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/xivg/ - Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward General

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PVP in 2017 Edition

>Heavensturn (December 31st - January 14th)
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2017/Heavensturn/

>Patch 3.45 Notes
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/c55a99e864094c0c7dfcbde0fa35bd9fda60dfcb

>Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXXII and XXXIII
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/3ee28e9c3569e2c7be7212675e20a99641370d8d

>Stormblood Expansion Teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAobb8_SzHY [Embed]

>Red Mage Teaser:
https://streamable.com/25l4x

>Fanfest interview with Yoshi:
http://gamerescape.com/2016/12/26/famitsu-sits-down-with-naoki-yoshida-at-jp-fan-festival-2016/

>3.5 update info from Famitsu
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201701/05124262.html

>3.5 Gung Ho for GARO Collaboration
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/001753.html

>Resources, Guides, Free Companies and Linkshells
http://pastebin.com/raw/YcEBGQWu

Previously on /xivg/:
>>165473767
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bad armor
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>>165503832
yeah honestly the actual wolf armor is the ugliest offering of the event, ironically enough
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>>165503832
*dramatically ensconced in golden armour* EXCYOOOOOTHE ME
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>>165503832
It's got a similar issue to the Yokai event stuff, but in the opposite direction. It's overdetailed compared to everything else instead of seeming way too simple and cartoony.
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>>165503771
who do you think took that screenshot?
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yoooooooooo. is dat some doomgaze
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Is it true this game is stupid easy?
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>>165504371
it's easy to get to max

it's not devoid of challenge if you go looking for it though
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xth for beepy trying to stir up drakn drama leave rune and embrace alone!
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Quick, post your 10 most hated xivg users of all time
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>>165504335
i want him to suck my dick
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>>165504681
beepy
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why wasn't Noroi on the list of 10 most hated xivg users/

i thought everyone universally HATED that fucker don't tell me theres people here that actually LIKE him?
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>>165504585
gamemaster post
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>>165504897
He's dumb, but not actually hateable.

his shouts in idyllshire are funny sometimes
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>>165504371
its pretty faceroll until you get to the current raid tier/primals. then you need semi 8 competent people. most fights are very scripted with a little rng so difficulty is just being proactive instead of reactive
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>>165504897
that disgusting thing isn't human so there's no need to include it
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>>165504056
Judging by the angle and the zoom It was someone a lot closer to them than where Lizzy has been sitting.

Nice try tho
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>>165505083
>joking about a mass shooting as it's happening

Jesus, what a piece of work.
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>>165505283
It was Lei obviously, Both Seto and Guffy would have have Flat on their friends list.
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>>165505283
>cropped like every one of his screenshots
>same filename
lizzy you have to stop. he didnt pick you
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>>165505139
he has a girlfriend, there must be something redeemable in that brain of stupid
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>>165505349
>as it's happening
it's so common now it barely makes the news
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Top 10 LEAST hated xivg characters???
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i wana a catboy bf
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cats who happen to be boys
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>>165505485
It's still in poor taste and speaks volumes on his capacity to feel compassion and sympathy for other people.
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i require a pump

post midlanders
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>>165505501
No one cares about that, it causes more drama to get people post about who they hate
Who are the top 5 xivg players you hate, anon?
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elk
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>>165505408
>>165505408

And I didn't pick you either, now stop trying to force drama because of it.
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Evening, xivg. What are you up to in-game tonight?
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>>165505587
Trump was elected.

We're not a country about compassion and sympathy anymore.
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>>165505654
Kirito Tia is a faggot
hope he gets cucked by Kirito Tsunderie
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>flat and greencat are on the bench together now

The absolute madman doesnt stop.
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>>165505587
I think you're on the wrong site, friend. Reddit is that way.

>>165505770
You would probably fit in there with your statement too
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>>165505770
eat shit lmao
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>>165505824
Last I checked, /r/TheDonald was a thing.

/pol/ is basically full Reddit these days.
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>>165505501
anyone that:
a: never had public relationship drama
b: doesn't erp or at least is very private
c: plays the game
d: doesn't orbit anyone
e: is approachable but not fake nice

it's a short list I'm not sure there is even 10.
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>>165503705
>pvp edition
>didn't help my pvp question last hour
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>>165505725
Just did Vath dailies to get them up to Bloodsworn before the patch, now just waiting for raid to start.
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>>165506001
That's because PvP in this game is a joke.
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>>165505932
>tfw this is me and everyone i play the game with

and it just so happens that i dont play with 4chan
what a strange coincidence!
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>>165505932
hey it me
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>>165505712
>change name colors to match
nice cover up
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>>165505587
it's not in poor taste. the best way to deal with tragedy is comedy. when japan had their dude kidnapped and behead by isis they spammed isis-chan memes for 2 weeks
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>>165505349
>mass shooting
>5
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>>165506162
You know you can always just talk with me if you think I hurt you that much.
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>>165505932
You realise failing this criteria is the criteria to be an ebin
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>>165503705
>Get Dragoon to level 50
>Getting a hang of the total rotation while also fitting in off cooldown abilities gets kind of hectic with a controller, but I get comfortable with it after a few dungeon runs
>Heavensward apparently adds five more fucking skills
STOP
T
O
P
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>>165505083
why is everything in jap
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>>165506282
>The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition, and defines a "public mass shooting" as one in which four or more people selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition of the term "mass murder".
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Post character, and subsequently, post your character!
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>>165506492
Just wait until Stormblood adds even more complications!
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>>165506060
You sound like one of Adders or Maelstrom last game that got stomped into oblivion.

>>165503832
I will wear it and I will love it and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
I just got done capping Wolf Marks for it as well.
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>>165506492
are you retarded

of course a job is going to be different in an expansion? why would you want everything to stay the same forever?
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>>165506613
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>tfw Lizzy was never pure
just kill me famalam
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>>165506724
slut lethe
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>>165506695
Yeah but bloating up the skill list is making it a pain to play, I don't know how things work on PC, but I only have 16 skills per hotbar, so I constantly have to switch between hotbars to do my full rotation instead of just "Move mouse, click"
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>>165506613
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>>165506594
this is a japanese videogame in the Japanese Role Playing Game (Japan JRPG Genre) made by the japanese in the japanese language in the country of Japan developed primarily for Japanese audiences
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>>165506861
slut lethe is best lethe

be nice
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>>165506861
kinda redundant
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>>165506890
Look into the W crossbar. You can doubletap shoulder buttons to get access to a second set of hotbars rather than trying to switch between them.
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>>165506597
I live in brazil not usa idiot that is not a mass shooting
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>>165506890
you aren't the only DRG in the universe using a controller

if they could do it, you can too. and they did it just fine BEFORE W-Cross Hotbar
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>>165506724
suncats are trash
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>>165506613
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>>165506594
>why is a japanese videogame in jap

Is this a real post?
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If I wanted to do some crafting with a levekit, should I do it now or just wait till the post update buff?
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>>165507336
>>165506953
yeah but thats kind of weird
playign this game in japanese. why?
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>>165506994
>>165507053
>W cross bar
What the fuck? Why didn't the game tell me this exists? The second it detected I was using a controller is should have had a pop up telling me to turn that shit on because it would be retarded not to.
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>>165506890
DRG is arguably the hardest melee dps in the game at 60, the 50 rotation is baby shit.
Please enjoy.
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lala thighs
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you don't even need it, and maybe if you read patch notes you'd know about it
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>>165507751
>imblying
Nin is the current hardest you wad. Pressing 123X, 456X isn't hard.
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>>165507693
kys
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>>165507751
drg might be "hard" for a melee but brd is the only job that takes real skill
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>>165507751
Is monk any less of a clusterfuck? I love DRG but I don't love having 30 buttons to press in ten seconds.
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/linkshell/25614222880753202

what happened
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>>165507693
stop replying to actual autistic people it's just cruel
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>>165507709
The W crossbar was implemented relatively recently, so they probably haven't updated any tutorials or tooltips at all.
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>>165507843
NIN is hilariously easy outside of the opener though. You just look at your buffs/debuffs and react accordingly and ninjutsu once every 20s. You also have next to no positionals and a massive margin of error.
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Question for the macro wizards out there.

Say I have two hotbars, which in this example I'll call 1 and 2.

I use some abilities on 1, then I press a button and it switches to hotbar 2, in the same position where 1 was. Then I press a button and it switches back to 1. And on and on.

Is this possible with a macro?
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>>165505820
Flat just wants a boyfriend anon.
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What would you do with this tired cat?
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>>165508250
"/hotbar change #" where # is the hotbar you want to switch to.
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>>165508380
Take her home, let her sleep in peace and give her a stack of hard boiled eggs.
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>>165508386
Thanks for the response. I want the bars to switch into the same position when I press the macro. Will this do that? I hope I'm explaining this correctly.

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |

Imagine that's hotbar 1. Say 1-5 are abilities, and 6 is the macro you just posted. If I press the macro, here's how I want bar 2 to look.

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |

Same layout, but with 1-5 being different abilities that I've already set up beforehand, and 6 being the macro that switches the bar back to 1. I also want both bars to swap to the same position each time I press the macro (in other words, not having 2 above 1, or vice versa).
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>>165507947
I haven't played MNK myself but I hear it's very simple.
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>>165507947
get good shitter
play monk for easy mode
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>>165508759
>very simple.
Oh ho, well I'll have to give it a look.

>>165508850
Getting good is hard though, and it makes me want to fucking toss my controller when I fuck up and press the wrong button combinations in the heat of battle.
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>>165507954
seto and republic?
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>>165506953
>>165507336
the creators of the game are based in japan
you are on an english server
you are posting on an english site
you are not japanese
why do you have the game in the japanese language
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>>165508976
They could be bilingual or learning the language??
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>>165507947
mnk is easy but you actualy have to play like a dick and take damage sometimes/do positionals instead of mechanics if you want to peak. if you always play safe and stack for soak and such, you will just be mediocre
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>>165508976
Anon....
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>>165509229
Why don't you learn THIS

*Unzips childhood with no father figure, leading to ERPing in MMOs*
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>>165508976
This >>165509229

RPGs can be a decent way to help with learning japanese. In fact, the english release of FF1 for PSP had both a standard JP mode and a hiragana only mode, which was great.
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>>165508675
I'm not sure I understand, but try experimenting with it. You can also try this other one if "change" doesn't work.

For example, if you're a black mage, "/hotbar copy BLM 2 BLM 1"

That will copy the hotbar you have for blackmage 2 and paste it over the hotbar you have for blackmage 1.

I don't use these myself so I'm not sure how to go about using them properly. I just know how to do it.
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>>165509385
I'm gonna give em a shot, thanks!
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i wont ask again

post midlanders for pumping purposes!
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>Try the W crossbar
>Tfw I can now see all my skills on cooldown instead of having to constantly switch and check them
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>>165507954
Why do you post your own ls
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>>165509518
i wont tell you again

fuck off!
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>>165509427
Another tip, if you're using controller instead of keyboard, just replace "/hotbar" with "/crosshotbar"
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>>165508976
>playing a game made by japanese in the english language

the fuck?

Even MORESO in ff14, where the story in the english language version is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT From the japanese version
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>Slowly falling into a grown man relationship

Wew lad
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>learning japanese

cringey
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>>165509546
The W crossbar is great, but if you're someone who has played the game with a controller for the past three years, it's hard to actually use it. Still, it is good to have for people starting out or who haven't gotten used to flipping pages for skills.
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>>165509229
>>165509293
>>165509371
>anonymous
>bilingual or learning anything in his life
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Making a new dude, what realm lads?
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>>165509694
*counters u*

maybe next time
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>>165509850
What are his initials?
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>not learning japanese
>not wanting to free yourself from the fansub cartel
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>>165510025
It be a secret sry m8
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>>165510025
Hugh Mungus
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>>165510015
*Teleports behind you and unleashes a perfectly executed DRG opener for a billion damage* heh *Tips visor*
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>>165509912
Can you just use the extra spots in W crossbar to watch your cooldowns while still flipping pages normally?
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post perfectly pliable midlanders prepped for pumping
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>>165509850
guffy...
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>>165510218
Yes, and you can have them displayed without enabling the double tap.
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>>165510274
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>>165510759
*scans head to toe*

*doesnt pump*
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post lewds i gotta nut
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>>165510825
Someone has finally evaded The Pumpinator.
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>>165507947
>Loved playing LNC and DRG.
>Got to all the new skills and whatnot from HW.
>I now have too many hotkeys that im comfortable using without fucking up inputs or having to look at what im pressing.

Im all for a light skill culling in SB. Or really just them pushing skill chains together to condense hotkeys. I would love for them to combine True Vorpal and Full into one button that swaps to the next skill in the combo. Ive never once used Vorpal or Full without the combo and the only way i ever would would be a misclick. Even saving 2-3 buttons would be so helpful.
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I just resubbed and I never got to finish my eso set

How the hell do we get them now that the npc doesn't sell them anymore?
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>>165511073
Hunt tokens in the Forgotten Knight.
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>>165511073
The Forgotten Knight in Foundation, by the bar for Centurio Seals
Those sets were the best sets from tomes this expac, imo
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what the actual fug are the droprates on sephirot? does ex even drop the stupid tree sap?
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>>165510025
L T...
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>>165509293
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>>165510025
TK
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>>165511568
are you that anon from /pol/
stop stalking me in the japan threads
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>>165511568
How has this chart held up to the test of time madaoaoaoa?
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>>165505932
hey its me!! as long as you dont take out the world relationship in the first criteria at least
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>>165511640
I don't go to /pol/, sorry

>>165511703
I made that not too long ago I thought
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>>165509924
anon

You do realize learning japanese and learning about japan is a hot topic on 4chan right now? it's all over /int/ and /pol/ and people everywhere in this generation are learning japanese

you gonna get left behind son
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>>165511256
>>165511316
Thanks anons
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>>165511703
I like the cat with the green hair. But i also feel like that might be the biggest landmine of the group.
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>>165511734
Quick, pick one cat you would add.

Hardmode, one you would remove.
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>>165512359
the one to the right is
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Happy New Years (I am not late at all)
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>>165511703
how many of these dudes fucked eachother?
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>>165511703
wanna kiss kallen
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>tfw getting married in two hours
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Where ARE THE HIGHLANDEERSSS
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why dont people wipe 5 times before a raid to get the echo? literally what the fuck its a free big ass buff
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>>165512672
cute
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>>165512713
TIME IS MONEY FRIEND
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>>165512613
All have been tuched by the diap.
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>>165512713
you need to reach certain parts of the fight first before you get echo buffs, to avoid exploits like that
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>>165512713
have to be engaged in the fight for a certain amount of time anyway, like 3 or 5 minutes or something, I forget

so if you aren't wiping it's better to just try and finish
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>>165511703

I should be glad I am not in that picture, right?
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>>165512702
Come on I just got in bed
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>>165512594
happy new years
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how the fuck do you manage to make a new post and not add the preliminary notes to the OP?

ffs.

also >>>>>>>>>[Embed]

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/1bbb52f23cb2a462dec0230aa523d0406f57ed97

Fucking attention whores.

Now look at my cat and tell me how beautiful she is.
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>>165503832
Don't worry anon. It will be jap exclusive, just like all the Garo content.
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RIP Summoner -- FF3 ~ FF11

Heres hoping FF16 will return us to grace. Atleast Bravely Default knew how to make a summoner.


May you find peace on the farplane away from /glamour/ egis
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>>165513201
at least you dont have heterochromia
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>>165513480
>Atleast Bravely Default knew how to make a summoner.


LUL
U
L
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>>165513530
I know they were rather terrible. Atleast it was a summoner and not a dot class with a lobotomized mobil turret
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theres too many FUCKING cats
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>>165513210
We don't joke about that.
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How do i even get into belmug
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>>165512615
Sorry, that one's mine.
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>>165513813
just a kiss, pls...
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>>165512882
Probably since it's bad to be associated with me in any way shape or form it seems

>>165512774
Quite the opposite actually
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>>165513747
I want to kick that idiot in the tooth
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>>165505567
L0L epic fail post bruhh
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>>165513480
retard alert

enjoy pressing the same command until you learn a new one that you press instead over and over and over

just because rydia was cool doesn't mean summoners were fucking shitty and stupid in old final fantasy games
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>>165514109
Mumu's really cute and nice to be around
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Why random people pet me?
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>>165514164
lol
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>>165514141
weren't*

>>165513480 but for real grow the fuck up with this shit y'all are goddamn pathetic. ffxi's summoner was goddamn stupid btw
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>>165514164
lol
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>>165514250
what he do this time?
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At what point is it safe for me to start queueing duty completion instead of practice on a raid?
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xth for futa finally going out and actually doing something
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sprout Q

You know how there are vendors who sell basic gear for each level across the game? Are there vendors for similar leveled jewelry? I just realised my level 44 DRK is using starting jewelry. I'd rather not trade with the MB juden.
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>>165514290


Pretty shit opinion.

Theres already a class for the ADHD
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>>165513480
Not so fond of Bravely Summoner by itself, by mixing Summoner with Wizard's Spellcraft was incredible in Second
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>>165514559
If you're on Balmung I can make you some.
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>>165514559
Unfortunately I don't think any vendor sells accessories. You can do Cutter's Cry runs for level 38 Aetherial accessories if you don't want to buy any.
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>>165514441
who is futa?
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I fucking hate this game why do I still play
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>>165514559
Threre's one in every major city, the only problem is that they only give it to higher-ish levels.

On top of that there aren't many to craft in the lower levels either.

Usually, you are supposed to get them in dungeons.

You can always go to the market board and see whats the best accessory you can buy and then just google it to see if you can get it any other way. Sometimes quests drop them too, you can get them easily that way, with free EXP.
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>>165503705
so is the garo stuff a limited time event, or just the next tier of pvp armor
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Haven't played for around a month.

I kinda forgot how pretty this game CAN be.
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>>165515160
"Limited" time, but expect it to last at least three months.
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>>165515163
Shame that ugly cat is in the way.
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>>165515016
All the other options are stale, ran by jews, or have the target audience thats still in high school?
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>>165515016
Memories of better times..

trying to recreate...

trying to FEEL again...
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>Static ad in PF on my server
>9 am to 12 pm EST
>Guy is in full prototype gear
One day...
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>>165515163
I was playing around with ReShade and spent more time adjusting settings than I did taking pictures. It's really a pain in the butt and it still doesn't look all that nice.
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>>165505932
Name even 5 of these people. Nightmare mode: from DRAKN or Soft
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Is the PVP in this game Moderately decent
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Why is she so cute? I just want to eat her up!
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>>165515462
dex from soft, what do I win
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>>165515478
The game is pretty unresponsive compared to other MMOs. It tends to make PvP more frustrating than it has to be sometimes, but it's okay.
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>>165505932
>tfw everything describes you besides a
fuck
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>>165515298
but the people in this game treat this game like highschool too

>>165515305
are you okay
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>decide to try healer
>suddenly i'm awash in dysfunctional parties with tanks and DPS arguing/leaving
>If it's not "the tank sucks," it's "dps stop pulling"
WTF is going on? I never saw this shit when i played tank or dps
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>>165515478
yeah but people are going to immediately say it's bad because they probably played for like 5 seconds and were shit at it therefore it's the game's fault
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>>165515486
If you eat my daughter I will take legal action.
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speedybeepy,wbm
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>>165513480
traditional summoners were honestly always boring as fuck, they were just nukers

Imagine a SMN in 4.0 with an expanded Aethertrail mechanic where you build up stacks to actually summon a bigger primal for a single signature attack like Deathflare though, that could be cool.
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>>165515897
Beepy moving at hihg speedy
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>>165515797
It takes a change of place to see the whole picture
Now try being a black mage
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I am currently being held hostage in a RF duty completion party that clearly has no clue what they're doing, almost as if they're dying on purpose and they won't vote abandon the party.
Please send help.
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>>165515897
>>165516042
LINK
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>>165515912
i'd love if they got rid of the stupid bahamut shit entirely in favor of this at 70

and just let people decide what they want to summon in the same vein as egi glamour. that would be fuckin sick.
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>>165516085
Just leave and go do some PvP
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where is shirou...
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>>165515790
im great! having fun in 2014 looking forward to those 3 new dungeons next patch!
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You don't love me.
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>>165516085
I'll help

oh wait you're not on aether
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>>165516085
One day I will come /pet you. I know who you are since we're on the same server. Assuming you're the one who had a run in with that idiot Miyuki.
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>>165516203
>Thinking that if you huff enough paint you time travel
Oh how I made that mistake in my time. Actually it was yesterday. Pass the paint.
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>>165516432
>tfw drank down 2 bottles of cough syrup and thought it was 2006 again just last week
man...
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>>165516575
Must have been weird for you to be in a time before you were born.
I kid, I kid
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wait so we can have datacenter wide linkshells or am i just shit at reading
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>>165516575
>tfw morphine just kicked in and i'm back in nam
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>>165516826
You cannot
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I NEED a lala lady in my life NOW
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*hops into bed and opens up xivg on my phone*

ooga booga where the catboys/male ras at
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>>165517029
stop posting my gif you fucking monkey
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>>165517029
I have both.
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>>165517029
Phoneposters are a blight upon this site. Please leave.
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>>165516907
surely itd be silly to have this screen with the option than
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>>165517267
i actually don't post from my phone... just read sometimes... i'm sorry
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>>165517234
You look like a fucking lizard, not even au ra like deadass an actual lizardman in the skin of a cat controlling the gubmint, cut diamond with that chin loooooord
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>>165517346
Man you really can't read can you
Look right above that
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Yoshi said something about dyable allagan and AF gear in a forum post!

I cant wait for them to make them dyable hassle free!
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>>165517346
>player characters on your world server
this is the server you are on

>player characters on a different world server
these are characters on servers that are not your own.

amazingly, you cannot have a datacenter-wide linkshell according to this
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>>165517441
Sssssss give me your sssskkiiiinnnn
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>>165517529
but by world server do they mean data center or not

like why have a two word phrase when you can just say server
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>>165517029
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Am I cute cat?
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>>165517587
because they are japanese, anon, and the people doing the patch note translation are doing fairly literal translations.

you're just shit at reading.
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>>165517746
I've never seen a cat before with that kind of skin color and big white marks around the nose andeyes
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>>165517746
Yeah but I'd rather a picture of you without that gross nigger you're hanging on.
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>>165517513
i wanna rail rylai
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>>165517924
Pls rail me instead... I'm your biggest fan...
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>>165517924
no rail me
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>>165516131
But if I do that then I'll be penalized and can't do anything for who knows how long.
>>165516259
Your temptation is strong but I'm not that weak!
>>165516262
Touch me and you'll be slapped.

They finally gave in after someone else refused to accept their raise after another wipe.
Someone please save Primal.
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>>165518198
>Touch me and you'll be slapped.
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>>165518198
either you're really unlucky on meeting people or primal is more fucked than aether
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>>165515435
Ah yes! I used an enb in my picture actually.
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Please queue up for Sohm Al/Dusk Vigil on aether. Need a tank.
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Is Paladin good or should I stop leveling GLD now?
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Want to level the worst class in the game, but tank queue times have spoiled me. How do I pass the time while waiting for queues?
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>>165518386
how2change background
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Do attribute bonuses carry between classes? If I give my marauder VIT, will my gladiator reap the benefits?
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>>165518198
>>165518596
Primal isn't salvageable, Aether is the only safe place to go. As long as you avoid Balmung you're better off on Aether

so be a true wise wolf and come to aether
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>>165518875
They do not, no.
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>>165518934
Thanks for the reply.

On that note, what's the best stat for marauders? STR?
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>>165516203
pls bring back sera
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>>165518776
It's good. Level whatever class you enjoy the most, don't make it a chore.
>>165518875
No, they're different for each class and raise throughout leveling the class.
The only class where attributes ever carry over are SMN and SCH, which people find as a big problem.
>>165518998
VIT is best for all tanks. If you want to meld materia on your accessories you would use STR instead (because VIT can't be melded on Fending accessories, as VIT is the main stat).
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>>165518198
>Touch me and you'll be slapped.
Would you really slap someone trying to console you?
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>>165518998
Nope. For every tank, you want to dump into VIT, because that gives you the most damage and health. You actually (almost?) never want to put points into any skills but your main damage one.
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>>165518998
Vit on all tanks (DRK, PLD, WAR)
STR on DRG and MNK
DEX on NIN, DRB, and MCH
MND on SCH, AST, and WHM
INT on SMN and BLM

There is no variation for stat allocation, though much much later in the game you might want to look into stat caps and replacement stats for materia melding.
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>>165518797
Well when i was leveling MCH i spent the time doing a levy here or there. Or just sat around and watched videos.
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>>165518806
image editing software lmao it's a trading card
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>>165519131
>>165519156
>>165519182
Great, thanks. My main class is gladiator which I have at 30 right now, with all points dumped to VIT. I leveled conjurer to 15 and am leveling marauder right now to carry over some skills to my gladiator, which I plan on making into a paladin.
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you don't care
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>>165519182
>DRB
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>>165519231

You people are a sickness.
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Reminder that this website isn't neko sentai and you don't need to inform the entire thread that you're a lonely permavirgin importing drawn pornography from Japan.
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>>165519428
erp trading cards are to make fun of people, not to honor them lol
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>>165519231
>the actual state of balmung
can't make this shit up
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>>165519347
Whatever, its a shit job anyway.
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>Friend says they're thinking of getting a commission
>AAANinja

Someone give me something to direct them to for something better.
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>>165519476
Those people* my bad. c@posters are unironically like this, so it's hard to tell sometimes.
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why is my screen purple
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>>165519551
direct a bullet to them
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>>165519551
All the good ones are backed up
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>>165519627
Looks like critical GPU failure. Restart your PlayStation.
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>>165519476
>B-BUT NOT ALL FEMROES
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xth for simpler times
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Does /vg/ have anyone to add to my new blacklist for when cross server PF hits?

I have compiled quite the list so far.
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>>165519754
Gay?
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>>165519754
ye
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>>165519754
it really was a simpler time
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do tomes uncap next patch
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>>165519476
this person is from tera, they rp 2 dragon dicks. click here to find out how
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>>165519967
NOPE.

AND STILL NO SOFTCAP EITHER
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>>165515824
Or they will compare it to WoW's god like pvp
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>>165519526
BRDs are essential in every team. W-without them who will be there to save your healers when they die and need MP back ASAP to continue their job as a healer? A BRD!
Who will be there when your tank has accidentally ran out of TP and is begging for a miracle that could help him gain more TP over time? A BRD!
Who will be there when your SMN or BLM want to prove they have the best DPS in the world? A BRD!
Who will you be looking for when you're surounded by enemies and need them all burned down to the group with the most superior AOE abilities of all time? A BRD!
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>>165519994
it's lerinu?
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>>165520065
akiva, old school
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>>165520018
Will you be happy if I apply Disembowel bby?
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>>165520018
My opinion on DRBs is completely changed.
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>>165519785
Gib list
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>>165519476
It's the same fucking thing you tool. Negative attention is positive attention.
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>>165520116
i dont know many of the oldschool chers
the person I mentioned also has two dragon dicks and tried to consensually violate me repeatedly
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>>165520018
Is there a guide to being a good bard?
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>>165520018
>butthurt mch false flagging

Sorry your class is inferior in every way.
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lf cute bf on Gilgamesh..
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If there's anything I learned from this general, attention is attention. Give people good attention and people come to them. Give people bad attention and idiots come to them and get burned.
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>>165520334
>tfw BRD + MCH is the optimal comp
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>>165520189
pastebin.com/NU2qzWAs
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>>165520504
if there's anything I learned from this general is that idiots like you will do whatever it takes to post anything not regarding to the game whatsoever
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Is there a minion with this mob's model?
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>>165520413
pst shiroduahodrkher
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>>165520610
He's not cute
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>>165520018
Bard is fun till 52. Then you become another caster class.
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>>165520605
no, no snurble minion as of yet.
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>>165520687
There's literally no reason to use Wanderer's Minuet until 54.
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>>165520650
dang dude
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>>165520687
Bard is still fun at 60, and still one of the most mobile classes in the game, right next to MCH and SMN.
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>>165520750
>>165520687
Hello fellow bards, do you just use minuet the entire fight or just to get off the special skills?
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>>165520762
It's true though
>>
WHY IS EVERYONE A FUCKING CAT OR LIZARD IN THIS GAME

WHY NO ELZN
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>tfw playing PLD for so long the monotony begins to drive you so insane that you actually start having fun
>>
any real jedis wanna duel me on jedi academy...?
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>>165520874
Bad proportions and animations
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>>165520715
Thank you.
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>>165520874
because anything else is shit looking and so is lizard for 90% of the people.
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>>165520847
yeah but still...
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>>165520953
everyone has the same animations and since when are long legs a bad thing
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>>165520584
Like what you're doing right now
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>>165521010
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post your openers

give others advice and cool tips

be nice to each other
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>>165520896
I embraced this madness back in ARR. PLD is actually really fun, in my opinion. It's not as hectic as DRK and is much more fun to min/max than WAR. The only thing I hate about PLD is Flash, and that I can't carry a party with my sick dps.
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>>165521212
>not waiting till team gets at least lb1 before opening with a pld
bet ur still stuck on arr raids kid
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>>165515824
I've played since 2.1 and it is the worst PvP in all of the MMOs I've played.
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>>165521212
I hope this is a joke
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Sorry guys, I'm a new white mage and I'm a bit confused at waht I did wrong.

Amdapor Hard, 2nd pull. From the wolves through the tentacles to the next room. I'm level 55 so sync'd down to the thing. My tank was an ilvl 260 warrior, synced.

During the pull, I did divine seal, POM, put up a regen and just started spamming Cure II.

The tank still ended up dying. I couldn't keep him up. I did a benediction right when he was low and once he was back up, kept the Cure II spam going but still couldn't.

Was there something else I should have done? Should I tried to have juggled a Stoneskin in there?
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>>165521427
>juggle a stoneskin in there

if you think for yourself a bit i am sure you can figure out why this is a horrible idea

it's more likely to be the tanks fault than anything
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>>165521427
there is ABSOLUTELY in a dungeon where if you are spamming Cure 2, with DS up or not, that it would be your fault if the tank died. Unless it was while you were using Stoneskin, that move is pretty much fucking worthless these days in-combat lol.

he probably just pulled most of the dungeon and didn't use any cooldowns.
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>>165521427
Tell him to pop a fucking heavier CD than Foresight, or tell your dps to stop being shit. Also make sure your weapon is around the same level you are. For additional mitigation use Holy, preferably while in Cleric's Stance, it stuns all mobs for 3 seconds. Also be careful with Cure II spam, you'll run out of mana depending on how long the pull lasts.
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>>165521427
Did he use cooldowns? Did he get hit by the fine or hit the mobs with the vine? That's a hard-hitting pull that I need to use my cooldowns on.
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does anyone wanna play ÷ with me
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>>165521212
>flashing 4 times
Its 3 you stupid nigger, you're ruining your blind uptimes.
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>>165521212
I actually laughed really fucking hard.

10/10
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>>165521663

I'm not sure if he used cooldowns. I don't know the game well enough to tell. He's iLvl 260 so I imagine he knows how to play his class but who knows.

>>165521646
Weapon is the same level as me, all my gear is up to date with the latest I can get (augmented ironworks). I know typically not to Cure II spam, it's just they were my heaviest and I couldn't even think of going back to Cure I to try to conserve mana or proc a freecure.
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>>165521793
If you were Cure 2 spamming I think it was either the tank not using his cooldowns or the DPS being super slow so he died anyway cos he had nothing left.
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>>165520018
It's funny you say this cause just in the last two days I've pretty much been having to do all this stuff as both BRD and MCH.
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>>165521212
>your average lala tank
on a related note, if someone goes into a raid as a mt and does this opener and posts a webm of the reaction I will legit pay for a commission of your ebin
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>>165521793
>He's iLvl 260 so I imagine he knows how to play his class
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. If you're on PC, install ACT and you can check if he used any/appropriate CDs. Most people in this game don't know shit about their job. Since you used Regen, and presumably kept it up when not spamming Cure II, you're largely not to blame at all. I'm willing to wager he wasn't using appropriate CDs, or the dps was garbage, or both. I frequently run 50 roulette on tank, and the only reason I die on big pulls is if the healer is garbage, i.e. no regen/spamming Cure III/using a level 49 weapon in a level 50 dungeon, or if the dps are doing sub-300 dps (this happens a lot) and I literally run out of cds before even half the mobs are dead.
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>>165517746
wanna FUG?
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>tfw everyone just picks on your cool opener and makes fun of you
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i think my game broke
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>>165521793
Ilvl 260 takes zero effort or knowledge. That's what level your free tomestone gear is at. And everyone should have their 260 weapon. Even if you're too bad to kill a12 normal, you can power your relic up to 260 now.
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>>165521427
stoneskin is less "healing" than a cure II, you'd be wasting your time. chances are he didn't use CDs or figured he could drop defiance and """dps."""

if you've got divine seal, regen, and maybe medica II up on someone and are spamming cure II on them, there's literally nothing else you can do, the pull is too big or the DPS are too shit
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>>165522550
its ok i liked it lalabro
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I don't want to get webbed, but I wouldn't mind having a cute subby grown man to care for and play with and maybe plan a future with...
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Is he /ourguy/? He truly represents the embodiment of xivg, Balmung, and the pvp community. ALSO hes the fc leader of the Average Joes, Balmungs hottest newest fc for new and old players!
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>>165522274

filename
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>>165522773
I can't believe I erp with this guy, thanks fo rurining it.
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What's the proportion of roles being played in ff14? It seems like maybe 10% of the total players are tanks and everyone else is DPS or healer
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>>165522550
Did you used to be an Elezen? I can't help but feel like I had an Aendyr Solus help me way back in 2.x for PRIMAL QUEUES. Could just be my mistake, though.
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elzn
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Post your retainers! I made a dadlander because I think they're cute and would give fantastic hugs.
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>>165522782
please
you're like a cuter flat chest who hasn't been tainted by dumb idiot grown man drakn backstabbing + sugi
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>>165523015
What face number is that?
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>>165522961
Yes I am an Elezen usually, and right now actually.
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>>165523072
Anything Sugi touches turns to shit. He's an awful person and I'm glad he's finally fucked off.
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after 37 runs of sophex ive seen 1 bird drop, is this normal or awful luck (this is the only ex primal ive managed since rav cause im a shitter)
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>>165523256
Normal.
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>>165523256
mate they increase drop rate on tuesday, stop running it.
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>>165523072

> drakn backstabbing + sugi

what do these words mean
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tfw you've been spoiled by WoW pvp and you come back to XIV's glorious slow motion pvp.
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looking for a bf on gilgamesh...
must be able to slit my throat
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>>165523339
love this meme. no they aren't.
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>>165523034
Hard to get a picture of the Au Ra, he's incredibly tall.
These are my babies tho
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>>165523354
>drakn backstabbing
Moni runs the FC, douchebag with no remorse
>sugi
fat mexican, avoid
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>tfw beating on striking dummies for 2 hours to burn my rotation into my brain
>tfw still making mistakes
Why does DRG have to have 1000 off-gcds?
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>>165523473
go back to balmung lily
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>>165523473
Sure, as long as you aren't sugi/shirou
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>>165523473
Name?
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>>165523615
Could be worse, you could be a MCH.
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>>165523256
Got my bird run first time sneaking my way in a bird farm and dying 6 times rolled a 96 got the bird, got a clear and said I had to do something.
Ez
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>>165523585

Sounds awful. I'll be sure to avoid the FC then.
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>>165523778
See ya in Lethe's private chambers in a week
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>>165523694
What's the job that has the most bullshit you have to maintain, and the most buttons you have to constantly press?
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>>165523526
You're right, the patch notes are just a lie...
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>>165523126
numbah 1 i think
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>>165523976

dragoon
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>>165523778
>Avoid
Rune
Seihai
Flat
Shana
Leathe A
Aranea
Seto
Lei
>keep at arm's length
Moni
Sushi
Guffy
Liora
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>>165523694
>MCH pretending they have any difficulty outside of Wildfire

kek
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>tfw pugs cant even get past numbers in a11s
theres no hope...................
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>>165524000
I've chosen poorly I see. Maybe I should just go BLM for the true DPS experience of pressing just a few buttons
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>>165524068
You got the lists backwards
Avoid Moni, Sushi, Guffy and maybe Liora, everyone else can be alright sometimes, just know that they're quick to backstab.
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>>165524068
But who should I hug?
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>>165524068
>Also avoid
Lil bun
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>>165524096
BLM is even more pain because of ley lines and enochian and shit

DRG isn't even bad
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As someone who's only attempted Savage once, am I properly geared for A9-11S at least? Not sure what the gear/acc requirement is to even be able to stand a chance.
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>>165524068

I'll just stick with my own, completely unrelated to /vg/ FC on Gilgamesh.
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>>165524074
>implying Wildfire bullshit alone doesn't already make it more difficult than its counterpart and most other dps
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>>165524187
What's wrong with Lil Bun?
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>>165524187
I dunno. I randomly did a leveling roulette with Lil Bun a while back and he was a pretty good tank. Didn't really stick around to chat with him, but pleasant enough.
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Elezens?
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>>165524193
>DRG isn't even bad
Yeah but keeping track of all these buffs and off cooldowns AND getting shit for being an edglord Kain wannabe makes me feel like I should just play something else.
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>>165524328
nobody relevant is going to "give you shit" for playing a job
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>>165524286
Anyone who unironically types *actions* and smilies into their sentences nonstop on top of being unjustifiably arrogant isnt worth being around. They have their own brand of crazy.
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>>165524091
>tfw literally just went through this
RF just isn't the way to go tonight...
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Starting from lv 1, how long would it take to reach 15 utilizing PotD?
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>>165524397
>i'm autistic and don't like someone who types differently than me so i project my insecurities onto him and hate him now >:(
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>>165524219
I maintanked a9s with i239 shit. You're fine.
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>>165524219
>way over acc cap
>shire feet
>shire ring
>shire necklace
Yep you're good to go. You only need 699/700 acc to hit anything from the front, and the ilvl requirement to RF 11s is 255 so you're good there, too. Question your life choices on those shire purchases, though. Also get the 260 relic, it's better than the 270 weapon.
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>>165524068
which people in drakn should I talk to then
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what happened to all the avatarfags
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>tfw 4 hours ago was the most active my server's ever been
>so happy, had hope for us all
>4 hours later and now there's only 2 things on pf
not fair
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>>165524617
I got my avatarfag license revoked after not avatarfaging for too long
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>>165524617
they gave up posting here, because they were the only ones discussing the game
now all we have is DRAKN samefagging
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>>165524479
Bun..
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>>165524617
I lurk.. usually.
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>>165524479
No need to anonymously defend your fuckbuddy who cuts off all communication with his so called "friends" to erp at the bench first thing of the day. He will forget you like the rest.
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>>165524697
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>>165524479
Its not about their typing alone if you read. They don't care about people around them. He is extremely arrogant and rude to even people he knows well and constantly seeks out arguments by intentionally trolling people.
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>>165524617
Don't worry friend i am ALWAYS HERE i just post anonymous often.
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>>165524617
Give it time were nearing euro hours
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>>165524668
Fear not friend, data center wide PF coming on Tuesday.
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>>165524617
waiting for the right moment to resub
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>>165524991
Better do it with a new account
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When is the patch where you can toggle the ninja run? I'm seriously about to just start running level 60 rogue.
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>>165524991
You son of a bitch, I need to bully you so HARD.
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>>165525045
why would I want to do the msq again
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Is MNK fun? How much of a pain in the fucking ass is keeping Grease Lightning up? I want to play a job that won't feel like the game is screaming at me.
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>>165524991
when ps5 comes out?
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>>165524068
Add Beepy as an honorable member.
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>>165525158
>"I want to play a job that takes no skill"
sorry man every job is going to have something extremely basic to keep up to do their job properly and if that's "the game screaming at you" i'm sorry but you just gotta suck it up and get better
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>>165525158
It's pretty easy and natural to keep GL up in a single pull. Just understand that between pulls you're going to lose it and don't worry too much about it, and you might enjoy the class.
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Question for you, /xivg/:
If I'm doing 300 less dps on my MCH than I do on my main, and my group has 6 physical dps classes, is rDPS going to be higher when I'm on MCH or when I'm playing my main?

For context, let's say the physical dps aren't very good, but the ranged physical and tanks are average in terms of dps.

Basically, does Hypercharge make up for the difference in dps between when I go MCH and when I play my main?
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>>165525158
GL3 isn't even something to think about in 90% of fights.

Demolish is the pain in the ass. To be the best monk you have to use touch of death and fracture to adjust your rotation to hit demolish when it has exactly 3 seconds remaining on its duration.
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Do you think yoshi would ever add a potd like place that basically was a series of bosses rather than trash + 1 boss?

The bosses are really the only fun in the game.
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>>165524617
Gotchu
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>>165525358
Yes it's called every raid.
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>>165524917
And all the terrible raiders will come with it.

Prepping for the inevitable death by flame.
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>>165525471
Raids don't give xp
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>>165525141
no please no more...

>>165525210
maybe sometime this weekend to prep for 3.5
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>>165525291
>does Hypercharge make up for the difference in dps between when I go MCH and when I play my main?
we literally wouldn't know unless we see your group numbers
you see 300 dps difference but don't say what your main class is. hypercharge isn't about you it's about your team, they could potentially making up for you sucking
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>>165525485
>this faggot won the sproutlanderbowl

woooooooow
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>>165525623
who's gonna be your butt buddy that you ignore everyone else for this time?
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>>165524586
The people who don't post here
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>mentor just threatened to kick me from the novice network for joking that your account gets reset every tuesday back to level 1
ok bro
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>>165525485
its pf, you choose and can kick who you want and don't want in your party to raid with idiot
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>>165525709
lol what
who do I ignore
I literally spend all day talking to people
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>>165525630
Hypercharge isnt 300 DPS I dont think, regardless of group
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>>165525761
And not playing the game
What a surprise....
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>>165525750
>ask for msq lore help in the novice network
>mentor replies "idk just skip the msq"
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Any people from Howl on the thread right now?

How are things? Did Ganit ever come back? Or Ezra? Who's this new person who's the leader now? Does Petra still play, or did she leave? We're no longer on speaking terms and I never came back to XIV because I didn't wanna deal with the fallout.
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>>165525759
I never claimed to be very clever no bully.
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>>165525485
Terrible raiders are everywhere though. I'm not worried about it. I'm sure someone will come up with a depressing but necessary data center blacklist.

Plus, we can set up cool cross-server stuff with the password features they're putting in.

I'll come back as fire and burn all the liars and leave a blanket of ash on the ground.

>>165525669
Rude. Just because I wear a cowboy hat and comfy clothes doesn't make me a faggot.
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>>165525850
because I'm not subbed right now
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>>165525146
beeper curse
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>>165525783
300 dps is like 2% of raid dps in a good group.

Now I'm not familiar enough with MCH to determine if hypercharge increases raid dps by more than 2% over the longterm, but that' the number to beat.
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>>165525884
He's not wrong, desu. The Real Reborn MSQ is pretty fucking lame.
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can't wait to buy potions to skip leveling DRK and AST
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>>165525989
while that's true, the HW msq is pretty good and only getting better. And since Stormblood has 3x the budget of Heavensward, which in turn had 5x the budget of ARR, we should look forward to it.
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>>165526084
120 dollars later...
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>>165525669
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>>165525989
I think its ok. A bit slow at times, and theres a really silly amount of pointless filler shit (especially in the 2.1-2.55 msq), but I think its mostly pretty good.

>return to minfillia in the waking sands
can fuck the fuck off though
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>>165525984
I dont think it does, especially when you have to take into account aoe.
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>>165526103
>that part in the HW MSQ where you visit the churning mists Moglins, and seeing everyones different reaction to them
>Iceheart getting embarrased that she said she thought they were cute
>Estinien just being unnerved by them and wanting to leave ASAP
so comfy
HW MSQ was great
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>>165526161
>return to minfillia in the waking sands
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Where did Kiss go? did he really quit /xivg/ forever?
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>>165525630
>we literally wouldn't know unless we see your group numbers
I'm just trying to figure if I should continue to work on gitting gud with MCH, or if I should just stick with my main. I've had MCH at 60 for a week and have one 270 piece, while my SMN has 5 270 pieces and 2 260 pieces and I've been playing it since ARR. Obviously MCH is going to bring more raid dps once I'm good enough with it to close the gap, but I'm not sure it's worth it right now.

Also, I've only run MCH once in 10 before, and I died twice in the run which is why there was such a big difference, but it still stands that I'm ass with MCH at the moment.

>inb4 you're shit at SMN too
Don't really care, I'm still one of the best on my no-name server and pull similar numbers to the people on my server that have the 270 weapon. I'll worry about being the best on my SMN when I have a group that needs me to be the best.
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I never did any guildheists, what's the deal with them? I understand they're supposed to teach newbies about their role in parties or something?
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>>165526446
They're basically just self contained mini challenges that are useful for teaching retards what kind of encounters they might come up against
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What's the best job if I want to go fuckign FAST
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post c@pits
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>>165526521
NINgger
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>>165526521
Ninja, Monk, or Black Mage if you have a pocket Astrologian who constantly feeds you speed buffs.
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>>165526542
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>>165526521
Probably ninja or dragoon, they have pretty whacky tobaccy attack animations

Bard I think does the most effective running around though
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>>165526603

how do i cute pose
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>>165526767
Start by picking a better race.
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>>165526561
>>165526583
>>165526610
Monk and dragoon sound good, but monk looks like it wears cloth, which makes you go faster so I'll play monk.
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>>165526930
shut the fuck up retard
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>>165526834

am i doin it rite?
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>>165526930
die baka
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>>165526975
Why
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thoughts on brd and mch in same raid groups? good or bad?
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>>165527074
dont ever respond to my posts again retard
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Post where you fellas go to pick up some fly, game dames.
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>>165518023
>>165518131
are either of you cute hyurs...?
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>>165526521
Monk.

Speed is actually detrimental to have for most classes, but Monk and Ninja have a lower base GCD. Of these monk is damaged the least by having high skill speed, since they have two TP recovery moves and they don't have mudras, which cut into your GCD. Higher speed = more gcds lost to mudra.
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>>165527136
The new meta comp is nin/drg/brd/mch. So for speed kills and shit, brd/mch is pretty great.
>>
>it's a party with 6 brds/mch in pop episode
>>
So I played this like two years ago fora couple weeks but didn't get very far because I didn't have time.

If I come back and start a new character, does heavansward actually add anything before the endgame part or am I better off not getting it until later?
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>>165527136
brd+mch together with drg/nin is literally the strongest raid comp right now
removing nin and having a summoner is actually pretty good too

it's very good but the reason 2 melee 1 ranged 1 caster is standard is basically because "what if the fight has mechanics or adds that only a caster can do/damage"
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>>165526930
Hung roegadyn dripping with precum!
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>>165527205
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>>165527235
You tell me, kid.
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>>165527250
>>165527283
why even bring a nin? isn't smn the absolute best for this raid tier?
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>>165526542
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>>165527283
>the reason 2 melee 1 ranged 1 caster is standard is basically because "what if the fight has mechanics or adds that only a caster can do/damage"
lol no. You have no idea how this game even works do you?
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>>165527283
That and loot drops. You're going to have someone fighting over accessories no matter what, but you want as little overlap as possible.
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>>165527429
fug
my kryptonite is asking to get railed
thought you had a someone ;)
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>>165527470
Benefits from physical hypercharge and also has TA. Shadewalker is nice too
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>>165527361
I almost shot curry out of my nose. Thanks anon.
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>>165527291
No! Miqote! Futa catgirls too!
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>>165527470
trick attack is good and it's enmity tools allow tanks to stay out of tank stance pretty much indefinitely, or tank swap without really needing to go into tank stance
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>>165527546
I do, still love your Elezen though. <3
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>>165527534
Why is it then
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>>165527534
>no counterargument

nice
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>>165527720
oh, is abe replying to himself?
>>
These melee circlejerk comps are getting really old. Hopefully Stormblood makes casters relevant again, and RDM/BRD/BLM/SMN can be a viable party comp.
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>>165527534
>I didn't do binding coil progression
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Livin the single life in a shitty apartment.

Could be worse!
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>>165527720
i mean >>165527537 is right but i just had it in my head that loot is less important than actually being able to perform the fight mechanics
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>>165525884
Goddamnit am I going to have to become a mentor so these screwballs don't fuck with one of the best parts of this game?

I'll become the lorelord if I have to I'm that retarded.
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>>165527812

Server?
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>>165527561
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>>165527652
haha the feeling is quite mutual
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>>165527859

Galgamush
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>>165527584
Futa is disgusting
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>>165503705
I finally got my DRK up to where my shitty WHM is, I really want this armor if it comes to NA, I understand Paladin is the best tank for pvp and I plan to get it up too at some point as well as a bunch of other classes.

But because its limited time, how fucked am I on DRK? I heard it was the worst of the tanks for PvP. (Which I find somewhat ironic.)
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>>165527936
what's your name ugly
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>>165526521
inb4 sloppy cunt embrace replies to this hours later
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>>165528125

> he thinks I'd tell him my name so some random anons can bother me in tells
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>>165528193
lily looking for some attention
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>>165528193
Careful cat, no one likes an over inflated ego.
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>>165527936
>c@poster
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>>165528245
>>165528250

Fine but you better not be weird.

Priscilla Fluffytail
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>>165528259
>that hair
>that face
>femroe
Works as neither a good avatar nor a good reaction image
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>>165528354
>Fluffytail
what exactly makes you think you're not the weird one
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>>165528424

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/crossbreed-priscilla
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>>165527936
Do you want a gilgamesh LS invite?

>>165528062
>>165528354
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PvP
No one really truely cares about PvP, other than nerds that don't play actual competitive games.

DRK sucks for PvP, but pretty much mandatory for PvE. Because "Lol why take a PLD when you can take a DRK."

If you want best of both worlds go WAR.
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>>165528489
>named themself "fluffytail"
>roleplaying a character from darksouls in a final fantasy mmo
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>>165528062
what do you mean "if"
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/001753.html

posted on the NA blog
dummy
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>>165528489
>naming yourself after fromsoft GARBAGE
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Anyone from Cactuar around? The fuck happened to Howl, why is it Bud now? Who's this new guy in the leader position?
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>>165528386
Wasn't INTENDED to be a reaction image, just some shit I found in my screenshots folder a bit ago.
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>>165528586

>implying roleplay and not just funny name

>>165528538
Sure, I guess
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>>165528489
Time to avoid you at all costs
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>>165528606
>22 more buttons to add to your pvp hotbars
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>>165528670
>wasn't INTENDED
>names image as a reaction

???boy you are real retarded aren't ya
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>>165528538
I just want the nice armor and dick around on BGs, If I play PvP I'd wanna go PLD or AST, but I dont have time to level a useful class, I got WHM or DRK, both at 55. And I had to level a WHM twice due to an error with upgrading an account. Some dogshit about a refer-a-friend gift copy and steam.

Needless to say I am sick of WHM.
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I'm thirsty for catboys
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could someone please list everything that DOESN'T carry over with you when you world transfer
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>>165528823

money over 1 mil gil on you or retainers

pretty much everything else does
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>>165527812

That apartment looks a little barren.
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How cheap could I get a full set of 250 BRD gear on Balmung? Assuming I have zero crafters/gatherers and I buy all the mats then get it crafted. Weapon is not an issue since I can just molest Sophia a bunch of times.
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>>165528823
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/option_service/world_transfer_service/
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>tfw you try to /em but accidentally put a capital <T> and everyone in idyl saw
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>>165528734
Yeah, I have a ton of shit named like that, actually. Mainly just dull cringy shit like this for when I'm bored.
I'm not an autist I swear.
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>>165528895
200k a piece about?
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>>165527483
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>>165518198
>mfw I was in that party
I was the dragoon but had to go, don't lose hope anon I got into a raid finder on Primal that got consistently to final phase the day before
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>>165528895
How good are you at ERP?
Alternatively, if youre actually good at the game, you can do sales.


>>165528823
Anything above 1 mil gil on both yourself and your retainers, so buy out your server's market. If you even have that much.

>>165528761
Just play DRK everyone needs DRK for everything in the game other than PvP, and even if you like to PvP, no one really plays it, and you will have a lot of long queues and waiting. So, gg.
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>>165529143
So around 2.2m or something. Wew. A bit more than what I have right now. Thanks, anon.
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How do you get exp in the Palace of the Dead? Just ran through my first time and I still have the same as I did when I entered.
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i didnt get any loot in a9/10s this week but i cleared it, can i go back in PF and rerun it and still be able to get the loot
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What's something you hope they're going to add(or change) in 4.0? Jobs aside, of course.
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>>165529389
nope
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>>165529364

You need to complete a set of ten floors. If you die or quit before then, you get nothing and have to start the set over.
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>>165529364

wrong

you get exp for killing in it on your main. nothing special to do. you are mistaken and didnt pay attention to your exp going in and out
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>>165529364
you need to clear the entire 10 floors without wiping and kill the final boss, then at the very end you will get the xp
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>>165529251
but did you clear
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>>165529415
/cpose expanded for genders / races. I like the girl DRK /cpose more than the Cloud Strife one for boys.

Tells in dungeons.

Chest / buns sliders, more sliders in general.

Unlikely, but you asked.
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>>165529303
I'm ok at both, I guess. I don't have a group to sell content with though.
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>>165529415
>Nero uses a gunhammer and is coming back in SB.
>Roe guy in the trailer uses a gunhammer.
>SB is pretty much going to be MNK focused, the only blunt weapon in the game with no synergy to it.

Hammer or Mace/shield tank, please. Blunt synergy for days.
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>>165529582
how do you lay down like that
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>talking so much shit about FF15 in NN that you get a mentor to chuck a huge bitch fit and blacklist you
feels good man
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>>165529415
I know we're going to Ala Mhigo and probably some Garlean camps.
It would be cool to actually be in the Empire itself though. Either the Eorzean forces take it over and win the war, or you go undercover or something.
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>>165529579
of course not and I don't expect to for a while

it took me so long to finally get my a10s clear
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>slut glamming ilvl 270 gear
why is this allowed
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I love when the weather is nice
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>>165529685
You epic trolled them anon :) Bet you didn't look like a massive sperg :)
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If I was to shill to people on FF14, what fetishes should I expect to see?
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>>165529650
Only beds and certain things let you do it. Use the /doze command.

Alt. play DRG and die at a whim like me.

>>165529621
I'd like an additional blunt DPS, I don't care for cool classes being tanks anymore since I dislike tanking in this game.

he did say other than jobs, though.
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>>165529621
did someone say hammer tank i'm here to shill for the usual

hammer+shield thundertank: VIKING

hell, they could straight up make the weapon category include both hammers and maces, since there's not really another job out there waiting to take either one of those.
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im free
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>>165529715
then theres no reason to have hope for primal and aether is the way to go
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>>165529723
It's like how insects and animal works with colors in the wild. It's to warn you to stay the fuck away from those people since they are nothing but bad news.
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>>165529746
t. mentor internet defence force
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>>165529764
Ah to be fair, this is an interesting idea.
Just didn't want it to devolve into SAM/BLU/DNC.
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>>165529764
how do you die whenever you want as a drg
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>>165529828
Dancing blue samurai who use the sheath of their katana to also do blunt DPS. Solved.
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>>165529804
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>>165529821
;)
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>>165529764
>I don't care for cool classes being tanks anymore since I dislike tanking in this game.

They don't even have to give it to a "cool" class. I'm be down for just Viking or some shit having them. Anything but Samurai. They'll weeb it the fuck up like they did Ninja.. I can hardly stomach being a NIN.
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who is the best guild master and why is it hamon holyfist
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>>165530014
Viking sounds cool to me.
I more mean, I'm tired of classes I want to play being tanks.

Sword user? DRK.
Axe user? WAR.
Don't give me a Viking or whatever and make it a tank, too.

Sometimes I just want to hit things with heavy or sharp weapons.

Also, uh, to be fair, ninjas and samurais are weeb in the first place.
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>>165530014
As worried as I was that we'd get a stupid Mystic Knight knockoff in RDM's clothing, YoshiP made the best possible RDM we could have ever gotten in this game.

I think we can trust Yoshi not to fuck up Samurai with bogging it down with TOO MUCH weeby shit. The guy is about representing jobs well, so he wouldn't forget about classics like Gil Toss.

>>165530107
ok so here is where we hit a really weird scenario long-term. can you think of a job that could (more importantly: should) be a tank that ISN'T Samurai or Viking (or Blue Mage, I guess, since I've seen at least one half-convincing argument in favor of such an implementation)?

We're kind of running out of things to do without causing outright thematic overlap. Because I know the first suggestion is going to be Templar as a lance wielding tank, and I'm not sure if there's enough there to really work with.
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>>165530107
Not sure what to say then, my man. I just am dying for a blunt tanking class.. preferably another one with a shield so the shield slot doesn't feel so wasted since only PLDs excluding crafters/gatherers can use them.

That said, didn't Yoshi say that if he brought SAM over it wouldn't be a tank?

And yeah, they are already weeb to start, but SE went out of their way to make them as obnoxiously weeby as possible, as far as an untoggleable Naruto run and the 50-60 storyline being about the small pink-haired princess of a ninja clan.
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heres my samurai idea

you have a weeb bar

until your weeb bar fills you do blunt damage and whack people with your sheathed katana

when your weeb bar fills up from whacking people you can shout "anime" and unsheath your sword for a bit, which changes damage to slashing and, i dunno, makes you do other cool shit

please upvote and send directly to yoshis home address
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>>165530316
Maybe.. if DNC were to be an option? It could play on the whole 'distraction' and evasion tank. While maybe offering small party buffs as well.
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We all know it's blue mage
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>>165530438
please don't even joke about dodge tanking
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>>165530316
Uhhh, Beastmaster? Have a large animal that takes the hits for you or something.

I dunno.

>>165530330
I remember Yoshi saying something along the lines of that, yeah.

I dunno, tanking in this game just feels unfulfilling for me, I wanna be the edgiest DPS I can most times since I feel like the skill ceiling is highest there.
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you guys are all faggots
we don't need another DoW class, we need a new DoL class
I propose hunting, for creatures via traps and such
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MY RUPEES!

Now I'll never get to the castle to kick Ganon's dick in.
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>>165530596
>Uhhh, Beastmaster?
Maybe, but that strikes me as ending up being more of a DPS class. The pet system is horribly underused just like blunt damage is, so if they're looking to expand, there's room there.
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>>165530596
I really don't forsee them ever letting a pet itself act as a tank again. Think back to literally anytime Titan-Egi has seen use, because if you didn't know it was always for a cheese strat.

Personally, given the state of Titan-Egi, I feel the best way to move forward on that would be to change Titan-Egi's function in serious content to that of a Tank-supporter. That is to say, Titan-Egi using Earthen Ward applies it to the Tank (or maybe the full party).

I think Beastmaster could be interesting as a Tank or a DPS, but I feel like I remember Yoshida stating he's not in a big hurry to add another pet job, and even if they do, it should be the human doing the tanking if anything.

Also I'd hope they gave them (or Blue Mage) Whips. Somebody needs to get some damn whips.
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>>165530682
Or some kind of underwater-based gatherer. There's room for both, I think, new DoL and DoW/M classes.
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>blunt damage
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>>165530906
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>>165530892
>underwater-based gatherer
Fisher

>>165530682
>hunting, for creatures via traps and such
can you explain in any way how this is remotely different from just killing a monster with a combat job

because if you can't, you have the same problem as runescape's hunter skill: a skill that exists just to say you're adding a new one
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>>165530892
They're kinda already giving over the underwater stuff to all the existing DoL classes so I dunno what else you could add in there that the others didn't take away.
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>>165530892
that'd be pretty cool, like an underwater gatherer but too bad they already allow that with fishing (ex. corral)

>>165530984
fuck off anon I was trying to secretly copy them
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>>165531154
don't worry anon i've thought the idea of a shepard gatherer would be kinda cool before too but i don't know if it really holds up. i think crafters and gatherers are in a good place, really.
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>>165530682
Here's your new gatherer. Repo-Man.

It's exactly like BTN and MIN except you go up to NPC nodes and repossess their stuff.
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>people who sell things for less than the vendor price
AHAHAHAHAHA IM GOING TO BE RICH!!!
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Being able to repair other people's stuff for gil would be nice...
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>>165530984
I kinda expect to be gathering magical kelp as a BTN in Stormblood.
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>>165531270
no it wouldn't idiot shut up
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>>165531270
Yeah... that'd be cool if that was in the ga- OH WAIT.
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>>165531270
No then we have the materia melding fiasco
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>>165530694
that's mean don't do that
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>>165531420
Ganon has it coming let's be real here.
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>>165531270
> In the middle of the raid
> Oh my stuff broke! Time to leave and make everyone wait!
God please, this.
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If they ever added a mage/pet tank like Beastmaster or Puppetmaster, would there be robes of fending? Would they just stick with casting/healing sets? Or would they just stick with having the class use heavy armor?

If the last one, why even bother with pets?
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>>165531453
yeah but you don't kick a guy in the dick dude
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>>165531505
>Your pet gets to wear gear as well
hehe cute
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>>165531550
Maybe he should wear a cup and also maybe not keep fucking up Hyrule.
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is there any good shiva x hraesvelgr porn
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>all the voidsent have irish names
really makes u think

anything you want to explain, spuki?
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>>165531669
In the 13th shard, aether took the form of potatoes.

The potato famine happened and the fair gingers of the 13th became creatures of darkness that seek the aether of other worlds. It's coincidentally why they are able to so easily mess with the lalafells.
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>>165531464
reminder that this bullshit only happens on aether because of all u balmung idiots who don't repair gear whenever you want by yourself
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>>165531643
no
do u want me to make some
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>>165523015
>neckzn
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>>165531859
i think that would be for the best
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>>165531505
>Can't get one pet class right
>Let's implement more
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>>165531643
Don't

>>165531901
Yeh reporting in.
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>>165531983
>grazing giraffes harass a smurf.jpg
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>>165531983
I hope you die in a freak accident someone soon.
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>>165532079
You're a terrible little pustule. Fuck off.
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>>165532051
You have a sharp eye for the truth

>>165532079
You mean like "die from excitement in a freak accident where I am awarded a sudden prize of lots of free french fries"? If so, me too.
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>Ippiki trials as WAR for a top tier Gilga static
>they take someone else as WAR and move him to DRK
>Ippiki trials as DRK
>they take someone else as DRK
Some world class tank you are
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>>165531969
What should it be like then?

No seriously I hate pet classes in basically all games, so I know nothing about them. I wanted summoner to have Stands.
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>>165531983
>Respectable blonde-haired, one eye-color, sensibly dressed giraffe.
>Standing in front of a blue-haired uguu so kawaii c@girl and a slut.

so close..
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>>165532173
>>165531860
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even: tell crush I like him
odd: alone forever
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>>165532165
you should change your skin to brown
blue skin isn't good if you're above ground
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>>165532218
why are you posting about him though?
not trying to start a "hey ippiki lol" or argument, I don't even know who these people are or am I on gilga, I just am genuinely curious as to why this seems to bother you
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>>165532218
Does he even play anymore?
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>>165532315
It's probably ippiki posting about himself again to trigger his fanboys.
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>>165532317
He got denied from S A D B O Y S twice so I think that means he plays.
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>>165532208
>free french fries
You would want that, wouldn't you?
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>>165531983

Weh.
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>in ZR
>want to raid but to shy to ask about it
HELP
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How's that Anima weapon coming along, anon?
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>>165532302
it's gray not blue!!
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>>165532438
I get you're trying to be like huhuhuh ur fat lmao, but would you honestly not want free french fries?
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>>165532524
Started collecting crystals for my third today because I hate myself and want to die.
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>>165532508
>in ZR
>want to raid
theres your problem
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>>165532524
It's getting there, JEEZ.
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>>165532524
had it for a while actually.
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>>165532548
Didn't mean anything of the sort.
And hell yeah, especially if they're Chic-fil-a waffle fries
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What is the most desirable and efficient tank for endgame content?

Just looking over some of the abilities it seems like Warrior is lacking as far as defensive capabilities go. Not a lot of cool downs for high damage moments. But seems to have solid AoE?

Paladin seems like it'd be the best. Cool downs out the ass and theyre all really good ones too. But AoE and DPS seems weak-ish??

Dark Knight just seems like a mash up of Warrior that uses mana.

So I'm conflicted here. I know that you can level other jobs and stuff but id like to start with the right one.
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>>165532438
ruki has elf ears???
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why do so many fem au ra use the potato face
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>>165532617
Tank is the least popular / efficient.

Dark Knight as a primary MainTank

Warrior as a primaly OffTank
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>>165532617
WAR has a spot in every static, PLD is trash.
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>>165532650
because the good horns have shit faces and the good faces have god awful horns
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>>165532524
First anima's ready for the next update.
51 sand-rubs required to pass the umbrite stage on the second anima, with 50 of the next set of tokens already ready for that moment. Should take about another week or so for that to happen but I'll be focusing on the first when the patch drops so we'll see.
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>>165532650
Because they have poor taste. This is the best face, but it has the worst fucking horns ever.
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>>165532650
Because they think big eyes = kawaii desu when in reality they look like unfinished muppets.
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>>165532663
Paladin* damn I'm tired.
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>>165532650
same reason so many people use shitty face3

people have different opinions than you
>>
Dear Primal. Please queue for Weeping City of Mhach. The queue sits at 1/1/3. Thank you.
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>>165532617
every single tank needs to have GLD (paladin preclass) at 22 to unlock taunt (yes its retarded that taunt is locked behind that), so if you want to start there its not a terrible idea. With that said, it's easier to level up secondary classes if your primary class is higher, and Maraurder (WAR preclass) is a lot funner to level than Gladiator.

You can't start DRK for a long time
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>>165532668
>PLD is trash

Really now? Interesting. It seems pretty strong. I guess I will go with Warrior.
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>>165532617
PLD is the best defensively. Once you have something on farm and you know you can beat the healing/mechanics checks you switch to DRK for faster clears. WAR is required in every group.
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>>165532754
Sec, logging on just for you
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>>165532598
if im 2 shy to ask about it in a FC of 4chan people what do you think my chances are in a normal FC?
not good
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>>165532770
No, a big reason that PLD is trash this tier is because it doesn't have the mitigation to handle a12s without extra swaps compared to DRK.
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>>165532727
But those horns are cute...

>>165532781
Thanks anon!
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>>165532508
what is zr?
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>>165532791
almost all of ZR is trash at the game so you're better off transferring but you could try party finder or something
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>>165531621
Maybe he does it cause someone kicked him in the dick before??
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>>165532759
Nothing wrong with PLD. If your group has a warrior, use whatever you want that isn't warrior. If your group does not have a warrior, you play warrior. It's a very simple situation, unless it's a12s then you play drk.
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>>165532830
Yes but it also kicks the shit out of a11s which is a harder fight overall.
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>>165532759
Its not COMPLETE trash, but its a weaker MT than DRK in the current content. It is probably due for some buffs come the expansion.
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>>165532703
Reminder that face 4 a best
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>tfw you finally hookup with that brownc@ you were eyeing
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>>165532914
That's the second worst reason I've ever heard for destroying a whole kingdom during a deranged power grab.
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>>165533008
It's a man, anon. It's a chubby man with a chubby dick, just like you.
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>>165532394
Hes asleep.
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>>165532438
>>165532614
I love french fries, and most all forms of potato really. Can't get enough of potato products.
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>>165532984
PLD is and always has been intended as an offtank. It's not SE's fault nobody uses cover as it's intended.

WAR is the switch hitter that can do it all.

DRK might pump out better numbers but its class design is clunky garbage and it's utterly worthless as an offtank.
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>>165533064
I hadn't thought about it, but okay. We still came up with a good story involving our characters regardless of what we look like.
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DRK had to have a whole raid teir shit out magic damage to make it contend with PLD, think about that shit.
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>>165533134
>DRK might pump out better numbers but its class design is clunky garbage
provide O N E good reason for why DRK is "clunky" that isn't just "I dont like it". I'm sick of seeing this meme complaint
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>>165532885
the FC on Ultros
>>165532896
id transfer if i was not a poor fag
as for them being shit
well its still fun to raid with 4chan in my experience
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>>165533134
>PLD is and always has been intended as an offtank. It's not SE's fault nobody uses cover as it's intended.

Pretty sure that's not what covers intended usage is
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>>165533134
Maybe they should have Cover work against magic damage
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>>165532230
>SMN is literally Shitlock from World of Mediocrecraft instead of any FF iteration of SMN
>SCH is a busted piece of shit with a guaranteed raid spot since it's actually a DPS
>Both jobs' pets only have one setting: Full retard

Basically nothing like these two, yeah
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>>165533224
Different guy here, but I can kind of understand the clunky argument. Every other class is, "1-2-3, 1-2- Shift+3 for Goring blade, etc." DRK is "1-2-3 = aggro combo, 1 shift+2 Dark Arts Shift+3 for damage, weaving in Dark Arts + Carve and Spit, throwing out plunge, etc.

I think it has a little less flow than the other two tanks, but I disagree with it being clunky.
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>>165533328
"any FF iteration of SMN" is just going to be a black mage or a white mage with a summon command, and the summon command isn't really anything substantively different from a black or white magic outside of like, FFX.
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>>165533328
>he doesn't use obey
Not my fault you're a retard, lmao
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>>165533379
It seems that for some people, any class that isn't straight 1 2 3 action is "clunky"

Fuck that, I think we need to get away from the 1-2-3 system being the primary skill set of every single fucking class
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>>165533206
I think the devs knee-jerked really hard when they saw DRK being torn apart by Ravana EX at 3.0 launch, so they quickly decided to make A4/S almost nothing but magic on the tank.
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>>165533413
xi would've been better but then we'd have garuda's ass every in idleshire

oh

oh

that's why they didn't...
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>>165532727
Them lips
Those eyes
More?
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>>165533251
is it a zettai fanclub or something
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>>165533521
I don't really like XI's Summoner a whole lot. But then again, I'm perfectly satisfied with the IDEA of our current SMN (including Egis over "real" Summons), just maybe not necessarily the execution.
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>>165533453
I think the clunky thing mostly comes from the fact that you have to weave Dark Arts into everything, and there's a lot of weaving in general between crap, actually. That and that you have to use MP to turn Grit on.

But that being said, DPS have to do that naturally anyways, and since the DRK is pretty much a DPS-tank hybrid, it makes sense.
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>>165533413
This.
People forget that everyone's favorite SMN, Rydia, used black magic half the time. And playing a SMN in FFV usually meant cross classing another school of magic, or whatever other class you wanted to. Summons are the appeal, but Summoners bread and butter has historically been a combination of effects.
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>>165533224
The fact that power slash even exists, for one. You've got a whole separate combo just for enmity that is actively detrimental to use, since it doesn't give you MP. Contrast with Paladin where your damage and enmity combos have the same second hit, and the enmity finisher also has the debuff. They could literally put an enmity bonus on delirium and get rid of the entire power slash combo.

Unleash is just unnecessary, any time you would use unleash, you could use abyssal drain and it would be more effective.

The fact that you can't use blood sword in grit, meaning you do enough extra damage outside of grit that the enmity bonus is almost cancelled out.

And finally the fact that their entire defensive suite is aped from paladin, with the exception of Dark Mind.

>>165533379
Carve and Spit is actually one of the good points. Very well designed skill.
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>>165533552
Ah, she's just an alt. I'll have to make more later.Sorry anon.
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>>165533328
That didn't answer my question at all.
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>>165533621
You used Black Magic on anything that Titan wasn't better against until you got Leviathan, and then you spammed that until you got -aga spells, and then when you got Bahamut that was literally all you'd ever use.

Rydia is honestly a really shitty execution of Summoner (and FF3 and 5 weren't really any better).
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>>165533635
>Carve and Spit is actually one of the good points. Very well designed skill.
The mo is negligible and you'd be retarded to use it for that purpose.

It's a fire and forget 'Use me with dark arts when I come off cooldown' piece of trash.
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>>165533753
You always use it for that purpose for AOE damage.
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>>165533635
none of this means the class is clunky
also holy shit
>why doesn't every combo generate mana I dont want to actually have to micromanage my resources waaaah
fuck off
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>>165533752
Eh. Summon magic in general has always been indistinguishable from black magic, except that it costs more and hits harder until you get ultima, then it just becomes worthless.

>>165533874
There's no managing about it, you flat out will never use power slash outside of two combos at the start if you were the one who pulled, which you won't be because the meta right now is to have a warrior do unchained pull and you provoke off him.
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Why SE? Why would you change it from:
Mithril Ingot: 3 Mithril ore

to this?

What did I ever do to you?
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>>165533635
>The fact that you can't use blood sword in grit, meaning you do enough extra damage outside of grit that the enmity bonus is almost cancelled out.

Are you seriously saying you thing BS should be useable in Grit? Do you want the job to be overpowered? It's little nuances like the fact that you can't use X with grit or that you need OP to use X that makes the class more interesting than all the boring cut and dry bullshit in this game.

Too many jobs are just really simple "follow flowchart" machines. They're not engaging. If you want the extra damage from BS, you have to sacrifice the damage reduction from grit. I think that is engaging gameplay.
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>>165533874
>Playing a micromanagement game within a game is fun
Go play with a abacus while beating off to eve online, punk assault nerd
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>>165532727
>Hating on best horns.

There is nothing wrong with them outside of earrings being pretty much hidden.
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>>165534010
>the game isnt fun unless a literal 3 year old could play it to perfection
fuck that, the game needs more interesting shit in its class rotations.
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>>165534024
rylai, naaki, lethe and quite a few other psychopaths used these horns so they're a red flag to me, this lizard is cute but sorry
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>>165533976
A lot of the basic component recipes in HW are a lot different from how the equivalents were in ARR. Someone at SE decided, a long time ago, to have leathers use botanist items because mining was just too convenient
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>>165534024
That's not true demon horns (face 4)
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>>165534024
>There is nothing wrong with them
are you kidding?
they look like they weigh as much as her head
imagine walking around with half a head on each side of your face
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>>165534096
>>165534024
And paks, that man alone ruined all face 3 au ra for me
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>>165533993
Frankly I want grit to just not exist because it's just an even worse shield oath. They need to come up with something fucking better than a "tank mode" for every tank class.

Hell, if they boosted the enmity on DA power slash and the life drain on soul eater, you'd never need it anyway.

>>165534096
To add to this, grit isn't interesting. The alternative is just...not grit. The life drain from soul eater is negligible and it shouldn't be.

Bump up the damage reduction of all their cds by 10%, get rid of grit since it's basically being used as a cooldown anyway, and make DA power slash 15x enmity instead of 6.5x and then we'll have something interesting.
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>>165534112
but mining is too convenient as it is right now
everyone thinks I'm a fag now because I main botanist
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>>165534282
Botanist is great, though. I love Botanist's folklore nodes. Miner just has a lot going for it, but it had more going for it back when it single-handedly catered to LTW through the alumens
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>>165534101
>>165534252
>mfw its true
what is it about face 3
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>>165534263
yeah well
i agree, but no doubt they'll do none of this
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>>165534101
Thats too bad. I dont know who those people are.

>>165534142
Maybe its just my headcanon. But i always thought of them as light. Also once again its just me. But in a pic they stand out. But when your running around playing and whatnot they blend in fine.
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>>165534101
Really it's just Paks who fucked up those horns. Fuck that piss drinking little autist.
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>>165533062
Hey I don't think you know how much it sucks to get kicked in the dick

What the heck is the first anyways?
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>>165534263
>They need to come up with something fucking better than a "tank mode" for every tank class.

What the actual fuck is the point of these? I could forgive PLD and WAR having them, but to then ALSO put it on the new tank - why? All it means is that low level tanks struggle to hold emnity, then they get their stance and they can finally tank properly, only to barely (exageration but you know) use it at end game because everything is about muh damage
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how come aranea changed into a clone of evie if he hates evie
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>>165534507
Kicked in the butt.
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>>165534574
because he can't make his own characters
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>>165534574
He did it with Alice too
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>>165534540
Agreed completely.

I don't even like the oaths. They're boring. Sword Oath increases your attack power by increasing your auto attack damage, meaning you literally get no benefit to anything you are consciously doing. And the accuracy buff is just dumb because who the fuck is going to go into an instance with less accuracy than they need to hit in dps stance?

The stances work for warrior because warrior is far and away the best designed class in the game. You don't change to deliverance for the 5% attack bonus, you change to deliverance so you can FELL CLEAVE and possibly get some TP back from equilibrium. AND you aren't actually taking any more damage from having done so.
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>>165534781
You are taking more damage indirectly by reducing the amount of healing incoming
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>>165534737
the only thing he's good at is cloning characters and throwing fits when people hug his bf
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>>165534574
>evie is the inventor of ashcats

fuck off
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>>165534781
change sword oath to shield-on-back and doublehanding your swords. add sword oath moves and shit. take oaths off the GCD.
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>>165534847
Yes but if you get a Regen in defiance it stays boosted. And if your healers aren't cleric stancing, you should probably stay in deliverance anyway because fuck them they don't get to be lazy.
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>>165534847
There is a relevant difference between
>take 20% less damage
and
>receive 20% more healing
the former allows you to survive tankbusters, while the second just allows healers to maintain you without expending as much MP
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>>165534870
Salty cuck
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>Sophic lanner drops for once in sixteen moons
>Lose it
And so we begin to never see it again until Tuesday
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>>165534574
I like aranea's new cat, it is really cute and so what if it is an "evie" clone
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>>165534970
yeah he is a salty cuck he begs people to post about him and begs his bf to embrace him in front of people who hug them lol
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>>165534870
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>playing au ra
>playing miqo'te

You know, if you really wanted to distinguish yourselves from each other, you'd try playing a race that isn't already also played by over 50% of the game's active population.
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>>165534024
I rather like these horns.

This is my alt i never play.
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>>165534870
beta cucks have no right to speak

it's your own fault for being this fucking retarded
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>>165535057
Is this directed generally or at someone in particular? I play au ra because I think they look neat, not to try and stand out as a SPESHUL SNOWFLAYKE
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>>165535054
Poor Gyoni, he's too sweet to deserve someone so fucking greasy
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>>165534982
I saw the lanner drop 3/3 times the other day.

I also rolled single digits on it 3/3 times.
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>>165534880
No, but whenever they break up with someone they make Chinese bootlegs of their exs
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>>165534574
the only similarity is their skin color, quit trying to stir things up you drama loving fuck
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Quick, name your (personal) top 5 most hated xivg users of all time.
Who do you hate the most? Let it out as anon and hope they read it.
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>>165535054
what is the full story behind all this crap
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>>165535036
>Aranea tells me he'll lewd with me if I post "I want Aranea to do __"
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>>165535208
I don't hate anyone
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>>165535236
abe has a meltdown
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>>165535073
i wasn't the one who hugged his bf though so it's not my fault
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Guys ;)
I'm nice, I promise ;)

Introducing the saltiest cuck living within this thread
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>>165535236
Aranea was basically dating Abe and Gyoni for over a month and hiding them from eachother
Don't really know much else besides that Aranea was having threesomes with Abe and thread sluts behind his back. Poor Gyo.
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>>165535334
>>165535334
>>165535334
>>165535334
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>>165535340
>>165535340
>>165535340

time to carry ur drama and bullshit and complete lack of game discussion to a new thread
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>>165535253
That's not going to cause drama though, anon
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>>165534598
it's close but idk, dick is kinda like a front butt
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>>165527235
how about both
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>>165535387
I'm not one for drama, sorry
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>>165535360
>poor gyo
but they're still together.
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>>165535440
um no?
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>>165535559
they are still dating. not sure what happened to abe. i hope he's not that stupid too.
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>>165535606
lmao you got to be kidding me
post proof
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>>165535674
i don't save chat logs so you'll have to take my word for it, but they are still all over eachother in-game. just ask them.
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>>165535058
These horns are the best!
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>>165513747
>8th sticker applies on the opposite side of the book, denying me a 2 line chance at the top left

[autistic screeching intensifies]
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>>165535738
doubt it but sure
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>>165535126
dumb enough to keep dating him though
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