/wtg/ - War Thunder General

>>165216352
My regret is buying the holiday packs... then again I got to spend time with my family.

FIRST

3rd for Type 62 HEAT-FS when
Its literally fucking useless without it.

It's like, who cares about a bombing toting ME262

We already have had two Arados for the longest time.

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Watcha GRINDAN /wtg/?

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>>165216715
Soon brother

https://mega.nz/#!FhRCzISa!RQygEOAmSNe9-Z_1fliiuK4ac28GdQpubArrEm_tonk

Hunnicutt's full series for you cunts.
>link even ends in "tonk"

Some of the PDFs aren't the best quality, but it's legible.

>>165217615
unlocked everything i wanted and only post >warblunder these days

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>>165217615
back to basics

>>165217615
Object
M4 before the T25
RktJgdPz
Mk 10.

>>165217615
nothing because I'm done with this fucking game
I'd rather be comfy and cruise above 30k feet in FSX

>>165217615
Jap tanks
Yeah I'm a stupid bastard but at least I'm up to tier 2 now where they almost feel like real tanks

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>>165217615
Life is suffering

>>165217615
Jap sherman.

>>165218678
>russian SPAA
fucking kill yourself, that line is cancer incarnate.

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You may now only post cute tonks

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>>165220909

>>165217615
Bf-109 G-6

They seriously need to up RP for GF or reduce the Tier V mod RP requirements.

>>165221574
no they dont

>>165221678
t. gaijin

>>165221678
+10 GE

>>165221678
>modules are 26k/30k/33k
>good games will net you 2400rp max without boosters/premium

>>165221783
>>165221814
>>165221905
Should've phrased that better.

They aren't going to. Just you wait, aircraft is going to drop to shit levels soon.

>>165222031
Firebombing will commence if true.

>>165222031
>Soon
its already almost there man they managed to make air worse since 1.57

>>165219957
i already have the zsu 57:)

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>grinding out rank 3 mods for my Leopard

Fuuuuuuuck me, every fucking mod is 30K+ from this point.

I don't want to drop a talisman

>>165222828
you only need the heat fpe and parts for it

>>165222939
and cHEAT-FS.

How do I HESH?

>>165223019
desu the apds is plenty good

>>165223060
>dont hit spaced armour
>dont hit tracks
>dont aim for ammo, you wont detonate it
>only aim for crew
>it works just like HE with lots of fragmentation even though it shouldnt
>if you hit the t54s turret you wont penetrate it but ))) downwards into the hull killing the driver

its trash and not working properly like the rest of warblunder

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did they fix the US 90mm and M103 solid shot AP yet

>>165223412
Fuck no, then it would be useful against Paper IIs

>>165223412
>warblunder

>T30 added soonTM

Does that mean I should start researching the Jackson?

>>165223547

guess this garbage game stays uninstalled then lmao

>>165217615

I'm flip-flopping between the T-34 85, the Twin Mustang, the Tiger II, and the 76mm Jumbo Sherman.

I was burned out on War Thunder after spending something like 1300 hours on it but I just discovered that it's a pretty comfy game to accompany podcasts and lectures. It's mindless enough that you can concentrate on the audio while having something to occupy your eyes and your fingers.

>>165223301

What? I almost exclusively use HESH on my Chieftain since the APDS is so unreliable. Against Germans, Japanese it performs great. Against those targets, the first shot will cripple them enough you can finish them off with the second provide you aim accordingly. Also it might not cook ammo with the same frequency as APDS but it can do it and if it doesn't it will at least do some damage to the Tank unlike APDS.

The only reason you shouldn't use HESH is if you're versing Russians because they skirts, and high armor values on parts of their Tanks will make it useless and you're better off using your APDS to go for ammo.

If you're German or Japanese though. HESH is also great to use because it will kill American and British Tanks easily. Obviously use HEAT-FS or APDS against Russians.

HESH is quite underrated for Tier V in my opinion. It's definitely worth using if your Tank has it.

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>gaijin expects you to shoot through this fucking thing
Thank god you can disable it
Don't bully my damaged tail pls, I tried doing a short takeoff but ran out of runway

/wtg/ how do i jap GF
i'm new to tonk and it's so hard to get a single kill in RB before being killed first :^(

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>>165223651
maybe if the T30 was actually a Tank destroyer, and not a Heavy tank.

How the fuck do I fly the Ki-87 against griffon shitfires

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>>165228948
>using Ki-87 vs Griffons
>not holding J

>>165229313
So it's unusable and a waste of money just like the D-13 from the same pack?

Fantastic

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Tfw the only person who uses it, the PzIII N is so CUTE

CUUUUUUUUTE

>using joystick
>play RB first get shrekt and never get a kill

>play 1 game of SB before RB, you rekt shit up

>>165232213
>joystick aim loses to mouse aim
wow stop the presses

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why is the M46 so aesthetic

>>165220909
The Type 62 is seriously cute.

Tags: age regression, lolicon, femdom

>>165228948
What do you mean? Ki-87 gets Airspawn 99% of the fucking time, there's more than enough time to outclimb them and blast them to pieces, I rarely get killed by spitniggers.

what's a good starter plane for sim?

>>165234216
Play IL-2 instead.

>>165232590
Its not though

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>>165232590
>That abortion of a cannon shape.

No anon.

>How Fuel Load Affects Energy Retention & Diving
lol what a retard

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>>165234743
Missing something retard? And he's right. Nice to see your American """""education""""" is paying off

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Filthy

>>165234980
PEPEEE

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not good

>Them Wyverns, Sea Hawks, Sea Venoms, Centurions and AMXs

Too good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzu2R_yHDMs

What stops the average US vs Japan tier being like this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-zwAmkgk4

I have a question.

I am currently flying a lot of P-47D and I am heading towards P-47N. On forums, I found out that it doesn't really get any praise.

Is it really bad? Or just horrible stock syndrome?

>>165238769
It'a a fat, low climbrate plane in a game environment where victory is almost always certain with an altitude advantage.

You tell me. There are some fat wizards about though.

>>165238769
cant answer the n, but the m is amazing

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>>165238769
It gets an airspawn like 6-8k up so climb rate isn't really an issue.

It's a boom and zoomer and it doesn't lock up going like 550mph from what I've seen my friend do with it.


I hate wing mounted shit tho :^)^))^)))))

>>165239750
>>165239456
>>165239006
I had a pretty good luck with head-ons with 8 50.cals with 600m cov. and Stealth... what I am curious about is the performance of the 4.7 plane against it's competition.

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What if you actually get some Bong shit if you finish 12 stages besides nippon tank acces ??

only nation to miss out a vehicle

>>165240489
Gott Strafe England.

>>165240489
>What if you actually get some Bong shit if you finish 12 stages besides nippon tank acces ??
what is this conspiracy

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why the fuck did they cover that hole with snow ??

>>165240961
you could actually jam an ASU-57 underneath it

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>Create a new lineup to go with my chink 62
>Decide on IS2, TV and ZSU37
>Get uptiered to 6.7-7.0 games 90% of the time
>Replace IS2 by IS1
>Get top tier 90% of the time

Really makes you think.

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Man, today's event is just outright silly.

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>>165241508
wow lad

>>165241508
I'm glad I already did 10 and don't need to suffer through that anymore

>>165241647
do 12 and you get a surprise

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>>165241702
proofs?

>>165241580
>>165241647

Its not bad, just go american and strafe all the Jap Origami tanks.

>>165241508
the first person to get a plane is gonna have a gud time

>>165241831
Considering the LVT has less armor than the ha-go it doesn't matter which side, even jap 20mm belts can pen it at 500 meters from pretty much any angle.

>>165241946
but the LVT is a literal bullet sponge

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the fuck is wrong with my bushes and trees ??

Didnt have this horistonal line problem before formating hard drive

>>165241702
The real surprise would be to put the type 62 and 262 as premiums. There I'd be astonished.

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>>165220909

my brother from a german mother

Man, poor ha-gos, this is not a balanced event.

>tfw they are dead before i can get to them

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>>165243051
Whats worse is the Japanese generally have way more players too....yet still lose.

>>165244759
because LVTs are bullet sponges armed with autocannons

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>>165244848

The japs have autocannons too, they are just shit

I'm pretty sure a fitty has more pen

37mm is legitimately one of my favorite guns in the game tho

>>165245216
I can never get the lead right to do sweet shit like that.

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WHEN

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>>165245423

when

>>165245472
Would that Goblin thing not fly like utter shite?

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>yfw the IS-7 is easy as fuck to get and is premium

>>165245573

>While in flight, the Goblin was stable, easy to fly, and recoverable from spins, although initial estimates of a 648 mph (1,043 km/h) top speed proved optimistic.[2]

Apparently not

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>>165245783
>yfw big steel guys season 2 reward

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>>165246254
>another shitty event where only hackers actually got it because it was a competition

>>165246010
DID YOUR BALLS GET ROASTED IN THE GOBLIN GIVEN THAT YOU'RE LITERALLY STRADDLING THE ENGINE COMPRESSOR?

>>165246660

that's the best part anon

People still mad about type 62 ?? dont see this tank spamemd at all.

Its stock shell has like 140g filler and can fuck up even tiger 2 from side

>>165247113
>can fuck up even tiger 2 from side
is this bait?

>>165247342
>is this bait?
? what nigga

meant that it just one shots everything from side

J U S T
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F L A N K
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>>165241061

The 6.7 Blackhole starts at 6.0 and ends in 7.0. It used to be 6.3 and 7.3 but the addition to 6.7 premium tanks for all nations pretty much make the hellhole get tighter. I've noticed since its rare for me to get a full downtier on my T-54-47 anymore.

With all the Jap Tigers that also affected the 5.7 spread. So 4.7 to 5.7 is another blackhole in the BR. So if you're in the low end you'll get fucked constantly by uptiers.

>>165247414
Nigga ANYTHING can kill a KT from the side.

>thread is 10 hours old and only has 100 replies
kek

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tricky to operate

>>165249928
man i haven't heard that in ages

>>165249753
not oneshot though, took me 4 hits in ammo rack to kill one with M24

>>165250805
>1.0 BR difference = 3.0 BR difference

>>165217615
crew points, since I plan to start playing tanks.
I already have all planes I wanted

do bong tanks actually get better with the cent 10?
I want to fucking neck myself with 40k rp left to it

>>165250883
close distance, each shot penetrated

Considering the armour values why isnt the Leopard 1 5.7 like the Type 62 as well?

At least the Type 62 has a explosive stock shells

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>>165251085
18k to T25
I know it sucks compared to anything at this BR, but at least I'll finally have gun that can kill when it penetrates and leave solidshot meme behind me

>>165251085
>end game cannon that fights ww2 tanks all day
gee really puts the lime in my coconut

>>165251159
Again, you are comparing a 3.7 vehicle to a 5.7 vehicle when facing a 6.7 vehicle

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>when the 50mm connects with the bomber wing

Why is the Me 410 A-1/U4 so bad yet so fun?

>>165251085

>105's Sabot can frontally pen Panthers with ease as well as King Tigers if you are close enough.
>Its still slow as the Centurion Mk.3
>HESH can fuck up any WW2 Tank it faces without having to worry about bounces or angles. Obviously be wary of skirts, add-on armor and spaced armor in general. It can frontally pen a King Tiger from any range although sometimes it will give you a non-pen since its penetration(150mm) is the same as the King Tigers' 150mm front plate. If it does pen though, say goodbye to his driver and gunner provided the shot wasn't low enough that the transmission ate it.
>7.0BR means you'll be top tier 8 out 10 games.
>7.1 Reload Speed with an Ace Crew means you'll be throwing down Sabots and HESH down range like a rail gun.
>You start out with APDS and HESH.

Its pretty much an upgraded to the Centurion Mk.3 in every way that matters except mobility but you should be used to cruiser tanks by now. Its BR is adequate and it should be some relief once you get it.

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>>165251292

Leopard has 300 pen APDS, 400 pen HEAT, 145 pen HESH, all the rounds (even HESH) have high velocity than non-APCR ammo from the Type.

Leopard is also faster, powered turret drive, better gun handling, etc.

It's funny that there are people who think the Type 62 isn't good without HEAT, though. If it doesn't get in a 6.7, it's outright cancer.

>Activate a 250% booster on my Wyvern
>Get Norway
>Team is 3/4 Brazilians, two of them basically chat all match and get no kills.
>All the Americans on the Team don't climb
>British are taking He 219s head on and to a surprise losing them if not killing themselves mutually.
>All I wanted was Hokkaido where I could bomb a base, sideclimb and rape some Americans

Fucking hell, man.

>>165254392
>activate booster
>get shit games
it really does make you think

>>165254843
play arcade, or if they end too soon, sim foreverbattles

>>165251085
Cent Mk. 10 is fantastic. HESH all day everyday and you'll eat T-44s and T-54s like a German nigger eats mustard.

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I think your engineering might be perfectible if this little shit is better than any of your actual tank up to 2.3BR

>>165255978
I take my Cent 10 and if it dies I'll take the Strv, it's hilarious to kill Tiger gunners and hit them with an SS11

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when

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>>165256856
so qt

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>tfw gaijin says the bug you reported is a known issue and they thank you for posting it

how much do you guys think it would cost to get some people to steal war blunder's source code? I bet we could make it into an actually good game desu

>>165257356
If this bug isn't that the type 62 isn't premium and doesn't have heatfs I'm not interested.

>>165258090
It was about the F8F-1B.

>>165258090
type 62 should have heat because ??

>there are people in this general RIGHT NOW that would rather play war thunder than a balanced and fun fame like World of Tanks or a realistic game like ARMA or DCS

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>>165258934
historical accuracy

>>165258934
Because it had it irl.

>>165259236
>there are people
are you telling me im talking to actual human beings ?

>>165259357
Do you consider slavs human?

>>165259396
if we're going down that path, humans are barely a fraction of wots player base

>Gets the message that my premium time is done

Fuck! Already!? Twenty days sure does fly...

>>165259472
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>165249753
>Nigga ANYTHING can kill a KT from the side.

Ur dick couldnt, wouldnt have enough penetration.

>>165259236
>there are people in this thread, RIGHT NOW, that would rather shitpost and get largely ignored than do something constructive with their life

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>>165259651
Shit must suck dude.

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Here have some autism /wtg/

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>>165260651
This is what nazi-tards actually believe.

>>165259236

I like world of tanks as well but it's really killed for me by the lack of tank features and machineguns.

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Me-262 HG III when?

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>>165260651

My autism is stuck on combat cars atm.

Does anyone have info on:
T2 Combat Car
T3 Combat Car
T4 Combat Car
T4E1 Combat Car
T4E2 Combat Car
M1 Combat Car
T5 Combat Car
T5E1 Combat Car
T5E2 Combat Car
T6 Combat Car

Because this is turning into a special flavor of hell.

>>165260793
Learn to spell, faggot

>>165260032
idk senpai I just drop some nice shitposts on the thread while I'm walking to class or on the shitter like I am rn

idk why you're projecting so hard desu, is there something you want to talk about anon?

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How do I get this decal???

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When?

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Thanks to the anon that told me to check pre-load client! Now insyed of 13gb I only have to download 6 for the samurai update!

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Wouldt it be amazing if they implemented nuclear bombs? But only for a gsme mod where you need to defend or drop the bomb

How the hell do I get range and gud in RB?

Every fucking match its just me getting killed by some guy I didnt see

>>165264454
Use ultra slav mode.

>>165264454
Ranging comes with practise. I can now shit on people with the Cent from across the map on the first shot.

I usually go for flanks and try not to make for the most obvious paths, you start to do better when you aren't popping up already in the enemy's sights

I want to cum on [QT508] unkel_bubi!

New player here, can't get internet radio working
trying to use r/a/dio but then it goes quiet after 1 second of playing.
Can't find a fix
what do /vg/

>>165266115
jerk off to cute boys :3

>>165265809
pervert

>>165266115
Same issue with cl/a/ssy radio here.

>>165264454

There's a ranging button. Use it if you can't mentally do it or are in a weird tank with shit velocity. Takes a few seconds and calls out an estimated range to where your sights are aiming.

Abuse the fuck out of your binocs. Constantly check corners while on the move. Hot swap between binocs/third person/free-cam third person to look for people. I sometimes use the gun sight too if it's a tank with a fuckton of zoom.

Don't be aggressive. In low tier people can be everywhere but are usually gonna be mid. In high tier, people go to flanks/meme-spots so aggressively that sometimes you can stroll right through the middle of the map unopposed.

If you don't have hawkeye-tier vision, let someone else go first as bait or camp all together. It's hard to spot a tank that's not doing anything, but if they're shooting it's real fuckin' easy to walk the tracer back.

If you take damage from anywhere and don't ded instantly, the damage circle actually tells you the location of where it came from. And it keeps ticking like a free radar if you're on fire and pissed.

Don't spray coax ever except in tiny blips to check tanks to make sure they're corpse'd. All you'll do is give away cover. Unless it's an unarmored truck or something.

>>165263597
After they add the french who have a much more interesting tech tree potential than pastaniggers.

>>165258137
What was the bug?

>>165263314
Buy the premium British Firefly tank.

>>165251385
The T25 deserves to be 5.0 it's that fucking bad. Don't get your hopes up for anything.

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how have they not fixed the belt reset bullshit yet
its been like 3 fucking weeks

>>165268695

The entire American non-premium tree from 4.7 to 7.3 is mostly buggered and I'm not crossing my fingers Gaijin will fix it any time soon.

Jackson's still 6.3 for some reason, I think.

>>165260793
iirc he couldn't pull out of a dive and had to pop the canopy which happened to fix it due to the change in aerodynamics.

>>165269189
>slav
destroy

>>165270259
nyet

>>165269437
T25 5.0
M26 5.7
Jackson 5.7
Jumbo 76 5.3-5.7
Not sure about the Pattons since I don't play them, all I know is I dick on them in my KT or any of the 6.0 Panthers

Can someone tell me how the Sturmvögel's FM compares to the Schwalbe? Assuming both are spaded and without bombload. It's my first jet

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So what should I research next? Tempted by the ZSU to become a shitter but I would have a very unbalanced lineup.

>>165251385
>When it penetrates
I hope you like flanking))), because the only thing you can reliably kill from the front with M3 90mm is Tiger 1s, or Panther/Tiger 2P if you hit the mantlet just right.

>berlin
>b29s spawn in low orbit
>by the time you get to them in your 262 your base is dead
>this is what gaijin thinks is "balanced"

>>165274274
ASU-85>T-44-100>Object 906>T-54 1947>T-54 1949>ZSU-57
if you really care abut balanced lineup desu

>>165274274
t44 100 is bretty gooooooodddd

>>165274575
>>165274917

Ok then I'll wait a bit for the very balans ZSU and get the t44 100 first.

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>Having to carry Allied teams highhandedly in American tanks
>Having to carry when it's vs USSR and Krauts

>>165276175
>t. arkaden mongrel

>>165276587
RB actually, friendo.

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>1 shotting tiger 2s and sending them straight back to hangar
feels good man

How the fuck do I do evasive maneuvers and dogfighting of any kind in sim and IL-2

Is the meta just boom and zoom?

8.0 Ground Forces is a horrible mess.

>>165268431
About the imaginary bomb bay it has.

>>165277784
The meta is don't get hit

>>165277758
>only 5 kills
>warblunder

LOL!

>>165277758
>posted from my really hard to use soviet bouncy castle armed with its railgun

>>165278000
Can be fun if you play urban maps. Imagine you're in Syria with all the rpgs flying around

>>165278335
>bouncy
dude just shoot the turret if you cant pen it with 88mm you are retarded and its a 1 shot kill

>>165278335
I think I'd just rather not play against Slavs ever. Still trying to learn where to pen some tanks, but I can't learn properly against the Slavs. They kill you before you get a chance.

Is it normal that when I fire too long with the Kugel shells start to go everywhere? I imagine it's supposed to represent the guns overheating but sometimes they go like 45° from the cannon

>>165278581
Yes, it's normal. Why it's the only SPAA in the game to get this? Who the fuck knows. People conveniently ignore it when they cry about the kugel.

>>165278581
it was introduced to help combat full auto kugel fire since its the meta aa in squadron realistic battles
the longer it fires it turns into a shotgun so it forces you to not use full auto so you cant spray lasers all over the enemy air team

WHATS WITH THESE ALL THESE CONSTANT FUCKING UPDATES EVERY FUCKING DAY

AND WHY DOES THE WT LAUNCHER START ON ITS OWN IMMEDIATELY WHEN I TURN MY PC ON IN THE MORNING

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Since everyone is posting the shit they want.


W h e n ?

>>165279496
Because you're a brain dead retard that hasn't turned the auto launch option in the launcher.

>>165279684
That's a big gun.

>>165279263
>Germans have a good AA? Better handicap it so they don't get an unfair advantage
>Meanwhile the ZSU57 wrecks everything better than a tank destroyer but we don't give a fuck

And then what about the Wirbelwind? I doesn't do as much damage but at lower tier it delivers a litteral shower of bullets still.

>>165279684
We have plenty of 75mm gun tanks already, yawn.

>>165279684
Dont get me started on hornets nests again....

>>165279684
When the game turns into full retard and they start adding full paper vehicles or even thing straight out of their ass like a certain other wargame.

>>165279869
you can only use tier 4 shit in squadron battles and the kugel has the advantage over the wirbel of not being able to be strafed out as easy as an open top aa

>>165280030
its already trash and since the majority plays arcade, they wont even notice

>>165280030
What difference would it make anon?

>>165280030
>Not wanting F U N tanks because the inner historian nazi in you is getting assblasted

Not my problem faggot. Get over it.

>>165280030
>Full paper vehicles aren't allowed
>Vietnam War tanks facing WW2 are

It's weird the things you people accept but don't accept.

>>165280030
Why even bother clinging to the pretense of historical realism anymore when you have things like the Brits and Soviets fighting the Japanese and Nazis on a Pacific Island in game?

>>165280201
war thunder is supposed to be a more realistic alternative to wot and how do you implement a realistic gameplay with something that didn't exist? Also naziboos would go apeshit because they had the biggest number of paper shit and everyone would want their special snowflake wunderwaffe added.

>>165279869
>nazishart crying
>meanwhile the ZSU is easily vulnerable to fire from aircraft, HMGs, and HE shells
>while the kugel, coelian, and gepard are vulnerable to almost none of those

German ground forces are not the main problem. The problem is that all nations have different peak BRs, but because germany is so popular it sways the MM, This is compounded by the FAVOURABLE SPEED of German tanks like the KT and Maus. Combining this with the ability of the KingTiger to outbrawl other nation's heavies at sub 100m ranges alongside the uselessness of light tanks like the M41, and you have a nation which is undisputedly overpowered at every BR peak. The only way in which a player can keep up without spamming multiple Shermans per enemy Tiger is to Pay 2 win with a tank like the T29 or Strv 81, bringing cold war tech into the fight. For means of historical accuracy, I proposed that we model Germany's low quality kruppstahl as it was in real life and limit the German teams to 4 heavies in any match.

>>165280563
See:
>>165280561
>Why even bother clinging to the pretense of historical realism anymore when you have things like the Brits and Soviets fighting the Japanese and Nazis on a Pacific Island in game?


>>165280563
>Also naziboos would go apeshit because they had the biggest number of paper shit and everyone would want their special snowflake wunderwaffe added.
Good, at least it'd be more interesting than yet another fucking Sherman hulled thing that someone came up with at one point or other and managed to convince someone to build a couple of.

>>165280554
This.

What's your MO guys? What makes the thought of paper tanks and prototypes assblast you so much?

>>165280590
>different vehicles dont have the same weakness
really fired up my neurons

>>165281280
so anon, what are the major weaknesses that those have
they sure as fuck have less weaknesses than than the ZSU

>>165280590
>Kugel isn't vulnerable to HE or Ground Belts (aircraft)
Delusion slavtards at it again.

>>165281442
Not him. Both the Kugel and Coelian are slow as shit. Kugel especially is annoyingly sluggish. Kugel is easily penned by literally everything at its tier and far below its tier. There is no bouncing in a Kugel (RNG doesn't count), there is no firing into dead space in a Kugel. If it doesn't get one shot it loses so many important components that it gets put out of commission immediately for 40 seconds at least. Kugel has the shotgun effect whereas every other SPAA has no issue firing constantly. Also there are several aircraft which have no issue penning and setting fire to the Kugel. Mine is constantly set on fire this way, especially memorable because I don't have FPE yet in the damn thing.

I'm not 100% sure the issues the Coelian has, but there's gotta be a reason people opt to use the Kugel over it.

>>165280915
It might be my inner historian nazi, but I feel like adding paper vehicles would only lead to endless whining about the vehicles, especially those with not much known details. Like if a real tank was actually underpowered like the matilda or T95, deal with it that how it was. But with paper shit you'd only get bickering about "make this faster, add more armor to that, give us a different camo, make this plane turn better..."

>>165281442
sure they dont. neither can reliably pen the majority of tanks frontally they meet.

then again, what tanks do have to change to HE ammo to damage them since their regular rounds overpen or dont detonate their ammo?

also:
>warblunder

>>165282189
>there's gotta be a reason people opt to use the Kugel over it

The Coelian is better as a dedicated SPAA. The only reason anyone uses the Kugelmeme over the Coelian is to kill other tanks.

>>165282189
>I'm not 100% sure the issues the Coelian

Could it be that it's often uptiered with jets where its fire rate is useless? Just thinking about it, I'm not that far yet in the tree.

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Does the free golden eagles app actually work or is it just spyware?

And should I start a WTG shill channel on Youtube of my own featuring 1 shot kill montages of high tier German vehicles set to Fashwave music?

>>165284240
It works, but half the shit either gives nothing or requires a credit card.

>>165284240
>murdoch murdoch
I always wondered, is it a satire on /pol/ done by a redditor or something, or are they genuine /pol/ memers?

>try to have fun in maus
>team gets curbstomped because they're retards
>I'm left to deal with a horde of T-54s and T-10Ms
why are bundebabbies absolute shitters when I'm on their side

>>165284730
Le "the only constant is yuo" faece
Honestly all teams are shit

>>165285036
nah, it's just that the blue team is always shit
I wish I could be paired with the reds for once

>>165282205
> make this plane turn better

no Anon, we're only talking about paper tanks.

Devs would seed through that shit and you can have a good idea of how fast something was by looking at it's weight, it's engine and transmission.

Something like the E-75 would be a slower Tiger II with an 88 L/71 or some meme gun like a 128.


That being said it'd be easier for Gaijin to do something like the Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger first and other Waffentrager TD's because those were built or have blueprints.

They could also do the Jagdpanther mit 12.8 cm Pak 80 on the Panther chassis.

Half the shit the germans planned are incomplete blueprints with no armor values or anything because

xDD limited resources 2 front war xDDD

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GW Tiger when?

>>165285181
I would go as far as to argue that the tanks and planes that were actually made are papershit themselves because they don't suffer from some of the major issues that the vehicles had in real life. Everything in War Thunder performs as if it's in all perfect conditions. So to me, complaining about other papershit is silly at this point.

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>IT-1 and RakJpzs got elevation and depression
wew lad, they totally needed to be buffed further

>>165285865
>Everything in War Thunder performs as if it's in all perfect conditions.

I think the biggest offenders to this are early to mid-war soviet vehicles, IT-1, 105mm Tiger, Panther II and Typhoons.

>>165286190
>105mm Tiger, Panther II
>Implying there were any ever built to perform as if brand new

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Currently, Tank RB has an issue of balance. This is a major issue that affects all nations and BRs, and it stems from the German tanks. However, German ground forces are not the main problem. The problem is that all nations have different peak BRs, but because germany is so popular it sways the MM, This is compounded by the favourable speed of German heavy tanks such as the KT and Maus. Combining this with the ability of the KingTiger to out-brawl other nation's heavies at sub 100m ranges and the uselessness of light tanks like the M41, and you have a nation which is undisputedly overpowered at every BR peak due to a number of heavy tanks with overwhelming armament and agility. And supporting such a lineup are the undisputed kings of air to ground cheatery (Sidenote, why can we not get a tank only gamemode?) the MK103 equipped planes, all of which are entirely capable of cleaning the sky and ground of a full enemy team prior to returning to base for rearm. The only way in which an allied player can keep up without spamming multiple Shermans per enemy Tiger is to Pay 2 win with a tank like the T29 or Strv 81, bringing cold war tech into the fight, or to employ the use of CHEAT-FS/HESH to defeat their otherwise impenetrable armour, most of which is only available on cold war machines anyway, and then they still lose when the Germans bring out their SPAT (Self Propelled Anti Tank) Wundewaffe, Gepard through Kugelblitz along with a full team of Ho229s.

>>165286385
Yeah, but what I meant was the fact that those turrets are unable to even mount those guns inside them.

>>165286493
The allies have nothing to counter this at this point, leaving them at the mercy of the Axis team.
For means of historical accuracy in balance, I propose that we model Germany's low quality kruppstahl as it was in real life - their method of manufacture reducing hardness and thus significantly reducing resistance to bullets - and limit the German teams to 4 heavies in any match, emphasising the logistical advantages held by the allies. As a counterpoint to this, US steel should be modelled as it was in reality, as it wasn’t hardened it should be less resistant to MG fire. Further, we need to stop giving other nations access to German equipment, as this unrealistic resource sharing is crushing them in endless tank waves. Further, we need to model the issue of low quality engineering on Axis planes, maybe not burning up on the airfield but certainly randomly having your engine damaged.

>>165285181
We already have a lot of bitching with existing paper tanks like the Pan 2 or 105 KT so imagine if there were more of them. It would be a nonending whining from assblasted people who were killed by those vehicles.

>>165286190
I know the KTH, Panther II are paper vehicles, but the IT-1, soviet vehicles and typhoons are offenders of the optimal performance with no issue?

>>165285391
GW Tiger being what?

>>165287298
A Tiger used as an artillery platform with a 170mm gun.

It's a WoT thing.

>>165286647
>Allies have nothing to counter them

The allies have nothing to counter German or Slav vehicles. Any time the Slavs are on their own they steam roll the competition. If you want balance right now, the Slavs and Germans need to be teamed up with another nation. While it is anecdotal, ever since the Nips have been showing up with the Krauts, I've been having more and more matches that are closer instead of a steam roll from either side.

>>165287204
Let them bitch. The people who bitch about paper tanks are usually the same people that have no issue about time travel.

>>165287204
Not me or the devs problem. Learn to play.

That being said, everyone should have cool paper tanks, not just the Germans.

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>be dive bomber
>get bullied by zeroes

how do i stop the suffering

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>>165287298
this

>people complaining about paper tanks when we now have the Jap ground forces tree which has more paper/protoshit tanks than mass-produced ones
Pandora's box has been open for a while now

>>165287271
IT-1s ergonomics were so shit, even soviets deemed it unusable, not to mention the interior was so loud it could almost cause permanent hearing loss.

Typhoons had the infamous carbon oxide leaks to the cockpit.

Now that I think about it there's more of those examples, Me 262 should burst in flames if you pushed the throttle too quickly.

>>165287597
War Thunder with APCBC when

>>165287271
Actually the Panther 2 isn't totally a paper tank since the both the hull and turret existed. It's the gun that is a stretch.

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What is the fucking point of doing gud when they gimped the XP so hard for tanks REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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unless this is doctored, it was actually fucking built
partially

>>165287597
>slow as shit
>probably oneshotted by literally anything
Yeah we need a worse Ferdinand.

>>165285956

IT-1 always had it, now it's animated properly.
Rak 2 had it originally, removed for no reason other than )), got it added back.
Rak HOT still doesn't have it despite being an actual feature of the vehicle.

>>165287790
IIRC it's legit, shame Brits being the very clever people they are, scrapped it along with the E-100 chassis and the Rheinmetal-Borschig WT.

>>165287726
Well, the Panther 2 that exists in game is basically Paper. If they were to turn it into what it actually was I feel it would be useless. Hopefully Gaijin doesn't touch the tank.

>>165287683
>IT-1 was so shit it was deemed unusable
>Meanwhile it dominates 8.0

Is there any english source for this? Or wiki maybe? This is upsetting. I don't think I've ever survived an encounter with one yet.

>>165287956
>IIRC it was legit
boi
take those rakjpzs and put them in a tab with the Jpz 4-5 and put the GW tiger after the Sturer Emil
plos
I want more meme german SPGs

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>>165287956
Here's a better photo

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>have fucked engine, leaking oil
>flying back to base on max throttle
>engine isn't overheating at all
>throttle down for landing
>thing goes nuclear

>>165288001
>IT-1 was so shit it was deemed unusable
>Meanwhile it dominates 8.0

And we come back to the "all vehicles in game perform as they would in a perfect world" debate.
The IT1 was a nightmare irl but it doesn't matter in game. And there are a lot of examples. I think with the M56 the driver had to get off the vehicle before firing or he would get blasted for example.

>>165288001
>Is there any english source for this? Or wiki maybe? This is upsetting. I don't think I've ever survived an encounter with one yet.

I remember reading it quite a long time ago, don't have the source currently, sadly

Speaking of paper designs, I'd be cool with Panther F getting the autoloader it was allegedly supposed to have. It would at least make it usable at the BR it's stuck at currently.

>>165288842
Prop wasn't forcing more airflow tovarisch

>>165289016
It's not a debate really, at this point we're sharing trivia about certain fatal flaws of combat vehicles.

I remember hearing something about a russian tank having to reset gun elevation after every shot to reload the gun. Maybe it was T-44, or maybe one of the experimental variants.

Anyone heard about it?

>>165288298
Was the gun ever built?

>>165289370
Highly doubt it.

>>165289280
IS-2, T-62, etc
>>165289370
not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure it was a tank mounted version of this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17_cm_Kanone_18

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>"""Realistic""" battles
>get a new engine installed in under 30 seconds

>>165289370
Hey look anon I found this using the magical new service called "googly" I think that's the name anyway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17_cm_Kanone_18

>>165289280
T30E did that automatically

>>165289462
>IS-2, T-62, etc
So it's true then. Thanks for the confirmation.

>>165289512
>he wants that level of realism in the game
off yourself, autist

>>165289280
T-62 needed to. It's a thing it does in Steel Armour Beasts of War

>>165289649
yes, it is
doesn't mean it should be added though

>>165289769
Didn't mean to imply it should.

>>165289512
>Get your engine/trans destroyed
>Have to wait for a rescue tank to tow you back to base where the mechanics work like crazy to replace the elements in under 3 hours

Sure would be fun to play.

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Grinding to the Comet was a mistake. Brit tanks stop being fun at any BR above 4.0

>>165290235
But they're not even fun below that except for the cromwell?

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>slavshits in charge of knowing the limits of their glued together flying coffins

>>165290235
Cent 10 is good

>>165289280
IS-2 was level gun and rotate full forward to reload

>>165289975

>realistic mode
>Panther Ds dont spawn with broken transmissions

>>165291814
>realistic mode
>crews dont bail after first penetrating hit

>>165290235
>Churchill 7 is fun
>Cents are fun
>Tortoise is fun
>Chieftain is fun if you like being a nigger

>>165291979
>realistic mode
>can put out burning fuel with household fire extinguishers
>can do it twice
>can call in pinpoint accuracy barrages
>may survive a shot and recuperate fast enough to return fire or just outright return fire simultaneously

>realistic mode
>a squad of T-34 medium tanks can target more than one target simultaneously

>realistic mode
>players taller than 5'6" can use T-34s

>realistic mode
>T-34's aren't limited to "basic" crews

>realistic mode
>you have a 360 degree field of view when using T-34s

>realistic mode
>outcomes of engagements and battles don't exactly parallel real life down to the exact location of everything

I asked this yesterday and no one answered so here it is again,
Are there any tanks in the Japanese tree worth grinding for?

>>165294730
Ho-Ro
Chi-Ri III
can't think of anything else

>realistic mode
>random pieces don't fall off your soviet tank when you start the match

Reminder that the biggest problems with ATGM tanks stem from the lack of a minimal arming distance

>>165294730
Chi-Ri II because it's got a memeloader

>realistic mode
>your account doesn't randomly get purged by a paranoid dictator if you main soviet vehicles

>>165295108
There's also the fact that the IT-1 can shoot you without you being able to shoot back.

>>165294919
sta 1, 2 stb 1, type 74 and soon tm the mat atgms

>realistic mode
>ergonomics isn't a factor
>>165295341
good one

>>165292616
>household

Don't be retarded anon. Tank design going back to the fucking 30s has provisions for multiple fixed AND handheld fire extinguishers.

The most legit complaint is that every crew in this game is super eager to push aside their mutilated comrade and main the station despite the stations being fucked and likely being wounded themselves.

>>165295108
IT-1 was armed from launch. The only issue it had was the rocket doesn't enter the gunner's aiming reticle until ~250-300m.

>>165295367
to be fair all of the atgm tanks, sans the sheridan and strv can do that

>>165295518
>4/6
>"all of them"

toppest of keks

why is mozdok the only map with enemy soldiers?

>>165295108

Minimal range for most ATGMs stems from minimal control distance. The arm range is almost always super short and implementing it would negate like 5-20m encounters at most. Likely not even.

Tanks don't give a shit about self-damage from that because it's only remotely a factor. Most documents talking about ATGMs and other dangerous ammo (HE/FRAG/Canister) just say "don't shoot it over the heads of infantry you fuckwits."

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>"realistic" mode
>america isn't literally the strongest country on earth

this is a stupid question but i didn't get six stages done, is there anyway to get the LVT without buying jew eagles?

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>>165295429

Adrenalines a helluva drug

>>165295518
I thought the Kraut ones can't?

>>165296231

It's one thing when you were already engaged in combat and you stand a slim chance if maybe you crawl over and slap the foot doodad to fire the gun.

It's another if you were cruising along wary-like and suddenly your commander legitimately explodes and you have crawl over the wet mess he now is just to find the hatch out.

>"realistic" mode
>tanks with automatic fire extinguishers require you to press a key to use it

>Tfw juggling tow tiger IIs in your -44-100
They almost got me twice but instead of rushing me at the same time they kept peeking, getting shot in the turret face, and backing up just in tune with my reload

>>165296543
>Warthunder
>You need to kill 100 enemies before you get the privilege to put out fires in your tank

>Realistic Mode
>A fire in an isolated engine compartment with blown out fuel tanks will burn indefinitely and slowly suck away the souls of the crewmen.

>realistic mode
>you don't have to drop napalm on civilians because they keep feeding the enemy soldiers

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Ontos and M150 after the M56 when? M56 removed from the light tank line when?

>>165296645
>warthunder
>crewmembers with burning flesh try to extinguish a fire instead of bailing out

Is there a tier for Germans that isn't garbage where literally every other faction is faster than you and spawncamps hard as shit 2 minutes in?

>>165297274
that's every tier, shitter

>>165297274
6.7. You get the Panther II. Conveniently, this is the same tier that people playing other nations cannot deal, they're too used to Krauts being slow as shit.

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>>165297018
>he doesn't have fun with the nam locust

the average clapper player:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Co33-xCHeY

Playing american in this latest event just makes me feel guilty.

>>165298197
thats not what he was implying

>try to use Ki-45 in the event
>LVT armor is too thin to trigger the fuse
The irony of something American being too thin

>tfw you click to shoot someone and explode

>>165301318
>When you shoot, the shell clearly shoots out on your screen, and makes it halfway to the enemy but the server decided you died before you actually shot

>>165287956
Fucking anglos deseve death...A painful one.

Fuck you if you fly the mk 24, it's now almost as game breaking as the J7W

>>165291979
>realistic mode
>t-34 doesn't tear apart and shred the crew from spalling on non penetrating hits

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>>165280030
At this point papper planes/tanks wont make a difference in the game, tha MM is already broken so is the BR maybe more vehicles improve it.

Also when????

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>>165301845

>>165301707
>almost

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>>165302074
This one sure will be added.

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>>165302306

>>165302074
>Guns: 2 fixed 30 mm MK 103 guns at the cockpit end and 2 fixed 30 mm MK 103 guns, as well as a periscope-controlled rear-firing cannon, at the tail end
Sick.

>>165302509
Oops that's a jet version. Still beyond cool.