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>list of good comm. servers
http://pastebin.com/paW0DAG4

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf tf2outpost.com backpack.tf bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf scrapbank.me
Betting: saloon.tf
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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#tf2center
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ded
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Do you ever fuck around on certain maps and find out neat stuff? I was playing nightfall last night, and found out a lot of useful edges over the second point spawnrooms, very very useful for spying around
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>>164982626
is a joke
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Ech
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>>164982354
Saloon.tf has been dead for months, someone should remove it from the next OP
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>>164984589
Is Dead of Night the new meme cosmetic?
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do your worst, cunts
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>>164985669
It's basically the old fast learner: a good cosmetic, but overused in too many loadouts with no rhyme or reason
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>it's a "Muselk inserting himself into an argument on twitter just so he can appear relevant" episode
This faggot really grinds my gears 2bh
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>>164986097
do your worst, cunts
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How's it looking fellas?
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>>164986097
I have a furry pyro OC in the works
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>>164986516
comfy/10
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>>164986097
u mad?
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>>164986097
I want to fuck rainbow dash!
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>>164986097
Absolutely haram
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>>164986097
Direct damage reduces Medi Gun healing and resist shield effects by 25%.
Alt-Fire: Release a blast of air that pushes enemies and projectiles and extinguish allies that are on fire.
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>>164986097
14/88
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>>164986243
link me this fampai
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>>164986097
Direct damage reduces Medi Gun healing and resist shield effects by 25%.
Alt-Fire: Release a blast of air that pushes enemies and projectiles and extinguish allies that are on fire
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>>164986693
wew lad

how fitting?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MrMuselk/status/817996201681264640

Reading through his twitter and his reddit comments really paints him as even more unintelligent than his yt vids

Idk how he even got through a semester of law
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>>164987295
Meant to quote >>164986730
Sorry for hum*nposting
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>>164986693
thanks fampai
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>>164986516
Disgusting/10
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>>164987516
its all good
thanks for this anon
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Should there be airstrike+base robots in MvM?
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When will b4nny be assassinated?
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>>164986516
Pretty fuckin' awful/5
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>>164988467
>A lifelong battle against europeans
Does he root for another WW or something
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>>164988467
At rewind lan
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Made a twitter account just to see how long until b4nny blocks me
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>>164987295
Hahaha holy shit they really are all fucking retarded. b4nny, funke, klesum. Just look at all the shitty passive aggressive quips and pointless meandering around irrelevant shit. Why does anybody even watch these potatoes?
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That single tweet apparently?
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>>164989932
Nah that's just twitter being a cunt
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>>164990134
I don't get it. I entered my phone number, it unlocked my account yet didnt tell me what I did wrong
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>>164986516
trucker/10
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>>164989318
>Made a tiwtter account just to annoy somebody and attentionwhore in /tf2g/, better also put the fact that I'm a faggot on my otherwise empty profile
just end your life already
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>>164991650
>better also put the fact that I'm a faggot on my otherwise empty profile
Well I didn't want to make it too obvious to b4nny that I was just there to annoy him.

Also you are unreasonably mad about this
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>>164991790
>created January 2017
>follows a bunch of faggots that he's currently arguing with on twitter
>2 tweets, both of which were created today
IF he bothers to check your profile (which he won't because you're a fucking nobody), he will immediately see why you created it.
B4nny's a moron but don't act like you're any better. At least he's good at the game.
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>>164992154
I am amazing at tf2.

Also why did you even bother to check
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>>164992402
Because you made 2 (TWO, just let that sink in for a second, TWO posts for your twitter account that NOBODY gives a shit about) posts calling attention to it and I wanted to check if it's just as retarded as everything else that has ever come from that tiny faggot brain of yours.
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>>164992630
I think you may have a mental issue
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/tf2g/ scares me sometimes
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>>164992797
Well, coming from a faggot or someone that supports his continuous posts about himself on an anonymous imageboard that'll surely have to mean something.
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>>164992402
baloney. mge me faggot
id/tholepin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNA-0rErLwc
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>>164992630
you forgot to close your parentheses
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>>164993451
You forgot to pull the trigger.
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>>164993064
Did he stepped on your cat?
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>>164993539
No, if anything he'd probably fuck my cat like the degenerate he is.
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>>164993538
don't hate me because you're bad at english
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>>164993786
Don't hate me for repeating what your parents tell you every single day.
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I wish /tf2g/ was likable.
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>>164994183
joke's on you i only have one parent
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>>164992154
You must be someone to have a dedicated anon posting about how much he dislikes the shit out of you.
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>>164994493
You really don't, a lot of shitposting that includes hints at who you are (and it's more than just hints with this fag) will result in at least a few people hating you and still doesn't make you 'someone'. It just makes you look like an absolute dipshit.
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>>164994778
Vibri has never acted like an asshole
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Just found a cosmetic
Unlike you dickheads
Peace
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>>164995437
wow is that the beard with Christmas lights in it?
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>>164995563
Yes
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>>164995195
Sorry, to me he is acting like an asshole by being an attention whore. This is an anonymous image board.
Everything you do to call attention to you as a person (as long as it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand) is shitposting. Generals make it even easier to turn threads into a nice little circlejerk with tripfags and attention whores posting freely without anyone protesting, but that doesn't mean that that's the way it should be.
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>>164995619
that's a pretty nice drop
I think the rarest thing I've ever found was purple paint
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>>164995676
>"Hey guys, I thought it would be funny to annoy a known asshole"

>"WOW, FUCKING ATTENTION WHORE!"
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>>164996037
>"Look guys, it's me! I made a twitter account and entered a discussion so I could take a screenshot of it! Pay me attention, please!"
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>>164996221
But we have already established that that was not his intention so really you are just pointing to motivations that you are inventing in your own head
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>eceleb drama
>not just eceleb drama but attentionwhore & eceleb drama

hide & ignore you inbreds
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>>164996528
>But we have already established that that was not his intention
No we haven't. I know he claimed he did it to annoy b4nny, but it's obvious he didn't just by looking at his second post about the twitter account.
>>164989932
Yeah, we get it you faggot, you created a twiter account. Nobody fucking cares about it being locked and it's in no way related to TF2. Stop posting about yourself.
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>>164996940
>being this mad over two posts in a dead general on an image board
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>>164996940
well members of /tf2g/ are tf2 related
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i don't mind seeing the names of the people i have been posting with for years every once in a while as long as they're not forced down my throat
btw how is he attentionwhoring he only got as much attention as he did because of your autism and if you didn't reply the only other reply he could have hoped for because of his """signature""" would've been "fuck off vibri"
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>>164996940
>No we haven't. I know he claimed he did it to annoy b4nny, but it's obvious he didn't just by looking at his second post about the twitter account.

1st post:
>"How many posts until I get blocked by b4nny"

2nd post:
"Just one"

How is the second one not related to annoying b4nny?
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>>164997372
>"""signature"""
What?
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>>164995676
>"Waaa. I can't just ignore people i don't like, or people doing things i don't like."
Jesus christ you fucking baby, just ignore him if you don't like him.
Or is your opinion so fucking inportant that you need to shit up the thread even further for hours because you can't deal with a not even name fag.
You take it from "look at me being a shitposter" to "look at me complaining about him saying look at me".
All it ends up with is two faggots fighting for attention.
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>vibri gave me a free unusual
>but this guy says hes an attention whore
wtf I hate vibri now
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>>164997756
what was your unusual?
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>>164997525
he kind of signed his post with including his name and profile picture in the screenshots
non ideal wording, i know

>>164997756
same
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>>164997448
Because that's not what happened?
If you get blocked by someone, you get a message that that person has blocked you.
His account was locked for some other reason. That much should be obvious since b4nny can't simply lock the faggots account just because he asked him a question.
Please think before posting.
>>164997372
>how is he attentionwhoring
By trying to draw attention to him as a person on an anonymous imageboard. Gee, anon, that sure was hard to figure out.
>>164997581
>just ignore him if you don't like him.
But that's the point, he shouldn't even think that that sort of post is in any way welcome on here. If he is so intent on being recognized as a person then he should fuck off to some place that's not anonymous by nature.
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>>164997756
Giving away unusuals is attention whoring
He just wants attention for doing "Nice" things. He's not adding anything positive to the community
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>>164997860
>If you get blocked by someone, you get a message that that person has blocked you.
I don't know how twitter works man
I'm not a normie cuck
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>>164997996
You don't have to, it should be obvious that b4nny doesn't have the power to lock his account for asking a question that didn't even include any insults or swears which could be reported.
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>>164997905
For all you know every post you've ever agreed on was his
We're anonymous here, who gives a shit about attentionwhoring
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>>164997860
>"B-b-but, muh anonomouse"
If you want only anon posters, time travel back to 2007 and post then.
An inability to adapt to changes is a strong sign of being a huge fucking retard.
Be a big boy and ignore shit you don't like without just whining for hours.
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I bet no one would have called Vibri out for attention whoring if he had identified his posts with a raffle link
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>>164998294
People call vibri out as an attention whore when he raffles.
Presumably because they think that no one can do anything without wanting attention for it.
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Vibri is the only one trying to make this general a little better imo

No secret santa this year? Vibri decides to pay out of his own money to do a week of unusual raffles ending in a miami nights killer exclusive.

Let the guy post his name once in a while, he's a good dude
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>>164998769
seconded
he is also not unnecessarily rude or shits up the threads by blowing minor things out of proportion
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>>164998286
>other people have attention-whored in the past, so it's okay for me to do it too
true autism

>>164998758
>People call vibri out as an attention whore when he raffles.
nobody else in the thread gets called an attention whore for raffling
that's because every other person who raffles isn't doing it for attention

>>164998769
>throwing a tantrum every single thread is 'making the general better'
it's "Team Fortress Two General" not "Manchild Furry Tears General"
if you want that shit, go to the /trash/ thread
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>>164985669
I can't find a better coat to pair with my hat and stache, there's no western looking coats for soldier.
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>>164999737
>throwing a tantrum every single thread is 'making the general better'
Please provide screenshots or archive links to said tantrums
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>>164999737
Could you get a trip or something so I can just filter you and your retarded hateboner?
And get a better argument than "autism" to explain that you can't deal with times changing.
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>>165000278
>goes on to an anonymous imageboard
>starts attention-whoring
>gets angry because the board won't change to accommodate his tastes

also
>has autism
>gets called autistic
>'s-stop calling m-me autistic waaah'
I'll say it again, This right here? This is autism. Not 4chan "lel autistic XDD" autism, no. This is legitimate, medical grade autism. This is what mothers everywhere fear when they find out they're pregnant. This is what gets put up for adoption because parents "aren't ready for this type of responsibility". This is what midwest American idiots think comes as a result of vaccination. This is what kills families. This is what kids think of when they hear "slow". This is fucking autism.
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>>165001130
I want to use a tripcode now....
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>Everyone I Don't Like is Vibri: A guide to TF2 General argument construction
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>you'll never have this much of a hatecock over someone
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>>164984589
What coat should i replace the dead of night with?
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>>165001130
Go somewhere else for "muh anonymity".
4chan isn't 4chan anymore, and grasping to old 4chan and refusing to believe anything else is just straight up legit autism. Especially when your "shit needs to stop changing because I don't like it when its not the same" is fucking 4chan of all places.
You have spent hours complaining about people wanting to raffle because you find it to be attention whoring, and then have the gall to call anyone else autistic.Either get with the times that 4chan isn't the same as it was, or leave.
As I have said, not being able to adapt, and especially getting this fucking retarded about it, is legit a sign of aspergers/general autism spectrum.
Like, for real.
For real, get a trip or name so I can filter you.
Or start avatar fagging or something so I know its you and know to ignore your dumb "back in my day" opinions.
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>>165001748
Dead of night looks good, I keep the main coats for my soldier. Coldsnap, parka, and now dead of night.
All of them are best but I switch it up sometimes depending on the map. Snow maps usually get the parka.
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>>165002027
>For real, get a trip or name so I can filter you.

you're the one obsessed with waving his dick around in the thread every time he posts
you're the one who has some personal vendetta against anonymity
you're the one who pisses himself and screams whenever somebody suggests that not all change is positive
why don't you use a tripcode instead?
is your memory so shit you can't remember a short series of letters?
are your fingers so fat you can't hit the keys consistently?
are you too retarded to understand how tripcodes work?
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>>165002378
I have the dead of night for all my snow needs for every class.
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>>165002930
I like the parkas poofiness. Sometimes it just looks comfy. The Dead of night is for fancy fuck time.
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>>165004535
same desu
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>>165004535
>>165004663
i am giggling uncontrollably
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lets do it faggots
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>>164997905
if you think giving away unusuals is attention whoring, then is donating to charity or giving money to homeless people attention whoring as well?
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>>165005460
kiLL
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>>165005460
Aids blaster.
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>>165005460
reroll >>165005556

>>165005516
did you seriously just compare yourself to a homeless person
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>>165004535
Holy fuck these are so bad. I love the pistol description the best, that's hilarious.
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>>165005460
don't call me a faggot
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>>165005689
tfw actually homeless :v
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>>165005460
i have a 1 inch 360 and dick
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>>165005689
Alright my dudes now desc my high testosterone boys
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>>165006394
Kill
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>>165006394
urself
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>>165006394
me
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>>165006394
rolling for this
>>165006390
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>>165006394
i prolapsed a dogs asshole once
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>>165006394
Only took two clips
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>>165006478
alright , thank you my dudes :v)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGZOW5RZdg

Good video desu
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>>165007021
>:v
>jojo reference,png
Autism.
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>>165007596
>2009 video
Fuck yes, old TF2 guides are the best.

Music's not bad but I really wish this video wasn't just on Dustbowl.
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Was thinking for awhile and with all that's been happening lately, could this be the spark to bring some players back?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12065044
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>me playing heavy
>get headshot every second and scouts run at me, getting meatshots every time
>enemies take years to die

>enemy heavy
>my whole team free for cover at his approach
>hes always alive
>kills me instantly
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>>165008587
That would only work if they say Pyro is a woman.
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>>165009059
>turns on a dime while fully spun up
>uber and random crits
Your reasons alone is why I hardly go heavy.
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does anyone have the image with the engineer using the director's vision taunt with "RANDOM SHIT THROWN TOGETHER" between his hands?
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couple replies from last thread after I went to sleep
>>164971786
> That reminds me of that modification flamer that propels you into air as you shoot downward. I believe Valve can add another that gives a airblast jump
I think airblast jumping should be added to all Pyro primaries by default (bar Phlog).
>but Engineer LARGELY benefits from a Pyro's help and NO other class can do that
Another Engineer.
>Even though I'd love to play as a Pyro if Pyro were to get higher FT range he'll blind and burn everyone to death by W+M1 and I don't want that
Oh sorry, forgot to mention I mean the Flamethrower cone would be thinner, so it would require more aim, and thus decrease mindless W+M1.
>>164969603
>Are you sure about that part (TF devs not caring about balance as much)? If you are a game designed you get paid for it
Before TFC there was Quakeworld Team Fortress, which was a mod of Quake, developed independently by three guys. So they weren't getting paid and there was no huge balance focus.

For example, Spy was added based on a bug where some players would accidentally appear to look like enemy players, and they took this and said "Okay, what if we built a class around that, wouldn't that be cool?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNZAoIrEPpQ
>I really DO believe at TF2 Pyro designed to fill a role and it was being "flexible"
Well if you play/read the Hydro developer commentary: " The Pyro is designed to be the best short-range combat class, aimed at encouraging players to adopt an ambush style of play".
>Pyro's power is not about W+M1 or "Xd ambush"
No, against competent players it's not, you're correct. But it was never designed to be Sentry-protecting and Uber-stalling, is my point. Pyro came to be on a whim, and the TF2 devs (rather than scrapping a class people were familiar with) tried to fit it into the game as best they could. Its current gameplay role emerged entirely by accident when airblast was tacked on.
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>>165007596
Fuck yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGIISxhYRYE
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>>165011431
Evildaedalus made great videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxodkFM8N1U
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sexy fortress 2
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https://b.catgirlsare.sexy/b2Y4.txt
Here's that meme bind thing from last thread.
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To the anon who won the roll in the previous thread, sorry for not posting it, got pretty busy.
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>>165014918
Can't wake up.
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>>165014918
My clock broke
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>>165014918
Nakadashi as well since you're here
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>>165014918
I'm not a somnophiliac
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>>165014918
And make sure you hit the prostate too
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>>165014918
And please be gentle, senpai desu
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>>165014918
7
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>>165014918
Stop letting me sleep outside.
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>>165014918
Nigger's tongue my anus
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>>165014918
I keep huge dildos in this backpack.
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>>165014918
i can fit this entire backpack in my rectum
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>>165014918
Shit, my snickers all melted.
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When did this new UI come out?
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>>165014918
poot spencer out
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>>165014918
I smuggle drugs in my butt. The backpack is a distraction.
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>b4nny competitive autism versus FUNKe unironic, pure autism

rooting for b4nny desu. At least he gives a shit about the game
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>>165014918
Me cago en ti en tu mama y en toda tu familia hijo de las remil putas xdxdxdxdxd .vvvvvvv #hailgrase XDD.
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only decent tf2 streamer
https://youtu.be/qBTElS4SIg0
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>"Competitive system" that disregards any individual skill or effort.
Valve was about 3 years too late to start trying to get involved with the comp scene. No wonder after pandering to the bottom of the barrel retarded casual players they're losing everything to overcrutch.
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>>165004535
Medic is kill is a 10/10 name+desc combo tho
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>tfw no edgy anime to watch
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>>165020690
Have you tried Danganronpa or Elfin Leid.
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>>165020690
tokyo ghoul
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>>165020690
soul eater
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TF2 IS DEAD UNTIL WE GET A DAB TAUNT
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Is he right?
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>>165022407
>>165022407
>>165022407
>>165022407
>>165022407
>>165022407
yasssss queennnnnnnnnnnnn
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I say 5 years until they fix the game to make it playable again

>>165007596
Holy shit and i just follow him on twitch, didnt knew he had that many years playing the game.
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>>165022549
B4nny is a whiny faggot, but he's correct. The defeatist attitude of the rest of the fags who play comp is really tiring at this point. Valve listens to b4nny. b4nny knows what changes are good for tf2. Sounds alright to me.

Also, FUNKe is the biggest asswipe TF2 youtuber. He thrown an autistic fit that he didn't get into the overwatch beta merely based of being a tf2 youtuber
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>>165023038
Oh don't get me wrong funke's a colossal retard too but b4nny keeps on getting progressively further up his own ass.
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>>165023315
>b4nny is up his own ass

ya but at least he's fixing stupid bullshit by making good suggestions to valve. No skin off my back
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>>165023390
>ya but at least he's fixing stupid bullshit by making good suggestions to valve.
Wasn't mym his suggestion? Has he made any actually good suggestions?
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>>165023442
they were going to buff the reserve shooter. He told them to not do that
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>>165023561
I suppose, but "telling Valve to not make retarded decisions" isn't exactly "making good suggestions" himself
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https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/2/2e/Demoman_autodejectedtie04.wav?t=20100625221757
Post favourite voice lines
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>>165023591
Okay, let me put it like this. His personality disorder has no relation to his understanding and knowledge of the game. People often attack his personality when b4nny makes a suggestion or gives his opinion on a certain part of the game. So in this twitter spat he had with youtubers here >>165022549, b4nny is correct.

b4nny said that a big balance update was coming, and that to improve the game and give proper feedback, they would need to test the big balance changes. FUNKe sperged out and said how much he hated valve, which is fucking irrelevant. B4nny is right, whether or not you like his personality. Just test the changes, because now valve is doing shit.
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>>165024065
>b4nny said that a big balance update was coming, and that to improve the game and give proper feedback, they would need to test the big balance changes.
Hasn't he been saying this for like a year though?
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>>165024176
what is your point? both the tough break and the mym update had better than normal balance changes, and b4nny influenced both of those updates
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>>165024276
i didnt know benny, who cares im not pressing a number to spell his name, had something to do with the tough break update balance changes
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>>165024276
>both the tough break and the mym update had better than normal balance changes
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>>165024276
MyM was shit, but they did fix Engi

Tough Break and Gun Mettle both had some of the best balance changes within the past few years.
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>>165024417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pZgph_ZaU
https://youtu.be/XFFi_IDGPLk?t=28m10s

>>165024437
pyro actually burning people, flanking with gamesense, and using DM to survive to do more damage got buffed. puff n sting horseshit got nerfed. see the videos I posted above
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>>165024774
>pyro actually burning people, flanking with gamesense, and using DM to survive to do more damage got buffed.
Not really, not to mention pyro has always been the weakest class in the game (despite being an "offense" class).

The only reason puff n sting existed was because it was the only way to kill people as a pyro.

Why on earth does b4nny even talk about the pyro, I thought he was a 6s fag.
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>>165024774
banny stop shilling yourself here it's kind of pathetic
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>>165024976
His flame particle damage was buffed. The time to execute an airblast + flareshot combo was increased. The burning got buffed, the combo'ing got nerfed.
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>>165025195
>His flame particle damage was buffed.
Yea, too bad he's still a joke class.

Again, "The only reason puff n sting existed was because it was the only way to kill people as a pyro."

Now they don't even have that so you might as well not play them unless you want to be an engi pet or designated uber blocker
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>all these people complaining that pyro sux because some comp player says it does in a competitive environment
>can roll pubs as pyro the easiest

Going backburner pyro and running into people with my brain turned off is one of the most relaxing ways to play tf2.
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>>165025289
shit's not going to change overnight. It's a step in the right direction, that's all.
pyro killing people with the flamethrower was nerfed because pyro was shitting on noobs. The airblast was added in turn to alleviate some of pyro's issues when dealing with soldiers. that was back in 2008, but it's the current year now. People got better at the game.

The airblast is a shitty mechanic. Literal trash. The flamethrower has the potential, just the potential, to be a good weapon.
Consider the following: pyro has no airblast.

He has to have positional skill to get close. He has to have good DM to stay alive as long as possible. These are good TF2 gameplay features. These should be encouraged and buffed. Allowing a pyro to come within combat range of you punishes you with afterburn, so even if you kill him, this short-ranged character continues to deal damage simply by getting close enough. Every class has this sort of skill concerning positioning, but pyro (without the airblast) is one of the classes that takes a bit more of it than most. He also must have good DM to deal more damage

These are working elements in TF2, and valve was right to buff them. The airblast will never work in this game, and should have never been added
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>>165025879
>The airblast will never work in this game, and should have never been added
I mean, you're not technically wrong that if valve made the pyro less of a joke class the airblast wouldn't have been necessary, but even regardless of that it's a good counter to ubers and people spamming rockets and pills

But it's 2017, nearly a decade after the game's release, and Valve is at a historic low for giving a single shit about anything to do with the game. They aren't going to take a 180 and suddenly make the pyro a real class.

Forgive me for comparing to overwatch but after ~9 months of the game being out they took the absolute weakest class in the game (weaker than pyro's ever been, even) and made her useful, even viable in a lot of situations.

Funnily enough, people that get killed by both always cry about W+M1
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>>165025781
Kurt Cobain's Print Screen key
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>>165026231
>but even regardless of that it's a good counter to ubers and people spamming rockets and pills

and that's not a good thing. A medic has to stay alive and be an effective healer for 40 seconds to get an uber. Having it negated by some autist spamming M2 is dumb. Ubers were meant to be difficult, but rewarding to get and be able to break stalemates at chokepoints. Nobody who is remotely familiar with serious tf2 gameplay likes airblast negating ubers.
Go ahead, ask anyone in the comp scene. Even pyro mains don't like it.

Also, pills and rockets are meant to be strong in chokepoints, and require consistent ammo. These are working, healthy gameplay features of TF2, just like the uber. spitting in the face of those things isn't good. It's bad. Why the fuck do I have to explain this? Go to any forum, any pro, any streamer and they'll say the same thing, INCLUDING PYRO MAINS.

>But it's 2017, nearly a decade after the game's release, and Valve is at a historic low for giving a single shit about anything to do with the game. They aren't going to take a 180 and suddenly make the pyro a real class.

Did you forget about the 7, possibly 8 month absence of big updates because of the incoming pyro rework?

>Forgive me for comparing to overwatch but after ~9 months of the game being out they took the absolute weakest class in the game (weaker than pyro's ever been, even) and made her useful, even viable in a lot of situations

Good. blizzard is making balance changes. You'll notice that symetra wasn't working, so she was redesigned because she was fundamentally flawed, kind of like the pyro.
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>>165026752
>Ubers were meant to be difficult, but rewarding to get and be able to break stalemates at chokepoints.
Ubers have never been that difficult, you heal a person (and try not to die) and then you get shiny for a while and kill everything. The only counter to that before the airblast was another uber, which is just kind of shitty gameplay.

If the pyro is negating the uber than just kill the pyro during / before the pop.

>Did you forget about the 7, possibly 8 month absence of big updates because of the incoming pyro rework?
I honestly don't believe anything good will come of the pyro rework, but if they somehow manage to not fuck it up then I'll be happy.

>You'll notice that symetra wasn't working, so she was redesigned because she was fundamentally flawed, kind of like the pyro.
Yes, and valve never really got around to fixing them. Airblast was just a patch up job to something they should have seriously fixed back when they actually cared about the game.
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>>165025781
Yur an retard
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>>165025781
how 2 prtscr as rifler
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>>165025781
Was getting caught part of your plan?
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>>165025781
Im legally retarded and can't into screenshots
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>>165025781
re >>165026695
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>>165025781
I'm a massive and complete faggot
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>>165025781
Cheer Spreader 9000
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ded game
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>>165025781
Pinkie Pie's Party Cannon
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>>165025781
Sniperino Dooper
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here ya go, im being retarded as usual

:(
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>Pub server
>Spy
>Ephemeral Rift's latest video
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>>165030071
I shove this rifle up my ass.
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>>165025781
Long Barrel Vice
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-41_zHWIJU

nerf inc
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>>165030071
The Rooty Tooty Shooty Gun
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>>165030071
That's better

The Ambassador

>>165030137
>Ephemeral Rift
Patrician taste, sir
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>>165030071
Non-festive DirtCat Sniper Rifle
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>>165030071
b4nni's own astralium sniper rivfl
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>>165030071
M82A1 SASR Christmas Edition
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>>165025781
How do I screenshot?
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>>165030071
Painis Cupcake's Own Sniper Rifle
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>>165030071
I figured out how to take a screenshot.
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>>165030071
>>165031569
R O A S T E D
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S
T
E
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>>165031569
this made me laugh anon.

alright. time for its' horrendous description.
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>>165031868
Turns out its really fucking easy.
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>>165031868
I stick lights in my ass
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>>165031868
Next I'm going to learn how to find non shit items.
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>>165031868
It was pretty easy. Flew way over my head the first time.
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>>165031868
I GOT FUCKING ROASTED AT 4CHAN.ORG/VG/ ON /TF2G/
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>>165031868
Its literally 1 button. Who knew?
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>>165031868
Get your lol on at meatspin.com
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>>165031868
>>165032306
FUCKING DOUBLE ROASTED MY NIGGA YOU SLEEP LAMAAAAAOOOOOOO
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>>165032306
thanks for the laughs, fellow basement dwellers.

i'll see y'all around. ;)
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>>165032616
That's the kinda soldier I enjoy shotgunning out the air.
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>2 keys 8 refined
How do I get to a damn unusual
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>>165033398
Spend money.
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>>165033398
You add 40 usd to your steam account and buy on off the scm
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>>165033509
>>165033515
w/o spending money >:l
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>>165033557
w/o spending money you eat my shit
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>>165033054
I rarely rocket jump though :^) and when I do it's not for the shovel...

I just play on no random crit servers so the shovel is a straight upgrade
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>>165033557
You don't without turning into a complete jew.
And even then one can only jew so hard.
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>>165033616
Black box / Conch crutch though.
Just throw a hearts medic pocket bf on there and become full pubstar.
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2 keys + 33 refined now

what do I do now
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>>165034886
give it to me
this is a stickup
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>>165034886
hang yourself
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>>165034886
get the best unusual
a bills hat
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Anyone have a strange santa bird for sale I don't wanna buy off the market
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>>165039179
https://marketplace.tf/
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>>165039684
They don't have any stranges
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>>165039746
Then i don't know what do you mean by santa's beard.
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>>165039916
I said bird not beard.

Strange Santarchimedes
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>>165039965
why would you want this thing?
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>>165040101
because I love birds and I love christmas shit

I was just gonna get a normal one but a strange one didn't seem like that much more but then i forgot market has weird taxes
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>>165040179


I only have 1 strange birb and the rest are normal... I don't even know what to do with them all
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>>165040361
Were you the guy who unboxed a shitload of things a little while ago? Can I get one of the birds, spy hat, and glasses?
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>>165040583
I wasn't that dude, I just bought a shit ton of those boxes from the store and unboxed them because I wanted that cool reindeer hat and engie backpack, and I got both, in strange quality too!

when I wanted them they weren't on the community market/were untradeable
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>>165025781
I'm playing without a keyboard
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>>165042228
https://youtu.be/CkZgw-fx2MQ
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>play over 1000 hours
>found 1, maybe 2 hats EVER
how is valve so jew, even in this dying age?
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>>165043357
>5000+ hours
>found hats(except gibus): 0
golly gee
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>>165043357
Drop hats are comically cheap, they've mattered fuck all since trading came out.
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>>165043357
>1055 hours
Hats: 0
Misc: 0
Description Tags: 4
Name Tags: 1
Unique Weapons: all of them

Quit your bitching and just craft some metal for a modest pile of hat
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How do we stop Vibri from attention whoring?
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>>165045821
No one is talking about pancakes
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>>165045873
What?
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>>165045873
i kekked
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You guys actually still play this game...seriously?
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>>165046489
Of course not, i fuck around with dumb loadouts and have fun watching pub hijinks
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>>165046489
Jesus, you are right!
I just realised this game is old, and thus I hate it!

I must latch onto the cool new game, Overwatch! Its newer and this more fun!
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>>165043357
I have crafted about thirty hats per year you little shit. Stop complaining that youre not getting free pixels that don't impact gameplay
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>>165046489
>go to chess tournament
>You guys actually still play this game...seriously?
wait why did I reply
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>>165023390
oh yes , thank you b4nny, thank you so much for -no highlander, no matchmaking, no report or vote system in comp, only adding muh scout maps to the game like fucking sunshine
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>>165024774
were still reeling from the fucking spy speed buff, made a good crutch DR spy so fast he cant leave the entire area before he even enters bumpable time in his DR
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>>165047925
Sunshine is also a good Heavy map. Loads of good holding spots
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>>165047925
>-no highlander
not him but HL would never work in soloqueue matchmaking, it already takes long enough to match 6 people together without them abandoning, let alone 9
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raffle?
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>>165047356
>comparing tf2 a game made for children under the age of 12
>with chess a deliberate, intelligent game for adults

Jesus...
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>>165048559
>a game designed around reactions and quick decision making
>versus a solved game that's centuries old
Really makes you think
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>>165032616
>painting anything pink
I want this meme to stop.
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>>165004223
>Parka with Warpig
Muh nigga, the only difference is I use them with Coldfront Curbstomper.
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>>165048559
>under the age of 12
>...
now this right here
it makes you think for a bit
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Is he right?
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>>165048493
Sure
http://tf2r.com/k02rjc9.html
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i miss the times when mvm was a new thing and no one knew anything about it
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>>165048829
this meme will never die
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Overwatch is TF2 expect all motor skill is handled by the game and almost every class has their own version of Pyro's airblast and Scout's Sandman.
Also there's a clusterfuck of skins so class recognition is screwed
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>>165050807
They all have pretty distinct shapes Anon, it's not that hard.
Only like two classes have an airblast and only one has a sandman.
But yeah everything that's not aim, gamesense, and positioning is handled by the game.
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When does the mann co sale end?
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>>165050807
its also a lot more reliant on ability spam and ult farming
some people will literally outright ignore the objective/big threat if it means they wont get to fill their ult while doing it
games are determined by who pressed q better and the meta is more boring than tf2
if in tf2 4/9 to 5/9 classes can be used for serious competitive play, only like 6/23 of the heroes determine the meta and going anything else is the equivalent of going spy in a 6's game
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>>165051212
spy is fucking good in 6s though
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>>165051073
not him, but while I would say you are correct in OW silhouettes being reasonably distinct, Overwatch has many other issues with visibility or visual clutter that hamper seeing what classes enemies are
> large areas of the map which are in deep shadow, preventing you from seeing the enemy's class properly. Every TF2 map by comparison is well-lit, even night maps. Pic related; compare that to Pipeline in TF2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXgCQmJPSUc
>massive viewmodels that take up as much as 1/3 of the screen (eg Torbjorn)
>every fucking thing in the game emits a massive glow, there's lens flare, there's multiple elements of particle clutter
>a Call of Duty style large red border that encroaches on your field of vision when you take damage, players only have an outline rather than being the colour of their team, and all its explosions and even hitscan attacks are heavily opaque-- which all actively prevents the player from actually fucking seeing what's going on
>STUNNED!!!! in the middle of the screen and a stupid view-obscuring effect
>Kill achieved!!! in the middle of the screen, instead of putting it in the killfeed out of the way
>hundreds of anti-healing or healing crosses in your field of vision every time something happens because Blizz is convinced their players are too retarded to tell they're being healed
>>165051293
again not him but spy is only good for 1-2 uses, then he's just totally useless the rest of the round because they expect you to be coming
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>>165051597
>massive viewmodels that take up as much as 1/3 of the screen (eg Torbjorn)
This drove me nuts. Winston in particular, has his fucking ape arm bouncing around on the left for no reason other than it's his running animation. So distracting.
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>>165051073
But anon, there are multiple aimbot abilities, wallhack abilities, and incredibly easy movement abilities.

As for glace value of a hero, I think the main problem is color scheme. Say what you want about TF2, but your entire team will be one color at a glance and so will the enemy team. There are also less classes in tf2 than heroes in OW, so there are only 9 shapes that you have to recognize at a glance. So between the large amount of heroes, plus not knowing what color the enemies might be, glance value is ruined.
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>>165051792
Nice farmed cosmetics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNA-0rErLwc
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>>165051792
Why do you enjoy looking like shit?
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>>165052140
>thinks getting points is hard
:^)

>>165052206
because it upsets others
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>>165052206
nt him but how do i make a loadout look gud

what is the key fundamental principle of tf2 fashion
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>>165052331
Subtlety and theme
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>>165051597
Yeah, I'd say you're pretty right about that. There have been a lot of times where explosions have fucked up my ability to see things.
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>>165052331
Matching accent colors and having a somewhat matching theme.
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>>165052386
>>165052654
cool, I do normally try and go for both of those. How's this? Too gaudy?
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>>165053542
forgot pic
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how would u buff mantreads
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>>165054612
Get some shoe polish
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>>165054789
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>>165053651
Russian Rocketeer is too cartoonish and gaudy, I would recommend the jetpack from the invasion update.

Hell, in my opinion, just replace both the helmet and the RR with the Captain Space Mann. That way you get a third cosmetic (captain space mann has a little jetpack with it)
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>>165054927
ty anon
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>>165053651
You have the right idea of themeing down at least.
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Can you still set Medic up to not need to click to start healing a target? I remember it being a script.
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>>165055380
Put this in medic.cfg:
alias key1 "slot1;autohealOff"
alias key2 "slot2;autohealOn"
alias key3 "slot3;autohealOff"
alias autohealOn "alias +heal -attack;alias -heal +attack"
alias autohealOff "-attack;alias +heal +attack;alias -heal -attack"
alias turnoffmediccfg "bind mouse1 +attack;bind 1 slot1;bind 2 slot2;bind 3 slot3;-attack"
bind mouse1 +heal
bind 1 key1
bind 2 key2
bind 3 key3

Put this in every other class.cfg:
turnoffmediccfg

pasted from tftv
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>>165055380
you have to be careful with that, iirc it caused a Medic to accidentally flash uber to an enemy Spy in a comp match a few years back, and he butterknifed their team's Demo to death and went on to cap the point for his team
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>>165055707
Got a link? Sounds top-notch
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>>165055965
https://youtu.be/jamuLPfQibU?t=4m3s
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>>165056342
When I watch these videos, I wonder why comp TF2 never became bigger. This is so much more exciting than an average game of something like CSGO.
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>>165056342
>not available on mobile
I miss my PC
Thanks anyways man
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>>165056560
Valve didn't advertise TF2 much and didn't support the comp scene much.

If you look at something like Expiration Date, its release saw a massive boost in TF2 player numbers, up to one of the highest points in TF2's history (100,000 daily). Just that single (amazingly crafted) piece of advertising brought an astounding boost to TF2's popularity.

http://steamcharts.com/app/440

If Valve were willing to continue to advertise and financially support TF2 consistently, it would be tip top tier in the video game scene. Unfortunately it's becoming yet another example of wasted potential in the Valve history annals.

Advertising is key. Advertising is why shit games like Overwatch, Cisquisition, Niggerfield, Fallout 4 and D44m, despite their numerous large flaws, moved huge numbers of sales.

TF2 could be the same, but despite the roughly 75% profit Valve are making off it, Valve are not taking the initiative to push it like they push their other games.

When I talk about all this, it all makes me believe that Valve HAS to be working on a second Orange Box clandestinely, as they were working in TF2 in secret for a decade before its release. Because surely no company would be dumb enough to waste this amazing potential.

Right?
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>>165057093
God damn it Anon, you're pissing me off with this shit.

Fucking Valve.

One of us just needs to call in a bomb threat to Valve or something, tell them to use the potential this fucking game has or it goes boom.
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>>165057930
I semi-unironically think they'll get some kind of bomb threat if Pyro Update turns out to be shit.

For a long time I have defended Valve, and I still think people who say they don't care about TF2 are wrong. But where people are right is when they say Valve doesn't support TF2 to anywhere near its maximum potential.
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>>165057093
doom was good though
not the multiplayer part, that was ass
got killed by a speedhacker 10 seconds in
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>>164984589
it looks good
>>164985669
>meme meme meme
I'm a meme you're a meme we're all memes. Are there any other memes i should know about?
>>164986516
i'mfuckingcoldbutgoingtoshittheshitoutofthatflooryourstandingnear
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>>164986516
never liked the baseball hood and hoodie combo in tf2, looks way too modern

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8074663.stm
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>>165060424
new PDA when
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>>165060424
Metal from a dead mann
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>>165060424
fuck you scout
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>>165060424
kurt cobain's last microphone
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>>165060424
hannah montana's vocal instrument
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>>165060424
reroll >>165060550
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>>165060424
niggers get triggers
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>>165060424
buy ow for true widowmaker experience
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>>165060424
texas chaingun massacre
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>>165060424
HaaaHA u're part of me KiLL streak now xD
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>>165060424
CHANG CHANG CHANG gook
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I see why its rage inducing now
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>>165060424
overwatch is shit
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>>165054612
I wouldn't.
I'd just add Rocket Jumper or Market Gardener an extra fall damage taken penalty. Mantreads is good all over, nothing beats running past a Sentry at long distance and taking cover at the next corner when situation calls for it.
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>>165060424
fags become frags
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>>165054612
>adds a kick alt fire
>Go up and give enemies a kick!
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>>165061556
>heavy counters pyro
Lies
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>>165060424
killing gays for days
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>>165060424
the uncle dane gun
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>>165061661
I like this. It could be like Shortstop's push.
Only question is, would you have to swap to the Mantreads, or would it add an alt-fire to your primary?
>>165061556
Your chart is borked. I used to post it a lot on 4chan but I've since stopped, because there are no "hard counters" in TF2.

A hard counter system is scissors paper rock, as in, scissors will always cut paper.

TF2 doesn't work that way. Engineers can shotgun Demomen, Scouts can corner-creep Engineers, and Demos can pipe Scouts. You just need luck or superior skill.
All counters in TF2 are soft counters.

>Mantreads is good all over
It really isn't. The knockback resistance is nowhere enough to make it a weapon people actually want to use. Only 3% of Mantreads owners actually wear the damn things, and only 2% of Soldier mains equip it. It has room for improvement by giving it a buff that makes the game more fun and interesting, and providing variety for Soldier mains.
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The new Shortstop shove is honestly amazing.

I always used the shortstop anyway but the amount of times that shove has saved my ass when you run around a corner and find yourself face to face with a heavy or demo. You do damage best at a slight range anyway so pushing them back is really useful.

I think the reason people think its dumb and useless is because "lol environment kills off the cliff lol" and thats all they try and do with it.

Stunning your enemy for a second and retreating is not a worthless addition to the weapon
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>>165060424
Rag-Inducting Genuie Profesional Killsteak Widowmacker
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>>165060424
Texan Depression, 1930
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>>165060424
reroll for >>165060550
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>>165062148
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>>165060424
kill all commies and nazis
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>>165060424
whites are the best race
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>>165060424
kill all right wingies
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>>165062141
just add the alt fire like the sticky launcher, usable on all (both) weapons
admittedly it would be hilarious to kick someone in a corner before katana raping them
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>>165060424
fuck donald drumpf and fuck white people
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>>165060424
In america, first you get the metal
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>>165060424
Ass pizza.
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surprised no ones said "A gun with no name" yet
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>>165060424
Donald Trump is Best
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>>165060424
shot you lol
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>>165060424
False Rape Accusation
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>>165060424
Stop Shitskin Immigration
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>>165060424
blueberry
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>>165060424
>>165062654
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>>165060424
rerolling for >>165060550

I want new engie buildings. figure out a way around repair node issues valve you cucks
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>>165060424
*frags u* OwO whats dis???
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>>165060424
>>165062821
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>>165063198
for what purpose
engi needs all of his buildings for one of the most crucial and game defined roles in not 6v6
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>>165060424
>>165062821.
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>>165060424
>>165062821...
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>>165060424
>>165062821
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>>165060424
kurt cobain sux
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>>165060424
kurt cobain
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>>165060424
>>165062821?
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>>165060424
politics a shit
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>>165060424
kurt
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>>165060424
>>165062960
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I AM A GOD
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>>165060424
kurt cobain was a pedo
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>>165060424
cobain
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>>165061141
>>165060424
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>>165060424
>>165061036
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THIS THING AIN'T ON AUTO PILOT SOOOOOON
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>>165060424
>>165062230
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>>165025781
game sux
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>>165060424
>>165061461
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>>165060424
>>165060550
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNA-0rErLwc
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>>165060424
>>165061612
................
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>>165060424
>>165061706
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>>165064683
winrar
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>>165064683
Among them was a champion
he held is post close, and his hopes high of getting the numbers and the world itself has spoken
But, are they ready... FOR ROUND 2?
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>>165064906
Bracket Jed (JED)
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>>165064906
If u died it means ur gay
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>>165064906
turning buggers into sluggers
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>>165063340
>why
same reason as any unlock, variety
>needs all his buildings for game role
then give him different buildings which execute the same role in new fun ways
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>>165064906
kurt cobain gay slayer
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>Lightning Gun/The Shaft:
>scout
>100% accurate
>0% spread
>no random crits
>mini sentry range
>Damage scales linearly with amount of consecutive seconds on target (if you've been on target for 2.6 seconds non stop each hit does 2.6x damage, if 0.2 seconds 0.2x damage)
>damage increases up to 50% based on bearer speed, where 0% is standing still and 50% is max speed
Find a flaw.
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>>165065409
>>Lightning Gun/The Shaft:
>>scout
>>100% accurate
>>0% spread
>>no random crits
>>mini sentry range
>>Damage scales linearly with amount of consecutive seconds on target (if you've been on target for 2.6 seconds non stop each hit does 2.6x damage, if 0.2 seconds 0.2x damage)
>>damage increases up to 50% based on bearer speed, where 0% is standing still and 50% is max speed

I took the liberty of highlighting anything that seemed flawed
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>>165065409
>Find a flaw.
Scout's almost only weakness is his low base Hp, and having to get up close to do more damage makes the low HP relevant, since at mid range he has the ability to dodge most things coming his way, but in close range, Scout has a lot more difficulty evading splash, so it makes a risk/reward situation where if you're further away from danger, you'll be safer, but have markedly less impact as a class.

So letting him do highly accurate damage at mid range to enemies is going to work out as a net buff to competent Scouts against all opponents. Except maybe other Scouts.

Also minisentries have the same range as stock, might as well just say sentry range.

Finally other classes need unlocks more (Medic only has a paltry 13) than Scout, who has the second highest number of unlocks in the game after Soldier.

Points for accepting "the shaft" though.
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>>165066525
forgot to mention Scout has 22 unlocks and Soldier has like 26

Scout has so much downright broken, banned, or useless shit at the moment, that I'd advocate fixing all of that before giving him any new weapons
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>>165066682
least his weapons have to actually hit the target
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>>165066719
bonk cola cheese back-caps don't desu

and yeah soldier is easier than scout, but scout has more downright broken unlocks than soldier does. my point is more that scout has stuff like Back Scatter which is garbage, Soda Popper which is nearly a straight upgrade, Sandman which makes people retch up their lungs. All of this stuff could do with rebalancing before we think about giving the class with the second most unlocks, and most banned unlocks, even more unlocks
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someone explain to me why engineer's pistol has 200 bullets
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>>165067173
why not
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>>165067173
scout's shoots faster
engi got more ammo
they wanted to make them each a little different,
why engi got more ammo when he's always near a dispenser, or metal stash i haven't a clue
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>>165067173
so that 3 years later they could release the wrangler in a broken as fuck state and point to pistol having 200 bullets as justification
it's the long game son
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>>165022549
yes, b4nny has been the most helpful player to competitive tf2
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Post underrated hats
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>>165067917
not enough soldiers use the kabuto Xd
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>>165067993
Thats a lie
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>>165064505
Nice, nice, nice, so nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz88DildnPs

>>165062141
>The knockback resistance is nowhere enough to make it a weapon people actually want to use.
Then I suggest
>airblast pushforce resistance
So a good pocket can wear it and resist the Pyro without QF
>more self blast damage
Blastjumps will propel you up slightly higher in return for more fall damage, but that would be a small gimmick because people can c-tap already.

>>165061661
>>165062630
I liked that idea too though. Yet, CowMangler already had an altfire...
May be applying that when the melee weapon is active would solve the problem, else change the way cowmangler works to make it like sticky bomb charging. This can be a huge buff to it as well, releasing M1 would cancel your mangleshot.

>>165048004
They need to figure something out to balance DR and Amby. Hope sending a few mails to them attracts their attention on the subject. I'll do my part.
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>>165067993
>kabuto solider
>rocket launcher renamed something edgy
everytime
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>>165068730
>not renaming your launcher to "zentetsuken"
>wearing kabuto in 2017
I shiggy diggy
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>>165064906
girls with dicks are totally ok btw
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why do hats randomly fall down into the 2fort intel room
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>>165069642
same reason your mom loves you
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>>165069702
because she gave birth to me ?
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>>165069831
Yes.
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>>165069831
the 2fort intel room births the hats
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How would you fix Huolong Heater?
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>>165071904
make it able to release a ring of fire at will at the cost of bullets.
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>>165066525
But tracking something for three seconds straight is fairly hard if they're moving. It'd be approximately pistol range, but replacing scattergun, so I don't get the midrange complaint. Accuracy increase isn't a net buff unless you're very good at tracking. And the +50% if moving makes it useful closerange. Other classes could get it instead if it's an issue, medic has high base speed so he could use it for instance.
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>tfw you about to be dropped out from college but to lazy&late to do something about it
>tfw no future
>tfw you 20yo but feeling like 14
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Achievement

>dominate a player wearing an unusual to get their unusual since they dont deserve it

>unusual will be removed from the player and added to your inventory
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>>165072254
y r u playin with bots
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>>165072254
y r u playin wearing unusual and use nohats mod
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>>165072391
sounds like a mad poorfag
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>>165072391
I would like to see this get added so that all of the rich kids that play would whine and cry in discussions about it not being fair.
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>>165072391
>lmaobox usage increases tenfold
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>>165072391
>dominate player
>immediately leave server
>never wear the hat again
good plan
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>>165072392
internet went out for a while and had to do something

>>165072536
I turned myself into a giant and my hats dissapeared...
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Huuuuh, Nyegh ehbe
wobo lo
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its like Christmas morning
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I haven't played in years and I want to get back into the game. How hard is it to find a good community server nowadays?
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>>165073581
>good
Nothing is good anymore its just barely bearable.
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>>165073538
>tfw I always play hale on christmas morning for this
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dead
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>>165073538
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Post carries
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Should I get DoN or keep insulated?
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what is everyone's the top 5 best TF2 updates in Opinion?
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>>165081356
Depends on if you want a standing collar.
I would say if you wanna be a cowboy though use the wild west waistcoat.
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>>165081954
Already have it and use it. I just like the turtle neck to match the shotty.
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>>165082149
Well then i guess don't gix what's not broken.
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T H I S W E E K
H
I
S

W
E
E
K
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>>165083649
>still 1 comic left
Fuck.
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>>165083649
what's the cover based off of this time?
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>>165084010
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>>165084010
Something superman iirc
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>>165083649
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>>165083649
>Demoman's heart
>Poopy Joe
>Gentle Mann of leisure
>Lieutenant Bites
>Giuseppe
>The dreamy sniper and spy
>The director
>Soldier's friends
>Shakespearicles
>Fucking Alamo Hospital Romance
10/10 a lot of love went into this
Worth the weight based on the cover only
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>>165083649
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>>165085762
even the little floating mrs. Pauling from scout's imagination is in there.
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>>165085909
And the ghost Attorney from that show demo was watching. And Tom Jones
Hell, there's a lamp with a powdered wig which I'll assume is Scout's former lawyer

It just keeps on giving
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Will that comic stuff hint the update?
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>>165086547
It's a non-canon series, sorry anon>>165086547
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The phlog needs to have an airblast added. Having it removed is more of a punishment to the team than then pyro himself.

Give it another downside
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>>165086854

Soldier with eyes is so unnerving to look at
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>>165086854
Airblast will be removed and the flamethrower will have a longer range but a thinner, more consistent stream.

Write your emails boys, airblast doesn't belong in this game and it will never be balanced.
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>>165086854
it doesnt make sense for it to airblast when it doesnt even contain a pressurized gas
maybe something like the engineer's shoty circuit would make more sense
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>>165086854
Ive actually been playing with the phlog for about two hours trying to work out how to use it effectively.

Ive come to the conclusion that you cant.

You need 300 fire damage to charge up the thing so you can only charge it using either the thrower itself or flareguns.

The scorch shot does 28 damage a hit plus a minicrit if the enemy stands still, so thats pretty much useless

Detonator is even worse

Flare gun will get 100+ with two shots if you can aim well and get that crit

or your other option is to w+m1 at either two people or one Heavy and by the time you charge up the phlog the rest of their team will have noticed they are being attacked and be there to fight you so your only chance is to use the phlog and then you get stickied or headshot.

Theres never a time where you find two people alone, kill them with a good amount of health left, go around a corner, taunt and then come out just as a good amount of people to make the taunt worth while is right in front of you. And of course they are going to spot you because you are glowing and making tonnes of noise so you are going to be losing health fast. Its pretty much useless.

It was actually fine BEFORE gun mettle when they decided to fuck with it. I know people used to meme that it was no skill annoying weapon but it was easily counterable yet could be effective in the hands of a skilled player. Now its just trash
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>>165088082
>Ive actually been playing with the phlog for about two hours trying to work out how to use it effectively.
>Ive come to the conclusion that you cant.

You must suck at tf2 then.
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>>165087989

This, it would be a buff.

If pyro autists dont see that they dont like playing their own class
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>>165017317
ok from now on im setting a rule for myself, when i do another one of these ill see it all the way through, so for yall not to feel gypped out of naming my shit.
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how do i make a video from a demo without showing the hud or chat?
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Post generic
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>>165088838
cl_drawhud 0
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>>165087989
airblast is the only thing fun about pyro though, being easier to w+m1 is not fucking fun you forget you are balancing a GAME
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>>165088934
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>>165089128
>airblast
>inherently broken mechanic that slows down games and Pyro vs Soldier 1v1
The thinner longer flamethrower makes aim essential in a fight, instead of just randomly spraying around hoping your flamethrower mojo is in your favor.
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>>165089113
ty friendo
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>>165089406
how is it broken, because its not realistic? having combat take strategy is not a fucking issue, airblast is the only reason gunboats aren't viable 100 percent of the time. i don't mind flamethrower being rebalanced to have a thinner flame, but it wont make aim essential, it will only make it easier to aim as pyros dont even know where the fuck their flame is going which actually is a big problem again im for that. but it isn't going to magically make the class that does 60 damage from just a tap with flame thrower harder to use, it will only encourage w+m1 since thats the only option they would have. they need to lower afterburn first and that is what i feel is the only big issue he has. you don't need to do either of these balances by removing the only interesting thing about pyro
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>>165089939
it's broken because it counters something that takes 40 seconds to build at it's fastest (with out ubersaw), something that was supposed to break stalemates.
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>>165090494
>the enemy team should have literally no options against enemy team invulnerability
it feels deliberate in my opinion, otherwise defense is just hopeless as its decided always by a fag farming uber in spawn. as it is right now pyro cannot reliably hold off the uber by himself as there is obviously the ubered player which can attack the pyro but also the rest of the team
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>>165091208
>using uber to break out of a choke
>pyro hiding around corner, peaking for a second to send uber back into choke
better luck next time m'lady xD
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>>165091208
no, I don't think something that takes that loong to build up should be countered by clicking m2 near it. The only thing that should counter uber is being able to out manuever (escape) it, and come back afterwards, or, you know, another fucking uber.
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>>165091648
>no, I don't think something that takes that loong to build up should be countered by clicking m2 near it.
Guess what! It's not!
You can just shoot the fucking pyro

>The only thing that should counter uber is being able to out manuever (escape) it, and come back afterwards, or, you know, another fucking uber.
That's terrible game design
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What's with this guy recently who's obsessed with getting rid of airblast
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>>165091516
>uber near pyro in close quarters where he is supposed to be viable
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
just run away from engineer nest, the intelligence, just cower in fear for 15 seconds while your spawn is being torn to shreds and you cant do nothing about it

>>165091648
>what is a counter
maybe the problem isn't the pyro but the fact that people actually rely on uber as a crutch?
>demoman shouldn't be able to take out engineer nests, it takes several minutes to fully set up!
>wow spy can press 1 button and kill heavy after it takes a whole minute to run to the other side of the map!
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>>165092256
>uber as a crutch

Kek
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>>165092589
there are applications beyond it being the literal only reason you make any progress in the game
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Lets be honest, do demoman and soldier take skill?
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>>165093104
To be good? Yes.

To just play? No.

A soldier can easily wipe most of the other team by himself if he plays smart.

Playing stupid and you get a kill, maybe two and over extend.

Demo is the same, but can do far more in terms of stopping the other team. He can wipe a whole team in one trap.
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>>165092256
Nice straw man. Anyways, that's not what I posted. I posted a counter argument to your point that a pyro cannot reliably hold off an uber. When it comes to places where an uber is needed, a pyro can always keep it at bay easily. When an uber is popped at a choke, shutting it down is one of the easiest things to do as a pyro, with minimal risk and a large reward. Come around a corner, airblast, retreat, wait for the medic/target combo to move up, go around corner, airblast, just rinse and repeat until the uber is done and over with.
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>>165093104
both to a degree. demoman is hard to use as there is a learning curve. you need to always think ahead, fight the future, secure an escape. but midrange it is a very braindead class. unlike soldier though demoman has to deal with weapon curve which requires planning to take out a turret for example. soldier takes a rudimentary amount of skill, most important being rocketjumping. it is very easy to airshot in team fortress 2 since most enemies are big and slow. his close range combat is mindless, his playstyle rewards missing, damage falloff being an efficient artificial way of making him only really useful at close to midrange. but a soldier no matter how skilled will most often do better than any other class
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>>165092703
It's the best way. It shouldn't be countered by something so easy to do. I'm fine with a sticky trap sending the medic or pocket away from each other, because that requires knowledge of when and where, and a set up time, and it still has a chance to fail. But pyro is just oh SHIT m2m2m2m2m2m22m2m2m2m2m2m2 then you die
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>>165093502
but that is just one example, that isn't applicable in most maps, and that can easily be avoided. what level are you even thinking of? what about an uber not at a chokepoint, like nucleus? should uber really be allowed to be uncontested until the other team has an uber? pyro has 200 ammo and only with stock will airblast cost 20, all the others costing more. it is at most a distraction, and in my experience not near as effective as you claim as everyone can easily kill a pyro

>>165094302
i still dont understand exactly why you cant just kill the pyro. are you ubering a scout or a spy?
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Help settle a dispute with me and some friends, /tf2g/ - when you're a cloaked Spy, and you bump into a cloaked spy, is it not common courtesy to leave each other alone?
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>>165095272
No, you kill that son of a bitch
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>>165094893
>easily avoid a choke
bro, do you even payload/AD/CP
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>>165083649
Wait really?
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Dotsy is mine and no one elses.
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>>165095272
when im playing spy its because the enemy has an annoying engineer. if i am playing spy, and only while im playing spy as i feel like there is a moment of understanding between the two of us, i secretly want the enemy spy to win because i hate engineers at that time, so i just run past him as i have a mission
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>>165088032
Never balance around dumb cosmetic or lore reasons
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>>165095502
i have not played even one map where there was only one way to enter an area. there is always at least one wide open area and at least one choke point, guess which one a pyro would be more effective at
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>>165095272
There is no reason to uncloak and try to find the other spy, so yeah, you usually just leave them alone.
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>b-b-b-b-but b-b-b4nny is gonna f-fix TF2
>who c-cares if he has personality disorders
>matchmaking is g-gonna be great, just you watch!
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>>165095272
yes.
It's a sign of mutual respect when neither spy tries to go after eachother under those circumstances.
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>>165088032
look closely, maybe youll see the fucking propane tank. its comical how effective it is but its still there
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been out of the loop forever

can i get Rainbow Six Siege for some of these
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>>165096340
i thought we were talking about the phlog
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>>165096353
no
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>>165096506
nevermind im in the mood to argue i apologize
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>>165094893
>are you ubering a scout or a spy?

You would uber a scout to counter a pyro, with a demo

You don't know what you are doing or saying
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>>165096353
if you sell most of the ones worth keys then MAYBE you'll get half the amount needed.
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>>165088794
>removing hailgrasa .v
>literally removing the worst part
At least you picked mine tho
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>>165096146
mm sucks because there isnt enough people playing it, when the game gets more popular, if valve finds a way to do it, more people will play mm. Maybe they already figured it out, people keep saying that dota 2 is dota 3 now since they make big changes, people can think the same about tf2.
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>>165096754
you would waste an uber to combat a single pyro instead of pushing?
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>>165096865
>>165096685
bummer

you guys still have a server?
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>>165096945
MM is objectively shit. Deal with it.

Also TF2 is just a sandbox for Valve to test and refine whatever latest jewish schemes they have devised before moving it to real projects like DOTA or CS. Don't expect anything good.
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>>165096945
>mm sucks because there isnt enough people playing it,
Player count isn't an issue. It's the mm system.

It's shitty and near-inherently broken.
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>>165097651
I would also think what's the reward or benefit of the Valve Match Making?

Casual you 'level up' but it means nothing.

Comp seems to level you up to but you can be matched with people who just got the pass from what I've read.

And no reward for playing it. No Valve sponsored tournament or prize means no reason to play Valves version of comp.
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>>165096353

I'll buy some of those items with ref if you want. You can buy keys then maybe get RSS.
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>>164995437
I've found the dead of night before.
And a crone's dome.
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I'VE ALWAYS WANTED YOU TO GO...

http://tf2r.com/kzk3k6o.html
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>>165098815
I really like the space diver.
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>>165095272
Only if you're not in Turbine's ducts
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>>165098815
thanks virbi
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>>165098907
>>165100116
Don't reply to the attention whore. Just hide and ignore
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>>165098189
what about playing well in comp just to be more likely to play against better players and thus the reward being more fun
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>>165100210
Dont tell me what to do, faggot
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post pyros.
r8/h8/aprreci8
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>>165100381
this loadout is silly
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>>165100381
The Neptune's Nightmare always confuses me

Is it a head, a hat or both?
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>>165100210
but he she's doing something, you're just avatar fagging
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>>165100381
I kinda just stuck with this loadout, since I haven't found much to wear for him.
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Do you guys know of any good servers that use hlstatsx?
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>>165100381
Eyes are just kinda there, makes it look odd.

But then giving the fire thing a diving helmet is odd.
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>>165100381
I love the eyes with that helmet.
But I like comfy as well.
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>>165096965
Now you're just pretending to be retarded
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>>165088032
i've always liked the idea of a flamethrower that deletes projectiles instead of reflecting
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>>165083649
Who's the little girl next to Hale? Not Olivia surely.
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>>165103049
Pretty sure that's one of the Saxtonettes from the Girl's Adventure comic cover
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>>165103756
ah yep
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>>165102052
i think you are, you are making up scenarios that literally dont happen unless you are careless and stupid
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>>165103756
a brave grill
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>>165103968
A pyro is going to be near the combo. You either are not very knowledgeable about the game, or you genuinely think someone is going to pop an uber against a singular pyro.
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what does stabby do for a living and how old is he
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>>165105185
idk and 30
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>>165098189
you dont get anything for being global elite either dude, matchmaking for tf2 just sucks because there's locked internet and graphics settings, and no placement matches so you literally have to grind up from the lowest rank, which means higher ranked players will always get ranked with lower rank players.
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>>165100381
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>>165105185
he is le shpee
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>>165106229
Good thing I'm posting from my bathroom, cause that load of shit you call a loadout is the worst I've seen all year.
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>>165086832
It's not non-canon, it's post-canon. The events of the comic take place after the events of the game. But they are canon
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>>165106229
>max's head
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>>165087989
>airblast doesn't belong in this game and it will never be balanced
cry all you want, it'll never be removed

it's a good mechanic, everyone who isn't a retard recognizes that, and it's here to stay
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stabby's first name is adam :o
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>>165108924
I couldn't find a better fit on such short notice. That one's a winner.
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My 2017 tf2g suicide wishlist v4.1

human
26dollar
kirkirip
dotsy
flip
aida
magic max
shuckle
feathers
vibri

**CHANGELOG**
-Updated to 2017
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>>165095272
only a spy main would believe in this kind of beta shit. this is why nobody likes you
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>>165100381
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>>165108946
Play hl players have said how dumb and broken it is.
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>>165110489
Why are you playing hl
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Anyone know what happened to Fugworld? Haven't played TF2 in nearly 6 years but convoy was my home. I'm trying to use the IPs on the steam group but the server doesn't respond and there's been radio silence on the forums since like May.
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>>165110268
I keep forgetting that the conscience exists.
Its a good idea, rather poorly executed, then lost to time.
It really deserves a redo.
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>>165110885
It's one of my favorite pyro cosmetics, and the
reason I even realized it was a thing was this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAqGUUv-XJs
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>>165111129
I remember back when every trader used the hoodie+conscience on pyro.
Then the third slot came around and people found new loadouts and just kinda forgot about the conscience.
R.i.p.
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>>165110684
6's players are even more adamant about being against offclassing, not sure the argument you are trying to use here
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>>165112276
i'm saying that competitive is a joke and unrepresentative of 99% of people playing tf2
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>>165112372
Pubbers complain about pyros m1 being overpowered.
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>>165112672
and they're retarded, pyro's literally always been the weakest class

not to mention that combo pyro is what people complain about (and they nerfed that into the ground)
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>>165112817
>i'm saying that competitive is a joke and unrepresentative of 99% of people playing tf2
>but pubbers are also retarded and have no idea what they are talking about

What the fuck are you on about?
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>>165112934
I'm saying that valve should play their own fucking game for once.
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>>165112983
CSGO uses opinions of people who know alot of the game, why can't tf2 do that?
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>>165113112
>CSGO uses opinions of people who know alot of the game, why can't tf2 do that?
That'd be nice if they did that, but I don't seem them doing that any time soon.
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>>165004535
okay, you got me with that strange bottle & Strange rocket launcher. Also when did they do that to the Persian Persuader, literally sounds like the epitome of pinball demoman.
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>>165109595
kirii is cool and cute
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>>165109595
where the hell am i
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>>165068678
melee kick could make soldier have a melee option, no distance closer but prehaps have a primary that just increases his move speed and removes rockets, this could be a fun spin off demoknight
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>>165071904
its Kart heavy weapon
There is no problem
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>>165083649
ENGI DOES HAVE A DAD
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>>165083649
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH FINALLY SOME LET ME OUT OF MY CAGE. NOW TIME FOR ME IS NOTHING CAUSE I'M COUNTIN YOUR AGE.
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>>165115628
back, back to /mu/ with you!
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>>165110489
>hurr its dumb
not an argument
and yes airblast has bugs that need to be fixed. no shit
that's a totally different thing from being a retard and saying it should be removed
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>>165083649
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Help me fashionistas, what should I replace the biker with, or is the biker good as is?
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>>165117850
repace beard
consider the heavy duty rag
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IT HAPPING

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=26532
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>>165117850
How about the tyurtlenek
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>>165117850
Get a hound dog, and a better beard.
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>>165118436
>unshaved bear
>a bad beard

fite me u nerd
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>>165118498
>the fact that someone is better means that everything else is bad
Its a good beard, but not for trying to be a biker.
Unless you try to go for a midlife crisis biker type thing.
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>>165118498
its not a bad beard but it goes better with the canadian themed sets, as a biker its too well trimmed and shaped
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>>165117096
It's "dumb" because it totally slows the game down when it's already so slow to begin with when it comes to stalemates. Imagine if every 6's game had a dedicated pyro blocking ubers. It would be fucking awful and boring to watch and play.
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>>165118643
>>165118687
Is there a cuban in my future?

I refuse to get the leftover trap
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>>165069616
Sorry, went and watched some weeb shit movie
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>>165119029
The cuban is a pretty good beard.
Looks a bit odd on engineer though imo, buts it good on soldier/heavy.
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>>165118817
>it totally slows the game down when it's already so slow to begin with when it comes to stalemates
Airblast can be used for offensive purposes like stickytrap clearing, reflecting defensive spam, reflecting sentry rockets and puffing tanky enemies off control points to cap it (which was done last year in ozfortress). It's not solely defensive. If Pyro's mobility options were increased, attacking teams would use it more often for these things.

If Pyro's airblast was removed like you dumbfucks are calling for, simply no team would EVER use Pyro, not even if it did have a "lightning gun" flamethrower (an idea I support). Because it would no longer have anything unique going for it that another class can't do better.
>It would be fucking awful and boring to watch and play.
I just about fell asleep during long portions of i58 FT vs Crowns and Pyro didn't really turn up much at all during that game. Slow pace is an inherent problem with the 5CP mode, not because Pyro exists. With or without Pyro, competitive play will continue to be slow until someone fixes the problem with 5CP encouraging playing safe and waiting for the enemy to come to you.

Anyway this argument is a waste of time because airblast is NEVER EVER going to be removed, you should realize that, and basically, you're fucking retarded.
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>>165119378
>5CP is too slow
What if we made 7CP with high capture rates
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>>165118817
imagine if every team had 2 soldiers, who did the exact same roles every time, It would be fucking awful and boring to watch and play
i mean 9 classes? thats too many, just cut it down to Soldier, Scout and Medic, thats enjoyable to watch, why even bother with the other classes
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>>165119540
classes? why the fuck should we even bother with classes? let's just go all soldier and--- oh wait that's Quake
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>>165119540
>we want the ultiduo audience
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>tfw you craft this
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>>165119378
I'm not the same guy that is saying remove airblast, I'm just telling you why it's inherently a broken mechanic in a push based game. and all those "offensive" ways of airblasting don't actually speed the game up, it's SO RARE to see a pyro actually do anything after airblasting a trap away. He's purely support, and can not transition into attack (like scout demo and soldier can do so well)
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>>165119536
idk

we'd still get that same problem of the defenders turtling last so they don't lose and the attackers sitting on sixth/second so they don't make a failed push and lose sixth/second, also the filesizes would be much bigger and valve would pull the "too confusing for new players" thing

I think part of the answer to stalemates lies in making A/D maps that don't suck and playing them on stopwatch, making a payload mode with an auto-rolling payload that doesn't force attackers to babysit the cart, and doing whatever the fuck CTF needs to work

also more koth maps would be good, but it's difficult to design a good koth map that isn't just viaduct reskinned
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>>165119939
>inherently a broken mechanic
but it's not you retard

TF2 being a push-based game does not automatically mean that mechanics which stop or slow pushes are not allowed, or the whole game would just be fucking Scout, and stickytraps, engineer, heavy, soldier knockback, snipers, spy, basically everything that makes this a class-based game instead of being Quake would cease to exist

If you're looking for a game with no obstructions to an offensive playstyle and continuous mobility seriously: Go Play Quake
>it's SO RARE to see a pyro actually do anything after airblasting a trap away
Yah because he doesn't have enough damage, range, or mobility to make an impact on most maps
give him those and it could actually perform offensive functions, like im saying

with all that said, look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0H75bMDNGs (11 mins)

this could be Pyro used offensively, if people were asking for his offensive abilities to be buffed instead of bitching about airblast

You say airblast is not used offensively (despite there being concrete evidence of it having been), but it could definitely be if Pyro's offensive role was expanded on
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you know what ive had it up to hear wit this "cmpetive" mindset it RUINS fun unlocks like bonk andonic punch and all for some retads who think soldier takes skilL?? wtf valve, how can you listen to b4nny he literally sucks your fucking dick dry as the sahara and thinks that we need tf2 to be COMPETITIVE? no, listne vlve you better remove competitive in the pyro update and make spy and pyro GODS okay its TIME THAT WE HAD A VOICe. BRINg back quickplay you fucking mongos and maybe ill play ur shotty game but intil then im going to just watch stabby PWN nooby scouts ,soldiers ,demos and MEDICS twitch .telvension /staby SO GET FUCKED RETARD PUUBErRS WE HAVE COMP NOW WE WIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>165121452
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>>165121573
I bet that would be fun to light on fire.
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>>165118643
>>165118687
so how about the dude?
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>>165120026
>A/D maps
I understand why you'd think that's better than 5CP, since the attackers can't lose their progress by failing a push

In practice though, it's really not better. Since the defending doesn't have any incentive to push, engineer becomes an over-valid pick and being the defending team in general is just boring since you spend a lot more time literally waiting

5CP places both teams in the same scenario, along with KOTH it's the best way you can design a map

Yes, stalemates on last are boring, but disallowing one team from pushing altogether doesn't solve anything.
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So about that Pyro update
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>>165123297
>Since the defending doesn't have any incentive to push
destroying any enemy teleporters and, with good map design, preventing the attackers from gaining advantageous high ground and keeping them as far away from the point as possible (see mountainlab as one example of a map that almost gets it right).

Even on Dustbowl 3rd stage (the very worst example of AD), for example, defenders are encouraged to push out to the choke immediately after first point rather than sit near last, because from there they can lock down all routes to last. I'm not saying we should do anything that drastic though, just an example.

A/D just needs better map design. We need more good A/D maps with bigger terrain advantages the further the attackers go forward and gain ground, encouraging defenders to push out to deny the attackers those advantages.

I think one of the reasons gravelpit was dropped was not so much because of the mode, as because A was pretty useless balance-wise and B was too good of a defensive strongpoint to concentrate all your team on. So you would sit on B, let them take up some time capping A (maybe sac out a demo or soldier), and then sit on C, because of these balance issues in one of the first TF2 maps designed.

Even so, there are plenty of people in the 6s scene who still miss Gravelpit, so I think that another A/D map that's designed and balanced better could have great appeal if players are willing to give it a shot.

And therein lies the problem because there's so much skepticism.

>it's the best way you can design a map

It's really not, 5CP as mentioned before has the disadvantage all TF2 modes get when both teams are on a relatively even footing.

>Yes, stalemates on last are boring
Considering your entire argument against A/D is that it can potentially be boring for one team, stalemates on last in 5CP are boring for both teams.

I agree KOTH is best, but too hard to design new maps.
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>>165093104
>demoman
yes
>soldier
no

t. soldier main
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>>165124842
>t. soldier main

lol no. soldier mains are way too autistic and narcissistic to say their class doesn't take skill. now jog on. cunt.

t. a real soldier main
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THOTs on new 5cp map?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRgdwHqoFSU

i think parts of it look good gameplay wise, but other parts look cluttered and the switch between modern-day art assets and "old" frontline art assets is weird
its not as clean and smoothed out as say process but it's interesting
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tf2 is easy

no class is hard
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>>165126126
tf2 is easy to learn hard to master*
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>>165125290
but it's don't. all you have to do to be effective is shooting at the ground near enemy
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>>165126627
>all you have to do to be effective is shooting at the ground near enemy
that right there is you oversimplifying soldier. to be effective at something is to do something well and to do something well is to have skill.

a good soldier has the skill to be effective at shooting the ground near the enemy, the skill to be accurate with their shotgun, the skill to be precise with their rocket jumping. they need to have the skill to predict opponents movements and compensate accordingly for rocket travel time to hit directs and air shots on enemies.

also necessary is ammo management, making sure you've got enough rockets and shells for everyone and your aunt. cause if you don't you'll kill everyone and wind up in front of your aunt with nothing but your bare ass and a prayer. all of these skills have to be used in the correct combination with speedy reaction times and a constant gameflow to be supremely effective and to do well.
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>>165115018
That's future Engie from the MVM comic. http://www.teamfortress.com/roboticboogaloo/comic.php#
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>>165128216
That's not future engie you retard, that's just engi during the comic events
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>>165128617
The MvM comics are in the future from gameplay tf2 you fucking dingus.
So while you are technically correct in that its not that specific future engineer. It is still a future engineer.
Though >>165128216 is fucking dumb as the beard isn't long enough, and the boogaloo comic is 100% non-canon for literally everything but itself.
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>>165083649
>two round holes in his body
blood-sucking robots must have got to him
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>>165088082
>phlog is too loud
>not binding Q to one of the jeering voice macros that last a half second and are impossible to hear to hide uber calls/sentry movement/phlog activation
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>>165092248
Blackbox/conch """""soldier main"""" who doesnt like needing to remove his crutches when a not shit pyro shows up.
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rev up those replys cause i sure am lonely.
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>>165131510
Hat
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>>165131510
I got no elf esteem
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>>165131510
I found this hat in a ditch.
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>>165132014
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/d/d8/Engineer_sf13_influx_big01.wav?t=20131030161306
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>>165131510
trump is best
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>>165131510
I was gonna go with a similar joke so just go with >>165131910
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>>165131510
Elf Esmeme.
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>>165128617
>>165128898
Why are you so mad it's the wrong engie, holy fuck?
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>>165131510
Zelda h@
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http://tf2r.com/kzk3k6o.html

For the non-americans
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>>165128081
thats all is easy as fuck
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>>165131510
Well I'm sitting on my stoop feelin' kinda lonely
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>>165131510
all hail trump
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>>165133384
epic raffle
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>>165131510
reich hat mond mond ya ya
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>>165133384
>not all pro ks
You fucking leech.
Why the space mann? Why not the head full of hot air for this specifically pyro loadout?
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>>165131510
wee wee communism
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>>165131510
>>165131910
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>>165134618
winnere winner
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>>165134781
But i have some danke memes.
>>
>>165134781
a single stickie bomb hung from the tip of a green elven hat with plastic ears attached to the brim
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who they
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>>165134562
Head of hot air clips with the phobos filter
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>>165135605
demoman's mom
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>>165135693
Does it?
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>>165135871
no she's on the left of the pumpkin
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>>165136054
whoops guess it's someone else's mother
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>>165136341
It might be Mildred
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>>165136550
soldier is 2 cute
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>>165135971
Put the phobos filter on THEN the head of hot air
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>>165134562
>>165135971
>"why aren't you giving us an item worth less that looks worse? My autism is flaring up!"
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>>165134781
That's okay, man, 'cause I like the abuse
>>
>>165137194
???
>>165137579
I hadn't noticed it was a raffle, just wondered what clipping he was on about.
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>>165135605
01: 1850's sniper
02: 1850's heavy
03: redmond?
04: 1850's medic
05: 1850's pyro
06: 1850's scout
07: engineer's grandfather
08: 1850's spy
09: barnabus hale
10: the gentle manne of leisure
11: 1850's engineer
12: the park warden
13: scout's mother
14: merasmus
15: tuefort mayor
16: 1850's soldier
17: 1850's demoman
18: bilious hale
19: demoman's liver
20: demoman's mother
21: russian mobster pumpkin
22: ???
23: demoman's heart
24: mrs. mundy?
25: old lady from tuefort
26: tuefort pizza guy
27: bombinomicon
28: yana
29: bronislava
30: mildred?
31: heavy's mother
32: jack
33: ???
34: engineer's father
35: medic
36: heavy
37: australian navy guy
38: mecha heavy
39: saxton hale
40: jerry / hale's pilot
41: administrator's goons
42: administrator / helen
43: nicholas crowder / australian santa claus
44: saxonette?
45: maggie
46: administrator's guard dogs
47: ???
48: sentry gun
49: demoman's dog
50: archimemeds
51: pyro
52: spy
53: scout
54: miss pauling
55: soldier
56: zhanna
57: engineer
58: the director
59: poopie joe
60: george washington?
61: tom jones
62: grey mann
63: grey mann's eagle mom
64: sniper
65: chinese mafia?
66: sniper's father
67: sniper's mother
68: amelia earhart's hotdog costume
69: benedict arnold?
70: demoman
71: eyelander
72: archibald
73: salty pete / pepper pot pete
74: salty pete / pepper pot pete
75: smokey or whatever
76: balloonicorn
77: mecha spy
78: mecha soldier
79: sexy spy
80: the alamo?
81: headless horseless headman
82: sasquatch?
83: ???
84: ???
85: ???
86: mecha medic
87: mecha demoman
88: phantom pauling
89: sexy sniper
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>>165139143
#3 isn't Redmond, it's Blutarch Mann
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>>165139143
#47 looks like Barnibus Hale, father to Saxton Hale and previous owner or Mann Co.
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>>165138846
The transparent effect breaks on loadout if you put a new cosmetic under an already applyed transparent one. You have to add the phobos filter and then the HOHA to get how it actually looks in game
>>
>>165139381
barnabus is saxton's grandfather, and I already have him (and bilious, saxton's father) tagged
>>
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Anyone selling a Dead of Night?
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>>165140203
Yes
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>>165139143
guys what if the comic means they are removing medic from the game because teams are too reliant on Ubers
>>
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I wonder when the new comic is coming out.
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>>165144378
this week
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>>165139143
22 Is, I think, Scout's lawyer in lieu of Soldier.
33 is Saxton Hale's barber
47 is a background Australian, seen when Emily, Redmond Mann's 1890s assistant, describes Australia to Radigan Conagher
I don't know about 83 or 84, but 85 is Shakespearacles, the strongest writer who ever lived, and inventor of the two story building (without stairs, which would be invented later by Abe Lincoln), the stage play, America, and the Rocket Launcher
>>
Ded
>>
A rainbower pyro will never see the real version of his own taunt
>>
A pyro can reflect the Kamikaze taunt to avoid death, for both himself and the soldier that performed it
>>
A demoknight can survive the hadouken taunt on his own if he equips the targe, booties and eyelander, collects four heads and then gets hit by the taunt shortly after collecting two more
>>
>>165139143
34 isn't "Engineer's father", it's older Engineer from 1970
http://www.teamfortress.com/tf04_blood_in_the_water/#f=68
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>>165152049
I don't think both normal engineer and engineer with beard would be in the image
Could be a mistake on pinkerton's end.

Has it been confirmed that tfc engineer is engi's dad? The image shown on the engineer update matches quite well with the one of the catch-up comic, but I don't think the comic itself ever made mention of their relation.
>>
>>165153293
>I don't think both normal engineer and engineer with beard would be in the image
well we've got duplicate Paulings and 2dogs
>The image shown on the engineer update matches quite well with the one of the catch-up comic
it's engie with a beard, anon, no doubt about it
maybe it was unintentional to have 2 engies but that's what we have
>>
>>165153782
>well we've got duplicate Paulings
Not duplicate though, the phantom pauling wasn't miss pauling, it was an abstract rendition of scout's mind, and a seperate character within the comic
Same goes for the sexy sniper and spy
>>The image shown on the engineer update matches quite well with the one of the catch-up comic
That was a seperate question, the wiki states that tfc engineer is his father but I'm wondering if it was actually confirmed
>>
>>165153293
>Has it been confirmed that tfc engineer is engi's dad
Yeah, it was confirmed in one of the older comics
>>
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>>165154234
pic
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>>165154398
i thought it was only in the background of engineer update

dell conagher is engineer's grandfather, not father
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>>165154547
>those expressions on the girls' face
cute af dammit.

>>165144378
>this week
>valve time said...
>this week
>2 months?
>this week
My bet is on thursday or friday. So... No dice in wednesday for me.
That lazy sack of crap will be taking saturday off I'm sure.
>>
>someone is selling an item i want
>trade post is nearly half a year old, but the item's still in their inventory and the price they want for it is actually slightly higher than backpack price
>"send me an offer or add me, if i'm online i'll respond quickly"
>send offer
>no response for days, even though they are frequently online
>add them to see what's up
>offer rejected, friend request rejected
why
why don't you want my metal
>>
>>165144378
ms. pauling is gay
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>>165155654
no
>>
Page 10
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>>165155654
she's not, though. writer's word does not supersede officially-approved canon.
>>
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The direct hit damage is pure bullshit but i love it
>>
Ded gam
Ded thred
>>
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>wanted to find that one comic about "TF2 don't resemble 60s anymore"
>end up reading entire fanboys-online archive instead
>comic never to be found or I missed it somewhere
no regrets
>>
How dead is tf2g?
>>
>>165163824
i like how you sped up the footage to make it look impressive
>>
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R8 this stupid particle effect hat.
>>
>>165166954
I think he probably sped it up to fit inside 4chans file size limit

Ive had this problem with webms before
>>
>>165117850
Tyurtlenek
>>
>>165167930
Stupid
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Heavy stopped caring.
>>
>>
>>165169192
The game resembled the 1960s tho.
>>
>>165168756
nice nice

>>165166068
how dead is tf2?
>>
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>>165170756
does this recolor the mustache or glasses?
>>
>>165170939
Glasses
>>
>>165170756
I didn't know dk was a number
>>
>>165171024
what does the DK indicate?
>>
>>165170610
Yeah, that's what I meant. I was in a rush, my bad
>>
>>165170756
Give us a number.
Name for hat is: I like men and i cant lie.
>>
>>165171193
>>165171169

Danish

I downloaded the game in Danish, but turned it to english later on because the translation is crap, so there's still some small things left.
>>
>>165171502
You're supposed to give us a number to roll for newfag.
>>
>>165171636
>>165170756
lets just roll for 7 of he wont pick

"Somewhere under the ground in Freddie Mercuries coffin he still has my semen in his ass"
>>
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>>165171636
27
>>
>>165171983
off yourself
>>
>>165170756
YMCA Standard Edition Shades
>>
>>165172087
winner
>>
>>165169649
its art style, you wouldn't understand
>>
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>>
>>165176141
it's perfect
>>
>>165176141
Now i need to get that helm.
>>
>>165166954
>>165168259
Literally did nothing to it but download from youtube and trim the video with webm for retards.
Maybe the 60fps original video source fucked the speed up?
Whatever, see for yourself
https://youtu.be/2NiiXxIaX3s?t=1065
>>
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http://tf2r.com/knsx36c.html

Supply your own seal mask
>>
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ayo
>>
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hol up
>>
>>165177594
dotsy's kitty is cute
>>
>>165177594
Sniper was already taken.
>>
>>165177790
i Just wanTed to plAY What Muselk did and be cOWboy spy!!
>>
>>165177790
But Dotsy is not
>>
>>165177594
Ambassador
>>
>>165177790
dotsy is cute
>>
>>165134781
>>165137934
Dude, you awake?
>>
u call me noob but look at my backpack then look at urs :)
>>
>>165177790
nice
>>
>>165177790
But Human is my /tf2g/fu
>>
>>165177790

wasted name tag
>>
>>165177790
lol, 69
>>
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165176597<<
>enemy didn't strafe at all and put himself in an easily predictable angle
>direct hit
>overreacting this much
never change, bond
>>
>>165177790
dotsy is fat
>>
>>165177790
buthol xD
>>
>>165071904
Oh wow. I haven't seen this image in a long time. I believe this artist drew a lot of yaoi though I could be mistaken.
>>
>>165177790
boys kissing boys
>>
>>165154547
Oh my god they really did make sure to get literally everyone into that shot.
>>
>>165177790
this weapon is the only reason i'm even remotely viable
>>
>>165177790
Help, I lost my knife
>>
>>165177790
I flimflam'd her whatzit.
>>
>>165177790
Why am I playing this game when I could be riding my XL Unflared Chance instead?
>>
>>165179039
waste of a nine go fuck urself
>>
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i havent touched tf2 in a year, what relevant buffs/nerfs have i missed?
>>
>>165180193
I'm sorry.
>>
>>165177790
Ambassador? I hardly know her!
>>
>>165177790
Armbassador
>>
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>>165178572
>overreacting
I just posted a webm, at least i try to post tf2 once in a while.

>>165180268
The casual search is finally good except not because if you requeue for a match the server doesn't search for new people to put in to substitute the people that left during the next map vote
>>
>>165177790
I hate Nicaraguans.
>>
>>165177790
Nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga im 200% nigga
>>
>>165177790
rerolling >>165180083

>>165180268
medic can now run at speed of his healing target no matter what medigun he's using
spy runs at medic speed now
heavy nerfed again
still no changes to dds
pyro update """"soon""""
and matchmaking is a thing now (isn't balance change but it's important), it's a lot more fun than quickplay if you're okay with waiting 30s for a match imo
i think that's about it desu, but do go look at the changes yourself
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Patches
>>
>>165177790
*teleports behind you*
>>
>>165177790
go to www.www.www.www.double(You)double(You)double(You).www.w
>>
>>165177790
cirno
>>
>>165183759
You fucker, what the hell was that?
>>
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here
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>>165183759
fitting

>>165184015
do i really need to spoonfeed you
>>
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>>165183759
>>
What is the most important to a tf2 player?
>>
>>165184591
clearly not proper grammar
>>
>>165184686
My sentence was grammatically correct.
>>
>>165184591
game sense
movement
teammates that aren't braindead
communication
>>
>>165184591
map awareness > team organization > accuracy > rest
All under gamesense. It doesn't change with the class you play, however some classes prioritize one over another when situation calls for it.
>>
>>165184346
No, I just have a dislike of Touhou for reasons concerning autism on both my part and the part of fans.
>>
>>165184591
>>165184862
What is the most [adjective] [blank space] to a tf2 player?
Sure was, bucko.
>>
>>165186959
Looks like a few people understood what I was asking for.
>>
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