/domg/ - Dominions General

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First for leaving it all behind.

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>>164991278
1st for peaceful pigfucking realm invaded by giants

>>164991445
dang

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Nth for APOYO DE LOS MAGOS

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NotFirstth for unlikely Ermorian triumph

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>>164992632

>>164993368
top kek I was on a hungover and forgot to script my cap's units. GG no re

>>164993632
>top I was on a hungover and forgot to script my cap's units. GG no re

>>164993632
aw you killed my indie siege chaff

Yo Oceania I'm taking the province to the east of Marverni's Cap to even up my borders; no designs on the forest north-west of it

Good evening gentlemen, due to the extinction of the Marverni people Oceania has been forced to act. the following lands are Designated Protected Conservation Preservers for Boar Folk (DPCPfBF) for the following provinces: Stream of Steel (40), Skin route (50), Wood of memory (49), Shard woods (33), and Tame Forest (29).

these provinces will be run by our top Capricorn officials to assure the culture and legacy of the boars are not exterminated in these trying times. Have a good day.

on another note does abysia have screen shots of how his battle went with ulm?

>>164997275
There was no decisive battle yet. He thinks I will commit to fighting his force on his capital, which I may do. Or I may just conquer all of his provinces and preach. The sensible thing to do would be to cede the provinces I ask for and to peace out. I hereby declare that I do not wish to exterminate, I find the lava people rather... funny and amusing. Also my new Hydromancers can only spell doom for them.

Thank fuck, an OP with a related image

>>164994010
Redo the turn ya dip and then resend it. Do it for us

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I TOLD YOU
I TOLD YOU ABOUT BATS
IT MIGHT STILL BE A NEWBIE GAME

BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED

How do you boost from D3 to D5 without already having D5 or rings of wizardry/sorcery?

>>164999749
If it's a living mage, you can try casting twiceborn and dying. Empowering can always be considered, especially if you're REALLY going for dem tarts.

>>164999749
Also, there's black book of secrets.

>>164999680
>modest bat expansion

Also, is that summod?

>>165000042
no mods

game creator was also a newbie

>>165000131
Oh, then you're fucked. Vanilla bats require a global coalition to beat

>>164999749
skull staff + empower

>>165000131
Oh, then bats have probably already won unless they get gangbanged by all nations at once.

Remember what Chimori did, then remember that Xibalba is much, much, much stronger as a nation.

>>165000536
>>165000691
"I TOLD YOU ABOUT BATS"
I have literally been saying exactly that since like... turn 8?
To every player
And I'm pretty sure one of them informed on me to Xibalba.

"Newbie Game"

Bats can lose to a lot of things but generally those things are things new players are bad at doing, like formations and early battlemagic. There's also a gap between expansion and massed earthquaking ozelotls where they are significantly more vulnerable.

Also amusingly they lose to elves in a straight fight, but can raid better than elves to make up for it.

>>164998246
The anime OPs were an innovative strategy to draw in the weebs.

>>165001157
But then you have weebs in your games.

Really makes ya think, huh

>>165001120
>tfw ozelotls come online before midgame answers

>>165001408
That's okay, they'd be scrubs and thus bullyable.

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>>164991278
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=AutisticRPGame
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=AutisticRPGame
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=AutisticRPGame

Autistic RP is go!

In this particular game, we'll all be super serious faggots that take our nations very seriously. No joke pretender names. Any gimmicks must be for the purposes of roleplaying. Think about your nation. Think about your Pretender. Think of how it came to be a pretender, why, and what its nation thinks of it. Speak IC whenever possible (whether that be as your pretender him/her/itself/, the prophet, a general, some emissary of your nation, what have you). Basicaly play make believe like a young autistic child.

10-15 players. EA, Summod and Worth Heroes required. Throne victory

Anyone has any criticisms of the map or settings now's the time. no bully I'm new at this

Sum1, the Furies spell is pretty good in ME since it has a chance of muting/feebleminding blood hunters.

>>165001757
>super serious faggots that take our nations very seriously. No joke pretender names.
Wow, what a good idea to make this an anonymous game then.

>>165001757
I'm torn on the map. I genuinely like Hexawyr and think that it's one of the best balanced maps of its size, while still being quite pretty. On the other hand, it also has hexes and such on the map, which seems out of place for a roleplay game.

>>165001757
>Game will start as soon as all pretenders are in.
Please turn this off so that I can claim my nation while still working on my pretender's lore. Otherwise you'll end up with like 'placeholder awake monolith' and no one wants that

>>165001757
idea: publish it on the steam group

>>165002206
pls dont make me open steam

>>165001875
RPers are shy and without Anonymity how will Ermor and C'Tis do their erping?

>>165002082
I will.

>>165002206
What would that do?

>>165002082
...how do I turn it off? I don't see the option.

>>165001757
I guess I should release newest summod soon rather than piling more stuff on.

>>165002648
http://www.llamaserver.net/pretAdmin.cgi?game=AutisticRPGame
Click the button that says
>Turn off automatic start

>>165002082
>>165002648
Nevermind, found it. Thought it was under 'modify game settings" but it's not.

>>165001757
I would join, but two PBEMs already feel like a burden to me.

>>165001757
Add ME

>>165002498
>What would that do?

beyond getting more members, people announcing their nations would ensure trolls can be removed.

>>165002689
I like that it has the bloodhunters separate from the capricorns

That said, hold off on the storm demon flying Uw changes, because my pretender atm is going to be an ascendant storm demon.

>>165001958
Your scribes drew hexes on the map

>>165002803
Magic enhanced? People voted against it.

>>165001757
I'm not gonna play but can you keep us updated with diplo-talk, pretender names and what is going on. Would be appreciated.

>>165002941
Sorry; my god doesn't post on mongolian basketweaving RSS feeds.

>>165002914
I don't recognize trolls by sight because I do not steam group, and I don't trust random 4chan folks posting on steam to inform me of this correctly. The surest insurance against trolls is to not be an uptight faggot that provides easy laughs.

>>165003042
Arcoscephalians shitpost in the Assembly all the time so will do: >>165002941

I don't see any reason why diplomacy can't happen here too.

>>165003052
no I mean ensuring people who post meme pretender can be removed and not let back in.

nothing stops a troll from rejoining when you are fully anon

>>165003172
Thanks m8

>>165003052
There's a 96% chance that you'll regret this.

>>165003172
>An unexpected event has occurred at Arcoscephale
>Suddenly the hero Diogenes of Sinope appeared at our gates, took a dump, and left

>>165003478
Dom4 Diogenes never did the BEHOLD A MAN bit though
because any poor hypothesis that defines Caelum as sub-human is good enough.

>>165000882

I don' have a border with the bats. Maybe you could ask Vanheim to take his bless stack over there instead of fucking with me.

This begs the question if EA pangea was worried about bats all game why didn't he patrol his lands for them?

>>165005052
Because that would be racist

>>165005052
"Newbie Game"

>>165002932

But it would be perfect for this sort of game, even if it is OP af.

>>165006072
Sorry. The demos has spoken.

>>165005341
Yeah. You think his harpies are just gonna racially profile like that?

Can somebody upload the PDF or txt ME changelog? I can't open a rar on mobile.

Game: FourthTurning
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 08:07 GMT on Monday January 9th

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
>>>>>>Berytos Waiting for 2h file
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Fomoria 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
Lanka 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Oceania 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received


Come on man.

>>165001757
Hey there
How do you expect us to RP?
Only in-game messages and actions?
Or when we post it here or someplace else too?

What do you envision it to roll out?

>>165007546
Whichever/both you feel like unless anyone objects?

Is it possible to enlarge giants, such as Niefels, or similar?

>>165007657
Yeah, in-game and on this thread.

>someone took mictlan before me in autisticRPG
welp i'm in 10 games already anyway

>>165001757
what if
I join as Therodos
and we ERP a gangbang?

>>165001757
Joined as Niefel.

>>165007754
I believe the enlarge spell only takes you up to size 4

>>165001546

Ozelotls need to be massed to function ideally. They get preferentially targeted by mages so if there's a only a few they can be sniped with the right script. Also you want more than a few if you have b9, so the enemy mages have more chance of using big aoes, not killing an ozelotl, and dying due to the cumulative BV.

Regardless, it's not as much of a meme as people think, but domg's chronic inability to do anything but gang up on the wrong targets and lack of skill streaming mean they are often stronger than they should be.

>>165006072

>OP
>ME

Like what. There were some problems with people layering ME and Summod changes to certain units (pretty much only tarrasques), but what else about it is op?

>>165009625
That's the amulet. The spell does not have that limit.

Anybody know how to get the pbem manager to work?

>>165012351
Whats a pbem manager?

>>165012351
Just use your email, you triple nigger

>>165012747
>he didn't hire a manager to receive and send his turns
Get a load of this guy

>>165012747
An application that allows you to preserve your sanity while playing PBEM games.
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/dominions-4-pbem-manager-new-stuff.104015/

>>165012351
Actually, anybody know how to put your saved games folder into dropbox? That'd work instead.

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AI the fucker right now.

>>165017728
Turn 1 AI? I think you'd be better unstarting and kicking, but I guess it doesn't matter with so many players

>>165017728
With that many players it's best to resign yourself to the full turn time transpiring every single turn.

>>165017728

Give him his four hours. Hardly a difference when you're on 48 hour turns. Sucks that he took my first pick and then staled turn one though.

Trying to get into this game, went through the tutorial and played a few PBEMs but still feel a bit overwhelmed. Are there guides anywhere for scripting units or what I should be shooting for on basic army compositions? I still don't really feel like I have a grasp on what I should be doing as far as those things are concerned.

>>165018278
Just be yourself man.

>>165018278
It depends

>>165018278

What nation/s do you like to play?

>>165018685
Everyone's smiling too much for that to be dominions 4.

>>165001757
How soon are we gonna start? I'm interested but I don't really have time this week and maybe not next week.

>>165019128
When the game's full and people are ready.

>>165001757
What's the goal of the game? Is it still a "win at all costs" game, or is it a "play for fun and don't end the game prematurely" game?

Also I feel like for an RP game, the map should be Valanis.

>>165019336
We're RPing pretender Gods so I figure it's still playing to win and kill everyone but maybe less formal pressure to min/max rather than use fun/gimmick/thematic stuff.

>Also I feel like for an RP game, the map should be Valanis.
I considered that but wasn't sure there was enough water. Had a couple people say they wanted water nations already. desu there aren't very many great RP game maps that aren't fuckhuge or too small.

>>165019296
Yeah but I won't be ready for a while and don't want to hold folks up.

>>165019492
Literally nothing wrong with going fuckhuge for a RP game.

>>165019696
>Yeah but I won't be ready for a while and don't want to hold folks up.
Just wait a bit and see how fast it fills up then I guess? I don't want to hold it up for two week for one person but if it's going to take awhile anyway...

>Literally nothing wrong with going fuckhuge for a RP game.
I suppose that's true but still, it's a pretty big gap. It's basically something this size or 40 province per player mapgasms

>>165019827
>40 province per player mapgasms
desu I love this kind of thing.

I also have an appropriate map I've been working on but it won't be ready in time or even really nearly so at the rate it's been going.

>>165020036
desu I'm not totally happy with this map choice anyway so if people have better ideas and most players agree on it I'd be happy to change.

>>165020382
I'll give a vote towards Valanis.

>>165020474
I'll give a vote against because it's a shit map.

>>165020849
I'll give a vote against YOU because you're a shit player.

>>165020474
>>165020849
I vote for Donald Trump

>>165020883
Then you're a fool.

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>>165020892

>>165018278
The pastebin should have things about scripting and formations. Learning to use the quick keys for scripting is essential.

You want units for different kind of roles:

>Killy stuff
These guys preferably have multiple weapons, weapons with multiple attacks, high attack & strength and you can fit many into a single square.

>Blockers
Defensive units, the job of these guys is to keep the enemy away from the more sensitive parts of your setup. High HP, Regeneration, ethereal, high protection, high defence, long weapons that can be used for repeling.

>Chaff
These guys are there to die. The various undead, freespawn or summoned units that you can make lots of. These should eat enemy lance cavalry charges, generally serve as something you can blow away with magic alongside the enemy without worries or serve as a screen for some big guy to put up his buff spells before enemy flyers carve him a new asshole.

>Flankers
Something fast and sufficiently effective positioned on the sides of the army screen, ordered to attack rear or your least favourite enemy units.

>Ranged
Crossbows. Lots of them. They hit through enemy protection.

>Big guy
Something, preferably a commander that can realiably take an undefended province alone. Aoe-attack and the means to survive lots of mundane attacks needed.

>Very Big Guy
A commander and his entourage that are designed the destroy a whole enemy army that hasn't been especially prepared to counter him.

>Useful mages
Some mages have good paths for making single target attacks, some make good AoE attacks, some have good mass buffs. Picking the right ones for your army is important. These go with killy stuff to make them more killy and blockers to make them more resilient while the blocker keep the enemy in the sea of flames.

>Very useful mages
A bunch of mages laying in the bushed waiting for the enemy army to attack their province. They jump out, cast something like Earthquake or Rain of Stones and graciously make their exit.

>>165020938
No...I was the real fool the whole time.

I am Malakal.

I didn't fuck your mom last night.

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>>165021264
>>165021409

>>165018186
In the event that he would stale in 4-5 hours or so, would you be okay with subbing for the turn1 stale?

>>165022156

I'm already in the game as a different nation. Berytos was my first pick, but I think I'm happy with what I ended up with.

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>>165021516

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3198
Based sum1won.

>>165023421
I don't see the point. You might as well just give everyone a permanently active Eyes of God in that case.

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Is there a sub for Berytos on deck?

>>165023809
>A scout every other turn is the same as eyes of God
Are you retarded? No lying.

>>165023809
Everyone decent spends a ton on scouts anyway. Even if you have to build a fort specifically for scouts because you have no indie scouts, information is just too valuable an asset to ignore.

This change removes the need for unlucky players to build forts specifically for scouts, and will maybe get less experienced players to also make good use of scouting.

>>165020382

Before I head off to GM my weekly swrpg game, i'm gonna note that i'd have joined a rp game that was described using less memes. Call me crazy, but I prefer to rp with people who like rp and not people who feel the need to call themselves autistic faggots to do so. I barely expect this game to generate memes, much less contain any actual roleplaying.

>>165026313
Well you sound like a barrel of laughs.

>>165026313
I fear it will be the usual fare, as in everyone will be powergaming as well as they can and then slap some RP fluff on it to justify the action, except for the few dinguses that will use a "funny" strategy and use emoticons in their messages.

>>165026313
It was designed precisely to scare off this stick-up-the-ass type.

ded

>>165020991
well, see, anything that covered all that would be a 5000 page strategy guide tome

>>165026917
>everyone will be powergaming as well as they can and then slap some RP fluff on it to justify the action
I do this in normal games already. I even wrote semi-romantic poetry to another pretender in my last one.

>>165024512
There is indeed a Berytos sub on deck.

Well, he's more in a cabin, since he's asleep atm, but ideally presuming the god design on Berytos is total shit (such that having some play him vs leaving it stale would have 0 real difference) we shouldn't need to restart again.

Based Alexsa

Postponing the turn for 24 hours while I retrieve the Berytos sub, and ensure that the position didn't get memed on by an uttershitter.

With any luck Berytos' turn will be done in half that time, just want to make sure. If original Berytos is unable to take his turn before I sub him out (which will be in a few hours) then not much I can do for him.

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r8 my oceania build

A4 is required for the booster so I can put one on a siren and turn A-random sirens into t-strikers. Later on, I can put one on A-random angelfish or on faerie queen for FW. W9 is for expansion, mostly, since even an awakesnake oceania expands worse than W9 since everything but Aphroi are pretty bad against indies.

Current research plan is Conj 5, Cons 4, then either Evo 5 if I need firepower or Blood for street sharks. Cons 4 is needed before blood because my hunting is pretty sad and needed before Evo since otherwise I don't have storm casters. The core of Blood 3 / Evo 5 lets me be Berytos But Worse, basically, but that's still way better than what Oceania used to be able to do.

>>165035274
Understand that without death magic you won't be leading many street sharks anywhere, because you have 0 demon leadership beyond blood 1 mages.

>>165035554
Actually, that's true. I'd need Blood 6 before I could mobilize significant numbers of sharks with ice devils

Okay, so this guy gets Banes/Mound Kings for demon leadership while still packing a W9 bless, but the lack of air hats means no storm casters and therefore no T-strike force without a national hero or angelfish - and also means no turn 1 fog warriors without empowerment

>>165035274
>20 gems per tstriker
Not the brightest idea.

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>>165035991
forgot my picture

Also, WH's siren queen has D2, so I might stick with the first one

>>165036008
It's 20 gems per storm caster. Then all the A1 randoms (A2 on land) cast Stormpower which lets them cast Thunderstrike. This is how Caelum and TNN also mobilize their mage corps for T-striking. I actually don't think any nations deploy A3 en masse in that way.

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>>165035274
Why not go this guy? You gain an extra scale or air magic path at the cost of the nature one.

Tho I guess you also can't leave the sea with him.

>>165036083
Personally I find the W9 bless to be super underwhelming, and have little issue expanding with a combo of ichytcentuar+ichytaurs - the former are pretty tanky but can't kill shit, while the latter are reasonably killy.

>>165036643
Being able to leave the sea is nice, yeah, especially when you have giant paths. The ability to trapeze in and W9 living water/niefel flames/fog warrior etc seems like it'd be a really nice thing to have.

>>165036753
I need your secrets then, because W9 let me hit 24-25 in testing and expanding without sacreds left me very sad and small. When I ran an awake, he ended up taking more than all my unit-expansion parties.

>>165036753
>>165036830
Also, what pretender would you use to get A4/D2+ and strong scales?

>>165036830
I hit 20 provinces without using an awake or a bless (still used the sacreds some)

The goal is to arrange it so the indies hone in one the centaurs, who have better prot and defense, then the minotaurs move in to flank said indies killing them with either trample or decently potent attacks.

Avoid amber clan. Would have been 21 provinces if not for those fuckers. Can easily make an expansion party every other turn with money scales.

>>165038097
Yeah? How many to an exp party? A party of 6 centaur and 8 minos die to ichtyids

>>165038175
usually 8 centaurs with 8 minos. centuars were replaced with aphroi against things such as shark tribe and ichytids. No clue how to expand against amber clan atm beyond just massively outnumbering them.

On land putting the centuars up front gets them shot at with archers, which is good as they have shields. Anything size 2 dies very quickly to the trample, though masses of heavy cav can cause issues.

Attack large enemy monsters on centaur gives you the first turn easily on indy elephants, and after that the elephants do the rest of the work for you.

>>165038990
If you can cherry pick your provinces, I can see you hitting 20 with that. It seems very, very unreliable to hit that number, though. Depending on starts and cap circle, I hit 12, 18 and then 14, and that's with prod 1 for aphroi blockers early on after the second time seeing ichtyids + shark tribe in my cap circle.

On land, a large enough block of archers, basically any amount of cavalry, woodsmen, multi-attack tribesmen, and boner tribe all beat an expansion party of about that size. Ichtytaur with a solo satyr lure seem to do just as well against easy provinces, but I haven't tested using that exclusively for expansion. I imagine having like 14 tramplers and a lure might do better against tribes and such. They stomp barbs well, at least.

Anyways, W9 aphroi seem to make expansion very reliable, and get me larger in their bad-cases than a scales + diversity build in its best-cases

>>165036830
>The ability to trapeze in and W9 living water/niefel flames
Is that really so important? 1/4 of capricorns can cast those, you should have more casters than gems to stock them.

>>165039336
Correction: all capricorns can cast living water, 1/4 can cast niefel flames.

>>165039336
It's more that you get a W9 mage casting them, which is neat.

That said, I completely missed that the rainbow guy is way better than the titan or the face in that he gets D2, A4, and W9 with the same dom and scales, so I'm using him instead.

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>>165039572

>>165001757
I'm probably just a dumb fuck who can't find the tga but, is this it?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TQ3dXYvc1qZno5amdsU3pJaW8/view
Also posting for whoever else might need

>>165038990
If you can post a save-file, I'd be very interested in seeing this. Maybe my scripting is fucked up in some way I don't understand. I cannot for the life of me replicate your success.

>>165039676
Are you planning on taking this guy into combat?

>>165039676
Actually, I'm going to try to see what I can shave off to make him dormant. As my only D mage, I need to site search with him (which feels bad, honestly), or else I need to alchemize for demon leadership (which feels worse)

>>165041016
>Are you planning on taking this guy into combat?
Not unless I have to. 10 base HP is nothing, even if trapezing out of friendly dom will make it a bit better.

>Atlantis
>Oceania

Need 3 more for UW BOWL

Hey admin, can you delete the pretender for Oceania? I'm not comfortable with the furriness of my nation anymore

>>165042838
I hope it wasn't my pretender design talk that did it

>>165043691
I actually found your build and research thing very helpful, even if it wasn't the sort of pretender I was going for.

>>165041116
>Only D Mage
W4D1 gets you Streams from Hades. I don't recall the exact paths for what that summons but I think that gets you a W3D3 amphibious mage. Based on that, you could have your pretender sit at home and let the summoned mages deal with site searching.

Though if your goal is just to cart around more demons, your national demon commander might fit the bill for less points.

There once was a time when gods and people walked the earth together. The Marverni trace our ancestry back to that time. Our clan history begins when we joined forces with Orlanth, the Storm God, and his brother Urox, the Storm Bull. In those troubled times, Orlanth was but one of many pretenders, but had with him a great kinship with many gods and personal honour.

After many tribulations, adventures and discoveries, Orlanth proved himself worthy of marrying Ernalda, the Great Mother. The two of them together created the Marriage Ring, and established great harmony in the world through this sacred bonding. Our clan whooped with Orlanth, drank the eight known drinks, and wrestled with Urox, earning his respect.

At the battle of Extinguish Field, our Uroxi warriors proved themselves capable, charging headlong into the ranks of Bright Emperor Yelm's army.

Orlanth succeeded in remaking the world, ascending to the throne as Pantokrator, and thus began the Storm Age. During this age there were many foes to face. We did as our patron did and fought the forces of Chaos, smiting Beastmen, Trolls and the Undead. To this day we hold great enmity for these abominations.

But the Storm Age could not last forever. Orlanth disappeared one day, leaving behind many of his Kin, who in the ensuing chaos fled. Some remained behind, and were imprisoned by deities of Chaos. Urox was one such god. But his bonds have weakened, and now he waits for the return of his brother.

come on, post your autistic RP as well so I don't look quite so autistic

>>165049127
be patient little padawan

>>165049431
Uroxi have never been patient!

So, was I hallucinating, or was Illwinter previously a global that was castable by anyone?

>>165026313
Yeah, people who only RP ironically are cancer.
>>165027171
>I acted shitty to get people who were genuinely interested in the premise of the game to fuck off.

I can't wait until you decide it's too much effort and disappear turn 17.

>>165026313
>>165026917
>it's an "you can't RP and play well" episode

/domg/ never fails to dissapoint

>>165026917
>you can't RP without your build being literally unable to function!
Elitist fuck

>>165050132

Real, unironic RP autists are a pox upon any good RP game. I've seen plenty of RP communities go down the toilet because it attracts too many undiagnosed autists.

You want people who are a little self-aware for your RP-games to go well.

>>165051650
Yeah, I have the opposite anecdotes and conclusions, buddy.

>>165051929
considering your idea of "ironic Roleplaying" is someone actaully trying to the win the game and not taking some lame build, i'm sure you reached many conclusions

>>165051929

Ok if we're going to do realtalk, what you actually need for a successful online RP community is people of moderation. You neither want the le ironic chucklefucks who'll go out of their way to ruin good RP, OR the super autistic roleplayers who will sperg out on the forums over the slightest thing he considers immersion breaking(god, I remember an old NWN server where someone sperged out for HOURS on IRC because he thought the dwarfs were using the wrong sort of clothes/armor, and that dwarfs were physically incapable of using bows and swords).

But for a RP game in Dominions, I'd much rather lean safely towards the moderation +casual side than the opposite, since the RP is just padding to make the game more enjoyable, not an attempt to create a super-immersive RP world.

>>165052104
>Hmm lets see
>what would literal god of this nation do
>
>probably NOT use every option available to them to win the ascension war and attain omnipotence

"RP means not playing the game" people sure are funny.

>>165052104
>All anons I disagree with are the same.

I haven't said anything about RP precluding effective play - that was somebody else. I only argued that being able to roleplay without being so self-conscious you have to meme constantly is a good thing.

Maybe draw fewer conclusions of your own, lest you rejakor us all.

>>165052547
>self aware = being so self-conscious you have to meme constantly

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you're a pain in the ass to rp with.

>>165052547
forgot my name

>>165052265
That's completely fair, and I don't disagree. I also, having played here for a while and even done RP with /domg/ people, don't think /domg/ is going to have a serious risk of a 5 page argument of whether somebody fucked the RP by using a bow as a dwarf. We do have more of an issue from the other end, though, and the effective DM using "autistic faggot" as his nom de guerre is a red flag. This is without getting into the issue of it even possibly being jeanwulf.

>>165052873

I'm not exactly expecting pro af roleplayers here, I have my own groups for that, or know where to find them when the mood strikes me. I'm going to go into this casually and play it as a dominions game with extra padding and perhaps some fun gimmicks, so the call that autistic RP is not really looked for is just a bonus for me.

so I dont need to make a fucked up god just to entertain autistic faggots?
Can I just play normally but write flamboyant messages?

>>165052873
how is autistic faggot a red flag? Jeanwulf I agree is a potential issue but Using the monical of faggot/autism is pretty standard on 4chan, not even a meme sense either

>>165053158
Go for something thematic. If that means N9B9 Mictlan to you, go ahead. If someone wants to whine because you were powergaming, fuck 'em.

If you want to go for a F4A4E5 Dormant Tiwaz of War, go for it. If you can justify something within RP bounds, go for it, just have fun, and don't let other people tell you how to have fun.

how hard is it to /into/?
how much time does it take?
i play minecraft and dwarf fort

>>165053158
I don't think it's necessarily difficult to reconcile the two. For example, in one of the RP house rule games I participated, I played as Asphodel whose leader still viewed the nation as Pangaea (or South Pangaea, rather, because Pan was in the game as well) and the whole freespawn thing as rumours until popkill really started kicking in. With that in mind, I thought it was appropriate to use "Pangaea" pretender (ie. W9 Volla) which works very well for Asphodel too even though I would have made some adjustments if I was min/maxing.

>>165053595
>i play dorf fort
You'll love it

>>165052265
>dwarfs were using the wrong sort of clothes/armor, and that dwarfs were physically incapable of using bows and swords
what.

>>165053595
It takes a few hours to learn how to play the game, learning how to do stuff well is another matter

>>165053595
>how hard is it to /into/?
Pretty hard in the sense that it has a ton of variables and a large list of items/spells/nations. When I first began playing, I sunk some 50 hours into singleplayer to learn all the mechanics before joining a multiplayer game.

>how much time does it take?
Multiplayer games are often played at the rate of 1 turn/day, and usually last something like under 100 turns (depends of size and everything). First turns are fast, but later they usually are like one hour long.

Can I start roleplaying after 36 turns if my pretender is imprisoned?

>>165054779
no, roleplay as an emmissary or soothsayer or something, goddamn

I'm just happy to join a game where every pretender isn't called BANE LORD WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK LOL

>>165055006
Fuck I was going to do that for RP.

Oh, well. xXxPantoqueerxXx it is. I'll be a teenage gay erfsnek who spends time being edgy on livejournal.

also am i the only one who hates how SC are basically useless now compared to dom3? i guess i am

>>165055209
Antiquis had two players who had multiple "light" SCs with hundreds of kills a piece. Useless my ass. They're just less game-defining anymore, is all.

>>165055209
Hey, now the game isn't "Who can rush Tartarians and Const 6 the fastest" anymore

it was never that, it was whoever got the most clams of pearls

Game: ChristmasEdition
Turn number 20
Next turn due: 10:34 GMT on Tuesday January 10th

Abysia 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Marverni Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Oceania 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received

Considering Marverni is practically dead (unless he pops up and states he still has a chance for whatever reason) is it possible he tried to go AI and messed up somehow? or is just stalling because why bother at this point?

>>165054040

I can't remember what the clothes/armor was about, something about the color being undwarfy, no dwarf would ever wear that, etc. RP police at the highest level, telling others they are playing wrong.

The weapon stuff was some of the spergiest argument I've seen, trying to argue biological differences and culture. He was of course rebuffed with that the obvious underground weapon would be a spear, why would dwarves even have axes, which are hard to swing in cramped environments.

>>165055209

Yeah lets go back to the time where SCs were nigh unstoppable unless you had extremely specific counters or SC killing SCs of your own.

>>165037042
I'd go Master Lich. If he was dormant, you can get decent pathing and scales, and also have him search for death sites just after year 1.

>>165056051
I want dwarves with trench knives and full plate with chain voiders

>>165056051
>why would dwarves even have axes
Ha, Id like to see him telling that to Gimlis face

>>165055498
Mages have just taken the place of SC. It also makes an entire chassis of pretender (Titans) really suboptimal

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>>165056051

>>165056382
The second, yes, but the first no. One mage (aside from RoS or earthquake) cannot kill an entire army on his own. Mages were always strong, SCs are just answerable by mages now instead of being strictly better.

>>165056502
True.

I suppose my personal problem is that the big thing I wanted transitioning from Dom3-> Dom4 was more options, not just replacing the best options with other best options. It would be nice if fully geared SC were less hard counterable and instead were an option that could be beaten but was also very versatile and strong in their own right. Right now, they just aren't worth the investment over a similar investment into mages- granted, mages use gold instead of gems so perhaps this comparison is kind of irrelevant, but on many former SCs I'd rather just have them be tanky casters instead of wading into melee at all.

>>165056750
SCs still have their place, but ti's in the midgame now rather then the late game. However some SCs can still transition into monster Casters later on, the best example I can think of is the Dai Oni for Yomi

>>165056750

SCs can still shit on armies without mages, or with mages whose paths can be countered easily (for example, fire mages). You just need the element of surprise, usually in the form of teleport or cloud trapeze.

What is the opinion on Summod? Are the changes good? What about Magic Enhanced (or whatever it's called)?

>>165052104
In my experience the ones complaining about that are actually terrible minmaxers and only start talking about muh roleplaying realism when stuff goes against them.

>>165040038
Yes that's it. Sorry, didn't initially realize the fixed map didn't have the TGA.

>>165042838
Done.

>>165057267
>What is the opinion on Summod? Are the changes good? What about Magic Enhanced (or whatever it's called)?
Summod has become ubiquitous on /domg/ but isn't an autoinclude elsewhere. It has a few controversial changes, but only a handful of people have actual opposition to its use, and most of the people who are opposed to it do it on the basis of it changing the meta / not having the pitfalls of vanilla that people learned.

ME is basically used when you want your game to be wild and different. It's generally considered less balanced since ME additions, as a whole, are significantly stronger than vanilla spells. Rob actually DOES care about his stuff being balanced, but leans towards making things exciting/awesome and then nerfing things that are too out of line whereas Summod leans towards smaller changes.

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>>165056051
> why would dwarves even have axes

Because between two weapons with the exact same volume, but different surface areas, the longer one is harder to use and harder to balance and maintain the center of mass as a whole when swinging. It just feels clunky. The more "even" and spread out the weapon's weight is, the better. In other words, a weapon with the thing on the left attached is easier to use for a midget than a weapon attached with the thing on the right. tl;dr Longswords are awkward as fuck to use when you're short.

.t LARPing manlet who wanted to do an odachi samurai but failed. In the end I stuck with maces which were the easiest to use.

>>165053158
Mictlan's natural pretender strategies to actually when are also pretty thematic and cool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xipe_Totec

>Xipe Totec connected agricultural renewal with warfare.[8] He flayed himself to give food to humanity, symbolic of the way maize seeds lose their outer layer before germination and of snakes shedding their skin. Without his skin, he was depicted as a golden god. Xipe Totec was believed by the Aztecs to be the god that invented war.[9] His insignia included the pointed cap and rattle staff, which was the war attire for the Mexica emperor.[10] He had a temple called Yopico within the Great Temple of Tenochtitlan.[6] Xipe Totec is associated with pimples, inflammation and eye diseases,[11][12] and possibly plague.[13]

>"Our Lord the Flayed One"

>>165055209
They're not useless, just specialized and not the end all be all of warfare like they were in Dom 3.

>>165058009
why the fuck are you swinging stuff in a tunnel environment

>>165056051
I never understood why the emblematic dwarf weapon wasn't the military pick.

>>165056382
Titans are pretty good. They were never meant to be taken as SC chassis and that was not how they were used in Dom 3.

>>165058219
another thing: axes are the right length for swinging in a tunnel environment while swords other than ones made for poking are awful

>>165058082
>to actually when*
win

fuck

Nobody even mentioned swords in a tunnel.
They mentioned spears.

>>165058264
Something that gets stuck deep in other things isn't the best for formation fighting.

I like the hammer the best. A very simple pick it up from working in the forge, go and bust in a few heads and then bang out some more metalwork.

I fucking hate stunties in general though.

>>165046658
If you start slandering the Red Goddess I'm going to kick you.

>>165049127
Still thinking of the best way to announce stuff. I'm playing Arco but I doubt people want me to just rip off the Symposium with drunken hermaphrodite wheel people talk that actually ends up being true.

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>>165058219
First of all, you are not always in a tunnel environment. In how many fantasy works does the action take place inside tunnels? Of course if a dwarf leaves his home and ventures outside he wouldn't use a weapon that only works well in tunnels.

Secondly, tunnels are not always coincidentally "the exact same size as you". If you ever been in a cave, you'd find some pretty large spaces there.

>>165058449
Gotta put those glasses on m8.

>>165058457
Wouldn't lots of dwarven weapons be specialized against people wearing heavy armor, unless we're doing generic Khazad-Dum vs goblin hordes stuff? I mean in the rather resource poor (food wise) environment of caves, I'd think the dwarves' most common military opponents would be other dwarves, who of course have all the same territorial needs and must therefore compete.

I don't know if D&D was the origin of dwarves having an enmity towards giants and a proficiency in fighting them, but I always thought the axes worked well with that. Like the dwarves hack away at the legs of larger enemies to get them down to their level.

>>165058494

Did she died?

>>165058616
Seeing as how the dwarves are basically jewish stereotypes, and the main jewish schtick is being alone against everyone else, I don't envision much midget on midget drama.

>>165058494
If you'd ever been in a mine, which is what dwarves live in not caves, you'd know that they are cramped as fuck, with two people barely being able to pass each other. Trench knives and spears are the order of the day in such environments, not things that clatter against the wall. Furthermore, as a short person you want a long weapon. If you are outside, it depends on whether it is a mass battle or duel situation. In a duel, a longsword is damn near perfect, while in a battle you want either pike blocks, mass spears, halberds or other polearms.

t. Geologist, HEMA and history fag and manlet

>>165058772
Despite Hebrew being a bit of inspiration for their language in Tolkien's stuff I don't think they're very Jewish unless you stretch.

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>>165058616
>Wouldn't lots of dwarven weapons be specialized against people wearing heavy armor, unless we're doing generic Khazad-Dum vs goblin hordes stuff? I mean in the rather resource poor (food wise) environment of caves, I'd think the dwarves' most common military opponents would be other dwarves, who of course have all the same territorial needs and must therefore compete.

Depends entirely on the setting m8. In some settings they eat stones. In other settings they are MADE out of stone and given life or some shit.

picked a dormant titan, just fuck my shit up senpai

>>165058832
There's a difference between a mine you live in and a mine dug to be the most efficient way of extracting resources. Dwarves that have lived in the same mountain for generations would have the time to open it up a bit where they need it.

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>>165058871
>Depends entirely on the setting m8. In some settings they eat stones. In other settings they are MADE out of stone and given life or some shit.
And in some settings they're elves.

>>165058264
I always thought the emblematic dwarf weapon was the ballista or crossbow; with a secondary focus on siege engines in general
>it is dark
>you are the torch-bearer
>you are running down a dwarven tunnel to siege an underground fort
>you hear before you know
>a might TWANG
>and then when you come to your senses enough to look down you and two of your mates have a massive bolt pinning you to the tunnel floor; blocking movement of the remaining siege force
>no one stops too aid you as the sound of lighter twangs fills the air and crossbow bolts begin piercing every spot of open skin
>a trio of pavises are moved to the front of the column to defend
>in the last leg of their journey another mighty TWANG cries out and the pavise bearer on the left along with his pavise is pinned as you are
>the force at the front still alove begins to rout
>the commander behind them orders their comrades to cut down the cowards
>the commander is summarily killed
>the force he commands flees out of the tunnel
>into the rest of the sieging force
>your entire squad is hanged as deserters
>but you do not know this
>because they left you there
>pinned to the floor by the ballista

>>165058665
she turned into a ax-wielding dwarfarine

>>165058832
> Furthermore, as a short person you want a long weapon.

Yeah if you're a short human. Dwarves aren't just short, they're stocky, they're "fat" and they're stronger and tougher than a human.

Using a weapon that's longer than you is cumbersome if you ever actually touched one. Spears are cool and all in caves, I agree to that, but if dwarves ever existed and used spears, I'd guarantee you they'd still be shorter than the ones humans used.

I like the CoE4 ant-dwarves.

>>165058964
When did this become bad? it was the goon meta for awhile.

I-I picked on too

>>165058832

Dwarven cities would probably be mines, carved into the mountainsides, or formed out of natural cavern complexes. I would imagine dwarves would prefer to settle where there are already extensive natural caves, so they'd have to do less work.

>>165058832
Depends on the type of the mine, fantasy caves are pretty different to real caves. And because it's a tactical nightmare, rather than forcing to engage in the mineshafts themselves, they would probably enlarge and dig additional paths to engage in the larger areas that are guaranteed to exist in order to explain most tropes of Dwarven civilizations.

>>165058857
Intense but non-Imperialistic greed, secret language, sense of superiority, distrust of all else, stalwart defenders.
Not to say all jews are like that, but there exists the impression that all jews are like that.
Tolkien wasn't very subtle with his historical/cultural 'plagiarism'.

>>165058832
>>165059251
not to mention the amount of spells you'd have just for the purpose of mining

>>165059251
>Intense but non-Imperialistic greed, secret language, sense of superiority, distrust of all else, stalwart defenders.
This applies to a lot of civilizations and some of these were dwarven stereotypes before the culture from which they originate ever encountered jews.

>>165059092
Dominion spread changes made high dominion not nearly as much of a priority so puny humans are stronger, you will virtually never use any of the Titan abilities that you are paying for (even really good ones like Awe). The best Titan abilities are usually just things like Fortune Teller or Gem Generation. Anything used for battle is virtually useless, and the autocalc makes you pay a fucking lot for those useless abilities. The old school logic of gearing up your Titan pretender and having them fight is just bad now. Their equipment slots are basically not worth what you pay for them. They are okay as casters with a lot of HP, but there are way cheaper chassises that can do it better (like some monsters for example). Most Titans average 200 points. That's fucking absurd for what you get.

>>165059447
>The old school logic of gearing up your Titan pretender and having them fight is just bad now.
That was never the goon meta. Titans were taken to get decent paths/scales/a bless without sacrificing dominion and were geared for getting specific spells and items. They're still good for that.

>>165059437
I suppose so, though I could stretch and argue Norse trade to the levant.

But my point wasn't originally to perfectly cite a dead man's creative intentions. Simply that I believe Tolkien may have referenced the Jews with his Dwarves, and original pertinent point is that whatever truth lies behind it all, I have come to associate them with the Jews, and a part of my interpretation provides reasoning against inter-dwarven conflict.

>someone picked yomi in the rp game

Truly excellent roleplay already.

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/tg/ get out

>>165058979
Most battles are skirmishes on the outside of the densely populated areas. Why would cave combat be any different? Hell, you'd just need to hold chokepoints rather than fight pitched battles in large areas.
>>165059056
>using a weapon that's longer than you is cumbersome
And yet I've trained extensively with 2m long halberds, following Joachim Meyer's teachings. Longsword fucked me up more than either did.
>>165059251
>>165059169
Natural caverns that are big enough to build anything are stupidly rare. You generally find them in carbonate landscapes that have water running through them and not enough overburden to cause collapses. Fantasy caverns are predicated on...unsound geological knowledge. Magic explains most of it, but then why build underground at all? Why not on a mountainside, or atop a hill and use magic to mine beneath your city?

>>165059841
I don't get it.

>>165060049
There goes half the thread

>>165060146
>And yet I've trained extensively with 2m long halberds

Of course it's doable, otherwise those weapons wouldn't even exist in the first place.

Different weapons were used for different things, and different people have different preferences depending on what muscle types they have developed and personality(some like close combat, others ranged combat, etc.)

But a longer weapon is, on average, harder to use than a shorter one. That you claim it was easier to master a 2m halberd over a simple longsword only makes me think you weren't properly taught with the longsword, or have some dislike on the longsword.(Or unnatural like of the halberd)

>>165060146
Yeah I'm familiar with them. But to accept your generic dwarves into your setting, you usually have to take either an unrealistic world, or an unrealistic excavation along for the ride.

Where do you guys go for games, apart from the obvious Steam forums? I used to frequent on the Desura forums but they're apparently dead now.

>>165060493
>That you claim it was easier to master a 2m halberd over a simple longsword only makes me think you weren't properly taught with the longsword, or have some dislike on the longsword.(Or unnatural like of the halberd)
u fukken wot m8
Halberd is way easier than longsword. You have none of the winding and binding, it's mostly thrusts or drop cuts, and the grappling is near identical. What is your experience with HEMA?

>>165060780
goon if you have an account lying around and + http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showforum=24

>>165001757
The lord of heaven has abandoned creation and Jörmungandr is now free. In futility, the great Aesir tried to slay her, and failed. He has been felled and the prophecy broken. It's time for Ragnarok to begin.

[spoiler[I'm hype as fug[/spoiler]

>>165060197
>I don't get it.

ONI STEEL

FOLDED 1000 TIMES

I don't think anyone on this thread knows enough about Japanese demons to RP Yomi properly. are the jap gods even on it?

>>165060780
Dom4mods, here, SA, clockwork are the big English speaking groups outside of steam, in more or less that order.

There are also various language groups, with Russians, Italians, Chinese, Japanese, and Finnish players, and some small communities on places like rpgcodex, bay12, and dublechan.

>>165061083
goon pls go

>>165061094
use ctrl+s dummy

>>165061279
Call m naive but I'm not assuming the guy that took Yomi is a Naruto cosplayer and given the subject matter of this game may actually know stuff abut actual Japanese mythology.

>>165061094
The tyranny of the Pantokrator is over. Now comes the joyous time of the liberation of the demos by one truly worthy of adoration.

>>165060946
m8 i wasn't talking about any martial arts or techniques, just "general usage" like one would have as a poor fuck sent on the frontlines with 1000 other people.

It just makes sense to me that heavier and longer weapons are "harder to use" than shorter and lighter ones. And it corresponds with my experiences, so I believe that to be the case.

>>165061852
Longswords aren't battlefield weapons, they're civilian weapons. Spears, pikes and halberds are all weapons you give to the common soldier (who was not some poor fuck sent to the frontlines with no training, contrary to common belief).

Halberds and the like are not that heavy. Extant examples we have weigh no more than 3.5 kilograms, which is only slightly heavier than a longsword, and about the same weight as a zweihander. Spears are probably the lightest non-dagger weapon that saw common usage on the battlefield. And a drop cut is nothing like a full swing, like what you would do with an axe or hatchet.

>>165008783
for good roleplaying rush illwinter

We're about to fill up and Oceania hasn't gotten to resubmit his pretender yet. What do?

>>165062248
>Longswords aren't battlefield weapons, they're civilian weapons
Tercio español begs to differ.

>>165062661
Those are montantes, not longswords

I hope I'm singlehandedly assuaging fears that the RP game won't have enough grognards that take things too far

>>165062534
We HAVE filled up.

>>165062698
Except 'longsword' is a generic term, used as a category only retroactively by historians rather than something that was distinct from broadsword etc at the time. The montante was a longsword.

>>165062534
He said he was dropping because the nation was too furry for him, so he either already rejoined with a different nation or he missed the boat.

Also, if enough additional people want it, I might host an unironic roleplay game too.

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>>165059251
If Dwarves live in big natural caves it man be safely assume that there's a cave ecology going around. Quite possibly, a cave ecology that can create sustainable tunnels. We are speaking of fantasy, after all.

What's the most collapse resistant form a tunnel can take? a circle?

Mine Dwarves, I assume they live close to the surface and have massive engineering prowess to create the supports necessary to avoid collapse.

>>165061563
I dunno, Japanese mythology is well known clusterfuck (well, all east asian myths are almost india levels of confusion)

Yomi is not even about the Shinto-Buddhism syncretism that ruled most of medieval japan's history but about a particular subset of it's folk lore that focuses on it's mischief spirits. It's very niche

>>165060049
>telling the entirety of /domg/ to leave /domg/

>>165062946
Ok I increased the max player count until Oceania guy is back in.

>>165062534
how serious do you want the roleplay by the way?
do you want people to commit to one roleplay idea or do you want people to commit to one completely serious roleplay idea with absolutely no fun allowed?

I was thinking putting all my messages in the style of Macho Man Randy Savage would be fun but definitely not allowed.

Unfortunately I'm a bit creatively bankrupt and I'm hoping inspiration hits me as I go along.

>>165062961
Except that the old masters had different words for kriegmessers, longswords and montantes+zweihanders. Montante systems use different techniques because they are different weapons. They use a lot more wide, arcing swings, rather than snappy, close cuts that use the hilt as a lever. Halfswording is also more prominent, you only really halfsword with a longsword if you're fighting in armour or intend to grapple.

>>165063106
You don't need to put all your messages in one voice; you can use a prophet or a commander or w/e for your messaging. The idea, at least as far as I can tell, is mostly just to have all your messages and so on stay in character

>>165063079
Oh, I misunderstood.

Ok well we have one more slot if anyone wants in. Otherwise I guess we should consider a start date. And whether we need a bigger map.

>>165063106
Not super serious but no, no Macho Man Randy Savage. Nothing meant exclusively as a joke.

>>165063084
>What's the most collapse resistant form a tunnel can take? a circle?
A triangle, but an arch works well too. Presumably a circle would do fine as well, though I'm not a rock engineer

>>165063256
Start Date: NOW
Map: Perfectly Fine, Let's Go

>>165063229
Not even mentioning that rodeleros were most useless troops ever. Get shot or get impaled on a pike wew what a destiny.

>>165063106
We dont' ask for serious RP in the sense that you have to impair your strategy to be plausible

We do ask, however, for immersion and epicness. Don't break roleplay and if you absolutely must, do it somewhere other players can not see you (which is why I asked to publish the game on Steam - something we can still do for communication purposes)

Beyond that, just seize whatever RP opportunity you create. If you are reciting indies, try and see how you can fit them into your lore. If you have a summon heavy strat, take note of it. it will come to you as you play.

>>165063387
Some of these pretenders may be placeholders.

>>165063229
Uh, no. "Longsword" referred to a technique rather than a category of sword until the modern era. It's a term used by historians to help categorize weapons which, yes, includes the montante.

>>165063256
THE MACHO MAN, RANDY SAVAGE IS NO JOKE

oh yeah AND THIS FRIDAY NIGHT YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT JUST HOW SERIOUS I AM

>>165063525
>>165063229

Fuck dude, I just checked and it's even on wikipedia. Even the most cursory research could have told you this shit.

>>165063493
It's their problem.

I swear to god, if any of you fucks send """placeholder""" pretenders to my games and cry about it when the game starts, I'm AI'ing you turn 1.

>>165063665
sounds like it's your problem desu

>>165063665
It wasn't without warning, I was specifically asked not to autostart for that reason.

I say we give them at least 12 hours to finalize everything.

>>165063525
Bit foggier than that. Montantes are in the same class as zweihanders, and use different techniques than longsword. Because they are different weapons. You can't use the same techniques as in longsword because they are bigger weapons. Longswords were any sword that was longer than an arming sword, that wasn't a kriegmesser. Or a zweihander or montante.
>>165063642
Wikipedia is shit for anything historical.
t. nigga whom studies this shit

>>165063818
Yeah, I knew which nation I wanted to play, but needed to develop a story and then build my pretender accordingly. I'm actually finished now, though.

t. guy that had asked

Here, decide your fellow players' fate

http://www.strawpoll.me/12068828

>>165063795
>join games
>other players join
>game starts
>"B-BUT I DIDN'T SEND MY GOOD PRETENDER BECAUSE I'M AN INDECISIVE LITTLE BITCH!"
Sure, kid.

>>165063893
A correction, you CAN use longsword techniques with a montante, it's just going to suck being hit by the hilt every other movement

>>165063941
More like they sent Generic Earth Serpent 5 and you end up with shittier RP because their flavorful thing hadn't been put together yet

>>165063937
In 27 hours.

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BTFO

>>165064060
>not 21

>Switzerland ahead of the curve as usual

>>165063941
I mean
you're the one complaining about it and having a problem with having to wait another day or so, when the admin appears to be in no huge rush and is willing to wait. And as the other guy said, if they join an RP game with a non-RP thing, it'll hurt the game.

So it's literally your problem right now.

>>165063937
i'd rather not have someone go ai on turn 1

>>165063941
Ignore this strawpoll and send link to a new one through llamaserver admin page.

>>165063937
>posting it here for random fucks to vote instead of sending it through admin messages
shiggy diggy

>>165063937
Also, clarify what flavour of RP we are expected to do on the game's message of the day

>>165064386
if the RP is enjoyable at all you're doing it incorrectly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNkVcuARfTA

Entropy, Void and Oblivion
Three of the concepts that have disturbed mortals minds since they first acquired sentience. Associated with chaos, death and destruction, they mean a lot more then that, they are the very tools the Multiverse uses to evolve.
An ancient and powerful deity, in his thirsty to control the existence, distilled those essential concepts into material form, giving birth to a splendorous and dreadful form, the form of a dragon.
Since then, the dragon has succesfully destroyed the world an innumerable times, but not quite, because its master wouldnt allow it to destroy itself, thus becoming increasingly frustrated with its own purpose and existence.
After threatening all of Existence more then once, it was finally imprisoned in a fortress made of ice. This stronghold was put under surveillance by a race of flying hominids that manipulate ice.
Growing wary of the situation, the dragon is using all of its power to break free from it.
Will it this time destroy once again the world or will it find its creator for reckoning?

Dont mind the barbarisms and the convoluted writing

>>165064243
>>165064247
Good idea. Sorry, I'm new. No bully.

>>165064386
I really didn't think it would need a lot of clarification. Make a pretender that feels like it belongs in the world as exists in the unit and nation summaries. Roleplay as it or one of its servants, however you feel appropriate.

>>165064850
>tfw your pretender is a perfect embodiment of the forms
non Arcoscephalians don't know this feeling.

I guess something along these lines https://devnada.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/drama-mama-introduction/
t. Just passing along

>some faggot needs a whole 24 hours to design a pretender and think up some RP around it
pathetic desu

>>165064872
I voted "I need 12 hours" not because I need 12 hours; but because I submitted my pretender knowing full well it would force oceania to speed up
but shit it was 14/15 and I wanted to join

>>165065142
Your forms are only abstractions from human minds.
Minds which will be consumed by the everburning banefire
All of you know are just elaborate filligrams made of frail thoughts

>>165065230
I don't know about the rest of you, I started coming up with ideas a week ago when this was first announced.

>join Autistic RPG game
>trying to rush an autistic RPG game because your an impatient fuck

you joined the game for the wrong reasons, everyones going to take forever to do turns because they'll spend an extra few hours writing up ERP shit

>>165065142
I disagree.
Your form, existing in the material cannot possibly comprehend the depths of immaterial philosophy.

>>165065360
Once it was so, in the times of our fathers. Now...things have changed. Cunning, Metis, War, Eros...they have become things whose measures can be taken. And they too take yours.

>>165065528
>>165065360
>>165065142
Get an Interdimesonal Time Rift Reality already

>>165065547
Your materiel philosophy however is immateriel such that I cannot possibly compete.

>>165065334
Please do not vote for meta reasons. If you can start immediately, vote "I can start immediately" even if you think there should be a timer in case others can't. This is a survey.

I guess I should have clarified that.

>>165065657
Question.
How do you prefer we "justify" our actions?
When prompted by another player? When we feel like? etc?

>>165065867
are you playing a warmongerer?
are you playing a philosopher?
are you playing a racial purist who wishes to remove all non-humans?

justify them how you like; just make sure you do have reason behind your actions

t. common sense

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Many Years ago the Avvim people were blessed. 6 Ceslestial angel waters descended on the land and taught us the basics of civilzation. Our Technology was unrivaled, our mastery of magic was vast, and the nation prospered Under the tutalagy of the Waters.

However, the Lords made a grave mistake, they intermarried with our kind, seduced by our beauty, and were cast from the Celestial sphere into the depths of hell and we were left with no one to lead us except for the offspring of our two. Demi-gods who having lost their fathers devolved into debauchery and Blood feasts, eating their servants to sate their hunger that they could never completely fufill.

However a change is coming, the right hand of the lord Azazel, the great Semyaza, has appointed me as the new prophet of the Lords of Civilization. He will provide our nation with a great gift that will lead the Hinnomian people back into greatness, and no one can stop us from arising back to our proper place as the Kingdom of nations above all other nations. This is our Story, this is Our destiny.

i feel like this map is kind of too small for 16 players, although i guess a lot of the provinces are tiny mountain/cave/water provinces

>>165066137
>are you playing a racial purist who wishes to remove all non-humans?
This is far and away the most boring option available.

>>165065867
Only you can totally answer that. You are some ambitious mage, titan, or even a thing beyond human comprehension trying to become lord of all creation. What justifies your actions and whether you need to offer justification at all to your rivals is going to depend on your pretender and its nation.

>>165066137
Basically this

I hope you realize that people who voted "I need X hours" are online and can send a pretender any second, and are just lazy faggots.

>>165066565
what about a defender of the humans who will jump in to any way when called upon by another friendly human race; often to their own detriment

>>165066526
To be honest we got more people than I thought we would.

>>165066714
war*

>>165066734
you can almost guarantee some are less keen on RP than others and will be adhering to the rules without being really invested though

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That year had been a queer one for the Arcoscephaleans. The thaw on Mount Cephalos came a month earlier than accustomed, the clay upon which their corn as planted turned a rich black, sprouting shoots as far as the eye could see scarcely a day from being touched by the plow. The Eleans' seasonal ravaging of the Docians' chora was stopped short by an earthquake, and then a great flood, that miraculously left their vineyards nonetheless untouched. A miraculous parade of Oreiades danced its way to the Akropolis. The Stadion was defiled when at the start of the games, the participants began to tear at one another in a most lascivious manner. The sophist Euripedes, upon concluding a dialogue that procreation was the meanest of activities a man could bend his will to, was afflicted with madness; and was found laying blind and naked in the emporion the following morning. Through every polis, mystics and philosophers were plagued with dreams of raging storms battering a lone lovely island and a beach littered with pearls.

Strangest of all, the Spring assembly for the first time in centuries broke its deadlock, naming Hipparchos Hegemon of all the Arcoscephalians and bringing peace between the poleis.

Though they knew it not, these occasions marked the beginning of the first year of the Ascension wars.

>>165067069
Yeah but maybe some will come around. It's not a huge deal.

In the dawning years of the world, where the Sun had only barely peaked over the horizon, there were many Gods who exacted their will over the world. Not the kinds of things you have now, these foolish pretenders, but full-fledged deities! The great lords of the Rain and Sun, Forest and Moon, who never spoke to mortal ears with words, but made their will clear through action. The Gods were displeased, and Summer ran without end. The Gods favored us, the bountiful harvest fed every mouth in Mictlan.

With the appearance of that false idol, the Pantokrator, the Gods were not allowed to speak again. They were sequestered in their three Heavens, and not even the most devout of priests or the greatest sacrifices would bring their domain back to the world.

Time passed. Unknowable ages, serving under the seat of a cruel, hate-filled God. Even with all of his supposed omnipotence, he forgot what others didn't. There was always a promise to return, always at least one mouth willing to speak the truth.

Now, the Pantokrator flees before the might of the Sun! The Gods have become one, all through the mouth of the Mother of Hunger, Divinity Found In Flesh. She promises that her earthly seat will run red once more, and relief will come from not only the hunger of the stomach but the hunger of the soul: The desire to know that there is a loving God.

Her name is Nacatlihuapli, and she will come. We must pave the road for her return, and make a beacon for her in blood and sacrament.

>>165052307
>"hm it's a nation with no humans in it, I guess it makes sense for their god to be a human witch"
>just the pretender making wise choices with the goal to win
Yeah nah

>>165069156
>>"hm it's a nation with no humans in it, I guess it makes sense for their god to be a human witch"
>>just the pretender making wise choices with the goal to win
A good RPer could come up with a fun story to explain these dichotomies which could be well expressed through roleplaying. Conflict and contradiction always more interesting than harmony.

Who's the more interesting character? Urist McDwarf who likes axe and beer in a culture of dwarfs that love axes and beer? Or an Elf that has adopted human culture living among a bunch of elf puritans but enforcing his will through strong alliances and threat of violence?

>>165069430
>Urist McDwarf who likes axe and beer
does he wield an axe or a spear?

>>165069430
>Urist McDwarf who likes axe and beer

What colours is he wearing?

>>165046658
>Uroxi Marverni
>not worshiping Odayla
Uroxi are more likely to eat boar than to worship them

>>165069539
Katana.

>>165069613
Fuchsia.

>>165069735
Thing about Orlanthi is there's always a clan that's an exception to these trends.

>>165057047
>SCs can still shit on armies without mages
Thugs can do that. If a mage wrecks you, you're not a SC.

As the world turned and the Pantokrator vanished a force grew in the sunken depths of the city of Therodos; The Drowned King had emerged out of legend and returned reason to the wandering souls of drowned Therodos. The arrogance of the Pantokrator to refuse an entire nation passage to their final destination had seen a new force emerge to lay claim to them.

The Drowned King began was an ancient Therodian King who drowned en route to visit his bride to be and spent much of his un-life seeking out her island home while being swept off-course by the tides. After hundreds of years of journeying he found her grave next to the man she married in life and cursed the gods, swearing to deliver suffering upon them as his life had seen. For hundreds of years he journeyed the oceans gathering the lost souls of drowned seafarers and empowering captains to claim even the souls of pirates who had a heaven or hell to forge ghostly armadas. Before a chance to act his armadas were sundered and he was forced to flee and wander again.

Now in Therodos with the disappearance of the old Pantokrator The Drowned King has finally attained the power to see his ambitions and the world will drown in his wake.

Totally not a bad guy though; pls trade gems

>>165070091
>If a mage wrecks you, you're not a SC.
>what is shatter/petrify/disintegrate/soul slay/enslave mind/leech/life for a life etc etc etc
Not him, but don't be retarded and argue about insubstantial stuff, please.

why is Autistic RP game now 16 pretenders?

>>165070270
Wasn't sure if Oceania had rejoined or not when we hit 15.

>>165070381
He's rejoined as Hinnom I'm pretty sure

>>165070441
Well either way I'm starting tomorrow.

>>165070223
>when I realize I've made my pretender Odysseus if everything went wrong
>unwittingly
this is fine.

>>165070542
Nice.

Has Marverni from DSDS said something? There is like 4 hours left.

>>165064386
>what flavour of RP
Freeform erotic roleplay.

Like this:
*blinks behind you*
*gently slides copper spear into your waiting scabard while staring longingly into your eyes, one as green as a nature gem and the other as red as the stains left when a blood slave is slain*