Eve Online general /eog/

Shin'Alor post feet

>>164995504
>we now have an alliance with 2 Astrahus, a Fortizar, and a Raitaru in a C3

You say this as if it's an achievement. It's just proof that you're a group of retards that don't know how to manage resources well, and just erect structures in useless, boring wormhole classes.

You thinking you "ran out of content" just shows you never had an idea about content is in the first place.

>>164996314
Oh no! Looks like somebody is playing the sandbox wrongly! Again!

>>164996314
>2017
>hiclass WHs
Pick one

>>164996612
>hurr durr I'm bored of the game
>I must be playing it right!

>>164996748
>every mmo ever

>>164996314
I'd love to be playing the game wrong and there's a wealth of content that I have yet to unlock. What do you suppose I should do now then? I'm willing to be wrong.

>>164996934
>What do you suppose I should do now then?

You know, achieve something that doesn't boil down to buying PLEX to fund shitty industrial projects.

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>>164996748
>implying I'm that Anon
What part of "built 7 titans" you didn't understand?
Just because he's only now shitting up the wormhole space with structures doesn't mean he "never had an idea about content is in the first place"

Stop judging people based on one thing, when they shower you with dozens other things. Literal cherrypicking.
You're however right in one regard: he didn't run out of content

>>164997284
>Just because he's only now shitting up the wormhole space with structures doesn't mean he "never had an idea about content is in the first place"

The fact that he's posting about it as an achievement shows that he has no idea what the best parts of this game are.

>Stop judging people based on one thing

I have enough experience with the people in this thread to know that 9/10 times they're myopic retards who can't see outside of their own bubble of habits and prejudices.

>>164997102
>>164997689
>The fact that he's posting about it as an achievement shows that he has no idea what the best parts of this game are.
Would you mind letting me know what the best parts of the game are? As I've said before, I'm entirely open to being wrong.

>>164997876
Small-medium gang PVP and drama

>>164997876
Sitting in my slaved mach in lowsec staging, waiting for paplinked fleets :) Duh, the scrubs itt.

>>164997969
>Small-medium gang PVP and drama
Have you ever FC'd before? Once you learn which engagements to take and set up a half-decent intel channel, gang PVP becomes more boring than mining in sov null. As for drama, if that's what makes this game fun, maybe I am playing it wrong.

Someone give me life changing amounts of ISK/items please. Fore Twentay in game

>>164998461
Maybe you need to get out of cucksec and the predictable security of intel channels and local.

Is rattlesnake as op in practice as it is on paper?

>>164998865
>op
Rattlesnek is perfectly balanced.

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>>164997219
Visipics

>>164998865
It's not op, it's just very good for certain things (having big tank and DPS). It suffers from having to use 2 non-instant damage systems, one of which can be cucked in 100 ways (drones), and one of which either applies badly, or gets cucked by reloads.

It's a good stationary PVE ship and a reasonable small gang PVP ship, but it fails at blob warfare and situations that take mobility.

>>164999024
>>164999098
Let me rephrase then:
Is ratelsnek's paper stats representative of its actual power?

do all sites in C4> wormholes have sleepers?

Shin

>>164998623
>cucksec
I see how that phrasing could have led to some confusion. The roams are in null and low, it's not that hard to plan out an area to roam and set up an intel network in that area. Whether it's solo or gang, the biggest skill you can have in PVP is learning which engagements you can and can't take.

If you're seriously telling me to whelp my fleet by not exercising the most important skill in PVP because I'm bored, you're the "myopic retard" in this scenario.

>>164999212
yes, it's completely retarded

>>164999252
yes, pirate faction relic sites only spawn in C1-C3

Join broski if ur good

>>165001298
that means no wormhole cucks fyi

>>164959321
>ez isk does not exist

You can train roughly 2M SP in a month with a PLEX, extract that and you end up with 2.5B ISK worth of injectors. Buying a PLEX and 4 extractors will run you about 1.9B with a profit of 600M. If you're dead set on not paying for PLEX, setting up an alt to farm SP is a simple option.

>>165002359
Alternatively, you can use this on your main as a reskill without losing any SP and making a profit.

>>165002808
Is /eog/ siding with TEST or Stainwagon/Goons in this war? I need to know which side to support.

>supporting TEST

>supporting Goons

>>165003574
>supporting EVE

>>165003680
Unfortunatelly the lesser evil. And russians are pretty cool if they don't want to kill you.

>/eog/

>>165003473
>siding with goons ever

when will SIRMOLLE WILL LEAD THE BAND OF BROTHERS TO A TRIUMPHANT VICTORY ONCE AGAIN LADS?

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>T1 battleships are shit
>no reason to fly them over pirate BS
Explain this, /eog/: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=3681&b=7375457&e=90&t=raeq

>he needs to keep shilling his only moment of relevancy in years

>people putting 1k ISK buy orders for blue loots in station with seeded buy orders
What's the point of this?

I want to buy the nestor so bad.

Just to explore with it..


But thats stupid.

And I will be judged.

>>165009758
What is an astero?

is flying through wormhole after wormhole until you find a good one a thing?

>>165011649
What are bubbles?

T1 Battleships need their resistance bonus reverted back to 25% or buffed further to combat this shitty artillery meta.

>>165011649
Yes it is, that's how i usually find quiet holes and come back with 200+ mil

>>165013016
After a mere 47 hours of exploration that is.

>>165013069
I actually just did a 40 min run and got 120 mil out of it.

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Thanks for the misclick mr russia

>>165013165
Sure, if you exclude the 4 days you haven't found a single site after or before.

>4d
Lmao literally how shit are you

>>165014471
What, how do you not find a site

>>165014743
In the sense that literally everything is either combat or gas, whether in null or wormholes. 4 days is not real but I'm not the only one who have reported more than 15 exploration hours in a row without a single viable site.

>camp with 3 fucking falcons
Jesus fuck

>>165015125
If you honestly can't find at least 3 sites an hour in whs, you are retarded and doing it wrong.
You should average around 50 mil per hour imo with alpha skills.

Obviously this requires not dying, and so as you can't cloak, I reccomend day tripping/returning to home base once you hit 50 mil.

What's the deal with Broski North? Are they a /v/ corp?

>>165008932
300 fleet with 200 t1 bs defeats 75 man t1 bs fleet without logi
no shit nigga

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join half empty!

>>165008932
>less than 100 brave lose to 200+ PL in alpha typhoons.

I already noted that only alliances like PL, brave, Test and goons actually use T1 battleships even then. PL only uses the typhoons for raw numbers because they can only form like 150 t3C's in comparison

oneiros

>>165017839
>french

>>165012554
no

>>165021510
t. mach babbi

>>165016823
t. never explored

>>165023024
t. no sp scrub lord

>>165016893
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YaOY7_KD4U4

>>165016823
>it's not an isolated event
>IT'S A ISOLATED EVENT REEEE WHY DON'T YOU EXPLORE FUCKING ALPHA REEE
ok kid

>>165016823
>50m/hr with exploration
Seriously, I can't even break 5m/hr with nullsec-grade relics.

>>165024172
I can make around 15m/h but 50 is a retarded number made up by someone who's only using their peak gains and ignoring all their downtimes and slumps.

>>165024318
personally I make about 30m/h taking into consideration all the time invested

>>165024479
Maybe you know a secret region or are in a large corp that controls a good region, that's the only way I can see such numbers being possible consistently.

>>165023056
>>165024318
>if anyone makes more isk he is lying

Ey, believe what you want.
In a good hour you can make 150mil easily, in a bad one you obviously make 0.
I average around 50mil/hour at the moment, however I often play just after server restart.
If you don't like it, stop, just more isk for me.


I don't understand all the hate explo gets, try literally anything else instead then, you will be back.

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comfy sunday night janitor simulator
one abandoned mission site more than paid off the destroyer, now I can afford some tractor beams!

>>165025535
>ywn enjoy this kind of thing being exciting ever again

>>165025535
>9 mil in loot
>salvaging destroyer
>>>>no tractor beams
>>>>L2 missions

Jesus fuck anon why, do you enjoy torturing yourself for pennies? This is like getting into low contract collateral hauling.

There is no isk/hr in explo when 95% is travel. You are fucking retarded

>m-muh autism raw data

>>165025478
I get more money doing C2's with a shitfit Myrmadon than I get from explo. Relic sites are usually 8-10m each (Not each can), with the rare rare RARE cans giving 20m in them, with 2 empty cans next to them.

I'll keep mining fullerites, thanks. Not sure if there's a good ship that can run all five harvesters at once, or if it's worth it to abandon the Prospect bonuses (80m3 gas per 29s is pretty nice) in favor of a tankier ship.

>>165025958
back in the day we used gas harvesting feroxes

>>165025818
>>165025816
sorry, I thought I was having fun

>log in to old account just to see what I could do playing the game for free
>its literally nothing

>>165026670
we need more people to fall for the exploration meme
t. exploration module salesman

>>165025478
>In a good hour you can make 150mil easily, in a bad one you obviously make 0.
Don't think anyone is refuting that. I'd go as far as to say that in a good 10 minutes you could be making 2b easily.
The thing is, this means precisely nothing. What we care about is average isk/h over an infinite horizon. If you think you can make 50m/h (or if anyone else thinks they can make more than 20m/h exploring), please, for posterity, stream yourselves (at least stream just your cargo window which you would leave open for the duration) for 10 hours of gameplay and preferably 20 (not necessarily consecutive, of course, but do make sure to always start with the same cargo content you ended up with at the end of the previous round)).

> however I often play just after server restart.
This, however, could also play into it.

>>165027268

What do people have against combat sites in WHs anyway?

Even the anomalies in a C4 have around 100m in blue loot. Whenever I find a quiet c4 I just bring my fleet of t3c alts and run sites and since the average anomaly takes like 20 minutes it's pretty good money.

>>165028085

I don't know anyone who has anything against wormhole combat sites. They're good money and they're not that hard to coordinate.

>>165028085
>What do people have against combat sites in WHs anyway?

What makes you think people have something against them?

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tfw 0.01 isk war heating up

>>165023494
Good times. Too bad that faggot director decided to get us into nullsec to become meatshield.

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>>165025846
>blitzing has lots of travel time
>>>isl per hour not possible

>>165025958
>those relic site payouts
How the fuck?
Like yeah combat anoms are great isk, but you have severly undersold non-combat sites there.

>>165026807
>exploration meme
Find something which can generate as much isk/h with equally low SP and isk investment.

>>165027268
>hey guyz I think 50mil per hour is not unreasonable
>stream to for 20 hours den
Uh, why? If you can't get it then fine, stop exploring. I will just make more isk off the empty sites you leave.

I am not sure why this general requires literal braindead income streams. You can have those if you wanna buy 3 plex or set up a few omega alts etc, but if you want to make isk on one/two/three alpha accounts, you are gonna have to git gud at Eve online.
CCP is not gonna hand out free isk, and imo due to the isk and SP investment along with the actual "difficulty" of exploring it is the best way to generate isk as an alpha, although this does not account for personal tastes (some autists just love mining).


There are a lot of meme incomes in this general (PD, PI on one character, Station trading without seed money, etc) but explo is not one of them.
Learn to use dscan, learn how to scan shit down, learn to win the minigame 9/10 times, and you are laughing to the bank. Yes, this requires actual skill unlike many MMO mechanics, however it means that if you are a quick learner with a few brain cells, you can make a much larger amount of isk than more SP/Isk intensive strategies allow for.

>>165032121
>blitzing has lots of travel time
Explo has lot lot of travel you dumb tard. Learn to read.

>>165032345
>hauling is 95% travel time
>hence isk/hour is impossible

Is this more similair?
It's still the same assumption that travel time somehow fucks the calculation of isk in wallet/how many hours it took

>>165032420
Hauling has a payment you accpeted before. There is no isk/hr

>>165032121
>Those relic site payouts
I wish I was memeing. I've legit had two relic sites where all the red cans had less than 500k in loot in them. Total. Granted I only do my delving in wormholes, but still when I average probably 50m in 10 sites (mostly relic) it reinforces the concept of "Why am I wasting my time on this?"

>>165032554
>42 jumps
>2 mil
>"yeh guyz this is an efficient use of my time rly, as the isk/hour equation doesn't accurately reflect hauling"

It's literally just raw data to see what kinda of income can be generated in an hour through various activities, it says nothing about the difficulty, travel time, morality, or risk involved in said activities, and it doesn't have to.
You are complaining that a statistic is not reflective of a data set which has literally no impact on it.

Are you saying we should use the raw data of jumps/isk, or jumps/hour if travel is so important to you? In which case Station trading with 10000 isk seed money and making 200isk an hour is objectively better income than L4 mission blitzing for 40 mil an hour, because station trading has less jumps involved?
Fuck off retard

>>165032613
I only wh explore and make that 50mil figure stated above in average.
Do you only check sub-C3 or something?
Are you calculating loss into your equations?
Do you often blow up cans?

Haven't played in like a year, is exploration still profitable after the game went f2p?

>hey, let's use autistic overblown raw data to describe income of something so much rng affected as explo
>hahah guise 100m/hr legit i swear, autich /dog/ told me xd

>tfw planted numerous alpha alts in random c1/c2 wormholes with no active corp
>collect billions of ISK daily or whenever I need some ISK

>>165032986
>implying you can't generate an average
Ebin

>m-m-muh a-a-averages
>pls I need an unchanging figure because I'm autism and variety scares me

>>165032949
I check C1-C3 for sites, since they don't appear past that, and what loss are we figuring? I usually don't pop cans either, but considering that most of the cans have like three burned logic circuits in them for a high level hack, it's like "why bother" tier.

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What do I need to get started with PI? Is Gal industrial 3, lvl 3-4 PI skills and level 3 scanning skills really enough? And what WH do I want? Any C1 with a high sec static?

>>165035086
Join All-Out

>doing planetary interaction
>"b-but its 'good' passive isk!"

>he doesn't do PI on his passive SP farmer toons

>>165025535
I just started eve and I joined a big null corp. One null anomaly can get you 10m In salvage which is amazing starting out.

>>165036743
Absolutely cancerous mechanic, and not worth investing the time to do, particularly on a large SP farm. I like to actually play the game.

>>165037084
You can have an alt (or many alts) sufficiently specialized to something stays omega indefinitely if you extract brain-goo off them, I don't see how would that impend you from playing the game, in fact doing that would allow you to have more options.

>>165037442
because im not going to spend hours upon hours setting up and maintaining PI on my SP farm (55 accounts). I can go mining and make a better return on my time.

>>165037525
Youre probably right, your true passive profit sounds too much for PI to be worth the hassle.

>>165037725
but yea, for someone with a small farm it isn't a terrible idea as long as you access to decent planets (null/wh). The main reason I don't do it is because I hate doing it. Fun trumps

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>went on a hacking spree
>made 400m
>tfw the wormhole I came from collapsed
>only 1 wormhole to get out of current location
>mfw it's a static hole to null
Fuck how the hell do I get back to high without going through null now?

>>165033315
But they do appear past that?
CCP has never confirmed that meme, much like the rule of 6

>>165038119
find a null sec >< Hi sec connection you scrub

>>165038119
log out, log in tomorrow and scan again.

>>165038241
Hell no man I bet every single of those nulls placed a bubble right on top of any wormhole they found to kill people like me.

>>165038310
Going to do this I guess.

>>165038119
Go to null, find a new wormhole to literally anywhere other than null and take it?
With local, and the ability to look at the map ahead, null's really not that dangerous with covops unless you're entering/exiting.

>>165038448
Who said anything about covops, I'm flying a Raven

>>165038392
Who the fuck bubbles a wormhole?

>>165037525
after having a character plex itself from selling its SP arent you only making a small profit?

>>165038542
If 300m+ for 5 minutes of work is a small profit then idk what to tell you friendo.

Price change on market should be locked to 0,01isk to preserve stability.

>>165038542
The profit is bigger if you use multiple character training cert or something like that.

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>>165038537
>hacking in a raven

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>>165038537

Is the signal cartel a good corp to join?

>>164996746
I pick WHs

what do I get

>>165037525
55 characters or 55 accounts with 3 characters each?

>>165039337
55 characters. Its easier to do each character on its own account

>>165039427
cool, cant wait to do the tutorial 10 times tomorrow, I'm gonna have to download some movies.
Can the eve launcher really handle that many accounts?

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>Mega Pulse Laser

dark blood em plating

>>165038537
Wow

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>>165038537

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>Antipharmakon Thureo

>DOWNTIME

WHAT

THE

FUCK

I WANT TO PLAY EVE

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>>165042880

>project discovery at 64%

to is a long grind to 100% because almost all probes are shit and dont give a rise

can I atleast sell that shitty armor for the APs?

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>skill drain main and sell all my ships to raise Isk
>spend 30b on injectors for industry alts
>another 30b on BPOs
>put up 3 Raitarus
>spend the rest on materials and 2 freighters
>get wardecced by 5 man high sec griefer corp
>can't make any Isk
>tfw you will go bankrupt in 3 weeks

>>165043361
get mercs

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>mercs

>>165043519
Yeah, hire Moot's Last Jihad if you need help.

big/mid sized german null sec corps?
Are there some good?

>>165043361
>get wardecced by 5 man high sec griefer corp
Post the corp

Fuck no.gf

>>165044143
There's an entire German alliance but I don't remember the name.

>>165043361
Shitter

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>>165038448
I tried. And no I don't even have sister probe let alone covops.

>>165044143
https://evewho.com/alli/League+of+Unaligned+Master+Pilots/corplist

>>165039925
you can skip the tutorial

>>165045781
what about the mini skill injector?

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where's my apocalypse skin ccp

Where's my literally any good gallente skin ccp
Where's my gallente redesign ccp

>>165043361
Just pay them off.

Where are my Tech 4 Pirate Faction Destroyers, CCP?

>>165044143
Endgegner in Omist

Wenn du uns betreten, kannst du mir mehr deutsch lehren.

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>>165044143
>big/mid sized german null sec corps?
InPanic.

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>friend resubbed but didnt enjoy himself
>is letting me borrow his account for the next 3 months
what kind of stuff do you multiboxers do for fun?

>>165048183
put scouts in every system adjacent to my own to ensure that i can never die.

>>165048345
Cap align times tho, I'm pretty sure you can be scanned and tackled before you can warp out if they are good.

>>165048453
From 2 systems away?

Lolno.

>>165038223
Rule of 6 literally doesn't exist, it's retards who don't understand probabilities as usual.

>>165048183
Go explo wormholing on his account and send yourself all the loot or just use it to haul shit around or go mining.

>>165032121
>Uh, why?
Because nobody has been able to demonstrate that kind of isk and every single person who records their exploshit publicly (blogs and the like) has been unable to reach the numbers you claim. So if the only reason people have been suggesting exploration over meme mining is because you're unable to calculate your isk/h without ignoring all your losses, travel times and dry spells and you're actually getting less isk than meme mining, obviously it would be good if other people weren't also made to do such a tedious, boring activity when they could be doing literally anything they want.

>>165049378
>I have not personally seen 20 hours of stream in which the streamer achieved average or above average results for all 20 hours

What are you gonna tell me next, coin flips are not 50/50?
I am telling you my results based off a few hundred hours of exploring.

If you don't like them, that's fine. Go back to mining for the few weeks you will be in game.

>>165049218
Rule of 6s is a rule of thumb - simply a mnemonic to get better results by following an easy to remember rule.
a.k.a. probability for simpletons

To say it doesn't exist is incorrect, you probably wanted to say that it isn't a feature nor something special, just a derivation of the minigame system.

>>165050431
>I'm telling you
>literally everyone else is saying otherwise
>except literally everyone else also has proof of their claims
lol

>>165050431
>hey guys you can make 50m/h!
>as long as you ignore the hours where you make nothing, that is

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>elite frigate rat tackles your carrier.

To Saigon rice herder:

I just started uni again so I might not be around as much pls don't kick me from the corp

>>165049378
I mean from my experience I make about 20-30m/hr exploring, and that's failing some difficult cans due to no t2 analysers, moderately inefficient site scanning and so on. I think you could definitely improve on that.

If you really wanted to minmax exploration as hard as possible using a t3c to scan sites down as fast as possible with an alpha alt to go around the sites doing the easy cans and bookmark the harder ones to cleanup after I think you could go over 50m/hr very plausibly with good micro.

>>165051059
Don't worry about it fampai, it's not your second job.

t. not Saigon

>>165051139
t-thanks

>>165051072
>you can totally make 50m/h guys!
>it's my experience!
>"no"
>my experience is 20m/h therefore it's 50m/h!
Jesus christ man.
Well at least we cleared that up.

>>164997219
code it yourself with phash and python u dumpass

Sup fags, I quit about a year ago. What has changed? inb4 read the patch notes, no fuck you

>>165051275
Read the EVE Updates page.

>>165051206
>anything less than python + theano
wow, what a pleb!

>>165051518
dog.jpeg

>>165051275
unlimited trial with even more restrictions
player owned station in wormhole that can also let titan to dock in
mining shits rebalance
tracking enhancer for missile

>>165051197
>not even the person you were originally talking to
>at no point in my post did I say you would make 50m/hr doing exploration in a single frig
>ignoring the usage of a massively blinged ship and multiboxing as the reason why that level of income is possible
did you read my post or are you on shitposting autopilot?

>>165051717
>y-you can totally make 50m/h with no skill investment j-just multibox and invest 1b skillpoints!
Even more pathetic.

>>165051791
>you can make up to around 30m/hr with alpha skills and over 50 with skill investment and an alpha alt
>this equates to "y-you can totally make 50m/h with no skill investment j-just multibox and invest 1b skillpoints!"
great reading there buddy

>>165052001
Whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy. Eitherway I'm glad we finally agree that the numbers presented were lies.

>>165050769
>a shitter streamer is proof of any game mechanic claims

>>165050937
>hey guys
>averages exist

>>165051197
>implying that's me

>I was just pretending to be retarded

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>>165052073
>guyz guyz!
>my anecdotal evideze beats urz bcus I want it too
>I dun't care if people come forwardz to say it's plausibul, I habe 1000 shitters backing me up dat you can't make isk

What next, EVE is too hard? CODE should stop existing? Highsec should be a safe zone? Bounty hunting is not a viable proffession?
Shitters will have shitter opinions, and when you can't see past the fact that you may just need to git gud to earn the same isk as 10 year vets, you out yourself as a shitter.

Tldr, don't be mad, be glad, you still have lots to learn.

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>look for high margin items with decent volume
>it's all market manipulation with prices about to crash

>>165025958
>relic sites are usually 8-10m each with the rare 20m can

I actually keep a log of my explo sites
Here is yesterday when I went out on a little trip. br = blood raider

RELIC br science outpost 44.7m
DATA br survey site 4.4m
RELIC br temple site 40m
DATA br sparking transm. 3m
RELIC br science outpost 37.9m
RELIC br monument site 19m
DATA br sparking transm. 5m
RELIC br temple site 43.6m

Wenn du deutsch bist und wollen im null sec leben und ein comfy Industrieller / pvper sein, kommen Sie nach omist.

>>165053269
That is a good idea anon, I should start doing that.

>>165054287
It does make me hate data sites
But it's hard to ignore them completely. What if?

>>165054353
You have to take into account the blueprint bullshit but those happen so rarely that it is hard to get a good grasp of the numbers.

>>165054353
If you cargo scan the cans and only do the worthwhile ones it's probably better than just leaving them

>>165056157
I guess, I don't want to be an ass though. I hate when other people do it.

Plus empty site = new ones respawn

>>165056239
depends how long/safe your trip is planning to be

If you're in a comfy null pocket in the middle of nowhere it's definitely a good idea since you can just keep coming back. For wormhole daytripping it's probably less appealing

>>165056348
That's true
I don't do much in-WH scanning myself. They're nice to get into some remote null and all but I don't enjoy doing sites in them myself.

>>165056430
It's actually fine though, you've got a decent window to just warp out due to uncloaking lock delay.

>>165056838
Not that Anon, but:
Can't hics bubble up immediately after decloaking?
Can't bombers target immediately after decloaking?

Which t2 small gun type should I train for first

>>165058037
No hic is gonna suddenly appear right next to you and bubble

Bombers however, yes

>>165058310
Smartbombs

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>>165058476
>he legitimately thinks this

>>165058609
>he actually thinks a HIC could somehow appear in your explo site right next to you and your can out of nowhere instantly if it hasn't been sitting there to begin with for ten hours

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>>165058310
Projectiles

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>>165058768
>he doesn't camp explo sites in his HIC for 10 hours

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>camp exploration site for 7 hours
>lose to a battle heron

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>>165059323
>was forced to give zkill my full API for auto uploading of kills and losses
>everyone will see me losing my phobos to the heron

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>Fall asleep in my cloaked sabre
>Wake up to find the site's been cleared
It's not fair lads

How do you kill people in explo sites in an astero if it has 15sec targeting delay?

>>165059702
You have to keep them bumped until you can land a scram.

>>165059702
1. Retards will let you kill them even if you had to do a dance before being able to target them
2. It's not 15s

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>buy fortizar for your corp
>your CEO sells it for 50% jita to the enemy

>>165059702
>15sec targeting delay
I think it's 6 seconds with Cloaking IV.

>>165059702
The asteroid has a 5s delay but you can reduce it further with rigs, fancier cloaks, or cloaking level 5

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>YC120
>not doing L4s in a gila worth 1 bil

>>165058476
>Bombers however, yes
A torp only bomber can easily lose 1v1 to a properly fit explo frig

>>165060279
I'll stick with my 2.6b domi

>>165060579
is it buffer speed tanked?

>>165060579
how are domis for L4s?
I dont like the idea of having to MJD away all the time

>>165059429
this didn't actually happen, did it anon? You can tell us if it did.

>>165060579
>domi: 200m
>extra fittings and shit over 2b

Jesus christ dude

>>165060959
its shit
gei nightmare or bhaal

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>augmented hammerhead
>35mil
>augmented infiltrator
>82mil
why?

>>165061252
Goons rat a lot

>>165060959
It's OK but you have to be careful of your drones because they'll shoot at them. Using sentries is a good idea

>>165061161
when it comes that time of the week to cash out on the LP it gets really hard not reward yourself with an officer module or two

>>165061321
so they're losing (and buying) a shit ton of infiltrators? I don't understand why there's such a huge price gap. are the aug infiltrators that much better than the aug hammerheads?

>>165061241
>bhaalgorn for level 4
Thats dumb

>>165061502
Infiltrators are just overall the best drone because they're fast and deal EM damage.

>>165061715
What if you're fighting armor ships

>>165061252
Blueprints for amarr augmented drones are much rarer than the others.

>>165061161
The beauty of having so many slots to fill with bling

>>165061715
I understand the usefulness of their speed and tracking, but doesn't dps gap between HH and Inf favor the HH? I run 6xHH II and 4x Inf II and I rarely find myself needing to use the Infs, even against frigate sized rats.

>>165062578
Hammerheads take ages to move from one rat to another because they're so much slower than Infiltrators.

>Join NullCorp
>Have shitty computer
>Have to have Discord, Mumble, IRC, and Chrome up whenever I open EVE

THIS IS THE BEST.

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>>165063006
>being poor

>>165063006
>have to have chrome up whenever I open EVE

Also why would you need both discord and mumble?

>>165062849
well right now my Infs do 554 dps and my HHs do 633 dps, not even factoring resists, is it worth losing 16% of my dps to fly the Infs instead of the HHs?

>>165063194
Dunno about him, but PH locks Discord voice chat because they are stupid and make you use Mumble.

>>165063242
What are you doing? General pvp?

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>mumble

>>165063441
Tell that to Gobbins, not me.

>>165063401
see >>165060279

>>165063242
Infiltrator IIs have a maximum velocity of 2760m/s whereas Hammerheads only go 2016m/s. If you're doing PvE then you should primarily pick drones based on the rat resistances, but because drones will spend a lot of time flying from rat to rat the speed is useful too.

For PvP Gallente drones are good for brawling and 1v1s, while the faster drones are better in general because you can pull them faster if someone starts shooting them.

>>165063728
so despite the rather large DPS loss it's worth launching my Infs in an L4 because they move significantly faster?

>>165064261
Depends on how close the rats are to each other. Keep in mind Infiltrators lose 16% DPS but are 37% faster.

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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/exploit-notification-generation-of-tech-ii-bpos-from-destruction-of-citadels-engineering-complexes/

>We have been made aware of a bug with Citadels and Engineering complexes that can cause the generation of Tech II Blueprint Originals upon their destruction.

>>165064361
and of course that isn't factoring in rat resists. most of my missions are drone or sansha it seems.

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>I will use thermal drones because they do more dps

mfw a shitter says this

>not just using whatever drone does the damage the rats are weak against

>not aug valks
Do you evn speeeed

>>165064562
I use thermal heavies because they bash good.

>>165064562
>>165064719
>11/17 NPCs are weak to thermal
>6/17 are weak to EM
>5/6 of the ones weak to EM are also weak to thermal

>>165064462
Killing those causes active jobs to drop their blueprints. Blueprints in the job system aren't stored the same as regular items, so they forgot to add a check for how many runs are left when it drops, and just dropped it with 0 or -1 runs (which makes it a BPO).

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>pve

>>165065145
Thanks, anon

does anyone use the dicks meme? I didn't even realise until now that ccp had released it

Playable Joves when?
Reopening of EVE gate when?
Playable earth humans when?
Aliens when?

>>165066757
the what meme?

>>165067119
the anti-bomb thing

>>165067119
the reworked defender launchers used to have DICKS as an acronym on Sisi.

>>165067160
Sounds like something ultra boring that alliances will stick their noob pilots in
"go fly an anti bomb destroyer"

>>165067307
yeah flying f1 monkey is super exciting right since it needs the most sp

>>165067410
I'm saying that being an anti bomb guy is gonna be really boring if no bomber fleet shows up

Is there anything you can do with a carrier solo and without sov space to rat in?

>>165067307
I can see putting noobs in charge of a ship with micro jump portal working out well.

>>165067601
camp nourvo gate in tama

>>165067454
You can put the thing on dictors too, can't you? Flying a dictor is one of the more exciting roles in a nullblob.

>>165067829
also a silly utility do-everything command destroyer is fun

I don't want to fly logis because you never get on killmails, are a healcuck slut and it seems annoying and hard to do to constantly watch over everyone in the fleet

>>165068217
blob logi is tedious but not actually skillful. be sure to hold a low opinion of anyone who thinks otherwise. as soon as you get more than maybe 2-3 logi it just becomes faggot tier

>>165068217
Being a solo logi in a deacon or scythe or whatever in small gangs can be fun but yeah being 1 of 8 in a nullbaby blob is worse than being an f1 baby.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/59031763/

>>165069249
Pиги - для лaхoв! нe пepвый eгo cлив пoдoбный....

>>165065282
>pve for a year gaining skills and isk
>Research PVP and hop into a high skill doctrine ship
>Rape faces, live

BOY PVE SURE IS STUPID HAHAHAHA I JUST LIVE AS TACKLE FRIG BAIT HURRRR

Eat shit retard.

>>165070124
what did he mean by this xd

>>165066853
We ARE the aliums.

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>>165070124

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>>165038537

>Be in huge pvp corp
>People still come in the system as neuts or looking for a fight
>They die instantly
>This happens 100+ times a day

Are people just retarded or.... what? There is a ton of null no one even cares about, and if you PvE wouldn't wormholes make the most sense? I don't get it.

Also join PH they give you free ships and you kill things every 5 fucking seconds now that we are taking over Perimeter.

>>165071145
Why would taking over Perimeter mean you kill things every 5 secs?

>>165071338
Stupid high sec retards trying to defend their stupid Forts.

>>165071525
But concord is still a thing, who are all the people shooting you?

>phorde needs to resort to hisec bashing to improve their abyssmal kbstats

>>165071727
Actually bashing all those jew citadels near Jita is the best thing they've ever done
Fuck those guys

>>165071727
Hello Karin

>>165071727
>>165071931
Yeah, I mean, those tax havens were literally polluting the fucking screen.

And now we get billions of ISK a day for taking that shit over and raising taxes, which those fuckhead TAX HAVEN forts were doing slowly anyway.

Fuck 'em.

>>165071931
>>165071984
>>165072037
>all these enemies of free market

>>165071727
U mad Karin?
I'm so glad PH stomped that stupid massive leechfuck retard.

>>165072151
>free market
>>>>free

Perimeter looked like aids
overview full of 5000 astrahus

>this system where nobody lives looks like aids
So does jita and nobody complains

>>165072672
They're not killing the Astrahuses, they're only killing the main Fortizar where all the trade is.

>>165073174
What is the benefit of a fortizar vs astrahus if you just want a high sec trade hub?

fortizar is prettier

What will happen to moon mining once POS are taken out?

What will moons even be for anymore?

>>165073174
They did kill one astrahaus already.

>>165073246
Astrahaus can't have market

>>165073402
Isn't there a moon mining ec in the works?

>>165073402
Drilling platforms. It's gonna be shit.

>>165073402
Drilling Platforms.

I hope you're looking forward to having to invest in a billion ISK pinata for every moon you need to mine.

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>4 omega accounts subbed for a full year using USD

help i've lost control of my life

>>165074123
dude, how did you change the UI? this looks so much better, please share.

>better

>>165074123
dude, how did you change the PLEX prices? this looks so much better, please share.

>>165074510
send 10 billion isk to dj's retirement fund

>>165074843
sent

dude, how did you change the retards in this general? this looks so much better, please share.

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I just self-destructed my capsule and randomly received 50,000 unallocated SP.

Is this a bug? Should I report it to CCP?

brb killing myself

>>165076642
do it again and find out.

>>165076642
wtf I just tried it and also got 50k sp
time to abuse this

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what should I name my first super?

>>165077047
Mike "Electric Fence" Pence

>>165077047
Donald "Can't stump the Trump" Trump

>>165077047
"Fuckiboughtawyvern"

>>165077047
name it: твoя мaть шлюхa

>>165077047
Rape in self defense

>>165077047
Shield Caps Are Good

>>165077047
Fuck Anime

>>165077276
Goons use shield supers fuck me huh

>>165077551
Hels. Only retards have Wyverns

>>165077047
"jamalnir"

>>165077047
Refugees Welcome

>>165077047
oneiros

>>165077551
Literally no one uses Wyverns

Or caldari caps in general

>goons

>>165078096
goons are the good guys of eve hth

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>>165078380

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tfw too intelligent to undock, but too dumb to join broski

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>>165079273

How long does the average nullbabby stay docked when a scary neutral sits in system?

When people talk about nyx or hel "alpha"ing a jump freighter, how does that look or how do I have to imagine it? Never used caps and don't know too much about them.

I thought fighters are basically much bigger drones? Is alpha in this case just 1 attack of each fighter out?
Or is that bombers or something?

>>165079779
It's all the Nyx/Hels active fighters volleying it off the field in a single go.

>>165079779
fighters have abilities m8

How much more difficult are officer spawns to kill than what you'd normally encounter in your average null belt?

>>165080770
Very, the Blood Raider officer spawn will neut out a Nyx

>>165081446
Oh wow, I guess if I ever find one I better shout for corp help and hope I get a part of the loot eh

>>165069249
https://zkillboard.com/kill/57426522/
What's with all these bomber losses that he has?

>>165081680
Presumably c6 red giant bomber ratting.

>>165047912
I sure like being forced to rat in one single system for my first 3 months while 2 supers are cleaning out all sites 24/7.

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TL note: strat means blob

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>strat paps

>non solo kills
>meaning anything

>solo kills
>meaning anything

>>165079779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAx1VLFoQlE

>not soloing with 2 backup falcons 1 sabre and 1 log off logi
I'm laffin

>>165081680
>tfw as shit fucking terrible as I am at this game I will never be THIS bad

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>tfw no solo paps

How good are the neuting fighters?