/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

Reminder: ignore all Ice Ferret posters, continue using your Shadow Cats

>>165406674
I'd rather ignore both

>>165406707
same, viper is better than both tb h desu

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>>165406674
>mfw Shadow Cats vs. Ice Ferrets continues

>>165406524
Who else is getting the bush? Also anyone know what some good builds will be for it

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BUSHWACKER COMING IN LESS THAN A WEEK

WHO /BUSH/ HERE???

>>165407147
haruko

nah they shave to be aero

>>165407147
so cute x3!

>>165407147
I'll buy it for C-Bills if it's good. Not in a rush to buy an IS 55-tonner.

-I guess it's fun

t. whispers

>>165407147

ill buy it for c-bills next yer maybe

are clam mechs cheaper to buy and refit than nigger sphere mechs?

>>165409953
Clan Omnis are the easiest to set up on a budget.

>>165409953

when you factor in engine swaps, omni-pods, and owning 3 for mastery, i think they end up pretty similar

>>165410265
post-skill tree revamp, omnipods will be peanuts compared to how much it costs to change battlemechs for different hard points
buy a clam omni with the best CT, and from that point on never worry about the best engine or hardpoints. you're set for life unless you really can't wait the 60 to 90 days

>tfw nothing is as fun as flying across the map at lightning speed taking out plebes with sick shots in your shadow cat

>>165412063
12 man 50 tonner rush.

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>>165412837
>when the wwwwww doesn't stop

>>165412063
Eh, I sold my Shadow Cat after getting mad about how gimpy it is if it loses a single arm, let alone its RT
Stormcrow is better, Hunch IIC is better, and if you want to be zippy you just pick a Light

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>>165406951
XL engine?

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x5 cerml. x4 csrm6

Timber woof. did I do gud gerg?

>pic unrelated birb having a bath in the summer rain

>>165420691
Too hot. It's okay, though.

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>>165421104
I have 850 SRM ammo and dhs out the ass. Thinking of dropping ammo to put more dhs on. 1.2 /2 cooling

>pic unrelated me my galah and his lady friend (wild) having a spazzout cheeping session wings flapping headbanging and thrown about crest feathers raised

Dumped a cerml and some ammo moved 1 slot items around to fit 2 more dhs on for 1.3 / 2 heat mgmt.

Dropped from 83 alpha to only 76.

So when you queue up for a match, is it trying to balance teams based off of team weight total? Or is it number of mechs in each weight class?

Give Night Gyr builds, please.

>>165427993
Preferably with PPCs.

>>165422475
The closer to the enemy you fight the cooler you need to be, as you will have less opportunities to duck and chill. If you wanna be facefucking people with srms, you need higher than 1.2

Hey guys I bought a BLR-2C but I can only mount Inner sphere equipment in it, is this a bug?

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>>165429086
According to the forums the BattleMaster Lic runs Clan equipment. But the BattleMaster 2C should be able to as well since they have the same name.

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the third weapon mount on a Night Gyr arm looks fucking terrible god DAMN, they didnt even fucking try, just slapped a box on the INSIDE and REAR of the fucking arm! it doesn't even sit alongside the other two weapons, it's behind them! and wtf is with all that spinning garbage in the cockpit? the Night Gyr has this amazing panoramic visor but they block off the peripheral with machinery shit, what the fuck were they thinking? i love the model otherwise but i cant get over this shit, they shouldve used the time they took making and cramming in cockpit clutter to actually make a proper third arm mount, its stupid and doesnt make sense and it looks like garbage

>>165432210
You should see what he did with the Assassin anon.

>>165432364

what did he do to it? i've only seen concept art

myself i'm worried about the Supernova, looked good in MW3 and the mechtek version in their MW4 pack looked incredible, but from what i've seen in the skinning streams PGs model is squashed (from the front and back) with stub arms

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BUSHWANKER

to anyone saying 'bushwacker' you're spelling it fucktardedly wrong.

the mech is named for the teamster gangs rich assholes used to employ in america during the expansion and colonisation periods, most famously the 'wild west' although they were also used in the french and indian wars. you'd basically hire a bunch of thugs and goons to employ violence far enough away from you that you'd not get fingered / blamed for it.

this led to the term 'Bushwhacking' and 'bushwhackers' being used as ambushing people from the scrub or heath out in the wilds became a common archetypal tactic employed by these assholes

>>165435541
Battletech spells it "Bushwacker".
I'm sorry anon, I know you're right, and it irks me too, but it's Bushwacker.

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I want a commando.
Which commando do I buy, /gerg/?

>>165433483
twitch tv/piranhagames/v/101679236

>>165436105
>twitch tv/piranhagames/v/101679236

jesus christ he gets paid to do this

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>decide to sit through the whole GG revelator animeme story mode.
>7 hour run time.
>mfw I do it anyway.
>mfw the events after slash still don't make any fucking sense.
>mfw story mode looks better and has higher production value than most modern anime.

>>165409953
For a single mech yes. Clan omnis have the cheapest meta refits. But for mastery a standard engine IS can be cheaper, but only if you swap the same engine between the three mechs.

>Phil the Shill Lang talking about PGI's skill tree system and not needing variants anymore
>Hints that PGI can now do just 1 mech packs where you pay for 1 mech ala Steam performance pieces of shit
>Also suggests that PGI could just release a new chassis that only has that one variant and nothing else. "but muh specific role!" is given as reasoning.

Oh God. Minimally Viable Marketing.

>>165445098
MWO going full world of wankshits/ hurl of spanks.

>>165445098
>Daeron the obese goo gobbler suggesting $6-10 for one mech + mechbay for it

LOLWUT

>Playing the HBK-4G
>Score a cockpit hit with my AC/20
>Target Destroyed

E R O T I C

>>165435965

they're all a bit on the garbage side but i do fairly well in the 3D, or whichever one has the 2 CT missile slots. max out the engine, put in two srm 4s with 3 tons of ammo and that's about it. the problem with commandos is that their arms are the first thing to go, and they only have 16 armor, so its really not worth mounting weapons on them.

>>165435541

are we insulting your heritage, dashing?

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>>165449087

brings back memories of how i pulled off a 1v4 assault defense with my hunchie as last mech standing.

Anyway, It's been a good long while since i played mwo, but i've been having a blast lately with mercs.

mw2 mercs that is.

What are good builds on the Firebrand? Bought it during sale and only now got to working on Jagermechs (DD has been a blast so far).

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>>165435541
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bushwacker

New roadmap today, anyone got any idea what it'll contain?

>>165450843
Is he a texan?

>>165422475
>850 SRM ammo
>5ML

Way, way too fucking hot.

5SPL 4ASRM6 2/3JJs and the rest DHS with 4-5t of ammo is the brawling TBR.

>>165459937

who

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>tfw all alone on mumble.

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MW:O is probably going to get my money with the Bushwacker. It's been my favorite for a long time and has been my go-to in all the other games. Nostalgia just hits harder as I get older. I'm afraid.

>>165467665
There's nothing shameful in grabbing.

>>165467665
>>165468212
Yep, nothing wrong with grabbing while grab deals are still even minutely wortwhile.

Fear instead for the new grabdeals they intend to start with the advent of the skill tree system. 1 mech for 10-15 dollars, ala World of Tanks.

>>165468212
Not that anon but there is everything shameful in grabbing.
>>165467665
It's okay though, I am too.

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>>165467665
>>165468212
>>165468507
We get it. You played robots before it was kewl.

>>165468587
This anon is correct.

SHAME
H
A
M
E

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>>165469546

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>>165469546
>played robots before it was minimally viable
>played robots before old men fed the pig to death
>played robots before YOUR AD HERE

Why are all the good-looking robots always the shittiest?

>>165477423
low mounted weapons or fixed equipment jumpjets

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>>165427478
>alance teams based off of team weight total? Or is it number of mechs in each weight class?

It prioritizes average skill on one team vs average skill on the other team. Weight is only a secondary consideration. It also used to keep everyone in the same overall skill bracket for the match, but they've thrown that away which explains why the match times are so fast for the past few months.

>>165427993
>>165428084
Two goose and a pepsi
Two goose and some torso lasers
Two pepsi and a goose and a TC
Bunch of uacs
Bunch of lrm20s

There you go, all the nightgyr builds.

>>165429086
2C is a reference to the second cockpit
IIC is a reference to the clan version

>>165454107
Goose and 6 lasers
2 ppc and 2 ac5
2 ppc and 4 lasers
2 ac10 and 4 lasers

>>165477423
Not always, but there does seem to be some inverse relationship

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>tfw started a new job and dont have the time to rape shitters in LL anymore

is the PIG's game still shite?

>>165480887
fuck off Pardo

>>165479880
>Goose and 6 lasers
Eh, goose is too loose now.

>2ppc and 2 ac5
Fun, but kinda seem to be on the hot side

>2 ppc and 4 lasers
2x ERPPC and 4x MPL and chock it full of doubleheats? I can only fit like 19 on there, ERPPCs are hot as fuck and taking normal PPCs seems like a waste with that velocity buff.

>2 ac10 and 4 lasers
dis, dis I liek.

Then again I just got done running it with 2x AC2, 2x ERLL, 4x ERML, 4 extra DHS, 6 tons of ammo for the AC2's and an XL engine. Did well, I think. 827 damage, 7 kills, 8 KMDD, 4 solo kills, 4 assists.

Sniping away with those ERLLs + AC2s from 740 meters away was hilarious as fuck.

>>165481070
>that build

Do people get less retarded in tier 1?
t. tier 2

>>165482287
>do people get less retarted with more time and experience

depends on the person

>>165482287
no

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>>165482057
I know, it's stupid as fuck but apparently works in a tier 1-3 environment!

>>165482287
yes

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>>165482287
>he still believes tiers matter jack shit

>>165482516
>blacking everything out

>>165482516
>blocks out the names

but why

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>>165482057
>>165482516
I mean look at this.

It's stupid as fuck, but constantly hammering at targets 740-800m away with AC2's and ERLLs was enough to murder 7 of them.

>>165482583
fuck off Pardo

>>165482670
>>165482720
I thought you guys liked to get [blacked].

>>165482779
I mean what are you trying to prove here?

>>165482940
That it's a stupid fucking build yet it worked in "supposedly" tier 1. That's all.

I'll go back to 2x AC10 and some memelasers now.

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>people arguing about builds in a shit game

lamao

>double digit assaults
Why aren't people like this drowned when their deficiency becomes apparent?

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get on my level shitters

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=326&l=8307417cb3d02ff69cc24930721a69023613938d

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>>165437550
>two hour stream watching Mech cancer metastasize on screen as the old gold men make suggestions in the live chat on where to place the tumors and how big they should be

It's some horrible nightmare and they are actually showcasing it.

>>165486212
fuck off Pardo

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https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/01/1692-group-queue-tonnage-changes

y tho

>>165491283
There were a few goals behind these changes:

• Most simply, to reduce the amount of tonnage on the battlefield for groups of 3-10 players.
• To keep the tonnage ratio closer together as the Group increases in size.
• To keep 2-player Groups as the most versatile and least restricted.
• To evaluate the results of these changes, in the wild, on the resulting amount of overall firepower and its effect on matches.

This is the first Group Tonnage change in some time, but we will monitor the results of these latest changes and adjust if needed.

t. no fun allowed

>>165491283
>still can't queue with 11 people so it'll be 11+1 guy from solo queue vs 11+1

>>165491283
At this point why can't we just go back to 8v8 and cut all of this time wasting bullshit?

Guys is MWO p2w?

Best meme is double digits assaults

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Why aren't you playing Mechwarrior Living Legends? Literally no excuse.

>>165496353
Yes

>>165499012
eric pls

Guys why do I feel like I still have ammo left poop when I eject it?

ded

>>165505835
It's a friday night, kong is out doing normie shit

that's because gerg aren't people who actually play video games

WHM 7S builds?

currently running x2 SRM6+a, x2 LLAS, x4ML and an XL300 FOR FAST and a shitload of DHS no endo so i have enough free slots for dhs.

Saving C-Bills for my first Clan Heavy. Night Gyr or Timber Wolf? Which variant?

>>165506537
niggyr if you want to run the freshest memery pepsigoose.

timber woof if you want to run standard memery (srm+las wub)

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=163&l=c55fd5e8595e26526c1327a66269f6750019d2a6

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=309&l=74b53ffbb2fbfeedb2e65f656f8704e2b4a08ecd

>>165506458
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=384&l=c2bfc3dd9e08215955d1fc906f45dd74fab7020a
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=384&l=88bdff587aecdbd0e504d61ab590583e53053880
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=384&l=a239bcc0f9ce2b884d269e743695ec329376d986

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=165&l=38351cef4c3b130ed964a1bb676129764fe70dde

>>165508035
that's the other stuff i've been thinking of, using ghostheat-1 las vomiting set ups. xl280 or 300 lets me run x6ml, x3 LPL or x6MPL, x3 LLAS

>>165508606
my bad, confused it with another mech.

x3 and x3.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=384&l=3686945bb85f928b6350693f381a45333db3b02c

x3 LPL, x3MPL for wubbing FOREVER

did anyone here go to either the steam launch event or MechCon?

This March, we will be detailing the mid-summer release of new Inner Sphere and Clan weaponry and equipment for MechWarrior Online. The timeline is advancing, and with it comes not only a new array of potential weapons and equipment technology with which to customize your existing ‘Mechs, but the potential for an array of new and remarkable ‘Mechs to pilot and customize.

>>165511860
Pretty sure a few people were at mechcon, somebody was playing the battletech alpha and checked out the mw5 alpha

>>165513015
>it's real
Holy fucking shit I'm officially hyped now, March can't come fast enough.

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>>165513015
>>165513412

Ho-boy! I can't wait for Paul to knock this one out of the park.

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>>165513015
>>165514191
>>165513412
MELEE POSSIBILITY WHEN
IS UACS WHEN
USEFULL FLAMERS WHEN
FUCKING MELEE WHEN
MRMS WHEN
I dont want to believe what Im about to say but if they bring things like Heavy machine guns or MRM's, they will be reskins of the other weapons
>inb4 Mrms are just srms with longer range
>inb4 heavy machine guns are machine guns with a heavier sound
But I want to believe /gerg/

>>165514671
IS racs is what i want.

x2rac5 /10's WOOF

>>165514671
Flamers are incredibly useful you tier 5 shitter

>reskins of other weapons
That's what half the new tech already fucking is

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>>165513015
LIGHT

ENGINES

W H E N
H
E
N

>>165515069
>Flamers are incredibly useful you tier 5 shitter
After they were buffed they were amazing but when they got nerfed again they are not that amazing. Would love them to be the stunlock king against laser shitters again

>>165515374
They haven't eaten any nerfs that matter and are great weapons with a specific role right now.

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>>165515726
Eh, still wanna see one of them cook a clan mech till its engine dies, only seen it done of IS meds

>>165516095
You only need 2 flamers to quickly bring any mech to 90% heat in a few seconds. If they fire anything but gauss outside of chainfire they shutdown.

Not sure what more you could want except maybe for them to not look like complete shit.

>>165514671
Flamers are pretty good right now, better than they were in MW4
They'll never be as good as they were in MW3 though, back when 16 Flamers would instantly stackpole even the fattest fat Assault in one hit

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Which cicada is the best cicada?

>>165519237
the best cicada is a dead cicada

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>>165519237
>blocking yourself out

Come on, nigga.

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>>165519237
>being a complete pussy and blocking all your info out

>>165519237
Are you too retarded to realize it's easier to just press the little arrows into hiding pilot and unit info?

>>165519970
That answer should be obvious by now

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Where is spudbuddy?
I miss him

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>>165520283
You're fuckin' with me, right?

>>165521413
see >>165513015

>>165521453
Oh, well fug.

>>165513015
Well now. I wonder if RAC5 spam can overtake pepsigoose through sheer DPS. And what will they do with ATMs and MMLs? Also Heavy PPCs may overtake ERPPCs in IS lineups completely.

Also link for lazy people.
http://mwomercs.com/news/2017/01/1693-roadmap-for-january-february-beyond

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Why are there so many name fags in this thread now so suddenly

>>165513015
I am ready for the MRMs and RAC5s

What does this mean? We know the two most sought after mechs from that era are the Uziel for the IS side, and the MadCat Mk. II for the Clans.
What could the other two be?

What is the IS light mech next week?
Post your face when dirty unwashed Inner Sphereoids are Flea ridden.

>>165522795
No, they will release a silhouette that looks like a Mad Cat but then bait and switch to reveal it to be the Rakshasa, just to troll a certain obsessed fanboy.

>>165522795
Imagine the old gold mens faces when the flea is announced

is Flea even good
won't it just be another Locust

it was terrible in MW4, both were actually

>>165523710
A shittier locust that is smaller and probally moves as quick as it
Yes it will be terrible

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Kongdrops™ happening

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>>165519237
Running a 3C with no armor, a 100 standard and two AC/20s and having minimally viable fun with it.

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>>165513015
>advancing the timeline to 3060+

ProtoMechs when?

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Kongdrops™ continue

>>165519237
3M for most people.
2A for skilled pilots who need more firepower.
3F for skilled pilots who don't need more firepower.
2B for pilots who need more quirks.
3C for pilots who want to steal all of the kills at the end of the fight and look like they contributed something.

>>165521614
>http://mwomercs.com/news/2017/01/1693-roadmap-for-january-february-beyond

>no 20 ton clan light
>it'll be yet another instantly trash-canned nigger sphere light, as 20-30 tonners are worthless and 35 tonners are fucking huge and instantly raped by streaks/ anyone with half decent aim

>IS hero mechs = resistance hero mechs, more laser vomit faggotry. Black Knight hero looking to be lasers + 1-2 ballistic(s) in right arm retardation
>Clan hero mechs = invasion wave 2 ones, HBR + IFR + GAR + MDD heroes, oh boy actually something potentially viable (HAHAHA NO)

>new assault isn't going to replace old assault, it's going to be its own game mode called Incursion, because lol pgi

>3060 tech introduction in summer bringing 4 new mechs, 2 of which will be using said tech
>Hoping for MRMs and ER lasers for IS, Heavy lasers for clan at the very least
>Clans will probably get Blood Asp and Nova cat, while nigger sphere will probably get more trash

For the first time in MWO history, there's less mechs to be excited about than actual new content...

>>165533305
It's probably going to be two IS omnimechs. I'd put money on the Avatar and the Sunder, but the Blackjack II would be good since it's got endo in it and not ferro to block up crit space. Nice and meta compliant from the get-go, which is a good thing since you wouldn't be able to change it since it's an omni. That's honestly what I'm worried about with IS omnis, too, everything has more crit space and weighs more. The Avatar will have locked CASE, locked jump jets, and a locked XL 280 to keep it at a brisk 64.8 kph for a 70 tonner. Meanwhile, the Sunder is locked with an XL and doesn't have either ferro or endo to benefit from. I just don't think IS omnis would have enough tons to work with to be viable.

>>165533807

In the lore, what were the first IS Omnis? Hauptman and Owens were developed early as well, yes?

Firebrand, yes or no?

>>165535127
no

>>165535127
It has weak ballistic quirks and decent energy ones so only if you really want an energy or ppc jager

>>165513216
cool, well if anyone did, speak up, I want to ask them some questions in a private chat about it

>>165535159
>>165535468
What mech would you recommend for a medium to long range ballistic pocking?

>>165535785
IS or clan?

>>165535785
Clam: Ebin Jag
IS: Grasshoppy

>>165535850
Both?
>>165536056
Thanks

>>165536096
Night Gyr
Warhammer

>>165535785
Ballistic poking? Warhammer 6R and Warhammer Black Widow.

Alternatively Catapult K2 with 2x LL 2x UAC/5.

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NO CLAM HERO WAVE 2 TILL APRIL?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME PIG?

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>>165491283

This is one of the more retarded changes in some time. I can already see the gold men make huge bitch threads about how they're not allowed to bring their lance of LRM archers and other assorted trash to small manz.

>>165513015
>>165521614

i hope they add variants to previous mechs with the new tech like NTG-H please

>>165536907
Are the Wave 2 heroes named yet? I'd pay serious dosh for two Hero Shadowcats

>>165534482

The raptor is the first IS omni, and the only gimps it has are the tonnage class and shit armor. We can add more armor, but it's still terrible.

Other early omnis are the avatar, owens, strider, and sunder, but all except the sunder would be shit tier in MWOAH due to shit like hardwired singles, no endo ever, locked trash equipment, and just by virtue of being IS robutts.

IS omnis don't really get good until the templar, but that's 3060 stuff.

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>Left Arm ER Large Laser x3,
>Right Arm ER Large Laser x3,

>PIG still releasing robots that suffer from SPOOPY HEAT™ with their default loadouts

kek

>>165537860
fuck off Pardo

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>>165537297
No, but they mosty likely will follow the order of original mechpack releases.

SHC from the current steam medium pack is basically a hero, so why wait?

>tfw smol bushwanker

>>165537297
>I'd pay serious dosh for two Hero Shadowcats

get gassed autist.

>>165538152
fuck off Pardo

>>165536907
>Shitternova in february
>le edgy originul character; DONUT STEEL! in march
>Retardneck in april
>no new mech pack in february

>>165537297
>hero shadowcat

That's wave 3, expect it next year.

Besides, the steam shadowcat is cbill boosted and lets you do all the shittercat shittery you want already.

Wave 2 is going to contain Hellbringer, Ice Ferret, Mist Lynx, Gargoyle and Mad Dog.

Personally got a huge boner for the Mad Dog and Hellbringer, but if the other three actually offer viability for those chassis I might go full gold man.

>>165538240
>hellbringer hero
>iceferret hero

noice

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>>165538318
>ice ferret hero
WTHT FTH THE FUCKKK????

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>Haracuck's face when nice ferret hero.

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>>165538756
Who?

Is hugelander less shit now that it got kwirks?

>>165539615
Hugelander toosee is meh. Either 3x LPL + Gauss or 2x LPL 2xUAC10. Everything else is mediocre to bad.

IS hugelander is garbage.

MW Classic gamemode when?
No quirks, no clans, no spooky, stock only.

>>165541115
Already available in private lobbies, you dumb fuck.

>>165533305
>development in mwo
>new weapons
>new gamemode

I love how some cucks thought there were never going to be new weapons

>>165543143
I love how for two years straight that was true and when they finally get desperate enough cucks like you jump up and down on piggys asian dick and proclaim they're the best.

>>165543335
PGI is not Asian.

>>165543143
No you don't understand, they don't know how to make any new weapons. I read it on the internet so it must be true.

>it's a 15cm high curb stops a 100-ton stompy robot dead in its tracks episode
just

>>165543683
They're canadian, and canadians are a bunch of spineless cuckolds well in the process of selling their country to the chinese.

Paul Inouye is an obese asian fuck.

>>165537401
>Other early omnis are the avatar, owens, strider, and sunder, but all except the sunder would be shit tier in MWOAH due to shit like hardwired singles, no endo ever, locked trash equipment, and just by virtue of being IS robutts.
>no endo ever
>locked trash equipment
So they're just like the clan omnis that suck african american penis, as in almost all of them except the few good mediums and heavies.

>it's a potatoes do the literal opposite of what you tell them to and hold their fire, until they can shoot around the VIP mech at enemyies when the vip walks in front of its retarded team right over saddle into your whole teams faces at 300m and closing and REFUSE to shoot at the same thing as anyone else on the team.

MWO is unplayable without a premade

potatoes are so dumb they may as well be on the enemy team, except then they'd actually do their job and help your team win

>>165537401
Mayhaps they could give single HS omnis a cooling superquirk so that they are halfway or even more than halfway towards double heatsink performance. Or just straight up give them doubles in performance but technically still using single heat sinks. A complete cheat to allow them to be viable in this game's meta.

Nobody is seriously going to mind and gold men are probably more than willing to give up porting accuracy for the ability to use their favorite shitmechs in anything other than private stock-only matches.

>>165544364
I wonder if the work on Inverse Kinematics could also be inverted to work with the collision detection and finally make stompy robots interact with the ground like stompy robots. As it is, they are still very tall tanks with a flat contact surface touching and rolling across the ground, just like every game before this.

Wonder if MW5 can solve this problem if not MWO.

>>165546046
Or they could just give all omnimechs chemo to remove locked equipment and heatsink cancer, and make heatsinks upgradeable.

>>165546247
So you'd prefer the option where you have to spend more money to make an omnimech good and also completely destroy any reason to have more than the most meta omnimechs available, as opposed to the option where you have build variety and free built-in upgrades?

>>165544795
But you said it yourself, they're Canadian, don't call them Asain that's not fair to Asians.

>>165546506
I'd prefer to have some omnimechs like shit lynx, warcuck and exe not be choking on a million cocks by default.
>8 tons of nonfunctioning JJs
>locked heatsinks, locked heatsinks everywhere
>A FUCKING ACTIVE PROBE

What's a nice fast as fuck Medium/Heavy Mech that has a nice dead side OR can still fuck shit up fairly well even if it loses one good side?

My favorite Mech is the 12 SPL Stormcrow which fits this description,
I've also played the Shadow Cat (locked JJs suck, gimped too much if it loses a side),
Ebon Jaguar (too wide/slow, limited twisty),
Griffin (was alright really great, only disliked the IS XL),
Catapult (2012 was good times),
Cicada (meh), Jenner (brittle),
and IS Hunch (swayback was godlike until August 2012, then it was never the same).

>>165546729
IS Marauder.

>>165546675
>warhawk bad
t. tier 4.5

Stop trying to make a primarily ballistic Warhawk without the Hero parts you retard.

>>165547132
Warhawk is genuinely bad and is not much better than Gargoyle tier, it does nothing better than other Assaults except pretend it's a Dire Wolf with no weapons

>>165547132
>warhawk is not shit
t. hasn't even played the game

Late 3050s to Early 3060s IS weapons that will have the most impact on the meta:

ER Medium Lasers (3058): Many smaller mechs rely on having a brace of medium lasers as their sole armament, occasionally with extra pulse lasers to avoid ghost heat. The problem is that with that kind of loadout you are often doing only half damage with every poke on most maps because the fight refuses to close the distance. With ER versions the mechs might not be able to shoot as much but their versatility goes through the roof. 396 meters with a module is not all that far away from the range of a standard large laser. The Pig may also give it less heat generation than expected to balance them versus their superior Clan counterparts. Pixies might see more use because they can take a bigger engine than a Blackjack while having 6 ER MLAS.

MRMs (3058): For mechs with a lot of missile hardpoints but not enough speed and/or durability, this is an excellent alternative to LRMs to make them competitive in the direct fire market. Slower projectiles but higher damage per ton.

Rotary AC/5s (3062): It's 6 AC/5s strapped together, each. This will probably be toned down in various ways including lowering its overall fire rate from 6, making it fire lots of low damage projectiles like a Clan UAC on crack, giving it some random spread to emulate the source material, or any combination of the above. Still, even if it is less powerful than expected its still an incredible DPS hose that will compare favorably to the old standby AC/20s with much more range and flexibility for the low tonnage it requires. Many players may find themselves switching their mechs from triple AC/5s or UAC/5s to just twin RAC/5s for double to triple the damage output with several tons to spare, which is really ridiculous when you think about it. The only downside is needing to turn your mech into a walking bomb with all the ammo it needs to function, especially if random inaccuracy is chosen as one of the balancing factors.

>>165548167
>yfw mauler or king crab boating RAC2

>>165548167
or light ppc's with the range profile of a LLAS but slightly more dmg and heat and no minimum range..

atm's would be plain nasty in mwo. lrms with shorter range but stupidly tight non-spread switchable into direct fire nuke mode ala streaks except much longer range

>yfw heavy pepsi is introduced with TT stats but the clam one stays how it is

>>165548792
>heavy pepsi AND ppc capacitor introduced but clan ppc says the same with the shitty splash
>they also implement energy draw with the retarded fucking system still accounting the splash damage for the clan ppc instead of being 1:1 pinpoint like the IS ones

>>165548763
>>165548792
>>165548901
Problem with advanced PPC variants is that they are 3067 Civil War technology, so it is a bit of a stretch to expect them in the first wave of new weapons in MWO. Rotary ACs are as early as it gets for 3060 technology. We will most probably only see the new pre-3060 equipment added to the IS side for the first iteration of this new move, so ER lasers, MRMs and Streak SRMs.

Also Heavy Pepsi really is heavy and huge. They will be blown out as often as the smaller ACs and LRM launchers. A Clan mech can manage two CERPPC and two CLPL just fine but an IS mech will struggle with fully canonical twin HPPC. We already got heat buffs to our PPCs, remember?

Clams finally get the LAMS.

1t no ammo needed infinite missile destructor.

Memeguns get even better by being banked like they're supposed to be. 3 for IS and 5 for clams.

Oh hey, does this mean clams get erlpl?

>>165550008
llas pl with erppc range and heat?

>>165549946
>shadowcat with 8 memegun arrays

>>165550259
Obliterdakka

>>165549946
>Memeguns get even better by being banked
What did you mean by this?
How do the array rules work?

>>165550008
ER pulse lasers are all universally worse than their originals. However since MWO doesn't directly simulate weapon (in)accuracy...

>>165550483
The way MG arrays work has no effect in this game. They are supposed to make linked MGs roll to hit a single location as if they were all one weapon. However it might be a way to get around hardpoint limits in MWO by allowing multiple MGs to be assigned to a single ballistic slot for the cost of a 0.5 "link".

If the link gets destroyed on the tabletop all MGs continue to function but cannot fire as one anymore but in MWO there should be no effect unless they think of something.

>>165550483
They're really fucking good at gritting since a bank of 3'd do only very slightly more DMG than now for balance. But 3 projectiles is 3 crit chances. 5 is 5 etc.

And 5 do more DMG again.

The balance is that you'd actually have to burst fire them because 4 clam mg banks would blast out 20 rounds per 'shot' so you'd empty your ammo really fast. This would also make them.be used for their lore / TT / previous use of anally devastating open components.

>>165550881
>The balance is that you'd actually have to burst fire them because 4 clam mg banks would blast out 20 rounds per 'shot' so you'd empty your ammo really fast
Could just bring more ammo, honestly MGuns are extremely ammo light currently, 1 ton is already enough for 3 of them and then some.

>HLL
>3.5 sec beam duration
Calling it now

Plasma cannon bombast laser and rail cannon when?
Superheavies when?

>>165551045
>the point of bringing bigger, heavier, more damaging weapons is that they do a bigger chunk on a single location
>piggy COMPLETELY INVERSES THIS so boating smaller less damaging weapons is always more accurate, and big weapons like large lasers and big ultras spread more damage and AC20/UAC20 has shit ass projectile speed that would be like +2 to hit on TT or something
Fucking bravo

>>165549831

You forgot Heavy lasers and Xpulse.

>>165551045

HLL are known for short range, I doubt they'd slap a beam duration on it. Probably just a lot of ghost heat.

>>165552063
>implying it wouldnt have at least a 1.3s beam duration to match the hell that is ER LLs, AND range penalties, AND spoopy spice

>>165552123

There is no point in that, beam duration would do absolutely nothing since you're supposed to brawl with them any way.

>>165552392
1.3s is the difference between a good torso twist and taking 45 damage to the CT
If they fuck up HLLs it will matter

>>165552392
And assault mechs are supposed to be able to take damage and their heatsink power is supposed to keep up with their firepower, LRMs are supposed to be a functioning weapon, larger lasers are supposed to do more concentrated damage than smaller ones, ultra shitcannon 20s aren't supposed to be 12-ton machinegun arrays, streak SRMs are supposed to be straight up more effective than normal SRMs instead of a downgrade that weights more, and clan ppcs are supposed to be 15 pinpoint.

This is piggy's madhouse we're talking about here.

Imagine all the shitmechs that could become minimally viable if MRMs and ATMs made it into the game in a usable state.

>>165553474
No

>>165553474
>maulers with shoulders
>huelanders become an alpha powerhouse
>king crabbies may sometimes utilize their left torso now without being the most useless mech on their team
>dangerous onions
>missile based archers and catapults actually fighting from range as intended
>WVR-7D(L) no longer the worst loyalty mech in the game

>THE ZOOSE IS LOOSE

>>165554176
Zeus with MRM godhand
It's habbening

>>165554287
MRMs will probably fire in streams.
Not even bursts, just a constant slow stream of shit that some lights will be able to outrun backwards.

>>165486212
I wish they would make Battletech toys again.

I had the Mauler as a kid. I'd love for something in the 1/160ish scale to sit right next to my Gundam MSIAs.

>>165555028
The game has to take off for that to make sense. Right now it's just old men buying TT figures for their TT.

>>165553474
>MRMs

Mixed loadout pieces of shit like Dragons, Orions, Zeus, Highlanders and Victors would benefit greatly from this weapon system. Having essentially 3 ton (plus ammunition) large laser to add to their 2-3 existing energy weapons and 1-2 ballistics gives them a nice boost in ranged firepower.

For example, a Highlander 732 could run a gauss rifle, 3x large lasers and 3x MRM10's for a 72 point alpha strike at 500 meters.

That weapon system is said to function like a laser due to the way the missiles stream out in rapid succession (think of plain horizontal clan LRMs) but I've got a feeling piggy would add a little bit of spread to them.

>ATMs
Yuck. Take more tons than clan streaks or SRMs with artemis, require different types of ammunition to make full use of (otherwise why did you bring these?) and deal less damage than both.

And if you want high precision weaponry at range, why didn't you bring a laser or ballistic mech, you fucking retard?

>>165555934
>Yuck. Take more tons than clan streaks or SRMs with artemis
Which is irrelevant for mechs with few hardpoints and overabundance of tonnage.
>require different types of ammunition to make full use of
Not really.
>and deal less damage than both
Same damage per missile with standard ammo with more damage per hardpoint with the biggest one
Plus the main reason is their range is half again that of SRMs with standard ammo.

>>165555934
>Yuck. Take more tons than clan streaks or SRMs with artemis, require different types of ammunition to make full use of (otherwise why did you bring these?) and deal less damage than both.
Imagine a clan shitlander stuffed to the brim with ATM launchers that can be used to lurm at long ranges and to alpha for a gorillion of HE ammo damage at point blank, missile launchers would almost be useful.

Imagine if Ice Ferret was good and had more than 8 tons of weapon tonnage to work with
That would be such a great Mech!!

Guys is MWO p2w?

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>>165558729
No, the best mech in the game, the Ice Ferret, is out for cbills.

>>165556938
And suddenly you have no tonnage for other weapons or supplementary equipment. Great. You took 15-20 tons of weapons to deal spread damage.

>>165559909
>putting this much effort into autistic shitposting
wew

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Battletech and Living Legends > MWO and MW5

not even up for debate

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>>165561684
>Battletech > anything

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>>165562260
What did you imply by this?

>>165560176

M-m-muh versatility. Muh bracket build guns.

>>165562723
kys

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>>165554801

The MRM has a fire mode, Stream or glob of missiles. However we do not know if PGI would or could code that in.

>>165563762
Just like LBX ammo

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Liek a Truck

>>165563762
What mech is that thing

>>165571049
orion

>>165571363

Ye old onion.

Why are spls so fun?

>>165572630
Because light weight, pinpoint damage, relatively heat efficient
Only thing that beats it is AC20s if AC20s were light and good

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>>165559909
>344 dmg per kill
>good

>>165573763
He's a shitter, just ignore him
He'll never understand why the Shadow Cat is better

Do you think the new weapons are going to cause a big shift in the Scat vs Icebox meta?

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Full res High Roller.

>>165575351
Don't care for the paint job but damn that mech is sexy.

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>RACs on bushwanker

>>165576932
>RACs
That's Civil War tech, 2022 at the earliest.

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>>165577376
B-but they've said 3060+ in the roadmap.

>>165575351
Really not liking how fuck-huge those arms are, that right arm is thicker than the center torso.

>>165575351
What's the point of trying to make a mech aesthetic if they all have cancer anyway?

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>>165575351

Impressive cancer.

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Hunchback with gauss and 3 medium lasers, is it viable in any sense?

>>165579347
It's don't.

>>165579420
fug

What's the most energy hardpoints you can get on an IS mech?

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>>165579574
9 energy hardpoints

Hunchback HBK-4P
Thunderbolt Top Dog
Warhammer WHM-6D
Black Knight BL-6B-KNT
Black Knight BL-7-KNT

>>165581275
How is 3x LPL + 6x ML? Too warm, just right?

>>165581275
Is Warhammer in general good?
I want an IS heavy to round out my spheroid lineup but they all seem shit oin one way or another.

i had a dream of a gyroscoped enabled mw game, the missles were tight and compact, I was on the move in a artic-cheata zooming through the air and blasting pve combat. i wish i never woke up

God, building IS shitmechs after playing only clam for a while is such a chore.
No matter how many meme weapons the update bring IS will never be fun with 3-space dubs and exploding sides.

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when

>>165513015
UZIEL AND SOLITAIRE PLEASE

>>165582082
Get a Marauder.

The MAD-3R is fucking dope. The hero is pretty good too.

>>165586134
If the Marauder is dope then why isn't it on Gman's tier lists??

>>165585485
Uziel is the kind of mech you wish for without thinking about how it would perform once it's in the MWO ruleset

When does Argus come out
I loved that shit in MW4, nothing like RACs, SRMs and a few lasers to round it out

>see UAC-10 Kodiak in my face
>have a fit of laughter because 'lmao pig snout'
>get shot
every time

>>165585485
>>165587485

Also Uziel makes all the purists buttmad and I already have to put up with a lot of people bitching about this game.

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>>165585485
>>165587485
>>165588653

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Why can't pgi?

>>165589342
Living Legends has this

>>165589342
Why can't PGI make a mediocre game that makes money only because of brand loyalty and the idiocy of its fanbase?
Uh...

>>165589342
What did he meme by this?

benis

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>>165588653
What are they still salty that Microsoft introduced new Mechs into MW4 that were later canonized and became popular when literally every Mech design in the series that wasn't taken from other sources is just random artists coming up with their own designs and being canonized because they were on commission?

>>165595335

Pretty much.

DANE?

You're a small guy

>>165597603
It's already hit 150 now. How will Mechwarrior Online ever recover?

ded

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>>165575351

It's literally the toy..

>>165575351

>Nikolai Malthus ERMLL hero mech WHEN FUCK!

>>165602662
>summoner with 10 energy hardpoints in the legs when

>>165602518
The toy that somehow got THICC legs.

>>165602991
Stalker says hi

>>165604096
Hellbringer says hi

>>165604812
He don't got the THICCCCC waddle

>>165605745
Still the biggest thickest thigh to tonnage ratio

>>165589616
>>165590023
>>165591174
I think he might be referring to the way how the aiming and reticule works? I dunno, we already have that kind of aiming. It's just relatively rare and complex for an FPS.

>>165564205
No mechwarrior game has done lbx Right. They never fire their lbx canister shots. They always make them retarded shotguns instead.

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Why aren't you playing Living Legends? You can even play as Battle Armor - WOW!

>>165612867
Eric pls.

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>>165612948
But who is eric?

>>165612867
what is living legends?
we play em dubya oh here

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You merely adopted the autocannons. I was born in them. Molded by them.

>>165613839
Mechwarrior game, mod of Crysis. Considered the best MW game.

It has Battle Armor, Artillery, Mechs, Tanks and Aerospace.

It doesn't have any progression or mechlab, however.

Or perhaps they're wondering why you would shoot piss streams, before jamming for a century.

>>165612497
MW3 LBXs functioned exactly as they were supposed to.

>>165614621
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>165614134

>Considered the best MW game.

No.

>>165616478
>Best
Mechcommander, MW3, Living Legends

>Great

MW4, MW2

>Good

Online, Mechwarrior (Japan)

>Not worth playing

Mechwarrior (English)

>>165616478
Well, obviously the best MW game was MW4. Anyone who says otherwise is just delusional or trolling.

>>165616847
>mw4 was my first mechwarrior

>>165616847
>good taste detected
you mah nigga

>>165613848
what is the closest thing in MWO?
I need more dakka in my life

>>165618147
Back when MW3 was played online, one of the most common things to play was unlimited ammo ice maps with 3 clan UAC20s on heavies (avatar/thor), or 2 clan UAC20s on mediums (bushwacker.)

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>>165615701

>>165619487
kek
this game has better animations than MWLL

>>165619487
>>165619902

MW3 is still my favorite. Hopefully someone with way more dedication and knowledge than me will find a way to get it running on modern systems.

>>165619902
Wrong

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>>165619902

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>shitty fucking frozen city again
>our team moves to enemy side of map
>their team comes to our original side
>5 - 10 minute Mexican standoff once again
>mother fuckers will vote for this map next time and do the same thing again

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>Revelator 2 coming "Soon(tm)"
>it's going to be DLC "maybe, possibly, we're not sure yet"
>desire for videogames at an all-time low

what's going on with robots lately, I feel so out of the loop after MRBC ended

>>165623215
Mechwarrior Living Legends is back baby

>>165623403
how much did they actually fix, because the last time it "came back" they didn't actually fix anything

>>165623515
mothing, but it has 200 players now.

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>>165623215
Hol up

we're getting ANOTHER guilty gear?

Does the ride never end?

I can't stop playing the 2x clan UAC2 1x flamer badder B.

And I'm having fun.

Send help!

>>165624289
>Does the ride never end
>when the roster is still missing characters

never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uIH1fI0LBg
MOTTO MOTTO!

>>165624289
>>165624964
TATAMI TATAMI TATAMI

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>>165624964
>still no zappa or robo-ky
at least we're getting bacon now

>>165625816
There's still time, shit was literally just announced.

Also
>new moves for existing characters
>more Story Mode

So after a lot of double goose meta shit, I've got my niggyrs mastered. I'm wanting a change of pace.

What are some good SRM focused mechs/builds?

>>165627319
>change of pace
jenner oxide?

>>165628823
Didn't the rescale sort of fuck with Jenners though? Or are they still worth running?