/twg/ - Total War General

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Ancient Empires, yes, indeed

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>>165451590
>September 2017

If our daimyo is to become shotgun

>>165451590
>december 2019

I'm fucking done

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Does Rome2 and Attila run properly in Windows 10?

I've heard some good things and bad things about it.

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>>165451590
>spend all your time jerking off to your autistic 20 variation of the same unit
>never finish the actual important parts, like fucking campaign functionality
Every fucking time, modders are retarded.

>>165451808
That's a huge gobbo.

>>165451751
To my knowledge, it runs fine if you pay no mind to Microsoft having dirt on you.

>>165451590
JULY 2020?! Is this a joke??

The fucking white dwarf isn't fucking coming at all.
He's already fucking been for everyone who could possibly give a shit.
Holy fuck I am actually upset that they pretend that people care.

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>>165451867
>it runs fine if you pay no mind to Microsoft having dirt on you.
W-what do you mean?

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Reminder history shitters.

>>165451948
Just general windows 10 criticism obviously. Not that poster by the way.

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ROMANS OUT

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>>165451590

>Sep 2017

cunt

>>165451948
Cortana spies on you, sending info back to Microsoft.
She's also like the modern BonziBuddy, but with less viruses.

>>165452025
Wrong image m8, that is a discussion between two historical titles. Better delete that post quickly.

>>165451929
nahhh not everyone is autistic enough to have got a code, I'm looking forward to it, it's a nice giveaway

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>>165451590

>It is now January

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>>165452146

>>165451948
>he doesn't know
A-Anon..

>>165452175
I fucking hate stunties and I was bored enough to try a four hour code from here and even I got the fucking worthless cunt.

>>165452101
>>165451948

Use Spybot Anti-Beacon.

Also, watch this video;
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kGMCfb2xw

Yes, it has a super cringeworthy intro, and the guy is a loudmouth, but he knows his shit.

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wot da zog

>>165452326
By Sigmar, no!

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>>165452251
I just wanna know if Rome2 and attila runs properly on window 10.

I'm spooked af cuz I've read some people complaining that rome2 runs slower on windows 10.

>>165452204
There you go. That image looks to be correctly on your topic. Good job. Might pay to look at the thumbnails a little more closely when posting images.

Also I see a numerical lead for historical titles over fantasy titles there.

>>165452287
Do this and Microsoft won't know about all the dirty pictures of Karl Franz you have saved onto your hard drive.

I mean, everyone's got dirty pictures of Karl Franz...right?

Feels like every single Dwarven army I have to fight has RoR in them, they're everywhere. This is going to suck.

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do the historical titles still do custom pre battle speeches based on your generals character traits like in Rome 1? Warhamz is my first TW in a while, I get why they didn't really include them in that, but I'll be disappointed if they aren't in others, they were one of the best bits

>>165452406
Sub comment thumbs up are more worth than normal comment thumbs up my friend.

>>165452287
If you care enough to offer excuses for cringey openings, just timecode skip past them with your link m8.

>>165452506
Everyone gets them more or less equally with the AI at the helm. Because they're so easy to recruit, the AI just slaps them into another army the turn after you wipe them out.

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>>165451590
More like Never Empires

>>165452510
Speeches are pretty much forgotten about since Rome 2. If you sit the camera by your general, you can hear a speech. But they're nothing compared to Rome 1, Medi2, and Shogun 2.

>>165452510
>Chaos Marauders

Now that I thought about it, I do wonder if CA will release any stuff after they released all the planned DLC and expansions.

I'd see a Kislev DLC for example, or stuff that would enrich existing factions (like adding Norscan Mercs to Empire Armies via Marienburg Port).

>>165452510
Shogun 2 has some anti-faction banter speeches but nothing based on traits I don't think.

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Why does Attila's historical setting get so much hate?

Maybe because Attila was my first TW, but I think it's an interesting time period and I like it's apocalyptic theme.

Praise Tengri.

>>165452842

It doesnt have Spartans

>>165452842
It's a cool time where cool things happened but the forces involved weren't as distinct.

Persians and Romans with similar forces who have been fighting on and off for ages.
Romans with less eastern units being attacked by fairly similar germanic pagans.
Horsefuckers who fight some barbarians and some romans.
The end.

99% of all migrator games is just a boring trek through roman land engaging a few roman armies and then fighting romans and roman successors who have the same armies anyway.

Essentially the bigger the main players are at game start, the more boring the setting is to play.

I really fucking love Attila's setting but Rome's setting is still far superior.

>>165452842
Probably since most people are not taught about the great migration and they do not care to learn about it.

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>>165452842

Just wait till one day someone makes a Rome HBO/Vikings esque show about late antiquity

>>165452842
>much less culture groups
>much less variety
>much less factions
>muh fertility doomsday system
to name a few reasons, but they're more than enough to warrant the shit the game gets, and it's all because of the garbage setting.

>>165453436
no

>>165452842
>british barbarians
>german barbarians
>slavic barbarians
>sand people
>slightly different sand people
>huns
>two roman empires that are almost immediately exterminated and replaced by yet more barbarians

I love it so much but there really aren't that many distinct cultures.

>>165452842
because people have shit taste, its a cool time period, and because there is no pleb tv show about it

>>165453445
>much less variety
compared to what? with all the DLC Attila has more variety than most other tw titles

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i just buy the game ant tips for the new player ?

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>>165453112
>Persians and Romans with similar forces who have been fighting on and off for ages.
I think that's historical accuracy? Sassanids were constantly fighting with ERE until it' end like u said.

>Romans with less eastern units being attacked by fairly similar germanic pagans.
Yeah, Attila's units are really dark and kinda boring. It would've been better if they were more colorful like Rome 2.

>Horsefuckers who fight some barbarians and some romans.
Don't forget about OP white huns, Anon.

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>>165454072
umm why is it all red?

>>165454072
Sweet download speed, im sitting on 2MB/s ;_;
It costs me 10$ tho

>>165454072
Don't trust the knife ears

>>165454109
Yes it's accurate. I cited the problem and the historical precedence for it. Granted Sassanid and ERE rosters do manage to be different enough in the end, but it still hurts the setting from a gameplay perspective.

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>>165454132
steam skins:deadpool its.. well not good as i like but fully work

Are the lord packs in warhammer worth it? The only DLC i have is wood elves.

>>165454556
King and Warlord is THE best dlc, so yes.

>>165454305
Better than paying $60 for 400KB/s.

>>165454665
Jesus Almighty, Australia?

>>165454305
rly and i think im in mid speed on night 30mb/s max i pay for 100mb/s ...

>>165454834
You know it cunt.

>>165452842
Most people are genuine plebs. They probably don't even realise they have shit taste, thats how deluded they are.

Only true patricians can appreciate Attila, while plebs whine and moan about how Northern Europe has clouds and isn't sunny all the time.

Wasn't there new Attila DLC coming? Or is Attila over?

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>>165451590
What the hell happened? They were advertising november 2016 first and now suddenly it's going to be at least a year late

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So were the White Huns added to counteract ERE getting steamrolled by the Sassanids every game? Or helping an ERE player from getting swarmed by 6 stacks of sassies and friends?

I'm asking because I have an old pre-white hun ERE save and don't know if it'd be better off just starting over.

If you have two lords one specced red and the other yellow and you use them together in battles, will all units receive the red buff?

>>165455005

>In related news, we’ve recently been looking at ways in which we might get back to historical content before we release the next major historical Total War, in particular thinking about additional content or standalones for some of our more recent historical titles. Nothing decided yet though.

>>165454615
Just read through it and it sounds interesting. what do you think makes it so good? can the regiments of renown only be used to the lords in the dlc?

>>165455246
No, it's just the units from the lords army
It's the same if you're fighting with a garrison

>>165455101
I've played both the white huns and the Sassanids, and the white huns are definitely made to prevent Sassanids becoming to op.

But imo the white huns themselves became so OP. They're pretty much huns with better units, and more money. Which is awkward because the white huns got rekt by the Sassanids multiple times IRL

None of my Attila 2016 saves will load, did they break something or have my saves all fucked themselves?
Anything I can do to solve the issue, or do I just gotta start a new campaign?

>>165454556
the skarsnik/belegar one definitely is

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Hows your campaign going anon? Post screenshots.

>>165452593
>If you care enough to offer excuses for cringey openings, just timecode skip past them with your link m8.

Someone would comment on it anyway.

And sometimes it's good to endure something if the payoff is good, which it is in this case.

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>>165455549
About face off with Orion and Durthu in Reikland.

>>165454541

That looks like a pyjamas or bedsheet for kids.

>>165455279
>what do you think makes it so good?
Different campaign dynamics and useful new units. Belegar's campaign plays nothing like the rest of the game, and Skarsnik's campaign is actually enjoyable unlike Grimgor's. Rangers alone add a lot to the Dorf roster, and their Reskins of Renown give you some neat options.

>can the regiments of renown only be used to the lords in the dlc?
Pretty sure any faction can recruit them.

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>>165455264
What new stuffs do you want, Anons?

I personally hope for minor nomadic factions like Magyars, or campaign about rise of durkas.

All the average TWW player seems to care about is units "more units more units more units gotta have another faction" but what about siege escalation? villages or atleast some new siege layouts. Attila had ~45 siege layouts, TWW has 3.

>>165456298
>Attila had ~45 siege layouts, TWW has 3.
for real? wtf?

>>165456271
I want them to make a WRE successors dlc, with updated rosters for Gaul, Hispania, Britain and Africa

>>165456271
Magyars should be removed from existence.
t. Austrian and the entire Balkans.

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>>165456271
An Imjin War scenario for Shogun 2.
476 A.D. start for Attila could also be cool.

>>165456471
i think he's right, i remember we counted all the attila siege layouts here on /twg/ and it was pretty crazy

>>165456665
yeah but tww only has 3 layouts?

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>>165456569
Was asking for Attila DLC, but still,

TURTLE POWER

>>165456569
There's a mod for that.

>>165456895
Why the fuck does it have spikes on it?

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>>165457065
>2017
>caring about mods
I bet you're also wating for 1212 or AE to release.

>>165457092
To deter boarding parties.

>>165457151
Don't be silly, I lost interest for both those back in November.

>>165456271
Rise of Islam will never happen because you're not allowed to depict the prophet.

>>165456271
I would love an expansion for AoC, but the no dlc for dlc policy means that won't happen, rise of islam would be cool too but that can't be done because muslims would flip out

so, maybe some new horde factions?

>>165456237
Im playing grimgor now and it hasn't been very exciting

>>165457092
Krakens are no joke

>>165456271
>>165457381
>>165457398
what if they made a rise of islam dlc after set the death of muhammad? then he wouldn't even be in it

>>165455264
Sauce on this?

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>>165456237
What makes Belegars campaign so different other than it being a handicapped Dwarven campaign? I mean both him and Skarsnik offer a challenge, but Belegar himself plays very much like a regular Dwarf.

Snarsnik atleast forces you to use different units which actually makes it alot of fun.

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>>165457381
>>165457398
The campaign could start after the death of muhammad. After all, Arabian peninsula was united right before his death.

Also I don't think muslims wouldn't flip out that much, cuz muslims are normies who doesn't know about these games. You can conquer Mecca and convert the city in Civ 5, and there weren't any flip pouts about this.

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I didn't even have a non aggression pact with Belegar. Get fucked elves.

>>165458012
Well the +50% upkeep means you can't really field many strong units, unless you're AI

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That's it!! I SAVED EUROPE!!

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>>165458646
>Germanic
>Saving
>Europe

Lads, imagine Warhammer with:

The immersion of Rome 1
The campaign depth of Attila
The visual unit upgrades of Medieval 2

It would be honestly GOTYAY.

>>165458646
SLET

Any tips for playing as Sassykids?

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>>165455549
Removing dirty plebs from rightful Italian clay
Charlie is coming soon.

>>165459301
It would probably be one of the worst rated TW's of all time
>too hard 0/10 :^)
>le dlc too expensive, gibbe fore free XDDD
>campaign no fun, too much mechanics :(
>warhammer for babbies, only hirstory gud!!1oneeleven
>haven't put much time in the game, was of time anyway (1.000 hours played)

Casuals kill gaming

>>165456271
More black factions.

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hello

i am buy warhammers, but not see like other game

thread game wrong??

am cat knight but no towns

>>165458646
What did the Danes ever do to you?

>>165459301
Just get cities larger with more defenses, get settlement fights to burn shit down, larger battle maps for multi-stack fights, special/rare unit army caps, larger campaign map to fit more settlements/factions, change the way gear is handled by characters and units (menus to switch my chaos warriors to halberds vs Bretonnia or GW against dwarfs rather than re-recruit).

I could care less about food/squalor or other building slot taxes, not what Warhammer is about. Make some diplomacy changes (VC trickery, Orc intimidation, Empire politics).

>>165457986

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/189143/what-the-total-war-teams-are-working-on-updated-16th-december-2016

>>165460143
Thanks senpai

>>165460101
Raped and stole from my ancestors.

>>165460016
MoC voice acting > TWW voice acting

I just can't wrap my head around what the point of the Ranger is for the Dwarfs. The unit has pretty much the exact same stats as a Quarreler but to get the most out of them you have to use a Runelord for their red line.

A regular Dwarf Lord though can boost both Quarrelers and Thunderers with the same skill so this is always the better choice, Rangers are straight up useless in a direct comparison.

>>165460392
They're fast and stealthy with vanguard deploy, you don't use them in the same way that you use quarrelers

>>165460392
vanguard,stalk for some sneaky ambushes

>>165460392
>>165460556
This

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Bremen??! So close! I have my new target. If I could take Bremen I would definitely enrich the Swedish Kingdom!

>>165460962

fuck off with this ugly autistic kraut shit

>>165460962
REEEEEE

return rightful Danish clay you filthy Swede

>>165455446
Anyone?
If not then rip in protein all my campaigns

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>>165461183
pls no bullying in /twg/

>>165462065
fuck off elf lover

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What the fug is this supplyroute shit they shoved into DEI and armies cause unhappinnes now when garrisoned ? Also the economy makes no sense i keep dipping into the red and out at random.

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When?

>>165462065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M436HN0TcKM

>>165462641
Either along with Bretonnia release or a month after if the previous DLC releases are anything to go by.

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Why do fucking co-cop campaigns never work right?
Tried to do one in Attila with a friend over the past few days, but we gave up now because we always had desynchronization issues. We basically even live in the same area and have almost identical rigs, so it can't possibly be connectivity/performance issues.

Still the same problems from 5 fucking years ago when we tried a Shogun 2 campaign. Fuck CA.

>>165460306

It's not stealing when it's ours by right

what's the fucking point in deployables in fort battles if you can't see where your enemy spawns at

fucking retarded

>>165461183
leave

>>165463209
Works on my machine :^) Seriously, coop campaigns have their own troubles but desync I have never experienced in these games.

>>165463935
It often desyncs during end turn and the only solution is to reload and hope for the best. Also when we loaded battles sometimes the message about "Waiting for the other Player" wouldn't disappear and we could do nothing even though we had both loaded in.
Basically we had to restart every 2-3 turns.

Why does Warhammer feel so small, every game goes the same after about 50 turns i control half the map.

Anything lower than VH is an absolute steam roll, and then VH is shit because auto resolve will get you better victories thanks to stupid AI bonuses. This was fine before but CA are stupid and fucked up the battle difficulty option, now it does nothing.

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>>165451590
I'm an AE dev.

This guy isn't a team member, he isn't in the team, and he is wrong, we're steaming ahead now.

Optimistic estimate is Febuary, pessimistic is April.

So, as someone new to WH: What do the factions resemble? The Empire is obviously the HRE, Bretonnia is France, Vamp Counts are based on TransSylvania and Vlad Tepes. Anything else?

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>>165464549
Prove it, post campaign map

>>165464549
>Febuary, pessimistic is April
February 2020?

>>165464772
greenskins are hooligans with a bit of mongol for some of the goblins and native American for forest gobbos

Chaos warriors are Vikings/mongols/Moorcock

kangz are ancient Egypt

lizardmen are Aztec dinosaurs

high elves are world police

dark elves are pirates/slavers

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Königsberg ist unser! Wave the flags of Sweden!
As per usual, sorry for the screw up of the screenshot

What's a fun faction to resettle in Britain with in Attila? I don't have any of the dlcs.

>>165464772
Kislev is Poland+Russia

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>>165464820
Doesn't really prove much, the startpos's have been done for a year.

This is a total overhaul changing everything, we're working on the technologies, building effects, garrisons, all the little unnoticed shit that takes a lot of time to implement.

>>165464772
Orks are niggers

>>165465594
That UI is fucking hideous

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>>165458038
>converting mecca
/gsg/ related but relevant.

>>165465662
Wrong, Kangz are niggers.
Orcs are true English.

>>165452326

Wutz dis den

>>165464475
Please show me us a turn 50 game where you control half the map.

>>165464772
Lizardmen are mythical El Dorado. KANGZ are Egypt, I WONDER WHAT NORSCANS ARE????, there are equivalents of the turks/mongols near the chaos wastes but only really in lore, they're not properly represented as units.

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>>165464475
CA making a conservative map size for the first game probably makes sense given that there's still more than half the map to fill in

>>165465924
>I WONDER WHAT NORSCANS ARE????
Eskimos!

>>165465662
orcs are chavs

>>165465928
It's not that conservative. It's pretty reasonable.

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>>165465721
Every culture has a different style, this one represents numidia.

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Just finished reading the Black Company. Read it, it's great.
Fuck, my heart.

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>>165464475
This was on VH.

GS can be even quicker, only slow campaigns are the horde factions and VC. Even those can be beat before turn 120.

Most my campaigns i can get the short victory before Chaos arrives.

>>165466040
It's pretty small, square meter wise

>>165465825

>Egyptians are niggers
>Literally falling for the KANGZ meme

KANGZ are ancient Egyptians. Are ancient Egyptians niggers?

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>>165466426
Yes, what else would they be?

>>165466069
Seleucid?

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>play dwarves
>destroy all the damned greenskins and start retaking the realms north and west of Karaz-a-Karak
>recolonise one of the smaller settlements in the Black Mountains
>suddenly full army Archaon shows up and attacks my depleted army that colonised the settlements
>the High King duels Archaon in an epic duel while constantly arguing who has more fabulous headgear
>beat his ass with my withered army anyway
>mfw I ended the End Times in one turn
I'm still having a great laugh about this. I thought he was supposed to be a challenge.

>>165466358
>>165465843

Here btw.

>>165465928
I cant wait for it to be finished, at the moment it feels so cramped. And there is no reason to leave the badlands or empire etc because of regional occupation.

I have never even fought the green skins or Dwarfs, as Vamps or Empire i just give the winner of badland bowel money every turn and ignore them.

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If Border Princes were founded by Bretonnians then how come they are using Empire units?

>>165468719
They weren't though. Border Princes has exiles from the Empire, Bretonnia, Kislev, Tilea, Estalia. It even has some vampire lords I think.

Any tips for Fots?

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Would it be a bad move on CAs part to add units and lords to the original factions (Empire, Greenskins, etc) only available through purchasing the sequel? Think along the lines of old school RTS expansions.

>>165468978
Artillery.

>>165469098
Best faction to play?

>>165468979

I don't think so no, better than piecemeal DLC. If paying $60 got me 4 new factions + a campaign + more shit for the original factions that be pretty good deal imho famalama ding dongs.

>>165469158
satsuma
>gunsmith for sweet accuracy bonus
>right next to french and british trade node
>interesting naval game because of the islands, not just top or bottom coast forever

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>>165451590
I came here to say what >>165464549 said, that guy is just some TWC retard making a prediction, but he's not part of the team.

>>165468979
If they are going to add things to the old factions it should be something like more siege maps

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>Just sacked Altdorf (pic related)
>Franz shows up and I get into a slugout with him
>Win barely
>Tree Hitler is at war with the Empire too and shows up to fuck with him
>Instead fights me
>Lose because I just finished fighting two massive battles
Guess I'll restart.

Any suggestions for what lord to go for this time around? Khazarak seemed ok but that one winged dude looked cool.

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>>165469357
>>interesting naval game
>total war

>>165470042
>Tree Hitler is at war with the Empire too and shows up to fuck with him
>Instead fights me
You think Tree God will flippantly change his mind like that?
You were the target all along clearly.

>>165470062
empire, napy and fots have decent naval battles, rome 2 is fun too even if retarded

>>165470042
Currently playing as winged dude and he fuckin sucks. He's just like all the other casters. Weak as dick with shitty magic. I got a Gorebull asap and he was pretty much always in the same army just so we have one hero worth a damn.

Despite that I am doing very well. Just burned down all of Athel Loren and about to rek the last of Brettonia. I now have Morghur (You should go as Morghur if you restart, he's best beastman LL imo) and Khazrak with their own hordes and just clearing out the last of Empire and then its onto the massive fucking hordes of the Dwarfs.

>>165470042
Fucking Khazrak, why is he so weak. Gorebulls are tougher than him.

>>165466539
Ptolemies

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>>165470062
you best watch your mouth landlubber

>>165470296
Bretonnia* fuck.

But seriously get Morghur, he's insane. Every other unit of his routed in a fight against the elves and him alone beat 1 treekin unit, 2 archer cavalry, glade guard, and 2 archer units. Morghur bestghur

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>>165470062

>>165470297

Gorebulls are tougher than pretty much all of the melee Lords and heroes, anon.

Khazrak has very good stats when leveled and will trounce most other legendary Lords.

>>165466579
The original conclusion GW had for Archaon was that Grimgor suddenly shows up behind Archaon as he's about to off KF. Without warning, Grimgor kicks Archaon in the balls and fucks right the hell off.

Is Grimgor the Joseph Joestar of the Orcs?

>>165468979
is that official pic? Are they going to add this?

>>165470461
He's obviously best lord but Minotaurs are best unit.

>>165470474
>>165470367
>>165470281
SOME naval battles can be cool. But I'm pretty sure the post I was mocking was reffering to the strategic naval play the way the referenced the geography. And straight coast or archipelago, doesn't matter. AI's just as obnoxious.

>>165470703
It was the original conclusion they were forced to write.

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Anybody in /twg/ playing a NTW campaign atm?

Currently there's a massive ice storm going on here so I'm inside for 3 days and decided to have another play through.

Using Darthmod and playing the French on h/h

>>165470461
How good are Chaos Spawn? I think Morghur looks cool with the crab arm thing going on, but at the same time I love Minotaurs and the upkeep penalty with them isn't appealing.

>>165464549
>>165469832
Ok false prophet. I bet it's going to be 2019 January

>>165470461
Morghur is fine by himself, but the 40%+ upkeep on minotaurs is a deal breaker. Best to start Khazrak or Malagor and make Morghur your second horde.

>>165470810
Yeah this, I always have problems with Beastmen income since you can't sack before you raze. And chaos spawn seem way weaker than Minotaurs.

>>165470982
I'll bet a barrel of doubloons against a piece of pig shit you're wrong

>>165471141
RELEASED BY 2025!!!

>>165470810
Oh shit I didn't even realise he has a minotaur upkeep penalty. I spose that's because I didn't start off with him so had enough money to offset that.

I guess if you start with him it might be a lot harder then. My experience with Chaos Spawn is that the first 4 of them are the only ones fighting and no matter how many time you click to attack the other 8 just stand their with their dicks up their arse so Minos much better.

Try out winged brah then, the settlements are quite sparse in badlands but that can be a blessing cos they'll usually be undefended thus easy pickings. Good luck bro.

>>165470756

No but all signs point to the new lords being the Red Duke and Boris Toddbringer. VC and Empire are the only base factions without alternate starts.

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>>165462392
Maybe you should git gud and learn how stuff works.

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Post 'fuckin with the campaign AI' screenshots

>>165470797
>But I'm pretty sure the post I was mocking was reffering to the strategic naval play the way the referenced the geography. And straight coast or archipelago, doesn't matter. AI's just as obnoxious.
as satsuma you have the crossing from kyushu to honshu, the british trade node, the french trade node, the path between honshu and shikoku, and the path off the coast of shikoku to defend/attack. It is a pretty chaotic situation, and with how devastating naval bombardments can be to your economy, having a good navy is really important. raiding those trade nodes can get you a ton of income as well, and having a naval barrage on the battle map is really really fun anyway so having naval superiority is pretty much required, might as well play the faction with the most interesting strategic naval gameplay, and frankly the most to gain from it.

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>>165471596
It's fair. Blame the mod designers

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>>165471596
heres a "fucking with the battle ai" screenshot

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Post dead ikko ikki

>>165471945
H O W

O

W

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What will Toddbringers and the Red Dukes campaign effects and starting units be?

>>165465662
Warhammer Orcs are literally based on football hooligans.

>>165452842
It's too hard for casuals. That's literally it and why Warhammer was such a smash, because it's much easier.

>>165472580
Red Duke
>Blood Knights, Terrorgiest, Claw of Nagash
>Fire, Poison, Magical Attacks for every unit in the Dukes army.
>Pssh Nothing Personal Kid: Mousillon units can teleport behind enemy lines and one shot enemy units, heroes and lords.
>+1000% tax rate

Boris Toddbringer
>Spearmen, Spearmen, Pistoliers
>All Middenland units take a 50% HP penalty at the start of every battle.
>Can't recruit artillery or build Tier 4 settlements.

t. Creative Assembly

>>165472724
>Attila
>too hard

The only thing """"""hard"""""" about Attila was having to baby sit settlements to make sure the myriad of pointless busy work shit like sanitation and food were in check. Beyond that no, all TW games are baby tier easy bullshit. Don't kid yourself.

>>165471636
Choshu is the thinking man's choice.

They were my first game, because of AI I spent 90% of my military efforts against members of my faction. I reached large enough size for FOTS-Realm Divide Equivalent having taken like three or four provinces from the opposing faction.

>>165472724
>It's too hard for casuals
How? City management is literally the only problem the game have and you can literally beat VH game by spamming one unit and auto-resolve.

>>165472929
>myriad of pointless busy work shit like sanitation and food
Such complexity

>>165472929
Of the newer titles, guess which one has the least "Legendary" achievements completed by players? And come on, Warhammer is spectacularly piss easy, battles that last 3 minutes mang.

>>165472580
Great Cannon
Greatswords
Empire Knights

Blood Knights
Black knights
Zombies

Fucked if I could try and guess their bonuses.

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>165472554
hattori bandits are hidden in any terrain as long as they are walking, and can fire whilst hidden, which means you can bully the ai into thinking that there is nobody there as you eviscerate their units

>>165472580
red duke
starting units: blood knights, black knights barding, grail reliquary mortis engine unique unit thing
campaign effects: probably some huge charge bonus and movespeed, infinite raise dead zombies from all the dead peasants

boris toddbringer
stating units:pistoliers, halbadiers, an ulric unit
campaign effects: bonus to corruption removal, -50 percent campaign line of sight

>>165471945
Is that mega Ikko-ikki? It seems like the AI is not the only one who is going to get fucked with.

>>165472987
Friendly Fire was also turned up to 11 in the game friendo.

>>165473618
yes, they fucking blob up every campaign i play

I don't exactly frequent /twg/ but after watching Rome again, I'm itching to play some Rome 2. What's the best overhaul mod? I don't much care for Radious but then again from what I've seen, no one else here does either.

>>165474036

Get the newest version of Divide et Impera from TWCenter. New version isn't on Steam workshop yet.

It's a totally different game, btw. take it slower.

>Playing Attila as Langobards
>See I have good relations with rest of the German factions
>Go on rampage destroying other Germans and barbarians, forming a big blob of mega-Germany
>Western Romans like it so much that they give me an NAP and trade pact
>My destruction of the barbarian hordes protected their borders in Gaul, though they're facing treachery in the east still
So much fun, it's a shame though that my public order is hellish in the southern realms near rome, which is also where the Huns are now invading, likely to buttfuck me.

>>165474036
Wait for Ancient Empires. It's only 8 months to go.

>>165473489
>an ulric unit

We're talking about things that either exist or will exist m8.

>>165464348
It's almost always related to mods. Just play vanilla and i'm almost certain you'll stop desyncing.

>>165473456
Aren't hidden units revealed if they get too close; that range is far higher than an archers firing range.

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>>165474236

>>165474559
No anime!

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>>165470703
It was End Times so let's not talk about it. Let's not talk about how that was an enormous, steaming, revolting mound of horseshit.

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>>165474613

>>165474669
I apologize, sir. Just thought I'd bring up how silly that is over how much of a pushover Archaon is in-game.

>>165474669
No, the Grimgor kicking Archaon
and laughing as he runs off was from Storm of Chaos, which was "player-driven" and GW considered it a failure because the wanted Chaos to win, but the players kept saying "No, Chaos loses, fuck off, GW".

End Times had Grimgor headbutt Archaon
, but then he gets his head cut off.

>>165474165
Take it slower in what way?

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>>165472174
I keep forgetting you can slap vanilla S2 units against FOTS.
I remember the first time I barely managed to survive against a swarm of samurai freespawn.
And I also remember the first time I made a custom battle like this against them.

>>165474669
It was Storm of Chaos actually.

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>>165474613

>>165474875
As in the opposite of going fast.

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>>165472174
I prefer Saxon carpets.

>>165474875

every way. It's designed to be slower paced, longer build times, techs, culture conversions. Can't just make an army every few turns and blob like crazy due to how income, population and upkeep works.

If you do play it, give it a few attempts if you fail. Took me a few games to get used to it but it's much better than vanilla.

I wouldn't recommend rome to start, btw. They start at war with an OP as fuck faction in the south and an annoying one in the north while having no immediate counters to either of their units.

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FUCKING CA RELEASE SOMETHING ALREADY

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>>165474874
>>165474884
Oh yes I know the difference but, but hey we can still shit talk End Times no?

>>165475260
Sure, because I hate that End Times ignored my boy Skarsnik.

>>165471380
Where is this from?

>1070
>i7 4770k
>still having framerate issues on Warhammer and Attila
am i fucking missing something?

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>>165472580
>>165472725
>>165473489
>>165473181
Would it make sense to use Middenland in order to add Empire archers into the game?
Middenland might not specialize in the but I think it'd be nice if we could finally have them in the game.

>>165475727
dont play with dx12 it butchers framerate on nvidia cards

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>>165475260
It was an ugly mess but my character preferences got treated pretty well.

>>165475739
I think it's fine without them.
With Crossbows already having perfect arcing ability, and only one more faction in the game ever to get crossbows instead of bows, s'cool.

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I'm guessing these guys are from Grim and Grave? I don't remember them from before I bought it. How are they?

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these poor idiots razed their settlement to go horde mode, but in Europa Perdita hordes can't embark and they can only go through my territory.

>>165475807
i'm not, i'm using W7 still

So Ancient Empires is the Rome conversion for Attila? Does it have invincible legionaries?

Has anyone played the DeI 1.2 beta? Its okay, but the supply lines and shit are annoying.

>>165475956
they were better before the summoned units nerf. that grave guard unit was pretty cool.

>>165475980
then I have no idea, is it in battles or campaign map you get fps drops?

>>165476102
wait strigoi have the ghoul summon don't they, either way, being able to summon a unit better than skeletons was a huge help. could just smash into the enemy line and then summon a unit to instantly hammer the anvil

>>165476185
battles

>>165452402
both run perfectly fine for me on windows 10

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Do these exist

>>165451517
>AE uses the disgusting R2 human models
I know why they did it, but its still a shame

>>165475968
thats brutal
>>165476102
Herman Ghorst gets grave guard, ghoul kings get crypt ghouls and crypt horrors

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>>165476481
>It's the same card with a helmet slapped on

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>>165466513
there is something with this that makes my insides flare up and makes me want to kill these fucking apes off

>>165476481
no Halberdiers are mainly cloth'd so you know which state you fight for in the age of fog of war
mainly because gun smoke is everywhere
t. 30 years war historian
>>165476497
I thought those were Atilla

>>165470982
believe whatever you want to believe man :^)

You can look at the context and realize that the guy is talking out of his ass.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?746599-Has-the-full-mod-been-released-yet&p=15220285&viewfull=1#post15220285

>>165476481
>literally the same unit card with a helmet on it

>>165475558
some promotional trailer for rome 2

>>165475956
They're pretty great. Solid combat characters with a condensed magic tree that contains basically all of the useful vamp/death magic with none of the chaff, on top of poison attacks and a fantastic mount.

>>165476827
Who are you quoting?

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>drops out of tree
>does a unnecessarily complicated flip
>teleports behind u
>psssh, nothin personnel kid


get it..? cause he's like a goat guy

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>>165471319
>all signs point to the new lords being the Red Duke and Boris Toddbringer

Well Boris already has his Midden brethren in multiplayer.

If they do add Middenheim in there, then hoping they'll give them Middenheim specific units.

And Middenheim has some unique units to them.

>>165472580
Mousillon:
>Blood Knights, Black Knights, Vargheists, Terrorgheist
>Blood Knights and Black Knights gain a factionwide reduction in upkeep and costs
>Access to unique building chains
>Building Slots similar to those of Wood Elves, allows for great variety
>+5 to Vampiric Corruption on owned and neighborhood provinces

Middenheim
>Knights of The White Wolf, Carroburg Greatswords, Wolf Kin (Middenheim Flagellants) Hunting Hounds
>Access to unique building chains
>Cannot recruit gunpowder units on Middenland territories
>Have access to Priests of Ulric who are more combat-focused than Warrior Priests of Sigmar
>Higher Leadership and Attack bonuses

>>165477039
her head looks fuckin massive

>>165476610
>>165476710
Better than those ugly custom ones
They break my immersion

>>165477039
Did you really think that post was good enough to bother reposting when you forgot your image the first time?

>>165476550
Helman can sometimes summon a Wight King instead of Grave Guards.

>>165472580

Boris
>Units
- Wolf-kin (Ulrican Flagellants)
- Knights of the White Wolf
- Great Cannon
- Warrior Priest of Ulric (campaign map)
>Campaign Effects
- 50% reduction of upkeep on Ulrican units
- Some kind of stat bonuses when fighting Beastmen and Chaos

Red Duke
>Units
- Blood Dragons
- Grave Guard w/ Great Weapons
- Mortis Engine
- Wight King (campaign map)
>Campaign Effects
- 50% reduction of upkeep on Blood Dragons
- Units in his army can not crumble

>>165476692
>I thought those were Atilla
nah, notice how his face is really wide and ogrish, rome2 models look like shrek, the ones in Attila are more slim and human-like

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>>165475067
>started with Kartli, some caucasian mountain niggers near the black sea
>have some tense campaign moments trying to gain armenia's friendship so they won't rape my ass while I capture my province
>end up attacking Colchis and having one of those battles where the AI actually seems competent
>next turn they try to retake
>actually manage to lose the battle even though I had the advantage
>Alt-F4 out of rage and regret it immediatly

Now I feel like I should restart and take responsability for fucking up but screw that, it's Colchis, nobody likes them.

But yeah, DeI 1.2 is pretty fun so far, even though it's obviously buggy sometimes. The AI seems better overall both in campaign and in battles. It's a lot smarter when it comes to diplomacy but it's still possible to get alliances and good deals.

Be careful though, most of that balance goes to shit if you play in harder difficulties, the devs recommend H/N, and it's pretty good that way.

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>>165477515
>ogrish
>black person
FUCKING HELL, we had the Libel lawsuit about David Irving and the Holocaust, why have they not been sued

>>165477128


i thought it was the helmet but her body is tiny

>>165477131


who are you quoting?

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>>165471763
>Germans thinking they can do war

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>>165477464
>- Units in his army can not crumble

I wanted a reaction image to properly respond to that but I couldn't find one.
Instead I'll demonstrate my sentiment towards Ulric.

can someone post Attila roll chart?

I wanna play as slavs

>>165477712
white models look no better in rome2, everyone is really-wide in it, like they swallowed a wardrobe

>>165477909
why not just play as slavs then

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>>165477870
Away with you. I removed you once, I would do it again

>>165477953
i am too indecisive

3 slavs is a hard choice

>>165477909
You're BEST ROMANS

>>165476481


where?

as a unit in the tabletop?

>>165478060
just roll without the chart you dense motherfucker

01-33 slavs 1
34-66 slavs 2
67-99 slavs 3

>>165477862
Wrong post buddy.

>>165478060
sclavenians

>>165478287


who are you quoting?

>>165478119
Yeah

>>165478278

do i use my original post's number, the 2nd one, your one is this one to determine though

see, its not so easy

>>165477954
>Hauptmann

Well no wonder they lost-- they were German Frenchmen.

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the ostrogoth romaboos are here lads

>>165477464
>Units in his army can not crumble

Too OP

>>165478434


Nope.

I don't think Ive seen a single mod with "improved" vanilla units that actually exist tabletop.

>>165478496
Hauptmann means Captain in German

>>165478436
I rolled for you. Go play Venedians.

>>165478425
>>>/faq/

>>165479031

thanks friend, i like the venedians and their farms

i tried some poison archers vs 1 falxman and 1 general earlier this week and wanted to give slavs a go after seeing the single archer unit demolish the other 2 units. pretty fun i think.

>>165478781
Impossible. Germans can't into war.

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>>165479140
>poison archers

>>165479291
Maybe they own boats dumbass.

>>165476656
Stop being so jelly white boi

>>165479434
He's obviously Asian.
The only racist white people that exist are southern rednecks who cannot use a computer.

>>165479352
Nah, Germans would use something far less original, like "kapitan."

>>165479549
Maybe they're just copying the dutch.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>165479549
Stop trolling ok? The french dudes are french and Hauptmann is a title.

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>>165477909

>>165479781
Yes yes we know

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>>165479815

>>165479815
fuck celts

>>165477047
>Cannot recruit gunpowder units on Middenland territories
What's this crap? Why give Middenland a negative trait while not giving Mousillon any?

>>165479789
>Stop trolling ok?

Ok. My favorite faction in that mod is Austria because of their knights in full armor with greatswords.

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>>165477464
>No crumble
That's fucking stupid

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>>165479852
The maze, Dolores

>>165479852
How you've given them enough attention to post it another ten times.

>>165479815
rollin

>>165479352
>>165479549

Hauptmann literally means "Main man" and it doesn't apply to navy ranks.

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>>165480058
I only noticed the Polish using hussars and not being useless. Regular pistol cavalry is absolutely useless in battle.
I am posting Sweden campaigns now

>>165480198
I was going off the direct translation to captain.
Main man is cute as heck though.

>>165480070
I don't get this meme. What does it mean?

>>165480406
Just ignore him. It's one autist pushing his stupid inside joke.

>>165479815
The germanic factions are such a pain in the ass to play. Their roster is very good, but it takes so much money to convert conquered roman territory.
Lukily I can play Vandals to just rape and kill everything.