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Final Fantasy General CDXII - /ffg/

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>General info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FFVII: R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kznek1uNVsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3sBZ5Nr4hc

>FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb-f9P_tyQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZymd6r4wGg
Brotherhood episodes: http://pastebin.com/Q7Efb9F2

>FF XII: The Zodiac Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81NsStczT8E
https://youtu.be/274X0SjKx8M

>FF XI
/ffg/ has a linkshell on Asura: "FearTheVoid"!
December Update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/51767-Dec.-13-2016-%28JST%29-Version-Update
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FF XIV
Patch 3.45 Notes
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/c55a99e864094c0c7dfcbde0fa35bd9fda60dfcb

>Final Fantasy Record Keeper
Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
Upcoming Banners List: http://bantha.org/~dscotton/ffrk.html
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjUI0AwTAoBxuZlGQQZfaEQMnNt2bUdzm0gMZHXq4Cs/edit#gid=0
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/B7j7qr3C

>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
How to JP: http://pastebin.com/91MEQ6wW
GL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/c43qGvi6
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

>MOBIUS Final Fantasy
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sbsXu3X9

>Dissidia Opera Omnia
https://youtu.be/48WHqnFT9OQ

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/xMVaH4Hv

>Vayneposter Filter
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tsjzh
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Potential new OP. I do not have control of the pastebins so I cannot edit anything into them.

>General info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb-f9P_tyQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZymd6r4wGg
Brotherhood episodes: http://pastebin.com/Q7Efb9F2

>FF XI
December Update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/51767-Dec.-13-2016-%28JST%29-Version-Update
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FF XIV
Patch 3.5 Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xixQ5XhjkM

>Final Fantasy Record Keeper
Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
Upcoming Banners List: http://bantha.org/~dscotton/ffrk.html
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjUI0AwTAoBxuZlGQQZfaEQMnNt2bUdzm0gMZHXq4Cs/edit#gid=0
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/B7j7qr3C

>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
How to JP: http://pastebin.com/91MEQ6wW
GL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/c43qGvi6
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

>MOBIUS Final Fantasy
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sbsXu3X9

>Dissidia Opera Omnia
https://youtu.be/48WHqnFT9OQ

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/xMVaH4Hv

>Vayneposter Filter
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tsjzh

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Consider this a work in progress.
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>>164957995
Did you seriously not read the thread? We wanted the YT links removed. Oh well, next time.
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Is there a whale Noctis here? I could really use one so I can beat the event on ELT.

231419160
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Is Ardyn's hair as soft and floofy as it looks?
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>>164957680
> It's just one more link to jump through,
it really isn't though, you have to manually copy and paste from the pastebin to the address bar which is especially annoying considering pastebin's formatting on mobile. Meanwhile, mobile chan browser makes them directly clickable.

We've had this discussion before, and it is far better to keep the mobile links out of the pastebin isn't that what 90% of the people are here for anyway?
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>>164958169
not a whale but i am >600 attack so maybe it'll be enough for ya, sent request
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>>164958139
Feel free to make new ones, no big deal.
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>>164957683
Yeah I tried all the combination I could, short of a small reverse it's the best I can do. Newish PC though, no adobe on here
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>>164958139
RK's pastebin already has the links inside

Other game info is the only one where a new pastebin needs to be made, doesn't have to be the original guy
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>>164958147
Must've missed it. Came straight from a game of DotA and decided to make a new one for funsies as I hadn't made one in a few months. Sorry about that.
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>>164956964
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>>164958612
why won't you just kill yourself?
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>>164957995
Fuck, I missed the previous thread too

Previous: >>164889365
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>>164958612
keep on keepin on 8 bit anon
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>>164958612


>>164958646
Because I don't get suicidal over digital comics that barely make a dent in a limit of 250 images.
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>>164958612
I'd be ok if you hung yourself, or stopped permanently, and just linked the damn website.
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>>164958139
>trying to slim our OP down
>still have a vayneposter filter when you can natively filter people in 4chan
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>>164958890
>linked the damn website.
its on the bottom of literally every comic
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>>164958919
It's a running gag. One of our few original memes. People seemed bothered when it briefly disappeared..
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>>164959029
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But for real tho, how do i level up and get fast exp for my party in Brave exvius? at rank 10 i see people have almost level 60 characters and Shit
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>>164959141
Ratfuckers plz die.
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>>164959272
I think they recently gave out some bonus exp units. Right now you're gonna have to level up.
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i don't think i'm very good at brave exivus

i've got lightning with an Excalibur, noctis, cecil/noel, refia, and ex death and i can't beat the elite dark fina

i just went back to tm farming for now
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>>164959272
Maybe they fell for the 2k Fina bundle scam. The game does throw plenty of lapis at you early on.
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>>164959232
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>>164959272
Cactuar Dunes, Enchanted Maze, Miranda Coast, and Exp Vortex. Pick your poison.
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>>164959346
>humble brag
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>>164959346
>losing with that team

shitter
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>>164959424
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>>164958139
While we're on the topic of cleaning up links, maybe consider merging the mobage sheets into one, that way there's no need to have many tabs open at once and there's one universal link the pastebins can use/refer to

Only issue is the BE doc gets vandalized from time to time but reverting things like colors being changed or erasing the whole doc should be no issue
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>>164959141
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>>164960054
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>>164958251
Thanks mate, I almost got her, forgot to guard her ultima this time tho, I'll get her next time.
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>>164960278
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>>164959401
Ahh maybe that is the case. I should save all my lapis to roll only in good gachas correct, not the normal one?
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>>164960426
Will resume near the end or next thread. Unless the image count is still low.
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>>164959346
>No Full Break
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>>164960981
Nevermind I'm a retard
Thunder Flask should do the trick
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>>164960497
Do half pulls, tickets on banners you like. 5k pull if you're desperate.

Only refill at higher ranks and lapis should also be spent on expanding slots. At least 100 each of friend, unit, materials and equipment should be the norm by around rank 50 to 60.
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>Still can't skip cutscenes when replaying event
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>>164960869
Image count, you say?
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>its another auto-lose battle episode
fuck her
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>>164961458
Okay that does make sense. So in your opinion only the daily 250 pull should be done then?
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>>164962330
NEVER EVER KEK

At least, I think you're done with unwinnable battles at this point.
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>>164962406
I would go so far to say that only 250 pulls on banners for characters you want; I do not see the point in pulling on literally everything that comes up.
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>>164962330
>she joins me
n-nevermind that last comment, yay
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>>164962621
Just don't use her thunder blade skill, it's still bugged to miss 100%
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>>164962596
>I do not see the point in pulling on literally everything that comes up
Because you can get good off-banner stuff. I wouldn't have 7 Zidanes if it weren't for random daily pulls. Only if a banner is particularly terrible (as in even the 3-5*'s TMR is fucking useless) would I recommend not doing your daily pulls. It's not like there's much else you're spending lapis on.
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>>164962835
Once you have a Zidane or two you should stop doing dailies and spend the lapis on TM farming instead
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>>164962621
Beatrix best cyclops
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>>164962715
Steiner's is bugged, Beatrix's works fine
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Should I do an 11 pull on the XIII banner tonight? I have Hope BSB and think that his osb with it could be some fucking shenanigans. I know I should be saving for Orlandu too, though...
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>>164963049
Fuck no, not unless your rank is really high.
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>>164963375
If you really want hopes, then yeah why not. It's pretty good, better than lightning's too.
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>>164963264
"LIES"
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>the story is an FFII reference
neat

>>164962715
I only used her strongest skill once and ran out of MP
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>>164964112
>autism the character
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>>164964165
That was a lovely quest. I really liked it. Wow you the level 6 guy from yesterday? You're really making progress.
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>>164963651
>implying
If you're past rank 50 you should be doing it. That's not that high
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>>164964168
>autism the character
That was Raijin, and to a certain extent, Zell.
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>>164964283
yeah I'm that shitter. Once I got some levels things got a lot easier. It seems like a game of inches in that even the smallest stat increases make huge differences. This became extremely evident when giving steiner a weapon with 4 more attack tripled his attack damage in battle.
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>>164961487
>expecting gumi to put in effort

The translation was dogshit and full of errors, the event lags like fuck and you cant even skip cuntscenes.

Prolly too busy making shitty sprites for irrelevant niggresses that have nothing to do with Final fantasy
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.
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>>164964541
Well, don't forget to level up skills too. Generally you should have Zidane's group be learning skills as you go
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>>164965041
don't speak that way about our queen
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>>164965060
Vayne Solidor? You mean the evil badguy of Final Fantasy XII?
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>Play FFX-2
>It's fun as fuck
Why did no one ever tell me?
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>>164965416
everyone with taste always says it has good gameplay you dingus
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>>164965272
Queen of trash perhaps.

No one even knew who she was, she's just one of Dan "get in the van" Schneiders used up cumrags
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>>164965416
Cause i couldn't get past that god aweful intro. Just shut off the system every attempt
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>>164964168
that's what makes her great
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>>164965539
well she's the queen of /ffg/ now so you'll just have to live with it.
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>>164964515
>that leg
if they ever remake VIII, i hope they make everyone more proportional
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>>164965728
>if they ever remake VIII
never ever bub
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I cant fucking beat Elite fina.

I cant be dealing with 4 aoe nukes in a single turn. This is bullshit
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>>164966154
have you tried to git gud
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>>164966154
> full break
> /auto attack with your 4+1 friend 800 DW attack Noctis
> profit
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>>164965370
No, I mean Vayne Solidor, the True Hero of FFXII.
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This shitty game needs these 2 things, right now:

1) more free good event swords
2) the ability to craft megacrysts using normal crysts
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>>164966717
You need these things right now:

1) not be a disappointment to your parents
2) get laid
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>>164966717
>2) the ability to craft megacrysts using normal crysts
will never ever happen lad. that's how they hook you
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>>164965060
and what did he do right? besides licking gabranths asshole
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>>164966923
Ok, what now?
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>>164966478
Yes, Vayne Solidor, the enemy of the game.
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what's the best approachal way to deal with Exdeath and his dragon?
kill first the pet then Exdeath soul?
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>>164969273
I took out the dragon first. Its abilities are a lot more annoying.
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>>164969273
I took out Exdeath first because I figured the dragon's Confuse counters would be easier to deal with when he was on his own. I equipped KO resist.
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>Crash when I get to Fina
REEEEEEEEE
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>>164969273
Just like any standard house call. You shoot the animal first and then confront the suspect for questioning
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Are we really sure all of Vayne's actions were right? Nobody can do nothing wrong, not even Jesus.
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>>164971076
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>>164969273
I used a mage team so I nuked Exdeath with my chain spells so I could BSB the dragon to death
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>>164969425
>>164970321
>>164970351
ok, so pet first.
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>forgot to equip ant-petrify accessories
whoosp.
was so close too.
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did Pryna die because Luna died or did the dog just get rekt in Altissa?
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>>164971985
Died with Luna.
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>>164972162
Died with Luna how? Like at the same moment? If so, why didn't Umbra die?
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>>164971985
yes. they're spirit animals, or at least that was my impression. No way the dog can get to altissa by itself otherwise
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>>164972315
It's from the Ultimania or something. Just died. Umbra survived cause game mechanics.
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>>164969425
>>164970321
>>164970351
yep. the dragon was the problem.
thanks for the help guys.
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>>164967524
Everything anon.
And do not imply lewd and incorrect things regarding the True Hero.

>>164971076
What do you think he did wrong anon? Can you name a single action?
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>>164958251
>>164958169
unless that noctis has immunity to petrify, confuse, paralyze. you're not going to have a good time
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>>164959346
i beat dark fina last night with this party + friend noctis with 700 atk (he had diabolos/excal) my unit got confused and killed
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>>164973536
I swear to god, her Confuse must have priority over all the other statuses.
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oh no, fina is mad
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anyone else notice that as soon as ariana was announced a lot more newer players started posting?
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>>164945605
Does she like, just give up near the end?
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it's me or Chudo-Yudo (Ultimate) can be chessed with Retaliate?
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>>164973643
>>164973536
it's really RNG i think. i even had black choker/jeweled ring equipped on faris. so luneth, refia and faris were all immune to d. fina's conditions. CoD had partial immunity. i think it was my friend noctis who killed faris and refia in the first turn.
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>>164973712
I started posting because I finished ff15... but even if people started posting because of Ariana, isn't that the point? She's supposed to be bringing new players in.
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GUMIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>164974248
>>164974108
>>164973953
> all those places detailed on the map
> all those locations have NPCs when you break barriers
> the forest city actually has built locations
> there are full lakes and some forests and even dungeon entrances

DLC DLC DLC CUT FOR DLC
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How much of a madman would I be if I pulled on Tyrone selection 1 just to get Faris' Bracers?
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you man enough for the majin?
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it is possible to stack these SBs?
>Shout
>Apcalypse Shield
>OK's BSB
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>>164976124
Yeah, they all provide different combinations, it's in the OP faq. +ATK + ATK/DEF + ATK/MAG.
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>>164975259

rekt'd

did you win?
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Shh, Noct is sleeping.
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>>164976740
don't mock Noct, he's not sleeping there. he's dead there.
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>>164975690
Pretty mad considering it's not even on the banner
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Does the story ever get good in FFX? I enjoy the gameplay - when I get it in between lengthy and nonsensical cut scenes - but the characters and plot aren't compelling to me at all.
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>>164976740
PRINCE NOCTIS WAAAAAKEEE UUUUUUP
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Birb lady was easy. I ignored the feathers.
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>>164976891
I confused Bracers with the Aevis Killa but my point stands. Would it be bad?
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>>164978592
Keep in mind Tyro Selection 1 does NOT have guaranteed 5*
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Fug, I'll never manage to beat any of the U+ of the Ultima event.
Will this stuff come back or never again?
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>>164973669
>>164975787
Did you draw these, anon?
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Dungeon Update when?
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>>164978592
It's her least usable soul break. It's not worth 50 mythril at all.
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>>164978736
arent we on tyro selection 2 now? with guaranteed 5*?
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>>164978736
Jesus, I thought all banners were G5. I think I'll stay sane and not pull.
Just out of morbid curiosity, Tyro Sel 2 isn't G5 either is it?
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>>164978969
never ever. there could be a repeat in the distant future but so far jp hasnt.
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>>164979107
Tyro Banner 2 will give guaranteed 5* yes.

The original Tyro Selection was never updated to give guaranteed 5*, meaning if you pull on it you can in fact go 0/11. You can still pick aevis killer for rolling on it though.
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>dark Fina casts a special BTFO you spell if you cast reflect

O-oh

I thought I was being clever. Is there ever a fucking use for reflect then?
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>>164978969
Ultima weapon will be craftable at some point I imagine, don't know when, or if, that +35 magic item will ever return.
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>>164978993
nah.
if i could draw, there would be a lot more lewds in general.
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>>164974536
And instead they drove away old players who actually spent money.

Gumi retardation at its finest.
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>>164977094
It's pretty cheesy, so if you don't like it now you probably won't later.
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>>164979596
they'll never leave.
they already put too much money, and if they leave it will make them feel like they wasted it.
which they did, because phone game.
so they'll hang on for as long as possible.
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>>164979251
>>164979397
Just fuck my shit up senpai-tachi

Well tiven the low stamina cost I'll try until I fall asleep.
Any must-have abilities?
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i wanna kiss ariana grande. if i tell her i like final fantasy and play brave exvius, will she kiss me?
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>>164979891
It's weak to holy, do your best to capitalize on that. En-holy with holy skills such as saint cross, banishing strike. Healers like vanille and her BSB can shit out holy damage as well. My Vanille was doing ~16k with her 2-hit command 1
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>>164979891
abilities for what anon?
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>>164979912
Why would you want herpes anon?
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>>164979912
i wouldn't touch her after dan the man with the plan did.
just saying
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>>164979912
yes she will transmit her STDs through a kissu to you for only 100,000 lapis
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>>164975468
> there are full lakes and some forests and even dungeon entrances
Source? I want to see this.
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>>164979912
ITS WORKING

t.gumi
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>>164980195
how many lapis for intercourse?
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>>164980636
add another 0 to the original number
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>>164979912
did someone say kissu
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>>164980551
>>164980887
>another old jap with a kid's haircut

why
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>>164980757
so 0,100,000?
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>>164979848
HAHAHAHAHHAHA

good one.

You clearly dont know what you're fucking talking about. whales dont give a fuck.
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>>164980107
this is the best meme, because it's probably true
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>>164981039
i play more phone games than this.
it's always the case.
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>>164979397
Its already craftable
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>>164981068
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>>164981242
No, it isnt.
Do you think that people who drop thousands at the drop of a hat give a fuck?

They flutter from game to game.
They
Dont
Care.
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>>164981435
>not putting a brazzers logo
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>>164973009
Well for example he killed his father. While he did it for a greater cause, that is certainly not a right thing to do.
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So magic is finally better than melee in FFRK again.

How long does this glorious state of affairs last for?
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>soloing Sundaily
>it's another Black Warlock + Magic Dragon round
>it's another "start with no ATB" round

I just want Ironbacks and Magic Pots is that too hard
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Does anyone have a FFBE account I could have with some decent units?

I've been rerolling for the past 3 days and haven't even gotten one rainbow yet.
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About to try ELT, do i need to drop exdeath for a full breaker?
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>>164981435
this will always be my favorite
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>>164981927
ofc
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>>164981927
drop carbuncle for 2* ramuh or 2* shiva with imperil. imperil with refia, full break and omniveil on first turn. that is if you are using cecil's LB on the first turn
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>>164981727
who you leveling?
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>>164982227
whats cloud doing there???
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>>164981962
that smile that says "help me"
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>>164982234
Serah since the new batch of MC3s just came out and I have her BSB. I got one for Arc too but leveling White Mages is a pain as I discovered with Yuna during Orbfest so I used the eggs they threw at us over the season to mostly cap him.

She's already 96 so once she hits cap I'll have literally all my characters maxed again and I'm finishing off the rest of the SSB mastery for the relics I got in Phase 5 of OSB. It's kind of annoying how their event scheduling makes bonus battles drop the day after Sunday so you can't just 99 the MC3 lode out of it.
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>>164981685
About 6 months. Then Cloud USB comes out and breaks the game in favor of melee again.

Do you know what the face of power creep is? Cloud USB RW used on Refia with her BSB up.

Refia's BSB command 1 hits 4 times and has the bonus of +50% crit damage natively (i.e. crits do double damage rather than just 150% damage).

Cloud USB gives guaranteed crits, +30% physical damage, and allows all physical attacks to break the damage cap.

Nothing will survive. Nothing.
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>>164982381
Playing with some pink materia.
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>>164982539
why arc and yuna. they both have summon
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Many of you don't know or haven't even realized this yet but on January 19th it will be possible to have sex with a Final Fantasy character in real life.
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fuck off pedoposter
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>>164982841
did they fuck? is dan "the hymen divider" a final fantasy fan too?
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>>164982779
I don't have any good SBs for Yuna past Lullaby Rod but her Summon boost RM is amazing for Alphinaud to have, and I have both of Arc's SSBs. Before I got it I was thinking of using that MC3 for Selphie instead because of Magic Blink or Minwu, but Arc is practically an upgrade in every way to both of them. Still might if I have any leftover in a dry spell.
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>>164979596
Do you have some sort of learning disability by chance?

Nobody gives a shit about Ariana Grande and the tale of the newborn whales.
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>>164982905
you know dan isn't actually a pedo right it's just because works for nickelodeon
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>>164982597
>Refia
>useful
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>>164983104
>ariana fans
>new whales
>vapid 12 year old girls
>whales

sensible chuckle
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>>164982597
Isn't Cloud's USB a self-buff?
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>>164983368
>he's never seen Dance of Carnage in action

Anon you'll understand once you hit an Apocalypse boss for 7k x 4.
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>>164982597
>implying a shitty monk will be anywhere near damage cap
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What weapon is Aerith holding that allows her to equip 14 materias?
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>>164983802
>materia

theyre rocks anon
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>>164983802
>it's all independent materia
Aerith, please.
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>>164983432
>RW

>>164983562
>>164983368
refia's BSB is fucking crazy are you high?
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>>164983524
I can do that with mages. Except for higher numbers and more consistently. And sometimes with more hits (hi Maria BSB)
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>>164984309
the only one high here is the waifufag defending his waifu
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>>164972469
Umbria survived because he's a servant of Bahamut probably
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>>164982779
he means why did you bother wasting eggs on them when you can just give them summons and wipe the mobs easily
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>>164973712
its quite literally your imagination
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>>164984582
Yes, you are completely correct. Magic > melee right now.

Refia BSB is one of the absolute best melee BSBs even in Japan (where melee > magic again because DeNa fucked up harder with Cloud USB than they did with Sentinel's Grimoire)
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>>164973350
I've fought dark fina a few times and have yet to have confusion proc on me
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>>164976586
no ;_;

right after that she used Dark Kiss and paralyzed Lightning
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>>164984616
I don't give two fucks about Refia but I'm not retarded enough to insist that it isn't one of the best physical BSBs in the entire game
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>>164984870
Didn't waste any eggs on Yuna but I wanted to mostly run Serah's one-man show today and max everyone out so that's why I threw some at Arc.
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>>164984309
>Refia is fucking crazy are you high
FTFY

>Dance of Carnage
BSB command 1: Riddle of the Flame
BSB command 2: Fires of Carnage

Refia is a fucking psychopath mass murderer pyromaniac. Why do you like her?
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>>164985581
I don't, I'm just not ignorant to the meta.
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>>164985581
not him, but fire is exciting and alluring. which is weird because my waifu has a preference on Ice.
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>>164985581
Sounds like a real asshole, just like Vayne Solidor
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>>164985581
Woman + Fire = Disaster.

The only elements that suit women are Ice, Dark, and Poison.
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>>164985581
>tfw I got Zell's BSB instead
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>>164986426
faris is fire.
maybe she gets a pass for acting like a dude though
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Guys, I'm dropping 50 for the goddess. Someone convince me to not do it. I need help.
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>>164986426
>Women + Poison + PMS = ... -said no surviving men ever-
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>>164986594
her OSB is weak, weak! Plus you got TG Cid in like 2 weeks
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>>164985721
When was that screenshot taken? How do I know it was today? How do I know Refia is not lvl 99 and carrying 8* equipment and in your party RIGHT NOW?
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>>164986594
her shit is going to return later with better stuff, Orlandu FFT, a way more rare realm and his stuff is actually usefull AND the aniversary draws are on the distance too.
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lightning sucks roll on banner 2 for cid instead
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>>164984009
MINERALS MARIE!
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>Lightning apparently is shit
>Got her BSB in JP instead of Tidus'
Should I cry?
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>>164986854
It may be a little weak but we don't know if it will ever recur. This may be my last chance.

>>164986910
When? Do you know?

>>164986928
Raines is hella good, yeah. I may do one pull there first and then try for Gladius.

Thanks fellas.
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So what's going to be on the next ffbe banner along with ariana chan?
More shitty global only 6 stars?
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>>164987545
xiao 6* i hope.
that way i can farm for kaiser knuckle.
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>>164987258
Depends if we're talking her BSB1 or 2 here

I have her 2nd BSB and I'm liking it but that might be because I have jack shit for physical bursts
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>>164986594
I literally just pulled and got it, lmao. I barely even play this game.
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>>164987545

Krispy Kreme
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>>164987258
Her OSB'd gimmick is crap. It gets stronger as you use it, but it starts off so weak that it doesn't "break even" with the average 12x multiplier until the third use. The difference is not huge, but it's not acceptable either.

Her BSB2 is great, and so is her SSB1 and SSB2. Also, she gets Powerchain and Full Charge access like Tidus, but can also do Spellblades for you, from the back row too.
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>>164987545
i'm banking on xiao and either artemios or gilbert.
maybe clyne 6*
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>>164987838
lightning would only potentially be back row on 13 realm due to guns. and those guns have shitty attack anyway, why wouldn't you just use a sword
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>>164987764
Can someone explain?
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>>164983412
>depraved, neetbux cunnyposters with nothing left to lose
>not whales
Who exactly do you think Ariana is anon?
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Hows them tmr coming along fuccbois
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>>164988446
Most of those people you're describing are either invested in a twitch streamer alongside those arabian oil baron princes or degenerate furries.
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>>164988448
Resize your images.
There's really no need for your post to be 1.6MB nor 1440x2560.
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>>164988667
That's most of the current whale demographic, yes.

But Gumi SG is smarter than you give them credit for. They see this huge, untapped market of cunnyposters. And they think to themselves, how do we capture this?
The only way they could have done it better is by putting Miranda in, but that'd be harder to cover up because she's no longer popular.
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>>164981642
How was that wrong? He assisted in the suicide of an already dying man whose death in that manner caused a lot of good that it would not have otherwise.
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>>164987545

Fabio, Coolio and Danny DeVito are next
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>>164989030
It was morally wrong.
Then he tried to hit Larsa and cause destruction, and supported the development of dangerous weapons. That's all wrong.
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>>164989030
>suicide of an already dying man
There was no reason to do it other than to claim having killed him. It was made out of pride, more than to "help" anyone else.
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Dungeon update fucking when?
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>became so deranged and murderous that he had to be put down.
i wonder what a 6* for him would look like?
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>>164989030
We're all slowly dying.

By that logic, I could go out into the ICU or a hospice ward and just open fire. It's not murder because they're already dying!
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>>164988448
zidane so close i can taste it
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>>164987998
Because being in the back row may be better than the small attack gain from using a melee weapon? Most characters can hit the soft cap when at lvl 80 and under some kind of buff, so the difference between sword and gun becomes negligible.

The same is true for thrown weapons (which Tidus can equip) but Spellblades >> Sharpshooter.
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>>164988448

>vanille
>vanille
>cecil
>locke
>alma

ok i guess.
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>>164989348
How was it wrong?
It was for the cause of, and would have caused far more good than harm. How could you justify not doing that?

>>164989351
No, he needed something to get the Senate out of the way. Gramis' death in that manner didn't deprive him of much life, and made his death have purpose.
Seems like a win for everyone involved.

>>164989489
His death was certain and quickly approaching, he admits himself that he doesn't have long left. Using his death to implicate the Senate only removes what was likely a few months at most of his life, and turns his death from a completely useless happening to a useful occurrance that could be used as the death blow to an organization that had been against him and effectively his nation his entire life. His death was not only necessary but positively effected even himself.
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>still arguing with Vaynefag in The Current Year of Our Lord and Savior
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>>164990662
current year was last year. What is this year?
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>>164990380
>His death was certain and quickly approaching
Right, that's literally a requirement to get on hospice care.

So what you're saying is there is nothing wrong with shooting up a hospice house.
In fact, it's a good thing because it means the families get their life insurance quicker, and we aren't wasting resources on palliative care for lost causes!

It's for a greater good, so why not do it?
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>>164990380
Do the ends really justify the means?
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>>164988773
Not really sure how on this phone since its just the default screen shot and im fucking retarded.
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>>164988149
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>>164989623
>so close
>10+ days away
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>>164991029
>tfw no krispy kreme on my team
Why even live desu
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>>164991219
>>164991029
>tfw ariana will never lick your donut
why even go on living
I'm already dead
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>>164987720
I'm talking about Overture vs Razzmatazz here.. (Tyro's Selection 3)
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Are you ready for more 15GB patches to add in Niflheim's open world? The last patch added in NPCs, cars, working roads, more foliage, and vault doors.
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>>164985185
>>164975259
What a fool I was to use anything other than double nocty. Went off without a hitch this time, their quad warp strike did 60% hp for a quick wipe next turn.

I'm seeing the power of chaining though, they both have excalibur and with that imperil the elemental chain did some crazy damage
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>>164991152
>implying

Just needed to clear up that moogle problem real quick. And this banner sucks so it's time for lapis refreshes. I'll have it real soon
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>>164991504
final fantasy XV more like incomplete failure XV, am I right?
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>>164991973
Not really. It didn't bomb.
>>
Every time I try and play FFBE I almost fall asleep because I can't get over how fucking tedious it is to do anything in that game.
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>>164991973
Despite all the missing plot holes it was still an amazing game. I wouldn't call it a failure at all.
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>>164990896
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shoozhoo.imageresizer&hl=en
[Usage]
-When you attach a file, select "Reduce Photo Size".
-Push "Pickup Image".
-Tap on Screen and push "Reduce".
-Select size you wants
-Push "Done".
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>>164992102
Your next line will be
>keep telling yourself that, it sold less than half what XIII did in a week
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>>164992660
Not really, but here's a (you) for trying.
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oh no tifa is in trouble
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>>164992218
XV was a new experience for me, I've never played a game where I both loved it and was disappointed with it.
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>>164992660
keep telling yourself that, it sold less than half of what XIII did in a week
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>>164993184
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>>164993291
man akko sure turned into a slut
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>>164985581
Refia is bipolar.

On one hand(WoFF/BE), she's a qt healer who will kiss your boo-boos away and the other hand(RK) she's a psychopath mass murderer pyromaniac who fists her way through your enemies.
>>
If I only have their BSBs, who's more useful, Minfilia or Noel?
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>>164993646
DPS-wise probably minfilia. She en-holies her self, and continues to do holy damage. she also gets 2 hits per action instead of 1.
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>>164992971

source?!?!
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>>164994990
the artist ishimiso/ishimura
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>>164975259
Fuck off filthy Reddit crossposter.
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>>164993646
Go with Minfilia unless Noel has synergy. He has the advantage of being able to trigger Full Breakdown but that's about it.
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>>164993646
Hard to say. Noel's BSB gives you one free slot (LS+X) and Minfilia saves you zero slots (FB+LS) but does more damage because of EnHoly.

Unless you plan to build SB from something other than LS, like MM/DMT.
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>>164996572
Full break has outlived its usefulness. Just PBD and MBD does fine these days. And she can do those on her command skills.
>>
JP
Last banner: Monster Hunter collaboration
This banner: Kingsglaive
Next banner: FFVII

GL
Last banner: Krispy Kreme
This banner: Krispy Kreme
Next banner: Krispy Kreme

Literally why are you still playing Global?
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>>164996738
>Full break has outlived its usefulness
How so? That's a pretty bold statement.
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>>164992497
Thanks anon
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>>164996875
our girl Ariana is all the reason you need.
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>>164996875
>Next banner: FFVII
hold up what
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>>164996875
i play jp, but i want to know what the hell is going on.
>>164997479
he's assuming since the remake is almost out, i'm expecting at least two more oc events before that banner though
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>>164997952
>>164997479
>>164996875
>FFVII
No familias, we are getting job specific banners next, before then, probably an OC donut enhancement event.
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>tfw need to kill antonella but everyone is using fire weapons on my friendlist
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>>164997952
>he's assuming since the remake is almost out

Did I miss something?
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>>164999549
ah you're right.
february is an event about vii
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>>164999926
>february
Wait, where are you getting this shit?
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>>164999926
quit messing with people's hearts
>>
Proper XV event when?
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>>165000418
maybe when the game is a year old. then they will give us the 10 years later dress uniforms. along with Ignis Prompto and Gladiolus
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>>164996875
>Next banner: FFVII

What? Pretty sure we get a Gaiden next turn.

Also, Anale Grande is confirmed for JP, too. I wonder if they have her alongside the other Donuts in the story or just as a banner unit.
>>
>>164975468
The DLC will probably be 30 minute fetch quest in Lucis.
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>>165000885
>Anale Grande is confirmed for JP
Source? In the NicoNico Stream I saw nothing of her.
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>>165002370
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Faltema.jp%2Fffbe%2Farianacollabo-39342&edit-text=&act=url

> In this collaboration, singer Ariana Grande will be implemented in the game as a character of FFBE in both the Japanese version and the global board.
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gimme some meme magic for this RK banner in 20 minutes, it's the only thing that gets me good rolls anymore
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>>165002627
what? a new banner already?
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>>165002627
Uh, anon, the event dropped on Friday. Bonus battles shouldn't even be here until Monday at the earliest.
>>
So when's the holiday event thing for ff15
>>
>>165002773
bonus battles aren't on sunday anymore?
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>>165002985
it's not a set day, it's always a set amount of days after the event comes out. with our previous schedule before orbfest it was landing on sunday a lot.
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>>165002773
I'm ready for the return of Ultimate Dispel: Multiplayer edition tommorow
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>>165002985
They were on Saturdays for a while, even. It's all to do with when the event drops (3, sometimes 4 like what happened with XIV), so I'm kind of annoyed they had an event drop on Friday so I couldn't get my MC3 grind started immediately.
>>
This Mobius day has been worthwhile.
Got Hermes, augmented it to 4* fusioned a lot of cards together.
The only thing that's still bothering is not being able to get any cards to increase Barrier's lvl.
The wiki's location seem to be wrong as I have gotten not a single Dust Bandit on Runic Temple 2nd Floor as it says.
Anyone know any other worthwhile place?
>>
>>165002614
>another unit nerfed for GLcucks
I told you faggots noctis was only the beginning
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stacked spats-chan a qt
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>>165003434
>spats
hang yourself weeb
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>>165003116
did she take his virginity?
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>>165002614
>I am waiting for a collaboration with Iguana
What did he mean by this?
>>
>>165003084
I heard he can dispel stat buffs along with Protect/Shell/etc. Does this include Burst Mode?
>>
>>165003434
Wow. Didn't realize until now, but her body is all kinds of messed up. Her boobs are like half way down her torso
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>>165003635
It means your translator a shit.

>>165003743
>Ramzafags on suicide watch
>>
I don't have a ramza but should I buy the stone for his enchantment this event or another blue one for Charlotte's +2 with the MP Regen?
>>
>>165003882
Are you saying you don't use any stat boosters?
>>
>>165004261
>Doesn't have Ramza
>Spends stone for him
I know job specific banners are coming but wat?
>>
>>165003084
>it's yet another Barthandelus rerun episode

Fuck, I'll never be free of that shit-eating grin.
>>
>>165004424
Of course I do use Shout, SG, and Stoneskin, but I don't blow down to them like a god!
>>
>>165003882
>>165003635
Google translate is usually pretty ebin, but this time isn't the case
>イグアナとのコラボ待ってます

Literally says "I look forward to the iguana collab"
>>
>>165003743
Going to have to wait and see, I know stun can stop burst mode but don't know about this one

Speaking of, the last two bosses for this translation batch are going to be epic
>Cuchulainn, sleep, silence, slow, and stun attacks, with the return of an AoE and a small chance of instant KO move :^)
>Rubicante with an AoE fire elemental damaging Ultimate Dispel and the ability to inflict imperil fire with counterattacks while his cloak is up, better hope you don't have shitters kupo!
We're in for some fun times
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>almost accidentally bought the dark fina box
i need to pay more attention
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How bad did Vanille smell after not bathing for about 500 years?
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>>165004261
I wouldn't suggest enhancing charlotte's MP regen, it actually makes her regen weaker since its spread out for more turns
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give xiao
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I'm on a major JRPG kink right now, I just want a fun game all I have is a PC and a 3DS and I'm too lazy to emulate what options do I have
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>>165005489
what for?
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>>165005565
Without a doubt, you should play Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius - Global Edition.

The best JRPG.
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>>165005681
for innate dual wielding cheongsam action
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>>164990742
That's a poor comparison, the end results would be the same just with slightly different timing. With Gramis' death, had it been held off the Senate would not have been able to be disbanded at all.

>>164990821
Yes, we've been through this one before too.
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>>165005932
already fused my lv 80 Xiao to Exdeath
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>>165006338
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>>165006182
and?
i still got mine.
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>>165006397
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>>165005307
Well if she was frozen, she doesnt smell.

The real question is when was the last time she bathed?
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>>165006462
you should do the same
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>>165005798
>the worst budget chicken sandwich

Kys my guy.
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>>165005798
>>165007243
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>>164995458
>only people who browse Reddit would know
You need to go back.
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>>164983524
>7k x 4.

Where do you get 7k? Mine tends to hit 5k uncritical and ~9999 crits
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>>165007180
as a collectorfag, i can't do that.
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>>165005565
Steam - play XIII, XIII-2, LRXIII.
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>>165005565
FIRE EMBLEM AWAKENING
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>>165006118
>the end results would be the same
Except for, you know

The billions of dollars worth of taxpayer money and countless man hours wasted on people who are already going to die soon.
Fact: society would be better off with those resources allocated anywhere else. We're pumping corpses full of morphine and medicine that could be going to people worth saving instead.
So because it's better off this way, I am morally justified in my actions.

Also, some of you guys are alright. Don't be terminally ill tomorrow.
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>>165007624
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>>165007112
When was the last time she washed down there?!
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>>165008410
when fang did her daily cleaning
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>>165007624
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>>165008306
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>>165008656
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>>165008656
It wasn't but Toriyama and Kitase trying to save face was. Also, that launch party.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFWGmfRiPzU
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>>
>>
Reminder: Ever since Square betrayed Playstation for multiplatform every game has gotten worse. Konami betraying Playstation did the same to Metal Gear.

Dealing with Microsoft ruins franchises.

It's not surprising then that the executives that betrayed Playstation also betray their veteran directors, writers, and artists as well.
>>
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>>165008306
Why was he in a wheel chair?
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>>165009406
Marilith nearly killed him
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I made it to the top of the mountain

In mobius!


Any mountain summit bros here?
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>>165009406
Gentiana's hips were moving on their own.
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>>165009594
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>vivi finally finds a village of other vivis
>learns they die after a year
i didn't want these feels ; ;
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>>165008981
WTF?!
She sounds nothing like Lightning.
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>>165009593
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>>165009406
They secretly sent a monster after his as a child in order to break his legs, so that when he came for healing in Tenebrae with Luna, he'd have a harder time resisting the long days and nights of unending treatment.
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>>165009769
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>>165010171

This is a skyrim reference
Correct?

Sorry haven't finished the game ?

Also dat captcha..
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>>165009557
>Marilith
Is it ever explained int the game why she attacked them?
In the movie, or miniseries(whatever), she appears later being brought up by soldiers to attack them. Was she part of their enemies from the beggining?
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wew
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At least it's on-banner unit.
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>>165010885
Wow cute!
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This CM got me to craft an R2 Nothern Cross. Was fun to do something that wasn't the standard 5-man U+ shit.
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Can Dark Fina's magic attacks be reflected by Carbuncle's Esper summon?
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>>165011540
I think someone posted no

Or she gets around it some how
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>>165011540
no she fucks you up with an aoe dispel/darkness damage if you use carbuncles esper summon
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So is everyone going to shatter Morbid Countdown or what or what
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>tonberry king in woff uses everyone's grudge
>Hits reynn for 14k and lann for 7k
Jesus
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>she's a 2nd white mage/summoner
but why?
p-please tell me they aren't going to kill dagger off ; ;
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>>165013092
Anon....
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>>165013092
This UI really bugs me.
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>>165011309
CM was easy as shit with double healer BSB RW strat
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>>165010885
I'm hoping to pull her after my daily pull today got me Dark Fina. I don't care too much about the black sheep of Nichol's family since he is a 3* base compared to both his brother who is an innate 4* and his sister who is an outright 4*.
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>>165013092
Eiko is the Devout compared to Dagger who is the Summoner. Even the trances they have pretty much tells what job is their primary.

>Eiko gets the signature Devout Cat Ears while Dagger gets Rydia's lewd leotard in trance
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>>165011540
>>165011695

Someone tried and failed

>>164979294

> Is there ever a fucking use for reflect then?

You can cast reflect, cast an -aga spell on your own team, and it will reflect and hit 6 times on 1 target.
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>>165013432
hang yourself.
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>>165013092

Jesus that ability menu is huge as fuck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dms58hFsz74
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>>165014431
Each patch has added more content to the continent on both sides anon. By the end of the year we'll have the game we were supposed to get.

They're finishing the game through patches kek
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>>165011559
what the flying fuck

as a south-east asian I am offended and intrigued
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hey guys im really enjoying BE though im having a trouble with clearing story on miranda coast and the new event with dark fina. any tips would be appreciated, here's my team
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>>165014767

1) grind more, levels should be maxed if you want to clear the fina event
2) get high level friends to carry you
3) Bedile is trash, swap him from someone else.
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>>165014767
also sidenote ive been spending the past week farming gil in the vortex
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>>165014767
Is this a joke?
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>>165014431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5GGxzxGEvs
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>>165014767
>rank 12
>maranda coast
eat a bag of dick
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>my normie friend is expecting a happy ending

This game must be so sad to people
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what was the disagreement between Cid and Regis that drove them to never talk face to face again?
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>>165014712
Explain.
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>tfw trance always activates on a random encounter
JUST
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>>165015560
>having a friend
fuck off normie
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>>165015561
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>>165015283
i cant get to maranda coast because my characters keep on wiping. i heard it's the best place to level up
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>>165015258
>those 2D buildings
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>>165015761
>tentacled_wooden_penis.jpg
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Someone post picture of fat prompto with a gun in his hand
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>>165016375
picture of fat prompto with a gun in his hand
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>>165015761
They really modeled Garnet's ass well
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>he opens with level 5 death
well shit
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>>165015258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VpEvrEHp78

WAT
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Should I do a 50 pull on the first XIV banner, one of the Tyro banners, or just save my mythril?
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>>165015706
It's a bastard amalgamation of two dishes
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>>165014767
Who do you have right now? Right now you are still low ranked enough that you can do rerolls if Terra and Luka are your best units.
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>>165016646
just throw him an elixir and he dies.
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>>165017032
Oh, neat. It has the chicken and rice part alone. What's the other thing? A sandwich?
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>>165016957
Depends on what you have.

If you're missing any part of the trinity, pull on XIV. The worst relic on it is Wall, which will help any new player greatly. Best case scenario is that you score some new top tier SSBs.
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>>165009845
Mark Hamill sounds nothing like the Joker
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>>165017212
The only thing I have from the XIV banner is Thyrus and really all I would want is more stuff for Y'sholta or stuff to replace my few remaining 4* armors.
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>>165017201
Well that's specifically Thosai / Dosa, which is cooked differently in different regeions but it's basically a pancake-like thing with maybe some filling.

The tray though is frequently paired with that as it provides additional pockets for various sauces/curries. FFXV also has the standalone roti + curry, which features the same tray with roti prata / paratha.

Now the previous image is more interesting, because (Hainanese) Chicken Rice is a Chinese dish, while the whole prata/dosa+curry business is Muslim. These two cuisines tend to intersect in Southeast Asia, BUT NOT IN THE SAME DISH IN THIS WAY.

Hence the simultaneous offense and intrigue
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>>165017201
thats a dosa
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Does anyone want to clear the Gilgamesh MP fights? I was able to clear the XIV fights solo, but I don't have enough instant KO resist to make gilgamesh easy enough to solo.

>>165016957
its a good banner; multiple good buffs and great BSBs.
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>>165017542
Isn't this a Malaysian or Singapore thing? I think I've eaten it before. A kind of fried bread with curry dipping or something. Damn, there's so much shit I haven't screenshotted yet.
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Someone post that picture of the guys all playing shitty mobages at camp?
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>>165017694
indian
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Do you ever get aranea in your party again after the first dungeon?

The way she dismounts her lance after link strikes are very....
Nice
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>>165017697
Be nice, anon.
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>>165017694
In the pic? The pastry-like thing is prata, and yes it's usually served in curry, but not usually in that tray.

The American equivalent would be like... serving you a hotdog (with bun) on a plate with a steak knife. There's nothing wrong with it, but that's usually not how it works

>>165017694
I think it's actually muslim
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>>165017851

You can glitch her into perma status.
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>>165017851
yes
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Jesus fucking Christ, Brave Exvius is consuming my life now.
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>>165017851
You can glitch her in, and she'll randomly show up sometimes during overworld battles.
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>>165017165
>spoonfeeding

jfc
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>>165018263
>Iris is Odin
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>>165017669
yeah maybe
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>240 AP to learn counter
the fuck
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>>165018178
macro and do other things dont even do arena
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>>165018069
How?
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>>165017669
Sure I can do it, but only Apocalypse since I need to save up stamina for one last bit of Sundaily. Needed to get one last bit of EXP to master Onion Knight's BSB so if you're still up for it we can party up and either open up to randoms or get /ffg/ people depending on how it goes.
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>>165018515
>using amarant
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>>165018515
>using the flaming faggot
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>>165018178
I just macro now. I cant even be bothered to arena for anything other than 60-70k ranking per week.

>>165018504
if anyone wants to commit, I'm likely bringing paplymo and either Maria or Alph.
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>>165018515
Yeah, counter is a 1 for 1 counter. doesn't have a % chance.

plus most of his weapons teach counter.
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>>165019062
Fuck, I was bringing Alphinaud + OK. Alphinaud I can live without but I could probably bring Ingus instead for the usual Draw Fire meme strat.
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>>165019062
if you guys are doing apoc I can help out, don't want to waste too much stamina
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>>165018597
Fuck that. I pulled every 5* since I started playing with free summon tickets, aside from Noel. Noctis is raep. Fuck you Gumi for putting no status effects or no fire damage on every arena since he got released.

Debating if Letters and Arms is worth putting on him. Have four Inguses (Ingii?) that I was going to TM farm for a mage team for Exdeaths or whatever, since they stack in Global for some retarded reason unlike Doublehand or Blade Mastery. Since pulling Dark Fina I feel like I'm fucking up if I don't use her. But I need a whole other set of TMs to farm for a mage crew.
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>>165013451

Oh snap !

Can anyone confirm?

That sounds like a problem solver
Right there
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>>165019193
Just got back into FFRK. Only have low 70s and no grade 3 level cap crystals. Should I be mucking around with any raid stuff or just doing my dailies to farm orbs and shit?

Only have SS2 with a lucky Y'shtola pull, Gilg's BSB, Seph Yoshiyuki, Ramza medica / prot, Lightning's AOE Super, and Tifa's boostga for "noteworthy" SBs.
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>>165019203
don't bother with that tm

exdeath is only good in arena and only needs 300 mag to get 999 meteor, and noctis' best offense skill is only based off attack
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>>165019193
>>165019194
>>165018805
Original anon here; I'll bring Tyro (wall) and Maria (BSB).

we still use 7243 right?
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>>165019487
Which one's that? Warp Break?
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>>165019556
yes
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>>165019520
If you need someone to do the 60 stamina afterwards I'll help, not really doing sunday funday this week
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>>165019840
Yeah - I'll repost when that's happening.

FOr now, we've got Tyro/Maria, Ingus/OK, and Vanille/Alph. Dunno what else we need, but got room for 1. Remember KO resist.
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>>165014431
No way in hell Niflheim won't be DLC.
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>>165019487
Is a mage crew useful at all or would Lightning / Chiz / Noctis just shit all over 2x Exdeath / Dark Fina or Ex / Noct / DFina?

.. will probably TM up a group of them anyway just for shits and giggles, but.
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>>165019425
Low 70s is good enough to get carried through U+ raids for the mythril and motes. May as well, but you're going to have to get lucky with both putting a party together and in the fight itself if you want a hope of beating Apocalypse MPs.

>>165019963
Alph is wind damage, OK is boost, Ingus is Draw Fire stuff against the shitty Death Claws thing. Maybe we could use a second source of healing or more stackable breakdowns.
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>>165019963
>>165020090
trust me, we want a second healer
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>>165020090
>>165019425
dont forget there's 0 harm in trying the raids, you don't lose any stamina unless you win
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Fine. Sorry.
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>>165020225
it's more of we're hoping to grab a 4th that isn't a complete random.
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>>165020004
lightning/d fina/noctis because they're rare and have better sprites
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>>165018023
The fuck? Its fucking indian dude. Roti is the bread. do you not have indian or west indian people in your country?
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>>165013092
>doesn't know about Holy and double white trance
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>>165019298
can't you use it with alterna? 33.915x magic damage without factoring in chaining
>>
Can someone show me a good, long review of FFXIII?
There is this five or six parts one on youtube but it's full of irrelevant crap and I'm not sure if I want to continue watching it.
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>My one whale friend went full madman and went all in on decking out Mercedes

and she's still shit lmao
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>>165020364
Should I make the group public so we at least attempt?
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>>165018023
>its muslim

Jesus christ lmao its a fucking religion not culture. Thats like saying pasta is christian
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>>165020713
up to you, after this long talking about it i think we would have gotten another. maybe wait til :20 and then go pub
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>>165020604
Mercedes goes from eh to baller as fuck when Tidus and Odin hit GL.
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>>165020730
Pasta is clearly Christian anon. The limp noodle dick of our lord covered in his blood to bless this meal.
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>Got Kaiser Fists for Yda
>AND Etro's Embrace for Lightning

All just after swearing off buying stuff in the game. How 'bout it.
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>>165020435
Ah, where I grew up it's actually usually labelled as Indian Muslim food. But it looks like it actually does originate from

>>165020730
There are so many wrong statements in this that I cannot adequately respond to them
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Got an /ffg/ anon on DM who says he can provide a fourth, hang on.
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>>165020754
>>165020713
I can join in like one hour (currently on a boss raid in XIV+only 10 stamina left)
choose what do you want me to bring.
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>ywn write her a love letter

>>165018886
>>165018958
I just got him, figured I should at least see what he's got going
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>>165020754
made it public. that meteor OK has me worried..but whatever.
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>>165021015
beatrix is the party member we deserved
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>>165020531
>>
> The same guy that voiced Ardyn voiced Odin for the special Famitsu video Square made of FFXIs Treasures of Aht Urhgan

Well that actually explains a lot. Ardyn even dresses like he came from that expansion pack.
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>>165020887
>where I grew up
>a place that distinctly seperates
muslim indians and hindi indians

Holy shit are you literally Manel Patel from Punjab
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>>165020990
>>165021047
sorry, I should have refreshed when you said hold on. if we need to remake thats fine.
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>>165021135
Be honest /ffg/, are the XIII games really that bad? I'm going to play them anyway, I just want to know what you think.
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>>165020529

not sure about alterna but ultima and meteor can't be reflected
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>>165021280
yes
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What emulator do you guys use to run macros for TMR farming in BE?
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>>165021280
Honestly? Ive only played xiii-1. It just a disappointment and boring at times. Its a very underwhelming game. It's pretty to look at though. I'd give it a 7 out of 10.
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>>165021175
4th guy here should have been quicker myself, so no worries

If you fail I'll bring in Tyro's BSB and Kain BSB I guess? Got Shout/Arc's SSB2 if you need that too. This is probably what I'll bring in for the 60 stam run if you need that after
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>>165021280
Just start with XIII and after 20 hours come back and tell us how you feel.
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Sorry guys, apparently "instant cast" means "first enkidu BTFOS you real quick"
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>>165021280
Stunningly mediocre.

Very impressive graphics, great music, but a boring story with an atrocious presentation, a battle system that under-utilizes its potential so much that it becomes mostly boring, a completely lack of exploration and terrible world-building and awkward pacing means you don't care at all about anything that's happening

There's nothing that's completely broken or bad in the game, there's just nothing that's good enough to pull you in
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>>165021280
XIII is a boring piece of shit. history and gameplay wise.

XIII-2 is XIII but they fixed all the original problems, is very enjoyable, the story is mehh.

XIII-LR is DMC3 and Majora's Mask lovechild. I loved it, but that just me. the story is still mehh.

>>165021370
MeMu
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>>165021505
>>165021472
No worries, I'll remake in a two minutes if you all want to try again. I'll ditch my Tyro for Yshtola (still have wall, but can also be a second healer with curaja/shellga)
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>>165021280

XIII has a promising character arc, but it ends in a wet fart. XIII-2 improves on XIII, but is still subpar with one of the best "fuck you"s in gaming history to prop it up. LR/XIII-3 is an entertaining teainwreck and makes you wonder why these versions of XIII characters weren't in the first XIII to begin with.
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>>165021664
Van/Alph here, I'll rejoin. 2 healers is definitely the way to go for Apoc, shit gets cheesy
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Where can I get 6 4* Wisdom motes?
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>>165021797
>>165021664
Room is up - join whenever you're ready.
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>>165021664
Wall is actually not that useful during the lategame phase apparently, since Zantetsuken ignores DEF and shit.
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>>165022001
Eh, I don't have many better options for healing (Minwu SSB). I really wish that changes to the party showed up.
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>>165022162
Ysh is great for those types of battles since you can switch to BSB instead of re-walling

I like bringing vanille since she can turn to offense if you're good on healing
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>Joined with Gilgamesh/Yuffie
>Ignus already there to do retaliate shit
>party fills and starts as I had to back out and change party members

Fuck. Good luck to you guys
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>mfw hearing the main FF theme at the end of XV

Pleasantly surprised with the game, I had absolutely no hype for it until I played it. Biggest complaint with the combat was the elixir spam, you can just spam elixirs all day. There should have been a limit to how many you can use per battle on yourself. Thinking of giving myself a challenge when replaying it, is there some sort of constructed ruleset made by the community to give yourself a self imposed challenge, aka poverty hard mode?

I'm not sure why Noctis was the only one who could return light to the world, what was it about him that allowed him to kill Ardyn and end the Starscourge?
Lastly in the ending where it shows Luna and Noctis; are they in the afterlife?
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>>165021354
>>165020529
Anything that pierces DEF cannot be reflected.

So Ultima, Meteor, Flare.
Multihit spells also presumably bypass it, as seen by Tornado.

In reality, there's a separate table in the game that checks whether a spell is reflectable, so there doesn't necessarily have to be any reason to it. The leddit dataminer found the JSON file that lists reflectable spells a while ago.

>>165019298
Nignog you've been able to do this since reflect was invented

So like, FFIII.
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>>165022678

Yes they are dead. They pulled a Titanic with that ending
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so my voidtree seems to not be accepting anymore mag pots.
should i just use them on krill, or build up an arc?
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>>165022809
both are trash
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>>165022564
sorry bro another anon had done the same thing, you joined while they were out and then rejoined when you left
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>>165022678
>Thinking of giving myself a challenge when replaying it, is there some sort of constructed ruleset made by the community to give yourself a self imposed challenge, aka poverty hard mode?

Download the free holiday DLC from PSN. There's an accessory that stops you from tallying EXP at rest points. You can do a level 1 run.

Yea, the afterlife dreaming about you playing through noct's memories.
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>>165022901
nevermind, i forgot shantotto.
i'll just build her for her eventual 5*
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>>165021280
No, they are masterpieces of gaming as a trilogy.

It's linear, but who the fudge cares about that (skyrim kiddies, i guess). its characters are great, the music is unironically 10/10, the graphics are 10/10, the art and atmosphere are 10/10. combat is 9/10 (its too easy at times, but the ideas are solid and chain/stagger is something i would like to see again in FF).
the writing/dialogue is FF tier (but not bad).

it is the first truly polished, complete, refined, focused FF in the series. XIII-2 and LR are a continuation of XIII's excellence with technical improvements wherever needed.

anyway, just play them and see for yourself. its like trying to explain to high school kids why dostoyevsky is worth reading - a person has to experience art to understand.
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>>165022943
Worst part of the entire game
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>>165020531
There exist these gods called Fal'Cie in Cocoon and Gran Pulse which are two planets that maybe orbit each other(IDK, they're just close).
Anyways, one day Serah, Lightning's sister meets a girl which is actually a L'Cie(L'Cie are humans chosen by the gods to do their biddings, if you don't then you turn into a monster, and if you do then you turn into a crystal). The gods in Cocoon and Gran Pulse apparently hate each other and the missions they give to L'Cie is to find ways to fuck up the other's planet. So if a Fal'Cie sees a L'cie from the other planet it will try to defent itself by turning a human that's close by into a L'Cie to protect it.
So going back into the meeting of Serah with a certain L'Cie. a Fal'Cie was close by and saw the Lcie from the other planet so it turned Serah into a L'Cie.BTW, the other L'Cie was actually Vanille who had just woken up from crystal form after 500 years of ... well being a crystal, because she had completed her mission 500 or so years ago.

Continue?
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>>165018137
I wish she was actual party member. The banter was interesting.
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Is the carnival portion of the holiday dlc open yet? did I miss something?
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WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT GILG ENDING HOLY FUCK
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>>165023202
expect her to fall as DLC
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F-Fungaaah?
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>>165008764
gentiana-noctis ss when?
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>>165023341
lmao. I think we needed more than one boostga. If people want to go for mastery (not sure who actually needed it other than host), or do the d160, speak up.
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>>165023085
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>>165023162
>completed her mission
>has to do another mission immediately upon waking up
This seems gay.
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>>165023341
*zantetsukens behind ur party 1 million times*
psh... pathetic
*paralyzes and KOs your BSBers right before they go off*
nice damage..... kids.....
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>>165022943
>>165023104
I had to go through that damn fight four times before I figured out what you're supposed to do. Naga and Giants mixed group was worse than the four Giants though.
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>>165008764
Is that the only time she opens her eyes in the game?
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>>165023162
I'm pretty sure that the entire Pulse/Cocoon Fal'cie war was a myth, and they were all working together to destroy Cocoon and bring back their god.
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>>165023341
>>165023471
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>>165023539
no
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>>165023454
>has to do another mission immediately upon waking up
I'm not sure but I think she didn't.
I think she was just looking for a way out of She had just woken upwith Fang in Cocoon and they were looking for a way back into Gran Pulse.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>165023162
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>>165023380
>both members down and nothing to do but emote
This hand of mine burns with an awesome power!
Take this! My love, my anger, and all of my FUNGAAAAAAH!
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>>165023589
I didn't want to spoil the ending just yet.
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>>165023341
>kain bsb just barely missed the kill
>mfw

>>165023419
I think we're safe if I swapped Tyro for Ramza if we need another boostga if you want to rerun it
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>leveling Cloud for his RM3
>he has 0 (zero) aoe skills useable for the daily
that's fucking annoying
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>>165023589
He said he hasnt played the games yet. JEEZ.
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>>165023859
The ending is really stupid though

>Characters spend 8 chapters with no real goal other than survive
>Barty shows up and goes "Hey faggots kill me"
>Party says no, leaves, wanders around with no real goal other than hope they stumble across a solution to their problems completely randomly
>Barty shows up again in chapter 11, says "fine, if you fags won't kill me, I'll get Cid's guys to do it"
>Party goes "hmm, we know that Cid is dead and it's impossible for any of his men to actually hurt Barthandelus, but let's go to his lair anyways just to make sure
>Go to Barty's secret floating lair thingey
>Barty says "Hey I was totally lying about Cid's guys but since you're already at my throne you wanna just kill me while you're here? I'll torture you until you say yes".
>Party goes "fuck it" and kills him and wife's Orphan
>Fang and Vanille save the day at the last minute via deus ex machina


The problem with FFXIII's plot is that it's really, really dumb, and tries to hide how dumb it is by being unnecessarily obtuse.
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>>165023885
Your Tyro was actually pretty clutch I think. M.Blink caught at least a few of those aerogas.
If there's any interest, I'm reposting + taking out the trash; so planning to start somewhere between :10 and :15. I'll bring Yshtola + Alphinaud this time (radiant shield and/or BSB).
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>>165023406
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>>165023162
>Cocoon and Gran Pulse which are two planets that maybe orbit each other(IDK, they're just close).

Cocoon is an artificial habitat created by the Fal'cie to be a paradise for humans to live in. It orbits the larger planet. People who live in Cocoon call the planet Pulse, the people who live on the planet call it Gran Pulse for some cultural reason that's never explained.
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>>165024146
You forgot to mention that they killed Jihl.
Or whatever her name was.
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>>165024146
It's not dumb at all, anon. They are given an impossible mission that goes completely against what they believe. With few realistic options left, they attempt to confront their fate and hope for a solution to their impossible focus like true knights of faith. Because of their conviction, they break free from their focus with the help of God.

Read Kierkegaard and of his dea of a knight of faith.
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>>165024485
>they killed Jihl
they killed the only interesting character outside Sazh and Snow after giving her little to nothing screentime.

fuck you Toriyama, and fuck your shitty waifu too!
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>>165024485
Who the fuck cares? She's as irrelevant as Ravus, except you actually get to fight him. Sure, her design is hot, but she accomplishes nothing.
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>>165024203
If you're bringing Alph for the wind medals I can bring Firion BSB for the mblink freeing up ramzanon to go full ramzanon
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>>165024585
I forgot to spoiler this, I apologize. Don't read - people who havent played XIII.

>>165024648
>hot chars DESERVE screentime
who is the waifufag now?
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Do i need to put power breakdown on yshtola? i'm not actually kidding with this setup
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Alright gatcha bros i'm sitting on 150 star quartz...is anything from the fat chocobo shop worth it? I'm thinking maybe some earrings for exdeath or possibly a black garb/black belt for snow
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>>165023721
Yeah but they turn into crystals at the end, so it implies they completed a second focus.
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>>165024784
not the worst idea if we don't have another source desu
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>>165024847
>black garb
>using star quartz for shit
just craft Black Belt Gi instead
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what's wrong with this dude's face
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>>165024650
>but she accomplishes nothing.
Because she is BTFO before her boss fight even starts!
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>>165024847
I giggled.

Also you can spend for Earrings if you want, now. Or you can save for shit like Curaja, Auto-Refresh, etc later. Earrings are still great even in JP though, so if you have a lot of Quartz and you have a mage focused team, go for it.
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>>165024585
>With few realistic options left, they attempt to confront their fate and hope for a solution to their impossible focus like true knights of faith.

If by "confront" you mean "do absolutely nothing but run away the entire game". There are multiple chapters, including chapter 11, which is like 15 hours long, where the characters explicitly have no idea what they are doing and are just wandering around hoping that a solution to their problems will just drop into their lap. At no point do they ever actually succeed or accomplish anything other than run away. Even at the end, they aren't trying to confront Barty, they're trying to stop other people from confronting him.

> Because of their conviction, they break free from their focus with the help of God.

They do literally exactly what the villain wants at the end fulfill his goal, he straight up wins, and then they get saved by a deus ex machina that explicitly contradicts everything the game had said about it previously. They don't struggle against anything. This cannot be stressed enough, they do EXACTLY what he wants despite KNOWING what the consequences will be just because he uses some illusion magic to torture them a bit. The game tries to pretend that standing up to Bart is somehow this big fate-defying moment, where they stand up for their "conviction" but it's not, it's what he wanted them to do from day 1. It is the exact fucking opposite of what you just said.
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>>165024983
I think Vanille got a second focus at the same time the rest of the party did.
I think that's the reason Fang's brand was the way it was while Vanille's resembled the rest of the party.
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>>165025060
>all those moments where the bad guys want your qt Warrior of Light girl to be their slave or humiliate herself in front of them
XIV truly provided excessive jerkoff moments. Fuck yes for starting off in Ul'dah. Also Rogue missions stand out.
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>>165025112
I don't but i do plan on leveling my Exdeath for my evil guys in armor team. Earrings it is!
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>>165024784
If you want a healer that also breaks then you should just use Gordon but if you don't have him with a soul break or Tyro then she could certainly work even if the best thing to do with her is give her protect/shellga + curaja.
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>>165025220
I thought so at first. But Fang crystallizes too.
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>>165025220
>I think that's the reason Fang's brand was the way it was while Vanille's resembled the rest of the party.

Vanille's didn't resemble the rest of the party though, it was clearly way, way ahead.

Additionally, she starts with an extra ATB bar when everybody else doesn't get one until they get branded, foreshadowing that she had one all along.
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>>165024847
Save it for man eater materia
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>>165025060
He's seen some shit AND I FOUND THE FUCKING PICTURE OF YDA
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>>165025353
I always just saw it as a spell they cast on themselves rather than crystallization from completing their focus.
Especially since they are the only ones that crystalize and the rest of the party doesn't turn to neither crystal nor monsters.
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>>165025449
>brown/black eyebrows

yda confirmed for not a natural blond
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>>165025410
I do have a cloud of dankness i could stack it with i suppose. How long until the new quartz stuff unlocks?
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>>165025514
Yda confirmed for Yda's younger sister pretending to be Yda.
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>>165025227
hold on what

i didn't know about any of that. source? count me in for that
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>>165024748
>who is the waifufag now?
at least not me. yeah she's hot and all that, but the way she's introduced to the party, and her overall attitude on her brief scenes where that of a bid bad in a nazi officer-like straight is straight from a Wolfstein game.
she was that awesome, and just when you tought you was going to face her for real the game says NOPE and she dies. just like that.
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>>165025401
>she starts with an extra ATB bar when everybody else doesn't get one until they get branded
I missed that part because I just watched the game as a compilation of the movies and didn't actually play the game.
But that's cool.
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>That panic Medica II cast over Wall at the start

Surprised we made to the Zenketsusen spam phase. We can always try again.
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>>165025857
Yeah, fat-fingered that one, although to be fair, Ingus was also paralyzed, so it wouldn't have been completely wasted. 5 dps might have been excessive.
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should I pirate XIII?
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this anon here>>165021008
ok I'm free now.
are you guys still needing a fourth player for Greg?
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>>165025857
I can go for one more before I need to do other things, so I'm down for a reattempt

Any party changes you want?
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>>165025235
>evil guys in armor team
You'll love the Garland update coming in a few months then. From zero to assrape incarnate.
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>>165026134

I can stick with OK/Terra.

Or I can go with Gilg/Yuffie or Tyro(Wall)/Vanille(BSB).
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>>165026084
yeah maybe
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>>165026212
I'm not going to lie I'm fully erect for that 6* Garland rape train. Speaking of which should i grind Vaan for Maximillian or would Force armor be ok for now?
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>>165026292
OK/Terra was kinda a meme strat, sure it does 60k but goddamn if that didn't take entirely too long to set up. Tyro / Vanille desu.
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>Tiamat needs more than 1000 Mag to hit 3 times when I'm lucky to break 450
Into the trash she goes.
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>>165025136
Just because it's what Bart wanted all along does not make it the wrong act or an act of defeat. They specifically avoid it at the end despite returning because they really believe that bonding together an dusing their power will somehow stop the plan from succeeding. Until Fang goes berserk, that is, and they turn Cieth. However, their commitment toward each other and their hope for an impossible solution is granted in the only way left - through the deus ex machina. It's actually quite beautiful.
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>>165026423
Honestly imo Force Armor is better than Maximilian. Elemental resists (however minor) and Spirit trump an extra 11 armor. I mean at best it's a sidegrade. Nothing I'd TM for unless I had nothing else to TM for.
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>>165026658
devotion, burst mode and sheepsong should break 1000 easy with SYNERGY
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so aria is the way to go in jp?
dat group full-life
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>>165026658
Focus + Burst Mode + ATK/MAG + Sheepsong / Ley Lines + Devotion stack apparently does the trick. It's close to the hard cap.
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>>165026834
That seems a little impractical
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Which is a better character, Hope or Vanille?
Not talking about the mobages you guys can go choke on a dick.
I'm talking about their personalities in FF13.
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>>165022749

The heck is a "nignog" ?
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>>165026134
>>165026527
I hosted last time, but would appreciate if someone else hosted so that I swap characters/rejoin if necessary. I have Minfilia/Ramza attack buffs, and Papalymo/Alphinaud for magical buffs/bsb. I don't have a healer BSB, which feels necessary desu.
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>>165026893
>airheaded Australian lesbian faking airheadedness to get away from the reality of it all
>understandably distraught 14-year old but goddamn he's a whiny bitch

I actually don't know
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>>165026893
they are both irredeemably stupid.
it's why they get along so well
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>>165026784
I figured i just wanted to make sure. I'm planning on working on Bartz, Zidane, Sabin, Golbez next for TMs sadly the only one i have a double of is Golbez so it's going to be a long grind
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>>165026893

Hope is the bigger faggot in FF13, but gets better in the sequels.

Vanille is there to be annoying and kinda vanishes until LR
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>>165026893
vanille because she is cute
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>>165026893
They're both pretty good desu.
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>>165026896
chocolate flavored egg nog

dumb roodypoo
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>>165026893
they're both garbage in final fantasy brave exvius, while in final fantasy record keeper they have pretty great burst soul breaks
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>>165026893
i like Vanille's Vanilles
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>>165026980
If you want a healer BSB and still looking for slots I could bring Y'shtola along with the usual Ingus.
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>>165026893
Put them together.
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>hey dad
>dajh?
>crystallizes
i don't know if i should laugh or feel sad.
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How does someone get a tan when the sun hasn't risen for 10 years
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>>165027035
At least there's emulators.

I have ten Elles to go through for a couple tank materias. Got Dark Fina from a ticket, but had to pull three times for Luka since I didn't have a goddamn 6* healer except for Santa Rosalia, and she's not great without an extra support character. At least that's just 20% each.
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>>165027035
>Sabin, Golbez next for TMs
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>>165027273
why is that funny - the timing? sorry i dont remember the scene too well
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>>165027273

The whole plot surrounding that was one of the few things about FF13 I enjoyed
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>>165026740
>just because they're conceding and doing exactly what the villain wants them to do despite knowing it will kill everyone doesn't mean that they're doing the wrong thing because the characters say that the action is standing up for themselves even though it isn't

> because they really believe that bonding together an dusing their power will somehow stop the plan from succeeding

I want you to reread this sentence and think about how retarded it is. You are genuinely trying to argue that the main characters seriously, actually believed, that if they did exactly what the main villain wanted them to do, but with the power of friendship, things would just somehow work out and the main villain wouldn't kill everyone. Can you understand how incredibly stupid that statement is? Can you understand how incredibly stupid for it to be the emotional climax of the entire game? Especially since they were completely and totally wrong, the main villain wins and gets everything he wants, and they have to be saved by an absurd deus ex machina that contradicts a fuckton of stuff from earlier in the game.
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>>165027293
I didn't even fully read that sentence.

>Sabin
>Golbez
Okay now I'm curious.
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>>165027274
You should look at what the ring magic does to the model anon. It's more surprising he didn't end up char black ash.
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>Exdeath
>friend message is "Cloaca."

I guess I gotta.
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>>165027482
Anon. Stop and think about this for a second. FFXIII is the guy that did FFX-2. It makes perfect sense how the plot ended up going in that direction.

You also need to stop and realize the reason the banter in FFXV is so good is because Tabata is also the guy that did some of the best side quests in FF7 through 12 excluding 11 but he doesn't know how to structure a long form narrative and end things.
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>>165027482

That could have been forgiven had they put in an alternate ending if you intentionally died in the final Orphan fight to say fuck you to their fate
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>>165027274
Fuck, Old Noctis is so hot
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>>165027482
>You are genuinely trying to argue that the main characters seriously, actually believed, that if they did exactly what the main villain wanted them to do, but with the power of friendship, things would just somehow work out and the main villain wouldn't kill everyone.

Say they don't go though with it. They all kill themselves instead, what then?

Other people get branded for the same task and it just happens anyway down the line. So they just did what they could do. Also they saw what happened to cid, why not believe that doing whatever with "good" intentions might work out somehow.
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>This thread's a fantasy, you've failed the test;
>Arrested destiny, alone in a trance;
>No escaping from this waking dream, no hope of advance;
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>>165027175
ummm anon, please don't sexualize vanille.
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Exdeath is cute! CUTE!
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>>165028046
That is cute.
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>>165028005
>>165027210
no lets sexualize vanille a LOT more
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>>165028046
I like my angry little tress more painful to face in mobages
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>>165027952
>not SONIC BOOM

.. No you're right, that one's better.
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>>165027482
There's nothing retarded about it. It's the only thing left to do after all other options are closed. It's the fact they succeed at the end because of the deus ex machina that makes it interesting. Remember, Fang and Vanille stop the fall with their own crystallization. Then they are saved. Otherwise it would be a downer ending of helpless slaves falling prey to the plans of their masters. Yes, they were wrong about the power of friendship, but winning despite being wrong because of their hope in a miracle makes it a great ending. That, and the bittersweet loss of Fang and Vanille.
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>>165027482
The power of friendship is stronger than any magic.
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>>165027360
something about it just made me guffaw, maybe how sudden it was or how he looks.
>>165027425
i liked it better than light and hope being stupid.
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>>165027912

It goes against their(and a lot of other major character's) mantra of Fighting against Fate. If they die and some other motley crew gets branded, then so be it.

The chaos they created and the general attitude towards anyone in contact with Pulse Fal'Cie that Cocoon developed would guarantee Orphan waiting a few hundred more years for everything to calm down, like the gigantic war he tried to orchestrate abd fucked up that the game talks about.
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>>165028219
/mlp/ pls.
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So Vel did you need mastery on Apocalypse / U+ Gilg or are you fine? I've seen everyone else we were partying with already clear all the fights at some point or another so it's probably on you if you need any more.
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Are there any 6* Darkness skills in JP yet?
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>>164960869
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>>165028252
How come he was encased in crystal and didn't actually become crystal like Serah, Vanill, and Fang?
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>>165028356
No.

>>165028319
Why are you guys not mastering? Bs rng?
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>>165027912
>Say they don't go though with it. They all kill themselves instead, what then?

That's another problem in and of itself, or, arguably, why Barthandelus is the most underrated villain in the series. There's fucking nothing the characters can do. They do what he wants, or they die, and if they die he can just find somebody else to do it. He can't lose no matter what, his plan is GOING to eventually succeed. The game could've actually made that a plot point, but it just sort of glossed over it. If they had actually addressed how Barthandelus' victory was inevitable, and this had actually been written into the plot of the story, so the main characters decided that they would give in to the inevitable and just try to mitigate the damage as much as possible, then it might have worked. But the problem was that even though the game ended with them conceding to Bart's inevitable victory, the characters and the narrative tried to portray it as the opposite of that.

That's all irrelevant to everything I said earlier, however. If they had killed themselves, that would have been at least standing up for themselves and defying fate, instead they decided to do the ONE thing that they knew would cause everyone to die and just sort of hope that what they had been explicitly told would happen wouldn't happen. What you brought up doesn't change how stupid what they did is.

> Also they saw what happened to cid, why not believe that doing whatever with "good" intentions might work out somehow.

You remember that things worked out terribly for Cid, right?

And, for the howeverth many time now, going "let's do this thing that we have been directly told will kill everyone and hope that it doesn't" is really, really stupid
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>>165027952
mmoshitters should burn
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>>165028419
Because... wait, that's a good point.
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>>165028428
We only beat Gilgamesh Apocalypse the first time by the skin of our teeth (lost 5 so we didn't get the mastery) because Enkidu and Gilgamesh got Berserk and Paralyze procs like madmen, but other than that we had a ridiculously solid build going. It kinda fell apart second time around.
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>>165028412
We're having a nice conversation about FF13 here.
Wait until next thread to shitpost, please.
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>>165028412
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>>165028306
>If they die and some other motley crew gets branded, then so be it

I think that fits fighting fate leas than what they wound up doing, though. But opinions are opinions.
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>>165028473

I attribute it to the side effects of being a Cocoon L'Cie. Dajh is the only Cocoon L'Cie in the entire game
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>>165027274
Wind burn
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>>165028456
dumb frogposter
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>>165028419
Ah, that's why I thought he looked strange back when I played it. At the time, I thought it was just me unintentionally being racist or something.
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>>165028419
>>165028473
Maybe melanin doesn't crystalize?
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>>165028693
dumb phoneposter
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>>165028214
This is where we'll have to disagree, because I think that winning despite doing everything wrong is what makes it a bad ending.

Now, I might be missing something here, but I'm pretty sure that Ragnarok was only ever stated to be this giant monster of death and destruction that kills everything and was going to destroy Cocoon. Fang herself would know exactly what Ragnarok does, having become it once before, and if it was capable of actually helping or making things better, she presumably should have known. So when she fulfills her directive at the end and transforms into Ragnarok and uses it's power to save everybody, that's what I have a problem with: If Ragnarok was capable of that, why had nobody ever mentioned or discussed it before? And if it was but nobody knew, that brings up the original problem of "Let's summon the incarnation of destruction and hope that it decides to help us out" being a really, really bad idea, even if it does actually work out.
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>>165028584
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>>165028652
I was thinking the same thing. We know the variant of brand and cieth are different by fal'cie so it might apply to their crystallization as well.

or they did it for effect...
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>>165028769
But in FF12 the party wins despite defeating Bane and it's a "good ending".
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>>165028419
How come Sazh puts a gun up to his head, the game plays a firing sound, it cuts to Jihl carrying him out in a fucking coffin complete with flowers, but then later it's revealed that Sazh changed his mind and didn't kill himself, so why did Jihl carry him out in a coffin? Is she in the habit of putting alive, unconscious people in coffins?
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>>165028881

FF12 built everything up much better than FF13.
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>>165028783
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>>165028319
Not tonight, thanks for asking though. I was able to solo master the 160, and I'm not too concerned over bravery motes right now.
>>165028428
two DPS got paralyzed as BSBs were about to fire.
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>>165028319
fix'd
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>>165027293
Counter and Meteor also I'm leveling Golbez for my evil armor dudes team anyway
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>>165028447
>that would have been at least standing up for themselves and defying fate

I would say defying their fate specifically, but not fate itself. At least not the fate of cocoon.

I just figure in their shoes, I wouldn't be killing myself or actively trying to turn cieth so doing what they did just doesn't seem as stupid to me. Those were their three options and the other two would be a drop in the water against plans that have been in motion for ages.
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>>165028812
Maybe it was just because he was black. Don't try to overthink it too much. The simplest answer is the solution.
>>165028929
Actually throught the game it looked to me like Jihl had a thing for Sazh. Maybe she had a coffin fetish and wanted to have it acted upon on Sazh.
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FF XIII was a fucking great game in every respect except the horrible, undisguised linearity of 90% of it, and the fact that so much of the story was buried in the datalog. And no, fuck you, I've gone over the script before to prove faggots who say "HURR NO IF YOU PAID ATTENTION..."

No motherfucker. Most of the major plot points aren't ever once mentioned (in any coherent fashion) outside the datalog. Yes, if you already know what the story's actually about, you can infer it all from in-game events, but going in blind and not reading the datalog, there's a lot that's not explained.

And that's poor storytelling. Not quite Destiny level but close, for a game supposedly all about telling you a grand story.

Still had a good time, but fuck the datalog.
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>>165028929
How come when Fang first mentions that she was working together with Vanille as Pulse Fal'cie to Lightning, Lightning does not react in the slightest to the reveal that the girl she had met and spent a great deal of time with had been lying to her the entire time about basically everything?

How come everybody else gets their summons at their lowest point, when they're about to give up on life, but Lightning gets Odin when she still fully intends to complete her journey, and has in fact just tried to abandon Hope for saying that they should give up?
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>>165028961
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>>165028929

Jihl played along with Sazh's facáde and probably arrested him properly off screen. Either that, or the Eidolon prevented Sazh for dieing to the gunshot
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>>165027097

Oh cool

For reason i thought it was a pokemon
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>>165025857
>>165025978
>>165026980

Newfriend here. What game are you discussing?
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>>165029068
>Those were their three options and the other two would be a drop in the water against plans that have been in motion for ages.

...as opposed to fulfilling the plans that had been in motion for ages?
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>>165029246
Final Fantasy Record Keeper I assume. It added a multiplayer raid mode.
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>>165028538
>>165028963
i got greedy and left ultima weapon accessory on alphinaud
then he got KOd as he was about to re-fire BSB ;_;
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>>165029162
>FF XIII was a fucking great game
no
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>>165029182
Jihl arrived AFTER Sazh gave up on suicide though, she would've had no way of knowing he was considering it.
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Anyone still going to be playing RK in about half an hour or so? Could use a competent team to beat Aiatar.

>>165029176
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>>165029246
Dark Souls 2
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>>165029068
>Those were their three options and the other two would be a drop in the water against plans that have been in motion for ages.

>Since you've planned against every alternative we could've come up we're just going to folow your plans.
>What!? No, try killing yourselves first or something to fight against our plans, please stop! NOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooohhhh!
>Following our plans, my only weakness! blagh!
>good end
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>>165029365
ill play right now
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>>165029365
sorry anon im off to sleep, east coast here
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>>165029293

Thanks.

>>165029369
>pic related
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>>165029270
Was the only option that could change things. The people of cocoon were cattle, should things have stayed as they were?

Though that's not the point. When you're mad you gotta punch things. If that guy over there is a bad guy, run him over with your car, getting arrested is worth it. That's what they did, it's human nature.
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>>165029365
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>>165029170
How come Serah's Summon didn't appear before her when she was emotionally crumbled about leaving Snow and wanting to kill herself(or something)?

Was it ever revealed what her summon was supposed to be?
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>>165029068

The game at least made it clear that their plans have failed for at least the past few hundred years. Some side objectives like the annihilation of Pulse might have succeeded, but their main objective has been out of reach for centurues. Lightning's group was arguably the closest ones to success ever at that point. Cocoon was in complete disarray and ready for destruction. Them defying fate could have bought a long ass time for humanity as a lot of Pulse fal'cie kicked the bucket in this game. They aren't infinite in number.
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>>165029365
Sure I could pull out a team. Have Refia and Terra BSBs, so if someone else is bringing support I could just have pure DPS. If not, Tyro goes in the second spot I guess.
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>>165029565
If that had actually been the reason they did it, if Lightning had gone "fuck it, I hate you so much Imma kill you even though I know it'll kill everyone but they're all sheeple who tried to kill me so fuck them too", then I would like FFXIII way, way more.
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ID #?
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>>165028456
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>>165029702
It's always 7243 unless people go ahead without knowing what it is and make a room.
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How much harder is ELT dark fina compared to pro?
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>>165029209
It is though
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>>165029679
>>165029450
I'll have a room ready soon. I've got Ysholta with Medica II, SSII, and Asylum. Front liner is Refia.

Looking for someone to bring someone with Protectga/Shellga SB or a similar Ysholta so I can switch her with Tyro for that role. Maybe someone to buff offensively as well.

>>165029568
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>>165029701
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Just finished XV.
I cried. Like a bitch.
But what was with the random ass cutscene from, like, the middle of the game where Noct and one of the dogs are singlehandedly storming a Niff base and get rekt?
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>>165029892
It's just from the omen trailer. One big what if scenario.
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>>165029892
That was a cutscene they made for a trailer that they really, really liked, so they put it in the game, even though it didn't make any sense.
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>>165029624
>run away from your problems
>just kill yourself
Imagine if the game had ended with those life lessons.
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>>165029876
If I have Tyro BSB I think you can afford to just have Y'shtola focus on healing and maybe occasional Wall. Don't have any offensive buffs that aren't out-of-place here so.
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>>165029727
what the fuck is this
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>>165029958
>>165029954
Ah, all right. Thanks. I thought it was something that was going to happen like the cold open to the game, but then the timeskip happened and I was like, huh.
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>>165029982
Dark Souls 2
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>>165029892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZymd6r4wGg
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Room up, 7243.

>>165029876
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>>165029170
I don't remember the first. Are you sure she specifically mentioned Vanille? I would have to see the scene again. As for your second question, it's because she's lying and doesn't feel what she says at all. She gets a "pang" every time like a pinocchio nose growing. "you're helpless" - i want to help you. "go on your own" - come with me. its a reaction to guilt over serah.
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>>165029959
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>>165029825
it's a pretty damn big jump.
goes from 230,000 hp to 1.5 million
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>>165029959

They were willing to commit potential human genocide on a gamble because friendship. Thats not much better
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>>165029982
Oh, stop that. You know.
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>>165030136
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>>165030020
You can, theoretically, see it as an allusion to Ardyn's fate as well if you want to give them credit they don't deserve since in the Omen trailer he loses the Royal Arms and the king powers as he becomes the devil.
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>>165027210
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>Yda weapon
mad jelly
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Am I anywhere near ready to attempt Greg? All of my abilities are rank 3 except for lifesiphon which is only rank 1(but I do have two of them for if I should replace draw fire).
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>>165030384
Probably not, or just barely. Replace Lifesiphon, it's few current uses will only drag you down.
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>>165030384
>R1 Lifesiphon
>Gordon is healing instead of having Ace Striker or DMT
>No ATK / MAG breakdowns

Level-wise, sure, but skills are a huge problem here, anon. You could probably get your ass carried through U+ battles now but other than that Apocalypse seems out of reach at the moment.
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>>165030336
I love that part.
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What do you guys want me to carry? I see two Walls, two Full Breaks, dont know if that's been switched yet.

I can bring Vanille BSB, Yshy Medica & Wall & BSB, Noel BSB, Ingus BSB.
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>>165030158
https://youtu.be/SOimFY_yjYo?t=12149

She says it in a voiceover, and several more times in the following conversation ("Vanille and me, we lost our pasts..., etc").
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>>165030535
vanille bsb curaja/protectga
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>>165030535
Not changing anything and we had two Refia BSBs so DPS is working. Ingus / Vanille would have worked but Ultrosposter seems to have joined.
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>>165030535
Any are good. Maybe Vanille since it'll eventually start piercing defense, but that's up to you.

And... you just got beat out by someone else.
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>>165015561
Regis wanted to make an heir with cidney
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>>165015561
My head canon is that he was against the raising of the barrier.
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>>165030650
WOW ultros, so rude
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Should we reset the fight?
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>This raid party is already full.
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>>165030818
If you're already in the fight and everything's working fine go on without me since I already have all the current fights mastered anyway.
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When are y'all gonna stream these raids of yours?
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please dont bring renewing cure EVER.
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>>165030895
lol
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>>165030868
We got trashed before defenses came up and one of our guys left. Didn't want to waste anyone's time so I forfeited.
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>Geared up for Apoc Greg
>Aiatar

Whoops
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Are you guys always this fucking bad at videogames?
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>>165030895
b-but poison
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>>165030956
The guy that left was me. I wasn't paying attention and my phone screen went to sleep when we were going in.

>>165030986
Not that Gilgamesh proccing Death Claws too often helps anyway with the gitting gud, anon.
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>no raid parties available to join

Rip
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>>165030986
That's why I want YOU to help me.
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>>165030130
That looks like a much better game than what FF15 was.
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>>165031210
It's CGI.
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>back row melee
uh oh
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>>165030202
Noone playing the game will be in a position to make that kind of choice, so the better story can only be one.
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Should I swap Celes for Ramza or onion?
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>>165030519
Should I go with double cut(rank 5) or one of the 3* breaks instead?

>>165030527
I do have enough materials to make the ATK and MAG breakdowns but I don't have enough materials at the time to get them any higher then rank 1. I was already aware that Apocalypse was too out of reach for me at the moment, I just wanted to at least figure out if trying U+ would be a good idea or not.
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>>165031297
>Refia can use throwing weapons
>doesn't

Esteria please
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>>165031297
It's refia
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>>165030570
Hmm, yeah. I suppose after Fang tells her where she comes from it may seem obvious to her why Vanille kept it from them. It's not a huge deal, right?
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>>165031380
I mean I have him as a RW and I know he has a Terra OSB

Just use that over Refia if you need a backrower that bad
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>>165031363
She uses lifesiphon twice then ranged life
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>>165030986
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>Apocalypse Barthandelus
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>>165031515
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>>165031413
It's not a huge deal but it does seem a bit weird that nobody ever mentions or reacts to it at all.
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