/acg/ - Armored Core General: We Did It Edition

Is Verdict Day worth getting?

>>165481317
I would say yes. You ever play Jet Set Radio before?

>>165473309
Do people still play this game? What are the meta weapons currently? I'd guess stuff like battle rifles and sniper rifles and maybe later rifles and probably pile bunkers

>>165481431

Forever ago.

>>165481703
I assume you're talking about VD.

There are a few major meta builds in team matches. Laser cannon tanks, sniper cannon tanks, physical blade RJs, dual battle rifle mids. You mostly only see these in conquest mode though, and by long-established teams that have worked this strategy down to a science for each map.

But the fact is, by now, if you fight 1v1 against someone they have already seen all the meta shit and already know how to counter it, so there's no true 'meta'. The 'meta' becomes "whatever works ideally against what you think your opponent will bring" because using the right weapon is always better than using the best weapon.

Meta defense distributions are still:

1505 / 1882 / KE
1111 / 2040 / 2200 / 2350 CE
801 / 1091 / 1240 / 1500 / 2500 TE

though you can always get away with running more wild defenses if you focus on some specific strategy like physical blades.

Piles are not really that good anymore because people can actually see them coming and will bait you. Physical blades have infinite ammo and do about the same damage when used on quad legs, and get a MASSIVE hitbox increase when paired with a grind blade or mass blade.

>>165481317
Yeah. Even for the single player is pretty good, though the game was obviously designed for multiplayer

Just make sure you stick with it past the main game. Hardcore Mode, UNAC customization, and multiplayer is the best part of VD.

>>165486678
>>165481703
Oh, also KE shields are a major part of the International server meta. They are a complete shutdown of sniper builds, and since CE weapons have poor range, you need to either rush in close or use TE weapons to break the shields. So if you run KE, you need to make sure your bay weapons can break shields easily.

>>165481317
>>165481703
Get VD if you want to play multiplayer or if you like the slower, strategic combat and haven't played the PS2 games.

If you want a pure single player experience to see what the franchise is like at its best, get AC3, Nexus, or Silent Line instead.

>>165487214
>>165486678
Don't bother. That's old and stale copypasta one person tried to push.

>>165487557
what part is copypasta?

>>165486678
3 of the things you mentioned are not really meta at all desu. Sniper tanks require hitting gud, LC tank is bad outside of a team that can support it very well and even then it's super vulnerable to rushdown and makes for an easy target to snowball into a 4v3. BR midweight is uncommon and you see 3BR heavies far more often. If you had said shotgun/3BR mid I would have given you that though. Even though I rarely see it for some reason.
Also your defense thresholds are off. 801 TE doesn't block all PMGs, it's 2036 CE to block 3BR, etc. And also you neglected mentioning recoil resist which is kinda important considering your 2300CE Aoi heavy will still get eaten by stagger tools paired with 3BR thanks to that 20% defense drop and Aoi having no RR.
(I realize that post is pasta but discussion is legit)

>>165486678
Also phys blades on a quad is a gimmick build that is not going to hit anyone with a brain, equal skill levels and an AC that can wallclimb unless they get a flank or it's a flat map. The UW also doesn't increase hitbox size, just increases damage. It increases the speed of the kick hitbox though

>>165488473
I admit I haven't played that actively in a while, but are you talking about INT or JP? I was talking about JP team matches, I almost never see a JP team without at least one tank, and no one there runs shotgun / 3BR mids. Those are only on INT.

First TE break was 833, I just forgot the number, you're right about that. I think 2040 covers the best tracking CE medium missiles (or is it 2050?). The rest you are correct about.

>>165489075
I was talking about INT, JP has a more tangible meta thanks to more activity. The tanks you're seeing are rarely gonna be laser tanks though. I think the lack of shotgun 3BR cones from there being less things in that defense range, but that doesn't make the strat any less legitimate. I also feel like nips prefer laser speed.
The true terror on both servers is a team with burst damage weaponry that knows how to focus their fire. Coordination means you can pick out the most susceptible enemy and evaporate their AC, and from there it's basically gg.

in my experience, it doesn't matter what you say, if someone asks "what's meta?" whoever responds first is going to get disagreed with by everyone who responds afterward.

There's no one consensus on meta, it depends on which tiny group you played with this month. Game isn't active enough anymore to have a defined meta.

>>165487557
You gon play sometime this weekend?

>>165489629
Do people still run gank squad super heavy UNACs? I remember at least 3 players who had a full team of heavies using gats or BRs that would focus fire on one person and just out-DPS them. They would only fight on the desert maps, too

>>165489854
3 or 4 laser speed quads is still a thing. I don't see any gats ever though

>>165489851
Probably. I've moved back into the dorm, so I have a little time before the semester starts.
But not tomorrow. Gotta go wreck some fags at a prerelease.
>>165488257
The weapons. It was one guy who was always trying to push the battle rifles, sniper rifles, and laser rifles were the meta and then never trying to reinforce the point after that. Kind of a
>this is what I think and I'm right and I'm going to reiterate this every several threads until you like it
Or it could just be somebody else who remembers that guy.

Well after a successful thread I guess the next one is doomed

>>165498615
It's the curse.

Also wednesdays/thursdays tend to be the slowest time

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>>165498615
We usually go through a few short lived threads before getting to another big one:

>>165487445

> if you like the slower, strategic combat
I do like that

>and haven't played the PS2 games.
I have though, I think Silent Line and Last Raven were my favorites. I genuinely missed radiators when they removed them in AC4.

>>165503150
You will likely enjoy ACVD. It feels like a 2013 version of AC2:AA, with better characters. I'd say it's top 5 AC games for me.

Whens AC6 coming out

>>165508468
Wait till E3, it is rumored that AC6 is being developed alongside the 3 other titles From Software's working on.

>>165498615
At this point, is basically a curse

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I always undestood what he said as "Fuck the craddles, all of them"

>>165521661
Kinky. I mean, I believe it. Look at that emblem.

>>165521661
Kek, same.

fuck the craddles!

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>>165526509
>>165521661
>craddles

So do you think they could use the same engine as Bloodborne/Dark Souls 3 for AC6? A lot of the framework is already there. With all the different armors and weapons with various infusions the number crunching is already there, stamina is the generator, rings/runes are optional parts, etc.

>>165526879

its with only one "d"?

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>>165530658

>>165530901

I see, so its cradle, not craddle.

My apologies.

>>165531251
No biggie, just poking fun.

What OS do you guys use for PC gaming? I was thinking of something to emulate AC games on, but I'm afraid of upgrading to Windows 10. However, I can't find Windows 7 or 8 anywhere.

>>165531330

By the way, can paraplegic people be pilots?

Or there was a paraplegic Raven/Lynx?

>>165531490
It's up to you, what flavor of botnet do you want?

>>165531516
I'm sure they can, there are no specifics about AC piloting other than for Lynx. Which have a mental link in addition to manual piloting.

What AC game has the best overall setting for non combatants? What's the life of your average salary man like in AC?

>>165531490
My computer automatically installed windows 10 without my consent from windows 7. I wasn't wanting to upgrade at all but I got used to the new setup and it really sped up my computer, just make sure that you turn off the datamining stuff during the installation process. It also emulates perfectly fine in windows 10, I played Front Mission 4 & 5 and Monster Rancher 4 recently.

>>165532025

Yes! I can bomb niggas while on a wheelchair

>>165532119
Probly from one of the original AC games, at least humanity isnt completely fucked then.

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>>165532264
Kek

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>>165486678
they still didnt balance the minimum KE threshold? DESU the 1505 is way too easy to achieve and giving HBP dominate the meta and left meds to dust (except for Frequency legs)

I wish dual tansies are fun again.

>>165501184
>Even the Soluh's concept art looks cooler than the ingame model
Every single time.

>>165532157
>turn off the data mining stuff in installation
You're funny Xez
You better get on blocking that shit through your router

>>165532771
>get 1505 KE defense because that's what you need right
>someone brings an autocannon on power spec with a stagger tool
>die in 10 seconds from full health
Also dual Tansies are still fun imo

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>>165535661

>>165489075
Are you on JP VG, SPECTRE, or some other team entirely?

I feel like at least three people in this thread have played on completely different versions of JP.

>>165541352
Tell us about your JP experience anon.

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A highly skilled NEXT pilot (one of the top 10) is coming to wreck your corporation's shit. You have an insanely huge amount of funding to set up your defenses to ward off the attack, but you're not allowed to hire another NEXT to participate in the defense. Everything else is fair game.

What weapons and strategies do you use to defeat the NEXT? Keep in mind, this guy (pic related) is funding your operation so you can go nuts. But you have to pay him back (with interest), so you want to devise a usable strategy that also isn't too expensive.

>>165547324

I would make the base fly and reach Cradle airspace, denying the fight in the first place.

penis

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>>165547571
That didn't stop Old King and Strayed. The NEXT pilot has to spend some extra resources to get to such a high altitude, but ultimately destroys your base with ease since you didn't put any other opposition in his way.

You died.

>>165551650

Well, only Oldking is mad enough to destroy the cradles

>>165530234
I hope they do, sometimes I resent FA visuals

.>>165532119
VD seems to be a nice place to live, the war has reach a stalemate and the fight for the towers is mostly some skirmish here and there, and outside of the towns near the towers, civils dont seem to be that afected from war, I suppose that living on the cities is pretty safe and without the worry of getting invade out of nowhere.

>>165547324
First, move my most critical assets underground. This will be done by only my most trusted and by word of mouth. No one must know of this.
Second, beef up security/detection systems heavily to detect an incoming NEXT at a distance and whatever else that comes to assault the base.
Third, purchase/construct 50 Normals of slight variation to harass the NEXT.
Fourth, hire/purchase/construct 30 jet fighter planes, with 10 using EN weapons and all 40 using seekers.
Fifth, outfit the outside of my base with turrets that have fast lock-on capabilities and seeker missles.
Sixth, if defenses fail I will use my personal NEXT to destroy the attacker.

>>165553779
Meant to say 40 jet fighters.

>>165532119
Probably SL. Most of society just was released from the controller's control, so they are discovering all sorts of new resources and land and most AC pilots are off in unexplored areas outside of Layered.

>>165531516
I'm fairly sure that Cube piloted his AC purely with his mind.

>>165531490
Windows 10 is better for emulation. It's a lot faster and more efficient and you get things like directx12 and virtual memory that windows 7 and 8 didn't have. 10 is probably the best windows OS since XP.

>>165554709

Isn't CUBE an AI?

>>165547324
Kojima generators/cannons that make sure that their PA is down, 3 teams of Silent Avalance, who will only pop up out of the snow when the AC is surrounded, as well as ECM makers.

Then cabracan's drones. Tons of them. As many of them as we can afford. Just keep sending them after the NEXT, non stop.

They will have no radar, no PA, and no way to avoid damage, eventually they will succumb. A next can easily avoid any super weapon and kill any giant monster, but even the best pilot can't avoid all damage.

>>165555106
He's a human with an AI brain, like most of Reaper Squad.

>>165555275

So, wait, Cube is an reverse robocop?

>>165532119
>What AC game has the best overall setting for non combatants?
I'd say AC2 AA, if the mysterious Disorder Unit mission in the big city is anything to go by, life on earth is pretty cushy by AC standards.

>>165555824
AC2AA was so nice they had to reboot the storyline to make things shitty again.

It's the only AC game with world peace and mars exploration.

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If only Omer made the glourious BATTLE TRIKE.

>>165560510
The concept art really made the Lahire look closer to Aaliyah

>battle trike

In our dreams. Imagine jousting with that thing.

>>165560832
I really wish we got the top left one or the bottom right one, the bottom right is giving me Aretha vibes

>>165544368
Sure, I'll try to sum up ~95% of the stuff you see on JP.

Kumo and SR LRJs are on top of the food chain, with the latter dishing out low damage, but having absurd survivability. They're not necessarily part of every team composition, though. Next up are Sawa quads, who just shit on anything fast/with lower than 1870 KE defense. You can substitute those with a Sawa HBP, depending on the map, just so you don't get smashed by gat+plasma missile quads. Those usually go together with 1/2 Large Missile Podenka HBPs, supported by an MBP with single/dual mdl. 3 subs. The dual subbed versions usually hold a SG+3BR combo; the single subbed ones have Podenkas on 199 stability arms. If the HBP is feeling confident in his lock-on capabilities, the MBP can just go with a CIWS, though. Then there's a bunch of builds which are less commonly used, due to being too specific/suboptimal/too risky to hire. Gat+Plasma quads only really excel against Sawa quads. Podenka+VTF quads shit on tanks and HBPs, but get stomped by Sawa quads. Heat Cannon WAs are decent, but have less ammo/DPS than the Podenka+Missiles combo. As for tanks, you usually see the AC/AC+HC combo, with the occasional LC tank in the mix. Good DPS, but once you've got some permagliding HBP up your ass, you're in deep shit, so you better have some good kicking skills. Goes doubly so for LC tanks. Some players use PG+SG+CIWS LBPs, but those can't really do anything those other builds can't do just as well. Piles, SC/Howie tanks and Kick ACs, you only see on players who are known for using that type of AC anyway; too high risk for too little reward for most teams. Barely anyone uses KE rifles and HRJs Kumo quads got out of fashion after the meta switched from HBP Strek gangbangs to even more floaty quads.

Probably forgot something important, but that's just about it.

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>>165568187
Thanks for the info.

>>165569691
It''s fun to see different opinions, even though we're all stuck in the same old lion's den.

What do you call a good idea that no one advocated?

Unsung

What do you call a bad idea that no one spoke up against?

Unsung

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>>165571209
Literally the worst NEXT in the game. Even Celebrity Ash is better.

>>165575193
but it looks cool

>>165577832
>chicken legs

>>165577972
It looks cool.

AP AT 10%

>>165577832
Damn right, Unsung is terrible NEXT, but is cool as fuck

>>165582987
Isn't it only terrible because the legs don't actually support the weight of the AC? If the load capacity was higher it would be pretty decent

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>>165582987
Pff, I could probably make it work in a SNFA battle.

>>165547324
Get a fuck tonne of drones and strap some sort of en explosives to them. Kamikazee the next with them. Even if they shoot down the drones, they'll eventually get caught in the explosion. Then silent avalanche pops out and takes shots while the PA armour is down. If they manage to make it to the base, we have a fuck tonne of missiles and turrets. We'll take the next down with a sheer volume of fire power.
Finally, the base has a kojima reactor hidden in it. If the NEXT makes it to the base, we overload it and cause a huge kojima explosion. Meanwhile, I've already evacuated out an underground tunnel.

>>165575193
Marve and the laser bazooka actually have fucking insane DPS and PA reduction. Great weapons.

What kills Unsung is the absolutely horrible AI, since he barely ever uses those weapons. The missiles are shit, though I think the tracking was a lot better in the first regulation. The legs seemed to get nerfed in later regs too.

>>165585539

See:
>>165555169

Now let's combine our ideas and make the drones have PA-killing kojima explosions when they kamikaze. Even if they miss the kojima explosion will kill the next's PA, making them easy pickings for silent avalanche.

>>165586742
How much does it cost to make a kojima reactor?
LET'S STICK ASSAULT ARMOUR ON THE DRONES

>>165585539
>Kamikaze Drones

DID YOU LEARN NOTHING FROM NEXUS AND LAST RAVEN!

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Heavies seem to be associated with low ranking ravens/lynx's. I can only seem to find success using heavy ACs.

Mfw I'm a shit pilot

>>165601314
Heavies are real good support though.

>>165601314
I think that's because of how From does their AI. Heavies are associated with bad pilots because the AIs all have the same movement and tracking, but vary mostly in how good their reaction time dodging or turning is. Heavies, even at high dodging, are still pretty easy to hit.

Heavies in the hands of a good human though are always a terrifying threat because they can be less aggressive than the AI is and avoid being out-turned.

>>165473309
HOW DO YOU GET PCX2 TO WORK ON MAC
I'VE LOOKED AND THERE BARELY ANY COHESIVE GUIDES

Bimp

>>165605593
Run a windows virtual machine

YOU ARE LEAVING THE COMBAT ZONE

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bump

>>165622264
I never understood this, how do you even play with that configuration.

>>165623214
If memory serves, it's an old JP community meme, because "AC needs more fingers to play than you can use while holding a controller normally." Or something to that effect. Either way, not actually a serious thing, for most people.

Good lord, its time of the day again

>>165630853
Time of the night. East coast is asleep, west coast will be asleep soon too, and EU won't wake up for a while. We have no one here during those hours because we're all NA/EU with no asian posters.

>>165631951

Its about to be 9am where I live, i am awaken

>>165536009

I just got windows 10 myself. I really hate that MS is shoving all of this down our throat holes. But I've found some workarounds that go right into the system that keep the telemetry at bay.

These next days will just be me monitoring them to make sure they stick. If not, I'm going to moscow to shiv the russians that MS sells my info to.

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good night /acg/

>>165635487

Goodnight

How long until From announces a AC title that has an actual worth while story that makes you start from the bottom then go to the top and actually have a shit ton of multiplayer modes

>>165641492
>FromSoft
>Good Single Player
>Good Multiplayer

They can't do both at the same time.

>>165641864
If Chromehounds just had more singleplayer missions that got increasingly complex and featured more enemy Hounds, they would have managed to pull off good single and multiplayer for once.

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If this thread passes page 10, the only person allowed to pilot Aaliyah-chan from now on is me.

b u m p

>>165547324
With the power of music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srnyVw-OR0g

>>165658040
But what if the other pilot is already blasting Thinker at max volume in his cockpit?

>>165658328
Harmonic dissonance so great it would rip the world in twain.

Videogames today? Anyone? Pls

>>165661491
The disc drive on my PS3 died. Sorry.

>>165641492
Doesn't that describe ACVD? You literally start from the bottom and kill every other AC in the world, Last Raven style.

>>165661491

Sorry man. Just set up my new computer. So I'm really busy.

>>165665810
>>165661650
EXCUSES
ALWAYS
AAAAAAHHHHHHq

I'm down for video games once I finish eating.
I think there may be something wrong with my ethernet cable, though, so we'll find out if I can actually video games.

>>165657934
My favorite interpretation of Ambient's pilot.

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>>165661491
We can do some SNFA today if the people demand it.

I'm guessing that the NEXTs and their staff live on Earth rather than in the cradles. Do you think Collared headquarters is on (or under) the surface?

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>>165680340
Collared is just a puppet organization for the League really, so it could actually be based in the Cradles.

Boomp

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>>165653393
You wish.

Hey anon. I like melee ACs. I've gone lightweight for my entire career as a pilot, despite not being very good. My question is: How big of a difference of speed/durability is there between a lightweight and a medium weight AC?

>>165691979
Medium weights are good if you want to bring extra equipment into engagements and have some more armor. You get more options.

>>165691979
This kind of depends on the game in question since they have different mechanics in each gen. I'll just assume you're asking about the current gen games though.

In 4/FA the difference is notable but you'll still go pretty fast in a midweight as long as you don't have any HUEG weapons on your back or anything. Pure blades makes for a pretty light build, so you can get away with running a midweight if you really wanted to. I'd suggest using mostly light parts and maybe throwing in one or two middleweight parts on the side if you really want a beefier build.

For V/VD, middleweight units can go pretty fast if you're good at wall jumping and glide boosting, and some of the medium legs are pretty much equal to and sometimes entirely better than lightweight legs, though you'll want to match them with lightweight parts in order to get the full effect of it. You need to be a bit more careful in the V gen though due to how defenses work. Faster builds are better at trying to avoid damage entirely, so you don't want to slow yourself down too much with middleweight parts if you're good enough at maneuvering to go really fast.

Just try out different configurations and see what feels right for you.

>>165692730
>>165692924
Thank you both.

So what I need to do is find a good mix of light and midweight parts to get a touch more defense without slowing myself down to the point of being hit much?

>>165691979
It really depends on the game, but weight "class" is definitely not the determining factor in speed. Boosters, enemy weapon types, accelleration, weight cap, en recov/cap, turning, etc. all have to be taken into consideration. There's no way to just make your AC "faster" across the board.

You can make a heavyweight in most games that is as fast / faster in raw speed than some lightweights. But to do that, you have to compromise somewhere else. To know exactly what the compromise is, you have to look at your defenses and other stats.

In ACNX through ACLR, the amount of unused weight cap also adds to your speed, so midweight legs are the fastest usually, but lightweight legs (despite being slower) have much faster turning and walking speeds. They also accelerate quicker.

In Armored Core V and VD, because defense is threshold based, if the enemy is using a bunch of 1500 KE weapons, you might gain very little from having higher than 1500 KE defense. So often, heavyweights or midweights don't really have higher defense in one area than lightweights, but they have fewer weaknesses with sometimes higher AP.

In AC4 and FA, because of quick turning and quick boosting, heavies can be as "fast" as lightweights in terns of positioning, but are much slower when it comes to covering ground or range, but they have a much higher defense and PA durability.

It's never a simple trade off, and that's what makes these games great.

>>165693382
Which game?

Ideally you want to pair your weapons and frame parts so that they work well together. So if you're a sniper, focus on things like raw forward / backward speed so you can stay away while firing. If you're using machine guns, focus on turning speed. For melee, focus on acceleration and precision.

Then decide how to compensate for any weaknesses. A lightweight leg set that uses melee weapons might have enough extra weight cap that it can equip midweight core, head, and arms, giving it mid-weight level defense without losing speed. But a lightweight that uses laser rifles might need to equip only lightweight parts to fit them on the weight cap.

Also, if you're fighting people that are only using ballistic weapons, you could focus on ballistic defense. This might let you get mid-weight level defenses without a weight penalty.

>>165694172
Ah. Thank you. I wasn't aware of any of that.

>>165694513
ACVD.

Just as a note. I spent most of my income on generators and boosters (I don't remember if I went for power or acceleration) in order to move quickly and stay in the air as much as possible.

>>165678737
Really?

>>165695094

In terms of trade-offs, here is an oversimplification:

Light on high power is the fastest
Mid on high power = Light on high accel
Heavy on high power = mid on high accel
Heavy on high accel is the slowest

You can move up a weight class by equipping lightweight weapons (mid with light weapons = light with mid weight weapons).

High accel gives you longer glide boost, quicker high boost, and more movement precision. High power gives you longer jumps and higher top speed.

Light = KE, TE, or CE. Pick 1 defense. You will be weak to the other 2.
Mid = KE, TE, or CE. Pick 2 defenses. You will be weak to the other 1.
Heavy = Pick 2. You won't have many obvious weaknesses.
Tanks = You will be near-invulnerable to 1 or 2 damage types, with no obvious weaknesses.

You could also double-down on one defense and gain really high defense against most weapons in that category, so a heavy could have 1 weakness and 1 near-invulnerability to a class.

Quads hover in the air the longest, so a light quad is the best fast aerial AC.

>>165696464
Thank you. I'll be sure to save the info so I can go back to it.

>>165697404
Use scan mode to see opponent's weapon power to estimate your defenses.

The charts in the garage customization page show you both your speed over time (top chart) and your damage vs attack power (bottom chart). Use that information to your advantage to customize against the enemy.

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>>165695745
Yeah, I like the ergo proxy esque look of it.

>>165699362
>ergo proxy

that explains why it looks soo emontionless.

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What would you base the plot of an Armored Core movie around?

>>165718738
The first season of Aldnoah.Zero is basically Armored Core 2: The Anime

I would like to see Master of Arena's plot adapted into an Armored Core movie, following Young Leos Klein as he rises through the ranks and then finds out that Nine Ball, the guy who killed his parts, is actually an AI intended to defeat powerful pilots as a way to keep humanity under control.

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>>165718738
Probably either the first or second gens basic premise.

The first gen is simple enough with the revenge plot against hustler one.

Second gen for the space expansion and warring governments between earth and mars.

Hell you could do two movies for the first two gens to pull of the leos klein plot twist

>>165719289
>>165718738

LR would make a great plot too, if you have already established the idea of what Armored Core are. It's a good deconstruction of the whole mercenary motivation, with all the ravens killing each other until only one remains.

>>165718738

I'd love to see a minimalist movie about the series. The intro movies were always fun to watch because of how fast paced they were, and the robots talked with their guns first, words second.

>>165719289
That windows bar at the bottom though.

>>165720774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZBlnUf-KrY

Add 30 minutes before this and 30 minutes after, and that's all you need.

bumpenis

Wake up a/Crono/g

>>165740192
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>>165695094
Lightweight is very situational if you're mentioning bipeds. The lightweight reverse joint gives you much more armour and the Fisherman LRJ is so good compared to other Medium.

Lightweight bipeds have VERY SHITTY stability, and if you're not careful picking the right head unit, you probably end up insta-staggered by full power rifles or a sneeze. They have very good turning and speed, but turning speeds are not very advantageous since you can just drift to turn quick. You might need to couple it up with fast lock FCS and some high impact hit and run weapons like shotguns, piles you name it. Or even a sniper rifle ( but usually that goes for homosniper LRJ builds)

Although I know certain edgelord who loves using Nowakis.

MBP (Medium bipeds) gives you the most balanced stats in terms of mobility. They are kings when it comes to flatlands medium range combat, terrain makes it important to choose which legs you're going for.


In terms of boosters, just avoid Efficient boosters unless you're trying to build funny meme like Permaglide Plasma shower on High Caps.

>>165746109

Hello, B ranker the Wanker~

>>165751069
>MBPs are kings in flatlands medium range combat
What? Tanks rule the Flatlands, along with melee and LRJ maybe. Removing the vertical axis from MBPs makes them easy kills.

Also, Nowakis are great for bluelock snipers.

>>165751278
Hello

>>165751620
shit I meant to type LRJ but I mixed up in copy pasting.

Disregard that, Im a faggot

AC 4, 4A or V for PC when??

>>165754414
Whenever PS3/360 emulators become a thing.

>>165751069
The high KE defense lightweight legs have excellent turning and are a good choice for close range shotguns or pulse guns.

Midweights rule popshotting maps.

>>165754414
You're better off emulating the PS2/PSP games on PC.

Honestly, AC3, SL, and LR play better than AC4/FA anyway. If I had to pick my choice for an official HD remake or PC port, it would be that.

>>165756281
I prefer the speed of 4A over any other AC game.

I just hope they'll make the next AC game for PC. An AC game that playes like the 4A - V games.

>>165757138
AC4/FA aren't really faster than other AC games, and are a lot slower than ACLR or ACVD. They -feel- faster because your speed relative to the environment is higher. Your accelleration and speed relative to other enemies (because of range and size differences) are smaller. So it feels faster when you're moving forward but it's slower when you're making precise movements or maneuvers.

AC4/FA is more like a spiritual successor to Murakumo: Renegade Mech Pursuit than an AC game, in my opinion.

Here's what I would suggest:

PC games to try:
>Project Nimbus

Games to emulate on PC:
>Murakumo Renegade Mech Pursuit (Xbox, unsure how good the emulation is)
>Zone of the Enders 2 (PS2)
>Zone of the Enders 1 (PS2, not as good or needed to enjoy 2)
>Another Century's Episode (PS2)
>Another Century's Episode Portable (PSP)

There's a bunch of PS2 gundam games that are pretty fast-paced, but they're all in Japanese so you might need to find a fan translation patch.

Fact is, prior to 2013 or so, "Japanese" mech games just couldn't work on PC. Controllers weren't as ubiquitous and Japanese publishers had no reason to port their games to a platform that ~1-2% of their customers use. PC gaming is still very niche in Japan and all the 'fast' anime style mech games are purely console only. It wasn't until recently that controllers, development ease, and feedback on PC got good enough to allow for Japanese publishers to start making PC games.

>>165754414
We don't need a V port, just a VD one.

>>165776445
Who dat? Zinaida?

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Best corporation

>>165782389
Rayleonard did nothing wrong

>>165785616
If they did nothing wrong then why are they dead?

>>165785796
Because the good die young

>>165782389
If this thread goes 404, then Rayleonard if the official sponsor of /acg/

>>165787262
Don't say things like that. I'll stop bumping the thread and let it die.

>>165787408
This the following thread after reaching bump limit, I think Rayleonard will become the official sponsor of /acg/

But I am actually amazed that we have survive this long

>>165788064
We have survived for all this time, why would we die now

>>165789426
because of the curse.

>>165789573

Like a phoenix, we will be horribly burned into ashes.

Or was that "we will rise from death"? I forget.

>>165791331
On death, the phoenix burns itself to ashes, from which rises a dark raven

>>165792430
This could be used as the next part of the "myth" of the Dark Raven.

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Man i'm all fucked up after watching the Regular Show finale.

>>165795652
That had a finale? already? it was good?

>>165795870
It was fantastic.

>>165796235
I wonder what will come after that one, will CN tried to make something similar again?

>>165798330
Nothing will ever be like Regular Show, and I have no idea what's in the future for CN but they won't ever be showing Regular Show reruns due to some reason. All I got left to watch is Adventure Time and I have very low expectations on the finale for it.

>>165798614
> reruns

Well, we have the internet for that, and maybe netflix

>>165799228
Yeah I know, just was stating the news i've heard while reading comments on the finale in /co/

>>165799337
If I take a guess, I suppose that one of the reasons for no having reruns is for much of the content and many "getting shit past radar" stuff.

>>165795652

Did the cuck bird finally find someone for him?

>>165806725
Yeah.

He ends up with a bat girl that was thrown in during the 3 minute epilogue.

>>165811002
>seeing art like this keeps me going on the last raven balance patch, so that one day I could use that AC in a competitive scenario and still have it be viable.

>>165812023
How is progress?

Godamn the mech thread on /v/ was shit

>>165835221
They're always shit

>>165837680

Well, when I mean shit I mean Wonderful Body levels of tard.

It was a good thread until a sperg made into a west vs east thread and people refused to stop biting it, some dude had AC esque fangame and no gave a fuck.

Is this how the cradlemen felt when Oldking blew them?

>>165807813
>spoiler

I fucking hate those last minute relationship upgrades.

What's the best AC game I can play on PC? Nine Breaker, Formula Front, Nexus, Silent Line, AC3? Or is there some other mech game for pc that got this amount of customization, speed and manouverability?

I've tried Front Mission 3, Strike Suit Zero, MWO, MAV and Heavy Gear Assault and all of them are very lackluster compared to AC games like 4A, V and VD which are my favorites.

>>165838151
>>165835221

I was there, man. I feel you. I hate that the mech community there is so divisive. East and west mechs need to unite together, we're not a very big genre and we're slowly being overtaken by the waifu trash and the dudebro shooters.

>>165847235
>talks about east/west mecha needing to come together to save the genre
>makes a subtle jab at Titanfall, the best mecha series on current gen
Kill yourself breh

>inb4 the "titanfall isn't mecha" meme

>>165847517
I concur, Titanfall 1 and 2 are GOAT.

>>165845907
Armored Core is the mech game what Grabd Turismo is to racing games, except much better. I'd suggest going from start to finish.

>>165829351
I had to go back and re-do the AP/Def/weight numbers because of the min-max values contributing to tuning, so first draft of them hadsome broken tuning possibilities (leg parts def was high enough that you couldn't tune them for defense, but other parts had low defense so they could be tuned really high even on heavy parts).

I've also figured out that EO core range is not a value stored like other stats, which makes me think the game stores its range values in some other format, which I haven't figured out yet.

I'll be uploading some min-max testing showing the slowest and fastest builds using different boosters to test movement next.

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>>165835221
>Let me guess, it was basically Western vs Japanese shitflin-

And then I saw >>165838151.

Seriously, those threads are full of retards, but then again that entire board is chock full of 'em. How many nofunfaggots were spamming tanks as well?

>>165847517
Tiddyfall is damn excellent. I just hope there's some expanded universe material as well down the road.

>>165851468
Man, I am torn withing titanfall 2 and persona 5. Help me /acg/

>>165851468
When are we going to get a game from the IMC's perspective?

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>>165847517
>>165849072
Except Titanfall is exactly what he's complaining about. Even the devs refuse to call it a "mech game" because they're afraid of the connotations, and mechanically it's almost entirely a first person shooter. If games like Titanfall are the only "good" mech games anymore, then developers will be convinced that in order to make a mech game, they -have- to make it a first person shooter or else it won't sell.

The only possible mech games to make right now are either "Gundam" which won't sell in the west, or "FPS but with power suits". We don't need "West" and "East' mech games to unite. We need a single mech game to show an easy-to-develop-for formula that doesn't fit those two stereotypes. This shows validation for the market and reduces the risk that publishers take when approving new games. Until that happens, publishers and studios will never approach anything with the word "mech" on it unless the devs can design it as a different game and sell it to a different audience, like Titanfall.

In the west, the only established genre segmentation for mech games are free to play / MMOs like Hawken or MWO. And most of them (like MAV and Heavy Gear Assault) are early access dumpster fires being made by devs way in over their head, because major producers won't touch the genre- for good reason. There's no proof that anyone wants mech games, but tons of proof that people like MMOs, Hack and Slash, and FPS.

The good news is that there is a new single player Mechwarrior game and a new turn based Battletech game coming out, on top of a new Armored Core, which might provide publishers with better understanding of the market.

>>165845907
Probably. AC3. See attached picture.

Also see:>>165760113 for non-AC mech games. There are almost no solid examples of a complex mech-focused game exclusive to PC though.

>>165852108

This guy gets it. I like Titanfall, but I don't like the shooter aspect taking priority over the robots.

>>165856886
The question for me is always:
"What can you do in a mech that plays differently from any other genre?"

ZoE/Gundam: Sci-fi melee combat in space with lots of support weapons
Armored Core: Immersive customization of body parts and repair costs for taking damage.
Mechwarrior: squad-based tank combat with many different classes and weapons.

Titanfall: ..basic FPS gameplay... but.we replaced killstreak bonuses with power suits!


If you replaced the mechs in those games with traditional tanks, helicopters, space ships, etc. it would change the gameplay of the first three but NOT change the gameplay of Titanfall. Mechwarrior would change the least, but the lack of diversity and walking movement would change it enough to no longer be a mech game. But Titanfall would play pretty much identically.

>>165859046
I always thought that AC could probably have blown up a little on ps3/xbox by now if menus and matchmaking were better (and 5 hadn't been the disaster it was). Or are people's attention spans really that short?

>>165864561
A major problem is that they blew all their marketing on AC4 and AC5, leaving none for For Answer and Verdict Day. For answer sold well in Japan but mediocre in the US, Verdict Day sold poorly across the board despite getting great reviews (for an AC game).

4 and 5 had too many problems to reach mainstream appeal, For Answer was too niche, and Verdict Day received no marketing whatsoever (not even an intro video).

>>165866530
I know. But I feel like VD especially could have been a small sleeper hit if not for the fact that it's an absolute pain in the ass to get a multiplayer game going. It also requires a lot of time spent on an increasingly unpolished and mediocre single player mode to stand a chance in pvp.
In my opinion, AC should go back to focusing development on single player experience and gameplay mechanics purely, then just give all maps and game type options to an FB mode. No more world mode bullshit unless they go all the way and make Chromehounds 2.

>>165869024
Manual matchmaking was a mistake. They just need a simple "Find me a match" option that automatically pulls players who are waiting to fight into a team or a lobby.

No game made after 2010 should require you to constantly check to see if other players are free if you want to fight.

>>165869865
As long as they still give the option of manual matchmaking, sure

Whats the best PS2/PSP AC game?

Mech building and combat wise

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>>165882172
I liked Silent Line the most. But definitely play AC3 if you were looking to play it. You can import you save and start off with some pretty good shit

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>>165882172
Last Raven hands down.

>>165882172
Last raven is the best, but it's hard for newbies. AC3 or SL is the recommended starting point.

>>165866530
>(not even an intro video

every goddamn time I remember this, I get angry.

>>165892978
You kinda start liking the cold open after a while, it doesn't have a title screen either after all.
>Now resuming mission operations. Welcome back.
I can see what they were going for, and I think it's not bad.

>>165896362

Yeah, and they did include a sort of opening ala the trailer in-game, just hidden away in options.

I think From just became way too ambitious. Gotta temper it with moderation.

>>165896362
They could make that after starting the game for the first time, it didnt appear anymore and you had to go the the extra menu to see it again if you wanted.

>>165473309
I'm playing AC4 but Chapter 3 is really kicking my ass. Haven't really upgraded my mech outside of weapons. Did I fuck up?

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>>165852108
>>165859046
>>165851468

I am certainly late to the party, but what made me salty was that people choose to ignore a fella who was making some sort of homebrew AC fangame,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfMJrq4KgHE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwmSPRj9nAg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-0FveegZeo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rkIL54KNLw

Take a trip to the past with me /vg/.

Huh, Pailsen Files was kind of all right up until those last two episodes. Wonderful twist, though.
>>165897262
Depends on your frame.
That said, weapons are probably more important anyway.
>>165897679
Oh right, I need to check out the updated M4World. Does someone still have the link for that?

>>165898491

Sorry oldmen, but I don't.

>>165847517
>inb4 the "titanfall isn't mecha" meme

Man, I kinda resent myself for letting the controversy from that almost ride up to me until I actually checked what that quote said. So many idiotic butthurt /m/fags who couldn't understand context. Sure, the guy could have worded it better by just comparing it to Eastern stuff or Transformers but damn it's still insane how people misunderstand it.

>>165851468
Some annoying tankfags

>>165852108
>>165859046
Genuine question, I don't mean to sound snarky. Have you played Titanfall? I'm asking because a lot of the arguments you make are extremely similar to the same ones I made about the first Titanfall when the trailers came out because I fucking hated most western stuff (except for some Battletech) until a friend let me try the game out.

>>165898491
>updated M4World
https://adam-baska.itch.io/project-m

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>>165898491
I actually kinda like the Pailsen Files OP, if only for the depiction of the ATs as Gilgamesh's equivalent to the Imperial fucking Guard as well as the overall military heavy demonstration from both the audio and visual side of it. Some parts of that series are the definition of fucking "meh" though.

Also the SRW Z2 version is pretty nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FSLs03bKbY

>>165851786
Never played a Persona game before (I do want to though) but Titanfall 2 is mecha, parkour, and fast (the latter two of which is more easily done on PC as I assume you're asking whether or not to get one of the two on the PS4).

Word of warning if you go for Titanfall 2 on consoles though, I heard that the aim assist is fucked up and makes a lot of weapons stupid to fight against, like semi-automatics and the Hemlok, which is the only infantry burst-fire weapon in existence in that game. There's some balance issues that both PCs and consoles have to deal with like Devotion/DMR + A-WALL faggots as well as the occasional Tonestacks but I imagine that all of these will be balanced again soon considering how much people are bitching about them. There's also a noticeable quirk in map design in some of the maps that just doesn't feel right to me in 2, but hopefully that will be remedied soon as they say they're going to import more Tiddyfall 1 maps.

All that said, it's still a fucking top notch shooter and a damn fine mecha game with a kickass (but short) campaign full of /m/ tropes and even a plot device that you might not expect for a game like this, as well as a great AI Titan buddy that actually feels like a genuine presence by your side. Titan Pilot and Infantry Pilot gameplay blend so seamlessly that I don't know which one I prefer more: going fast in the air and nailing faggots with the equivalent of a Spinfusor from Tribes, or being in a giant fucking robot and stomping on slows while dueling rival Titans until I can fucking Getter Beam them.

live

pls

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Can an NEXT squad take a godzilla?

>>165917489
I'm pretty sure a single NEXT could annihilate Godzilla. It wouldn't even be able to retaliate because of how fast NEXTs can move.

Biosensor doesn't exist in the AC4 setting though, so shitty pilots who can't use manual aiming might actually struggle with this.

>>165918556

Godzilla is too large to be missed, if you can't hit something bigger than giga base you shouldn't be piloting a next

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>>165918951
>>165918556

>>165919031

Explain, I am too butthurt with a game at the moment.

>>165897262
As ahab mentioned, you could probably make do with some adjustments to your AC frame. find out what you're having trouble with (booster, energy) and find what works best for you. also what regulation version? i had to go through AC4 on the default regulation so i don't know how much is changed compared to yours

>>165907138
>because I fucking hated most western stuff (except for some Battletech) until a friend let me try the game out.

desu i went through the same thing. MechWarrior and stuff is fine and i play them on occasion if i have nothing else or want to have simulator like gameplay but i greatly prefer more humanoid robots with upscaled weapons like rifles over the whole chickenwalker with built-in weapon arms walking tank kind of shit. I saw the Titanfall trailer and thought "eh, i'd rather play an actual shooter" but then i actually got my hands on a used copy and I loved it. It's great because it strikes like a sort of middle ground between the two regional design philosophies. gameplay wise the Titans, except for Tone, don't feel like killstreak at all considering good pilots are still on equal ground if they know a thing or two about vertical movement, but that can work both ways so i guess that's why some people see it akin to killstreaks. it sure as hell isn't if you're relatively skilled though.

the only thing I'm still not used to is setting-wise, how pilots and titans are treated and how expendable they are despite their superior training and presumably equipment as well. maybe that's something that is left for the future but i digress.

>>165918556
This reminds me, i would have loved to see an assortment of a form of biological creatures that you'd have to fight against in AC4/FA. not sure how they would make them a threat to NEXTS but it would have been very cool to see because they were a interesting encounter in the other games. Though with how much we know of ACFA apparently being on a shoestring budget it would never happen

>>165922639
>biological creatures that you'd have to fight against in AC4/FA
I don't think they would work well in those games, but Kojima monsters that have mutated over the centuries could have been cool enemies in the V era, especially in the underground tunnel levels.

>>165922951
Yeah i was trying to think of maybe how to make it work, like making them be found in those deep underground kojima research facilities and they would fire supervelocity needles like hydralisks, so that you'd have to be constantly dodging or some shit, or just making them a swarm-type enemy like the cabracan AF drones. ACV/VD would be neat too, imagine going through the infested tunnels with a team of ACs with giant spotlights.

Honestly i just want more mecha vidya vs organic enemies, small or giant/kaiju. EDF is perfect for this but i'd like a version of EDF with more fantastical/imaginary alien creatures just to see how they do it, Lost planet series is cool too though.

Also does anyone have recommendations for decent mecha anime in recent seasons? I'm starting to slowly go through my backlog I have accumulated over the past few years, I just finished Argevollen and Break Blade while kinda painfully going through IBO S2.

>>165917489
Which Godzilla though?

>>165924528

The movie ones

>>165923842
>IBO 2

Man I was expecting that after S1, S2 was going more for the private military company aspect that Tekkadan is, sadly it doesnt.

>>165908846
Yeah, I can agree with that. The vocals are what kill the OP for me.
>>165924823
There's, like, at least four of those that I can think of and I'm not even a hard Godzilla fan.
>>165922951
>Kojima Amida boss
>>165907562
Cool, thanks.

>>165926467
>Kojima Amida boss

Holy shit, horrible.

Imagine a long story mission from V, at first you fight a bunch of normal mooks, suddenly, the place is swarmed by amidas, attacking everthing, after moving around and trying to retreat from the massive invasion, you have to go underground and find the nest, at the end you have to fight the "queen" with a natural KP field that damage you over time like on the second phase of black glint.

>>165926467

Ok, all of the "godzillas" godzillas from vidya

So, if any godzilla is just called godzilla, ignoring space and mecha godzies, they are present as bosses

>>165908846
>>165907138

I don't think anyone is implying that Titanfall 2 is a bad game. I can definitely understand why people like it. It's just that some people are burned from the concept of mechs being a "shameful thing" like in that interview. I know you say the guy is being taken out of context, but he really should've been a little more considerate to the very audience he was pandering to. Second, like it's been said before, I would've preferred it without being another shooter, and with auto-aim no less. Put it on the PC and require me to actually aim, and I'd definitely give it more of a try. Third, I'm still angry at them for having the gall to release Titanfall 1 at full price without even a singleplayer campaign. Just the nerve of that is infuriating. I know TiFa2 corrected that, but the damage was already done if you ask me.

>>165930420
Don't worry, I know that nobody's really trying to imply that, I just wanted to know what his experience was like with the game(s).

TiFA 2 is on PC though, and it's primarily where my experience with it and the first one comes from. No autoaim on PC, it's entirely dependent on your ability with a mouse. Hell, the only reason I picked up TiFA 2 was because it was half off in the holiday season. I liked the original Titanfall, but not enough to justify spending $60 on the sequel even if it did have a campaign, because like you, I was sorta disappointed with how they handled it in the first one.

If a Free Weekend trial ever comes up again, you should give it a whirl as it'll be on all platforms. Unfortunately on PC, it uses Origin, but I don't have too much of a problem with its modern version except for its atrocious in-game UI but I don't think most people have ever tried to seriously use it for anything other than checking the time and inviting friends to games.

I do think that those guys in that interview should have chosen their words a lot more carefully, but still, I don't think they were trying to pander to us dedicated /m/fanboys during that whole charade. Regarding that, I think for the first game they were just trying to generate as much as buzz as possible due to it being an entirely unknown and brand new IP, while trying to whole-sale the game to the average western shooter demographic, who as mentioned by >>165922639 think of stuff like Madcats and Starcraft Goliaths when you bring up the word "Mech", rather than more humanoid-like mecha such as ACs or Mobile Suits. Say, if Gundam were a lot more successful in the West, they wouldn't really need to do that whole pussyfooting over giant robot semantics. I still think they should have just likened it to being a pilotable Transformer because that would probably make a lot more sense for those dudebros instead of them thinking they've created an entirely new brand of "mech".

>>165922639
>>biological creatures that you'd have to fight against in AC4/FA

Muv Luv with AC action onegai

>>165930420
Fuckin' character text limit

But yeah I think we only truly disagree on it being a shooter, which I can understand. The whole genre has been maintaining a shitty reputation that has only been recently surpassed by MOBAs in how samey-samey each iteration of sequel/series becomes and how cancerous their communities are, and I've pretty much stopped playing most of them years ago, at least not at the same intensity that I once did. Overwatch - which I bought due to the constant recommendation from a group of friends and now kind of regret, and Titanfall 2 - are the only shooters of 2016 that I bothered with.

I personally don't really care what form a game with mech(a) takes, as long as it has a pilotable giant robot that can stomp or shoot at stuff I'm cool with it. A symptom of a lack of AC6, surely. In TiFA 2's case it also helps that I greatly enjoy its movement system to get around from Point A to Point B. Slidehopping and wallrunning is the shit, man.

>>165926116

I remember that, Ranker. The last episode was the most blatant and least interesting exposition drop for this season. I still liked Hashmal and how IBO MAs and MS came to be though, and I would greatly enjoy spinoff material about the Calamity War.

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>>165935076
>Hashmal and how IBO MAs and MS came to be though

Yeah, I liked too, my bigger question is that are mobil armor invention or humanity or they came from another place, the way they phrase it, at in the translation, it appears they appear from nowhere; also at first Hashmal made me think on the scavengers of V


>spinoff material about the Calamity War.

I think there is manga, no idea if someone translate it after the first chapters.

>>165897951
shit, I need to upload the other flash videos

>>165897262
>Playing AC4
>Having difficulties

More grenades, more machine guns, higher energy recovery, lower vertical booster drain.

Congratulations you have solved any problems you were having

>>165897262
There's no "upgrading" in AC4. All the starting parts are good, it just depends on how you combine them and specialize. Even weapons aren't true "upgrades", higher damage weapons always come with downsides that might make them not worth using on a certain build.

ACs are more than the sum of the parts. Think of it more like "are all my parts complementing each other effectively?" To make your AC stronger, tweak and combine parts that work well together.

>>165907138
I played a bit of Titanfall 1, but not 2 yet. It's still the same problem though. Titanfall is an AMAZING game- but it is not a mech game. It is a first person shooter first and foremost and the mech elements are only there to provide a spin on the killstreak perks.

I think the Devs are right in saying it's not a "mech" game.

>>165941028

>I think the Devs are right in saying it's not a "mech" game.
In the case of that context, I completely understand what they were going for. They didn't want to give off the false assumption that the robots were the focus.

Seeing it that way, I'm willing to give them much more slack. though I'm not a fan of origin, so I'll pass it up for now.

>>165941508
>
In the case of that context, I completely understand what they were going for. They didn't want to give off the false assumption that the robots were the focus.

Exactly.

My problem was entirely with fans saying that Titanfall is what a mech game -should- be, or that it's the "best" mech game.
>It's unaware of what makes mech games good
>It sells Titanfall short by saying it's not a good FPS, but just a "good" mech game
>it convinces developers that the only possible successful mech game has to be an FPS first, and that people don't actually like mechs as the forefront of the game.

>>165942105
>mech game -should- be

People like that belive that thye know what "X" should be on everthing.

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>>165924823
Shin Godzilla is a God incarnate so I doubt NEXTs could put up much of a fight, plus the Kojima would probably super evolve him even quicker.

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/vg/ is crazy right now, keep a eye on the thread.

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>>165935076
>>165907138
>>165941028
>>165942105
yo I never played the first Titanfall because no fucking single player campaign and it just didn't look interesting at all at the time, not to mention the fact that it had paid DLC maps, a surefire great idea for a "literally who?" IP with a barely stable population at the time

also the graphics looked like fucking ass, not gonna lie, the environments and setpieces are cool but wasn't anyone else turned off by the supposedly next gen graphics? i mean i'm not a graphicswhore but it just didn't look too good to me

but having played the second one it's a legitimate mech game fused with a shooter, down to how the titans feel and each of their abilities and weapons. That campaign is so much like a mech anime it hurts. of course the mechanics behind the titans aren't as intricate as in AC, don't write the titans off just yet, they feel like a slower tacticool version of VOTOMS ATs which is damn god tier.

>Saturday afternoon VD
Is this it? A place where I can actually play an AC games multilayer?

>>165941508
origin fucking sucks balls dude, but it's not as bad as it was before speaking as someone who used to play a lot of BF3

also their refund policy is actually better than steam, it's how i "sampled" BF1 :^)

i've been hoping for the day that EA backs down and goes back to steam since the day the abortion known as origin was announced but as long as they have DICE and bioware in their hands those stubborn idiots will never go back

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Is Armored Core 1 worth playing? I'm playing through the Ace Combat series and was going to play the Armored Core series afterwards. Also, there's so many entries, which ones are worth playing besides 2, 3, and 4? I can also get a free copy of For Answer from my friend who never plays it if that's worth it too.

>>165962020
AFAIK last time we did that was ages ago.

>>165962020
Ask around on Saturday and something might happen. Don't get your hopes up.
>>165967354
Totally. Shows its age, but its still fine. Probably wouldn't play it before the rest of the series, though. Maybe after second and third gen but before fourth and fifth.
>Also, there's so many entries, which ones are worth playing besides 2, 3, and 4?
All of them. Except maybe Ninebreaker. There are PSP remakes, but either play the PS2 versions or the PSP versions, don't force yourself to play the originals and the remakes.

>>165969129
So Phantasm, Master of Arena, Another Age, Silent Line, Nexus, Formula Front, and Last Raven are all worth playing? How long are the games on average, because this is going to take up a lot of time.

>>165962020
There is a Free Battle right now. Come join.