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Painted with ash in a ceremony to ward off blood: >>164854448

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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EFF CEE
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>>164905375
First for cauliflower soup
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>>164905534
Your constant spamming of this thing doesn't particularly prove anything. It's only succeeded in being annoying.
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DOLL THREAD
POST DOLLS
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AHH, KOSM
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>>164905682
>atleast he can only post it once
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>>164905742
>kosm
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>>164905730
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>>164905534
no one asked so what are you trying to say
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>>164905610
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>>164905534
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Any one of you gents wants to drop me about 5 blood chunks? ;)
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I want to hit people in pvp so hard they do not get born, how does a 99 or 90 arc build hits ? Minimum requirements for Holy Moonlight, 90/99 arc and the rest (if there is something) goes for vit
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>>164905534
too bad youll never be rad
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>tfw you literally one shot someone with the R2 follow up on tricked HMLS
sweet
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>>164905923
This is the hardest way to fight him lmao
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>>164905730
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>not even 10 minutes since the thread was created and lucifedora is already spamming his autistic webms for no reason
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>>164906078
immoral
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>use doll sliders
>get dolls clothes
>get milkweed
>become qt broccoli
y/n?
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>>164906202
Absolutely
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>>164905730
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2349201?tags=plain_doll
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>>164906150
blame the hunter for bending her over and lifting up her skirt
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>>164906078
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>>164906074
Nah, that, especially if combined with poison knives is the easiest way to beat him.
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>>164905808
>kos
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>>164906202
not like the sliders matter when your face can't be seen.
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>>164906347
it's the thought that counts anon
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>>164905808
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>>164905730
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>>164905534
i honestly don't understand why you would keep coming back to threads where no one likes or respects you. the only time people reply to you is to tell you to go away. do you enjoy this? not trolling or making fun i actually want to know the answer.
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>>164906078
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>>164906512
Notice how he never showed during that time {You)'s went away, anon?
Keep feeding him
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DOUBLE
K.O.
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>>164906703
>you's never went way with 4chanX
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>>164906078
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How viable is a +60 arcane build ? I want to go full retard
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>>164906901
Go 99 or go home
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>>164906843
NO
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>>164906901
you now notice that when you wear the bone ash mask your nack and face conpletly disappear and this is fully visible whn looked at up close
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>>164906986
>>164907106

Is there a real difference tho ? Don't want to invest 30 or 40 points to get like 50 or 100 more damage
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>there are actually people who choose the hunter pistol over the blunderbuss
kek
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>>164906327
>Not just dodging into him and to the left
>3-4 hits with saw spear
>On all but one attack
>No beast pellet
Yeah sure, super optimal and good
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gotta bounce for a bit, keep track of these fucking hands while I'm gone
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>>164907221
>picking a viable sidearm over a piece of shit
how dare they
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Why there's virtually no good art of Adella or Iosefka?
You would think that cute yandere nun or batshit crazy barefoot doctor who talks about trying her hand on you with such an intonation like he wants to tie you down on operating table and rape you all night long would have dozens of fan art.
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executioners r gay
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>>164907375
.T Vilecuck
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whats the whip like on an arcane build (probably bolt)?
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vilebloods r cucks
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So when is it coming to pc
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>>164907518
You mean threaded cane? It's ok
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>>164907567
>PC
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>>164907518
Threaded Cane is considered half-decent, along with the Saw Spear
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>>164907703
>cane
>being even close to saw weapons in terms of viability
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>>164907293
m8 I'm always afraid I'll get rekt this badly whenever I pvp
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>>164907543
Can confirm, their queen opens up at the touch of an executioner's wheel.
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>IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!
b-but i only j-just got here
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Would anyone be willing to do me a solid and carry me to the Beasthunter Saif?
password: saifboi
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>>164908043
ringing in the first lamp? I'll be there in a bit
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>>164908205
Yeah, I'm extremely underleveled so I'll be playing it safe. Thanks a bunch!
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>>164908018
I ain't gay, but I'd totally suck that guy's dick
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>>164908328
That would make you gay.
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Where's the FC at tonight boys?
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>>164908545
Iszis
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>>164908483
No it wouldn't, it would make him gayer but not gay.

>>164908545
Loran.
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Why was dungeon Rom harder than the Bloodletting Beast??
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>>164908483
Sucking a dick out of respect is different than sucking a dick out of lust.
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>>164908545
jjpk
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>>164908298
haha tried to dodge backwards, ringing again
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>>164908545
Hintertombs
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>haven't eaten anything but a bag of rice today
>wanna win one more duel before getting dinner
>keep losing

unshackle me, please, anybody
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>>164908545
Loran
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>>164908652
no problem, im at the chapel again haha
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> the year of our lord MMXIV+ III
> still no second DLC
> still no useable Keeper's sword for a proper SKL/ARC build, basically a faster moonlight sword alternative that shoots fire waves instead of Arcane
> still no fire magic whatsoever, Pthumerians get all kinds of fire stuff, surely there can be a way for humans to use it
> no BLT scaling hunter tool that adds 0.5% damage for every 1% you are below max health for two minutes
> Vilebloods dong summon executioners ringing Sinister Bells when they try look for help
> Sinister Dungeons still cannot be made FRC
> Sinister dungeons still don't offer any reason to do them, should remove the lowest tier of gems (eg Watchers dropping 17-19 would only drop 18-19)
> still no way to PVP with both players being at proper max health
> Alfred isn't hostile in Queens chamber automatically after his dialogue ends if you joined Vilebloods
> Milkweed and Beasts Embrace still don't get affected by Beast/Kin gems
> ritual materials still cannot be consumed for benifits. EG bloodshot eye ball boosts item discovery until you die. Pearl Slug gives 10% Arcane damage reduction until you die
> Living String cannot be used to revive all the non-respawning enemies in an area (eg bosses) for another shot at thier loot

Why can't we have nice things?
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>>164908018
He deserves the crown
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>>164907825
Cane is serrated too dumbshit
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>>164908616
CD Rom is tedious, not hard.
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>>164908675
how big is one bag? I usually go with a cup of uncooked rice for a day
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>>164909152
its moveset is absolute shit compared to saws
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>>164909152
it's still nowhere near as good as the saws asshat. no one said anything about serration.
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>>164909232
Learn to manage your spacing
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>>164908783
> Milkweed and Beasts Embrace still don't get affected by Beast/Kin gems
thank fucking god
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What's your favorite head gear in the game? Mine's either the Illusion Crown or Brador's Testimony
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CHIKAGE A SHIT
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>>164909361
Old Hunter Cap
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>>164909361
Mensis cage, always the Mensis cage

Funny considering I never actually wear it
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run to the ladder and climb it, need to restock on vials.
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>>164909316
learn to understand that some weapons are simply worse than others
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It'd be cool if we could name our Chalices so we can keep many open while knowing which one is which at a glance
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>>164908652
Got the saif then immediately got fucked up by the dude guarding it, cant complain though. Thank you so much!
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>>164909361
Gold Ardeo, far and away the best. The little bouncing on every rung of a ladder when going down is beautiful
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>>164909361
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>>164909361
Harrowed Hood just go with everything
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>>164909198
thats true I guess
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>>164909361
Yamamura Hat.
But speaking of head gear, I've never seen anybody use the Enlarged Head seriously.
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>>164909768
died more than I'd like, but that's great! have fun
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>>164909831
because its ugly
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>>164909758
I think it's nice that at least you can see which chalice it is by it little chalice that appears in the tombstone
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>>164909904
Its all good, that place can be rough at any level. I really appreciate it. Im getting the pick next, but im going to wait until I can take on Ludwig at least.
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at what point will having 10 vit become a problem for an average player (done afew playthroughs but always had some trouble on some chalice bosses)?
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>>164910035
>Entering the chalice with 10 vit
Oh shit hoontah what are you doing?
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>>164910035
Gascoine at the most
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>>164909361
Cainhurst Helmet, reminds me of the Mason Margiela mask Kanye wore in the Yeezus tour
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>>164905986
i only realised you cant drop items in bb last week
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>>164910386
meh
Farming chunks is such a pain
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>>164909361
either brador's or maria's
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>>164907221
pistol can parry from further away and the bullet is faster, plus there is less recovey after the shot
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>>164908043
thicc
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>always having to watch gascoignes intro because its the best
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>>164910443
How so? You get like 6 in 10 to 15 minutes, or 4 and a rock.
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>>164910675
Bloodborne is one of the few games in which I rarely skip cutscenes because they're all so good.
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>>164910675
>tfw you've never skipped Micolash's intro despite already seeing it dozens of times, and in the final stage always wait for him to fully finish his speech before dropping down
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>all these dollfags
>no maria posting
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>>164910969
I am angry.
ANGRY ABOUT BYRGENWERTH.
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What do you use shining coins for /bbg/ ?
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>>164905923
>How to AB
>dodge the attacks and don't get hit
>attack AB
Woah
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>>164911109
To decorate PvP spots and pass the time when waiting for a summon/AFK player. Also to mark the fallen where they fell.
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>>164911038
You need only ask anon
>tfw you will never sit down on this seven foot tall woman's thick, soft lap and snuggle into her after a long night of hoonting.
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>>164911036
MAJESTIC
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>>164911158
Genius, right?
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>>164910853
I just hate how, in every cuts scene, every time the shot changes all the npc's hair and clothes seems to spawn in that second so their clotres/hair seems to float up for a second then fall down.
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kek. Nice cannon shot.

What chest piece is that?
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Quick, /bbg/, post ayys!
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>>164911990
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>>164911990
did that drawanon ever deliver on the boomhammer coffee brewing thing?
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If my PS+ runs out does that mean I can't grind korea gems any more or does it mean I just have to keep making new dungeons and cant use glyphs?
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>mfw 3 win streak
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>>164912227
>3
nice dude you should frame that on your fridge next to your B+ in spelling
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>>164912159
Can't use glyphs
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"Hey, Ebrietas, yeah its the Choir again, hey could we like, get your tentacles to come through this portal, like whenever we need to? Okay thanks, yeah, Wrglglgglglglgl to you too"
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What outfit looks like this?
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>>164911990
Did she commit suicide by jumping off that ledge or did the giant near her smashed her head in? She seems pretty flattened out but that might just be the texture.

Did the red moon made her go mad and not care about her sister or did she not give a shit about her in the first place?

Or was she a neighbor who envied her ribbon so she snuck into Gascoine's house to look for it then lied to you to get it? Maybe her house is that one down by the giant?

Why does the giant whisper "so cold, dear sister"? Could that giant be their brother who got transformed by the scourge and maybe that's why Gascoine went out on the hunt in the first place, to look for him?

Or maybe I'm reading into it too much.
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>>164911990
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Good shit Kamui
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>>164911038
doll > emo girl
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>>164912398
Wish that if you used Augur of Ebrietas during her fight you could see her arms getting janked into a portal and that it would stun her for a few seconds like Gascoine with the music box. Then after using it for a while the tentacle sucks you in and it works like a a grab attack so you can't spam it.
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>>164912457
that's the kind of story telling that Bloodborne excels at. It might just be the best of all the souls games at doing so. In most games, that would just be autistic overthinking but here, it may just be the case what happened.
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thoughts on nioh?

i heard it was coming out next month and i might get it if it was getting good reception
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>>164912807
Same
I've good things from the beta
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>>164911038
>you will never cuddle Maria to sleep after a long day of bullying
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>>164912914
wake up you dumb slut
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>>164912670
If you are who I think you are, that was soo close. Our hp bars were practically empty!
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>>164912784
That sounds a little complicated for a boss fight, more easter eggy since no one is using Augur against Ebrietas anyway.
I would rather it pacify her for one hit for each fight, like you use it and she recognizes that you're with the choir and backs off trying to kill you for a bit till you reengage. She was chill with the choir anyway. Telling them to look up and shit.
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>>164912457
She just went mad like everyone else and ran off a ledge
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>>164912981
I cant tell what weapon you were using but it has deceptively long range
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>>164912792
This. I know Bloodborne gets shat on for being too ambiguous sometimes and not giving real answers but it actually gives you plenty of reasonable scenarios to pick from to form lore theories and I think that's the closest thing to what Miyazaki intended these game's stories to be, him having a story with chunks of information unavailable and forming reasonable stories out of it with your imagination.
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>>164912914
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>>164912413
>mfw gf and I currently reading Part 5

Try Gascoigne cap/ashen hunter cap, decorative hunter garb and executioner trousers, use Bowblade weapon for Arrow
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>Celestial centipede burried underground
>Flower poking up
>Pops out when I walk over
300 hours in Chalice shit and I'm still finding new things
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>>164912784
Augur of Ebrietas isn't made of Ebrietas' arms, it shoots slugs that fall on the ground at the end of the animation.
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>>164913095
I use Bowblade/Chikage
Switch between the two from time to time.
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>>164911990
heres something i just drew
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Can't believe I never notice the sign that says "Hemwick!" above the entrance to that one cave.
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N-NO I WANNA PLAY ON MY PC! IT'S NOT FAIR BROS
WHY CAN'T I PLAY IT? I-I'M GONNA WRITE A PETITION. F-FUCK YOU GUYS I WANNA PLAY
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>>164913186
That sounds exactly like what Miyazaki is said to aim for, like looking at a fantasy book in a language you can't read but only seeing the pictures and making up what they mean on your own.
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>>164913340
In root Isz dungeons you can find centipedes walking on the ceiling.
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The FC is really 'no fun allowed' today.
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>>164913531
It's been a blast for me. What's your issue?
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>>164913424
We don't do this here, try >>>/v/
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>>164913229
lmao
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>>164913467
Neat! Any other really rare chalice occurrences? Are they more common in FRC?
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>>164913340
The Artworks actually calls them scorpions. The flower thing is their heads.

>>164913343
>Use phantasms, the invertebrates known to be the augurs of the Great Ones, to partially summon abandoned

Those tentacles are hers, otherwise you would be "summoning" her
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>>164913912
The "tentacles" fall on the ground after you shoot them, they're not part of her body.
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>>164913601
At first it was just fucking lag like I've never seen before mixed with a few douchey players. After I warmed up and switched to ethernet it got considerably better, but still less enjoyable than the last couple weeks. Lots of phantom hits, same matchups, weapons I don't like.

Just about every fight I've had tonight (I've had about 60 so far) has been a BoM, Reiter, or Hunter Axe. Getting old.
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>>164914007
They fall off because the portal closes and cuts them off.
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>>164913912
Not centipedes? Is the wiki always this shitty?
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I just noticed there's a sign that says "Hemwick!" at tgat one cave entrance. I thought I was past the point of noticing new things.

>>164913467
I'm telling ya
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>>164913912
>>164914145
They're called "fluorescent flower" in the artbook
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>>164914305
Holy fuck that artwork
How much is that book
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>>164914007
>The "tentacles" fall on the ground after you shoot them, they're not part of her body.

You're a liar. They get sucked backed into the portal.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cKkxqBpSSig
>0:22
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>>164914063
Nigga, I've seen more Amy arms in this FC than I've seen BoM and Reiters, who the fuck are you fighting?
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>>164914063
You sound like the one who is no fun allowed, friend.
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So how many of you actually browse the BB subreddit?
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>>164914371
2:26
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>>164914145
Oh wait NVM. The artworks actually calls them "luminescent flowers".
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>>164914367
I know someone once upload a mega with every page, not sure if anyone has the link.
>tfw capes/coats will never be a separate armor slot
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>>164914402
I can't remember names but there's two dudes using BoM, two dudes using Reiter (actually I think one of the BoM dudes is backing it with a Reiter) and only one dude rolling Amy Arm. I keep getting matched up to him too but he's a cool dude and a good fight so I can't complain.

>>164914463
>not wanting to see the same three weapons all night makes me no fun allowed
So sorry to offend.
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>>164914579
It is literally in the OP
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>>164914367
Mine was like $60 off of amazon
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>>164914579
>that squashed Alfred
My sides
Looks like a little goblin
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>>164914646
The one in the OP is incomplete, and shit overall
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>>164914592
Complaining is what makes you no fun allowed. There is plenty of variety week to week.
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>>164914579
This kills the hunter
I just want Cainhurst shit without the poof and frill
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>>164914720
I think the inplication is that he is tall and buffed as fuck.
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>>164914579
alfred really let himself go
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>>164914720
D-don't make fun of manlet Alfred, he can't help it.
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>>164912457
>>164913047
Holy shit I just noticed this.

There's a ribbon carved out on the door of the house by Gascoine's house. I'm telling you maybe that girl is just a neighbor who wanter Gascoine's daughter's ribbon.
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>>164914985
Why does the Yharnam Hunter Garb have so many hanging buckles?
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>>164912457
> Why does the giant whisper "so cold, dear sister"? Could that giant be their brother who got transformed by the scourge and maybe that's why Gascoine went out on the hunt in the first place, to look for him?

They all say that, it just happened that during ENB's YouTube playthrough the specific one said it at a specific time that seemed relevent, and a ton of people saw that playthrough and assumed it was a scripted line that always occurred.
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>>164914985
Henryks set looks okay without that stupid face covering
Only ever used it for loran camerabeast, but if it didn't have the face cover, I'd love it, some color to the clothes
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>>164914985
FLAIL

HUNTER
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>>164914491
Ok you got me there.
There's bo teason ti believe she can't regenerate her arms tho.
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>>164913820
The rarest of all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov8mCtknq8Q
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>>164915112
I always did find it peculiar that Gas' daughter says she's alone without her parents, yet the other girl calls herself her sister.
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>>164914985

Man, I love the Crowfeather cape, but a version without the cape would have been great
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>>164915139
In my game that giant only said it after the dead girl appeared. Got any footage of them saying it anywhere else?
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>>164915341
What the fuck is this fetish shit and is there a glyph to guarantee one
Its not even threatening
Its totally there just for vore people
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>>164915341
What's the deal with the clouds over the Notes?
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I started a new game to try a different build
I remember this early game being a lot harder
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Sorry to whoever I just silence blanked out of. Just noticed I left my blood echoes back home, didn't wanna loose 2 million blood echoes :^(
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>>164915561
You can find them in 8e9uxzht
They have a grab attack too.

>>164915584
It means that the player rated them.
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>Start a new game
>Start climbing ladder to first lamp
>Think of /v/ user being told Bloodborne is good
>Sensible chuckle
Every time
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Why do fucking giant sharks exist?
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>>164915341
what a strange creature
From are based for making it so obscure
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>>164915917
they loved too much
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>>164915749
Oh, okay, I thought you just didn't like me.
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>>164915917
just mutated more
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Wonder what it looks like if the grab attack kills you. Like, how the sharks swallow you up if their grab attack kills you.

>>164915760
Kek I get it
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>>164915760
>>164916180
explain?
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>>164915539
I've 100% heard the one near the Wrecking Ball giant in Cathederal Ward say it.
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>>164916272
Think of what you hear on that first ladder
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>>164916630
I'm really tired and drawing a blank anon sorry.
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Anyone able to help me at Great Itz Chalice Layer 3 ? You know, clean the basics, open the boss gate, kill it ? This alien dudes are just, JUST too annoying; ringing bell, pass: dood
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>>164916759
Its the cleric beast retard screech
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164916630
The Cleric Beast? Not him, but I still don't get it
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>>164916835
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>mfw ive played it so much ive tuned out that screech unintentionally
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>>164916891
/v/ really likes to shit on this game since its arguably the best and only reason to buy a whole console, and it will never be ported to their PC's
So when you mention it, they get anally annihilated
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>164917017
Always go slow in the beginning, its the most memorable, sound included
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>>164914713
The version for the west has yet to be released, right? Wondering if I should hold out till May, when it comes out.
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>>164917397
Dude get it off Amazon. Shipping was like 5 dollars, and there's lots of people shipping it from the U.S.
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>>164917397
Doing these fightclub has made me realize something I truly love about Bloodborne above all over Souls games.
I don't have to spend a consumable resource to PvP at all
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>Its a Mercurio wrecks my asshole episode
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>>164914985
>2016+1
>no trick flail
>no weapon that evolves from brutal spiked knuckles to a flail

>they added a stupid little hat to Eileen's mask
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>>164917862
That's more of a love of BB over Das2, there's usually been a full eye orb or equivalent except in that shitshow
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>>164917862
>>164917397
Didnt mean to reply
my bad
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>>164917786
The english version is coming may or march, I can't remember which and I'm a lazy fuck so I'm not gonna check.
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Sorry Hibiki, thought I wasn't on range !
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>>164918017
>No flail
>No powderkeg hand weapon that lets you make explosions similar to Keepers pyromancy
>No other self buff weapons besides tonitrus
>No way to marry anyone
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>>164913912
How come you can use them against her?
Also why do some fall on the ground?
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>>164918336
>How come you can use them against her?
The magic is probably forcefully ripping her limbs to you for your own purposes

cant think of other examples atm but I know theres at least 1 movie/game out there where magic was entirely based off using the abilities of creatures that people bound simply for that purpose
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>>164905906
Thank you.
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>>164918336
It might be an Ebrietas on a different plane, aliens don't need to work in ways in which we can understand
Also, none actually fall on the ground. The retard anon thinks tentacles fall, when only the phatasms (Slugs) fall down, the tentacles just go back in the portal, which makes sense since the slugs are used to summon her.
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>>164918147
The one I have has english translations along every japanese text. Is that one supposed to yave only English?
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>>164906078
The doll has a butt!
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>>164918678
No she doesn't you filthy pervert
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>>164918460
>I know theres at least 1 movie/game out there where magic was entirely based off using the abilities of creatures that people bound simply for that purpose

Name? Sounds rad as fuck
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>>164918815
Did you miss the part where I said I cant think of it atm. If it comes to me ill let you know but i'm really tired and out of it right now.
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>>164918943
That sounds like Legend of Legaia.
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Is Saif Top tier in PvP?
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>>164918678
delete this
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>>164919113
never heard of it but ill look into it
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>>164919164
It's a PSX game lol
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Baldur? You here? Guy using Chikage and Bloodletter, just fought Kozak of Loran?
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>>164919386
Kozak, that you?

Bro, I gotta be honest here, you gotta stop backpedaling, spending 10 minutes chasing you around just isn't fun
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>>164919471
This.
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Why didn't you protect her, /bbg/?

>>164913371
not bad, anon.
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>cane whip
>no cane sword
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Somebody need some help ? (Except chalices, in an explosion of estupidity I removed all of them)
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https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/siren/cid=UP9000-CUSA02198_00-SCUS973550000001
Buy this, its story and atmosphere are pretty much identical to Fishing Hamlet's
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>>164919471
Self-cleaning oven tactic on the Chikage. I'm not getting close to that, so I'm just waiting. I may sound like Lucy in my self-righteousness, but my total lack of talent at PvP needs as much help as it can get.
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Saif is OP pls nerf.
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>>164919574
Do feel bad killing her. She isn't hostile and just sitting there.

Is there any lore/item telling you to kill her ingame?
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>>164919671
>https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/siren/cid=UP9000-CUSA02198_00-SCUS973550000001
Hold it!
is that the original PS2 game or the casualized remake?
The first game is a rough hidden gem and is a very interesting stealth horror game.
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>>164919724
>Self-cleaning oven tactic
what is this
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>>164919771
>Is there any lore/item telling you to kill her ingame?
I cant think of any desu, i would also like to know this
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>>164919820
Let the opponent stay in tricked Chikage form to run down health. Cheap tactic I used against Crowsteel.
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>>164919724
Nigga, I was using the fucking beast claws and you still spent the whole fight backing off.
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Baldur, what is that Giant Snek summon spell you used after you rekt me?
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>>164919860
The note on the second floor of the Lecture Building saying to hunt the Great Ones.
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>>164919795
It's a remaster of the original PS2 title.
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>>164919974
Madaras whistle
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>>164919890
this is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Not only will that take forever, no one is just going to stay tricked for long enough for it to make an impact.
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>>164919724
You did the same shit to me for the entire fight and I was using a Kirkhammer.

Pretty annoying m80. Backpedaling and tossing poison knives is a /dsg/ thing.
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>>164920014
ech
I heard its alright but having played the original, I just felt disgusted by the Remake, like it didn't get what made the first one good at all,
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how do you beat defiled hot dog
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>>164919771
The text that says to overcome any hindrance between you and the truth to claim what is yours. If you think that getting the Isz chalice will help you reach the truth then there you go.
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>>164920148
I never played the remake personally, but I only heard negative things about it.
This is the original by the way, but HD and with trophy support.
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>>164920181
or a better question would be
what does he do before charging, because it always catches me off guard
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Destrell you need to turn off the porn downloads my dude
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>>164920435
He glows
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God Damn, i cant believe how hard the Chikage hits
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>>164920435
are you joking

he glows super bright, there's a bunch of flames and shit, and he kinda rolls his head around before facing it downards
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>>164920181
Bait head swipes, break it's face. Charge is easily telegraphed, just dodge left or right. He lifts his head before doing it.
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>>164920318
oh, i thought you meant it was Blood Curse
Well that's cool then. Maybe I'll replay it someday
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>>164920181
1/2
Do this until...
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>>164915341
Oh God that's hot.
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Ayy lmaoo
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>>164920181
2/2
...it's head breaks. Then keep hitting it in the head.
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>>164920509
>>164920585
>>164920589
thanks I just got him
definitely a test of patience
>>164920860
>>164921061
that's more or less what I did, except with a tricked threaded cane
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>>164915341
Its so wild to think people put so much work into drawing and modeling and animating things like this and maybe 4% of players get to see it.
I think this about a lot of things in FROM games, but some of the obscure stuff is fascinating. I respect them so much for how much hard work they put into just small shit like this.
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>chalice rom
reeeeeeeee who thought this was a good idea
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>>164921449
Dude, he's so easy, just like, don't get hit :^)
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>>164921632
I'm just baffled they put a boss that was designed for a large open space and stuck him in a dungeon with no room. I'm gonna have to go straight for him, no use taking out the smaller ones it's useless.
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>>164921159
I don't even like chalices so I'll probably never see it. I just replay the main game.
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>>164921449
The pillared room can be a pain in the ass, but the real threat is the spiderlings.

If you don't have the natural wherewithal to avoid them and deal with Rom, spend the first phase clearing them all out before Rom agros.

Should make the fight doable.
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>>164921903
I've still yet to complete them because they're so monotonous, but there are a lot of enemies and assets exclusive to them, even a weapon.

I mean I only found out yesterday that you can find the chikage inside the castle cainhurst, I always thought you just had to buy it with the badge.
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Holy shit, I forgot all about the Pthumerian Elder down in the lower hintertomb.

Caught me off guard for minute
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>>164922134
>I mean I only found out yesterday that you can find the chikage inside the castle cainhurst,
wat
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>>164922307
ok well either that or I was lied to...
I'm becoming increasingly suspicious that I was lied to.
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>>164922425
AFAIK you can only get Chikagay buy buying it with the badge, or finding a Lost/Uncanny in a dungeon.
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Goddamn Noble how many times have we fought tonight? lol

Is it just you and me left?
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>>164922851
there's at least 3 others fighting i think
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>>164922134
You're probably thinking of reiterpallasch. If the chikage was found inside Cainhurst, you'd have a lot fewer people asking for help on a low level Logarius
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Can someone help me understanding how the summoning works in this game?
I'm trying to summon a friend with a password and same level and it doesn't work, we've been trying for like 20-30min.
Are we missing something to make it work?
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>>164923260
Are you guys both wearing Mensis Cage antenas ti make sure you are connected to each other?
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>>164923260
Are one of you ringing a Beckoning Bell and the other a Small Resonant Bell?
Are you both sure you have the right passwords, and are ringing in the same general area?
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>>164923260
Where are you trying to summon?

Make sure you're ringing the right Bells, have Insight, and are set to Worldwide.
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What's your favorite boss in the game? Why is it your favorite?
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>>164923981
Orphan
>God-tier phase 1 music
>exciting, relentless fight
>an end to my favourite area in the game
>boss arena is absolutely gorgeous
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>try to use the HMLS in the FC
>6-fight losing streak
No wonder Ludwig went insane.
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>>164923981
Ludwig
>He's challenging and aggressive, doesn't give you big openings for a breather or to heal.
>You can't just spam dodge2win like many other bosses
>That Moonlight sword reveal and dialogue
>That music
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>>164923981
> Lady Maria
The music, the setting, her moveset, her character, I like human bosses, simpathize with her lore, I like her replica too, Rakuyo is my favorite weapon
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>>164923981
Ludwig
>Godlike music for both phases
>both phases test your ability to deal with two types of aggressive behavior that require different tactics
>Is the culmination of the fabled Ludwig being revealed as a twisted and almost unrecognizable form
>"Ah... You were at my side all along!"
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>>164924146
>>164924315
>>164924318
>>164924353
>All DLC bosses
really makes you think
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>Fighting Martyr Logaarius
>Tries to summon the sword storm
>I shot the sword and cancel it
>Tries to summon the sword storm
>I shot the sword and cancel it
>Tries to summon the sword storm
>I shot the sword and cancel it
>Tries to summon the sword storm
>I shot the sword and cancel it
>Tries to summon the sword storm
>I shot the sword and cancel it

I wasted like fifteen bullets on this nonsense.
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>>164924446
Why not just hit the sword with your sword?
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>>164924408
Yeah, Soulsborne DLCs are pretty good, but is it for luring people into buying it, who knows
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>>164924408
Everyone is aware the DLC bosses are good, what the fuck is your point?
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>>164924446
Logarius a shit t b h
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Hey, I'm new to bloodborne and just beat the game a few days ago, could some nice anon point me in the right direction when it comes to chalice dungeons? where can i farm to get the best blood gems for my weapons?
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>>164924557
No, I was able to cancel the sword storm by shooting at it, but then he IMMEDIATELY pulled the same attack. He kept doing this and we were locked in this cycle until he actually tried to attack me.
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>>164924743
>point me in the right direction when it comes to chalice dungeons?
>where can i farm to get the best blood gems for my weapons?
All this information can be found in the OP
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>>164924743
Check the OP
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>>164924743
Read the OP.
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>>164924867
>>164924915
Oh silly me, i should be a better anon in the future and read the rules first
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>>164923981
Micolash because I like bullying nerds.

But Ludwig and Orphan are the best fights.
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>>164924581
Except for DaS3 lol

>>164924743
Bro literally the only reason to farm gems is to do more chalice dungeons.

So just do the "story" chalice dungeons for now and then just keep recrafting the level 5 chalices with worse and worse shit until you get bored and just go for the passwords.
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>>164925114
Gems are good for PVP.
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>>164925114
I liked the Father Ariandel and Elfriede bossfight, the Champion of the Arena and the wolf tho... I think those were all, the NPCs were very good and the weapons too, the area was annoying
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>>164925214
...

...

>tfw checkmated
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>>164924315
>>164924353
These niggas know whats up, for sure my favorite souls boss let alone bb boss

runner up goes to cleric beast, its such a great intro to the game.
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What BL is the meta ? Im currently 100, should I go up to 120 ?
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>>164923981
Papa G and Gehrman from the main game
Orphan and Ludwig from the dlc

Papa G is my overall favorite, high quality early boss to get you in the mood for what's to come
>dat voice
>dat lore
>dat music
>dat change in pace
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>>164923981
Gascoigne.

>perfect tutorial boss to introduce you to the speed and ferocity of the combat
>teaches you how to parry and dodge properly
>an exhilarating fight even on NG+ cycles
>third phase transformation comes out of the blue
>gorgeous arena
>god tier theme
>excellent dialogue
>tragic character backstory

I fucking love Gascoigne as a boss and character.
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And with my third or fourth consecutive loss to Angus, I'm calling this one done for me. Clearly neither I nor Kozak of Loran were meant for great things in the realm of PvP.
With that, Kozak once again retreats into the depths of Loran to lick his wounds. I won't be fighting anymore, but I'll keep posting for a little.
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>>164925397
117 at the very most
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>>164925649
Why is he so tall?
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>>164925397
80-120, 98-117 here.
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>>164925282
You're the opposite of me, I loved the Area of Arieadel but I absolutely hated Ariandel and Elfriede boss fight
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>>164925806
superior genes
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>>164925665
Beast Claws aren't easy to PvP with
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Best Chalice to farm Arcane gems?
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>>164925397
I'm 143 and i got a good handful of matches at the FC tonight
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>quality build
>cant move away from ludwigs because of the monstrous damage
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>>164926038
Cold Abyssals come from every chalice type. If it's specifically Arcane gems, Isz for Watchers and Bone Ash Hunters. Check the OP
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>>164926218
>Isz for Watchers and Bone Ash Hunters
So he can literally never see one? Nice.
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>>164926354
>farming arc gems from story Isz
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>first run was SKL/BLT
>second run was STR/ARC
What do you suggest next /bbg/?
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>>164926187
>Crown + Cainurst armor + LHB + Loche shield

Why leave it. Embrace it and become stylish as fuck
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>>164926442
You would think that from a chalice that is clearly stylized after Kin would be rich with Arcane gems
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>>164926442
You can get 26.3%s from Beast-Possessed and 24%s from Ebrietas.

I'd rather use either of those than farm Watchers for two days.
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>>164926452
stats for first run?
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And with the next lag spike I'm out. Fuck this week sucked. I don't think I even managed a 1:1.

Nevertheless, GGs Amy Arm Guy and Hunter's Axe guy. Was fun.
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>>164925806
He's turning into a beast, by the time you meet him, he's practically on the verge of the turning and he does so in the fight.

I think some people experience beasthood differently. For instance, random villagers start turning and gain beastly traits like the usual collapsed pupils, elongated limbs, claws, hair, etc. Then some people like Gascoigne start just getting bigger (he was probably a pretty bigguy4u to begin with). But there's also people like Vicar Amelia who retains her normality until she can't hold it in any longer. I think Gascoigne was like this, but to a lesser extent. As an active hunter, he was slipping a little more every time, adding to his exaggerated size.

It's also a gameplay thing, to make the enemies bigger and more intimidating and easier to focus on.
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>>164926568
BPS drops 23%, not 26%. I'd rather farm Isz Watchers for a 27.2% Arc Triangle than Bribri for a perfect 24%+15 one.
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>>164926735
thats a cool explanation, thanks. Curious about your thoughts on the beggar and his transformation. How come he turns back to a human momentarily before turning again to fight you upon beating you? Gascoine does this too, but Amelia dosnt. Think its just a gameplay thing or perhaps theres a rationale?
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>>164926839
>23%, not 26%
Yeah, I hate being dyslexic.

Why farm for perfection at all? It isn't like the +15 matters an iota anyway.
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>>164925959
>>>
> Anonymous 01/08/17(Sun)00:58:06 No.16
I get that. The problem is that I create builds I like with weapons I want, completely disregarding what may or may not be the meta. As alien of a concept as this sounds, I just want to have fun. The fights against Angus and Ayy helped with that goal, Angus looking like a discount Madaras brother, and Ayy with the Kos Parasite.
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>>164926595
25 SKL 50 BLT
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>>164926950
>As alien of a concept as this sounds, I just want to have fun
Well that's a little self-righteous.
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>>164926941
If you had ever had a 1 HP opponent clap at your corpse, you would understand.
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>>164926941
Numbers. Plus the drop rate for 27.2% Arc hasn't been terrible in my experience, and that usually out-damages a perfect Bribri gem, which is a bit harder to farm.
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>>164927060
Admittedly, yes. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I just want to have fun with this.
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>>164926941
Until you've used perfect gemmed weapons it's hard to understand why people go through the trouble.

A 31/31/31 chikage is pure bliss. It's overkill.
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These chalices are a pretty cool addition, why doesn't ds3 have something like it.
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Is it worth 99 Bloodtinge + Repeating Pistol ? Can I be a scumbag with this in pvp ?
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>>164927236
Because the normies complained
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>>164927168
Well what's your build?

You can probably hit 45/15/50/25/x/x and be well within the meta. Jest get yourself some 27%s or if you can't/don't want to get 25 Skill, a Heavy Abyssal.

>>164927236
>why doesn't ds3 have something like it.
Casuls.
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>>164926101
>>>>>>>143 in an FC
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>>164927282
fill me in senpai
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>>164927339
I think I fought him too.

I fought some dude who had at least 2k HP and hit me for 70% with any BoM attack he landed on me.
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>>164926735
In one of the interview with Miyazaki, he said that the scourge of the beast is like a shackle. The more one tries to fight the it, the bigger the "recoil" when it finnaly breaks.

That's why clerics become bigger beasts, they have been resisting the transformation for too long, same whith ludwig, whereas the common weak yharnamite folk just has a smaller transformation.
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>>164926873
as stupid as it sounds I alays tought that it was because he accepted his beast side
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>>164927261
No, at 50 Blt you get 85% of damage from the stat for weapons. That extra 49 levels nets you 15%, not worth the investment. Only the Madaras Whistle would still scale well past 50, and it's not very effective.
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>>164927325
50/20/41/25/7/15
I made it before using the planner seriously, so it's nowhere near as good as it could be. The gems on the Beast Claw are all >18%, lightweights in comparison. Because I'm a lazy bastard and easily bored, I haven't gone out of my way to farm higher gems. This is also why I keep making new hunters rather than go into NG+
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>>164927376
E-celebs told them too
Maybe some tried but it didn't have enough cutscenes or """story"""
Those that did try probably tapped out at Cursed Amy
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>>164927642
I thought Japs didn't give a flying fuck about e-celebs and shit like that.
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>>164927594
Yeah if you brought your Str to 50 and got a set of 27%s, you could increase your damage by about 30%. Big difference.
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>Fighting BLT build, we're both down to ~1/3rd health
>They start spamming evelyn at me, trying to chip my last few hundred health
>BMA my minreq repeater, then trade shots with them
>I take ~150 damage
>They take 400

bloodtinge is a meme stat
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>>164926101
How often did you invade as opposed to got invaded?

You can be 138 I think and still be invaded by 98's, the fact you connected to anyone at all proves how dishonest the whole thing is. But if you managed to invade then all hope is truly lost.
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>>164927725
maybe japs didn't like it?
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>>164927742
50 BLT BMA eve does around 1200

Not really a meme.
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>>164927498
Last night I was PvP'ing in Middle Loft for the first time in a while. I had two instances of people using Madaras' on me, and I died both times and so did they.
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>>164927774
perhaps e-celeb japs didnt liked it
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>>164927769
Tonight, i've only been invaded tonight, i've invaded no one
Otherwise, i still get quite a bit of activity in the main game.
Just about as much as my lvl 50 character
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>>164927769
>the fact you connected to anyone at all proves how dishonest the whole thing is
For all of the retards in /bbg/ talking about being 117+, I only fought two or three people who dropped 20k, making them in the 110s.

Everyone else dropped between 5k and 9k. Most of the people who show up might actually be 90-105.
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>>164927729
That would put me at level 119, close enough to the preferred level here, I suppose. I definitely have the echoes for it, so I just need the gems. I might give this a try. Thanks!
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>>164927827
Maybe if you hit somebody out of a roll.
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>>164907256
>pretending AB would ever let you combo him like that after any old dodge
You can get off 2 untricked hits at an absolute maximum before you have to dodge away, because he will almost certainly slash or slam you if you try to go for a third. You can only punish him like that if he commits to a big attack, like a jump attack
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>>164926873
>>164927489
This one is a theory some other anon posted here. He said that people turn into beasts because it's the human body's way of fighting the old blood/kin/great one's influendce from turning them mad. We know that frenzy and beasthood are the two ends on the insight spectrum. The more insight (or intelligence) the weaker you are and the more susceptible to being hurt by too much knowledge (frenzy), while the dumber you are the more resistant you are to frenzy and the closer you are to beasthood.

The theory goes that dark beasts are the final evolution (or de-evolution) of beasts, where the body is completly transformed into a beastly idiot, immune to frenzy because you are too dumb to even think, and the blue sparks is a trait evolved to fight off the kin in one's body (since kin is weak to lightning).

Since the beggar produces lighting, we can asume he is a dark beast, so maybe he got to a point where he can just tell it's body to trigger the transformation instead of needing the bodyguard to sense old blood.

That, or he somehow got hold of the beast embrace rune and he can transform at will by envisioning it.
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>>164928082
not him but mine does that much with BMA
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>>164926568
Beast Possessed Soul has the same droprate as the Watchers you simpleton. It's the global Isz loot pool, the same effects you get from Ayy's just tuned up to boss level.
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>>164928234
All I know is of the three times I've fought an Isz B-PS, twice I got an arcane gem, and for the dozens of times I've fought Isz Watchers, I've gotten one. I think.
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Can Pthumerian Descendant be parried?
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>>164928359
yeah, that's how most people beat him
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>>164928359
its required
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>>164928142
i dont think so, mainly because darkbeasts have a simian skull and yarham beast have a lupine skull.

I think that this imply that there are many strains of beasthood and that darkbeasts and yarnham beasts are two different ''families'' and not gradients from the same scale.
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>>164928359
Yes, easiest way to beat him. So is chain backstabbing while trying to shift to the 2nd phase.
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>>164928231
1200? That shouldn't be possible in PvP under normal circumstances.

Evelyn has 140 base damage and 1.35 BLT scaling. At 50 Bloodtinge, you have a BNS of 0.85, giving you:

140 + 140 * 1.35 * 0.85 = 300.65 AR

With a 31.5% gem, you'd get ~395 AR. 395 * 2.5 = 988 unmitigated damage when you bone ash it.

If your opponent had low defense and blood damage reduction, then 1200 might be possible if you hit them out of a roll.
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Anyone wanna run the DLC with me starting at the first lamp? I already opened the shortcut because of bowblade

BL67 pass is neet
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So Star Wars was actually pretty good. Not great, but alright.

That scene at the end with Vader murdering the shit out of a bunch of hapless rebels took it from a 6 to a 7 for me.
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>>164926873
This is something I forgot to mention but was trying to get across, >>164927475

Humanity is a shackle, the longer you hold onto it, the worse your transformation is. Gascoigne was probably struggling to hold onto his, so bits of him were turning over time, like his teeth, eyes and physical stature.

But people like Amelia, as clergy, not only is forcing her beasthood down, but is also privy to the usage of other strains of blood, making her eventual mutation even more grotesque.

As for the beggar, he's certainly very strange, but lingering human traits aren't that rare. For instance, the beast patients in Old Yharnam can be seen praying to or making some kind of obeisance to the crucified Bloodstarved Beast in their church. I think the beggar simply had popped just there and then and we got a lingering trace of humanity before it was snuffed out. Had he popped naturally, it might have been there, but then died down over time. Personally, I think he was mad and non-chalant about turning anyway. We find him munching on corpses. His change was probably a very easy and untraumatic one.
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>>164928142
Beggar actually turns into an Abhorrent Beast, Darkbeasts, at least that we see, are all undead.
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>>164928760
Still looking for cooperators?
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I heard you guys were looking for Bloodborne memes.
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Loads of people keep telling me Roam is the peak of the game,does this mean his area and boss battle or just in general like when you fight roam and after the games is the best?

i fought Roam and beat him and he was nothing special and neither was his area
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>>164929831
>Roam
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>>164929831
Rom is a pretty mediocre boss, but it's a turning point in the story.
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>>164929903
Oh shit
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The peak of the game arguably the Hunter's Nightmare, or if you're only counting base game, everything up to Vicar Amelia. Everything after her is still great but not as great imo
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FC dead?
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>>164929493
Abhorrent Beast uses the "Darkbeast" music and also lightning. I think it's safe to assume a connection.
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Holy cow Hibiki you bullied the shit out of him!
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>>164930178
It is for me now.
GGs everyone, it was fun. Hopefully I should have a more appropriately leveled character next time.
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>>164930156
>>164929948
Cheers
i just got the DLC,is it as good as people say it is.
where would you rank it with the other souls dlc?
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>>164929493
Well the game makes it clear through all of Archibal (aka bloodborne's tesla) stuff that blue sparks is the staple of a Darkbeast, so I'm assuming any heart with lightning powers is a darkbeast.

So Paarl, loran silverbeasts, and abhorrent beast. I know only Paarl has the "darkbeast" label, but I think the game wants us to assume the other ones are darkbeasts too. "Abhorrent" and "silverbeast" are just adjectives rather than classifications.

Also, do people in Bloodborne's universe know what lighting is or do they just call it "that one blue sparkle thingy that darkbeasts jizz out"?
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>>164929694
Where's that HunterSnellingRedJelly.jpg when I need it?
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>>164930320
Imo, it's better than AotA. Haven't really tried DS2 DLC though.
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>>164930425
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>>164930320
Thre exxcelent bosses and two meh ones. Excelent level design.

AotA was shit level design but all of it's 4 bosses were too notch.

So bosses:
DaS>Bb

Level design:
Bb>DaS

Overall:
Bb>DaS just because bb is toghter and more refined
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>>164930320
>>164930460
I haven't really thought about it but I suppose it is better than AotA but I'm still remiss to say I like BB more than DaS2 because my nostalgia wont allow it.
It's also better than the DaS2 by virtue of its format alone. Whether or not you like DaS2 or not doesn't really matter, having all the DLC be all in one stretch of areas is better than having 3 separate areas, imo
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>>164930348
But Beggars beastmode is the Abhorrent Beast model, and is found in Loran very much alive, along with another undead Darkbeast. I'm of the opinion Darkbeasts are kept animate by that electricity.

Silverbeasts are another huge mystery. They are found only in the Nightmare and Loran. Loran, as we know, knew electricity, and has random arcs playing around its areas. There's some connection between Loran, Darkbeasts, Abhorrents, Silverbeasts and the Nightmare, the common thread being electricity. It's really weird, to be honest. Silverbeasts seem like they belong in the Nightmare since their facial makeup doesn't really resemble any other beast, and are also references to the Gug monster found in Lovecraft's Dreamlands story, Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, which ostensibly provided inspiration for the concept and mechanics of the Nightmare.
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>>164918251
>>No other self buff weapons besides tonitrus
Boomhammer
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>>164930578
Amazing
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So what IS the deal with these blobs anyway?
They seem insane like the rest of the patients but aren't hostile and seem oddly happy to be in the states they are in. I guess its because they are apparently unkillable. Except for Adeline who perishes when you give her the third Brain Fluid. What are they?
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>>164930849
Leftover experiments at creating celestial emissaries.
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>>164930849
They're brains that have detached from their bodies and have become completely taken in by the plip plopping of the cosmos (which in Bloodborne's world is basically a metaphysical ocean)

Plip plop, plip plop
Splish splash, splish splash
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>>164930460
>>164930634
>>164930641
Does the dlc add more weapons and armour?
do you buy the weapons/armour or can you find them in the world.That's one thing im kinda annoyed with BB,really wish i found the holy blade instead of just buying it.
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Anyone up for helping at Logarius? geriatric bastard is killing my consumables. pass+ fug
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>>164931083
What level are you? I want to know which of my characters to bring.
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>>164931058
Yes, quite a few actually.
Yes, most the weapons in the dlc fixed the problem of the original game by having most the weapons as item pickups or drops from NPC's and bosses
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>>164931165
lvl 46 trying to start a bloodtinge build. every one up till him was solo able
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>>164931259
coming. I can ring at lamp or fog, which would you prefer?
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>>164931058
Yes, all DLC weapons and armor will be received without buying besides one gun and an armor set since it's boss armor.
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>>164931326
I'm at the fog right now.
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>>164931408
ringing
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>>164931365
>>164931225
Nice,do people have a reccomended level for the dlc.
i was think of doing it before the last boss
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>>164931503
+65, most people do it before the last boss but it could be done right after Amelia.
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>>164930691
>Darkbeasts are kept animate by electricity

I like that.

I thought the reason Silverbeasts were in the nightmare was because, much like yharnam and the hunter's nightmare, Nightmare frontier is a nightmare version of Loran (since we find the Loran chalice here) so those loran silverbeasts got pulled into the nightmare.

I agree that the silverbeasts look too nightmarish compared to Yharnam beasts, but, again, maybe that's what a beasts eventually turns into.

I also felt Loran fell to lightning rather than "knowing" about lightning. It got over by the beast plague, those beasts turned into dark beasts which ran it further down into the ground and that's why there's lightning clouds everywhere along with abhorrent beasts, loran silverbeasts, and loran darkbeasts.


On another note, do you think Paarl was a human being or a an animal before it got turned into a Darkbeast? Miyazaki describes it as a "once magnificent beast" that was protecting an area that fell to the disease of the beasts. I like to think Paarl was in one of the Yahar'gul cells where Archibald would experiment on him to create lightning weapons and the Paarl clawed his way to where we fight him through the rocks (we see a big hole in the wall when we get to his boss arena) but Miyazaki makes it seem like it was protecting Old Yharnam originally since that's the place that got "overrun". So did Paarl come from Yahar or Old Yharnam? Aslor, if Paarl is bejng held together by bandages then is a human responsible for outting him together?
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>>164930849
They're hapoy because they have become enlightened. They became succesful experiments at become one with the ocean/space/cosmos.
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hello???? I'm ringing outside Kenny Loggins for you senpai, wy@
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>>164931891
right outside the old bastards place, pass is fug all common letters
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>>164931741
Which is this?
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>>164931971
Do you have impurity on?
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>>164932060
nope, no co-op runes. should i just take the password off?
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>>164931971
just silence and re-ring.
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>>164932185
done. if it's not working i'll just restart bloodborne completely
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>>164932035
You need to find for the blood moon, then go into Iosefka's clinic, look for her room and you'll find her pregnant, but then she'll have red jelly instead. That's how you unlock the rune.
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>>164929590
Sorry I took so long, took me a while to realize I had to activate the fight in order to ring the bell for Maria.
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>>164932273
I'll do the same.
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>>164932356
alright, just reset from the home menu, password is still fug. is your network set for local or worldwide?
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>>164932515
Oh sorry, I forgot I don't even have psn+ lel
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>>164932562
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>>164932562
lol its cool, I ain't even mad. just gonna watch smut while i wait for anyone passing through.
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Anyone up for defiled Amy?
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>>164932316
>That image
You fucker, took me a few seconds.
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>>164932705
No but I'm up for defiling your mother (again)
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>>164932805
bye milo
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Who wants to bully maria and wreck the hamlet with me?
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>>164933612
pass is lol BL 75
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Are there any black characters in this game. I'm concerned about diversity. There only seems to be one stereotypical asian.
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>>164930849
They overhydrated and were linked to the cosmos.
Every so often i remember how fucking weird this game is.
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>>164933908
Who is the asian?
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>>164933908
Henryk and potentially Simon.

But remember Miyazaki is a nip, he doesn't give a single shit about western SJW's.
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>>164933950
Yamamura
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executioners r gay
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>>164930634
what are the meh bosses? I'm guessing one is Living failures, and Orphan and Ludwig aren't it
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>>164934125
Ludwig is definitely one of the shitty bosses from the DLC. The other is Laurence.
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>>164934040
Yeah I thought Simon might be black but Henryk? Since when? Is that why the little white kids call him "granddad?"
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>>164933908
>mfw all the butthurt over the protagonist of Nioh being white.
I probably would've prefered him to be Japanese anyway but my god is the butthurt sweet. Even better that Nips do not care about their complaints one bit.
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>>164933908
Yeah, there are dogs in the game. They represent the role of blacks in a civilized world.
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>>164934660
You have 10 seconds to delet this.
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Nightmare of Mensis, that first part can kiss my fucking ass, nevermind the frenzy (not that bad) but those fucking spiders, jesus christ.
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>>164920237
Someone post this on the other thread
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>>164934441
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>>164934240
After the ability to summon NPC's for certain boss fights came around people could get a much better look at some of the characters, especially Henryk since you can summon him for a few fights.

What little of his skin we see is dark brown.
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What stat distribution should I shoot for using the tonitrus and hmls effectively?

25/50? 50/25?
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>>164934441
>Nioh, a game made by the Japanese primarily for the Japanese, is pissing primarily white SJW's off because they think the Japanese developers are racist towards the Japanese for making the main character """"""white""""""
This shit reads like a fucking parody of a parody, this is some next level shit right here.
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>>164934805
Wait until you get to loran comerade!

Infinite spawning hordes of red spiders that can chunk 50% off of a build with 50 vit and kill a leveled character before you can react if they surround you before you see them running at you.
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>>164935614
To be fair the Japanese are pretty racist, imagine what shitfit would be thrown if the protag was Mr. Popo.
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>>164935758
Not as racist as the blacks.
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>>164933908
All over the place, the beast plague is a metaphor for the spread of black "culture".
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>>164935758
Weren't the Japanese pretty much trying to completely eradicate the culture of the Ainu people until fucking 2008?
It's kind of funny how SJW's never ever bring that shit up.
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>>164936003
Well there was the Rape of Nanking and the Korean occupation.
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>>164936095
Don't forget the Filipino rape houses, the Bataan Death March, Unit 731.

All of which they still try to deflect with "b-but, 'Murika nuked us" if not just outright deny.
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>>164936003
>>164936095
>>164936247
>believing the "Japan did something wrong" meme
They literally did nothing wrong
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Does oil urn apply the debuff to the body part it hit, or the whole enemy body?
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>>164936645
Whole body
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>>164935613
25/50 for Toni and beams.
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Do you think Amelia's awoo pussy is big enough for you to crawl inside and take a nap?
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>>164937137
Do you think that if there were two beasts on the moon, and one killed the other with a rock, that it'd be kind of fucked up?
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>>164937137
I really REALLY want to fuck Amelia now.
Fuck you anon.
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WAS GETTING #REKT PART OF THEIR PLAN?
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>>164909361
top hat honestly, it's just so simple and conceptually goofy I can't help but like it
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>>164905375
>tfw all you'd wanna do is stay in dream world and keep doll happy.
>But you can't, because if you try to do that Hunter-senpai will try to kill you/you'll become a cripple/you'll become a space octopi.
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>>164919671
But isn't H.P. Lovecraft's work most similar to the fishing hamlet?
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Just got to Byrgenwryth, how far through am I? 1/3? 1/2?
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>>164940486
>not becoming a space octopus to more efficiently please all of doll's holes at once
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>>164940649
About half
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Accidentally pressed on the wrong lantern when I wanted to port and got a message "not working currently"
When I went there on foot some NPC tried to kill me and another one helped me.

What happened there ?
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>>164941281
Part of Eileen's questline
She went to Oedon chapel to kill Henryk.
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>>164941281
Hoonting
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>>164941402
Weird I never talked to her.

Where can I find her now ?
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I always thought that the doll would put you inside herself (any orifice big enough) so that as you grow inside her, you and her become one and the same, then you stop growing when you fully occupy the space within the doll and the doll would technically be alive. Bretty hot tbqh
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>>164941801
Leave and take the guy fapping to Ebrietas with you.
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Can you get invaded in chalices because there are those bellringers around ?
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>Bloody Crow of Cainhurst

What the actual fuck? Why is it so damn powerful?
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>>164942334
>Story Chalices
No, outside of vileblood/executioner or Hunter of Hunters which can still happen

>FRC's
If you have a summon with you, yes. Also there's the off chance of a sinister bell maiden spawning on some layers but the game will let you know that.
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>Defeat Cleric Beast
>Common
>64.2%
>35.8% of BB owners never killed the first boss

u wat mates
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>>164942334
only in roots
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>>164942740
I mean, it's technically possible at least half of those people never found it to begin with.
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>>164942740
Check on the percentage on Gehrman
Hell, even the fact the Gascoigne isn't 100% is pretty hilarious.
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>>164942740
it's 80 % on psnprofiles but i don't understand how that works, which is more correct or whatever
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Should i farm gems on ng+ since i will have all the materials for sale?

Also, should i equip the eye rune for a better drop chance and do i need to create a Pthumeru Ihyll Root Chalice first with all the offerings so that i can then create one from glyphs?
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>>164944132
Yes.
Eye rune only gives more chunks and rocks.
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>>164943340
I think 30% beat Wetnurse, which isn't bad when you look at average completion %'s. it's impossible to say how many did each ending because lots of people got them all.
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Can I sell thsoe +1 +0,7% gems or do they have a use later on ?
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>>164944893
You can sell them, store them away or straight up delete them from inventory. They get outdated the moment you get better gems
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>>164945091
tfw I played so much mobage shit that I expect every game to have retarded stuff like refining ...
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>>164942740
The 7% of players are the ones we communicate with here.
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Do I have to keep sinister and frc isz open to be able to glyph search all dungeons?
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>>164945695
no
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How the fuck do I dodge Amy's jump?
On my first char it just never seemed to hit me. But now it's completely random bullshit. If I don't get hit by the legs, it's the arms.
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Vileblooood fighting in Cathedral Ward
Oh man look at thise Cainhurst gooo
Its the freakiest shooowww
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>>164940569
The Fishing Hamlet is also inspired by Innsmouth, but it's very different in terms of looks and atmosphere.
Innsmouth is described as a very sunny place with ancient architecture, whereas the Fishing Hamlet is rainy, swampy and all its structures are made of rotten wood.
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>>164946419
have you tried rolling?
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>tfw encountering Mioclash first time ever
I cant tell what I've been expecting but this was fun as fuck.
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>>164947126
Nvm, figured it out.
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>>164923981
Are UBs kin?
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Will be doing my best to clear out Lower Loran. Feel free to join. Pass "squid".
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Who is up for some NG++ nightmare frontier co-op action?

Pass: Amy
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>tfw get my shit kicked in by the eels while fighting the 2 giants on the island in poison lake
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>>164925806
As a hunter grows older he will kill more beasts and thus he will grow taller. The most skilled hunters are at least 15ft tall.
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>>164942372
He's a parody of stronk edgelords.
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>>164947215
AWOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>164947215
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>>164931618
>Miyazaki describes it as a "once magnificent beast" that was protecting an area that fell to the disease of the beasts
The image you posted is fake by the way, it's not from an actual interview
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>>164934821
>>164920237
Such dumb shit my dudes
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>>164924581
>Soulsborne
Go and stay go
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>motivation to make new builds is completely killed by the fact that there's barely anyone to use them against

Seriously why the pvp hate, they couldn't even put in a shitty colesium like DaS/DaS2?
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>>164948342
>there's barely anyone to use them against
This is false though, invasios are pretty common
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>>164947319
Thanks for the help. I still haven't learned how to fight dark camerabeast.
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>>164935871
>BEASTED.COM

Beasts on blondes when?
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>>164941561
Just keep playing the game.
After something momentous happens, try the Grand Cathedral.
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>load up character
>entire screen gray
>after a minute, health drops to zero
>after another minute, death scream
>YOU DIED
>goes straight to startup screen
110% SPOOPED
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still looking for help with at the Logarius boss fog. pass is "halp".
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>>164950740
Frenzy fuckery?
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>>164950781
bl?
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>>164942740
Did you buy bloodborne on release?

If not, you might have missed the various forums where people were ragequitting Gascoigne and trading in the game. It seemed every boss from cleric was a wall for people and I remember PSA threads for bsb about summoning Alfred
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>>164950887
Blood Level 46
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>>164950991
omw
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>>164950980
Nah the exact opposite I only got it 2 weeks ago and I'm too poor for PS+ so I'm not enjoying coop or messages
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>>164951246
Whooooo! Thanks Hibiki, now I can finally get a weapon that actually scales with my build
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>>164951417
im not hibiki lol glad you beat him though
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If I'm using a 30 STR 50 ARC wheel, which is better? +PHY % + ARC FLAT or Nourishings?
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>>164947319
Do your best anon!
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So, is it generally agreed that the entire game, from the opening ctuscene from where you get your transfusion, to the ending where you let Gehrman execute you, is a dream?

No one disagrees that Mensis/Frontier, the Hunter's Dream and the Hunter's Nightmare are dream worlds, but what about the main city? Or even the Chalice Dungeons? The whole place seems to me like a collective dream created/maintained by Moon Presence and some of the other Old Ones, but does that mean that none of the plague or anything else happened in real life? Or did it happen, and now all that's left is a collective memory and a shared dream of it?
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>>164952415
"Dreams" in Bloodborne aren't dreams, they're alternative planes of existence where Great Ones dwell. Everything in BB is real, that's the horror of it.
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Why does the chapel dweller drop the oedon rune?
Does he have any connection with Odeon?
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>>164953104
>does the guy who sits all day and night in the oedon chapel have anything to do with oedon
No, he's clearly the moon presence
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>>164953104
He does live in the Oedon Chapel.
And Oedon whispered to Arianna's pussy there so I assume his presence is strong there.
I like the theory that it was Odeon's voice that drives Adella nuts, too.
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>>164953271
Don't you start it
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>>164953271
And are you trying to say?
Anyone can sit there all day, but this doesn't mean shit.
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>>164952929
Well, it's actually interesting when you look at the Lovecraft stories it pulls from, mainly the Randall Carter shorts. Because Randall is just a lucid dreamer, and somehow manages to find a physical portal into the dream world, vanishing from the face of the earth. But then, later, he actually physically flies back to earth on a UFO from the dream world, without going through any sort of portal again.

The implication is that there isn't a hard line between dream and reality, and/or that reality on the far reaches of the cosmos (where the Old Ones live), is malleable and weird as fuck.

Which, you know, could be a reality for all we know considering how generally bad we are at remembering and engaging with our dreams. Lovecraft himself was a lucid dreamer, with Randall Carter being as close to a proxy self as he's ever written.
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>>164953424
>sits in the chapel all day
>starts to look like a ritekeeper
>ritekeepers found in pthumeru labyrinth
>pthumerians made contact with eldritch beings
He probably started changing just like the pthumerians did just by spending so much time around the god he worshipped
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>>164952415
Doesn't matter if it's a dream or not, it really happened and even if the Hunter wakes up, abandoning the Dream, the horrors are still lurking somewhere.
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Is it safe to go onto NG+ if I haven't finished the dungeons yet?
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>>164953398
Adella was always nuts
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>>164953538
How do you know that he wasn't just born like that?
Besides, he's not in Oedon Chapel because he worships Oedon, he's here because it's full of incense burners that repel beasts.
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>>164953716
Yes, they will stay just like you left them and your materials will stay with you.
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>>164953803
She looks like a fucking psycho.
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>>164953924
>How do you know that he wasn't just born like that?
Just speculation on my part
Maybe he's descended from pthumerians or something
But he's definitely not normal
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>>164949406
I haven't been able to find anyone to invade me or be invade once and I'm n my second play through now
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>>164953924
How do you know that he doesn't worship Oedon?
Besides, he's not in Oedon Chapel because it's full of incense burners that repel beasts, he's here because he just wants to help people.
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>>164954046
Just ring the sinister bell whenever you enter a new area, I always get twinked in the Forbidden Woods and Hemwick
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>shitty moveset
>shitty durability
>hits like a train
God, the damage.
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>>164954096
>How do you know that he doesn't worship Oedon?
He never says anything about Oedon.
>he's here because he just wants to help people
His help consists in gathering people in the only place that's full of beast repellents.
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>>164954046
Everytime I get invaded it's a twink with the Rakuyo or a Beast Embrace guy who two shots me while I do viscerals that takes less than 20% of their health.
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If I use the SRRC for coop I get ported to some random guy ?

Are there level restrictions like normal coop or do I just get into the first open chalice and then have my level adjusted `?
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>>164950740
>>164950858
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>>164954239
>He never says anything about Oedon.
He's in Oedon Chapel and drops an Oedon rune. He barely looks like a human too, wich pretty much everyone who has contact with Great Ones become something else.

>His help consists in gathering people in the only place that's full of beast repellents.
Who else do you think put all the incense there?
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>>164954557
Yes but he's here for secondary reasons. He looks inhuman, but he's not a beast or kin.
>Who else do you think put all the incense there?
The Healing Church. Other Church facilities such as the orphanage entrance and bridge passage are also filled with incense burners.
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>>164954727
I never said he was beast or kin just something else.
How do you explain the rune? And when I think about it, how can we pick up runes? The little girl drops one after she becomes an ayy but so does Adella, maybe it's a revelation that we simply remember and the rune is what represents it?
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Before starting the game I heard that strenght builds are infinitely inferior to skill ones because of how bloodborne plays out but I went strenght anyway because it's my thing and I rolfstomped through the game. Then on my second run I went skill to find out how much better it is and got my shit pushed in not only by bosses but some regular enemies as well. Why are people spreading such misconceptions?
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>>164955464
skill is nice because it makes viscerals stronger but there are a lot of good strength weapons. both are good and people say stupid shit all the time.
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>>164955464
Strength is better for pve, Skill is better for pvp
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>>164955464
Don't listen to idiots who say "this build is better than the other one" because everyone plays differentely. Just bring Vit to 40-50 and your primary stat to 50 if you want to PvP, anything else is fine for PvE as long as you feel confortable.
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>>164955464
The long and short of it is, do what you want. Find weapons you want to use, and make builds geared toward that. No weapons are entirely "bad," but some are inherently better than others, especially through the way you might distribute points. Find what works best for you, and stick with that.
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Is not gesturing back the worst thing you can do in this game?
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>platinum'd Bloodborne over the holidays
Welp, time to sell my PS4.
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>>164955826
Tell that to the wheel or pizza cutter.
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>>164956331
>caring about trophies
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so to save scum with ps+ I just get to the boss I want to save scum, exit the game in the Hunter's Dream, disable auto upload, upload my save, fight the boss, and then download the save if I don't get the right gem?
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>>164952415
Admit it guys, you've at least once considered getting one of the runes as a tattoo
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>>164956613
>caring
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>>164956753
Exit game, doesn't matter where you are
Upload to Online Storage
Kill boss
If shitty gem, Download to System Storage
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>>164956284
No
At least you stood there and acknowledged their existence
The worst thing you can do is immediately leave the area
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>>164956960
I don't have any tattoos but I would only consider getting a game related tattoo if the franchise was long dead and there wasn't the slightest chance of it being ruined
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Can you clear a single glyph multiple times?
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>>164957118
yes just delete it and do glyph search again
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Is 40/15/14/25/50/6 a good spread for lvl 100 blt build or do I need to drop some skl for more end?
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>Bought PS4 and BB during Christmas
>ordered two additional games to vent out even before aforemntioned arrived
>games not here and I'm at Margo's with brain full of fuck from overplaying and overthinking
At least I can't tell I'm not burned out.
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>>164957512
25 Skl is pretty useless for anything, most people leave it at base. You could either use it for Vit or End, or bring Str to 28 and use the cannon.
Your choice, this looks good too.
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Why do the Shadows of Yharnam appear in the Nightmare?
Moreover Yharnam herself is in it.
Why do you find Iosefka's blood in there?
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>>164957694
Except that the skaling on blt for skl is B, B, A and S. I just want to know how much of a difference 5 end (10 stamina) makes.
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>>164958294
Because from soft has a habit of rushing out the last few stages of the game so they end up being hard to navigate and having rehashed enemies/items.
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>>164923981
I may be an ass but...
the Cleric Beast takes it for me, It introduces you to what a nightmare of a place that place has become.
Also, second best theme, after Ludwigs ofc.
Am I the only one that finds Paarl/Darkbeasts screeches cute?
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>>164958658
>Except that the skaling on blt for skl is B, B, A and S

what
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>>164958294
I don't know about Iosefka's blood but the Shadows are guarding Mergo just like the Wet Nurse. My hypothesis is that they have some connection with Oedon since they are somehow formless.
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>>164956960
Kinda, yeah.
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>>164958658
Except that the skaling on blt for skl is B, B, A, and S.

What? Chikage has shitty Skl scaling, and the extra 25 Skill isn't gonna help much since it doesn't affect the tricked mode which is the only mode worth using. It'll give a bit more damage for untricked Bowblade as well but it's still gonna be mediocre. 28 Str would be a better investment for Church Cannon and Gatling Gun, or a bit more Vit.
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>>164956985
>actually doing things
What a fucking IDIOT
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>>164958658
>I just want to know how much of a difference 5 end (10 stamina) makes
Just use a rune. The only weapon I would consider using 20 End is the HMLB and anything above that is luxury.
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What build should i try next?

I want to settle down on a character and start farming all the best gems and progress into ng+, already did a strenght build with kirkhammer, a arcane build with the HLMGS and finished today a run with the pizza cutter.

I am thinking a bloodtinge build but the weapon variety seems low or a quality build which might give acess to the majority of weapons.
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>>164956331
But Nioh is out soon
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Does the "effects of temporary transformation" rune have any effect on the ayy form?
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>farming heavy abyssals
>hp depletes
>hp depletes
>hp depletes
>ATK down
>hp depletes
TWO NUKES WERE NOT ENOUGH
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>>164959502
Go Str/Blt for Church Cannon and Gatling Gun. 28 Str, 15 Skl for Bowblade, Chicago, and Bloodletter. Blunderbuss, Evelyn, and Repeating Pistol hit real hard with 50 Blt. Piercing Rifle for style.
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>>164956284
I think the worst thing you can do is let the host walk through the nightmare fog and then silence bell out.

Last night i was summoned in for a boss, then the second guy who got summoned in didnt go in the boss room but just ran around the level killing enemies while we fought the boss.
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>fought Ludwig so much I know how his AI manipulation works

Basically if he hits you once he jumps away constantly and is a fucking asshole, but if you dodge his first couple attacks he'll get stuck In a loop of repeating them almost endlessly

Wish I knew what the fuck triggered his instant kill stomps though, or breaking his leg as I can pound on it for a while and nothing happen so or it breaks in the first 5 seconds
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>>164959370
Logarius' Wheel, Beast Cutter and Whirligig Saw consume a lot of stamina with a normal R1 swing, 20 end is also recommended for these
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>>164959774
For the Chikage should i just aim for the minimum requirements and level blt to 50?

I mainly do co-op so i don´t know if i sould go over 98 and stay at 120.
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>>164961057
Yes, the Skill scaling is shit on it. 14 Skill is required, but 15 is for Bowblade which is worth it for arrows.
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blood builds are kinda underwhelming huh

Bowblade can only be used in its secondary form, making it a gun you cant bone ash essentially.

And even at +10 with 50 BLT and +20% gems my chikage does nowhere near the dps my BoM did at 50 skill.

Am i just being retarded or is the chikage more of a one hit at a time weapon, or pve or something? It's boss dps really seems kinda lacking. Oh and obviously Beast blood pellets dont work with it either
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>>164961057
Go to 120. 98 is meme bullshit.
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>>164961724
Bowblade arrows can be charged and will do either similar or more damage than a BMA Evelyn, and BMA is limited. Tricked Chikage is great for PvE, Blt damage means it'll knock down spiders and dogs easily. Maybe get better gems, full OoS 31.5% Korean gems will most likely hit harder than your BoM but 27.2% Phys is enough. Most enemies aren't resistant to Blood damage.
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>>164962045
well the build currently has 50 blt, 15 skill

im trying to decide whether i should do 50 skill 50 blt for Bowblade/Reiterpallasch or just go STR to use Cannon/Gatling gun etc

However i did fucking sell them because i thought i wasn't going to use them...
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FUCK. Are lost versions of weapons the best for an ARC build? I just upgraded Luwig's Holy Blade to +10 before I realized I should research that...
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>>164962235
I'd favor Str/Blt for Church Cannon/Gatling Gun since 50/50 Skl/Blt is a huge investment but Reiter and Bowblade untricked is pretty fun too. You can always use them in a Skill build with 10 Blt.
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>>164962439
If you upgraded the standard version, you upgraded the useless one
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>>164962439
Lost for Fire/Bolt, Radial, Radial, Triangle for Phys/Arcane. Check the OP for gem setups. Normal LHB is the worst out of the 3 but it's not a major difference.
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>>164962580
>>164962582
Well shit... Time to farm chunks I guess.
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>>164962448
i think i'll just get enough strength to use the bloodletter and keep 15 skill to use bowblade. Then go something like 50 vit 20 end
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is that arcane guide picture from the op actually a viable route or is it 'just don't get hit :^)' tier?
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>>164963071
It's viable, just make sure you're also pumping Vit. 40 is the least you'll want.
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Where can i get some sliders? The OP doesn´t seem to have a section for that and the regular search seems disappointing.
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Is the amygdalan arm a meme or is it actually usable like the SKL weapons with arcane damage? It's the only STR scaling weapon I haven't made a proper build for yet, and it looks fun.
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>>164963410
It's okay, unique moveset and kinda fun. 50 Strength is all you need for it. Like those Skill weapons with Arc damage, you can ignore the Arc aspect on it.
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>>164963272
What kind are you looking for?
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>>164963410
I've found this and cauliflower mode really fuck with people. They just aren't used to dealing with it.
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>>164963723
Some female ones, all i see are iosefkas, marias and dolls.
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>>164963959
http://imgur.com/a/ptTAG
http://imgur.com/a/WUZOK
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>>164964082
>http://imgur.com/a/WUZOK
Thanks man!
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Is 40/25 STR/SKL fine for a beast claw build? Target level is 98.
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>>164964973
50/25 would be ideal. What's your spread?
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>>164965129
I should probably knock 5 off END and VIT each, but I'm not familiar with the stamina consumption with the beast claws.
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>>164965380
Yeah I'd knock off 5 from each. Stamina consumption isn't bad for any weapon, I usually run base for all my builds just fine. Damage stats>Vit>End is usually how you should prioritize.
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>>164965613
Alright, guess it's just memesawing my way through the game now, laurence will be fun.
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Anyone want to help with chalice rom? Pass is spoidah
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>>164966114
Booting up
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>>164965380
You need 50 strength.
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this game feels 5 times harder when you start with threaded cane
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>>164966854
Very little impact stun.
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>>164966379
Did you lag out? Rining again
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>>164966114
Welp that was weird. Searching again.
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>>164967038
I might restart my Internet, this is taking forever
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>>164966854
But you just need to whip those beastly idiots.
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>>164967340
Mayber we should have killed more spiders desu but I hope you got her.
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>>164967340
He got me, ringing again
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>>164966854
just rush saw spear

literally any build in the game can benefit from rushing to saw spear and upgrading it a bit. Most of the early game bosses are either beasts, or have elemental weaknesses that you can find the item for right before them (fire paper/bolt paper) meaning you can just slap it on and beat the shit out of them with the low stamina costs, serration and synergy with beast blood pellet

personally i fucking hate the moveset and wish it was remotely like an actual spear but the weapon is just too fucking good
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>>164966114
level?
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>>164967627
I think we should kill all the spiders, I get killed in 2 by them so I can't just rush her
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>>164967685
oh it's not my first playthrough or anything, i just think the cane is a difficult weapon to use. saws, axe or kirkhammer feels super easy compared to it.
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>>164967627
OK I got her, thanks
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>>164967782
I only kill the first wave cause it's not so hard that way. Did you get her?
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do strength weapons have any real tricks or finesse or anything or is it just - kill cleric beast, buy kirkhammer, complete game? Maybe go DLC to get Cutter/AmyArm
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>>164968127
>any real tricks or finesse

what is this supposed to mean
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>>164968091
Yup, I should be OK for the next layer tho, fire cleaver should be good for blb
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>>164968127
strength playthroughs i mean
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>>164953969
Church folk looked even creepier in the concept art
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>>164968213
i meant playthroughs, like is there anything important to rush, any gems to go chalice diving early for or whatever like you need to on an arcane build?
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>>164968337
Ah okay. Let me know if you do need help though.
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Do Moon or Heir runes stack?
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>>164969134
All runes stack their effects
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Where's the tertiary/curse effect pool info?

Thinking I might try some autism setups on my weapons.
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>>164968637
Man what is the name of their main artists? These guys consistently dish out top tier armor, robes, weapons, areas and creatures.
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>>164969412
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XYzO2js7ggvPEg8125SIKDo6anvqirI2Dxj2JvYR0uM/edit#gid=629915578

Found it, sort of.

Can someone tell me what P is? I can't figure it out.
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>building str/arc character
>pick up boom hammer
>tricked charged R2 is satisfying as fuck
>but I get more damage by just tricking tontrius and mashing R1

fuck this homosexual gaia
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Is the arcane guide in the OP still the best or has it been improved upon by some anons here and just not updated? I mean it seems solid enough just curious.
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>>164970461
Tonitrus does ridiculous amounts of damage with proper gems.
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Anyone ever see a Tempering Phys 27.2% with a +Bolt secondary?
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>>164970485
its a very effective guide but it doesn't feel arcaney for a very long time

If you care about your sort of 'build fantasy' or whatever, then instead of levelling saw spear you can just dump upgrades and ash into Flamesprayer
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>>164970485
Someone did a specific guide but it's basically the same.
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This is the second time in two days ive posted but the post isn't in the thread.

I was wondering if the arcane guide in the OP has been improved upon at all. It seems fine I'm just curious.
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>>164970692
is there any way to make boom hammer do similar ridiculous damage? Tontrius is really underwhelming in terms of its moves, even though it shits out damage. At the very least, I can use its fire against beasts, but still.
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>finally beat Loran Darkbeast
Fuck, that was harder than it should be. I don't get why I can beat Darkbeast Paarl with a +3 weapon easily but get my shit pushed in for 3 hours with Loran Darkbeast.
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>>164971184
I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
>>164971781
Loran is bigger and more agressive.
And the frame drop is real
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late game, like FRC dungeons for example, would i be better off with an arcane build with decent fire and bolt gems in weapons or a pure strength build with a whirligig saw for example?
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>>164972362
and id be sticking to the SL98 meta meme, so itd either be 50 arc or 50 str
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>>164972362
Both are pretty great. If you feel like you could handle using BB pellets in FRC, Strength. If not, Arcane.
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>>164972603
would arcanes tools not be enough to lead to overall better performance vs strengths power in frc?
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>>164971184
Blunt or Fire gems
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>>164972909
Tools are much safer and most do decent damage at 50 Arc. For Strength you're really tied down to melee so you always have to brute your way through bosses. Arcane has a lot more range options and Fire/Bolt/Arcane weapons exploit most weaknesses. Both are pretty equal but Arcane seems safer.
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>>164972362
STR makes Bloodborne easy
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>>164973238
alright thanks for the input. i dont think im good enough to use pure melee, so yeah maybe arcane is better. if there was a massive benefit to strength then id go with it even though im not good enough for it, but if theres not much difference i may aswell just fuck things up with arcane
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>>164973469
Strength builds usually have an easier time early game and in gem farming but if you know how to use Arcane builds you'll shred stuff really well. There's an Arc guide in the OP if you haven't checked it out, really useful for beginners.
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>>164973417
>BB pellets
>Saw Cleaver/Spear
>Bolt/Fire paper
This makes Bloodborne easy.
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Okay, DLC is uncomfortable AF. First skinned people in rivers of blood and now asylum...
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>>164973974
It is called the Hunter's Nightmare after all.
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>>164969412
>>164970945
Bump.
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>>164973974
>go to hunters nightmare
>surprised when its full of hunters version of shitposting
>tfw stuck there
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>>164974193
>Anyone ever see a Tempering Phys 27.2% with a +Bolt secondary?

No, Undead Giants can drop 28% Adepts with secondaries. Isz and Loran usually have Flat Bolt secondaries so it's possible to get that, but bolt secondaries on Phys gems are useless. Nourishings would usually be better.
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>>164974558
>hunters shitposting
>Vilebloods run around writing "executioners r gay" in blood on Yharnam's walls
>Executioners steal all wagon wheels they come across
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>>164974761
I just want the on-hit lightning effect
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>>164974861
>Vilebloods run around writing "executioners r gay" in blood on Yharnam's walls
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>>164974947
Bloodletting Beast drops 24.8%+15 Temperings. You could try to find one in Loran and farm till you get a Bolt secondary if he still drops Temperings there.
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executioners r gay
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>>164975540
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>>164974947
>mfw ever since BB we don't get to see our weapons on our characters during cutscenes
>I can run around in beastmode naked or wear ridiculous clothes for more beasthood, but I like the look of the character's back hair when naked
>no separate attire slot for capes
>you'll never see your secondary weapon on your back if you're using your primary weapon


FashionBorne is a hard life
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>>164975760

Nah.
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>>164975916
I don't get it.
Why he ended himself?
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>>164975916
>purged himself
AHAHAHAHAH PURGE FILTH AMIRITE? EXECUTIONERS REALIZING WHO THE REAL FILTH IS
>>
If I wanted to make an arcane cane would adding 1 or 2 of those arc scaling gems take it up to S scaling? or would I just wanna add arc% to it
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>>164975916
>tfw wheeled himself
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>>164976213
>tfw when you rev one too many times
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>>164976143
1 would take it to S but 2 and a Arcane Triangle would be optimal. If it was Fire/Bolt, 1 Cold Radial, a Fire/Bolt 27.2% Triangle and a Fire/Bolt Waning Abyssal would be better on the Lost version.
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Is their a comphrensive npc guide anywhere? I'm on my 2nd playthru and trying to get more into the questlines.
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>>164976312
kek
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>>164976049
His mission was over and he wished to be canonized alongside his master.
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>>164976312
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>>164976405
In the OP, check the Imgur link under misc.
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>>164976359
why 2 scaling ones if one takes it to S, does the scaling still increase it past S? Sorry, i'm just trying to decide on weapons for a nearly pure arc build. Stuck between rev wheel, ARCane, tonitrus. As a secondary that is. First weapon is gonna be parasite cause I love it.
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>tfw /v/ will always hate bloodborne because it will never be on their precious PCs
>>
skill or strength for frc dungeons?
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>>164976639
Yes, scaling keeps going past S.
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>>164976824
Skill. Church Pick is god-tier and those visceral will mean that HMPH will never HMPH in your presence again.
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Hi everybody,

After our last vg league manager fucked off and never was seen again I decided to become our new vgl manager andto revive the /bbg/ team. However I can always need help so if you're a Pro evolution soccer crack or have experience in 3d modelling and want to help giving this community the team that it deserves please contact me at [email protected].
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>>164976824
Doesn't matter

I had a 50 str, 25 skl whirligig saw with perfect gems and I could destroy a FRC depth 5 headless bloodletter in ~30 seconds thanks to beast pellets and fire paper
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>>164977150
impossible on the SL98 meme though unless you have like no vit or end
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>>164977230
Whirligig with 50 str and base skl is basically no different, you're losing maybe 30 net AR?
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>>164977230
>impossible

military veteran

40(45)/20(15)/50/25/7/6

BL98
>>
>invading on mergos
>each time bell silenced session lost
pussys
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>>164976824
Literally any build will have an easy time in FRC if you know how to use them.

>>164977230
VP:45/15/50/25/6/7
>>
when gehrman says "Ascend to Oeden Chapel, is he telling me to go to Upper Cathedral Ward and kill Ebriatas? Or is he saying to find the shortcut through the old healing church to bypass the gate and get to Amelia? Or is he telling me to find the abandoned old workshop for some reason?

Is this the last thing he says to you until you beat Wet Nurse? I never see him for most of the game, not even in the gardens
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>Pvp in byrgenwerth
>opponent just fucking runs away and spams vials until he goes through all fucking 20

If you're a host I can understand, but why do this time wasting shit if you're the invader?
>>
>>164977952
All 3.
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Is there a way to save the real Losefka?
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>>164978176
>This night is long, but morning always comes. Someone of your caliber won’t fail us, I am certain. And once the night of the hunt ends, we can speak face-to-face. Then I can finally see what you look like. I shouldn’t be thinking this but I am rather looking forward to it. So please, be careful out there.

no
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>>164978176
no
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>>164978128
Reddit has no problem with healing in invasions. Just vial parry the goobers
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>>164950980
I don't understand why anyone would rage quit at Gascoigne. He's pretty easy.
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>>164978176
>save Iosefka and go on a date
>fuck Imposterfu and have to fight her afterwards

Why one?
>>
>Invade someone
>host has cooperator
>used silencing blank and bows
>bow back
>honorabu duel ensues

I know people like to shit on muh honor but that was pretty fun desu
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>>164978329
>only chick that likes you dies
What did Miyazaki mean by this?
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>>164978521
>vial parry

That's more luck than skill with bullet travel time and latency
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Anyone have the Micolash sliders?
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Best version of best claws?
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>>164979183
not using beast claws at all
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>>164975916
Wait what the hell, is that the crown of illusions? Does that appear there after he commits sodoku or was it edited in?
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>>164979403
After he dies its on the altar
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>>164979183
Read the OP.
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>>164976438
This is what I would mod it to if I could.
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So I know there's some more runes in chalice dungeons like the +5 QS bullet one but can you farm and where multiples of them or are they 1 time things? Like could I get say 3 +5 QS bullets and have 35 bullets? I'm assuming not but.
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is it worth taking 2 points off the points i was planning on putting into vit into strength to be able to use tonitrus on an arcane build?
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>>164978842
Hey, Gascans daughter likes you and dies too.

>>164979129
ssjnugget imgur in the OP
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>>164979067
Not really, it's more about prediction. Unless your Internet is shit.
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>>164979748
Str/Arc Toni is better than Pure Arc. So unless you're going 25/50 Str/Arc, Toni ain't worth it.
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>getting summoned for watcher of the old lords so I can get another gem
>>>>>>>>beckoner takes out his flamesprayer
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>>164980158
>Beckoner uses Bolt Paper on Darkbeasts
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>>164979525
That's dumb. There should only be one crown of illusions and you have it.
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>>164979943
what about putting 2 points into skill for saif?
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>>164980158
>doing coop at rom
>go do the normal thing of clearing the first wave of spiders
>host bolts for rom and gets him to his 2nd phase with barely any damage done to him

We still won but Jesus don't stress me like that, it's not like we had a 3rd guy to really lay on the DPS
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>>164980503
Yes that's definitely worth it. Makes for a great Bolt weapon.
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>>164980345
>beckoner uses arcane on logarius
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>>164980624
and for fire just saw spear meme as always?
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>>164980438
>oh the places you'll die!
>git gud

Please leave that shit in Dark Souls
>>
Anyone wanna bully orphan with me? BL 82 pass is lol i'm outside the fog
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>>164980821
Yeah, or any other serrated weapon.
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>>164968713
Not really, Axe, Cleaver and Kirkhammer are all STR focused weapons avalible in the first area and Stake Driver, Ludwigs and Tonitrus are avalible just after, they arnt pure STR weapons but can definetly be worth using, especially Tonitrus on bolt-weak stuff. After Amelia you can grab Beast Cutter, Amy Arm, Boom Hammer and Whirligig all without killing Ludwig. Wheel is avalible after Cainhurst.

There's no mandatory early chalice diving, but if you do the rewards are plentiful. Even in the very first dungeon you'll get decent gems and if you actually farm a little bit you can get OP as fuck gems for all your weapons.
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>>164980659
>throwing Oil Urns so my fire converted weapons get a buff
>beckoner starts using fire paper, making the oil go to waste
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>>164981454
;^)
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>>164981454
>parry Logarius
>host doesn't let me riposte
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>>164981043
anyone? :(
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Is gun only more challenging than BL4?
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>>164981897
If you're pumping Vit and Blt, no. If just Blt, maybe.
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