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Why isn't Saksa /fit/ he's easily 10/10 if he has the body of Fly

The casters don't know that CK's early laning is actually pretty weak. One stun that costs most of his mana, and a pull that gives no bonus damage and very low minus armor at early levels.

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Why is VP so bad now?

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CM is cute

ARE YOU READY for a ck reality rift into arrow this game?

MAGIC BE DASHED

>>164920706
>that framerate
so jelly

>>164920676
dumb cumiko poster

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is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.

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QoP is cute

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>>164920706

>ck has the most farm
gg

>>164920791
mmm?

CK overall is really fucking weak when you are facing enough magic damage to kill illusions

Which he is right now

>>164920706
the MK is clearly way more farmed than both

Why is monkey king not being picked?

ck free farm when he's literally at his weakest

OK

>>164920948
CIS dota at its best

>>164920948
CK is weakess in the 10-25 min period

>>164920948
Are you THIS NEW to prodota? Carries always get freefarm.

>>164920958
sour milk

>free farm as CK
>buy an echo saber first
And he already threw the game

>>164920617
tall + lanky is much cuter than tall + nasty muscles

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>>164921137
eww

>>164920958
salty milk and bags of coins

>>164921082
huh? jugg was contested. only difference is that he has the ability to catch up and ck doesn't and they didn't take advantage of that

>>164921148
as opposed to what?

>>164921295
Armlet is the typical buy

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>armlet now becomes an actually GOOD illusion hero on ck now that it has +25 attack speed on illusions
>get echo instead, an item that doesn't work on illusions

>>164920940
Pls respond!

>>164921295
hotd?
armlet?
maelstorm?

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>>164921351
are you serious dude

he's not in captains mode

>>164921351
hi!

>>164921351
in high level dota he completely sucks

>w33

>vanguard invoker
He's actually doing it. Just like in his pub games.

>>164921342
i think he's looking to farm faster honestly. he won't using ult much early. not that i agree with it btw. also dat vanguard.

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>vanguard invoker

VANGUARD KARL

vanguard invoker?????????

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>Vanguard Invoker

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>vanguard invoker

Does w33 know something we don't?

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is w33 just high 100% of the time?

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>vanguard invoker
And they call me the dumb one

>vanguard invoker

what is this new meme build?

>>164921509
me need hp

>>164921472
In League of Legends he would be fined for this build

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>VANGUARD

is w33 pulling out some real DOTA secrets in this game?

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7.00 was a mistake

>he doesn't go first item abyssal invoker
fucking shitters the lot of you

>>164921545
So why not atos? That root is brutal

>>164921362
>>164921325
none of these solve the mana problem which is CKs biggest weakness

straight crimson guard is fine retards

invoker can literally buy anything

bet you fucking clowns think midas is good

>>164921639
me need hp regen

HES NOT EVEN FUCKING UGRADING IT THE OF A GHFUCKING GOD DAMN CRIMSON GUARDH OLY TFUCK

you fucking peifce of shit how can you
not even upgrading it fonly 1400 more gold fuck your mother I bet money on this game how can you do this shit

remember when zoom out was added to spec mode and everyone used it all the fucking time for a month and now no one uses it ever?

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>vanguard invoker

????????????????????????????????????????

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>veil ember
>not battlefury against illusion knight
What is this meme build

>>164921662
not on qw invoker

>moon is bad
-d2g

Ta нaхyй oн pyинит??

>>164921549
>implying you can't wait for the new drafting system to retain the same level of hero diversity and lolbabs will be astonished

>>164921785
you dont really need cleave vs chaos knight

maybe lategame

If DC wins this, I'm gonna be seeing vanguard invokers in my pubs for weeks

don't let this happen dotards

>>164921586
W33HA IS SYRIAN_SYNDICATE

>>164921785
magic damage kills CK illusions just fine
bfury is actually shit now because the cleave aoes always face the wrong direction and won't even hit anything anyway

veil + maelstrom is enough to wipe ck illusions easily

>>164921785
veil maelstrom gives better stats and more aoe damage from your skills by a lot

>>164921883
vanguard already saved his life

>>164921785
He's going to do the current FotM magician build and lose on purpose as a false flag to give the build a bad reputation.

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Make him meta reeeee

>>164921883
not much different than a force staff. i would like to see him finish the crimson guard tho.

so why aren't OG & EG at this tournament?

ck is a fucking garbage hero

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>vanguard

>>164922030
eg didnt want to fly around holidays

>>164921996
>has stiffling dagger as an ultimate

>>164922030
EG didn't want to go

OG lost in the qualifiers to VP

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So when are we getting smug anime faces with >he doesn't buy Vanguard on Invoker

maelstorm invoker
wat?

sb next item ck lolol

>Demonic Purge
>Doesn't remove buffs
dotards?

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Why pick CK to go echo -> shadow blade?
Why not just pick lycan?

>>164922314
lycan isn't in cm anymore, no?

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BUILD ME

Is this a 2k mmr pub game. What are these item builds.

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NICE VANGUARD LUL
GOOD MONEY

I miss Electrician.

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>w33 will never meme build your butt

>People still asshurt about techies

It makes it worth it playing him every match.

i love this new meta

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>>164922396
why? the cleaves never hit enemy heroes now

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>>164922525
>he still plays dota 2

>>164922442
>eheeheeheeheeheeeee

>shadow blade CK
Okay they're definitely throwing

>>164922549
what meta
its just random bullshit

>>164922712
exactly

>>164922419
YOU
WERE
SAYING
FAGGOT???

SAY IT TO MY FACE NOW

CISshitters exposed again

>lose to CK/Vanguard invoker

>>164922630
>SHOCK AND AWE

this is over
vp lost right there

REMINDER THAT INVOKER WOULD BE DEAD THERE WITHOUT VANGUARD

>>164922705
who's throwing again?

Solo tilted after being forced to buyback taking away his blink dagger. That stun...gamelosing for sure

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>moon

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is vanguard now core on ranged heroes?

what items is the ember going

>>164922942
>We're back to the era of vanguard Razor

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GET RADIANCE INSTEAD OF MALESTROM ON EMBER

WHAT KIND OF RETARD

this meme ember build has got to stop

its literal shit

So it's Vanguard Maelstrom on all heroes now?

>>164922958
none, he won't finish any items before he loses this game

>>164923021
w33ha won a game with it, it's legit

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I'm starting to really like Misery as a drafter and a captain

>>164923021
Ember's winrate has gone up 7 fucking percent in 5k+ between this patch and the last, of course it fucking works.

>>164922314
Lycan doesn't have a stun, dummy

Can anyone explain to my why d2g places so much emphasis on item choices and rarely discuss actual strategy and teamplay?

well that was a 9 k mmr play by ck..

>Uberlord

Imagine how good DC would be if they didn't insist on having American players

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>>164923189
what good is a stun if you can't kill anyone

>>164923215
You can only take the item builds into pubs

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ARE YOU READY FOR VANGUARD RUSH INVOKERS IN YOUR PUBS DOTARDS?

>>164923158
Hello mr American bandwagoner

>>164923297
they have zero american players

>>164923215
strategy and teamplay are subjective
item builds can be objectively better or worse than other item builds

when invoker gets vanguard or ember gets radiance, its provably suboptimal and shit, because there are other items that do the same things better

DUDE SOMEONE IS NKING ME WITH SOUND AGAIN

WHY

WHAT HAVE I DONE

STOP

I LOST FEELING IN MY EAR

STOP

>>164923017
>Why
There's no point questioning the Noone tilt. VP better pray they keep meeting shit mids to reach the finals or else EG/Newbee/DC will keep knocking them out

>>164923304
>3k unranked where you run around and people don't counter you nor coordinate
dota is a 5v5 game anon

you don't need to deal damage as long as you stun the target, your team will kill him

How does VP stomp EG but lose to DC?

>>164923324
Don't play the game so why should I care?

>>164923439
EG is not good

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>radiance veil ember
>vanguard rush invoker
>echo saber rush CK

what has this patch done, I don't know anything anymore

This room is in followers-only mode. Follow esl_dota2 to join the community!

we lol now

>>164923409
That makes sense, so if certain item builds are provably worse why would a professional player choose such a suboptimal build? Are they trying to throw or are they just not good?

What was the point of the vanguad. He didn't even rush crimson guard, which i thought was the reason for the vanguard purchase.

M O O N
O
O
N

>>164923521
If this was lol w33, noone and reso would all be fined and suspended for not following correct builds

>>164923504
echo sabre ck was a standard for him since echo existed.

>>164923439
>stomp EG

EG knocked VP out of the major.

and the kid rages

so ends the VP

USA?

>vanguard invoker, shadow blade ck won
rip pubs

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so this is the power of America

>resolution hugs everyone
cute

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>VP getting completely memed on
Is CIS Dota finally dead?

>>164923547
Did you see how many fights he survived with a small portion of HP?

>KICK BULBA
>start winning
huh?

>>164923521
>picking an out of meta hero with a non standard build
>things that ever happen in lol

>>164923623
>guinsoo realizes that the pubs have to be herded into the stale meta otherwise public games become unplayable
>Icefrog and Gabe allow vanguard invoker to get loose into public games

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DCs going to win

>>164922942
Vanguard is core on every hero every game unless you need hood more.

>>164923686
>Moo leaves
>they beat wings 2-1
Maybe SUNSfan finally learned

>>164923439
Pro dota is like rock paper scissors

NA dota beats slav dota
slave dota beats chink dota
chink dota beats NA dota

>>164923450
If you don't play DOTA 2 you can FUCK right off.

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>Juggernaut almost lost a Physical manfight to a pasty megalomaniac magician

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>Meme draft
>Meme builds
>Win

dotards?

tanky dps

thats what you get for playing stupid shit like veil ember

>>164923756
ENDURANCE SHOT

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enjoy your 15 minute vanguard q/w invokers

how long until blademail invoker

>>164923675
CIS dota was dead when OG 3-0'd Na'vi with Miracle roleswapped onto support and cr1t playing core riki.

>>164923771
how woulkd hot water wapor pound your boipuccy?

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>>164923673
>Asian with small tits desperately trying to make them look big

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>So, you need me to karry firthy american dogs?

>>164922974
>tfw no more old Visage with Vanguard+Radiance+healing dispersion+ old revenants
comfiest hero ever

so russians pick """""""" safe"""""""" shit like lion and lose.
havent seen that before.

>>164922974
we left?

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>unironically still playing pubs after 7.00
lul
enjoy your vanguard invokers

>>164923801
It's how you win against a meme scene like CIS

>>164923539
>e why would a professional player choose such a suboptimal build?

ask yourself what kind of person would pursue a 'career' as a professional dota player, which has an average payout worse than minimum wage, high expenses, no benefits, no insurance, no transferable skills, no job security, no advancement, no retirement, you're a slave to a contract

and now you're surprised when such people turn out to be retards?

>this music

Do the kids even listen to dubstep anymore

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>>164923841
i've seen bad posts in my life but definitely numbers amongst the worst ones

Reso has really good english now

>>164923841
>implying daddy sunsfan didn't buy her a set when she got her green card

>>164923547
its cheap and provides exactly enough defense to prevent him from getting bursted by the 4 supports, and force juggs to walk through his team and melee him.

>>164923756
I'LL BREAK THEIR SPIRITS AND THEIR BACKS

congratz to betting anon

https://www.instagram.com/p/BO_Fks1ALJg/

>>164923912
>which has an average payout worse than minimum wage

For DC at least they were on 4k a month as a base salary like a year or so ago when Ritsu complained about it.

Since their TI performance they've probably had a raise.

They'd be making money from other sources too.

>>164923215
because they'd rather go for the cookie-cutter meta that the pros do

>>164924157
thats actually pretty cool

>>164923912
>wahhhhhh how dare people pursue their passions rather than being a 9 - 5 wage slave for 50 years.

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>>164924157
Why do the SEAmonkeys love w33 so much?

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reminder that all the "close calls" thanks to vanguard could have just as easily been had with rod of atos

>>164924157
W33 CONFIRMED DIRTY SCRIPT USER

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even fear disaggree

>>164924317
He's a fellow islamic terrorist.

>right click invoker
>builds vanguard
>could have done the exact same thing or done it better without vanguard

someone please explain, did DC just want to meme all over VP or something?

>>164924365
w33 scripts in pubs all the time fampam

>>164924351
pls no more heresy we /vanguardoto/ nao

>>164924392
That makes zero sense.

>>164924387
w33 is meta-metagaming, teaching pubs to build shitty items so he will be able to stomp them.

>>164924174
do they get all their travel expenses covered? medical? dental? sick leave? right to unionize?

>>164924157
time well spent

>>164923856
>low mobility hero
>safe

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>Trump wins election
>mfw DC vs Wings ti6 grandfinals rematch where DC wins

>>164924485
When do pros get ionized?

>>164924317
>w33
No that's what the comments for every pro players social media looks like
Look up any arteezy or singsong Twitter post
The most vocal part of the dota community is comprised of dumb thridies

>>164924174
DC got a pay increase after TI, I think they get 60k a year or something now.

>>164924626
Hey man you leave Jark out of this

>>164924723
Doesn't seem like much, Charlie said Sumail was on 100k + tournament pay outs when he was signed by EG

>Abed is wasted on some meme team of oldfag has beens besides DuBu

He could have stayed in the best Flip team in ages but NA Dota looks more fun to him because stateside mentality

Feels bad to be a flip man
At least we beat nobrain at TI6

>>164924882
EG is a well established e-sports organisation, it's no surprise that they can payout a lot more.

Especially since in Dota 2 at least they always perform well.

>newbee vs wings
nap time!

>>164924882
>comparing a organization once owned by Amazon and Twitch to a team made by youtuber jew
come on man

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how the hell did sunsfan make his billions?

>>164925072
youtube

>>164925072
He would have got plenty of deals to advertise shit on his YouTube channel on top of general ad reveune.

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>>164925005
>ignoring the chinks
When will you learn?

>>164924485
I don't get your point. Let's look at one example. Moonmeander has made $250k/year on average since starting pro dota and that's ONLY counting tournament winnings (most was made last year but he made a reasonable amount with coL as well). Take out for taxes and he's still probably in the $180k/year range which is more than many peak career lawyers or doctors make and he's only like 23 or 24.

Plus he lives in Canada so medical/dental are covered by his taxes. Travel expenses are covered by tournaments typically, qualifiers are online and if you qualify the event pays for you to come out. Sick leave? What the fuck does he need that for when he's in his 20s and is playing fucking video games for a career. If he gets sick he'll take a fucking break and let a standin play, he still makes team salary.

Unionization? How fucking stupid are you? Are you one of the people who whines about how only teams that win and place highly get paid in the DotA scene compared to LoL where the players are all Riot slaves?

>>164925186
already forgotten lul
nobody gives a fuck about non-eu/na dota
only special case was navi

Is armlet a honeypot item? All it does is slow down your progression to other, better items.

arr rook sam

164925235
nice reddit spacing

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>>164925363

>>164925364
You got BTFOd lad, go tell your Union

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>>164925363
i miss memes
post memes

Why did the makeup artist make Merlini look white?

>>164925503
DESIRE

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>>164925651

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uhhh?

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>>164925503
>TI champions and Burning

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>>164925651

>>164925728
Is Burning the Arteezy of China?

>>164925701
What is this? It won't open on my iPhone

>>164925235
dental is not covered in canada

>>164925858
no burning isn't a wigger who destroyed high level chinese pubs forever with his gimmicks

>>164925901
some high rated handsome guy literally forging the new meta for monkey king builds

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>>164925845
i miss him so much

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shadow is cute

Wings 2:1 Newbee

>>164926019
>yiping zhang
more like yiping CHAD

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>>164926019

>>164924916
>flip team winning a TI

the lack of cheese strats disturbs me

>>164926183
i want to succ sccc's dick

>>164925858
that would be super

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>>164926183

delete this

Whatever happened to Chuan? Was his in insatiable hunger too much for dota to handle?

Newbee 2:0
>>164926116
Can Asians be chads

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>>164925503
Go Wings

>>164926183
uuu9 face looks like a donnie yen knockoff

>>164926362
I remember back then when people laugh at their plain shirts + Wings logo

>>164926280
good point

>>164923805
can someone explain this maymay please i keep seeing it everywhere

>>164926183
did they mix up kpii and faith?

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How the fuck do I farm with rat heroes? I'm trying to git gud with Sproink and Lycan.

A g-g-g-girl

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God damnit I've watched so many streams I can now distinguish the monkeys from each other.

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>>164925503
>Desire

>>164926614
SWDC isn't a rat hero mate what the fuck are you on about

>>164926396
damn i was trying really hard to remember who he reminded me of thanks anon

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>>164926362
Innocence and Faith Bian both just 18 years old :3

>>164926271
He's taking a break from dota for a while. Rumor has it he's angling for a spot on a resurgent EHOME

newbee is going to get roflstomped

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it's time for aussie dota

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>>164926396
holy fuck

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Hnng

give me a reason why i should watch this chink vs chink game instead of just sleeping.

>>164926183
sccc looks like ryu

>>164926792
ROBOSLUT!!!!

>>164926913
not a single aussie there mate

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whats the last time you played dota

>>164926183
sccc look like a fag lol

>>164927009
give me a reason why I shouldn't blow my head off right now

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wings a cute !

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>>164927041

>>164927069
You haven't seen dotas lowest point yet

>>164927069
you'd be going before EE

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>>164927037
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Kphoenii

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>>164927129
Shadow really likes Envy for some reason

who is this faggot with the fruity voice>?

>>164927290
Australians are white anon

>>164927305
na bull and his cuck

>>164927041
january 2015

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Nice australian dotards

>>164927290
>Damien Sau-jing Chok
ah yes a pureblooded aussie
cuck

>>164927368
why do some aussies look like chink? not shitposting i dont know anything about that land

>>164927370
haha memes

>>164927318
Josh, AKA Korean BBQ. He's a Chinese translator.

>>164927041
december

>>164927368
we sure are
t. abbo

>>164927429
immigrants from chinklandia and how do u not know anything about aussies, u merican?

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>>164927368
(((white)))

>>164927129
>>164927305
isn't EE way too tall for a chink?

>>164927429
We are being invaded.

>>164927305
>that bellEE

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it's Lanaya time

>>164927538
Isn't Yao Ming way too tall for a chink?

>>164927538
Canada is so cold people have to grow tall to be closer to the sun

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Improve this, protip, you can't

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>>164927514
Jesus Christ, Aussies

>>164927456
it's Jack. Josh is the greasy one with the robot voice

>>164927505
yeah but when did they immigrate and why
im from europe and at least where i live we dont learn anything about australia. ww2, cold war and end of communism is the last thing i remember from hs

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Aussies seem pretty cool desu

>no meme ecelebs playing
>/underage2g/ reverts to /int/ posting

>>164927752
the past 50 years just like the rest of the west
because they could as there wasn't anything or anyone to stop them

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>>164927818
have some fun bud

>>164927808
T H I C C

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dumbtards

Newbee we have Wings number this patch

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>>164927680
why are your hands so small?

>>164927937
oh okay
honestly i thought australia is isolated enough to be protected from immigrants

>>164928067
i think there are these things called planes and boats

>>164928067
No where has been safe from immigration since transoceanic travel came into being.

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>he meld dodged the DK stun that was insane
These leeches mooching off the game creating fake (((hype))) where there is none is the reason Dota is dying.

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Can tobi ever go back to how he was?

>>164928067
"Stop the boats" is literally a political slogan.

>>164928520
>HE WILL
>WOW

>>164928521
You think tobi ever had a gay experience?

OHHH HE RAGES IT

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Any Wings fans here?

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Who "two personas" here ?

>>164928293
Japan is pretty daijoubu though. What's their secret?

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Wings will win

>DK stun now is a projectile
>everyone dodges it
That's one less Envy hero right there

valve needs to revert the ember battlefury sleight of fist cleave direction change

hey bh anon how do you do the triple windwalk combo?

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>>164928634
He was in musical theater I don't think so

>>164928803
Rejecting the overwhelming majority of would-be immigrants, despite the UN getting pissy over it.

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>>164928756
>Any Wings fans here?
yes, they can still make it, r-right?

>>164928819
Is envy the new notail?

>>164928862
I think he means buy a shadowblade

>>164928803
>Japanese is hard af to learn
>No-one speaks english
>milkshake and burger diet is now a raw fish and rice diet
>only people the nips are interested in are white, so if you're a turkish immigrant or something then prepare to stay single forever
>seriously they hate anyone not japanese

>>164928803
Japan is full of huehues

>>164928803
healthy xenophobia

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ahhh yes
TI winners

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>Not even TI Champions can beat aussies

mouz.cn

>lmao let's dive the fountain 19 minutes into the game

>>164926183
Please tell me this is a shoop
they look like literal wax dolls

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>>164929019
hey, when you're not trying to sieging towers its incredibly easy to just take highground

>based Wings not falling for the honeypot

see you at TI gaijins

>>164928974
Why can't America be more racist?

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leave the aussies to me

>>164928908
EE mid could work if the carry was anyone other than Aui.

>>164929094
Blaming your problems on the "other" doesn't actually solve anything

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Was EG the only team that was relevant and decent for the longest time after winning TI?
Everyone else just dropped off asap right into the shitter

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>>164929094
it's not in the interests of some people

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go Newbee

>>164929094
It's hard when you're 35% (excluding all hispanics who are considered ""white"") nigger yourself

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Wings got this. They are luring Newbee into a false sense of security before pouncing onto them and destroying them. It's the ol' rope-a-dope.

Newbee is fucking done. Wings has already won. Screencap this.

>>164924387
Who?

>>164928862
Attack coming out of WW, get a hit in before you fade with the recast, then get a second hit coming out of it. May be harder to do if fade time decreases with level of shadowwalk, I don't remember if it does.

>>164929156
>all the xenophobic countries actually get shit done

hmm

>>164929284
You know, Clinton Loomis. He was on Team Secret's Starcraft 2 squad until he switched to dota 2

>>164929273
oh yes the old "let the enemy hard carry take a rampage at our fountain before they've even taken our tier 2's" play