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The Nassau, or "How to fix the Kawachi"

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Last Thread: >>165197786
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>>165279934
Im thinking of taking a break form my grind for Akizuki, which line of which type of ship should i play?
Im deciding between German BB, Soviet DD, Soviet Cruisers and German Cruisers.
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>>165280182
Play German cruisers.
After playing Karlsruhe you will feel that Akizuki grind isn't that bad and that you are full of energy to continue it
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>>165279797
Because at the end of the day, there's only 1 victory condition, and the other stats like damage or K/D or survival rate might give more insight but aren't really important or useful if you're only looking at a single metric, whereas everyone has the same opportunity (at least in solo games, and over a large spread of matches) to affect their team's chances at winning positively or negatively, which is what WR is an indicator of.
Because it's measured relative to other players it gives you an insight into how strongly/consistently they can influence matches so that their team wins compared to how another player can do the same thing, someone with a 60% WR is clearly contributing more than a 50 or 45% player, otherwise they just wouldn't be winning more often.
Though at the end of the day, playing with people and just judging for yourself is probably the best way to see if a player is good or not.
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>>165280324
Sadly that won't help, I left off at Konigsberg a while back, i'm at tier V on soviet and german cruisers.
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>>165280158
Why is Bismarck such a bitch to Prinz?
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>french battleship content has yet to be officially revealed
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>>165280514
Prinz a shit.
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>>165280459
Than play Königsberg. 360 noscope turrets should be fun
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>Nassau edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0tGB4KDbto
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I WILL FUCING KIDD MYSELF
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Fourth RN CL skill?
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>>165281198
NO KIDDING?
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Who do I pay to create a name shaming website?
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>>165281843
Me.
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Did you know the nassau can shoot straight ahead with 3 of its turrets?
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>>165226052
>Holy shit they picked a module that was actually useful to them
>What a retard lel
kys shitter

>>165239264
>"Coronel" insigna on the tower
Is this under the searchlight platform? Can't really get a good look at it there.

>>165248063
>having to alter your plan
>incredibly game-breaking
Wow, your counter counters you? Taht's targic

>>165261778
>Implying there's any logic to how WG fails to achieve balance

>>165264245
Really slow planes but tanky ships.

>>165271064
You should re-roll. It's worth it.

>>165271548
Thanks buddy. Hopefully you'll be my first recruit to make it to T6.

>>165274279
I'm of the same opinion. The other issue with the Consumables container is that many consumables don't have that much utility at all.
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>>165280824
hey wait a second you're not french BB anon! YOURE AN IMPOSTER, A PHONY
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>>165280824
Kys impostor
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>playing the game as usual
>we're winning, only enemy Bismarck left
>one of my teammates types in all caps
>SINK THE BISMARCK
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqg7EU-VGvw
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>French BB line still not announced
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>>165283471
it's been announced dude.
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>>165283582

Has it officially been announced for sure that it's actually a BB line and not just CAs and DDs?
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>>165283471

>VMF get DD's with anti ship missiles before France gets a proper BB line
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>everyone shits on the Leander
>its one of the few cruisers I'm good at
Why am I doomed to like shit ships.
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>>165283661
sorry, I meant pronounced. PRONOUNCED DEAD LMAO, EAT SHIT FROGGER
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>>165283757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eevs2IL7y8

Soon...
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>>165283876
>good
60% good or just better than server average?
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>>165284050
I'm a shitter, so better than server average.
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>>165284050
>60%
>good

lmao, shitters can leave
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>>165284241
if you're above 60% WR you're a statpadder
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>>165283893

delete this
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>>165284486
If you're above 50% WR you're a statpadder, if you're 50% or under you're a shitter.
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>>165281265
Anybody?
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>>165284631
can't argue against that
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>>165284491
I'LL DELETE THE FRENCH FLEET AND THEIR ABILITY TO PROJECT POWER IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS
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>>165284486
>>165284631
What exactly does"statpadding" mean?
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>>165280459
You kidding? Konigsberg is great fun. The only real turd in the line after Karl is the Yorck.
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>>165284792
demolition expert
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>>165285546
Here? Essentially nothing usually.
It's supposed to be referring to stuff like players who play nothing but T1/T2 games in a dedicated sealclubbing division or something like that just so they can over-inflate their win rate.
Though now it often just ends up being a buzzword some people throw out at anyone who has a better win rate than them, irrelevant of how they got it (such as anyone who plays in a division at all, or anyone who doesn't just play T10).
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>>165283582
All they said were two French lines are in the works for this year, but that could mean a cruiser and destroyer line
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>>165285974
>Yorck
M8? I haven't had this much fun on a ship since I first tried USN Freedom AP Baltimore edition.
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>>165284792
MAA if you go to T9-10
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>when enemy cleveland bullies your emerald so you intentionally run aground while laying smoke only to deploy dat AP into his citpussy 5 minutes later
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>>165286197
> Though now it often just ends up being a buzzword some people throw out at anyone who has a better win rate than them.
I kind of figured , but I had to be clear.

Also, why can't I seem to set fires to other ships despite throwing a ton of HE at them/do certain parts of the ship have a higher chance to ignite than others?
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Does the Spee reward camouflage from the christmas convoy missions offer any advantage over spee's regular premium camo?
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>>165287041
Not really, but you want to be aiming for the superstructure if possible, I can't say for sure that it has a better chance for fires, but it's where you'll do the most HE damage.
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>>165287182
No, its just uglier.
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>>165287190
Alright, thanks.
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>>165285546
Unryuu poster pls come to NA.
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>>165287481
I switched to NA last night.
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>>165287360
Thanks. Guess I can stop grinding those missions after the last port slot.
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>>165287559
Oh boy.
Whats your IGN. We should play at some point.
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>>165287846
But I am new and bad at game.
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>one DD match, and he's on our side
>our BBs still cling to the fucking blue line like they'll drown without it
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>>165288343
That's okay, people don't mind, so long as you're nice to play with.
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>>165288343
So am I
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>>165288343
>>165288430
I'm not new but I play like I am
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>start game in BB
>a cruiser says he'll stick with me to defend with AA
>well alright, let's go in
>cruiser gets deleted by Kurfurst
>now getting spammed with fires and BB rounds and a DD pops and tosses a wall of skill at me
>instantly sunk because can't turn worth a shit
Yeah, I think the blue line is comfy. I'll stay there from now on.
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>>165288429
> That's okay, people don't mind, so long as you're nice to play with.
It's almost always the opposite in a lot of games.
>>165288430
Oh.
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>Get Eugen in 5 Admiral boxes back before Xmas.
>People keep parroting $3 boxes are better.
>Blow $75 bucks on nothing and vow never to gamble again.
>Decide fuck it, my birthday's coming up, spend $25 more on admiral boxes.
>3k dubs, Tirpitz and Arizona.

Moral of the story is go big or go home I guess. Fuck $3 boxes.
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>>165288753
/wowsg/ has some nice people, there's certainly some that only want to play with unicums and get carried but there's plenty that are happy to play with new players and just anyone who's enjoyable to sail with
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So can we all agree that new type of armament will be manual AA?
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>>165287041
No. Only thing that matters is your fire chance, tier of enemy ship (higher means better fire defense) and if enemy fallen for fire prevention meme. It doesn't even matter if shell actually penetrated
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>>165288892
Well, that's a bit reassuring.
>>165289047
Oh, okay. Thank you.
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>>165288857
fuck you
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>>165289230
nay thou
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>>165288857
>tfw spent my money on boxes and now I'm fucked but at leat I have my camos :^)
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>>165288892
>>165289202
Yeah. It's just nice to have someone to talk/work with
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>>165289202
Np.
Wg does really shitty job at communicating its game mechanics. And then we get them gutted as confusing((((
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>>165289569
is under NDA ))))
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>>165287041
What it actually means is people who exclusively play in 3-man divs set up with good or very good ships that dominate their tier.

When 3 people with a 'normal' WR of 55% - 60% do this they can easily inflate their WR to 80%
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>>165289346
Buy some $5 ones anon, your luck is bound to be up for some nice ships now!
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>>165290334
and theres nothing wrong with that

the only reason it works is because divisions are not piss common, so suddenly 3 dudes working together are more likely to win that 3 dudes who dont work together
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>>165290334
What about people who play those same tiers and divs but with a wide range of ships?
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Does anyone have that webm of the Iowa hyperspacing in and deleting Mako with one salvo?
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>>165290773
can't afford them anymore, I fell for 3$ meme and spent what little disposable money I got on them, now I'm back to f2p
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Send help
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>https://thedailybounce.net/2017/01/11/world-of-warships-developer-diaries-2017-plans/
>British line
>2 French lines
I'm guessing the RN line will be BBs. French will be Cruisers and DDs though I'm hoping for BBs. 2017 will be a good year.
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>>165290814
I'not calling it wrong, I'm just explaining why some people get 80% WR.

This is what happens when you use three good players in two MKs and a t7 CV every game.

>>165291272
Teamplay is a factor. But so is using the right ships.
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>>165291452
>t8 ca in mostly t7 environment
>t8 PREMIUM
git gud
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>>165291492
French DDs would be the shit with 45 or so knot speed without flags
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>>165291606
Pay closer attention
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>>165291452
do you have autism my dude? what the fuck is the problem?
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>>165291818
do you not know how to type down your expression(s)?
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>>165291492
>There will be new types of armament added into the game, no details were shared.
There were plenty of details if you were paying attention.
Rooskie balans AShM
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>>165291818
oh, 7+6+6 div... fuck that shit, I can't understand why can't they put in similar concept as tanks: you div outside your tier you get penalties to exp and credits and you div with your tier you get bonuses
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>>165292136
What am I looking at?
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>>165292136
the fuck is this
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>>165291702
I bet they'll have shitty guns.
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>>165292283
>>165292309
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kildin-class_destroyer
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>>165292283
>>165292309
A Russian DD with missiles

Coming soon to WoWS :^)
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>>165291604
Tbh I woulnd't call just playing in a div itself statpadding.
People who are just grinding out stock ships or whatever, who aren't just playing the most OP ships possible and are just having fun playing a range of different stuff and aren't looking to rig the MM with something like that, that's really just playing the game.
Unless you want to count anything that increases your chance of winning at all "statpadding", but again that kind of makes the term a bit meaningless.
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>>165292518
PLS

NO
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>>165292803
Feel the Balans)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>play wyoming
>enemy karlsruhe and konigsberg converge on me
>30 hits on either
>22k dmg???
>I'm dead cause lmao overpen and torps
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>>165292431
they will probably be hard hitting, Le Fantasque class has 138mm guns
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>>165291492
No way they'll do 3 BB lines in a row. DDs are easier to model and make.
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>>165293218
Should also have similar ballistics as Russian 130mm, slightly lower muzzle velocity, but quite a bit heavier, so it retains speed better over distance.
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>>165292978
IT'S HAPPENING.
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So can we confirm Iowa D hull at this point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsf38NYzo5Q
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>>165293643
>So can we confirm Iowa D hull at this point?
No lel.
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>>165293643
only if Mo gets it too
Iowa is overrated compared to Mo, she's literally irrelevant compared to the superstar that is Missouri
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>>165294052
Muddy Mo is a joke bote
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what is so good about the NC? its guns can't hit anything, it gets citted by HE if it is anything but bow forward, the shell velocity severely reduces the chance of citadels. There is no redeeming quality of this ship, and one of my favorite ships in this game is the dunkerque
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>>165286083
Thanks.
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>>165294202
so is Iowa and NJ and Whiskey
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>>165282213
Yeah, it's there in gothic styled characters on a bronze plate
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>Spamming Ocean Soul and Zulu all night
>Can't break 500k for the life of me
>Finally do it
>Would have succeeded without either
JUST
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>>165294202
>>165294726
t. butthurt commies/WW2 losers
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>>165284050
My leander has like 85% over 25 matches and i already got fiji, go figure.
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>>165292589
I ocnsider it statpaddign when you consistently play in a div and use nothing but the ships that are good or very good.
Saipan with two MKs? That's statpadding right there.
NC, Chapaev and Shiratsuyu? That's just some div.
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>>165294279

>he can't wreck things with NC's potato shells
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>>165295871
I have a Mighty Mo cap, Mo memorabilia and a fucking star spangled shower curtain, get on my level.... Iowa class was a mistake :(
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>>165295986
kill yourself you autistic ask me how i know you sit at 45-53% solo win rate
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>try to shotgun a cruiser at 3km in my BB
>shots take a banana peel shape
>no damage to cruiser at all
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>>165296010
The only mistake here is you having little to no faith in your favorite bote
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>>165293643
>mfw WG introduces T10 Wisconsin with CIWS, Sea Sparrow and Tomahawks.
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>Cruisers are underplayed
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>>165295986
I wouldn't disagree with that, if only because that moves into the realm of rigging MM.
Though the vast majority of people here who play in divs are the sort that don't do that and just stick to playing a wide range of ships. Which is why the term is becoming a bit meaningless in these threads, because most of the time that it's getting used is when people throw it around about anyone who plays in a div at all.
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>>165296419
>not playing BBs right now and showing them who's the boss of this gym
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>>165296374
I'm okay with this
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>cruiser week, cruisers are +100%co
>DD week, DDs are only +50%xp
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>>165296256
oh I have faith in her, but I don't let that cloud my mind... they all were glorified AA platforms. I'd love nothing more than to see Mo duke it out with Hotel, but, alas... aircraft > botes
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>>165285546
I don't know who's this lady but i'd like her to ride my dick with that expression on her face.
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>>165296067
57% solo :°)
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>>165296419
Why didn't I get a game like that in my Fuso
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How much does torpedo acquisition range do? What is the base range?

I'm really thinking of dropping it for superintendent, since I almost always use my repair parties on my Gneisnau.
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>having a shit game with BB, overpens out my ass
>suddenly behind the island... my doppelganger
>fire
>quad cit
feels good man
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I wanna get good but my team won't let me ;_;
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>>165297430
New Orleans.
Did I win something?
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>>165297710
It's Baltimore, Atlanta, Cleveland :^)
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>>165291492
FUCKING FROGS DID NOTHING

WHERE THE RM AT?!
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>tfw you get a kill with your stubby vodka cruiser 4km torps
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http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/111451-1-worldwide-tashkent-damage-276k/#topmost

So this is the power of NA...
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>>165298151
>Be RM
>Get Fritzed
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>mfw someone says "F Der Grobe"
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>>165298257
Freddy da Gross?
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>>165298257
Frederich the great?
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>>165298257
>Currywurst
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>>165298257
EffDeeGee
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>>165297686
>Discord

That's the problem; leave it and your performance will improve dramatically.
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>konigsberg
>kirov and nurnberg rounding the island
>kirov: 9 hits - 24k dmg
>nurnberg 33 hits 13k dmg
?????
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>>165298887
but that's not even the wowsg discord
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>>165298224
RM ships are way cuter than disgusting frog ships with the exception of Jean Bart.
Dunkerque is alright but doesn't come close to Littorio.
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>>165299147
Shit taste desu.
Baguettes are the 3rd best looking botes after IJN and USN.
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>>165299018
Is of onion memeturtelback armor)))
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>>165297453

pls respond
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>>165299221
>IJN

OPINION DISCARDED

Except for some IJN cruisers like Takao the rest of their ships have horrible insectoid features.

>USN

Can't disagree on that, their utilitarian/standardized design is cool, unlike most RN botes.
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>>165299592
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>>165299592
Garbage taste confirmed.
IJN botes are by far the best looking overall.
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>>165299221
>IJN
Now this is bait.

KM>RN=USN>Russkies>>IJN
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Welp. Never having a game like that again.
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friendly reminder that pagodas are making a comeback
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>USN ship """""design"""""
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>>165299857
>>165299896
Too cluttered and messy for my taste, but you weebs would idolize anything that comes from japan without blinking.

>>165299959
KSM>USN>RM=RN>IJN>MN>VMFliteralwhos
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>>165300147
Somebody post Toblerone boat
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>>165300336
>>165299959
>RN above IJN
>RN above anyone
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>Brawl in a BB
>Get torpedoed by friendly DD
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>>165299959
I agree with you, Scharnhorst is the best looking bote ever made.
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>>165300464
Well you should watch where you're fucking going. Just because you're a baBBy doesn't mean you get a free ticket to not pay attention.
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>>165300451
Colony-class is cute, Nelson is characteristic, Queen Elizabeth-class is also cute.
KGV has a good tower althugh i'm not a fan of quadruple turrets.
They're aesthetic and their AA monstrosities are interesting.
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>>165300628
That can be said for most German Ships.
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>>165300670

Brawling by baBBies should be encouraged. Be glad he's not a sniping little bitch who runs at the first sign of a cruiser.
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>>165300628
Scharnhorst is my favourite BB ever, aesthetically.
How is it? Scharnhorst makes me happy!
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>>165300464
almost happened to me today, had to turn into enemy dd to dodge. still won that brawl.
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>>165300865
>encouraging baBBies
They should just pick a non flavor of the patch class.
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>>165300464
>Brawl in BB
>Friendly DD force enemy BB to turn broadside with torps
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>>165300808
That's the illustration of the 1945 Prinz Eugen from Trumpeter, right?
I have built the 1942 one though with the may 1941 camouflage.
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>>165300670
>had a Shimakaze sail past me at point blank range and dump 15 torps directly into my side
>"i didnt see you i was zoomed in"
Just watch where you're going my ass.
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>>165301059
more often:
>brawl with enemy BB
>he wants to turn broadside to bring all his guns to bear
>friendly torps make him turn away and angle
like 99% of the time
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>>165301104
Youre right. Just got it from their Website.
Always wanted to build a model Ship. Had a lot of fun with building houses for my H0 model railway.
Any Tips on what brand to chosse or similar?
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>>165301420
my personal favourite:
>brawl with enemy BB
>get torpedo alert
>have to go full broadside to enemy BB to dodge allied torps
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Post 0.6.0

Montana or Kurfürst?
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>>165301660
Kraut
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>>165301660
>ship that cant be citted

>ship that can
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>>165302083
>muffled fuso pic in the distance
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>>165302083
So the Montana then?
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>>165302212
>falling for the american battlecruiser meme
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Was thinking of getting my first premium ship. Should I get the Graf Spee and do the campaign?

Is the ship any fun?
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>>165302352
Well the GrossGermany can clearly be citpenned, so...
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>>165302387
Are you any good?
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>>165302387
get Scharnhorst
Spee is not completely terrible if you really know what you are doing with cruisers
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>>165302486

Donno, having loads of fun with German BBs, just unlocked Gneisnau and enjoying shredding cruisers.

>>165302663

Thanks. Nah, as above, just got the Gneusnau. Might get the Tirpitz, though.

Well, sounds like I won't bother with the Graf Spee. I'm having trouble as it is with cruisers, hard to get kills in them, unlike with DDs and BBs.
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>"friendly" Russian Cruiser fires every single torpedo into my back at point blank range

Political officers when?
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How much free xp does the Missouri make per match?
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if soviet ships are so OP then why are they the most underplayed?
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>>165303035
Sounds he's the commissar and someone wasn't advancing with enough fervor.
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which weeb kongo is best?
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>>165303249
They have the best guns in the game

Usually ships trade RoF with shell arcs / damage

soviet ships have good RoF, good damage, the best arcs in the game
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>>165303249
Because they're still boring, and people tend to want to play more iconic navies, such as the ones that actually existed.
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>>165303249
Soviet cruiser steer like ass and easy to citadel until Moskva
DD are big gun boat that need proxy DD to spot for them
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>>165303249
Because they're easy to fuck up for the most part, and people have enough trouble playing crusiers as it is without them being extra big targets and having less armor.
They're the sort of powerful that in the hands of someone that knows what they're doing can end up being stupidly strong, as opposed to something like German BBs which are powerful partially because they're so forgiving and most players can take advantage of.
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>>165303249
>play iconic ships on nations that have naval heritage
>play ships whose techtree is 50% Stalin wet dream
hmmmmmm
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>>165303249
Because there's no reason to play them outside of rushing to the OP line. There's more to ships that raw performance and top scorers.

I've gone up to the Khavarovk and Gearing. I've recently finished the Buddy and also own an Aoba. While the russian ships are massively, undoubtedly superior to the other two, I enjoy playing Gearing and Aoba a lot more.
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>>165302798
>Donno

There's this thing called statistics that helps you tell if youre bad or good.
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Also a fun class
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>>165303285
Only one direction tovarisch... Forward!
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>>165304839
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>watch Mejash
>wubwub music
>bitchy typical american voice where it sounds like they are asking questions all the time
>before game starts he is looking up the stats of enemy players
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>>165305057
I looked up CV player stats
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>>165305057
It's what everyone on NA does.

They either run the XVM website mod or they look it up one by one to only focus the best players
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>Scharnhorst's B turret

pls buff
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>>165305246
You are no a Graf Spee with 350mm belt armor and turtlememe
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>>165305246

You know nothing of hell.

Try playing Dunkerque, fuccboi.
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>MM
>2 omahas vs 2 kamikazes

Okay.png
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>>165305217
>or they look it up one by one to only focus the best players
Too much effort desu. Sometimes I'll look up the CVs, and even then only in like T10 to see which team got the Hak autist and which one is going to lose.
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>>165303249

Because the vast majority of ships in other nations trees actually existed, and that there is almost no notable battles, if any at all, between the Soviet Navy and Japan or Germany during WW2.
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Any good WoWs streamer so I can git gud?
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>>165305581
F22xRaptor
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>>165305665
If you wanted a (You) all you had to do was ask.
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>>165305665
He said good.
>>
SUMMONING CHAIN
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>>165305665
I actually enjoyed his misery :3
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>>165305393
>Dunkerque on enemy team complains about turrets being knocked out
>Start chatting to him about the bulkhead that existed IRL
>He maintains his course while my torps make their way over
The 'weeb snipe' technique is very effective when it can be suitably adapted.
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>>165305721
>>165305727
>>165305814

All right, so give me a good one. About to go to bed, so want to watch some before I sleep.

Holiday feelsgoodman
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>1980 for my first game in the Derzki
I don't think me and this boat click.
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>>165306113
Flamu
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>>165306091

DEVILISH
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>>165306229
1980 what?
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>>165306346
Damage. I omitted that for some reason.
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>>165306091
Noted

Will try this sometime
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>games today have all been low damage
>either because your team abandons you and you die early
>or because your team is hypercompetent and stomps the enemy before you can rack up even 50k damage

Can't there be some middle ground?
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>>165306764
>and no one is div'ing outside of their circles.
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>>165306091
Let's be realistic. He would have run into those torps either way.
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>>165306965
What's your IGN, friend?
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>>165306965
You do have a circle to div with, don't you anon?
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>>165306965
God forbid people play with friends, damn those elitists!
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>>165307184
>inb4 they're not friends they're just in it for statpadding
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>>165307139
I really don't like div'ing because I'm shit.

>>165307140
I have my 14 'friendly' randoms.
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>>165307518
>ask anu for div
>nah eating
>two seconds later he's playing a game
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>>165307604
Then why do you scream that nobody wants to div with you? Faggot attention whore, if this is you Mosh, you will be tk'd on sight by /wowsg/ NA.
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>>165307658
>Then why do you scream that nobody wants to div with you?
Because it's kind've sad seeing all those people asking for div's in the /vg/ chat over and over and over getting no response
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>>165307623
Lol? What a fucking sack of shit you are.

>ask Hotel for a div
>nah eating dinner
>two seconds later Abrach logs in and is in battle with Hotel

The difference between my meme arrows and your meme arrows is that a lot of people asked Hotel and he gives them the same fucking lie.
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>>165307756
Maybe they got an inv instead of a chat reply?
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>>165307857
Kinda obvious they don't when you see them ask several times.
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Is it normal for the channel to have people posting while it looks empty?
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>>165307785
He uses that excuse to leave divs not refuse them.
He just doesn't accept the invites and never says anything at all.
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>>165308012
Yes it's broken. It's full of people but the names don't show up.
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>>165308051
That too, he actually told me he was preparing dinner when I invited him once.
The dude is shady as fuck, if /wowsg/ is too shit, he should leave the clan so someone else can join. There are many people waiting for a spot to open.
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>>165307785
I'm sure if you post about it in every thread he'll change his mind and div with you.
Not sure why you care so much about playing with some carried shitter though.
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>>165308012
Yes. Please buy more premoum ships to help fund chat server)))
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>>165308358
It's not that Hotel hates /wowsg/ and see us as scumbags.
It's the fact he blatantly lies to avoid us.
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yamato a q t until she explodes.
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Yesterday felt absolutely brutal, just couldn't accomplish anything. I look at the graph and at first glance it seems to reflect how bad yesterday was. But the swing is only about three tenths of a percent. Is that a huge amount or am I overestimating the difference?
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tfw no nazibunker gf
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>>165285974
So do you recommend playing the Krauts? What kind of gamestyle should i do? just spam HE at everything that moves?
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>>165308646
The guy who avoided any contact with SEA /vg/ despite posting here since CBT?
Seems more likely that he's just some awkward autismo than an elitist who hates everyone for no reason.
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>friendly destroyer runs into torps I launched ages ago
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whats your average winrate /wowsg/?

CVnts can fuck off
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>>165309171
solo or total?
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>>165309102
SEA stands for Stalk Em All, that's completely fine.
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>>165309171
60 solo
71 div
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>>165309171
53% over 350 games.
Still a blood red shitter.
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>>165309234
give me both

62% solo here
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>>165309171
61.5%
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>Be tier eight in tier ten match.
>all our tier tens (2 DD, 1 CA, 1 BB) go on a flanking mission along the blue line, leaving a bunch if tier eights and a couple of nines to fend off their whole team
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>playing tier 7 DD
>enter a tier 9 match with CVs
>we get an Essex with 0 fighters
>enemy Taihou waits out my smoke and has all the time in the world to line up 3 torpedo bombers to cross drop my shit
>AA blasting the whole time yet didn't shoot down a single plane
>take 2 hits and die
Guess I should have sat at the back with our cruisers and let the enemy take all the caps. It's all my fault I was outskilled by this perfectly balanced class.
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>>165310325
>be in t8 CA in t10 match
>get anally destroyed by anything
>do damage to enemy
>he just heals lol
>cant heal myself

friendly reminder that hightier is fair and balanced
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>>165310561

>Rush ahead aggressively against a CV
>Think nothing of the consequence of your actions
>Blame the CV for your fuck up
t. baDDy
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>>165310713
+10 gold!
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>tfw green shitter
>know enough not to turn broadside and angle as well as generally to avoid torps.
>however still prone to tunnel vision, and never knowing when to play aggressively vs defensively. Also struggle with target priorities and knowing when to switch targets.
>can almost always stomp reds, oranges and yellows but another green, much less a blue often humiliate me.
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>>165310561
It's your fault for not torping your cv the moment you saw his strike setup. Remember kids, always punish strike setup usn cv captains.
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>>165309171
57%
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>>165279934
Got an Ishizuchi from a crate today, gotta say I like it. You can angle the guns pretty far forward and that's enough to dominate as a BB in T4.
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>>165311247
can it hit stuff you aim at?
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>tfw you do this
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>>165311478
If you get close enough, sure :^)
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>tfw WTR dropped 2 after 40 battles played
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>>165311554
And still get outscored by some shitter who got 2 caps in his dd
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>>165311726
>04:28
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>>165311910
Im defacto neet since i finished university mang, my sleep circle has shifted quite a bit.

pls no bully
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>>165307785
It's alright Anu, no need to get mad that you don't want to div with /wowsg/. Just make all the excuses you want.
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>>165311726
>>165311554
where do i unsubscribe?
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>>165312063
Yep blame some minority for not having a job, always the right thing to do instead of accepting your own incompetence.
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>>165312276
>>165312214
What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
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>>165312207

But I'm literally frying up chicken tenders right now.
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>>165312327
>EXCUSES you're not diving with the right people
or something like that
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>>165312581

O-okay.
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>>165312650
You're just as bad as Raptor and NeoRussia.
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>>165312795
That wasn't even me in the original reply chain. I just saw my username and added on.
If y'all are gonna shitpost about me, I'm gonna at least join in on the merryment.
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>>165312795
Are they not diving with the right people either?
Is anyone diving properly here?
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>>165313016
Who's divving properly?
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>>165313332
Whoever doesn't have someone shitposting about them in every thread.
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>>165313565
So Lovesauce? Okay, I will follow his lead.
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>>165313634
>begs for divs
>always shitposts
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>>165313634
i though he just afkd in chat all day and never played at all
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>5am eu
>decide to boat in tirpitz
>get heavy T10 as expected
>still a fucking T10 afk/bot on MY team

why do they do it? is there a Tier 11 boats coming that i'm unaware of?
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>>165314020
captain XP maybe?
wouldn't surprise me if those people just started fresh captains on their T10s
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Akizuki is now a tier 8 gearing. GG WG.
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>>165314182
"no"
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>>165314182
How about fuck no, only and idiot would take that on ducky
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>>165314182
Still can't pen most of the DD platings
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>>165314326
>>165314461
>>165314674
At least the people who pick the skill wouldn't set you on fire anymore. :^)
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>>165314182
i doubt it
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>>165314856
t. shitter
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>>165315124
>just dont do damage and hope for a fire

k
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>>165315259
>take the skill
>still don't do damage
>now you just get no fires instead
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>>165315259
>He knows the secret to ducky but doesnt believe it

LEL
>>
>warships today is broken again
guess it's back to following a week worth of stats at a time again
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>>165315348
exactly. akizuki needs AP 80% of the time to do damage. the chance for fire already is way too low, even with with DE

>>165315469
you would do the same damage with AP, maybe even more. whats your point apart from being more annoying to BBs which i admit has its appeal?
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>>165315601
and when you can't pen with AP?
you're not going to be able to pen with HE with the skill anyway, and now you can't get fires either
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>>165315601
>you would do the same damage with AP
No.
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>Snow storm hit my area last night
>Knocked out power from 2am to 11pm
>Now 9pm and Internet still not back
>Can't complete my Santa Convoy
Fuck. Comcast. /blog
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>>165315773
i dont remember the last time i truly couldnt pen a ship with AP tbqh. its usually about how well you hit the superstructure and right now, if the ship is t8+ it usually has 19mm of SP armour resulting in HE doing 0 damage.

>>165315868
not an argument
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>>165315916
Hope you're alright anon
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>>165315601
>the chance for fire already is way too low, even with with DE
DE + Flags Ducky sets fires like an unboosted Zao because of the sheer number of shells she spits out. Starting a couple fires then switching to AP nets you tons of reliable damage. The best is when you bait a BB into DCing a couple fires, switch to AP while DC runs its course, then switch back to HE and get another couple fires going in a handful of seconds. It's extremely easy to pull this shit off in DE Ducky.
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>be benny
>angle slightly
>beat up every ducky

i dont see the appeal of the ducky
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Is there ever any point in taking a catapult fighter over a observation plane?
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>>165316136
i guess thats true. should give it a try tbqh
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>>165316203
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>165316203
The fact that the spotter is fucking useless? The fact that the fighter circles at a faster rate allowing you spot over large islands a little better because unlike the observation plane it doesnt spend its whole waking life clean on the opposite side of your ship? THe fact that it distracts a bomber squad potentially letting you get off with only a few scratches?

IDK no reason really.
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>>165316407
I'm actually curious.
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>>165316427

ONE MINUTE
N
E

M
I
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U
T
E
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>>165316427
I'm new, but I assumed the spotter aircraft would be better? I didn't know the fighter aircraft spotted.
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>>165316441
scout plane:
>more range you dont need in most matches unless you hug the blueline
fighter:
>spots DDs and torps better due to higher speed
>fucks up enemy bomb/torp drops
>isnt up just 3 seconds
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I really want to like this ship but cant. All these tier 8 matches is breaking my spirit. The worst thing is that I knew this was going to happen when they announced this ship.
Tier 6 - the buttmonkey for tier 8s.
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>>165316632
Tier 5s are the buttmonkey for tier 7s too.
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>>165316608
>Isn't up just 3 seconds
Well, about that anon....
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>>165316556

The spotter aircraft increases your range +
Gives you a new camera angle +-

Don't listen to any of the faggots downplaying the sniping though, you can easily land 10k and up salvos on retarded BBs sailing in a straight line since they think they're secure.
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>>165314674
The only DD surfaces that IFHE Ducky can't pen are the belts of Khaba and Umikaze.

>>165315601
>>165316136
>the chance for fire already is way too low, even with with DE
Ducky with DE is second only to Des Moines with DE for fire/min.
Ducky without DE sets more fires than Udaloi with DE.
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why is this allowed?
>>
what's the best way to get shitposted about here?
just show up on statskuns list as a purple?
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>>165317591
>3 missouris
>they all went alone to A
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>>165317684
>we counter DD noob
>>
>Russian premiums will continue to be released unabated
>Alpha/beta notes show Tallinn at possibly tier 7/8 with either the standard Hipper (nee Lutzow) armament or """planned Russian armament"""
>We will most likely get a balans'd Hipper

All of my ducats tovarisch)
>>
>tfw stats took a nosedive in the past week from learning how to play properly
>stats are climbing back up at a acceptable rate
Feels good.
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>>165318176
Best feeling desu.
I don't care about my actual stats so much as just wanting to play well so I don't let down my divmates.
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>>165318361
Same. I don't want to be MLGPRO or anything. I just don't want to be a burden on my team or divmates.

Its just a comfy feeling slowly getting better.
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>>165317817
ducat?
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>decide to take fletcher out
>its hotspot bastion
>"oh well"
>tell team to focus on the middle cap point
>what do they do?
>they fucking meander out to the 1 and 0 lines, the 0 line trying to capture the enemy zone in C area
>what is the enemy doing
>MASS PUSHING INTO FUCKING B CAP
>and being how we all scattered around the map they proceed to fucking tear us apart
>Call team out for their tactical choices in the midst of this embarrassingly bad rout
>"you have been reported 2 times"

How can aaanybody honestly enjoy being so ineptly subhuman at this game.
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>>165318519
just play CV and carry))
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Post 0.6.0

Montana or Kurfürst?
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>>165318698
Monty
So you don't get citpenned by any stray Fuso shells.
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about to unlock the jewgomo

will she be any better at anything than the kekgero?
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>>165318598

no Summers, doesn't solve the problem that the average player base of this game is subhuman in cognitive abilities.
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>tfw Precisionista spends the entire game shitposting
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>>165315773
>you're not going to be able to pen with HE with the skill anyway, and now you can't get fires either
Have you ever had 80-shell 0-dmg HE volleys against a tier 9/10 BB? My DE Ducky has. Shit is the most frustrating thing.

That is because T8+ BBs have 19mm of plating on their superstructure, which defeats normal Ducky HE but not HEAP. Meanwhile, T6-7 BBs have 16mm plating, which Ducky's normal HE penetrates just fine.

Is bullying T8-10 BBs worth 4 points? Eh. Up to you, I guess. I'm at least a little tempted.
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How the fuck do you get into cruisers.

It's the only class I really can't wrap my head around.
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>its an enemy collapses on its own game where no-one has a decent score!
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>>165319406
Press 1
Press 1 again
Find target
Double click LMB
Waggle stern
Double click LMB
Waggle stern
Double click LMB
etc.
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>>165319406
Make yourself as hard to hit as possible. Burn stuff down. Use your concealment to choose your fights. Always be watching out for incoming fire to dodge. Present the smallest profile, learn what stuff will overpen you and what you can angle/bow-on against. Use teammates as distractions.
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>>165319406
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>>165319406
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>>165319696
rip Cleveland.
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Does the Kurfurst have the same range secondaries as the last two ships?
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>>165320127
yes
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>French BB line possibly announced
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>>165320909
"Will we be seeing a French battleship line in 2017?"

-Frostss

Nope, but we do have a different battleship line planned for 2017. ;)

What could Wargaming have possibly meant by this extremely ambiguous answer?
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>>165321126
Oh man that's a shame.
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German DD buff yes/no?
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>>165321413
DD nerf yes/no?
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>>165321475
gas baBBies yes/yes?
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>tier VIII match in the Dunk
>the only tier VI BB
Well I'm glad HE exists.
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>>165321515
gas CVnts yes/yes?
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>>165321515
Ban anyone who plays more than 20% BB's and don't div with them.
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>>165321641
that's most of the /vg/ chat gone, imagine the complaining about not getting a div to carry them after that
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What's a good win rate?
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midnight snack edition hotel
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>>165322485
a positive one that's improving
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>>165322485
Good. Then the cancer will be purged.
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>>165322510
Have a good sleep Hotelanon.
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>>165322653
b-but its snack time
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>>165322485
Like 3
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>>165322510
Fuck you for not divving with me.
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>>165322841
Yeah but I guess you're going to sleep after that.
Enjoy your snack and sleep tight.
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>>165322510
> Rice.
> Not sherbet ice cream.
>>
Goodnight /wowsg/
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>>165323343
I really hate you Unryuu friend for making me like Unryuu.
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>>165323763
Hate is a strong word, Anon.
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>>165324028
You don't understand how much Unryuu makes me twist in strange ways.
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unryu is literally shit tier compared to her superior sisters
kys unryu lovers
especially you unryu_kai
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>>165324546
fuck off mako
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>>165324463
What does this mean?
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>>165324660
jesus christ, is that supposed to be a c6n1?

that artist should neck himself
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>>165324660
She makes my dick erect in every way.
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>>165325009
Please do not sexualize.
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>>165325105
To late.
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forced meme
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A NM hit my Bismarck with a 30K volley at 8km
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WG needs to stop letting their fetishes seep into the game.
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>>165325614
>>
>tfw less than 60k damage t7
>tfw get a kraken on a killsteal

Feels good man.
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>>165325584
You giving him broadside or what?
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>>165325731
I want Z1 to cream pie my boipucci.
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>>165325907
girl don't have cock,anon
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>>165325884
Even with broadside I fucking struggle to do 12, maybe 15K against a STATIC 100% broadside target at that range in my Bismarck
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>>165325584
Yeah, and? That's what's supposed to happen.
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>>165326106
But you have DD strapped to each side of your ship
Is balanse enough)))
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>>165325614
10/10 post, What's your IGN ?
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>>165326192
Ah yes I forgot that's just the normal thing to happen, happens all the time, literally all the time
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>>165319406
>How the fuck do you get into cruisers.
1.Buy Atagoy or Kutuzov, Molotov
2. Feel the Balans )))))))))
>>
70% of this game is RNG

It's """""fun"""""
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>>165326410
d-don't bully Mako!
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>>165326682
t. DotA 2
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>shotgunning a Agato with a full frontal salvo in the citadel at point blank range with the Spee

10/10, That made my whole career of playing WoWs so far.
>>
Hitting citadels is 90% luck but nobody would want to admit it
>>
Does anyone actually believe the meme that Iowa was a good ship?
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>>165326410
eh mako who sia

he think he big fuck meh

ask him find me down at ion orchard we 1v1 see hu more satki la
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>>165326829
jus lik how how u were born kek
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>>165327712
Gun is quite accurate
But citadel is a stick up
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>>165326506
Better be asanagi
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>unlocking the Graf with the Bisco

Like pottery
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>>165321126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3RToBymttA
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What premium ship would you recommend for easy xp/credits farming?

Not Scharnhorst or Tirpitz, since I already am doing the German BB line.
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>>165330009
:vomit:
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>>165330073
belfast
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>>165330073
But you just listed the two most braindead premium ships to do well in with excellent xp and credit potential
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>>165330641

Eh, too high tier.

What about Ishizuchi for some T4 stomping?

>>165330842

Yeah, maybe I'll get the Tirpitz. I just think the Gneisnau/Bismark er better, since they're secondary heavy which suits my close-in play style.
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>>165330073
>already doing the BB line
>not picking the prem botes that can also help boost Captain exp gain

i dun understand
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>>165330967

I.... didn't think of that.

I just started playing a week ago and I'm at the Gneisnau now, having loads of fun.
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>>165330923
I'd say take Scharnhorst over Tirpitz. Bismarck honestly feels better than Tirpitz. The torps are very limited in range (6km) compared to Bismarcks up to 10.6km secondaries. Scharnhorst is a very fun ship. Her guns are nice but take a bit of time getting used to.Perfect captain trainer for Bismarck and up.
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>>165331067
Oh and Scharnhorst is probably the best ship to farm XP and creds.
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>>165330923

Nvm, Ishizuchi is shit. Guess I'll go with the Scharnhorst.

>>165331067
>>165331150

Thanks. May I ask why she's the best? Though if she's anything as good as the Gneisnau, it doesn't surprise me.
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>cross the entire map to an undefended carrier
>have your buddy in a Kamikaze chase her into a collision course with you
>smash yourself into said carrier instead of ever using your torps or guns

what just happened and why
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>>165331058
You don't have to retrain captains TO premium ships, so for example, if you had either the Scharnhorst or Tirpitz, and you finish the grind for the Bismarck, you can put your captain onto the Bismarck, start the retraining, then put him on your premium and play without having gimped captain skills. Then, you can play the Bismarck without having a gimped captain.
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>>165331254
It's far easier to just pay the 500 doubs and be done with it.
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>>165330967
I don't ever use my premiums as crew trainers and never have.

Call me retarded, but I like having permanent crews with skills tailored to the specific tonk/bote.
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>>165331254

Interesting, but as >>165331323 said, I'm a wagecuck, so paying for the retraining isn't a big deal.
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>>165331204
She's a very agile and tanky ship, much like the Gneisenau. The Gneisenau has 3x2 380mm guns while the Scharnhorst has 3x3 283mm guns. They reload faster but the tradeoff is lower alpha damage and less penetration power.

Scharnhorst is a very good Anti-CA ship while still being able to be a genuine threat to BBs. As long as you don't expect citpens, Scharnhorst will shine with great secondaries, torpedos, speed and survivability. If you spec her for brawling, she becomes a beast, even more than the Gneisenau. You'll rake in credits and XP while being a frontline fighter. Her weak side is range and dispersion, so make sure you close the gap to the enemy.
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>>165331384

All right, you sold me.
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>>165331375
Entirely understandable.
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>>165325947
>z1
>girl
>>
Unryuuposter > Hotelposter
>>
Spee-chan is a slow turd. Waste of time.
>>
>>165331358
No one asked you, anyway.
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>>165332743
Your a sloe tard.
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>>165332826
Well ain't you a badass.
>>
>>165332743
wow rude

she does her best, and you act like an ass
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>Play Fuso
>Graf Spree is no where to be seen
>Pick something else
>3 Graf per team
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>>165333810
You wanted to be citted by Graf?
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>>165334007
>Graf
>Citting anything angled
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>>165333670
>>165333458
t. chubby chasers.
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>>165334368
>chubby
at least she is not fat like the US BBs
>>
the wg head dev guy for WoWS just started an AmA on the WoWS sub leddit.

rev up those account and post some good questions.
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>>165334565
At least they have Armour under all that fat unlike this slut.
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>>165334598
>reddit

r u tryin to trik me into goin redit
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>>165334750
don't you already have five different "anusmati" reddit accounts?
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>>165331150
Atago and Belfast are better.

>>165331225
Minekaze was nerfed pretty hard.
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I want to slam my torpedo into Fubuki.
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>zao unmodded right out of the store
>17km range
>14s reload
>8km torps
>12km detection
who would think this is fine on tier x? if i hadnt killstealed a gearing and a des memes while capping and setting a bb on fire over a island that blockef most of my shots i would have had a absolutely shit first match

t. ibuki main
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>>165335329
are you retarded
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>>165335329
Zao is shit desu
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>>165314182
what secondaries would benefit from this

doesnt most of them fire ap anyway
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>>165335556
>doesnt most of them fire ap anyway
Japanese 152mm (from T4-T8) fire AP and that's about it
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>>165335329
The guns are a lot better than Ibuki's, the armor is a tiny bit better (not like it matters), the rest is on par or worse.

Overall, it's an upgrade.
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>>165326410
>Edinburgh
>CA

I thought you're smart, LunaticRed?
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>>165335719
>not like it matters
Actually it does.
IIRC, Ibuki has 25mm side while Zao 30. Meaning Zao cannot be overmatched at side hit with 406mm guns
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>>165335430

That gif is supposed to be
>that's retarded, but I like it

You used it wrong, new friend.
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>>165336229
i looked at the thumbnail and it looked fitting then i saw the rest and regretted it
>>
is dat faggot raptor finally gone after embarassing himself countless times?
>>
>>165336278
>I looked at the X and it looked fitting then I saw the rest and regretted it
Same feelings about this game.
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>>165336129
Well, some parts are 30mm.

But the front, rear and lower side (actually, the torpedo bulges outside the belt) are 25mm, which means any hit there is going through.

Hindenburg is WAY better off, and DM has a better internal arrangement that makes her take far fewer citpens.
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>>165335669
so exactly the ones that would shrek DDs with he fires ap

will this make biskos dangerous to CAs?
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>>165335430
yes obviously. zao doesnt feel like a upgrade even with the mods on. im gonna train his captain asap but afaik i wont zao too often, ibuki just feels better

alos wtr really needs some looking at

>>165336129
nice i guess, pity it sees a lot of 420blazeit and 460mm barrels

>>165337056
fuck. not even this little.
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>Admiral Graf Spee
>graf means count or earl
>ship is called Admiral Count Spee or Admiral Earl Spee
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>>165337352
>admiral earl's pee
this pun will never get the attention it deserves
>>
>>165337298
I don't know what you're doing wrong, Zao feels like an absolutely massive upgrade, and I even enjoyed the Ibuki.
Even without taking full advantage of the invisifiring she feels like one of the easiest T10s to farm damage on at least, even if she still shares a few of the other cruiser problems, her main battery is just so stupidly good, with more guns that land more shells that do more damage and reload quicker.
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>>165337056
Behind torpedo bulges is the main belt. Torpedo bulges don't recieve damage, its one of the main reasons you sometimes get penetration yet no damage.
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>>165335669
>Japanese 152 mm
>T7,8
lmao

>>165337403
That doesn't work at all. It's "Admiral Earl's Pay"
"Bae sex pee" is the only patrician WoWs pun.
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after all can zao bow on meme on 406mm baBBies?
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>being Zao
>being spotted
????????????
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>>165300235

>here's my argument in form of a cartoon picture why this ship doesn't look good

Just end your life anon.
>>
Who here ready to join a real unicum clan when CBs start?
>>
>>165338825
No, all cruisers can get penned through the bow.

But Hindenburg has some parts that will make things bounce, because she has armor.
DM has an inernla setup thta minimizes citpens even if teh bow gets penned.
Zao should be fuckign invisible, if they see you get your shit together, jesus christ stop being terrible.
Moskva is BALANS))))))
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>>165339089
you mean a unicum /wowsg/ clan, or a unicum normie clan?
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>>165338825
Depending on range If BB shell is grouped right then you will take at least 10k damage
I have better luck deflecting 18" shell with Des Moines turret face
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>>165334368
I forgot she was from Admiral Graf Spee. I thought it was Admiral Hipper for some reason.
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>>165339089
Join the other clans.
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>>165334750
No, don't go. Please.

The last thing I need is you cancerous fucks ruining the little good there.
>>
>>165339612
Maybe we should all team kill you, Godzilla.
>>
>>165339673
...yeah, sure?
>>
>Saipan's DBs
These things are absolutely cancerous
>>
>be kraut DD
>shoot gun
>get spotted from the moon
Why?
>>
>>165339830
Nah.
>>
>>165340390
future dd nerf

but yes they are pretty much slow ))) dds with poor gunnery and torps
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>>165340410
Ya.
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>>165340390
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>165340390
There are showcases for how WG intends DDs to be in the future.
>>
>>165340390
Kinda sad about them being so shit now. Well. I'll just put them on hold until they become viable again.
>>
>>165340390
Blame the BB players, as if BB aren't strong enough global DD/CA nerf incoming
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>>165340410
t.Saipan owner
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>>165338825
Bow- no.
Side? Maybe, just don't overangle and present broadside.
Anyway, if you want to side/deck bounce memes pick Moskva. That ship is Russian bias manifested as cruiser
>>
>>165340725
>short smoke
>can't stealth fire
So, irrelevant?
>>
I want to breed a battleship.
>>
>>165340410
>T9 planes with T9 survivability
>except now there's 8 of them or 9, because sealclubbing memes
>can potentially see this at T5, where AA is practically nonexistent
Please explain to me how any of this is anything but cancerous.
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>>165340756

They should nerf the shit out of sniping. Sub-10 km battles are the best, then CAs and DDs would be more dangerous since most of them have torps.
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>>165340850
Ducks are better.
>>
>>165340785
That's called balanse.
>>
>>165340850
Claiming Nagamon.
>>
admitting everyone wants a clan tag when 0.6.0.0 arrives what would you rather have?

poast suggestions
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>>165340734
Honesly, my biggest problem with them is that they practically stop evolving after t8.
I mean look at the difference between T8 and T10. You get AA, and... That's it for the most part
>>
>>165340984
WG is going to expand clan numbers. Sub_Octavian says they can't do that straight up to 100 right now, but that they will do increased clan limits.
>>
>>165340984
tfwnogf
>>
>>165340520
Nah.

>>165340774
Correct.

>>165340895
Need a 15pt capt really and AA is more than good enough for most cases at T7.

Inferior to silver T7 CV in some cases due to more planes.

Can say the same about all T7 CV who see T5 and they have torp bombers and more in general.
>>
>>165340984
[BOATS]
>>
>>165341318
not sure if autistic
>>
>>165341312
Ya.
>>
>>165341318
[DINGY]
>>
>>165340850
>>165340961
Kongo is mine.
>>
>>165339435
A high functioning autism unicum clan like OM.
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>>165340984
NOPAN
>>
>>165340984
[CVSUX]
>>
>>165341029
And as far as I've heard the AA is shit on it. The DDs would be way more viable if they actually had the german hydro instead of the gimped version.
>>
>>165341864
Thing is that when they got the gimped version they still had the invisifire range, so it kind of made sense because they'd be too good at that point. Then they got the invisifire nerfed too and now they don't seem to have anything going for them.
>>
>>165326410
Fuck off Mako
>>
>>165338825
I dunno. I can regularly citadel a Zao with my NC even when he's fully bow-on.

Or maybe it's just the plunging fire of the AP shell just punching through her deck.
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>>165340850
I want to have tea with one.
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>>165342371
Or four

Kirishima best bongo
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>>165342371
>That pink color soup
>Tea
ewww
>>
>>165341864
The AA is actually OK, and even becomes good if you use AA modules.

The problem, as with pretty much all AA at t9 and t10, is that 'OK' means it might as well not exist because the t10 CV doesn't give a flying fuck.
And if it's #good', teh t10 CV stilly doesn't give a fuck or simply avoids you.

In the end, Z52 is a gun DD that can't really use its guns, has German memem AP that even shatters on enemy DD (though that AP problem is far worse on Hindenburg) and appears to be jusst big enough to take full AP pens instead of mostly overpesn, though that is a problem shared by pretty much all other t10 DDs.
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>>165342637
Apologies. I should be more refined, I know.
>>
>>165340850
>to breed a battleship.

>leave two of you BBs at dry dock
>Go sail around a bunch
>Come back
>Harbor master flags you down
>Hey! Your ships were holding a PT boat! We don't know how it got there, but you can have it!
>>
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>>165342873
Now that's more like it. Have a REAL LADY™ kongou in return.
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>>165343067
:3
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>play solo
>enjoy the game and have great results

Division whores who constantly beg for divisions are little bitches who can't carry their own weigh.
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>>165343483
Upvoted!
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>>165343483
>tfw enjoy both so I really enjoy playing in a div but I'm happy to play solo when friends aren't online
feels good man
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>>165343483
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>>165343587
t.

MoshEvo!
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>>165343635
t.

Sub 54% solo "Unicum"
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>>165340850
Claiming Warspite.
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>>165343762
so is he ded now or what?
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>>165343653
>>165343587
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>>165340850
I will take Iowa if you don't mind
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>>165343483
What about division whores who don't have to beg because they already have stable divmates?
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Which is better keeper for a T7 dd, Shira or Akitsuki?
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>>165344454
Akatsuki*
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>>165344454
probably Shiratsuyu
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>>165340984
[FAGS]
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>>165343851

Who cares? At least he stopped shitting up the thread with his poorly made webms that show his only decent kills.
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>>165340984
[KEKS]
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>>165339186
Balti and DM can tank Gneisenau and Bismarck shells. Considering how popular KM BBs are, this is actually a useful attribute.

>>165343272
>:3
Looks more like ¦D to me.
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>>165321126

It means that we aren't getting French BB's, we're likely getting DD's and CA's. Which makes sense, way more CA's and CA designs from France to make a full tree, and their DD's are something to behold. If you thought the RU DD's were basically CA's w/o a citadel wait till you see the French DD's. Also, they might as well be torpedo's themselves with how fast they are.
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>>165318519

Play CoOp. Once you've unlocked the boats you want and have your commanders more or less set, dive into CoOp and never come up for air. Much more fun, faster matches and if you play the way I assume you want to play you'll break even 90% of the time.
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>>165343851
He was ostracized for acting like an insufferable cunt and embarassing the clan.
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>>165345018
>Balti and DM can tank Gneisenau and Bismarck shells. Considering how popular KM BBs are, this is actually a useful attribute.
I know, but two or three threads ago some asshurt autist from NA went on and on and on about how this frontal immunity to Bismarck, Tirpitz (and Scharnhorst) doesn't matter for some reason, and pointing out that the 38cm guns on all those KM BBs are statistically the ones you will most likely face triggered him even more.

That's why I didn't want to bring that up again.
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>>165344959
Now we need to kick out Arlios.
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>>165345497

Not him but if you think frontal immunity in the Baltimore from the 38's on a few BB's makes up for the absolute shittiness of the Balt I suggest you go play it.

You're like the guy that gets a big pile of shit on a plate in a restaurant and goes, "Well at least they put it on a bun!" Yeah that might be nice, but it's hardly the point.

I'll call your bluff. Go play 20 matches in the Balt and lets see what that does to your WR and WTR.
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>>165345497
Batlimore and DM need to be nerfed, their 27 mm bows are incostitutional.

From the international BaBBie rule:
>"Cruisers shall be unable to tank battleship shells, whatever their relative orientation might be"
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what do you guys think about using elite exp as a excuse to cap commander skill points to 10?
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>>165346142
I do not need to think about it because it will never happen.
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>>165341029
>practically stop evolving after t8.
Use a lightning stone to force evolution.
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>>165346142

A complete waste of time? It will take ~150k XP to go 0 to 10 so you're talking about spending millions of XP to do a decent number of Captains to 10. Even if it's just topping off, 9-10 takes 50k in the new system, so even if you only do 4 it's 200k XP.

Elite XP is a complete waste of time/feature as to gain enough to make it worthwhile you might as well just play as the captain you want to level up.
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>>165346448
Did you just assume its future form!?!?!
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>first game in Graf
>uptiered to 8
Fun and engaging.
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>>165345689
Not him, but, I have close to 100 games in Baltimore, and still don't why people call it piece of crap. Mediocre? Maybe. Outright shit? In no case
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>>165347364
Your typical cruiser player from here shows broadside, gets killed and then complains.

It's never their fault, you see.
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>>165345689
No, that's not what I meant to imply here.

I know that Balti and DM being able to do this does not make up for bltimre's general awfulness and DM's one-trick-ponyness.

But on Baltimore, it is actually a relevant thing becasue you meet lots of tthose 28cm guns, and they can't do shit to you if you simply bow-on and reverse while shittign napalm all over them (or AP, if they show you a bit of broadside)

If you attempt to play Balti like Ubuki, you will fail. Kiting things like you do in Roon is impossible, and staying at super long range like in Donskoi is also impossible because your shells are too fuckign slow.

So, use the one thing you have. By which I mean you national peculiartiy, your strong AA)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Just kidding, go bow in and roast those kraut BBs.
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>Me playing Graf Spee campaign
>"Wow, Emerald grinds herself"
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>>165346142
>completely rework the skill tree to offer more variety in builds
>make it impossible to get more than one four point skill
Genius, when is WG hiring you?
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>>165345689
>Did you know that X can't be overmatched by Y?
>Ur bluffing!!! dat ship no winsss. its baaadddddd
Holy shit, cool your autism

>>165343064
>>165346448
>Poképosting
Trying to force a new meme?

>>165346610
>The best use of Elite XP will be to nudge functional captains towards the skill cap
'''no'''
Currently no one cares about accelerated training until the 14th point because the 6th point is earned relatively quickly and in most cases that makes the captain effectively ~80% complete. That's about to change.
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>>165347364
>>165347421

My complaint isn't the paper armor, my complaints are that her guns, AP, HE, range, fire chance, penetration, HP, and reload speed are all below that of almost every cruiser she sees, up or down.

And all this is explainable by the fact she was designed (ingame) to be the T7 CA when they were going to at the outset have a separate CL/CA line for the USN, and have the split be at T5, but then reshuffled to make 1 CL/CA line and she wasn't appropriately buffed to fit at T9. Remember, she's received a number of buffs over the last year. She was actually WORSE than she is now. I mean compare her on base terms to the Myoko (who she was supposed to be tiered with) and she kinda makes sense all of a sudden. But pit her against the Ibuki and well... yeah she's pretty awful. Radar helped with DD's a bit, but it still doesn't make up for her primary flaw of having the lowest DPM of any CA in the entire game. The friggen Aoba can put out a higher DPM.
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>>165347882
>>Did you know that X can't be overmatched by Y?
>>Ur bluffing!!! dat ship no winsss. its baaadddddd
>Holy shit, cool your autism

Didn't say he was bluffing. Yeah it can't be overmatched. So what? I can't be overmatched in the Izumo by a Zao but which boat would you rather be in, in that situation? There's alot more to playing than sitting still bow in and trying to snipe at max range.
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>Take Atlanta for a spin
>Get a match with a Lexi
>Fuck yeah

>He's AFK all match
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>about to get Mogami
>super excited, have a good commander set up and it's great to not have to worry about stock gun grind
>read about her IRL
>don't really want Mogami anymore
she rammed her own sister at night because they detected a submarine, then they were both bombed for three days
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>>165348150
>Didn't say he was bluffing.
>>165345689
>I'll call your bluff.

>Yeah it can't be overmatched. So what?
So that's the answer to the originally posed question.

Autismal as fuck m8
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>>165348917

Oh I didn't realize I was dealing with someone that can't read and is retarded. Sperg away dude.

The balt is aweful. Everyone knows this. Stats wise it's the worst preforming ship across most tiers, her own stats are sub standard to all other CA's she sees and even some she doesn't. And despite her radar, she still has a hard time dealing with DD's due to flight time on shells and her terrible ROF. This says nothing of her abysmal fire chance and weak penetration with AP. She's not even good at doing the things CA's are supposed to do.
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>>165348591
Hope you have a 15 point captain with CE, or you're gonna have a bad time.
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>>165347958
>Baltimore
>bad AP pen
What's next,? Des Moines has bad pen?
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>>165349220
Bullshite, she can tank 380 mm shells
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How good are the Graf's secondaries?
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>>165349347
not very
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>>165349347
ha
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>>165349220
>American AP
>Bad
no, just no
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>>165349303

Compared to the Mogami 203? Compared to the Ibuki? Compared to the Zao? Compared to the Roon? Compared to really every other CA at it's tier range? At this point I think you're a troll since you clearly don't get how these boats play off of each other and that the balt is all round the worst preforming ship in the game.

>>165349314

>lookmomIposteditagain.jpeg
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>>165349347
Not enough of them and since its T6, it doesn't get the benefit of MSec
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>>165349303

Even friggen WGing has said they intend to buff the Balt as it is not preforming to the level they want.
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>USN Super Heavy 8" AP is bad
>USN Super Heavy 8" AP is worse than German 8" AP

what am i fucking reading
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>>165340850

t. mom's basement HQ
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>>165350127
I know that. But this is honestly the first time I saw anyone complain about USN 203mm AP.
Compared to Zao/Moskva? Yeah, it kinda sucks. But compared to everyone else?
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>>165307658
The only post I made this thread was the OP!
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>>165350271

USN Baltimore AP 8" @ 10 km = ~250mm

Roon AP 8" @ 10 km = ~255.

Functionally the same.

Here's the real problem

Max AP damage 8" Baltimore = 5000
Roon AP Max Damage 8" = 5900

Just so we're clear. Not only is the Roon slightly better at penning, it also will do noticeably more damage when it gets there.
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>tfw this is the year when my Waifu will be added
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>>165350804
Implying this matters at all
USN 8" RNG bounce zone 60-67 degrees, above that it is autobounce
KMS 8" RNG bounce zone 45- 60 degrees, above that autobounce.
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>>165350804
What formula did you base this fucking horseshit on?
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>>165350804
According to armor penetration curves thread Roon has around 200mm pen, not 250
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>>165351018

Wow if that's not an example of

>bu-but autbounce!
>bu-but RNG

I mean does it physically hurt you to admit the Balt is a sub standard CA? That it under preforms in almost every area other than AA (fuckingwow) to every CA it sees?
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>>165351145
KMS 8" AP is trash unless the target is broadside since it gets fucked by RNG autobounce mechanics.
USN 8" AP can actually have a decent chance penetrating angled targets.

I don't why you disregard this, doesn't matter if KMS 8" has potential to do 1K more damage when it performs so bad on angled targets.
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I have over 6k battles and this is the first time I've ever been legitimately upset at a shitter.

#1
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>>165351510
>7142 FPS
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#2
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>>165351510
you sure he didn't just have a long loading time?
once or twice I've come in at around the 18 minute mark because the game has crashed on loading or it's kicked me back to the login screen for some unknown reason mid-loading
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>>165351510
>shitter
maybe when the red mist clears you'll realize he was just AKF for like two minutes. which still sucks, but it happens.
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#3

>>165351686
No, he was moving and typing in the chat at the start.
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>>165350948
Not so fast there Graf fucker.
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#4
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>>165351986
>Arsonist
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>>165351986
Kek
The fucking arsonist award is perfect
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DED THRED

DED GAME
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wow the tirpitz camo in the santa convoy is amazing for grinding free xp.
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>>165354131
Not dead.
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>>165354654
>Unryuu not in game
Why?
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>>165351986
God, there's nothing worse than shitter, backfield sniping, armchair admirals
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>a yamato player on /wowsg/puts a hit out on enderwiggins5000 yesterday
>get matched up with him somehow
>about to strike
>enemy DD deletes him with torps before I got a good shot at him
fuck. If you're reading this, I'll try again today.
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>>165354619
Is it?
I'm still trying to make the Tirpitz work ;_;
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>>165355819
ya its +50% xp and +100% free xp add flags to it and its easy 2k+ per game.
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>>165356247
If only I could make the fucking thing work
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>>165356247
Did you just give the secret away?
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>>165356612
but the anon said the secret wasnt camos and flags :^)
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>>165355712
who can stand playing like that? i have to be in the thick of it in order to have any fun
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>tfw no tirpitz
>can't complete the convoy campaign
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>>165357281
Be a good goy and go buy one right away, we need more funds to keep chat from dying(((((((((
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>>165357265
The worst part is that people like that probably sit there think "If only these idiots would listen me we would win!" not realizing they're doing far more to harm their chances of winning than anyone else.
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>>165356247
>ya its +50% xp and +100% free xp

proofs?
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>>165357281
there's one easy way to solve this issue
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>>165357564
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>>165357564
Not the anon but here's a pic of what mine says
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>>165357905
Oh shit i'm getting on, i'm chat banned atm
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>>165351018
Autobounce is the single most useless attribute to AP shells

It goes:
>Alpha damage
>Penetration over distance
>trajectory
>autobounce
>normalisation (it was standardized)

If you're shooting cruiser AP where USN autobounce values might make the difference you're probably not going to citadel anything and you should be using HE instead.
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>>165358328
You do realise you are full of shit
German AP is completely unreliable the moment the target angles over 45 degrees.
Penetration and damage are irrelevent then
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Not going to lie I'm a little lost. I know I need to get in close with a Tirpitz but -how- do I do that? Every time I try I usually get fucked by everything with greater range than me, and I can shoot back because the Tirp has no penetration at long range.
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>>165358525
You let them come to you.
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>>165358523
any AP but usn ap is like that

USN won the war so they get more forgiving bounce angles

>>165358525
follow the lead of DDs and use islands as covers

take note that if you get close in the beginning of the battle you will die very fast. plan really carefully how you will YOLO
>>
the fact that they are pushing free xp hard is a sure sign that those new "equipment" things they talked about in the 2017 diary probably will be purchased with it
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>>165358863
Is this the future we chose?
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>>165358863
What equipment?
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>>165358523
Which is why you shift to HE.
If your shells need those 7 additional degrees of autobounce that USN shells grants, you're dealing subpar AP damage and most certainly worse than assured HE damage plus DoT from fires.
And good luck hitting shit reliabily with those arcs.
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>>165358993
they werent specific about it, but they said something about making the ships you like better with new unique equipment
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>>165358863
If they're pushing it this hard they'll need to up the rates more than just five fucking percent. I know they're gonna say "just buy it with doubloons :^)" but to most who won't want to do that, they're going to hear an endless sea of bitching.
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So why are people freaking out over the possibility of missiles in WoW?

I mean, I can imagine how bad they /could/ be, but sperging out about it before you even get the slightest hint of how it would work is pretty fucking autistic.

What do you lot think about missiles?
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>>165359546
>What do you lot think about missiles?

Iowa (D) Hull can't get here quick enough
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>>165359252
>iowa with CWIS
>yamato with honorable beam energy cannon
>gearing with SAM missiles
>funbucket with jet thrusters and supercavity torpedoes
>moscow with AShM
>jet planes, heavy bombers and spy sattelites consumables for CVs
>one nuke per side, plus one more per CV
>new game mode: D-Day
>it is a worse epicenter

>>165359546
not a big deal. CWIS might, but thats really hard to tell

most AShM couldnt pierce trhu BB armor. they would be at best a anti DD weapon but would have a long arm time, so likely it would be something like 8 shots with 5 min CD on iOwnAAA.
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>>165359546
>it's pretty fucking autistic.
Unless you actually know how often WG fucks up and then you should feel stupid for using a irrelevant buzzword.
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>>165359089
Also, USN AP shells only work with DM that can shit out a ton of them.
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>>165359950
Odd, WG insists tha all US CA's have good AP.
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>>165358863
Or maybe they just added a 750k free exp sink and want it to be slightly more obtainable than the holy grail to people without 30k doubloons lying around. Especially with chances that more of those ships are coming. Saying the new upgrades are something you earn and not buy makes it sound more like a campaign reward than anything else.
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>>165358525
Join the gangbang on one or two ships that isolated themselves.
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>>165359910
>Irrelevant buzzword
Youtubers and Plebbitors screeching at the slightest hint of change like a retarded frogposter before you have even confirmation that it's even missiles is pretty autistic Anon.
I chose that word very specifically.
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>>165360078
it doesnt necessarily means a doublon sink but its unlikely it wont work that way

what if its a "premium" tier? tier XI where you can take you D hull Iowa to face super yamato and other DDs with super cavity torpedoes and shit.
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>>165355716
>fuck. If you're reading this, I'll try again today.
I wish I was on NA so I could join the hunt for enderwiggins5000. But alas, my high tier account is EU.
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>>165360519
>>165355716
can i has context?
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>>165354797
She has even less battles on her than Hotel, and that's something. If I recall correctly, she was much as Graf Zeppelin, never got to even carry planes.
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>>165360630
click link to last thread, ctrl+f enderwiggins5000
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>>165358525

Brawling is a skill in this game, with the current sniping meta, and the almost-every-cruiser-has-torps meta, and British cruisers with torps AND smoke.

Early on you wanna try and find a straggler and gangbang him with a couple of friends, otherwise try and trade hits with whatever ship you can. Remember to angle your ship.

Once the mid-game hits and you're winning/losing that's when you can find isolated targets that you can quickly kill with close range AP/torps.

If I'm about to lose, or most of your team is dead, I just YOLO into the easiest/closest target. Sometimes I get lucky and get multiple kills, so even with a loss, I get some decent XP/credits.

It might be shit advice, but it's what I've been doing with success. The only bad games are the ones where the team absolutely REFUSES to go in and just sits back and snipes, and the game ends on timer with a few dead either side.

t. Gneusnau player who started less than 2 weeks ago
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>>165360303
>screeching at the slightest hint of change
The irony is that the actual diagosed players aren't doing that.
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So WarGaming thinks that Jap destroyers are perfectly fine and that they should be played like gunboats despite having glacial turret traverses and rate of fire slow enough the guns must be being reloaded by fat Americans.
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>dodging torpedoes in qt hotel
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>>165361996
I can't argue the truth.
Especially since I'm an official autist and the backlash over nothing so far is mystifying me.
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>>165362038
If that makes you feel better, Pensa also was fine until it suddenly started needing a buff
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>>165362365
if CVs were to become more common suddenly many USN CA would be okay

this game really needs tweaking. DDs are becoming lame, BBs are not nerfed enought and CAs are just forgotten
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>>165362038
no speed no torps no turret turn or shell velocity makes them kinda roleless. they are not even flavorless and jack of all trades, they are just not useful
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>>165363859
Fubuki can still get 3 kills, they can still he spam at bb's from smoke and annihilate cv's.
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>>165362354
WG fucked up WOT to the point that a lot of players left and some modders just stopped making packs for it. I'm keeping that in mind mostly.
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>>165362951

If you mean nerfing long range fire for BBs, then I completely agree.
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>>165364254
a smoke that lasts less that other DDs, is laid for less time that the standard smoke and its being used on a tactic that, against a modicum of skill, fails spetacularly. torp spam simply fails against any awareness thanks to the fact that the torps are even slower that before.

im just glad i have fujin. im suddenly very uninterested on poi and RN DD preview.

>>165364479
wat did dey do to wot?

>>165365049
dispersion for shooting outside of target acquisition range when?
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>>165364479
What did they do and whewn?
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>>165365164
I think BB's should be capped at 10km, and horribly dispersion outside of 5km.
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>>165365281

5 is a little extreme, but much beyond 12 km should just be luck and/or dedication.
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>>165365481
>>165365281
it should be based on the BB's target acquisition range

>target is within sight, inside lock on range
>no nurfs
>target is hidden and ally is spotting
>no dispersion buffs from skills and mods
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>>165365662
Increase their detection range, decrease their spotting range, remove spotting aircraft and limit their range to 10km max. There we go. Cancer removed.
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>>165365662

Not bad, actually.
>>
What is the easiest class of ship to start with as a new player?
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>>165366612
CV
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>>165366612
US CVs or russian cruisers
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>>165366612

Cruiser or BB
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>>165359546
Seems like it's mostly just joking about how the russians are getting them first so they're going to be balnse)) but stalin himself.
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Can i still use a referral code if i played this once when it was in alpha (or something, shit had like 2 ships or so)

I remember rushing like a tard, getting rekt then uninstalling but now i want to give boats a chance.

i play wot almost every day, if that somehow affect the referral thing
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>>165366716
>>165366878
>Carriers being easier than BB's.
Since when has this been a meme?
I know CV gameplay is boring as shit but it's a damn sight harder to be a half decent carrier than it is to be a good BB, especially at lower levels.
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>>165367146
You can try and see, here you go

https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/Qnxmowp
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>>165367146
>i play wot almost every day, if that somehow affect the referral thing
It doesn't
It is said that if you haven't played for x months, you can become someone's recruit bygetting back into the game.
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>>165367146
You should be fine to use one. Playing WoT won't matter either, it's only based on how much/how recently you played botes.
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>>165367213
I think they're taking the piss.
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>>165367213
As a bottom tier BB you are fukt, especially after tier 5. A bottom tier cv can still strafe and threaten enemy planes and ships.
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how am I supposed to play KM DDs? I can't seem to get shit done in the T-22
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>>165367789
gun down jap DDs and ambush battleboats from behind islands or smoke
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I'd like to be scuttled now, please.
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>>165367570
Never underestimate the victim complex of BB players.

>>165367602
Lad, low tier maps are so tiny that most CV's don't survive until the end of the match, regardless of who wins unless the DD's are actually retarded.

If you are getting torped by babby CV's just learning to play then that is your own learning curve you gotta climb because it's not as if you'll see less as you progress.
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Why can't I just collect containers full of free xp. I want want credits, flags, or consumables.
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>>165367146
Here's a referral for EU:
http://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/jwWaGg1
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>>165367995

So what's up with this victim complex that baBBies have?

They actually want to sit 20 km back and snipe all day?

FUCK that shit.
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>>165368341

Assuming you're not trolling the victim complex is due to being on fire constantly, being erased by an invisible destroyer's wall of skill, or being merked by a carrier.
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>>165368341
BB players get blamed for everything that's wrong with the game now because apparently they have a mafia that controls all of the balance patches.
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>>165368698
And thats all baBBies should be good for. Floating HP boxes to take fire.
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>>165368341
Complacency.

KM BB's are pretty bro-tier but the others point-blank refuse to use their larger health pools, better armour and repairs to actually push objectives and instead expect every single squishier ship to take the punishment they are designed to soak up.

>t.Disgruntled Escort Cruiser sick of baBBies hiding in his petticoat tails.
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>>165367995
>>165368341
>victim complex of BB players
I don't play like the guys you're talking about, but maybe it's the fact that they're constantly on fire, constantly firebomb-torp-firebomb-torp-skilled by CVs, and pretty much everyone's primary target. I'm usually out in the front trying to push points and help my teammates, but I'm not going to pretend like those problems don't exist. Sitting at 10-line and sniping would just make me want to kill myself.
Only time I don't do this stuff is Tirpitz
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>spends money to buy a ship with radar but never uses it

dude autism lmao
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>>165367789
stop at tier 5 and do russians
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>>165368816
>Over 50% of my games have been in a BB
>Enjoy them
>Never once visited the forums or made an angry forum post demanding buffs
>Learn to tank damage, push flanks, cap zones

I guess I will forever be labeled a whiny baBBy in the eye's of /wowsg/
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>>165368956
See?
German BB's discourage players from behaving like fucking pansies and they actually get shit done. I'm far more likely to AA and DD screen for a KM BB than any other simply because they don't fucking abandon you or sit in the middle of nowhere ignoring the objectives all match.
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>>165368698
>invisible wall of skill
>mfw

>>165368852
KM brawling best.

>>165368956
One of the good few.

>>165368698
Not trolling, was genuinely curious, but I understand now. Maining KM BBs and tired of teammates sitting back and doing nothing.
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>>165336047
>lunatic

Wrong chink, faggot.
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>>165369356
I play all the BB's including Dunk and Warspite, and I'm sailing in going trying to secure objectives, only playing more cautiously in the first few minutes of the match in slow BB's to make sure I go to the right area.
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>>165369553
Is this your split personality?
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should i buy qtzov or boxes? i still have like 320 days of prem

>>165368028
buy doooobloooons goy
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>>165369648
Mostly it's perception.
As a CA main with a DD/AA screening focus, KM BB's are a safer bet than all the others but a surefire way to get a likeminded escort cruiser to consider your ass valuable is to talk early and discuss approach methods.
Let us know you are pushing and we'll push alongside bro, we're here to help.
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>aoba
>shoot at bayern slightly angled
>3 fires
Nice
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>>165369987
>talk early and discuss approach methods
I do this constantly, there's no more an annoying feeling when I'm trying to work with my team and the conversation goes
>"plan?"
>'kill them'
and nobody talks further than that
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>>165369987
I usually don't communicate because I'm horrible, and I don't want people to expect anything.

My gunnery is not great.
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>>165369987
>Let us know you are pushing and we'll push alongside bro, we're here to help.
Problem is the same as you don't have much confidence in non-KM BBs actually taking damage and being aggressive instead of just abandoning the position the moment they start taking fire, the same exists about CA/DDs. Because I've been playing since CBT and that has never been something I've seen much, more often than not the moment the enemy team gets spotted, any escort I have with either keep charging forward and giving maximum broadside so that he explodes in a single salvo, or turn tail and run to somewhere where they're no help at all, it's been rare to actually get players that support a BB that does push at all.

I ended up completely abandoning the class because trying to play as an aggressive BB in solo games was just not enjoyable and had a much better time in CAs. At least until I started actually playing in a division with people.
It's amazing how much difference having just one or two other players that you know you can count on makes, no matter what class, and it saved playing BBs for me (and made me enjoy the other classes a hell of a lot more too, playing with teamwork and trying to help each other is pretty fun desu). I still don't play them solo but being able to play how I enjoy the class is pretty great, and is probably the reason that Dreadnought is tied for my most common medal.
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>>165370237

People who do that need to be gassed.

>"Plan?"
>"win ;)"
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>>165370023
Welcome to ISN CA's.
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>>165371535
*IJN
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>>165371151

This closely mirrors my own BB experiences desu.
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>>165342371
>>165342542
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>>165371849
>USN BBs
>Slow as fuck to the point that you might as well just commit to one point. So many guns you can't possibly fucking miss.
>IJN BBs
>Fast, agile (sorta), not too many guns (except Fuso), really really accurate
>KM BBs
>Decent speed, chunky monkeys with heavy hitting AP and great armor, especially when they get the turtleback.
This accurate or no?
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>raptor now also shits /simg/ up

take your spaz back
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what the fuck is this matchmaking?

The team with the Texas won. The Texas got Kraken.
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>>165372832
free cruiser kills
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>>165371151

Pretty much this. Play with randoms and they turn tail the second the enemy is spotted.

Play a same-tier KM BB with a friend, and suddenly you're dominating the first DDs/CAs you meet, followed a minute later by the first and second enemy BB as they come in on a slow conga line, thinking you're easy food when ganged up on by smaller ships.
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>>165372617

USN is accurate up till tier VIII.

IJN is accurate up to Kongo, that's as far as I've gone.

KM is also correct, tier VII sees meme secondaries and fast as fuck though.
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>>165372419
whos' the black dude supposed to be?
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>>165372617
>>165373095

Correct except you gotta ALWAYS be at 45 degree angle to whatever is shooting you, at least up until T8, can't speak for past that.
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>>165372617
>not too many guns (except Fuso)
Not really sure why I keep seeing this, the only tiers where they don't have the most guns/tied for the most guns is T4, T5 and T10. For T3, T6, T7, T8, and T9 they have the maximum number of guns for the tier when it comes to the tech trees.
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Okay I'm a little lost. I'm a KM BB main, got Bisco just last week and I've been trying to make her work.
>Gneis
Good Girl, strong as fuq back, can carry all of your problems
>Scharn
Also good girl but she cares more about bullying CA's and flicking BB's in the forehead until they cry
>Tirpitz
Bisco's shy yandere sister
>Bisco
After all my anticipation and gameplay of Gneis I expected something big but I lose health on her at a crazy rate. I'll take hits that just shave off a quarter of my health. Sort of a jarring change.
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>>165373210
I think you mean 35-40
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>>165373210

Forgot to say KM.

>>165373331

All right, didn't know this. Why? 45 degrees is the angle that should give most deflection, and most depth against penetration.
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>>165373143
The first ship of the Kongou class from Jamaica.
the joke is that in an art book it described Haruna as having fair/white skin, but it singled her out in that aspect, and didn't make a point to say the sisters had similar skin. The artist said that description basically made him think of a big black man
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>>165289030
AP bombs
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>>165372832
Only 1 BB? How does that even happen? There's so many BB players that should be impossible.
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>baBBy player
>only good at fighting cruisers and destroyers
>can't fight other baBBies to save my life
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>>165373443
Slightly smaller profile, higher chance of ricochet off plating. Especially as you start to get close to a target, you want to angle even harder, often to the point you give up using your rear guns, because it keeps you better protected.

For example, if the beam of your ship is angled 45° off the normal angle from the location of a ship 5km away from you, the impact angles of shells hitting your bow and hitting your stern is going to be drastically different from each other, due in part to the curvature of the hull. If they shoor your stern, theyr shells will ricochet. If they shoot your mid belt, their shells will bounce and ricochet due only to the sheer thickness of armor, but if they shoot your bow plating, their shells will make it through and cause damage. Thus, you need to increase your angling at closer ranges.

This was probably more than you bargained for
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>>165374158
I've been getting plenty of cruiser heavy games on NA lately, in addition to the usual BB heavy games.
More than normal anyway.
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>>165374240
There's a word for people like you Anon.

Battlecruisers.
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>>165373443
>Belt length: ~100 m
>Belt thickness: ~0.3 m
>45° will give the most depth against penetration
Where did you learn to maths?

Also, pic related
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>>165374264

No, that makes sense. Thanks.
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>>165372754
Got a link?
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>>165374528
What would be a /fun/ Bc line.
I wasn't aware there were tanky cruisers in the game.
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>>165374709
>Shell changing trajectory because of the armor piercing cap

what the hell is this from
>>
>>165375151
There's not. There's not really a true battlecruiser line either, but the IJN comes the closest.
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>>165375151
There isn't one. Kongo and Amagi are the closest you'll get. Scharnhorst is also fairly similar in concept.

Both RN and Germans have room for a possible battlecruiser line in the future, just as IJN has the potential for a split into a BC and BB line, but all of the above won't happen until a bit into the future.
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>>165375273
Oh. Well. I guess I'll stick to BB's then.

I use my IJN BB's like a BC anyway.
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>>165375505
please tell me hwo to use a BB like a BC
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>>165375505
Well yeah, it was the IJN BBs I was talking about. They at least get the Kongo and Amagi, and their other BBs aren't usually the slowest around either.
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>>165375273
>Forgetting about Russian CA/Battlecruisers
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>>165375497
You forgot Iowa and Missouri

:^)
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>>165375551
Go towards enemy, find a place to get stuck in, bully things smaller than you.
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>>165375764
omg thank you now i can play my BB like a BC
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>>165375151
>Battlecruiser line
You get battlecruisers in both battleship lines and cruiser lines. They really should make Battlecruiser lines wherever they can get away with it but I doubt they ever will.

>>165375273
Is correct, the Japs have the most Battlecruisers in their BB line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battlecruisers

>>165375551
Choose the fastest BB's with the lowest reload time you can find and just play aggressively in cruiser neighborhoods.
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>>165375738
t. Mako
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>>165375497
Is Graf Spee a Battle Cruiser? Or is she something else?
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>>165375718
You mean the Moskva?
Because the rest of the line are light cruisers and really play like it, not exactly the same thing as a battlecruiser.
>>
>>165375718
You mean the Moskva and that is it.
The Russian obsession with teeny tiny babydick 152mm guns all the way up to T8 kills me.

>>165375982
Grafs Pee is a pocket battleship.
A uniquely German idea where you put BB guns on a cruiser.

The Russians did the opposite where they took BB hulls, put no armour or decent guns on them and called them cruisers.
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>>165375551

Play a different game. BC's were supposed to be cruiser hunters that absolutely avoided heavier fleet units.
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>>165375982
She's a sort of armored cruiser/heavy cruiser.
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>>165376124
>The Russians did the opposite where they took BB hulls, put no armour or decent guns on them and called them cruisers.
I think the Kirov is the only decent one of that whole line that I've played
I'm up to Budyonny, which is a fun word to say
>>
>>165375982
Graf Zeppelin is an aircraft carrier.

Why do people keep posting Graf Zeppelin when they're talking about Graf Spee?
>>
>>165376247
Did someone say Heavy Cruiser!?
>>
>he doesn't play his CV like a DD and BB

sorry i have autism please respect my disability ok
>>
>>165376262
I liked the Kirov, and the Buddy, but man, I'm really loving the Shchors so far.
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>>165376262
You poor, poor soul.
The grind to the Donskoi is the worst I am afraid.
The other lines all have one ship that is the struggle bus, the Russian line has three.

The Budy, Schors and Chapeyev are all absolute fucking cancer ships and are a nightmare to get exp with.
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>>165376398
Because the only art of Graf Spee for boatfuckers is from burgerkollewhich was a giant scam and looks awful
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>>165376124
>the pocket battleship memes.
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>>165376430
>tfw no favorite QT heavy cruiser in world of botecraft
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>>165376398
>>165376645
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>>165376398
Not him but I genuinely thought that boteslut was of the aircraft carrier graf spee. But now I'm realising that's totally bogus because there was no aircraft carrier named graf spee, and I have no idea how I came to think that.
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>>165376825
That's from Chinkkolle but I was just about to post that too, so nice one.
They seem to do the more obscure ships but this isn't the place to discuss this
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>>165376825
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>>165376869
Probably because Graf Spee is the name that gets used more often because that ship is just talked about more often outside of KC, so you just mashed them up together in your head accidentally, both being Grafs and all.
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>>165376932
Graf Zeppelin on left
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>>165377110
It's really scary knowing that as bad as KanColle can get at times, it's still somehow better than all the derivatives.
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>>165374709

I just assumed at 45 degrees you'd have the optimal chance of either deflection, since 45 degrees give you the most deflection, but if it doesn't deflect and is absorbed, you get the most horizontal armour to absorb the kinetic energy.

Does that make any sense?
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>>165377341
Chinkkolle has a few cute ones like O'Bannon, but burgerkolle suffers from sameface and noteventrying syndrome.
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>>165377443
Chinkkolle Iowa was pretty cute
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>>165377362

Kek wait no, if what I said makes any sense, then you want to get hit at a shallow angle as possible, not 45 degrees, which would be perfectly logical.
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>>165377493
>tfw want to delete as an Iowa
>USN BBs are probably the worst in the game right now.
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>>165377742
She is worth it anon, go to her
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>>165377493
You mean Missouri? Iowa hasn't been released yet
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>>165377742
Just wait till they stop fucking around and actually buff carriers properly by making them more interesting to play.
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>beat my max damage in a boat
>defeat
every time
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>>165377885
>Magnification of her breasts with "Big Mo" right below
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>>165377904
>buff carriers
I said I want to -delete- as Iowa, not get deleted as Iowa.
>>
>>165377742

Iowa works with stealth builds, and is an excellent reward for the suffering before then.
>>
>>165377885
This is the Iowa I am talking about
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>>165370237
>>165371219

I usually respond "shoot the red ships"

:^)
>>
>>165378231

kys
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>>165378125
>for the suffering before then.
What, back on Colorado? Surely you couldn't be saying NY, NM, and NC are all bad ships.
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>>165378361
>Colorado
>Bad

Will this meme ever die?
>>
can russian CAs bow on meme on BBs?
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>>165378129
Oh, that's from the chink artbook

NEW THREAD
>>165378397
>>165378397
>>165378397
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>>165378361

The suffering of 20 knots, senpai.
>>
>drizzle
>take out car for some dank skids
>do a couple cool skids
>"ok, a last one and i'll be heading home"
>enter the corner with a little bit too much speed, pull handbrake, shit almost spins out of control but i slow it down enough to just bank into the near curb with a minor scratch to the bumper
>police passes 100 meters from me in the intersection just as i return back in the drive lane

How was your evening /wowsg/?
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>>165377362
you get more deflection and thickness at 60 degrees m80. even more at 90 kek
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>>165375857
>I doubt they ever will.
They said this was on the 'eventually' list.
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