/scg/edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous general 97

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https://www.artstation.com/artist/neuro

>>165289045
>Filename

What does it make me think about?

>>165289045
really rustles my jimmies

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Today's Star Citizen leaks courtesy of TheAgent.

backers will be able to "early access" (alpha test) the sqlude
this will be considered the "preview" release version (mvp I guess)
this will also count as the first episode
in order to alpha test other episodes/content, backers will have to pay
SQ42 is "tied deeply" into SC techwise/network
currently no plans for completely offline play
ships, skins and other cash shop items cross over game modes
"original vision" (internally called OV or CV?) candidate sometime in 2019 with promised sq42 feature list


and in wtf news

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SQ42 is cancelled. It has become a series of single player missions folded directly into Star Citizen. This acts as the tutorial and early character creation. Any other news about Squadron 42 is fake or uninformed. This change has been considered since late-2015 and the final decision was made mid-2016.


and since this is all p dire have some more leaks from 100% confirmed sources

3.0 will release sometime in late Feb 2017
all 3 episodes of SQ42 will be out before citcon
4.0 is coming along very well, I've played it several times and its amazing
planetary landings in cities will make you want to jizz over a custom built star citizen branded hotas
procgen tech is unlike anything anyone has ever seen ever by anyone
I hate chris roberts
I am derek smart
I collect paychecks from EA
I am so gay
I only play on consoles because I don't own a PC
I am jealous of everyone at CIG/RSI
I won't know what to do when chris roberts proves me and my ilk totally wong [sic]

give it to me straight doc

will elite ever be fun

>>165289045

REDEEMER STATUS: FUCKING DEAD

>>165289680
No.

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Why are goon memes so shit is because they are all over 40?

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/25JZJ

New Levski pictures

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>>165289045
Finally.

>>165289692
Good riddance. They better replace it with something that doesn't look like shit.

>>165291805
>Hoplite

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if it were not for the enemy markers I would have been firing blind at the first guy, and probably would not have seen the second guy at all. if they get rid of the markers now they may change significantly how the game plays thanks to how much the players blend into the map.

>>165289045
RIPdeemer, feel bad for people who bought one expecting it to be finished some day.
I'm actually glad the anti redeemer fag will shut up now maybe.
interesting that Paul will be working on I assume 2077. maybe he'll drop us some secrets once in a while.

>>165291805
they can't just replace it, people paid real money for it. there's probably some ass out there who has it as their only ship. they have to make it fly at the very least, my guess is they'll just shit out a 'first pass' and never fix it like so many others.

>>165292237
People can exchange it for any other ship of the same value. Just give them Aquila and they can CCU to whatever they want from there.

Hell, I suspect overwhelming majority of Redeemer owner has already CCU'd long time ago.

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Hair when?

>>165292814
give her a year or two anon
>>165292730
still pretty shitty of them to let a ship just die in the hangar like that, no matter what anyone thinks of it now. it went through a rigorous process and came out on top, if they scrap it they have to acknowledge TNGS was a huge waste of time and money.

>dumb faggots think the redeemer won't be finished

retards

Can you guys stop making generals here once the game gets cancelled next year?

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>>165294121
Jokes on you. We are so close!

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>>165294121
That's a pretty mean thing to say about Elite: Dangerous.

>>165294236
Context?

>>165294317
Star Citizen will be released soon, not cancelled.

>>165294386
On the pic I mean.

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still not sure how I feel about grenades

>>165294478
Seems fine, especially the second one.

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>>165294478
on the other hand...

>>165294440
Something posted not long ago, he threw the monitor on the floor and stamped on it. It was probably beyond repair so they made an ebin meme.

>>165294706
Oh, I thought he was pissed at the developer and let out his anger on the monitor.

>>165294440
>>165294706
Poor monitor paid the price for a failure in programming by a person.

>>165290431
>Why are goon memes so shit is because they are all over 40?
the games forum has always hosted the sites stupidest users. a lot of them are also child rapists.

I just tried the Rattlers for the first time since before 2.0, it seems like they don't even have the submunitions any more. are there any fun unique missile types?

>>165289045
Someone explain why everyone is replying to this post? Did he do something wrong?

>>165298984
Deepest lore

>>165298437
B..but I like Rattlers. They are very reliable and hit pretty hard for a class 2. I get more hits with them than the Dominators on my Cutass.

>>165298984
he made the Redeemer. he also used to lurk here.

>>165298984
He shat out the Redeemer, which is of questionable quality regardless of whether you like the design, got hired by CIG and proceeded to fuck up the Vanguard and 85x. Now he finally quit and the remaining concepts are safe from his influence.
I feel bad for whatever the players of CD project's cyberpunk game will have to endure though.

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>>165299107
they're fine as a missile, but it seems like they just gave up on the original concept, which was that the shot out a pile of little needle minimissiles that softened up the shields before the main impact. they have absolutely never worked as advertised, but at least they were trying to figure it out. I'll be sad if they've said fuck it and made them just another S2.

>>165299172
In Witcher 3, your sword wears out for basically no reason other that to keep you spending money on it. Senseless decisions, as shown in the Retaliator, are CDPR's bread and butter.

>>165299172
Vanguard and 85x "problems" are a) completely subjective and b) entirely due to design, which he probably had no part in as a low level asset modeler. CR or Ben would have given the edict that so many Aegis ships be slapped together from Retaliator parts, and that the 85x get a makeover and become all rounded and sleek.

so plasma accelerator or railgun on a viper mk4?

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>>165299107
what they do now btw. difficult to get a good shot of it thanks to the retarded missilecam

>>165299489
>shot out a pile of little needle minimissiles that softened up the shields before the main impact

Sounds interesting. I had not heard that before. Maybe something will come of that later after Item 2.0 when we have more control over shields and ships power.

I wonder if Paul had to sign an NDA not to share anything about his experience at CIG.

>need info

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>>165299828
>not using size 3 missiles.
>not trolling in the only legit troll boat in the game.

>>165298984
>Did he do something wrong?
Yeah, he made the Redeemer

>>165300109
>size 3 missiles on an LN
enlighten me

>>165299887
if you look at your ship in the hangar with them mounted you can actually see the little sub-missile heads poking out the nose

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>>165300827
>423 mount
>your choice of two size 3 missiles
>laffs and laffs and laffs

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>>165301163
>missile pickups mean you never actually have to run out
I might just buy that rack with UEC

>>165301272
Which is the worst part of the new powerup bullshit

Right now in AC you fit the largest shit you have because rather than refilling % of your racks it refills 2-3 max.

No diversity of loadouts, no smaller missiles because it makes the pickups mean less

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>>165301272
I double checked by doing the not retarded thing of using REC, which is what you should do still works.

>>165301727
that means I have to rebuy them frequently though

I have like 30k UEC, how much can it be

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>>165299041
>Redeemer.
>>165299131
>>165299172
>>165300143
Im watching a YouTube video of the Redemeer. I don't have the game yet but I want to know what's wrong with it, it looks ok?

>>165301973
No, missiles are one-time buys

>>165301973
Hard to say, but your stuck with it if the meta changes due to fuckheads like me abusing it and getting the dads stirred up.

Mount is 600 REC and Viper 3 are 1400 REC for 10.

>>165302179
I'm talking about the rack. I would have to re-rent both it and the missiles on a regular basis. are missiles really one-time use when you buy them with UEC? hasidic as fuck

>>165302320
One time BUY

>>165302290
that is junkyard cheap, is the UEE ancap paradise or what

>>165302320
Depends. How long do you think they will let the LN carry that much firepower before they nerf it because reasons?

So how has Star Citizen been improving lately?

I haven't looked at it in years.

>>165303009
>Years

Public Universe is slowly expanding, Star Marine, and Arena Commander/Racing.

>>165303330
I suppose I should have said "a year" instead.

Do people still have the same concerns about the game being vaporware and/or a failure or have those been mitigated at all?

I looked at some of the recent videos and it seemed like there was a decent amount of stuff out there now on the public universe.

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>>165303534
>Vaporware

Only shitposters, because vaporware means any game you literally cannot play.

>>165303534
>have those been mitigated at all?
reality has done nothing to convince the most staunchly anti-kickstarter and fags looking for the next TORtanic. I hold some faint hope 3.0 with full procedural planets and a bit of an economy will change that, but they will always remain.

I sometimes drop into /v/ threads and post webms of gameplay, every time someone loses their mind when they realize /v/ has been lying to them about the state of the game; it usually gets equated with NMS. Last time it happened I even snagged a referral.

>>165302487
game needs some more missile variety, high payload dumbfires for ships other than the delta, some remote detonation dumbfire torpedos, etc.

Is one time buy the plan for PU missiles? That would be very disappointing, from an economic perspective

this times loremakers guide of the galaxy was quite enjoyable.
3.0 when
PLS
WHEN DOES CR RELEASE SC
I AM DYING

>>165304174
there's a fucked up tiered system where you can rent stuff and get so many uses out of it, buy it and get unlimited use out of it, (both of these currently still require paid restocking unless you respawn the whole ship) and in the future you will be able to buy components in game directly and apparently insure them, which should replace what we have now.

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>>165302320
>>165302443
It works so fucking well. It's a little different than what I thought. You have to be less than 1000m so you can get a hit before they launch flares, and sometimes you only get one missile with a reload. But goddamn is it ever satisfying when you ripple fire on a Sabre and he sees an Aurora on his screen for the killer.

With a little practice, this is fucking devastation in a glass bottle. An Aurora can turn with a Hornet or Sabre if you use boost correctly. Just get behind someone for an easy missile shot and make them count.

Three problems I have found are you have to be really close to make it count, resupply is tricky if no one died close to you, and it's a meme tactic. Hornetfags and Sabrefags are not going to like getting put down by some asshole in an Aurora, so I wonder if it will last.

>>165304174
No it's not. There just isn't the economy yet in the PU or Arena Commander.

What's a good shield rating for a Cobra mk3? I'm at like 120 and I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
>inb4 dad ship
Been playing a week calm down.

>>165304739
nice I'll have to get on this meme train when my rattlers expire

>>165305660
I don't know which size 3 is best. Viper III are 800, but Arrester III and Thunderbolt III are 2800. Someone must have fucked up the Viper price, or Arrester is a much better heat seeker, for some reason. Tbolt may be the way to go, since chaff is garbage.

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I've been away from SC lately, so whats the verdict on Star Marine? from what I've seen, people seem to enjoy it

>>165307268
Is alright, needs work of course.

>>165307268
I'm waiting for 3.0 and dat sweet netcode.

>>165307268
if they would turn on the rest of the fucking servers 90% of the problems would disappear, but it has a couple retarded design decisions. one small patch could fix it though, and it's fun regardless

>>165303868
That's good to hear.

I'm pretty excited about it. I've been desperately wanting a new space game with an expansive universe for years.

Star Citizen seems to be chugging along despite its hitches in development and the enormous scope of the project.

Elite Dangerous is nice in many ways, but also severely lacking in depth. I think they could improve the game greatly in time, but I'm worried they'll run out of money before then and collapse.

>>165307381
>>165307534
>>165307268
>>165307772
Besides the netcode, its as "tactic" as Chris promised or its just COD?

>>165307958
COD. When/if they add peaking (I think they're adding leaning) it should be slower and more tactical. Also when the TTK is lowered when netcode works better.

>>165307958
Once the markers are gone and it's the actual game, it will be tactical as fuck. With the markers and stupid grenades, it's just meh on its own.

>>165307958
all they need to do to make it tactical is lower TTK. right now it's run and gun, because you have enough health to just bug out of many encounters.

>>165308330
Health and the insta full heal epi pens

>>165308467
they could be worse, it would be better though it all they did was stop bleed out, rather than reset you to full health

>>165308095
They have a whole fancy procedural cover system planned in the long run

>>165308625
Yeah I know. Though I prefer some basic leaning and peaking that doesn't require you attached to cover. It's in the keybinds right now but I'm not sure if it even works.

>>165308728
>>165308095
P E E K I N G

>>165309005
I don't know why I turned retarded for those two posts.

>>165309005
D U C K

>>165299608
>you sword wears out for no reason

it wears out because monsters are hard and also as a penalty for getting blocked all the time. git gud.

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How about a single size 4?

I wonder how much more damage size 4 has, also EM lock so no flares.

>>165311573
Why is the radar ball so fuckhuge?

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>>165311712
I'm not sure, but I know that one size 4 is objectively better than two size 3.

>Always refill 100% on restock.
>Can one shot a Mustang at full health.
>Can finish off almost any damaged ship guaranteed.
>Radar lock will hit from far away.
>Comically large missile makes the ship look fucking awesome.

Fuck it, this game just got good again. I'm in my Aurora for now.

>>165311573
I want to mount one on my 85x.
Right on the underside mount so it slams into the ships downsloped chin when fired.

>>165307787

>I think they could improve the game greatly in time

Elite is broken on a fundamental level by trying to please everyone. You can't have a multiplayer "MMO" game while also allowing people to play solo. You can't have meaningful exploration while making absolutely everything procedurally generated. You can't have players making an impact on the game while forbidding bare essentials like player trading and player-owned FUCKING ANYTHING other than just our ships. And you most certainly can't have an interesting story and, again, players impacting that story, when you pump out fanfiction-tier storytelling while railroading everyone into what you want regardless of what they do, with garbage like Powerplay and their worthless CGs that amount to "bring this many to the station" or "kill this many bad guys."

I wouldn't hold my breath on them collapsing from running out of money, either.

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>>165314163

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>>165314378
We can always dream

>>165314163
Sometimes you wonder, what is Sandro doing all day? He should be coming up with new mission concepts and designs every goddamn day that the dev team can implement, yet the most ED has gotten in a year is passenger missions.

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>>165314378
>>165314498
Just go through the steps anon

>>165315025
There's more stages than that anon and I'm well past them.

>Realization
>Hatred
>Revenge
>Moving on

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>>165315741
>This accuracy

Shit.

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Speaking of ED.
Was this fleet always above Palin's lab in Maia?

Is there any way to smuggle as a newbie in ED?
Most guides and stuff I've read either is incredibly outdated or require reputation or similar.

>>165314498
this sucks, what I would have done is make engineer's require only money to do an upgrade but make it longer and more interesting to do things with the engineers.

You start off with a basic discovered engineer when you get any of your pilot ranks to 3.

You fly to that engineer and they say they'll help you but you gotta do some jobs for them. You get a mini story line mission for them, that'd be like 20 missions long and could be anything from scrounging USS for salvage, to hunting down rivals, sabotaging their land bases, stealing goods from their convoys, picking them up some commodities or materials and what not. Just keep it fresh and hopefully voice acted, each engineer favors more of a certain type of mission. It'd be about 20 missions total, every 5 missions your blueprints get upgraded.

Reduce the number of engineers to like 5

1 for FSD, engines, powerplants, and distributors (this is the one you'd start with)

1 for shield generators, shield boosters, shield cell banks, armor and hull packages.

1 for basic weapons, pulse lasers, beam laser,s multi-cannons, burst lasers, frag cannons

1 for heavy weapons, rail guns, canons, plasma accelerators, missiles, torpedos

1 for other utility mounted modules, mining lasers, and non combat internals like refineries, racks, limpets.

When you finish each engineers story line you basically have full access to the best shit that engineer can make.

Modding, same roulette system but it costs you credits now to start a roll

150k for grade 1
500k for grade 2
820k for grade 3
1.1m for grade 4
1.5m for grade 5

I'd keep a similar favor system but make it more interesting, he does a favor for you for free once to tune your thing for an experimental upgrade. But if you wanted another favor like that you have to do a special favor mission. Each favor mission gives you 3 favors and you can only do one favor mission a day. You can request a favor on an previously engineered modules.

That's it, that fixes them.

>>165317732
Smuggling takes only 2 things.
Cargo space and jump range.
Get a ship with the jump and cargo you want (A rated ASPX is great at that) and jump system to system. The only part where smuggling differs from trading is station approach. Just line up while in supercruise with the planet the station's orbiting at your back, so to end up facing the mailslot out of supercruise.
Then silent run and boost through the mailslot. Try not to impale yourself on the back of the station.

>>165317906
I think I have an idea about what ship to use and how to outfit.
Where do I pick missions though.

>>165318003
Around the galaxy. I think boom states have a higher chance of generating smuggling missions? Not sure.

>>165318081
>Around the galaxy.
Are there not like hubs, or maybe an area with systems more prone to grant smuggling missions?

>>165318003
Systems with low or no security probably generate them more. Anarchy governments may help too.

>>165314163
You can have meaningful exploration in a procedural universe, but for that to happen the player needs agency in that universe. Currently there is no reason to do anything other than for the sake of doing it. This won't be fixed because the people who have frontier's ear are idiots who think introducing tasks and goals on a player or organizational level immediately turn the game into some offspring of call of duty and eve.

Ded gaems

I love they took away commods requirement for engineers. Finally got around to leveling them over the past couple days but its already saved me several dozen hours of farming and travel time. Being able to go from rank 1 to 5 with everything in your hold is so very satisfying.

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Thats a nice caterpillar you've got there........

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>>165322545
That's a nice wasted space you've got there.

Will there be a schedule report this friday? 3.0 at this summer?

>>165289045
that mincing faggot better not fuck up cp2070 with his shit designs. At least his girlboner for neon will sorta fit in that game though.

PUNISHED DAD - A FALLEN HAIR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BxywoHdZik

>>165314378
Really wish I hadn't read that. Makes me yearn for it instead of the needlessly complex, yet entirely pointless, grindy, and punishing system we have now.

Even dads will tell people not to bother with PP. That has to be SOME kind of signal to FDev.

>>165322545
HOL UP
*locks $140 worth of Torpedoes*
YOU
*Ripple fires*
YOU BE SAYIN
*Target taps AB*
HOL THE FUCK UP

>>165329348
>Ripple fire
I've seen this a couple times now, what does it refer to? staggering your m1 and m2 fires for continuous fire?

>>165329664
Memery

Can't ripple fire in this game yet

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>>165329664
Ripple fire is when you release multiple payloads one after another, with one press.

In most modern aircraft you can set how many you want to fire and what interval between them.

>>165330078
oh so just multiple locks
>>165329817
if the above is true then yes you can. you can fire your entire stock in one go in any ship except maybe the retaliator with it's down syndrome loading mechanism

>>165330537
Nah, what we have right now is just dumping all the missiles you have in a single launch.

Ripple fire is one after the other, with a defined interval.

Generally used on rockets.

>>165330601
well depends on the ship's firing mechanism; the constellation fires them all in a row rather than at the same time by necessity. I doubt we'll ever see precisely defined intervals for it

>>165330803
Its mostly something for rockets where you might want to set an RPM

>>165294440

They're trolling D. Smart & Co. by smashing a monitor they got a goodwill.

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>>165302139

>tfw i unironically listen to Super Eurobeat
>tfw i unironically have a eurobeat sticker on my 90's shitbox

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>>165332108
you bet your ass the first car I buy when I finally get my driver's license is a twingo which I'll plaster in WAT racing stickers and eurobeat weeb shit

I simply don't give a fuck

any updated rare commodities trade route map?

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>>165302139
Engaging warp 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFx4g_P2kCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_UC3agrzBc

>>165336170
Can't waittttttttttt

>>165289045

God Bless Earth.

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Don't die on me.
ATV today?

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>>165340483
yes, in like 8 hours

>>165315025
you're missing the reset phase of relapse / patch drop / restored hype that takes you right back to acceptance and never ever ends

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>people waiting for 3.0


HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA implying this shit will ever be released

>>165340849
You forgot to mention Bannerlord.

>>165340964
No need to because: see SC 3.0

NEVER

>>165341571
you say that about every patch

>>165341614
not true

I joined this general shortly before the gamescon in germany last year

and to be hones: Star Marine is absolute shit and brought nothing new

and 3.0 sounds TO GOOD to be true

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You don't need an Anaconda to enjoy the game.
Hi. Yes, this post is a response to that locked thread that is, in my opinion, a thinly veiled attempt to "get everything for free".

I completely disagree with the sentiment that there is a grind in this game.

If you're chasing these massive, expensive ships, then there's a few things I'd like to say.

Firstly, do you need an Anaconda? No, you don't. Every new player I get into the game, I have to spend a good half hour explaining why the Anaconda =/= enjoyment of the game. It's a reward. You're meant to earn it. If you didn't need to earn it then what would be the point of any of the game existing? What would be the point of RES's, missions, mining, exploration, etc.? That's right, there would be none.

Yet I know several players who just "want that Annie nao!!!"

As some of you may know, I'm not exactly inexperienced with this game in general. My forum profile alone should show you just how dedicated to the game that I am. I wouldn't make the best part of 8,000 posts if I didn't like the game at least.

So I think I'm qualified to say that ALL ships are enjoyable. In fact, after the Cobra Mk III, my absolute favourite, the next in the list is a Sidewinder! I love that thing! Closely followed by the Eagle. I've been playing Elite since GPP came out on the Xbox One platform, and I've never had enough to buy anything bigger than an Asp. Why? Because I'm too busy having fun.

What I'm about to say is likely to attract some dismay from some, criticism even, but as I'm being perfectly polite, I have no worries for what I'm about to say

LATEST INSIDER SCOOPS

TheAgent (man on the inside looking at the abyss outside from the inside) is back with more outrageous insider scoops.

Let’s start with the most outrageous one.

Went out drinking with a friend last night..

“We are, we do! Work towards something. We work hard at making progress. We do! But that progress is changed every week. Every day sometimes. How can anything ever be finished if entire teams of employees are retasked at any moment? People lose momentum. You lose sight of what the project is. It just becomes one unfinished thing after another. One of Roberts’ lackeys tells you to drop something, you do. Then two weeks later Roberts is screaming at some poor guy because he did as he was told. “Not by me.” That’s the response you hear a lot from Roberts.”

“The best one, absolutely, deals with [a brand new employee]. It’s his, what, third day? He’s in the break room and Roberts storms in but is real quiet. Pulls the guy out and walks him in front of some other workstation. “What is this?” Roberts goes. The new guy, right outta college, is shitting himself. What could Roberts mean? Was something wrong with the desk? Was this where he’s supposed to be sitting? He’s got no idea.

“You know what this costs? You’re taking my time, everyone’s time,” and now Roberts is shouting, “it’s like you don’t care how much you’re costing us. Do you like spending my money?” Chris stands there, arms crossed, waiting for a response.

[The new guy] is scared stupid. He starts blubbering and apologising without having any idea what’s going on, right?

Chris points to the chair, “Sit your ass down and get it right.” He then storms off again. Poor guy has no idea what the fuck to do.

Turns out Chris thought he was [completely different employee]. He never apologised. Never went back to check if anything was fixed. [New guy] quit by week three.”

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>>165342254
>man on the inside looking at the abyss outside from the inside

>>165342024
I don't think FD wants, by design, that many players achieving "end-game" ships, like the Anaconda, Corvette, or Cutter. Hear me out, and know I'm not saying that you shouldn't aim for those ships. If you want to put in the work, then you're entitled to do so.

But I think FD has always envisioned the big ships to be the reserve of the most dedicated players, hours-wise. Why would they want this? Simple. There are, what, 30-odd ships in the game? Can you imagine how boring it would be if everyone was flying the big three, and the big three only? I think it would be pretty dull.

Instead, we have a "progression system" that ensures that there's always a wide variety of ships being used. And the closest thing we have to official ship number stats, the Inara charts, indicates that it's working. There's a good mix of all the ships, even the Asp Scout!

So yeah, I think FD want to limit the number of huge cruisers flying around, but in a way that makes sense. A big rig in real life costs a fortune. Why would it be any different in a game that aims to simulate an economy?

Like I say, work for the big three if you like. But don't cry "grind is boring". It's not, if you take the time to appreciate the ships along the way. Sadly, some people just want the "best" toys immediately. Those, I have no sympathy for. There's more to the ships then the three "meta-ships".

Just my opinion.

Keep it civil like I have guys. I've been polite about my views, and I'm not slandering anyone. Just voicing my opinion on a current topic.

PS I think the "rank grind" is the way it is to limit the number of Corvettes & Cutters, too.

>>165342254
I need the copypasta where anon meets chris roberts in a grocery store

>>165342473
Boy am I glaid that he's in there while we're out here but he's the Agent and we're in there but I just remembered we're out here but what I wanna know is where's the proofs?

>>165342254
Good news everyone! Job opening at CIG.

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>>165342960

Which would be funnier?

>DS was right, these hilarious leaks are true
>DS was wrong, SC is released as planned and make him look retarded

I saw Chris Roberts at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>165343350
jesus that made me laugh real bad
>inb4 le reddit

>>165288865
which one is the aurora?

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hola hola get dolla

>>165343660
Right in front of the lancer. Fifth from left on front row.

>>165343350
That's the one, thanks

>>165343728
thanks

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>>165341957
>losing it after only 3 months

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>>165344426

>>165344426
Who /OGshitposter/ here?
If your citizen ID is larger than 9999 you have no right to complain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMb914I0YuY

>>165345119
There is probably only a handful of people with a number that low who have ever even come to 4chinz. The chances that there are many of us in this thread at this very moment is pretty damn slim.

>>165345496
but my citizen ID # is only 3 digits long Anon

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>>165345119
Educated men know that citizen ID is only indicative of when you migrated to the new website, so they distinguish themselves with the date of enlistment.

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>>165345838
we can make this a dick waving contest if you want

>>165345721
How does that at all discount what I typed?

>>165346102
If you weren't a newdad from edg you would know there are several scg regulars with IDs that low.

Just because you got onto the gravy train late, doesn't mean everyone else here did too.

>>165345927
>Enlisted a month before the crowdfunding campaign started
Ch-Chris? Is that you?

>>165346296
website sign ups came online in September, right when the game was first pitched at GDC.

Yes, before the crowdfunding had begun, I remember as if it was yesterday.

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>>165345119
>>165345496
>>165345721
Mine is in the 53k range and I backed the very first week of the RSI site campaign and have been coming here since a week or two after that.

>>165341957
And like >>165344426 says if you're whiney and impatient after 3 months literally either refund and fuck off off entirely or just fuck off until proper release. Game development takes time and SC is still not even in the "dragged out development time" range, we have simply been aware of it since far earlier than is usual for a video game.

>>165289597
>SQ42 is cancelled. It has become a series of single player missions folded directly into Star Citizen
so would people get back store credit or what?

>>165347121
Are you taking the fake information seriously or just entertaining it?

>>165347292
>fake information
[citation needed]

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>>165346226
And you?

>>165347328
You retarded dry cunt. TheAgent trip already confirmed to us that everything he says is fake. This was prior to his trip becoming public.

>>165347375
Enlisted Nov 17, 2012

>>165347431
>TheAgent trip already confirmed to us that everything he says is fake
No, a 4chan user with a tripcode, posting unconfirmed rumors and/or DS blog leaks, revealed his tripcode and said he made it up.

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>>165342024
>>165342478
>check the gulag
>it's actually a thing

these people need to be gassed

>>165347545
nice proof

>>165347646
Any time a poster says "Do you need" something, they are to immediately be ignored. Gassed if possible. We don't need them diluting the gene pool any longer.

Where do i reliably find high reward combat missions? Getting real tired of RES. Read something about the edges of the civilized bubble but i don't wanna make a billion jumps for nothing. Combat rank master.

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>>165346430
How does it feel to have been waiting for over 4 years?

Personally I waited 8 years for WoD and then got my heart ripped out and run over by a bulldozer on April 14, 2014. Still makes me cry.

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>>165348074
I'm pretty numb to it at this point.
If Star Citizen came out tomorrow I'd feel the same as if the whole thing was cancelled.

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I-I'm still cool guys, right?

>>165348074
Feels like I know why studios/publishers announce games as "coming soon" when they're basicallly done and ready to ship, because most people aren't patient enough to handle a full AAA game development cycle, after building up studios that didn't exist.

I've been waiting, but I didn't make it the center of my life so its hardly that crushing

>>165347545
>>165347775
I thought as much fuccboi

>>165348835
>Bonnerlord
>personal responsibility

>>165348074
WoD?

>>165348835
>Coming soon

Ayy, now people are starting to catch on. SC will be the first and last of its kind. No other developer is going to do what SC did, especially with transparency.

>>165349956
Not that I think CIG has done a particularly shitty job, but probably.

>>165349956
not to such a degree

>>165347912
pls respond. Also, does elite kill the desktop audio for anyone else? Can't play music or anything while running the game, it's like they're using ASIO or something and hijacking the audio driver.

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>>165349304
World of Darkness
CCP spent 8 years of making something that apparently wasnt fun enough. Even after reaching alpha stage with 3-4 different WoD games.

>>165350362
Make sure you have the option to "allow prgrams to take exclusive use of this audio device" off in window's setting.

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>>165348074
Still waiting for Stalker 2

>>165351036
Survarium is actually pretty good at the lowest levels, but I think it killed any hope I had of a sequel.

Tarkov looks good but its also expensive and early access. Already have SC filling that hole.

>>165351140
I thought tarkov was already released

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>>165351140
>multiplayer bullshit
>"""spiritual successors""" to stalker

get out of here

>>165351140
"""alpha""" early access, that you can't get get into unless you pay for the limited edition

>>165351337
Didn't say that anon, said it killed any hope I had of them making one.

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>>165351407
oh alright

>>165348074

Well I've been told repeatedly on the forums that Elite is a work in progress, so I'm definitely hyped for when the game will be completely finished. Can't wait to enjoy it at its full potential.

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>>165351801

>>165351801
ED is certainly a work in progress. The problem however is that they're selling it as a completed game WITH expansions.

>No valid captcha

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN HIRO? I DONT WANT YOUR PASS

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>>165352586
You're right.
They are promoting it as a complete game which its not. It's more like a very long tech demo with endless boring grind no matter what you do to be able to progress in some meaningful way.

Another problem I see in space games is EVE Valkyrie.

A small VR "demo" where the cool stuff are the first couple of minutes and you end up with just boring stuff for the rest of the game. It's sold for 510 norwegian crowns on Steam compared to ED which is sold for 200 crowns + 200 for Horizon which is a lot more game for the money. Even if its still nothing.

Says more about Valkyrie.

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>>165289597
Derek Smart don't even read what he copypaste

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>>165353164

>>165353164
>I am so gay

Is this the biggest development update that any Derek Smart related project has ever had?

>>165353164
holy kek. I never even bothered to finish reading this the first time it was posted, incredible that he didn't either

>>165353164
What makes you say he doesn't read it?

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>>165352970
>anything good coming from Eve Online
The whole game is a skinner box & milking machine

>>165356368
Guess? why would he post something that go against his delirium? honest question

>>165353164
What were the replies?

>>165357510
What did he post that goes against his "delirium"?

Are you referring to the list of "leaks" mocking cultists? Don't tell me you mistook those as serious leaks, Anon.

>you am derek smart and are jealous of CIG
These are cultist accusations.

You do understand sarcasm, right? If you delete your posts out of embarrassment I understand.

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>>165358154
>cultist accusations
>accusations
But anon, all of it is true.

Anything happening with those Obelisk in the Alien Ruin people found a few days ago?

Or did people give up on it?

outyet

>>165359084
Still /techdemo/

>>165358823
The dads are hard at work waiting for FDev to flip the story switch again.

>>165359319
k
see you next week

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>>165345838
>tfw distinguished insider (or at least F&F)

>>165359435
2 weeks

>>165359375
>That one time people who were in a specific system couldn't access their ships because the systems were locked thanks to the story switch

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faggots

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What would you do when you are in love with a ship but deep down you know that there is an infinitely better ship from it you can get with just for 10$ upgrade.

>>165360393
See a therapist.

>>165360393
t-thicc

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>>165359509
>>165360241

I traded my pants and a gold tooth for a Aurora.

Did I do good /vg/?

>>165357850
Didn't keep the link but the url was something like www.dereksmart...

>>165360393
If there's an infinitely better ship in the same price range won't the other probably be buffed sometime? Or the better one nerfed?

>>165359435
Come back in August for 3.0. Desember for Squirrel42

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>>165360393
Tell me about it.
It's $250. Think of what you can get for $250
I bought it way back when cus it was billed as a modular civilian refit suitable for secure hauling, and blockade running while being livable and fast.
It's $250. Think of what you can get for $250


A Gladius and a Gladiator.
A freelancer and a Prospector.
A Constellation Taurus and a Cutlass Black.

It is my very favorite ship and I just cannot justify it because of how completely they ruined it. In its current state it's just not good at anything, and there has been no talk of altering it and no confirmation of Modularity in the turrets and hardpoints to change its role.

>>165361043
I mean ... the Freelancer max will be able to go through small jumptions while Conny Taurus will not, and Freelancer will be cheaper to operate due to weight and size. That's CiG's justification for same price range even though Taurus have twice the size of cargo cap of Freelancer Max.

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>>165361621
They said ages ago thats the Base lancer was small hole capable, its never been said if the max was or not, and DESU that statement is so old(Made about the original and significantly smaller base freelancer) and has not been touched upon in so long that it may not even apply.

Note the scale of guns/turret in particular relative the the ship, but those are size four guns on twin turrets.

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E:D Stream up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqCdans_ps

>>165362228

>CQC is still around

Do people actually play this garbage or are they only doing this to boost the game's pathetic population?

Also why the fuck do fighter cockpits look the same as regualr ship cockpits. Why can't anything have a different design of cockpit

>>165362363
Because E:D is shallow and Fdev is lazy, plain and simple.

>>165362067
Damn, old freelancer looks like a plastic toy.

>>165362363
How can you expect anything more than just tupperware shaped ships?

I bet it's only the dev's wife that works on ED.

Braben and the boys are too busy playing SC.

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>>165363082
>SC fanbois talking shit when all their game is a polished off Tech Demo turd
>Image related, it's a SC fanboi getting pounded by SC Dev team while they take all your gold

>>165361602
Is that Retaliator Bomber? What will be the role of bombers in the game? maybe it is priced suited to its role considering the base Retaliator is 150$

Another bomber, Vanguard Harbinger, is 280$ mind you

>>165362067
That's why I'm skeptical about it and said taurus is infinitely better. They need to make MAX either cheaper or as large as taurus in capacity.

>>165363346

I legitimately hope you're not speaking of E:D as if it's anything but a mind numbing time sink while we wait to see if SC shits the bed or not.

>>165361621
It doesn't matter what the reasons are, if it ends up that no one is using the Freelancer and just using the Constellation they'll have to buff the Freelancer. That's how balance works.

>>165363346
I'd get pounded by Tulio and Miguel anyday

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>only six engineers left to unlock
>Palin is not one of them
Reaching elite in something will be the longest grind.

>>165363346
>Image related, it's a SC fanboi

I wish

Would really like a Reclaimer. I currently have a Prospector, Super Hornet, Freelancer MAX, and two 85x's. One to keep and one to ccu to a Reclaimer.
Anyone wanna try and justify not getting the Reclaimer and grabbing another sub-$350 ship instead?

new atv out
alien languages lmao
fuck this company im out

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>Star Citizen Special Needs Edition: Around the Verse

How do they keep getting away with this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b6tWxM_d0o

>Star Citizen Special Edition: Around the Verse - Alien Languages

what

Shouldn't it be: "Around the Verse: Special Edition - Alien Languages"
Why the 'star citizen' at the start?

>>165366951
because it's Star Citizen

>>165366591
If you want to be both a miner and a salvager, nothing wrong with that.

>>165366916
What's wrong with it?

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Are 140$-150$ price range ships the most underwhelming ships in the game for their money?

>F7C-R Hornet Tracker
What the fuck is this? Can't fight, can't explore. It's not going to be a "command" ship as commanders will command their org from capital ships or more expensive ships.
>Freelancer MAX
People debated itt that it is infinitely worse than Taurus for its role.
>Prospector
Go fucking play No Man's Sky
>Constellation Taurus
Might be the only acceptable ship in the price range, stills needs a crew to be efficient
>Cutlass Blue
We still not know what this ship is going to be. Would you wan't a Cutlass with more armor and less cargo for 50$ more? be my guess
>Retaliator Base
Needs too much people to operate for its price range and we don't know what the modules are going to be. If you can refit this ship to be everything in the game through modules, then it might find a place in the verse

>Vanduul are bio-luminescent

What a bunch of rave furries

Xi'an sounds like a pretty neat language.

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>>165366916
>"I speak Na'vi fluently"

The way he say it with that serious look on his face makes it uber cringy.

He reminds me of the nerds who hang out at Games Workshop stores bragging about their fluency in elvish...

>>165369891
This is exactly the kind of ubernerd you want making conlangs for your game.

It's a good thing.

>>165369891
Yeah but who else is going to make a fucking ayy language?
It's like if someone is fixing your PC you'd feel more reassured by a fucking neckbeard.

>>165369891
>>165370008

There are people who have weaponized their autism and sell it to the highest bidder.

This is one of them; Fueled by cringe and mountain dew, He'll make space incomprehensible again!

>>165368215
>Ships without the mechanics they rely on are shitty

w o w

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So who else is gonna start learning spaceweeb then?

>>165364317
Thats how balance work in a competitive game, SC is not, and the mindset that "All choices must be equally valid and result in the same outcome" is a cancer that is rotting away at gaming.

You don't buff a thing simply because no one is using it, and you certainly don't determine ship capabilities based on Cash shop cost. You're funding the project not paying for a competitive advantage or even competitive equality. If you are making your purchases based on game balance you are an idiot who does not understand the concept of an alpha.

>>165371178
>writing direction literally japanese
>numbers almost the same
Space weeb alright.

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>>165370008
Pretty much this.

>>165371451
You don't know anything about Japanese, do you?

>>165371538
Can't wait for the SA edits

Guest mode when fucking cunts

>>165371641
teach us, autism-san

>>165371178
It feels like they should use base 6 instead of base 10 since they have six fingers. I wonder if they switched relatively recently to simplify trading with other species.

>>165371451
Aliens unironically using base-10 numerical system.
Kill me now.

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>>165371178

>>165371981
Japanese is not written right to left, first off. The actual orthography for the numerals is quite different. The only similarity is the fact that there are special 100 and 1000 numerals, but that's not really an uncommon feature in languages. However...

>>165372036
Honestly, they should use base 12. Base 10 is easy for us because we have 10 fingers. Since the Xi'an have 6 fingers, you'd probably wind up with them using either a base-6 or base-12 system, but base-12 is VASTLY more practical due to its high divisibility.

>>165368215
>Tracker
It's a scout ship you mongoloid. It works with other ships to detect threats early and provide an information advantage.

>Max
Its worse than the Taurus based on its old stats, which will almost certainly change, just like the lancers base stats changed when It got rebuilt. Being a dedicated ship it will probably end up with similar or greater cargo capacity and lower operating costs than the Taurus, while the Taurus will have the advantage in combat.

>Prospector
Literally the only small mining ship in game, will be a hugely profitable craft in pursuit of small deposits of valuable minerals. Completely self contained but can also be easily paired with a hauler for better efficiency by the nature of its swappable ore pod system.

>Taurus
Low cost combat freighter operable by a single player with large cargo capacity and significant intimidation value. The only reasons I dont own one is the atrocious front glass.

>Blue
Cutlass with better shields more missiles and holding cells, after the rework it will be THE bounty hunting ship to have when pursuing "capture" targets.

>Base
We know the modules, Cargo front and rear, Quarters front and rear, Torps front and rear, Dropship front. The Dropship module combines with a rear cargo bay and 5 turrets will probably make this an excellent assault ship, capable of carrying an entire squad + supplies and a dragonfly in the rear bay. The only fair point is the high man power cost, which is why I advocate for modular hardpoints to be made for the retaliator allowing its to replace turrets with weapon or pylon mounts.

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>>165371178
We have gone full autism and I love it.

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>>165372258
>Cargo front and rear, Quarters front and rear, Torps front and rear, Dropship front
But muh comfy modules

>>165372219
heh

>>165372219
good goy, make sure no one forgets ever.

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>>165372505
Will never happen fellow tally lover, I have come to accept this, you should too. The tally is an attack sub/torpedo boat in space and neither of those things are comfy. It's just laid out wrong to be a livable ship. All I hope is that they allow us to swap enough parts to make it a functional blockade runner.

>>165372919
Glad I melted that piece of shit for an Orion.

>>165373014
I made mine into a caterpillar, but am regretting it, I could melt the cat, buy back the tally and have credits to spare, but waht I really want is to leave my bomber melted buy back a base and the modules, but they only sold the modules that one time and If they sell em again they'll probably be more expensive and not have LTI because CIG are gay jewish faggot kikes.

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>>165371832
Fuck yes they opened it again sometime
Not quite as angry as I remember but it will do

>>165342736
I saw Chris Roberts on Kickstarter in Austin Texas yesterday. I told him how cool it was to see him make a game again, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and send him any messages or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the Kickstarter with like $2 million in backer money in his bank account without a game.
The backers on Reddit were very nice about it and professional, and were like “Chris, you need to give us a game for our money.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear them, but eventually turned back around and started developing a game.
When the backers melted their ships to buy new .jpegs, he stopped them and told them they could get ships for cheaper with war bonds “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After they waited for 5 years and were still waiting for a game, he kept interrupting them by yawning really loudly.

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>>165372919
>The tally is an obsolete attack sub/torpedo boat in space
fixed :'(

please talk about elite. elite is the finished game here. are you looking forward to thargoids?

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>>165374203

>>165372258
you cant even fit a dragonfly into it.... also living modules are a joke the whole thing needs rework its a steaming pile of shit with nice exterior

>>165374464
>please clap

>>165374464
>Finished

Nobody except the dads are this delusional. Please don't be a dad.

>>165374203
>>165374586

I fucking love it.

One question though, why is it still fucking huge?

>>165374801
>Still

They made it bigger.

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>>165366916

>>165374715
If you put a cargo bay in. If a cutlass can fit a dragonfly the tally's cargo module certainly could. Im saying if you pair the front drop ship modules with the rear cargo module, you can have an infantry squad + a shitload of ammo and a light vehicle.

>>165375084
unless the cargo somehow changes the whole ship or is magic inside and adds dimensional room that doesn't work in 3rd dimension with the lack of lift/doors there would be no way to put a dragonfly in there then to ram it inside.

>>165374801
Why wouldn't it be huge?

>>165374203
>>165374586
Just freelancer my shit up senpai

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>>165375342
The cargo modules are external lifts with mag plates on them like the Constellation. Image for ants, but the struts in teh red are telescoping hydraulic arms that drop the floor to ground level.

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>japanese language
>bird warrior people
Tengu confirmed ayylamos

Deepest lore.

>>165374801
Because the buccaneer was made to silence the "muh nimble pirate fighter" crying and the Cutlass can now fully embrace its role as a fighting cargo ship with enough guns to win and enough space to make winning into a profitable endeavor.

>>165376120
>Bird warrior people
The Xi'an are turtles. You're thinking of the Tevarin.

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ayyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeee

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>>165376070
Only trace amounts of wasted space in that module.

>>165376120
tengu is gw2

>>165376392
yeah, its highly irritating how they like "Cargo can only be securely stored in defined square areas" and then procede to design everything to be as incompatible with square boxes as possible.

>>165376342
Ugh, they had one job. They should have given the Tevarin that cool script language.

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>>165376454
what a disappointment that game was

>>165375450

>muh "unparalleled manoeuvrability"

I actually like the size of the current Cutlass, it's like a heavy fighter that can double as a ghetto dropship, which really fits the bill of it being a multi-role "militia" ship.

It certainly needs the remodel, but ideally it would have the same internal space as now and just be a little more compact.

The new one feels like 2/3rds of a Constellation.

>>165376264

The Buccaneer is far lighter than the ship I was hoping for when they announced it.

To me a pirate/militia fighter is about independence: sacrificing a certain level of combat ability for non-combat utility. For the price tag I was hoping for a Super Avenger, not a very slightly up-gunned Gladius.

Hopefully they will add a long-range medium fighter, if not from Drake then from RSI or even CO.

What they really fucking need to do like yesterday is describe what modules are gonna be available for the Caterpillar. Right now that thing despite being flyable is so up in the air in terms of function and soo poorly arms for its size that keeping it on my account is really hard

>>165376741
>Super Avenger.
>$110

Freelancer, mantis GT-220s. OR Jump a few bucks and get a Gladiator, once the game is out swap the Belly torps for a cargo hold.

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>>165376639
>space suit
>leotard

>>165376741
>The new one feels like 2/3rds of a Constellation.

I think the new size was a logical step considering the Current Cutlass is useless garbage

It was too small to be worth taking, too large to avoid fire like a smaller ship. Had to go either way, and the Bucc was the "go smaller" option.

>>165376905

They have talked through a lot of ideas before and they have almost all been very cool.

If they intend to keep the "module customisation" stretch goal then there will be a ton of ship customisation coming in the long term. I can't imagine we'll see more of this though until almost all of the ships are complete.

>>165377156
You should know by now that leotards make the best space suits

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>>165377089

I absolutely love the idea of the Gladiator, it is a blast to fly, but there are too many retarded design elements going on like the chair lift and the gunner bubble.

Freelancer is too big for me. They have done a great job on it though.

I'm really just hoping for an Avenger or 325A that doesn't suck.

>>165377570

>325A that doesn't suck

Don't remind me; I'm pretty sure my Aurora LN is a better missile boat.

>>165377182

I still think that there is a gap for a non-military fighter which can carry one passenger/gunner and a very small volume of cargo.

I would honestly go with the Reliant if it weren't steaming garbage, but I think I am just going to have to unmelt my Avenger once they fix the cockpit and guns.

325A will be great after the rework (I hope) but it's a bit too slick for me.

>>165377204
note I said describe not produce.

I dont care when they make them, I jsut want to know what they do and dont intend.

Will we have:
"Light Gunnery Module" which addes a turret or three with small hardpoints.
"heavy gunnery module" which just adds another big fat turret,
"Missile turret module" anti fighter missiles
"vertical launcher module" which fires bigger rockets than turreted.
"Secondary Shield module" with a secnd sheild bubble to protect the ship.
"Supplementary powerplant module" to power all this shit.
"Cutlass docking Module" like that one dude drew up years ago.
Mix and match to built you're Ideal mad max spaceship.

Or is it just gonna be non combat modules like different cargo configs or extra quarters or w/e.

I just want to know what theyre planning to make so I can decide to keep the ship or not. I want to make it into a gunboat, since the Starfarer is already a far better cargo ship while also being better armed. right now the Dedicated pirate subcap multicrew ship gets its ass completely handed to it by a solo crewed Starfarer Gemini.

>>165378010
That the Avenger m9. Pilot, passenger in the bed loot in the back. The 300I rework will probably add seats too.

>>165378010
Maybe they could use their developer powers to make the Reliant not shit
I know it's kind of playing God, and that many will be morally against them for it, but I think the risk is worth it

>>165378319

I like the idea of vertical ships (I think) but it turns out I hate flying them. In the free-flight I was constantly trying to avoid obstacles as if my wings were on the sides. This is obviously a bad habit.

I think I'll rent it down the road and see how it's getting on.

>>165378183

>The 300I rework will probably add seats too.

I was very optimistic about the 300i update until the F7C remodel. Some people might not have noticed the F7C remodel, as it is literally exactly the same with the same clipping issues and the same shitty cockpit, missile placement, nose turret and landing gear. The new F7A is awesome but exactly none of those improvements were brought over to the F7C.

So hopefully Chris Smith deigns to actually fix his shit this time.

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Worried yet?

>>165381049
>All those wasted sentences just trying to say "scam"

10 dollars well spent.