party high defense/HP swords
>turn back if one sword is half damaged in the first three nodes
>turn back if you don't go the upper path (the path to the left is longer and harder)

There are some Japanese sites with more tips, google around a bit if you need them.
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>>165586985
I just do the easy long route because I don't feel like wasting resources.
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>>165586985
My sweet Gokotai. Please protect him.
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uo
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>>165588991
Thanks, but isn't that for 7-3? 7-4 doesn't have branches. And I can't read japanese, yet.

>>165591371
Actually, I forgot to add that I'm just trying to level them up. Guess my only choice is going back to 7-1 if I don't want to spend too much resources.

>>165591639
It's going to hurt, but he needs to get stronger, anon.
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>>165530764
Those fucking thighs and those pecs. Account please?
>>165595158
He needs someone to be his sword until he can become sword strong himself, for it is true that he must endure this. Godspeed.
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How did Touken Ranbu completely get away with its plagiarism scandal?
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>>165596408
Same way YoI got away with it.
Hint: Most people don't care that much.
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>>165596408
The same way Idolish 7 did
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>>165596408
I don't remember too well. In the end they just changed stuff and moved on.
Kumita got the worst of it, deleted her twitter, and hasn't done anything as a fan for the game ever since. Shit sucks, she was my favorite artist.
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>>165596408
I'm lucky that I never cared for the swords involved and can just avoid the most obvious ones with no effect on my enjoyment.

And it's not like the company knew they were being handed plagiarized stuff and didn't ignore the problem when people found it.
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>>165598152
>the swords involved
Wasn't it just Kashuu? And even he was just loosely based on a photo, to the extent that you can't even call it tracing anymore.
Though it's been a while so I'm not too sure on it.
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>>165598557
They looked incredibly similar to the point that it's a blatant rip off. Just doesn't sit well with me that a professional decided to do that to some lesser known person.

There was something about Yasusada as well but whatever it was didn't bug me as much.
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>>165598557
kashuu's design is eerily similar to someone's oc
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>>165598557
For Kashuu it wasn't just the photos. Supposedly Kumita copied parts of his design from another artist's character. It was an artist she knew or something, I think.
They still shit on her for it feels bad.

>>165599098
If I remember correctly they officially claimed that they had permission to use those photos. But then Kumita said some things that contradicted that or something. Yasusada's was about those pictures too.
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>>165599454
>it feels bad
I dunno, unless she got permission to use aspects of that person's design, then it's a pretty shitty thing to do to a fellow illustrator and she should know better. I know most people don't care about illustrators getting screwed over though since they treat them as disposable and underestimate how much work goes into drawing.
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>>165596408
I didn't even know that there was something like this. When did this happen and what exactly was it about? I'm barely three months into the game, so I guess it happened before that.
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To this day there are still nips that shit on Kazuaki. It seems like those who are okay with it stay and those who aren't leave and move on, but they never truly let that shit go.
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>>165600170
It's because professional illustrators should know better when looking for reference photos, and plagiarizing other illustrators especially isn't something easily forgiven from other people who draw.

I don't see the issue with taking the topic seriously.
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>>165600120
A lot of the little things + some chara art were traced.
Here's the page nips put together with comparisons
https://sites.google.com/site/sakurabento46/
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>>165600003
Personally I don't care about tracing or anything like that so I'm just upset it drove her out of the franchise.
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>>165600787
More room for people with talent who don't trace and copy lesser known artist's designs thinking no one will notice.
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>>165600120
Happened over a year ago. Some nips made a big drama out of it (see>>165600726), and then the management made some official statement, replaced all traced art (ingame assets) and wrote a long apology that explained how it happened and how they handled it.
To summarize it, they got the assets from other companies, and didn't check those if they were traced. Turns out all the traced assets were those that came from Nitro+.
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>>165601096
But it's not like they dumped her. She designed Houchou recently and still does art for the game, all her swords got new 2 year anniversary illustrations. She just doesn't get involved with the game outside or work.
It's not like it was a 1:1 copy anyway. You could argue the same thing with other artists.
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>>165600120
It was just stuff like items, but they changed them. Also Kashuu and Yasusada. So besides those two issue is taken care of.
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>>165607519
>no Subaru
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>>165609389
I like Subaru and Kyoya about the same, just sad he's not in this fanart then I'd be perfect for me.
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>>165609553
How are you and other Anons liking the PMs? I'm trying to troll/blow off Kaito just to get a rise out of that tsun, but it's not working.
Subaru was heaven. I sweating over every choice because I didn't want to be too forward and scare him off.
>>165621180
Damn cute.
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The Amnesia anime might have sucked ass, but the OP and ED are top tier.
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>毎月100万人以上の方が継続プレイ中とのこと。
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>>165644045
PCs are really not popular in japan
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>>165596774
What happened with Idolish 7?
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>>165647650
I wouldn't say that's linked to pc being not popular, seeing as they have still pretty good numbers and there're so many other browser games as well. In this case it's just that the app is more convenient, so if you have the choice, app would be the way to go (literally).
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>>165652632
Also, that's registered pc users vs app downloads. How many of the app downloads are pc users who just got both is not visible.
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>>165651456
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-09-12/bandai-namco-denies-idolish-7-plagiarism-allegations/.106283
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>x days later
>>165506676
I'd like to try giving it another go, but not until I get better at drawing. Half because the majority of the appeal of Queen's Blade was the lewd characters getting into lewd situations and half because writequests are unpopular on tgchan. However I'm not in a position financially where I have a bunch of time to dedicate to drawing, so I've been attempting to minmax my writing with the time I do have. (Being completely honest, the last time I drew consistently was 2014.) I'd like to collaborate with other creators on character design in the spirit of the original Queen's Blade, but I'm an internet hermit who doesn't have a bunch of artist friends and a large portion of tgchan creators are furries, so I have no idea what'd happen if I asked them for designs or if they'd want to create non-furry or non-monsterboy designs. I already have two monsterboys somewhat worked out—an original harpy and a werewolf character a tgchan guy drew for me whose design I'm only making costume changes to—making any more would be pushing it for me.

I'm working on other stuff in the meantime. King's Blade isn't too terribly high on the priorities list, but we'll get there sooner or later.
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Jesus, I can't believe I actually got him. With enough hard work and DMM points you can clear such events even if you don't have any kiwames. Oodenta is also here, so I'm glad I have participated in this event.
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>>165653274
Congrats then!
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>>165653458
Thank you! I have a question though: I recently cleared 6-3 and soon I'll clear 6-4, and that means I will finally be able to kiwame my boys. But at what lvl I should be upgrading them? Is lvl 99 is the best lvl to upgrade, or, let's say, 85-90 is enough?
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>>165654075
As soon as possible. Low level kiwame is still stronger than Lv99 normal shotas.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR5J_-lXElw
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>>165649402
>>165659202
Of shit, animated Teal? Well that's unexpected. How Have Bpro and Marginal been? Not that those guarantee anything, but I wonder if they won't more stick to band antics rather than delve into the drama back story.
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>>165649402
>>165659202
Oh boy, /a/ is gonna love this.

>Do girls really like guys like these???
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>>165654456
I didn't know this "soon" will be today. Alright, time to kiwame all of them (well not of them, I only have 5 full sets of those items that upgrades them).
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>>165653274
Just got both Oodenta and him too, didn't use any points though.
It was horrible but at least I got a bunch of new level 99s and increased my saniwa level. I feel bad for not reaching level 100 after all this time.
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>>165665998
Congrats, the worst part about kiwame is waiting if you don't buy the pidgeon, specially if you need to do it for a bunch of swords.
Next kiwame set when?
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Thrive > MooNs=KiLLER KiNG > Kita Kore

Discuss. I missed the entire live.
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I almost finished SLK and I liked Mio the best because oopapa.
Tsukasa-sensei was my favorite in terms of looks, but I couldn't get past the contradiction that he was supposed to be a responsible teacher but wanted to date the MC after a month....
Was anyone else annoyed by how slowly Takumi speaks?

Who was your favorite boy?
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>>165671772
Thrive = Killer King > Moons > Kita Kore in terms of songs, but Trap is the cutest boy.

>>165673102
Admit it, anon, you like Mio because horse dick.
Kyousuke best boy.
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>>165671772
In terms of songs
Thrive>Kitakore=MooNs>Killer King

Boys
Thrive>MooNs>Kitakore
I never saw much regarding Killer King, are there some drama CDs?
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>>165673856
Kyousuke is so cute. His baka-couple scenes were the least cringey.
And yes, that part did play a role. I would love to make his pegasus fly.
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>>165665998
This event was pretty good for getting kiwame sets, it helped me finally assemble a full team of them.
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>>165516304
Those are some really nice covers.

What would you guys think of Yoshitaka Amano illustrating for a /blog/ game?
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>>165679069
I'd assume the atmosphere would either be surreal or creepy.
I'd like to see Ayami Kojima do stuff.
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Teito Monogatari guy, were you the one who brought it up in /smtg/ years ago? I've been looking for them ever since but I never got around to it. I might just end up buying them.

>>165679069
It would be beautiful but it would have to be some kind absolute epic of a story to be worth it and there aren't many otome fans who'd be willing to sit for that long.
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>>165679069
Amano did do the designs for Toys' Parade, a puzzle game/mild love story between a girl and her dog that turned human

It was surprisingly challenging, but I lost my file switching phones and never bothered to redownload it.
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My tantous are in their 40s and still trash on map 6.
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http://hunex-play.com/portal/002/en/
Official translation is google tier.
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>>165682857
>RACE:Mummy
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>>165682857
Oh wow
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>>165627691
Flirting with my boss right now.
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Touken Ranbu Anthology Chapter 4
https://mega.nz/#!HZdk2QpY!fRyl2mz3FWQhkSRrpF65tPYI0wTcgxw5C2Ew3n8nYLY
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>Buy series at a discount
>Or buy it at full price and get store tokutens

The eternal struggle
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>>165685959
Thanks as always!
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>>165685959
Thanks doc
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tfw you're at the end of a route and all you can think about is how much you want to move on to a new route
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>>165700972
Felt that way during Cinderella's route, which got kind of draggy near the end. I was eager to move on to Gretel's route and so far it's off to a good start.
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No, wait, hold on
What about a /blog/ game with art by Yamamoto Takato?

I'd probably die on the spot right after finishing it, because there'd be nothing else to live for.
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>>165679664
Mentioned it there before, but I've seen someone else bring it up too.

If you buy second hand, look into the publications. They have a different number of volumes so mixing them up could end up weird. The covers help.
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So I'm going into Black Wolves Saga blind. Is there a recommended play order?
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>>165715106
Personally I don't think it matters too much. I just hope you're playing Bloody Nightmare first and not Last Hope.
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>>165711980
Wow. Unrelated, but I'm stunned and happy that you posted that particular work. Ashamed to say I haven't seen or thought about it in years.
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>>165723327
That's some great taste, my friend. I thought long and hard on which one to post, and I guess it's a good thing I chose that one. Now you're back on track.
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Forty five hundreds pts to collect all of Genesis, single Rs.
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>>165710967
Gretel's route had some great comedy. The start felt like a bit of a parody on 女性向け media cliches in general.
I don't know what the Vita route unlocking is like, but make sure to do Kaguya before Shirayuki.
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What is your favorite Tokimemo boy /blog/? pic related, best husbando
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>>165745434
Taira best boy.
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>>165745434
I like Seiji. His embarrassed thoughts in the extra content area was a fun read. I haven't completely filled it because Niina was setting up to be a nice distraction too.
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>>165752238
I wanted Seiji, but ended loving Tamao-senpai. He's my next route, I've reading good think, and I like tsunderes
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Another good glasses Tokimemo boy
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>>165757727
Glasses + green hair is the worst design a boy can have.
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>>165745434
Ruka. I love that little shit. Jin has a special place in my heart too.
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>>165758293
>Long hair + random useless braid is the worst design a boy can have.

Fixed
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>>165758810
I liked Jin too, specially his black hair version, I'm still mad that I lost all those CG
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>>165759913
Random useless braids are great.
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>>165760573
I'm partial to blond but either way he's great. I remember I liked him so much I replayed it and kept saves before all his events.
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>>165758293
I don't fucking care
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>>165759913
>Long hair + random useless braid is the worst design a boy can have.
Like this?
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>>165762505
Anon is a faggot. Green + glasses is pretty darn nice.
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>>165762642
>everybody hates chris.jpg

He does look nice in a suit though.
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>>165759913
>not liking long hair with braids
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>>165763517
He looks super nice in a suit. Also Chris is not that bad, he has his moments
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>>165765076
Now he just needs glasses, then he'll have long green hair with useless braids and glasses and then both anons can be unhappy.
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>unraveling and sweet braiding moments
>useless

Oh you guys.
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>>165765415
Dozo
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>>165766098
I approve of this.
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>>165766098
I didn't like Ukyo but now he has glasses and I¡m turned on, shit
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>>165745434
W A K A

I still play his route every year, and I'm due for this year's right now.

>>165763517
>everybody hates chris.jpg
God, dude, that's so old. I'm so glad someone else was there too.
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IF U WERE KILLED ASHITA, I WOULDNT GO 2 UR
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WE TRUE TOMODACHI
WE RIDE TOGETHER
WE DIE TOGETHER

This was FIVE, approaching SIX years ago.

We were so young and innocent.
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>>165609553
>tfw no Kaito shota
To live is to suffer, but I got Sousei so I guess it's fine
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>>165771745
I miss otome time on /V/
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I hate tantous.
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>>165777605
not their fault the game is poorly designed
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>>165771745
>5 years ago already

Reaching those 30 but I still replay Tokimemo every year.
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>>165775786
Just too much for here, huh?
It would be fun, but I understand that it would be against board rules.
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>>165685307
Could I get Kaito to flip his shit?
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I know plenty of people asks about who here actually speaks Japanese but I'm wondering who doesn't speak it and uses a text hooker plus machine translator with relative success? I don't have time to learn Japanese on my own but I'd like to get back into playing VNs with a better translation method this go round.
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>>165781565
It got canceled.
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>>165781565
It's a garbage method for plotge and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know Japanese and is fooling themselves.
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>>165781565
>I don't have time to learn Japanese on my own
yes you do, you're just lazy
everyone has time to set aside 15~20 minutes a day for something unless they're irresponsible
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If you read things with machine translation, you forfeit all rights to speak critically about what you're reading.
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>>165781565
I will fucking forever mourn this.
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>>165781687
That's surprising. I thought Yandere Heaven stuff was fairly popular, enough to warrant an otome game release and rake in more money.

>>165782028
I figured as much

>>165782213
Don't get me wrong, I have 15-20 minutes to devote to it at least 3 times a week, but it just seems with such little devotion to it I won't be learning much anytime soon.
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>>165781565
I was under the impression that people only did this for cheap nukige.
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>>165783264
Unfortunately not. I've run into quite a number of people reading shit I like with that method, getting shit wrong, and talking shit about it.
A lot of people think it's perfectly acceptable and accurate for some reason, and decide to formulate opinions on what's essentially gibberish.
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>>165783264
Not that Anon, but nope. I think I was reversing a CG or something, but I came across a page where someone "read" a full fledged bl VN with a hooker.
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>>165783213
The yandere hype has been dead for a while now.
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>>165784508
True, but at the time it was announced (2012) Yandere was in full swing. I'm honestly surprised they didn't just finish it, it really seemed like they had already contributed a lot to the project.
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>>165783660
I've run into this a few times
>baww why doesn't this game make sense it's shit, fuck this character he makes no sense he's shit
They never stop to think that perhaps the reason why it doesn't make sense is because the way they're reading it is fucking illegible
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>>165783213
>>165784972
The company has a bigger cash cow to milk at this point.
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>Get 3000 points
>GENESIS cards actually do nothing
What the fuck, SEGA?
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>>165784972
The tweets they left about it makes it sound like even they thought it was awful.
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>>165785915
Oh wow you're right. Just a few more points away from three copies of each card, too.
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>>165788628
I'm going to tell myself that it's a console wars joke.
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new otome nukige when
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>>165790119
Cute, and speaking of, head shaved LIs when?
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>>165777605
I can't wait for wakizashis to get kiwames so that I won't have to use tantous for a while.
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>>165792449
I want to know too. Sometimes I just want lots of porn.
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>>165796327
Is this a trap?
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>>165804293
Yes.
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>>165805936
Because there is a dick or because surprise there's no dick?
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>>165808494
Yes.
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>Omega Vampire finally uploaded on Chinese sites
>Can't access the threads
Fuck.
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>>165809353
Man, this is one we should live play together for a good time. It's got to be hilarious.
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>>165809353
Didn't realize this was out already. Don't plan to play it myself, but it ought to be fun to see what /blog/ thinks.
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http://idolish7.com/topics/info/2017/4582/
>Studio: TROYCA
>Director: Bessho Makoto
>Supervisor: Aoki Ei
>Series comp: Sekine Ayumi
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>>165809353
I want to play it so badly.
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>>165811341
I only hope for pudding cry baby, Okinawa time, and figure shopping.
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>>165808494
Hm.
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>game by a rather small company gets published
>it's even good according to reviews
>no one here even considers buying it
I mean, I'm not interested in BL, but don't you get like 4 games total released in a year? Do you never buy them or what?
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>>165818003
Side-M has 3D stuff?
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>>165818803
>implying if you like BL then you can't like anything else
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>>165819517
Well then, why don't you want to support your almost dead industry?
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>>165819615
Not that anon but you probably shouldn't support a game you're not interested in. They could possibly make more of it.
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>>165819615
Oh, I do buyfag the games I play. But just saying, people can have those 4 BL games plus a bunch of other games of different genres they can potentially choose to buy. If they're not interested then they're not gonna buy.
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>>165822493
Wasn't he (the tiger, not Legetta) like chomping on you every second he could, or am I thinking of something else?
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b ump
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>>165772949
I'm suffering with you, anon. Rolled over 10 times and no shota!Sousei nor shota!Kyoya.
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Orfleurs (PS Vita) – 7/7/7/6 [27/40]
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>>165818803
I'd rather have the industry die that suppor that omega bullshit.
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up
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>>165829038
I agree. Omegaverse is pure cancer and I wish it'd die already.
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>>165829038
>>165831858
Not that it will disappear, but it's a phase. Even bl VN needs to get in during the peak.
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>>165818803
People want to play Omega Meme for the memes, not because they think it's good.
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>>165818803
>>165819615
did you even read the synopsis for the game in question or are you just pretending to be retarded?

do you buy every piece of otome garbage that the industry shits out just because it's otome?
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New CN Enstars exclusive card
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>>165836940
>>165837861
People assume it's bad because muh omega meme, but Amazon reviews actually say it's good and that the omega stuff is only secondary.
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>>165841192
>people who bought it being okay with omegashit think it's good
What do you expect. Dramatical Murder also has good reviews and that's garbage.
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I watched people play it on twitter, and it seems to have some actual comedy but the MC gives me the worst kind of BL MC vibe. Omerta isn't very good either and that's the company's other work.
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>>165842483
>judging a novel by the company and not the staff
The staff is the same ones that works on other Karin games, while Omerta had a bunch of writer not from their company.
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>>165841192
>People assume it's bad because muh omega.

I despise omega shit, so it would have to be a masterpiece for me to enjoy it.
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What levels were your tantou when you finished map 6? I'm on map 6-2 with level 40s.
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>>165844037
That's a good question and my memory is bad, I think they were in their 80s? Permanently running 5-4 to get Jiji left it's mark
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My swords always wipe out at the last two nodes before the boss.
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>>165854069
Rude
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>>165854069
>>165856497
Wow. I'm missing out on this? I can't wait to see this and feed him dangerous valentines chocolate then.
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>>165854069
>>165856497
Hikami is very fun, I'm not that attracted, but I like to hang out with him. Also I like to ask him out to a date just after I beat him in the exams
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>>165857645
You're cruel. But that's some shit and I appreciate it.

We really should find a place to play TMGS2 together.
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>>165860698
but he said nothing. Maybe because the one who love me more this time is Chris?. Actually I'm playing a free route, I haven't played in like 2 years so I wanted to see who I like know, so I'm being a slut with almost everyone and answer whatever I want in the first test. And it's seem that I'm the Chris type :/
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>>165862738
>:/
Lurk more.
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>>165862738
what
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>>165854069
>>165856497
>>165860698
I miss the ugly TMGS clothes. Rip fuzzy jackets and grandpa sweaters.
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>>165864661
The SEXY line of clothes was the closest thing to looking like a crack whore in otome games.
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>>165864661
>>165865430
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>>165865993
Not enough belts.
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>>165844037
Somewhere around 50? But I only had 1 or 2 on the team because I don't like them and I wasn't there to grind. Everyone else was in the 60s or 70s.
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>>165867682
>only had 1 or 2 on the team
How'd you get through? Others don't really do damage even when they're high level.
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>>165868456
Mostly just pure luck, sakurafubuki, and the wakis KOing everything in sight, now that I think of it. Ended up with a rank C at the boss because Aizen got KOed.
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Imagine being so fucking shitty that you're trash on a fucking map specifically made for you.
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>>165824546
yep
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>>165785915
They serve the same purpose as the trainer/coach cards. I wish they'd at least have gotten a New Cast introduction.
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https://twitter.com/otomebunny/status/821361133185400834
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>>165878206
Why are they shocked by omnipandering?
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>>165878206
I thought that was kind of obvious.
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>>165878373
They're acting like it's something new and I have to wonder if they've ever consumed anything else ever.
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>>165878206
some of the shit they rt smells of irrational tumblrina. i hope you're not following them.
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>>165878206
That's been obvious from the beginning, but for a company rep to admit that flat out is hilarious.
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>>165881582
i'm just wondering how they could be so blunt about this, then i remember aren't he originally a chinese company?
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>>165882579
Why couldn't they be? Japan does it all the time.
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>>165881582
>>165882579
pretty sure this isn't uncommon.
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>>165879507
They're retarded in general.
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>>165883005
>このキャラクターは夢向き、このキャラクターはBL向きといった形に、キャラクターごと違った属性を持っているようです。
That level of bluntness is definitely uncommon. If you look up reactions to the article you'll see the fans are surprised by it too.
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>>165878206
I'm amazed they're saying it outright but anyone with half a brain has been able to figure that out since the start. It's not just Mao, Trickstar as a whole definitely has that intention whereas half of Knights fall under BL pandering with Izumi. They're smart, covering all bases and purposefully targeting different audiences with different characters.

The english fandom seems to be mad about Mao being specified to be love interest type because they're delusional and somehow convinced themselves that Mao is gay due to band ensembles events. Somehow they can't compute that they can keep shipping their Maoritsu without getting angry and demanding that Mao is gay, look at all this canon 'evidence'. Makoto being obviously straight never stopped anyone from shipping Izumako although considering these types would consider that ship 'promblematic' that's probably not a fact that's on their radar.
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>>165884828
I don't play that game but I've heard a lot of really cancerous shit about the English side in general.
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>>165885870
It's like the underbelly of tumblr decided to get twitters and start playing an idol game.
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>>165885870
they're all a bunch of shitty hypocritical sjws. worst than the fujos they bitch about.
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Starting Ensemble Stars soon. Wanted to confirm, is the default name voiced?
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>>165888765
Does any mobage do that?
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>>165888765
No. The majority of the game isn't voiced to begin with.
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>>165889085
I didn't think so, but my autism insisted.
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Tantous are mid-50s now and still can't beat 6-2.
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>>165894363
You can always use something else. I remember clearing world 6 with uchigatana and wakizashi, and one tantou in its 60s.
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>>165878206
>tweets are protected

I got my popcorn. What did I miss?
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>>165898609
the tweet got out of control and typical English enstars drama ensued.
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PV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5FvJSo_YSw
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>>165899184
>Spring

That was quick. Bets on Saiga for MC?
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>>165899184
I've had KBO on hold a while now after being distracted by other games. Maybe I'll aim to finish it before the premiere.
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>>165894681
Then I constantly detour.
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>>165831858
Hear, hear
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What a shame. I'd be into this if it wasn't shota only.
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>>165911549
This is so weird.
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>>165894363
How so? I cleared 6-4 with mid-50's tantous and 2 wakis, and 6-2 with even less lvl tantous and 1 uchi. Right now while I wait for my Aizen kiwame I boost next potential tantous for kiwame in 6-2 while farming Akashi, and they are already lvl 71. You should really abuse this campaign while you can, it's perfect chance to boost your tatnous.
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>>165924014
Someone enters red at the last node before the boss every time.
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>>165924124
I dunno, try to craft more elite troops, give your waki/uchi 2 sheldmen and pray you won't roll too many yaris while clearing the map. Your first and foremost goal is to survive until boss node.
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>>165924368
Why suggest shieldmen when the damage yaris do is fixed?

>>165924124
Try equiping ranged troops on your wakis/uchis and hope they kill the yari before the battle starts.
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>>165924854
Because I hate ranged strikes killing my troops, it's not against yaris. Also I meant heavy infantry, not elite troops. And I don't believe non-kiwame low lvl swords can kill yaris with ranged strikes, let alone scratch them, but I will also try equiping ranged troops and see how it will go.
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RNG-based "difficulty" is the worst.
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>>165903390
I want to play it, but my backlog is too long.
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>>165919682
>>165911549
These collabs SEGA is coming up with are all weird except Aichuu.
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Finally beat 6-2.
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Is it true oodachi are okay in 6-4?
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>>165956010
Yes. But they should be around 80+ lvl to be somewhat useful. Also don't forget to equip horses for last boss.
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>>165915564
shota's great, but to baqd it's BL only
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>>165949565
I'm jealous... But congrats! Haven't been able to get him yet, so I want to hunt for him too, but I want to get Monoyoshi first. Not that he shows any signs of appearing either....
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Speaking of Touken Ranbu, are people playing broken telephone or is the new sword really going to be a smithing event?
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>Guy is cute, gentlemanly, and is interested in you right from the start
>He's so good that you begin to suspect that there's a catch and a reveal where he ends up being trash will happen any moment now
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>>165967483
At first yeah.
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>>165968905
I'm always instinctively wary of friendly guys especially if they are blond.
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>>165971739
These look frozen dinner quality.
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>>165968905
>turns out he's actually best boy after all, not strings attached
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>>165972431
>Subaru.spghti

I never thought I would find such a pure love in mobage.
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up
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>>165991514
I don't even love Cecil, but this fig.
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>>165991514
Looks nice.
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>>165991514
He's not my fave boy, but he sure looks nice. I want him.
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>>166002314
Is the romance in good balance with the comedy?
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>>166006769
Only done one route so far, but the romance was really rushed at the end.
It is pretty funny though, and that's what I was looking for after playing 2 slightly annoying/depressing plot games.
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>>165991514
looks so good
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>【2/25発売】「Collar×Malice Art Works(カラー×マリス アートワークス)」発売決定! カバーは花邑まい氏の描き下ろしです!

What difference would there be between this and the visual fanbook I bought a couple months ago?
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>>166014876
Generally artbooks focus on comprehensively compiling the illustrations. Fanbooks would have a selection of illustrations + stuff like character profiles, short stories etc.

That said, it varies a lot depending on company and publisher. There are artbooks with fanbook content as well as fanbooks that are pretty much artbooks. The title doesn't guarantee anything.

Otomate isn't the most consistent with content for their books, so if you're considering getting it I'd wait for reviews.
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>>165653013
The mere fact that you're around and thinking about it is awesome. It's been a long ass time, but there were draw Anons who popped up once before. Just put out the word when you're ready and go from there. It was like we only got one day into the quest but it was so much fun. We'll work out a place for the adventure once again.
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>preordered the limited edition of the BWS port

Help
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>>166022048
I still haven't decided whether to preorder or not. I don't intend to replay BWS soon and the price might eventually drop if I wait, but buying now would support it more.
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^^
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age
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My copy of the KgK FD finally arrived. Who is blog's favourite boy?
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>>166043036
Mine is Tsuzuramaru.
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>>166043036
Christian or Trap. They're all good boys, though. It's so hard to choose.
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I want another Underground Treasure event
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>>166067541
The only events I'm any good at.
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>>166073421
Ha ha, good fucking lord.
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VR app by Square Enix http://www.kimikiri.jp/
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>>166078770
Predictions, from left to right
>flashy artsy, "the Shiki"
>Prefect
>Haughty noble
>Wanko
>childhood friend
>Genki
>Onii/childhood friend
>Yamato damashii
>tough guy with heart of gold
>sports baka
>edgy asshole / punished high schooler (depends on if he's holding out his hand or grasping it in a fist)
>koakuma, possibly chuuni

Here's to hoping that I'm actually wrong on these.
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help

I'm in a position to hypothetically be penning stuff for a character-route based otome game anywhere from within a few months to this fall.

Problem: I have a minimal amount of experience with the otome genre in particular.

What are some outstanding, high quality titles you gentle people recommend I binge on/get started on to familiarize myself with established tropes and character archetypes? And how far from a given "formula" can a story/character personality go before you're turned off?
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>>166080810
no porn, but it looks like they're adding a route.
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>>166083126
Assuming you'll be writing in English for a western audience we're probably not the best place to ask for opinions. Most of us are more familiar with Japanese games and fan trends than the English side.

Norn9 and Amnesia are both pretty bad but they have very typical examples of archetypes. Norn9 has a large amount of guys and splits into routes early on, so it might be worth checking out for those points at least. As for something good there's Code Realize, but it has a long common route and not much romance, so maybe not what you're looking for.

There's also Mystic Messenger. Don't know much about it but it's been hugely popular with western fans.
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>>166083126
It better be sci-fi or I don't give a shit.
Anyway, if the story is good on its own its probably best if you don't use boring predictable stereotypes.
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What is the best type of monsterboy and why?
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I want my time back.
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>>166105701
What was wrong with it?
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>>166105807
They made us wait almost 3 hours for enstars and just showed a fucking 3D model of Subaru. Nothing new besides those shitty musicals and some food stuff.
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So apparently the quality of the Aoba figure is shit.
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>>166087195
>>166091318

At the risk of getting memed on, are there any representations of ye olde "isekai" genre in otome?
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>>166109294
The Heart no Kuni no Alice series and Harutoki would be the biggest ones. Alice in Wonderland isekai is a big thing in otoge.

If you're thinking of RPG fantasy isekai in particular then there's not much. Only Dot Kareshi and Period Cube come to mind.
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>>166109768
>If you're thinking of RPG fantasy isekai in particular then there's not much. Only Dot Kareshi and Period Cube come to mind.
Shouldn't Real Rode counts as one?
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>>166109768

All these games that are Vita only, jeez. I don't want to have to buy one, but if I want to get into/do my research on this genre it seems to be required.

>Alice in Wonderland isekai

That's an oddly specific "kind", but I guess what with Alice in Wonderland being pretty much the OG isekai in popular literature it makes sense.

My sole real experience in otome lies with my work with another flavor of "original" isekai, in Ozmafia, so I'm looking to try and write something stepping away from established tropes/settings. Pic related, it's how out of my depth I feel.

I spent some time reading through synopses on what people have mentioned.

Period Cube leaves a nasty taste in my mouth; I hate the "dumb/unskilled but has superpowers anyway" archetype.

Dot Kareshi seems pretty neat, with its subversion of expectations (you fall in with NPCs and villains rather than "protagonist" type characters). I'm not as well-versed in the tropes of the 8-bit RPG era as I am of the later generations, but I can appreciate a lot of what's being mentioned.

Real Rode seems to play the "fall into an RPG" thing almost completely straight, gets bonus points for having a real JRPG running underneath the hood, but the wackiness of the character designs is a bit offputting just reading through summaries. I'm sure the wackiness feels more "natural" and entertaining and less forced when actually playing through the game.

It seems to me that there aren't that many... well, unique and individual MCs? (Lord, don't get me started on Fuka from Ozmafia.) Maybe that's just a huge underlying problem with the otome (or hell, the whole VN, or even the whole anime) genre in general, casting bland/boring "everyman/woman" into the MC role for the audience to project onto. I'll ask: are there any otomes with very strong and motivated MCs? (Or are the synopses I'm reading through just glossing over that?)
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>>166112574
>are there any otomes with very strong and motivated MCs?
Sanzen Sekai Yuugi

Otome does kinda struggle with its protagonists, I suppose its mostly because of the self-projection thing. Case in point, BL tends to have it better in the MC department more often, and the audience prefers shipping them with the other guys instead of self-inserting.
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>>166112574
So basically you want English + PC + isekai + good MC. Heart no Kuni no Alice is all I can imagine would fit that. Last I heard there was a translation project for it in the works with a partial patch already out. Anniversary no Kuni no Alice is an updated release of the same game, so if that's the version the patch is for make sure you download the right game.
Princess Nightmare isn't isekai but it's worth checking out too if you're limited to PC. Note I can't guarantee the translation quality for either of those.

MCs are a controversial subject but there are enough good ones out there that it shouldn't be hard to find ones you like. I've never had as much of a problem with them as most people seem to.
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>>166114361

Thanks for humoring me. The genre's understandably broad but seemingly worse documented/discussed than other VNs/weebstuff.

On the flipside... are there any "bad" otome that I should read to know "how not to write an otome"?
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>>166114684
How would writing a bad otome story be any different than a bad story of any other genre?

You're much better off going to see what EOPs and EVN readers want. Tastes are different to the point that it may surprise you and nobody who knows Japanese is going to be reading it anyway.

Unless your goal is to simply rip off a Japanese title.
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>>166114684
Thinking there's a right or wrong way to write them is likely the source of a lot of issues the genre has to begin with. I agree with >>166114946, looking into what the English only side of fans likes is the best way to go.
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There's also the issue that what /blog/ likes is probably quite different than what a large chunk of the rest of the western otome/bl scene likes.
if you're penning for english-only people, unfortunately most of your audience is tumblr and I assume you know what they're like.
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>>166114946

Good point. I guess what I might be more interested in is "what are people tired of/don't want to see reiterated for the nth time".

... yeah, I know that answer is going to vary a lot.

My goal? To, underneath the restrictions I'm likely to face going in as far as routing/tech/art budgeting, write a memorable and fresh story with likeable characters, while somehow balancing that with core market expectations to be able to safely pitch the idea mostly intact and see success for future gateways to open up.

I'm optimistic enough and I daresay skilled enough that I don't see a need to directly rip off a title, not if I don't have to. If I'm asked to try and rip off a title directly, I have enough creative integrity to walk away from the job if it comes to that - I have enough savings and support that I can afford to and not go hungry.

The thing is the company offering has previously always done otome translated out of other languages (a mix of Korean and Japanese works, apparently?). And now they're looking into cutting out the painful middleman and just getting writers in English to begin with, to save on that step and deliver a higher-quality product to what is quickly becoming their new main audience. I suspect that they'll market the product much the same, though (aka to people expecting certain conventions) which is why I'm kind of interested in "core audience expectations".

Where else can I poke my nose to try and look into EOP expectations, then. Tumblr is a bit of mess and it's unlikely I'll get any amount of meaningful response... is that really the best shot I've got?
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>>166115707
Unfortunately tumblr is where most of your demographic is, but you can also throw all creative freedom out the window the moment you write for them.
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>>166115707
You could try /evn/ when it comes back from dying.
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>>166115508

Well, like in other genres, there are things to learn from particular works of "how not to do this thing". For example, Mass Effect's ending is a great example of how not homogenize player agency and choice. Paolini's Eragon series is a example of what happens when you don't do sufficient preplanning (probably precisely because you're literally 13 or 15 or whatever his age was). There's a huge number of examples in cinematography of "how not to make cuts" and "how not to do action scenes".

>>166115675

/blog/ was the only place I could think of where I could hope to get a timely answer from a number of individuals greater than 1. Tumblr is hilariously fragmented and enclaved, so... well. I figured the effort:results ratio wouldn't be worth it, at all.

>>166116071

>/evn/

F
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>>166116115
Other than tumblr all I can suggest is looking at individual reviewers(who are probably mostly on tumblr)or creators, or general VN development forums.
Anyway this is getting farther and farther away from stuff we'd know about, so good luck.
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>>166114684
Let me warn you about Heart no Kuni no Alice though; it has the most obnoxious system where, unless you note down every single turn and encounter, you'll miss out half of the events. It's highly recommended to use a walkthrough when playing HnKnA.
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>>166112574
>>166115707
Best girl, not so best game (also Japanese only).

>"what are people tired of/don't want to see reiterated for the nth time".
High school settings, generic Tolkien/D&D fantasy, Alice in Wonderland and fairytale themes, bargain bin urban fantasy, and IDOLSSSSSSSSS and other types of bands too unless you're going to pull some Spider Kiss shit in which case I would 100% read that. People severely underestimate the power of a good real world setting. I can't think of anything like a cop drama or a noir styled otome. Sci-fi is underutilized, but tends to come across as 'fantasy with a different coat of paint.'
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>>166122234
Outside /blog/ it seems more like people are triggered by anything but the most vanilla, boring high school or fairytale SOL setting.
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>liveblogging in English in a Japanese twitter tag
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>>166107693
the nipples aren't even colored.
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>>166107693
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>>166135217
His dick is horrible.
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>>166135217
So fucking glad I didn't preorder. The prototype had a gorgeous cock lust expression while the final looks like a crack retard sold into prostitution. Thanks for nothing, Native.
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>>166122234
>and other types of bands

I, for one, would kill for a game that lets me date cute metalheads.
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>>166138787
The dick is the only part of the figure that turned out good.
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>>166116115
Something that pops to mind as something you should watch out for is the story flow.
I've seen people complain about how the plot of a storyline was overly ambitious making the romance really shallow with unreasonable development. So just make sure everything is balanced appropriately.
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>>166138787
link? now I'm curious.
It's always a shame when they mess up so hard when they're charging so much.
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>>166144119
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>>166145848
I didn't think they made figures that graphic.
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>>166140925
I may be able to make an exception for this as long as the music is good and there's at least one headbanging CG.
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Getting into mobage and now I wish my phone had more internal memory. 30GB SD card doesn't do much good when every game insists on being stored on the device itself instead. Is there no way around this while staying legit?
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>>166146129
That's the first male figure made that's been so graphic, that's why it's been discussed so much. Only things that have come close to it are shota figures with tiny acorn dicks.

Girls get porny figures all the time though. There's a figure of a pregnant lady getting fucked by an ogre that has like 6 variations.
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>>166150909
Kit? I've never seen a mass produced shota fig.
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>>166146169
>as long as the music is good

Considering how tongue in cheek a lot of bands are, a company with a good budget could probably get some big names on board.
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>>166141087
I wouldn't call a single ball and caterpillar for pubes "good".
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>>166144119
What I don't get is how they messed up so hard when usually native's figures are good quality.
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>>166164324
>trusting companies not to cheap out and not care when their customers are women
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>>166159278
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>>166164743
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>People crying over figures not being anatomically correct
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>>166174724
They're upset about it looking like garbage compared to what the company usually puts out.

Of course there's always shit eaters like you who will defend it though.
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>>166175248
And on top of that, it's a 17,593 yen pricetag too. For that amount of money no one would want to get something that's half-assed.
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>>166174724
a lot sacrifice accuracy for sex appeal, but this isn't a case of that. if you can't figure out what's wrong here then I don't know what to say.
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