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Another fucking Warcraft assassin edition

>What's new?
- Valeera confirmed.
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1483759651432.png
- Zul'jin (the Warcraft version, not the WoW version) live right now.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/zuljin/

https://youtu.be/XUhMCNzcUb0
https://youtu.be/sYIpkktbm68

>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20432204/weekly-sale-jan-10-17-2017-1-10-2017

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Where do I find you perfect plump prepubescent panda _____ loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20459869/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-january-6-2016-mage-wars-1-5-2017
>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20462409/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-january-6-2017-1-6-2017

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previously on /hotsg/: >>164968454
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I'm going to marry Auriel
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You can toss 2 heroes and add 2 heroes to the game
Who do you choose?
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>>165214192
Murky and Samuro go out the fucking window.

Urzael and Xavius get added.
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>playing on Blackheart's Bay, my favorite map
>got a nice bot to take over for Xul since he couldn't connect
>got two more nice bots to take the place of Zul'jin and Zarya after they left the game in frustration, which is very understandable
>had Gazlowe to keep me company for the next five minutes while the enemy team was taking a well deserved break
>eventually they came to destroy our core despite our peaceful protest, but that's ok

sometimes this game is really fun
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>>165214192
It's another (You) trap.
Anyway, remove ETShit and Alarak.
Add a feral druid like Broll, and Maiev.
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>>165214192
>toss Nova and Zeratul

don't even care who gets added after that, but a support and specialist would be preferable
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>>165214192

>Toss

Li Li
Vikings

>Add

Tyrion/Liadrin as a ret paladin
Anduin
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>>165214192
>Toss

Tracer
Samuro

>Add
Cydaea
Feral/Guardian Druid
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>>165214167
me too
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>>165214192
Toss Nova and Zeratul and remove stealth from Samuro
Add more meme heroes like Abathur/Murky/Cho'Gall
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>>165213940
What if-
What if Valeera is a multi-class specialist/assassin and Broll comes out as a multi-class tank/assassin making the gladiator trio all multi-class?
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>>165215223

I feel like a specialist/assassin won't happen since the line is already blurry as shit between those two roles for a few heroes already. Couldn't see a rogue being anything other than pure assassin anyway

Broll on the other hand would be good but after the shit that is Greymane i've lost hype for multi form heroes
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>>165215223
>multi-class including specialist

lmao what
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>>165215451
She could sabotage buildings which would fully warrant the specialist label.
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>>165215928

>Sabotage buildings

The fuck do you mean by that?
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>>165215928

>more structure shenanigans
>implying they'd put it on Valerra and not some protoss or goblin or something
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>>165215928
>more shit that interacts with the structures in this game that might as well be made of cardboard

also the specialist label was a mistake
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>>165214192
toss artanis and zagara
add Ghom and Cydaea
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>>165214192
toss chromie (yup I said it) and nova

add kel thuzad and that vampire lady from icecrown citadel
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>>165213898
But they get one shot by the core?
The core aoe also tends to hit all of them so two or three shots wipe them all out
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>>165214192
>Toss

LiLi

Add:
Aya Blackpaw
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>>165216747
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By El'druins light!
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>>165216895

Female Pandaren never.
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Wait when did (You)s come back? Why were they gone for a day?
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Reminder that only 28% of the cast are ladies.

Reminder that only 4.5 (Lunara is half an elf) of those 17 characters aren't a human or elf.

This is NOT ok.
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I want some yous
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I am officially a high rank god.
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>>165214192

remove xul and tassadar for having nothing to do with the character they are based on.

add d2 necro and maeiv
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>>165217467
Congrats, friend.

>her best skin and tint are default

I'll bet they regretted this.
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>>165217351
What female non-human/elf lore figures are there to even draw from?

You have Yrel for female Draenei, Moira for Dwarves, and then I'm drawing a total blank on literally every other race.
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>>165217351
Cyadea when
Maiev when
Azshara when
Vashj when
Andariel when
Amazon, Huntress and Sorceress when
Genderbent d3 heroes when
That one d3 witch that isn't Madga when
Yrel when
Liadrin when
Garona when
Shandris when
Cute iron maiden femorcs when
Moira when
Alleria when
Whitemane when
Paletress when
Bloodquen Lana'thel when
Alexstrasza when
Ysera when
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>>165217682

magatha grimtotem, vashj, the butterfly demon from diablo 3, onyxia
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>>165217351
I'm pretty ok with this.
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>>165218161
>Willingly wanting a sausage party

Why? I mean we just got Varian for fuck's sakes, nobody's favorite faction leader.
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>mfw trying to tank
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>>165217868
Onyxia when
Eredar twins when
Magatha Grimtotem when
Vereesa when
Selendis when
Vorazun when
Raszagal when
Rohana when
Izshaa when
Blood Raven when
FemDiablo when
Warlord Zaela when
Tyrant 'futanari' Velhari when
Felmyst when
Mother Sharaz when
Freya when
Twin consorts when
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>>165218345
I'd rather have Varian than most of the people on this list. >>165217868
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>>165217682
Personally I'd rather see more females OC's based off of existing race archetypes (Troll Witch Doctors/Goblin Shredders/Tauren Spirit Walker) like Lunara than see like fucking Moira or whatever.
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>>165217682

>Warcraft
Gob Squad (Newt, Female Goblin)
Sassy Hardwrench
Magatha Grimtotem
Alextraza
Ysera
Lady Liadrin
Alleria
Maiev
Shandris
Lillian Voss
Aegwynn
Draka
Aggra
Garona

>Starcraft
Rohana
Selendis
Talis
Vorazun
Izsha
Mira Han

>Diablo
Amazon
Sorceress
Assassin (Natalya)
Andariel
Lilith
Adria
Cyadea


As well as a million chances at side ass characters or kits to fit them.

There's plenty
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>>165218882
>Goblin Shredder hero
>When you die, your goblin ejects from his seat and turns into a Goblin Sapper
>Press Q to KABOOM
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>>165217868
>>165218669
Vanessa Van Cleef when
Lilian Voss when
Jandice Barov when
Therazan when
Maexxna when
Grand Widow Faerlina when
Lady Blaumex when
DK Whitemane when
Cordana when
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Valeera
Lucio
DVa
Malthael
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>new bundle
>really want Desert Queen Zagara
>the rest is shit
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>>165220128
???
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>>165220128
Lucio would be so fucking boring in HOTS my god

At least give us Ana
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>>165221892
Lucio would be boring as a HEAL SLUT.

Speed Boost all day.
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>>165218424
>tfw only do my best as tank
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>>165222131
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>tfw you style on them with Tracer.

I stopped playing her after getting her to ten before they nerfed the hell out of her. She's still fun.
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ez troll life
last pick muradin as 3d warrior instead of support, easy win as expected
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jade serpent kick when
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>>165223403
Why aren't you playing only Gazlowe and Azmodan? I ´feel robbed.
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>>165224824
bcs its boring. also illiDAN. that malf in match history is a game where i played without ulti and talents. thinking of buying medivh rnow, idk what to troll with. gonna continue picking warrior when team needs support
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>>165224763
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>>165223403
>vulture accounts sitting between d1 and d4
>play whatever
>win without supports
>people in the depths of silver and gold blow up if they don't have some tournament comp

>gazmodan
god bless even if you aren't sticking to those two exclusively lmao
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>>165225024
at least pick Zarya then
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>>165225024
Don't let what happened to LightKnight happen to you.
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>>165216895
>>165225079
Blackpaw got no skills
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how long is nexus charger in the shop for? i still need 10k more gold..
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>>165226408
It might go away on the 24th.
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>>165221986
nigga Brightwing is already Lucio
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man i want torbjorn in hots. at the very least as a legendary muradin skin (unlike widowshit, with torbjorn voice, molten core yelling during avatar and so on)

used to think he would be gazlowe v2, but they could actually make his turret a hero like rexxar's misha or one of the vikings, but static


Q - change basic attack type to like it's giant killer, close range
W - switch to hammer to fix/upgrade turret
E - throw pickable armor to target location, generates passively, collects from dead heroes
D - turret
R - +hp + attack speed + lvl 3 turret
R2 - idk, maybe let him have 2 turrets, but they obviously cant upgrade to lvl 3. or maybe he could be like alarak and take second ulti on 20


i actually main torb in overwatch, im cancer (gazmodan) but i got to master at least
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>>165228085
he would also have funny dialogue wth muradin being pissed that muradin thinks he is one of the ironforge dwarves

and with lost vikings

and with gazlowe.. his nemesis
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>165214192
Medivh, not sure about the other so I'll just say Tracer, as she doesn't really add anything and only serves to make you regret picking something without mobility which is a drag in this game as it's becoming rampant.

Add, probably Baal and Moroes.
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>>165228914
moroes is literally just an undead guy with a knife, are you fucking RETARDED?
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>>165229038
He's the caretaker of Karazhan and will slit your fattened up jugular if you trespass, uninvited. His duty is all he has left now that he's a Forsaken.

I wish we were getting him instead of Valeera. Fuck.
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>>165229283
>Preparations must be made, because the master is coming home

literally shaking from that line
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>>165228914
How come all Undead feel the need to dress like a total spastic? Every time they're in tattered and torn clothing. I find it far better to be dressed well, especially fully covered up. For example my Undead character in WeW quickly had fully-closed armour.

>What's under that helmet?
>Oh shieeet a spookyton
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>>165214192
delet Lunara, and Murky

Add Darion Mograine and Baron Rivendare.
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>>165232375
>delet Murky

They already did, Anon.
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I wish every Abathur that picks up Monstrosity would drop dead right now.

Fucking remove that ult already, holy fucking jesus.
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>>165232710
>people wanting monstrosity to be viable
>people wanting bloodlust to be viable
>people wanting earthquake to be viable

mistakes were made
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>>165234376
Yeah, we need more blue people, all we have are a bunch of greenskins.
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>>165232710
It has its uses, but it's so unbelievably niche that most of the time when you're going down the 'should I take monstrosity' checklist you're going to hit something that makes UE better.
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>>165234480
we need more shortstacks
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>>165234376
>try rebbit because why not
>post anything that isn't massively circlejerky
>downdooted to oblivion

oh okay i see now
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>>165234594
reddit isnt for discussion, its for news.
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>>165228085
I'll catch shit for this but Genji and Hanzo would work decently well in Overwatch, their niches haven't really been filled.

That said, putting reflect in HotS would be fucking aids
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>>165234768
Yeah, I didn't realize that at the time.

>>165234775
>Yasuo makes his way into the Nexus

pls no
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>>165234775
yeah genji would be like an illidan - li-ming without sustain. hanzo idk his abilities kinda suck for moba, except the ulti
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>>165234775
>>165234913
i wish blizzard did thematic multiple hero releases. like varian + garrosh, hanzo + genji and so on
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>>165234594
Reddit is a disgusting place, in that it greatly promotes hivemind thinking, and is generally anti-individualism. While 4chan is pretty hivemindey as well, the fact that every post is treated the exact same (Trip dipshits excluded) says more than enough.

The down/upvoting system is the center of it. Give people the power to determine whose post is and is not worth reading, and you'll hit the wall human beings are doomed to repeat, which is "I don't like this, therefor it should be gone, who is with me?" as opposed to treating everyone with equality as everyone BELIEVES they truly want (Which they don't.) and just being like "Well I don't agree with this dude at all but whatever, who am I to say his voice should never be heard.".

At least here, that shit isn't even an option. Instead, you just call the guy an asshole and move on with your life, as it should be.
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>>165234913
Scatter Arrow - Bounces off walls, does more damage if it bounces before hitting people

Sonar Arrow - Reveals an area or a hero if you hit them with it

Dragonstrike is his ult obviously

They could maybe do something with wall climb and use it like Talon's new E in league or something. I think he'd work. The only other archer we have is that corpse-slut.
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>>165235308
>Sonar Arrow - Reveals an area or a hero if you hit them with it
tyrande

>The only other archer we have is that corpse-slut
tyrande
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>>165235436
The owl's a fuckin meme

That said you are right I totally forgot about her, but we don't have an archer ASSASSIN.
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>>165235518
but hanzo is a defensive character so he would be a specialist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>165235673
Alright listen here you little shit

They should just add Junkrat

I think everyone would be fine with that
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>>165235251
Also it has been proven time and time again how manipulative, cheating (ignoring rules, bias etc) and out-right dishonest the mods and admins are all of the time. It's one thing for a shitty community, but for the mods and/or admins to be even worse is just recipe for a horrid website.
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>>165235724
>Junkrat
>The first hero to manually aim his auto-attacks
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>>165236209
>Gall

Also, what about Hanzo?
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>>165235834
Don't even fucking get me started on the mods. In the HotS subreddit, there was this post a while back about an all-female team being signed on with myInsanity or whatever the fuck, I don't give a shit about "E-sports" garbage.

So, I made this comment in that thread:

When asked what drove them to make the conscious decision to give the greenlight on an all-female team, mYinsanity simply replied:
"Because it's 2016."
A parade is scheduled to be held in mid August.

Lame ass, boring unoriginal joke, right? It was deleted. So when I asked the mod why it was deleted, their response was this:

"Your comment was removed because the joke implies that the 15/15 Canadian cabinet was bad and therefore an all female HotS team is too. It makes light of the situation when there are already comments in the thread about how women can't be competitive and some that state women can't play the game well at all."

Yeah, no. Fuck Reddit and those mods. You can't even make jokes if they're even SLIGHTLY jabby, even if it's all in good fun.
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genji

q - increase basic attack speed and attacks 2 additional enemies but dmg is reduced
w - dash in straight line to target location, dealing dmg to all the enemies. resets on enemy deaths
e - deflect basic attacks (but they go back like skillshots) and abilities like valla Q, muradin stormbolt, jaina Q but not cone
r - ryu jin no ken wo kurau!!!!!11 resets w and gain basic attack damage
r2 - idk
d - cyber agility. 2 stacks of jump with cd so u gotta manage them. jump once to pass over terrain, jump second time to gain invulnerable. also can climb over terrain and it has separate cd
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>>165236578
Wrong thread buddo.

And no since I no longer care for PvP in card games, but I like PvE, but they die quickly since it's just tutorial > tiny campaign. That's it.
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Post your top 3 for each franchise bitches & r8

WC:
>Lei Shen
>Velen
>Garona

SC:
>Stukov
>Ulrezaj
>Tosh

Diablo:
>Malthael
>Druid
>Mephisto

OW:
>Winston
>Genji
>Ana

Retro:
>Snake Sanders
>Blackthorne
>Sarlac or Tomator, torn between these 2


>
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>>165236656
>about an all-female team being signed on with myInsanity
I would totally give her my hat if you know what I mean.
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so, no new leaks for the post valeera roster?
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>>165237151
I don't think I follow? What kind of gift is a hat?
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So wait are we alreay done talking about Zul'jin? That was fast.
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>>165238609
he isnt OP
he isnt UP
nothing to talk about
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>>165238609

I'm enjoying how plebbit think AA taz'dingo I'd his only option and anyone that picks anything else is bad. The threads range from him either being hilariously UP or OP in their heads.
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>>165239603
Well his ults are both a little undertuned and his mana costs are a notch too high, i guess thats it.

Although I will say, I feel like W build is the only consistently viable build on him, the other two get shut down by blinds and stuns and shit. At least with W build you can poke from a safe range very connsistently
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has anyone ever considered fapping to a HotS girl?
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>>165240558
>not fapping to /ourguy/ Green's Tyrande
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>>165240558
>Not fapping to scorpion waifu
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>>165239779

Personally I favour the W build but AA works well on some maps.

Eternal battlefield - AA
Shrines - W
Bhb - Either
Spider Queen - W
Cursed Hollow - W
Haunted mines - Either
Garden of terror - W
Braxxis - W
Warhead - W
Dragon shrine - Either

I've had pretty decent success with this though AA can really shine if you have the comp to support it. W is defo more fun however
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>in quick match queue 400s

WHY CAN'T I JUST DO MY FUCKING DAILIES VS AI WITH INSTANT QUEUES AND 5 MINUTE GAMES WITHOUT PEOPLE FUCKING MAKING FUN OF ME FOR DOING GAMES VS AI

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE TOLERATE THIS SHIT?
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>>165244567

>People making fun of you for playing ai

Literally no one cares about that, especially if you just say it's for daily quests
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>Solo Warrior on each team, ours is Varian
>He goes Fury

Every fucking time. I can't escape fucking retards in this game. QM, Ranked, nothing matters, everybody is just so fucking shit and makes the worst decisions they could possibly make. Like, nobody goes out of their way to make the smarter decision. God I can't stand this game's fucking community.
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>my webweavers shall weave a web of death upon your foes RRREEEEEEE
quality writing
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>>165240558
I fapped to every single one of them except chromie and bw
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>>165214192
Samuro and Tracer get removed.
Add Zenyatta (Ranged Support, HoT based) and Samir Duran/Emil Narud/Nameless Xel'naga (Ranged Assassin, blasty mage)
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>>165245780
Casual
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STAND SKIN WHEN ?
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>>165237049
>ana
faggot/10
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>>165214192
ragnaros and varian

Ragnaros is not that great but both of his ult are stupid

People that actually play Varian is ranked are useless shitter and if they won it's because they were carried by their team.

They should stop putting heroes without mana, add Baal with some abilities that burns mana and a curse that makes you loose health when using a skill

And they should also add a weird hero like medivh or abathur. Deckard Cain probably
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>>165237049
>Terokk
>Mannoroth
>King Ymiron

>Gui Montag
>Alan Schezar
>Tom Kazansky

>Blood Raven
>Duriel
>Andariel

>Junkrat
>Hanzo
>D.va

>Superman
>>
>>165237049
That AREN'T in the game or something?

WC:
>Al'Akir
>Moroes
>Drakuru

SC:
I know nothing of SC.

Diablo:
>Baal
>Druid
>Rakanishu

OW:
>Zenyatta
>76
>Reaper

Retro:
>Superman
>Superman
>Superman
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>>165237049
Diablo :
>Mephisto
>Assassin
>Tyrael in D2.
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>QM
>Their team has a useless Abathur
>He takes Bronstrosity
>He doesn't lay mines
>He doesn't hat anyone at the right time
>Easy win
>Next QM
>Same Abathur is one my team
>He's calling everyone useless while doing nothing
>Lose badly
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>>165237049
WC
>Grom
>Kel'Thuzad
>Nefarian

SC
>Fenix
>Warfield
>Stukov

Diablo
>Blood Raven
>Dark Wanderer
>Imperius

OW
>Winston
>Pharah
>Reinhardt

Retro
>Tomator
>Blackthorne
>>
>>165237049
WarCraft:
I don't know WarCraft lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

StarCraft:
Samir Duran/Emil Narud/Nameless Xel'naga
Fenix
Protoss Carrier hero (somehow)

Diablo:
Mephisto
Imperius
Aidan (Diablo 1 Warrior)

Overwatch:
Zenyatta
Reinhardt
Junkrat

Retro:
Fang & Scorch (Duo hero in the style of TLV)
>>
>>165238609
He's kinda average. Taz'dingo bait is alright but he walks the razor's edge of HP and most players aren't good enough to make that work.
>>
>had great games while silenced
>not silenced anymore
>get literal shitters the team
It's like it's trying to get me silenced again
>>
>>165250479
baiting people into blowing you up so you can burn their entire team with Taz'dingo is fucking hilarious
>>
>>165238609
not much to talk about other than he should have been out in 2014. pretty standard stuff.
>>
>winning all game long
>then my team goes full retard
>refusing to fucking back off when it's 2v5 at enemy core
>varian charging in 1v5 when the enemy has a punisher on that lane
>everyone in general diving deep into the enemy while outnumbered and then crying for heals
I think I want to be silenced again
>>
Where the FUCK is Hogger???
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>>165237049
WC
>Maiev
>Azshara
>Mannoroth

SC
>Stukov
>Selendis
>Rohana

Diablo
>Cyadea
>Imperius
>Mephisto

OW
>ow
Don't want any of this shit in this game.

>Retro
Same fucking thing.

Bonus edition, two more of each.

>Tichondrius
>Kil'jaeden
>Fenix
>Duran/Narud
>Spearzon
>63 Monk
>>
Where are my grandmaster skins for level 20 heroes?
>>
>>165254050
They're gonna have more hats than tf2
>>
>>165254050

>more spikes
>more ugly aesthetic

No
>>
>>165254185
What about more slut?
For both males and females
>>
Why does hammer drive a tank instead of duke
Why is hammer a thing
Why is medic a mexican goblin and not a blonde beauty
Why do both of them have voices that make me wanna kill myself
>>
>artanis gets 10 coins off killing rag
>has like 10hp left
>gets behind our keep
>decides now is a good time to attack that full hp kharazim right outside our keep
>dies instantly
>>
>>165254802
Duke will be the BC hero
Medic is based on Brood War not SC2
Hammer's voice is fine fuck you
>>
Rate my Valeera kit bros

>Trait
Stealth, cannot be used if enemy has vision of you, unlocks additional abilities while stealthed, using an ability breaks stealth

>Q Envenom/Ambush

Envenom inflicts mild damage and applies minor slow.
Ambush while in stealth for significant burst

>W Rupture/Cheap shot

Rupture applies a heavy dot
Cheap shot from stealth for a stun

>E Sprint/Shadowstep

Sprint for movespeed, low duration low CD
Shadowstep to teleport to targrt in stealth, doesn't break stealth on use

>R1 Vanish

Places you back into stealth, can be used if they have vision of you. Passively increase damage after stealth breaks by a small amount

>R2 Vendetta

Mark a target granting vision and damage bonus to the target for the duration. Applies to additional enemies if the target dies during.

Talents could include shit like cloak of shadows on 20 for a spell immunity or self cleanse, poison talent row at 13 to spec into a poison eg more slow, extra dot or healing reduction on Envenom. Utility talents to make Shadowstep targetable on allies too etc
>>
>>165255210
>weirdass american dialect
>shit voice
>fine
>>
>>165254802
Because feminism
>>
>>165255493
sounds cancerous as fuck, so perfect for Valeera
>>
>>165255210
>Hammer's voice is fine fuck you
No it's not. She has the most obnoxious voice in the entire game and is just painful to listen to.
>>
>>165255493

>No skill shots

Not gonna happen, but good try
>>
>>165255860
vanish's level 20 upgrade adds an optional dash to it

boom
>>
>>165237049
>WC:
-Turalyon
-Teron Gorefiend
-Garrosh

>SC:
Mengsk
Mengsk again
Stukov

>Diablo:
-Malthael
-some other big ugly evil thing, whatever would play fun
-never played diablo, whatever you'll recomend will probably be alright

>OW:
-D.Va
-Hanzo
-Ana
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>>165254802
Sgt. Hammer replaced Horace Warfield, not Edmund Duke. Duke was never in planning.
As to why.. there's no real reason. Duke would be a terrible hero, Warfield would too. So why not.

You make the medic a pale blonde with her master skin, second tint
>>
>>165256080
>Gorefiend
http://wow.zamimg.com/wowsounds/561713
Fucking when
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>>165237049
WC:
>Putress
>some noname goblin sapper
>Valen

SC:
>Gui motherfucking Montag
>Zurvan
>Zasz

Diablo:
>Lazarus
>Anduin
>Mephisto

OW:
>Winston
>Genji
>Symmetra

Retro:
dunno, I've only played TLV
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>demotion match
>gazlowe pick on cursed
>healer crashes 5 minutes into the game
>gazlowe attempts solo boss with wombo combo build and dies
>enemy snowball of tlv
>rehgar gets back into the game with core at 36%
>13 min gg
the only constant is you
>>
>>165214192
Toss lili and tass, add tass (as a not shit templar) and almost literally anyone else. Theres a huge list of must haves.
>>
>>165256434

>Andy in as a diablo representative

Lay off the drugs anon
>>
Can we PLEASE get a moratorium on Orcs in this game.
>>
>>165258261
after Garrosh, Nazgrim and Ner'zhul
>>
>>165258261
We can have a few more orcs, but they really need to be the brown non-Fel orcs because we have too many greenskins.
>>
>>165255493
>unlocks additional abilities while stealthed, using an ability breaks stealth

so basically remove any reason to play other stealth based heroes because the new one has 6 instead of 3 basic ablities.

amazing idea
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>>165220128
>Lucio
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>>165258332
Garrosh with a bonus Grom skin.

No more fucking orcs after that.
>>
>>165256661
>promotion match
>first pick is Nova
>next pick is Rag, 3rd guy highlights Nazeebo and 4th guy has nothing highlighted
>"alright guys, I can either tank or support, but someone else has to do the other"
>3rd locks in as Nazeebo
>4th picks Valla
>pick Muradin and try my best
>lose

only :^)
constant :^^^)))
>>
why did this game die, it's so much better than the competition? ;_;
>>
>>165257137
>>165256434
eh, meant Aidan
>>
>>165259086
promotion matches from bronze are hard m8 :^)
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>>165259213
>this only happens in bronze

you give the hots playerbase too much credit
>>
>>165259115
this is the stupidest meme
>>
>>165260020
It's not a meme when I actually believe it.
>>
>>165259434
This never happens to me.
>>
>>165260064
The game is only dead in comparison to two of the biggest games on the planet.

It has roughly the same player base as Smite, with a developer that will literally never abandon it and the most consistent update cycle of any Blizzard game currently out.

Chill the fuck out.
>>
Fuck, Marry and Kill any hero already added in the game.

Which do you choose anon?
>>
>>165261221
Fuck Li Ming
Marry Auriel
Kill Nova
>>
Daily reminder that the Loot tab will save HOTS
>>
>>165261221
Fuck Li Li
Marry Sylvanas
Kill Sonya
>>
>>165260525
>roughly the same player base as Smite
So dead as fuck?
>>
>>165262151
>implying any HiRez game can truly die and not shamble as an undying zombie for eternity
>>
>>165262065
You cannot save something that is already dead
>>
>>165228085
Deployes turets, plants shields and w/e, D is for picking them up for near immediate use but if they get destroyed goes on long cd. Trick is to pick up important gizmos before that and redeploy them seconds after.
>>
>>165261221
Fuck Lunara
Marry Sonya
Kill Tracer
>>
Diableah skin when?
>>
From Warcraft 3 alone, we still do not have:
-A Troll Shadow Hunter hero
-Kel'Thuzad
-A Dreadlord hero
-Maeiv
-Lady Vashj
-A Goblin Alchemist hero
-A Pit Lord hero
-Akama

Also missing potential units that could be turned into heroes like:
-Dwarf Mortar Team
-Gyrocopter
-Spellbreaker

-Troll Witch Doctor
-Troll Batrider
-Spiritwalker

-Obsidian Destroyer

-Druid of the Claw/Talon
-Mountain Giant
-Huntress

-Goblin Sapper/Shredder
>>
>>165261221
Fuck Stitches
Marry Azmodan
Kill Tyrande
>>
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>game is not dead
>i-i swear
>>
>>165264202
Ancient of war hero.
Can root down to start spitting out minions.
>>
>>165264361

The game is having a hard time finding people as bad as you to fill a match
>>
>>165264202
Witch Doctor and Shadow Hunter don't need to be two separate things.

>Batrider & Sapper

I also don't know how you'd make a hero that's based entirely around suiciding into buildings.
>>
>korean masters team fight
>literally nothing happening for 2 minutes then both teams retreat to base for HP and mana

I fell asleep
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>>165220128
>Lucio

prepare for memes
>>
>>165265113
>I also don't know how you'd make a hero that's based entirely around suiciding into buildings.
Consider the following: Murky
>>
>>165265639
Murky is fragile and built around dying pretty frequently, but he isn't explicitly a suicide bomber. Those two units explicitly blow themselves up.
>>
>>165265834
You're oblivious to the obvious despite it hitting you in the face.
>>
>>165265972
Oh my bad, I misread that how as a why.
>>
>>165264361
Also had a long (250s) queue on qm with Varian... pretty slow
>>
>>165261221
Fuck Jaina
Marry Murky
Kill Cho
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>it's another "the enemy has Artanis/ETC/Muradin/Malf or some other S/A+ Tier shit" episode
>it's another "they're terrible but you still lose by a hair's breadth because their ez heroes carry them" episode

I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE. FIX YOUR FUCKING RETARDED GAME BLIZZARD AND NERF THESE GOD DAMN POWERHOUSE EASYMODE HEROES ALREADY FFS.
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>>165220128
for all sad words of tongue and feather
the saddest are these
NEVER EVER
>>
>>165267283
>and your team has a Nova with 13k hero damage at 20 minutes and 200 siege damage
>>
>>165264202
You forgot Tauren Chieftain and Kil'jaeden/Archimonde. Forgot what their class was called.

Shandris is the Huntress
>>
>>165268921
I think Archimonde's class was warlock or something like that?
>>
So, what are the chances that Blizzard will actually use Valeera's old personality from the comics instead of Literal LoL Katarina from Hearthstone?
>>
>>165270357
Remebering the same.
>>
What are the odds they butcher Valeera's thigh game?
>>
>>165271380

They fucked up Li-Ming's delicious thighs, so probably.
>>
>>165271380
They only enhanced Tyrande's, the HotS team isnt a bunch of week kneed sjws like the OW team. Expect FULL ASS.
>>
>>165270645
Zero
Valeera is only famous because of HS.
>>
>>165237049
>WC
>Garrosh
>Blackhand
>Kel'Thuzad, Archlich of Naxxramas etc. etc.

>Diablo
>lmao who cares

>Starcraft
>lmao who cares

>Overwatch
>Zenyatta
>Pharah
>>
>>165271585

Valeera is literally going to be Katarina from LoL if they just transplant her from Hearhstone, because her personality and voice actress are literally the same.
>>
>>165265639
>tfw someone firstpicks Murky in your plat4-3 promotion match and you win the game anyway
>>
>>165271584
>OW has Mei and Zarya, Hanzo and McCree
>HotS has a bunch of generic bimbos and NO cute males

variety, is the spice of life
>>
>>165272516
>NO cute males
What about Kael?
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>its another "your enemy got Malf in QM, you lose" episode


NERFS WHEN. F U C K I N G WHENNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>165274998
>qm
>bronze
>>
>>165245897
Ana's playstyle would be pretty fun in a moba.
>>
>>165274998

Your fault for not being aggressive enough. Can't win a poke war against Malf.
>>
>>165274998
>waaah 1 hero i always lose to cause i'm a shit cunt! ;_;
If you're true to your logic, why don't you pick him, faggot? Worthless.
>>
>last pick
>hover whatever I want to play
>all four other players tilted off the face of the planet because it's not support/fill

hm wonder if they're ever going to attempt to address this
>>
>>165276296
fuck off and die Malf mainer, people want to play something other than that unfun, boring piece of shit cunt
>>
>>165276950
>braindead thing buffed into the meta
>people think it's okay because they were bad for so long

reminds me of wow desu
>>
>>165274420
he looks like someone's gay uncle
>>
>>165278467
Was your gay uncle a meth addict who watched his people marching ever closer to the brink of extinction?
>>
>Enemy has Li Ming
>She just sits outside your turret range throwing shit at the towers until they fall
>If you get close to her then she just blinks away or Malf roots you and you eat her nukes
What the fuck do you do
Its like every time they add a mage they just make the next one a better version of the previous one
>>
>abathur free week
see you in 6 days
>>
>>165280162
You get two assasins to dive her with some stuns and she's dead
>>
>>165278653
no but he has a dumb pointy chin and a weird nose.
>>
Stitches might be the first time I've seen a hook hero be unpopular.
What happened?
>>
>>165280967
Haha
*Nukes you with Arcane Orb while you approach*
Not so tough missing 30% of your life, eh?
*proceeds to throw 5 Magic Missiles in your face* Now you're at 40% life and trying to run away? Should have thought this trough! Take this!
*Teleports on top of you and finishes you off with a Triple Stack Canoneer into your face*
An expected outcome... Now for the chump that was with you.
*eyeballs her skills having just come off cooldown*
Hehe, I'm gonna enjoy this...
>>
>>165283228
Because he's terrible.
>>
>>165283228
He doesnt have good followup cc or damage, because he is just a tank. Plus, nobody who plays this game is really THAT good, so landing a slow hook in the first place can be hard. He's no Pudge, and he's no Blitzcrank. They tried to be a little more unique with him, and it turns out nobody wants a unique Pudge, they just want Pudge.
>>
>>165283228
Artanis can do the same thing but better AND Artanis has a passive unlike Stitches.
>>
>>165283247
Arcane Orb does fuck all up close
Dodging missiles is easy as shit
If she somehow killed you, the other guy would be too close to deal any proper damage to
>>
>>165283228
Because he's ugly and awful.

>>165283247
Are people still complaining about Li-Ming?
>>
>>165283228
The fun about hooks is being able to grab enemys from outside their vision and then blow them up. Hots has incredible small lanes and stitches is tanky but he can't really solokill unless they decide to not walk away from him since he has no real damage or cc
>>
>>165283361

Because unlike other games, a solo hook from Stitches doesn't mean he gets a kill. Pudge lands a hook and 100-0s most heroes, Roadhog hooks and instantly kills most targets, and Stitches hooks and gets to watch his target simply walk away because he has no damage follow up with a team.
>>
>>165283228
Artanis is just flat out better and also has hook
>>
>>165283562

At least Blitzcrank has a knockup and silence. Stitches kit just doesn't really feel like it works with his hook.
>>
>>165283228
He's nothing but a hook. A hero with literally one skill that does something.
Slam does nothing, pretty much.
Bite helps you do nothing for a bit longer.

And his one signature move and reason to exist in the game, that is, completely ripping someone out of position so your team can shred him, has been taken away by Artanis. Because Hook gets stopped by the first whatever it hits, Artanis can do this shit through minions. It's harder to react to a Dash Prism because there's less distance it has to cover and comes out faster.

>b-but that throws Artanis right into the middle of the enemy team
Yes, and he's a tank and has enough tankiness to survive waddling back to his team, which his last skill off cooldown will conveniently help with.
He also actually deals damage in a teamfight, compared to Mr. Fleasack. And he has a good zoning ult and a teamwide 4 second blind. Global ults, at that.
Meanwhile Stitches can puke a bit and slow people. Or Gorge, but guess why that's shit.
>>
>>165283228
I mean Sylvanus in Smite isn't super popular, and Roadhog is actually kind of in the middle of the pack.

Regardless I think is because literally ALL he has going for it is the hook, and in HotS only having the hook doesn't really do much. He can't do anything alone, where as the other hook characters can solo. Except for maybe Sylvanus, but that's probably why he's unpopular as well.
>>
>>165283440
>implying it's not going to hit you at 3/4 range because I saw you coming from miles away
No shit you can pick off a Bronze Ming :)
>>
>>165283803
no offense dude, but Hook-Gorge-(some assassin follow up or a tower) is still good if you can land it

>>165283562
>>165283858
Rudehug is the best non!pudge desu
>>
>>165283970
>gorge
>good

Nope.
>>
>>165283970
Gorge just alleviates the problem of your teammates not reacting in time to your hooks. The "drag him in your base" situation is just so rare it's not worth considering it.
If your team has even one assassin worth his salt, Gorge has lost it's one reason it isn't complete shit.
>>
>>165283730

It used to when he released, but they've nerfed him pretty hard over the years.

Pretty much his only synergy is with Gorge, but it's a heroic and not all that good without follow up.
>>
>>165283228
He needs some physical armor like Arthas because his ability to control the enemy and stay in the fight is just trash at the moment.
But he had his time in the meta awhile back when his HP pool was gargantuan and Slam did great damage.
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>>165285017
What if he had a quest or a passive that increased his health by a flat amount every time he ate a minion or something along those lines?
>>
>>165285350
He needs hook to apply a 50% slow for a couple of seconds and remove the extra range talent. Also slam actually doing some damage would help
>>
>>165285350
he needs
>hook to pass over minions/summons/mercs
>slam to deal more dmg + maybe baseline slow
>a passive that does more, maybe slows or reducing enemy armor etc.
>>
>>165285350

He had that in regeneration master, but they removed it because late game he would have like 12k HP and was a bit hard to kill back when GK talents were not as popular/wide spread.
>>
>>165286569
>devouring things with E permanently increases health/damage
>regeneration globes permanently increase health/damage

idk make his hero fantasy about walking around eating everything until he's some massive late game beefcake of a hero

because designing a new kit for an old hero nobody that actually works is probably a waste
>>
Stiches needs to hook people into his team, or those enemies that are low on HP, or from objectives. That's how his hook is utilized in this game.

His hook is only used 1v1 to catch escaping opponents, you bring down their HP with other methods. You bait them into staying in a 1v1 with you.
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>gnomes
>>
>hurr durr Sonya is bad
>mfw I still jump on people's heads and HOOAOAOOAOAOAOAOAOAOOAAA!!! them to death
>>
>>165291856
it's like a countdown
>>
>>165286794
What if his model and hero hitbox increased by 1% every time he ate something and it also gave him bonus health
Make him the ultimate abomination
A monstrous golem of flesh and rot
>>
>>165292932
>Stitches, but every time he hits his E he gets bigger
>>
>>165293082
>Varian, but every time he uses Colossus Smash the sound duplicates and it gets a little louder
>>
>>165293465
>Sonya, but every time she jumps she jumps higher and the sound gets more high pitched
>>
so why is anub'arak so kinky
>>
>>165292932
abominations can't be cool, only retards and Futurama jokes are allowed
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So i haven't played this game in a long time (Greymane Patch)

What is a good hero to buy? what's META?
>>
>>165293984
Mummy bug is into bondage and quadruple penetration.
>>
>>165295828
Indubitably kinky.
>>
>>165292289

>stop dirt leagues in solo queue QM
>compare it to high level team play meta HL/TL

makin me laff m8
>>
>>165292289

I won a HL game with Murky, does that mean he's god tier?
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>>165296796
>>165296953
ah, I crave that mineral
>>
>>165292289

quit associating that garbage tumblr show with best hots girl
>>
>>165297056
>>165292289

Who says she's bad? She's just not optimal in the current meta, but in the right circumstances she can be good.

Unfortunately, so long as Diablo, Muradin, Dehaka, and Artanis are in the top tier, there will never be a reason to pick her over any of those.
>>
stitches is good in some disruption comps, i had an enemy team of stitches, diablo, tassadar, falstaad and one more DPS

stiches or diablo would snatch someone, tassadar and falstaad would delay the rest of the team while they killed him, every fight was 4v5 and there was nothing we could do about it
>>
>>165292289
>taking leap instead of berserker rage
wew
>>
>>165297624
She was bad before the current meta. She just had company. Now instead of Artanis tier it's just Sonya tier.
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>>165297619
no
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>>165298273
>taking a nearly secure kill instead of waiting for your team to do all the work while you spam slams like a jolly idiot
What a tool.
>>
>>165299086
>can't land spears
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>wood league shitter wins a few games with shit hero
>"HURR TOLD U THEY GUD"
>takes shit talents
>can't even play hero well
>avatarfags for a reason to use their shitty images

When can we end it
>>
>>165240558
Sonya, and Zagara are top tier fap material.
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>>165295390
>>
>>165299387
spear is good
but jump smash spear smash is gooder
>>
>>165300630
>which heroes do you play
>which modes do you play
>what do you own
>what is skill level

Need something to work with.
>>
>>165300630
Li ming, ETC, Mura, Reghar, Thrall, Malf.
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>>165300793
own all other then the stuff from greymane on

>>165300813
thanks senpai
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>>165301067
They're all shit and last month's meta.

Out of all those, Li Ming is a "maybe" and Malf is a pretty good healslut.

I'd just hoard coins and stick with f2ps until you find something you like.

Don't buy heroes before you try them.
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>>165301408
t. goldie pretending he know about the game
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>>165301465
Regardless of how right I am about the meta (I am right), he still shouldn't buy shit just because somebody thinks they're meta and/or before he tries them out and decides they're worth spending gold on.

Blizzard is making all the heroes f2p for 3 days because they're gearing up to launch something and trying to motivate people to spend their gold this week. It's a good reason not to buy shit until next week.
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>>165301812
>Blizzard is making all the heroes f2p for 3 days because they're gearing up to launch something and trying to motivate people to spend their gold this week. It's a good reason not to buy shit until next week.

This is exactly what I've been thinking about the Nexus Horse.
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>>165302095
That horse is so fucking ugly and doesn't even match the game characters.
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>tfw nobody to help a young one take heart
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>>165302521

Nothing personel, kid
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>>165303131
I still don't understand why people like this meme character.
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>>165303180

She's a bad guy that killed Cairne and the only significant female tauren in existence. Pretty unique for taurens.
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>>165261221
fuck li li
marry li li
kill everyone who's already dead anyway
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>>165303180
Being the major antagonist for an entire race is not being a meme character.
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>>165303180

i haven't followed any of the bullshit WoW story in nearly a decade, but i remember when the game was new. it was very strange that she had her own specific title and there was a quest line about how her whole family were schemers. I think she even had her own voice lines? in any case this was back when the World of Warcraft was a world of mystery and adventure rather than the shitshow it is now.

same reason I like varian. I remember it being so strange that you could find the king of stormwind on an island in the middle of nowhere, with no quests associated to him. after reading his wiki entry, it looks like they absolutely butchered him with some classic Metzen hackery, but i'm still glad he's in the game.
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>>165303612
>in any case this was back when the World of Warcraft was a world of mystery and adventure rather than the shitshow it is now.

More like it was back then when I was 12 lol
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MAKE WAAAY
FOR DA BAD GUY
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>>165303850
If I pull that mask off, will he die?
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>>165304067
It would be very painful
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>Cho'Gall with the name Kyr'appy
>does nothing all game except wander around
>gets both of the enemy's Garden Terrors
>uses one to chase fight one of the map bosses and teamfight, doesnt take a single structure
>spends the entirety of the other one chasing Zeratul around the map.
>spends non-terror time feeding uncontrollably

I love how these things just work themselves out sometimes.
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>>165304117
He's a bad guy.
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>>165304349
TAZ'DINGOOOOO
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winston next is already confirmed. trust me on this one.

warrior

>q: jump. pushed and damages enemy heroes
>w: barrier
>e: self-heal

r: rage
r2: global ability lowering cool downs
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>>165305136

i believe you random anonymous poster on 4channel.org
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>>165305136
nooooo

of all the overwetch characters why the gorilla
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>>165305136
>Self-Heal.

What?
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>>165305136
Pls send this to cnn and buzzfeed
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>>165305136
>>e: self-heal
Confirmed fake, as if it wasn't already obvious enough
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no trust me on this guys

ghostcrawler
>is that dumb ghostly crab thing
specialist

q: hides in shell
w: snip
e: self heal

r: become a ghost
r2: crawls around
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>play a game of hots
>queue for next one and start watching anime
>finish half of the episode by the time the next game starts
>games are usually only 15-20 minutes
Literally spending 33% of my time waiting for games when playing hots
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>>165305239
Gotta feed the retards and their super dank hamarambay maymay.
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>>165303653

nice bait tot. here is your (you).
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>>165305673
isn't samuro getting a harambe skin soon though

>>165305585
at least people don't generally dodge in hots
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>we're winning by a fair amount
>have a wipe
>someone on our team starts talking shit about how everyone but him is to blame
>purposefully play badly to throw the match
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>>165305980

alternatively:

>get carried by superior players, signficant lead
>do everything in my power to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, because i am a bad player who doesn't belong at this rank
>pretend this was a conscious effort on my part, and not just me being bad
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>>165303602
tauren are indian cow people, their whole existence is one giant meme.
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>>165303602
Being the major antagonist for a meme race is being a meme character
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>>165305136
excuse me for....... dropping in
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Oh.

Is Valeera Katarina?
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>>165306519
>>165306574
They were better when totems werent conduits for the elements, and more like giant wooden pillars to beat the shit out of you with.
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>>165306748
How many more times are you going to post this?
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New leveling system when?
Doesn't feel rewarding playing level 20 heroes
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>>165307030
Eh?
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http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Zul'jin/Zul'jin%20-%20Default/ZuljinBase_Yes05.mp3

what the fuck does he even say
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>>165308254
"Daddy wanna wung her!"

Are you deaf?
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>>165308254

he's saying "dey wangi wanga" its something trolls say in wow.
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>>165308254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V0Qm6_YLB4
Trolls say some weird things
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I'm a whiz of a wiz. I mean, if ever a wiz there was that is.
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>>165311221
Which Doctor? This Doctor.
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>>165312406
>Nazeebo and his stand 「Witch Doctor」
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Does Chromie have the most diverse talent tree?

All but 3 of her talents are useful.
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Why does Varian's hair turn blue in his master skin
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>>165314846
Because he's an anime protagonist.
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>>165313606
Yeah. Should I go the Q build? Or should I go the Q build?
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>>165313606
jaina, zeratul, bw are close enough. maybe thrall and sonya but i haven't played either in a while. this game has a long way to go.

>>165315980
think her weakness is more that with enough experience or decent drafting her 13 is pretty low value all around. the 16s are pretty dull as well. "more of the same" talents there.
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>>165314846
Because it's not his hair, it's a plum on the back of the helmet. They more than likely just couldn't change the model for it so instead just used the same model his normal ponytail has, because they had already maxed out the amount of memory he would use up.

I was lost on that at first too.
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>>165285350
Cho'gath please go
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>>165317927
>gain buff to size and health for each unique hero you devour/gorge

Might be cool. Any other Blizzard heroes we might see get something like this?
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>>165318119
Professor Putricide is all I can think of. Slowly growing shit on his body, until eventually hulking out and becoming a massive abomination.
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Could Valeera be multispec?
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>>165318336
>Assassination Rogue
>hey guys what if she is a specialist too
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>>165318336
I doubt it. They would just be fucking themselves over if she were, just because there are other, bigger name Rogues. They wouldn't cockblock themselves like that.
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Who else likes a dash of sallac in their soup?
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In development video again real soon

Screencap this
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>>165320624
According to schedule, we would be stupid not to expect one like tomorrow. Doesn't take much to assume that.
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>tfw free newbie stim running out in 3+ days
Talk about bad timing. I won't get to level up everyone.
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>>165320779
>he doesn't have everyone at level 5 already
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>>165321530
I don't know how I'm going to get everyone to lv 20 once my stim is gone.

Pretty depressing to think about.
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>>165321530
>there are people who aren't at least 9 on every Hero
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>>165322221
Shut up, that's not even your pic.

You're just shitposting with a Redditor's pic.
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>2014
>game was in alpha
>so many people playing that master required 3600+ mmr
>2 years after release
>master cutoff is down to 2700

Fuck this dead game
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>>165322483
Of course it isn't. I can't begin to fathom playing this unfinished mess anywhere near that much.

>>165322930
Maybe next season. :^)
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>tfw you were the top Siege/Damage and XP at score
>You are not the nvp
>Not even in the nvp screen
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>>165217351
Blizz is awful with females characters
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>>165325110
I fucking hate this. You could soak perfectly and there's nothing there to point out that it's a great thing to look for in a player despite being SO important.
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Why aren't you making friends, anon?
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>>165326159
why arent you cropping your images anon
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>>165326159
Why is paint still so useless.
>>165326208
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>>165322930
Master cutoff is so low because of the mmr cut hotslogs does before every season. They scrunch everyone's mmrs way closer together, but too much for anyone to get up to or past where they were before the soft reset.

RIght before season 1 masters was still around ~3.6k
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>>165322930
The hotdog guy just squished the MMR super hard. 3.8k the new 4.5k.
It's a pretty shitty system anyway, blizzards meme divisions are much better.
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Bought Li Ming yesterday, never had so much fun in QM before. Teleport build all the way.
Enemy team was a 3 man and a 2 man party with Medivh Artanis etc, while we only had a 2 man party.

I BTFO'd Medivh so hard, even though he was pretty good. I didn't die a single time even though they were 5 man chasing me multiple times. MVP all the way, felt good being a slippery fucker, even though damage was only okay.

TLDR. TELEPORT BUIL
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Valeera.... heh

>Velen (Support)
>Karax (Specialist/Assassin-multiclass)
>Arcturus Mengsk (Specialist)
>Cydaea (Specialist)
>Winston (Warrior)
>D.Va (Warrior)
>Aidan (Warrior)
>Grom (Assassin)

There is so many heroes this year, a few here
:^)
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>>165330797
>diablo heroes
ahahahahahaha nice try
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>>165217351
Reminder that most of the male heroes are non-human. The human characters are evenly split between genders.
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I don't know if people know this already, but I think that Auriel is bugged. If you take her level 1 talent that makes ray of heaven deal damage, that damage you deal comes back as energy. I am 99.99% sure that this never used to happen, but the game I just played her I almost always had full energy. I even took the -2 sec cd reduction talent to be able to use it all, to great effect

tldr Auriel is buggo'd in a good way
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>>165332796
Also: I never don't take Searing Light, so I would have DEFINITELY noticed this before. I don't think it came with the Zul'jin patch, because I have played her since but didn't actually notice it. I could be extremely retarded, though

I did also check in a test game, it can be replicated
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>>165244567

I do that every day for quests and to work on my underused characters. No one really talks shit about it.
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>>165330797
>diablocucks still this delusional
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>>165312869
>OOH EEH OOH AH AH TING TANG WALLA WALLA AOAOAAHHAHAAHHAAAAUGGHHAA!!!!
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I can only win QM games if I play something that pushes. Nobody ever fucking does it, or plays shit that can push. Lately the enemy team always has an Azmodan, and I have fucking nothing on my team like that, or in the case of just now, if I do, it's a fucking Murky.

I just want to play Zul'jin, but oh my god I have to be the one that clears every single fucking game.
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>>165312869

Is there any blizz character who would fit as a stand user?

I suppose Rexxar is close, but technically damage to misha would hurt him and his bird would fky from misha.
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>>165333813
Murky's not that bad if not played by a retard. Can be extremely annoying and persistent.

>inb4 hurr murky player
Don't even own the faggot.
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>>165333843
Monk? He does summon spirit warriors to fight for him.
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>>165333813
Just ppay rag and wash away your anger in a sea of lava
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>>165333931
The problem with Murky is that he gets soft nerfed every time a good AA hero comes out. It used to be that only Raynor and Tychus really countered him, but Khara, Greymane, ZJ and probably more I'm forgetting all fuck his shit up
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>>165256434
>Gui Montag from the Enslaves 'bonus campaign'
>implying this is canon
>implying blizzard can use this name considering Guy Montag is the protag of Fahrenheit 451

>Gui Montag
>not Jack motherfucking Frost from Insurrection

C A N O N
A
N
O
N
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>>165334798
The firebat is going to be a sassy ethnic lady named Lt. Flambée or Roast or something similar anyway.
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>>165334862
Anything with any sort of burst because of his like 300 health, anything that auto-attacks fast, anything that's been released in the last like year. I can't wait until they rework him, fucking anything would be better than this.
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>>165334896
>implying Blizzard cares about ripping things off with Starcraft when the entire series is a horrifying blender of ever sci-fi series that predates it
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why are Russians so bad at video games
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>>165336028
Because they play video games on their potato-powered toasters while absolutely shitfaced with potato-powered water.
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>>165336232
potato-powered water - you have no idea how true that is.
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>>165335131
I hope his rework will make him too strong so we have a murky meta for a week or two.
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>>165335141
Having never played Starcraft I'd imagine the big ones are Warhammer and Starship Troopers, but what else is in there?
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>>165337345
Why do people keep posting on wrong generals?
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>>165330797
>Kar-cucks
>assassin
He'll be a specialist/support if anything
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>>165337908
Because their tabs are right next to each other.
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>>165330797

>specialist/assassin

What would warrant this multiplies distinction? Plenty of heroes exist right now that blur the line, specialist won't get multiclassed ever. Unlike support and warrior, specialist doesn't really have a set definition even by Blizzard's own admition. It's just "this hero is really different!". How can you multiclass that?
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>almost have 100,000 gold
>can get Nexus Charger
I really don't want to spend my gold for some reason.
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how long until zuljin drop to 10000?
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>>165339920
Next week
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>>165339875
they just released it to burn gold from people like you.
he will most likely never ever return and if he did it will be in like 2-3 years.
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having played exactly 100 Ranked games this season, I can attest that forced 50 is real. the last 4 matches have been me and 4 complete mongs, with no chance to carry.
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What the hell happened to Zagara?

I remember when she was considered the best specialist and a damn good ranged assassin. And I remember everyone freaking about how her "rework" made her even MORE op.

And yet she's on Grubbys "unviable" list? What?
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>>165340181
>Grubby
Zagara is an amazing splitpusher now, she just doesn't shit out that damage she used to that would make heroes explode before they even got to touch her
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>>165340181
>Grubby
lol
>Tier-list
LOL

/hotsg/ never fails.
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>>165330797
>>165339782
>specialist/assasin
Sylvanas
Ragnaros
pre-nerfs Murky
Hammer

They should've just named Varian a specialist, Right now, counting him both for warrior and assassin just makes it so that QM matchmaking forces you to solo-tank Varian every single game.

If they'll release more multiclass then I guess the role would have a reason to exist, but then people would either get sick of the gimmick or/and demand more and more existing heroes to have their categories changed. So unless they remake Tyrande to assassin/support, it's a Lose-Lose situation.
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I don't know how to not be useless as Zul'jin i dont get it, is there some trick to him that i just cant see or is he just not that great
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>>165340510
He's mediocre. Realise this.

Guillotine is horrible.

He's quite reliant on decent team-mates and/or shit enemies.
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>>165340574
Fuck. This sucks. I was really really looking forward to our first Troll hero, and seeing him be great.
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>>165340510
In qm you might want to go for axes since it's less risky, but only pick him in hero league if you can go for his aa build, since you can shit out damage like a madman if you can farm his attack damage quest properly.
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>>165340509
they said they weren't touching old heroes' classes. pretty fucking dumb imo
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>>165340361
>>165340440
while you two are not wrong, zagara is indeed a shit pick right now outside of bronze
there's too many things that can reveal and delete your creep easily and without that she's pretty much useless. Her damage is easily countered with some mobility and there's plenty of mobile heroes in meta right now.
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>usually do bad as medivh
>you know what im just gonna sheld myself the whole game instead
>actually start winning

at last i truly see
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any pro tips on how not to be a completly useless piece of shit as medivh?
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>>165342435
Keep shielding yourself, apparently.
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>>165342072
If your team is shit, stop playing him like a support. Youre a specialist for a reason. Start blasting niggas down with you leet skillshots.
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>>165340624
That anon is just shit. He's the second best carry after Valla. They're both super unforgiving but super rewarding. Valla's pick rate went through the roof after she got nerfed, just because people realized she's unstoppable with a decent team and still fine on her own. Zul is the same way. Just make sure you go tazdingo.
>t. Resident grandmaster
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Taz'dingo needs to make you Stun immune or Blind immune, not countered by fucking both in addition to also being able to be kited.

Guillotine needs the throw animation to be faster, higher base damage or something.

Level 1 Q talent pass through all targets should be baseline.

Double swirl 16 talent should probably be baseline too, then change the talent to a flat ability power increase on all abilities, but increase the CD of W by 4 seconds.

Movement speed from Q talent at 13 should be added to the E talent, and have the Q talent be a huge slow on the first enemy hit. This would give the E talent better synergy for a Taz'dingo or W build, so you can actually escape some shit, and for the W build it would synergize with the poker playstyle, and the change to the Q would be both offensive and defensive which would make sense for a Q build considering the short range on it already.


Fuck I loe Zul'jin, fucking figures he'd be so incredibly easy to deal with. Gazlowe has been my absolute favorite hero since Alpha. Jesus do I have shit taste or what.
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>>165342967
>that guy is shit
>no reason why other than disagreement
>thinks rank means much
Typical.
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>>165343056
>Rank doesn't matter
>I'm just plat cuz of forced 50

I said you're shit because you're clueless how the game functions. You probably think nazeebo is an acceptable pick.
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>>165343245
>you
Yes, anon. Everybody who doesn't cohere to you is a samefag. Memedingo is a decent hero at best. He's a bit situational and hit/miss. Also his skillshot heroic is actually bad. Ad hominem and say baseless shit all you want.
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>towers of doom
>pick morales
>enemy team picks ETC
>teammate tells me to take cleanse
Nah, I'm gonna take fucking MULE over cleanse on this map.
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>>165343493
you can't really blame him for telling you, especially since you picked morales which is a huge red flag desu
I had a fucking auriel that didn't take the blind at lvl 13 against illidan+abathur+artanis comp, and of course she was the one complaining all match
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>>165343450
He's actually very good if you can position, and I don't want
>>165340624
To give up on a fun hero.
I'm not making shit up, I legit consider him the second best ranged assassin in the game after Valla. Falstad as a distant third is what I'm using as filler, but most mages are in a bad spot, and Raynor struggles after his bug fix nerf.
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>>165343676
>Auriel that doesn't take the 2 second Cooldown at 7
I don't understand how this is possible. It literally halves the Cooldown on your heal. It's not like energy is hard to fill for literally any assassin.
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>>165343676
Medic is the most fun I have as a support.
>tanky as fuck
>throw out safeguards all day
>can actually do something about the cloaked nova
>appropriately land e's for disruption or guarantee a kill
>entire enemy team runs for the hills when you hit r
>clutch medevac plays
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>>165343682
What are you referring to? Full AA build, Q build, W build? Because of all the shit I've tried, W poke build is generally safe and helpful with the 16 slow talent, and Q build feels like it has potential, but I can't help but feel useless when auto-attacking something without the mark.

Furthermore, people keep telling me to NOT use his trait, and I don't want to believe that's not bullshit, so I've been ignoring them and using it only in fights or on mercs.
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>>165344037
>without the mark
thats why you take the talent that extends and reduces the cd on mark and become tychus 2.0
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>>165344037
AA is his only good build, his ability talents are fairly ineffective.
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/zuljin#oUGR
Trait should be on whenever your health doesn't matter. So, if you're sitting next to brightwing, you've got a tass shield on you, you've got ult up, so on. Most of the time you can keep it off. Rule of thumb, off for skirmishes, on for teamfights.
The secret is getting your lvl 1 talent stacked asap. 20% range is massive.
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>mfw nobody in mage wars knows about superstition
>mfw they try to gank me with their sick high damage combos only to eat shit and die because they barely scratched my health
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>>165344037
>healer keeps me at full health
>can't do damage until enemy team jumps on me all at once

The only time you shouldn't be using his trait is when the enemy team has a nova/zera or some other roaming ganker.
Even then that's fixed with map awareness.
You still want to keep yourself around 75% health.
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>>165344330
based Nazeebro
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>Zul'jin is bad
how wood can you get
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>>165345224
>Zul'jin is situational and very position dependent
Can you even read?

He's like Li-ming but no mobility and much less aoe
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>tfw you get a HL comp in QM
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>>165345685
>position dependant
What does that even mean. Everybody is position dependant, that's no argument.
>he's like Li-Ming
He's really not.

He's a bigger carry than Valla but he needs more support from his team. If anythimg you should compare him to her.
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>>165345864
>ZJ is a carry
when the enemy team is completely stunned for 9 seconds
>>
Anyone got an account that can do HL that I can buy/borrow?
Free carry for you, I just wanna wreck some scrubs.
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>>165346167
When you aren't shit
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>>165346360
Please tell me why you would ever pick ZJ over Valla or Lunara from a competitive point of view.
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>>165346360
>when the enemy team doesn't just walk away or CC you

FTFY. Not even that other anon, but Zul'jin is pretty pathetic. He can't accomplish anything on his own, and unlike other autoattack heroes, neither of his ultimates offer anything to a teamfight.
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>>165346845
>picking lunara
that's still a hero?
valla is a given, but you can't always get her.
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>>165346845
because I'm bronze and Taz'dingo baiting is a viable tactic
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Anyone suggesting cydea is retarded, that character is so fucking stupid. One of the worst things about d3.

Those who suggest mephisto are based. What non-oc skills would he have? I mean there is the electric/cold nuke orb, spirits occasionally appearing and clawing the player, poison cloud, lightning bolt, and others I'm forgetting.

Could he be a (proper) summoner hero? There are tons of demons on act 3 and the durance of hate alone to choose from.
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>>165346845
You can't compare Lunara with those two.

You pick Zul'jin whenever you have the team to do so. With support Zul'jin outperforms Valla.
Tass or Medivh and a support with an ult that fits you.
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>>165347275
how can you not compare them to lunara?
she is an AA based hero who excels at peeling.
if you need AA to melt the frontline you pick Tychus.
I still dont see why you would ever pick ZJ unless you get outpicked and outbanned.
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>finaly sobering up after two weeks of heavy christmas spirit celebration
>no one to play with
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>>165348420

I'll play with you, anon.
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>>165348420

>come to community board for game you play
>complain about not having people to play with

Um
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Zuljin net needs like a 20 second cooldown.

Who the fuck thought 60 seconds for a skillshot 2 second root was okay
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>kung fu hustle with pursuit, cheap double q
I just run in circles and spam abilities like a madman
Why did no one tell me lili was so damn fun?
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>>165349474

She's fun but not really good.

Block on Trait is crazy strong against AA comps, being build decent against them as well. Serpent build kind of falling off in impact because of how much Utsav been nerfed, but can be used as like a targeted Burning Rage type ability that heals very slightly.

She has a place, maybe she will see more play since AA assassins are so popular.
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>>165349838

Auto correct is cancer please end my life
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Has there ever been an explanation for Nazeebo's consistently high win rate over the last year?
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>>165350107
he's a strong but not OP hero that never gets overbuffed or nerfed into oblivion and has continuously maintained fun and viable talent builds through multiple updates and reworks
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>>165350107
He has the highest health for a mage and his skillshots depend on the enemies walking into them.
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>>165349963
>using autocorrect
just turn it off and learn to spell like a real person
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>>165347097
>Proper summoner
But that's Zagara.
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>>165349113
It totally is, I mean, Bone spear only deals like 600 damage and has a 10 second cooldown with no mana cost and pierce, complete shit compared to a 2 second root.
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How do I build Auriel?
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>>165350702

600 damage is half health to a minion wave too, makes scythe+spear a combo to instantly kill a wave on cooldown. There's just no reasoning for why it should be so high if a CD.
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>>165348538
I don't play with sluts.
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>>165350773

Carefully, lol
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>>165348538

Aww, I'll play with you. Are you cute? I love cute boys. ;)
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>>165315980
You should always be going W Build if you have root synergy or if you're playing against Hammer or a squishy that you can immediately delete with her ult.
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>>165350773
pretty diverse

she is THE hero to build according to your and the enemy team comps.

the only talents that you ALWAYS wanna take are crystal at 10 and shield at 20
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>>165348420
france needs to be purged
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>it's another episode of abathur picks monstority ulti
Why are there so many retards picking that shit ulti?
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>>165352412
Possibly don't know how to play the assassins on the team, sick of picking evolution every game, really want that soak/pushing power.
Not to mention a fully stacked Monstrosity is pretty fucking strong, can solo most heroes even without hat, especially when next to a minion wave for that extra healing.
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don't forget to collect those regen orbs
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>>165353756
>not posting map
>not posting time
>not posting teams
>not posting rank/qp
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>>165353756
is this real life
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>>165353756

>try mode

Cool
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>>165353756
>384 orbs

>>165353980
>>165354209
It's clearly training mode or VS AI where all he did was collect the globes
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>>165353980
382 orbs means he's in try mode.
Minions spawn at 1 wave/30s, so at best he gets 30 orbs/5 minutes if he never misses one + low CD camps I guess and the occasional objectove orb.
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>>165353980
>actually thinking this is anywhere but in try mode

>>165354393
ACTUALLY you can speed up regen orb generation dramatically by just toggling minions on and off and camping at their spawn point while spamming spin to win
i was using merc camps until they eventually ran out and by that point i had enough orbs to feasibly stand around there and tank it out
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In development video fucking WHERE???
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>>165347097
Mephisto is the lord of hatred and is known to have corrupted the zakarum order and sent Lazarus to Leoric.

He would be pretty much a specialist or an assassin


His trait could be to spawn a spirit that hit other heroes randomly on the map (a talent would show them on the map for X seconds)
Another talent would be to choose the enemy hero that will be haunted

His kit could be something like

>Q : skull missile, throw an orb that deal a lot of damages
>W : charged bolt, send 3 lighting bolt (wave clear + multi target on a tf)
>E : frost nova, same range of the ragnaros wave blast slow enemies for x seconds

>R1 : poison nova around you for 5 seconds
>R2 : blizzard, constant blizzard that slow enemies in the area and deal some damages


Eventually if you want to make something regarding his lore, you can maybe corrupt an enemy for some seconds, While corrupted he deal damages to his allies instead of enemies.
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i love this meme
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>>165355337
as soon as i reach 1000 stacks
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>>165261221
Fuck Sylvanas.
Marry Sylvanas.
Kill myself to be raised by Sylvanas.
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>>165355592
I'm pretty sure all quests cap at 500
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>>165268181
Fucking why haven't they added Kelthuzad already? They've been teasing him since like, 2011 or some shit.
Worst of it all is that they've been adding LITERALLY WHO's from warcraft since then like Samuro.
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>promotion match
>last guy highlights Zul'jin even though we already have two AA assassins
>me and one or two others suggest a bruiser since that's all we were lacking
>he says "oh, I thought we were all picking single target assassins?"
>he picks Artanis and says "I don't like you guys so I'm just going to play by myself all game"
>worried laughter
>game starts and he actually stays as far from the team as possible
>we ask him to join us since we're losing this 4v5 game
>"we already lost at the pick phase because we took two adc's"
>adc's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>adc's
>the entire rest of the game he insists that we're losing, not because he is contributing nothing, but because we have two AA assassins rather than 1 AA and 1 mage
>lose promotion match

I knew exactly how the rest of the game was going to go when he said "adc's"
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>>165355991
>he died once
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>>165355991
you would be wrong
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>>165356250
what the fuck is adcs?
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>>165356315
attack damage carry , league of legends term for auto attacker
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>>165356260
I was fucking around with Taz'dingo and destroying the Keep
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>>165312869
>>165333843
>>165333939
Jojobronys get out
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https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/819604892666892289
Get rekt all you still in denial idiots.
Valeera confirmed next
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>>165356921
it was confirmed days ago, no one was in denial anymore idiot
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>>165356774
Never heard that term before, but I guess it makes sense, they seem to be following a similar trend as the bronies did.
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>>165356921
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>165357626
edgy
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>>165356921
Nice hero for the 20th anniversary of Diablo.
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>all the people complaining about yet another Warcraft character
>mfw I only care about the Warcraft characters
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>Patch hits
>It's a minor fix
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Why are the skins in this game so fucking expensive? Do people actually buy them?

There are some that look cool that I would pay maybe $5 for at the absolute most, but they're twice that price.
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>celebrating 20 years of Diablo
>with another cookie cutter assassin nobody asked for

can they at least stop lying about the "we make heroes with interesting kits, not franchise based" bit? cuz the last 3 releases had the most boring and unimaginative kits in a long time
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>>165358582

Yes and because they can. Literally no part of this game give them revenue besides skins and mounts, so until he have 150 heroes and 300 mounts they will likely stay that way.
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>>165358913

Says you. Ragnaros and Varian are pretty fucking swell. Zuljin is a little boring but he's not easy to play like the last two. Can't hit a home run every time.
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>>165359058
>not easy to play like the last two
He's exceedingly easy.
He just relies more on your teammates than most heroes.
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Is the next hero gonna have stealth? pls no
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>>165359346

Almost assured. Valeera is subtlety spec in canon. Be ready for ambush, shadow dance, shadow step, killing spree, cheap shot, and pure sweet cancer.
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>>165359058
>Varian
>skillshot, charge, free invincibility button

wow

>Ragnaros
>do damage, do damage around you, do damage

wow
creative and engaging
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>>165359480
The teaser looks very poisonous
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>>165359591

Some might even say, pretty toxic?
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>>165359591

It would be a travesty to make Valeera assassination spec and not subtlety.
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>>165359591

>most powerful and iconic assassin in game is Garona
>lol let's add a random ass literal who rogue from le card game instead :DDD

Why
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>>165360309
Who?
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i'm done
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>>165360309
who is "Garona"
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>>165360309

Anon, is time to deal with it:

FACT:

Valeera is at least 1000 times more famous than Garona, the shitty slut orc from that flop of a movie; borderline "who?"
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>>165360309
how about just not adding rogues because they're all fags minus VanCleef
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>>165360309
>most powerful and iconic assassin in game is Garona
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>>165360681
>>165360419

Don't meme me you fucks
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>>165361620
I don't recognize this, is she from the WoW spinoff comics?
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I'm creaming my pants just thinking about valeera's thighs being in this game
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Valeera is thicc, THICC. T H I C C !!!!!1111oneoneone

Literally the only worthwhile hero since Tracer.
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> I WANDER ALONE

gonna blog here because i wanted to share this for a while, maybe someone can relate. ever since rexxar was released his quote "i wander alone" sounded really wrong to me because well he's with his bear all the time. and this quote got stuck in my mind, i repeat it irl many times a week, because im such a lonely antisocial guy, i even jog and exercise in a forest during the evening to avoid human contact
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>>165361710

Baiting me so hard right now gonna pre
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>>165362189
>posting a vanilla beta pic

Is not like the removed her from the game! Oh wait they did.
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>>165362000
>!!!!!1111oneoneone
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>>165362246
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>>165362443
That's not a vanilla beta pic.
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>>165362149
I actually can relate, I've been talking with the blademaster accent for about 12 years now, when I do my katana exercises I always repeat his quotes to focus on improving my technique
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>>165362560
Do you also repeat them when you shave?
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>>165362443

Neither is this
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>>165362690
I don't shave and i dyed my beard white so I can resemble my role model even more
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>garona is popular and relevant guise!

She was 20 years ago back in wc1, she is a literal who now.
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>>165363061

>elf fucker samefag thinks their fan character Mary sue from Hearthstone is relevant

Laffing rn
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>>165362787
The top of your head, ya goof. You are shaving your head right?
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>>165361620
>>165362189
>>165362443
>>165362783
alright faggot listen here, valeera is 100 times more popular than garona and we already have 4 orcs and a half in the nexus so stop being a bitch
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>>165363247
She is more relevant than literal who from a failed movie :)
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>>165363247
Listen here you mong, I don't make the rules, China does. HS is HUGE in China and THEY like Valeera, so Valeera gets added. That's just the way the market works kiddo. Don't like it? Don't play.
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>another waifubait epic gurl assassin character with a generic mobashit kit made to appeal to anime-loving degenerates

And here I thought we might get a cool new hero.
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>>165363328
of course, I also wear an anal bead necklace all the time
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Are you guys literally retarded? The green claws are Terrok claws.
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>Another assassin.
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>>165363530

>claws
>s

Where you see that m8
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>>165363530
ahahah epic!
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>>165363448
>another high-octane burst assassin

Mixed feels, desu.

>>165363530
ebin
>>
>Zul’jin: Taz’dingo will now be placed on a reduced cooldown, rather than full cooldown, if it is cast at the exact same moment that he takes fatal damage.
why wouldn't they just get rid of the cast time?
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Predict Valeera launch skin

Go
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>>165364009
idk what's "iconic"

probably bloodfang or something
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>>165363708
>retard don't know the terrok meme

kek
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>>165364009
Anal slut valeera
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>>165364009

something stupid and meme-y that also makes her wear less clothes so retards buy it up instantly
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>>165364009
bdsm valeera
>>165364094
in her dafault look she wears the bloodfang armor
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>>165364094
actually, eh, gul'dan ended up getting one of the worst warlock tier sets, even if it didn't look the worst after being ported over

better than in wow anyways

>>165364201
oh does she, i could've sworn it was just the shoulders

sec lemme find her cardstone images
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>>165364009
Night Elf Spirit of Vengeance.
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>>165364321
>oh does she, i could've sworn it was just the shoulders

You're right, in game she wear bloodfang shoulders and the rest is modified cloth armor from the sunwell raid.
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>>165364321
even if it's just the shoulders if they want to make her wear the complete set they can do it with master skin
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diablofags BTFO
starcraftfags BTFO
Maievfags BTFO
Memezadfags BTFO
Overmemefags BTFO
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>>165364321
>gul'dan ended up getting one of the worst warlock tier sets, even if it didn't look the worst after being ported over
the balespider skin is based on some wow set?
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>>165364413
Yeah, and mage t5 helmet. Guess they aren't going after her WoW self.

>>165364448
Maybe. Would be surprised if they pulled another ming and made the base/master better than her $ skin.

especially considering valeera is likely to be the most popular hero since tracer, ming and kael
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>>165364009

Valeera Van Cleef.
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>>165213940

FRIENDLY REMINDER:

Valeera will soon join the Nexus, there are some FACTS about her:

- she is a WOMAN.
- she is an elf.
- she comes because of HEARTHSTONE (RNG XD.)
- she is taking the rogue slot, THERE WON'T BE ANOTHER ROGUE IN YEARS.
- She came (yeshh) before Muhiev (never EVER.) Muhrona and Muhwhosad.
- she is fun and cute.

- YOU'll deal with all of this.

So yeah. In case your boipussy cannot deal with all these FACTS, there is an exercise that can help you. 3D print a model of your super epik Van Queef, and slowly, but steadily, insert him in your boipuccy. Every time you feel like not dealing with it, go 1cm further, sooner or later, daddy Queef will make you cum like the little bitch you are, and finally, you'll deal with it. I promise
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>>165364828
>Yeah, and mage t5 helmet. Guess they aren't going after her WoW self.
Probably not, the blizz team is lazy as fuck but the hots team is really good, they are going to givie her the proper comic armor.

>>165364915
Instabuy tbqh
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>>165364820
Mhm. Firelands.

>normal
http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=681/balespiders-burning-vestments#comments

>heroic
http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=682/balespiders-burning-vestments-recolor

Helmet is a bit weird. Chest works as a bit of a turtleneck, which can be nice. I think they did a better job on the one Gul'dan got, though.

>>165365024
Yeah, probably. A lot of the WoW stuff is pretty dull (Zuljin, for instance)
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>>165363984
That has a cast time? The fuck? How does a self buff have a cast time? Not even Tryndamere or Abaddon have cast times on their ults.
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>>165365130
it's probably really small but if you can die even after you pressed the key I think there has to be a cast time
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>>165365130
>>165365312

Perhaps a small delay, similar to Xul's Skeletal Mages?

>go to place mages
>get polymorphed
>no mages
>ult on 10 sec CD
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>>165365004
What is it with people saying she is from hearthstone and saying she should have hearthstone related abilities? Thrall, Gul'dan and Malfurion didnt have to deal with this bullshit
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>>165365765
Thrall, Gul'dan, and Malfurion actually had significant presence in the games. Valeera is just from some comic as far as I can remember.
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>>165365130
>>165365312
>>165365559
it needs to hit on the same frame on which you apply taz'dingo to yourself
i'll try and record it
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>already memed 2 heroes into the game
The meme train has no brakes.
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>>165214192

Toss Chromie and Nova

Add Hamuul Runetotem and Overlord Saurfang
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>>165366241
SUPERMAN WHEN?
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>>165348420
>>
>Sonya q's in and whirlwinds and just dies every time.

What a worthless hero.
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>>165363984
>>165366119
about 8 seconds in
it displays the 90 second cooldown for a split second before kicking it down to 10 seconds
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>>165367772
This really shouldnt even be a problem. A defensive buff shouldnt have any sort of delay or cast time, that defeats the point of the ability.
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>>165366241
Hogger and Jenkins when?
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>>165367694
>spear in
>get stunned
>Spam Whirlywind
>accidentally cancel it

frig
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>>165367694
>expecting anything out of Bad!Artanis
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>>165214192
I want a healer from Overwatch like Lucio . Also maybe something like Junkrat. They could be interesting design wise.
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>>165369547
Lucio is Brightwing
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>>165369547

If Lucio is added to this game he will be overpowered mist have support that's required at all levels of play just like Overwatch. Ana or Symettra are far more likely.

Mc Cree is next
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>>165369547
>black brightwing in skates
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>still no Night Elf Mohawk hero
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>>165369547

>wanting a literally BR on the game

Anon...
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>>165370045
T, there's no such class
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>>165370045
>all heroes get a night elf mohawk
>all minions get a night elf mohawk
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>>165370234
>All narrators are replaced by Mr T
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>>165370520
>have a different announcer for almost every one of our DOZEN MAPS
>even league will probably get announcer packs before us

ahhh i just want to hear chen or tahm kench narrate the flow of battle
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>>165370779
Arent the only things the narrator says in LoL "Welcome to Summoner's Rift!" and then champ kills?
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>>165371050
Eh, sort of.

>First Blood
>Executed
>Your turret has been destroyed
>The enemy's inhibitor is respawning soon
>Enemy Quadrakill

I'd definitely prefer to listen to Kindred or Tahm narrate it, though.

>also tfw no personal killstreaks in hots
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>plebbit valeera post 92% upvotes
fucking diabloshits are literally on suicide watch
>>
Who should I get?
Illidan?
Artanis?
Zagara?
All 3?
Uninstall button?
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>>165372960
>Illidan?
If you like his playstyle.
>Artanis?
Yes, he's quite good right now.
>Zagara?
Absolutely not.
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>>165369807
Kinda yeah, but lucio is permanent increased regen for everybody. Really low amounts. Brightwing is a single healing for a small bursts every few seconds. But yeah I can see the problem but having a second AOE healer could be good.
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>>165372960
>Uninstall button
This
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>>165372960
>>165374873
>Uninstall

This, at least until Valeera is out.

>Ultimate: Gadgetzan Auctioneer.
>For the next 10 seconds, Whenever you use an ability, refresh the cooldown of a basic ability at random.

pls deer jebus don't let this be in her kit tho or anythin like it
>>
FFS I know QM is no tank/no healer killfest shithole but I swear it's not so bad unless I play Zul'jin. Then it's always 9000 Zeratuls on the opposing team and literally no frontliner to farm You Want Axe on.
How the fuck do people get this quest done? I can't for life of me finish it earlier than lvl 16-18 if ever; mostly I end a match with 2/3 done. I'm getting kited so much on Zul'jin it's ridiculous. I wreck with pretty much any other AA based assassin but I cannot fucking get a decent hold on da troll...
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>>165368460
>You don't cancel it. It still does nothing because it's a worthless ability.
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>>165375164
That's too fun for hots.
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>>165373876
Brightwing heals everyone around her passively.
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>>165363341
plus - correct me if I'm mistaken - the only blood elf currently in the game is KT right?
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>>165375557
They are represented by 3 skins though.
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>>165375557

Even KT is a literary who these days. Valeera is the new hotness. All the cool kids know her.
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>>165375557
Yeah, that's right.

The next closest would be Tyrande and Johanna and Sylvanas with their respective skins.

>>165375346
Tru.
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>>165375313

Every time I play Zuljin in QM the enemy has Nova and Abathur and I can't do shit.
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>>165376819
What
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>when your team is actually retarded but you win anyway
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>>165376819

If the other team has two or more targets that have high HP, build for Windows and %HP damage stuff. If not, go standard regeneration and peel on Q, E, and trait.

Don't pick entombed if they have blinks or escapes, it's a dead ult if that's the case. March is not a DPS ult, it makes you unstoppable and heals you, so use it as a hard engage or a way to avoid big CC spells. If the to enemy is mostly melee consider March and the upgrade at 20 for a ton of healing and damage.
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>>165377225
>>165377567

what was it i stepped away for a second

damn it why do people delete posts on this dead board
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>>165377880

>"hurr how to build leoric"

Another brainless noob
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>>165377880
"Whadaya take on Leoric? W? W seems good."
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>>165378194
I cant get over how retarded her armor is.
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>>165378194
THICC
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>>165378194
>stealth rogue
>wears bright red porn lingerie
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What if Valeera's master skin is T6?
Could she get more perfect?
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>>165378194

How censored do you think those tits are gonna be?
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who are some characters besides Jimmy whose best skins are not their most expensive? (assume a master skin costs $9.99)
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>>165378843

Yeah if she had an actual good skin instead.
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>>165378868
>tyrande's cow tiddies

0
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>>165378898

Li Li's skins are all great
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>>165378194
Guarantee you she won't be showing that much ass.
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>>165378990
Demon hunter skin
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>Zul'jin is situational but great if the enemy team has no blinds or stuns

Okay, so he's never good, ever. Even in fucking QM the enemy team is riddled with both.
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>>165379351
Yes.
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>>165379469
Thanks Blizzard. Real happy to see the first Troll.
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>>165379897

He's about as good as any AA hero. Hes just not OP and cant stomp without a team around to help you.

That being said, he can solo lane too. Maybe youre just bad?
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>>165378194
(you)
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What is Blizzards policy on adding heroes anyway? We've gotten two pandas, a literalwho gnome and made up characters like Murky and Brightwing before even hearing a word about main characters like Grom, Kel'Thuzad, Fenix
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>>165380350
>No ounce of mobility until 13
>No E ability, it's a self heal that needs to be channeled off to the side, alone
>Easy to dodge slow
>Ultimates are very lacking and very easily dealt with/countered.
>Only real strength lies in standing there auto-attacking, nothing else is a thread at all

Yeah, he's as GOOD as any other AA hero damage-wise, but he brings absolutely nothing to the table that isn't dealt with by simply stunning -> bursting. Like, that's it. He offers nothing else, no real sort of versatility, no high reward for his high risk, as his ultimates are not a threat.
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>>165378194
Those tits look too large for Valeera. Unless my memory is wrong.
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>>165380847
Whoever the fuck they want every 3-4 weeks.

People bitch and moan about not getting what they want when this game has a stellar update schedule compared to any other game in the genre.

Chances are all of the people bitching for certain heroes will get them evebtually, but saturation of new content makes people want more and more and will never be pleased.

The cycle continues forever.
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>>165381353
Wow had no breast sliders
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>>165381357
I just want Fenix to be added so my friend will shut the fuck up about it. But I'll also have to hear his complaints when they release Leah, D.va, female Protoss, any WC character that's not Wc3 Grom
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>>165381656

Theres no winning anon.

The list has already been leaked, we know whats coming more or less. People are just impatient and want what they want. When this game has 250 heroes people will be crying for basic campfire and fucking zergling to be added as playable heroes. It will never fucking end.
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>>165381353
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>>165380847
>main characters like(...) Fenix
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>>165381826
>stupid amount of potential future heroes

sort of the one thing the game has going for it desu
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>>165382128
Explain
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Is it just me or quality of hl games dropped this season? I've reached gm solo last season but this season I am struggling in diamond. And I just can't understand whether matchmaking went to shit or my """skill"""
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>>165382845
I haven't heard anything else about HL being hit with anything but a rule that only solos may enter.
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Is Greymane actually bad? What makes him particularly worse than any other assassin?
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>>165383139
What makes him better than other assassins?
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>>165383309
What makes him an assassin?
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>>165382845
>gm last season
>currently struggling in diamond

pls be real there may be hope for the game yet
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>>165383383
What makes him a man?
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>>165383531

The power in his hands; his quest for glory.
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>>165382845
maybe a meta shift towards heroes you don't like?
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Are we getting an in-dev video tomorrow?
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>Play Li-Ming for diablo quest
>Go W build because we need aoe I guess no idea what's the best build for her
>We lose early to mid down like 2-15
>They get most of the objective
>They can't push
>W does like half of there health they have no tank to soak it
>Disintegrate doing like half their health in damage if fully charged that resets on Takedowns
>Go 17/3 carrying my team and still don't get MVP
I don't care if Li-Ming is bad that was a fun game also whats the best build for Ming anyway
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>>165385051
arcane orb is the best right now
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>>165384405

Probably
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>>165384405
sounds like it since they started teasing Valeera on twitter
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>>165383139

Hes a finisher hero that uses his squishy, no sustain body to secure kills. Thats why.
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>>165382845
You thought you made it to gm because you are skilled?
It's all about the luck of pulling 4 players who suck less than the players on the opposing team
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I can only enjoy this game for a few weeks at a time, begins to get too frustrating eventually and l of my favorites get shit on by more than half the roster

kill me
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>>165356921
when THE FUCK will they add Terokk
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>>165362246
>Is not like the removed her from the game! Oh wait they did.
meanwhile Valeera isn't even in the game
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>>165390003
When you go back to plebbit and stay there
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>>165390726
I've probably been here longer than you cucklord
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>>165390003
what would be Terokk's thing
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>>165390934
I've been here since the board was created, kid.
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>>165391603
I am the board, human
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>>165391603
>only here since January 2014
kek, fuck off newfag
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soooo when are we gonna get a hero who isn't an assassin
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>>165391351
melee warrior with wind based CC abilities that transforms into a ranged assassin on death or as a cooldown
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You don't even deserve (You)s
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Human Tyrael
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>>165392246
I'm sure they'll begrudgingly give us some frontal shield support/tank like Reinhardt before going back to assassins.

most people play and spend $ on assassins so it does make sense desu
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Tomorrow we are getting Free hero weekend
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>>165394434
Nemesis Nazeebo
Crypt Stalker Valla
Fel Lord Leoric
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>>165394434
Legendary Skin for Butcher that upgrades when he gets full Meat
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>>165214192
Hammer replaced by Edmund Duke, no change in gameplay

Murky replaced by a non-immersion-breaking murloc, no change in gameplay

I like this game's gameplay, I don't want to delete any part of it. This includes heroes. That's why I couldn't suggest real additions here. Also, there are too many characters that I want to be added to the game.
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What if Sonya's Leap refreshed on Takedowns
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>>165217351
reminder that most Blizzard female characters look almost the same
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Female Orc Sonya skin when?
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>>165395662
Male barbarian skin when?
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>>165394516
I believe Blizzard agrees with you, but I don't. It is a reversed way of seeing the problem. Most people play and spend $ on assassins BECAUSE most new characters are assassins, not the other way around. Who likes to play the same hero over and over again for two complete years? That's pretty much what I'm forced to do when I have to play support or specialist, though.

I NEED NEW SUPPORTS AND SPECIALISTS.
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>>165395396
It would still be trash because your playing Sonya.
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>>165394434
Emperor Alarak skin.
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>>165390003
Never, obviously. Especially since we'll never hear of him again in world of warcraft (since noone wants to go back to Draenor after WoD). MANY more popular characters are already waiting in the lane, dude.
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>>165378194
That's hideous, and I'm not even gay.
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>>165395662
Any female orc that's not Sgt. Doomhammer when
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>>165396315
Not saying it's what I like, just what it probably going to happen.

Nobody wants to play support, and warrior/tank to a lesser extent.

>we need more specialists

what does this even mean
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>it's another 3 hours spent playing and still waiting on the first win and again demoted from masters episode

I dont get it, I personally did not throw any of these games, so by law of averages even if I suck I should have been carried to victory at least once
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>>165396858
it means to separate things.

1. We need more weird characters like Medivh or TLV, because these are what make this game great. I agree with the fact they aren't necessary classified as specialists (eg. Cho'gall)

2. We need more characters classified as specialists. Two reasons for this.
a. Quests and quickmatch.
b. Specialists usually have a kind of gameplay that you can't find in other roles, for example pushing.
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>>165395396
what if Leap didn't have a SEVENTY second cooldown to begin with
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>>165397164
>another 3 matches decided in draft by some russian picking a meme hero

I feel ya bro
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>>165397747
You're right. The cooldown should be 120 seconds so each cast feels more impactful
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>>165397164
Anon... anon, this game has the worst playerbase, and your rank says little about you personally. You're taking a fucking right now, but sometime soon, you'll flip this game over and you'll do the fucking.
I myself am quitting for a few weeks, I can't take this shit anymore, and I'm upset Zul'jin ended up with dogshit ultimates, and no ounce of utility to his kit. Just auto-attack and hope nobody dives you, and hope nothing stuns you ever.
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>>165378194
She's incredible math
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>>165400484
>mfw I am listening to lithium flower right now
What does it have to do with Valeera though?
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>>165396130
Transsexual genderfluid half-orc apache attack helicopter when?
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>dragon shire
>hl late night so I get diamond garbo
>play based rexxar
>solo lane against artanis
>dk pops up
>stick my bear on shrine
>artanis challenges
>I push lane
>artanis still hitting misha
>this keeps up until I get front wall despite multiple tried ganks on their side
>all this time artanis was hitting misha on shrine while his shit gets pushed in and he misses all that xp
>diamond players
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>>165402087
11/10 joke
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>tfw went from +20 to -2 personal adjustment in one night
I should probably go to bed but by now I'm too far in to go without a W
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>>165404927
how to genuinely fall to silver: the post
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>>165405117
still d1
was masters
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>>165404927
9 losses now, diamond 2 boys
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>>165408068
F
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>>165408213
That's a nice captcha, mind if I save it?
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>>165409074
Sure anon, spread the love
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bump
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>>165358225
I could care less about it being yet another WC character personally.

I'm just annoyed that this is the third assassin in a row we're getting.
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>>165365765
>Thrall, Gul'dan and Malfurion didnt have to deal with this bullshit

Those three were at least fairly well known before they got added in.

Valeera was literally who tier before Hearthstone and it's literally the only thing people remember her from.
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>>165358225
I'm happy to have another WC character.

I'm just upset he's kind of shit, and underwhelming.
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>>165375474
I think he means that, while Brightwing gives everyone a burst heal every X seconds, Lucio would basically increase their health regen.
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>>165390129
She is in game since wotlk :)
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>>165394434
orc tychus
chaos marine raynor
raziel zeratul
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>>165411860
>no sixpack

why even bother lady
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>>165394434
Nazeebo troll skin
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Read if you dare.
Superman will be added to the game as a Warrior this Summer.
Name: Superman, Man of Steel
Abilities: Laser Vision, Heroic Rise, Freeze Breath, Superman Punch, Trait: Block or Smash. He has only 1 heroic and a 2 choice trait similar to Khara.
Skins: Default: "Nineties Supe's with mullet". Alt colors: Bizarro Scheme/Icon Scheme/Steel Scheme. Heroic: "Modern Supes (losses mullet-animated DC movie look): Bizarro Scheme/Icon Scheme/Man of Steel Scheme.
Launch skin: The Eradicator (hood): Alt colors: Robin Scheme/Cyborg Scheme/Superboy Scheme

It's dope
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>>165415559
fuck, I meant to spoil that image.

o well I'm drunk, enjoy
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>>165415559
I want to believe.
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>guillotine fucking hard as shit to land consistently
>upgrade makes it HARDER
>shit damage unless you are almost dead

It needs to do bonus damage based on THEIR health too, not just Zuljins so it can be a proper finisher and not just a meme ability that looks cool as shit but is actually garbage.
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>>165416897
but 50% winrate! hes balanced! no need to change him at all, forget about how shit his heroics are and how you straight up just stun him and burst him which is not hard with dive because he has nothing to protect himself with and taz'dingo doesnt work when CC'd and generally brings nothing to the team aside from auto attacks just accept it hes balanced doesnt need anything else isnt lacking at all! :)

also buy our skins!
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>>165416897
Guillotine is the reason why the W build is shit. If it was better W build would be the way to go. Taz is pretty much used to just take someone out with you.

He's got two pretty shitty ults which makes it even funnier to see threads about how to deal with Taz'Dingo. Just fucking awalk away and throw an ability out when it's over.
>>
As much as I hate that we are getting another assassin, actually kind of excited to see what they do with Rogue. Wonder if they'll get critical strikes for attacking from behind or something.
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>>165415559
>Superman Punch

Surely you can try harder than this
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>>165378554
Almost a guarantee that they'll redesign it for HOTS ala Dehaka.
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>tfw all of Chromie's skins are equally good

indecision 2017
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Lol

This one
>>165416873
is more accurate than this one
>>165415559
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I always wondered why Kharazim's lightning fast punching ult was always so lackluster. Every teamfight with a Kharazim, he'd do a bunch of punches and do nothing, and then dies. It does 7% HP a punch which sounds nice but doesn't focus a person down unless they're the only one in it.

I don't get why anyone would bother with it over the teammate saving one then in that case.
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>>165424785
It's a damaging Ice Block, you mong.
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I just played a QM with a Ragnaros who clearly gave up in the first five minutes after two of the people on our team died a couple times. When I asked him why he wasn't playing seriously, he said it was because he could already tell that the forced 50 had just given him a losing match.

Do people seriously believe that?
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>>165425496
Still doesn't sound like it's worth an ult slot when burst is what matters the most in this game.
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>>165425982
I used to, until I found out what the matchmaking system did, then I realized I was wrong and retarded, because the reality made more sense and would explain things more clearly than just believing it sets you up to fail. Even if it technically might do just that, it isn't intended.
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Can I go auto attack Valla?
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help i cant stop playing nova
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What's the best way to build Chen? Kick build, keg build, fire build, or some combination of the three?
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F E N I X W H E N
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>>165425982
>lose first objective
>lose all hope

Definitely a thing, regardless of the effectiveness of that first objective.

Some people get a tad emotionally invested in individual games.
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>>165425982

what rating was he? because i sometimes play QM for the first win of the day, and if my team is dogshit i will try my hardest to lose so i can get into another game.
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>when you're playing diablo and you make ally chromie miss all her Qs and Ws
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>>165427298
you might also like playing tracer or liming
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>>165429046
>When you're playing Diablo and you plow Chromie's tight gnome sand cave
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>>165429407
>enemy diablo+ chromie
>diablo always charges enemies in random unpredictable directions
>chromie has already precasted both spells in the exact landing spot
there's no way it wasn't hacks
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Next hero after Valeera supposedly a support, not from WC.

So, Stukov or Lucio? Yeah I know Lucio is Brightwing, Zenyatta then. But you know they'll somehow put the meme nigga in.
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>>165430805
In a game where they throw in better versions of existing heroes as "new" heroes all the fucking time, I wouldn't put Lucio out of the question. I could see Lucio for sure, as they'll likely make the next OW rep a male, you're right about that.

Probably Zenyatta then, I'd ASSUME they'd hold off a bit longer on having another AoE healer.
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>>165430805
>new HoTS hero
>not from Warcraft

I don't believe you.
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>>165430805
>new hots hero
>support
>not warcraft
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>>165427007

Yes but keep in mind her vulnerability, her late game strat, and her niche maps.
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>>165432453

I cannot into Starcraft but please tell me she isn't going to be another shielder.
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>>165431116

Zenyatta is so much damn fun even if he's not highly meta. If his playstyle remains intact he would be so sweet.

Constant heals and vulnerability (within a certain range for hots). High damage and charged up skill shots. A heroic that heals and makes him invulnerable.

Weakness is he doesn't CC, have much HP, or have inbuilt escape. Doesn't heal himself. Probably would be skillshot dependent. Skillshot would have like 1s CD but need to be charged up for like 5 seconds to reach full strength.
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>>165432538
Blizz plans to nerf healing across the board, so shielders like Tass and Medivh will become "viable". Part of it's probs gonna be adding new shielders.
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>>165432927
Yeah, I always thought Zenyatta would fit HotS the best out of all Overwatch supports.
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>>165432453
>see tits and vagoo
>not removed
Based mods, right? I'd keep it up.
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>>165432453
What's the source? Reverse image searching on a few different websites gives nothing.
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>>165433001
I think I suggested it before, but, I would love if they just split up Support into two groups

>Supports
Deal with sustained damage the best via shields, and offer other utility whether it's vision or speed boosts, and deal moderate-ish damage.

>Healers
Deal with burst damage the best via heals, deal low damage, but are capable of bringing hard CC for protecting others.

Then split Warriors into Guardians and Bruisers and we're fucking golden.
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>>165433786
>shields deal with sustained dmg
>heals deal with burst dmg

Isn't it the other way around?

Anyway, they won't make TWO non-bigdick classes, especially with how current supports have half the representation than any other class, that'd look ridiculous.

I like what they are/plan on doing;
-nerf healing amount on the most offensively healslut characters, so they're not the only viable choice
-in exchange give them more utility/dmg/tankiness so they're more fun to play
-release more supports now that design isn't limited by the fact that 80% of characters power goes to point-n-click healing
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>>165434064
Healers are fine as is.
Uther and Medic are tanky as shit sometimes but have no mobility.
Auriel and Tyrande have no mobility (unless specced) but make up for it with tons of utility.
Brightwing and Rehgar are mobile as fuck but squishy and are weak to burst.
Khara and Lili are diverse as hell but really need an appropriate matchup,
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>>165435072
>Uther and Medic are tanky as shit
Support are hardly anything more than heal sluts. It's of no surprise (plus the tiny pool and lack of changes/additions) that no one likes playing them.
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>>165394434
i want this so badly
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>>165435072
Learn to read.
Supports are fine for the current balance, but the problem is in the fact how the entire game is balanced around the fact that healing in HotS is ridiculously more powerful than in any other Moba and any new or reworked support has his design limited by the fact that he has to be able to compete with top solo healers. That's why Blizz is rebalancing the entire game now. More and more melee characters will get baseline armor to compensate for less heal from their supports, while backline characters will be more squish, which is intented.
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Should I always go full utility on Tyrande?
It just seems so powerful and useful that I can't tell why you'd want to spec as anything else.
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>going to pick guldan
>our last pick tell us he can only play assassin
>I see our second pick going for diablo
>two guys pre picked tass & tracer
>I go with khara
>we let our last pick go with assassin as he wanted
>he pick nova and tell us "I'm not troll"

>khara and diablo forced to lane alone
>tass is with tracer, he can't roam for globes
>I can't go to diablo to give him some heal else we loose all our towers
>nova can't land a skillshot

>nova don't understand why his pick was wrong

>we reach lvl 5, tracer start to rant about tassadar build
>look at his talents
>lvl 4 : ward
>tracer can't heal on AA


I don't get this game. Why am I matched with people like this ?
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>>165435925
Of course. Owl/utility is always the best. However do be warned there's a samefag on here that spams DPS Tyrande shit. It is objectively shit.
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>>165436076
FORCED FIFTY
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>>165435925
Depends on what you mean by utility.
I typically grab the owl talents at 4 and 16 even without rewind or cooldown, sprint if they have a lot of dive or shrink ray if they have one player who's noticeably doing work, almost always shadowstalk because that 30% teamwide movement is insane.
I'm a fan of ranger's mark because it's amazing during laning and lets you get it off 2-3 times in a single teamfight.
Increased range for her e is typically more useful to me than momentum because I already have a ton of mana issues with her and I only take mule on large maps when against something like an abathur.
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>>165436341
What I usually take is
Ranger's mark
Protective shield (is the ward a better choice? i can't tell)
Either lunar blaze or lunar momentum
Shadowstalk, always.
Shrink ray (I love shutting down damage dealers with this)
Trueshot aura
And then either the AoE shield or the enhanced ultimate

I'm still relatively new and haven't even so much as touched a single game of ranked yet (oh god quick match is horror), but this seems to be working out alright so far.

I'll take any and all advice I can get.
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>>165436712
She has a super diverse tree, but it a little hard to git gud when you're soloqueing as a utility support.
I try not to prioritize healing as Tyrande because if I wanted to heal I'd pick a different hero, so I almost never take q talents.
The healing provided by her ult and a handful of q's during a teamfight is usually enough, because during that time you should have secured several kills.
Which is why I typically forgo shield and ward at 4 for Pierce. Owl deals a decent amount of damage, and this let's it deal quite a bit more when you take the talent at 16.

Like most heroes her 16 choices are a real toss up, they tend to pack all the best abilities into this level.
Trueshot aura is good if you have two auto attackers (fine if either dps+dps or dps+offtank/bruiser) and if your tank is someone who deals good aa damage, like Muradin or Diablo rather than ETC or Jo. But keep in mind if your team need to be grouped for this to get full effect, if you find your team constantly splitting and chasing or diving outside of your range than maybe go for another.
Mark of mending is a healing talent that also depends on your team clicking the guy you marked, so I almost never take it. Definitely pass it up if you didn't take the cooldown.
If you took Lunar Blaze and you notice that you're landing your e constantly then Shooting Star is a fine talent, especially if you have mana issues.
Ranger is my go-to talent because it makes it almost impossible to miss your owl at medium distances and it deals a good amount of damage. With talents like Pierce and lunar momentum it becomes all the deadlier.
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>>165437540
>Muradin
>Jo
>Good AA damage
lamo
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>>165437596
Jo was listed with ETC so I figured you'd realize that meant she doesn't do damage.
Muradin has a fair amount of aa damage considering how up-in-your-face he gets, ES-FUCKING-PECIALLY when you take clap talents and give em the axe, then he hits like a truck.
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>>165432453

Would /hotsg/ waifu a nice protoss girl?
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>>165432453
Why's she got nips? Don't protoss not have mouths?
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>>165437596
>skullcracker for 25% higher attack speed
>give axe for 60% more damage almost always because he has two skills with long durations that can trigger this + any other cc of youe team
400 dps AAs aren't the craziest there is out there, but certainly very fucking strong for a warrior with a gazillion health to boot.
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>>165439848
>>165439848
>>165439848
penis
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>>165433216
rule 34 friend
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>>165305405
They'd nerf it to the ground
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