/r6g/ Rainbow Six General

>>165420396
Not really. He's only relatively better and even then he's maxed out if the enemy team wants to run a spam build

>Run grenade spam build
>Take Thermite, Buck, Sledge, Fuze, Capitao
>Fuze the objective to waste ADS (if it's there), do damage to defenders, and destroy jammers / batteries
>Thermite objective
>Smoke it out with thermite to waste any remaining ADS or just fucking smoke it out
>More Fuze spam
>Throw frag grenades at any potential camping spot
>On secure or defuse Capitao can spicy arrow and smoke to prevent any roamers returning
>This doesn't even include the obvious benefits of Buck and Sledge doing their thing

If there isn't a Jager or you don't care for smoke you can also just take a Claymore as thermite for extra "FUCK YOU" utility

But the game is already fucking insane for spam if you want it to.

The more I die to people who I can't see on my screen the more I start to wonder if ubi even plays their own game.

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>>165421294
i put it in, you can tell because it's the only header thing i forgot to greentext.

>SECRET LAST INCIDENT ONLINE ONLY
fucking kill me

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>hibana dud pellets

Does IQ's scanner pick up on gadgets that are still in the process of being placed?

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>>165422078

>can't shop while matchmaking

>>165422312
I'm like 200 hours in and I still can't get over this. At least let me tinker with my loadouts.

>>165422312
>>165422681
It's the fucking worst. Ubisoft is so incompetent I don't even understand how.

>>165422006
It's called "situations" Ivan :)

I have never seen a laser tripwire trap kill anyone. Why is this character even in the game?

>>165423568

play on day maps

>>165423384
yeah whatever same thing

>>165423568
You haven't been play long have you?

>Equip Acog
>Suddenly mvp 4 times in a row

This thing is fucking disgusting

>>165423568
you think it's bad now, you should have seen this fishook

Why is pen so fucky in this game?
You can't penetrate a wooden chair on one map but you can penetrate a solid metal object on another.

>>165421059
real solution = split Jager's device between defenders as a generic gadget and give him a new utility

>>165424049
>why is x so y in this game

Answer is always: Ubisoft is incompetent.

>>165424049
the art and mapping teams don't get along

>>165424049
>that metal thing in the dining room on hereford

it looks like it should be bulletproof, yet isn't

>so many sale shitters sub-40 level

is this a plague at all ranks?

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Why is top floor favela a bomb location, it's absolutely impossible to defend unless the attackers are fuckin poptarts.

>8 sections of breachable wall from 3 angles, all of which lead outside, on top of one doorway, 2 windows, and extremely little cover with reliable escape only being possible SOMETIMES by breaking a hatch and giving up the objective with absolutely no way for people outside the objective to provide any support whatsoever
>using reinforcements to fully barricade top floor just means the bomb on the floor underneath is fucked instead, but that's also assuming you somehow managed to keep top floor safe from hibana, thermite, thatcher, fuze, anyone with frags, etc

>>165425127
Did you just finish that match with me?

>>165425127
See
>>165424590

>>165425127
favela is that map where they decided to just throw balance out the window

>>165425127
It's actually reasons like this why I think Ubisoft should allow objective voting in casual and, win or lose, you can't pick that objective again (whereas ranked you can repick an objective if you lose defending it)

>that's my finger

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q9T0v0kq5s


No way a man clicks that fast

>>165425996
Yeah I'm feeling like that's bullshit. I also find it funny that now that Serenity is using DMRs you can't find a single Buck, Twitch or Blackbeard using anything but them.

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Defenders are terrorists

>>165425996

He has to be using a macro holy shit

>>165420734
The Siege menu and art assets link should be added to the asset packs section in the pastebin guide

>>165425996

Bind to mouse wheel?

>>165423678
You're a genius.

No wait. You're a retard, whatever, same thing.

>>165425996
Here's an even better example
https://youtu.be/0q71u62vp_k?t=116

>>165425996
>video is named Glaz smoke tactics
>it's a single mediocre glaz kill followed by some 10/10 cav plays
>never uses Glaz again
For what purpose?

also
>that cav kill against Fuze
It's shit like this that is why I am happy to be playing on console tbqh

>>165426343
Ditto
Hopefully pastebin guy comes back soon, a few threads ago he said he was still away on holiday or something, back when people were suggesting some revamps to the guide

>>165423898
>laser removed
>fishhook back

???

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>>165425996
You guys are just le haters

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>>165425996
>>165426153
>>165426209
>>165426349
>can't click fast
get some damn dexterity you sloths

>someone throws an explosive
>entire area is coated in a thick dust-fog
>if its daytime it becomes hypernova bright for some people
My friends can see through this perfectly fine but on my screen I can't.

>>165425996
>>165426438
It's easy to click fast. It's a lot harder to click fast and still aim accurately.

>>165426534
No way Jose, that hook is way easier to spot than the laser, from either side even.

>>165426760
Do you have bloom on? What about your brightness and gamma? I find that I have a lot less problems seeing through bright areas compared to people here and my friends that play, 90% of the time.

>>165426852
This is true, but you have to keep in mind Serenity can almost completely compensate for the C8's recoil, so the CAMRS probably wouldn't be a problem, as shown.

>>165426685
Sure I can click that fast but as >>165426852 said clicking that fast and countering the recoil to keep your sight on what you're making disappear is two different things.

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>>165425996
If you can't click faster than glaz's firerate you've got more arthritis than thatcher in your twenties.

>>165427043
CAMRS with the muzzle brake isn't nearly as hard to control as you'd think.
Also, what kind of grip do you have on your mouse where clicking rapidly messes up your ability to move the mouse accurately? I personally don't have problems with that.

>>165427126
>clicking rapidly messes up your ability to move the mouse accurately

Where was that implied? My hand doesn't go crazy because I'm moving my finger.

>>165426852
This right here. Clicking that fast isn't that hard. What is hard is clicking that fast while aiming down the sights, getting a bead on an enemy, controlling recoil, and even the kicker of controlling actions on the keyboard with the off hand.

This combination of actions and muscle memory is shit that Tier 1 old school SC players had troubles with.

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>hit detection isn't going to get better no matter how much you wish it would

>>165427319
>comparing basic FPS inputs, aim, and recoil control simultaneously to SC shortcuts
In no way the same thing.
>>165427175
How does clicking quickly make controlling recoil harder then? I don't understand where that's coming from. Your sights blocking your target profile is only an issue on pistols because they can't equip optics, and on anything other than that visual recoil shouldn't hinder your ability to aim at a target once you learn where the center of your screen is.

>>165427574
>the game is never going to be perfectly balanced because Ubisoft entrusted this game to the B Team

The game is the best it's ever been and it took a year to get there - but we got Spaniards dropping in a fucking month and, well, what else can they do next midseason reinforcements except fuck everything up?

I mean when you have people agreeing the recent BB nerf landed TOO HARD maybe you should rethink how badly you are fucking up this game

>>165427670
>The game is the best it's ever been

Haha

>>165427784

This guy wants to go back to dust line

>>165427784
>Shields are somewhat usable again
>Tachanka is actually not 100% shit
>Claymores and Impact grenades were somehow not a problem on any level
>No massive roaming meta
>No immortal BB
>SMG's, Rifles and Shotguns actually somewhat proportional instead of autoshotty spam

What exactly are your grievances?

>>165427670
>I mean when you have people agreeing the recent BB nerf landed TOO HARD
Nah its fine

>>165427845
>>165427956
Balance wise sure. Bugs, hit registration, netcode and sound are completely fucked beyond belief and it all seems to have been made even worse in 5.3.

>>165427963
Vast majority of people felt the 150 HP shield was a good balance and BB was in a good place finally. I'm sure everyone would agree if it went from like 150 to 120 or even 100 it'd be fair.

More than halving it on that total is weird, considering how it started at 800 and now it's 60

>>165428059
>believing things get magically worse because you say so

The reality is bigger problems (game design and balance) are mostly being fixed, so now you are focusing more on the smaller issues. Hit Registration wasn't as big of a deal as getting blown up by nitros, murdered by auto shotties and having BB murder you with immunity from every window.

>>165428170
>Hit Registration wasn't as big of a deal as getting blown up by nitros

You don't really believe that do you?

>throw grenade at 45 degree angle at well
>it bounces back in my face
sasuga ubichan

>>165428317
At what point am I worried about sometimes 1-2 bullets not doing damage when I have 4 nitrocells on the defending team every match and a 2 speed semi automatic shotgun that can snipe people from half way across the map

The fact you are arguing with this shit suggests you weren't around for the Dust Line meta and are in fact fairly new

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>>165427574
>>165428170
>>165428317
>>165428059
Hit detection is honestly fine now. There have been hitches with certain characters having fucked hitboxes, like Valk, (which was patched with 5.2), but the majority of actual issues come from the shitty, low budget servers, which give everyone a higher-than-normal ping, exacerbating the problems that almost all multiplayer shooters are going to have just because they're online.
Peekers advantage exists in all shooters, but higher ping makes it worse, and the one-shot-headshot rule makes it seem even bigger of a problem since TTK is potentially instant.
Situations where you shoot someone and no shots register is not "hit registration" strictly. It's not like the hitboxes are so broken that they just stop existing at times, that's just ping and connection delay not matching up with your client. This is the only part that you could chock up to being partially bad netcode; if you're not moving according to the server because your refresh is fucking up, or your ping is insanely high, you should honstly get stuck in place or rubberbanded back to where the server thinks you are, but it mostly only seems to do that if you pass through geometry that the server thinks is still in place because that's a huge no-go. Letting you walk around and fruitlessly shoot people in the face is way more frustrating than just being stuck in place, or at least it should be.
TL:DR Servers are to blame, not all the false issues that /r6g/ and Reddit cry about every day.

>>165428829
You caught me. I've only been playing since tuesday.

>>165428059
Hitreg and shit like that were worse at the time of the game's release and during Skull Rain

>tfw I'm gonna be sick of this game before even getting TO ranked play

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>>165428829
>At what point am I worried about sometimes 1-2 bullets not doing damage
Now this is funny, because I literally just argued that hitreg isn't as much of a problem as everyone says it is, but this is still a retarded argument to make. The game has a one-shot headshot rule. One bullet can literally mean the difference in a victory in any 1v1 situation. That's just a stupid thing to say anon.

>>165428170
>>165427670
BB is in the best place he's ever been since his release. He actually rewards high-skill play instead of acting as a crutch for poor aim and/or reaction time.
He now only has a split second buffer over any enemy in a 1v1 if they both engage at the exact same time, which is more than enough to survive situations you normally wouldn't at high level play. If he has the element of surprise or moves in without holding hard angles for extended periods of time and giving away his direction of approach, even pro players won't be able to not aim for the head as a first response. He's still great if you play him differently than people did before, that's the mistake people are making. You can't just turtle angles with him without getting punished now, you have to play him more dynamically.
That being said, he should get his ads time tweaked to be normal when his shield's down. That shit just doesn't make sense currently.

>>165429718
>reliably landing a headshot
>against dust line era roamers

Literally not happening dude

can the guy who said A FUCKING LEAF please kill himself, ty

>>165430002
What does Dust Line have to do with anything he said? You've lost the plot.

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>>165428059
>>165428940
As a rule it's a positive trend, things are improving for sure. However these things do go up and down and IMO this last patch was a bit of a step backward on the """hit detection""" front. Maybe I've had a few off days or whatever, but I feel like I'm getting a LOT more blood sprays for no damage and similar issues.

Again, anecdotal, but a few people I've played with have mentioned it too.

Shit servers are for probably to blame.
To the city where the servers are hosted from my home I get ~20ms.
To the R6 servers I get ~75ms (in menu)
In game I am between 100-120.

>>165429718
Well >>165430204 beat me to it,
but as well as what he said, I honestly don't know what you're talking about. How does someone being a roamer magically make them headshot resistant? Can you enlighten me?
I've played since launch btw, yet I'm still confused by what you're trying to say

>>165430320
>Joostenposter
I'm completely fine with this
Don't think I haven't noticed you

>>165430438
First part was meant for >>165430002

>>165430320
5.3 absolutely made Siege wonkier. I've gotten so many headshots when my sights weren't even near their heads as well as shots not registering at all.

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>>165430438
he means that in dust line, 3 speeds were even more of a nightmare as the visual model was only ever a very vague suggestion of where the hitbox was at any given moment.

Anyway BB is in a great spot now. The 1-2 round buffer can be a real life saver.

>>165430559
tfw not crazy

>>165430438
>what makes them magically headshot resistant

The fact it's not a conventional gunfight. They still have to deal with hit reg issues too, but they are flying through the map coming at flanks and hip fire spamming before you can even bring your gun up to get a bead on them

The point is hit detection wasn't even really fucking discussed back then because people were complaining about

>Cops and Roamers meme
>Flank or C4 meme
>Frosts absurd shotgun
>OP Pulse and Roaming Valk Shot guns
>Nitrocell abuse
>the "when will tachanka ever get a buff" discussion
>the "why is blitz and monty so shit" discussions
>That Ubisoft employees programming the lighting system for inside <-> outside viewing has never been outside of his mothers basement before

Nobody gave a fuck about hit reg back then. It came up, but there were way bigger fish to fry. It was just another problem on a mountain of much bigger problems.

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>>165430856
>The point is hit detection wasn't even really fucking discussed back then

What the flying fuck are you smoking, son?

Hit detection has been the number one gripe with this game ever since release.

>>165430856
No one was talking about Dust Line balance until you brought it up.

>>165430984
It's been the most consistent gripe and present but never the largest. If you don't think we had months of constant BB shitposting you are dumb as a mule

>>165430320
Fluctuation in connection quality could have something to do with player count and server stress on Ubi's side of things. If you look at the trends of people complaining about hitreg and such, you could argue the frequency of the complaints lines up with approximate player count.
Ubi really need some better servers. Hopefully if the Division dies soon we get their shit because I can only imagine the servers meant to run an MMO are gonna be way better than ours.

>>165430653
>>165430856
I stopped playing for few months or so right after Dust line because all of my friends ditched it for other shit. I hopped back in solo right after Skull rain launched, so I didn't get a whole lot of hands on with Dust line early in its launch. Was it really that bad? I played all through Black Ice's season, and I personally never had any "hitreg got me killed" or "Totally should've killed him" moments throughout that whole 3 months. If I dodged the worst of it with Dust line I'd like to know, but when I came back with Skull Rain I still never had issues.
Even now, the only time I ever consistently have problems with that sort of thing is when I'm fighting Brazilians, or when I try to use Tachanka's new turret, because that thing is broken as fucking shit holy hell.

Does playing ranked in another datacenter affect your stats across the board? Since your stats carry over but your rank doesn't?

>>165431163
You dodged the worst of it during DL. Skullrain fixed some of it, and the midseason reinforcements right after pretty much fixed a good 80-90 percent of it.

The tldr is that since BB was unkillable and in every match, everyone just chose a roamer and tried to avoid getting peeked by the beard. Valk, Frost Pulse and sometimes Bandit were pretty much in every match at minimum. You just got blown up or shotgunned from a mile away

>>165431440
someone post the shining edit with black beard coming through the door at valk

>>165431440
I wish I had recording software up back then.
I had some hilarious Sniper-90 moments.

>>165431440
I knew BB was shit for the game back at 800 shield hp, but i guess I never really got to see his effects firsthand and see how he affected the meta.
Glad I missed it.
Was the netcode insanely worse than Black Ice or has it pretty progressively gotten better from season to season? Considering the group I play with rarely had problems even back then I'd appreciate more accounts on it, especially for the time I missed.

>>165432076
Honestly it's what I said above - there have been so much actual, real problems that affected the game substantially that hit reg was never a real issue for most people. Every /r6g/ we'd see a few webm's get posted of someone landing that headshot and blood splatter but they have full health, but it wasn't something that affected every single match that you played

Now that most of the real issues (read: balance) are resolved, the hit reg and netcode (ie: 3 speed peeking abuse) is the worst one the game has, so it's getting more and more attention now. It's went from being regularly mentioned to it's the worst problem the game has now.

The game is in the best place it has ever been balance wise - if they were to fix hit reg, net code and the blinding light the windows have / not being able to see inside from outside then all the problems the game has had since Day 1 will have been resolved.

They are unlikely to do it tho

was fun but calling it at 11 hours played, 0.36 win ratio, 0.46 K/D ratio. I'm done see ya guys.

>>165432607
Git gud

>>165424242
A better solution: Make Jäger's gadgets better but make him 2/2 or 1/3 speed so that he's no longer a roamer but rather a room defender. He should be like Bandit: You listen for a fuze and put down your device which is very reliable at frustrating the attack.

>>165432607
>paying for less than a hour of gameplay per buckaroo

>>165433000
what if instead of having X amount of intercepts, the magpies operated on a system where they become active and shoot down any projectiles in their area for 1.5 seconds, then they enter a 15 second cooldown phase. Each unit can become active twice.

>>165432385
Read
>>165428940
I honestly think ping on either side of things may be the culprit of many "broken hitreg" incidents in the game, though not all, of course. Making servers more stable or straight up upgrading them might fix a lot of the problems, but if they don't have the capacity to upgrade servers on a large scale like that, lag compensation would have to be severly reworked to mitigate the problems people have. Unfortunately, any way of tackling this will have problems, and worst case scenarios will always appear;
>favor the shooter
Now peekers advantage is crucial
>favor the server
Now shots won't feel like they're registering if you have a ping over 30 ms
>Favor the shootee
Now shots won't register if someone ducks behind cover on their screen before the server updates their position on yours.
No matter which way they try, high ping will make it feel broken. I've played with a lower ping most of my time with the game, so I can only assume this is why I have a better experience, but this also tells me they need better servers, or servers closer to more areas to lower ping.

As for the lighting, i can see the progress each time they claim to "fix" it, so I'm personally patient for the day where I barely notice any dynamic exposure anymore. That'd be great, but 5.2 actually did make a bigger difference than many seemed to notice. I'm hopeful for future changes.

>>165432607
It takes more than 11 hours to get used to the game. Most of it is just map knowledge.

git gud

>>165433000
He's still a must-pick even then. Anyone ant does a job that important with no subsitutes will practically force a pick. Splitting up his gadgets between point defenders like Rook, Echo, Smoke, And others would let defenders be more flexible with their picks. Jager gets a less important tool that complements his roaming style but doesn't give his team such a drastic advantage and now picking him is a tradeoff to someone else with more team utility.

>>165432607
Goodbye shitter, don't play my game ever again

>>165433102
I read your post and fully understand, my point is not that it has gotten worse but that it's the most glaring issue in the game because all the more pressing matters and more obvious matters have been addressed and fixed.

The real problem is "fixing" the issue would require a complete reworking of the games networking. As in, completely replace it with a more optimized system. The original programmers and people capable of making a Triple A tier netcode are long since off this project, and the skeleton crew in charge of producing DLC and headgear does not have the skill or capability to do this.

It's part of the reason we see them "fixing" lighting multiple times and, well, it's never fixed.

This may also tie into why we haven't gotten a new gameplay mode and the "Season Pass" promise of a new game mode resulted in just "No hud mode that can only be played in private matches" and Season 2 doesn't even promise one. Maybe they don't feel confident in their design abilities, or maybe changing the code to allow anything significantly different would be too troublesome for them. Who knows.

We got hats and skins for days so it shows where their skillset lies

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>tfw plane when you realize you'll be playing against glaz AND the Spanish sniper

>>165432918
>>165433339
mad

>>165433051
>valuing games in the amount of hours of your terrible life they while away

>>165433542
>Spanish sniper
Literally what

>>165433338
Really it comes down to adding someone who has Jager utility but does it in a different way. Bandit and Mute are pretty fucking close pre patch, and if Bandit didn't have the Bandit trick, Mute will still be the "better" pick much of the time

Maybe if he got a smaller ADS type super magnet or something which would attract any grenades to it (they would still go off) in a very small proximity (like windows) but it can also double as drone duty? Hang it from the roof, floor or on walls... Might be a good way of doing it.

Which would also be hilarious in a way because

>hang all magnets from roof
>fuze cluster charges the roof
>all the roof magnets grab the pucks
>Entire floor of room Fuze placed clusters on starts blowing the fuck up

>>165433648
Apparently there's lots of hints that one of the next operators will use a bolt-action rifle.

>>165433853
But we already have one sniper. I hope they have a thermal scope or something. So theres a difference between the two

>>165433097
Sounds pretty good although I think 1.5 seconds is a bit short. Maybe longer active time with a longer cooldown? You could have someone lob a smoke grenade through the window then fuze from above.

>>165433731
Mute can Mute trick tho

>>165434141

The bolt action rifle is really slow, so it's safe to assume that it'll be an instant down but will have limited ammo. Glaz will probably serve a niche hybrid role, since the recent patches made his DMR more handy and the gadget lends itself to that.

>>165434660
they better make it so that he's a pistol only or maybe a smg operator, with the rifle as a gadget

>>165434758
Nah they'd have a high pickrate if that were the case
>Powerful sniper
>Smg
I mean if they have the whole glaz thing with just a sniper and pistol that would be fine

>>165433179
You are right though. Most of my getting wrecked was on my lack of map knowledge

>>165434841
I just want it so that if he wants to use it, he'll actually need to spend like 3 to 2 second taking out the rifle and when the rifle is out make his running speed extremely slow so we won't have a leet sniper running around killing people with a one hit kill gun

>a fucking sniper as the next DLC character
>bolt action this time so he can't even pull double duty
>in a CQB game

So I guess we have to wait another fucking 3 months for a fun attacker?

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>>165435020
what if he's an defender ;)

>>165435445
BABES
IN
POSITION

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>>165435616
*Breaches behind you*

>>165435445
>Unzips Velcro
BACK THE FUCK OFF?

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>>165435757
"You think you can beat me?"

>>165435445

*teleports behind you*
nothin personnel
*hitscan knifes you*

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>>165435445
>>165435753
*Silent Steps Behind You*

>Nothing personal, Puta

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>>165435445
I'll just relax here and let Yokai do the rest.

So i want to put silencers on guys i'm roaming with now, right?

Jesus my friends are so shit, complaining about peaking and hackers when I got 8 and 1 and kill 3 peakers in one round. Just fucking be ready and check the angles like fuck. 5 matches in a row with 3 of them getting 2 or less kills.

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>>165436643

>>165436694
>peaking

STOP

FUCK YOU

IT'S PEEK

P E E K

>>165437178
IM
TOO
TRIGGERED
TO
SPELL

I'm not even going to justify it and call it peeking since who fucking cares if defenders run out or look out windows its a free kill.

>>165437178
>not doing fantastic up until round 3 then everything goes downhill and you lose

>>165437336
>not 2v5ing and getting 4 kills and having the last guy walk past your friend and executes you and then he gets bodied by an IQ whos in front of him because he missed a full p90 mag on a 1 shot IQ

>Not having a Doc use a single healing syringe in 12 matches even after being told how to use them.

>>165437336
Your team of randoms in casual wins the first 2 rounds and are about to have a complete blowout, and then the following happens

CHOOSE ALL THAT APPLY
>team mate quits
>team mate is AFK
>team mate team kills for no reason
>team mate gets shot accidentally because of drone related shenanigans, then TK's you for no reason
>team mate TK's someone because of a completely accidental TK in the previous round that he apologized for and you won anyways
>multiple of your team tries to peek attacker spawn and they all die with no kills
>everyone is roaming and the hostage gets extracted
>Fuze'd the hostage
>Grenade'd the hostage
>Nitrocell'd the hostage
>Toxic Babe'd the hostage (but totally worth it)
>Your team all picks recruits trying to meme on the enemy team
>Your team gets meme'd on by a team of recruits
>Someone is marking on your Valk cams before attackers even breach so you lose them all
>Your team tried to peek Glaz knowing full well it's Glaz
>Attackers have 30 seconds left on the clock and you outnumber them but you all leave the objective to try and hunt them down and all die one by one

>>165437883

I think I'll pick the last one, but against defenders and with teammates that rush the door one at a time. KDR fags need to be gassed.

>>165425996
serenity is on another level entirely, that dude is a freak

>>165437883
>2 of the team get peeked while they twiddle their thumbs outside the objective
>other 2 get killed when they run out
>all 5 of the enemy try to meme me
>ENEMY DETECTED OUTSIDE
>some guy rapping the chorus from 8 mile
>palms are sweaty
>kill them all 1 by 1 as I run round and round the house exterior
>not my spaghetti

nice to be on the other side of it for once.

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>>165428940
This. I'm no network engineer, but anyone can see that these welfare servers are the biggest issue holding Siege back. Ubi has all the money in the world to change it, but I guess it's cheaper to pay their freshly graduated engineers to code """improvements""" than to shell out for quality hosting.

>>165440318
>Release patch
>Say it did something
>Find out you didn't even playtest the patch
>Have to say it'll be fixed in the next patch

It's happened multiple times, the biggest joke was with Mute and how only the red circle was enlarged but the actual jamming range wasn't. How much of a shitty, well, anything, do you have to be to not figure out you fucked up one of the main points of the patch?

>>165440318
It's not even very often that you get destroyed because of the shit servers, but when it fucking happens its fucking horrible. The amount of times I've died because I thought I had an extra second because the persons character model is looking the opposite direction and then I'm dead and they had actually been looking at me the whole time isn't too big but its fucking infuriating.

Also lobbies shouldn't allow anyone to have over like 90 ping, you should get put on a shit server with other laggy mother fuckers.

>Last alive as Hibana on Hereford
>Shitter teammate says on mic "hurry up and die so we can play"
>He's at the bottom of the score board with 0-0-2 as Fuze
Killed 2 greedy ops trying to kill me that were coming outside, but as soon as he said that it completely threw me off. I fucking hate christmas noobs.

>>165440476

>misleading or outright false interface

Literally worse than Hitler.

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Dead game?

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>>165425996
tfw Siege youtubers almost all just upload EPIC MONTAGES with clickbait titles
tfw these are really boring to watch when you consider they're all cherry picked

>>165443770
Jackfrags and levelcap have good seige vids purely because they're not that good at the game

>>165444045
Don't watch jackfrags, but watched one of his videos from like a couple months ago to see how he was and he was just baiting like crazy and not giving calls and just letting teammates die so he could get an easy kill.

>>165443770
Remorse is a pro player who is miles ahead of serenity and he uploads full ranked games.

>>165435753
she dreams she'd look half as good as this.

>>165427060

He's talking about the Buck clip near the end

So what new gadgets do you think we're about to see?

>Attack OP with sound distraction gadget
>Defense OP with automated sentries

>>165444192

Link?

>>165446010
defence sensors which auto-spot enemies that walk near them

>>165434409

Yeah, but all mute's trick does is get thatcher to use his EMPs up. A bandit trick eliminates the thermite charge as a problem first.

That said, mute can cover at least 2 walls per jammer so can get more use that way, plus his jammers have about 2-3 seconds before the effect of them does clear when destroyed, which can really help a bandit trying to trick as well.

>>165446010

A defense operator that can put down cardboard cutouts/dummies of himself

>>165446010
Defender with a step ladder.
Attacker who places a tripmine that lets off a silent alarm that she gets sent to a pager.

>>165446010
Defense operator that can buff normal gadgets
Attack operator with a Real Sniper Rifle

>>165446508

I really like that idea, I've been tricked by those other dummies once or twice. Have also been tricked by corpses too.

>>165446629
>Attack operator with a Real Sniper Rifle

Glaz is enough, we do NOT need any l33tHed$h0+ Pros

>>165446696
it will have the ability to penetrate reinforced walls

get ready for some l33t operating and lots and lots of scan points

>>165446696
To be honest I'm shocked he didn't get a loadout like a single-shot rifle and a PP2000 as a sidearm. I like the OTS but that would be a pretty interesting skillshot weapon, eh? PP2K could have a small stick mag rather than a 45-round or whatever its extended mag is. Just a suggestion though, not sure if the Russians would even have a rifle like that

>>165435445
Had a round as monty where caviera LITERALLY ran through me and knifed me while I had shield fully extended. Kill cam even showed her moving through me.

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>using the 2-shot burst on the AR33
Still not sure whether the muzzle brake or the flash hider is the best combo with it

Do real guns make that clicky clompy sound when you look down their sights?

>>165446010
>Hong Kong operator with acid tipped throwing knives similar to MW2

Wouldn't be instant kill but would slowly cause a bleed effect and a teammate would need to pull them out of you to stop it

>Spanish operators.
>Has to take a siesta mid match, too much work for them.

Ez mode as defender.

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>>165451280
>clicky clompy
The idea i would guess is these are fairly well used firearms and the furniture could be a little loose causing some noise, but also the operators are full of climbing gear, grenades, etc. There are plenty of things on their person that would make noise as they move. for example the climbing harnesses on the Jap operators are noisy AF irl.

>>165451572
>should I throw a projectile that will do damage over time at this enemy I see or should I headshot him before he headshots me?

>>165450524

The silencer is the best for it.

>>165435020
>a fucking sniper as the next DLC character
Literally not even confirmed. Everything's just a rumor.

>>165451572
That's pretty dumb. Why would you want someone to be alive and able to give accurate call outs for longer than if you simply shot them in the face?

>>165446010
M U T E charge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gezgYgdUcP0

>>165453090
Stuff we know:

>footage of a reloading bug which played a bolt action animation
>one of the spanish ops has a name that roughly translates to "look" or "see", likely a subtle hint referring to their gadget

People are saying it'll be an SMG attacker with a bolt action rifle as their gadget with some kind of attached gimmick, be that shooting through reinforced walls, spotting people with a thermal scope, or whatever. I think they're pretty close to the mark.

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>When someone jumps out of the building in battlefield you dont complain. Why? Because you expect it. People think ubisoft added the detection because they dont want defenders to go outside. And thats not true. Its part of the game. THe detection is only gives the attackers an advantage outside. Outside isnt the attackers heaven.
>People think ubisoft added the detection because they dont want defenders to go outside. And thats not true.

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>>165446010
K11 rifle for the female Korean attacker operator AKA Diva

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>>165453857
Are you the shitter that cries all game when I jump out the window and pop him as Bandito because he thinks standing around outside is suppose to be safe?

>>165454867
No, because the other day I saw valk placing a camera outside and I revolver sniped her as montagne. That made up for it.

>>165453857
Be glad it isant like it used to be

Defenders could run outside with no wallhacks

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>nobody picks Thermite or Habanero so I do it
>start tensing up cause I actually am playing a very important role

How do I not cave in to the pressure and actually perform well? I can sort of understand why all these people aren't picking Thermite what with the responsibilities coming with it, but someone has to play him

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>plane
>luggage room
>pulse is sitting in that breachable corridor
>it is reinforced except for front and back
>i finish reinforcing all of it for the lulz
>pulse is locked there and he's the last guy alive
>mfw hearing his screechs on the microphone
it's gold lads

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>>165455458

No they dont

>>165455458
In the long run, "maining" Thermite or Habanero will make you a better player tbqh.

It'll teach you to be careful and have restraint.

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>ranked match point 4 - 4
>two players pick shields

for what purpose

>>165428940
Listen here, big guy. No one here's a shitter but you.

I've wiped entire teams of Diamonds as Montagne, whom I bet is on the bottom of your operator tier list. I've been accused of hacking multiple times by players from the best teams in the NA Pro League. I am better than you.

There's a reason you're this mad at the game, and it really is very simple: You are a retard, you fucking suck, and you are unable to adapt. Idiots like you who aren't able to cover the outside of the building for flankers shouldn't be allowed to ruin other people's ranked games. Maybe if you weren't fucking deaf, you'd be able to react accordingly to the velcro sound of nitro cells.

Sure, some things in the game need change, but everyone as laughing at you, the ultimate shitter, who dies preventable deaths and blames them on basic game mechanics.

Go fucking play Battlefield or some shit.

whats the point of glaz when buck can do the same shit with his dmr plus has a pocket shotgun and frags

>>165457253
Muh plane

>>165455458
>Ash main: no thermite...? sigh

>>165457253
Glaz can reasonably use a suppressor, is about all I've got left.

>>165455458
>>165455915
This desu

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>>165455458

>but someone has to play him

No you dont

t.former thermite cuck

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fucking FIX the C8
or make buck 3 speed

>>165458013

what

>>165458013

>muzzle break
>burst fire

??????

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>>165455915
With my personal experience this is pretty accurate. Back before Hibana was a thing I played Thermite in ranked nine times out of ten since I played with a 3-5stack where everyone just sort of naturally fell in roles. I thought it was pretty boring but after a while I ended up pretty much knowing where someone was going ot peek from on every map unless they were doing something really obscure.
>Acog mac-11 Smoke with Nitro in maps room on kanal watching boat supplies main wall gets your thatcher even though you said he'd be there
Those were the days
Fuck you Smoke

>>165458092
>>165458163

>Ash mains

Did you flank or use c4 today r6g?

>>165458790
Buck's gun as is is god-tier

Go away winter cancer

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>>165458790

I main Buck actually

>>165459298
then you must be retarded to not see the problems with the C8 unless you're a CAMARS memelord

>>165458013
>More 3 speeds
Fuck off

>>165459531

Ill admit the C8 has some big recoil problems.


but you just gotta git gud.

Buck was OP tier when the muzzle brake released

>>165459531
>memelord

it has a higher fire rate than the C8

how about you lose some of that finger fat and start clicking

Okay, what the fuck is the deal with the Holo Sight on Buck's C8? It feels like just equipping it gives the gun a completely different (and much more manageable) recoil pattern.
Like, the gun feels like it has completely insane random recoil with a suppressor/extended barrel with any other sight, but with the Holo, it feels much better. Is this just because the visual recoil looks different through the holo, or does it somehow actually fuck with the _actual_ recoil?

>>165459941
>it's been another Buck DMR shitposter this whole time
Ok, here's your (you)

>>165459994
it is just the visual recoil

that works for every gun

Give us some joke gamemodes, or atleast some fun modifiers for custom matches
>multiple people playing as the same op
>attackers defending and vice versa
>bottomless clips
>able to pick any weapon regardless of CTU
>stat mods, 3 speed 3 armor

>>165459994

Try the red dot for a little move to holo and if your up to it try the ACOG.

When you can control the C8 with an ACOG you will be unstoppable

>>165460117
Everyone gets 3x their normal gadget count.

>>165460097
I swear, no other gun gets this effect as noticeably as the C8. I can generally manage any gun with any sight, but the C8 is the only one that feels like a whole different gun when used with/without the Holo.

>>165460117
I can only imagine how much fun the 3 days it would take for Ubisoft to release "[FIXED] Bug where you can pick speed in ranked games" would be

>>165460117
Yes, would be great, but Ubishit are fucking garbage and won't. Here's more garbage skins though.

>>165460237
>A map completely covered in jammers
I want this now.

>>165460117
>5 Monty defense
>5 Glaz spawn peekers
>5 Tachunky memelords
Nah.

>>165460363
I'd rather take the skins instead of garbage joke game modes

>>165460765
Good goy.

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>>165460095
>TS not in the big guy 4 (You) chair

>>165460560
>three chanka turrets
>nine EDDs
>nine doormats
>fifteen armor plates
>twelve batteries
>twelve blackeyes
>shiva-mode cav sneaking around with three M92's and three empty hands

>>165460117
>Game mode where defenders have no guns but 5 nitro cells each

>>165461367
*nine blackeyes

>bandit pulls out nine razor wire rolls

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>Castle 44%

>>165461774
>Increased amount of laser sights
I can't wait until this becomes the hip new thing

>>165461774
Why is Hibana picked over Thermite?

>>165461774

What use does the laser even have?

When are you ever hipfiring with a non-shotgun?

>>165461971

Kill holes>Entrances

>>165462075
Tighter shot grouping

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hey lads

while putting the wallpaper + key art gallery together i ran into a bit of an issue. namely, the fact that the echo and hibana operator pics which are over a background (like pic related) are 50mb, and imgurs' file size limit is 20mb.

so i'm thinking of posting those few pic on another image hosting site and linking it in the gallery. do you guys have any recommendations?

>>165462075
There's a few edge cases:

Shield users.
Buck.
When you have a gun with an ACOG, and you need a way to deal with extreme close range surprises.

In addition, certain weapons just have surprisingly good hipfire with a laser, and it can be legit to hipfire them even beyond very short range, say if you're wallbanging or trying to break barricades or suppressing an angle or prefiring in certain spots. (For example: Hibana's rifle, Buck's DMR, Smoke's primary SMG...)

>>165461971
>3 speed
>amazing rifle
>flashbangs instead of smokes
>able to make kill holes at any height instead of one giant hole with no cover
>able to breach reinforced hatches perfectly fine
>smg sidearm that's arguably better than most primary smgs
>able to spend all three charges to make a thermite sized hole anyway if that's what the team requires

Pretty much objectively superior in every single regard, outside of making two big holes on opposite sides of the point.

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>the servers are working fine according to ubisoft

>>165461774
Castle does make a bit more sense if you consider the 0% Glaz and 6% Fuze pickrate. The guys who turn him into a liability just aren't meta.

>>165462786
You might as well just make a .rar file and upload it

>>165420734
Why is the ranking system in this game so bullshit? It's not my fault that I keep getting stuck on shit teams. There's no way I should be getting an above-1 KD and dropping in rank. I keep getting stuck in between copper IV and Bronze I because my teams end up being so bad.

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>>165461774

>Fuze that low

>>165453857
If they didn't want attackers going outside then they would have made the red barrier that stops you going outside during setup permanent.

>>165464341
Clearly the intention is for defenders not to go outside, but they wouldn't stick an invisible wall anywhere cause that would be retarded. I don't have a problem with it anyway I just thought that post was autism.

>>165463995
3 armor just triggers competitive players very badly. That, and they're afraid to change up from what's worked until now.

>attacking
>10 seconds remaining
>whole team is standing outside open door way into the secure area
>they wont push because they're pussies
>push in and start securing from the edge of the room
>get TK'd
>round lost failed to secure the area
>"sorry bro i was trying to prefire at that door didnt know you were there"

americans need to stay out of EU

>it's an entire team of germans playing on NA servers with 200+ ping episode

Why is this allowed Ubi?

>>165461774
>two ugliest characters are the most picked

thanks ubi

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>do you want a green helmet?
>or a slightly greener helmet for twice the amount?

>>165463937
I honestly think you're not that far off rank if you can't carry your way out of copper and bronze by playing a strong OP for getting picks and playing carefully just in case. Just look for at least one other player to pair with if you're so convinced you're losing because of your team.

>>165461774
Why is mute that low? He's amazing on defense and keeping enemy from spotting areas and friends.

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>>165463141
Also shotguns in general benefit from the attachment
Just try to keep it hidden up until you make a move

>>165465459
>dat IQ with her sneakers and her legs in the exact in-game pose
HNNNNNNNG
CUTE

Got any more cosplay?

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>>165465057
Thank fucking God the girls in Siege look like shit or at best "alright". Waifu fags are the absolute worst thing you can have in a general.

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>that nigga with a 5k ping

>>165465581
I hope your name is ironic

>>165465537

Thats a dude btw

>>165461961
>>165462075
Pretty sure the only reason so many of them are using lasers is because they were doing it as a joke when streaming on twitch and probably forgot to turn it off, a lot of those pros play with and against each other regularly. It's basically a meme, lasers don't do anything for you unless you have a shotgun.

>>165465694
>Implying I care what's between their legs
you're cute, anon

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>>165465581
>not having a ping so high that the in-game ping counter doesn't even go that high

>>165465276
At very high level play, he's extremely site-dependent. If he has no amazing places for his jammers at a given site, most teams would rather have someone with 1armor and a better gun.

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>Attackers can pick up rook armor

>>165466272
Someone post the tachanka+rook armor attacker webm, thanking them

>>165466272

WHEN I CALL IT SERIOUS PROTECTION

YOU SHOULD PICK IT

>>165465694
I dont believe any man outside of auschwitz could have legs and arms that small

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>It's a 'your entire team still thinks ranked is 4 minutes so they stand around until there is 30 seconds left and line up to get headshotted as they enter' unreleased episode

>>165460237
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>>165457158
who the fuck are you talking to? Because you sure as hell didn't mean to reply to me.

>>165465057
Theres a lot of hoping with them redoing Twitch that they might fix Valk and Hibana

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>>165465581
Sometimes shit gets reeeeally bad after this new """patch"""

4th echelon CTU when?

>>165468164
Listen here, big guy. No one here's a shitter but you.

I've wiped entire teams of Diamonds as Montagne, whom I bet is on the bottom of your operator tier list. I've been accused of hacking multiple times by players from the best teams in the NA Pro League. I am better than you.

There's a reason you're this mad at the game, and it really is very simple: You are a retard, you fucking suck, and you are unable to adapt. Idiots like you who aren't able to cover the outside of the building for flankers shouldn't be allowed to ruin other people's ranked games. Maybe if you weren't fucking deaf, you'd be able to react accordingly to the velcro sound of nitro cells.

Sure, some things in the game need change, but everyone as laughing at you, the ultimate shitter, who dies preventable deaths and blames them on basic game mechanics.

Go fucking play Battlefield or some shit.

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>playing echo on 2nd floor oregon on bomb
>1v1 me vs thatcher
>hide in the dark bunk room, set up yokai to watch the both stairs
>thatcher drones me out, kill drone, quickly move positions
>see thatcher SLOWLY moving down the hallway, thinking he knows exactly where I am
>crosses the door threshold, hit him with one yokai blast
>firing wildly at where he thinks I am
>pop out and spray him down
>team goes crazy

Is there a better feeling to experience?

>>165464852

The intention is for going outside to be a high risk maneuver with easy counter-play, but people are so tunnel visioned and insistent that they "shouldn't" get killed by peekers and runouts that they don't even bother to look out for them half of the time and bitch and moan after they die.

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>>165465537
Here's that Thatcher again

>>165459298
>bandit and buck
Are you me?

>>165470236
Fookin' noice.

>play buck
>make hole
>get killed the second I look in it because loud as fuck shotgun and a jet engine for a gun
>switch to the superior sledge

>>165446517
I don't think any CTU would accept Phoenix Wright.

>>165470236
Nice Thatcher, Albeit in the Smoke Pose,

>>165470236
Nice, be funny if someone did a Thatcher cosplay and put a laser on their gun

>>165470236
Is it just me or does he look like he has a big belly?

>>165468561
its funny they decided to "fix" the one acceptable character yet keep adding all these horrors each update

>>165430946
Is there even any meat on that it looks awful for a sandwich. At least put a beef or chicken patty on it.

>>165460237
MILES OF ELECTRIC WIRE

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>>165471404

>put a supressor on 416 C
>flank and get 4 kills
>next defend round
>flank and get 3
>feelsgoodman
It was casual but I was solo queued

>>165446173
Shit like the things the spies had in Splinter Cell

>>165460237
>defenders pick impact nades, attackers pick breaching charges
We bad company now?

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Dead game?

>>165471958
Dead Fuhrer
Dead Reich
Dead (You)

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>>165459531
>not using the CAMRs and hitting that muthafuckin' left mouse click

>>165453367
CoD gets a lot of shit for bloat but they have some cool ass gadgets

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>>165461774
>>165463995
>>165465276
>>165461961
>>165461971

Real question is what we're the winning team combos? Also why are Spetsnaz Operators near 0. Should we add the FSB because they seem like they fit in better then Spetsnaz for a hostage rescue to be honest or most other things in Siege.

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>>165471958
Dead Dream Team

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just started playing, am I a cuck?

>>165471958
Only a man dumb enough to start a two front war with one front being the Soviet Union would say something as dumb as that.

>>165472734
You post on 4chan, so yes.

>>165472565
That's a good question, I'll main Thermite till I die because two of muh really big fucking holes and the 556 just feels good for me now

>>165461774
Do the pros use SMG or shotgun as smoke?

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>>165470236
Rdy to disco.

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>>165472734
>picking operators almost always needed, but most won't because they're seen as boring
That's being a team player

>>165472565
>why are Spetsnaz Operators near 0
Speed 1, Glaz is very situational, Fuze sucks against people who know what they're doing. Tachankin is a fucking meme, Kapkan is bad Frost

>>165465581
>tfw the peruvian playing ash with 5000ms headshots you before you even connect to the server

Fuck you, Ubisoft.

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>mfw I am Bandit camping the reinforced wall waiting for Thermite and only deploying my shock generator when I hear him attach his special charge destroying it and making me LITERALLY UNCOUNTERABLE

>>165466272
I watched an Ash, an IQ, and a Hibana all grab my fucking plates after I died alone when my piece of shit faggot teammates all ran off to roam and refused to come back to the hostage.

>>165473457
SMG to get as many kills as possible before they run out of ammo and are forced back in to the shotgun which was previously used to make kill holes for the SMG.

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>>165474061
>mfw I am Hibana and COUNTER Bandits behind reinforced walls

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holy fuck with every patch this game becomes laggier and laggier in terms of FPS

fuck it i can't even get close 20 fps

>>165474032

Are esport players that much of mouth breathers they cant play 1 speed?

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>>165474061

>>165470646
I would recommend using Sledge if you're playing in anything beneath gold or casual because everyone seems to be deaf.

He's not as quiet as you think he is when it comes to people that listen.

>>165475080
rook and doc are both played retard

>>165474032
>Kapkan is bad Frost
get a load of this shitter

the chances of the enemy detecting a frost mat is fourty times bigger than them detecting an EDD

ffs you can't hide the frost mat anywhere because it's humongous
and it can be easily countered by anyone who isn't a copper

>>165475192
They get played because the MP5 shoots like a laserbeam

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If you don't play with the euro team on the ts, you're fucking gay and your memes are weak blooded and lacking in substance.

>>165475835
Wareshedder

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oil spill bundle now out

>>165475835
Commoncheese sucks

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>>165476821
or you can buy it for 5,000 renown or 120 R6 Credits. keep in mind though it's Non-universal so you gotta buy it for each pistol.

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>>165476998

>>165475835
A FUCKING CHEESE

>>165476821
fade sounds so much better than fucking oil spill

>>165476998
That's pretty sexy. This is what I want to see when it comes to cosmetics.

>>165474689
>having a shitrig

Nothing to do with updates lad, I could understand if you said maps because some are more intensive than others but updates arent doing that

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>>165475835
T. King of The Cucks

>>165478003
>>165477309
>>165476860
>>165476056
>t.literally fucking whos

talk to me when your ts famous bitch

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>>165478095
>ts famous

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>>165478217
>smug anime pics
i bet you roam as 1 speed

Do you think they should improve the reload time of the revolver? I mean keep the damage and recoil but buff the reload. It seems so slow compared other sidearms and even the comparable deagle. Unless I am crazy and all the reload times are the same.

>>165478306
(You)

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>>165477202
deagle brand deagle

the webm was too high res and i'm too lazy to trim it down

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>>165475835
>>165478095
>>165478217
>BO- *static* TUM SCOREEEEE
>[*STATIC* INTENSIFES]

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>get put into a ranked French server with only 2 other Americans on the team
>they're all 200+ ping
>Frenchfag on our team complaining that we're noobs while hes in last place
>begs us to surrender 2 rounds in

>>165477387
They could've just called it Oil

Iono why they added spill

>>165478508
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1KMNEmnDGBY

for u bby <3

>>165475651
Doc is barely played, and the spetsnaz smg has just as little recoil.

However it doesn't get an ACOG and their gadget is literally worthless. Armor always help a bit.

Daily reminder to ignore TS posts and TS as a whole.

>>165478605
Man, fuck the tower. It's such a piece of shit bomb.

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>>165479183

>>165479183

fuck off autistic fuck