/tfg/ - Titanfall General

What DPI does /tfg/ use?

I run 800 DPI and 1.455479 sens

>>165136010
Same can be said to you. I pointed at the current game mechanics, map layout and damage values of hitscan weapons.

You just keep spouting "slow=shit" like some sort of mantra that comes true the more often you say it.

You don't even have arguments and want to perpetuate this general's meme. It's cool, I like going fast too but it's just not the best way to win.

But I already noticed your stupidity so I will stop trying to convince you. (Yeah you can add another point to your "won Internet fights" list now, you earned it).

Just think about me when you run into the next pilot sentry.

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Obligitary.

Speed is life. Thanks Papa Viper.

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>>165136251
Slow generally does mean bad though
Whilst you are able to pick off average speed style players, the top end will 9 times out of 10 be too much for the shitter, evidence being the competition in which the tfg team took out first place.
of course if you just want to play casually then sure playing like a cod babby is enough to win games but to actually get to the higher levels of play you need to start using the movement system to its full potential

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>>165136362

Too fast to post the actual. Fuck.

>>165136251
How weird, that something subjective is based on personal experiences and has a lack of factual arguments to be made about it!
Here's a fact for you then, at least: Not once in this game's time have I found myself threatened or even remotely impressed by a slow player. At worst, they're an annoyance I have to maneuver slightly more carefully around. Meanwhile, fast players are always challenging and always fun to play against. Almost as if there's some kind of difference in skill and effectiveness between the two...

>pilot sentries
>what is phase shift
>what is holo pilots
>what is arc grenades from a mile away
As if you couldn't be more obvious that you don't understand the tools a good player has access to.

>>165136453
speed is life

How the hell do I snipe on ps4. I scrounged on investing into a gaming pc after getting ps4 and now I regret that decision whenever I pick up a new shooter.

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>>165136046
>doodle used as op image again
warms my heart desu

>>165136731
sniper rifles have no aim assist, so get familiar with that thumbstick or give up

>>165136251

Show us what a slow can do, shitter. Post a scoreboard against a tfg member

or just a fast in general

slowshitters can kill other slows all fucking day, but the fast players will always haunt the back of your mind as you watch your deathcam.

You're not even close to strong enough for the skies.

>>165136786
EVA-8 it is.

>>165136731
It's just a matter of practise

I'm far from being good but it feels like it requires a lot of effort

>>165136875
that's the spirit

>>165136195
400dpi and 2.4 or 2.5 sens. still trying to decice which feels better

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anyone wish they would bring all the old burn cards back as banners? this one in particular was one of my favorites, both in looks and function.
spectre burncard + hacking spectres was fun. too bad you couldnt use the automatic hacking burncard at the same time as the spectre camo card

Joined the PC network but I hope there are some fellow Europoors in there

>>165136731
shoulda built a pc anon. its much cheaper than any pre-built "gaming" pcs, they will rip you off hard.

>>165136786
congrats famalambampai!

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>>165136731

>fastfags keep spewing memes about how they are 2fast4you
>the slowcuck is actually trying to pose arguments based on game mechanics

Guys you really gotta do better than this I mean god damn

>>165137864
whoop, meant for >>165136195

>>165137340
Honestly I miss burn cards. They were an amazing part of Titanfall and I was expecting to see these mechanics fully fleshed out more - and they just axed them.

Here is a good quote from Penny Arcade on the Titanfall 2 Beta:

>As I was playing it, and liking it, I was also making assumptions about things that weren’t true. For example, I wasn’t aware that Burn Cards were gone gone. I read an article where a developer delivers what I would describe as “ineffective argumentation” about that, specifically calling out one of the coolest manifestations of Burn Cards - the Atlas Refurb. Essentially, it allows someone to start the game with a Titan. When I start a match, and I see one of those fucking things fall, trust me: that’s not a bad thing. It’s scary in the best possible way. That is something that reinforces their loop. I believe Titanfall more than I believe other shooters, and part of that is that there are multiple scales of engagement: it’s not just fast hitboxes running around a post apocalyptic aquarium. Judicious shortcuts of their loop, gated by card rarity, I mean… that’s a bad example.

The article Tycho is referring to is this:

http://www.gamesradar.com/bye-bye-burn-cards-the-big-changes-coming-to-titanfall-2-multiplayer/

>>165137961
Am I reading correctly?

3200 DPI and 5 sens?

How the fuck fast is that

>>165138084
Boosts are meant to be a more reliable and consistent replacement for burn cards.

>>165136195
1800 DPI, default sense

>>165138084
>the coolest manifestations of Burn Cards - the Atlas Refurb. Essentially, it allows someone to start the game with a Titan. When I start a match, and I see one of those fucking things fall, trust me: that’s not a bad thing. It’s scary in the best possible way.
i miss burn cards too, but this was definitely a bad thing. burn cards to call titans in at the very start of the match is plain unfair. a user could have 3 of them, and a team could all be using them. if you think pubstomps are bad now, imagine a premade with ronin/tone burncards.

id like burn cards to be back but more balanced, some of the cards were clearly too strong. the rare ones that sold for 400 merits were too good.
that said, boosts are not bad, they just need a little more variety like burn cards had. id like more boosts but with less potency. amped weapons is fun and all, but it is very strong and can turn the tides of a match quickly in the right hands. stuff like pilot sentry also has no place in this game at all.
i think boosts could be good with a little rework

>>165138140
must be something different with his mouse or some shit, that is insanely fast. i think youd spin around twice by just moving the mouse around your mousepad a bit

>>165138159
Boosts are not consistent because there are 6 players in a match, each of which could use any number of boosts you don't fully see until they are used against you. They are irregular and spread out enough where you might never even see all 6 enemy boosts used in a game.

Furthermore knowing there are pilot sentry turrets is only useful information when you see one deployed, once destroyed you can't just go slow and hide in corridors the rest of the match because there isn't any. Oh shit someone is using amped weapons? Better not get into any gunfights!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying boosts are bad. I'm just saying that boosts are not analogies to burn cards because they don't provide the short cut or loops you wouldn't want players to have multiple times a match. Being permanently invisible shouldn't be a boost, and if that card is too good you can amp the rarity up

>>165138342
A pubstomp with a bunch of Titans dropped in at the start would be insanely OP, but you are using a disposable resource you don't get back. For 6 guys to drop refurbs on a casual match is just bad. And with how devastating pilot AT weapons are it's not even the end of the world.

In the specific instance Tycho was referring to, having a refurb drop in lets say a CTF match was genuinely terrifying and "Oh fuck we need to deal with this right away" - but it was FUN terrifying. Having 6 refurbs is a problem, but they could easily plan and deal for that.

As I said, system expanded, tweaked and refined instead of being removed. The Spectre Hack is a perfect example of just a super fun, awesome boost that doesn't even fuck up gameplay. Maybe only allow 1 refurb to be deployed per team? Maybe blah blah blah

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>>165138140
about yea, going from end to end of my mousepad that's like apparently 9.84 in across

>>165138342
>endless stim
>with phase shift
i can only dream of the nightmares

>>165138342
>amped weapons is fun and all, but it is very strong and can turn the tides of a match quickly in the right hands.
Which is why you get it at 80% Titan charge. By the time it's available to you, you have your Titan.

>>165138643
Isn't the rule of thumb that dragging your mouse from one end to another should result in one full 360?

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>>165138898
hell if i know, hell if i care, this is what works for me
i absolutely hate it if i have to drag the mouse along to move it

>>165138598
>A pubstomp with a bunch of Titans dropped in at the start would be insanely OP, but you are using a disposable resource you don't get back. For 6 guys to drop refurbs on a casual match is just bad. And with how devastating pilot AT weapons are it's not even the end of the world.
titans are different in 2, everyone knows this. early titan advantage can mean a win if the enemy team is not all focused on taking down the titan, which is almost never the case in pubs. especially if its something like ronin or tone, who both excel at destroying pilots with ease. sure it might be fun or an adrenaline rush for both teams a few times, but getting stomped by titans the moment the game starts is going to get old real quick.
the card may be disposable, but a titan can go a long way.
>In the specific instance Tycho was referring to, having a refurb drop in lets say a CTF match was genuinely terrifying and "Oh fuck we need to deal with this right away" - but it was FUN terrifying. Having 6 refurbs is a problem, but they could easily plan and deal for that.
again, with how different titans are in 2, this could mean a guaranteed win for the team in the right hands. not everyone is good at poking with an MGL from safety or sniping with charge rifles, most players cant even slidehop.

yeah stuff like mass spectre hack was good and id like to see more of things like that and the one that made grunts ignore you. stuff that alters gameplay and gives an advantage, but not a big one

Fuck tone

>>165138643
how can you aim like that? how do you track targets when such small movements of your mouse send your crosshair flying? especially when targets are moving fast.
if it works for you then yeah its fine no problem, but consider trying a low sensitivity sometime. it has many advantages over high sensitivity and youll find that almost all pro fps players use a low sensitivity. it keeps your aim steadier, makes tracking and airstrafing smoother. you will need a large mousepad though

>>165138898
I go by the rule that moving from the center of the pad to either edge is a full rotation, however I use a fuckhuge mousepad.

>it's another "whole enemy team uses Devotion/Volt, Pilot Sentries and Tone" episode

can you pay me chemo

>>165139030
>but getting stomped by titans the moment the game starts is going to get old real quick.

The thing is Titans are also way, way more fragile in 2 than in 1. They can't soak up nearly as much damage, and the ones that can will get just eaten by pilots because they have nowhere to hide. A single Ronin running around will get some damage in and fuck some shit up, absolutely, but there are no batteries around to heal his health or give him shields.

I'd be more afraid of a Stryder running around on Angel City than any of the TF2 Titans - because they can bail the second their shield gets plinked by anything.

Your argument about how people aren't good at using AT weapons in an even half competent way doesn't matter, because once you extend that to anything else it's all over. Should we start balancing the entire game around people who can't chain two wall runs together or can't ADS competently?

I'm not saying have a fuck ton of refurbs about - I'm not saying TF2 needs to drop 20 refurbs in. All I'm saying is having that be the explanation for having the entire system removed is stupid as fuck. Make that card super rare? I didn't see many of them and never once felt like the game was cheap for it being there. Same with any burn card, really, because they were globally announced and I knew to look out for them

The biggest issue with the cards wasn't the Refurb, it's that a lot of them sucked and you are virtually giving away the shittier ones. You are putting stuff like a slightly longer lasting stim burn card ability mixed in with infinite C4 or the Amped EVA-8. What am I going to take into a match, an Amped Kraber or perma-Stim, Perma Cloak or forever maphax?

>Arc nades will never be nerfed
Whoever though that impact nades with massive AoE that turn pilots into grunts and titans into nothing with two charges and giant throwing distance is fine should neck themselves.

>>165139539
Like if you ever use the rematch burn card you are a shitter, and nobody ever uses the double XP card.

>>165136195
3200 DPI

>>165139539
>The thing is Titans are also way, way more fragile in 2 than in 1. They can't soak up nearly as much damage, and the ones that can will get just eaten by pilots because they have nowhere to hide. A single Ronin running around will get some damage in and fuck some shit up, absolutely, but there are no batteries around to heal his health or give him shields.
you are forgetting that this ronin is not the only person on his team. the rest of his team is going to be out there aiding him and killing enemy pilots. its not like the enemy team will have free reign to destroy it. it gives one team an obvious advantage by having a titan from the get-go.
>I'm not saying have a fuck ton of refurbs about - I'm not saying TF2 needs to drop 20 refurbs in. All I'm saying is having that be the explanation for having the entire system removed is stupid as fuck.
i have no idea why the system was removed and id like it back in, just with no free titan cards or any of the other clearly OP cards.

i cant understand your pov with free titans. already competitive play is limiting titans and titan types per team in tf2 because of how easy some of them can slay pilot. titan cores are no longer a damage/speed/hp boost, but for the most part they are a near 1 shot titan button. you should have to earn your titan, or at the very least wait for the meter while killing AI. theres just too many ways titan cards are too strong, and would be worse in 2

>750 DPI
>4th tick from the left on Windows sens
>1.4 in-game

It's a low/medium sens, about 25cm per 180. My mousepad is 40cm x 46cm, so I can aim with my shoulder/arm, which I think is more comfortable than wristbreaking high-sens aim.

>>165139586
I often stun myself more than enemies

>>165140245
what the fuck it deleted my >>165136195

anyways, I guess it's pretty much the same as yours

>>165140245
>4th tick from the left on Windows sens
just what difference does this really make? ive read all kinds of explanations, most say to leave it in the middle at 6 ticks.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IijQdQoxEM

Titanfall 2 anime when?
>implying that you wouldn't watch it

>>165140349
no clue, but it feels decent in and out of all my games, so that's where i have it

i think the most important thing is to have the "Enhance Pointer Precision" checkbox off, because that's just a stupid disguise name for "Shit Tier Mouse Acceleration". like polling rate on thing is god-awful

>>165139985
The OP cards are fine because they are rare. If there are too many of them, make them even rarer. You are making it seem like a single Titan is a game breaking issue that can not be overcome. In TF2 Pilot damage against Titans are increased, and a good chunk of some weapons are far less versatile against Pilots. In a casual match having a single refurb drop out of the sky isn't going to guarantee a victory, especially if someone whips out an amped AT weapon as an answer.

Competitive play would obviously not have Burn Cards.

People like the cards. Some guy who runs a million dollar a year gaming business likes it. I like it. You are free to disagree but the amount of refurbs I saw was never a big deal to begin with. I just think the cards should all have some form of not bullshit utility - double XP or "grunts ignore you" isn't a good card when you have guys running around foreverstimmed.

If a Refurb gets dropped in it's as simple as two people popping amped charge rifle / archers and bam - problem solved.

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>Dice roll Titan sentry
>There are no titans around

I just camped out a whole match with Northstar + Threat scope in that canyon map

gee that felt like pure cheese
24 pilot kills and 34 minion kills
enemy team just couldn't touch me
My team's titans were defending my vanatge point and I just shit at everything highlighted red.


I'm wondering why it didn't lvl my northstar that much.

Do pilot kills even count?

>>165140415
Didn't titanfall 1 came around the same time attack on titan became a meme?

>>165141557
only titan dooms and kills count i think

>[RDDT] doing well at all
>Volt/Devotion/EVA + Tone

it's like fucking clockwork

>>165136195
I'd like to change it. Considering it's probably pretty high and I've been playing on 3.9 sens. How do I even change DPI on Windows 10?

>>165139037
t. Ronin shitty smelly weeb

>>165140432
>>165140349
The way Windows Mouse Settings handles mouse polling is a really awful way of doing it.

At Sensitivity 6, it receives and uses every input from your mouse. 1:1 ratio

At lower sensitivities, it begins to ignore polls from your mouse, literally skipping parts of your mouse movement to "slow" it. It results in a jittery movement.
At sen5, it ignores every fourth input.
At sen4, it ignores every other input.
Going lower than that, it ignores the majority of your inputs.

On the flip side, going higher than 6 is even worse.
At 7 or higher, windows will frequently force the mouse harder in the direction you are moving it to make it go "faster", it will deliberately make you overshoot at constant intervals.

Either way, moving away from Sensitivity 6 introduces an inconsistent rate of movement from your own hand movements.
Stick with adjusting mouse DPi and in-game sensitivity. Use Raw Mouse Input whenever possible.
Also turn off "Enhance Pointer Precision", it causes mouse acceleration that is far from smooth since it is just using that 1 to 11 sensitivity on the fly.

Eurobean power hour and thread is dying

thanks fellow eurolads

>regen'ing all the titans
>done with all of them except weebstick master
>mfw i'm a pilot lawnmower
>mfw my minion farm is skyrocketing

this feels ALMOST too easy. kinda sucks how i can only get 1 or 2 titan kills at most when the big robos start falling though.

>>165140737
>You are making it seem like a single Titan is a game breaking issue that can not be overcome.
yes thats my point, i said it a few times. titans are totally different this time around and a single one at the start of the match can possibly guarantee a victory. we're just repeating ourselves at this point so lets just agree to disagree

https://mobile.twitter.com/VinceZampella/status/816711756143857664

Update soon™

>>165143181
interesting, never knew that. do some people purposefully use sensitivity lower than 6? ignoring every x inputs sounds like it would be kinda rng-ish ingame.
though i suppose moving a mouse means a lot of inputs? meaning you would not notice the difference?
or am i way off?

>>165139404
/tfg/ in-houses when

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>>165146306
>https://mobile.twitter.com/VinceZampella/status/816711756143857664

K I L L M E

how much damage does Tone's full core do now? can it still full doom an Ogre chassis? i'm pretty sure it can instakill a Stryder, since I've spent most of my time in those, but i'm not so sure about Atlas and Ogre

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>>165146346
Saturday the 21st, if you have it install titanfall 1 too but either way there will be private matches held for 2
Most likely multiple sessions for both burgers and euros

>Scorch's "Fuel for the fire" increases wall burn time
>doesn't increase trap burn time

If it was swapped around I would consider using it over the improved flame shield. Love me some traps.

>>165146332
not that anon, but some gaming mice have software attached to them that lets you control your mouse's report rate. mine is currently set at 1000 per second, which is max for me

so
i noticed something that tells me the level of mental illness some of you guys have
Are there any scorch players who actually know how not to die with their own thermite?
I was IN FRONT of an enemy scorch a few times during my last match, and even though i was a northstar, so he could have killed me in no time if he wanted to, well, he died in seconds just because he hit a wall near him and not me

>>165147710
I'm able to dance around my own thermite all the time, I only step into the flames when I'm severely outnumbered (3 to 1) and am gonna die anyways.

titan ideas? titan ideas

>"Savage"
>Ogre chassis
>LMB/Primary Fire is a FAWKANN PAWWWNCH, can be charged for dmgs, has knockback.
>the charging bar goes up and down like those "get the max power" minigames
>RMB/Secondary Fire is an ADS, lets you shoot a grapple fist.
>can be charged for range, you can spiderman with it (not much) or pull Titans a short distance
>that's right, an Ogre with (some) verticality
>MMB/Defensive is a boxer's guard stance. Mitigates damage that hits your forearms (so people can still snipe your crit spot if they aim) and negates melee knockback from enemies.
>F/Melee is just the regular pleb punch that every Titan throws
>Q/Ordnance is an adhesive pool trap. Pilots get full stuck in it, Titans get a slow.
>Grapple fisting a Titan in the pool will pull you to them instead of them to you.
>G/Utility is a stubby front kick that doesn't do much damage but has big mutual knockback range, for disengaging.
>V/Core is increased Primary Fire charge speed and empowered pleb melees, and neither of them have knockback.
>Execution is that judo flip into Machinegun Forehead Punching that you see Donnie Yen do in Ip Man, but you're pummeling the cockpit instead of a forehead

>>165148110
kits now

>"Measured Force" kit has a more lenient window for max Primary Fire power, and also reduces knockback on successful max power hits
>"Roundhouse" kit turns the mutual knockback on the Utility kick into all enemy displacement, so they go flying further
>"Megaglue" turns your adhesive pool slow on Titans into them just being stuck. They can still turn.
>"Rocket Punch" kit lets your Secondary Fire fly farther and pull farther.
>"Black Eye" kit gives your core even faster Primary Fire charge speed, but it has knockback again.

>>165146740
Awesome
Count me in.

>>165148452
>>165148110
The kit to trap enemies would just make this a better Ronin at killing.

Unless his DPS was shit.

>>165146332
The only setting lower than 6 that could be considered viable is 4 since that just cuts the number of reported mouse movements in half, making it relatively consistent. However, you can get the same effect without any of the jank and far greater smoothness by halving your in-game sensitivity.

Ideally, the method of getting the smoothest possible mouse movement is Windows sensitivity 6, raising your DPI and lowering the game sensitivity.
In my case, I use 800 DPI and 3.0 game sensitivity, only because 800 is ideal for both aiming the camera and moving the mouse cursor. I could double my DPI to 1600 and reduce sensitivity to 1.5, and that would give me smoother aiming with the same distance traveled, although my cursor would be moving twice as fast.

>though i suppose moving a mouse means a lot of inputs?
The average generic five dollar optical mouse reports detected movements 125 times per second or slower (they're also usually fixed to 800DPI).
Most performance/game mice report at 250hz by default, and some can be clocked higher to 500hz or 1000hz.

While 125 may sound high, a casual user only checking their email won't notice it, but veteran gamers will eventually come to notice (or at least claim to notice) tiny inconsistencies in their movement when making extremely fast flicks of the arm (and they will definitely come to notice dropped inputs with a Windows sensitivity other than 6). And since 144 FPS is the growing trend now, 125 mouse reports means you're going to have more frames than mouse actions.

In addition, Windows still has to process each poll from the mouse. A lower Windows Sensitivity basically means that you're cutting the polling rate of your mouse in a fucked up way. Even if you had a very high rate like 1000 where each report is only 0.001 seconds apart, Windows will still take all 1000 of them, process and then discard half of them.

>>165148595
he'd be devastated by any legion with the double R1 ability, i don't think it would be coherent with the rest of the titans

>>165148725
Ronin is also devastated by legion. He would also be fucking garbage at killing pilots not in melee distance.

I don't know, but the idea sounds like a better ronin for killing titans but a much worse ronin for killing pilots.

>>165148595
probably have the "get stuck" kit have reduced duration. that, and his dps is all skill- and rhythm-based

>>165148725
but the RMB grabby grabby my dude

>>165148957
I don't think a rhythm game is the right fit for something like Titanfall. Especially in something like attrition you already have enough to worry about that no other titan or pilot does.

>>165148908
well, ronin is fucking Ace if you're skilled with him, both at killing pilots and titans
i don't know m8s, gluey mech seems too stupid to fit any role, because if it's a slow ass ronin, it's just a piece of metal

>>165146452
this desu senpai

>2 weeks

J U S T

>leave titan on advanced autopilot while I chase around for kills
>it walks around for a few minutes, gets about three kills and maybe even rekts a noob titan
>enter titan immediately after it landed
>I am forced to eject within 15 seconds

What. Do empty titans get some insane armor boosts or what?

Explain something to me. Pilots are elite soldiers specially trained to control titans. Instead of this being their only job they are also sticked with as much state of the art weaponry as possible and dropped as shock troopers. So when they die, both investments are lost, one of which likely unused. I call bullshit on that reasoning.

>>165150824
Auto-Titans get some fancy dodges and whatnot, but they're limited to their primary weapon; they don't get any health bonuses or whatever. If you have the Assault Chip equipped, your Auto-Titan gets access to the rest of their abilities to use (except their Core, I believe).

Scorch is the smartest Auto-Titan.

>>165150824
Some Enhanced auto-titans are really good at using their tools. Most of all, titans can lead their shots like it wasn't anything, even Scorch can snipe a pilot flying through the air with his Launcher.
Also, they all juke enemy projectiles like pros with unique spin and duck animations.

If they aren't directly contested by player titans up in their face, they can do quite well.

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>>165150974
To be fully certified as a Pilot is to be an ace among aces on the ground, and that's before you step into your Titan's cockpit. Taken from the /tfg/ website:
>PILOTS are rated by 'certifications', most of which apply to civilian applications, such as construction, shipping and heavy salvage industries. The most prestigious of these is the Full Combat Certification - a widely published series of tests that grade a Titan Pilot's abilities. Because of the extreme physical and mental challenges of mastering both Titan combat & dismounted parkour movement, a fully combat certified Titan Pilot is a rare find, and the combat skills of active Pilots in the field varies widely throughout the Frontier.
Some are formally trained by the IMC or Militia's dedicated programs, while the vast majority is trained by independent mercenary or pirate groups. A large black market surrounding the technology used by Pilots is rumored to have developed across the Frontier, covering areas such as weapons modifications, physical alterations and strengthening, stolen training simulation pods and Titan-Pilot combat interface abilities

>>165151181
I was dominant in an Amped Hardpoint match on Crash Site once, and half of that was leaving my Scorch in guard mode next to one of the hardpoints for half the match while I secured another point. No one ever got close to that point.

>>165151047
>>165151181
I play scorch, that explain a lot. I was thinking about switching to Legion because I like his theme of sheer vanilla power. How is he doing on assault chip?

>>165151254
The quote only further illustrates what I am getting at. If good pilots are so rare, why risk them dying while carrying expensive equipment? Even if they weren't, such high tech would be better used on troops specialised in ground combat only.

>>165151380

Agreed. Especially the maps where 2 of the 3 hardpoints are only reachable by pilots it's better to leave the enemy tesm in their titan while you capture/hold the points
They're shit if they're getting rodeod though

>>165151541
Because the only thing that can reasonably kill a Pilot is another Pilot. Grunts can only go so far in ground combat. Remember the first mission after the tutorial, when you hit the ground as a Rifleman? It's completely different when you get the Pilot abilities.

>>165151695
Grunts can only go so far because they are not strapped with a ton of gear, topped of with extensive training. Which could be better used by somebody whos death wouldnt mean losing a pilot.

What is best Ronin loadout?

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>>165151824
>Trusting a grunt to wallrun

Playing with the 2016 semi auto pistol was the best idea ever.

Mag dumping niggas makes me feel like an American cop

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>Console version of Tf2 has a FoV slider

Literally GOTY

>>165151541
Just to clarify, what high tech are you talking about? The grapple hook? The A-Wall, because we see IMC troops using a variant of that in campaign. Cloak? That one is two parts, at least in the lore, one part being in the suit, the other surgically implanted into the pilot, which could explain why cooper only has a few seconds of cloak.

The jumpkit? That's repurposed from salvage work, where workers were in space, so those would seem to be cheap enough.

If you're talking about the abundance of spare titans and pilots in multiplayer, that's just multiplayer. In the campaign, the IMC's pilots are only ever seen in titans, which suggests that that IS their only job. Milita does it differently, especially with the introduction of the Vangaurd class titans.

From the lore page
>Whilst the IMC considers its Titans and Pilots to be interchangeable and disposable, the Militia views each of its new Vanguard Pilot-Titan units as a long-term investment. As a result, an experienced Vanguard Titan-Pilot team is far more flexible and deadlier than any single IMC Titan and Pilot on the Frontier.

>>165152074
Which part of training you dont get?

>>165152350
And by IMC pilots, I don't mean the Apex Predators. Who are also never seen outside their titans, except outside of combat or to taunt you. By IMC pilots I mean the random titans you fight during campaign, who have generic lines and only display the titan's chassis name ie Tone, Scorch, Ronin, etc.

>>165151892
Double Arc Wave and either double smoke or overcore

Doom Phase and Nuke Eject is effective if the enemy team is braindead

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>>165136046
>He used BTs prime rendition
Almost fap-worthy in its simplicity, well done, doodleanon

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>>165136046
I like it!

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>G14.7 with scorch
>people are now learning the counters and how to avoid me
send help

Who are these F3 guys? Are they part of tfg?
They really like to talk trash while they are stomping pubs.

>>165153616
Counter the counters.

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>>165151892
I'm not a Ronin authority, so I will defer to FrothyOmen's "Mastering Ronin" video. According to him, your options are:
>Overcore (because Sword Core is amazing)
>Counter Ready (FROTHY PREFERRED: double smoke gives Ronin extra flexibility and is universally good in any situation)

>Ricochet Rounds (to deal with Pilots)
>Thunderstorm (double Arc Wave to make yourself more offensive)
>Temporal Anomaly (FROTHY PREFERRED: 30% faster phase dash mitigates not having a third dash and lets you more consistently get in and out)

>>165146740
>Probably will go back to Titanfall 1
Count me in senpai, I've been wanting to do that for a while

>>165153853
Only a scant few of them are good on their own, the rest get their asses kicked if they aren't stacked up on one team. They all of course use the meme weapons like Volt and Devotion and Phase Shift and Nuke Ronin.

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just about

For the softball do I run fast reload and more ammo? Or should I swap one for tactikill? Which one?

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>>165153859
that's the problem
scorch is easily countered
i'm now having to play 34th dimensional checkers to kill tones

>>165153853
[F3] is the official network of FrothyOmen, the YouTuber mentioned in >>165153898 and believed to be one of the foremost authorities of the game.

>>165154072
Reload and Tactikill.

>>165153616
>People now know how to deal with scorch
>Now I use Ronin for flanks and Legion for tanking
>Laugh as I dice or destroy all the new scorchs hoping for spicy fingers

>>165153975
I did notice that, 3 of them using Devotion and A wall or cloak and a ton of turrets. Even fucking smart pistol.
3 games in a row with those guys and is OK, when you play alone you are open for that shit but the trash talk was the worst part.

>>165154249
>>Laugh as I dice or destroy all the new scorchs hoping for spicy fingers
desu i'm always the one laughing when ronins think they can out-DPS my spicy finger

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>>165154374
>Just running up and meleeing scorch
Lolno, it goes sneak up>arc wave/magdump>phase or dash around while dropping smoke
At that point, I look at my health, and depending on the situation I either repeat or retreat, scorch is easy to run away from and even easier to bait 90% of the time. And I never ever get into range of the spicy finger, unless his back is turned and I have phase dash off cooldown.

>>165153853
it's FrothyOmen's network

stands for Frothy's Frontier Force, but it might as well be Frothy's Fuckboy Fags with how much they complain and how all of them use meme-tier metashit weapons

i don't think i've seen an [F3] with a grenadier weapon even once, probably since Frothy hates them so much

>>165154072
Reload for maximum spam, but tactikill is usually better if you are good at landing kills with a maximum of two shots per kill. At that point you don't need extra ammo

>>165153853
They're just RDDT 2.0. they're frothy's groupies.

>>165154752
>Reload for maximum spam
Meant to say ammo

>>165154752
>>165154829
>>165154153
Thanks guys. Now I just need to level it up.

>>165154879
I would say use ammo + fast reload to get the hang of it. Once you're comfortable swap ammo for tactikill

>>165154879
Good luck, and enjoy using best gun

>>165154740
>>165154769

Frothy is shit, it is hard for me to see all these guys following him and actually listening his meta advice.

>>165155046
i dont like him either, but you have to at least admit that his movement in-game is pretty clean

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>>165151392
Auto Legion is pretty shit with or without Assault Chip.
He only uses close range ammo for normal shooting.
Randomly picks which Power Shot he uses regardless of the situation.
Will only put up his shield after he gets hit by an enemy Titan.
If any enemy of any sort gets close, he will forego use of any of his abilities or cannon and just melee. Poorly.
His accuracy is deliberately crippled (extra spread added to weapons when an NPC uses them), he can't hit a Grunt at close range with an entire magazine to save his life.

When it comes to Enhanced Auto-Titans, the best in order are tiered something like
Scorch, Ronin, Ion
Tone, Northstar
Legion

>>165155046
>>165155229
>Frothy is shit, it is hard for me to see all these guys following him and actually listening his meta advice.

Frothy is a pretty good player, especially movement wise. He also has some good advice and opinions, but he is a meta first player through and through. He massively overlooks the fun factor and especially grenadiers

>>165155046
>>165155229
>>165155421
What would you say to something like >>165153898?

>>165155010
I've been using it. I came from console to PC. I don't like citing him too much but frothy put it pretty well. Grenade weapons are only as good as your opponent is bad.

But they sure are fun.

>>165155595
Like I was saying, Frothy has some good advice. His recommendations for Ronin are spot on and very effective. Some of his other opinions like all the pistols being S tier and the grenadiers being bad is another matter.

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>>165136046
why the fuck do people camp this much in this game
I thought it was about fast
Also why the fuck is every enemy titan Tone?

>>165155891
Unlike the first game where even sighted spread had a bit of inaccuracy to it, many weapons in the second are pinpoint, it is way too easy to pick enemies off in the air.

In the first, you could get around and not worry that much about enemy fire from a distance. Only if they were up close would you need to worry about a quick death. Now you'll get chewed up from across the map by a Volt or Devotion.

>>165155595
I don't know, since it's too difficult to judge someone's (in this case, Frothy's) familiarity/skill with a Titan without watching a bunch of LTS games of them playing just that Titan. You have to see how they think and how they model the game, and then how that philosophy plugs into their Titan's overall kit. How they play in different situations, different matchups (both varying Titans and varying skill levels of opponent/teammate), and different maps matters a lot for gauging Titan-piloting skill.

I mean, yeah, generally you can tell who the melee-mashing Retard Ronins are, but from the middle of the curve upwards, it's hard to judge at a glance.

For those Ronin tips specifically, I'd say it looks pretty much "not wrong", but I'm not a Ronin expert either. That said, I think there's a lot of parity among Ronin's kits, and it's all up to how you want to use the Titan.

>Slonne
>gets hyped through the entire game
>Her fight is in generic control room
>Its not much diffirent from regular titan fight
>She dies like a bitch and explodes

>Viper
>FAST as fuck
>Speed is life
>Probably the most overpowered Northstar on the frontier
>Comes literally out of fucking nowhere to fuck up your day
>Destroys half of your shuttles in about 20 seconds
>His fight is on the top a fucking flying spaceship
>Actually can backup his chuuni words
>CIA power stance in the credits
>Actually harms BT unlike the rest of Apex Predators
>Even after being defeated comes back to fuck up your day once more
>You had to rip off his cockpit to finish him so no execution dishonor

Blisk made a mistake choosing his second in command

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>>165155891
Some people aren't confident enough in leveraging the movement system to their advantage with whatever weapon they're using. Some prefer the high ground and being able to pick people off without abandon.

Tone is the most popular Titan for a few reasons, all owing to her overall ease of use:
>She is the most straightforward of the Titans and is a one-trick pony (get lock, launch missiles)
>Her 40mm cannon is the best Pilot killer primary weapon
>She can fight at mid-long range, meaning given the opportunity, she can zone people out
>She has a free Pulse Blade with her sonar ability, which lets her see what's coming
>Salvo Core is one of the most devastating Cores in the game and is stupendously easy to use

>>165156186
>Slone is his right hand pilot and public second-in-command
>Viper is his left hand man who he sends to quietly get the hardest jobs done

It's not always the best idea to show off the ace (heh) up your sleeve.

>>165155891
Tone is overpowered

>>165156186
>[Slone's boss fight] not much diffirent from regular titan fight
She disengages at least, what, three different times while throwing large waves of enemies at you in between.

Actually, why we don't hear of Viper until he shows up? He's so based that he just waited patiently to blitzkrieg our ass?

>TF3
>Viper comes back as Stimbot with infinite jetpack

>>165155595
wait? you really think that shit is hard to find out?
Every titan have just some viable configurations and play style.
I dont get why there are kids that have to see a video to understand shit like that instead of playing the game, test some shit and realize what works and don't.

>>165156063
>Unlike the first game where even sighted spread had a bit of inaccuracy to it, many weapons in the second are pinpoint, it is way too easy to pick enemies off in the air.
>In the first, you could get around and not worry that much about enemy fire from a distance. Only if they were up close would you need to worry about a quick death. Now you'll get chewed up from across the map by a Volt or Devotion.
You hit the nail on it's head.
This is by far the weakest part of the game. The entire game would benefit from 2x pilot health.

>>165156186
Viper is a one-note Pilot whose gimmick is a heavily-modified Northstar that outright flies and lets him keep up with shuttles. He has no mind for logistics or overall strategy or anything of the sort. He is strictly a figher ace, nothing more, and that's all we ever learn of him. Yes, his encounter is one of the most memorable, but I think you're severely overselling Viper.

>>165156567
>Viper and Blisk both know that Viper's probably the best pilot in OI-pex
>Blisk lets him run his own cadre of handpicked black ops wingmen
>Viper can't be Maximum Operator and also second-in-command
>All of OI-pex knows that Slone is a mediocre pilot at best, but still an asset as a logistics manager
>Blisk makes Slone is second-in-command and keeps her close by on a leash, both to protect her and to keep Viper a secret weapon
>Viper is literally CIA

Slone is basically Blisk's secretary, if you listen to what she says and does throughout the story.

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>>165156781
Because people don't know how to play Ronin, and his options aren't immediately obvious.

>>165138159
Pity they're boring CoD pointstreaks.

>>165156186
Slone is just a second-in-command type who orders others around.
Viper is the muscle who gets things done himself behind the scenes.

It's like the difference between Grand Moff Tarkin and DARTH VADER.

>>165156915
>Blisk and and sexy secretary Slone taking notes.

I like it.

>>165156567
Why the fuck would you announce to your enemy that you're coming? No excuse like for Ash or Richter, who didn't know you hacked their radios, Blisk figured out you did it after you kill Richter.

But why didn't we hear of him? Did we need to? Did we see him or Kane after Blisk attacks Lastimosa? We didnt really need to.

>>165156851
That's some heresy right there

But you are correct

>>165157091
>Slone with glasses, a white collared button-up, and a pencil skirt

You might be onto something here, anon.

>>165157216
I might.

>>165157216
>>165157091
>Blisk in a business suit
>Still wears a harness over it for his shoulder knife
>Sleeves are ripped off

Talking about Viper
Does Northstar stops being shit at some moment?

>>165156851
Ah, but Viper is the quintessence of what it means to be a Pilot. Viper is the Pilot that every Pilot should aspire to be. A Pilot doesn't need to know anything about logistics, or grand strategy.

A Pilot and his Titan together are nothing more than a force multiplier with a brain (or two, if you count the robot). Viper has discarded the "shore up your weaknesses" way of thinking and gone all-in on "augment your strengths". He's at the point at which his strengths in combat (which is all a Pilot should worry about) are nigh unmatched. If a Pilot wants to do logistics, or strategy and troop coordination, he should retire from being a Pilot ASAP.

>>165157410
shit, now I have to do that.

>>165157706
make sure he has a red Hitman tie

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>>165157435
Northstar is the best peeker. She can peek from angles no other Titan can. Catch enemy Titans through gaps, and always play hard-to-get. You must take solace in the fact that no one will ever catch you as Northstar, and make the enemy know that it will be a losing battle for them if they try.

>"Welcome back, Pilot."
>[She looks happy.]

>>165157568
Not him, but I get what you're saying. His biggest strength is mobility, but he doesn't use that enough in his fight. Not to mention he's easily beaten by a tone with tracking rockets or the simple expedition loadout.

I suppose he was geard up more for anti-aircraft than titan combat, which shows, because all the missles in the world couldn't reach you behind cover.

>>165157568
And that's why he should be second-in-command of Apex?

>>165139030
All that early Titan means in tf2 is getting laser'd to death in a minute with all the roofs and nooks on current maps and without a regenerating shield. You can't keep a Titan going like you used to with phase shifts or a-wall im the game.

>mfw gunrunner isn't as shit as people say
I'm using it on my backup pistol and nobody bothered to tell me you can still run while shooting, I thought it just meant you could immediately transition to the firing stance while running. It's way better in occasions where you need to keep moving without going in a predictable slide path or when there isn't a wall nearby.
Obviously not that useful on primary weapons but whatever.

>Frothy puts the Mastiff in F tier
>Amped wall in S
>Thunderbolt in C
>Unsubscribed

>>165158839
Gunrunner only really works on SMGs and certain grenadiers, but there's usually better options.

>>165156567
he seems like the ace in the hole for the apex predators
"ok this guy is getting really fucking annoying, send viper for his ass."

>>165158839
I run quick reload and gunrunner on just about everything.

Then again all i use is the volt, car, alternator, EPG and EVA-8


im on console so dont be mad for me using the volt

>>165159000
>he was subscribed in the first place

>>165158839
He was going so fast He got to us before Blisk could call it in

>>165159000
>Mastiff in shit tier alongside the Archer and Spitfire
In the grand scheme of things, I'm not surprised. You have to work way harder with the Mastiff to get kills than you do with the EVA-8 or Mozambique - both of which, for the record, are in his S-tier. If you're a meta babby, there is no reason to pick the Mastiff when the EVA-8 and Mozambique are strictly better options.

>Amped Wall sets up a free defensible position that enemies can't directly shoot through and amplifies your own damage
>Forces enemies to get around/flank you
Again, not surprised he put that in S-tier. A-Wall is one of those tools that specifically makes going slow a viable option.

>>165159000
stop watching shit Meta youtubers

>>165159820
The problem is that Frothy is THE shit meta babby, and everyone else listens to him.

What would /tfg/ rate Titanfall 2's campaign out of 10?

>>165160087
A 6 outta 10

With one 11 outta 10 mission

>>165160087
8/10

>>165160087
7/10

Shooting stuff isnt all that fun especially on higher difficulties. But the level design, jumping on stuff, and the interactions with BT make up for it.

>>165160087
5/5, one of the best FPS campaigns I've ever played. It teaches you all the core tenants of the game and lets you use every weapon and Titan, the narrative is compelling, the setpieces are awe-inspiring, the level design is great, it throws you "puzzles" and good platforming sections to break up the action, the combat is good, and the interactions between Cooper and BT are the bow that ties the entire package together.

>>165160481
Forgot to add that the campaign doesn't overstay its welcome, and it advances the Titanfall story, even just a little bit.

>>165159916
F3 get out.

>>165160087
8/10, and recommend that you play on Hard and not Master. Hard is challenging but enjoyable, whereas in Master you're repeatedly ripped from your immersion by some random grunt putting his foot up your ass and instantly killing you the split second you land in front of him.

I wanted more movement challenges, since I loved Mirror's Edge and did actual parkour for something like 7 years before settling into freelance arting (aka glued to desk). But I guess the game already has a lot of them, especially if you hunt for all the helmets.

>>165158839
>>165159061
>>165159219
Ultimately, Gunrunner is obsoleted by sliding because they both do the same thing.
Gunrunner allows you to shoot while sprinting and more importantly it raises your gun instantly for shooting.
Sliding also instantly raises your gun and gives you a speed boost beyond sprinting.

I find Gunrunner to be best on a few semi-auto weapons so as to prevent the delay between shots you get when you have auto-sprint on and touch the ground moving forward (and aren't sliding for some reason).
EVA-8 especially.

If it isn't the EVA-8, SMGs, EPG or the L-STAR, hip spread is too shit to rely on them and make good use of Gunrunner.
Gunrunner on the Spitfire is strangely effective.

>>165160772
Titanfall's parkour isn't as "intricate" as that in Mirror's Edge, but I would still put more faith in first-person platforming in Titanfall than I would in Mirror's Edge.

>>165160772
I forgot to add that the only reason it's not a 10/10 is because on Hard, none of the enemies really feel like a dire threat, but on Master, they all one- or two-shot you unreasonably fast. In both modes, the AI goes full retard the second you break LoS and do like two metres of wallrunning. If not for the movement system, the great atmosphere, and giant robots, the SP would be like a 4/10.

If the difficulty was adjusted to be somewhere in between Hard and Master, the campaign would be perfect.

>>165153898
I'm subbed to him since there aren't many TFI youtube channels but I don't think his Ronin is any good. He's got good ideas but his gameplay is...

> I'm a pro genji

>>165160880
>Ultimately, Gunrunner is obsoleted by sliding because they both do the same thing.
It also helps that sliding counts as crouching, so you can do drop-shot bullshit like you can in Call of Duty, since you're a smaller target.

Also,
>auto-sprint

>>165160994
>faith
was that a fucking mirror's edge pun

But I feel like opposite of TiFa, M'sE was almost a little too complex for its own good. It overreached just a tiny bit--barely noticeable--in its attempt to fully replicate the range of motion of actual parkour with a reasonable control scheme. It felt pretty nice to have so much freedom (and superhuman wallrunning capabilities) once you mastered the whole control scheme, but by then you're more than halfway through the game.

Also, for some reason the differences in where the first-person camera are placed make it way easier to tell where the fuck you're going to land in Titanfall. I remember having to constantly look down at my feet in Mirror's Edge to make sure I was on a decent trajectory.

>>165136195
DPI 400

Sens 1.7

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>there's more fanart of the titans as almost naked animu girls than there is fanart of them as titans

>>165160880
The problem is that the slide puts your head where most people have their cross hair and you'renot as mobile as when sprinting.

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Best Titanfall 2 youtuber? I need to listen to something while cooking.

>>165161984
oh shit
my twin brother

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>>165162623
Blackman and gingerman

>>165136195
800 DPI, 1.9 sens
about 27 cm/360 that is

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>have a great game
>but it was because the enemy is shit

>have a terrible game
>but still end up top 3

I can't take this polarizing shit anymore

>>165162870
Some multiplayer guide/tutorial guys?

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so today, i'm modelling the TiFa2 smart pistol as my hard surface modelling practice

i dont know what the fuck is up with lastimosa putting screws on every goddamn inch of his designs

but yea, smart pistol coming Soon™, from that data knife anon

>>165163152
Well they bring up multiplayer and some bad tips...

>ugh the reload animation cancels the Ion's shield

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>>165157216
>>165157410
something fast because I have things to do.

>>165160087
A 9/10, and it's only that high because for the game it is, it has no right having a campaign as good as it is. Also Viper.

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>>165163984
Fucking noice

>>165163371
Post that data knife?

>>165163984
this really gets my oi going

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>>165163984
Good shit. /tfg/ is blessed to have the artfags it does.

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>>165163984
Nnnnnoice
pls do lewdz some day

The problem with Tone and Devotion is their universal range.

Devotion is a better sniping rifle and good for spraying up close.

Tone can safely pick off pilots and other titans behind the shield because it just needs 3 potshots to fire its rocket salvo.

Northstar only has 6 shots to one hit pilots with, tone has 12.

Northstar needs to charge fully and has to hit a critspot for good damage, Tone just needs the thre lock ons all while having more health and the shield.


They're just too good at everything.

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>>165164202
I wanted to try a custom shape, since the normal data knife looked like the only thing it could cut was play-doh.

Yes, that's Northstar's Core icon embellished near the guard.

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>>165163984
>Picture of sniper-chan in the right corner
Well played anon

>>165164505
>Devotion no longer fires any shots during spin-up, but spin-up time is shorter
>Tone Particle Wall height reduced to just over her crouching height, forcing her to commit to her position if she wants to use the wall
>If she stands and runs, you can shoot her
>VTOL now has a purpose against Tone

fixed

>>165163371
>The SP MK6 is the choice of deep cover operative, most infamously used by the Advocates in clandestine assassination operations.
>The Smart Pistol is a secret agent/assassin's weapon
That's fucking cool, now that I think about it.

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>>165163984
youre the fuckin best

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Why are titan hands so FUCKING retarded?
Why is it so hard to keep everything at a consistent scale?
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THEM HOLDING THEIR WEAPON RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM 24/7 SO I CAN'T GET GOOD REFERENCE PHOTOS, AND END UP FUCKING UP MY DRAWING?!

Fuck drawing man, this shit took like three hours, a shitload of smudging, some money for more lead, and the wish for death and a better eraser.

>cuckmere CAPTCHA
Alright I feel better.

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Too bad Slone is kind of ratty-looking in-game. I blame the haircut and shit around her eyes. Also, y'know, executing POWs and being a psychopath in general.

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>>165162154
Because drawing robots is more intricate than drawing people, especially with the amount of detail that Titans have.

>>165164505
What annoys me about Tone is his core's RAW damage. Most deal medium burst damage or more damage over time. But with Tone I can drop a fresh Titan, go around the corner and get blown up by a Tone which worked up it's core on some scrub.

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>>165136453
Speed is life

Reposting this because I only made one Northstar WebM

>>165161208
>>auto-sprint
Yes, auto-sprint.
I switched Shift and Ctrl so that shift is Crouch, small finger resting to press in an instant. Because the option is available and one is jumping/sliding/wallrunning 99% of the time anyway, I ignore the manual sprint key and use auto-sprint.

Also why I don't use Gunrunner. Instead I slide for a fraction of a second to get the instant raise, and then jump for the speed while being ready to fire.

>>165163371
why the fuck does the smart pistol have two slide catches

why is one of them backwards

why isn't there even a milled slot on the slide for a slide catch to catch??

>>165160994
>>165161538
The parkour of Mirror's Edge is rather simple, but because that's all the game was about, they put a bunch of functions on different buttons and made some things unnecessarily complex when it came to inputs. Titanfall has everything ME has, but it does it all with just camera control, jump and crouch.

>>165165539
still better than anything I could do anon

keep going, don't stop, you are picking up speed in your own way

make Viper proud

>>165163934
>The ginger's favorite titan is Scorch

>>165166343
the fuck are you smoking?

ME was way more intricate with the wall-running than in titanfall. Literally all titanfall does for parkour is wall running. It's good don't get me wrong, but saying titanfall does parkour better is just plain dumb senpai.

>>165166858
this

>>165165639
I want her to break me in half with her thighs amd whisper "Sorry, love." into my ear.

>>165165539
It looks good so far, anon. I'm impressed with the detail you've put into it

How do i get good with Legion? I get PWNED by Tones and Ronins
Im using Bonus dash and bonus ammo

>>165166858
(cont.)

And on top of all that the level design, in the first Mirrors Edge anyway, was fucking fantastic. Way more thought out than titanfalls MP levels. If you want a pure parkour experience the first Mirrors Edge is the absolute best game bar none.

That being said, it's a good thing Titanfall isn't as complex, can you imagine having to hit all those button queues to vault and shit while trying to go fast and shoot?

>>165166343
Disagree, Mirror's Edge had significantly more precision and options. You don't really decide when to catleap/grab a ledge in TiFa, you either just hit a ledge and hang there without moving, or you auto-mantle because you were holding W. You can't hang and shimmy along, either. You also got to decide exactly when to wallrun instead of jumping at a wall and seeing if it works. M'sE relies more on careful planning and precise execution of a toolkit, and TiFa more on freehanding it and relying on your jump jets. Both are good, don't get me wrong. I love both.

Overall, I think the movement system in M'sE is more oriented around and built for climbing/vertical movement, and TiFa's more built around crossing huge spaces/horizontal movement.

>>165167158
Use hidden compartment
You can doom a ronin in two shots and some additonal BRRRRT.

You do more DPS than tone, but only expose yourself for long periods of time if your gunshield is ready

Know when to use short range/long range mode and go for powershot long range-mode crits for huge damage.

>>165167289
>Is that a Slow camping up there?
>Part of me is actually impressed he got up there
>Let's go kill him
>Almost there
>shit shit SHIT
>missed the ledge grab
>he peeps over the edge and shoots you on your way down

>>165167158
You have a big fucking gun. Point that thing towards the tones and melt those mutherfuckers.
You are a fucking tank just dont stop shooting because you dont have the speed to run away.
Keep a wall near to you all the time so you can get behind to reload.

>>165167158
Legion's gimmick is his close-range and long-range modes. Long-range mode uses ammo twice as fast, but it lets you hit longshots and gives you a Power Shot that pierces Titans and does healthy damage. Close range uses ammo regularly, and the Power Shot is a shotgun blast that does good damage and knockback.

Use your ranges to control space and lay down continuous fire. Save your gun shield for AFTER you start taking damage, since using it to not shield yourself from damage is a waste. If you can help it, activate the shield as you're reloading, so you're not defenseless during the animation.

Use your short-range Power Shot to mulch enemy Pilots. It only costs one bullet, and it's effectively a very large shotgun blast.

Holy shit the double take is so much fun

>>165165539
If you need good titan hands, BT may be your answer. in the campaign you can get a good look when he waits for fastballing, and then he seems to scan with his hand outwards.

Also during the satellite relay mission (the first time he throws you, towards the end of the mission when he catches you, he makes a thumbs up.

Just a few ideas for reference.

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this build is fucking goofy but I like it
only using P2016 against pilots
amped SMR for titans
arc grenades for either

>>165167158
For ronins, switch to close-range mode and grab hidden compartment. The damage is good, especially for sword-happy ronins, but powershot will also push him back.

For tones, if he's close, push up past his particle shield and switch ti close range and mulch him. Tones get panicky with close range. If he's long, predict when he fires missles then bring up gun shield. Long range mode through his shield. You can break it with one clip, assuming he;s not running enhanced shield, and then punish him with two long range power shots. Or use smart core for infinite ammo and mulch his shield and then him.

Good luck.

You can easily run away from a phase nuke eject ronin, if you don't allow him to corner you, which you shouldn't, given he's a scrawny fuck and you lift 500 tons before breakfest.

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>>165136046
>Pilot: If I learn about System A, do you think the Auto-Titan's performance would go up...?
>Pilot: Northstar. What do you do if the opposing Titan just stops moving?
>Northstar: (thinking) I'm probably supposed to answer, 'I'll put a trap', no?
>Northstar: Like this, right?
>Pilot: CORRECT.

>>165161048
He uses leadwall more than just mashing melee and he straight up said Sword Core is primarily best used for damage mitigation w/ swordblock and as an oh-shit button to GTFO of bad situations

>>165168323
Close-range Power Shot also deals very chunky damage to Ronin (if he's not blocking), so make him regret engaging you. If you can at least trade 1:1 damage with Ronin, you're winning, because Ronin never wants to trade 1:1.

>>165154374
Swordblock actually blocks spicy finger (which is fucking ridiculous but w/e) and Scorch gets kited way too easily by any halfway-competent Ronin

>Be Ion
>Enemy Legion just keeps shooting at your vortex shield like a retard

>>165136195
800 DPI, 2.25 sens. Mousepad edge to edge gives me a little over 360* rotation.

>Smart Pistol
>Smart Core

Smart DMR when

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>>165165813
That doesn't make it any less silly, especially when half the titans have male voices.

>>165168963
>Smart Tone

>>165161034
I mean... you must have a very favourable view towards the campaign if you're saying that even after you take away everything that makes TF2 what it is, it still scores a 4/10 (slightly below average)

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>>165168847
>Be legion
>Know what Ion can do
>See Ion
>He knows not to waste his shield like an idiot
>I'm not going to shoot until I know he doesn't have enough power to shield
>He's not going to shield until I start firing
>We both start shimmying under the monorail on eden
>I start crouch spamming, trying to avoid laser shot while my shield recharges
>He starts crouch spamming as well
>I stop shimmying, just spamming
>He stops shimmying too
>We sit there and bounce for about half a minute, not even bothering to attack
>He laser shots me again and we go back to it
>Ally titan comes from behind and we double team him

That's what happens when an unmovable object meets and unstoppable force

>>165169272
>tfw i was that Ion

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>>165168438
>Sword Block is your best friend and lifeline; if you don't use Sword Block, you should forget playing Ronin.
>Electric smoke is your other best friend; use it with the rest of your kit to sow discord and break up enemy lines.
>Sword Core is amazing because it makes your everything stronger, especially your Sword Block. You don't need to YOLO melee in Sword Core, and it's perfectly fine to spend most of your Core using Sword Block.
>Ronin naturally draws aggro because he's Ronin; use this to your advantage.
>Against Pilots, try to be First to Fall, and once you land, focus on hunting strictly Pilots; you don't want to starve your teammates of their Titan points and not have backup later because you're killing all the NPCs.
>Against Titans, harrass the enemy, sow chaos and be difficult to catch. Enemies will eventually focus on you, which is good, because that leaves them vulnerable to your teammates. That said, don't get in boxing matches, because trading damage is never in Ronin's favor.
>Suggested universal kits: Overcore or Counter Ready
>Suggested Ronin kits: Ricochet Rounds, Thunderstorm, or Temporal Anomaly
Those are Frosty's core points on playing Ronin. Now you don't need to watch his video.

>>165169272
>>165169272
>2k17
>people still don't know you can just aim for legs when ion/scourge/legion uses shield

>>165138643

You are legit hindering yourself by having your sens that high.

You're an idiot that bought into the high sensitivity meme. Pro players from quake to CS use low sensitivities.

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>>165163112
take a break
go play something else that will quench your need for fast for a bit, maybe something that isn't multiplayer
and then come back, you will feel better

>>165169442
No fucking way. Xbone? During a LTS match?

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Made a fresh and messy meme for you guys today, keep being fast.

>>165169272
what the fug, competent ion vs legion in a flat field goes to ion for sure. he can plink you with single laser-shots and hold M1 while he waits for recharge, always sitting on enough energy to vortex shield if you decide to take 5 seconds to spin up and actually try to shoot him

@165169772
no (You) for u

>>165169696
yeah.

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>>165169572
How can he hit my feet if I don't give him anything to hit me with?

>>165169804
It was 1v1 for a while, then my ally came and shifted the balance

>>165169618
off the top of my head, Hiko uses high sens

i'm sure you've seen the clip of the reason that his P2000 is named "GeT_RiGhT slayer"

in my experience, high sens players usually developed their skills over long periods of time with a small mousepad, or limited room for a mouse in general. besides sniping, seasoned high sens players can do just as well as low sens.

there are strengths and weaknesses for both

>>165169572
this makes me wonder
does crouching cover your feet?

>>165170028
Probably, as Legion.

>>165169572
Not to mention the vortex bug which basically insta-dooms Legion if you reflect back at their feet instead of at their torso

I think it has something to do with how splash damage of vortex reflect is calculated - maybe an equation damage that was suppposed to look like:
damage = (absorbed*0.x)
became
damage = (absorbed*1.x)

By far the cheesiest titan to play is Ion: with the above bug and the FPS bug where if you limit your framerate with a third-party program to 30fps you can hold vortex for 12-15 seconds, Ion can be exponentially more annoying than Tone to go up against

>>165170028
yeah. if you crouch, the shields are protecting your whole front

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>>165169890
Holy shit

My GT's SteelVangaurd, add me

>>165170108
>playing against a crowd of Ions
>one of them always has a blue vortex shield, even after laser poking once
>have seen it stay blue for a year and a half
>suddenly understand why

bug abusers are the lowest of the low

>gone for almost 3 weeks
>start origin
>no patch or update

Is it dead? Did christmas save it?

>>165170108
> if you limit your framerate with a third-party program to 30fps
>implying i need a program to do that ;_;

>>165167620
>LRM use 2x ammo
Huh, I always wondered why it seemed like I had to reload so often.

Learn something new every day.

>>165170345
I do. Where the fuck do I get this program

>>165170294
Christmas helped a lot. All three platforms at least doubled in size. Now everyone's waiting for Respawn's DLC roadmap so we know what to expect for 2017.

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So nerfs when?
>MFW Tone/Devotion/Volt shitters are going to be left in the dust when their crutches get nerfd

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>>165137864
I'm also a high sens player, lowsens babbies just arent fast enough

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>Whole enemy team of titans stand in one control point
>MFW i phase shift my doom-state ronin inside and nuke eject

>>165170789
If Volt gets nerfed people will just switch to the CAR which is super fucking similar anyways

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>>165169647
I've been playing some Devil Daggers recently.
Though it's more fast reaction than fast movement

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>>165170789
Cant wait for the RDDT tears

>>165170272
>play at 120+ fps
>vortex shield barely lasts 5 seconds

I can't even play ion like this

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>>165170884
>he has to manually phase-shift his ronin

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>>165169772

>>165170958
at least the CAR isn't also a sniper rifle

I love bouncing traps around corners and smoking out Titans that think they're safe

>>165170958
GOD
NO
that's my gun they need to keep their filthy hands off it, been using it since I got the first on 360

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>>165169772

>>165171069

>>165170108
the other outcome is also possible
if ion is at melee range vs legion
the reflected damage instantly dooms ion and does fuck all to legion

>>165171067
>taking the kit that only works when you get doomed

>>165171753
>taking any of the other kit options because you need a crutch

[RDDT] detected

>>165171067
i was already doomed

>>165171875
You were already dead is what you mean.
Not having phase reflex is a fast way to die, anon.

>>165148110

You're fucking dumb.

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>>165136195
3000 cpi and 5 sens

What is up with the reticles for pistols, are things like the hammond and wingman super inaccurate unless fired with ADS?

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>join a match in progress
>down by 60 points
>enterfastmode.exe
>go from bottom of the board to the top
>made them fight for it but still lost
Did I do good /tfg/?

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>>165138084
I'll say this about Burn Cards. They were fun but they also served as a dosh sink that was a bit grindy since, ostensibly, you could burn through all your burn cards, all of them, and end up in a situation where you had none and the enemy had some.

I like boosts and I would say that the best way to 'bring back' burn cards is by expanding the number of boosts and adding in closed-deck Random-Boosts.

Like, for instance, a closed boost roulette for weapon enhancements (Amp, Smart, Aim-Sonar), a closed boost roulette for ordnance (Bottomless Ordnance, Tracking Ordnance, Magnetic Ordnance) and a closed boost roulette for AI type deals (Pilot Turret, Titan Turret, Ticks).

I agree there need to be more boosts to make that system a comparable one to the burn card system but I prefer boosts if only because they're more reliable. There's nothing more nerve grinding that activating one of my three burn cards and having it be perfectly countered or lost within seconds.

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>>165172530
Many of the in-game reticles lie to you. All weapons fire towards the absolute center of your screen, and in many cases, the HUD doesn't reflect this. Pic related; it's from the last thread on this very topic, using the L-STAR as an example, since it's one of the most egregious cases.

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>>165171873
>only justification he has for using a bad kit is by calling the other good kits crutches

okay retard
I bet you think using sword block is a crutch too

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>>165172681
>7 titan kills
not bad,

>>165172530
>>165172819
As for hip-firing pistols, most of them are absurdly accurate, the Wingman revolvers in particular.

>>165172902
considering you can dash, phase shift, and move around while sword blocking ( and the fact that sword block reduces damage form all angles) no, its not a crutch, most of your core gameplay is still unchanged. auto-titan is stupid, autoeject is dumb, having an extra dash puts each dash on a 2 second cooldown, and overcore is also stupid because Ronin's sword core isnt very useful.

your move, reddit.

>>165151541

I don't think you grasp the vast amount of wealth the IMC deals with every day.

We are talking about an organization that is capable of mining entire planets dry or at least to the point where the planets become unstable (They show planet miners in the art books, and fracture from TF1 was a planet ruined by the IMC's mining techniques.)

They go through such expenses like a fat kid with a box of candy, because the returns on those investments are vast beyond measure. They had a huge manufacturing facility the size of a city dedicated to making prefabricated mock-ups of buildings just to test reapers and specters.

Pilots and their training are probably the biggest expense you can put on an individual soldier, but in the greater scheme of their infrastructure it's relatively cheap.

>>165172819
g2 is diffrent tho
it will fire where your sight is pointing at instead of the centre

>>165173206
>unable to distinguish between general Kit 1's and titan-specific Kit 2's

>>165173206
so you are saying that making your titan actually good and take care of her is [rddt]?

how autistc exactly are you?

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>>165173206
>lists off titan kits
???
but phase reflex is a ronin kit? what the fuck are you babbling about
>Ronin's sword core isn't very useful.
You UTTER retard
Opinion completely and totally discarded

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>>165172681
Only died once

ez

>>165173669
I see a lot of people playing in Jap on here, are the voices better or something?

>>165173759
they are simply different, it's refreshing when you hear new voices after spending a while with english onces

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>>165173367
>caring about ricochet
so you cant aim?
>caring about highlander
Sword core is dumb, cant even duel doomed titans while doomed yourself
>Caring about arc wave
i use it to farm reapers in the first place, its inconsistent against titans
>caring about reduced cd on phase dash
you cant deal damage while in phase dash
so yeah, your move.

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>>165173871

>>165173871
Am I supposed to be impressed by these stats that show absolutely nothing about your Ronin play?
I can't argue sheer obtuseness, so keep gimping yourself I guess. here's your (You)

>>165173871
L 0 L this guy's angry as fuck

>implying can aim all the way inside buildings without LoS
>yea highlander sucks
>not arc waving titans as an opener every time
>not wanting to avoid doom for significantly longer

the real pro move is to First To Fall your Ronin with Ricochet for ezpz pilot farming, and then to edit your kit for another Ronin-fall later when Titans are everywhere to whatever kit you like best against Titans.

personally i run double arc wave because i'm a sucker for turning single-use abilities into double-use. it probably comes from my unhealthy addiction to hidden compartment.

you guys think respawn is going to fix a lot of the underlying issues of the game?

>>165173839
I'd use them to try it out but I heard people were saying that it fucks up game invites from network, as if you can't even see it

>>165136462
Agreed that slowtards are gonna be slowtards but yeah finding an equal once in a blue moon is great

>>165174603
if they do, it's probably going to be slowly but surely. i'm getting a lot of the Frontier Developments vibe (coincidence?) from Respawn, so i think titanfall will get updated a lot like elite: dangerous.

piece by piece, but there's something magical at the end of the tunnel.

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>>165153341
mfw my art hops generals

>>165156827
Get the fuck out. I don't want, nor should I have to, burn an entire mag from an R201 to kill a pilot.

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>>165173871
>EVA-8, the ez_mod_weapon_for_garbage_players as most used

>>165173871
>arc wave is inconsistent against titans

what are you smoking? it's one of your best anti-titan tools due to the slowdown.

>>165174894
>being this mad
bet you shit bricks everytime you see Tone

>>165174508
its banter
>>165174340
thank(you)

>>165173261
pretty sure g2 is the same as what that anon said. that was one of the weapons that i first discovered the anomaly the anon pointed out

>>165175496
And ? The EVA-8 is the most broken and disgusting mess of a weapon I've ever seen, any retard can just spam it in the general direction of the ennemy while other weapons at least require you to have good aim, eat shit and die.

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>>165175984

>>165173759
I play in Jap because I like it when my Ion says Okaerinasai to me when I enter her